Louder with Crowder - #686 THE UNJUST WAR ON COPS! | Jocko Willink Guests! | Louder With Crowder

00:00:00.000 Oh, if you keep on saying...

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00:01:23.000 Thanks for watching!

00:01:28.000 you We two do love a problem We two do love a problem We two do

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00:02:12.000 Barry sell all the wines along the double up the double.

00:02:36.000 Up the double, along. Along. Along. Along. Along.

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00:04:25.000 Barry sell all the wines along the double up the double.

00:05:00.000 The United States is often called the Great Melting Pot, but it's a country that's struggled with race relations throughout its history, and still does today.

00:05:09.000 Does America have a race problem? 0.90

00:05:12.000 All the evidence says yes.

00:05:13.000 It's a history of oppression.

00:05:15.000 because of the raw, ugly racism and ethno-nationalism of our president.

00:05:20.000 I've been all over the world. 0.87

00:05:34.000 America is one of the most diverse, but yet, um, racist countries there is.

00:05:41.000 I mean, you just have it in gender over here. 1.00

00:05:43.000 But I don't talk to racists. 1.00

00:05:46.000 Oh, I don't talk to idiots. 1.00

00:05:47.000 Y'all have a great day. 1.00

00:05:48.000 Just proves what the majority of America thinks about y'all.

00:05:52.000 Systemic racism is real in America.

00:05:53.000 America is racist, right?

00:05:55.000 Not really. 1.00

00:05:57.000 America is racist.

00:06:01.000 I'm not.

00:06:01.000 I think it's people that are racist, not a system.

00:06:03.000 You can't generalize people.

00:06:05.000 What.

00:06:06.000 What.

00:06:07.000 Matters.

00:06:07.000 What.

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00:06:09.000 Matters.

00:06:10.000 What.

00:06:11.000 What.

00:06:12.000 Matters.

00:06:12.000 What I've said is true.

00:06:14.000 That's better.

00:06:15.000 This does it.

00:06:16.000 Black lives matter.

00:06:17.000 This does it.

00:06:18.000 They all do you right.

00:06:19.000 No, not all.

00:06:20.000 All of them do you right.

00:06:22.000 Do not say that!

00:06:24.000 It's June, which marks Lauda with Crowder's 5th annual Cultural Appropriation Month,

00:06:47.000 where we take you across the globe to learn about and appreciate all the cultures this world has to offer.

00:06:54.000 This week, their opera house is pointier than yours.

00:06:58.000 It's Australia!

00:07:03.000 Yes!

00:07:04.000 Clear to be with you, I have not seen that introduction where he punches the kangaroo in the face and I do not approve.

00:07:10.000 It's rough.

00:07:11.000 Nor does Bindi.

00:07:12.000 Hey, Bindi. 0.98

00:07:13.000 It's named after my daughter.

00:07:14.000 I wait in front of the crock all the time, Bindi.

00:07:17.000 Like Michael Jackson on a balcony.

00:07:19.000 So... I can't do that whole show.

00:07:22.000 It's a lot to hold up.

00:07:24.000 Please.

00:07:25.000 We ran out of cultures that weren't wide enough. 0.99

00:07:29.000 We figured Australia, that'll work.

00:07:32.000 Because to appropriate is to appreciate.

00:07:34.000 And we have Jocko Willink on the show today.

00:07:37.000 We do, we have the Jocko Willink on the show.

00:07:39.000 We have some fast facts here for Australia.

00:07:41.000 But first, we'll be talking about the Atlanta ruling, of course.

00:07:44.000 We'll be talking about all the black lives matter.

00:07:46.000 We'll be talking about not all lives matter, all the black lives matter. 1.00

00:07:50.000 All lives do not matter. 1.00

00:07:51.000 Get it correct.

00:07:52.000 Yeah, let's be really clear.

00:07:53.000 Because Rice is in his bed.

00:07:56.000 Right?

00:07:58.000 My producer says right!

00:08:01.000 Don't you, Bindi?

00:08:02.000 She's my producer, too!

00:08:04.000 It's really just a photograph from the CA close at the store with a little jiggly crook!

00:08:10.000 And my half-Asian lawyer Bill Richmond is here.

00:08:12.000 How are you, sir?

00:08:13.000 Hello, friends.

00:08:14.000 That is an actual knife.

00:08:15.000 Be careful with it.

00:08:15.000 Didn't have a prop.

00:08:17.000 No, nope, that's real.

00:08:19.000 By the way, remind me, according to Black Gary, as a producer, we need to either purchase airsoft replicas or blanks.

00:08:26.000 Because the guy who worked here before, the guy who had that, he's no longer with us.

00:08:29.000 Let's make sure that doesn't happen again.

00:08:32.000 Audio Wade is here.

00:08:33.000 Gerald A. is here.

00:08:34.000 What's the wine of the day?

00:08:35.000 The wine of the day is an Aussie wine, Penfolds Ben 389.

00:08:39.000 Really?

00:08:39.000 Do they make good wine?

00:08:40.000 They do.

00:08:40.000 Fantastic wine, yes.

00:08:42.000 Bad costumes, great wine.

00:08:44.000 It is true what they say.

00:08:45.000 What is that? 0.86

00:08:47.000 Australia, though a colony entirely founded by rapists and felons, can still make good alcohol. 0.90

00:08:53.000 Yes. 0.97

00:08:54.000 I've heard that before.

00:08:55.000 Which is what you want with rapists and felons in a colony. 0.96

00:08:57.000 Well, you need it. 0.98

00:08:57.000 Just liquor them up. 0.98

00:08:59.000 Well, yes.

00:09:00.000 Roll the dice!

00:09:02.000 Australia facts as we move on.

00:09:04.000 While famous for kangaroos and koalas, the most common mammal in Australia is the Hemsworth.

00:09:09.000 Contrary to popular belief, not all Aussies are racist, but all racists are Aussies.

00:09:15.000 You can do the math on that. 0.78

00:09:17.000 old female ghostbusters. You almost ruined my childhood! 1.00

00:09:22.000 Instead you just ruined Bindi's! 1.00

00:09:24.000 Contrary to popular belief, not all Aussies are racist, but all racists are Aussies. You 0.99

00:09:30.000 can do the math on that. Unlike America, Australian culture is going down the toilet clockwise. 0.92

00:09:37.000 That's physics for you.

00:09:39.000 Not a myth. 0.75

00:09:40.000 As a matter of fact, Australia was established as a penal colony for rapists, murderers, and venomous spiders.

00:09:45.000 But that's just... I don't think I'm telling you anything that you don't know.

00:09:50.000 It always goes back to the spiders.

00:09:51.000 I guess the question of the day... You've seen the video I uploaded this morning, but I do want to ask you guys, before we move on, I do want your opinion on what happened with Atlanta and Officer Rolf over there.

00:10:02.000 Going into election, we might actually be doing just Good Morning Mug Club, because a lot of you people have been tuning in watching Good Morning Mug Club, and we'll be doing the streams for all the debates, all the town halls, which are like two or three hours.

00:10:13.000 So I want to know if you guys think that's a good plan, where we go doing Good Morning Mug Club more often, Monday through Thursday, and instead of doing the Thursday show at night, we can actually prepare to do the live debate fact check streams.

00:10:23.000 Let us know, because we're surprised at the people who tune in to Good Morning Mug Club.

00:10:26.000 Does this mean more CNN or less CNN?

00:10:27.000 Well, it depends.

00:10:31.000 Please don't make me do more silence.

00:10:32.000 Steve Irwin, that was a man.

00:10:34.000 Steve Irwin.

00:10:34.000 I have never been more impressed with a human being.

00:10:36.000 I watched one time him jump into open water with a crocodile.

00:10:40.000 Saltwater crocodile.

00:10:41.000 Into open water.

00:10:42.000 It was crazy.

00:10:43.000 Just like a death roll and they're just spiraling like it's Fantasia.

00:10:47.000 It's a dam!

00:10:47.000 In the middle of the water!

00:10:49.000 That's way more impressive than a swamp!

00:10:51.000 He's not grounded on anything!

00:10:52.000 Synchronized swimming.

00:10:53.000 It's amazing.

00:10:54.000 I don't love animals enough to do that.

00:10:56.000 What do you think, Bindi?

00:10:58.000 Look!

00:10:59.000 Together!

00:11:00.000 So, I can drink my water.

00:11:02.000 He's always in the way.

00:11:05.000 We'll bring him back for Jocko.

00:11:07.000 We want Jocko to get the full experience.

00:11:09.000 You have to.

00:11:11.000 First, though, before we move on with the show, let's check in with the current state of Western civilization.

00:11:17.000 I love it!

00:11:49.000 Yeah.

00:11:50.000 Now, the good news is advertising executives took note, and now racism is over, so it's a problem of the past.

00:11:58.000 Oh, yeah.

00:12:00.000 Accurate.

00:12:00.000 I'm glad we solved it.

00:12:02.000 I'm so glad we solved it.

00:12:05.000 Uncle Ben's is going to be Tekashi69.

00:12:07.000 We've got to update with the times.

00:12:11.000 The rice is now multicolored.

00:12:12.000 Just him dry-humping a minor and featured on YouTube homepage.

00:12:16.000 Sorry, this is not for kids, because we have to acknowledge it's actually going on in our country right now, and that's it.

00:12:22.000 I can't imagine at one point—there are cultural differences, of course, that happen.

00:12:25.000 But these riots, I can't imagine 15 years ago anyone doing that outside of a strip club.

00:12:30.000 Right, yeah.

00:12:30.000 You'd be arrested.

00:12:32.000 Anybody.

00:12:33.000 It's a woman servicing herself in front of police officers. 1.00

00:12:35.000 It's unreal to me.

00:12:36.000 And the lady on the bottle, the model, Aunt Jemima, she was born a slave, she became a free woman.

00:12:42.000 And by the way, if Aunt Jemima was a real person, she probably wouldn't care anyways.

00:12:45.000 The model could have been a lady who made kick-ass pancakes. 1.00

00:12:47.000 They wouldn't care.

00:12:49.000 If you could bring her back from the dead, you'd think she'd be like, what?

00:12:52.000 You took my face off? 1.00

00:12:53.000 Ya boo, sh**! 1.00

00:12:55.000 laughter Bring her back from the dead! 0.99

00:13:00.000 People wanted to take away the... Wait, wait, wait!

00:13:00.000 Be like, yeah, you know what?

00:13:03.000 Hold on a second! 0.93

00:13:03.000 Y'all mean that I've been selling, I've been selling, I've been selling that much syrup? 0.93

00:13:08.000 People bought it, so the country must have changed, right?

00:13:10.000 And y'all, it's like a majority black?

00:13:12.000 No, it's only like 12%. 1.00

00:13:13.000 You bullsh**! 0.99

00:13:15.000 No! 1.00

00:13:16.000 And we also had a black president. 0.73

00:13:18.000 Oh, okay, so at that point, like, maybe y'all, like, there was a switch, like the South and the North, and then they moved... Like, no, it was actually white people who elected a black president. 0.88

00:13:28.000 And y'all gonna remove my face? 0.77

00:13:30.000 That's my brand? 1.00

00:13:31.000 That is called brand protection, bitch! 1.00

00:13:35.000 You know what the real problem is? 1.00

00:13:36.000 Y'all wanna talk about, nah, I'm a free woman, I'm a free, strong, black woman out here now, and I am making millions of dollars, and white motherfuckers have a problem with that shit? 1.00

00:13:43.000 You know what other problem I have? 1.00

00:13:44.000 I have a problem with that.

00:13:45.000 That's not even real maple syrup. 1.00

00:13:47.000 You put some corn syrup in that motherfucker and fuck it. 1.00

00:13:49.000 Food coloring! 1.00

00:13:50.000 Just flavors. 0.96

00:13:51.000 I had to get the real s**t! 0.97

00:13:52.000 I had to get Harriet Tubman's train, go to Canada, bring that s**t back! 1.00

00:13:56.000 You know what's that gonna do? 1.00

00:13:58.000 Take my face off the motherf**ker! 1.00

00:14:03.000 That's how you honor her. 1.00

00:14:05.000 Erase the wealthy free black woman. 1.00

00:14:08.000 And feature the twerk. 0.98

00:14:12.000 In other social justice news, uh, the card game.

