In this episode of Conspiracy Theories, host Alex Blumberg sits down with Alex Jones to discuss his journey from journalist to conspiracy theorist and how he exposed Hillary Clinton's involvement in the Benghazi attack, the Las Vegas shooting, and much more.
00:03:27.000So hours after the attack, they were putting out on their official airwaves that they were responsible for the attack.
00:03:33.000And then the FBI tried to say that it wasn't...
00:03:35.000Yeah, while there were still bodies on the ground and they were saying, no, no, no, it wasn't ISIS, it wasn't ISIS. How do you know if you haven't done an investigation yet?
00:03:43.000And it's because, you know, as my investigation showed, Steven Paddock, who they said was the shooter, right, he was like a double agent with the FBI, and ISIS said that he was one of their own.
00:03:53.000And so I think it was a double agent situation gone wrong, where it was a gun-running operation, kind of like a Fast and Furious-style operation, right, where the FBI was trying to intercept guns with the cartels.
00:04:04.000But in this case, instead of the cartels, it was ISIS terrorists who came in through the Mexican border.
00:04:09.000What happened with those emails that they leaked on WikiLeaks last week that said that the Saudi prince was in the penthouse and that was supposed to be like a distraction because they were supposed to assassinate him and the shooting was just a cover so that they could assassinate the prince.
00:05:07.000And there was someone that worked in valet there that gave me the valet receipts, right, for Steven Paddock, and that showed that his girlfriend at the time, a woman by the name of Mary Lou Danley, was the last person to park their car in valet or to turn it in.
00:05:20.000And the feds had said that she was out of the country at the time of the shooting, even though her ID was found in the room.
00:05:26.000Life or companion was not in the United States at the time.
00:05:30.000Has she returned to the United States?
00:05:33.000Do we know anything about any contact that authorities may have had with her?
00:05:44.000So by the time you had got to Vegas, what was the story that the FBI was trying to convince the world that happened?
00:05:50.000So they were trying to convince people that Steven Paddock was just like a lone wolf, a 63-year-old man that carried out that shooting by himself.
00:05:59.000They said that they didn't know how he got those guns up there, right?
00:06:03.000And they were just saying that it was not ISIS, even though ISIS kept on taking responsibility multiple times.
00:06:11.000They wouldn't release any of the security footage or show us any of the security footage.
00:06:16.000And then, when I realized it was a cover-up, I had receipts from the check-in that showed that Steven Paddock had checked in on the 25th of September.
00:06:24.000Which was five days before the shooting?
00:08:00.000And I just said, yeah, I have receipts from, you know, Mandalay Bay that show that Paddock checked in on the 25th.
00:08:06.000Why are you lying about the timeline and when are you going to correct it?
00:08:08.000And you would have thought that I shot someone in that room because the FBI officer looked at me and then looked at the other people that tried to escort me out.
00:08:16.000And then there was this whole media campaign to make it seem like I was some kind of crazy, kooky conspiracy theorist, right?
00:08:22.000And then days later, he had to come out and change the timeline and say that he checked in on the 25th, not the 28th.
00:08:27.000So what happened in that two-day window?
00:08:30.000From like, when the press comes, did they escort you out of there?
00:08:33.000Yeah, I was banned from attending all future LVMPD press conferences.
00:08:45.000They can't, but that's what was so crazy about this, right?
00:08:48.000They banned me and I was the one that was breaking all the stories about it.
00:08:51.000So these are the stories that I think more people need to hear about.
00:08:55.000When journalists are breaking stories, if we don't have laws that prevent police departments from doing things like that, We need to start putting in laws that prevent them from doing things like that.
00:09:05.000So as this all comes crashing down, if we have the opportunity to rebuild it back, we need to really focus on stories like this because this is how the corruptions have been able to get away with the corruption for so long.
00:09:18.000Obviously, I think anybody that's watching this is going to believe your story and know that there's more to this story of the Vegas shootings.
00:09:23.000Well, and they wouldn't even release the footage, right?
