JustPearlyThings - July 19, 2023


Why CRITICISM Is Not Men Thing


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Length

12 minutes

Words per minute

193.6234

Word count

2,498

Sentence count

4

Harmful content

Misogyny

32

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Hate speech

11

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss the beauty standards in the beauty industry, and why men should not criticize a woman's looks without angering the internet. We also discuss the difference between virtue signaling and actual outcomes in society, and the role of virtue signaling in society.

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00:00:00.240 this week there was a tweet that erupted twitter all right this tweet had all the women mad 1.00
00:00:07.200 on the right and the left it had the men mad and the tweet was um can you pull up the one
00:00:14.880 the original one i sent you the the mark the brad pratt one so it had do you guys know who
00:00:24.560 margot robbie is yes okay so there was a tweet that said despite years of complaining about
00:00:31.360 unrealistic beauty standards the most talked about movie of the year is of two insanely hot people
00:00:38.480 and it had a picture of barbie okay and margot robbie's the star and in barbie so but someone
00:00:45.760 quote tweeted that and said margot robbie was cast in barbie explicitly because she wasn't pretty enough
00:00:53.440 to alienate a female audience and this erupted twitter because they felt like they were just
00:01:02.480 dogging on her looks they felt like um and then there was a a bunch of people who basically were
00:01:10.000 calling margot robbie mid so my question to you is what would you rate margot robbie one to ten
00:01:16.560 we're gonna show her picture in a second can you pull it up
00:01:26.720 margot robbie one to ten in this photo or just in general in general in general i'd give her a 10
00:01:34.240 but probably in this photo god you can tell there's just like so much post-production on it she doesn't
00:01:40.400 actually look real but then she's not trying to just can you can you just google her too and we
00:01:44.480 can just show some other pictures but like day to day i would say yeah she's a good solid nine nine 1.00
00:01:51.120 nine ten nine ten what do you think i haven't seen her before but from what i'm looking at she looks 0.98
00:01:57.840 okay um she's definitely someone the industry uses as like a beauty standard yeah 1.00
00:02:02.880 i would say seven seven i'll give her like a 1.00
00:02:15.440 eight point two five eight point two what do you think yeah she's a ten ten eight eight she's a strong 0.98
00:02:22.080 nine nine yeah definitely okay but my question is this why can men not criticize a woman's looks
00:02:30.480 without erupting the internet
00:02:35.520 are we going in order yeah anyone can just i would say because
00:02:42.800 women's looks are known to be a important factor and something that they can often be sensitive about 1.00
00:02:48.960 i think societally it's a little bit taboo to speak about and can come across offensive and you know as
00:02:56.960 they say misogynistic so but if we but if we like criticize a guy's looks nobody cares like if i
00:03:02.640 called leonardo dicaprio mid no one would care that's true you know what i mean but he's the one
00:03:08.000 dating all the models but nobody would care yeah yeah i think it's because men uh society knows men
00:03:14.480 personally don't put as much of as an emphasis on their own looks it's not as much of a factor um
00:03:20.080 maybe in their confidence you could say that it's a little bit easier to to make fun of them versus
00:03:28.000 women it's like be careful you don't want to hurt her feelings what do you guys think
00:03:35.920 um me personally i feel like yeah females females in general are emotional beings i think that's 1.00
00:03:44.480 fair to say and i don't feel like it's a man's place to even speak on um the looks or if they
00:03:51.920 feel like a woman's like overly attractive especially on social media i think that's 1.00
00:03:55.680 it's a bit of a low blow um so do women speak on if men are attractive on social media absolutely 0.87
00:04:05.600 so why does one gender get to do it and not the other privilege yeah privilege definitely women 1.00
00:04:10.000 privilege no but you're saying you but i'm asking you because you said you don't think
00:04:14.080 men should comment on women's looks but i'm saying if the women are doing it why can't the men 1.00
00:04:20.080 it's just it's taboo isn't it yeah yeah it's just like one of them it's like an unspoken rule
00:04:26.960 but it shouldn't be what's what one rule for one and another rule for another it shouldn't be that way
00:04:34.240 too like imagine have you ever heard like um short man syndrome yeah like what if what if they had
00:04:40.720 small tits syndrome we can't do that you know what do you what do you think dimitri there's so much to
00:04:48.560 unpack here i mean how deep do we want to dwell into this go go go deep oh man okay so this this is