00:14:16.000 Sorry about all the censor buttons for the first half of the show.

00:14:19.000 That's a rough transition there.

00:14:20.000 Fingers getting tired.

00:14:21.000 And watch, people will try and get me in trouble that that's racist for doing a voice. 0.94

00:14:25.000 Now it's black voice. 0.97

00:14:26.000 You can't do black voice. 0.98

00:14:27.000 Well, post-mortem black voice you can, yes, if they're not alive anymore. 0.92

00:14:32.000 I don't know if that works.

00:14:33.000 Subsection of the sword, Adam?

00:14:37.000 I don't think that that's a cultural thing with Australia.

00:14:39.000 You'd have to do it accurately, which I think... I don't know, do they scalp?

00:14:43.000 Hey, traditions have to start somewhere.

00:14:47.000 Gerald?

00:14:48.000 You're up, Gerald!

00:14:50.000 By the way, also we'll be talking about chokeholds with Jocko Willink, and I will be choking Audio Wade.

00:14:54.000 We're going to show you what a chokehold actually is.

00:14:57.000 Spoiler alert!

00:14:58.000 I'm a big fan!

00:15:02.000 Wait, wait, hold on, hold on a minute.

00:15:02.000 Me too.

00:15:05.000 You're saying the police are, y'all don't want to have guns, y'all don't want cops, y'all don't want to have cases, and they can't choke a motherf***er? 0.96

00:15:11.000 How they gonna do that job? 0.96

00:15:12.000 You know, you know, how?

00:15:13.000 What, you gonna use the corn syrup, put it down there? 0.95

00:15:15.000 What the f***? 1.00

00:15:17.000 White people are crazy. 1.00

00:15:19.000 I like Aunt Jemima. 1.00

00:15:20.000 She's great. 1.00

00:15:22.000 F*** you. 1.00

00:15:22.000 That's right. 1.00

00:15:24.000 Oh, she's sassy. 1.00

00:15:25.000 She would say that.

00:15:26.000 Here are your pancakes.

00:15:27.000 Load it, load it. 0.94

00:15:29.000 Jesus save me, I'm serving me my f***ing pancake. 0.97

00:15:31.000 Gonna take my face off this pancake. 0.99

00:15:32.000 I don't know why I'm making me my f***ing pancake. 0.98

00:15:36.000 God. 0.91

00:15:37.000 Imagine that.

00:15:37.000 Imagine Aunt Jemima brings her pancakes and wonderful syrup and you go, send it back.

00:15:44.000 I know I didn't hear you old white ass say send that s*** back. 1.00

00:15:50.000 It used to be called appreciating southern food. 1.00

00:15:55.000 Now it's racist if you don't like tacos and it's racist if you do like tacos.

00:15:59.000 I'm taco neutral.

00:16:01.000 Canceled.

00:16:01.000 Taco Bell.

00:16:02.000 Don't talk about it.

00:16:04.000 In other social justice news, the card game Magic the Gathering, we didn't even get to a single story yet.

00:16:11.000 There's just Aunt Jemima.

00:16:13.000 We'll get there.

00:16:15.000 Magic the Gathering has now removed racist cards from the game.

00:16:19.000 One of the cards, this was a story we had from Forbes, one such racist card was called the Invoke Prejudice card.

00:16:25.000 Also removed the Pradesh Gypsies card and the Lose 10 Points for Using Your Right Turn Blinker When Merging Left card. 0.95

00:16:31.000 So that was one that seems pretty cut and dry.

00:16:34.000 Can't believe it lasted that long.

00:16:38.000 I don't know, but in other news, liberals somehow found a way to make Magic the Gathering less fun.

00:16:43.000 Ah, you didn't think it could happen, but yes.

00:16:45.000 They did it.

00:16:46.000 Found a way.

00:16:48.000 Art just reflects reality.

00:16:51.000 That's profound.

00:16:52.000 You can say it, I can't.

00:16:53.000 Yep, that's right. 0.99

00:16:53.000 2020, y'all motherfuckin' Asians, call us! 0.99

00:16:58.000 I wouldn't even give a horse and a bucket number. 0.99

00:17:03.000 So by the way, Adir also speaking, because everything has been Black Lives Matter and

00:17:06.000 obviously Atlanta, and unfortunately right now because the racial division in the country

00:17:10.000 really I think brings us together.

00:17:11.000 It does, it seems.

00:17:13.000 Adir ran into a Black Lives Matter protest in New Jersey and seriously injured a woman,

00:17:18.000 and this was a story everywhere.

00:17:19.000 Wow.

00:17:20.000 Now, obviously that's a tragic story.

00:17:21.000 I believe that she's expected to make a full recovery.

00:17:24.000 Some people have suspected this might be a retaliation for a recent viral Worldstar video. 0.99

00:17:32.000 Oh, damn! 0.99

00:17:33.000 Oh, damn! 1.00

00:17:36.000 Oh, s***! 1.00

00:17:39.000 Oh! 0.99

00:17:40.000 Boom! 0.99

00:17:41.000 You got f***ed up! 0.99

00:17:43.000 You got f***ed up! 1.00

00:17:44.000 Worldstar! 1.00

00:17:46.000 Oh, s***! 0.96

00:17:49.000 I like that it's one guy in the woods. 0.96

00:17:51.000 How many people can you fit in the woods?

00:17:55.000 Otherwise you'll scare them off!

00:17:56.000 That's true.

00:17:57.000 Hey, he has a pretty steady hand.

00:17:58.000 I appreciate the cinematography.

00:18:00.000 Really, he's a documentarian.

00:18:02.000 Wait, was that Michael Barnes?

00:18:04.000 No, it's the same guy who did Grizzly Man.

00:18:09.000 Grizzly Man.

00:18:12.000 It's funny, when we wrote that bit, we had to watch the original Bambi scene.

00:18:16.000 We were in the writer's room, and you could hear a pin drop, because we all just got really sad.

00:18:21.000 We're like, oh my god, this is a kid's film?

00:18:25.000 You never see it, though.

00:18:26.000 That's a rough movie.

00:18:27.000 Yeah, it is a rough film.

00:18:29.000 Finally, by the way, before we move on to some of the more serious news in Jocko Willink, wages for Chinese trolls have dropped by 60%.

00:18:37.000 The standard pay was $0.50 before, and now it's been cut to as little as $0.20, so this news obviously is being monitored closely and has caused serious concern for Taiwanese orcs, so they're not happy about it.

00:18:50.000 That explains my recent paycheck. 0.95

00:18:55.000 Darn. 0.99

00:18:55.000 This is an episode for the books. 0.99

00:19:00.000 I look forward to the conversation with the powers that be at Alphabet.

00:19:00.000 As long as it stays on.

00:19:04.000 It's okay.

00:19:05.000 We haven't quite crossed the line of Tekashi69.

00:19:08.000 No, we haven't choked out a fan in Houston and beat our girlfriend without mercy, but then again we haven't been featured on Trending, so.

00:19:08.000 We haven't.

00:19:13.000 Yeah.

00:19:14.000 You know. 0.98

00:19:16.000 Tomato, sex offender.

00:19:18.000 Uh, so, the man arrested, uh, by the way, for, let's, have you guys seen this, this, this was a clip that did go viral while we're talking about all the stuff that's been going on.

00:19:26.000 This man, uh, not trigger, I hate the now re-appropriated trigger, trigger warning means like a trigger warning, you might have PTSD because someone put male or female on your, your test.

00:19:38.000 No, this is an actual warning for people who might be underage, like, who might be watching. 0.68

00:19:43.000 Though, in retrospect, that should have been before the lady was masturbating in front of her law enforcement officers. 1.00

00:19:47.000 Well, you know, better late than never. 0.98

00:19:49.000 I was focusing on getting in character.

00:19:50.000 Yeah.

00:19:52.000 So, um, if you haven't seen this, this is a video that actually took place in New York City of a man knocking out a, uh, elderly, very old woman.

00:19:59.000 Yeah.

00:20:00.000 Here, let's watch this.

00:20:05.000 Yep.

00:20:06.000 Now, why is this important?

00:20:07.000 Because it does provide some context here as we get into the cop charged with murder.

00:20:11.000 That guy who you saw there?

00:20:12.000 He is a registered sex offender who's been arrested more than 100 times.

00:20:16.000 Wow.

00:20:16.000 That's gotta be a record.

00:20:17.000 I don't think it's a record.

00:20:18.000 How do you get arrested 100 times and not be in jail?

00:20:21.000 I don't know.

00:20:22.000 Maybe he's from Australia. 0.87

00:20:24.000 That is what they do.

00:20:25.000 He just said no?

00:20:26.000 I don't want to go to jail.

00:20:28.000 I have no idea.

00:20:29.000 You see that?

00:20:30.000 So let's say you're there on the street, and let's say that's your grandma, right?

00:20:34.000 And people die all the time from getting hit in the head.

00:20:36.000 That's why I support some kind of actual physical submission, whether it's a neck restraint or something that doesn't involve striking somebody forcefully.

00:20:43.000 Let's say that's your grandmother.

00:20:44.000 She's going to recover, but she hit her head in the fire hydrant.

00:20:47.000 It's your grandmother.

00:20:48.000 You go, whoa, hey, what's going on?

00:20:50.000 And the guy starts coming at you, or the guy starts running away, off to another old lady. 0.87

00:20:55.000 Yeah.

00:20:55.000 And you try and stop him.

00:20:56.000 But you can't!

00:20:57.000 You can't use a firearm to defend your grandmother.

00:21:00.000 You can't use a firearm to stop him.

00:21:01.000 Pierce's like, well, okay, hope for the best.

00:21:03.000 Maybe he'll run off into, oh, and it's an apartment complex.

00:21:05.000 Yeah.

00:21:06.000 There are a lot of old ladies there. 1.00

00:21:06.000 Aww. 1.00

00:21:08.000 Well, no way, it's an old, good news is they're almost all gone from COVID, so little damage he can do.

00:21:12.000 There you go.

00:21:13.000 I don't know why this offends me so much, too.

00:21:14.000 I know that there are other crimes that should offend me more.

00:21:16.000 Really?

00:21:16.000 You don't know why it offends you so much?

00:21:17.000 An old lady was knocked out.

00:21:18.000 I think I can guess.

00:21:19.000 If you'd let me finish there.

00:21:20.000 This is a hill to die on. 0.99

00:21:21.000 Like murderers, right? 0.95

00:21:22.000 Like, they offend me too, but for some reason when people pick on... They offend you?

00:21:26.000 They offend me as well.

00:21:27.000 Your instinct to stop him originally, Steven?

00:21:30.000 Murderer!

00:21:30.000 Was correct, yes.

00:21:31.000 You defend me.

00:21:32.000 But for some reason, when people pick on elderly and defenseless people, like, it offends me more than I think it should. 0.99

00:21:38.000 Like, it's bad, it's horrible, obviously, but it's like, I just want to beat the crap out of them. 0.97

00:21:42.000 Yeah, that's what he says. 0.98

00:21:43.000 I really do, yeah. 1.00

00:21:44.000 He deserves to have his head punched by someone who can do it. 1.00

00:21:48.000 Repeatedly. 1.00

00:21:49.000 Maybe a hundred.

00:21:50.000 For each arrest.

00:21:51.000 It's like a birthday thing.

00:21:52.000 And a pinch to grow an inch.

00:21:54.000 And a nine millimeter.

00:21:55.000 Just kidding.

00:21:56.000 Just kidding.

00:21:57.000 Ummmm.

00:21:58.000 Joking.

00:21:59.000 Joking.

00:22:00.000 It is just a joke.

00:22:00.000 And me saying murder offense to you was bad?

00:22:03.000 Yeah, worse.

00:22:05.000 So the cop, Garrett Rolfe from Atlanta, and I did a video on this this morning, I had to get it out of my system, was charged with felony murder.

00:22:14.000 Felony murder, we went through this before, obviously you saw the clip where the man resisted arrest, beat the hell out of two cops, stole the taser, pointed it at them.

