JustPearlyThings - August 19, 2025


Virgin Women Over 25 Have Something Wrong with Them (Call-In Show) | Pearl Daily


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 9 minutes

Words per Minute

172.12552

Word Count

22,333

Sentence Count

1,402

Misogynist Sentences

323

Hate Speech Sentences

224


Summary

A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage and why it s bad for men to get married, and why women should get married young. Women are so willing to leave marriages because they are not happy, and the most important thing is the children. Feminism s biggest failure lies to women.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Two, one.
00:00:01.640 So there's this clip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
00:00:07.240 Do we need men?
00:00:09.660 Most answered very quickly, no.
00:00:12.460 Because men are useless.
00:00:15.380 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
00:00:18.480 Most young men are single.
00:00:20.180 Most young women are not.
00:00:21.420 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
00:00:26.280 It's a different world now.
00:00:27.280 Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
00:00:29.300 Nobody needs men.
00:00:30.560 The future is female.
00:00:33.560 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
00:00:40.400 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
00:00:43.380 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.
00:00:46.100 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
00:00:49.540 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
00:00:53.740 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.
00:00:56.220 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
00:00:59.400 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
00:01:04.360 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
00:01:07.980 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
00:01:11.640 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
00:01:14.420 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
00:01:19.680 Gee, what could go wrong there?
00:01:21.740 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
00:01:25.400 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
00:01:28.280 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
00:01:30.900 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
00:01:35.940 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
00:01:39.140 You need no evidence.
00:01:40.260 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,
00:01:43.940 and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
00:01:47.300 I interviewed them on the other side.
00:01:49.860 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
00:01:52.160 How much did you spend trying to get him back?
00:01:54.300 On legal fees alone was about $200,000.
00:01:56.640 Before you know it, you're homeless.
00:01:57.860 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
00:02:00.020 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
00:02:02.420 Wives are taught to leave their husbands.
00:02:04.340 And then daughters grow up without their fathers.
00:02:06.700 Family is a foundation of society.
00:02:08.400 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
00:02:11.580 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
00:02:15.880 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
00:02:17.860 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
00:02:19.680 We tell them to put off family into marriage.
00:02:21.460 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
00:02:24.060 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
00:02:28.980 Oh, freeze your ex.
00:02:29.740 Have an abortion.
00:02:30.780 What?
00:02:31.180 You're evil.
00:02:32.020 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
00:02:35.900 Right.
00:02:36.140 Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic,
00:02:40.000 naturally, the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
00:02:42.720 It's self-sabotage.
00:02:43.660 That's the thing.
00:02:44.200 Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
00:02:47.400 This is not about happiness.
00:02:48.900 The most important thing is the children.
00:02:51.560 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave
00:02:56.200 when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
00:03:00.100 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?
00:03:03.840 They think, well, men have all the rights.
00:03:05.380 They have all the power.
00:03:06.680 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
00:03:08.940 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
00:03:11.560 I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
00:03:14.800 Men are alone in this situation.
00:03:16.720 Men are homeless.
00:03:17.340 Men are thinking about eating guns.
00:03:19.520 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.
00:03:23.920 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
00:03:29.300 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
00:03:33.400 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
00:03:36.040 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol,
00:03:40.020 three times higher among men than among women.
00:03:43.060 Culture is telling men, you are no good.
00:03:44.940 You've got to get your act together.
00:03:45.980 I think men have failed themselves.
00:03:47.820 What kind of a man are you?
00:03:49.020 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
00:03:51.040 If men are in trouble, so are women.
00:03:53.960 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
00:03:57.640 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get...
00:03:59.880 500K.
00:04:00.540 500K.
00:04:01.160 300K.
00:04:01.500 300K.
00:04:01.960 200K.
00:04:02.380 Am I crazy?
00:04:03.100 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
00:04:05.380 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
00:04:08.780 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
00:04:12.900 Women.
00:04:13.260 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
00:04:16.500 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
00:04:18.780 I'm over it.
00:04:19.940 When is it going to be my turn?
00:04:21.240 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
00:04:22.980 I can't keep having these same conversations.
00:04:25.760 The only simp here is you, Pearl.
00:04:27.060 You simp for men.
00:04:27.780 No, I think you simp for women.
00:04:29.080 She's a provocateur.
00:04:30.060 She says stupid stuff.
00:04:31.240 But Pearl is right about this.
00:04:32.500 It's already happening.
00:04:33.660 It's just not out in the open yet.
00:04:35.060 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want
00:04:38.720 a wife and women can't find a husband.
00:04:40.780 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
00:04:45.020 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
00:04:49.020 Civilization will crumble.
00:04:50.700 The American story does not end well.
00:04:53.240 This is an existential crisis failing young men.
00:04:56.160 What is up, everybody?
00:05:07.160 How are you?
00:05:08.500 Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here at the Audacity Network.
00:05:13.860 Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
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00:05:28.200 So as you guys know, my mission when I came into this space was I just wanted to have a
00:05:32.700 divorce documentary.
00:05:34.300 That's all I wanted to do.
00:05:36.680 And unfortunately, they demonetized me for a year and a half.
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00:06:35.040 All right.
00:06:35.480 So today we're talking about virgin women.
00:06:38.140 So last show, I did a reaction to a video.
00:06:42.600 And I said, men say they want virgin women until they see the virgin women available.
00:06:49.620 I said, men, they constantly gaslight the same way women gaslight us about what we find
00:06:57.160 attractive.
00:06:57.860 Sometimes men do the exact same thing to us.
00:07:02.140 Now, remember, in girl world, we only care about what attractive men think.
00:07:09.380 Now, I'm not saying this is right.
00:07:11.240 I'm not saying this is a good thing, but we have a new series on this channel and it's
00:07:17.620 called It Is What It Is.
00:07:19.540 So this is a segment on Pearl Daily where I talk about the way the world is, not the way
00:07:24.000 I want it to be, not the way I wish it was.
00:07:26.700 You know, I had a friend of mine say that should is the worst word in the human language because
00:07:36.600 it's just wish a wish list.
00:07:38.820 And I realized that I myself as a YouTuber, I use this term just a lot.
00:07:45.120 And I actually almost got embarrassed thinking about it after I came to this realization.
00:07:52.660 You know, when you're a YouTuber and you talk for a living, you're forced to deal with
00:07:57.200 uncomfortable truths about yourself because if you don't notice them, the world notices
00:08:01.700 them for you.
00:08:04.060 So one of them that I learned was that when I was younger, I was very idealistic and unrealistic.
00:08:10.840 And so I would say things like, you know, I can't say that anymore.
00:08:18.140 Or women should be in the kitchen.
00:08:20.160 Women should make a sandwich.
00:08:21.400 And these things are funny, right?
00:08:22.720 They're hilarious.
00:08:23.620 I'm always trying to put in an entertaining show for you guys.
00:08:26.060 But it's not realistic, right?
00:08:28.980 It's not, this isn't, this isn't something that is a realistic point of view.
00:08:35.720 And I think that's where a lot of liberals are born.
00:08:38.540 That's where a lot of liberals, they look at us conservatives and they're saying, what
00:08:42.680 world do you guys live in?
00:08:44.620 You guys are insane.
00:08:45.480 Are you not seeing what's going on?
00:08:48.000 And I'm not saying the liberals are right either.
00:08:50.380 The liberal men, I mean, we see the way that they simp to no end.
00:08:54.420 They really do.
00:08:55.180 They're like the, they're like the Incredibles, you know, that show, but just in simping.
00:09:02.380 But in a way, conservatives simp harder.
00:09:06.180 Now, I'm going to talk about this topic and you guys aren't going to be able to call in.
00:09:10.840 But there was one comment that actually sparked this whole show.
00:09:15.540 And I can't, I forgot to put the name of the person who said it, but maybe Doug MPA,
00:09:20.660 you can find the comment and put in the chat.
00:09:22.400 But I copied and pasted their comment.
00:09:25.180 And I caught, I, I did this because I really thought to myself, I understand why he thinks
00:09:38.640 this.
00:09:39.000 I really do.
00:09:40.680 Um, it probably does seem contradictory.
00:09:43.540 So my take is that female virgins have something wrong with them more times than they don't.
00:09:56.020 Now, I'd like to differentiate female virgins below a certain age, you could argue, maybe
00:10:03.740 they don't, but I don't think virginity is this bonding construct the way that it used to be.
00:10:15.880 I think at one point, maybe so.
00:10:18.900 But the virgins of today are just not the virgins of yesterday.
00:10:22.980 And the reason I came to this conclusion was real life experience.
00:10:28.540 You know, you see the stats about body count, right?
00:10:32.900 And you think to yourself, well, that's obviously the women with the higher body counts
00:10:37.760 are the whores.
00:10:39.260 And that's true.
00:10:40.120 There is truth to that.
00:10:41.420 I'm not saying it's not.
00:10:42.380 But I like to have more nuanced conversations on this channel.
00:10:47.880 So during the last show, I reacted to a clip of a woman named Riley who went on a dating
00:10:54.100 show and she was a socially awkward woman.
00:10:56.880 Um, not the most attractive, maybe like a five or a four.
00:11:00.740 She went on this dating show and she pitched herself to 20 guys and she was rejected.
00:11:05.780 And listening to her talk, I don't think I would be shocked if she was a virgin.
00:11:11.000 I really wouldn't.
00:11:11.640 I don't know if she is or she isn't, but she fit one of the archetypes of virgins I've
00:11:17.060 seen on the market.
00:11:19.180 So the comment, so during, during this show, I titled it, men say they want virgins until
00:11:26.880 it comes down to picking them.
00:11:29.540 So the comment said Pearl went from women should be virgin and young to know you don't want
00:11:35.020 a virgin.
00:11:35.620 Seriously, Pearl isn't consistent at all.
00:11:37.680 She's insecure about her situation, about not being a virgin and aging and couldn't live
00:11:42.420 up to the standards she originally argued about.
00:11:44.860 And now is trying to convince people that no, you don't want a virgin.
00:11:49.060 Subconsciously, she comes across as jealous that everyone gets married first, regardless
00:11:52.540 of if they're a virgin or not.
00:11:54.020 And I, you know, I do read the comments.
00:11:57.620 So I looked at this comment and I said, I can understand why he thinks that.
00:12:02.240 But I want to pitch to you guys my ideas.
00:12:05.760 I want you to have an open mind.
00:12:07.620 And at the end, you could tell me if you agree or disagree, we could do a call in show.
00:12:14.040 Now, I'm not saying I am the end all be all, but all I am repeating back is what I have seen
00:12:20.040 on the market.
00:12:21.780 So the first definition I think is really important is what is a virgin woman?
00:12:27.660 Now, you would think you really would think that this would be something that we all just
00:12:32.400 agree on, right?
00:12:34.880 You would think that we would know, like a virgin's a girl that never had sex, right?
00:12:40.380 That's what you would think.
00:12:45.300 That's what, that's what, that's what you would think.
00:12:48.500 All right, now I'm going to share the screen.
00:12:52.640 So the definition of a virgin is a person who has never had sexual intercourse.
00:13:00.120 That's, that's the one.
00:13:02.600 Number two is an unmarried woman devoted to religion.
00:13:05.920 So women are sneaking in, they're sneaking in another definition.
00:13:15.580 They're sneaking in another definition into, into Webster.
00:13:23.280 Can you imagine?
00:13:24.020 That's how women, that's how women manipulate is we have a tendency to change the definition
00:13:28.460 of words.
00:13:30.120 Three had absolutely chaste young woman or four, Virgin Mary.
00:13:34.040 So I prefer definition three.
00:13:36.220 So for the purpose of this conversation, I would say a virgin woman is a woman that has
00:13:41.640 never done anything that could give her an STD.
00:13:48.340 BJs, that can give you an STD.
00:13:51.920 Getting finger blasted, hand jobs, that can give you an STD.
00:13:55.900 Soaking, I'm pretty sure that can give you an STD.
00:14:00.000 So all of the workarounds here at Pearl Daily, we do not count those hoes.
00:14:06.180 Just because you found a way to get off without hoeing doesn't mean you're better than the
00:14:12.540 other hoes.
00:14:13.240 I put you in the same category.
00:14:15.420 I really do.
00:14:16.080 So, um, all right.
00:14:23.600 Now, the next question I had is, do women want to be virgins on their wedding day?
00:14:29.780 So conservative men have a tendency to have this idea that women want to wait till they're
00:14:34.440 married.
00:14:34.780 And they're just falling victim to these evil men who just take their virginity.
00:14:41.960 But if we look at what women are choosing, it does not look like women have any intention
00:14:47.860 or want to do this.
00:14:50.560 So let me share my screen.
00:14:52.060 Also, make sure you guys like the video.
00:15:06.580 All right.
00:15:06.800 Hit that like button.
00:15:08.640 Subscribe to the channel.
00:15:10.940 I, I hit, you know, okay.
00:15:14.120 Now they're saying this is a bad take because sharing a drink can give you an STD.
00:15:19.000 All right, guys, within reason, right?
00:15:22.420 I think if you could get off, if you can orgasm from a man, if you can, if that can happen,
00:15:29.180 if he's causing it, look it, I just don't, I just don't, I don't think you're that innocent.
00:15:34.920 Okay.
00:15:35.220 I don't, I don't.
00:15:38.040 And I am tired of being gaslit about this.
00:15:41.200 Obviously, obviously shit.
00:15:43.340 Like what was the point of that comment?
00:15:45.500 That was just a stupid comment.
00:15:46.840 I hate it when people know what you're saying, but they force you, they force you to give
00:15:54.220 a more detailed explanation.
00:15:57.120 That's annoying.
00:15:58.820 That's, I just want you to know in the chat, whoever put that, you're annoying.
00:16:03.040 That's an annoying thing to do.
00:16:05.640 All right.
00:16:06.100 So putting things in order, relationship sequencing, the preferences of American woman.
00:16:11.620 In America today, 70% of people cohabitate before marriage and 90% of people have sex before
00:16:18.160 they marry.
00:16:19.140 Moreover, 40% of kids are born to unmarried mothers.
00:16:22.400 It's easy to assume these trends are driven entirely by shifts in values and attitudes like
00:16:27.500 the sexual revolution or the deinstitutionalization of marriage.
00:16:33.580 But there's an alternative thesis as well.
00:16:36.420 Maybe the family breakdown has grown because people don't desire conventional sequencing of
00:16:41.560 marriage and childbearing, but because there are obstacles to this outcome.
00:16:46.320 So remember, they always want to take the blame away from women.
00:16:52.640 Okay.
00:16:52.920 They always want to do this.
00:16:56.040 They always want to say it's not because women want to do it.
00:16:58.900 They're brainwashed.
00:17:00.020 They're like, come on, guys.
00:17:03.520 The prevalence of damaging penalties that discourage marriage for working class people could be
00:17:08.420 prevented from many achieving family lives they want.
00:17:12.540 And indeed, family dissolution marriage penalties are a major concern of working class parents.
00:17:19.080 All right.
00:17:19.320 Number one.
00:17:24.600 Wait, hold on.
00:17:28.440 All right.
00:17:29.180 To explore the question of why the sequencing of family events has changed, I fielded a survey
00:17:40.360 about 3,000 women age 18 to 44.
00:17:43.680 And the survey was another wave of long-running surveys called the Demographic Intelligence of
00:17:49.220 Family Survey, which polls American women about their family attitudes, fertility preferences,
00:17:54.260 and lifestyle twice a year to provide market research for companies that make products for
00:17:58.900 children and moms, hence why it only surveyed women.
00:18:02.020 I assessed sequencing in a straightforward way.
00:18:04.940 I asked women to arrange six relationship stages based on what they thought would be the
00:18:09.420 best order for them personally.
00:18:11.840 The stages were getting married, moving in together, having a child, buying a house, meeting
00:18:16.080 each other's families, and having sex.
00:18:17.880 By forcing respondents to put these stages in order, I directly measured women's views of
00:18:23.060 what they would personally prefer for their own relationships.
00:18:26.020 In other words, I measured the extent to which high rates of cohabitation and premarital
00:18:32.020 sex reflect explicit value differences.
00:18:36.660 All right.
00:18:37.500 So women put the order women want relationships to happen.
00:18:41.360 They want to meet the family.
00:18:42.400 They want to have sex, move in together, then get married, and buy a house and have a child.
00:18:51.260 Contrary to popular Hollywood-driven narratives that frame meeting the family as a huge relationship
00:18:56.860 step that people want to postpone, women overwhelmingly selected meeting each other's families as their
00:19:02.280 first preferred step out of the sixth.
00:19:04.420 Now, to me, that's just a signal status.
00:19:07.240 Like, women love signaling status to the family.
00:19:09.840 On average, meeting the family was selected was the second listed item.
00:19:15.560 While this may seem counterintuitive, it's very straightforward.
00:19:18.720 Many women say they prefer to be in the relationship with someone who already knows their life and
00:19:23.480 background, not a stranger.
00:19:25.380 Other ways, other, now remember, women are gaslighting here because if that were true,
00:19:30.520 then we would be meeting in our hometowns and not on hinge.
00:19:33.800 Okay.
00:19:33.980 Otherwise, women may explicitly desire familiar approval for partners.
00:19:39.360 Furthermore, it's important to remember the question asked women about what would be best,
00:19:45.020 not typical.
00:19:45.740 If women knew up front that their potential partner was their best partner, they might move
00:19:50.000 in faster on meeting families.
00:19:52.920 Okay.
00:19:53.040 My point is that 78% of women in this survey picked an onboarding that prelaced homeownership
00:20:02.820 before children.
00:20:05.260 40% to 50% of newborns are born to renters.
00:20:10.180 Okay.
00:20:12.260 This survey also asked women if housing costs has impact.
00:20:15.640 Okay.
00:20:16.300 I don't really care.
00:20:17.260 I really wanted to just put, um, women want to marry before kids, but they definitely want
00:20:24.060 the sex before marriage.
00:20:25.420 The majority of women.
00:20:28.840 Sex at the first relationship stage.
00:20:31.200 And if we look at what women are picking, right, women aren't really picking to wait until
00:20:37.340 they're married.
00:20:40.000 We're really not, you know, I mean, it's just not something that we personally are choosing.
00:20:45.820 Okay.
00:20:46.080 Let me check the chat really quick.
00:20:49.940 So I really want to just kill this idea that women want to wait until we're married.
00:20:54.200 If we wanted to, we would, you know, we would be rushing to get with all the guys that are
00:20:58.900 offering commitment.
00:20:59.940 There's a ton of them, but we're not.
00:21:05.020 Okay.
00:21:05.460 So the next question I had, how many virgin brides are there and what are your chances of
00:21:11.380 finding one?
00:21:12.060 All right.
00:21:13.660 So less than 5% of women are virgins.
00:21:18.500 And that, that's what Grok told me.
00:21:20.940 So let's assume because women are liars, not all, not all, not all, that 2.5%, let's say
00:21:28.560 half are lying.
00:21:29.840 So out of a hundred women, you are going to meet 2.5% that are virgins and actually.
00:21:36.160 Now, what percent have given a hand job or a blow?
00:21:42.680 You know, we'll, we'll include that with the lying, even though I guarantee half of them
00:21:46.880 will have been finger blasted.
00:21:48.360 I'm just going to, I'm going to give it.
00:21:50.900 What percent are ugly?
00:21:52.440 What percent are fat?
00:21:53.860 Let's divide that in two.
00:21:55.160 I'm going to just subtract half a percent.
00:21:59.160 Let's say we're at, even though it's really higher, I'm just for shits and giggles going
00:22:03.180 to say 2%.
00:22:04.060 What percent are bitches?
00:22:06.960 Let's 1.5%.
00:22:08.860 Let's say now we get, we're dealing with left.
00:22:11.340 What percent, what percent are using their virginity to build their brand or have a lot
00:22:22.500 of debt?
00:22:22.920 Let's just, now let's say it's one out of a hundred women.
00:22:29.080 Now you say, you guys keep saying, Pearl, you're contradicting yourself.
00:22:33.280 Now, you said women should be virgins and that's where I really wanted to talk about
00:22:42.860 how the marriage contract has changed over time.
00:22:46.200 Okay.
00:22:47.100 Men and women have compete, conflicting sexual strategies.
00:22:51.660 Women want men to not know how valuable they are.
00:22:54.620 So they give up their leverage the rest of their lives and be loyal to them and give them
00:23:01.640 like the goal of women is to tame the alpha, right?
00:23:04.940 Let's say.
00:23:06.580 And the goal of men is to have, maybe have a wife, but bang hot women forever.
00:23:12.060 And before in the old days, it was a compromise, right?
00:23:16.260 They would meet in their hometown.
00:23:18.120 Maybe the families would get together.
00:23:20.740 A lot of time the woman would come with a dowry, right?
00:23:24.240 So they would actually be like, hey, son, this girl, my daughter's a hassle.
00:23:28.620 She's really annoying.
00:23:29.940 Here's some money to deal with her annoyingness forever.
00:23:33.640 Here you go.
00:23:36.180 And so before the women would say, you know what?
00:23:45.920 I really could do better than you.
00:23:47.680 I really could.
00:23:48.300 Like I'm pretty hot, but you're good enough and I'm going to settle and we're going to
00:23:53.780 make a deal here.
00:23:54.620 This is going to be a compromise for both of us.
00:23:56.940 And the man would say, look, I could bang some hot chicks.
00:24:01.520 I could.
