JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


Woke Woman Advises Pearl To Be WOKE

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9 minutes

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2,014

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Misogyny

6

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Toxicity

3

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9

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss transphobia, censorship, and the transphobic treatment of trans women in sports and society. We also discuss the importance of having a safe space for trans people to speak freely and openly about their opinions.

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00:00:00.000 thing is true i'm just saying so it's not necessarily that you're wrong or that you
00:00:04.080 need to change your language i'm saying if you want to win a fight and not necessarily just get
00:00:09.120 kicked out of the volleyball league or kicked out of this or that you have to adopt the way that
00:00:13.760 other people are thinking or they're just going to completely disregard disregard you and you might
00:00:18.320 see that as being really unfair but the world is you have to adapt to the way that other people are
00:00:24.880 being so that you can play them at their game and if you don't do that they just don't care and
00:00:31.200 they're not going to engage with you they're going to get rid of you and to be fair calling a trans 0.98
00:00:35.680 woman a man is kind of transphobic i kind of i get like it is um but they are they're a biological 0.98
00:00:44.000 man but they've transitioned to a trans woman i think it's fine to call them a trans and and you 0.80
00:00:48.800 know in in personal relationships like i mean i i'm not going to call someone their opposite
00:00:54.480 pronoun like when i meet them yeah when you know them yeah but but i'm but i'm saying like i can't
00:00:59.440 tweet that i don't want men in our locker rooms i can't tweet that i don't want men in our sport
00:01:04.640 but you could i can't i don't want transgender women in my locker room but what what i'm saying
00:01:08.800 is true though and there shouldn't even be like a but you could phrase it like that like
00:01:13.120 why do we have to change our speech when we're talking about things that are true it's because even
00:01:17.360 if you don't think that trans women are women they're also not really men anymore either so they're 0.97
00:01:22.960 kind of they're their own thing like and they're under the umbrella so i see women as an umbrella 1.00
00:01:29.360 term okay so like cis women are there but trans women are under this umbrella and i do think that
00:01:34.800 they are a particular class they they suffer from a lot of things that we do some to a worse extent
00:01:41.600 like the the rate of death for black trans women is really bad especially in america like they do 1.00
00:01:48.240 suffer a lot and i do appreciate these things have you seen the rate of death of men uh death of men
00:01:55.600 yes by other men no just the rate of death of men because i just think the problem the real problem
00:02:01.520 this whole thing is the censorship i think if i was talking about murder rather than no no i i get but i
00:02:08.640 just think the real problem is censorship i think trans women trans people should be allowed to do 0.99
00:02:13.440 whatever they want but you can't censor other people's opinions no you can't yeah that's wrong
00:02:19.280 i'm not saying that paul should be censored i'm saying that if she wants to win but that's basically
00:02:23.760 what the policies and society is doing they're censoring people even from what you're saying the
00:02:29.280 way you've been saying like well you should phrase it different why can't we just say it how we want
00:02:33.840 to say you can say it but you just need to be aware that you may cause offense and if you're happy to
00:02:37.680 do that and happy to receive the backlash after what you said then that's fine i don't care i don't
00:02:41.600 care about offense people can be offended my issue is when i'm i'm now getting kicked out of a league
00:02:47.600 and now i'm getting other repercussions because i said something that's true because some people might
00:02:52.080 want to might not want to endorse you so some some organizations might not want to endorse you
00:02:56.800 knowing that you have yeah and i and i and i think and i think that's wrong and the same way even even if
00:03:02.400 someone if someone was a super far leftist like if you you played on my you know maybe you're kind
00:03:07.680 of left but like on my volleyball league like i think it's wrong that they be they cannot play
00:03:12.400 because of an opinion i mean i agree i mean like i do music and i think that you know within the art
00:03:17.920 the art the artistry world and all of that stuff you know people want you to have like a certain type
00:03:22.160 of personality and be super friendly and all that stuff and kind of being nonchalant and and and private
00:03:27.520 doesn't really get people anywhere so i i agree that you know certain things should be separated
00:03:33.600 you know you should separate who an individual is to what they do because sometimes in my opinion some
00:03:39.600 of the some of the most magnificent people are weird and that's what makes them so magnificent
00:03:47.040 because they're different they're a little bit strange to some people you know and i think it's okay
00:03:52.320 for everyone to have an opinion it's okay for everyone to speak about their opinion you know these debates
00:03:56.880 are good you know it spreads awareness it spreads knowledge but we have to also be aware that
00:04:01.760 sometimes we're going to cause offense you know i mean to some people yeah i don't care not just that
00:04:07.200 don't agree with us but it's the way in which we we word things it's the way in which we say things you
00:04:12.560 know we can put on like like you said we can put our opinions across in a way that doesn't cause
00:04:18.320 offense people will listen to me like you only really get to pick offensive or actually productive
