Woman Claims That Having Kids Is SELFISH
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of having a child out of wedlock vs. having a relationship with a partner. We discuss the pros and cons of choosing to have a child on your own, what it's like being a single mother and what it means to raise a child without a partner or a father figure.
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okay so going back to jennifer aniston would you guys consider having a child by yourself
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if you couldn't find a partner absolutely not no no okay
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no because i want my child to have a father figure okay what about you certainly reason i
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want to give my child the best opportunity so okay i think i think it's quite obvious i don't
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want children okay okay in the back no i wouldn't no well i have a child um by myself but um i wouldn't
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do it again i wait until i'm married okay um what made you guys say that why wouldn't you
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because a lot of people are considering ivf nowadays and having a child on their own
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yeah i just think when i look at my own life i feel like it would have been completely different
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without a father figure and i think as much as big up to like single moms and stuff they want to
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give that to their child i think there are certain qualities as a woman that you can't give a child
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because you're not a man and i feel like with for example when you get into puberty and stuff
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as a child you have very different convos with your mom than you have with your dad and you take away
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things from both of them and i feel like that's irreplaceable you can't give the same advice as a
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woman because you simply don't have the same brain as a man so yeah what about you guys mine um is just
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from my own experience like my parents are still it's actually their anniversary today 34 years big
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them up um and i just think i've grew up in that environment of having like a loving family and being
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supported as a loving family so i can't imagine kind of not giving my children that it's like maybe
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it's the white picket fence fantasy that i have but that's how i kind of want my future
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i just don't want to give put any child in position where like the other ladies have said they're going
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to be like just basically not have the influence of a father figure pretty much that yeah okay me
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personally i i think see it from the perspective of i would never have a child out of wedlock like i would
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have to be married just preference morals whatever whatever so if i was to never get married or never
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get to that point i wouldn't bring a child into this world yeah just every child needs a mother and
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a father obviously situations and things happen that that is not the case but i think to go into it
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without with the you know denying that child a mother or a father or a father should i say is yeah
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it's selfish i was about to ask do you guys think it's selfish women that do that um depends and this
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is for the men too you guys can yeah it depends on their situation it depends on what i mean the
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situation is there's no dad okay yeah but he isn't there it might it might not have been the choice you
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know so okay let's let's take me i don't have kids let's say i'm 35. would it be selfish in this
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situation i'm 35 and i no prospects it's just you know my dms are a desert it's horrible
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and so i say you know what i i want a child so i'm i'm gonna go to the ivf clinic and i'm gonna do it
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or i'm gonna i don't i don't know i don't know the science behind it but i don't think it's selfish
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but i think you need to think about you know what can you offer the child can you because you want
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your child to grow up in certain conditions right so do you have enough money to provide for the
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child do you have maybe have a male figure around you um maybe your brother your dad that can still
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support your child as a man so you don't think it's selfish to expect that out of them no because again
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before you have a child i would have locked that in i would have already like thought about these
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things do i have money for this do i have men around me that can support my child that can
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offer that guidance if i don't then i'm then i may not have a child because again it's a life
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you want to offer someone the best life that you can give right if i'm not in that position i'm not
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going to have a child okay what do you guys think well you said no prospects so i'd say that's kind of
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selfish what are you really bringing to the table as like oh as a sole person you're not really
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bringing like the love and the support you might be able to to a certain extent but by yourself
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that's hard like i wouldn't really want to wish that on someone okay i think if it's a choice for
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you to bring a child into this world by yourself and then look after the child by yourself i think
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that is selfish because yeah and what about you china yeah i'll just i was just waiting to see if
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anyone's going to say it wasn't selfish but yeah it's incredibly selfish to to bring a child into
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the world and do it by by those types of means yeah okay i feel like i feel like having a kid in
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general is kind of selfish even though you mentioned pearl earlier you said that having a not having a
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kid was selfish i think like having a kid is inherently quite selfish let's take a moment to think about
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the world that we live in today let's think about politics let's think about financials let's think
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about everything that comes into being an adult in the world that we live in today the lowest rates
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of poverty ever in human history yeah but human history is first of all like let's think
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about it comparatively i mean if you genuinely really genuinely want children of course you can
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have children but if you're having children because you feel like you need to that's different
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what's wrong with the like the world today is great especially in the west it is better than it's
