Woke Woman And Trans Woman Try To Rationalize This
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Summary
Trans people have been part of society for a long time and have always been treated with respect in society. They ve always had equal access to education, medical care and social services. However, in the past few years, there s been a growing number of trans women who have been forced to live in the delusion that they re not allowed to use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender identity. In this episode, we discuss the issues that trans women face in society and how we should deal with them.
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when you say not always that's like a very small percentage i think the vast majority you can
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because of the access to care no it's so the access to surgery how many people like trans
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people have you guys no but not everyone has access to surgery it's so expensive exactly
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it's so expensive well and the point is to make somebody acceptably trans for you for society they
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have to go through all these surgeries is that what you're saying it's not it's crazy i'm not
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saying i'm not i'm saying by identifying i'm not talking about acceptance no i mean i just don't
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think if they're stealth then they can go into the toilet right so if you don't if you don't
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realize that they're not about i just don't think it's like because you're not because you're not
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you're not on edge because they don't have an adam's apple no i just i just think it's like why do i
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have to agree to the delusion like you're not it doesn't make you the opposite gender because you
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dress like it and get some surgery some people aren't necessarily even trying to access that
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they're not even trying to be cisgender some people are not trying to be like their cis counterparts
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some people are just trying to make the outside match the inside and that doesn't necessarily mean
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that they will claim that they are cisgender it doesn't it doesn't mean that they want to
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necessarily be cisgender it just means that they actually feels mad uncomfortable with a beard they
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feel mad uncomfortable with the fact that they've got you know leg hair they've got they're uncomfortable
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with their genitalia and they don't like it then it doesn't match them but then if they decide to
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to to to alter the outside or to start you know changing how they look and making themselves feel
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pretty the way that they feel that they should then they can't go into a men's toilet safely i kind of
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want to steal man pearl a little bit because i i want to say the majority of trans women don't think
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they're cis women but there are some people that are delusional and do push it to a point so it's like
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we can't just but i'm saying it's like i want to trans women are women but they're not cis women right
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but i'm saying when when you're forcing us to accept them as women and treat them as women
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then it's like you're forcing me to live in the delusion when i can see you're clearly not so like
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when i'm forced to play with them now i have to you know and i don't even get a choice in this like now i
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have to succumb to their delusion even in the locker room because i go into the locker room now i have
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to now i have to pretend that they're supposed to be there now i have to go to the bathrooms and
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pretend people have been pretending like trans people don't exist where i didn't say they don't
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they they clearly exist but trans people have been a part of society for for like well since time again
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but the issue the issue but the issue we get to is that if we don't if we don't give a hard line then
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later there will be consequences and that's what you see with the with the um the men going into
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female prisons and they and they get raped there's a couple cases in california that just happened in
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we already so in england we've already prepped for that so we have a transgender wing too but we have
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the same problem we did have a transgender woman rape a woman because that was really stupid because
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she wasn't like she wasn't post-op or anything was really dumb i i feel like there are some situations
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but people just turn their brains off but my problem is like if like that's why i just think
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we make it simple biological men biological women because when you start when you start getting into
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all these when you get into all these exceptions like then there are people that are faced consequences
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and usually it's not you it's someone else yeah i do think the transgender wing was important because
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it's obviously is keeping trans women safe from men but it's also keeping you know cis women safe so i think
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that was a good but that is an example of a compromise right we didn't just throw the trans
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women in with the men no but i would i would i would i would compromises work sometimes but also like in
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society i would just keep it men women there would be no trans you're a black and white thinker this
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this makes your brain smooth i like black and white thinking too so i i understand can i just say
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it's not about thinking black and white it's just you know how some people well i was raised to think
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that if i'm a woman i go into the woman's bathroom i have brothers when they go toilet they go to the
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men's bathroom but at home you use the same toilet at home we use the same toilet because we are
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friends because we are family and because we are friends because we are family and because we are
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friends what was the last thing you said you go to a house party when you're meeting people that you
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don't know but you're still using the same toilet right yes 100 you survive them proud of you yeah no
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but you don't but at a house party i would go at a house party i would go with the girls and you
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talk in the bathroom i would not bring a guy to do that and you know it's different like
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we go we go into it it is an experience you know that you know i'm enjoying this because i'm not the
