Women Don't Know What They Want In RELATIONSHIPS
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss masculinity and toxic masculinity, and how toxic masculinity is associated with men in sports and in society. We discuss the difference between masculine men and feminine men, and why masculinity is more masculine than toxic masculinity.
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do you associate more masculine guys with being toxic or do you see masculinity as different from
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toxicity the term toxic masculinity is often may vague are nice guys seen as softer and more
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feminine no okay there's a lot to unpack here there's a lot to unpack here i definitely
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but this is me being a little more pro male which is off-brand for me but yeah like they're toxic
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masculinity especially in sports is like all of us athletes just like bro like for me i've only ever
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been with athletes and like the culture that's set for them like they're not allowed to process
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their emotions and in that way it's like it causes it makes it builds a wall for them because it's
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like if they show emotion in that way they're weak and that's what they've been told their whole life
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like you cry you're a pussy to me when a man when a man cries and like well depends what they're
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crying about but like but like that's like vulnerable and like to me that's strength like
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if you're able to because there is such a culture like you know oh don't be a don't be a bitch like
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that's what they'll say to like men yeah like don't be a pussy and like also like that's kind of
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on on the flip side so a common complaint i hear from guys is women say they want the emotional side
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from us like they say they want us to cry in front of them they say they want it but then we give it
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to them and they're not attracted to it and they don't like it so women don't really know what they
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want do you think that's true i've seen that i saw i saw that in a video it was this guy uh i don't
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know what he was upset about or crying about but um the girl was like she was on the phone with him
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and she was like i want you to be more vulnerable with me but not like this and he's like pouring out
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his heart yeah just kind of hiding in her and then i thought about like what you just asked us
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like where is there like a cutoff to where it's like okay i wanted you to be vulnerable but not
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that wrong where you look like a baby but it's like but like where does it like stop i was gonna
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say i think it depends on the situation at all times because if i see you crying over somebody dying
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or like feeling like the weight like the weight on your shoulders is too much like i want to be there
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for you to help you lift that weight off your shoulders and make you feel exactly but if you
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see a rat in the corner of the room and you start crying yeah i'm gonna like like no because even i'm
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not gonna do that like i feel like i cry as well so i feel like no i'll be crying but i feel like
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like just personal preference like what are you attracted to like i know i definitely have
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internalized like toxic message like i am very like when a guy shows me like little signs of like being
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like a little feminine that's a huge turn off i like it
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you wear crop tops i like this you like that stuff oh my gosh no i see a man in a crop top
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oh no it's not toxic masculinity if i it is not toxic masculinity to have a preference for men
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that are men can i just say sorry sorry so they're not any less a man just because they dress
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i think they're more masculine am i a man just because i'm wearing pants
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are you what is that am i am i masculine because i wear pants well i didn't yeah
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pants are more masculine basketball shorts are more matte like you look more masculine when you
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wear that stuff men tend to be more when you if you wear the baggy shorts like basketball kit wise
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why does it mean i'm more masculine do you know what i mean because you look like it's like
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common sense that's not common sense to be like you know what i could wear a salmon shirt
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i could wear blue jeans and do you think i'm wearing a salmon pink shirt that means i'm
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feminine well i mean not just a pink shirt it's like how you dress like i think it's common sense
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that a girl in a ball gown looks more feminine and a girl in a basketball jersey i think looks
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more masculine i don't i don't think it's security i think it's common sense like i think like come
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on you guys know what i'm saying is true you're telling me you're telling me cinderella cinderella
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looks more masculine than than a wnba player we get you no we get you come on but i do come on
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so basketball are you associating that with a men's sport yeah it's more mad like girls look more
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masculine in our basketball jersey i wear them i wear them she's saying just like just the look like
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they're you know i understand what you're saying so if a guy so if a guy comes to me in a crop top
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he looks more feminine i'm not attractive elliott looks real good
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if i was in a football kit you'll be saying oh i look more masculine yeah
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but i feel like the world we live in see this is where society's standards come in i feel like
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personally to my in my opinion your opinions don't get to say it's wrong yeah i just feel like
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personally we're in a world that's more evolved where back in the day yes football and basketball
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are sports that's more associated with men and women have worked their asses off their
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bloody asses off i'm trying not to swear guys um to get to where they are the level of where they are
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for example i even had an argument with a guy that said one of the girls on your team
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um plays like a guy and i said argued with him and i was like yo i've been told that so many times