00:24:01.980 I could bang Stacey and Teresa over there.
00:24:06.380 But you know what?
00:24:08.660 I'm going to compromise here and we're going to get together.
00:24:12.680 And he's like, you know what?
00:24:14.120 You didn't have sex with anybody else.
00:24:16.220 Or if you did lie, I'm sure women have always lied.
00:24:18.560 If you had a hoe phase, you ended it at like 20.
00:24:24.160 So let's compromise here.
00:24:26.860 You can give me like 10 kids.
00:24:28.880 A lot of times they'd work on the farm.
00:24:30.960 You know, but now what happens is the women have completely foregoed, foregone their side
00:24:39.040 of the mating strategy.
00:24:45.380 The women have foregone.
00:24:48.220 They have said, you know what?
00:24:49.720 We're not going to bring youth.
00:24:51.100 We're not going to bring purity to the table.
00:24:53.280 But I still demand a traditional marriage.
00:24:57.840 I still demand to stay home.
00:25:00.740 I still demand to be a stay-at-home mother to like one kid.
00:25:05.660 It's like one kid.
00:25:06.480 You can't get a part-time job.
00:25:08.040 You know what I mean?
00:25:08.620 That's it.
00:25:08.920 So I think in my old content, I maybe, I wish I differentiated more.
00:25:20.680 When I said should, my, what I was trying to say is in the old days when it was a fair
00:25:28.460 deal for men, women used to bring purity and youth.
00:25:32.740 That's the original marriage contract.
00:25:35.120 But now women are not bringing purity.
00:25:37.900 And not only, at least women used to be able to lie about purity.
00:25:42.520 Now there's like a digital footprint on the internet.
00:25:44.920 I mean, Sophia Reign is saying she's a virgin.
00:25:47.580 I could even add that.
00:25:48.720 What percent of these virgins have OnlyFans, right?
00:25:52.200 All right.
00:25:55.300 So this is not meant to discourage women that wish to do that.
00:26:03.300 And the comment, the comment really grinded my gears a little bit because I was
00:26:07.880 like, it said, Pearl, you're jealous.
00:26:13.080 And I think I could see that, right?
00:26:17.660 But virgins aren't really the ones that are stealing the men.
00:26:21.220 I got to be honest here.
00:26:22.480 They're not.
00:26:23.520 Most virgin women don't have crazy outcomes.
00:26:26.820 Like usually they're with kind of dorky guys that most women don't want to be with.
00:26:31.340 Now, I'm kind of a dork too.
00:26:33.580 This is not to hate on the dorks, right?
00:26:36.460 But it's kind of to say it is what it is.
00:26:39.000 That's not who women in mass are picking, right?
00:26:43.360 It's more the chads that women are going for.
00:26:46.180 Um, so what we used to have was marriage the way it was, was originally supposed to be an
00:26:58.000 equal exchange somewhat because women are not bringing purity and youth to the table.
00:27:06.180 Women, we have to offer six month free trials.
00:27:09.320 Now, because women don't, you know, the purity and the youth isn't brought to the table.
00:27:15.280 The women are like, look, I guess I'm going to have to be a nice person and offer a six
00:27:19.880 month free trial and hope he stays.
00:27:21.740 That's 2025, baby.
00:27:25.000 Enjoy the decline.
00:27:28.660 Um, sex used to be the primary way, um, a woman reciprocated effort in dating, um, and
00:27:34.400 courting with a man.
00:27:36.500 And so what we have now is the mystery method says, you know, men used to date for three
00:27:45.080 months and then commit to women forever.
00:27:48.100 And to be honest, fellas, I don't think you should envy the men of the past.
00:27:52.560 I mean, this was kind of a terrible deal in a way for you guys.
00:27:56.180 I actually think you guys in a way have it better because before you would, you could be
00:28:02.260 saddled with a bitch and you had to stay with her.
00:28:06.020 Um, now you can try a six month free trial, see how she is.
00:28:11.420 She'll obviously switch up after marriage, but you know, maybe if you have a pretty good
00:28:15.400 vetting system, you can see if she's not right.
00:28:19.280 All right.
00:28:19.680 So the mystery method says you need to spend eight hours with a girl.
00:28:24.180 And I'm hearing reports from the field that it's taking less than that, like three hours
00:28:28.300 to smash.
00:28:29.020 So what used to be full on courting, dedicating for life in exchange for the poonanny, now
00:28:35.540 you can get three hours.
00:28:38.820 Do you know what I mean?
00:28:40.040 It's like, this is, this is the times.
00:28:43.500 Um, there is no guarantee if she says she was a virgin that that's even true.
00:28:48.700 Saving your virginity until your wedding night still runs the risk of the woman divorcing
00:28:53.860 you five to seven years later and you get to miss out on the best sex.
00:28:59.300 The pre-marriage, ask any married guy, was the sex better before marriage or after marriage?
00:29:07.560 And the church, the trad cons, they convinced the men, they're like, miss out on the best
00:29:12.640 sex ever.
00:29:13.660 Um, and taking your kids and half of what you have.
00:29:19.000 So what does a woman saving herself for marriage or even a guy taking a woman's virginity mean
00:29:25.460 anymore?
00:29:25.900 It really doesn't mean anything.
00:29:28.360 Now, this isn't what I want to be true, right?
00:29:32.120 This isn't what I wish to be true.
00:29:33.980 Um, but I've seen too many virgin wives take their men to the divorce cleaners or, um, I've
00:29:41.060 seen too many of the women I knew that lost their virginities.
00:29:43.980 I mean, and I'm going to divide into how women tend to lose their virginities and the typical,
00:29:52.260 um, the typical scenarios that I would see.
00:29:57.960 Um, but it doesn't mean as much now.
00:30:00.260 So I do think women should be virgins in the original marriage contract, but unfortunately
00:30:06.640 we don't have that anymore.
00:30:08.400 And the men are sitting on the menu, right?
00:30:10.960 And they're saying, okay, they're like ordering.
00:30:13.180 Imagine you're at a restaurant.
00:30:14.260 You're like, I want, um, okay, can I have a, an in shape woman?
00:30:18.300 And they're like, no, can I have a woman without debt?
00:30:22.500 And they're like, yeah, but it's going to cost you this much.
00:30:25.860 And they're like, oh, that's expensive.
00:30:27.520 I don't know if I can afford that.
00:30:28.560 And they're like, what, what virgins just, can I see the virgins you have on the menu?
00:30:32.800 And they come up and they're like, here's a virgin woman that's built her brand off of
00:30:36.800 being a virgin.
00:30:37.480 So she touts about it online and at church and uses it for clout.
00:30:41.440 And it's going to be a big deal when you guys get together and everyone's going to
00:30:44.280 know the status of her virginity.
00:30:45.980 And the guy's like, Ooh, I don't know about that.
00:30:49.300 And then the next one is like, here's a virgin, but she's fat.
00:30:52.620 And then he talks to her.
00:30:53.860 He's like, can you get on like a workout plan maybe?
00:30:56.140 And they're like, no.
00:30:58.100 And then they're like, okay.
00:30:59.380 And then you get the next virgin and it's a hot 18 year old.
00:31:02.380 And then, you know, the guy's like, oh, I'll take that one.
00:31:05.140 And maybe it's not too much.
00:31:06.480 Like she does lose her virginity to him.
00:31:08.500 And this was a common scenario I saw.
00:31:10.200 Maybe they'll date for a year.
00:31:12.060 But, you know, then the streets start calling and she gets invited to raves, hang out with
00:31:16.400 celebrities.
00:31:17.480 And guess who's getting left in the dust?
00:31:19.460 You are, fellas.
00:31:20.160 So you do get that virginity for a little bit.
00:31:23.340 And that's, that was a common scenario.
00:31:25.060 That's what I see with the seven pluses of virgin women.
00:31:28.300 Like when I was younger, they would, um, they would lose their virginity to a guy they would
00:31:34.580 date for a few years and they could have the marriage outcome with him, but then they would
00:31:39.480 get too much opportunity in college.
00:31:41.440 They'd say, see, uh, you know, it is what it is.
00:31:45.040 Um, uh, and this is, I think people get agitated with me because sometimes I switch back and
00:31:51.820 forth between what should be and what is.
00:31:54.500 And I've really tried to, to evolve my content to talk about what is and not what should be.
00:32:01.520 Because I realized talking about what should be is a waste of time.
00:32:04.900 Like women shouldn't vote, but who cares that we're always gonna like, well, that's going
00:32:09.840 to go away in my lifetime.
00:32:11.260 Yeah.
00:32:11.420 Okay.
00:32:11.740 I'm just kidding.
00:32:14.440 YouTube.
00:32:14.860 That was an example.
00:32:15.860 That was an example.
00:32:16.820 I don't mean it.
00:32:19.640 I don't mean it.
00:32:20.880 Keep my monetization, please, please.
00:32:23.640 God, you know, it's like, um, okay.
00:32:32.200 Um, and the virgin women, then the men order again and they get a virgin woman, but she's
00:32:37.960 28 and she's been finger blasted like 20 times.
00:32:42.040 And they're like, let me get this straight.
00:32:43.760 I have to wait for marriage for someone who got finger blasted by 20 guys or she blew
00:32:49.440 like two men.
00:32:51.040 Is this even a virgin?
00:32:52.640 And the waiter's like, no, no, no, no, no.
00:32:54.040 We're selling virginity.
00:32:56.140 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:32:57.440 That's a bird.
00:32:58.120 That counts.
00:32:59.200 Change the dictionary.
00:33:01.060 Change the dictionary definition.
00:33:03.060 Change it right now.
00:33:04.080 We need to sell this for 10 99, you know, and the men are like, that's not really right.
00:33:11.040 And then they'll order again.
00:33:14.760 Right.
00:33:14.880 And I'm just listing the virgins I've seen over the years.
00:33:17.880 Okay.
00:33:19.060 Um, then you get the virgin wife.
00:33:22.360 Um, but she's a bitch, right?
00:33:24.300 She's naggy.
00:33:25.300 She's, she's, you know, she's kind of used, kind of idiotic.
00:33:30.240 Right.
00:33:30.920 And I'm not.
00:33:31.920 And then occasionally, occasionally you do get a very nice, sweet, feminine, virgin
00:33:37.500 woman for now, for now, because that's until she gets into the wrong friend group.
00:33:46.340 She starts watching the wrong social media.
00:33:48.520 She gets invited to the wrong party cooked, cooked.
00:33:52.480 And what I, what I get irritated with is I get the men that married virgins.
00:33:57.980 I can't verify it.
00:34:00.240 Um, so they don't even know for sure, but they're over a certain age.
00:34:03.760 You know, the virgin women of yesterday, they are not the virgin women that today, I'm sorry.
00:34:08.660 They're not, they are not, they are not.
00:34:12.240 Um, so yeah, should women be virgins?
00:34:21.320 Yeah, but they're not.
00:34:22.960 And you have zero control over it.
00:34:25.440 So it is what it is.
00:34:27.620 It is what it is.
00:34:29.000 That's what's on the menu.
00:34:30.100 What's on the menu is whores.
00:34:31.700 And what keeps happening is we keep trying to, men keep trying to make whores.
00:34:36.900 Men keep trying to make, they, they keep attempting to make whores, which is women's like natural
00:34:45.820 state into the, men cannot compute.
00:34:50.920 They cannot compute with the fact that all women have the proclivity and to some extent
00:34:57.800 want to be whores.
00:34:59.540 Now, a woman may not do it because it's not in her best interest, right?
00:35:04.820 A woman might not do it because her reputation, she wants to keep intact.
00:35:10.240 That's a fair reason.
00:35:11.840 She knows that if she's too much of a whore, she won't get married, but that's all off the
00:35:17.040 table.
00:35:17.740 Women have only fans and are getting married.
00:35:20.160 Women are corn stars and they're getting married.
00:35:22.720 Women can be 50 and get married.
00:35:24.740 I mean, guys, that's gone.
00:35:32.580 That is gone.
00:35:35.060 So in the past, women had incentives to keep them virgins, but it wasn't like women didn't
00:35:41.800 want to be.
00:35:42.960 I mean, guys, women fought a hundred years of nagging.
00:35:47.740 They nagged men for a hundred years to be whores.
00:35:52.180 They could have nagged men.
00:35:53.460 They could have nagged men for anything.
00:35:55.140 It probably would have happened.
00:35:56.100 They could have said, men, we want world peace.
00:35:58.300 We want world peace.
00:35:59.620 Please give us world peace.
00:36:01.660 Please, please, I'm begging you.
00:36:03.480 I just, I just want, I just want the world to be peaceful.
00:36:07.120 No wars.
00:36:07.840 And I bet, I bet it would have happened.
00:36:09.820 But women said, men, I want to be able to have sex unprotected.
00:36:13.700 I want him to finish in me and I want to not get pregnant.
00:36:18.560 Please, we want this.
00:36:19.840 Please, oh, please, oh, please.
00:36:21.400 And the men were like, oh, fine.
00:36:23.500 Here's your birth control.
00:36:25.320 And then the women said, I can't be with this ugly guy.
00:36:28.520 I can't, I need a guy who makes me tingle.
00:36:31.920 I can't, I can't settle.
00:36:34.060 I could be fat and in debt, but I cannot settle.
00:36:37.700 And the men said, fine, you can divorce your husbands.
00:36:44.320 Just shut up.
00:36:47.160 Just shut up.
00:36:48.500 Please shut up.
00:36:51.900 And then the women, that wasn't enough.
00:36:53.980 The women said, please, can we abort our kids?
00:36:56.380 I don't want to have kids with this guy that's ugly.
00:36:58.700 I just don't.
00:36:59.400 I don't want to do it.
00:37:00.720 Please, oh, please, oh, please.
00:37:01.920 Let me have an abortion, please.
00:37:04.520 And the men said, really?
00:37:06.420 Really?
00:37:06.940 You guys want to kill your, you want to, you want to abort your children?
00:37:12.660 And the women, and the women said, yes, yes, please.
00:37:16.280 Please, oh, please, oh, please.
00:37:17.440 I'm begging you.
00:37:18.460 And the men said, oh, fine.
00:37:21.080 Three months.
00:37:21.880 We'll give you guys three months to abort your kids.
00:37:26.380 We'll give you three months.
00:37:31.480 And the women said, that is not enough.
00:37:34.320 That is not enough.
00:37:36.800 I want more time.
00:37:38.540 And the men said, really?
00:37:39.700 You can't figure out if you're pregnant in three months?
00:37:42.060 And the men are like, six.
00:37:43.100 Is that enough?
00:37:43.740 And the women said, no.
00:37:46.820 I want to wait till that kid is damn near born.
00:37:50.360 And the men were like, oh, my gosh.
00:37:52.320 You guys are crazy.
00:37:53.680 Fine.
00:37:54.400 Fine.
00:37:55.500 Fine.
00:37:55.980 Fine.
00:38:08.860 So, you know, it's easy to say shit, but all women have this inclination to some extent.
00:38:14.300 All women want to be with the guy she can be a whore for.
00:38:19.740 But unfortunately, conservative men, they shoot themselves in the foot.
00:38:23.540 That's why I say, in a way, the liberal men are less cucked than conservative men.
00:38:29.000 Because the conservative men, like, and I always bring up this example, but it's a perfect example.
00:38:34.920 It's a perfect example.
00:38:36.620 Who is more cucked, Steven Crowder or Destiny?
00:38:42.940 Crowder got robbed.
00:38:44.380 He got his reputation destroyed.
00:38:46.040 Not really because he's a nice person, but he got his reputation destroyed.
00:38:49.840 He got robbed.
00:38:50.920 He had a virgin trad wife.
00:38:53.800 But he was dumb enough to believe a 27-year-old.
00:38:57.180 Do you know what I mean?
00:38:57.760 No offense, Crowder.
00:38:59.420 We love you.
00:39:00.240 We love you, Crowder.
00:39:01.320 I was on your team in this awful divorce.
00:39:04.060 But, in a way, you cucked yourself, right?
00:39:08.760 Where Destiny, Destiny comes in and said, do you know what?
00:39:12.240 My wife is a whore.
00:39:13.640 She's going to go be a whore.
00:39:15.340 I'm going to enjoy this relationship while it lasts.
00:39:18.160 And I'm going to go be a whore, too.
00:39:20.220 I'd put him higher.
00:39:22.000 Everyone calls Destiny a cuck.
00:39:24.480 But I would argue that Crowder was more cucked in that situation.
00:39:28.960 I would argue it.
00:39:29.840 I would die on the hill.
00:39:31.100 So, yeah.
00:39:35.000 So, I don't know.
00:39:36.040 Am I contradicting myself here?
00:39:38.600 I don't think I'm contradicting myself by saying women should, should be virgins on their wedding nights.
00:39:46.500 But we're not.
00:39:47.800 But, and so, what happens is usually the women that actually are virgins until marriage are either lying, bitchy, naggy, or there's something seriously wrong with them.
00:40:02.880 That's been my, or they get so much clout and they take so much status off of being a virgin that they get these big egos and it's game over, too.
00:40:13.880 So, because remember, virginity.
00:40:17.040 We got to get rid of this idea that somehow virgin women are somehow more moral people.
00:40:23.500 Now, maybe you could argue they're more moral than, say, the OnlyFans models.
00:40:28.420 But just because you're a virgin, all a virgin is doing is not doing.
00:40:33.840 And the men, too.
00:40:34.640 The men do this, too.
00:40:35.400 They signal purity or like they're good people because they don't sleep around.
00:40:40.580 But it's like you're just not doing something that's not being kind, it's not being considerate, it's not being helpful.
00:40:47.640 All it is is just not partaking.
00:40:51.640 You know, I'll give you an example, okay?
00:40:55.320 I, I'm trying to think of some of my worst traits here.
00:41:01.000 I don't know how much I want to tell on myself today.
00:41:05.400 I can be a bit anxious, you know, as a person.
00:41:10.020 I'm kind of fidgety, you know, I talk too much.
00:41:13.080 I'm not always considerate when, um, there's just times in my life where I wish, I wish I was a better person, right?
00:41:21.380 But I've never done drugs.
00:41:24.200 I've never done, I could get too emotional.
00:41:27.040 I get, I'm an emotional person, so sometimes that gets me in trouble.
00:41:31.520 But I've never done drugs.
00:41:32.900 I've never done, I've never done Molly, Percocet, any, any drug.
00:41:37.860 I, I mean, I don't really think, I guess weed, I don't know if I should be admitting that on the internet, but like once or twice, but I've never really been into that either, right?
00:41:47.820 Damn it, I said it on camera.
00:41:49.440 It's too late.
00:41:50.180 You know, it is what it is.
00:41:51.180 But, but do you guys see what I'm saying?
00:41:55.680 Like, I am not more, I'm impatient.
00:41:59.060 Actually, that's probably my worst trait.
00:42:01.380 I am not a patient person.
00:42:03.440 I'm not.
00:42:04.420 Oh, and I get so annoyed when things take forever.
00:42:06.920 It, it, it, on one end, it's fueled me because I think it's actually driven me to like achieve things because I get so annoyed that things aren't happening that I just keep trying to make it happen.
00:42:17.800 But at the same time, I just, the slow and steady wins the race thing.
00:42:23.180 I, you know what, when I've ever gotten good at something, it's been, I got obsessed with this for a year and I got good at it.
00:42:29.020 That's how I get good at things.
00:42:30.220 Um, but I'm also kind of like, I can be fooled easily.
00:42:37.460 Um, so, you know, like, I just think, um, I think I could, I could see myself getting put into like a, a cult or something.
00:42:48.180 I could just see it working on me.
00:42:51.060 Or I don't know.
00:42:52.020 I don't know.
00:42:52.320 Maybe I, whatever.
00:42:53.380 It doesn't matter.
00:42:54.120 But it doesn't make me a better person or more moral.
00:42:57.980 It just means I don't do drugs.
00:43:00.220 Do you know what I mean?
00:43:00.980 Now there are some bad habits that you might pick up if you're a druggie, right?
00:43:06.360 The same way there are some terrible habits you'll probably pick up if you're too much of a whore.
00:43:11.380 But too often women rely on like having a low body count or virginity as a way to signal virtue.
00:43:18.620 And it's really just not doing something that nobody really should know about anyways.
00:43:24.240 Like, I don't know why we're talking about it.
00:43:26.920 Now, this is not me saying to be a whore.
00:43:30.220 And to be honest, guys, I just don't really see virgins taking the men that women want.
00:43:36.360 So I know you're saying this is like a, a Pearl's like jealous or whatever.
00:43:42.400 I think I'm more jealous of Bonnie Blue, to be honest.
00:43:47.460 I mean, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to take a thousand, you know, that's a lot.
00:43:51.580 But, you know, I mean, that chick, I mean, hell, she's, she's living in like a penthouse in London and all she's got to do is have sex.
00:44:03.860 So I'm like, that's pretty, I mean, I personally, I could never be comfortable with that.
00:44:09.480 But it's a joke.
00:44:12.880 Please don't take that too seriously.
00:44:14.560 All right.
00:44:14.920 So the challenge is the virgin women today have way more power and options than the virgin women of yesterday.
00:44:23.360 So we cannot reasonably expect them to make the same choices as the virgin women of yesterday.
00:44:30.480 We literally can't.
00:44:32.260 Because before it was like you're excommunicated from your community.
00:44:37.140 You could never like, you could really, you're going to be looked at like a prostitute.
00:44:41.360 I mean, I'm just, I'm speculating here.
