JustPearlyThings - August 02, 2023


You Won't BELIEVE What She Said When Pearl Asked THIS


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Is there such a thing as a high-value woman? What does that mean and what does it mean to be a High-Value Woman? We discuss this and much more in this episode of the podcast.

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00:00:00.000 Is there such a thing as a high-value woman? 1.00
00:00:04.200 If so, what does that look like?
00:00:06.560 Start here, go around.
00:00:11.220 I think there is a high-value woman 1.00
00:00:13.600 because I know that men care about women's past
00:00:21.340 and women care about a man's future. 1.00
00:00:24.660 So, I think men do look for a high-value woman. 0.99
00:00:33.580 That's what I think.
00:00:35.080 So, what traits does she have? 1.00
00:00:39.300 So, she's like, what, a virgin?
00:00:41.000 You just said that they care about their past.
00:00:43.000 Like, what is...
00:00:44.300 Well, like, I can't really answer that
00:00:46.180 because I feel like every man has its own...
00:00:49.020 Okay, you don't think there's any general things?
00:00:51.020 It's just, you don't know?
00:00:52.300 Maybe, like, body count.
00:00:53.760 I feel like some guys care about body count
00:00:56.460 and what women do for a living 1.00
00:00:59.300 and their mindsets and their goals in life.
00:01:03.180 Okay.
00:01:03.860 What do you think?
00:01:06.160 I think there is high-value women. 1.00
00:01:09.180 I think they have to have some traits.
00:01:12.380 Like, they have to be motivated.
00:01:14.100 They have to motivate me in some way.
00:01:16.420 They also have to be family-orientated
00:01:18.480 because I'm big on family.
00:01:20.100 So, that's definitely high-value.
00:01:22.040 And I'll say...
00:01:24.760 I don't know, because some people have past
00:01:27.320 and they have history, you know,
00:01:28.600 but you can't really judge them from that.
00:01:31.040 So, I don't know if that...
00:01:31.780 You can't judge on their past?
00:01:33.660 Yeah, it's like...
00:01:34.740 Can I judge a man if he has a past of, like, prison?
00:01:37.820 Uh...
00:01:39.820 You can, but that person can't change, though, so...
00:01:43.940 Oh, I shouldn't?
00:01:45.540 You want your daughter, your sister,
00:01:47.760 going out with a guy, got out of prison...
00:01:50.520 Like, me, personally, if I meet the guy
00:01:53.180 and I like him...
00:01:54.580 Oh, wow.
00:01:55.460 ...in some way...
00:01:56.240 I think that's bad advice.
00:01:57.200 You think?
00:01:57.820 Yeah, I think that is.
00:01:59.440 Who here, guys?
00:02:00.680 Daughter, prison past, you're cool with?
00:02:02.900 Anyone?
00:02:03.480 Listen, if the dude was in prison
00:02:05.640 from a less than a kid
00:02:06.740 and you were like,
00:02:07.160 but I like him,
00:02:08.460 you might want to rethink that.
00:02:09.660 But obviously, that's, like, specific.
00:02:11.240 You know what I mean?
00:02:11.580 Like, if he was just in prison
00:02:13.060 about anything else,
00:02:15.160 then I'd probably give him a chance.
00:02:17.460 But, like, in general,
00:02:19.440 I don't really hold people
00:02:20.400 from what they've done.
00:02:21.380 Okay.
00:02:21.860 It's who they are now.
00:02:22.640 Okay, so for high-value women to you, 1.00
00:02:24.420 body count doesn't matter.
00:02:25.540 If it's 1,000, you're cool.
00:02:26.720 I wouldn't say I'm cool.
00:02:28.720 Okay, so it matters someone.
00:02:30.900 Yeah, someone.
00:02:31.680 Okay, so what?
00:02:32.880 How many bodies she got to be under? 0.76
00:02:34.720 I'll say probably stay under, like, 20.
00:02:39.360 Okay, under 20, she's high-value.
00:02:41.540 Yeah.
00:02:42.080 Okay, what else?
00:02:43.680 I'll say definitely to motivate me in some way.
00:02:47.500 I'll say, because I'm a gym person,
00:02:49.800 I'll say health.
00:02:52.080 Healthy, okay.
