Virgin Women Over 25 Have Something Wrong with Them (Call-In Show) | Pearl Daily
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Summary
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage and why it s bad for men to get married, and why women should get married young. Women are so willing to leave marriages because they are not happy, and the most important thing is the children. Feminism s biggest failure lies to women.
Transcript
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So there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
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Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
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Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
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Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
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A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
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You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
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This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
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You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
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It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
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Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
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One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
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She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
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Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
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74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
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Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
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Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
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I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
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Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
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When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,
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and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
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I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
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You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
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We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
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And then daughters grow up without their fathers.
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Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
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A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
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Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
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We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
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You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
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I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
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Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
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naturally, the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
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Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
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And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave
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when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
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This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
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Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
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I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
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I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
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How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
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The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
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The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol,
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Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
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Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get...
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Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
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If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
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So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
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I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
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I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
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Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want
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The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
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We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
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This is an existential crisis failing young men.
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Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here at the Audacity Network.
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The first thing we're going to do today is we are going to thank the awesome, talented,
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amazing men that donated to our divorce documentary fundraiser.
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So as you guys know, my mission when I came into this space was I just wanted to have a
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And unfortunately, they demonetized me for a year and a half.
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And it made it pretty difficult to finish the divorce documentary.
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So if you guys can, the link is in the description.
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If you guys donate during the show, I will read it at the end.
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Also, if you want to learn how to be a YouTuber, go to pearlinvite.com and apply.
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And you can be a part of our weekly classes that we do.
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We're not going to do the classes today because I just have a lot to say on this topic.
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So I think we're going to do it probably not tomorrow.
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Thursday, we're going to do our how to be a YouTuber class where every week I go through
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So thank you for sitting with me through the sales pitch.
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And I said, men say they want virgin women until they see the virgin women available.
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I said, men, they constantly gaslight the same way women gaslight us about what we find
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Now, remember, in girl world, we only care about what attractive men think.
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I'm not saying this is a good thing, but we have a new series on this channel and it's
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So this is a segment on Pearl Daily where I talk about the way the world is, not the way
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You know, I had a friend of mine say that should is the worst word in the human language because
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And I realized that I myself as a YouTuber, I use this term just a lot.
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And I actually almost got embarrassed thinking about it after I came to this realization.
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You know, when you're a YouTuber and you talk for a living, you're forced to deal with
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uncomfortable truths about yourself because if you don't notice them, the world notices
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So one of them that I learned was that when I was younger, I was very idealistic and unrealistic.
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And so I would say things like, you know, I can't say that anymore.
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I'm always trying to put in an entertaining show for you guys.
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It's not, this isn't, this isn't something that is a realistic point of view.
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And I think that's where a lot of liberals are born.
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That's where a lot of liberals, they look at us conservatives and they're saying, what
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And I'm not saying the liberals are right either.
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The liberal men, I mean, we see the way that they simp to no end.
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They're like the, they're like the Incredibles, you know, that show, but just in simping.
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Now, I'm going to talk about this topic and you guys aren't going to be able to call in.
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But there was one comment that actually sparked this whole show.
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And I can't, I forgot to put the name of the person who said it, but maybe Doug MPA,
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And I caught, I, I did this because I really thought to myself, I understand why he thinks
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So my take is that female virgins have something wrong with them more times than they don't.
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Now, I'd like to differentiate female virgins below a certain age, you could argue, maybe
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they don't, but I don't think virginity is this bonding construct the way that it used to be.
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But the virgins of today are just not the virgins of yesterday.
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And the reason I came to this conclusion was real life experience.
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You know, you see the stats about body count, right?
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And you think to yourself, well, that's obviously the women with the higher body counts
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But I like to have more nuanced conversations on this channel.
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So during the last show, I reacted to a clip of a woman named Riley who went on a dating
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Um, not the most attractive, maybe like a five or a four.
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She went on this dating show and she pitched herself to 20 guys and she was rejected.
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And listening to her talk, I don't think I would be shocked if she was a virgin.
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I don't know if she is or she isn't, but she fit one of the archetypes of virgins I've
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So the comment, so during, during this show, I titled it, men say they want virgins until
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So the comment said Pearl went from women should be virgin and young to know you don't want
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She's insecure about her situation, about not being a virgin and aging and couldn't live
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up to the standards she originally argued about.
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And now is trying to convince people that no, you don't want a virgin.
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Subconsciously, she comes across as jealous that everyone gets married first, regardless
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So I looked at this comment and I said, I can understand why he thinks that.
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And at the end, you could tell me if you agree or disagree, we could do a call in show.
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Now, I'm not saying I am the end all be all, but all I am repeating back is what I have seen
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So the first definition I think is really important is what is a virgin woman?
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Now, you would think you really would think that this would be something that we all just
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You would think that we would know, like a virgin's a girl that never had sex, right?
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That's what, that's what, that's what you would think.