00:09:26.000They wouldn't even release the security footage.
00:09:28.000The media, the mainstream media, had to sue in order to get this footage.
00:09:32.000And even then, they still don't have it all.
00:09:34.000They tried sealing all of the documents and their reports, and they wouldn't release their official report to the public.
00:09:44.000Worst mass shooting in US history, so it was about 58 people, but hundreds more were injured.
00:09:49.000There were people that had, you know, post-traumatic stress disorder, they fell, they got trampled, some of them were shot, and then, you know, now they have lifelong injuries, but hundreds of people were injured, and you had about 58 people that lost their lives.
00:10:03.000So, tell us the story of what they said happened.
00:10:07.000There was supposed to be one shooter from a window, so he shot out a window.
00:10:23.000This is the Las Vegas Shooter's Suite.
00:10:25.000It's called the Vista Suite, and it's a spacious 1,700 square feet with a wraparound view overlooking the Vegas Strip.
00:10:34.000Somehow, Steven Paddock sneaked in 23 guns in 10 pieces of luggage without housekeeping ever raising a red flag.
00:10:43.000We're also learning more about how the massacre was staged.
00:10:47.000This illustration shows how Paddock opened fire into the crowd at the 15-acre concert site below, using a two-legged bipod and a gun platform.
00:10:57.000The killer used a device like this that turns his semi-automatic weapon into a rapid-fire killing machine, as seen in this YouTube video.
00:11:07.000Did any of the autopsy reports corroborate the angle of this gun?
00:11:13.000Because I've heard stories that people didn't see any gun flashes coming from this magic window.
00:11:18.000So that's another thing that happened.
00:11:19.000I broke the story too about how they weren't doing full autopsies on all of the victims.
00:11:24.000Because they just assumed that they were all homicide victims and why wouldn't they do full autopsies?
00:11:29.000Because then they would see multiple bullet casings which would indicate multiple shooters.
00:11:33.000And everybody knew that there were multiple shooters, but the media and the LVMPD and FPI said there was only one shooter.
00:11:39.000So there's possibly still another Vegas shooter that has not been arrested.
00:12:37.000Paddock checks into a suite on the 32nd floor, and he's given the VIP treatment, allowed to bring his luggage up through a service elevator.
00:12:45.000Over the course of his stay, he makes several trips to his house in Mesquite, Nevada, and brings in case after case after case of luggage.
00:12:54.00021 suitcases in all, full of guns and ammunition.
00:12:59.000The investigation shows on October 1st, he orders room service and rigged surveillance cameras, Before he brings in a final batch of suitcases and locks himself in his room.
00:13:11.000That night at 9.40 p.m., Mandalay Bay Security Officer Jesus Campos is on a routine security check assigned to a room alarm on the 32nd floor.
00:13:23.000In my head, I was home free after this.
00:13:27.000He has no idea he's about to become an accidental hero on what would become one of the most horrific nights in American history.
00:13:34.000As shown in this rendering provided exclusively to ABC News by MGM, once on the 30th floor, he takes the stairs up to the 32nd, but he finds the exit door jammed.
00:13:45.000So he walks up to the elevator and takes it back down.
00:17:02.000The investigation shows on October 1st, he orders room service and rigged surveillance cameras before he brings in a final batch of suitcases and locks himself in his room.
00:17:15.000So who was on the other end of that receiver of the baby monitor camera that was set up and transmitting from inside Steven Paddock's hotel suite on the 32nd floor?
00:17:30.000So I've mentioned all of this in my book and these are questions that were never answered.
00:17:33.000They lied and they said that he was in his room by himself but the police transcripts that were released over a year and a half after the shooting show that there were three women in the room with him.
00:17:43.000You can hear it on the police scanner in the transcription and I released these reports.
00:17:51.000Right now, there is still so much we don't know about the Vegas Strip shooter, 64-year-old Steven Paddock, or his motives.
00:17:59.000We also don't know if he acted alone or if his companion, girlfriend, Mary Lou Danley, was a co-conspirator.