00:44:45.160 We're now, I mean, women can make a divorce brand.
00:44:49.800 Women can literally make money and build an online following of divorce.
00:44:59.920 Now, the next comment I got was that virgins can pair bond and non-virgins cannot.
00:45:07.300 Now, I have to look back at my, my personal experience.
00:45:16.100 Now, you have to understand that I do have a lot of enemies and I try to, I try to be respectful in what I share.
00:45:25.100 But while I would say for me, that was a very bonding experience.
00:45:31.220 I cannot say that was the majority of what I saw with women when I was younger.
00:45:38.620 In fact, I was shocked by how little it meant to women when I was younger.
00:45:46.100 I was actually shocked.
00:45:49.140 And I'm going to change these stories a little bit.
00:45:52.580 Not that I knew would, any of you would know who I'm talking about.
00:45:55.740 But I'm going to list some ways that I knew women lost it and what happened.
00:46:02.100 There was one woman I know.
00:46:04.620 I mean, she lost it at a party to a guy she never saw again and she did not care.
00:46:09.080 She just kind of wanted to get it over with so she could join in on the fun.
00:46:13.400 Another woman I know, she did lose it to a Chad and she did like that Chad for like a year.
00:46:19.520 Then she banged like 20 dudes, met her husband.
00:46:22.620 He was number 20.
00:46:23.440 She got out of the game at like 22, married, kids.
00:46:28.640 Another woman I knew had a high school boyfriend, lost her virginity to.
00:46:33.200 And I remember her explicitly telling me she didn't really understand why women were so attached, right?
00:46:38.380 She was like, I mean, I just dumped him when I went to college.
00:46:41.560 I didn't really care.
00:46:42.880 Or I dumped him for this next guy.
00:46:44.680 It didn't really matter to me.
00:46:48.400 And this was a common theme.
00:46:50.280 I mean, a lot of women I saw, they didn't really care.
00:46:52.620 Now, what I saw, the patterns, actually kind of, it was more based on women's looks level.
00:47:00.760 Hot women didn't care as much because they had more choice.
00:47:06.480 Midwomen tended to care more.
00:47:08.620 But not all, and I can, even as I'm saying this, I'm still thinking of women that I knew that definitely contradicted this.
00:47:19.980 But still, still, I would say broad brush strokes, right?
00:47:24.720 So, the virgins of today are not the virgins of yesterday because the virgins of yesterday did not have access to social media.
00:47:36.720 The reason I'm saying this, it's not to be a downer.
00:47:39.840 I'm not saying that the world should be this way.
00:47:44.040 But if virginity was so bonding, women would stay with the men they lost their virginities to.
00:47:51.740 And what I see more often is from the women with the most choice, a starter high school boyfriend, slut phase in college, starter college boyfriend, graduate, city boyfriend.
00:48:04.980 At one point, the women opt out, how early, how slutty do they get in each phase?
00:48:10.680 It depends.
00:48:16.060 But the reason I'm saying this is not to be a downer.
00:48:24.940 But I want to remind you that just because she's a virgin, it doesn't mean she's not going to ruin your life.
00:48:32.780 It doesn't mean, you know, if you want to take it as jealousy, that's totally fine.
00:48:41.060 I really, you know, I have a lot of negative traits.
00:48:44.020 I do.
00:48:44.780 I'm not going to pretend.
00:48:46.000 I'm not going to be holier than thou here and pretend.
00:48:48.420 I'm like a saint.
00:48:49.180 I'm not.
00:48:50.660 But do you know what?
00:48:52.680 It's interesting because a lot of the adjectives that are negative that I get, I get called online.
00:48:58.060 I would not say describe me.
00:49:02.520 I'm really not a jealous person.
00:49:04.300 They say I'm a bitter person.
00:49:06.860 I'm usually in a pretty good mood.
00:49:08.740 You know what I mean?
00:49:10.080 But there are negative adjectives that I would agree.
00:49:14.700 You know, they used to say you don't have enough life experience.
00:49:17.200 And I would say that was true.
00:49:19.020 I think when I started, I wish I had more life experience because some of the takes I had just weren't the best.
00:49:24.500 But they get better every year.
00:49:26.040 So that's all I can give you.
00:49:28.500 You know, I would say I was maybe too moralistic to start.
00:49:33.780 I wish I didn't do that.
00:49:34.880 But, you know, it is what it is.
00:49:36.540 I got to keep going.
00:49:39.860 But the virgins I've met today, I would say in general, they're either not that attractive.
00:49:44.660 They have huge ego, zero relationship skills.
00:49:47.040 And I want to stress, if they're over a certain age and have not lost their virginity, it's really not because of morals, but generally because they are either very unattractive in some way, grossly overrank themselves, or just don't have access to the type of men they want.
00:50:01.620 And the mids suffer the most that try to hold out because you really, as a mid, you've got to lower your price.
00:50:11.020 And these churches, telling a mid to wait till marriage is like the worst advice you could give a mid.
00:50:17.120 You can give a beautiful woman that advice, but a mid, yeah, right.
00:50:21.080 Men are not waiting for a mid, I'll tell you that.
00:50:25.040 You know what I mean?
00:50:26.120 They're just not.
00:50:26.940 I mean, maybe you could do an age gap and you could shoot for it.
00:50:30.980 But if you want men your age, I don't see that working.
00:50:33.940 I don't.
00:50:36.660 All right.
00:50:37.320 So stories I've heard from men of men that have taken women's virginities.
00:50:43.240 One, he took her virginity.
00:50:44.980 She became a flight attendant, got a tattoo, and didn't really care after.
00:50:51.120 Usually hot women have a starter boyfriend that they leave.
00:50:54.160 Mid women tend to lose it to a chad, either in a situationship or a one-night stand.
00:51:00.000 Some of the mids care, some don't.
00:51:03.040 Maybe it depends on the chad.
00:51:06.020 Do men with choice choose virgins?
00:51:09.000 Yes, men with choice do want virgins, but they do not want virgins more than they value their freedom and ability to bang multiple women.
00:51:17.260 So a lot of the guys with choice really are not going to wait until marriage because they've really, once they've taken a few girls' virginities, they don't really think it's this, like, great thing that they thought it was because some of the women were bitches after.
00:51:33.380 And they kind of, it puts it into perspective.
00:51:35.100 They're like, oh, my gosh, what if I committed the rest of my life to this woman and she flipped a switch?
00:51:41.060 Which, you know, chads take a lot of women's virginities, and chads aren't going to stay with you just because you're a virgin.
00:51:51.100 If you're a bitch, they'll dump you and leave you.
00:51:53.500 I would argue that religious women are also more likely to call you abusive on the way out because they're more concerned with the reputation of the liberal women.
00:52:01.360 Now, I do want to, I don't want to give the virgins too much smoke.
00:52:07.560 Obviously, the pros is that women are more able to bond the less partners they've had.
00:52:17.140 But, and that is true.
00:52:19.740 However, the virgins of today, the virgins of yesterday did not have social media.
00:52:27.000 They didn't.
00:52:28.760 So that's my monologue.
00:52:30.120 We're going to do a call-in.
00:52:33.800 And we're going to put Doug MPA on the line in a second.
00:52:39.280 But I've got to put this invite link.
00:52:42.320 Invite guest.
00:52:43.980 I'll copy this.
00:52:46.520 And then I'm going to put it in the chat and on Twitter.
00:52:50.420 Give me a second.
00:52:51.600 Am I cooking or am I not cooking?
00:52:53.460 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:52:54.680 I could be wrong.
00:52:55.500 But the question is, what?
00:53:03.040 I missed the naive, innocent pearl a few years ago.
00:53:06.420 It's been fun watching.
00:53:08.020 Yeah, it's gone.
00:53:09.800 This is why men like younger women because now I'm the annoying one.
00:53:13.640 I have to be the annoying one being like, yeah, that's not real.
00:53:18.200 Even the men, they want to be lied to, too.
00:53:23.840 Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know, when I started, yeah, I was, I was very naive.
00:53:30.240 I was very naive.
00:53:33.940 I was, I was, I was, I was.
00:53:35.740 Hold on.
00:53:36.180 I've got to log in.
00:53:40.140 So, yeah.
00:53:42.400 Damn it.
00:53:43.120 I did not.
00:53:44.220 I'm going to do this on my phone.
00:53:46.040 I know this is kind of annoying, but I forgot my password.
00:53:50.040 So, I've got to, I've got to.
00:53:51.800 So, I want to know you guys' experience.
00:53:54.660 So, I want to know, have you guys banged virgins?
00:53:58.800 What was your experience with it?
00:54:02.240 I want to know if you think I'm wrong.
00:54:04.900 If I'm, am I contradicting myself?
00:54:07.780 Maybe I am.
00:54:09.220 I'm open to, you know, I'll take the smoke.
00:54:11.720 It's fine.
00:54:13.680 Gabrielle says, so guys shouldn't wait.
00:54:16.260 That would be stupid in 2025.
00:54:18.680 I mean, you can wait.
00:54:20.540 I mean, and I'm not here to tell men how to live.
00:54:22.720 I'm really, really not.
00:54:25.180 But you can do whatever you want.
00:54:27.720 And if you think I'm full of shit, you know.
00:54:29.800 But you're taking an already unfavorable deal.
00:54:33.280 I wouldn't recommend it.
00:54:34.580 I would not.
00:54:35.240 Like, because you're basically, the only leverage you have as a man.
00:54:39.520 Because you can't be in a traditional marriage in 2025.
00:54:43.160 It doesn't exist.
00:54:44.020 Anybody that says they are, it's cosplay.
00:54:46.060 It's literally cosplay.
00:54:47.420 Because in order to be in a traditional marriage, you have to be able to enforce.
00:54:54.960 You have to be able to lay that, like, you know, imagine if we had a police officer, right?
00:55:00.340 And when I interact with a cop, I have to submit, right?
00:55:03.700 I have to say, yes, sir.
00:55:05.300 No, sir.
00:55:06.060 I always, like, when they're coming up, I put my hands on the wheels to know I don't have anything.
00:55:10.700 You know, I make them feel comfortable, whatever.
00:55:13.480 If they arrest me, I go.
00:55:16.020 And the reason I go is because I know they have the power to ruin my life.
00:55:21.020 But if you marry a woman, you're automatically giving her more power to ruin your life.
00:55:26.580 The only leverage you have is women hate being cheated on.
00:55:30.300 So if women know that you're going to cheat if you treat her bad, that's enforcement.
00:55:35.660 It's not, you know, you might say it's immoral.
00:55:37.280 But it's immoral to steal the kids, right?
00:55:42.880 Making her work for a ring and saying, I'm not going to marry you if you don't do X, Y, and Z and behave.
00:55:49.300 Or at least I get, like, 10 years out of this.
00:55:52.060 Now, every man has to pick his own strategy.
00:55:55.000 But what the conservatives do is they tell men to give up.
00:55:59.960 They say you're immoral and you are wrong for giving up your leverage.
00:56:04.760 Because you need to, now basically, they tell men to be traditional when the women aren't traditional.
00:56:12.400 That's not on the menu.
00:56:13.840 You can't order that on the menu.
00:56:19.840 Yeah, so I sent this to the, to this is Shaw.
00:56:24.240 If he comes in, I'm going to let him in.
00:56:26.040 I'm in control of the mute now, by the way.
00:56:28.340 So I can, I can kick you guys, which is amazing, before I wasn't in control.
00:56:34.780 Doug MPA, what was, have you banged virgins?
00:56:38.480 How did it go?
00:56:40.100 Yeah, I have.
00:56:43.500 Surprisingly, a lot of Mormons.
00:56:45.860 A lot of Mormon girls.
00:56:46.620 I was that, the black dude that was, these poor Mormon girls grew up in a repressive religious household.
00:56:55.720 And their revenge was to sleep with a black dude.
00:56:58.740 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
00:57:02.840 That's always fun.
00:57:04.660 Wait, here we go.
00:57:06.500 I like this one.
00:57:08.160 Yeah, and so was your experience that they were super bonded?
00:57:11.460 Did, I, I would say, so would you, was your, how many virginities did you take, I guess, is my first question?
00:57:18.520 In my life, six.
00:57:21.480 Okay.
00:57:22.020 How many were bonded to you?
00:57:25.320 Five.
00:57:26.440 Oh, cool.
00:57:27.400 And what happened?
00:57:28.580 Why didn't you marry him?
00:57:29.820 What went wrong?
00:57:31.320 So I went through, my very first relationship in my life was five years.
00:57:37.620 Okay.
00:57:38.760 And then I moved off to college.
00:57:40.500 And after five years, I was like, yeah, I know.
00:57:44.240 So most, yeah, so that's what it was.
00:57:49.080 You know, I started running into these girls in my undergrad and that happened.
00:57:54.480 And I was like, nope, I spent five years in a relationship from my late teens to early 20s.
00:57:59.960 I'm not going to do that again.
00:58:01.400 But it's interesting because in a way, the women must not have, like, how do I put it?
00:58:06.020 Like, when men are in a relationship phase, virgins never pick them.
00:58:13.040 Do you know what I mean?
00:58:14.540 Say that one more time.
00:58:16.040 So women have a menu, right?
00:58:17.760 You know how men have a menu and women have a menu, that analogy?
00:58:21.260 Yes.
00:58:21.660 And women can order a man in a relationship phase, but we order the fun guy.
00:58:27.040 Yeah, 100% true.
00:58:28.280 And so it's like, if women really wanted to wait, why did you order the fun guy?
00:58:31.640 And also, you sleep with a virgin, right?
00:58:38.400 And she's bonded to you, but then you still have the risk.
00:58:43.340 It's a screwed up situation all the way around.
00:58:47.340 You don't want to wait till sex.
00:58:49.200 No, you don't want to wait till marriage to have sex because a man doesn't truly audit a woman for a relationship until after sex happens.
00:58:57.480 You don't want to.
00:59:00.220 Pearl, I'm going to put you this way.
00:59:01.900 Guys put up with all sorts of stuff until they get sex.
00:59:06.220 Then you sleep with the woman.
00:59:07.480 You're like, why is her voice so annoying?
00:59:09.100 Why is she nagging me all the time?
00:59:11.060 Why is she chew with her mouth open?
00:59:12.500 I'm serious.
00:59:13.520 Before sex.
00:59:14.640 And these guys were dumb enough to marry these women without having sex with them.
00:59:20.180 And then they're stuck with the woman after sex happens.
00:59:26.080 And so even if you're not married, you sleep with the girl, you bond with her,
00:59:30.400 but then you still have to run the risk.
00:59:33.160 She's going to change.
00:59:34.500 Your perception of her is going to change after you have sex with her.
00:59:38.560 Then her perception of you is going to change after you marry her.
00:59:42.660 Understand what I'm saying?
00:59:43.460 Yeah.
00:59:44.340 So they get married, they bang, and they're like, oh, shit, that was starfish sex.
00:59:52.000 There's no better sex than the sex before marriage because that's when women after are working for the ring.
00:59:57.560 You know what I mean?
00:59:58.240 How many guys in the chat never heard, I'm too tired or I have a headache until they got married?
01:00:06.720 Yeah.
01:00:07.760 Or actually, nowadays, you hear that after you move in with a woman.
01:00:12.800 You move in with a woman.
01:00:13.860 All of a sudden, I have a migraine.
01:00:15.480 I have a headache.
01:00:16.480 My job was too tough, and I'm too tired.
01:00:20.040 Yeah.
01:00:21.520 Cooked.
01:00:22.200 I'm going to bring Glenn up.
01:00:27.160 Glenn, how are you?
01:00:29.280 Yo, what's up, man?
01:00:31.200 No much, no much.
01:00:32.700 How are you living, you guys?
01:00:33.740 Doing good?
01:00:34.800 Good.
01:00:35.240 How are you?
01:00:36.520 I'm well.
01:00:37.200 I'm well.
01:00:37.800 Just busy working on this nonprofit.
01:00:40.680 Nice.
01:00:41.440 What's your experience with virgin women?
01:00:44.320 Now, it's been a long time because I have a rule because I don't, if you're a virgin at any age, I don't care.
01:00:50.920 I run away from you.
01:00:52.180 You're a problem.
01:00:53.620 Why?
01:00:55.720 Okay.
01:00:56.400 Because they become too clingy.
01:00:58.920 Like, you know, you're like, tell me, see, guys, don't tell them up from like, hey, this is just a thing.
01:01:03.680 We having a good time.
01:01:05.020 I'm not going to be your husband.
01:01:06.280 I'm not trying to be your husband.
01:01:07.640 But then after you give them the D, they think that you're their husband.
01:01:11.400 Yeah, but you've been married before.
01:01:13.300 I know.
01:01:14.160 So, but I'm saying like before.
01:01:15.900 He's like, I know.
01:01:16.660 But no, before you were in the market for marriage at one point.
01:01:21.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:22.220 So, like, what would be wrong with a clingy woman?
01:01:25.480 And that's, you know.
01:01:26.320 Because like what, what Doug said, now, now we realize we have, we're, we have, we now aware of all your annoyingness.
01:01:35.080 Like we tolerated it and we realize, you know, after the sex versus your irritation level that you guys give us, it's just not worth it.
01:01:45.260 It's just like, you know, no, no, no.
01:01:48.800 So, you know, and here's the thing, though, women, a bunch of women always say they're virgins.
01:01:55.520 Doug, you know how many women have probably told you that I've never done this before?
01:02:00.960 We have.
01:02:01.820 I think that I've never done this before is a lie.
01:02:07.020 It's a virgin conversation, though.
01:02:08.560 I mean, well, I've never, you've never had girls that said that they've never done this before.
01:02:14.180 Like, involving sex?
01:02:17.340 Yeah, but they never claim to be virgins.
01:02:20.000 A lot of women that say I've never done this before will say that about anything besides missionary sex.
01:02:26.640 You know what I'm saying?
01:02:29.060 Oh, yeah, you know, I've never, I've never swallowed before.
01:02:32.460 Or, you know, I've never taken it in the back door.
01:02:35.260 You know, I've never, yeah, I've heard them say that.
01:02:38.040 I wouldn't assume that a woman that says I've never done this before is a virgin.
01:02:41.660 I think it's still a strong kind of, a different kind of thing if a woman says I'm a virgin and she's not.
01:02:47.940 But, yes, I would agree that women do lie about being virgins, though.
01:02:52.580 So here's the thing.
01:02:53.120 I don't think virginity is that important.
01:02:54.940 I could care less about your virginity.
01:02:58.040 Because, one, I can never validate that, verify that, or, you know, fact checking.
01:03:02.540 That pussy does not come with a fact check.
01:03:05.780 There's no badge check that comes.
01:03:07.760 I can't get a report on that badge check, okay?
01:03:09.960 Since there's no badge check, you just want me to take your word for it.
01:03:15.840 Well, you know what?
01:03:17.040 Women lie, men lie, you know?
01:03:19.000 So I'm just going to assume that you have a past.
01:03:22.080 So with that being said, it's just like, I don't care if she's a virgin or not.
01:03:25.820 How does she treat you?
01:03:27.600 If she doesn't treat you right, if she doesn't treat you the way that you want your future wife to treat you,
01:03:33.380 then it's a pass, bro.
01:03:36.900 I have a question for Pearl and Glenn.
01:03:40.420 Do you think that...
01:03:42.720 Oh, I'm sorry.
01:03:43.100 Go ahead.
01:03:43.740 I want to welcome this is Shaw to the panel.
01:03:46.580 Hi, Pearl.
01:03:47.240 Thanks for having me again.
01:03:48.240 What's going on, Doug?
01:03:49.180 Good to see you, Glenn.
01:03:50.160 Hey, how you doing?
01:03:51.260 In a second, we'll have you go through the history.
01:03:54.180 You know, I've been trying to get a hold of you, Shaw.
01:03:56.220 Really?
01:03:57.220 But I wanted to...
01:03:58.000 Yeah, anytime.
01:03:58.680 Glenn, I like your stuff, man.
01:04:00.200 And you're able to pass on this question if you don't want it.
01:04:04.940 But have you banged virgin?
01:04:06.160 How was it?
01:04:08.500 No, not for me.
01:04:09.620 You know, I didn't start dating until a little later.
01:04:11.840 And the way I date now, to be honest, it's not really a concern for me.
01:04:16.180 I've not really cared.
01:04:18.900 Okay, cool.
01:04:20.940 Doug, MPO, what was the question?
01:04:25.600 Tradcon's trying to say that a woman saving herself until marriage
01:04:29.560 is supposed to be some kind of predictor of good behavior or virtue.
01:04:34.440 Like, do you think that there's any truth to that at all?
01:04:37.980 No.
01:04:38.260 I don't think so.
01:04:39.060 I really don't.
01:04:39.840 No, because do you know what?
01:04:41.460 Every time I've met a woman that's a virgin,
01:04:44.780 like 90% of the time she's a bitch who uses it to like...
01:04:49.300 No, no, okay.
01:04:50.720 Because if you're like, yeah, I'm a whore,
01:04:53.440 you kind of got to be nice.
01:04:54.600 But like, every time I meet...
01:05:00.520 Okay, I've met...
01:05:02.100 And the thing is, women that are virgins
01:05:04.280 and they want to wait until they're married,
01:05:05.860 I did know a girl in high school who did that.
01:05:08.820 And she actually was a sweetheart, but she was done by 21.
01:05:12.820 She was not...
01:05:13.680 If you're...
