Why CRITICISM Is Not Men Thing
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the beauty standards in the beauty industry, and why men should not criticize a woman's looks without angering the internet. We also discuss the difference between virtue signaling and actual outcomes in society, and the role of virtue signaling in society.
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this week there was a tweet that erupted twitter all right this tweet had all the women mad
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on the right and the left it had the men mad and the tweet was um can you pull up the one
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the original one i sent you the the mark the brad pratt one so it had do you guys know who
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margot robbie is yes okay so there was a tweet that said despite years of complaining about
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unrealistic beauty standards the most talked about movie of the year is of two insanely hot people
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and it had a picture of barbie okay and margot robbie's the star and in barbie so but someone
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quote tweeted that and said margot robbie was cast in barbie explicitly because she wasn't pretty enough
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to alienate a female audience and this erupted twitter because they felt like they were just
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dogging on her looks they felt like um and then there was a a bunch of people who basically were
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calling margot robbie mid so my question to you is what would you rate margot robbie one to ten
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we're gonna show her picture in a second can you pull it up
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margot robbie one to ten in this photo or just in general in general in general i'd give her a 10
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but probably in this photo god you can tell there's just like so much post-production on it she doesn't
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actually look real but then she's not trying to just can you can you just google her too and we
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can just show some other pictures but like day to day i would say yeah she's a good solid nine nine
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nine ten nine ten what do you think i haven't seen her before but from what i'm looking at she looks
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okay um she's definitely someone the industry uses as like a beauty standard yeah
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eight point two five eight point two what do you think yeah she's a ten ten eight eight she's a strong
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nine nine yeah definitely okay but my question is this why can men not criticize a woman's looks
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are we going in order yeah anyone can just i would say because
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women's looks are known to be a important factor and something that they can often be sensitive about
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i think societally it's a little bit taboo to speak about and can come across offensive and you know as
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they say misogynistic so but if we but if we like criticize a guy's looks nobody cares like if i
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called leonardo dicaprio mid no one would care that's true you know what i mean but he's the one
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dating all the models but nobody would care yeah yeah i think it's because men uh society knows men
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personally don't put as much of as an emphasis on their own looks it's not as much of a factor um
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maybe in their confidence you could say that it's a little bit easier to to make fun of them versus
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women it's like be careful you don't want to hurt her feelings what do you guys think
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um me personally i feel like yeah females females in general are emotional beings i think that's
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fair to say and i don't feel like it's a man's place to even speak on um the looks or if they
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feel like a woman's like overly attractive especially on social media i think that's
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it's a bit of a low blow um so do women speak on if men are attractive on social media absolutely
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so why does one gender get to do it and not the other privilege yeah privilege definitely women
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privilege no but you're saying you but i'm asking you because you said you don't think
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men should comment on women's looks but i'm saying if the women are doing it why can't the men
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it's just it's taboo isn't it yeah yeah it's just like one of them it's like an unspoken rule
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but it shouldn't be what's what one rule for one and another rule for another it shouldn't be that way
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too like imagine have you ever heard like um short man syndrome yeah like what if what if they had
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small tits syndrome we can't do that you know what do you what do you think dimitri there's so much to
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unpack here i mean how deep do we want to dwell into this go go go deep oh man okay so this this is
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actually there's quite a lot of interesting stuff here so um i was reading some studies i'm doing a
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book called the book of shame where i'm literally putting together um 300 and sorry 403 no 304 304
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um putting together 304 studies that sort of outline the difference between virtue signaling and actual
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outcomes in society and one thing of course we all already know is that what we say and what we think
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are not the same thing one very basic example of that like i did a clip where it's like the most
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discriminated group when you look at across any group for like controlled for race and looks and
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age and everything the most discriminated group by far are short men and it's not close like short
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men have the highest suicide rates short rate men have the highest um rates of of drinking and binge
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drinking highest depression uh lowest income etc etc etc and i'm not saying that like short men can be
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successful i think they can and should be it's more so that we just know the outcomes for short men are
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terrible short men also are vastly underrepresented in the sexual marketplace like women are just not
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picking them in fact when you look at like the searches right this is just numbers like you look at
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on search on um what is it the dating app everybody's using nowadays bumble whatever
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oh women filter out yeah six under six foot tall to show up in less than 15 percent of searches so
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they don't even get they don't even get looked at i was thinking about that i'm like i if i was a
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short guy i would just lie on the dating apps i understand why they do it because i'm like women
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lie with the filters right lie with the makeup so i'm like if i was a guy i would lie out what make it even
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do it too right well and so so the question is like okay so then why do we make it taboo so there's
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there's a few steps here why it is so so um virtue signaling is actually like a very well-known mating
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tactic uh applied by both men and women the way that men virtue signal is they become more altruistic
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around women they perceive to be beautiful so when you have like a charity event men will give more
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money when a beautiful woman's in the room it's been tested it's been shown many many times over women
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virtue signal purity so women will drop hints that they're sexually pure despite the fact that they might tell
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you on this podcast like oh it doesn't matter how many guys you sleep with but but when you actually