00:18:07.000We do know she has been located and taken in for questioning.
00:18:11.000Among the many interviews of witnesses, however, an unknown woman in the crowd made her way to the front row and told concertgoers there, you're all going to die tonight.
00:18:21.000This was about 45 minutes before the shooting began, according to the witness.
00:18:25.000The woman was then escorted out by security and apparently nobody thought twice about her warning.
00:18:32.000Was this woman Mary Lou Danley or somebody completely unconnected?
00:18:36.000Does anybody have access to the baby monitors and the footage that was on those baby monitors?
00:18:41.000The FBI went into the room and took everything.
00:18:43.000Where was his female companion wife found?
00:18:49.000That's the shooter's wife or companion was not in the United States at the time.
00:18:56.000Has she returned to the United States?
00:18:58.000Do we know anything about any contact that authorities may have had with her?
00:19:03.000Well, we understand that authorities have spoken to her and that she was out of the country, and they don't believe that she was involved in this, and they have been in contact with her at this time, but it's our understanding that she was not in the country.
00:19:34.000That several members of Congress had received a private briefing that showed that ISIS terrorists came in through the open border via Mexico into Las Vegas and carried out that shooting.
00:19:46.000And you never had that congressman on Fox News again.
00:19:49.000Almost four months since the Las Vegas shooting, the worst in modern American history.
00:19:53.000Still many mysteries and some new developments in that case.
00:19:56.000Just two days ago, a lawyer for the Las Vegas police indicated new charges could be forthcoming.
00:20:21.000It was the hearing for the press where they asked the court to release the search warrants, the affidavits, and all of the returns, which means all of the evidence, right?
00:20:33.000And so what we heard was quite shocking and quite surprising.
00:20:37.000Now, you have to remember that Sheriff Lombardo with the Las Vegas Metro Police has told us at his briefings that Steven Paddock was the lone shooter.
00:21:03.000The entire courtroom took a gasp and looked up and went silent for a second.
00:21:09.000Even the judge reacted and the judge said something like, okay, without telling me who or what, are you saying to me that there will be other charges forthcoming?
00:21:18.000And the lawyer for the police said, yes, there are other charges being investigated.
00:21:24.000The judge pressed him on that and he said within 60 days.
00:21:28.000So what the judge did was she asked him for further supplemental briefing to explain to her what What that contains, who it is, what it's about.
00:21:38.000You see, we're asking and the press is asking for the documents, the evidence to be released since there is no ongoing criminal investigation.
00:21:49.000Well, that would be nice to answer basic questions such as how is an interior door locked inside the hotel suite.
00:21:55.000Congressman, you're the only member of Congress I'm aware of who's taken a public position asking questions about this.
00:22:08.000They said he's a lone gunman, lone shooter, yet we can't get the autopsy results.
00:22:12.000But even more troubling than that, recently I've been made aware of what I believe to be credible evidence or credible information regarding potential terrorist infiltration through the southern border regarding this incident.
00:22:29.000I'm just at a loss for words right now.
00:22:31.000I don't understand how this happened and it happened under Trump and he wasn't trying to dive deeper down that rabbit hole.
00:22:40.000Well, you know, it is really interesting because then President Trump, right, he banned bump stocks or at least tried to ban bump stocks until it was ultimately shot down.
00:22:48.000But people said, oh, wow, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for bump stocks.
00:22:52.000And then President Trump said that he was going to ban bump stocks.
00:22:54.000But it has nothing to do with bump stocks.
00:22:55.000It had everything to do with ISIS. Yeah, because they're trying to say one man was able to shoot one-handed and shoot multiple weapons.
00:23:02.000And there's not been, like in this entire time since this happened, there's not been one independent journalist that has tried to hear your stories.
00:23:47.000Well, that could be, let's face it, ISIS twice before the attack.
00:23:52.000ISIS warned the United States that they would attack Las Vegas, I think, in June and August, and then after the attack, claim responsibility four times.
