EP40: Tiger King Gives EXCLUSIVE Interview to Laura Loomer From Florida Jail CellEP40: Tiger King Gives EXCLUSIVE Interview to Laura Loomer From Florida Jail Cell
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00:10:36.000Episode 40 of Loomer Unleashed, I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
00:10:41.000Here on Loomer Unleashed, I frequently cover the ongoing campaign of lawfare against President Donald Trump and the corruption of many left-wing judges throughout our judicial system.
00:10:50.000Two weeks ago, I broke the story about Judge Juan Marchand and his family's deep connections to the Biden administration, the DNC, and progressive activist groups via his daughter, Lauren Marchand.
00:11:01.000This connection, mainly through his daughter, but also through his wife,
00:11:05.000That, of course, is the question on everybody's mind.
00:11:21.000Tonight, we delve into a topic that strikes at the very heart of justice in our nation, the elusive concept of what it means to have a fair trial in America.
00:11:30.000Across the country, Donald Trump has been subjected to seemingly endless amounts of court proceedings.
00:11:36.000As we've covered on the show previously, these lawsuits and criminal investigations are being intentionally manufactured by the left and the deep state, and in many cases being egged on by rhinos, who are traitors to our country.
00:11:48.000You see, the intent is to inconvenience and slow Donald Trump's march to the White House in whatever way possible.
00:11:55.000Their ultimate prize would be to put him behind bars forever, but they will happily settle for simply draining President Trump of his money and time, both of which they are doing successfully.
00:12:06.000For the Democrats and their allies, it's a win-win scenario.
00:12:09.000The use of lawfare as a political tactic is shameful enough alone, but it is exacerbated by the fact that Donald Trump is routinely put before liberal activist judges.
00:12:19.000Judge Ngoron, Judge Chupkin, Judge Kaplan, and Judge Mershawn.
00:12:23.000The list goes on and on, and that's just from the last few months.
00:12:27.000It's already difficult enough to get a fair trial as a public figure in this nation, but it is an entirely different thing to be intentionally thrown into a rigged trial.
00:12:36.000On Monday next week, beginning April 15th, President Trump's trial in New York City, in the case in which he has been falsely accused of allegedly falsifying business records and paying the porn star Stormy Daniels hush money, that trial is set to begin and it will be presided over by Judge Mershawn.
00:12:56.000I will be traveling to New York this weekend to cover the trial live throughout the week.
00:13:00.000Just yesterday, the New York State Appellate Court denied Trump's request to delay the trial.
00:13:05.000Trump's legal team argued that an impartial jury simply could not be selected at the moment because of all of the publicity and especially the fact that the judge's daughter, Lauren Marchand, had a Twitter ex-profile, as I exposed, that is President Trump behind jail bars.
00:13:21.000That account now, she, of course, is saying, oh, it's not mine!
00:13:24.000The Joy Reid defense always works, right?
00:13:36.000Everyone in this nation knows who Donald Trump is.
00:13:39.000Everyone has an opinion of him, and in New York City, the majority of the opinions aren't very positive if you are talking only about the judicial system and the media, given that New York City happens to be the media capital of the world.
00:13:51.000How exactly, then, are the jurors supposed to act impartially when there is an endless personal bias, media attention, and, of course, you know, don't forget about all the outside pressure to rule one way or another?
00:14:17.000Well, we're going to talk about that tonight, too.
00:14:20.000The trial, of course, is just going to march on forward in just six days.
00:14:24.000By the way, have any of you noticed that all of these judges are first or second generation immigrants?
00:14:30.000Many of them are foreign born, yet they're trying to put a United States president behind bars.
00:14:38.000They're not even from this country, many of these judges.
00:14:40.000That just doesn't really sit well with me, and it's even more of a reason for why we need to close our border.
00:14:46.000It should also be an eye-opener to how we as a people, along with our justice system, are being taken over and replaced by third-world invaders who just happen to be wearing black robes.
00:14:58.000But this problem does not simply stop with Donald Trump.
00:15:01.000The issue at hand extends far beyond any single individual.
00:15:04.000It strikes at the very core of our judicial system and its ability to ensure equal treatment under the law for all, regardless of stature or political affiliation.
00:15:14.000The reality is that the public spotlight can cast a long and unforgiving shadow, distorting perceptions and influencing outcomes in ways that defy the principles of justice.
00:15:23.000Whether it's the court of public opinion or the pressures exerted by powerful interests,
00:15:28.000The path to a fair trial for public officials is full of obstacles.
00:15:33.000Take, for example, the many January 6th protesters, political prisoners, who have been embroiled in ridiculous criminal proceedings for the past three years.
00:15:42.000These are earnest American patriots, many of whom did nothing wrong aside from being inside the Capitol building, which, you know, is supposed to be the home of the people, the people's representation.
00:15:58.000Some of these protesters, unfortunately, have been sitting in solitary confinement for months on end, enduring treatment intended for hardened criminals, the worst of the worst.
00:16:08.000Is anyone under the illusion that the J6 protesters received a fair trial in Washington D.C., the hive of the deep state?
00:16:14.000Everyone with even the slightest left-leaning was convinced by the media that anyone in the Capitol that day was there to destroy democracy and lynch politicians, right?
00:16:38.000They were just normal people who found the iron fist of the government and the judicial system coming down on their heads with full force.
00:16:46.000We just saw the other day the case of Rebecca Laverns, a grandmother, sentenced to jail time for simply praying inside the Capitol.
00:16:55.000Third world country, banana republic stuff.
00:16:58.000To them, a fair trial was as elusive as the wind.
00:17:02.000The quest for a fair trial in America is not merely an abstract concept.
00:17:05.000It is a fundamental tenet of our democracy that demands our unwavering commitment.
00:17:11.000In the case of Donald Trump and others like him, there are many extenuating circumstances, but the imperative remains the same, to ensure that justice is served impartially and without prejudice.
00:17:22.000My guest tonight also believes that he has been the victim of an unfair judicial system.
00:17:27.000He is no stranger to the media circus and to the long shadow cast by the Court of Public Opinion.
00:17:32.000Joe Exotic, otherwise known as the Tiger King from the very popular Netflix series, Tiger King, will be joining me at 9 p.m.
00:17:39.000Eastern live from his jail cell tonight in the Santa Rosa County Jail in Florida to discuss his story, his attempts to receive a presidential pardon,
00:17:51.000Why he decided to run for president from jail, and a whole lot more.
00:17:54.000So stay tuned, the Tiger King is going to be uncensored and unleashed on Loomer Unleashed.
00:18:01.000There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
00:18:10.000If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
00:19:34.000I, you know, we've had a lot of famous people on the show, mostly politicians, but this is going to be, I guess, our first, well, I guess it's not our first jailhouse interview because we've actually interviewed January 6th political prisoners, but in terms of a non-political celebrity, I guess he's now delved into politics, right?
00:20:36.000As I said before, right, a lot of people in this country now are starting to wake up to the fact that we have weaponized government in our country.
00:20:45.000And when you look at President Trump and what they're doing to President Trump and the way that President Trump has been denied a fair trial, there's a lot of people that are now going to be first-time voters who thought, well, you know, I don't really believe in supporting politicians or I don't really want to vote for anybody.
00:21:03.000I don't feel like my vote is going to count.
00:21:05.000But now they're starting to see, right, in the form of President Donald Trump, how our justice system is weaponized and if they can jail a sitting United States President or they can issue these egregious fines and have these ridiculous witch hunt trials in a banana republic court system in our country, people are watching this.
00:21:27.000People are seeing the most powerful man in the world, one of the richest men in the world,
00:21:31.000Uh, be put on trial with these corrupt leftist activist judges and they're thinking to themselves, holy shit, this can happen to me.
00:21:55.000Everybody can understand what it's like to be either a private citizen or a public figure and this dichotomy that exists, this power struggle that exists between ordinary people and authority figures, law enforcement officials.
00:22:10.000And we're seeing this now play out either with the witch hunts against President Trump or the FBI raids on the January Sixers or look at the case of Joe Exotic who thinks that he was not given a fair trial.
00:22:21.000And meanwhile, the entire country was able to form an opinion about, you know, whether or not he was innocent or not, because his entire story was sensationalized with a show that ended up going viral, becoming, what, the most popular show on Netflix during the coronavirus lockdown.
00:22:38.000So it's interesting when you see it from the perspective of President Trump, but also tonight we're going to hear from the perspective of somebody who
00:22:47.000Also has been in the public eyes, received a media circus around their trial, much like Donald Trump's trials have become a media circus because the media is just incapable of allowing this man, the greatest president we've ever had, Donald J. Trump, to have a fair trial.
00:23:04.000We're going to talk to him about that in about 35 minutes or so.
00:23:09.000But in the meantime, a couple updates.
00:23:11.000I was at Mar-a-Lago last week for Carrie Lake's fundraiser, and it was a great time.
00:23:17.000She broke fundraising records, raising over a million dollars, the most money that any Senate candidate has ever raised in a single fundraising night at Mar-a-Lago.
00:23:27.000And so, congratulations to Carrie Lake.