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i'm like why does she play like a guy do you think because men are better no sorry
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hold on they are like statistically in every category in every sorry genetically scientifically
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yeah so by every measure that you can every piece of data that you can measure
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men's muscles and their muscle mass cool it's on a different level okay this girl
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this girl worked her ass off to get to the standard of basketball that she plays she's a pro player
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yeah yeah and the guy said she plays like a guy that's so degrading she worked her ass off to get
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to where she plays like that's degrading but she plays like a woman it's that simple yeah who she is
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it's not even about women and men but why is it why is it degrading if men are bad like they're better
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men are men are more supreme that's a whole different level men are men are okay okay okay
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this is this is this is this is men are not in the conversation when with that kind of thing like
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her working her ass off and getting to that point like to bring a man into that it's almost like a
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why because it's like why does but why wait wait okay okay this is my platform this is my this
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is my youtube show pipe down child respectfully like why does it matter like why is your first
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instinct to get angry when men are or like if we compare if we compare men to women like they
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don't get angry like why is your first so because they don't want to be comfortable like being pinned
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on them and we like but i'm saying i'm saying i'm like i'm saying like like basketball right men
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statistically in every single i'm sorry it's not a fun reality but statistically like like in every
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single category are better than women like there's like really good high school teams that beat w nba
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teams all the time like but we we want credit yeah that's it we want we get credit without the
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comparison of being seen as a man so what if i what if i said you play what if i say you play like
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lebron james would you be offended no because so i wouldn't i wouldn't be offended but i'd be like
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so my my gifts and my talents are overlooked to be compared to an nba player yes great nba player but
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i'd be like can i not be can i not play like jessica can i not play like me like i understand what
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you're saying but just the fact that women can't be be like oh she's a great player she she plays
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like herself like i wonder how long she took the train and blah blah to get there but to be compared
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to a man it's like okay why can i why can't i be compared to lisa i just don't understand why it's a
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bad thing if they're if they're good like we just i don't i don't think it's as women like me
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personally i can say i got complimented in the comparison of a woman right and that was the best
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feeling in the world because i was playing beach volleyball one day yeah and this guy on the court
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was like so you're black serena williams but in volleyball yeah i was like that but you were
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you but you weren't offended by that because because she's a woman and she paved a way for female
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but i'm saying like a man did not pave a way for us we did okay women were doing it for us
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we take losses in w like in the in college basketball women's take losses every year in
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profits no that's who's making the profits that's paving the way they lose money every single year
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when it comes to money i mean just being strong enough to want to play a sport that is male
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dominated for example like come on tennis uh basketball all those things it always started
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out with men at some point they were like all right let's let women play even baseball they
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decided not to let women play baseball and called it softball yeah like because they decided it had
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to be different like don't the only time i feel like it's okay to make extreme comparisons and
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differences in the sport is track that makes sense women are naturally built different we fully accept
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that so we have to make those exceptions for us in track but in other sports give women a little
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bit more credit you know we we hold ass too so they hold it down yeah like if we look at there's
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a lot of women there's a lot of female like if we're gonna talk about basketball or anything
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i can't be coming to volleyball i don't really pay attention to it like that but like even in
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basketball um even football there's a lot of female players that actually play better than a lot
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of men play but you never say you'll never catch like uh other guy credit in them like that
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wait are you talking about soccer yeah yeah are you talking about soccer but if but if the women
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if the women it's all driven by the market though like it's driven by by the fans that want to watch
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so so if if women were better than men like more fans would watch they would make more money
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better is like not the right term like i think that like historically like male sports have
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dominated and that's kind of the tone that's set like yeah we probably had like a 40 year yeah
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exactly right also women we don't play like men we play differently we're not as physical and that's
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genetic yeah we are like women's volleyball is completely different than men's volleyball yeah
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women's volleyball is a lot less like men's volleyball they'll have like two rallies and then it's
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over because everyone hits so hard that you can only do so much with it yeah women's volleyball is
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a lot different and that like there's a lack of interest like women's basketball you're not going
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to see girls dunking every single ball right right and it's like that's not the showboating like you
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know what i'm saying so yeah yeah i'm like i agree i agree yeah don't appreciate the i think it's