Louder with Crowder - June 22, 2020


CHAZ in Chaos: A Weekend of Violence! | Good Morning #MugClub


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On this week's episode of No Cops: Topo Chico, a Mexican-American immigrant from the Bronx, joins the show to talk about what it's like to be a black cop in New York City. Plus, the removal of Confederate statues and the Macy's attack on Black Lives Matter activists.

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00:00:00.000 Outro music.
00:00:14.000 I should do.
00:00:15.000 It's pounded in my brain often enough.
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00:00:21.000 Oh, come on. 0.87
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00:00:36.000 If I tell my mom and she tells your mom Would you shut up 1.00
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00:00:54.000 It's subject for today It's Topo Chico, which is very refreshing. 0.99
00:01:34.000 And they're kind of sponsored.
00:01:35.000 It gets a little bubbly.
00:01:36.000 But there's a part of me that doesn't trust anything that comes from Mexico. 1.00
00:01:39.000 Hey, you said it, I didn't say it.
00:01:41.000 Not people! 0.81
00:01:42.000 But I agree with it.
00:01:43.000 Commodity... He said things, not people.
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00:01:59.000 Speaking of which, my half-Asian lawyer Bill Richman is here.
00:02:01.000 Gerald A. is here.
00:02:02.000 Court of Black audio Wade is here.
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00:02:15.000 Every day that we do Good Morning Mug Club, a full hour of additional show.
00:02:19.000 But first let me ask you a question.
00:02:21.000 How long do you think Chaz, sorry, Chop, It's a little confusing at this point. 0.99
00:02:26.000 It's confusing because they're walking human vaginas. 1.00
00:02:30.000 In the sense that they're just like Chaz and people are like, oh, autonomous zone? 0.99
00:02:33.000 That means we have the right to send the military.
00:02:34.000 Occupational protest!
00:02:35.000 Occupied protest!
00:02:36.000 What are you talking about?
00:02:38.000 You can't get me, I'm on base.
00:02:41.000 It was like those when Cubans would come and they had the touchdown rule and I used to watch real TV 1.00
00:02:44.000 Yeah, there's a Cuban who came over, you know like I think like on a lounge chair floated over and then
00:02:49.000 uh The cop and he thinks like he can deke him out like he
00:02:51.000 stiff arms him and touches it and he's like And they just tackle him
00:02:55.000 Like I thought I defect like we don't care. Wow It's really like running to them. They're like i'm behind
00:03:01.000 the barrier and the cops are just like tank right over there
00:03:03.000 Look, this isn't tiananmen square bill Come on. 0.97
00:03:07.000 That was the reference.
00:03:09.000 Yeah, that was the reference.
00:03:11.000 He can make it, but now you're racing.
00:03:14.000 I've all of a sudden stepped in it.
00:03:15.000 Correction, not just now.
00:03:17.000 By the way, where do you think this ends with the statues being torn down?
00:03:20.000 We'll talk about that quite a bit.
00:03:21.000 Where do you line up on the Confederate statues that were being taken down?
00:03:24.000 Do you think that people who didn't defend those statues sort of paved the way for George Washington and Jefferson coming down now, which was predicted but mocked?
00:03:33.000 Let us know.
00:03:33.000 And of course, live chat is available exclusively at Blaze.
00:03:36.000 We'll be reading some of your chat later.
00:03:38.000 But first, we actually have another update, a preview for tonight's newest installment, Reformatted Cops.
00:03:46.000 Tonight on No Cops!
00:03:48.000 Stay tuned for more No Cops!
00:04:09.000 It seems we need to change the theme song.
00:04:11.000 They don't come for you!
00:04:14.000 Either way, I'm excited.
00:04:15.000 I'm excited about the update.
00:04:16.000 No, no, no.
00:04:17.000 The they just means someone else.
00:04:18.000 It means the criminals.
00:04:20.000 What you want?
00:04:20.000 What you want when your social worker don't come for you?
00:04:25.000 Yeah, this is a bad song now.
00:04:27.000 Yeah.
00:04:27.000 I think it was a bad song.
00:04:28.000 Yeah, I'm the one who ruined it.
00:04:32.000 By the way, we'll also, a little bit later, we'll be showing this for people who are Mug Club members, how to defend yourself against a Macy's attack, because this happened.