00:23:31.000And I had the honor of attending that fundraiser and received a shout out from President Trump.
00:23:36.000So I wanted to share all of that with you because we did not have Loomer Unleashed last Thursday.
00:23:42.000But this was a really exciting moment and so I want to take a moment and play it for you.
00:23:47.000We have a lot of great friends and a lot of great people.
00:24:19.000Loomer Unleashed and Loomerd.com was the subject, of course, of the media's obsession this last weekend because they said, oh, President Trump broke his gag order!
00:24:28.000More lies from the fake news media saying that President Trump broke his gag order because he shared my articles.
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00:25:32.000And your contribution and your support helps ensure that I can continue doing what I'm doing.
00:25:38.000Uh, what I'm doing made national news.
00:26:07.000But it was really exciting because President Trump and his legal team filed a motion requesting recusal.
00:26:14.000And in their motion, they actually cited my reporting.
00:26:17.000And so my reporting was cited in the official Trump motion requesting the recusal of Judge Marshawn, but because New York is so corrupt and
00:26:27.000You know, we've seen that these motions requesting recusal on behalf of these judges in these cases, these witch hunts against Donald Trump, they never get granted because, well, we live in a banana republic, so I don't really expect much to change.
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00:29:08.000A lot of people don't know this, but Joe Exotic had actually filed to run for president this election season in the Democrat primary against Joe Biden.
00:29:58.000I'm talking about these Islamic savages who are chanting death to America.
00:30:04.000I don't know if you saw this video of these absolute animals taking over the streets of Dearborn, Michigan, but here's this video of Muslims
00:30:13.000In support of the Palestinians having their rally in Dearborn, Michigan, chanting death to America.
00:30:19.000And for those of you that are OG original supporters of me and have been following me for years, you know that I actually traveled to Dearborn, Michigan in 2018.
00:30:33.000I said, oh wow, they have Sharia law here and a rise of Sharia law because there was a guy by the name of Abdul Al Sayed, a Muslim who was running for governor of Michigan.
00:30:42.000And the city of Dearborn actually issued a statement against me and took to their official Twitter account to speak out against me.
00:30:48.000And so let's go ahead and play this clip and then we can show you to some of these articles about Dearborn.
00:31:12.000For protests on the International Day of Quits, why are they so anti-America?
00:31:18.000Why don't we just focus more on Israel and not talk so much about America?
00:31:25.000Gaza has shown the entire world why these protests are so anti-America.
00:31:31.000Because it's the United States government that provides the funds for all of the atrocities that we just heard about.
00:31:37.000And this is why Imam Khomeini, who declared the International Day of Quds, this is why he would say to pour all of your chants and all of your shouts upon the head of America.
00:31:59.000Malcolm X said, and I quote, We live in one of the rottenest countries that has ever existed on this earth.
00:32:09.000It's the entire system that has to go.
00:32:12.000Any system that would allow such atrocities and such devilry to happen and would support it, such a system does not deserve to exist on God's earth.
00:32:24.000And so when these fools ask us if Israel has the right to exist, the chant, death to Israel, has become the most logical chant shouted across the world today.
00:32:34.000Imam Khomeini recognized that Israel is an evil settler-colonialist project?
00:32:48.000He realized it is a cancer, and he established this day.
00:32:52.000Israel before this, brothers and sisters, was a sacred cow.
00:33:44.000So, you can clearly see that, you know, those are the people that are genocidal, talking about from the river to the sea, okay?
00:33:51.000That is a genocidal chant, calling for the extermination of Jews and the Jewish state of Israel.
00:33:57.000So, you know, like when I hear people say, oh, there's genocide.
00:34:01.000By the way, today, during the hearing with Lloyd Austin, okay, our own government said that there's no evidence of genocide in Israel.
00:34:12.000Well, genocide in Gaza by the Israelis.
00:34:16.000So, you know, that's coming from Joe Biden's administration, which is inherently anti-Israel.
00:34:21.000And so it's so much propaganda, so much propaganda saying that there's genocide in Gaza, accusing the Jews of, you know, murdering innocent Palestinian children and acting as if, you know, that the Jewish people are bloodthirsty for Palestinian blood.
00:34:39.000It really honestly is blood liable to the extreme.
00:34:42.000You see that the people that actually are advocating for genocide, the people who actually are, you know, pushing for genocidal rhetoric, it's not the Jews.
00:35:32.000There is a problem with Sharia law there when you have Muslims openly talking about how the whole system has to go because, well, death to America.
00:35:41.000If you don't like it here, then go back to the war zone you came from, right?
00:36:07.000The contentious article was written by Steven Stilinski, who's a commentator on terrorism and has served as an executive director of the Middle East Media Research Institute based in Washington, D.C.
00:36:18.000That, of course, is memory, and memory is responsible for that clip that we just showed you a few moments ago.
00:36:25.000He warned in the story that Dearborn's majority Arab population ought to be paid close attention by counterterrorism agencies following October 7th.
00:36:33.000But his words have caused the mayor of the suburb to ramp up police presence outside mosques and other major civil centers because of, quote, Islamophobic threats being hurled at its majority Arab residents.
00:36:45.000The WSJ op-ed has allegedly caused an alarming increase in bigoted and Islamophobic rhetoric.
00:36:54.000So look, so they say that this article, which
00:36:58.000Fairly criticizes the Islamic population in Dearborn is Islamophobic and that it's inciting violence against Muslims.
00:37:07.000But then Muslims actually inciting violence against Jews and Christians and saying that the whole system has to go and death to America, death to our country, that's not bigoted.
00:37:17.000You see, these people, they always want to pretend to be the victim.
00:37:21.000They're always crying about what victims they are, and it's just not true.
00:37:44.000I don't really think that that is the definition of an irrational fear, because it is rational for people to have a fear of people that are actively proclaiming that they want to kill them.
00:37:59.000The Arab-American Muslim mayor said in a statement, quote, This is more than irresponsible journalism.
00:38:06.000Publishing such inflammatory writing puts Dearborn residents at increased risk for harm.
00:39:16.000According to census figures, okay, Dearborn is roughly 54% Arab American, making it one of the most densely populated areas for Middle Eastern people in the United States.
00:39:27.000It is home to the largest Muslim population in the United States per capita, as well as the largest mosque in North America.
00:39:33.000Again, not a place I plan on moving to anytime soon.
00:39:38.000In the wake of the October 7th attacks on 1,000 Israeli citizens, protests erupted in Dearborn supporting the Palestinian side.
00:39:45.000The Palestinian death toll, well, allegedly they say sits at 27,000.
00:39:49.000We don't know because everything that comes out of the Palestinians, as I like to call it, Pallywood, right?
00:40:22.000Well, it's no surprise we've talked about this here on Luma Unleashed in the past, but their number one issue, okay, that they are going to use to drive voters out to the polls is abortion.
00:40:32.000And Donald Trump was smart enough to take away from their strategy by issuing a very common-sense statement about abortion.
00:40:40.000We're going to play that statement for you tonight.
00:40:42.000But of course now the Democrats are losing their mind because they can't really box Trump into the box that they wanted to box him into.
00:40:49.000They wanted to say that Donald Trump was in favor of a national abortion ban, which is just simply not true.
00:40:55.000Thanks to President Trump, Roe v. Wade was overturned, but now the issue of abortion has been given to the states to decide.
00:41:02.000So let's go ahead and listen to what President Trump
00:41:04.000Actually said about abortion, and then we're going to see how the Democrats are spinning it in an effort to brainwash all the Zoomers.
00:41:11.000You know, this election season, Zoomers are officially going to be replacing boomers as the largest voting demographic.
00:41:16.000So let's go ahead and play the statement that President Trump released yesterday about his official stance on abortion.
00:41:24.000Under my leadership, the Republican Party will always support the creation of strong, thriving, and healthy American families.
00:41:32.000We want to make it easier for mothers and families to have babies, not harder.
00:41:37.000That includes supporting the availability of fertility treatments like IVF in every state in America.
00:41:44.000Like the overwhelming majority of Americans, including the vast majority of Republicans, conservatives, Christians, and pro-life Americans, I strongly support the availability of IVF for couples who are trying to have a precious baby.
00:42:00.000What could be more beautiful or better than that?
00:42:02.000Today I'm pleased that the Alabama legislature has acted very quickly and passed legislation that preserves the availability of IVF in Alabama.
00:42:16.000The Republican Party should always be on the side of the miracle of life and the side of mothers, fathers.
00:42:22.000They're beautiful babies and that's what we are.
00:42:25.000IVF is an important part of that and our great Republican Party will always be with you in your quest for the ultimate joy in life.
00:42:34.000Many people have asked me what my position is on abortion and abortion rights, especially since I was proudly the person responsible for the ending of something that all legal scholars, both sides, wanted and in fact demanded be ended.
00:42:55.000It must be remembered that the Democrats are the radical ones on this position because they support abortion up to and even beyond the ninth month.
00:43:04.000The concept of having an abortion in the later months and even execution after birth, and that's exactly what it is,
00:43:12.000The baby is born, the baby is executed after birth is unacceptable and almost everyone agrees with that.