00:02:52.800 Yeah, and high-value.
00:02:56.720 Who's, is there a woman you think of
00:03:00.160 when you think of a high-value woman? 0.82
00:03:03.760 Someone in the media?
00:03:05.940 If not, it's okay, but I'm just wondering.
00:03:07.880 I'm really working my brain.
00:03:09.000 I'm just trying to.
00:03:09.500 Yeah.
00:03:09.880 Yeah.
00:03:13.460 Not right now.
00:03:14.480 I wouldn't, like,
00:03:16.080 choose a specific one right now.
00:03:17.620 Okay.
00:03:18.300 What do you think?
00:03:19.440 I think with high-value women, 1.00
00:03:21.720 it can mean different things.
00:03:23.260 I think if a woman's got respect, 1.00
00:03:24.820 she's kind, she's honest,
00:03:27.120 she's got, like, a business mentality,
00:03:29.820 and she's hard-working,
00:03:31.800 that, to me, shows she's a high-value
00:03:33.960 because she's putting in that extra effort.
00:03:35.940 And I know a lot of girls that sit around at home all day, 1.00
00:03:38.800 don't do nothing with their life,
00:03:40.040 but then you see a lot of women 1.00
00:03:41.240 that work their arses off, you know?
00:03:43.080 And to me, that shows that they're trying to be good women,
00:03:46.860 you know?
00:03:47.700 I don't think it does.
00:03:49.120 No?
00:03:49.380 No?
00:03:49.560 I don't think men really care.
00:03:51.340 No?
00:03:52.020 Yeah.
00:03:52.680 It's like nothing to them.
00:03:54.520 I get, okay.
00:03:55.820 It's like, you know how a guy talks about his shoe collection?
00:03:58.680 Yeah.
00:03:59.120 And you're like, oh, that's nice, but I don't care.
00:04:00.820 Oh, yeah, okay, yeah.
00:04:02.180 Okay.
00:04:02.960 It's like our jobs, you know?
00:04:04.080 Yeah.
00:04:04.280 But I think it's hard because everyone's got, like,
00:04:06.760 a different vision in their head of how a woman should be. 0.88
00:04:09.360 I'm just curious.
00:04:10.100 So, okay, so you said she's got to have respect.
00:04:12.780 Like, what does she have to do to be a high-value woman? 1.00
00:04:15.520 Like, what skills does she have to have? 1.00
00:04:18.340 What does she have to look like? 1.00
00:04:21.500 Well, we all know a man likes a classy woman, right? 1.00
00:04:25.200 Not all men, but we all know a man likes a classy woman.
00:04:27.580 Not someone that shows their arse off on Instagram or, you know,
00:04:30.940 oh, sorry, does that sort of thing.
00:04:33.340 So, in my head, a high-value woman to a man is someone that dresses appropriately 0.97
00:04:38.360 and has morals, whatever that means to some people.
00:04:42.860 Okay.
00:04:43.360 The bar is low.
00:04:45.180 That's it?
00:04:46.720 I mean, my head is a bit frazzled right now.
00:04:51.460 So, don't sleep.
00:04:52.360 All right, this is what I got so far.
00:04:53.660 Don't sleep with 20 people.
00:04:56.360 Don't have your butt on Instagram.
00:05:00.160 Be in shape.
00:05:01.480 And be respectable.
00:05:05.080 That's it?
00:05:05.700 Okay, no, it's fine.
00:05:06.900 I'm just taking something out.
00:05:07.800 I think there's some more.
00:05:08.860 There's some more there, you know?
00:05:10.420 I'm just repeating back.
00:05:12.240 I feel like it will come back to me.
00:05:13.840 That's okay.
00:05:14.340 Okay, what do you think?
00:05:15.100 What is a high-value woman? 1.00
00:05:17.100 And does it exist?
00:05:18.160 Because some people don't believe in it, so it's up to you.
00:05:20.240 It has to exist, but it's completely different to what makes a high-value man.
00:05:25.680 I think women judge a high-value man based on the things that we want and what we look for. 1.00
00:05:31.780 So, a high-value woman has to be based on what men are looking for, which is going to be completely different. 0.86
00:05:36.960 So, it would be younger women, 20 to 20, in shape, not got everything out on Instagram, and low body count, wants kids, wants family, wants a husband, doesn't want to go out on girls' holidays, all those kinds of things. 1.00
00:05:59.960 Based, based, okay, what do you think?