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So the definition of a virgin is a person who has never had sexual intercourse.
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Number two is an unmarried woman devoted to religion.
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So women are sneaking in, they're sneaking in another definition.
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They're sneaking in another definition into, into Webster.
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That's how women, that's how women manipulate is we have a tendency to change the definition
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Three had absolutely chaste young woman or four, Virgin Mary.
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So for the purpose of this conversation, I would say a virgin woman is a woman that has
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never done anything that could give her an STD.
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Getting finger blasted, hand jobs, that can give you an STD.
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Soaking, I'm pretty sure that can give you an STD.
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So all of the workarounds here at Pearl Daily, we do not count those hoes.
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Just because you found a way to get off without hoeing doesn't mean you're better than the
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Now, the next question I had is, do women want to be virgins on their wedding day?
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So conservative men have a tendency to have this idea that women want to wait till they're
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And they're just falling victim to these evil men who just take their virginity.
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But if we look at what women are choosing, it does not look like women have any intention
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Now they're saying this is a bad take because sharing a drink can give you an STD.
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I think if you could get off, if you can orgasm from a man, if you can, if that can happen,
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if he's causing it, look it, I just don't, I just don't, I don't think you're that innocent.
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I hate it when people know what you're saying, but they force you, they force you to give
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That's, I just want you to know in the chat, whoever put that, you're annoying.
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So putting things in order, relationship sequencing, the preferences of American woman.
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In America today, 70% of people cohabitate before marriage and 90% of people have sex before
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Moreover, 40% of kids are born to unmarried mothers.
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It's easy to assume these trends are driven entirely by shifts in values and attitudes like
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the sexual revolution or the deinstitutionalization of marriage.
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Maybe the family breakdown has grown because people don't desire conventional sequencing of
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marriage and childbearing, but because there are obstacles to this outcome.
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So remember, they always want to take the blame away from women.
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They always want to say it's not because women want to do it.
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The prevalence of damaging penalties that discourage marriage for working class people could be
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prevented from many achieving family lives they want.
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And indeed, family dissolution marriage penalties are a major concern of working class parents.
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To explore the question of why the sequencing of family events has changed, I fielded a survey
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And the survey was another wave of long-running surveys called the Demographic Intelligence of
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Family Survey, which polls American women about their family attitudes, fertility preferences,
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and lifestyle twice a year to provide market research for companies that make products for
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children and moms, hence why it only surveyed women.
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I assessed sequencing in a straightforward way.
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I asked women to arrange six relationship stages based on what they thought would be the
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The stages were getting married, moving in together, having a child, buying a house, meeting
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By forcing respondents to put these stages in order, I directly measured women's views of
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what they would personally prefer for their own relationships.
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In other words, I measured the extent to which high rates of cohabitation and premarital
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So women put the order women want relationships to happen.
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They want to have sex, move in together, then get married, and buy a house and have a child.
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Contrary to popular Hollywood-driven narratives that frame meeting the family as a huge relationship
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step that people want to postpone, women overwhelmingly selected meeting each other's families as their
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Like, women love signaling status to the family.
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On average, meeting the family was selected was the second listed item.
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While this may seem counterintuitive, it's very straightforward.
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Many women say they prefer to be in the relationship with someone who already knows their life and
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Other ways, other, now remember, women are gaslighting here because if that were true,
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then we would be meeting in our hometowns and not on hinge.
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Otherwise, women may explicitly desire familiar approval for partners.
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Furthermore, it's important to remember the question asked women about what would be best,
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If women knew up front that their potential partner was their best partner, they might move
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My point is that 78% of women in this survey picked an onboarding that prelaced homeownership
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This survey also asked women if housing costs has impact.
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I really wanted to just put, um, women want to marry before kids, but they definitely want
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And if we look at what women are picking, right, women aren't really picking to wait until
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We're really not, you know, I mean, it's just not something that we personally are choosing.
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So I really want to just kill this idea that women want to wait until we're married.
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If we wanted to, we would, you know, we would be rushing to get with all the guys that are
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So the next question I had, how many virgin brides are there and what are your chances of
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So let's assume because women are liars, not all, not all, not all, that 2.5%, let's say
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So out of a hundred women, you are going to meet 2.5% that are virgins and actually.
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Now, what percent have given a hand job or a blow?
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You know, we'll, we'll include that with the lying, even though I guarantee half of them
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Let's say we're at, even though it's really higher, I'm just for shits and giggles going
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What percent, what percent are using their virginity to build their brand or have a lot
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Let's just, now let's say it's one out of a hundred women.
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Now you say, you guys keep saying, Pearl, you're contradicting yourself.
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Now, you said women should be virgins and that's where I really wanted to talk about
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how the marriage contract has changed over time.
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Men and women have compete, conflicting sexual strategies.
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Women want men to not know how valuable they are.