00:22:20.000 Here's the thing, is felony murder, can you explain felony murder to people who don't know Bill and don't get too legal easy? 0.98

00:22:26.000 Sure, there's murder where you're trying to... Sure, you want the stupid explanation? 0.99

00:22:30.000 I'll go. 1.00

00:22:31.000 Let me just come on down here.

00:22:32.000 Murders, you obviously cause someone to die, and you've either intended that or there's different levels of, you know, the intent or whether you knew it was going to happen.

00:22:40.000 And a felony murder is just someone died while you were committing a felony.

00:22:40.000 Sure.

00:22:45.000 So like an armed robbery, you're robbing a bank, and maybe you went in and didn't mean to shoot, but then someone dies, that would be a felony murder.

00:22:50.000 Sure, even if they died of a heart attack.

00:22:51.000 Right.

00:22:52.000 Because they are during the commission of the felony.

00:22:53.000 So here, you know, there's a number of charges.

00:22:55.000 They haven't released all of the documents.

00:22:57.000 They haven't given all of the information yet.

00:22:59.000 Even the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has said, whoa, whoa, whoa, we haven't even finished our investigation.

00:23:02.000 But they went ahead and said 11 charges, one of which is felony murder.

00:23:06.000 Felony murder.

00:23:06.000 So that means that the officer was committing a felony before he shot the man who stole his gun and supposedly aimed it at him, right?

00:23:13.000 Right.

00:23:13.000 What in the world could that felony Possibly.

00:23:15.000 Mr. Brooks, on the night of this incident, was calm.

00:23:19.000 also walking version of the guy who used to broom between the segments in Rocky and Bullwinkle.

00:23:25.000 You'll see what I mean. He looks like a human version of that, the DA statement on the felony

00:23:29.000 murder.

00:23:30.000 Mr. Brooks on the night of this incident was calm.

00:23:32.000 Tell that guy who would brush the broom and go, blah, blah, blah.

00:23:36.000 Wow.

00:23:36.000 Somebody didn't watch the video.

00:23:38.000 in charge of the nation. When an officer is pursuing a feeling suspect that the officer

00:23:45.000 may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless the officer has probable cause to believe

00:23:53.000 that the suspect poses an immediate threat of death or of serious physical injury to

00:24:01.000 that officer. The city of Atlanta SOPs in fact prohibit officers from firing tasers

00:24:09.000 at someone who is running away. So the city of Atlanta says you cannot even fire a taser

00:24:16.000 at someone who is running away so you certainly can't fire a gun, a handgun, at someone who

00:24:23.000 is running away.

00:24:24.000 So he said that the officers were under no fear of not only death.

00:24:28.000 But fear of immediate serious bodily injury.

00:24:31.000 None whatsoever.

00:24:32.000 That's what he said if you go and watch the full clip.

00:24:35.000 Also a real matte finish.

00:24:37.000 That guy wears a lot of powder.

00:24:38.000 He's got a lot of powder.

00:24:39.000 Like not even just a glisten under those lights.

00:24:41.000 Maybe he's just really comfortable lying.

00:24:42.000 Because here is him two weeks ago.

00:24:45.000 The same DA.

00:24:46.000 What's he saying about tasers?

00:24:48.000 charged with aggravated assault of Miss Pilgrim and this is for appointing a taser at Mrs.

00:24:56.000 Pilgrim and he was looking as many of you all know on the Georgia law a taser is considered as a deadly weapon

00:25:03.000 Oh So the taser was actually aimed and fired at the officer no,

00:25:08.000 so let me get this straight it's it's It's a deadly, it's only a deadly weapon if, well it's not, it is if a cop uses it but it's not if it's aimed at a cop, particularly if it's stolen.

00:25:18.000 Is there a property rights argument there?

00:25:20.000 Well, no.

00:25:25.000 I mean, here, this is one of those fundamental issues.

00:25:28.000 When you're making an argument, considering what are the other positions you've taken, and in this particular instance, there's no question that the allegations of even people that are within the political party represented the other folks who are the candidates against him, other folks who are in that department saying, Wait a minute, you literally have just said this, and not just said it once, right?

00:25:47.000 Maybe he was going to go, oh, two weeks ago I was wrong when I said it three times at the same time.

00:25:51.000 Nobody will remember that.

00:25:53.000 It's like, there's the internet, sir.

00:25:53.000 No one will remember.

00:25:55.000 Say what?

00:25:55.000 Say huh?

00:25:56.000 It's his position that that's the law, and he's said it multiple, multiple, multiple times.

00:26:00.000 I know, I know!

00:26:01.000 It's just you can't write this!

00:26:03.000 You can't write this, largely because I don't have the skill!

00:26:08.000 And by the way, if a taser is not at least a weapon, not only a deadly weapon, first off, it's not a deadly weapon.

00:26:15.000 I don't think that women should use it to protect themselves from rape. 1.00

00:26:18.000 Because the only thing that maybe stops a rape is something that's at least semi-deadly.

00:26:21.000 Like, I like my rape defenses for my wife at least, like, a little, at least moderately deadly.

00:26:27.000 Not like, ah, that's an itch.

00:26:28.000 And if it's not even, even can cause serious bodily injury incapacitation, why give it to police officers at all?

00:26:38.000 And by the way, this is something people, he stole after, and one of the officers has a concussion by the way, the guy who was spiked on his head, concussion, stole it, then aimed at the cop.

00:26:46.000 This is one thing, the media was watching CNN today, they still keep saying unarmed.

00:26:50.000 He wasn't unarmed.

00:26:51.000 He had the cop's taser, and he wasn't shot when he was running away.

00:26:51.000 No.

00:26:55.000 He was running away, only shot when he turned and aimed the gun.

00:26:59.000 And fired it.

00:27:00.000 And fired it, by the way.

00:27:01.000 You see the flash in the video. 1.00

00:27:02.000 And was obviously very close that he thought he could, you know, take some shooting lessons, asshole. 0.99

00:27:07.000 But he was close enough that he thought he could hit the officer, and what do you think happens if this weapon, which is designed to incapacitate, goes into it, and then he has access to, oh, congratulations, a utility belt of deadly weapons. 0.99

00:27:17.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 This is, this is, and I said this this morning, I'm sorry, you cannot at this point be neutral.

00:27:23.000 Neutral is, people have said silence is racist.

00:27:25.000 No, at this point, when people say you can save one life, like, oh, if we could save one George Floyd, you can save one life right now!

00:27:33.000 There's a man there who even if he didn't think did his job to the best of his abilities, I don't think that he should, I don't even think that he should be suspended with pay.

00:27:39.000 That's just my opinion.

00:27:41.000 Doesn't matter what you think, the charges have him facing death row unless somebody else steps in.

00:27:47.000 So when people, if you could save one life right now, everyone can make their voices heard, you can save one life.

00:27:52.000 The life of the officer who protected his buddy who had his weapon stolen, concussed, and aimed at him.

00:27:57.000 You want to save a life?

00:27:58.000 Let's get rid of the racial thing. 0.98

00:27:59.000 Save one life right now.

00:28:01.000 It would have been nice if we could have known beforehand this would happen to someone like a David Dorn, right, who we lost and we never get back, an actual hero.

00:28:08.000 If it saves one life, it's very rare that we have the opportunity, we have that long of a fuse to save a life.

00:28:15.000 We can do it right now.

00:28:16.000 Not only can we save his life, we can save countless other officers' lives saying, look, if your life is in danger, you can defend it.

00:28:22.000 I don't want you to hesitate because you could die.

00:28:24.000 That's what you do every single day.

00:28:25.000 This will cause other officers to either leave the job or get shot in a situation where maybe they could have defended themselves.

00:28:31.000 We're going to think twice about it now.

00:28:32.000 Yeah.

00:28:33.000 I had videos that I wanted to show.

00:28:34.000 I don't know if officers being... No, no, no, don't laugh because I was going to say officers are being shot roadside from sobriety tests.

00:28:40.000 Several officers shot multiple times after people being tased.

00:28:43.000 You can search it right now and find them.

00:28:44.000 There are more than you could watch in the span of this show.

00:28:46.000 Happens all the time. 0.62

00:28:48.000 Do you know that an officer is actually 18 times more likely to be shot by a black criminal during apprehension than to shoot an unarmed black man?

00:28:56.000 Since you're using the racial crime statistics, it does matter.

00:29:00.000 It really does matter.

00:29:01.000 When we're talking about genocide, going out and hunting people, this is what I've heard.

00:29:04.000 They've said it on the N-Turks, they've said it on CNN. 0.97

00:29:06.000 They're hunting people and black people in broad daylight. 0.99

00:29:09.000 But there's an 18 to 1 ratio of officers being killed. 0.97

00:29:09.000 Really? 0.97

00:29:14.000 And you want them defenseless.

00:29:15.000 By the way, the DA's being investigated for funneling $140,000 to supplement his salary, facing all these allegations of sexual harassment.

00:29:22.000 And he has a pretty tough primary challenge, I think a runoff, right?

00:29:24.000 Yeah, it's actually moved on to a runoff.

00:29:26.000 Bill, so like, this charge doesn't seem to make any sense to anybody that's outside looking in, right?

00:29:31.000 He rushed it before the investigation was over, and it doesn't seem like it's felony murder no matter how you slice it.

00:29:37.000 How in the world could he justify a charge like that?

00:29:39.000 Do you see anything?

00:29:40.000 Well, universally being reviled for having moved too quickly and even to set a standard

00:29:44.000 where if you're going to make a charge now and the charge isn't going to work out, you're

00:29:49.000 either going to end up with someone who there was no, you know, whether you believe there's

00:29:53.000 justice or not, you're not going to get, you're not going to have any version of justice when

00:29:56.000 you overcharge someone and you rush to judgment.

00:29:59.000 And so that's the question is being raised right now is, was this politically motivated

00:30:03.000 to come out ahead of time, do it before all the facts were known, before the investigating

00:30:07.000 body was done to use very aggressively.

00:30:09.000 Even the New York Times today, they're legal experts.

00:30:11.000 We're talking about, wait a minute, this is way faster than it should have ever been considered in this moment.

00:30:18.000 And look, I understand that there's a lot happening in the city, but essentially what you're saying is, well, sometimes we're going to rush and just rush to misjudgment because people are screaming.

00:30:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:30:28.000 And do we think it's by design at this point?

00:30:31.000 Because what do you think the likelihoods are of either the charges getting dismissed or him being found not guilty, if you had to bet?

00:30:37.000 I think they're pretty high.

00:30:38.000 Yeah, of felony murder.

00:30:39.000 And so what do you think is going to happen?

00:30:41.000 Right.

00:30:42.000 Well, on the charge of felony murder, not guilty, no justice, no peace!

00:30:48.000 Right, exactly.

00:30:49.000 And I think he's definitely doing it for this runoff.

00:30:51.000 He didn't win the election.

00:30:52.000 He was down by 10 or 12 points to somebody in his own party that he's running against.

00:30:55.000 So it's a big stunt.

00:30:56.000 Exactly.

00:30:56.000 And he is painting this person as somebody who's more of a Republican.

00:30:59.000 The police already don't like this guy, the DA currently, because he arrested officers in a questionable case before.

00:31:05.000 So now he's just going all in.

00:31:06.000 He's like, well, the Black Lives Matter movement right now is in our city.

00:31:09.000 I'm going all in.

00:31:10.000 I'm a man of the people.

00:31:11.000 Vote for me and I will take care of bad police officers.

00:31:13.000 That's what he's doing right now.

00:31:14.000 And we have the Change My Minds coming up actually next week, specifically on America Isn't Racist, and we actually had some great conversations.

00:31:20.000 Surprisingly, a lot of black people who sat down, and black liberals who didn't agree with me, but we actually sat down and found some common ground.

00:31:26.000 We disagreed on the whole idea of some of the protests and the kneeling, but also I was enlightened.

00:31:31.000 There were some new things that I learned about the black community, and they learned some things about the white community, namely that we're not good dancers. 1.00

00:31:35.000 And that you have a large ass. 1.00

00:31:37.000 No one learned that this week. 1.00

00:31:39.000 I just started doing the father-in-law wedding dance.

00:31:39.000 I'm gonna be honest.

00:31:43.000 There's no assumption necessary.