00:43:21.000My view is now that we have abortion where everybody wanted it from a legal standpoint, the states will determine by vote or legislation or perhaps both
00:43:31.000And whatever they decide must be the law of the land.
00:43:39.000Many will have a different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others, and that's what they will be.
00:43:47.000At the end of the day, this is all about the will of the people.
00:43:51.000You must follow your heart or, in many cases, your religion or your faith.
00:43:56.000Do what's right for your family, and do what's right for yourself, do what's right for your children, do what's right for our country, and vote.
00:44:07.000At the end of the day, it's all about will of the people.
00:44:10.000That's where we are right now, and that's what we want, the will of the people.
00:44:14.000I want to thank the six justices, Chief Justice John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett,
00:44:24.000And Neil Gorsuch, incredible people, for having the courage to allow this long-term, hard-fought battle to finally end.
00:44:32.000This 50-year battle over Roe v. Wade took it out of the federal hands and brought it into the hearts, minds, and vote.
00:44:40.000Of the people in each state, it was really something.
00:44:43.000Now it's up to the states to do the right thing.
00:44:46.000Like Ronald Reagan, I am strongly in favor of exceptions for rape, incest, and life of the mother.
00:44:53.000You must follow your heart on this issue, but remember, you must also win elections to restore our culture, and in fact, to save our country, which is currently, and very sadly, a nation in decline.
00:47:21.000People could just carry out some personal responsibility, but I guess that's asking too much from the Democrats, right?
00:47:28.000They don't really have any accountability or personal responsibility.
00:47:31.000So clearly, right, Donald Trump's statement counters all of that.
00:47:36.000Because how can you say that Donald Trump wants a national abortion ban when he clearly said that he doesn't want a national abortion ban in his statement and he supports exceptions, right?
00:47:47.000So then, of course, today, after this Supreme Court ruling in Arizona, they attacked Carrie Lake, who is the Senate candidate.
00:47:55.000And Carrie Lake, of course, had to issue this statement.
00:47:58.000So she said, and I had a great time at her fundraiser the other night.
00:48:01.000It was a great event, probably the best political event of the season thus far.
00:48:05.000Said following today's Arizona Supreme Court's abortion ruling, Carrie Lake released the following statement.
00:48:10.000Quote, in addition to covering the state of Arizona as a fair and honest journalist for 27 years, I have traveled to every corner of the state on the campaign trail.
00:48:19.000I speak to more Arizonans than anyone and it is abundantly clear that the pre-statehood law is out of step with Arizonans.
00:48:27.000I am the only woman and mother in this race.
00:48:29.000I understand the fear and anxiety of pregnancy and the joy of motherhood.
00:48:32.000I wholeheartedly agree with President Trump.
00:48:34.000This is a very personal issue that should be determined by each individual state and her people.
00:48:40.000I oppose today's ruling and I am calling on Katie Hobbs and the state legislature to come up with an immediate common-sense solution that Arizonans can support.
00:48:49.000Ultimately, Arizona voters will make the decision on the ballot come November.
00:48:52.000As your senator, quote, I will oppose federal funding for abortion, federal bans on abortion.
00:48:58.000As your senator, I will fight for baby bonuses, making adoption more accessible and affordable, strengthening the economy so mothers can afford a baby,
00:49:07.000And the Democrats want to get all these people that really just don't have, you know, a basic understanding of civics, in a tizzy, in a fit about
00:49:31.000An issue, as Carrie Lake perfectly said, you're not going to be legislating this on the national level.
00:49:36.000It has already been returned to the states with the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
00:49:42.000But your average person really isn't going to understand that because what are the Democrats saying?
00:49:45.000They're trying to say, oh, the overturning of Roe v. Wade is a federal ban on abortion.
00:50:12.000But again, right, we never really see community notes go after the Democrats.
00:50:15.000I'm sorry, but they literally, they literally community noted me the other day because I said I didn't think that everybody was redeemable.
00:50:23.000I said that people should have to work a little bit harder and have some standards to redeem themselves if they've engaged in very degenerate or criminal behavior.
00:50:31.000And then they said, oh, Laura Loomer is Jewish and Jews believe in redemption too.
00:50:35.000It's like, okay, so you're going to community note me on my personal opinion about something related to people's behavior, but you're not going to community note the Democrats right here.
00:50:45.000I would really like to see Community Notes improve their system a bit because, you know, I think that sometimes Community Notes are used unfairly against conservatives, and then the Democrats are allowed to just lie about everything.
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00:53:12.000Before Joe Exotic calls us from jail, I want to take a couple super chats because I noticed that some of you are very active and excited in the chat.
00:57:39.000Just explain because, you know, a lot of people, they came to know you.
00:57:43.000Some people don't know you, but a lot of people, I think everybody, you are, you are the person that got us through the COVID lockdowns, right?
00:57:51.000I remember when the first 15 days to slow the spread happened.
00:57:54.000The first thing I did was I binge watched Tiger King on Netflix.
00:57:59.000A lot of people formed a very intimate relationship with you and got to know you and your story, but unfortunately, right, with the sensation and the fame has come kind of this like wrongful perception and a hindrance of your ability to receive a fair trial, and that's why we're gonna have you on tonight to talk about this and clear some of this up.
00:58:19.000But maybe you can just give a synopsis really quick of your story and your situation for our viewers right now.
00:58:29.000Lord, first of all, do I have to watch my language, or is this open mic?
00:58:51.000No, you know, the first thing that we have, we need everybody to realize is, you know, everybody says that I got you all through the COVID lockdown, you know, but remember that I'm a real human being.
00:59:05.000I'm not just an object or a fiction character on television.
00:59:11.000Because Netflix did this, and we have the evidence now, Netflix paid
00:59:19.000These people, even during my trial, to keep the narrative going so they could make a movie.
00:59:28.000I had no part in even knowing that this Tiger King thing was even coming out.
00:59:33.000They used the footage, and everything you saw of me and Tiger King was raw, uncut, Joe Exotic, you know?
00:59:41.000I'm the crazy, loud-mouthed person that you actually saw.
00:59:47.000The footage that you saw was from my reality show that I was filming for and unfortunately my husband at the time got greedy and signed a contract for Netflix and sold that to Netflix and then run off and left me here.
01:00:07.000Well, and that's, you know, that's the thing is that people, because of the sensationalism around the Tiger King episode, people tend to forget the fact that you are a human being with emotions and you are a person that has been railroaded.
01:00:19.000And so while other people were enjoying this sensational show on Netflix, you've actually been living a horror show.
01:00:27.000You have been subjected to abuse and torture in jail, solitary confinement.
01:00:33.000You actually, I have a lot of questions for you tonight.
01:00:36.000Speaking with you the other night, you told me on the phone that you are actually in jail in Texas, where you're going to be returning after the 23rd of April with at least 11 January 6th political prisoners.
01:00:49.000Can you tell us a little bit about that?
01:00:53.000I'm in an open campus facility there at the Federal Medical Center in Fort Worth, Texas with about 1,400 to 1,500 inmates.
01:01:06.000And there's about 11 January pictures there, you know.
01:01:10.000Some of them I have pictures of me and them on my social media.
01:01:14.000And, you know, they are hell-bent devoted Trumpsters, let me tell you.
01:01:22.000But right now, and I'm not the only person that has been subjected to living like a rat in federal prison and put in solitary confinement and punished and tortured.
01:01:35.000They have been too, right along with 165,000 other people that are in federal debt.
01:01:44.000And they want to hear more about not only President Trump got on television here a while back and vowed to pardon them, but they want, just right along with me, they want to hear President Trump get on television
01:02:09.000I've followed Trump since before he ran in 2016, you know?
01:02:15.000And I've heard him say time and time and time again about January 6th being in solitaire and how wrong it is.
01:02:25.000And let me tell you, I have the evidence in photos and videos from inside of how wrong this is.
01:02:48.000And they are not only hoping that he lets them out, but they're hoping that they get him to fix what they have been, what we have been through, what they have been through.
01:03:48.000Uh, and I would have voted for President Trump in 2020.
01:03:52.000You need to remember one thing, and I need President Trump to remember one thing.
01:03:58.000And now he's getting a little taste of it.
01:04:00.000He's getting a big taste of it, actually.
01:04:03.00091 felony indictments is absurd, okay?
01:04:07.000But he needs to remember that his appointed judge, his appointed Attorney General William Barr, and his appointed U.S.
01:04:15.000Attorney are the ones who did this to me, okay?
01:04:18.000It was his administration that did this to me.
01:04:21.000So if he gets in, which I hope he does, he's got to be a little more careful about who he appoints in different positions.
01:04:30.000Because just because you're appointed by a certain person or you're in the Republican Party, as he can see by now by the people that are prosecuting him, you can't just trust everybody.
01:04:44.000You know, and look, there's a lot of criticisms.
01:04:46.000President Trump's the greatest president of my lifetime.
01:04:49.000I truly believe he's the greatest president ever.
01:04:51.000But one of the biggest criticisms of his first administration were some of the personnel.
01:04:57.000And a lot of the diehard Trumpers, myself included, you know, have those same criticisms.