00:04:54.480 actually there's quite a lot of interesting stuff here so um i was reading some studies i'm doing a
00:04:58.080 book called the book of shame where i'm literally putting together um 300 and sorry 403 no 304 304
00:05:06.720 um putting together 304 studies that sort of outline the difference between virtue signaling and actual
00:05:12.400 outcomes in society and one thing of course we all already know is that what we say and what we think
00:05:16.720 are not the same thing one very basic example of that like i did a clip where it's like the most
00:05:21.520 discriminated group when you look at across any group for like controlled for race and looks and
00:05:26.080 age and everything the most discriminated group by far are short men and it's not close like short
00:05:30.640 men have the highest suicide rates short rate men have the highest um rates of of drinking and binge
00:05:36.000 drinking highest depression uh lowest income etc etc etc and i'm not saying that like short men can be
00:05:41.520 successful i think they can and should be it's more so that we just know the outcomes for short men are
00:05:46.320 terrible short men also are vastly underrepresented in the sexual marketplace like women are just not 1.00
00:05:50.160 picking them in fact when you look at like the searches right this is just numbers like you look at
00:05:54.000 on search on um what is it the dating app everybody's using nowadays bumble whatever
00:05:59.760 oh women filter out yeah six under six foot tall to show up in less than 15 percent of searches so 1.00
00:06:05.360 they don't even get they don't even get looked at i was thinking about that i'm like i if i was a
00:06:10.000 short guy i would just lie on the dating apps i understand why they do it because i'm like women 1.00
00:06:14.160 lie with the filters right lie with the makeup so i'm like if i was a guy i would lie out what make it even
00:06:20.320 do it too right well and so so the question is like okay so then why do we make it taboo so there's
00:06:25.280 there's a few steps here why it is so so um virtue signaling is actually like a very well-known mating
00:06:30.720 tactic uh applied by both men and women the way that men virtue signal is they become more altruistic
00:06:35.520 around women they perceive to be beautiful so when you have like a charity event men will give more
00:06:39.040 money when a beautiful woman's in the room it's been tested it's been shown many many times over women 1.00
00:06:43.680 virtue signal purity so women will drop hints that they're sexually pure despite the fact that they might tell 0.99
00:06:48.400 you on this podcast like oh it doesn't matter how many guys you sleep with but but when you actually
00:06:53.680 look at women's behavior and women's and and how they they express their behavior they always express 0.99
00:06:57.760 their behavior as being sexually cleaner than their actual behavior this is not conjecture this is
00:07:02.000 studied and this is true right so why not why not say about a woman blah blah blah well very simply
00:07:08.480 uh because a woman's value is implicitly determined by how attractive she is to potential mates and the 0.95
00:07:13.760 way that we know this there's a really cool study about this is they did a study on how good are
00:07:18.240 women and men are perceiving the beauty of other women so they gave uh really yes and so and so what
00:07:24.000 they found is men consistently pick the same women as being beautiful women are highly cognizant and
00:07:28.960 extremely good at identifying which women are beautiful to other men and the women that are
00:07:33.280 most beautiful to other men when they are in the room women become derogatory towards the most beautiful 1.00
00:07:38.320 women wow yes because they want to undermine and what they do is they undermine her chastity and her 1.00
00:07:43.040 purity she's like oh she's a slut she's this and that and the reason they're saying it is because they 1.00
00:07:47.040 want to relative so women compete relatively with each other as well and so they undermine the sexual 1.00
00:07:51.360 market value of other women in the room in order to elevate themselves she's hot she must be a whore 1.00
00:07:56.160 right exactly so that's what we'll do right and by the way you never see guys do this right it's like
00:07:59.920 oh that guy's a piece of crap like guys don't do that because it comes off as inherently feminine so
00:08:03.440 guys don't compete like that we compete physically much more direct now here's what's interesting when
00:08:07.680 men were asked to raid the attractiveness of other men men are notoriously bad at at at actualizing
00:08:14.080 like which other men are attractive to women and it's very easy to prove because like i can talk
00:08:18.480 to anush or any other guys here and say look guys have you ever seen a guy that consistently gets
00:08:22.000 beautiful women and you're like how does he do that pete davidson right yeah like so we go like what 1.00
00:08:27.440 the hell so men are actually very bad at perceiving the attractiveness of other men to women so we might