00:04:24.160 you can't really do both and it's fine if you want to say things the way we can't we can't
00:04:29.040 wait wait our only two options are offensive and productive if you don't seem reasonable to the
00:04:33.680 other party then oh yeah but i can't help how i seem like i can't help their feelings and and at the
00:04:39.120 end of the day it's like if we're talking about things that are true they're true and i can't help
00:04:43.440 i can't help i can't help someone else feels about a fact about something that is true that's fine and
00:04:48.880 it's not necessarily about feelings but it's like enough of the population has agreed on a
00:04:54.880 let's just say societal whatever no i think it's a small percentage of the population that's pushing
00:05:01.520 the societal you're engaging with that small percentage of the population and they're in
00:05:06.240 charge of governing bodies that affect your sport well and that's the issue in the middle and and the
00:05:12.160 issue is is that they get in charge of these organizations when i was interviewing girls at the
00:05:16.080 tournament a lot of people didn't agree with it a lot of people were against it but they can't say
00:05:20.640 anything because of these yeah because of these yeah because of the governing bodies so it's like
00:05:26.480 i can't even speak out that i don't want them in my sports i mean and if i'm being honest and no but
00:05:31.840 the the issue is like this language i'm sorry it's so confusing no but to the average person cis trans i'm
00:05:38.320 sorry i'm not even trying to be rude it's confusing like like gender fluid they're added in all these
00:05:44.720 words gender fluid because of what not binary i don't know what any of this means anymore it's
00:05:50.080 because of what you say no but then there's then there's there's non-binary gender fluid all this 0.59
00:05:57.920 shit's confusing to me biological women doesn't really matter that much it doesn't but what if 1.00
00:06:03.680 you're calling aside from it just being confusing because we do need to differentiate you do it's 0.95
00:06:09.120 because of what you're saying you want to you want to differentiate you know it goes back to what
00:06:13.600 you said no you want to be a woman a woman a woman a man that's born a man a man and then if you've
00:06:20.560 transitioned you're called a trans woman or no no i don't want new language i just want to keep
00:06:25.440 otherwise you can't but what you want i want the same language we've used for the last 500 years
00:06:31.920 no no okay transgender has existed for how many decades come on at the end of like even when it comes 1.00
00:06:39.280 so it's new right in the 80s from a historical point of view it's not new it's only in regards of
00:06:45.520 like what we can do with surgery so ancient greece ancient greece had trans people everywhere
00:06:51.680 do you know what you know how much of how many of us in here how much of how many of us in here
00:06:59.280 there have been trans people people that don't conform to a single gender across the board i mean
00:07:04.160 i just i i i'm you might be right but just because it's not necessarily in societal terms or even like
00:07:10.080 now like if you think even about being um like homosexual for example quite like homosexuality pretty
00:07:16.560 much got eradicated from from society it was only seen underground because well for one colonial laws
00:07:24.160 made the homosexual homosexual behavior illegal but it took a long long time for gay people to come 1.00
00:07:30.960 out of the woodwork still is illegal some places exactly there are some there are certain people
00:07:35.680 like for example there's like a whole um pretty much a whole generation of like gay men that just
00:07:40.960 aren't talked about because that was before before it was legal when being gay could still land you in
00:07:46.960 jail okay but what's your what's your what's your like trans people trans people were pretty much
00:07:52.240 eradicated from the forefront of society but it doesn't mean they weren't there it means that you
00:07:56.480 may not have seen them they may not have been discussed it doesn't mean they weren't we can't
00:08:00.560 we can't prove they were common either we can't really prove a lot of stuff about
00:08:04.800 their conception exceptions but it's not really i feel like the only difference is we used to call
00:08:09.280 them transsexuals rather than transgender but that like the rocky horror show or they were just they 1.00
00:08:13.600 they were just that one yeah that no one really spoke about they were just part of society it is
00:08:18.720 older than all of us in the room so we should take that into consideration but like but across the
00:08:22.880 board this is a new thing like it's the last hundred years it's been there since we were alive adam and eve
00:08:29.680 it was there i guess when did it come it's it's new in a sense where it's been getting more exposure
00:08:34.400 you know it's more talked about more people are doing it you know and and in that regard but i
00:08:38.400 think that's necessary you know i think people need to be more aware of these things i think the
00:08:43.120 movement that black people had the movement that women had the movement that gay people had the
00:08:47.440 movement that you know no i want to take back the women's movement any type of i want to take it back 1.00
00:08:52.160 what you don't want to work well you know i mean i just want you to be able to advocate for what
00:08:58.080 you believe in but actually get somewhere if you don't start to adopt at least some of the language
00:09:02.560 you're not going to get anywhere they're not going to listen i just think like why should i be forced
00:09:07.280 to learn this what do you want to win do you want to get somewhere or do you just want to insult people
00:09:11.520 because you can't do it i i i don't think it's insulting to say that i don't well again i feel like
00:09:17.440 a lot of things are insulting that's what women do we feel like everything's insulting so it's like 1.00
00:09:22.720 you know we can't base facts off of our