00:31:44.000 There's significant empirical data.

00:31:46.000 What does a cop do?

00:31:48.000 Well, we don't want the cops to have guns, okay?

00:31:50.000 Well, we can't use chokeholds, okay?

00:31:52.000 Which, by the way, they reversed in France.

00:31:53.000 France!

00:31:54.000 Because they were saying it was too deadly for officers because they couldn't use chokeholds.

00:31:57.000 So no guns, no chokeholds.

00:31:58.000 What do you think they want to do with tasers now?

00:32:00.000 At the very least, we don't know.

00:32:01.000 Is it a deadly weapon?

00:32:02.000 Is it not?

00:32:02.000 So officers are going to be scared.

00:32:04.000 And I talked about this this morning.

00:32:05.000 I would love to start just a GoFundMe for all these officers who are walking so they can have some place to go to.

00:32:10.000 I can't do it, but what we will do is create some merch, I think, either with David Dorn or something, and all proceeds from the merch will go You can't say, not all black people, which is correct, and then say but all cops. 0.97

00:32:18.000 be there soon. And of course, thin blue line from Black Rifle Coffee is there. They've

00:32:22.000 had it for a long time that goes supporting law enforcement officials. So and that's not

00:32:26.000 a commercial. I'll talk about it later. But that is if you want to support police officers,

00:32:29.000 because listen, you can't say not all black people, which is correct. And then say, but

00:32:34.000 all cops. Yeah, you just can't do that because there are a lot of great police officers out

00:32:39.000 there. And I don't know. And I'm a fan of the chokeholds of the neck restraint, because

00:32:43.000 I'd rather someone go unconscious and be cuffed without any kind of permanent damage than

00:32:47.000 and someone have to go to a gun or a taser.

00:32:50.000 And let me make my case here.

00:32:51.000 What do you guys think of chokeholds?

00:32:53.000 Especially people who've never actually had one applied to them or used it at all.

00:32:57.000 Because we're going to actually do it.

00:32:59.000 I don't think Wade's ever had a neck restraint.

00:33:01.000 Oh, this is good.

00:33:02.000 I won't lie, neck restraint sounds more harmless.

00:33:04.000 It does.

00:33:05.000 It makes it sound kind of nice.

00:33:06.000 Here's what I'll say.

00:33:07.000 It's more uncomfortable than a neck restraint, but less unpleasant than you would assume a chokehold would be.

00:33:13.000 But you might poop.

00:33:14.000 You know, there could be feces. 0.83

00:33:18.000 Drink less coffee.

00:33:18.000 It's okay.

00:33:19.000 Like Steven Seagal and his under siege, Eugene LaBelle.

00:33:22.000 He tried to punch me in the little sisters and I choked him and I guess he didn't go to the bathroom because then he went, I never go to the bathroom.

00:33:30.000 Bad things happen.

00:33:33.000 What concerns me is folks not thinking about what is the logical conclusion of all this.

00:33:38.000 If we're at a place where there's an attack, there's an officer, officers are hurt, a taser's taken, a taser's pointed, and at any of those moments, essentially what you said by having the felony murder charge and saying that one of those acts was a felony, is you're saying you shouldn't have done any of those acts.

00:33:53.000 And what that means is, okay, fine, just say, in that moment, we just let this guy go.

00:33:57.000 But you have to create a rule that applies to all interactions with officers.

00:34:00.000 So in a moment when an officer has a suspected DOI, someone who chose to be in their vehicle, right, and was operating their vehicle in a dangerous way, in a way that we all as a nation agree is wrong, drunk driving.

00:34:11.000 He didn't, by the way, the media report is, oh, he pulled into, like, he pulled into the expectant mother's spot.

00:34:15.000 No, no, no.

00:34:16.000 He was just Homer Simpson at the nuclear switch.

00:34:19.000 And so then the only answer that cops are given then is...

00:34:26.000 Let everyone go.

00:34:27.000 And say, nope, go free into the community, hopefully we'll find you.

00:34:27.000 Let everyone go.

00:34:31.000 I wish I knew this as a skater kid, right?

00:34:33.000 When cops would show up and be like, hey, stay right there.

00:34:35.000 No!

00:34:36.000 And just skate off.

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:37.000 We actually respected police.

00:34:38.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:34:39.000 We were just like, oh, wait, hold on a second.

00:34:40.000 What is a cop going to do?

00:34:42.000 Oh, yes, sorry, we're sorry, officer.

00:34:43.000 Yeah, we'll take the wax off that railing. 0.76

00:34:47.000 But instead now it's like, no!

00:34:47.000 Yeah.

00:34:49.000 Drat.

00:34:50.000 And I don't know if you saw in that video, before he got all crazy, he was apparently calm and everything was fine.

00:34:57.000 The cops tried to do something.

00:34:58.000 They tried to put cuffs on him and arrest him, which is their job.

00:35:00.000 One of their officers had him in a bit of a chokehold.

00:35:04.000 They had him around the neck a couple of times and it looked like he loosened it and tried to move it to the side.

00:35:09.000 It wasn't a chokehold.

00:35:10.000 No, it was not a chokehold at all.

00:35:11.000 I thought he was trying to maintain control by using it, and then maybe had the thought, like, I can't use that anymore.

00:35:15.000 Yeah, you can't control someone with a chokehold, actually.

00:35:17.000 If you control someone, you need to control the torso, the head, the hips, and a chokehold is to actually have someone pass out.

00:35:21.000 You know, let's go on to the chokehold thing.

00:35:22.000 I've been so upset about this, I have a pit in my stomach, because this man is facing death.

00:35:26.000 Doesn't matter what charges you think.

00:35:28.000 I'm more upset with, by the way, the Christian conservative right.

00:35:30.000 Because, well, you know what, we'll just pray from afar.

00:35:33.000 No! 0.96

00:35:34.000 There's a man who could be put to death.

00:35:36.000 Neutrality is not an option.

00:35:39.000 That's not an option right now. Okay people, and you see this in all this Los Angeles and California

00:35:43.000 and New York and like, well you know what, Jesus is just love. Jesus flipped over some tables.

00:35:48.000 And if you want to save a life, you can speak out and help save a life right now. Because by all

00:35:53.000 accounts, we have a good change tomorrow, a good man could be put to death to appease a mob of evil

00:35:59.000 people if good men don't step in.

00:36:02.000 And you know what?

00:36:03.000 If you don't step in now when the wolves are at the door, expect us to love you and pray for you from afar, but we're gonna go lock, lock, lock, lock, bolt.

00:36:12.000 Stand up and grow a pair.

00:36:13.000 By the way, that includes Donald Trump.

00:36:15.000 That includes all the Republican bootlickers at this point right now.

00:36:17.000 There were riots before we elected you, and there are riots worse now.

00:36:22.000 Do something.

00:36:23.000 Because I don't know that you deserve anyone's votes at this point.

00:36:26.000 Okay?

00:36:28.000 Let's go into the executive order on chokeholds, which of course no one in this administration actually know what they are, and we'll talk with Jock Long about it, but here's what he says.

00:36:33.000 As part of this new credentialing process, choke calls will be banned except if an officer's life is at risk.

00:36:42.000 How do you determine that?

00:36:44.000 And I will say we've dealt with all of the various departments and everybody said, it's time.

00:36:51.000 We have to do it.

00:36:52.000 So then in this scenario, in Atlanta, the officers couldn't have used a choke hold because they weren't even under threat of bodily injury, according to the DA.

00:37:01.000 That's the craziest part about it is you have to ignore all of the physical attack and they call it tussling, right?

00:37:07.000 It's tussling.

00:37:08.000 Those boys got into a hootenanny.

00:37:13.000 You have to ignore the reality of the situation and the facts that are shown on video to say that there wasn't a threat of physical violence in that moment.

00:37:19.000 Yeah.

00:37:19.000 And police officers need better physical training.

00:37:20.000 We'll talk about how to do that with Jocko Willink.

00:37:22.000 Let me be really clear.

00:37:24.000 People get this wrong.

00:37:24.000 A chokehold.

00:37:25.000 Like, oh my gosh, a chokehold is like drowning.

00:37:26.000 And I'm going to display it later on Wade here in a couple of minutes.

00:37:30.000 It's not at all.

00:37:32.000 And you can understand that really quickly just by seeing how quickly a chokehold or a neck restraint.

00:37:38.000 It's a vascular neck restraint.

00:37:39.000 People use the term choke.

00:37:40.000 It's a blood choke.

00:37:42.000 It's not a windpipe choke, what we're talking about here.

00:37:44.000 There are windpipe chokes, but what we're talking about is a vascular neck restraint.

00:37:50.000 Drowning takes a while, because there's no oxygen.

00:37:52.000 You can't breathe in any oxygen, right?

00:37:54.000 Right.

00:37:54.000 But chokeholds, vascular neck restraints, can actually work within seconds.

00:37:58.000 Here's an example of Joe Rogan from, I don't know, maybe 12 years ago, applying a chokehold, so you can see how quickly someone goes out.

00:38:04.000 Yeah, you can trust me.

00:38:05.000 Are we ready?

00:38:07.000 Ready?

00:38:09.000 Keep going.

00:38:11.000 You ready?

00:38:12.000 He's out!

00:38:13.000 He's out!

00:38:14.000 Is he out?

00:38:15.000 You alright, man?

00:38:17.000 Wake up, dude.

00:38:19.000 You alright?

00:38:22.000 And he's out!

00:38:23.000 Two seconds to put him out. 0.61

00:38:24.000 Put cuffs on him.

00:38:25.000 Yeah, totally fine.

00:38:26.000 Your head's red!

00:38:28.000 Hello? You okay?

00:38:29.000 Do it again.

00:38:31.000 No!

00:38:33.000 What happened?

00:38:35.000 He went out pretty quick.

00:38:37.000 Alright, there we go.

00:38:39.000 No, it doesn't take long.

00:38:40.000 It's not like drowning.

00:38:42.000 Let me be really clear.

00:38:42.000 Chocolate is one that's not applied to the windpipe.

00:38:45.000 One that's applied properly.

00:38:46.000 It impedes arterial blood flow.

00:38:48.000 Let me explain it to you in a simple way.

00:38:49.000 The brain recognizes that the blood flow is compromised.

00:38:52.000 It sends a message going...

00:38:53.000 Oh, wait a second.

00:38:54.000 And the heart starts slowing down its pulse.

00:38:57.000 It starts slowing down the blood needed.

00:38:58.000 Effectively, a chokehold is one of the very few kinds of techniques that you can use, whereas a pain hold, a submission, sometimes the damage is already being done.

00:39:05.000 When someone feels it, if they're on PCP, they have no idea.

00:39:08.000 A chokehold, a vascular neck restraint, effectively puts your body into standby mode so that it prevents damage.

00:39:15.000 So that you don't drown.

00:39:16.000 For someone of decent health, and by the way, that's the same reason you can't use tranquilizer guns, because we don't know what drugs are in these people.

00:39:22.000 There's no 100% safe way.

00:39:24.000 But for someone who doesn't have a serious condition, and even with people who have more serious conditions, a vascular neck restraint is undoubtedly more safe than a punch, a strike, a baton, a taser if they have a pacemaker, a tranquilizer.

00:39:36.000 Your body goes, wait a second, I'm not gonna get blood.

00:39:39.000 I don't want actual drowning to happen where there's brain damage, so let's shut everything down

00:39:44.000 so that there's as little blood flow and as little oxygen in the blood necessary

00:39:49.000 so that I can actually sustain this.

00:39:51.000 That's the wonder of the vascular neck restraint is you can be put out, never hurt, no damage.

00:39:57.000 I don't think you can think of it, people don't just get hit and your body doesn't go like,

00:40:00.000 oh my gosh, I'm going to take a nap to protect, you already have concussive brain damage. 0.97

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00:40:23.000 Oh, I know.

00:40:25.000 And I know that they're trained athletes, but I put this on Twitter, and I think we'll have Jocko Willink, we've had Chael Sloan, we've had Daniel Cormier.

00:40:25.000 I know.

00:40:32.000 People who compete in striking sports like boxing, kickboxing, are far more likely to sustain serious permanent injury or death, right?