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most most woke person here i'm kind of in the middle it's great it's great i enjoy it but um when it
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comes to some bathrooms specifically um i don't want to disregard how anxious and scared women often feel
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in general like if you don't know somewhere where you're going in your art in public you're always
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kind of on edge and society kind of pushes you to be this way because if you're not on edge and
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constantly have your guard up you're often blamed for things that are bad that happen to you so you're
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either constantly anxious or constantly not paying attention and then blamed for the bad things that
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happen to you and that's not trans women's fault but it's something we should take into consideration
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just the experience of being a cis woman again women both both women we are protected classes and
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whilst we have some similarities we are also different we're like two circles that partly
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overlap but don't completely overlap and it's important not to just completely discredit these
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differences um okay so where do we land on bathrooms so you guys bathrooms i think it should be fine
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fine fine i really just want to get it all right who says no i mean i just want hands they have to get
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their own unit okay half and half i mean own units is good like i just keep everything unisex put a
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camera outside the cubicle everyone's going to be unisex it's like a unisex cubicle you can just have
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cubicle cubicle cubicle cubicle camera it's not that deep like i just don't understand why i don't
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want to see you know i'm sorry i'm sorry you can still have your chat in front of the mirror
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the mirror will still be there for you there will just be a camera watching you have your chat doing
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your makeup so that everyone is safe when you walk in and how about that no because then again it's
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like we have to make all these exceptions for like one percent of the population everyone should like it
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so if it's only one percent of the population like i just think that we're where these people um you
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know we are a what's the words uh when something's like a small amount of you know i'm saying that it's
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such a small percentage i just don't see how like it's it's going to be an issue you know for these
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these type of people because it's not an issue till it becomes an issue there's so there's such a small
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percentage you said just one percent like if there was there's one percent of millionaires
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okay if there was yeah but that's different because you know that's that's not a league
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that's not like a league that's just people's successes and stuff but if you're trying to put
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people together in terms of like leagues of sports and things like that it's going to be difficult
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with just one percent to form a whole league of just one gender of people and the more we're
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speaking about it the more i'm starting to see that it wouldn't be a bad thing you know it genuinely
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would not be a bad thing to have a separate but then there would need to be a more
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uh neat like more more amounts of people like let's say for example female football female
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football you know 30 years ago didn't really exist i i don't know how correct that is but i'm just
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kind of giving an estimate but as time progresses it's getting more watched it's getting more
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appreciated more people are going towards it but initially there wasn't enough women playing football
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for there to be a league and i think with transgender people the more transgender people that come forward
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and say you know what i'd like to play a sport and and face these type of difficulties of prejudice
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and whether it's prejudice or just you know technical whatever it is i just think they can
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create this league you know i think in life you know we've kind of said that we shouldn't be excluded
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from anything and i think some things yeah people should be excluded from like for example i don't really
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think women um like we don't play football i mean not not really it's not really it's like it's a very
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fringe right so we can but we can talk about like in the normal school the normal college you're not
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going to go on and find a football team right and you know maybe there's special colleges that do that
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on occasion when there's a high population of women that want to play but the rule is there's no football
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league when it comes to sports i think it's rather than no but i'm saying the same thing with the bathrooms
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like okay if there's a ton in one area fine but like demanding that there's bathrooms in all these
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locations when we could just go by biological sex it's easier yeah but you don't okay so biological
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sex you see someone walk into the movement's toilet with a beard yeah you can't give them a little side
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eye yeah it's gonna be if i walk into the women's if you walk into the women's toilet and you see
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somebody walking behind you and walking with a beard and a penis you can't give them side eye because
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there will be but i mean if we're gonna be honest i'd rather neither i'd rather neither but you know but we
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we gotta go to biology these people exist and i think biologically it wouldn't work that way
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unless unless people continue to use the the bathrooms of the gender that they've that they
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are claiming yeah or that they were assigned at birth or that they were assigned at birth
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it's either that or like you say you know they they make a special bathroom for transgender people
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because this idea of a a transgender woman with a beard going into a woman's toilet or a transgender
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man with breasts going into men's toilet is just absolutely crazy i mean it doesn't make any sense
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i think it's crazier than someone with male parts going into a woman's bathroom i think that's way
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crazier i would take someone with a beard over like i would i would take a beard over a dick