00:04:43.000 People trying to get deals.
00:04:47.000 That's the n-word we have to bleep.
00:04:49.000 Quit touching me!
00:04:51.000 You don't hurt!
00:04:53.000 In the clearance section too.
00:04:55.000 People trying to get deals.
00:04:57.000 And that was a Macy's rack!
00:04:59.000 Yeah, it's too bad.
00:05:01.000 Man, that's too impossible.
00:05:03.000 This was justified and you had Black Lives Matter activists and what's his name, Tariqa Nasheed
00:05:07.000 Tariq Nasheed, that guy, and this race warrior he was out there.
00:05:11.000 They claimed that the man used the N-word, and that justified the attack, which of course it wouldn't, and he never said it.
00:05:16.000 It turned out he's a store employee, and they looked for all his security footage.
00:05:18.000 It was completely unprovoked. 0.99
00:05:19.000 We'll talk more about that so that you don't have to get your ass kicked, and the defense shouldn't just be naughty word. 0.99
00:05:27.000 What else do we have? 0.99
00:05:27.000 Do we want to talk about Chaz? 0.99
00:05:28.000 I don't know that anybody does, but yes.
00:05:30.000 Yes, I really do.
00:05:32.000 Are they going to change the name again next week?
00:05:38.000 Do we start making the statues now or do we wait?
00:05:39.000 I don't know if it's going to last that much past next week.
00:05:42.000 They had a second shooting last night.
00:05:46.000 So now it's been two.
00:05:47.000 Two in a row.
00:05:48.000 Two shootings.
00:05:50.000 Though they haven't confirmed the second shooting.
00:05:52.000 But let's just mainly focus on the first shooting.
00:05:56.000 How many bodies do you think are buried there in jazz?
00:05:59.000 Seven to eleven.
00:06:00.000 Maybe twelve.
00:06:01.000 I'm inclined to agree.
00:06:03.000 I mean, there's nothing that you could do.
00:06:05.000 They could just literally put that in the middle of jazz.
00:06:08.000 They could pull a Walter White and just do it with a bucket of acid.
00:06:12.000 Just put it in a recycling bin.
00:06:13.000 No, but they'd put down cardboard and try to bury the body on top of it.
00:06:16.000 They'd put a tent over it and be like, here's where you bring the person you killed.
00:06:19.000 They obviously died of natural causes.
00:06:20.000 Sir, this one has a knife in his back.
00:06:22.000 Well, natural causes, though.
00:06:24.000 No, no, COVID.
00:06:25.000 It's just all COVID.
00:06:28.000 So there was a shooting though Saturday at 2 30 a.m.
00:06:30.000 and this is this is important because we'll touch on this a little bit more and we have a lot of info on Chaz coming up.
00:06:37.000 Foreshadow!
00:06:39.000 Color me, Steinbeck!
00:06:43.000 Literary niche genre of humor.
00:06:47.000 And of course, the cops and the ambulance, by the way, the medics, because they called in the medics when two people were shot.
00:06:52.000 One was killed and one was critically injured.
00:06:53.000 They called in the medics and then accused the medics of being racist because the medics couldn't get through.
00:07:00.000 I think we have a video from Raz Simone tweeted this out.
00:07:04.000 That's not That's So Raz.
00:07:06.000 That's So Raz!
00:07:07.000 Coming up on Nickelodeon.
00:07:08.000 It was all a ploy for That's So Raz.
00:07:11.000 Here's the tweet from Razz Simone.
00:07:14.000 Razzmatazz, roll! 0.96
00:07:16.000 That's what we're doing?
00:07:17.000 You guys could be saving this man's life right now.
00:07:21.000 But instead of doing that, you're gonna wait here.
00:07:24.000 You guys are that afraid?
00:07:25.000 There's no way.
00:07:28.000 There's no way.
00:07:30.000 This is in your hearts!
00:07:31.000 If he dies this time, you guys, you could have saved his life!
00:07:34.000 You could have!
00:07:36.000 You guys could have. 1.00
00:07:37.000 This is bullshit. 1.00
00:07:38.000 And you know it, sir. 1.00
00:07:39.000 What if that was your son up there right now?