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look at women's behavior and women's and and how they they express their behavior they always express
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their behavior as being sexually cleaner than their actual behavior this is not conjecture this is
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studied and this is true right so why not why not say about a woman blah blah blah well very simply
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uh because a woman's value is implicitly determined by how attractive she is to potential mates and the
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way that we know this there's a really cool study about this is they did a study on how good are
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women and men are perceiving the beauty of other women so they gave uh really yes and so and so what
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they found is men consistently pick the same women as being beautiful women are highly cognizant and
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extremely good at identifying which women are beautiful to other men and the women that are
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most beautiful to other men when they are in the room women become derogatory towards the most beautiful
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women wow yes because they want to undermine and what they do is they undermine her chastity and her
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purity she's like oh she's a slut she's this and that and the reason they're saying it is because they
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want to relative so women compete relatively with each other as well and so they undermine the sexual
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market value of other women in the room in order to elevate themselves she's hot she must be a whore
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right exactly so that's what we'll do right and by the way you never see guys do this right it's like
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oh that guy's a piece of crap like guys don't do that because it comes off as inherently feminine so
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guys don't compete like that we compete physically much more direct now here's what's interesting when
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men were asked to raid the attractiveness of other men men are notoriously bad at at at actualizing
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like which other men are attractive to women and it's very easy to prove because like i can talk
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to anush or any other guys here and say look guys have you ever seen a guy that consistently gets
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beautiful women and you're like how does he do that pete davidson right yeah like so we go like what
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the hell so men are actually very bad at perceiving the attractiveness of other men to women so we might
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we might think that guy's a loser but he's getting all the chicks like what's going on right well because
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is it because men are more logical no so like but like women we pick based off of emotions a lot of the time
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no it's no it's because well obviously that's true but also but but it's more so to do the fact
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that men compete on status so it's like so but the question is like so why can't we uh objectively
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say something about a woman and the answer is very clear and here it is it's because we all know
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like we look at margot robbie we can play the game like and she's a 7.8 it's like dude
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she's literally she played sharon tayton once upon a time in hollywood who was the standard of beauty for
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like two generations she's literally like you might say she's not your type whatever but objectively
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find a woman that's objectively more beautiful good luck you know you know what's interesting
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though i've found on this show that when i ask men versus women women will rate her higher than
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men do like i don't know why because i always thought she was like the epitome of beauty right
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but every time i've like brought her up as like the number one like beauty status do you have other
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do you have other women on the couch women um when men say that are other women around them
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yeah the men are virtue signaling no no but what they'll usually do is they'll bring up like the
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the most common one i got is the what is that preacher's wife i think she just divorced him
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um i cannot remember her name good yeah i get megan good a lot and i get um uh the russell wilson's
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wife now i get her a lot i like yeah i get those two more than margot robbie weirdly enough well look
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she might she there's different levels whatever but like objectively speaking oh yeah yeah like like
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she's she's like like you're not gonna oh i want better it's like okay so i wanted i wanted to
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read you some of the responses um towards towards them because i just i wasn't even interested like
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obviously she's hot right but i was more interested in how like viscerally everybody reacted because i was
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like if i said i don't think leonardo dicaprio's that hot i don't think michael b jordan's that hot like
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whatever like sex status of like the guy equivalent no one would really care but so i was thinking
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like i think women reacted so viscerally to this because if men don't perceive her as attractive
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like what does that make us that like the average chick you know what i mean so um there was like
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the guys would come in and said i want everybody who says margot robbie isn't attractive enough to
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play barbie to post photos of your wives and girlfriends i'm trying to see something exactly but
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but the thing is like i i think the question more is like because people will attack the people
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instead of the argument like is she admit or is she not mad and you could say objectively she's not
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but like what does a person's like girlfriend have to do with it listen i'm sorry for taking up some
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space here but like let's get serious like if somebody approached me in front of my wife and
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said how hot is margot robbie i would be incentivized to virtue signal well you know there's a lot of dudes
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out there that can't pick up eight or nine which is just how it is and it's fine it's okay like
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they're we're working on ourselves as men right and they virtue signal to say like well she's not even that
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hot it's like dude she's not picking you like show show some damn respect and just like live up to
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where you are and and and just say the truth you know unhinged take if you ever get it in your head
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that margot robbie isn't in the top five percent of conventionally attractive women log off go for a
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walk outside so say hello to a normal looking female return and correct yourself um and it was
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interesting i put i just i've been doing this before the show i put it in um google just the
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picture of her now i wish i did one without makeup but guess guess what her rating was can you guys see
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it don't look she can see it um but one to ten what do you think because they had like you basically
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basically put the picture in and then men rate her one to ten guess what that was like is she mid let's
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look guess guess what percent attractiveness she's in the sin yeah like top 10 top 20.
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yeah top 10. i would say yeah top 10 top 10 percent so they are chatting but but i was more curious about