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So they give up their leverage the rest of their lives and be loyal to them and give them
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like the goal of women is to tame the alpha, right?
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And the goal of men is to have, maybe have a wife, but bang hot women forever.
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And before in the old days, it was a compromise, right?
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A lot of time the woman would come with a dowry, right?
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So they would actually be like, hey, son, this girl, my daughter's a hassle.
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Here's some money to deal with her annoyingness forever.
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And so before the women would say, you know what?
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Like I'm pretty hot, but you're good enough and I'm going to settle and we're going to
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This is going to be a compromise for both of us.
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And the man would say, look, I could bang some hot chicks.
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I'm going to compromise here and we're going to get together.
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Or if you did lie, I'm sure women have always lied.
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If you had a hoe phase, you ended it at like 20.
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You know, but now what happens is the women have completely foregoed, foregone their side
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I still demand to be a stay-at-home mother to like one kid.
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So I think in my old content, I maybe, I wish I differentiated more.
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When I said should, my, what I was trying to say is in the old days when it was a fair
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deal for men, women used to bring purity and youth.
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And not only, at least women used to be able to lie about purity.
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Now there's like a digital footprint on the internet.
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What percent of these virgins have OnlyFans, right?
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So this is not meant to discourage women that wish to do that.
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And the comment, the comment really grinded my gears a little bit because I was
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But virgins aren't really the ones that are stealing the men.
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Like usually they're with kind of dorky guys that most women don't want to be with.
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That's not who women in mass are picking, right?
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Um, so what we used to have was marriage the way it was, was originally supposed to be an
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equal exchange somewhat because women are not bringing purity and youth to the table.
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Now, because women don't, you know, the purity and the youth isn't brought to the table.
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The women are like, look, I guess I'm going to have to be a nice person and offer a six
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Um, sex used to be the primary way, um, a woman reciprocated effort in dating, um, and
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And so what we have now is the mystery method says, you know, men used to date for three
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And to be honest, fellas, I don't think you should envy the men of the past.
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I mean, this was kind of a terrible deal in a way for you guys.
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I actually think you guys in a way have it better because before you would, you could be
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saddled with a bitch and you had to stay with her.
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Um, now you can try a six month free trial, see how she is.
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She'll obviously switch up after marriage, but you know, maybe if you have a pretty good
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vetting system, you can see if she's not right.
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So the mystery method says you need to spend eight hours with a girl.
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And I'm hearing reports from the field that it's taking less than that, like three hours
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So what used to be full on courting, dedicating for life in exchange for the poonanny, now
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Um, there is no guarantee if she says she was a virgin that that's even true.
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Saving your virginity until your wedding night still runs the risk of the woman divorcing
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you five to seven years later and you get to miss out on the best sex.
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The pre-marriage, ask any married guy, was the sex better before marriage or after marriage?
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And the church, the trad cons, they convinced the men, they're like, miss out on the best
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Um, and taking your kids and half of what you have.
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So what does a woman saving herself for marriage or even a guy taking a woman's virginity mean
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Um, but I've seen too many virgin wives take their men to the divorce cleaners or, um, I've
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seen too many of the women I knew that lost their virginities.
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I mean, and I'm going to divide into how women tend to lose their virginities and the typical,
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So I do think women should be virgins in the original marriage contract, but unfortunately
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And they're saying, okay, they're like ordering.
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You're like, I want, um, okay, can I have a, an in shape woman?
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And they're like, no, can I have a woman without debt?
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And they're like, yeah, but it's going to cost you this much.
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And they're like, what, what virgins just, can I see the virgins you have on the menu?
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And they come up and they're like, here's a virgin woman that's built her brand off of
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So she touts about it online and at church and uses it for clout.
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And it's going to be a big deal when you guys get together and everyone's going to
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And the guy's like, Ooh, I don't know about that.
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And then the next one is like, here's a virgin, but she's fat.
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He's like, can you get on like a workout plan maybe?
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And then you get the next virgin and it's a hot 18 year old.
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And then, you know, the guy's like, oh, I'll take that one.
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But, you know, then the streets start calling and she gets invited to raves, hang out with
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That's what I see with the seven pluses of virgin women.
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Like when I was younger, they would, um, they would lose their virginity to a guy they would
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date for a few years and they could have the marriage outcome with him, but then they would
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They'd say, see, uh, you know, it is what it is.
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Um, uh, and this is, I think people get agitated with me because sometimes I switch back and
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And I've really tried to, to evolve my content to talk about what is and not what should be.
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Because I realized talking about what should be is a waste of time.
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Like women shouldn't vote, but who cares that we're always gonna like, well, that's going
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Um, and the virgin women, then the men order again and they get a virgin woman, but she's
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28 and she's been finger blasted like 20 times.