01:05:14.080 That's why I said over a certain age,
01:05:15.980 there's something wrong with you.
01:05:17.660 You're not about it.
01:05:18.620 Because the girls that are about it,
01:05:20.300 she went to school.
01:05:21.880 She went to like...
01:05:23.640 I'd have to...
01:05:24.340 I don't want to dox anybody.
01:05:25.880 So she went to a school that I'll just say her type was at.
01:05:29.400 It had all the STEM majors.
01:05:31.340 She was like, I am going to marry a doctor.
01:05:33.420 And she said it.
01:05:34.400 She went there.
01:05:35.320 She did it.
01:05:36.640 Housewife.
01:05:37.280 But she was done by 21.
01:05:39.060 That's why like when I meet them and they're like 24,
01:05:42.160 I'm like, I don't think you're about this.
01:05:45.320 Like, I just...
01:05:46.120 I don't think you're...
01:05:46.840 I don't think you mean that.
01:05:48.660 You know?
01:05:49.000 I think you just like the like clout.
01:05:51.360 Because in a lot of church communities,
01:05:52.800 they get clout for like telling everybody that.
01:05:55.580 It's like in the attention economy.
01:05:59.120 So I was hoping, Shaw,
01:06:01.060 you could go through maybe some of the history of marriage.
01:06:04.300 Because I was kind of curious,
01:06:05.940 what did men get in the past versus today?
01:06:09.720 Now, obviously, we can't verify the virginity stuff.
01:06:13.060 So I was more curious in terms of like dowry,
01:06:17.040 in terms of women staying,
01:06:19.200 like age, like what age women married at before,
01:06:22.460 like that sort of thing.
01:06:24.720 Yeah, sure.
01:06:25.400 I mean, it's definitely a lot,
01:06:26.880 but I'll condense as much as I can.
01:06:29.340 And you know what most people today are familiar with
01:06:31.880 goes back to about the 1950s.
01:06:33.880 That's what the Tradcons are selling.
01:06:35.980 And that's what they consider traditional marriage.
01:06:38.860 Prior to that was the dowry system,
01:06:40.820 which we discussed during our sit-down.
01:06:43.500 And that was actually here not too long ago.
01:06:46.520 I mean, it got abolished in France in the 1960s.
01:06:49.140 In Italy, it was in the 1970s.
01:06:51.520 In Greece and Spain, it was in the 1980s.
01:06:54.680 England was kind of the first to push it away.
01:06:57.000 And the U.S. after that was following it.
01:06:59.720 But in that system,
01:07:01.460 if a woman did not have a dowry,
01:07:04.560 she was not able to get married.
01:07:06.340 I have a newspaper clipping of the Pope handing out dowries.
01:07:10.820 In the 1800s, I believe.
01:07:13.420 And the women, it says in the newspaper clipping,
01:07:16.320 would now be able to obtain a husband
01:07:18.080 or have the money to join a convent.
01:07:20.320 Basically, it was up to them at that point.
01:07:22.760 So this dowry system was what marriage was in the West.
01:07:27.340 So not just in other places,
01:07:28.840 but in the West for a very long time.
01:07:30.600 All throughout Christian Europe.
01:07:33.320 Prior to that, in the Roman Empire.
01:07:36.740 And prior to that, in ancient Greece.
01:07:39.420 And it's actually kind of a big clue
01:07:41.020 because one of the other systems is bride price,
01:07:43.540 which you see in the Old Testament.
01:07:44.960 That's the Mohar.
01:07:46.740 But if you see an ancient society
01:07:48.680 and they're a dowry-paying society,
01:07:50.080 you can pretty much guess that they're a lot more advanced.
01:07:52.680 Because bride price societies are typically poorer.
01:07:55.760 So prior to dowry societies,
01:07:59.140 you had the bride price,
01:08:00.380 which is there was a set amount, a uniform amount.
01:08:04.120 It's not a bidding war.
01:08:05.620 There is a uniform amount
01:08:07.100 for how much someone is expected
01:08:09.200 to compensate her family.
01:08:11.460 Not her, but her family in order to marry her.
01:08:15.540 So going back prior to dowry,
01:08:17.840 we had bride price.
01:08:19.120 And nestled within all that is changes in family law.
01:08:24.680 Divorce and polygyny tend to be a little higher
01:08:27.340 with bride price-paying societies.
01:08:30.920 In early dowry societies,
01:08:32.860 that's where monogamy starts to come in.
01:08:35.660 But divorce was still really a civil matter.
01:08:38.600 There were ways to get divorced
01:08:39.980 and there was divorce laws around that.
01:08:42.320 Then as Christianity takes over
01:08:43.940 and it slowly changes in Europe,
01:08:46.660 it becomes no divorce.
01:08:48.320 So you only have annulments
01:08:49.500 and things like that going for almost 2,000 years
01:08:52.880 all the way up until industrialization
01:08:57.280 and things starting to change, basically.
01:09:00.220 And then you get the U.S.,
01:09:04.160 which as soon as the American Revolution happens,
01:09:06.260 they're already pushing back
01:09:07.280 against the Church of England
01:09:08.260 and say, we want divorce to be a thing we can do.
01:09:10.880 And then you start to see this system
01:09:12.320 of at-fault divorce being created
01:09:13.840 because they didn't have anything to fall back on
01:09:15.780 because for 2,000 years,
01:09:17.840 there was no divorce, just annulment.
01:09:19.840 Then you start to see marriage wrestled away
01:09:22.080 from the Church and put into the hands of the state.
01:09:24.840 And divorces used to happen in the state legislature.
01:09:28.500 And then it started being taken over by the civil courts
01:09:31.200 and they started coming up with cause,
01:09:32.960 which would have been adultery.
01:09:34.580 I think that's what it was in New York early on
01:09:36.580 and all these kinds of things.
01:09:37.820 Now, to relate this to virginity a little bit,
01:09:40.980 because I know that's what you're talking about,
01:09:43.200 the way these different systems of marriage come up
01:09:46.800 is really very much related to how property
01:09:51.100 is transmitted throughout society
01:09:53.960 and how the economy works.
01:09:56.860 In bride-price-paying societies,
01:09:58.840 this is a long time ago,
01:10:01.000 women contributed the major labor value to agriculture.
01:10:06.080 Okay, so the reason you paid the bride price
01:10:09.400 was because her family was losing her labor value
01:10:14.000 and you are giving them a uniform amount
01:10:16.100 because that's going to allow them
01:10:17.360 to procure another woman,
01:10:19.700 either for the guy who might have his second wife now
01:10:22.540 or one of the sons in the family
01:10:23.700 who might be getting his first wife.
01:10:25.480 And then this creates a circulating fund
01:10:27.640 and it goes around
01:10:29.280 and you got kind of an exchange there, okay?
01:10:32.460 And now she's working and her real income,
01:10:34.680 which is her labor on the farm
01:10:36.920 is contributing to the household wealth.
01:10:39.500 When the plow is invented,
01:10:40.940 because these poorer bride-price societies
01:10:42.940 used to use a hoe and digging stick,
01:10:45.600 I can even share my screen
01:10:46.740 and show you some sources if you like.
01:10:48.720 I don't want to complicate it,
01:10:49.540 but I do have them here pulled up.
01:10:51.740 Then what happens is,
01:10:52.840 is a lot more wealth starts to be generated
01:10:54.900 and you start to get rich families,
01:10:57.400 middle-class families, lower-class families.
01:11:00.220 And when that happens,
01:11:01.340 there's a lot more concern
01:11:02.480 about property transmission.
01:11:05.220 And what happens is,
01:11:06.460 you start to see the dowry system spring up.
01:11:09.260 Now, the value on virginity
01:11:10.680 and the amount of energy it takes
01:11:12.400 to keep a woman a virgin
01:11:13.600 starts to increase
01:11:15.320 as there's higher stakes for property
01:11:17.220 being transmitted throughout generations, okay?
01:11:20.080 So in a bride-price-paying society,
01:11:23.320 having to basically guard her
01:11:25.400 is less of an investment
01:11:26.580 because she's probably going to get married
01:11:27.860 around puberty, okay?
01:11:30.020 Now, when the dowry system comes in,
01:11:31.900 it pushes back marriage,
01:11:33.240 not to like what it is today
01:11:34.420 where people are getting married
01:11:35.420 at 28 or 30,
01:11:37.580 but to like, you know,
01:11:38.660 18 to like 20 or something like that
01:11:41.160 because it takes time
01:11:41.920 to set up the dowry
01:11:43.520 for her to get married.
01:11:45.680 And if you have a...
01:11:47.340 And so virginity matters
01:11:48.540 because the statuses
01:11:49.620 of the families are important.
01:11:51.000 But beyond that,
01:11:51.960 if she gets pregnant
01:11:52.840 by some guy
01:11:54.140 that's not on equal footing
01:11:55.240 with her family,
01:11:56.000 you now have a bastard
01:11:57.040 because you don't have
01:11:57.700 genetic tests back then.
01:11:59.300 This bastard
01:12:00.220 is going to have
01:12:01.440 higher trouble
01:12:02.200 of having any kind of
01:12:03.500 integration with society
01:12:04.480 because how are you going
01:12:04.940 to get this guy married?
01:12:06.060 We don't know who the dad is.
01:12:07.160 He doesn't have an inheritance
01:12:08.260 request coming to him.
01:12:09.980 We can't negotiate this now.
01:12:11.300 If it's a daughter,
01:12:12.440 we don't know.
01:12:13.000 There's not much contribution
01:12:14.380 for a dowry
01:12:15.120 except what her family
01:12:16.340 may already have to give her.
01:12:18.660 So guarding her virginity
01:12:19.960 matters a lot
01:12:20.680 because it's going to affect
01:12:21.700 property transmission
01:12:22.600 for this family.
01:12:23.880 So there's an incentive
01:12:24.680 to do that.
01:12:25.360 Now, I know this is me
01:12:26.980 probably distilling this
01:12:28.060 down to a lot of just
01:12:29.120 economic and property
01:12:30.160 and money kind of concerns.
01:12:33.900 Yes, yes.
01:12:34.480 But, you know,
01:12:34.960 and then there's
01:12:35.880 the spiritual aspect
01:12:36.920 of this.
01:12:37.460 Obviously, religion
01:12:37.960 plays a role,
01:12:38.860 but, you know,
01:12:39.640 typically religion helps us
01:12:40.740 through these changes
01:12:41.360 in our lives
01:12:42.020 and things like that.
01:12:43.120 And so that's kind
01:12:45.120 of where it goes, right?
01:12:46.340 Then we go to this
01:12:46.980 at-fault system
01:12:47.940 and at-fault is heavily
01:12:49.260 influenced by what's
01:12:50.140 called the love match.
01:12:51.580 Okay.
01:12:51.980 And as you see
01:12:52.540 the dowry system go away,
01:12:55.000 you start to see,
01:12:56.040 I mean, you start
01:12:57.440 to see media coming in,
01:12:58.740 you know,
01:12:58.940 the printing press
01:12:59.720 came in in the 1400s.
01:13:01.360 You started to see
01:13:02.340 tales of romantic chivalry
01:13:03.960 being printed
01:13:05.140 cheaper now than ever.
01:13:06.640 And then as this
01:13:07.520 started going on
01:13:08.540 and industrialization
01:13:10.040 and all these things
01:13:10.740 came in,
01:13:11.060 it changed women's
01:13:11.840 labor value
01:13:12.480 in terms of what
01:13:13.320 they can do.
01:13:15.360 Romantic stories
01:13:16.940 were really big.
01:13:18.460 It's becoming
01:13:19.100 part of the psyche.
01:13:19.900 But still in a lot
01:13:21.040 of places,
01:13:21.420 the dowry system
01:13:22.280 reigns supreme.
01:13:23.600 You know,
01:13:23.760 even in Germany,
01:13:24.420 we have data
01:13:25.300 from a city in Germany
01:13:27.280 where it was required
01:13:29.020 for both parties
01:13:30.800 to register
01:13:32.060 their assets
01:13:33.160 prior to the marriage.
01:13:35.740 And you can chart this out.
01:13:37.240 I have a paper on this too.
01:13:38.480 I can show you guys.
01:13:39.340 So how do you know
01:13:40.180 that was not just
01:13:41.400 in that specific city?
01:13:43.180 Like what percent
01:13:43.880 of people did this?
01:13:44.980 I'm just curious.
01:13:45.980 Oh,
01:13:46.320 because everybody did this
01:13:47.700 from top to bottom.
01:13:48.900 I have we have
01:13:50.800 so many sources on this.
01:13:52.180 It's not even funny.
01:13:53.260 I mean,
01:13:53.420 we have stuff
01:13:54.100 that's contemporaneous
01:13:55.040 with the times.
01:13:56.140 We have academic
01:13:56.840 writings about this.
01:13:58.920 So so we know
01:14:00.040 we do know exactly
01:14:01.200 how it worked
01:14:02.000 and we can point back
01:14:03.580 to it.
01:14:04.260 So look at a ton
01:14:05.140 of examples.
01:14:05.960 It was more in the day.
01:14:06.980 There was just way more
01:14:08.040 like the whole family
01:14:09.020 money was riding on this
01:14:10.560 on this girl
01:14:11.120 not being a whore.
01:14:12.820 Well,
01:14:13.080 yeah,
01:14:13.480 there was a lot of that
01:14:14.580 because I mean,
01:14:15.300 you know,
01:14:15.520 if if you ruin
01:14:17.060 your family status,
01:14:17.960 they might have
01:14:18.680 other siblings
01:14:19.320 they're trying
01:14:19.900 to get married.
01:14:20.820 I mean,
01:14:21.040 it would just complicate
01:14:21.860 a lot of things.
01:14:22.760 And then,
01:14:23.320 you know,
01:14:24.000 all of a sudden
01:14:24.480 she's at the tavern
01:14:25.440 one night
01:14:25.960 and we don't know
01:14:26.560 who gave it to her
01:14:27.520 and we can't prove that.
01:14:28.900 And then you got,
01:14:29.560 you know,
01:14:29.700 these mouths to feed
01:14:30.540 over here.
01:14:31.460 We don't know
01:14:32.100 who it is
01:14:32.780 and all this kind
01:14:34.160 of stuff.
01:14:34.740 And then,
01:14:35.160 you know,
01:14:36.460 as we come closer,
01:14:37.320 because the question
01:14:37.880 is,
01:14:38.160 is marriage worth it?
01:14:40.600 Especially from trad
01:14:41.560 or like that,
01:14:42.360 you know,
01:14:42.540 you'll ask,
01:14:43.460 you'll say,
01:14:44.120 Peral,
01:14:44.300 you'll say marriage
01:14:44.880 is a bad deal for men,
01:14:45.760 which I 100% agree with,
01:14:48.000 especially the way
01:14:48.780 that we do it today
01:14:50.420 and the trad cons
01:14:51.380 will come and try
01:14:52.600 to argue with you
01:14:53.420 about that.
01:14:53.860 But we can provably show
01:14:55.260 that marriage
01:14:56.460 is a bad deal for men
01:14:57.440 because there is
01:14:58.080 so much literature.
01:15:00.320 I got newspaper clippings,
01:15:01.720 I got academic journals
01:15:02.680 that show that people
01:15:03.700 who got married,
01:15:05.500 their wealth levels
01:15:07.040 tended to match.
01:15:08.480 And that's how
01:15:08.940 it was arranged.
01:15:10.000 So the woman
01:15:10.780 always came
01:15:12.180 with this property.
01:15:13.100 In a lot of places,
01:15:14.420 the dowry was
01:15:15.180 a whole house.
01:15:16.420 I mean,
01:15:16.600 in Italy,
01:15:17.240 in England,
01:15:18.060 there's a...
01:15:18.560 So not only
01:15:19.340 do you not get a house,
01:15:20.560 you have to take a girl
01:15:21.540 with a bad credit score.
01:15:24.140 Yeah,
01:15:24.780 student loan debt.
01:15:26.180 And you don't even
01:15:26.960 get the free trial.
01:15:30.680 Hey,
01:15:31.080 Sha,
01:15:31.520 I wanted to ask you
01:15:33.060 about the current
01:15:34.200 situation in China.
01:15:35.840 Sure.
01:15:37.060 How there's...
01:15:38.880 So in rural China,
01:15:39.820 there's like 19 million
01:15:41.220 more men than women.
01:15:43.220 And first off,
01:15:44.100 remember Pearl,
01:15:44.680 how you always say
01:15:45.320 that like rural women
01:15:47.140 will move to the cities.
01:15:48.980 A lot of these women
01:15:50.380 want to move to the cities.
01:15:52.700 And to forego that,
01:15:55.140 they're charging rural men
01:15:56.620 absorbent amounts of money
01:15:58.360 on average like $19,000
01:15:59.700 to $20,000.
01:16:01.000 So they'll charge
01:16:02.620 city men cheaper
01:16:04.260 because then if they get
01:16:04.980 to marry in the city
01:16:06.000 where the schools
01:16:06.640 are better and stuff.
01:16:08.220 So the...
01:16:08.700 they're not expected
01:16:10.800 to be versions
01:16:11.600 or anything like that.
01:16:12.600 It's just out of sheer
01:16:13.920 availability.
01:16:15.260 And they're trying
01:16:15.800 to push the government
01:16:16.780 to abolish this whole
01:16:18.740 bride price thing
01:16:19.520 because in certain areas
01:16:20.680 of China,
01:16:21.100 it's gotten out of control.
01:16:23.640 Yeah,
01:16:24.100 China's an interesting place
01:16:25.280 historically
01:16:25.820 because it's such
01:16:26.920 a big place.
01:16:27.560 I mean,
01:16:27.700 you've seen bride price
01:16:28.820 and you've seen dowry
01:16:29.900 systems occur there.
01:16:31.760 Typically for rural areas,
01:16:33.320 you would see more
01:16:34.040 of a bride price system.
01:16:35.220 And then in certain places
01:16:36.760 where in the cities
01:16:37.520 where there's more
01:16:38.040 urbanization
01:16:38.720 and class differentiation,
01:16:40.120 you would see dowry systems.
01:16:43.340 They're in some trouble there
01:16:44.920 because, you know,
01:16:45.480 they had communism
01:16:46.140 for a bit
01:16:46.700 and with communism coming in,
01:16:48.600 that got rid of a need
01:16:50.200 for a lot of bride,
01:16:51.840 like these kinds of concerns
01:16:53.040 because it's suddenly
01:16:54.260 government daddy now
01:16:55.320 and it's just,
01:16:55.860 it's completely different.
01:16:57.540 You can argue
01:16:58.280 our robust welfare system
01:16:59.800 over here
01:17:00.200 has caused a lot of problems.
01:17:01.440 Maybe we can talk
01:17:01.820 about that later.
01:17:02.420 Oh yeah, boy.
01:17:03.060 But then they had
01:17:03.760 their one child policy
01:17:05.020 and all that,
01:17:06.220 which really skewed
01:17:07.180 the population numbers
01:17:08.540 a lot, you know.
01:17:10.980 And even in the past,
01:17:13.420 you know,
01:17:13.920 I read something,
01:17:14.520 I was reading this book
01:17:15.640 from like 100 years ago.
01:17:17.300 This isn't just in China,
01:17:18.300 but this is also in England
01:17:19.400 and they were looking
01:17:20.060 at England and India.
01:17:22.520 There was less men
01:17:24.020 and there was more women
01:17:25.240 because,
01:17:26.520 not only because of wars
01:17:27.700 and things like that,
01:17:28.320 but also because
01:17:28.960 a baby that's a male's head
01:17:31.680 is a little bit bigger
01:17:32.620 than a girl's.
01:17:34.200 So there was a lot more
01:17:35.320 infant, you know,
01:17:37.720 infant mortality with boys.
01:17:39.480 So this would affect
01:17:40.060 the numbers,
01:17:40.840 especially going through
01:17:42.340 industrialization
01:17:43.160 and these kinds of things.
01:17:44.040 But that's an interesting aside.
01:17:45.220 So what they're dealing
01:17:46.340 with over there,
01:17:47.080 and I've seen some
01:17:47.760 of those videos.
01:17:48.580 I don't know how many
01:17:49.040 of them are true
01:17:49.560 because they're all translated,
01:17:50.640 but I believe them
01:17:51.400 for the most part
01:17:52.620 where a lot of guys
01:17:53.360 are having trouble.
01:17:54.080 They're either having to leave
01:17:54.880 or get brides
01:17:55.420 from somewhere else.
01:17:56.440 But then there's also
01:17:57.300 a lot of leftover women
01:17:58.480 who want so much
01:18:00.900 that they don't get married
01:18:02.820 and that's becoming
01:18:04.100 a phenomena over there too
01:18:05.660 to where it would be,
01:18:07.540 especially if they're living
01:18:08.620 in the city
01:18:09.320 and it's about status,
01:18:12.200 it's about trying
01:18:12.880 to secure a husband
01:18:15.380 that's going to,
01:18:16.660 you know,
01:18:16.800 have a higher income,
01:18:17.540 then they need a dowry system
01:18:18.860 to do that for her.
01:18:20.860 And that's the only way,
01:18:21.600 you know,
01:18:21.820 like there's all these issues
01:18:22.980 because the government
01:18:23.760 has come in
01:18:24.900 and made all these changes.
01:18:26.000 Even Thailand's
01:18:26.780 another interesting example
01:18:27.980 in that they paid
01:18:31.400 the bride price over there,
01:18:32.520 but they were
01:18:32.980 technically polygynous.