00:07:42.000 Would you want this to happen to your son?
00:07:45.000 Oh man, this is amazing.
00:07:47.000 This is what's happening in America right now.
00:07:50.000 They're waiting to save this man's life.
00:07:53.000 They're waiting to save this man's life.
00:07:55.000 He's dying bleeding.
00:07:56.000 If this was your son, you would bust through that crowd right now.
00:07:59.000 But you're not. 0.98
00:08:01.000 Because it's a black life. 0.99
00:08:03.000 Ah, because it's a black life. 1.00
00:08:06.000 Before we move on, because you just mentioned, what's the name of the bar rescue guy?
00:08:08.000 It's not John Tesh, I know, but what is it?
00:08:11.000 Does someone know that name confined at Bar Rescue?
00:08:14.000 You're ruining your bar! 0.98
00:08:17.000 Come in here, filth! 1.00
00:08:20.000 You don't even have a draft! 0.70
00:08:22.000 That's where you make all the profits!
00:08:25.000 What's his name, John what?
00:08:26.000 I work with the Grateful Dead.
00:08:27.000 John what?
00:08:28.000 John Taffer.
00:08:30.000 I'm John Taffer.
00:08:31.000 Bar Rescue.
00:08:32.000 This bar is going down unless I come in and do my magic.
00:08:37.000 I want to see him do jazz.
00:08:38.000 I want to see him rescue jazz.
00:08:40.000 You're pooping all over the place. 0.73
00:08:41.000 You're scaring the customers.
00:08:44.000 No one wants to eat in your literal filth. 0.99
00:08:46.000 That's your feces next to the bar draft. 1.00
00:08:50.000 Who wants to go with a gay bar covered in poop? 1.00
00:08:56.000 What next on Bar Rescue? 1.00
00:08:57.000 Now you're going to try and rape me? 1.00
00:08:59.000 No! 1.00
00:08:59.000 No! 1.00
00:09:00.000 I don't know if that sounds enough.
00:09:02.000 What's his name?
00:09:04.000 John Taffer?
00:09:04.000 I love that guy.
00:09:05.000 What's his name, John Taffer? Taffer? I love that guy. It's close. Okay. It's close? Yeah. No! It's spot on!
00:09:14.000 Bye!
00:09:18.000 Do you need more cowbell as well?
00:09:19.000 I've been doing this for 15 years!
00:09:24.000 I still can't get my iPad to work!
00:09:26.000 I guess I'll go to the papers.
00:09:28.000 So well-meaning.
00:09:29.000 So here's the thing they were saying, because it's a black life.
00:09:31.000 First off, the ambulance, the medics couldn't know that it's a black life.
00:09:34.000 But there's also a reason, by the way, that you don't block cops from getting in, because the cops have to clear the way, legally of course, for the medics, the ambulance.
00:09:42.000 And this is what was going on at the barricades at Chaz.
00:09:47.000 Hey chief, hey chief, or whoever's on down there, the victim is left!
00:09:53.000 The police have entered the zone.
00:09:56.000 The police have entered the zone.
00:09:58.000 The weapons are out.
00:10:00.000 You got people here.
00:10:01.000 They formed a human chain to try to stop traffic.
00:10:05.000 They formed a human wall.
00:10:05.000 traffic. Individuals over here, through this, they've formed a human wall. The purpose of this human wall that we
00:10:15.000 see right here is to build a barrier in between the, in the, in the wall.
00:10:20.000 That's what the word wall means.
00:10:22.000 Well, here's the thing.
00:10:23.000 If you want the medic to get through, your human wall is a human speed bump.
00:10:26.000 So take your pick.
00:10:27.000 It's like, we built a human wall?
00:10:30.000 No!
00:10:34.000 You gotta save the bar!
00:10:35.000 Honestly, people don't understand.
00:10:37.000 It happened, I believe, in Minneapolis.
00:10:38.000 We talked about it.
00:10:39.000 There was a woman and a child in a building on fire, and they could see the fire department a few blocks away.
00:10:44.000 The cops were clearing away for the fire department, and then the cop cars were completely blocked.
00:10:51.000 So this is one of those things where you can say people are violent extremists, but let me ask you this as a genuine question.