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I have to wait for marriage for someone who got finger blasted by 20 guys or she blew
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We need to sell this for 10 99, you know, and the men are like, that's not really right.
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And I'm just listing the virgins I've seen over the years.
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She's, she's, you know, she's kind of used, kind of idiotic.
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And then occasionally, occasionally you do get a very nice, sweet, feminine, virgin
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woman for now, for now, because that's until she gets into the wrong friend group.
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She gets invited to the wrong party cooked, cooked.
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And what I, what I get irritated with is I get the men that married virgins.
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Um, so they don't even know for sure, but they're over a certain age.
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You know, the virgin women of yesterday, they are not the virgin women that today, I'm sorry.
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And what keeps happening is we keep trying to, men keep trying to make whores.
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Men keep trying to make, they, they keep attempting to make whores, which is women's like natural
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They cannot compute with the fact that all women have the proclivity and to some extent
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Now, a woman may not do it because it's not in her best interest, right?
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A woman might not do it because her reputation, she wants to keep intact.
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She knows that if she's too much of a whore, she won't get married, but that's all off the
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Women are corn stars and they're getting married.
00:35:35.060
So in the past, women had incentives to keep them virgins, but it wasn't like women didn't
00:35:42.960
I mean, guys, women fought a hundred years of nagging.
00:35:47.740
They nagged men for a hundred years to be whores.
00:35:56.100
They could have said, men, we want world peace.
00:36:03.480
I just, I just want, I just want the world to be peaceful.
00:36:09.820
But women said, men, I want to be able to have sex unprotected.
00:36:13.700
I want him to finish in me and I want to not get pregnant.
00:36:25.320
And then the women said, I can't be with this ugly guy.
00:36:34.060
I could be fat and in debt, but I cannot settle.
00:36:37.700
And the men said, fine, you can divorce your husbands.
00:36:56.380
I don't want to have kids with this guy that's ugly.
00:37:06.940
You guys want to kill your, you want to, you want to abort your children?
00:37:12.660
And the women, and the women said, yes, yes, please.
00:37:21.880
We'll give you guys three months to abort your kids.
00:37:39.700
You can't figure out if you're pregnant in three months?
00:37:46.820
I want to wait till that kid is damn near born.
00:38:08.860
So, you know, it's easy to say shit, but all women have this inclination to some extent.
00:38:14.300
All women want to be with the guy she can be a whore for.
00:38:19.740
But unfortunately, conservative men, they shoot themselves in the foot.
00:38:23.540
That's why I say, in a way, the liberal men are less cucked than conservative men.
00:38:29.000
Because the conservative men, like, and I always bring up this example, but it's a perfect example.
00:38:46.040
Not really because he's a nice person, but he got his reputation destroyed.
00:38:53.800
But he was dumb enough to believe a 27-year-old.
00:39:08.760
Where Destiny, Destiny comes in and said, do you know what?
00:39:15.340
I'm going to enjoy this relationship while it lasts.
00:39:24.480
But I would argue that Crowder was more cucked in that situation.
00:39:38.600
I don't think I'm contradicting myself by saying women should, should be virgins on their wedding nights.
00:39:47.800
But, and so, what happens is usually the women that actually are virgins until marriage are either lying, bitchy, naggy, or there's something seriously wrong with them.
00:40:02.880
That's been my, or they get so much clout and they take so much status off of being a virgin that they get these big egos and it's game over, too.
00:40:17.040
We got to get rid of this idea that somehow virgin women are somehow more moral people.
00:40:23.500
Now, maybe you could argue they're more moral than, say, the OnlyFans models.
00:40:28.420
But just because you're a virgin, all a virgin is doing is not doing.
00:40:35.400
They signal purity or like they're good people because they don't sleep around.
00:40:40.580
But it's like you're just not doing something that's not being kind, it's not being considerate, it's not being helpful.
00:40:55.320
I, I'm trying to think of some of my worst traits here.
00:41:01.000
I don't know how much I want to tell on myself today.
00:41:10.020
I'm kind of fidgety, you know, I talk too much.
00:41:13.080
I'm not always considerate when, um, there's just times in my life where I wish, I wish I was a better person, right?
00:41:27.040
I get, I'm an emotional person, so sometimes that gets me in trouble.
00:41:32.900
I've never done, I've never done Molly, Percocet, any, any drug.
00:41:37.860
I, I mean, I don't really think, I guess weed, I don't know if I should be admitting that on the internet, but like once or twice, but I've never really been into that either, right?
00:42:04.420
Oh, and I get so annoyed when things take forever.
00:42:06.920
It, it, it, on one end, it's fueled me because I think it's actually driven me to like achieve things because I get so annoyed that things aren't happening that I just keep trying to make it happen.
00:42:17.800
But at the same time, I just, the slow and steady wins the race thing.
00:42:23.180
I, you know what, when I've ever gotten good at something, it's been, I got obsessed with this for a year and I got good at it.