01:05:01.000And so I also would like to see better personnel choices.
01:05:05.000And I think that, as you said, you just said perfectly, President Trump is getting a big taste, right?
01:05:10.000Of what it feels like to be treated like a political prisoner in America, and a lot of the people who he thought that he could trust are the people now that are working against him to try to jail him.
01:05:21.000And so, I think that... But you know, anybody... But Laura, anybody with an opinion, or anybody that makes a difference in this country, and doesn't want to conform to the normal corrupt bullshit,
01:05:52.000You know, regardless of what anybody thinks, Andrew Tate has an opinion and he's been jailed too now.
01:05:58.000You know, and, and Andrew Tate has financially really helped me out through this nightmare.
01:06:05.000Oh, Ralph, can you tell us about that?
01:06:08.000In America, you can't have an opinion of your own, because the government will shut you up.
01:06:15.000Yeah, Andrew Tate, he has paid my bills to keep me alive in here for over two years.
01:06:23.000He is handing up, publicly, two million dollars to any lawyer that can get me the hell out of here.
01:06:33.000Hey, for somebody that has an opinion and people think that he's just a little bit out there, to not hate a gay man that's in prison and do what Andrew Tate has done for me, says a lot.
01:06:52.000Who else has been supportive of you, if you don't mind sharing with us?
01:06:57.000Because, you know, you've been, a lot of people may not know this, you are suffering with cancer, you were diagnosed with cancer, and we hope that, you know, that you will recover.
01:07:07.000But, you know, not only are you being put in solitary confinement just as a human being, which I think is a form of torture, I personally think that solitary confinement should be outlawed.
01:07:17.000You know where we're wrong in this whole system is?
01:07:46.000People, there's just 40,000 people, I bet, in federal prison on conspiracy charges to distribute 300 pounds of methamphetamines.
01:07:57.000Where in the hell would you even store 360,000 pounds of methamphetamines?
01:08:03.000Okay, ghost dope, there's more people, we have split up more families, and we are having taxpayers pay more money than people kept in federal prison for conspiracy.
01:08:15.000Why can you convict somebody in federal prison on hearsay and in a state trial you can't?
01:08:43.000And why can you not have a camera in federal courtroom and in a state trial you can?
01:08:48.000Because the feds don't want all this corruption documented.
01:08:52.000I bet President Trump would agree with you on cameras in the federal courtroom because look at the way that they're attacking President Trump and I think that the media needs to, there does need to be cameras in the federal courtroom especially with President Trump's trials because look they're using this as a way to interfere in our election.
01:10:19.000I had to use a public defender that came and seen me four times before they put me on trial and gave me a life sentence.
01:10:26.000We have a link here, though, too, where people can support you, and what is the best way where people can donate?
01:10:33.000We're going to put those up on the screen, too.
01:10:35.000If you're listening to this interview, and please, you guys, this is a really eye-opening interview.
01:10:39.000We have Joe Exotic, otherwise known as, well, his name is Joe Maldonado, otherwise known as the Tiger King, live from jail, and he's going to have to reconnect every 15 minutes when the phone call goes out.
01:12:42.000Every team of lawyers I've had has watched Netflix and came up with their own scenario.
01:12:49.000Not one time, Laura, has a lawyer sit down with me and spread out the evidence on a table and let me show them how this all happened to me.
01:12:59.000I have half a million dollars in lawyers.
01:13:04.000One of the things that I wanted to show in your defense, and I guess this was not shown during your trial, you know, when I said that I was going to have you on, I received a lot of backlash and people said, Oh, how could you have, you know, this man on, he's an animal abuser, and I'm going to give you a chance to respond to the people that have accused you of being an animal abuser.
01:13:22.000But before I do that, you know, the reason why people call you an animal abuser is because they say that you shot and killed five tigers, but what they don't,
01:13:30.000No, and what they haven't seen because it wasn't shown during your trial, and I have it in front of me right now on screen.
01:13:36.000You can't see it, Joe, but I am showing everybody.
01:13:39.000It's a veterinarian protocol from a Dr. Joanne Green, and this is from a licensed veterinarian.
01:13:59.000I want to go ahead and read this and explain it and then you can, you know, you can clarify.
01:14:03.000But essentially, right, the veterinarian gave you authorization to shoot these tigers in the head because that is apparently the most humane way to put an animal down, a large animal like that, if the veterinarian can't get their
01:14:17.000In the case of an emergency on time to euthanize the animal with injection.
01:14:21.000And so you had said that you shot these tigers with a gun, obviously in the head, because you said that was the most humane way to euthanize these tigers, but they never showed this document in your trial.
01:14:35.000What can you say about this and this authorization form that was given to you by the veterinarian by the name of Dr. Joanne Green?
01:14:45.000You know, first of all, I'm not in here for animal abuse, and I'm not in here for animal cruelty.
01:14:51.000I'm in here because a federal game warden needed to come up with some kind of charge to put me in jail, and that was to take an endangered species with that apartment.
01:15:40.000Anybody that thinks I'm an animal abuser can kiss my butt.
01:15:44.000They need to go to JoeExoticTV on YouTube and watch my real videos of me doing CPR on tigers and chimpanzees and armadillos and everything else in order to save their lives.
01:15:57.000If you were suffering, Laura, if you were laying there suffering, I'd shoot you.
01:19:09.000We have to load a dart that's as big around as your finger, it's about 8 inches long, it's got an inch and a half, 14 gauge needle, which is huge on the end of it, and halfway down that it's got a gel cap, okay?
01:19:22.000And that, and that, what that does is when it hits the animal it goes so hard and so fast that that jail cap goes into the animal and it keeps the dart from falling out.
01:19:32.000And this thing has a 22 gauge primer in it and it gets so hot and it goes so fast that when it hits the animal they climb the fence, they run around screaming and growling and hollering because it hurts!
01:19:46.000Now, depending on how fat, how fat the animal is, how skinny the animal is,
01:20:02.000With darts in order to get them to go to sleep.
01:20:05.000And during this process that takes about 45 minutes to an hour, the whole time they're having seizures and convulsion and they're throwing up and it's crazy to see them go through this.
01:20:18.000So a veterinarian can walk in and kill them.
01:20:22.000These animals were my kids for 23 years, okay?
01:20:26.000And I had to face the fact of either PETA and the Humane Society of the United States and Carol filing charges on me for animal cruelty, for keeping them alive, to keep them in a cage, to make money off of them, or put them down.
01:20:40.000And my USDA inspector said to put them down.
01:20:43.000But that bitch couldn't be found when it comes time for my trial.
01:20:48.000Okay, how do you not fine to subpoena a federal employee?
01:20:55.000So I had to defend myself in front of a jury of 12 people that are not my peers, because they were secretaries, they were housewives, and they were security guards.
01:21:06.000A jury of my peers and a jury of Trump's peers.
01:21:30.000It doesn't mean that I'm 55 years old and never had a speeding ticket should be tried by a 23-year-old housewife that might hate gay people.
01:21:41.000So do you then feel that the media circus around your trial has negatively impacted your ability to get a fair trial in America?
01:21:52.000Because the minute they got me arrested, and we have the evidence, and it's on that website, JoeExoticOfficial.com, in phone recordings and text messages, we have the evidence.
01:22:02.000Of the game wardens, the federal game warden, Agent Bryant, telling James and Jeff and Lauren and Alan that they will never convict me of murder for hire without that animal charged on top of me to get the heartstrings of the jury.
01:22:35.000They dug them up and they only cut their heads off.
01:22:38.000And so that way they had bullet holes where the heads were and they left the bodies there.
01:22:43.000They didn't do autopsies on the bodies to show how crippled they were and how old they were or nothing like that.
01:22:49.000They just paraded five heads of tigers, wadded heads,
01:22:54.000With an arrow through him, where the bullet was, went through in front of a jury to make me look like this horrible monster.
01:23:02.000Yeah, and you're not going to be able to tell the cause of death in terms of, you know, the natural causes leading up to what would have been their natural death if you don't do an autopsy.
01:23:11.000And so, of course, if you're just showing a decapitated head, you know, did they tell them that they'd chopped the heads off?
01:23:18.000Or are people going to think that you chopped the heads off, right?
01:23:21.000So there really is this sensationalized aspect of it that tries to make you look like a villain here.
01:23:27.000You know, it's the same thing whether it's an animal rights person trying me with a dead animal head or Stormy Daniels on the stand saying Trump sexually abused her.
01:23:58.000Every time you see them on television in a courtroom in Russia, how are they dressed?
01:24:03.000They're dressed in their own street clothes.
01:24:06.000And they're not shackled on their ankles.
01:24:08.000They're not shackled around their bellies and chained up around their bellies.
01:24:12.000They simply have a pair of handcuffs on and in their own street clothes.
01:24:18.000In America, you're put in an orange jumpsuit, and you're shackled around your ankles, you're shackled around your belly, and you're shackled around your belly to the handcuffs, and you're made to look guilty from the minute you walk in that courtroom.
01:24:33.000Yeah, I don't think that you're wrong.
