Woke Woman Denies This FACT
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss trans people playing in sports of the opposite gender, as well as trans women playing in women's sports. We discuss the pros and cons of trans people being allowed to play in sports, the benefits and disadvantages of hormones in different sports, and how trans people should be integrated into them.
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um so what are you guys's opinions on trans people playing in sports of the opposite or like
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trans women playing in women's sports go ahead i feel like it's something that cannot be
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generalized i feel like every sport is different every um yeah every sport has a different skill
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set every sport has different levels of contact um different different aspects that you need
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that could either benefit or not be benefited by the use of like hormones so i think i think
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personally it's it's something yeah it's something that can't be generalized and it's something that
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has to be seen as like a sort of like subject by subject situation or matter okay would you what
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about for volleyball that was the example i used volleyball see i mean it depends on how much
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depth you want to go into i mean i don't know volleyball to a certain extent i can imagine
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that you know if if for example you've got um someone who is female to male and they're taking
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testosterone and they're playing with um like cis women you could you could complete you could
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comment on the fact that testosterone allows like um like muscle muscle build quicker or like you know
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therefore they might get like a harder a harder spike for example but then i know some insanely
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strong cis women so does that really take things like into another dimension in the game i don't know
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to be honest so i don't think there's been enough research or enough um yeah i don't i don't think
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there's been enough of a look into it okay so for the time being what do you think they should do
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should we integrate or should we keep them separate well as far as volleyball goes yeah
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volleyball's women's and men's sports in general again i can't i can't say okay you don't know your
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answer could be i don't know yeah it can't be generalized in my idea in my opinion okay go ahead
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you're okay well the problem is i can talk a lot and i don't want to like drown these guys out but i can
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go now if you want yeah should i let the others speak i don't know because i can talk for a lot
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it's up to you you know either go or don't go so i almost have a similar opinion to you it does
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depend on the sport and the governing body um but there are a number of things that i would do
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probably differently because testosterone isn't the only thing we should be taking into account
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depending on the sport especially because there are a number of differences between men and women
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that aren't changed just by taking hormones um for example men have more type 2 muscle fibers and
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women have more type 1 type 2 is more for bursts of strength and type 1 is for endurance so women are
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better in endurance men are better at like running really fast so an obvious example of where i think
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it may end up being unfair would maybe be with sprinting um but the longer the distance the running
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the more fair it becomes um with volleyball volleyball is really difficult and i played a lot of team
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sports when i was a kid not volleyball i played netball which is the girl bad version of basketball
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and rounders which is the bad girl version of um baseball it's really english bad sports they kind of suck
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i don't know why they make us do those but i will say so assuming we're talking like at school level
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so like before anyone's really had time to transition or do much i played with boys in rounders and it was
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not fun they hit the ball for like 10 times further and then i'm out there in like the depth of field
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running after the damn balls for like most of the game so i will say like there are issues with it um
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it kind of depends on what level which game and how you're integrating people um i am an advocate
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for not throwing the baby out with the bath water so i think it can work but i don't know if it's
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working right now okay yeah what do you think yeah i mean i think that they should just be able to play
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to be honest i mean even with people who are born a certain way there's people that are better at
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doing things than others that's just how it goes i mean i understand that uh mainly for men who
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transition into women i think i understand what they're saying sometimes for example you know
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if it was to say like boxing you know um a person who was born a man and then transition into a woman
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maybe later on in life fully developed into puberty and then decides to get into a ring with a woman
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who was born a woman i think that might be a bit techie but i think the whole point of transitioning is
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to be who you feel you are and if you've got an interest in if you have an interest and a passion
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in sport i don't think you shouldn't be allowed to play that sport because you've decided to transition
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i understand how it can be unfair with physically but it comes with it you know it comes with it i think
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so i just think that what do you think because i just don't think it's fair um even if we just take
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things like height like i'm in the top one percent of height for females and i was like short when it
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came to getting recruited for colleges like if we brought men in there i'd be in the top 15 percent
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and like i really wouldn't have any opportunity if men were you know even if it's like trans women
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like after they transition the height stays the same yeah i think usually like for example with my
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previous example with boxing there's usually like weight classes so with boxing it's probably like
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yeah a little bit okay because you'd be matched fairly but um like you said about um running
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i'm not too sure i don't know that information about um i think you said sorry what did you say
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like sprinting t1 t2 you want it yeah twitch muscle fibers so men and women tend to have a different
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percentage of both but why don't why do because why do men win in marathons then um so when i say
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endurance i'm talking like ultra endurance is where men and women tend to be well they compete
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together and women win often like it's about 50 50 who's winning but ultra that's like a very fringe
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small it's not fringe but it is crazy because i mean when you're doing these types of ultra endurance
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swimming there's a decent chance of death like somebody just died recently trying to swim the channel
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crossing so it's not so much have you seen those people that go off of niagara falls
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yeah i mean it's difficult that i think it's manhattan island swimming and british isle
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right but my point is in general men are faster definitely faster so if you as i said sprinting that
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counts for short distance well but even with marathons men are still faster i mean there might be like
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a fringe ultra marathon but that's like ultra endurance is definitely longer than a regular
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marathon yeah right but i'm saying more people compete in a marathon and you said it's still 50 50
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for ultra and i just can't imagine that's that popular of a sport like it's very hard obviously a
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lot of people don't want to do it because it's as difficult as it is clearly i could i did a marathon
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it was the worst day of my life my mom was a long distance runner as well i have no chance
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it's uh it's a tough one um but it just becomes so men would have the disadvantage because they don't
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have the same muscle fibers as women so when they transition they don't have the advantage within that
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endurance necessarily and assuming that there is some negative impact to certain things when they're
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taking estrogen and some somewhat i think it's fine for endurance sports so what about what about
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marathons you'd make it um so there are a number of sports there are some where i'm sure it's fine
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there are some where i'm fairly sure it's not fine and then there's some in the middle where i think
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we need more research done like i'm not going to say no or yes to the ones in the middle because um
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yeah i'm not sure i do think that we need to study more less just reduction of testosterone
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and more the other things that make men you know stronger in various ways like lung capacity and
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height to a point so oh it's it's super important because i played basketball and volleyball it's
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super important for volleyball and basketball it is super important but there's a bunch of sports
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where height either doesn't matter or being shorter is actually beneficial so that's why i say it does
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depend on sport but i think for the sports where height does matter it is important to
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it might just be that we have to cap trans women like you can compete but only if you're under
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the height of the tallest women that can compete right because then you're not like four or five
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inches taller than they are or something it's it's it's hard and i and i can appreciate that you're
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in a difficult position with that yeah but even if they're the same height it's like they're stronger
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than us in general yeah because i was just team sports it's really difficult like like how many
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people are there on a volleyball six six five for basketball yeah so it's like quite impactful if he
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has yeah team sports are the thing that i have the least amount of um experience with too so i don't
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want to speak well my my thing is like if we're going to title it women's sports and men's sports i think
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it's like misleading if we go to a tournament expecting it to be women and there's there's trans
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people there you know like because because then it's like i didn't agree to that like i agreed to
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to play in the way like because that's why i was pissed off this weekend because it was like these
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like one one of the teams would just set the trans trans woman every single time and it's like and one
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other team had had four or five and i'm like i just don't think that's really yeah yeah it was philippines
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in brazil it was called all nations so it's like from different philippines in brazil must just yeah