00:42:30.220
Um, but I'm also kind of like, I can be fooled easily.
00:42:37.460
Um, so, you know, like, I just think, um, I think I could, I could see myself getting put into like a, a cult or something.
00:42:54.120
But it doesn't make me a better person or more moral.
00:43:00.980
Now there are some bad habits that you might pick up if you're a druggie, right?
00:43:06.360
The same way there are some terrible habits you'll probably pick up if you're too much of a whore.
00:43:11.380
But too often women rely on like having a low body count or virginity as a way to signal virtue.
00:43:18.620
And it's really just not doing something that nobody really should know about anyways.
00:43:30.220
And to be honest, guys, I just don't really see virgins taking the men that women want.
00:43:36.360
So I know you're saying this is like a, a Pearl's like jealous or whatever.
00:43:42.400
I think I'm more jealous of Bonnie Blue, to be honest.
00:43:47.460
I mean, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to take a thousand, you know, that's a lot.
00:43:51.580
But, you know, I mean, that chick, I mean, hell, she's, she's living in like a penthouse in London and all she's got to do is have sex.
00:44:03.860
So I'm like, that's pretty, I mean, I personally, I could never be comfortable with that.
00:44:14.920
So the challenge is the virgin women today have way more power and options than the virgin women of yesterday.
00:44:23.360
So we cannot reasonably expect them to make the same choices as the virgin women of yesterday.
00:44:32.260
Because before it was like you're excommunicated from your community.
00:44:37.140
You could never like, you could really, you're going to be looked at like a prostitute.
00:44:45.160
We're now, I mean, women can make a divorce brand.
00:44:49.800
Women can literally make money and build an online following of divorce.
00:44:59.920
Now, the next comment I got was that virgins can pair bond and non-virgins cannot.
00:45:07.300
Now, I have to look back at my, my personal experience.
00:45:16.100
Now, you have to understand that I do have a lot of enemies and I try to, I try to be respectful in what I share.
00:45:25.100
But while I would say for me, that was a very bonding experience.
00:45:31.220
I cannot say that was the majority of what I saw with women when I was younger.
00:45:38.620
In fact, I was shocked by how little it meant to women when I was younger.
00:45:49.140
And I'm going to change these stories a little bit.
00:45:52.580
Not that I knew would, any of you would know who I'm talking about.
00:45:55.740
But I'm going to list some ways that I knew women lost it and what happened.
00:46:04.620
I mean, she lost it at a party to a guy she never saw again and she did not care.
00:46:09.080
She just kind of wanted to get it over with so she could join in on the fun.
00:46:13.400
Another woman I know, she did lose it to a Chad and she did like that Chad for like a year.
00:46:19.520
Then she banged like 20 dudes, met her husband.
00:46:23.440
She got out of the game at like 22, married, kids.
00:46:28.640
Another woman I knew had a high school boyfriend, lost her virginity to.
00:46:33.200
And I remember her explicitly telling me she didn't really understand why women were so attached, right?
00:46:38.380
She was like, I mean, I just dumped him when I went to college.
00:46:50.280
I mean, a lot of women I saw, they didn't really care.
00:46:52.620
Now, what I saw, the patterns, actually kind of, it was more based on women's looks level.
00:47:00.760
Hot women didn't care as much because they had more choice.
00:47:08.620
But not all, and I can, even as I'm saying this, I'm still thinking of women that I knew that definitely contradicted this.
00:47:19.980
But still, still, I would say broad brush strokes, right?
00:47:24.720
So, the virgins of today are not the virgins of yesterday because the virgins of yesterday did not have access to social media.
00:47:36.720
The reason I'm saying this, it's not to be a downer.
00:47:39.840
I'm not saying that the world should be this way.
00:47:44.040
But if virginity was so bonding, women would stay with the men they lost their virginities to.
00:47:51.740
And what I see more often is from the women with the most choice, a starter high school boyfriend, slut phase in college, starter college boyfriend, graduate, city boyfriend.
00:48:04.980
At one point, the women opt out, how early, how slutty do they get in each phase?
00:48:16.060
But the reason I'm saying this is not to be a downer.
00:48:24.940
But I want to remind you that just because she's a virgin, it doesn't mean she's not going to ruin your life.
00:48:32.780
It doesn't mean, you know, if you want to take it as jealousy, that's totally fine.
00:48:41.060
I really, you know, I have a lot of negative traits.
00:48:46.000
I'm not going to be holier than thou here and pretend.
00:48:52.680
It's interesting because a lot of the adjectives that are negative that I get, I get called online.
00:49:10.080
But there are negative adjectives that I would agree.
00:49:14.700
You know, they used to say you don't have enough life experience.
00:49:19.020
I think when I started, I wish I had more life experience because some of the takes I had just weren't the best.