01:24:36.000And, you know, tell people, you were talking earlier about how Andrew Tate has helped you.
01:24:41.000Who are some other people who have helped you get through this?
01:24:44.000Because it must be really traumatic, you know, being in jail, having the world think that you're a monster, and then half the people thinking of you as some kind of circus act and not really taking it seriously.
01:24:57.000Andrew Tate has financially helped me a lot.
01:25:57.000And I don't understand when I have video confession of, and in part two of Tiger King, the hitman took the lawyers and the film crew to the zoo and showed them where he hid a murder weapon that him and Jeff had planned to kill me if this murder for hireship didn't work.
01:27:18.000I just need my sentence commuted or clemency because I can go and be successful as a felon because I don't have a drug problem, I don't need a gun, all that shit.
01:27:48.000Joe Exotic is not going to go away that easy.
01:27:51.000I want to testify in front of Congress.
01:27:53.000And President Trump, if you can hear me right now, yes, I have been caught in here with two cell phones, and it's probably the best thing that's ever happened because
01:28:04.000I have enough video and photo evidence of what really goes on in here to really fuck up President Biden's campaign right now.
01:28:14.000Because he promised prison and justice reform.
01:28:18.000And if you do hear me, and you want my team to come to Mar-a-Lago and show you this evidence, they are willing and ready and able.
01:30:08.000There's an act right now standing in committee doing nothing called the Safe Detention Act for people that are 60 years old and over that's done half of their time that could go home.
01:30:23.000Because you're keeping this country, not just you, but your country, that we love so much, is keeping people in prison that are laying in beds, vegetables, that don't even know they're alive.
01:30:35.000And the taxpayers are paying this bill.
01:30:40.000So do you think that... He is the only man, he is the only man that has even made an effort to change the system.
01:30:47.000And I'm praying to God he gets in there, okay?
01:30:50.000But I'm really worried they're gonna fuck him over, okay?
01:30:54.000You don't throw 91 felony indictments at a wall and hope that at least three or four stick.
01:30:59.000That's just the way the government works.
01:31:02.000I just pray he makes it through this because there's days that I wake up and I see more shit on the news and I'm like, they're gonna screw him over.
01:31:11.000They're definitely gonna screw him over.
01:31:14.000So you're endorsing President Trump for president in 2024?
01:31:19.000I am telling you, I'm still running, okay?
01:31:25.000And I have a lot of people rallying up.
01:31:28.000I'm telling you, if President Trump would acknowledge that things are gonna be changed this time, instead of just scream, lock her up, and then when he gets in there, he got soft on me, if he would commit to making my wrong right somehow, some way,
01:31:46.000And we are going to change this system even if it's put me in a position to help change this position for the other 165,000 people that are stuck in here.
01:31:56.000I would suspend my campaign and I could get my 34 million influencers behind them.
01:32:05.000So you would like to have a position working with the Trump campaign even from within your jail cell on criminal justice reform and then
01:32:12.000Hopefully, if you get a pardon during the second Trump administration, you would like to be some type of advisor.
01:32:19.000Look, I don't want to work in his cabinet or something from my jail cell.
01:32:26.000Once he becomes president, and he lets the January 6-ers out after they've actually done something, he'd better damn let me out the first day, too.
01:32:41.000Yeah, I support a pardon for all J6ers, and I support a pardon for Joe Exotic, and I think that that would be great.
01:32:47.000Look, if Kim Kardashian, who let's be honest, I don't really think she did much, in my opinion, I don't really think that she did much, but if Kim Kardashian can go to the White House and work with the Trump administration on criminal justice reform, I think that you're doing a lot more from your own jail cell.
01:33:13.000And I'm not gonna shut up and go away until it gets better for them.
01:33:19.000If you look at my social media, at the bloody pictures from where a county jail with a federal contract tied me naked in a chair and put me in the shower so long that the skin came off of my arms, and they did the same thing to a 20-year-old named Justin Teo,
01:33:38.000Except they gave him a towel, and he hung himself.
01:33:44.000And to this day, I communicate with his family.
01:33:48.000And what happened to him, and what happened to me, and what happened to everyone else that has been tied in a chair naked, and put in a shower in a dark room, because they can?
01:34:07.000Grady County Jail in Chickasha, Oklahoma.
01:34:10.000And if you Google Justin Teo, Channel 9 News, Oklahoma City, you can watch the videos of that kid screaming for help.
01:34:22.000You know, speaking with you the other night from the jail, Joe, you told me that you and the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, were actually in the same jail together in North Carolina.
01:36:59.000And I am the director, and this is going to be about the truth of what led up to this.
01:37:06.000It's going to be about the truth... You have one minute remaining.
01:37:10.000It's going to be about the truth of what goes on in here, and it's going to be about the truth when I get out of here, how hard it was to make it out alive.
01:39:04.000I said let me repeat myself in case they didn't hear me the first time.
01:39:08.000It would be very smart for President Trump
01:39:11.000I can meet with my team and they can come to Mar-a-Lago and look at the evidence I have from in here of how the people that risk their lives and their freedom live for him.
01:40:01.000Would you be willing, as you know I'm an investigative journalist, and I was just at Mar-a-Lago last week where President Trump gave me a nice shout-out, and would you be willing to share the information with me, and perhaps I could also share the information with President Trump's team, or pass it along?
01:40:17.000If the man's serious, and he really, look, if he were to pardon me six months before 2020, like he said he was going to, and like Sean Hannity said, I was on the list to be pardoned,
01:40:31.000I had to call Georgia for 11,000 votes.
01:40:33.000Because right now I control the black vote.
01:41:00.000I hope that his legal team is willing to meet with you and accept the evidence, but I just wanted to make myself available to you as a resource as well in case you ever needed anybody to help disseminate anything.
01:41:12.000I could put this on Newsmax and Fox and CNN and World News and the BBC and I could expose it all if that's the route that I have to take.
01:41:24.000But I would rather somebody with a little clout, a little power, other than just Joe Exotic sitting in jail with his cell phone, being able to do this.
01:41:36.000It's an election time, and it's politics, and don't take me to think I'm stupid because I'm in jail, because I'm just as good of a politician as anybody else, alright?
01:41:48.000I can play hardball, and I'm gonna play hardball because this is my life.
01:42:07.000It is quite ridiculous and I don't think anyone really thinks you're stupid.
01:42:11.000I think that you've been a victim of sensationalized media coverage and they wanted to make you out to be like a circus caricature in the show Tiger King, but one of the main
01:42:23.000Yeah, they made me look like an idiot, a crazy bastard that owned tigers so they could pass this law.
01:42:29.000Because the minute that Tiger King came out and they got me arrested, they nicknamed the Big Cat Safety Act the Tiger King Bill.
01:42:41.000Okay, and the Trump team and any lawyers that are listening to this, you need to understand how this all works because Dan Ashe, the director of the Federal Fish and Wildlife, is the one who put this in motion.
01:42:53.000Because, at the time, he was a government employee at a very high place.
01:42:58.000He was also the president of the AZA, the American Zoological Association.
01:43:02.000And him and Carol Baskin put together the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries, and they passed this law, and they got Joe Putt in prison to pass this law, and now, guess who's exempt from that law?
01:43:16.000The AZA and the Global Federation of Animal Sanctuaries.
01:43:19.000So, the government has created an illegal monopoly
01:43:45.000Yeah, I think that, uh, I think this has been a very eye-opening interview for a lot of people.
01:43:50.000You know, a lot of this took place in, in Florida as well, in terms of, uh, well, in terms of a lot of the coverage with, uh, with regards to Carol Baskin, and as you said, a lot of Florida politicians have been, uh, you know, have been vocal about your situation.
01:44:06.000Has Governor Ron DeSantis done anything to help you, or what has been your experience with Governor Ron DeSantis?
01:44:13.000And that's one reason why I need to know before I put all of my supporters and my fans at risk by endorsing President Trump right now.
01:44:23.000I need to know who his Vice President pick is going to be.
01:44:26.000Because if it's Ron DeSantis, I will never vote for Trump.
01:45:27.000And you're right, he actually, he passed that law.
01:45:30.000Okay, the resign to run law was in tact so that it prevented the governor of Florida from running for president and keeping his job.
01:45:38.000And then he had the Florida legislature change the law, so you're right, he is a dictator.
01:45:42.000I think that if there's anyone in this country that united the left and the right on anything, it's their hatred for Ron DeSantis.
01:45:49.000You know, aside from his proclamations of trying to repeal the First Step Act as well, have you had any interaction with his office or any personal interaction?
01:46:52.000Now, you take 200, 300 federal inmates because they have a federal holdover contract and they're paying, the feds are paying $50, $60 a day for me to be here?
01:47:09.000Times that by two, three hundred a day.
01:47:12.000Because in Oklahoma they got four to six hundred in each jail.
01:47:18.000Because it's not going to the food, and it's not going to get painted because the black mold is fucking everywhere, and it's not going to fix the showers because we have 50 people in one shower.
01:47:32.000So the taxpayers are getting double taxed.