00:10:55.000 This is where we could see some kind of a fight back and some kind of a civil war from people who aren't militiamen.
00:11:02.000 If you're a father and you know, and this actually happened, that your wife, the mother of your children, your child are in a house that is burning down and you can see the fire department and you can't get them out of the house and you see people blocking the cops so the fire department can't get through.
00:11:17.000 Is that man a mad, is he a lone mad gunman if he starts taking people out to try and save his wife and child?
00:11:22.000 I'm not saying that I advocate that, but I'm saying you are pushing people to extremes at this point where they will take extreme measures.
00:11:28.000 This does not end well, and that is the rule.
00:11:32.000 Medics, paramedics, ambulances, particularly in areas where there's violence, it has to be cleared by the police.
00:11:38.000 Otherwise, you have any idea how easy it would be to be like, oh, I've been shot!
00:11:41.000 And then they come in like, morphine! 1.00
00:11:42.000 Thanks, bitch! 1.00
00:11:43.000 I got fentanyl to last me two months! 0.99
00:11:45.000 Exactly, and by the way, every time that vehicles with flashing lights approach these peaceful protests, they tend not to do well.
00:11:51.000 They tend to get set on fire, they tend to get turned over, their windows get busted out.
00:11:56.000 We've seen video of this from everywhere.
00:11:57.000 Why would you want these guys to put their lives at risk when every time they do, you hate them and you try to do stuff to them? 0.96
00:12:04.000 Maybe kill them, hurt them, destroy their property, whatever.
00:12:06.000 Right, that's why I advocate that we should put a charged electric current on all vehicles with flashing lights so it's like a human fly sound. 0.99
00:12:14.000 It's a great idea.
00:12:16.000 Please do go through.
00:12:18.000 Please kindly enter the zone.
00:12:19.000 It shouldn't have to get that far!
00:12:24.000 You know what the guy said at the very end?
00:12:26.000 He goes, if it was your kid in there, you would bust through that barrier.
00:12:30.000 Basically, he just said, take your vehicle and run over those people that are blocking the road, that we thought was a good idea! 1.00
00:12:35.000 Well, when you look at AOC, people say, it's never okay for police, it's never okay for police to run over protesters.
00:12:41.000 In the case of that one area in New York, they actually, I thought it was brilliant, they used the, what do you call those, like metal barriers, that are, like a metal barrier, the protesters were in front, so he got specifically behind the metal barrier and went, vroom!
00:12:52.000 And the metal barrier went flying, so they all went perfectly perpendicular to the ground, backward, like they had been hadoukened, and went back, and the cop went through.
00:13:00.000 Like, there's never an excuse for this.
00:13:02.000 What if the medics are trying to come in behind them to save lives?
00:13:06.000 What if that person, by the way, we don't know, what if the medics had gotten to him sooner, and he didn't have to die?
00:13:11.000 That's you, blocking the cops.
00:13:13.000 And I explain for people who don't know, there's clear precedent there, that's what they have to The issue becomes, for example, if you were to say, well, oh, I'm blocked on the highway and I'm not going to move out of the way of emergency vehicles.
00:13:24.000 Everyone is taught from a young age you need to clear the way for emergency vehicles.
00:13:28.000 And it really does.
00:13:28.000 It pushes people to the edge to say, especially when you can see that, right, okay, the fire truck's not there, it's too far away, the ambulance isn't even there yet, whatever, they're dealing with protesters in other parts of the city, okay.
00:13:40.000 But to be able to see it And then, even if you just had the dad run down there and start pushing people out of the way in the example that you gave, in any of those examples, you're asking for a time in which you're having to pit one life against the other, and all they're doing is protecting their, you know, little garden.
00:13:55.000 That's it.
00:13:55.000 And you know what?
00:13:56.000 I think people really misconstrue when I say, you forfeit your right to live. 1.00
00:14:01.000 There's a difference between that and you deserve to die.
00:14:03.000 In other words, you punch someone in the face on a sidewalk where they can bounce their head off the concrete, you hold a knife to someone where it's their life or yours, you put them in a situation where there's a reasonable assumption that they could be killed, you forfeit your right to live in that that person is justified in taking measures to protect their own life, and you could be the victim of an accident. 0.99
00:14:21.000 You could just as easily kill him, not bounce his head off the concrete, and he could just as easily bounce your head off the concrete. 0.85
00:14:27.000 You could just as easily reach in and shoot that medic, which happens, or they could just as easily accidentally run you over. 1.00
00:14:32.000 What's with the chatter, boys?