00:49:28.500
You know, I would say I was maybe too moralistic to start.
00:49:39.860
But the virgins I've met today, I would say in general, they're either not that attractive.
00:49:47.040
And I want to stress, if they're over a certain age and have not lost their virginity, it's really not because of morals, but generally because they are either very unattractive in some way, grossly overrank themselves, or just don't have access to the type of men they want.
00:50:01.620
And the mids suffer the most that try to hold out because you really, as a mid, you've got to lower your price.
00:50:11.020
And these churches, telling a mid to wait till marriage is like the worst advice you could give a mid.
00:50:17.120
You can give a beautiful woman that advice, but a mid, yeah, right.
00:50:21.080
Men are not waiting for a mid, I'll tell you that.
00:50:26.940
I mean, maybe you could do an age gap and you could shoot for it.
00:50:30.980
But if you want men your age, I don't see that working.
00:50:37.320
So stories I've heard from men of men that have taken women's virginities.
00:50:44.980
She became a flight attendant, got a tattoo, and didn't really care after.
00:50:51.120
Usually hot women have a starter boyfriend that they leave.
00:50:54.160
Mid women tend to lose it to a chad, either in a situationship or a one-night stand.
00:51:09.000
Yes, men with choice do want virgins, but they do not want virgins more than they value their freedom and ability to bang multiple women.
00:51:17.260
So a lot of the guys with choice really are not going to wait until marriage because they've really, once they've taken a few girls' virginities, they don't really think it's this, like, great thing that they thought it was because some of the women were bitches after.
00:51:35.100
They're like, oh, my gosh, what if I committed the rest of my life to this woman and she flipped a switch?
00:51:41.060
Which, you know, chads take a lot of women's virginities, and chads aren't going to stay with you just because you're a virgin.
00:51:51.100
If you're a bitch, they'll dump you and leave you.
00:51:53.500
I would argue that religious women are also more likely to call you abusive on the way out because they're more concerned with the reputation of the liberal women.
00:52:01.360
Now, I do want to, I don't want to give the virgins too much smoke.
00:52:07.560
Obviously, the pros is that women are more able to bond the less partners they've had.
00:52:19.740
However, the virgins of today, the virgins of yesterday did not have social media.
00:52:33.800
And we're going to put Doug MPA on the line in a second.
00:52:46.520
And then I'm going to put it in the chat and on Twitter.
00:53:03.040
I missed the naive, innocent pearl a few years ago.
00:53:09.800
This is why men like younger women because now I'm the annoying one.
00:53:13.640
I have to be the annoying one being like, yeah, that's not real.
00:53:23.840
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know, when I started, yeah, I was, I was very naive.
00:53:46.040
I know this is kind of annoying, but I forgot my password.
00:53:54.660
So, I want to know, have you guys banged virgins?
00:54:20.540
I mean, and I'm not here to tell men how to live.
00:54:35.240
Like, because you're basically, the only leverage you have as a man.
00:54:39.520
Because you can't be in a traditional marriage in 2025.
00:54:47.420
Because in order to be in a traditional marriage, you have to be able to enforce.
00:54:54.960
You have to be able to lay that, like, you know, imagine if we had a police officer, right?
00:55:00.340
And when I interact with a cop, I have to submit, right?
00:55:06.060
I always, like, when they're coming up, I put my hands on the wheels to know I don't have anything.
00:55:10.700
You know, I make them feel comfortable, whatever.
00:55:16.020
And the reason I go is because I know they have the power to ruin my life.
00:55:21.020
But if you marry a woman, you're automatically giving her more power to ruin your life.
00:55:26.580
The only leverage you have is women hate being cheated on.
00:55:30.300
So if women know that you're going to cheat if you treat her bad, that's enforcement.
00:55:35.660
It's not, you know, you might say it's immoral.
00:55:42.880
Making her work for a ring and saying, I'm not going to marry you if you don't do X, Y, and Z and behave.
00:55:55.000
But what the conservatives do is they tell men to give up.
00:55:59.960
They say you're immoral and you are wrong for giving up your leverage.
00:56:04.760
Because you need to, now basically, they tell men to be traditional when the women aren't traditional.
00:56:28.340
So I can, I can kick you guys, which is amazing, before I wasn't in control.
00:56:46.620
I was that, the black dude that was, these poor Mormon girls grew up in a repressive religious household.
00:56:55.720
And their revenge was to sleep with a black dude.
00:57:08.160
Yeah, and so was your experience that they were super bonded?
00:57:11.460
Did, I, I would say, so would you, was your, how many virginities did you take, I guess, is my first question?
00:57:31.320
So I went through, my very first relationship in my life was five years.
00:57:40.500
And after five years, I was like, yeah, I know.
00:57:49.080
You know, I started running into these girls in my undergrad and that happened.
00:57:54.480
And I was like, nope, I spent five years in a relationship from my late teens to early 20s.