01:47:34.000They're getting paid, they're getting taxed locally for covering the jail, and federally because they have federal contracts because the jail needs to profit so they can all drive brand new police cars home into Walmart.
01:47:49.000Joe, what do you think is the biggest misconception about you?
01:47:52.000That's what a politician needs to be talking about.
01:47:57.000You know, if you want to save the taxpayers money, let's start cutting the shoestrings off the feds.
01:48:04.000What do you think, Joe, is the biggest misconception about you in terms of how you've been portrayed in the media and throughout your entire legal battle?
01:48:41.000Sure, I had flashy clothes because that's me, alright?
01:48:46.000But if they think the money and the fame is what got me here, they're wrong because I ate out of that meat truck right along with those animals.
01:48:58.000I gave up everything to take care of those animals.
01:49:02.000And you know who got screwed in this situation?
01:49:06.000Because my brother, Jerry, and my niece, Chelsea, both helped Carol and Jeff set me up to do this because they were worried about getting mom and dad spending their inheritance on that zoo.
01:49:20.000Because they were so jealous of that zoo, they won't even call mom, mom.
01:49:40.000They put them in separate nursing homes so they couldn't talk and communicate.
01:49:44.000And then they took their house and their land, and all of the mental rights and land in Kansas, and they signed the zoo over to Carol so she could destroy it.
01:49:53.000And my mom and dad died separately and never got to say goodbye to each other over greed and fucking money over my family.
01:50:25.000If I could find the lawyers right now to sue Netflix, because again, we have the evidence of the producers of Netflix paying the witnesses.
01:51:35.000When I divorced Dylan, Dylan signed the contract because they wouldn't let me sign the contract because they claimed the son-of-fan law, which is bullshit.
01:51:44.000And as long as you don't make money on your crime, it's fine.
01:51:47.000Okay, but they wouldn't let me sign the contract.
01:51:50.000So Dylan signed the contract because he was my legal husband.
01:51:55.000When I filed for divorce, keep in mind, when I met him, he was homeless, covered in syphilis, and sleeping on an air mattress at a friend's house.
01:52:05.000I brought him to the zoo, cleaned him up, and everything else.
01:52:09.000And when I divorced him, $2.6 million worth of assets.
01:52:18.000And so that's another misconception people have too, is a lot of people think, oh, he made all this money off of Tiger King, but you didn't get anything.
01:53:17.000And it's about free Joe Exotic and end solitary confinement.
01:53:21.000But the main message I want to send to both President Trump and President Biden is how fed up people are with this.
01:53:30.000This is going to be the first that you're going to see a voting citizen saying, look, we're not going to vote unless somebody steps up and admits to fixing this.
01:54:05.000I want a real promise that we're going to not fix this just for me.
01:54:08.000We're going to fix this for everybody that's incarcerated in this country, because whether they broke the law or not, they don't deserve to be treated any crueler than you do your dog at a Humane Society shelter.
01:54:23.000What are your top three or four items for criminal justice reform?
01:54:27.000If you could just wave a magic wand or let's just say Trump gets back into office and he's able to do the four things that you want him to do with regards to criminal justice reform, what would they be?
01:54:38.000I would stop the FBI from being able to charge people with conspiracy unless it's a major mafia like it was intended to be with the RICO Act.
01:54:50.000I would allow cameras in the courtroom and bail.
01:57:05.000If we do, you're going to see World War III.
01:57:08.000Because right now, Joe Biden has traded so much money and so many deadly prisoners for other prisoners, they've got him wrapped around their finger, dude.
01:57:20.000I don't know if it's because they've got dirt on him or what it is, but when you attack 185-plus military bases in the Middle East and around the world and we don't do anything about it, they're definitely not scared of us anymore.
01:57:36.000No, I think that we're going to get attacked.
01:57:38.000At least I can say, when President Trump was there, you know, whether he called North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un... You have one minute remaining.
01:57:49.000Whether he called him Little Rocket Man and everybody thought it was funny, you didn't see him doing a ballistic missile test, did you?
01:59:30.000while we're waiting for Joe to call back.
01:59:34.000I found myself to be the subject of a pretty big meme that went around because I asked and made a joke on a radio show about you possibly pardoning the Tiger King.
01:59:44.000Have you familiarized yourself with the situation and is there a possibility for a pardon?
01:59:49.000Well, based on my relationship with you, I have.
02:01:11.000So, Joe... At some point, Laura, I would like to explain to you what was really going on at the zoo and what evidence we have to back that up and why I left the zoo before we finish tonight.
02:01:34.000He was gonna be buying a sanctuary in Colorado, okay?
02:01:38.000And he flew me out there to look at the sanctuary.
02:01:41.000And I get out there, and he's got this great big mansion, Ferrari in the driveway, a Hummer in the driveway, an indoor swimming pool in his house, and all this shit, okay?
02:01:51.000Well, anyway, the sanctuary thing fell through.
02:01:53.000And he called me and asked me, Joe, would you be interested in selling you a zoo?
02:02:19.000And this is where Lauren pops in the scenario, because I never knew Lauren before this.
02:02:25.000Lauren pops in, bells him out, and come to find out
02:02:28.000They had to move to the zoo and live in my house because they had nowhere to go.
02:02:33.000Come to find out, everything in Colorado was rented, and he was behind on payments on everything, including the cars and shit.
02:02:40.000Alright, so he had nothing, and his name's already on my zoo.
02:02:44.000So now I'm stuck with living with this man, alright?
02:02:48.000So, a couple months go by, and they buy portable buildings and make them a little cabin there on the zoo.
02:02:55.000Alright, and as a couple months go by,
02:02:58.000We finally find out what Lauren and Jeff are really all about, okay?
02:03:02.000And that is luring young women off of the internet to the zoo to pet baby tigers and then get them over to their cabin and drug them and have sex with them and videotape it to blackmail them to keep their mouths shut.
02:03:20.000And it got to the point, and you can ask Saf this, Saf changed the combination to the safe so he couldn't get
02:03:28.000Anywhere near the ketamine that we use to tranquilize animals with.
02:03:33.000Alright, so this just kept progressing and progressing and progressing.
02:03:37.000And then James Garrison pops in the scenario.
02:03:40.000And he is stealing people's identities and opening up credit card lines online with Bowflex and Wayfair and Care Credit.
02:03:52.000I mean, to the tunes of hundreds of thousands of dollars.
02:03:56.000And they sit in the office all day long, running people's credit cards up, and luring these girls to the zoo, okay?
02:04:04.000So one day, they get this girl to come from Las Vegas, okay?
02:04:08.000They pay for her flight, they pick her up at the airport, and it turns out to be an elderly Asian woman, doing the same damn thing they were doing.
02:04:17.000And this is in Alan's affidavit, because he tried to tell the feds to back up my story, and they weren't interested, okay?
02:04:26.000So they get this woman over to their cabin, and I'm not sure if they drugged her or she just fell asleep, but they went through her suitcase and they found a book with over 75 young Asian girls with pictures in it, with measurements to their boobs, their waist, their shoes, and everything.
02:04:43.000And she turned out to be sex trafficking girls from Thailand in Las Vegas.
02:04:49.000So Jeff and Lauren are like, they hit the goldmine.
02:04:53.000And the next morning when the lady came to the office, Jeff stands on the porch with her book and says, look, you're either going to turn me, I'm going to turn you in, or you're going to cut me in.
02:05:04.000The next day, they were off to Vegas, buddy.
02:05:07.000And all of those leases that are in evidence that John Phillips has dug up now from Las Vegas, where they were living, that are under fake names,
02:05:17.000That we now have the IDs that James Garrison was putting his picture on Chinese and Asian people's names, their driver's licenses, and rent in these houses to do this sex trafficking and shit in Las Vegas.
02:05:38.000They've turned my zoo into this horrible enterprise.
02:05:42.000And if you look on JoeExoticOfficial.com, there's actually phone calls.
02:05:47.000Lauren recorded Jeff during their fight because they turned their phones over and they thought they deleted everything but they didn't delete the back side and my lawyer retrieved 416 phone recordings and there's phone recordings of Lauren and Jeff fighting trying to blackmail each other saying how they raped all of these girls.
02:07:05.000Uh, June the 16th of 2018, I walked away.
02:07:08.000And I took Dylan, I came to Florida, I rented a house in my real name, I rented a post office box in my real name, I got a job under my real name, at Pegg Lake Beach, on the beach, washing dishes, and I was perfectly happy.
02:08:05.000That's why we need President Trump back in office because the Democrats in the deep state have completely tried to light our Constitution on fire.
02:09:29.000You know, if he's going to get this vote from all of these people and their friends and family that are incarcerated in this country and being treated bad, and got the raw deal, just like the January Sixers, if he thinks that's their case, they need to hear it on TV.
02:09:45.000It's time he starts talking about justice and prison reform.
02:09:50.000So what do you want to hear him say specifically?
02:09:57.000Forget about Joe Biden snipping kids' heads and eating ice cream cones and tripping off a sage.
02:11:55.000And, you know, let's just throw Brittany Griner back in there again, okay?
02:11:59.000If we want to discuss how horrible another country's justice system is, with their 99% conviction rate, our conviction rate is 98%, okay?