01:18:34.160 It was not illegal
01:18:34.780 for a guy to marry
01:18:35.760 a second woman
01:18:36.520 until the 1930s
01:18:37.800 when the king just said,
01:18:39.300 we're not doing this anymore,
01:18:40.120 we're doing monogamy.
01:18:41.080 But they never changed
01:18:42.080 from bride price to dowry,
01:18:43.320 so it's kind of,
01:18:44.480 you know,
01:18:44.720 this weird thing.
01:18:45.980 So there's been a lot
01:18:46.660 of like people
01:18:47.280 coming in here
01:18:48.700 and messing up the systems
01:18:49.660 for what they used to be,
01:18:51.380 basically.
01:18:52.440 Wouldn't you say
01:18:52.840 there's a biggest problem
01:18:53.820 in this is that...
01:18:54.700 Hold on, hold on.
01:18:55.460 I'm going to read
01:18:56.660 Super Chats
01:18:57.340 for one second
01:18:58.060 and then we'll welcome
01:18:58.720 Sean to the panel.
01:19:00.300 So Caesar says,
01:19:01.720 this is Shaw,
01:19:02.340 always has something
01:19:03.020 interesting to say.
01:19:04.700 Yes, he does.
01:19:06.000 Thank you, Caesar.
01:19:07.200 Doug, I didn't know
01:19:08.140 you were such a Tyrone.
01:19:09.440 I'm not angry,
01:19:10.320 just disappointed.
01:19:12.820 You should be proud.
01:19:14.280 What do you mean, guys?
01:19:16.080 Dave, thank you
01:19:16.960 for the cat,
01:19:18.700 super chat.
01:19:19.860 Soveria,
01:19:20.620 low body count is loyal,
01:19:21.940 they said.
01:19:22.340 Get her early,
01:19:22.980 they said.
01:19:23.580 Let's ask MXR Henry
01:19:25.620 how Jeannie turned out
01:19:26.880 after 10 plus years
01:19:28.060 of success,
01:19:29.180 100K a month income.
01:19:32.200 Yeah, okay.
01:19:33.640 So again,
01:19:34.600 my point is not,
01:19:37.200 and maybe they're saying
01:19:38.140 I'm contradicting myself,
01:19:39.700 but the original deal
01:19:41.700 I thought was
01:19:42.640 men got virgins,
01:19:43.720 so I guess that's
01:19:44.440 what it should be,
01:19:45.800 but that's not what it is,
01:19:46.880 and I just don't see
01:19:47.740 virgins sticking around today,
01:19:49.640 even the ones today.
01:19:51.280 It just seems like
01:19:52.060 there's something off.
01:19:53.500 But Sean,
01:19:54.200 let me know what you think
01:19:55.140 on the topic.
01:19:56.240 Feel free to add
01:19:58.120 on either that question
01:19:59.260 or something else
01:20:00.120 that was said.
01:20:01.020 Go ahead.
01:20:02.040 Welcome to the show.
01:20:02.920 A lot was said,
01:20:04.060 so I don't know
01:20:04.500 where we're at,
01:20:05.040 but shout outs to everybody.
01:20:06.680 Shout outs to everybody
01:20:07.440 on the screen right now.
01:20:08.460 What's going on?
01:20:09.040 What's going on?
01:20:09.680 What's up?
01:20:11.000 So go ahead.
01:20:12.880 Go ahead, bro.
01:20:13.340 So we were talking
01:20:14.300 about how in my experience,
01:20:16.640 I always thought
01:20:17.620 that virgin women
01:20:18.580 were more moral or something,
01:20:20.160 but usually over a certain age,
01:20:22.660 there's just something
01:20:23.440 wrong with them.
01:20:24.800 Do you agree?
01:20:26.160 Disagree?
01:20:26.940 Have you ever taken
01:20:27.620 someone's virginity?
01:20:29.860 And I also made the point
01:20:32.320 that virginity
01:20:33.920 isn't what it used to be.
01:20:36.360 Women used to stay.
01:20:39.020 Now even you can take
01:20:40.300 someone's virginity
01:20:41.200 and they'll be on a flight
01:20:42.060 to Dubai the next week.
01:20:43.580 You don't know.
01:20:44.580 Yeah, they definitely
01:20:46.500 going to be on that flight
01:20:47.240 to Dubai.
01:20:48.380 Now, I'm not going
01:20:50.260 to say nothing about
01:20:50.940 if I took virginity.
01:20:52.000 I plead the fifth on that.
01:20:53.340 But what I would say
01:20:54.680 is your assumption
01:20:56.040 that they're good or bad.
01:20:57.660 I mean, it's quite rare
01:20:59.320 for somebody to have that.
01:21:01.100 And if they do have
01:21:02.200 that virginity
01:21:02.880 in this point in time,
01:21:04.080 then I don't know.
01:21:04.980 You have to really see
01:21:06.040 why they maintain
01:21:07.320 that virginity.
01:21:07.900 But you were right
01:21:08.700 earlier in your assumption
01:21:09.700 they're going to probably
01:21:11.000 leverage that
01:21:11.800 in a relationship
01:21:13.420 or leverage that
01:21:14.480 in their dealings
01:21:15.400 in the marketplace.
01:21:16.820 I think what was just
01:21:18.500 being said about marriages
01:21:19.700 in China
01:21:20.560 and marriages also
01:21:22.500 in mating
01:21:23.460 in, what's it called?
01:21:25.840 Thailand while I'm here.
01:21:28.720 Yeah, it's crazy.
01:21:29.780 You're definitely paying.
01:21:30.840 You're paying buffalo,
01:21:32.200 gold, land.
01:21:34.020 Girls are raking up on that.
01:21:35.620 As far as in China,
01:21:37.420 it's very bad in China.
01:21:39.020 Like the guys
01:21:40.000 are getting crushed.
01:21:41.180 Girls actually have
01:21:42.000 mating calculators
01:21:43.040 so they know how much
01:21:44.340 they could equate for worth.
01:21:46.500 So it's a crazy marketplace
01:21:48.180 and I think things
01:21:49.500 have changed dramatically.
01:21:51.360 One thing I would say, though,
01:21:53.260 is in my history of Dayton,
01:21:54.620 I have received an offer
01:21:56.200 for, you could say a dowry,
01:21:59.420 but it was going in my direction.
01:22:01.100 So the family offered me money
01:22:02.480 to marry their actual daughter.
01:22:04.200 So that's extremely rare.
01:22:06.420 But I got lucky on that one.
01:22:07.620 I still passed.
01:22:08.820 But net net.
01:22:10.720 It was an interesting situation.
01:22:12.680 Her family was from Sudan.
01:22:14.220 So they offered me
01:22:15.160 a massive amounts of funds
01:22:16.400 to manage because
01:22:17.480 majority of the sons
01:22:18.900 in the family
01:22:19.660 were not competent
01:22:21.300 to manage the actual
01:22:22.880 family's portfolio.
01:22:23.720 And the father felt like
01:22:24.980 if I was to marry his daughter,
01:22:27.080 I would be a good successor.
01:22:28.700 And then at the end of the day,
01:22:29.940 I was like, hell no,
01:22:30.920 she can still divorce me
01:22:32.040 and rob me at the end of it.
01:22:33.420 So no, I'm good.
01:22:34.620 And then I just backed out
01:22:35.940 of the deal.
01:22:36.680 But yeah, it's extremely rare
01:22:38.080 for that to happen.
01:22:40.560 Yeah.
01:22:41.040 Glenn, what were you going
01:22:41.780 to say earlier?
01:22:44.560 I was going to say like,
01:22:45.680 you know, this whole thing,
01:22:47.300 it's men appealing to women
01:22:49.940 when really it really needs
01:22:52.360 to be the other way around.
01:22:53.320 If you think about it,
01:22:53.900 like her virginity is nice.
01:22:56.580 It's great.
01:22:57.120 Cool.
01:22:57.440 Cute.
01:22:57.660 But how does she treat you?
01:22:59.380 What did we already know
01:23:00.420 what men could bring to the table?
01:23:01.760 We are the protectors,
01:23:02.780 providers, you know,
01:23:04.120 we are the ones that
01:23:04.980 they're going to be taxing on
01:23:06.960 at the end of the day
01:23:07.680 if they decide to leave.
01:23:08.460 We know that we are
01:23:09.300 carrying the risk, right?
01:23:11.780 So if we are carrying
01:23:12.820 the risk of the investment,
01:23:15.400 then what are we investing in?
01:23:17.480 Why are we appealing
01:23:18.520 to the thing that we're
01:23:19.400 trying to invest in
01:23:20.300 when it should be
01:23:21.160 them appealing to you,
01:23:23.740 the one that's going
01:23:24.220 to invest in them, right?
01:23:26.240 So it's like we have
01:23:27.820 this whole thing ass backwards.
01:23:30.840 And that's why
01:23:31.520 we're in this situation.
01:23:32.400 Guys constantly trying
01:23:33.580 to appeal to women,
01:23:34.660 trying to, you know,
01:23:35.740 dance, to be the little monkey,
01:23:37.600 to try to like,
01:23:38.000 hey, I'm a good catch.
01:23:39.500 But you see what
01:23:40.940 the top 20% of them are doing.
01:23:42.540 They're not even worried
01:23:43.160 about women.
01:23:44.100 Women are appealing to them.
01:23:45.500 That's the mindset
01:23:46.200 that guys need to have
01:23:47.340 instead of this other way around
01:23:49.480 because that's the only way
01:23:50.380 you're going to be able
01:23:51.020 to flip it is
01:23:52.620 reinstate the value system
01:23:54.380 that's different.
01:23:54.960 Like, hey,
01:23:55.140 we hold the value.
01:23:56.500 You are going to be
01:23:57.420 the addition.
01:24:00.240 Yeah, I agree.
01:24:02.960 Pearl,
01:24:03.420 I do want to add
01:24:04.160 to that real quick
01:24:05.040 because I am like
01:24:06.300 the top 5% of America
01:24:08.440 and 1% globally.
01:24:09.820 I'll tell you what, guys.
01:24:11.180 They're not doing
01:24:11.940 nothing fantastic
01:24:12.740 for us neither.
01:24:14.240 They're just trying
01:24:14.940 to take our money.
01:24:16.900 Like,
01:24:17.260 I know you guys
01:24:18.100 have dreams
01:24:18.680 that they're like,
01:24:19.320 and I'm 666 everything,
01:24:20.620 six pack,
01:24:21.160 six feet.
01:24:22.120 My six figures
01:24:22.720 make seven figures.
01:24:23.680 So it's like,
01:24:24.900 I still get raked
01:24:25.920 over the coals.
01:24:26.660 It's worse stuff.
01:24:27.600 Like,
01:24:28.020 they charge me
01:24:28.500 a high price.
01:24:29.880 And so I think
01:24:30.660 Kevin Simmons said it the best.
01:24:31.960 You're not a high value man.
01:24:33.000 You're a high target.
01:24:34.340 So at the end of the day,
01:24:35.680 I'm just a target.
01:24:37.360 Right?
01:24:37.720 So the coolness
01:24:39.020 is just in my freedom.
01:24:40.480 But outside of that,
01:24:41.760 when I get into a deal,
01:24:43.040 they want the whole barn.
01:24:44.480 They want everything.
01:24:46.460 So it's not like,
01:24:47.800 hey, man,
01:24:48.100 if I get this money
01:24:49.040 and I become
01:24:49.780 an ultra ninja,
01:24:51.020 I'm going to get girls
01:24:52.020 at my beck and call.
01:24:53.140 Nah,
01:24:53.420 they're just going to play you.
01:24:54.820 That's it.
01:24:55.860 And it's worse up here.
01:24:57.860 I'm curious,
01:24:58.460 how much money
01:24:59.080 were you offered?
01:25:02.220 Ah,
01:25:02.720 well,
01:25:03.000 the family estate
01:25:03.860 had somewhere around
01:25:04.640 like 50 million
01:25:05.720 or something.
01:25:06.260 It wasn't too bad.
01:25:09.060 He did well for himself
01:25:10.120 for an immigrant to America.
01:25:11.840 Oh my gosh.
01:25:13.040 Did you turn that down?
01:25:15.600 Yeah,
01:25:16.080 I mean,
01:25:16.340 I got my own money
01:25:17.300 and then I know
01:25:17.920 what that comes with.
01:25:19.140 I'm going to get divorced
01:25:20.080 and she's going to take
01:25:20.800 half of it.
01:25:21.460 Like,
01:25:21.640 heck no.
01:25:23.680 Was she a complete
01:25:24.780 goblin or something?
01:25:27.720 Nah,
01:25:28.220 I mean,
01:25:28.520 if I was still
01:25:29.160 on the come up,
01:25:29.940 I would have took
01:25:30.420 the offer though.
01:25:31.400 But I wasn't.
01:25:33.120 Wait,
01:25:33.700 couldn't you put her
01:25:35.160 on child support
01:25:36.100 with that
01:25:36.440 or alimony?
01:25:37.700 She's not the money.
01:25:39.620 It would depend
01:25:40.420 on how that deal
01:25:41.200 went down.
01:25:41.880 If they invested
01:25:42.700 some of that money
01:25:43.420 into the conjugal fund
01:25:44.720 of that marriage,
01:25:45.420 then it would mean
01:25:46.100 something if she split.
01:25:47.120 If it's just,
01:25:47.820 I'm an heiress
01:25:48.340 for a future date
01:25:49.340 of some of this money,
01:25:50.560 then it means nothing now.
01:25:52.560 Exactly.
01:25:53.420 And that was more
01:25:54.140 on the last one.
01:25:55.600 Yeah.
01:25:56.040 Can I,
01:25:56.800 can I add something
01:25:57.600 just for the,
01:25:58.400 the high,
01:25:59.860 high value man?
01:26:00.860 I,
01:26:01.520 you know,
01:26:01.680 when I used to work
01:26:02.260 at child support,
01:26:02.860 I've,
01:26:03.180 I've read so many
01:26:03.940 divorce orders
01:26:04.700 and divorce judgments
01:26:05.580 that would cross my desk.
01:26:06.800 And even before
01:26:07.820 a lot of this content
01:26:08.780 was,
01:26:09.180 was out there,
01:26:09.860 I had realized
01:26:11.260 that the more
01:26:11.880 a guy was making
01:26:12.980 the bigger fish
01:26:14.080 he was to fry.
01:26:15.080 So when I heard
01:26:15.840 like Kevin Samuels
01:26:17.080 or Coach Greg Adams
01:26:17.960 use the word
01:26:18.780 high value target
01:26:20.280 immediately resonated
01:26:21.520 with me
01:26:22.020 because I'm,
01:26:22.620 I'm looking at it
01:26:23.740 and this is such
01:26:24.500 a bad deal.
01:26:25.180 And this is where,
01:26:26.360 you know,
01:26:27.160 a lot of the red pill
01:26:27.940 centers around
01:26:28.560 this concept
01:26:29.180 of hypergamy.
01:26:30.440 And a lot of times
01:26:31.600 you'll see,
01:26:32.340 they'll say,
01:26:32.960 well,
01:26:33.060 women are hypergamous.
01:26:34.140 It's just their nature.
01:26:35.540 But the truth
01:26:36.320 of the matter is,
01:26:37.100 is that really both,
01:26:38.620 both sides of the equation
01:26:40.700 are looking for the best deal
01:26:42.000 they can get.
01:26:42.780 And the dowry system,
01:26:44.160 especially in a monogamous society
01:26:45.680 is,
01:26:46.080 is what checks hypergamy
01:26:47.160 on either side.
01:26:49.040 There is a really great comment
01:26:50.480 on one of the shorts
01:26:51.220 that you posted
01:26:51.860 of,
01:26:52.160 of us from our sit down,
01:26:53.540 Pearl that described
01:26:55.160 a situation like this.
01:26:57.020 But the question,
01:26:58.000 I guess I want to ask is,
01:26:59.540 you know,
01:26:59.740 when I think of a high status man
01:27:01.500 or someone who's doing well,
01:27:03.220 how would you get that guy
01:27:05.060 to be monogamous?
01:27:06.620 You know,
01:27:06.920 like I always think
01:27:07.520 of Andrew Tate.
01:27:08.280 If I had to pitch the deal
01:27:09.640 to Andrew Tate,
01:27:10.680 how would I do that?
01:27:13.260 Do any guys have a suggestion?
01:27:14.820 I'll,
01:27:14.980 I'll tell you mine after.
01:27:17.580 Um,
01:27:18.100 I don't think men like that.
01:27:20.500 I think he would just
01:27:21.480 find a way around it.
01:27:23.160 Yeah.
01:27:23.540 Pearl's tried to ask
01:27:24.560 multiple people
01:27:25.280 to sell,
01:27:26.200 sell marriage.
01:27:26.940 It's one of the things
01:27:27.620 on her platform
01:27:28.340 and no one can do it.
01:27:29.480 So I'm not going to even try.
01:27:31.180 There's no way.
01:27:32.160 Maybe,
01:27:32.700 maybe there's some sort of like,
01:27:34.640 uh,
01:27:34.880 if,
01:27:35.140 if I was going to go
01:27:35.800 the dowry route,
01:27:37.100 um,
01:27:37.960 it would have to be
01:27:38.700 some sort of maybe
01:27:39.600 political influence.
01:27:41.600 That's probably
01:27:42.360 what I would maybe.
01:27:43.560 Wait,
01:27:43.600 wait,
01:27:43.780 let me add to that
01:27:44.880 because I know
01:27:45.320 where you're getting at.
01:27:46.340 Yeah.
01:27:46.620 For me,
01:27:47.260 I would take wealth.
01:27:49.540 That would be the only way.
01:27:51.000 I always,
01:27:51.820 I often say,
01:27:52.560 I don't say
01:27:53.120 I will never get married.
01:27:54.220 I would only get married
01:27:55.240 to the,
01:27:55.820 the,
01:27:56.860 the owner of Hawaii.
01:27:58.300 He has a daughter.
01:28:00.100 I would marry her.
01:28:01.260 Yeah.
01:28:01.500 Like that would be
01:28:02.260 the only way
01:28:03.040 I would get married.
01:28:03.960 So would it have to be wealth?
01:28:05.460 Well,
01:28:05.700 well,
01:28:06.020 yeah,
01:28:06.300 well,
01:28:06.580 and that's where I'm getting at.
01:28:07.780 And there's interesting
01:28:08.360 because,
01:28:08.680 because the situation
01:28:09.340 you just described,
01:28:10.220 Sean,
01:28:10.440 I hope if I'm getting
01:28:11.340 your name right,
01:28:12.000 is,
01:28:12.640 um,
01:28:13.500 is what you said
01:28:14.480 was really interesting
01:28:15.200 because after you
01:28:16.940 became well off,
01:28:18.240 it became something
01:28:19.820 you cared about less
01:28:20.780 because now you have that.
01:28:22.220 And what we tell men
01:28:23.400 nowadays,
01:28:23.800 that's at least put out
01:28:25.340 there as common knowledge,
01:28:26.160 whether from trad cons
01:28:27.220 or whoever,
01:28:27.760 is you have to make it.
01:28:28.560 You got to be a good
01:28:29.240 provider.
01:28:29.760 You got to,
01:28:30.220 you got to get past
01:28:31.400 all these things
01:28:31.780 and make all this money.
01:28:32.560 And then a woman's
01:28:33.200 going to want to pair up
01:28:34.200 with you.
01:28:35.000 But if nobody helps him
01:28:36.360 in his early days,
01:28:37.880 why would he feel
01:28:39.020 that he needs to be
01:28:39.840 monogamous to one woman?
01:28:41.420 The dowry system
01:28:42.540 helped these two
01:28:43.320 help the guy
01:28:44.640 get started
01:28:45.300 in his early 20s.
01:28:46.460 They said,
01:28:46.800 okay,
01:28:47.400 his family's a good family.
01:28:48.680 He's going to get
01:28:49.100 a good inheritance.
01:28:50.060 He,
01:28:50.200 he looks like he's starting
01:28:51.340 off on a good career path.
01:28:52.440 He has a good trade.
01:28:53.720 Let's invest this money,
01:28:54.940 get his store open for him,
01:28:56.360 get a house set up for him.
01:28:57.700 As he grows into
01:28:58.940 this higher status,
01:29:00.220 there's no such thing
01:29:01.520 as,
01:29:01.740 as leaving
01:29:02.260 because these people,
01:29:03.260 they,
01:29:03.640 you're invested,
01:29:04.360 you're mutually
01:29:04.880 invested in this.
01:29:06.280 When someone like
01:29:06.860 Andrew Tate,
01:29:07.400 I always think about it.
01:29:08.300 He'd probably still say no.
01:29:09.460 But if someone came to him
01:29:11.220 and said,
01:29:11.700 uh,
01:29:12.660 you know,
01:29:13.020 this is my daughter
01:29:13.900 and she's coming
01:29:14.820 with a province
01:29:15.760 in Romania
01:29:16.420 and some shipping lanes
01:29:17.860 and they have this much
01:29:18.680 income per year,
01:29:19.720 he's going to have to
01:29:20.500 think about it at least
01:29:21.400 and say,
01:29:21.920 should I get rid
01:29:22.840 of my webcam ladies
01:29:24.320 or whatever?
01:29:25.100 Or should I take this?
01:29:26.540 What's going to be
01:29:27.040 a better prospect
01:29:27.840 for my children
01:29:28.420 going forward?