00:14:34.000 Is it not going out? 0.98
00:14:36.000 Is it all black? 0.96
00:14:36.000 No, we're all good. 0.96
00:14:37.000 We're just putting CNN on the TV.
00:14:39.000 No, please!
00:14:40.000 I said I was sorry!
00:14:42.000 They have breakfast burritos over there.
00:14:46.000 By the way, I thought we only got a certain number.
00:14:48.000 No!
00:14:48.000 We're gonna pare down the menu!
00:14:49.000 What are you doing with burritos at an Irish pub?!
00:14:53.000 This is not the Northern... You're not the IRA!
00:14:58.000 I didn't know they were known for their burritos, but hey, we'll go with it.
00:15:02.000 By the way, I thought Chaz was free. 0.95
00:15:04.000 No, actually, this is an IRA bar.
00:15:06.000 That's what we do.
00:15:07.000 Well, where are the bombs?
00:15:10.000 Just eat the burrito.
00:15:11.000 You'll find the bombs.
00:15:12.000 I was going to say, I thought they were independent.
00:15:16.000 I thought they wanted to have their freedom and their independence and that they were able to set up.
00:15:19.000 They said they had medics.
00:15:20.000 In the story, when you read it, they're like, oh, our medics were on scene and doing a fantastic job.
00:15:25.000 Other than not knowing what the hell they were doing and being high out of their minds at the time, they were doing great.
00:15:28.000 Well, they had some heal professionals.
00:15:31.000 Oh.
00:15:31.000 Just put weed in there, it heals everything!
00:15:33.000 Does someone have an ace bandage?
00:15:36.000 Uh, we can like string together a bunch of rolling papers.
00:15:40.000 Roll the next one, lick it, next one. 0.86
00:15:44.000 I've never seen such sloppy medical work! 0.88
00:15:47.000 20 minutes later and the guy's still there licking it.
00:15:49.000 Do you still need it?
00:15:50.000 My tongue's dry!
00:15:51.000 What do you expect?
00:15:53.000 Um, alright.
00:15:54.000 Let's move on to CNN.
00:15:55.000 Let's see what CNN is going on because there's Walking Basset Hound there who looks really... ...into a damaging future if Trump were re-elected.
00:16:02.000 You've served in the military, intelligence government for 50 years.
00:16:06.000 How are you... I don't even care.
00:16:08.000 They're talking about Bolton.
00:16:09.000 Please, somebody send Bolton over to fight a war.
00:16:11.000 Let's just see how he does.
00:16:12.000 There we go.
00:16:14.000 By the way, we need the Walkin' Buys a Bar. 0.95
00:16:15.000 That's the show that you're doing right now.
00:16:18.000 What?
00:16:18.000 Christopher Walkin' Buys a Bar.
00:16:19.000 Who's walkin'?
00:16:20.000 That voice has a little bit of walkin' in it.
00:16:22.000 No, it doesn't!
00:16:23.000 It does!
00:16:23.000 There's a couple of things.
00:16:24.000 Is he on drugs?
00:16:25.000 No!
00:16:25.000 Did he come back from Chaz?
00:16:27.000 No.
00:16:27.000 I put some drugs in his burrito.
00:16:29.000 You can't just say things that are totally unrelated.
00:16:30.000 I'm not an international reporter, Steven.
00:16:32.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:16:33.000 Could have fooled me.
00:16:34.000 They will be stunned to find out you are not amongst them.
00:16:41.000 I'm removing your name from the Pulitzer running.
00:16:42.000 So there have been some statues torn down, removed across the United States.
00:16:47.000 Now obviously this started with a lot of Confederate statues, monuments, and I will say this,
00:16:52.000 back then I was like, listen, conservatives who are choosing that as the hill to die on
00:16:55.000 in the sense that this is absolutely something we want to identify with.
00:16:59.000 The Confederates were people who tried to basically undercut the United States.
00:17:01.000 Let's be clear, they lost.