00:40:38.000 You've heard about concussive syndrome.

00:40:40.000 Yeah, just look at Muhammad Ali.

00:40:41.000 And we have, I think, a source here from Academic, yeah.

00:40:43.000 And then we have another source from PubMed where grappling sports chokeholds are actually much safer.

00:40:49.000 Let me get this straight.

00:40:50.000 Studies show that proper choke hold taught to police rarely ever fatal, rarely even serious injuries.

00:40:55.000 As a matter of fact, according to the Police Brutality Database run by Fatal Encounters, a pro-police reform organization, less than 1% of people die from any form of asphyxiation while under any type of restraint during police encounters.

00:41:09.000 Three and a half times!

00:41:12.000 More people are killed by tasers.

00:41:13.000 Oh, so tasers are a deadly weapon.

00:41:15.000 Tasers are significantly more dangerous than chokeholds.

00:41:17.000 And I understand, listen, but these are unpleasant scenarios.

00:41:20.000 What you have to do is pick an option that keeps people as safe as possible, both the perp and the police officer.

00:41:27.000 And there is, right now, an actual technique available that can be used to render someone entirely incapacitated without electrocuting their heart or rattling their brain around in their skull.

00:41:39.000 It's a gift!

00:41:40.000 And we give it to you, the people!

00:41:44.000 It is unreal to me.

00:41:45.000 Let me ask you this.

00:41:46.000 How many careers have you seen ended in boxing or in mixed martial arts from a strike?

00:41:50.000 In boxing it used to be, I don't know if they cleaned it up, it was like four deaths a year.

00:41:53.000 The only death I think we've seen in a sanctioned MMA bout is weight cutting.

00:41:57.000 But many careers have been ended from strikes, repetitive strikes, people have broken their shins.

00:42:02.000 Name me one person who suffered permanent damage in any professional fighting sport.

00:42:07.000 Sanctioned fighting sport from a chokehold.

00:42:08.000 It's never happened.

00:42:09.000 Now people say, well, it's because you tap.

00:42:09.000 Yeah.

00:42:11.000 No!

00:42:11.000 You can find videos longer than you can watch.

00:42:13.000 More footage you can watch in a lifetime of people going unconscious in the octagon.

00:42:17.000 Yeah.

00:42:17.000 Now they say, well, referee steps in.

00:42:19.000 That's the point of police training.

00:42:19.000 Sure.

00:42:22.000 Exactly.

00:42:22.000 You don't hold a choke for a minute.

00:42:24.000 If you hold it, they go out, cuff them, you're done.

00:42:26.000 So, here, and we're starting at the wrong place.

00:42:28.000 When you talk about safety, you start with the officer's safety first and work from there.

00:42:32.000 Obviously, you don't want anybody killed or damaged if they don't need to be if they're a perp, but the officer's safety is paramount first.

00:42:38.000 They're the one going after the criminal.

00:42:39.000 Yeah.

00:42:40.000 Do we forget that?

00:42:41.000 Their primary purpose, of course, is to serve and protect us. 0.98

00:42:44.000 And so a guy driving, completely drunk off his ass or high as a kite, who's running out into civilization and can do any number of untold damage afterward, yes, the cops need to subdue that person. 0.97

00:42:56.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:56.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:42:57.000 So restrain that person.

00:42:58.000 But they have no way to do it now.

00:42:59.000 We've taken away all... I mean, what do we give them?

00:43:01.000 A billy club and say just, you know, hit him in the balls, I guess? 0.99

00:43:03.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:43:04.000 What else are you going to hit?

00:43:04.000 Good lord.

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00:43:20.000 Gerald, are you running for district attorney on that platform?

00:43:23.000 I am, yeah.

00:43:24.000 That's a good platform.

00:43:25.000 I'll tell you what, I don't plan on ever running for office, but if I do, I'm going to play that clip nonstop.

00:43:31.000 And this is my Secretary of Defense, Billy Club Balls, Billy Club Balls, Billy Club Balls, Billy Club Balls, Australian Wine, and Gerald Morgan.

00:43:39.000 I present my cabinet.

00:43:40.000 Have you also seen that my legal secretary, lawyer, he's half Asian, so we're good, we're covered.

00:43:49.000 You know what, we're going to take a quick break, I'm going to come back and show you what a chokehold, what a vascular neck restraint is like, and what it is not, on our very own audio way to anyone who wants to take part.

00:43:58.000 Just a minute, we'll set up right here.

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00:44:49.000 We had to set up.

00:44:50.000 Who are you wearing?

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00:44:55.000 It's time to try a choke hold on Wade.

00:44:57.000 All right, it's gonna be a fun. No, it's just we're gonna show what it is. So first let me show you something

00:45:07.000 that's really, uh, someone does, we'll talk about this with Jaco in a minute.

00:45:10.000 Remember they were stopping to grab the guy's taser?

00:45:12.000 Okay, so let me show you before we go to a chokehold.

00:45:14.000 Right here there's a taser.

00:45:15.000 You can apply a joint lock, but I want to show you what a joint lock is so you can see how unpleasant this is, for example.

00:45:20.000 So let's say I'm coming in here, I grab that wrist, and I pin Wade.

00:45:23.000 This is what we know as a Camur.

00:45:25.000 It's a shoulder lock.

00:45:25.000 Wade, what you're going to do is you're going to tap when you start feeling some pain, okay?

00:45:30.000 Okay, so there you go.

00:45:31.000 So, and I'm not in proper position right now because we have a desk behind us, but that's unpleasant, that hurts.

00:45:37.000 Okay, so now, sit back up.

00:45:39.000 I had to take my boots off.

00:45:40.000 No, no, put your seat up there. 0.68

00:45:41.000 So, everyone's gonna say this is gay, but anyone who's ever actually applied to Choke knows what this is. 0.99

00:45:47.000 I took off my shoes because I didn't want to hit him in the balls. 0.99

00:45:52.000 So, typically what happens is a rear naked choke. 0.98

00:45:53.000 You see this a lot in MMA.

00:45:55.000 I'm trying to control his body here.

00:45:56.000 So this is a good establishing of control.

00:45:58.000 So right, let's say you try and squirm out.

00:46:00.000 The whole reason I'm just controlling your body here.

00:46:02.000 And you have some options, but here, see I'm riding you like a backpack.

00:46:05.000 There's an over-under grip.

00:46:07.000 Now, what I want to do, and let me just show really quickly.

00:46:09.000 I don't want to choke you on the windpipe, okay?

00:46:12.000 So if you're uncomfortable, obviously just tap.

00:46:14.000 We'll let it go.

00:46:16.000 But I want you to Let me know if you can breathe.

00:46:19.000 Okay?

00:46:20.000 Because a lot of people think it's like drowning.

00:46:21.000 What really happens is I'm getting his carotid arteries right here.

00:46:24.000 I'm going to be shutting down blood flow.

00:46:26.000 Okay?

00:46:26.000 And there are a multitude of ways to do it.

00:46:27.000 I can actually do it here with his collar.

00:46:30.000 This is called a bow and arrow choke.

00:46:31.000 So see, look at this.

00:46:31.000 You can even see my forearm is not on his throat, right?

00:46:35.000 You can see that it's not, but I can cut off the blood circulation that way.

00:46:38.000 There are a million different ways, but the most common is what's called the rear naked choke.

00:46:41.000 So what I'm going to do is grab weight here.

00:46:43.000 Okay?

00:46:45.000 Put this under his chin.

00:46:45.000 I don't want to get a zipper on you.

00:46:48.000 It's better than a taser to the heart.

00:46:50.000 That's true. 1.00

00:46:51.000 Or the balls. 0.99

00:46:52.000 But you electrify my heart. 0.99

00:46:55.000 Wade, don't worry. 0.99

00:46:56.000 The segment is called Let's Kill Wade. 0.91

00:46:58.000 So what I'm going to do here is put him in a choke hold and if any of you have questions you can ask. 0.89

00:47:03.000 I'm going to grab my own bicep, my own shoulder.

00:47:05.000 The idea here Is to close the space around his neck as much as I can.

00:47:09.000 So a lot of people get this wrong if they're not trained properly.

00:47:12.000 What they'll do is they'll grab this and they'll jerk it.

00:47:14.000 Right?

00:47:14.000 I had one trainer who called this for some reason.

00:47:18.000 I don't know why.

00:47:19.000 The Captain America and the Wolverine.

00:47:22.000 I don't know why.

00:47:26.000 So let me show you kind of really quickly if you can come here and show.

00:47:28.000 Let's say this is Wade's head right here.

00:47:30.000 Let's say this is Wade's head.

00:47:34.000 The goal is to close the space. 0.82

00:47:36.000 This is his throat.

00:47:37.000 My elbow is ideally right where his throat is.

00:47:39.000 So that's the least amount of pressure being applied is right on his trachea, if I'm doing it correctly.

00:47:44.000 But I wanna squeeze the sides of his neck.

00:47:46.000 So here's all the space for Wade's head right now.

00:47:48.000 Close it, okay?

00:47:50.000 There's a little less space, right?

00:47:52.000 Close that.

00:47:52.000 Now what I do is put this on my shoulder.

00:47:54.000 Little less space.

00:47:55.000 Imagine his head right here on my chest.

00:47:56.000 Bring this around.

00:47:58.000 There's a little less space.

00:48:00.000 Something else I do.

00:48:02.000 There's a little less space.

00:48:04.000 Then I squeeze everything together.

00:48:05.000 I don't yank.

00:48:06.000 That's how you miss a choke.

00:48:08.000 That's why you see some guys who can be choked for a long time and they don't go out.

00:48:10.000 What I want to do here is get my head on this side and close that space.

00:48:15.000 Look at that space right there.

00:48:16.000 How much space is there for Wade's head?

00:48:18.000 Not a whole lot.

00:48:20.000 Wade's thrilled.

00:48:22.000 I'm assuming it'll actually be applied more quickly.

00:48:24.000 Yeah.

00:48:25.000 So Wade, what I want to do is start applying it and I'm going to apply it.

00:48:28.000 So my goal is not to make you go unconscious, but if it doesn't hurt, You know, you don't have to tap because it's not going to be painful if you do go out.

00:48:34.000 Sure.

00:48:34.000 I just want to get rid of the zipper here.

00:48:36.000 Now, what I am going to do is, do me a favor since, just, let's point your throat so it's right in the nook of my elbow. 0.70

00:48:41.000 So, turn to the right?

00:48:42.000 There you go.

00:48:42.000 Yeah, right there.

00:48:43.000 Okay.

00:48:44.000 Just for right now.

00:48:45.000 Now, what I'm going to do is slowly apply some pressure and I want you to tell me if you can breathe.

00:48:50.000 Okay?

00:48:50.000 Okay.

00:48:53.000 Now, can you breathe?

00:48:54.000 Yep.

00:48:55.000 Okay, now can you breathe?

00:48:56.000 A little bit less, yeah.

00:48:57.000 Now what I'm going to do is I'm going to apply the pressure to the point that you could go unconscious, and you can tap, but I want you to tell me if it's because you can't breathe, okay?

00:49:06.000 Tap his foot if you need to go up.

00:49:16.000 Is he out?

00:49:17.000 Alright, he's out.

00:49:20.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:49:21.000 You okay?

00:49:21.000 He's back in.

00:49:22.000 Good?

00:49:23.000 I'm right here.

00:49:24.000 You want to raise his feet up?

00:49:27.000 Just raise his feet up.

00:49:28.000 This is what we do.

00:49:29.000 You good?

00:49:29.000 Blood flow back.

00:49:31.000 Do you know that you went unconscious?

00:49:33.000 Uh, makes sense.

00:49:36.000 Are you good?

00:49:38.000 Yeah, I'm fine.

00:49:39.000 Could you breathe?

00:49:40.000 It wasn't waterboarding at all, no.

00:49:41.000 Did you feel like you were drowning?

00:49:44.000 No.

00:49:44.000 Did it hurt your neck?

00:49:45.000 No.

00:49:47.000 I didn't know if you could.

00:49:48.000 Thank God for the audience there.

00:49:51.000 I felt it, and see, right away I kind of felt, okay, he's going out, and that happened, he came out, and by the way, that's not a seizure or anything, that's literally his body going, oh, power up from standby mode.