00:08:32.240 we might think that guy's a loser but he's getting all the chicks like what's going on right well because 0.93
00:08:36.240 is it because men are more logical no so like but like women we pick based off of emotions a lot of the time 0.91
00:08:42.720 no it's no it's because well obviously that's true but also but but it's more so to do the fact
00:08:47.120 that men compete on status so it's like so but the question is like so why can't we uh objectively
00:08:51.760 say something about a woman and the answer is very clear and here it is it's because we all know
00:08:56.480 like we look at margot robbie we can play the game like and she's a 7.8 it's like dude
00:09:00.480 she's literally she played sharon tayton once upon a time in hollywood who was the standard of beauty for 0.97
00:09:04.560 like two generations she's literally like you might say she's not your type whatever but objectively
00:09:09.840 find a woman that's objectively more beautiful good luck you know you know what's interesting
00:09:13.760 though i've found on this show that when i ask men versus women women will rate her higher than
00:09:19.360 men do like i don't know why because i always thought she was like the epitome of beauty right 1.00
00:09:24.160 but every time i've like brought her up as like the number one like beauty status do you have other
00:09:28.240 do you have other women on the couch women um when men say that are other women around them 1.00
00:09:32.720 yeah the men are virtue signaling no no but what they'll usually do is they'll bring up like the
00:09:36.800 the most common one i got is the what is that preacher's wife i think she just divorced him
00:09:42.080 um i cannot remember her name good yeah i get megan good a lot and i get um uh the russell wilson's
00:09:52.320 wife now i get her a lot i like yeah i get those two more than margot robbie weirdly enough well look
00:09:58.720 she might she there's different levels whatever but like objectively speaking oh yeah yeah like like
00:10:03.120 she's she's like like you're not gonna oh i want better it's like okay so i wanted i wanted to
00:10:08.480 read you some of the responses um towards towards them because i just i wasn't even interested like
00:10:15.600 obviously she's hot right but i was more interested in how like viscerally everybody reacted because i was
00:10:21.360 like if i said i don't think leonardo dicaprio's that hot i don't think michael b jordan's that hot like
00:10:27.120 whatever like sex status of like the guy equivalent no one would really care but so i was thinking
00:10:32.960 like i think women reacted so viscerally to this because if men don't perceive her as attractive 1.00
00:10:37.680 like what does that make us that like the average chick you know what i mean so um there was like
00:10:45.440 the guys would come in and said i want everybody who says margot robbie isn't attractive enough to 1.00
00:10:50.080 play barbie to post photos of your wives and girlfriends i'm trying to see something exactly but
00:10:55.760 but the thing is like i i think the question more is like because people will attack the people
00:11:00.400 instead of the argument like is she admit or is she not mad and you could say objectively she's not
00:11:04.720 but like what does a person's like girlfriend have to do with it listen i'm sorry for taking up some
00:11:08.960 space here but like let's get serious like if somebody approached me in front of my wife and
00:11:13.040 said how hot is margot robbie i would be incentivized to virtue signal well you know there's a lot of dudes
00:11:17.920 out there that can't pick up eight or nine which is just how it is and it's fine it's okay like
00:11:21.280 they're we're working on ourselves as men right and they virtue signal to say like well she's not even that
00:11:26.000 hot it's like dude she's not picking you like show show some damn respect and just like live up to 1.00
00:11:30.720 where you are and and and just say the truth you know unhinged take if you ever get it in your head
00:11:36.000 that margot robbie isn't in the top five percent of conventionally attractive women log off go for a 1.00
00:11:42.080 walk outside so say hello to a normal looking female return and correct yourself um and it was 1.00
00:11:50.080 interesting i put i just i've been doing this before the show i put it in um google just the
00:11:56.000 picture of her now i wish i did one without makeup but guess guess what her rating was can you guys see
00:12:02.800 it don't look she can see it um but one to ten what do you think because they had like you basically
00:12:08.560 basically put the picture in and then men rate her one to ten guess what that was like is she mid let's 1.00
00:12:14.000 look guess guess what percent attractiveness she's in the sin yeah like top 10 top 20. 1.00
00:12:23.200 yeah top 10. i would say yeah top 10 top 10 percent so they are chatting but but i was more curious about
00:12:30.880 about the reaction
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