00:58:01.400
But it's interesting because in a way, the women must not have, like, how do I put it?
00:58:06.020
Like, when men are in a relationship phase, virgins never pick them.
00:58:17.760
You know how men have a menu and women have a menu, that analogy?
00:58:21.660
And women can order a man in a relationship phase, but we order the fun guy.
00:58:28.280
And so it's like, if women really wanted to wait, why did you order the fun guy?
00:58:38.400
And she's bonded to you, but then you still have the risk.
00:58:43.340
It's a screwed up situation all the way around.
00:58:49.200
No, you don't want to wait till marriage to have sex because a man doesn't truly audit a woman for a relationship until after sex happens.
00:59:01.900
Guys put up with all sorts of stuff until they get sex.
00:59:14.640
And these guys were dumb enough to marry these women without having sex with them.
00:59:20.180
And then they're stuck with the woman after sex happens.
00:59:26.080
And so even if you're not married, you sleep with the girl, you bond with her,
00:59:34.500
Your perception of her is going to change after you have sex with her.
00:59:38.560
Then her perception of you is going to change after you marry her.
00:59:44.340
So they get married, they bang, and they're like, oh, shit, that was starfish sex.
00:59:52.000
There's no better sex than the sex before marriage because that's when women after are working for the ring.
00:59:58.240
How many guys in the chat never heard, I'm too tired or I have a headache until they got married?
01:00:07.760
Or actually, nowadays, you hear that after you move in with a woman.
01:00:44.320
Now, it's been a long time because I have a rule because I don't, if you're a virgin at any age, I don't care.
01:00:58.920
Like, you know, you're like, tell me, see, guys, don't tell them up from like, hey, this is just a thing.
01:01:07.640
But then after you give them the D, they think that you're their husband.
01:01:16.660
But no, before you were in the market for marriage at one point.
01:01:22.220
So, like, what would be wrong with a clingy woman?
01:01:26.320
Because like what, what Doug said, now, now we realize we have, we're, we have, we now aware of all your annoyingness.
01:01:35.080
Like we tolerated it and we realize, you know, after the sex versus your irritation level that you guys give us, it's just not worth it.
01:01:48.800
So, you know, and here's the thing, though, women, a bunch of women always say they're virgins.
01:01:55.520
Doug, you know how many women have probably told you that I've never done this before?
01:02:01.820
I think that I've never done this before is a lie.
01:02:08.560
I mean, well, I've never, you've never had girls that said that they've never done this before.
01:02:20.000
A lot of women that say I've never done this before will say that about anything besides missionary sex.
01:02:29.060
Oh, yeah, you know, I've never, I've never swallowed before.
01:02:32.460
Or, you know, I've never taken it in the back door.
01:02:35.260
You know, I've never, yeah, I've heard them say that.
01:02:38.040
I wouldn't assume that a woman that says I've never done this before is a virgin.
01:02:41.660
I think it's still a strong kind of, a different kind of thing if a woman says I'm a virgin and she's not.
01:02:47.940
But, yes, I would agree that women do lie about being virgins, though.
01:02:58.040
Because, one, I can never validate that, verify that, or, you know, fact checking.
01:03:07.760
I can't get a report on that badge check, okay?
01:03:09.960
Since there's no badge check, you just want me to take your word for it.
01:03:19.000
So I'm just going to assume that you have a past.
01:03:22.080
So with that being said, it's just like, I don't care if she's a virgin or not.
01:03:27.600
If she doesn't treat you right, if she doesn't treat you the way that you want your future wife to treat you,
01:03:51.260
In a second, we'll have you go through the history.
01:03:54.180
You know, I've been trying to get a hold of you, Shaw.
01:04:00.200
And you're able to pass on this question if you don't want it.
01:04:09.620
You know, I didn't start dating until a little later.
01:04:11.840
And the way I date now, to be honest, it's not really a concern for me.
01:04:25.600
Tradcon's trying to say that a woman saving herself until marriage
01:04:29.560
is supposed to be some kind of predictor of good behavior or virtue.
01:04:34.440
Like, do you think that there's any truth to that at all?
01:04:44.780
like 90% of the time she's a bitch who uses it to like...
01:05:08.820
And she actually was a sweetheart, but she was done by 21.
01:05:25.880
So she went to a school that I'll just say her type was at.
01:05:39.060
That's why like when I meet them and they're like 24,
01:05:52.800
they get clout for like telling everybody that.
01:06:01.060
you could go through maybe some of the history of marriage.
01:06:09.720
Now, obviously, we can't verify the virginity stuff.
01:06:19.200
like age, like what age women married at before,
01:06:29.340
And you know what most people today are familiar with
01:06:35.980
And that's what they consider traditional marriage.
01:06:46.520
I mean, it got abolished in France in the 1960s.