00:49:59.000 You good?

00:50:00.000 Nice for being a champ about it.

00:50:01.000 Nice! 0.94

00:50:02.000 See?

00:50:02.000 Didn't even, by the way, he would not have been able to do that if I crushed his windpipe.

00:50:07.000 Sure.

00:50:07.000 You drown, there's no way, you're like, oh, that's okay, I can't breathe.

00:50:10.000 And all of us have had this done to us who've done Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, so go find your local instructor.

00:50:13.000 Speaking of which, I think we're going to have to go to Jaco, and I'm going to buy this man a beer.

00:50:17.000 I'm not going to do it.

00:51:13.000 If you're listening on audio, you're probably wondering what's happening right now.

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00:51:21.000 All right, on next guess, off to be careful, the cliff is manius.

00:51:35.000 He thinks he's very territorial, he always thinks I'm invading his territory, and he is one hell of an energy drink.

00:51:42.000 I haven't had it because I hate pina coladas!

00:51:45.000 No, I have had it actually, our next guest, and he just asked me about the energy drinks, and I will say this.

00:51:50.000 I always try to be straightforward, like with Black Rifle Coffee, I don't like the black beer because I don't like dark roasts.

00:51:55.000 This is my favorite coffee.

00:51:56.000 I was only given a pina colada tasting energy drink, which I think anything with coconut and pineapple tastes like suntan lotion.

00:52:02.000 I mean, I don't want to taste it.

00:52:05.000 To me, anything that has that flavor, it tastes like they cleaned up the bar at Sandals and put it in a cup.

00:52:12.000 So, that being said, that's just personal, but I have heard that all the flavors are great, and people here who love that flavor know that it's the best.

00:52:19.000 So, I'm looking forward to getting other flavors.

00:52:21.000 Of course, you know him, you love him.

00:52:22.000 He was on Joe Rogan's show recently, so a lot of people have been asking for him.

00:52:25.000 You can follow him more at jacopodcast.com.

00:52:28.000 He has his own show.

00:52:29.000 Mr. Jaco Willink, how are you, sir?

00:52:31.000 What's happening?

00:52:32.000 Well, I just kind of filled you in on that, but I can rehash it if you like.

00:52:36.000 You're going to send non-pina colada flavored energy.

00:52:39.000 Yes, I'll send you the I'll send you the Psycho Citrus, it's kind of like a lemon-lime deal, or the DAC Savage, which is like a, what is it, cherry-vanilla, dark black cherry-vanilla?

00:52:51.000 Oh, I like cherry!

00:52:52.000 Yeah!

00:52:54.000 What's your favorite, the tropical?

00:52:56.000 No, my favorite is actually Citrus Psycho, it's like a lemon-lime scenario.

00:53:00.000 Do you find it difficult sometimes to have to keep track, like through your sort of Rolodex, of what the flavor actually is versus what the Jaco brand has to title it?

00:53:08.000 You know what?

00:53:10.000 Look, it'd be really cool if I could have called the piña colada one just piña colada, because that's what it tastes like.

00:53:15.000 But the bottom line is, I couldn't call it piña colada.

00:53:19.000 That's like a girl's drink in a tropical place, right? 0.99

00:53:23.000 Not happening here!

00:53:24.000 Right, well, way to cut out 50% of your market share.

00:53:27.000 Women need not drink charcoal energy. 1.00

00:53:30.000 Paris, something to do with fertility?

00:53:32.000 I don't know.

00:53:35.000 So, Jaco, listen, it's no secret, obviously, that you were a Navy SEAL and you've trained with a lot of some of the most high-level operatives in the world, and you've been talking about police recently.

00:53:45.000 And this is a hot topic right now, obviously, with police brutality versus training versus solutions.

00:53:50.000 Some people are calling for defunding the police.

00:53:52.000 The very first thing I said when this story came out, I think, where everyone agreed with George Floyd and Chauvin that it was I said we need better training first off.

00:54:00.000 We can get to the unions in a little bit, but we need better training because a lot of these officers, they have to go to their tool belt, right?

00:54:05.000 They get very little time in unarmed hand-to-hand combat training, and so it's hard to de-escalate if you have to go to a tool that escalates it.

00:54:13.000 And of course, you've worked with these people more closely.

00:54:17.000 Give us some insight here as to what you think some of the solutions may be, and what kind of training a police officer gets right now when they go out there into the field.

00:54:26.000 So right now, they get a sustainment training for what they call defensive tactics or combatives and what those two things combine together.

00:54:34.000 What they mean is how do you arrest somebody?

00:54:35.000 How do you put hands on someone?

00:54:37.000 It includes some of their weapons retention skills.

00:54:40.000 So it's a huge amount of knowledge that a person should have.

00:54:44.000 And they get about two to four hours on average a year.

00:54:49.000 A year.

00:54:50.000 And they're supposed to be proficient in this stuff.

00:54:53.000 It's not even remotely close to the amount of training that they need.

00:54:56.000 My suggestion that I'm trying to tell people all over the place is I think police officers should spend one-fifth of their time training.

00:55:05.000 One-fifth of their time training.

00:55:06.000 So, you know, eight hours a week out of a 40-hour week, one day a week, maybe two hours a day, however you want to skin it, but you need to do this training all the time.

00:55:14.000 You know, we used to spend 18 months in training preparing to go on deployment.

00:55:20.000 And then we go into deployment for six months.

00:55:22.000 And then we come back, we would train again.

00:55:24.000 Police officers, they get this little tiny fraction of training.

00:55:27.000 So that's what they need to start doing.

00:55:30.000 And hopefully, if they do that, people become more comfortable.

00:55:34.000 The more confident you are, the more comfortable you are handling people, the more capable you are of handling people, the more varying degrees you can use to apply force and get people under control.

00:55:46.000 Because if you don't have the capability of getting someone under control with your hands, well, then you're using weapons.

00:55:51.000 Right.

00:55:52.000 And if you fail with your first weapon, you're going to your second weapon, and usually for police officers, their second weapon is a pistol, and someone's getting killed.

00:56:00.000 Right.

00:56:00.000 So it's not a good situation right now, and it's certainly something we need to focus on as a country.

00:56:05.000 Well, you touched on a couple things there.

00:56:06.000 I think you're right.

00:56:07.000 No one is denying that this is an intense job, but we're not treating it the same as other intense jobs.

00:56:12.000 Like you just mentioned, if you're on a tour of duty, Or, for example, take any sport.

00:56:16.000 You can take, obviously, strongmen.

00:56:17.000 They might compete a few times a year.

00:56:20.000 Hockey players have a season.

00:56:21.000 Basketball players have a season.

00:56:22.000 And then police officers, they don't have a season of training.

00:56:25.000 With a short burst of performance, they have performance, performance, performance, with very little upkeep in training.

00:56:31.000 And maybe that's an important component to this, is shifting that mindset.

00:56:34.000 People are saying shifting the mindset to de-escalation, shifting the mindset to social workers instead of police.

00:56:39.000 But we first maybe need to shift the mindset to understanding how intense this can be, and what the capabilities are, like you're saying, for output.

00:56:47.000 Do you think it may be somewhere between what we have and what exists in the military, middle ground, but it should be closer to more training like a military operative?

00:56:56.000 Not the same kind of missions, but the level of training.

00:57:00.000 Yeah, it's definitely not the same kind of missions, but Yeah, we need to lean in that direction.

00:57:04.000 The bottom line is the military is an extreme version of training, for sure, and they don't need that much training because they're working all the time. 0.58

00:57:11.000 But to do basically zero training or 1% of your time training is totally ridiculous.

00:57:16.000 Yeah, the Hodgetwins came in actually, and they were both Marines, and we took them to the range and said, we never fired a pistol!

00:57:23.000 They gave us an M16 and said, aim it downrange.

00:57:26.000 And they said, we never really had done hand-to-hand combat training.

00:57:28.000 They said, it really varies in different branches of the military.

00:57:31.000 It's specialized.

00:57:32.000 And I'm sure you probably have a remark about the Marines since you're a Navy SEAL, right?

00:57:35.000 Something like village people, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:57:38.000 No, I would say the Marines are outstanding, and I work with the Marine Corps, and they're just some of the most professional people you could ever want to work with.

00:57:43.000 Drink Jackal Energy!

00:57:44.000 So, let me ask you, speaking of escalating, the French, this brings us to the idea of chokeholds, because we don't want police officers right now, or a lot of people are calling for defunding.

00:57:55.000 Okay, that's an extreme example, but it is the Black Lives Matter movement right now.

00:57:58.000 Their leadership call is to totally abolish and defund the police.

00:58:01.000 Scale it back.

00:58:02.000 Defunding the police, diverting those funds to social workers, or workers who have non-lethal force at all as part of their protocol.

00:58:11.000 Then scale that back a little bit, you know, we end up with, okay, maybe we get rid of guns from police officers.

00:58:15.000 That's a call.

00:58:16.000 But then I've also seen, after Rayshard Brooks, we shouldn't have tasers.

00:58:20.000 And now this general idea, no chokeholds.

00:58:22.000 Well, France just reversed that.

00:58:24.000 I don't know if you've been following this.

00:58:25.000 They just reversed their ban on chokeholds.

00:58:26.000 No, I'm not really up on the French news, but you can fill me in.

00:58:30.000 Well, have you ever, you're out there in the military, have you ever had any French people there, French allies out there?

00:58:35.000 I never, I never, we do work with the French sometimes, I never work with the French.

00:58:38.000 Yeah, I didn't know if they come with a, I'm French Canadian, I didn't know if they come with a standard issue white flag.

00:58:44.000 But Canadians did go, obviously, into Afghanistan and a lot of places.

00:58:48.000 Some great soldiers come out of Canada, just not nearly as many of them as you have in the United States.

00:58:52.000 But the French just reversed it.

00:58:54.000 They just reversed a ban on chokeholds.

00:58:55.000 It was banned, and they reversed it because the French police argued that the ban put their lives at risk.

00:59:01.000 And there is some evidence coming out now that it actually resulted in more lethal forms of force.

00:59:06.000 So I think sometimes when people say, ban chokeholds, do you think they really know what they're asking for?

00:59:13.000 They 100% don't know what they're asking for.

00:59:15.000 Banning choke holds is a horrible idea.

00:59:19.000 When you think about what you need to do to make someone comply, and you can't use a choke hold.

00:59:24.000 Choke hold is the absolute best way to get someone to comply. 0.99

00:59:28.000 It's safe 99.9% of the time. 0.95

00:59:30.000 You and I, being Jiu Jitsu players, we've choked Thousands of people and been choked thousands of times and I've never been hurt from a chokehold I've never hurt someone from a chokehold ever thousands and thousands and thousands of repetitions and Here's the deal if I want to subdue you and I'm not allowed to choke you guess what I have to do I have to hit you I have to hit you in the head and I have to hit you in the head usually with an object and this is if I'm not shooting you right so I pull out my baton and I start hitting you in the head I have seen individuals take

01:00:03.000 More, you know, four, five, eight shots to the head with batons or with weapon strikes and be perfectly fine and keep fun. 0.97

01:00:11.000 Maybe not be perfectly fine, but they keep fighting.

01:00:13.000 They keep fighting and finally you have to beat someone.

01:00:16.000 Until they stop.

01:00:17.000 I think Rodney King is a great example of that.

01:00:19.000 Rodney King, a chokehold, would have been, would have been, there would have been no video, there would have been no riots, nothing.

01:00:24.000 Somebody would have known what to do there, they would have gone and put Rodney King to sleep, cuffed him, put him in the back of the car, you'd have been fine. 0.89

01:00:30.000 Instead, the only thing those cops knew how to do was hit him in the head.

01:00:33.000 Well, hitting someone in the head, just like when you watch a boxing match, how often does someone in a boxing match actually get knocked out?

01:00:38.000 Right.

01:00:39.000 It doesn't happen that often.

01:00:40.000 Yeah.

01:00:41.000 Why?

01:00:41.000 Because it's hard to knock someone out.

01:00:43.000 Right.

01:00:43.000 How often when you get a choke on someone, they're going to sleep.

01:00:46.000 That's all there is to it.