01:29:29.120 And he can make
01:29:29.640 that calculation.
01:29:30.820 But the point is,
01:29:31.680 is it's a negotiation.
01:29:32.680 It's a mutual contribution.
01:29:35.180 And this is how monogamy
01:29:37.220 became a thing
01:29:38.940 in higher complex civilizations
01:29:41.540 and especially the West
01:29:42.860 and why it worked
01:29:43.840 for so long.
01:29:44.500 So nowadays,
01:29:45.800 when it comes to virginity,
01:29:47.340 if I'm a woman
01:29:48.680 and my parents
01:29:50.520 are leaving me nothing
01:29:51.520 to help me with the marriage
01:29:52.700 or no bequest,
01:29:54.040 I'm out here in the market
01:29:55.580 and I have to essentially
01:29:57.280 play the love match game
01:29:58.700 and rely on beauty,
01:30:00.900 I don't know,
01:30:02.540 maybe it's a better idea
01:30:03.400 to start the OnlyFans
01:30:04.500 and get a million dollars
01:30:05.560 like that 18-year-old girl
01:30:06.840 that was on Twitter recently.
01:30:08.900 I bet she would get
01:30:10.280 more takers,
01:30:11.340 to be honest.
01:30:12.600 Yeah,
01:30:12.900 because the families
01:30:14.520 are putting out
01:30:15.180 the daughters
01:30:15.680 as essentially poor women
01:30:17.900 and then they're expecting
01:30:19.680 some high-value,
01:30:21.420 you know,
01:30:21.600 some high-status guy
01:30:22.440 or some guy with potential
01:30:23.360 to take on this deal.
01:30:25.080 And then,
01:30:25.400 you know,
01:30:25.940 our family law system
01:30:27.200 is essentially 50-50.
01:30:28.320 People don't like 50-50.
01:30:29.560 They don't want to hear
01:30:30.080 the word 50-50.
01:30:30.980 They say it's a natural,
01:30:31.740 but the fact is,
01:30:32.340 is our law is 50-50.
01:30:34.160 So,
01:30:34.820 you know,
01:30:34.980 until they get that changed,
01:30:36.820 then I think if guys
01:30:37.760 are going to take
01:30:38.560 the monogamous
01:30:39.380 I'm married to you
01:30:40.380 legally deal,
01:30:41.460 they have to demand
01:30:43.460 a contribution.
01:30:44.400 Until then,
01:30:45.000 then they're going to keep
01:30:45.600 doing what they're doing
01:30:46.420 and the women are going to
01:30:47.180 keep not caring
01:30:47.780 about their virginity
01:30:48.560 because virginity
01:30:49.340 is not enough
01:30:50.260 to create monogamy
01:30:51.420 as we're seeing
01:30:52.100 in front of us today.
01:30:53.520 Well,
01:30:53.900 I think also guys
01:30:54.540 need to prepare themselves
01:30:55.640 before even thinking
01:30:56.580 about marriage.
01:30:57.300 Even if you were
01:30:58.520 going to get married,
01:30:59.180 if you're married-minded,
01:31:00.740 then you need to
01:31:01.260 protect your assets
01:31:02.060 and protect your things.
01:31:03.240 And there's ways
01:31:03.740 to do that
01:31:04.380 to where even if
01:31:05.640 you did get married,
01:31:06.960 your assets are protected
01:31:08.360 through like a trust
01:31:10.080 and an LLC
01:31:10.700 and have irrevocable
01:31:12.700 trust there.
01:31:13.640 Your mama
01:31:14.420 like Hakimi did?
01:31:17.140 Remember?
01:31:19.240 The Hakimi maneuver
01:31:20.540 where you put it all
01:31:21.360 in your mom's name?
01:31:22.660 Oh,
01:31:22.880 put it in your mom's name?
01:31:23.960 Yeah.
01:31:24.200 Well,
01:31:24.540 I mean,
01:31:24.940 in a way,
01:31:25.480 yeah,
01:31:25.800 but I mean,
01:31:26.600 you could put it
01:31:27.120 in a trust
01:31:27.460 like what Thor did.
01:31:28.740 Thor put everything
01:31:29.420 in a trust
01:31:30.060 before he got married.
01:31:32.620 Ronaldo's getting married
01:31:33.660 finally after me
01:31:34.560 with that girlfriend
01:31:34.900 for 10 years.
01:31:36.340 But guys,
01:31:36.800 where is he getting married?
01:31:40.180 Saudi Arabia.
01:31:41.520 You think she's going
01:31:42.220 to be able to get
01:31:42.960 anything from him
01:31:43.860 in Saudi Arabia?
01:31:45.640 And if most of his wealth
01:31:46.980 is there now.
01:31:48.160 You know,
01:31:48.540 Glenn,
01:31:49.620 to your point also,
01:31:50.480 sorry to interrupt,
01:31:51.040 Doug,
01:31:51.920 is that,
01:31:53.700 see,
01:31:53.860 that's where this
01:31:54.560 whole prenup discussion
01:31:55.460 comes from.
01:31:56.080 Prenups weren't really a thing.
01:31:57.380 We had actual marriage contracts.
01:31:59.840 Prenups are just a way
01:32:00.900 of saying,
01:32:01.440 I know I'm taking
01:32:02.180 a hypergamous deal
01:32:03.380 and we're acknowledging
01:32:05.500 this in the front.
01:32:06.440 So I want the higher,
01:32:07.760 the person that's higher status
01:32:09.520 or higher earner
01:32:10.480 has more net assets
01:32:11.800 wants to create
01:32:12.520 some type of protection
01:32:13.740 in order to take
01:32:14.760 the hypergamous deal.
01:32:16.320 Right?
01:32:16.760 And then when you bring up
01:32:17.700 prenups
01:32:18.180 in our society nowadays,
01:32:20.200 you're the bad guy
01:32:21.040 or why are you even
01:32:21.820 bringing that up?
01:32:22.300 I think Michael Knowles
01:32:23.140 told you,
01:32:23.760 Pearl,
01:32:24.460 specifically that he doesn't
01:32:25.720 even believe in prenups.
01:32:27.120 But prior to that,
01:32:28.020 I wonder if he believes
01:32:29.040 in dowry.
01:32:29.620 You should ask him next time.
01:32:31.100 Pearl.
01:32:31.360 He believes his son
01:32:32.520 should be a cuck, though.
01:32:33.760 I don't know if they'll
01:32:34.400 have me back, but...
01:32:36.160 I hope they do.
01:32:37.340 When we and Pearl were there,
01:32:38.340 we asked them,
01:32:38.960 I was like,
01:32:39.280 dude,
01:32:39.800 are you telling me
01:32:40.760 if your son
01:32:41.920 married a woman
01:32:42.600 who got pregnant
01:32:43.960 by another dude
01:32:44.880 that she knows
01:32:45.800 it wasn't your son's kid,
01:32:46.880 would you want him
01:32:48.960 to stay married to her?
01:32:50.720 He's like,
01:32:51.180 the divorces
01:32:51.680 can't have divorce.
01:32:52.860 I was like,
01:32:53.060 so you want him
01:32:53.760 to raise
01:32:54.460 this other man's child
01:32:56.680 knowing that he was deceived
01:32:58.480 to begin with?
01:33:00.160 I remember Pearl
01:33:01.300 asking something like that
01:33:02.320 specifically in the conversation.
01:33:04.560 But the other,
01:33:05.480 what I'm trying to get at too
01:33:06.620 is that there was
01:33:07.580 a defined marriage contract
01:33:09.100 and the marriage contract
01:33:10.300 listed the assets
01:33:11.460 that both parties
01:33:12.680 were bringing.
01:33:13.840 And this was a thing
01:33:14.880 that was discussed
01:33:15.680 prior to the marriage.
01:33:16.880 Nowadays,
01:33:17.940 if you're a guy
01:33:18.600 and you bring this up,
01:33:19.340 you're the bad guy
01:33:20.240 for bringing this up.
01:33:21.180 Oh,
01:33:21.300 you don't love her
01:33:22.160 or that's not your concern.
01:33:24.440 I mean,
01:33:24.680 it's your deal to provide.
01:33:26.460 You shouldn't be thinking
01:33:27.040 about divorce.
01:33:27.820 But for most of human history,
01:33:29.800 we have been having
01:33:31.640 that discussion
01:33:32.420 in the form
01:33:33.800 of the marriage contract.
01:33:35.120 And it's weird
01:33:35.860 because the closest thing
01:33:36.820 we have now
01:33:37.380 is a prenup,
01:33:37.980 which forces that discussion
01:33:39.140 somewhat.
01:33:40.540 But,
01:33:40.720 you know,
01:33:41.220 women,
01:33:41.920 they're playing
01:33:43.040 that sort of angle,
01:33:44.680 basically.
01:33:44.960 Well,
01:33:45.100 they're manipulating you
01:33:46.100 with that.
01:33:46.740 Like,
01:33:47.020 oh,
01:33:47.340 you're just setting yourself
01:33:48.100 up for failure.
01:33:49.220 You're just have one foot out
01:33:50.460 and one foot out.
01:33:50.660 Why are you thinking
01:33:51.160 about divorce?
01:33:52.520 And here's the thing,
01:33:53.260 though.
01:33:53.880 Oh,
01:33:54.280 go ahead,
01:33:54.640 Doug.
01:33:54.800 you see that more
01:33:56.580 and more women
01:33:57.280 are getting taken
01:33:58.560 for a ride
01:33:59.420 and all the women
01:34:01.060 are like,
01:34:01.500 oh,
01:34:01.820 oh,
01:34:02.020 you need to get
01:34:02.620 a prenup,
01:34:03.340 girl.
01:34:03.660 You need to get
01:34:04.080 Mary J.
01:34:04.980 Blythe has to pay her.
01:34:06.420 Mary J.
01:34:06.820 Blythe's ex
01:34:07.520 kept $6 million
01:34:08.980 of her money
01:34:09.660 and didn't pay her taxes
01:34:10.640 and then
01:34:11.400 used that
01:34:12.320 to date
01:34:13.420 and get with
01:34:13.820 another woman
01:34:14.660 and she has to pay him
01:34:16.120 $55,000 a year,
01:34:18.680 no,
01:34:19.140 a month.
01:34:20.680 Alimony,
01:34:21.260 right?
01:34:21.960 Yeah,
01:34:22.260 alimony.
01:34:22.600 There are more
01:34:23.240 and more instances
01:34:24.040 of this
01:34:25.340 and women
01:34:25.820 are encouraged
01:34:26.360 to get a prenup
01:34:27.200 but still,
01:34:28.020 if guys do it,
01:34:28.860 we're looked down
01:34:29.760 upon it.
01:34:30.240 It's insane.
01:34:31.880 But I would
01:34:32.700 offer to the conversation
01:34:34.260 that's their job
01:34:35.200 to do it.
01:34:36.040 They're selling a product
01:34:37.020 and they're making
01:34:37.620 great deals
01:34:38.280 for themselves.
01:34:38.900 I think men
01:34:39.300 just got bad
01:34:40.040 at making deals
01:34:40.840 for themselves.
01:34:41.900 They have suspended
01:34:42.800 their reason
01:34:43.800 and logic
01:34:44.400 in the sexual
01:34:45.740 marketplace
01:34:46.380 and in court team.
01:34:47.980 And then I would
01:34:48.520 give you an example.
01:34:49.380 Do you think
01:34:49.820 Julius Caesar
01:34:50.600 married the girl
01:34:51.320 at the bread shop
01:34:52.080 because she was sexy?
01:34:53.420 Absolutely not.
01:34:54.440 He made it
01:34:54.960 the concubine.
01:34:56.800 Exactly.
01:34:57.900 He only married
01:34:58.980 someone who was
01:34:59.660 going to give him
01:35:00.040 social,
01:35:00.520 political,
01:35:00.880 and economic power.
01:35:02.400 That's what marriage
01:35:03.360 was for.
01:35:04.140 But at a certain point
01:35:05.020 we have this thing
01:35:05.800 called new wealth.
01:35:07.160 And so men
01:35:07.600 might get rich
01:35:08.460 by working at Google.
01:35:09.640 Men might get rich
01:35:10.620 by getting
01:35:11.220 a get rich quick scheme
01:35:12.580 or whatever it is.
01:35:13.860 But they enter
01:35:14.460 into a new paradigm
01:35:15.320 and then they say,
01:35:17.260 well,
01:35:17.400 I don't care about money.
01:35:18.720 Well,
01:35:18.980 any man who's
01:35:19.840 very industrialist
01:35:21.160 and ingenious
01:35:22.400 all around
01:35:23.480 in all aspects
01:35:24.460 of life,
01:35:25.200 he would look at it
01:35:26.000 on a deal basis
01:35:26.920 and say,
01:35:27.560 why would I get
01:35:28.460 married to you?
01:35:29.440 Now,
01:35:29.700 I'll give you something.
01:35:30.400 You don't even have
01:35:30.920 to be Elon Musk.
01:35:32.140 If you go to India,
01:35:33.500 it used to be a time
01:35:34.840 where you would go
01:35:35.300 to India
01:35:35.780 and then a family
01:35:37.180 would say
01:35:37.720 of engineers,
01:35:38.920 of lawyers,
01:35:39.980 would say,
01:35:40.760 you cannot marry
01:35:41.500 that girl.
01:35:42.200 She works at McDonald's.
01:35:44.000 Our family
01:35:44.820 marries engineers
01:35:46.380 only.
01:35:47.680 And so there
01:35:48.380 was an exchange
01:35:49.420 always in the same
01:35:51.080 class
01:35:51.620 and in the same
01:35:52.660 politics
01:35:53.340 across the board.
01:35:54.920 We suspended it.
01:35:56.460 My brothers
01:35:56.980 are the same way.
01:35:58.240 He would always
01:35:58.700 dump teachers.
01:35:59.680 He was like
01:36:00.040 too dumb
01:36:00.580 engineering.
01:36:01.920 Like he literally
01:36:02.500 married a kid.
01:36:02.700 Yeah,
01:36:02.980 yeah,
01:36:03.180 yeah,
01:36:03.360 yeah.
01:36:03.820 So we just
01:36:04.640 suspended that though.
01:36:05.740 We're just like,
01:36:06.360 well,
01:36:06.460 I make money
01:36:07.120 so I don't care
01:36:07.840 about it.
01:36:08.540 And it's like,
01:36:09.140 you always must
01:36:10.140 care about it.
01:36:10.700 My brothers do well
01:36:11.740 but they're like,
01:36:12.560 that's,
01:36:13.120 when I came into
01:36:14.020 the space
01:36:14.600 and they were like,
01:36:15.180 I don't care about money.
01:36:17.060 I understand
01:36:17.840 it's not the same
01:36:18.820 but I was like,
01:36:19.400 I don't know,
01:36:19.760 my brothers,
01:36:20.600 they definitely did.
01:36:22.360 Yeah,
01:36:22.760 yeah,
01:36:22.880 exactly.
01:36:23.080 You also see another
01:36:23.360 kind of,
01:36:24.280 you see,
01:36:25.600 instead of actual
01:36:26.480 wealth,
01:36:27.600 you,
01:36:27.840 you see another
01:36:29.340 kind of marriage
01:36:30.120 now of like
01:36:30.980 social capital.
01:36:32.640 So,
01:36:33.260 Russell Wilson
01:36:34.880 marrying Sierra
01:36:36.000 is another thing
01:36:38.380 where Russell Wilson,
01:36:39.560 it changed his image
01:36:40.980 and kind of verified
01:36:42.020 his blackness
01:36:42.860 because he married
01:36:43.540 Sierra,
01:36:44.120 who was a single mom
01:36:45.020 into hip hop and stuff.
01:36:45.880 Or Bezos,
01:36:47.240 Bezos marrying
01:36:48.120 the super mid,
01:36:51.080 Lauren Sanchez.
01:36:52.780 The greatest mid
01:36:53.540 of all time.
01:36:54.840 A hundred percent.
01:36:56.100 That should be studied,
01:36:57.620 man.
01:36:58.340 But she,
01:37:00.100 I think,
01:37:00.780 isn't it
01:37:01.060 80 to 85%
01:37:02.140 of shoppers
01:37:02.720 on Amazon
01:37:03.320 are women?
01:37:04.220 I guarantee you
01:37:04.800 most of them
01:37:05.260 are between the ages
01:37:05.960 of 30 and 50.
01:37:07.620 And so,
01:37:08.360 it gets
01:37:08.900 Bezos'
01:37:09.480 social capital
01:37:10.520 and it gets
01:37:12.700 him in better
01:37:13.360 with his
01:37:13.900 primary demographic
01:37:15.120 of shoppers
01:37:15.680 if he married,
01:37:16.740 you know,
01:37:17.060 an attractive
01:37:17.680 single mom,
01:37:19.860 et cetera.
01:37:20.520 Because,
01:37:21.120 can you imagine
01:37:21.880 if Bezos
01:37:22.560 would have
01:37:23.040 married some
01:37:23.520 22-year-old
01:37:24.720 hot little
01:37:25.660 Russian model
01:37:26.480 or something,
01:37:27.060 they would have
01:37:27.580 skewered him
01:37:28.100 for it.
01:37:28.580 Yeah,
01:37:30.560 you're just
01:37:31.240 like Leonardo.
01:37:34.580 You brought up
01:37:35.440 a lot of
01:37:35.860 salient points
01:37:36.820 there,
01:37:37.140 Sean.
01:37:37.400 I really
01:37:37.860 agreed with
01:37:38.840 all of that.
01:37:39.720 And Pearl,
01:37:40.120 to your point
01:37:40.540 about men
01:37:41.060 not caring
01:37:41.960 about money,
01:37:42.860 it's completely
01:37:43.420 wrong.
01:37:43.920 Historically,
01:37:44.480 men have,
01:37:45.140 and that was
01:37:45.540 a major,
01:37:46.180 major part
01:37:46.780 of the marriage
01:37:47.180 negotiation.
01:37:48.740 More recently,
01:37:49.940 when romance
01:37:50.600 took over
01:37:51.080 and the love
01:37:51.600 match took over,
01:37:53.340 and fundamentally
01:37:54.120 romance is the
01:37:54.940 pedestalization
01:37:55.720 of the woman
01:37:56.320 putting the man
01:37:57.060 down here,
01:37:57.740 then there's
01:37:58.700 no limit
01:37:59.200 to what
01:37:59.660 her entitlement
01:38:00.620 expects
01:38:01.180 and to what
01:38:01.640 he thinks
01:38:02.020 he should
01:38:02.360 give her.
01:38:02.840 Then it's
01:38:03.140 I don't care
01:38:03.620 about money.
01:38:04.580 The other
01:38:04.940 thing that
01:38:05.360 you're talking
01:38:06.000 about,
01:38:06.320 Sean,
01:38:06.860 there's two
01:38:07.520 points,
01:38:08.460 is about
01:38:09.780 this new
01:38:11.680 money stuff.
01:38:12.560 And that was
01:38:13.180 something that
01:38:13.800 was a result
01:38:14.920 of modernization.
01:38:16.440 So it became
01:38:16.920 this thing where
01:38:17.420 now you can
01:38:17.900 go to college,
01:38:18.500 you can go
01:38:18.800 to school,
01:38:19.120 and you can
01:38:19.400 start off
01:38:19.980 from a lower
01:38:20.820 status family,
01:38:21.520 and you can
01:38:21.960 have a higher
01:38:22.500 chance of
01:38:23.380 slingshotting
01:38:24.060 yourself.
01:38:24.980 And then at
01:38:25.600 this point,
01:38:26.020 you might demand
01:38:26.720 a higher dowry,
01:38:27.740 and all these
01:38:28.520 things kind of
01:38:29.040 contributed to
01:38:29.680 muddying the
01:38:30.160 waters and
01:38:30.700 people not
01:38:31.120 knowing how
01:38:31.440 to negotiate
01:38:31.900 that with
01:38:32.500 romance taking
01:38:33.420 over was like
01:38:34.020 the perfect
01:38:34.460 storm.
01:38:36.440 But what's
01:38:38.060 funny now is
01:38:38.640 I look at it
01:38:39.140 now and I
01:38:39.480 look at the
01:38:39.920 cost of
01:38:40.440 things,
01:38:40.920 wages not
01:38:42.320 keeping up
01:38:42.740 with the
01:38:43.000 cost of
01:38:43.440 living and
01:38:43.920 all these
01:38:44.380 kinds of
01:38:44.760 things.
01:38:45.100 And we're
01:38:45.400 sort of
01:38:45.720 moving into
01:38:46.260 this era
01:38:46.780 where romance
01:38:47.480 is kind of
01:38:47.900 taking a
01:38:48.300 backseat because
01:38:48.840 we can't
01:38:49.260 afford romance
01:38:50.120 anymore.
01:38:50.460 And what
01:38:51.320 we do
01:38:51.600 going forward
01:38:52.260 is probably
01:38:52.780 going to
01:38:53.020 have to
01:38:53.260 be informed
01:38:53.800 from what
01:38:54.780 we did
01:38:55.120 in the
01:38:55.380 past.
01:38:56.240 And then
01:38:56.800 to your
01:38:57.060 point about
01:38:57.560 concubines,
01:38:58.400 it's funny
01:38:59.000 you use that
01:38:59.460 word because
01:38:59.920 that's something
01:39:00.440 I always
01:39:00.900 mention.