00:06:04.800 High-value woman? 0.99
00:06:05.460 No, I don't believe there's high-value women. 1.00
00:06:07.400 I believe value is contextual.
00:06:09.440 Okay.
00:06:09.680 So, it's all very dependent on what you see at the end of the day.
00:06:12.380 You could have a woman who is, or what society theme is, overweight, and a man might value that really highly, because that's what he wants. 0.98
00:06:19.420 It all depends on somebody's experience.
00:06:21.060 So, I don't believe there's high-value women. 1.00
00:06:22.860 I believe that there are women who want to put out certain ways about them, and if that's what they want to do, then that's awesome. 1.00
00:06:29.160 And there are women who are going to do what they're going to do, and men will still idolize and worship them anyway. 1.00
00:06:34.220 That's what I believe anyway.
00:06:36.380 Sorry, can you explain that again?
00:06:38.200 Yeah, so, value is contextual.
00:06:40.040 Right.
00:06:40.220 So, it depends on how someone will perceive that woman.
00:06:44.380 So, somebody might look at, I don't know, the queen and see she's high-value, because she's head of the monarchy.
00:06:49.600 Okay.
00:06:49.800 And she owns Windsor Castle and all the rest of it. 0.97
00:06:51.800 Some of us look at the queen and think, I can't stand her. 0.98
00:06:54.220 I don't like her at all.
00:06:54.960 She's not high-value to me.
00:06:56.180 Okay.
00:06:56.400 Whereas, somebody may look at somebody that lives within a council estate, and they may aspire to be with a woman like that. 1.00
00:07:03.220 But you don't think there's general things that most men, like most men might look at, I don't know, Margot Robbie, Beyonce 20 years ago, and say that high-value or good-looking.
00:07:14.400 You don't think there's general things that men want?
00:07:16.740 Good-looking doesn't mean high-value, though.
00:07:18.380 Somebody can, there's loads of people that are good-looking.
00:07:20.280 It doesn't mean that they're high-value.
00:07:21.320 So, at the end of the day-
00:07:22.360 I'm just wondering if it starts there, at least for guys.
00:07:24.900 No.
00:07:25.300 So, I can only talk for myself.
00:07:26.860 But for me, personally, looks doesn't necessarily then equate to high-value.
00:07:30.060 I've seen women that are what people classify as tens, and their values are minus 10. 1.00
00:07:35.220 So, at the end of the day, to me, it's contextual.
00:07:37.780 Very, very contextual.
00:07:38.500 Well, I'm not saying it's just, like, I'm saying it's not looks alone, but, like, it would start there.
00:07:42.980 Like, I don't think you can be, like, 300 pounds and be high-value as a girl.
00:07:46.400 I just think it doesn't.
00:07:47.320 It depends on who's looking.
00:07:48.560 I know men that want 300-pound girls, and they deem them to be high-value. 1.00
00:07:52.020 So, it just depends, in my opinion.
00:07:53.540 I think usually those guys can't get laid by anyone else.
00:07:57.020 Very true.
00:07:57.720 Because, you know, I don't see, you know, I just, I don't see the rich men, like, bringing the whales to functions, you know?
00:08:04.480 Very, very true.
00:08:05.540 But then we're not looking at it from a men's point of view.
00:08:07.320 We're looking at it from a women's point of view. 1.00
00:08:08.720 So, the question you asked was, is what do people think to be a high-value?
00:08:11.660 So, I'm not looking at a high-value man looking at a high-value woman, I'm just looking at what a high-value woman is in my context.
00:08:17.300 No, I was thinking of it from the men's point of view, because I'm just looking at, like, the most sought-after men tend to pick, which isn't, like, fat chicks.
00:08:24.120 Okay.
00:08:24.660 So, if we're looking at it from that way, the most sought-after men, no, they wouldn't necessarily pick that.
00:08:29.720 Although, some men have some really crazy fetishes.
00:08:32.920 So, they may say that they don't want these women on the surface, but then what they're doing behind closed doors is they've got that type of woman. 0.58
00:08:39.640 I mean, every king had concubines.