01:00:47.000 And the great thing is, once you let go of the choke, they wake back up.

01:00:51.000 They're perfectly fine.

01:00:52.000 There's no brain trauma.

01:00:54.000 They're not marked up.

01:00:55.000 It's the best way to subdue someone.

01:00:58.000 And to take that skill set away from the cops is a big mistake.

01:01:02.000 Well, here's kind of an extreme example to make a point.

01:01:05.000 Anyone out there, okay?

01:01:05.000 Let's say you have to fight.

01:01:08.000 You have to fight until it's finished with Mike Tyson.

01:01:10.000 Okay, anyone else out there?

01:01:12.000 How do you think that ends up?

01:01:13.000 Now, you have to fight until a finish with Jocko Willink.

01:01:17.000 Jocko Willink can end that fight without anyone ever so much as having a scratch.

01:01:22.000 Because of the tools that you go to.

01:01:24.000 A lot of people don't understand that.

01:01:26.000 They don't understand the limit of tools.

01:01:28.000 That's why we see so much damage in boxing, too, and it's because of the training where you're limited in your tools and you're hitting the head non-stop.

01:01:35.000 And I think a lot of people don't... I mean, you just had Nancy Pelosi say that police chokeholds are a moderate... She said it was a lynching.

01:01:40.000 Those were the words that she used.

01:01:41.000 A lynching.

01:01:43.000 How worrisome is that when you have elected officials go out who people believe are authoritative on the subject, basically accusing our police of using arguably, I'll leave some room here, arguably one of the most peaceful ways to end a physical altercation with a hate crime?

01:02:00.000 Well, luckily she's not, doesn't sound like she's trying to stir anything up with that comparison.

01:02:04.000 Yeah, right.

01:02:07.000 Trying to make anyone mad about that. 0.96

01:02:08.000 Yeah, that's just, that's just, it's just ridiculous. 0.98

01:02:10.000 That's completely ridiculous.

01:02:12.000 Um, you know, if, if someone, if my, one of my kids or, or if me, if I was going to get arrested, I want to get arrested by people that know jujitsu because they're going to come in, they're gonna be able to do it with the minimum force required. 0.87

01:02:24.000 If that's what you want police officers to do.

01:02:27.000 And, and again, if you don't train people and you just have people learn to choke hold and that's it.

01:02:32.000 You know, then you're not really, you're still not doing them justice.

01:02:35.000 It's, we need to do a, you know, full systemic change in the way we're training our police officers. 0.67

01:02:40.000 Police, being a police officer is a freaking hard job.

01:02:43.000 Yeah. 0.64

01:02:44.000 Every single day. 0.83

01:02:45.000 And you don't know if you're gonna have, you don't know if the person you're pulling over is a mom that's with kids in the back going to soccer, or if that's a person with a pistol, or that's going to assault you and try and kill you.

01:02:55.000 You don't know.

01:02:56.000 And that's what you live with every single day.

01:02:57.000 So for us not to put them in those situations with the right

01:03:00.000 tool to handle every one of those different situations is completely, it's completely wrong for America to do that to

01:03:08.000 our police officers right now.

01:03:09.000 And as people see in France, it ends up, it potentially could

01:03:12.000 end up harming far more people.

01:03:13.000 Just like a professor at Harvard, just this just came out yesterday

01:03:16.000 where he said, you know, defunding the police would result, it

01:03:19.000 would result in thousands of more black lives being lost because

01:03:22.000 because of police not protecting. 0.86

01:03:24.000 other black citizens who often need it the most.

01:03:26.000 So when we go to the WebEx Center, I'd like to talk a little bit more about specifically

01:03:29.000 kind of chokeholds and our experiences with those.

01:03:31.000 But let me ask you this.

01:03:33.000 In general, with this subject, the law and order at large and the riots and protests in

01:03:39.000 every major city, by the way, every major city have turned into riots.

01:03:42.000 Some small ones in smaller towns or suburbs have been peaceful.

01:03:47.000 Where do you think, this is what I will say, I've never, looking at Chaz, I've never in

01:03:50.000 my lifetime ever been one of those people who's feared a potential, some kind of incarnation

01:03:56.000 of a civil war.

01:03:58.000 But when I look at a place like Chaz, and as a military officer I'd be curious as to your point of view, and people take over an American city, they're shaking down business owners, you have to present ID to come or leave in what's supposedly a free country, and they're protecting it with guns. 0.83

01:04:11.000 I go, gosh, I'm not saying I would like, but I wouldn't be surprised if the citizens who live there and business owners try and take back their rights with guns.

01:04:20.000 And I've never been afraid of that in my country, of that escalating.

01:04:24.000 What do you think of where we are at large here and how it compares to like actual wars that you've been in?

01:04:30.000 I think the major thing that you're lacking is any level of commitment from the people in there.

01:04:35.000 You know?

01:04:35.000 Look.

01:04:37.000 You're not a big fan of Raz, the Warlord?

01:04:39.000 Razzmatazz, man!

01:04:40.000 It seems like kind of a cool, like, hey, you know, you want to tell that story over, you know, in a couple months, be like, oh yeah, I was in Chaz, and what was it called?

01:04:49.000 Chaz? 0.96

01:04:49.000 Chop now, now it's Chop, yeah. 0.96

01:04:51.000 I was in CHOP, I was in CHOP, yeah.

01:04:53.000 But when there's, it's like if we were gonna actually go in there and take them and fight them

01:04:58.000 and like the police force showed up ready to do battle, like those people would be like,

01:05:03.000 yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good, we're good, okay.

01:05:05.000 Yep.

01:05:06.000 Just little riot things over, we're good, we're ready to go home.

01:05:08.000 There's no commitment in there.

01:05:09.000 It's, you know, it'll be over.

01:05:12.000 Do you think so?

01:05:13.000 Yes.

01:05:15.000 I hope so.

01:05:16.000 I hope so, but I do worry when you have citizens who have effectively, you know, mayors and governors who haven't done anything.

01:05:22.000 Do you have business owners or people who live there who didn't vote for this and they can't get to and from their houses or run their own businesses right now?

01:05:27.000 That's got to be hell for those people.

01:05:29.000 And it only takes one person to react, which, at this point, my point is, I don't think it's irrational for someone to react in a severe way who's living in this sort of occupied area right now.

01:05:41.000 And there are many of them.

01:05:42.000 And I guess my point is, when those people react, the people that are in Chaz, they'll just be like, oh yeah, sorry.

01:05:51.000 Like, I mean, if they did that in my neighborhood, This thing wouldn't have happened.

01:05:55.000 What do you mean?

01:05:57.000 Can you explain that?

01:05:58.000 Well, you're not going to block off my house where I live, my property, and tell me I can't go in there.

01:06:03.000 Or come to my house and think you're going to extort money from me.

01:06:05.000 That's not happening.

01:06:06.000 Why not?

01:06:07.000 What does Jekyll Willink do?

01:06:10.000 You're not going to do that.

01:06:12.000 I'm going to walk outside.

01:06:16.000 Are you a lawyer right now?

01:06:18.000 I think I can guess.

01:06:20.000 Talk it over.

01:06:21.000 Some non-pina colada.

01:06:22.000 What's it called?

01:06:24.000 Pineapple... No, just... So I think there's some people... And you know what?

01:06:29.000 Hey, you want to show up here?

01:06:30.000 You're going to act tough?

01:06:31.000 Okay, cool.

01:06:31.000 We got it.

01:06:32.000 We understand.

01:06:34.000 Oh, wait a second.

01:06:34.000 Now you're actually going to try and take something from my business?

01:06:38.000 No, that's not happening.

01:06:39.000 That's not happening.

01:06:40.000 And I think when people realize that that's not happening, What members of Antifa are ready to really try and bring it?

01:06:50.000 Where's the numbers?

01:06:51.000 They're not trying to bring it.

01:06:52.000 You want to put on a football, a lacrosse helmet, and comment like, you know, Yeah, I think you're right, until it becomes a mob of people and those individuals become afraid of speaking out.

01:07:02.000 and we'll have some fun.

01:07:03.000 That's fine.

01:07:04.000 Right.

01:07:04.000 If you're trying to, like, infringe on my property and try and come and harm my family,

01:07:08.000 they're not ready to make those kind of commitments.

01:07:10.000 Yeah.

01:07:11.000 I think you're right until it becomes a mob of people and those individuals become afraid of speaking out.

01:07:17.000 And I hope that's not what's happening, but I'm afraid that it might be happening down there

01:07:21.000 with some people when they're outnumbered.

01:07:23.000 All right, listen.

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01:09:24.000 not worth Crowder shop.com All right, it's getting toward months not really the end of

01:09:38.000 the week. It's just tomorrow and then we have to do all the

01:09:39.000 updates and everything.

01:09:41.000 A couple of things, the extended interview, this week we didn't do it with Jocko because he had an appointment.

01:09:45.000 Yeah.

01:09:45.000 So we did have to pre-take the interview, as you know, and then, so there's one week we don't, but then we are going to talk about our first Chokeout stories, and of course to reiterate, the lady who modeled Aunt Jemima, if you want a fact check.

01:09:57.000 It's just we couldn't not do the Aunt Jemima stuff, it's just too fun.

01:10:00.000 It's too fun.

01:10:01.000 It's too fun to think that it's actually one's biological.

01:10:05.000 Like the 23 in me says, I don't know, Aunt Jemima?

01:10:08.000 She may have been an aunt.

01:10:09.000 She could have been an aunt.

01:10:10.000 Yeah.

01:10:11.000 Who knows?

01:10:12.000 I mean, everyone has brothers and sisters.

01:10:15.000 Particularly, I'm sure, people who call each other brothers and sisters.

01:10:17.000 It's true. 0.98

01:10:18.000 The only people who do that are black people and those at the convent. 0.98

01:10:22.000 So, Audio Wade, explain to people who don't, you know, by the way, everyone who hasn't ever been choked, everyone who's ever done jiu-jitsu, judo, grappling, has been choked many, many times. 0.80

01:10:31.000 But usually people don't when it's the first time.

01:10:33.000 You were a real trooper.

01:10:34.000 You went out there on your shield.

01:10:35.000 What was it like?

01:10:36.000 Totally fine.

01:10:37.000 Yeah, not even really uncomfortable.

01:10:39.000 Yeah, just like waking up and you have a little dream.

01:10:44.000 It's like a little dream that I wasn't being arrested.

01:10:48.000 Well, it's important to dream.

01:10:52.000 And if you were a perp, would you rather have that or a taser?

01:10:56.000 That.

01:10:56.000 Yeah, I think you would rather do that.

01:10:58.000 I would too.

01:10:58.000 When I have ever actually had been submitted to anything in competition, I'm like, oh, I just hope it's a joke.

01:11:03.000 Sure.

01:11:03.000 Sometimes you walk up and you see this crazy guy who's really strong, like, oh, I just don't want him to get a hold of my arm or my knee.

01:11:08.000 You're like, oh, OK, good, it's a joke.

01:11:09.000 Then I just take a quick nap, and I'm good.

01:11:12.000 Even if he's mad at me, I know I'll be fine.

01:11:14.000 Matter of fact, in MMA, it's pretty common. 1.00

01:11:17.000 I think the Diaz brothers are like, hey, if you tap to a chunk, you're a bitch. 1.00

01:11:20.000 That's what they say. 1.00

01:11:21.000 It's kind of like, fight as long as you can.

01:11:23.000 And I think it's silly if you're checkmated.

01:11:25.000 But you don't keep going if it's your arm, because people get their arms snapped or their knees snapped.

01:11:29.000 But no one who's sane would be willing to go through that pain.

01:11:33.000 So what you're saying is I'm like the Diaz brothers.

01:11:35.000 You are like the Diaz brothers.

01:11:35.000 It's hard, man.

01:11:36.000 What is it?

01:11:38.000 303?

01:11:38.000 What is their area code?

01:11:40.000 Stockton?

01:11:40.000 Someone tell me the Stockton area code.

01:11:43.000 I'm pretty sure they don't live there now.

01:11:45.000 They have floors.

01:11:48.000 We have big shows next week.

01:11:48.000 Big Mug Club, big Change of Mind, and then a special announcement for a Thursday livestream.