00:24:02.000Meanwhile, the local law enforcement investigative services are telling us there is no terrorist connection.
00:24:30.000Like he was, he was going into like some crazy stuff about this.
00:24:34.000Like there was 10, 10 eyewitnesses who saw, who were standing next to somebody that, like when they got hit with a bullet, like it wouldn't have been coming down.
00:24:43.000Yeah, they were saying that there were people in the crowd and there was a lady too that was arrested right before the shooting that said, you're all going to die.
00:24:48.000You're going to die in the terrorist attack tonight.
00:24:50.000An unknown woman in the crowd made her way to the front row and told concertgoers there, you're all going to die tonight.
00:24:58.000This was about 45 minutes before the shooting began.
00:25:01.000So tell us a little about these stories, because he was saying that there was 10 people that were eyewitnesses that magically died within like a month after this happening.
00:25:09.000Yeah, a lot of people, it was really weird, a lot of the people who came out afterwards and said that, oh, I saw a multiple shooter, or oh, this lady was saying that people were gonna die, like people were just dying in freak accidents.
00:25:52.000Everybody's still in shock, and understandably so.
00:26:18.000When you walk down the strip and you see the vigil and you see the posters of the people who died and all of these candles lit, it's forever changed.
00:26:27.000I think there's a lot of people that knew people at the concert.
00:26:35.000Sheriff Lombardo comes out and says, oh no, now we looked at everything again, and the timeline was wrong, and now we think that Campos was shot just about the time the gunmen opened fire.
00:26:47.000So now the LVMPD has changed the timeline a third time.
00:26:52.000And, well, here comes the LVMPD, actually.
00:26:59.000The security guard, Jesus Campos, he was supposed to talk to five members of the national press, and he just mysteriously went disappearing, vanished.
00:27:09.000Things are just getting stranger and stranger in this case.
00:27:12.000I've had sources literally tell me, I'm scared for my life, I can't continue talking.
00:27:19.000There was a report that just came out the other day that said that concertgoers and witnesses of the shooting, when they collected their phones that were confiscated by the LVMPD, they received their phones and it was completely scrubbed.
00:27:31.000Like, they didn't have any pictures, no video.
00:27:34.000Law enforcement made an effort to make sure that the pictures and the video of the event were taken off people's cell phones.
00:28:07.000Yes, and that's something that has come up a few times.
00:28:10.000And, you know, when things like this happen, you get so many varying accounts, especially early on when people are trying to piece together exactly what happened.
00:28:18.000And the investigators were asked about this late last night at their last press conference, and they said that there was no truth to any of those rumors.
00:28:26.000Everything, you know, from what they've seen, there was just the one shooter perched on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel.
00:28:41.000I'm not entirely sure about the timing of an hour.
00:28:45.000What we do know is that as soon as the gunshots went off, there was a lot of confusion as to where it was actually coming from.
00:28:52.000I mean, people knew they were getting hit, people knew they were under attack, but they didn't know from where.
00:28:57.000We have another question here from Leslie King.
00:29:00.000Have you seen the video of fire coming from the 12th floor?
00:29:05.000Unfortunately I don't have much to say about that Leslie because I haven't seen the video personally.
00:29:10.000We do expect investigators to give an update later today and we will hear more about people kind of piecing together just what was going on in that hotel room but right now that's not a detail I can speak to.
00:29:23.000Wow so now They were saying that this guy had snuck guns in a gun case up a back stairwell.
00:29:51.000He was on Fox News shortly after the attack happened and said, well, in my hotels, nobody would ever be able to carry up guns through the service elevator.
00:30:46.000Lumer posted the video to her YouTube channel with a clip of a Steve Wynn interview taken after the shooting.
00:30:54.000No public person has ever walked in the service elevator unless they were accompanied by security.
00:31:00.000The driver point that the lessons of 1 October have not taken with MGM. Mandalay Bay and MGM Resorts, they haven't taken any efforts to really improve their security measures despite the fact that the worst mass shooting in U.S. history took place on one of their properties.