00:08:41.820 Very true.
00:08:42.140 But that doesn't make her a queen, you know?
00:08:43.700 No, it doesn't at all.
00:08:44.980 But he might deem that woman, so the high-value woman might be the one that he puts on a pedestal, but then he might deem the woman that he's sleeping with that's 300 pounds high-value as well, because she's given him what he needs at the time that he needs it.
00:08:55.340 So, it's all very contextual.
00:08:56.500 Yeah, but I would think you'd have, like, results to show.
00:08:59.160 You know what I mean?
00:08:59.700 Like, you'd have, like, a ring or, like, a house.
00:09:01.760 Oh, so some concubines have house rings. 1.00
00:09:05.460 Yeah, they might, but I just, I don't really see them bringing the concubines out in public.
00:09:10.520 Like, they're usually in the back, you know?
00:09:12.380 I agree with that.
00:09:13.420 That I agree with.
00:09:14.320 Yeah, they don't bring those concubines, but those concubines get to live in the ivory tower. 1.00
00:09:18.420 Yeah.
00:09:18.680 And they're quite happy with it as well.
00:09:20.120 So, yeah, to me, it's contextual.
00:09:21.980 Okay, what do you think?
00:09:22.820 Do high-value women exist? 1.00
00:09:24.480 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:24.960 High-value women does exist because, like, the first time being on the set, so they're 1.00
00:09:37.680 getting me so after, you know?
00:09:39.280 So, what was the question again?
00:09:40.140 All right, so what is a high-value, do high-value women exist, and what is a high-value woman? 1.00
00:09:46.420 So, a high-value woman is, like, a girl that got herself put together, like, that go out 0.88
00:09:51.400 there every single day to work on what they love, and also, like, doesn't party all the
00:09:57.620 time, and, um, yeah, that's what I've got.
00:10:02.000 So, is Oprah a high-value woman? 0.90
00:10:05.180 No, not really.
00:10:05.700 She does what she loves every day.
00:10:08.420 I don't think she's a big partier.
00:10:10.000 She doesn't seem like it.
00:10:11.640 Oprah, high-value, no?
00:10:13.600 Uh, yeah, but no.
00:10:15.380 At the same time, isn't it?
00:10:16.480 Okay.
00:10:16.860 But I think, yeah, I think, yeah, I think, yeah.
00:10:18.240 There's just some of you guys, the bar is, like, low.
00:10:20.940 Like, wow.
00:10:21.500 I don't really, yeah.
00:10:23.440 It's like, with this, everyone here is a high-value woman.
00:10:27.620 Like, I think it depends, though, like, because, like, there is women out there that works 1.00
00:10:33.960 to separate themselves from the rest, which is why I can appreciate that, you know what
00:10:38.420 I mean?
00:10:38.660 But, obviously, we're all, like, humans.
00:10:42.220 We like what we like.
00:10:43.480 But I believe, like, there is high-value women out there. 1.00
00:10:46.700 There is women that really go out there and gets it. 1.00
00:10:49.920 They're really putting the work to be to a higher level.
00:10:53.560 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:53.860 Yeah, um, I guess, like, what you guys, most of you, not you, but are describing, it's
00:10:59.380 just, like, it's very, like, a low bar.
00:11:01.460 Like, we don't really got to do much.
00:11:03.040 You might be right.
00:11:04.060 I'm just asking the question.
00:11:05.600 What do you think?
00:11:06.500 Is there a high-value woman? 1.00
00:11:07.520 Do high-value women exist? 1.00
00:11:09.060 If so, who are they?
00:11:10.920 Well, so this is an interesting question.
00:11:12.800 I wondered about this a little bit, too, because there's a lot of people that will ask, like,
00:11:15.580 oh, you know, high-value men.
00:11:17.480 So that's the other side of it is, does a high-value man exist, right?
00:11:21.740 People are like, what's a high-value man?
00:11:23.740 Well, that's an easy question to answer.
00:11:25.600 It's just a high-value man.
00:11:26.940 First of all, who measures value?
00:11:28.340 Like, we have to have an objective standard.
00:11:29.840 We can't be delusional and be like, everybody likes different things.