01:39:01.440 And I like
01:39:01.780 to say
01:39:02.060 tradcon
01:39:02.660 wives,
01:39:03.260 they're not
01:39:03.840 real wives,
01:39:04.560 they're nothing
01:39:04.900 but concubines
01:39:05.860 because they
01:39:06.720 bring nothing
01:39:07.320 in, they
01:39:08.140 expect him
01:39:08.680 to pay for
01:39:09.360 everything.
01:39:10.380 And when you
01:39:10.680 look at older
01:39:11.440 sources, there
01:39:12.180 are older sources
01:39:13.000 from ancient
01:39:13.600 Rome and in
01:39:15.220 different places
01:39:15.800 that say the
01:39:16.480 difference between
01:39:17.280 a wife and a
01:39:18.020 concubine is that
01:39:18.760 the wife comes
01:39:19.460 with the
01:39:19.800 dowry.
01:39:20.320 That's what
01:39:20.720 puts her
01:39:21.140 into the
01:39:21.500 station.
01:39:22.060 Like you
01:39:22.700 said about
01:39:23.080 Julius Caesar
01:39:23.820 or King
01:39:24.340 Henry VIII,
01:39:25.880 she would
01:39:26.540 not marry
01:39:27.360 a, you
01:39:29.220 know, some
01:39:29.620 woman who's
01:39:30.400 a local
01:39:30.760 tavern wench
01:39:31.520 or whatever
01:39:32.100 worked at,
01:39:32.860 you know, at
01:39:33.360 the bakery,
01:39:33.880 whatever she
01:39:34.320 does.
01:39:35.440 The woman
01:39:36.420 that gets to
01:39:36.940 occupy the
01:39:37.600 queen's seat is
01:39:38.400 bringing in a
01:39:38.960 considerable dowry,
01:39:40.140 sometimes the
01:39:40.700 annual income
01:39:41.320 of the entire
01:39:41.940 kingdom for a
01:39:43.120 year, like it
01:39:44.120 was in his
01:39:45.020 case.
01:39:46.200 So this, you
01:39:46.600 know, a lot of
01:39:47.140 times you'll hear
01:39:47.540 this other maxim
01:39:48.220 that, you
01:39:48.620 know, a man
01:39:49.160 can make a
01:39:49.600 woman a
01:39:49.940 queen and
01:39:50.540 this and that,
01:39:51.260 but it's, that's
01:39:51.820 just not how it
01:39:52.400 was, I guess, but
01:39:53.980 it's going to be
01:39:54.400 such a stupid
01:39:54.980 deal.
01:39:55.600 Everybody's going
01:39:56.020 to be looking
01:39:56.360 at him like, we
01:39:56.860 have a dummy for
01:39:57.700 a king.
01:39:58.160 We're all going
01:39:58.740 to die.
01:39:59.140 This is, we
01:39:59.720 need to assassinate
01:40:00.440 this guy.
01:40:00.860 Something needs, we
01:40:01.540 need to get rid of
01:40:02.040 this guy.
01:40:02.500 He's not thinking
01:40:03.100 right.
01:40:03.480 We're saying he's
01:40:04.360 willing to risk what
01:40:05.720 he has for
01:40:06.940 something that he's
01:40:07.620 not, there's not
01:40:08.280 any extra value.
01:40:10.060 Wait, Pearl, didn't
01:40:10.860 that guy get
01:40:11.440 stabbed out in
01:40:12.500 Game of Thrones
01:40:13.180 like that, doing
01:40:13.940 some nonsense
01:40:14.540 like that?
01:40:15.600 I don't watch
01:40:16.200 you.
01:40:16.240 You didn't ever
01:40:16.560 see it?
01:40:17.260 Oh my God.
01:40:18.580 The guy basically
01:40:19.580 did the same thing.
01:40:20.580 He was the king.
01:40:21.260 He was supposed to
01:40:21.800 leave, but he
01:40:22.460 ended up just
01:40:23.000 marrying some girl
01:40:23.720 that was helping
01:40:24.280 people and it
01:40:25.180 messed up his
01:40:25.680 alliance with other
01:40:26.660 people that he
01:40:27.620 was supposed to
01:40:28.180 work with.
01:40:28.700 So I always just
01:40:29.820 say like when
01:40:30.580 you're having
01:40:31.300 marriage, men
01:40:32.920 are hypergamous
01:40:33.900 too.
01:40:34.300 They just suspended
01:40:35.140 it.
01:40:35.540 Exactly.
01:40:35.780 For me, that's the
01:40:36.740 same thing I'm
01:40:37.340 saying.
01:40:37.680 What benefit do I
01:40:38.720 get?
01:40:38.960 I'm a dealer.
01:40:39.680 I wheel and deal.
01:40:41.540 So at the same
01:40:42.480 time, this
01:40:42.960 relationship, this
01:40:45.440 is a deal.
01:40:46.560 And what is the
01:40:47.120 basis of that deal?
01:40:48.400 But guys have
01:40:49.060 suspended that.
01:40:50.280 And I would say
01:40:50.900 if you think that's
01:40:51.700 lame, then call
01:40:52.460 Genghis Khan lame.
01:40:53.720 Call Julius Caesar
01:40:54.680 the lame.
01:40:55.580 But these guys
01:40:56.200 would never sit
01:40:56.940 around in anything.
01:40:58.040 Watch this, Pearl.
01:40:59.040 Guys even took
01:41:00.120 fat wives if they
01:41:01.900 had a higher
01:41:02.480 dowry.
01:41:03.520 That's how high
01:41:04.080 pergamous they
01:41:04.740 were.
01:41:04.820 I have sources
01:41:05.360 on that.
01:41:07.720 Go ahead.
01:41:09.100 Them concubines
01:41:10.180 though.
01:41:10.480 So they're like,
01:41:10.820 look, yeah, I
01:41:12.000 gotta go there
01:41:12.360 with this fat
01:41:12.800 one just one
01:41:13.300 time.
01:41:13.560 But you know,
01:41:13.820 I got these
01:41:14.180 hotties over
01:41:14.660 here though.
01:41:15.160 So, you
01:41:15.460 know, I'm
01:41:16.300 okay.
01:41:16.840 Yeah, that is
01:41:17.460 true.
01:41:18.280 It's funny too
01:41:19.080 because you
01:41:19.540 can, like you
01:41:20.400 were doing, the
01:41:21.620 most masculine men
01:41:22.600 in history have
01:41:23.360 taken dowries.
01:41:24.320 They would not
01:41:24.760 get married and
01:41:25.400 just throw away
01:41:26.000 their marriage like
01:41:26.720 that.
01:41:27.440 There was someone
01:41:28.080 named Alcibiades
01:41:29.060 in ancient Greece
01:41:30.740 and he was a
01:41:31.340 major player in
01:41:32.180 the Athens-Sparta
01:41:33.140 war.
01:41:33.460 He was a general.
01:41:34.660 He was actually
01:41:35.300 fighting on both
01:41:36.100 sides because he
01:41:36.780 played this game
01:41:37.400 of politics so
01:41:38.180 well.
01:41:38.980 And there's a
01:41:39.420 history about him
01:41:40.960 and basically what
01:41:42.340 happened is he was
01:41:43.660 bringing too many
01:41:44.420 escorts to the
01:41:45.820 house and his
01:41:46.480 wife got mad and
01:41:47.480 one day she
01:41:47.940 couldn't take
01:41:48.280 anymore and she
01:41:48.660 decided to leave
01:41:49.440 and he had to go
01:41:50.740 over there and
01:41:51.480 pretty much beg for
01:41:53.160 her back because if
01:41:54.060 she left she was
01:41:54.860 taking her dowry back
01:41:55.960 with her and he
01:41:56.440 wasn't going to be
01:41:56.920 able to maintain
01:41:57.500 his household.
01:41:58.780 So it's like this
01:41:59.240 guy was a general
01:42:00.120 like he's one of
01:42:01.140 the one of the
01:42:02.420 you know this is a
01:42:03.140 masculine man you
01:42:04.280 can say.
01:42:04.820 So we've all been
01:42:05.500 really gaslit and
01:42:06.680 we have this kind of
01:42:07.640 weird collective
01:42:08.400 amnesia especially
01:42:09.460 amongst men of
01:42:11.360 understanding how to
01:42:12.240 negotiate marriage.
01:42:13.680 And Pearl I'm
01:42:14.140 telling you this whole
01:42:14.820 conversation right
01:42:15.760 here is what you
01:42:17.260 got a lot about the
01:42:17.980 trad con you know
01:42:19.020 influencers the next
01:42:19.940 time they try to
01:42:20.680 they try to dunk
01:42:21.740 they try to put
01:42:23.840 the level of
01:42:24.540 virtue on their
01:42:26.020 morality you know
01:42:27.520 attached to it when
01:42:28.880 it comes down to
01:42:29.580 it's like we can be
01:42:31.120 as moral as we
01:42:31.800 want but it doesn't
01:42:33.180 mean the person that
01:42:33.840 you're going to marry
01:42:34.460 is going to be
01:42:34.980 equally immoral as
01:42:36.420 you are.
01:42:37.320 Yeah.
01:42:37.560 And we've seen the
01:42:38.420 court system through
01:42:39.500 the divorce system
01:42:40.280 this that church girl
01:42:41.920 that was you know
01:42:42.960 all good she loved
01:42:44.280 Jesus she prayed
01:42:45.140 every Sunday she was
01:42:46.000 out there singing
01:42:46.720 she is just as
01:42:48.800 like non-moral as
01:42:50.840 like the whole
01:42:51.740 on the street
01:42:52.300 would you guys
01:42:54.380 take a dowry in
01:42:55.500 the form of
01:42:56.100 OnlyFans money
01:42:57.300 so like the like
01:42:58.720 someone like
01:42:59.920 50 million so
01:43:01.160 Sophia Rain
01:43:02.040 comes in and
01:43:04.200 she says hey
01:43:04.880 guys
01:43:05.460 wait wait she
01:43:09.720 says she says
01:43:10.380 I'm a virgin
01:43:11.200 too because she
01:43:12.180 says she's a
01:43:12.740 virgin
01:43:13.040 I'll say this
01:43:16.760 girl
01:43:17.040 she's got 50
01:43:19.140 mil I think
01:43:20.080 or something like
01:43:20.800 that
01:43:20.960 she'll give you
01:43:21.500 access to all of
01:43:22.360 her money if you
01:43:23.040 marry her
01:43:23.520 Pearl I'll say
01:43:24.480 this I am open
01:43:25.620 for negotiation
01:43:26.360 I will listen to
01:43:27.260 the terms of the
01:43:27.960 deal I will sit
01:43:29.100 at that table
01:43:29.840 I will I will
01:43:31.200 have the discussion
01:43:32.100 in good full
01:43:33.400 faith and credit
01:43:34.320 you know
01:43:34.800 what about you
01:43:36.560 Sean are you
01:43:37.060 open to
01:43:37.500 negotiation
01:43:38.200 yeah I mean
01:43:40.700 you got to hear
01:43:41.280 out every deal
01:43:42.320 so you know
01:43:43.400 money could be
01:43:44.640 converted
01:43:45.080 let's get it
01:43:46.480 gotta sit down
01:43:49.240 Glenn are you
01:43:49.840 open
01:43:50.300 I was out there
01:43:53.040 at $50
01:43:53.520 we have another
01:43:57.560 panelist I'm going
01:43:58.740 to let some other
01:43:59.380 people up but
01:44:00.640 thank you guys so
01:44:01.420 much for coming in
01:44:02.260 we have a full
01:44:02.900 back thing
01:44:03.860 no worries
01:44:04.360 thank you Pearl
01:44:06.080 this is a great
01:44:07.380 panel so thanks
01:44:08.300 for coming in
01:44:09.180 okay so now
01:44:13.400 we got Sean
01:44:14.180 sorry that went
01:44:16.100 a little off
01:44:16.680 topic but I'm
01:44:17.500 hoping you can
01:44:18.180 but it was great
01:44:19.120 it was so good
01:44:19.800 guys there's a
01:44:20.860 good convo going
01:44:21.860 I try to keep it
01:44:22.760 going even if it's
01:44:23.520 a little off
01:44:24.180 but the real
01:44:25.500 question we're
01:44:26.040 talking about today
01:44:27.000 is virgin women
01:44:28.920 have you ever
01:44:30.460 dated a virgin
01:44:31.320 slept with a
01:44:32.320 virgin did it
01:44:33.720 go well bad
01:44:34.880 how did it
01:44:35.820 did you see
01:44:37.460 what I saw
01:44:38.260 do you think
01:44:38.680 I'm full of
01:44:39.120 shit whatever
01:44:40.180 go ahead
01:44:40.880 yeah I mean
01:44:41.760 can you hear me
01:44:42.540 yeah I can
01:44:43.260 hear you
01:44:43.780 yeah I mean
01:44:44.620 I can give you
01:44:45.200 sort of my
01:44:45.600 thoughts like
01:44:46.320 pair bonding
01:44:48.440 stuff is kind
01:44:49.000 of bullshit
01:44:49.420 like you know
01:44:50.220 I've been with
01:44:50.680 Sean are you
01:44:51.500 on speaker or
01:44:52.180 something because
01:44:52.580 you sound really
01:44:53.300 far away
01:44:53.900 okay let me
01:44:55.540 change my audio
01:44:56.560 real quick
01:44:57.220 can you hear me
01:45:02.020 now
01:45:02.460 okay awesome
01:45:05.240 yeah I was
01:45:06.240 gonna say I
01:45:06.580 think the whole
01:45:06.920 bonding stuff is
01:45:07.600 kind of BS
01:45:08.240 like I have
01:45:08.800 been with the
01:45:09.240 virgin before
01:45:09.800 and I would
01:45:10.320 say after sex
01:45:10.980 they're pretty
01:45:11.760 clingy but
01:45:13.540 eventually if the
01:45:14.400 girl's not happy
01:45:15.000 with you she's
01:45:15.520 gonna bounce
01:45:16.000 right we know
01:45:16.560 women tend to
01:45:17.280 make up about
01:45:17.920 80% of the
01:45:18.600 breakups in
01:45:19.160 general so I
01:45:19.760 don't think
01:45:20.120 because you
01:45:21.100 bond with the
01:45:21.640 virgin she's
01:45:22.220 gonna stick with
01:45:22.800 you for life
01:45:23.420 like I think the
01:45:24.380 trad cons are
01:45:24.980 totally wrong on
01:45:25.800 that but you
01:45:27.740 know I would
01:45:28.440 say you know as
01:45:29.300 far as sort of
01:45:30.080 the the video I
01:45:30.940 think it's about
01:45:31.400 like you know
01:45:31.820 virgins over 25 in
01:45:33.300 particular like I
01:45:34.120 think men like the
01:45:34.820 idea of a young
01:45:35.520 virgin for a lot of
01:45:37.080 reasons including
01:45:37.960 the fact that
01:45:38.480 they're genuine
01:45:39.260 they're generally
01:45:39.980 more impressionable
01:45:40.980 and appreciative of
01:45:42.340 a man's efforts and
01:45:43.240 value compared to a
01:45:44.620 girl who's been with
01:45:45.240 like 10 guys till
01:45:46.040 Sunday right so you
01:45:48.640 know if you start
01:45:50.300 meeting girls that
01:45:51.120 are like still
01:45:51.660 virgins past 25 which
01:45:53.100 I have there's always
01:45:54.120 something wrong with
01:45:54.960 them like they're
01:45:55.500 either very sexually
01:45:56.460 repressed or you
01:45:58.040 know to y'all's point
01:45:58.820 is they try to use it
01:45:59.820 as a bargaining chip
01:46:00.780 like I am higher value
01:46:02.840 than these other
01:46:03.520 women because you
01:46:04.460 know I haven't given
01:46:05.240 it up that easily
01:46:06.240 which to me you
01:46:07.540 know I agree with
01:46:08.360 Glenn you know
01:46:09.040 really what matters
01:46:10.420 is who you're
01:46:11.320 dealing with right
01:46:12.060 like does she have
01:46:12.600 a good attitude
01:46:13.200 is she very
01:46:13.740 supportive you
01:46:15.060 know does she put
01:46:15.620 out pretty well
01:46:16.520 and easily right
01:46:17.480 or is she you
01:46:18.820 know the type of
01:46:19.300 girl who's just
01:46:20.140 very prudish like
01:46:21.760 right you don't
01:46:22.180 want to deal with
01:46:22.680 a virgin prude
01:46:23.380 type girl like it
01:46:24.280 just doesn't make
01:46:25.040 any sense to me
01:46:25.960 so you know when
01:46:27.880 I meet girls that
01:46:28.700 are like you know
01:46:29.200 25 plus that are
01:46:30.100 still virgins right
01:46:31.160 I would equivalent
01:46:32.800 that to like a used
01:46:34.260 car with really low
01:46:35.260 miles that it's
01:46:36.040 been left on the
01:46:36.640 lot longer and
01:46:37.520 longer and then
01:46:38.740 they keep dropping
01:46:39.360 the price but like
01:46:40.600 it's still not
01:46:41.120 leaving the lot
01:46:41.800 right and you're
01:46:43.140 wondering like why
01:46:44.140 is that still there
01:46:45.240 and eventually they
01:46:46.160 drop the price though
01:46:46.980 it's so freaking low
01:46:48.080 someone takes it
01:46:48.800 off the lot and
01:46:49.900 what ends up
01:46:50.340 happening right the
01:46:51.120 headlight goes out
01:46:52.100 the brakes jam up
01:46:53.260 the horn goes off
01:46:54.060 randomly and you
01:46:55.060 realize that that
01:46:55.820 guy bought a lemon
01:46:56.580 right so you know
01:46:58.920 I'm in the camp of
01:46:59.840 the longer the girl
01:47:00.860 is a virgin
01:47:01.340 generally speaking
01:47:02.340 there's something
01:47:03.480 kind of off with
01:47:04.280 that girl and it's
01:47:05.020 not necessarily
01:47:05.520 something you want
01:47:06.320 to deal with in a
01:47:07.100 relationship long term
01:47:08.280 and I would say
01:47:10.760 anything that you're
01:47:12.320 good at takes
01:47:12.960 practice even like
01:47:14.760 relationships so if a
01:47:17.480 woman is 30 years
01:47:19.440 old and she's a
01:47:20.760 virgin she's either
01:47:22.260 never had a
01:47:23.100 relationship or she's
01:47:24.840 too crazy to have
01:47:25.960 even gotten into the
01:47:26.900 relationship stage to
01:47:27.960 get to sex so it's
01:47:29.620 like do you want to
01:47:30.900 be that person's
01:47:31.920 guinea pig I agree
01:47:33.700 with that and you
01:47:34.580 know what the whole
01:47:35.100 starfish comment I
01:47:36.040 think that's accurate
01:47:36.780 right like it's kind
01:47:37.920 of like a baseball
01:47:38.560 glove if you buy a
01:47:39.600 baseball glove and
01:47:40.680 just start playing you
01:47:41.840 know the big game
01:47:42.580 with that glove it's
01:47:43.680 not going to work
01:47:44.200 properly I think we
01:47:45.080 all know that right
01:47:45.780 that's why you got to
01:47:46.320 break the whole thing
01:47:47.020 in you need to make
01:47:47.980 sure you get the right
01:47:48.640 grooves and then it
01:47:49.920 works really well so
01:47:51.060 like I think when it
01:47:52.120 comes to sex having
01:47:53.060 sex with a virgin is
01:47:53.920 not going to be better
01:47:54.660 by any means than with
01:47:56.520 a girl who's let's
01:47:57.260 say she had an ex
01:47:58.480 boyfriend for a little
01:47:59.340 bit but then okay now
01:48:00.460 she's you know she's
01:48:01.800 very selective she's
01:48:03.120 you know she's only
01:48:03.620 had maybe like a one
01:48:04.680 or two guys something
01:48:05.360 like that I think
01:48:06.120 that's far better to
01:48:07.060 deal with you know
01:48:08.380 assuming she has a
01:48:08.960 good attitude and
01:48:09.620 stuff like that than
01:48:10.320 a girl who doesn't
01:48:11.120 have any of those
01:48:11.700 things and it's just
01:48:13.060 like hey I've never
01:48:13.940 been with any guy like
01:48:15.080 to me I don't know
01:48:16.460 why guys are so
01:48:17.160 obsessed with that but
01:48:19.200 I do get the the
01:48:20.540 whole like reason why
01:48:21.660 guys do like virgins
01:48:22.780 because you know if a
01:48:23.760 girl's like 22 23 and
01:48:25.360 she's very attractive and
01:48:26.900 you know she has all the
01:48:28.100 choice in the world
01:48:29.040 there is something
01:48:30.240 validating about the
01:48:31.240 fact that she chose
01:48:32.100 you over other guys
01:48:33.160 right versus a girl
01:48:34.020 who's like 32 33
01:48:35.780 she's been with a ton
01:48:37.020 of guys you know you
01:48:38.840 kind of know she's
01:48:39.520 settling at that point
01:48:40.360 so I get why a lot of
01:48:41.580 guys are not necessarily
01:48:42.580 looking to cash it in
01:48:44.000 with that cool cool
01:48:46.800 great call Doug MPA you
01:48:48.060 got any other questions
01:48:49.020 for him that was great
01:48:50.160 yes Sean's always a
01:48:51.800 good call thanks for
01:48:52.400 calling me we really
01:48:53.000 appreciate it absolutely
01:48:54.160 thanks guys thank you
01:48:58.100 that was great let's
01:48:59.860 do I'll fight you
01:49:02.640 naked next I'll fight
01:49:05.740 you naked what do
01:49:08.100 you think of the
01:49:08.580 topic have you dated
01:49:09.580 had sex with women
01:49:11.240 that are virgins am I
01:49:13.140 contradicting myself what
01:49:15.160 do you think go ahead
01:49:16.240 um I in my earlier
01:49:21.000 years uh I lost my
01:49:25.240 virginity to a virgin
01:49:26.720 when I was 15 and it
01:49:29.540 was kind of no big deal
01:49:30.580 for both of us she
01:49:32.220 turned out to be kind
01:49:33.300 of a head case and
01:49:35.140 then when I was in
01:49:37.300 college um I dated
01:49:40.860 somebody who was a
01:49:42.140 virgin um she was 18
01:49:45.060 and uh she was a
01:49:48.360 little more emotionally
01:49:49.660 connected um it seems
01:49:51.820 a little bit more
01:49:52.440 normal um but yeah I
01:49:56.580 don't I don't know a
01:49:57.700 premium on virginity it
01:49:59.780 varies so much from
01:50:01.180 girl to girl but I
01:50:03.120 don't really think it's
01:50:03.880 going to tell you much
01:50:04.720 um it just guarantees
01:50:07.500 that you're not going
01:50:08.400 to be raising some
01:50:09.100 girls this kid unless
01:50:10.120 they speak out to the
01:50:11.860 tool shed while you're
01:50:12.680 not looking so it's a
01:50:14.920 cool cool well thanks
01:50:19.300 um Doug MP you got any
01:50:20.420 other questions for him
01:50:21.520 I don't nice and short
01:50:23.160 and to the point thanks
01:50:23.980 buddy you really
01:50:24.480 appreciate it thank you
01:50:25.680 okay we're gonna add
01:50:32.300 Dasher hello can you
01:50:36.640 hear me I can hear you
01:50:38.220 um so what are your
01:50:39.620 thoughts on the topic
01:50:40.480 have you been with a
01:50:41.340 virgin woman um if you
01:50:44.260 if you disagree with
01:50:45.300 anything I said today
01:50:46.500 feel free to bring it
01:50:47.400 up uh what's been your