02:12:10.000Brittany Griner left America with illegal drugs,
02:12:14.000She landed in Russia, she got detained, she got arrested, she got charged, she went to, she pled guilty, she got sentenced, she appealed it, and she got released in ten months!
02:12:33.000Yeah, it's definitely not a fair system.
02:12:36.000And the prioritization, too, if you look at the people who Joe Biden has pardoned this last year, the only three people that Joe Biden has pardoned, believe it or not, are turkeys, okay, on Thanksgiving on the White House lawn, and three Iranians in a deal with the Iranian regime.
02:13:48.000It's definitely out of control, and I think that criminal justice reform and weaponized government, specifically weaponized government, are issues that are going to drive a lot of people to the polls, especially a lot of first-time voters.
02:14:27.000We're tired of politicians lying to us.
02:14:31.000Who the hell needs 3,000 new bills a year?
02:14:36.000When are we going to stop imposing laws upon the citizens' rights?
02:14:44.000Well, I think that... You can't even sell milk to your neighbor nowadays.
02:14:48.000I think that Donald Trump is our only hope.
02:14:51.000I think, personally, I believe that Donald Trump is our only hope if we want to get pardons for the J6ers, if we want to get pardons for people like you, and we want to rectify our broken justice system because, as you said eloquently before, Joan, you're correct, Donald Trump has gotten a taste of what so many other Americans like yourself and the J6ers are going through.
02:15:14.000And I think that maybe his perspective now that he has been subjected to this injustice personally has probably changed and he's probably more sympathetic to you than maybe he was.
02:15:27.000I'm really hoping that that's the case, Laura.
02:15:31.000You know, by having his lawyers turn against him, his Department of Justice attorney, you know, William Barr turn against him, man,
02:15:42.000If we can get him in there, let's get some normal people in there, okay?
02:15:48.000That come from the same background he did of working their ass off instead of born with a golden spoon in their mouth in the politic world.
02:15:57.000Let's get some farmers in there and some people that actually know how this country runs.
02:18:49.000You know, and the part that Netflix obviously didn't show a lot enough of, and what people don't know enough of,
02:18:58.000For 23 years I had that soup and I opened it up every Thanksgiving and every Christmas for free to the people that had nowhere to go.
02:19:06.000And I cooked five turkeys, the potatoes, the bean casserole, everything to go with it to feed people for free.
02:19:14.000And then every Christmas night I did the same thing except I loaded my limo full of paper plates wrapped in aluminum foil with a turkey dinner on there and we drove to Oklahoma City
02:19:27.000And drove around downtown and gave it to people sleeping under tarps on the sidewalks.
02:20:02.000And I gave stuffed tigers to the kids that were dying of cancer.
02:20:06.000I had an organization called Animal Miracle Network where we granted last wishes for kids and adults that were dying that needed a last wish that couldn't get on Make-A-Wish Foundation's list.
02:20:18.000I busted my ass to do what was right because that's the way I was raised.
02:20:24.000That's the way my brother taught me to do it.
02:20:26.000We've got 15 more minutes and that's it.
02:20:29.000So we're going to do the last 15 minutes.
02:20:31.000We're going to do the last 15 minutes, but let's go to the chat really quick.
02:20:57.000Let's go to the chat and take a couple questions and see what some of you are saying because we have 15 more minutes with Joe before he has to log off for the night.
02:21:08.000Let's scroll down and look at the comments.
02:21:15.000You guys scroll down please in the chat.
02:21:40.000Yeah, we are live right now, you guys, so please reshare the stream because we have 15 more minutes left, and then, of course, that's going to be the end of the show.
02:21:49.000But Joe is calling right now, so we're going to do these last 15 minutes with him.
02:22:10.000And so, Joe, you know, people in the chat agree.
02:22:13.000They think that you're a great person.
02:22:14.000They think that you have been demonized.
02:22:16.000And it's very touching what you, you know, what you told me about everything that you would do for people on the holidays who didn't have family members or people that were in the hospital dying from cancer.
02:22:27.000And so I want to make sure that we use these next 15 minutes, and I hope to have you back on the show again, but I want to use these next 15 minutes so that you can spend more time telling people about who the real Joe Maldonado is and some of the misconceptions people have about you.
02:22:46.000But you know, Laura, everything that I did, I didn't do it for the praise or the pat on the back.
02:24:08.000And one thing I have to lose about putting all of my eggs in one basket right now is President Biden is the power to be right now that could make this good for me and send me home before November, okay?
02:24:23.000And if President Trump loses, yeah, Joe just cuts both feet off because he put all of his eggs in one basket.
02:24:30.000So I need President Trump and his team to really step up, mister, okay?
02:24:38.000Look at the evidence that I have that my team can bring and show you.
02:24:42.000And then get on television and say you're gonna fix this.
02:24:47.000Because people in America should not be living like this when billions and billions of their tax dollars are paying for their loved ones to be in here.
02:24:57.000It's just not gonna happen any other way.
02:25:24.000Because every time I get somebody on my team and they're acknowledged, Jeff and James and that whole crew that want to be movie stars attack them viciously.
02:25:36.000You've seen what they did to my attorneys.
02:25:41.000It's insane what the government has unleashed by protecting these people.
02:25:48.000One thing that's kind of funny, and I'm going to throw that out there for a little bit of humor, you know?
02:25:57.000Jeff Lowe's favorite thing to say on the internet, and he's done interviews like that too, that Joe had sex with animals, he's into bestiality, and all that bullshit.
02:26:27.000Uh, just because you have a guilty conscience, doesn't mean I have a guilty conscience.
02:26:32.000And one thing that you- the world needs to learn about Jeff Lowe, and- and one thing that really pissed me off was that Ghost Hunters episode where they went to the zoo, you know, looking for ghosts and a dead body.
02:26:52.000And they wanted to make a ma- a mobby,
02:26:55.000Out of Travis's death, of whether or not his ghost was around that zoo, but the thing that you really needed to pay attention and zero in on, if anybody knows Jeff Lowe, is he wanted to pin somebody was buried at that park that John Finley and Sap killed from crawling the fence, an animal rights person.
02:27:17.000And to this day, as much as I know about Jeff Lowe, I can tell you, there's somebody buried at that zoo that they overdosed
02:27:29.000So, if you have a missing child, uh, between 18 and 25, uh, in Oklahoma, and I've tried to get the feds to subpoena his bank records for airplane tickets, who he's all bought airplane tickets for, if somebody's missing, I would almost bet my freedom on there's somebody buried at that zoo.
02:27:55.000And what's the address for people listening right now?
02:28:46.000To have to blame somebody else so he can sleep at night, it would have to be a young girl that they drugged and overdosed.
02:28:55.000And if you look at Alan's confession, the videos on JoeExoticOfficial.com, and you listen to... You know Carol Baskin posted two recordings of just a month ago that we downloaded and saved before she deleted them?
02:29:15.000I got these phone calls, recordings from Alan Glover and Ashley Webster.
02:29:20.000And she's had this evidence to prove I'm innocent for over two years.
02:29:24.000But if you listen to Alan, and the way he confesses, and his voice when he says, Jeff and I belong in prison for everything we've done, I believe Alan knows where that body is.
02:29:36.000And I believe Alan knows that Jeff has probably had more than one killed and disposed of.
02:29:42.000And how come the feds haven't done anything about this?
02:29:45.000Dude, why did the feds cover up his rape and sex trafficking to put me in prison?
02:29:50.000Do you know, most people don't realize that he is a federal convict of $12 million wire fraud from a non-profit and he never spent one day in jail.
02:30:20.000But again, I mean, we see a lot of parallels in the case of President Trump as well.
02:30:25.000I mean, where you have these egregious situations where you're wondering why certain people are not in jail and other people are being targeted, right?
02:30:32.000I mean, look at the case of the January Sixers, for example.
02:30:35.000These people that are on video encouraging people to go inside the Capitol.
02:30:40.000Police officers letting people inside.
02:30:43.000Now we're finding out they're undercover FBI agents and why aren't these people in jail?
02:30:47.000But then innocent people who were praying, right?
02:30:50.000I mean, there's a lot of inconsistencies and a lot of people... You know, I truly believe that the FBI stands for the Federal Bureau of Insurrectionists, right?
02:31:01.000I call them the Federal Bureau of Insurrectionists because that's what they are.
02:31:06.000I listened to a mom from a January 6-year-old that I believe was 19 years old do a story on NPR radio about how her son never crossed the red ropes and he was in there for like 15 minutes or something like that.
02:31:23.000Anyway, they arrested him and they made him a deal that he would not spend more than 12 months in jail if he pled guilty.
02:31:32.000And then as soon as he pled guilty, they gave him 9 years and he hung himself.
02:32:28.000And these are the questions that everybody, everybody who's watching this election play out, every single American wants answers to right now.
02:33:34.000Okay, we raised the debt ceiling $2 trillion this month to turn around next month and hand that foreign country $100 billion to keep killing people.
02:33:44.000They have been fighting for 200,000 years, okay?
02:35:07.000Let me tell you, they are devoted to you.