01:07:06.340
I have a newspaper clipping of the Pope handing out dowries.
01:07:13.420
And the women, it says in the newspaper clipping,
01:07:22.760
So this dowry system was what marriage was in the West.
01:07:41.020
because one of the other systems is bride price,
01:07:50.080
you can pretty much guess that they're a lot more advanced.
01:07:52.680
Because bride price societies are typically poorer.
01:08:00.380
which is there was a set amount, a uniform amount.
01:08:19.120
And nestled within all that is changes in family law.
01:08:24.680
Divorce and polygyny tend to be a little higher
01:08:49.500
and things like that going for almost 2,000 years
01:09:04.160
which as soon as the American Revolution happens,
01:09:08.260
and say, we want divorce to be a thing we can do.
01:09:13.840
because they didn't have anything to fall back on
01:09:22.080
from the Church and put into the hands of the state.
01:09:24.840
And divorces used to happen in the state legislature.
01:09:28.500
And then it started being taken over by the civil courts
01:09:34.580
I think that's what it was in New York early on
01:09:40.980
because I know that's what you're talking about,
01:09:43.200
the way these different systems of marriage come up
01:10:01.000
women contributed the major labor value to agriculture.
01:10:09.400
was because her family was losing her labor value
01:10:19.700
either for the guy who might have his second wife now
01:11:17.220
being transmitted throughout generations, okay?
02:05:14.480
little apartment and uh uh I'll knit and bake and do uh
02:05:18.860
other what would normally be seen as wifely tasks or wifely
02:05:23.540
things traditionally uh but not really going anywhere with it
02:05:28.960
yeah cool well thank you so much for calling in that was a great call so
02:05:42.440
yeah I like it that was a really good panel we have to have that panel on
02:05:47.700
again that was great so many different viewpoints
02:05:54.400
uh because we're gonna do a panel show tomorrow
02:05:59.220
I mean I think it's gonna be a recurring Wednesday thing
02:06:02.040
um we're gonna start at nine because it seems like we might be able to get
02:06:09.200
um more panelists at that time I don't know if it's gonna be regularly at
02:06:19.040
if if we must do it I will so I I'd love feedback from you guys I
02:06:24.720
really want you guys to be involved in the process of as we like develop this
02:06:32.360
studio soon so we're gonna have more capabilities in
02:06:37.300
the future we really just want to make this really good in the future so
02:06:40.280
um the more feedback we can get from you guys in the comments the better
02:06:44.420
um doug mpa you want um any final thoughts today
02:06:51.980
I think there was a time where a woman being a virgin was valued
02:06:56.180
um it's just it's just not the same man you can't
02:07:00.140
like I said there's getting to know a woman to have sex
02:07:04.740
and then getting to know a woman after sex has happened for
02:07:07.760
relationship you can't wait until marriage to have sex with a woman you
02:07:12.660
you could be dooming yourself to five to seven years of torment and then she's
02:07:16.980
gonna leave you anyway you you have to have there's there are
02:07:20.220
comfortability levels so there's sleeping with the woman that's a
02:07:23.720
comfortability level moving in with the woman is another one like
02:07:27.060
you have if you choose to get married and let's face it guys a lot of us red
02:07:31.080
people are gonna don't get married don't have kids but in my lifetime the
02:07:34.520
majority of men are gonna get married right you choose to do so make sure you
02:07:39.180
sleep with the girl first and move in with the girl first and then meet your
02:07:42.780
family if you can but this whole um virginity has no predictor of future
02:07:48.460
success just because you're her first nine times out of ten you're not going to
02:07:55.800
so i mean you know don't embrace the other side and bang a bunch of whores but
02:08:01.320
still like the whole virgin thing guys i mean come on
02:08:04.480
yeah the girls are crashing out in the chat but you guys
02:08:14.600
in the chat talking trash and none of them like yeah you guys call in
02:08:18.880
all right well not today though because i got i you know it's there's one more
02:08:26.320
my best friend married a 30 year old version and found out the hard way she
02:08:31.660
had mental health issues now he's getting divorced
02:08:33.900
yeah it's not really because you have to understand the best the most dateable
02:08:41.940
so i mean am i yeah so anyways guys let me know what you think in the comments
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thanks so much for tuning in thanks doug mpa um for coming as usual
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um any final thoughts you want to say before i close out the show
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nope i like this stream yard thing a lot better than zoom
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yeah so much better all right thanks doug mpa um
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all right guys thanks for watching i love you guys um and i'm telling you
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the next few months this this show is going to be one of the biggest shows on
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youtube again so i were monetized we've been kind of
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playing it safe for a few months now we can start reinvesting in the
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um i'm probably going to pick a team pretty soon for that
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but it's either i have to stay monetized another six months
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until we get enough donations i i hate having to prolong it but
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yeah so anyways guys like the video subscribe and i'll see you next time