01:50:49.420 experience okay so by
01:50:53.160 the way thank you it's
01:50:53.980 been a long time that I
01:50:55.080 wanted to come on your
01:50:56.060 show okay so what's up
01:50:58.680 it's nice to talk to you
01:51:01.000 um your sound is muffled and I
01:51:04.240 have no idea why because a
01:51:07.280 few months ago uh we need
01:51:08.500 to come on the show but it
01:51:09.640 didn't work out I don't
01:51:10.440 know why uh maybe there
01:51:11.780 was a technical problem so
01:51:13.180 I'm gonna put you in the
01:51:15.380 waiting room so if you want
01:51:16.440 to fix it and then come
01:51:17.320 back I'll try yeah it just
01:51:18.680 sounds really muffled I can
01:51:19.820 um okay so I'm gonna do
01:51:22.800 ranger um ray Ragnar
01:51:27.360 uh yes uh so I think I think
01:51:34.800 you're accurate you need to
01:51:36.700 get a little closer to your
01:51:37.760 mic am I on speaker okay can
01:51:39.520 you hear me now uh that's
01:51:40.940 better go ahead okay yeah so
01:51:43.100 I think what I want the point
01:51:44.360 that I wanted to make was that
01:51:46.180 I think you're accurate uh
01:51:48.940 for maybe people who are a
01:51:50.620 little more um like friends
01:51:52.440 with benefits but I think
01:51:53.980 for a guy who wants to build
01:51:55.360 a family I think uh
01:51:57.300 physiologically the idea
01:51:59.220 that um you know a girl has
01:52:02.120 been what's what's your term
01:52:03.220 ran through uh I think uh if
01:52:06.120 she's beautiful enough he'll
01:52:07.720 look past that but it's never
01:52:09.620 something that's attractive uh
01:52:11.860 and I think the idea of him
01:52:13.540 being the only one that's only
01:52:15.640 going to ever add to the
01:52:16.900 situation um I do have a
01:52:19.040 question about your forum in
01:52:20.900 general if you ever discuss um
01:52:24.060 kind of the historical roots of
01:52:26.780 the effects of feminism and
01:52:28.480 where they come from because I I
01:52:31.400 I think a lot of you are very
01:52:32.940 topical so I understand but I
01:52:35.640 think if you trace it back to you
01:52:37.320 know the American Revolution the
01:52:38.700 French Revolution and even before
01:52:40.140 that it can be actually pretty
01:52:41.860 productive I know that might not
01:52:43.340 be what your goal is but uh I
01:52:45.600 think that would add to the
01:52:47.100 discussion and add to people's
01:52:48.280 understanding I appreciate yeah I
01:52:49.700 appreciate the suggestion um but
01:52:51.880 going back to the topic so we're
01:52:53.720 talking about virgins over a
01:52:55.480 certain age so that generally
01:52:59.560 there's something wrong with them
01:53:01.100 do you agree well it depends a lot
01:53:03.180 of people a lot of girls in
01:53:04.380 religious backgrounds like remember
01:53:05.800 the Duggars do you remember them
01:53:07.280 one of the oldest daughters who is
01:53:10.140 the Duggar she uh I think she
01:53:12.940 dated Tim Tebow or something and
01:53:15.280 some might say well maybe she was
01:53:16.660 too picky so there's that I mean
01:53:18.700 she could just be too picky I think
01:53:20.720 honestly though I think there's
01:53:23.480 going to have to become a come a
01:53:24.680 breaking point either
01:53:25.960 evolutionarily or the the the
01:53:28.820 countries with the court systems
01:53:30.520 like uh Russia and Iran and they're
01:53:33.180 becoming much more powerful
01:53:34.320 countries in part because of this I
01:53:35.980 think that don't have a family
01:53:38.020 court system that promotes
01:53:39.380 feminism so much people miss a lot
01:53:42.340 of times how you could take all the
01:53:44.640 propaganda and all the culture you
01:53:46.220 wanted if you think so Jana Duggar
01:53:48.560 got married at 34 are you really
01:53:51.480 believe she was a virgin really uh I
01:53:55.780 whether or not she was a virgin up
01:53:57.780 until her wedding day first of all I
01:53:59.140 think it's it's possible because I
01:54:00.780 think some women are um just that
01:54:03.840 way I'm sorry I gotta kick you I just
01:54:08.020 can't come on this night yeah man come
01:54:11.100 on come on man talk to men this
01:54:13.760 naive you know 34 please God didn't we
01:54:18.900 read an article didn't we on one of
01:54:21.300 std Fridays where like women
01:54:22.940 mormon girls are getting stds in their
01:54:25.400 armpits or something like that come on
01:54:27.060 you mean tell me she she hasn't blown a
01:54:29.700 couple of dudes or taking it come on man
01:54:31.880 are you serious you're a nice guy it's
01:54:34.420 nothing personal but there's just a
01:54:36.100 point where I just think there has to
01:54:38.860 be a certain and I'm not saying you're
01:54:42.220 dumb in other areas but like there has
01:54:45.400 to be a certain level of intelligence for
01:54:47.600 this conversation to be worth my time
01:54:49.540 understanding of yeah yeah you may be
01:54:52.800 smart and like your job or whatever but
01:54:54.800 they're just if you believe a 34 year old
01:54:57.640 virgin you just got bigger problems man
01:54:59.880 come on all right oh Mac hey how's it
01:55:08.420 going good how are you I'm fine okay so
01:55:12.480 what's your thought what is your
01:55:13.760 experience dating women that either are
01:55:16.700 virgins or claim to be if you disagree
01:55:19.240 with something I said feel free go ahead
01:55:21.640 I don't disagree with it I will talk
01:55:24.920 about the experience of a you know of a
01:55:27.300 family member of mine okay and he
01:55:30.740 basically asked my advice because this
01:55:32.900 was a woman she was definitely you know
01:55:35.960 she was a church girl she was part of the
01:55:38.460 holiness movement and she's about 33 or
01:55:41.460 33 or 34 years old and she very much
01:55:47.580 wanted to be his wife but she definitely
01:55:50.100 was saying no but she was a virgin now
01:55:53.980 definitely liked her very sweet girl but
01:55:58.400 she was like a four or five you know she
01:56:01.920 was okay and wait but the thing was at the
01:56:06.140 end of the day because of where she was in
01:56:10.740 her particular beliefs even though he was
01:56:13.080 in the church as well she was like there's
01:56:16.200 nothing at all that's gonna basically
01:56:17.580 happen until you know I mean we get
01:56:20.880 married and then to kind of shorten the
01:56:24.900 story the woman that wind up beating her
01:56:27.720 out already had a kid and was willing to
01:56:32.180 basically give it up and I kind of felt
01:56:36.900 bad for him but the fact is you know you
01:56:40.780 know when you're 34 or 35 years old and
01:56:44.320 you're single you're still a virgin yes
01:56:47.760 you're gonna be looked at as though
01:56:48.940 something is wrong something is wrong
01:56:52.140 yes a very nice um my woman but you know
01:56:56.620 it definitely put her into a position of
01:56:58.960 you're now past 30 you're not exactly in
01:57:03.060 total the best weight you're a little bit
01:57:05.760 overweight you know and you're saying
01:57:08.980 nothing is gonna happen until you get
01:57:11.360 married and that didn't work out for her
01:57:16.100 dang so sorry I know I've seen that
01:57:20.520 happen before because yeah it's too much
01:57:23.600 of a risk they don't even know if you're
01:57:25.420 gonna sleep with them after you're married
01:57:27.200 yeah yeah and it was you know and it was
01:57:29.680 just kind of one of those things of of um
01:57:32.880 you know she was willing to go only so far
01:57:36.700 because even when me and him would basically
01:57:38.540 talk and then I said well you understand
01:57:42.140 her beliefs either you go all in or not
01:57:45.480 and um now it was kind of funny when the
01:57:49.780 ex-girlfriend basically found out about
01:57:52.620 them you know um dating now mind you know
01:57:56.120 she was cuter you know light-skinned it
01:57:59.380 and body-wise you know similar but she was
01:58:03.720 definitely more pretty but she had a
01:58:05.420 complete nasty nasty attitude and I think
01:58:08.660 the only reason why she came back into
01:58:10.220 his life and to basically have sex with
01:58:13.000 him was because he was not gonna let her
01:58:15.200 the virgin win as crazy as that is
01:58:18.800 wow oh yeah yeah yeah it was and then
01:58:24.720 later when they you know and then of
01:58:26.620 course they wound up basically getting
01:58:27.960 married and she treated him like crap
01:58:29.740 of course there it is yeah she you know
01:58:33.380 hey hey look she was not gonna get beat
01:58:36.480 out by 34 35 year old virgin she was not
01:58:39.620 gonna get beat out and she married him and
01:58:41.980 she treated him like crap she treated him
01:58:45.460 like crap
01:58:45.980 sounds about right yeah yeah great story
01:58:51.420 thanks for calling in um you have any other
01:58:53.560 thoughts on the topic you want to go say
01:58:55.540 before you go well I mean look here's the
01:58:59.800 thing women need to be moving in a you
01:59:03.780 know in a proactive stance of saying hey
01:59:05.820 look I you know I want to be married if you
01:59:09.100 start getting past 30 32 33 and you're
01:59:12.780 still a virgin yes and particularly like in
01:59:15.280 a black community you will look that side
01:59:17.740 eye big time it's like what the heck is
01:59:20.080 wrong with her now I have a question
01:59:23.400 for both of you real fast at what point
01:59:26.760 because Pearl said that um a lot of
01:59:29.800 women who are virgins that's their
01:59:31.120 primary selling point um that because I
01:59:36.160 think a lot of those women they get so
01:59:38.540 obsessed with that selling point that
01:59:39.980 they don't know what else to offer a man
01:59:42.260 after you know besides that so it kind of
01:59:45.660 stunts their development they should be
01:59:47.520 focusing on what they can offer to a man
01:59:49.500 but they get so obsessed with their
01:59:50.880 virginity that they don't even know what to
01:59:52.480 offer a man once that's gone yeah I mean
01:59:55.020 I mean look if you're sitting there
01:59:56.880 saying I'm a virgin until marriage then
02:00:00.040 you need to be focusing on those things
02:00:02.380 that make you a wife that basically makes
02:00:05.480 your wife because to me the ones I've
02:00:07.940 seen and it's only been two about two or
02:00:09.720 three ever like in my life I've ever
02:00:11.280 seen they've always done well it's the
02:00:13.840 virginity you know it's like no no you're
02:00:16.760 you know you need to be moving in such a
02:00:19.320 way that you are a wife you're gonna
02:00:20.820 basically be looking to be a wife to this
02:00:23.360 man you're gonna be a benefit to this man
02:00:26.300 you're gonna be willing to have his
02:00:27.980 children
02:00:28.540 you know move you know move in that
02:00:32.440 direction versus it's the virginity and
02:00:35.200 that's the only thing that you got you
02:00:36.440 haven't worked on your attitude you
02:00:37.960 haven't worked on the way that you're at
02:00:39.380 I mean I mean it's often just like you
02:00:42.720 said there's a bunch of development
02:00:44.660 issues that are there character and
02:00:47.600 there you know you know because they
02:00:49.300 don't know how to work with a man
02:00:50.940 because they've always pushed men away
02:00:53.080 to quote-unquote protect you know the
02:00:56.280 virginity statement
02:00:57.320 yeah I agree
02:00:59.140 you know it's almost like Wagyu beef
02:01:01.380 you know like when they sell like you
02:01:03.800 know like Wagyu if it doesn't have that
02:01:07.080 Wagyu stamp then it goes down in price
02:01:09.280 well now you're older and you still want
02:01:12.160 to be stamped Wagyu
02:01:13.100 yep
02:01:14.600 that's crazy
02:01:16.120 you're cooking
02:01:17.040 that was great thanks for cooking today
02:01:19.920 you're cooking Wagyu
02:01:21.640 yeah you gotta teach these virgins how to
02:01:24.540 cook
02:01:24.880 yeah I mean I mean because it's just kind
02:01:27.200 of crazy it's like it's like okay
02:01:28.960 fine you're a virgin but where in
02:01:32.500 anything that you are doing that to
02:01:35.440 where one is going to make that man get
02:01:37.740 down on one knee and say will you marry
02:01:41.500 me and this is coming from a man I've
02:01:43.240 been married for 29 years and when I
02:01:46.700 basically mentor the men like the young
02:01:49.380 men around me I tell them all days look
02:01:52.740 for these you know look for these red
02:01:55.340 flags because you will see the red flags
02:01:58.160 if you pay attention because women will
02:02:01.400 tell on themselves if you allow them to
02:02:03.620 talk enough they will tell on
02:02:05.580 themselves so agreed you better call it
02:02:11.240 again okay
02:02:12.100 oh yeah I've called in before you know
02:02:14.380 um um you know um Pearl the last time we
02:02:17.380 talked was about it was about church women
02:02:19.920 and you asked me um what percentage was
02:02:22.880 actually white material and I said less
02:02:26.420 than 30 percent and you just kind of
02:02:28.760 laughed at it
02:02:29.600 okay we'll call it anytime all right
02:02:33.560 all right thanks everybody yeah
02:02:35.600 callers have been great I think the stream
02:02:39.280 labs change is good because everyone's
02:02:42.020 not having issues now I don't know what's
02:02:45.000 different on this from zoom but all right
02:02:48.080 we got ML
02:02:49.080 hello hey how's it going I'm going all
02:02:56.180 right so what are your thoughts on the
02:02:58.940 topic um do you think that women over a
02:03:01.800 certain age that are virgins have something
02:03:03.940 wrong with them or if you disagree with
02:03:06.540 anything I've said today you're welcome to
02:03:08.380 bring it up welcome to the show
02:03:09.740 I think for the most part yes there's
02:03:13.580 something wrong uh I have dated a girl
02:03:17.440 that was a virgin in her late 20s and
02:03:21.160 quite as far as I know still is at this
02:03:23.780 point in time and it was due to um
02:03:27.660 I would have to say parental death and
02:03:33.120 abandonment issues surrounding that
02:03:35.680 broadly speaking did you ever try to like
02:03:40.520 hook up with her and would she just oh
02:03:42.660 yeah yeah yeah no like we were hanging
02:03:44.280 around all the time I just even trying to
02:03:46.860 get a hug out of her was herculean at
02:03:48.900 times but then uh uh eventually I moved
02:03:52.580 away and I I popped back and forth uh from
02:03:56.520 the uh back to the city that uh we uh well
02:04:01.040 where she lives now where I used to live
02:04:03.340 and uh I still meet up with her check in
02:04:07.160 but uh it's just like I'm just like okay I
02:04:11.720 I like you as a friend but uh my thoughts
02:04:13.980 of you as a wife are long gone just too
02:04:18.900 many red flags too much too too much lack of
02:04:21.300 effort and it's just like all right you're
02:04:23.780 just a casual friend now
02:04:26.520 um how old is she now
02:04:30.000 um she would probably be
02:04:34.740 37 to 39 right now oh wow yeah because in my
02:04:41.420 experience the women that are really about
02:04:43.920 it they're done by 22
02:04:45.460 yeah I don't think she ever made that
02:04:48.120 community they go to college on a mission I
02:04:50.760 mean they might divorce at 42
02:04:52.340 yeah but they they get the kids you know
02:04:55.820 they get that ring they get the kids well she
02:04:58.640 took about a decade to get a four-year degree
02:05:00.560 like uh went part uh far as I know she didn't
02:05:05.300 fail she just did went very part-time yeah no
02:05:08.820 priority no urgency just hey I'm gonna hang
02:05:12.260 around my uh my little job here and live in my
02:05:14.480 little apartment and uh uh I'll knit and bake and do uh
02:05:18.860 other what would normally be seen as wifely tasks or wifely
02:05:23.540 things traditionally uh but not really going anywhere with it
02:05:28.960 yeah cool well thank you so much for calling in that was a great call so
02:05:34.960 call in anytime okay all right
02:05:37.180 it's a great show what do you think doug
02:05:42.440 yeah I like it that was a really good panel we have to have that panel on
02:05:47.700 again that was great so many different viewpoints
02:05:49.700 cooking okay guys um tomorrow for fun
02:05:54.400 uh because we're gonna do a panel show tomorrow
02:05:59.220 I mean I think it's gonna be a recurring Wednesday thing
02:06:02.040 um we're gonna start at nine because it seems like we might be able to get
02:06:09.200 um more panelists at that time I don't know if it's gonna be regularly at
02:06:15.080 nine um I'd rather not stay up that late but
02:06:19.040 if if we must do it I will so I I'd love feedback from you guys I
02:06:24.720 really want you guys to be involved in the process of as we like develop this
02:06:28.660 show um and we're moving into a bigger
02:06:32.360 studio soon so we're gonna have more capabilities in
02:06:37.300 the future we really just want to make this really good in the future so
02:06:40.280 um the more feedback we can get from you guys in the comments the better
02:06:44.420 um doug mpa you want um any final thoughts today
02:06:48.360 uh yeah guys this whole
02:06:51.980 I think there was a time where a woman being a virgin was valued
02:06:56.180 um it's just it's just not the same man you can't
02:07:00.140 like I said there's getting to know a woman to have sex
02:07:04.740 and then getting to know a woman after sex has happened for
02:07:07.760 relationship you can't wait until marriage to have sex with a woman you
02:07:12.660 you could be dooming yourself to five to seven years of torment and then she's
02:07:16.980 gonna leave you anyway you you have to have there's there are
02:07:20.220 comfortability levels so there's sleeping with the woman that's a
02:07:23.720 comfortability level moving in with the woman is another one like
02:07:27.060 you have if you choose to get married and let's face it guys a lot of us red
02:07:31.080 people are gonna don't get married don't have kids but in my lifetime the
02:07:34.520 majority of men are gonna get married right you choose to do so make sure you
02:07:39.180 sleep with the girl first and move in with the girl first and then meet your
02:07:42.780 family if you can but this whole um virginity has no predictor of future
02:07:48.460 success just because you're her first nine times out of ten you're not going to
02:07:53.480 be her last whether you may her or not
02:07:55.800 so i mean you know don't embrace the other side and bang a bunch of whores but
02:08:01.320 still like the whole virgin thing guys i mean come on
02:08:04.480 yeah the girls are crashing out in the chat but you guys
02:08:09.060 did not um call in so i know we had two sarahs
02:08:14.600 in the chat talking trash and none of them like yeah you guys call in
02:08:18.880 all right well not today though because i got i you know it's there's one more
02:08:24.440 super chat oh there's one more okay
02:08:26.320 my best friend married a 30 year old version and found out the hard way she
02:08:31.660 had mental health issues now he's getting divorced
02:08:33.900 yeah it's not really because you have to understand the best the most dateable
02:08:38.700 women have offers in every social group
02:08:41.940 so i mean am i yeah so anyways guys let me know what you think in the comments
02:08:50.300 thanks so much for tuning in thanks doug mpa um for coming as usual
02:08:54.500 um any final thoughts you want to say before i close out the show
02:08:58.100 nope i like this stream yard thing a lot better than zoom
02:09:01.860 yeah so much better all right thanks doug mpa um
02:09:05.780 all right guys thanks for watching i love you guys um and i'm telling you
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02:09:30.520 but it's either i have to stay monetized another six months
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02:09:44.360 bye
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