02:35:11.000And they're being treated like river rats.
02:35:15.000And I don't know if you have any powers to be right now.
02:35:19.000You have, you have the voice of the Republican Party that sits in Congress that could change this, at least our living conditions before the end of this election.
02:37:32.000Yeah, and that's the kind of stuff that people need to hear more about, too.
02:37:35.000And look, I mean, we don't judge you for being a gay man in America, and I'm glad that you are speaking out against the drag queen story hours and the transsexual agenda.
02:37:47.000But regardless of your views on that, I think that we can all agree that the way you've been treated is unfair, the way the January Sixers are being treated is unfair, the way that Donald Trump is being treated is unfair, and neither of you.
02:38:01.000You know, thousands of other Americans have not been given a free, a fair trial here in America, and we need to fix that.
02:38:06.000We do need... That's absolutely correct, Laura.
02:38:46.000I have a real website, and if you take that quiz that's on that one website that's out there of your political views and see who best fits your needs, I pop up on 70% on most of the people that take that quiz.
02:39:02.000I'm not a fictional character on television.
02:39:06.000And those bloody pictures that you see on my Instagram and my Facebook are real life photos of what has happened to me in prison by federal employees that are here to protect me, not to abuse me.
02:39:20.000Laura, I cannot thank you enough for the hour of letting me have a voice, and if you want to do this again before the 23rd, we need to do it before the 23rd, because when I go back to federal prison, I will not have a phone access.
02:39:33.000Yeah, I think that we probably can do it again before the 23rd, and I'm planning on going out to, well, I'm planning on going to Pensacola for the rally on the 23rd as well, and so hopefully...
02:39:45.000That would be a good thing for Jason or somebody to show up and talk to the people for President Trump because there are going to be a lot of people.
02:39:54.000Yeah, I'm planning on going and I'm a big Trump supporter and so I will be there and I would love to have you on again as well.
02:40:01.000You have my number, you have my cell, you can contact me whenever and I will be promoting not only the flyer, let's get these up on the screen, the graphics for the rally that's going to be happening on the 23rd, Joe, but also too for people that want to write to you.
02:40:16.000I'm sure it lifts your spirits for people to write to you as well.
02:40:19.000So we have the address there for people to write you letters to the jail in Texas.
02:40:24.000You know, in Texas, you can get the address off the website to the prison there in Fort Worth.
02:40:30.000Don't bother writing me here because I'm not going to be here long enough to get the mail.
02:40:36.000But, you know, if you want to help out with some food, it's shop.icaregifts.com.
02:41:05.000We have one minute left and I showed the commissary fund online and so in these last 30 seconds or so that we have, I just want to say thank you so much for coming on and I really enjoyed speaking with you these last few days and getting to know you better.
02:42:40.000Laura, what is his name and which prison?
02:42:43.000It's Joseph Allen Maldonado, and right now he's currently in the Santa Rosa Jail.
02:42:49.000Here, let's get that up on the screen again so we can show people.
02:42:52.000And I'm gonna post all this on my Twitter and on my true social as well.
02:42:57.000But this is where you can send him letters.
02:42:59.000He wants you to send him letters in Fort Worth because after the date of the trial on the 23rd,
02:43:04.000He's going to be going back to Texas, but in the meantime, if you want to send him food, you can go to iCareGifts.com and I'm going to go load up his commissary fund as well tonight and give him some money so we can get him some burgers and pizza.
02:43:17.000Joseph Allen Maldonado, the Santa Rosa County Jail and inmate number 18012319.
02:43:22.000I'm sure that he would really appreciate it.
02:43:28.000And he would probably really enjoy it.
02:43:29.000So, if you guys can buy him a burger or buy him some pizza.
02:43:33.000He said he shares it with other people as well.
02:43:59.000I bought this just for the interview tonight, so it's got tigers, and I also bought a tiger mug, so I really just wanted to dress for the part, right?
02:44:51.000Uh, let's see, iCareGifts, Joseph Maldonado, yep, Santa Rosa, we have JoeXoticTV here in the chat.
02:44:58.000And again, you guys, we are live, but even if, you know, when this ends, it's going to be available for replay, and so you're going to want to, um, you're going to want to repost this link and share it so that other people can watch the interview as well, right?
02:46:44.000Yeah, look, I mean, a lot of people really enjoyed this interview, and I think that the Tiger King got us through COVID, and so we really need to get him out of jail.
02:46:54.000I think we need to get him out of jail, and if President Trump is watching this, and I do believe that he is because I know that his staff said that they were going to be sharing this with President Trump tonight, I hope that you will consider pardoning him because clearly there were some advisors that made Joe out to be a joke, and he's not a joke.
02:47:13.000And he has a lot of Trump supporters and Trump allies that are behind him, and I think that he has been wrongfully convicted.
02:47:21.000We explained the issue tonight with him shooting the five tigers, and you can see through this form that I showed you that he had authorization from the veterinarian.
02:47:30.000And here's an exhibit that really should have been shown during his trial, which wasn't shown.
02:47:38.000You hear things on TV, you see things on the internet, you see memes, and even President Trump, right, if you watch that clip, was made to think that Joe was some kind of a crazy guy.
02:47:49.000I think he's passionate, and I think that he is eccentric, but I think he has a good heart, and I would really love to see him get released from jail, and I would love to see a high-powered attorney help him out so that he can get back and, you know, be with his boyfriend,
02:48:05.000And live his life and spend time with his stepson and who knows maybe get the money again to have another zoo and be able to live out the rest of his life while he has cancer.
02:48:13.000Bringing joy to other people with animals because animals are are like children to us, right?
02:48:19.000There's so much joy and some of the biggest joy that I have in my own life is are my animals and I love my animals and animals bring so much joy to so many people and I think that that's all Joe is really trying to do and unfortunately
02:48:32.000I do think that he's been a victim of entrapment like so many people in our country.
02:49:58.000So, again, you guys, be sure that you share this link, right?
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02:50:38.000Be sure that you share this interview, and I'm going to get to work with my team to get this interview cut up so that we can further advocate for Joe.
02:50:49.000And hopefully get his message to President Trump and get more people speaking out about criminal justice reform because it is a big issue.
02:50:57.000Joe Biden has lied about being a criminal justice advocate, and this is an issue that President Trump has championed.
02:51:03.000I mean, look, we have all of President Trump's accomplishments here, okay?
02:51:12.000President Donald Trump has championed reforms that are providing hope to forgotten Americans.
02:51:15.000Let's get this up on the screen, full screen.
02:51:21.000Where President Trump has talked about the First Step Act.
02:51:24.000President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act into law in 2018.
02:51:28.000Enacting historic reforms to make our justice system fairer for all.
02:51:32.000The First Step Act addressed outdated failed policies that were long overdue for reform.
02:51:36.000The legislation eliminated the three strikes life sentencing provision for some offenses, expanded judges discretion in sentencing of nonviolent crimes and more.
02:51:45.000The First Step Act is helping inmates successfully return to society by expanding access to rehabilitative programs.
02:51:52.000We needed President Trump to get back into office so that, you know, he could continue to expand on criminal justice reform.
02:51:59.000We all know somebody who has had a run-in with the law, whether it's ourselves, a family member, a cousin, a friend, right?
02:52:06.000Whether you got a speeding ticket, whether you are driving drunk, whether you, you know, had a drug issue, whether you, you know, who knows, right?
02:52:14.000Maybe you're a former criminal and you have repented and you have, you know, fixed your life and turned your life around.
02:52:20.000Everybody at some point in life is going to have a run-in with the law.
02:52:33.000And so you want to make sure that if you ever do find yourself being raided by the feds, or you ever find yourself in a situation with a law enforcement official, that you're not going to get railroaded, right?
02:52:45.000You want to know that you're going to get a fair trial, that you're going to have a fair interaction with the police.
02:52:50.000And President Trump is the candidate on the ballot who is going to help ensure that for all Americans, and I think that he's got a lot of street cred.
02:53:03.000Being indicted, people are starting to resonate with him, and they're starting to see if they can get away with doing this to the most powerful man in the world, a billionaire, the President of the United States of America.
02:53:14.000The legitimate President of the United States of America, they can do it to you.
02:53:29.000Start saving money for lawyers because they will come after you.
02:53:33.000And so I hope that if there's one thing that you learn from this tonight, it's that
02:53:37.000Even a guy running for president against Joe Biden in a jail cell in Florida right now is supporting Donald Trump because he knows that Donald Trump is our last hope.
02:53:46.000Joe endorsed President Trump on my show tonight and said that he hopes that he gets back in because he recognizes that
02:53:52.000That Donald Trump is the last hope, okay?
02:53:54.000That Donald Trump is the last hope for the J6ers, the last hope for Joe Exotic, the last hope for all these thousands of other Americans who are sitting in jail wrongfully convicted or people that are currently being targeted.
02:54:08.000I hope that all of you will register to vote and that you will get out and vote for President Donald Trump because our country depends on it.
02:54:14.000The future of America depends on it and your ability to have a free and fair trial in America, God forbid you ever find yourself in an entanglement with the law, depends on that.