00:31:14.000There is no indicator on these doors that tell you that the doors are for service elevators, for housekeeping only, nothing as you can see here.
00:31:31.000In a statement to Fox 5, they wrote, We are carefully reviewing the video and our constant efforts to evaluate and refine our security procedures.
00:31:39.000They might want to look at this video, too.
00:31:41.000This is Mike Turber making the same trip through the hallways and up the service elevator, something he said he's done 27 times since the 1 October shooting.
00:31:50.000Loomer has ruffled some feathers at Metro and MGM with their reporting on 1 October, but she says this isn't about her, but exposing a serious ongoing security flaw from a company that should know better.
00:32:02.000When you have an attack of this caliber taking place in one of the most popular tourist destinations in the world, you would expect the casinos, which have billions of dollars to spend, to really implement stricter security, especially given the fact that a lot of people are probably inspired by this attack to carry out their own attacks or acts of terror.
00:32:21.000And then people realized, oh, they carried the guns up through the service elevator.
00:32:27.000That's an elevator in the back of the hotel where just staff mainly use it?
00:32:30.000Yeah, it's an elevator used in the back of the hotel that's large for maintenance to come down and the cleaning ladies and he was able to go through the service elevator.
00:32:38.000And he's given the VIP treatment, allowed to bring his luggage up through a service elevator.
00:32:43.000Over the course of his stay, he makes several trips to his house in Mesquite, Nevada, and brings in case after case after case of luggage.
00:32:52.00021 suitcases in all, full of guns and ammunition.
00:32:58.000So, where is this service elevator located in the hotel?
00:33:03.000Yeah, so it's on the lobby floor, and you have to walk around one of the hallways, and then you just go through a door.
00:33:10.000And when this happened, right, the MGM Resort said, we don't let people in the service elevator, but then obviously, like, it turned out that he didn't go up the service elevator.
00:33:18.000So then they said, we're really sorry.
00:33:21.000We're going to make sure that we have security so that this can never happen again.
00:33:24.000And four months after the fact, right, they didn't have security.
00:33:27.000And so my friend and I decided that we were going to test it.
00:33:29.000So we put on a hidden camera and we brought a black gun case with us around the same exact time that the shooting happened, right, around 10 o'clock at night.
00:34:07.000And then the victim's lawyers and the family members who had retained these lawyers issued a statement saying that they were going to be utilizing that video in their case against MGM. And then MGM had to come out and release a statement.
00:34:22.000And then after that, I found myself banned from MGM properties.
00:34:25.000Wow, so now you're banned from MGM properties for exposing the corruption.
00:34:30.000And they actually fired the news director, too.
00:34:32.000They fired the news director from the Fox 5 station out there because she allowed for this clip to be aired.
00:34:41.000And they were actually going to hire me.
00:34:43.000Like, the Fox station out there, they were going to hire me to come work because she was so impressed by all of the different scoops that I was getting and my reporting.
00:34:52.000And then there was a total coup in the newsroom and they decided to go after the news director and have her get fired because she wanted to offer me a job.
00:35:00.000Because all the news stations in Vegas are sponsored by the hotels and the casinos.
00:35:04.000I mean I believe that 100% but it just blows my mind the length that these people are willing to go and the power that they have to just in a snap of a finger just anybody for any reason you're gone.
00:35:15.000And I remember, too, that the only time I've really ever been scared, I was sitting in a taco place called Roberto's Tacos, and my phone rang, and it was the FBI. And they were trying to get me to come into their office in Nevada because they wanted to find out who my sources were because they were so pissed off by my reporting.
00:35:33.000And I told them, I said, no, I'm a journalist, and I have source protection, and I'm not going to do this.
00:35:39.000And I remember going back to my hotel that night, I was so scared.
00:35:42.000I couldn't even sleep because I thought that somebody was going to kill me.
00:35:45.000I thought that somebody was going to come to my room and it freaked me out.
00:35:48.000And did you have any friends in Vegas or were you there by yourself?