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ever been but it's great it's phenomenal so were your parents selfish for having you
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they're rubbing my face all the time no i'm just asking you no i think they are how many siblings
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do you have i have two so there's three of you so your parents were incredibly selfish for having
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you guys and the thing is i feel like my parents do have a lot of regret in terms of having children
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especially so so you wish you wasn't alive you do you feel like you feel like you don't want to be
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alive that's not what i'm saying because before a fetus is born they don't even know what life is
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that's not what i'm asking you said it's incredibly selfish and you're saying but i'm
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saying you come from a family of three um so do you consider your life to be selfish i'm not
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going to say on camera that i wish i was dead there's no need to swear we're just having a
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conversation you don't need to swear but no but you're swearing a conversation someone is quite rude
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i wasn't trying to be rude i was just swearing like i normally talk i know but it's not quite okay
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so when you when you meet somebody you've never met somebody for the first time to swear when you
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speak to that person we consider it's considered quite rude so we're on a platform and we're talking to
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like a thousand thousand people that you're using towards her it's quite rude it's fucking rude i'm
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not gonna lie oh it is you're being rude to me okay okay so wait hold on a second because i was
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not being rude to you hold on a second hold on a second i've just literally just spoke i haven't
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done anything you're baiting her guys have i raised my voice no have i said anything derogatory
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wait hold on a second wait you're stopping me it's really rude you did say no i haven't said
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she wish does she wish that she's alive no i asked her a question i asked her a question i
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asked her question you keep interrupting so nothing about my tone so the problem of so what we seem to
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find is when men speak and when we speak directly we always get women that try to speak to us about
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a tone there's nothing wrong with my tone i haven't raised it she she literally just said it so could you
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just could you just check your friend for oh check the lady next to you and say there's nothing wrong
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with your tone you can check me directly no but the thing is directly if you want to no but the
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thing is i am and everyone now you're raising your voice no because so what you're doing is yeah you're
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gaslighting the situation this is what you women do this is not what no no no no this is
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he didn't do anything let me teach you let me teach you no no let me teach i think i think the
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question was a bit wow but that's why we're on a podcast the question is all right so what you guys
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are doing again you guys are stopping the man from speaking i've tried several times on this
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platform to speak oh now i'm waiting not you but what you've done is first of all you gaslighted
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that situation by saying about my tone i didn't raise my tone i didn't speak in a device you didn't
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see what you're doing again is see guys guys so so so this is a so this is a good platform so i want
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the super chats to look at look at this this is an example of gaslighting i simply asked the
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question because she said it was selfish for um for people to having children right now so i asked her
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do you consider it to be selfish for your parents that had you as a child um she was you know thinking
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about it that's fine of her to think about it but she swore at me so i've never met this lady it's
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the first time i met her and she swore at me so i just said could you please not swear and i swear
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at me on a platform what you've then said to me is about my tone if anything i would actually be
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quite in my right if someone swore at me so bro what she actually did respond has just said she's
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naturally swears anyway so so as much as you're in your world in your rights to be offended by what she
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said because you don't know you don't know and you're yourself your own person you have your
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boundaries okay so you're allowed to feel the way you feel so she just so do you think
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do you think the world owes you any understanding so if you've never met somebody and you meet them
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for the first time do you think the world owes your understanding to be like i can just effing
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blind at you do you think i owe you understanding no you've never been to east london babe
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i'm not saying the world necessarily owes her understanding she just said that to almost like
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out of contact just to comfort you like it's all right i didn't mean it so let's use this example
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right guys so let's use the example right so there's nothing wrong so there's nothing wrong
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with my tone i haven't raised my tone i haven't pointed at you i haven't shouted at you okay okay
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no no he didn't it's easy it's easy he did point at me he was doing she she she so he did yeah she i
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didn't so so you know what it is you know what it is i find it so i don't want i don't want to do
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this pearl but i'm going to say this as a black man and i'm going to do that i find it this is this
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is a scenario that that we find ourselves in i haven't done anything i haven't shouted at you
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i haven't been aggressive to you i haven't sworn at you but yet you no but wait yet you have continued
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to you talk about my tone you've tried to create an image of me a perpetual image of me on screen
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which is not that i was sworn to on live on the air that's all i said was can you please no no no it's
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fine but we're not talking about you now what we're talking about is her gaslight in a scenario
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and she's spoken about about the tone she's trying to act like i've been aggressive to her
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guys the super chats and everything will let you know because i really haven't done it you