01:11:53.000 And of course, just so you know, we will be doing shows through the week of the 4th of July, and then it's our summer break until the first week of August.

01:12:02.000 And that's just because we have a lot of stuff to do here behind the scenes.

01:12:05.000 We do that for like two or three weeks at Christmas, and two or three weeks in the summer so that we can update everything, and some holes in the roof.

01:12:13.000 I do have to get going.

01:12:13.000 Let me tell you, we were planning at one point an event in DC.

01:12:16.000 We can let the cat out of the bag because we're not doing it now.

01:12:18.000 Because everyone on this team was convinced there was no way for us to do it and me not get shot.

01:12:23.000 And the idea was to do a segment there of kneeling for prayer and standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.

01:12:30.000 For it to not be a political event.

01:12:32.000 Because I don't believe that any of our solutions right now in this country...

01:12:36.000 And I haven't said this before, man, like, when people used to say, oh, Obama's ruined the country, I'd say, well, you know, listen, you get the next one, and you fight where you can, and this is a bad law, but we have a system of checks and balances.

01:12:47.000 This is the first time that I've feared some kind of, like, legitimate civil uprising or civil war, because I think civil wars don't really look like—civil wars don't exactly look like people think they look.

01:12:57.000 If it's your neighborhood and people are taking it over like Chaz or Chop, but I'm going to keep calling it Chaz because I want them to face the legal liability of declaring it an autonomous zone. 0.68

01:13:03.000 That's the name, Chaz.

01:13:04.000 Chaz! 1.00

01:13:05.000 Right?

01:13:05.000 If it's your neighborhood and you're going home, or like my wife right now who has some health issues and I need to be helping her, and you walk home and there are some Antifa guys with masks trying to shake you down to go into your house and you can't go in your house because they're taking this over, and you're like, oh, okay, let me get my wallet, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, click, open the door, reload, bang, bang, bang, bang.

01:13:20.000 That's the end of it.

01:13:21.000 No one's stopping me from getting into my house to protect my wife.

01:13:24.000 Does that make someone an extremist?

01:13:26.000 I'm not talking about going out hunting people, of course not.

01:13:29.000 But is it really so outlandish to think that when people are being controlled by unelected mobs, in entire blocks, with guns, that they end up taking back their rights as American citizens with guns?

01:13:42.000 Well, they shouldn't move.

01:13:44.000 No one has a right to force someone to move.

01:13:46.000 At gunpoint.

01:13:48.000 And so we didn't do the event in DC.

01:13:49.000 I'll tell you why.

01:13:50.000 I think that obviously we can't find our solutions through identifying through one's race. 0.94

01:13:56.000 As a Christian, the only way we can solve our issues here is to stop looking at the color of one's skin, to stop looking at things that are superficial, and to start looking to God.

01:14:03.000 And I think we do need to pray together.

01:14:04.000 And I think it's really important, though, At this point for Christians to step up and instead of trying to... Where's the church? 0.55

01:14:12.000 Where is the church?

01:14:13.000 You have pastors right now who won't even host service in their own congregations while billions of dollars in damage have been caused in cities.

01:14:23.000 It was 25 million in the first week in Minneapolis, right?

01:14:26.000 Does anyone have a total yet?

01:14:28.000 What has been done across the country?

01:14:29.000 You don't think Minneapolis Probably a little smaller than New York, times it by 8,000, somewhere in the billion range.

01:14:39.000 And the churches are doing Zooms?

01:14:43.000 It's unreal to me!

01:14:45.000 No one mentions if the virus uptick, you know, and the death count hasn't gone up with it, so obviously some testing comes into account there.

01:14:51.000 No one mentions?

01:14:52.000 We blame congregations for choir practice?

01:14:55.000 But not people screaming at other folks to kneel?

01:14:58.000 And here's the thing, a lot of people are trying to accuse folks of being racist for not kneeling.

01:15:03.000 Figuratively, I want our leaders, Republicans included, to stop kneeling.

01:15:07.000 And literally, no American should kneel to another man.

01:15:12.000 None.

01:15:13.000 It's not a symbol of unity.

01:15:14.000 It's a symbol of cowardice.

01:15:16.000 You do not kneel. 0.99

01:15:18.000 If you're a black man, you never kneel to another black man or a white man. 0.98

01:15:22.000 If you're a white person, you don't kneel to... I have to list all the colors, otherwise people will say I'm singing with red, white, yellow, taupe... Your guess is as good as mine with the Dolezals and Boltons and Michael Jacksons. 0.97

01:15:37.000 I don't know.

01:15:37.000 Include all the colors of the rainbow and even ones that people will technically try and hang me on because they're not colors, they're shades.

01:15:42.000 You don't bow to any human being.

01:15:45.000 But we've lost sight of that because we have lost sight of what we are as a country.

01:15:49.000 People say, oh, we had slavery.

01:15:50.000 Well, you know what?

01:15:51.000 Yeah, we did have slavery.

01:15:52.000 And we fought a really bloody war to end slavery.

01:15:55.000 We had hundreds of thousands of slaves in the United States.

01:15:57.000 There are still six million slaves in Africa.

01:15:59.000 There are still many, many millions of slaves in the Middle East.

01:16:01.000 You know who else had slaves, by the way?

01:16:06.000 Muhammad.

01:16:07.000 Now, I know you'll say, oh, that was a different time, just like in the United States.

01:16:10.000 Do they still have slaves in the Middle East today?

01:16:13.000 Nary a slave to be found in Qatar.

01:16:16.000 Clock boy with your Phillips in a suitcase. 0.79

01:16:18.000 Tell me about the slave trade over there.

01:16:21.000 So we did end slavery.

01:16:23.000 And the reason we ended slavery was because we thought, we knew that it was irreconcilable with the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, with the idea that all men are created equal.

01:16:32.000 From the very beginning, if you look at the writings of George Washington and Jefferson, they all had a problem with it.

01:16:36.000 It was changing a process, stopping a train that was in motion, a locomotive from a very, very long time before it.

01:16:44.000 And we got there.

01:16:45.000 And it's terrible that we did it.

01:16:48.000 Understood?

01:16:50.000 But that's also why we don't kneel.

01:16:52.000 The reason we ended slavery is for the same reason that you don't kneel today.

01:16:57.000 Because no Christian is to kneel to anyone. 0.99

01:17:01.000 Ever.

01:17:02.000 Matter of fact, I know some people, they go, oh, in the Bible, you can read instances in the Bible, every instance you read where someone kneels to anyone other than God, including angels.

01:17:09.000 And they go, oh, what are you doing?

01:17:11.000 I should have said, don't, no, don't, no, don't kneel to me, the big guy's gonna see.

01:17:15.000 Don't kneel to me.

01:17:17.000 That's throughout the entire Bible.

01:17:20.000 And we stand at the Pledge of Allegiance.

01:17:22.000 Why?

01:17:22.000 We stand to honor the flag of the country, the only country in human history that was founded on the promise that we would never have to kneel to a man again.

01:17:33.000 And it took us a while to make sure that happened with everybody.

01:17:38.000 To end the slave trade, but the idea of kneeling before a human being is deeply anti-Christian, just as it is deeply anti-American.

01:17:47.000 And for someone to try and re-appropriate something, could you imagine if we just said, well now I'm going to bend down and face Mecca five times a day, and I'm going to do it because I would like socialized healthcare.

01:17:59.000 You can't just change something that symbolic and what it means because you have a grievance, no matter how legitimate it is.

01:18:09.000 Americans should not kneel.

01:18:12.000 I don't respect a man who kneels to men, literally or figuratively. 0.97

01:18:19.000 And it bothers me when you have Christians going, you know, we're going to kneel because it shows a sign of unity. 0.99

01:18:23.000 That's not what it does, man.

01:18:24.000 It shows a sign of subservience.

01:18:26.000 And it shows a sign of subservience when you do with Black Lives Matter. 0.99

01:18:28.000 You can see these videos right now entirely based on your race.

01:18:35.000 That's as close to modern slavery in America as you get. 0.80

01:18:38.000 Listen, listen, you're white. 0.97

01:18:40.000 Kneel.

01:18:42.000 Well, why? 0.87

01:18:42.000 Because white. 0.87

01:18:44.000 Because white privilege. 0.82

01:18:45.000 You're demanding that someone kneel to you in subservience as though you are a god because of their race?

01:18:54.000 At the same time where we might sacrifice a man at the altar of political correctness?

01:19:01.000 With Officer Rolfe!

01:19:02.000 That's what that is! 0.97

01:19:04.000 That's not a man who deserves to die, he's facing the death penalty! 0.96

01:19:06.000 We have gotten so far off the beam in this country, I couldn't care less if someone wants to throw out a false accusation of kneeling, just like this, being a sign of white supremacy. 0.95

01:19:18.000 Don't tell the Home Alone 2 DVD box set!

01:19:21.000 And so we're at the point where, you know, I don't necessarily agree with what I do agree that this country needs healing, and the only way to heal is obviously through God and through our Christian principles, but I also think that there's a time where a shepherd needs to protect their flock.

01:19:34.000 And Chas is a great example, and this officer is a great example.

01:19:37.000 We can save lives now, and we can liberate people.

01:19:40.000 And that's the promise of this country, and it's being infringed upon, and it is unbelievable to me that those in leadership, Republican and Democrat, aren't protecting the very rights upon which this country was founded.

01:19:50.000 I'm trying to see what we have for next week.

01:19:56.000 I've changed my mind.

01:19:56.000 I don't know.

01:20:06.000 I don't care.

01:20:06.000 You know what?

01:20:08.000 Kneel if you want.

01:20:09.000 Stand if you want, I guess.

01:20:10.000 That's the point.

01:20:11.000 You have the right to do it.

01:20:14.000 You have the right to do whatever it is that you wanted.

01:20:15.000 If you want to kneel out of guilt, fine.

01:20:20.000 Demanding that another man kneel is not just offensive as an American, because I don't want 0.89

01:20:29.000 to be like Gerald in Murder, it's not just offensive to the American sensibilities. And

01:20:36.000 by the way, if you're an edgy atheist in the comment section, that's totally fine.

01:20:39.000 You enjoy the unalienable birth rights as protected by government, given by God.

01:20:46.000 That's something a lot of people miss, too, right?

01:20:48.000 The same reason that we don't kneel is because we recognize in this country that our rights are given to the only person to whom we kneel, which is God.

01:20:55.000 The government doesn't grant rights.

01:20:57.000 And that's something that's really pretty, people think is benign.

01:20:59.000 In Germany, just recently, they destroyed, they made internet a human right. 0.58

01:21:02.000 Ooh, well that sounds nice.

01:21:03.000 I like internet. 0.99

01:21:04.000 Sprint sucks. 0.99

01:21:05.000 Got it. 0.99

01:21:06.000 But, what happens if a, what happens if the government is the one who tells you, ah, internet is a right?

01:21:13.000 We're just granting rights?

01:21:14.000 I guess we can take it away.

01:21:17.000 And you see that with sheriffs or mayors across this country.

01:21:22.000 We're going to take away their right to defend themselves.

01:21:24.000 You can just take away?

01:21:25.000 You can just give and take away rights?

01:21:27.000 I'm not telling you that you can't ever kneel.

01:21:30.000 Let's be clear about that.

01:21:31.000 What I am telling you is that you should never be called to kneel before any other man because of what the Constitution promises.

01:21:39.000 Black, white, red, yellow.

01:21:41.000 And that doesn't exist in other countries.

01:21:44.000 It doesn't exist!

01:21:46.000 In the continent of Africa, where you still have enslavement based on race, by the way, between tribes, where it still exists in the Middle East, where it still exists in Asia, based on where you're from. 0.66

01:21:55.000 Slavery is still a thing and people do kneel and it's not a symbol of unity.

01:22:02.000 It's because they're forced to.

01:22:05.000 If you kneel, Put on some shackles while you're at it. 0.95

01:22:09.000 And if you're a leader who kneels, don't expect the vote of myself, and I can't speak for everyone here, but I'm pretty sure that you can expect to forego the vote of anyone here at Louder With Crowder.

Louder with Crowder - June 18, 2020

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