00:11:32.700 Well, you know, if this girl's into this kink, then she's a high-value woman. 1.00
00:11:35.500 It's like, is she high-value because you're into crapping in her mouth and she takes it?
00:11:39.060 That makes her high-value?
00:11:39.880 That's absolutely crazy.
00:11:41.580 A kink doesn't make a person high-value. 1.00
00:11:43.100 It makes them a sexual object.
00:11:44.280 I can buy a sexual object, and if I can buy it, it's not going to be a lot of value in the marketplace
00:11:48.880 because there's a lot of dudes that can buy it.
00:11:50.300 So who determines value?
00:11:52.240 That's an interesting question, and the answer is it's the market that determines the value.
00:11:55.720 For people who don't know what that means, it's like, buy my house for a billion dollars.
00:11:59.940 It's like, but this house sucks.
00:12:01.020 Yeah, but I determine my own value.
00:12:02.540 It's a billion dollars.
00:12:03.220 How many people buy that house?
00:12:05.340 Zero people.
00:12:06.080 Who determines the value of a house?
00:12:07.300 The market.
00:12:07.700 What does that mean?
00:12:08.220 It's the willing number of buyers that are going to pay the maximum price, and the highest bidder usually wins.
00:12:12.560 So the value has to be determined by the highest bidder.
00:12:15.660 That's how things work in life, right?
00:12:17.380 So a high-value woman would be a woman that is sought after by the highest bidder, the highest bidding man. 0.99
00:12:23.360 Now, this is a really interesting question because this is – I actually had a really interesting discussion with a friend of mine about this.
00:12:28.160 Like, what does it mean to bid on a woman? 0.83
00:12:30.300 See, this is where women get confused, right? 1.00
00:12:31.740 Because women are like, oh, a lot of guys want to sleep with me, and they DM me, so I'm a high-value woman.
00:12:36.760 But that's a misnomer in the value marketplace, and there's a really easy answer for that, right?
00:12:41.420 Like, here's a question for you guys.
00:12:42.880 How many people in the world today can go pay cash and buy a Ferrari?
00:12:46.500 Is that a lot or a little?
00:12:47.980 A little.
00:12:48.600 It's a little.
00:12:49.020 How many people can save up for a little bit and rent a Ferrari for their wedding or their graduation?
00:12:55.220 Quite a lot of people, right?
00:12:56.500 So women are like, oh, these dudes are hitting me. 1.00
00:12:58.380 I'm high-value.
00:12:58.880 It's like, no, you're a rental car.
00:13:00.760 You know, a lot of guys can save up and rent a nice car for a day.
00:13:03.560 You're not high-value.
00:13:04.340 So a high-value cannot be a rental car.
00:13:06.080 A high-value has to be an owner car.
00:13:08.500 So a high-value woman, by the definition of the market, is just what is the highest status or the highest value or most desired, because that's how men's value is marketed, you know?
00:13:18.240 What is the highest value man that is willing to give you what?
00:13:22.020 A ring.
00:13:22.420 A ring.
00:13:22.900 There it is.
00:13:23.520 It's the highest value man that's willing to give you a ring.
00:13:25.980 So if you can get dudes that want to hump you, but they don't want to give you a ring, you're not high-value.
00:13:30.620 And that's the answer.
00:13:31.840 Do high-value women exist? 1.00
00:13:33.260 Yes, because I'm married for 10 years with four kids.
00:13:37.920 And I know a lot of other dudes that are doing pretty darn well that are married to these women.
00:13:43.180 But then it goes back to what I was saying before, so it's contextual.
00:13:46.640 So it's like, I could say my mom's high-value, but my mom's done a lot of stuff that other people would have deemed to be high-value.
00:13:54.300 But my mom's high-value because she's worth something to me.
00:13:56.440 She's my mom.
00:13:57.000 She raised me.
00:13:57.660 Yes, but we're talking about sexual market value.
00:13:59.340 We're not talking about, do I love my mother?
00:14:00.980 It's a totally different argument.
00:14:01.840 I get that, but where I come back is that what you're saying is basically what I put in a nutshell is contextual.
00:14:07.280 So you can be married.
00:14:08.360 So what you're saying is that basically it's a woman who a man's worth willing to put a ring on. 0.72
00:14:13.860 So a man might be willing to put a ring on somebody that's 300 pounds.