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guys have jumped on top of me but it's fine i'm ready for this let's go switch the situation
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if she if she no if you're offended no no stop stop if you're offended i apologize but i'm not trying to
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we switch it we switch it if we switch the rate the they're not the racist the genders here if a
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girl says that to a guy could you please not swear at me it wouldn't be a thing i would and like
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and that's the thing whenever men have standards they're shamed for having standards constantly yeah it
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wasn't a thing in the first place he said i swore at him i'm swearing as i talk the way i talk
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occasionally i might throw a fuck or shit like i'm just having a conversation because i feel like a
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little bit more comfortable if you don't want me to swear at you that's completely fine it was quite
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simple i simply said and i just made you aware of it i didn't actually get at you i just simply said
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could you please not swear at me you don't you unaware of it but what happens from there i can't
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believe what's happening just simply a man saying please don't swear at me and you guys have used it as
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a situation to gaslight instead about my tone and even if i did lose lose my rag a little bit why
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are you swearing at a man that you've never met before and the first time on a platform is very
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disrespectful was not no no no no no right now this is not even about this no no no no because i'm not
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actually offended by what you said i just simply said you could please not swear at me said okay that's
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cool what she's then gone on to do is create a whole separate scenario now i don't want to know
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why have you done that i was sticking up for her because i felt like the question just was a little
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insensitive and kind of to say that just the way it was worded i didn't like so you don't think i
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was i was in my right to ask her considering she said no not about the swearing i understand no no
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not about the swearing she said that just said being being selfish right so i just said do you
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consider your existence and your siblings existence to be selfish based upon the question that she put
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out there i simply just gave her counter question it was the way it was how was it worded oh my gosh no
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i'm so bored of this conversation no no no no no because this is an example no we're not going to
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do this because what you women do is you man you might guess like you guys guess like men and then
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we when we actually want to prove a point you're like let's move it on we're not going to move it
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on i want to know no because i want to know what what led to the point where you can start saying
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about my tone and start a disrespect what led to it what did i say to her you said to her about do you
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wish that you weren't alive or something along them lines it was worded that way and i just thought oh that's a
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little bit too much but that came after the fact that she said she considered it to be selfish
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can i say something so was that was that not a team let her talk for a second i do think the
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question was a bit whoa and we're all in that no we're all out of it i thought it was a great
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after what she had said i wouldn't be like why are you asking me that it makes sense because even me
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i was kind of like yeah do you not want to be here i was about to and lucky i'm sitting here like
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i'm not gonna lie sometimes i have my days so so i don't think personally but i can see why
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someone else might be a bit like i don't know you whoa do you understand so even if she threw in
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the little the little or whatever i i'm i was a bit taken about that you took okay okay okay okay
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we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna guys guys we're gonna we're gonna move up we're gonna move
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on guys guys guys stop stop we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna stop stop you just did it again
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okay we're gonna move on um do you guys back row do you guys think it's selfish to um get ivf
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treatment um and because she used to be a single mother go ahead in the corner yeah yeah go ahead yeah
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yeah okay you think it's selfish what about you i can understand why people would do it but
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yeah just denying without a father in the picture it's okay it's not fair yeah it's selfish because
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ultimately every woman will try to locate a man that can fill that father figure or teach certain
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things that the partner or the husband or whatever would have taught if they were within a union
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so it is selfish personally i don't think it's selfish if you have a good support system it works well
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for you okay okay that's a word yeah what about the sperm donor though but there's still a father
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involved to have that for that child to be created there's still a father involved there's a sperm
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which comes from a father yeah but he's not i know but most most women right now are single but
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they have a good support system that makes the child uh even better it works out for the child
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better but if you have no support no no it doesn't no no i said i said most i didn't say everyone i think
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that's one word because there's a lot of a lot of women you can have a child if you want a baby i don't
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think that's inherently selfish when you put it your kid at every statistical disadvantage no no offense to the
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mothers on the panel but you put your kid you put your kid at every statistical disadvantage if you
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talk to people that came from single mother homes they all want a father you you're more likely to
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go to prison you're more likely to end up homeless you're more likely to go to jail like like every
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you're more likely to drop out of school run away from home i already said i think inherently having
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children is a bit selfish but that's besides that's the precise question as many of you know i was just
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