00:14:18.720 No, man.
00:14:19.560 Listen.
00:14:20.160 Listen.
00:14:20.880 I know guys, and I'm going to bring them to Pearl's show on Saturday, by the way, if you guys are going to watch.
00:14:24.940 I hope it's going to be amazing.
00:14:26.100 I know guys worth $100 million.
00:14:27.620 Like I was with one just the other day at my place, and Henry was filming us having a conversation.
00:14:31.780 It's like, no dude is like, I've made $100 million.
00:14:34.420 Now it's time to bag me a 300-pounder, and my life is complete.
00:14:38.340 Zero men.
00:14:39.120 Not even one man is thinking that.
00:14:40.620 Do you know what?
00:14:40.980 I think then, again, it's contextual because I can go to my place of heritage where I know a man who is incredibly rich, and his woman is over 250 pounds, and that's his wife.
00:14:52.380 Yeah.
00:14:52.700 And he parades her everywhere, and he's very happy to do it.
00:14:56.220 And the concubines he has. 0.50
00:14:57.040 Parade's probably the right word, yeah.
00:14:58.420 And the concubines that he has are women who other men would deem high value.
00:15:03.360 How long have they been together?
00:15:04.740 15 years.
00:15:05.560 Okay, yeah, but was she like that when he, like, was he rich then?
00:15:08.840 He was rich.
00:15:09.480 And he picked a fat.
00:15:10.220 And he picked a fat.
00:15:11.040 And he always picked women that are larger because that's his thing. 0.95
00:15:14.020 So, again, it's contextual.
00:15:15.200 But that's not market value.
00:15:16.140 It's like, yeah, some guys like, you know, a shitty car that breaks down because they're into this vintage shitty car.
00:15:22.320 But that's not the market value.
00:15:24.760 That's just the guy, right?
00:15:25.760 You're applying group statistics to an individual, which is fine.
00:15:28.520 And I agree with your argument.
00:15:29.460 You're like, well, my mom is high value because she does a lot of good things for me, you know, her kids, society, et cetera.
00:15:34.160 I get that.
00:15:35.020 Obviously, in the context of this show, we're talking about sexual market value, right?
00:15:38.780 Now, if a guy likes a whale, let me say this.
00:15:42.140 That's a terrible strategy for a woman to implore in her life. 1.00
00:15:44.460 Like, well, some guys like me if I'm 300 pounds.
00:15:46.760 It's like, yeah, but that's not maximizing for success.
00:15:50.380 Yeah, that's true.
00:15:50.940 At that point, you're just a disabled parking spot, right? 1.00
00:15:53.380 Like, guys will park with you, but they'll check if anyone's looking first.
00:15:56.660 That's the point.
00:15:57.520 Would you, if you had, do you have kids?
00:15:59.980 Yeah, I've got kids.
00:16:00.700 Have you got a daughter?
00:16:01.520 Yeah, I've got two.
00:16:02.020 If you were going to give her advice, just generally, because if you've got a son, you tend to give your kids advice on how to grow up and be a good man.
00:16:09.840 Like, how, if you were to advise your daughter, your recommendation wouldn't probably be to, yeah, just get as fat as you like, because some man out there will love you.
00:16:19.080 You kind of, you want your child to kind of aim, you know?
00:16:24.260 Yeah, do you know what?
00:16:24.980 You're the best shot of getting a good man.
00:16:27.440 I know my viewpoints are very different to most people, so I like to look at them.
00:16:31.360 But generally, like, we can look at things holistically, like, of course we can.
00:16:34.420 We can look at things holistically and look at it, and at the end of the day, like...
00:16:37.000 And we have to on a show, because, like, on a show, it's not about individuals.
00:16:41.160 Like, we're talking about society in general.
00:16:43.780 What do you think?
00:16:44.600 High-value woman? 0.99
00:16:45.620 I definitely exist, yeah.
00:16:47.100 And from, like, listening to everybody, I'd list looks, body count probably important.
00:16:53.020 For me, intelligence, definitely high up there.
00:16:57.300 Loyalty is a big deal.
00:16:59.960 And nurturing, for sure, if I would list a few things.