00:17:02.000 They didn't want the America that you have.
00:17:03.000 But I don't think that you should be taking down all of these statues and monuments.
00:17:07.000 I think if a municipality wants to vote and say, hey, we want to change that statue through the legal process, who am I to stop that district from doing that?
00:17:15.000 But there needs to be a vote, and it needs to come from the public.
00:17:17.000 And I think you probably get half and half depending where you are.
00:17:20.000 You cannot erase all history because it's somewhat offensive.
00:17:24.000 And I understand many people say, well, the Confederacy fought for slavery.
00:17:27.000 And I do.
00:17:28.000 I understand it's slavery bad.
00:17:29.000 I want to be really clear.
00:17:30.000 But we often ask, and so did Donald Trump, well, where does it end?
00:17:33.000 If anyone is being judged by today's standards and they're imperfect, you could end up taking
00:17:38.000 down – they want to take down Lincoln. 0.80
00:17:40.000 You could go Washington.
00:17:40.000 Of course, that was roundly mocked as the logical fallacy, a slippery slope argument, by many in the media, including John Oliver.
00:17:48.000 The President's concern seems to be that tearing down statues leads to a slippery slope.
00:17:52.000 This week it's Robert E. Lee.
00:17:54.000 I notice that Stonewall Jackson's coming down.
00:17:57.000 I wonder, is it George Washington next week and is it Thomas Jefferson the week after?
00:18:01.000 You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?
00:18:05.000 Okay, well, I'll tell you where it stops.
00:18:07.000 Somewhere.
00:18:08.000 Anytime someone asks, where does it stop? 0.89
00:18:10.000 The answer is always, f***ing somewhere! 0.98
00:18:13.000 You might let your kid have Twizzlers, but not inject black tar heroin. 0.97
00:18:18.000 You don't just go, well, after the Twizzlers, where does it stop?
00:18:22.000 Right, but here's the point. 1.00
00:18:27.000 You ever seen like, you know, like all those funny videos, like, look at my kid, which is really just like, Hey, my kid, isn't he such an idiot? 1.00
00:18:33.000 Right. 0.99
00:18:34.000 That's what's really cute.
00:18:35.000 It's like what a kid does that we find cute.
00:18:37.000 If it were an adult, you'd be like, yeah, okay.
00:18:40.000 Send him to a special school.
00:18:42.000 See if we could work this out of them.
00:18:44.000 But the thing is, this is what John Oliver does, and this is what people on the left often do, but John Oliver is the worst.
00:18:48.000 And that's when we try and create, or at least propose, constructive solutions.
00:18:52.000 Like I just mentioned, if municipalities want to do that, John Oliver never does it.
00:18:55.000 He goes, well, it stops somewhere!
00:18:57.000 And he never gives you that somewhere.
00:18:59.000 Right, exactly.
00:19:00.000 So, in other words, if you're going to stop a slippery slope argument, and by the way, just because it's a common argument doesn't mean it's a logical fallacy.
00:19:06.000 We talked about that with making, okay, if gender is now cultural, and sex is biological, but then you can be born into the wrong sex, and you include sort of, well, I'm attracted to men, therefore I'm same sex, but sex is biological, and you go, well, hold on a second, this is all going to deconstruct, and now we see that.
00:19:21.000 The Supreme Court ruled that sex is how you feel.
00:19:24.000 Not just gender, but biological sex.
00:19:27.000 So now we're at the point where gender and sex are one and the same, right? 0.72
00:19:29.000 So there's a valid argument sometimes with the slippery slope.
00:19:33.000 The counter-argument has to be, hey, this is where it stops, but you have to draw your line.
00:19:38.000 And what he's doing is just applying their logic to a different situation, right?
00:19:42.000 So if you're taking down Robert E. Lee because he was a Southerner who owned slaves, then you have to take down Jefferson because he was a Southerner who owned slaves.
00:19:47.000 So take the same logic, apply it to a different person.
00:19:50.000 That's essentially the argument.
00:19:51.000 And yeah, and they might have argued, well, he wasn't fighting for slavery.
00:19:55.000 But here's the thing, it doesn't matter because now they want to take down Abraham Lincoln.
00:19:58.000 But here I think we actually have, yeah, we have a clip of what Christopher Columbus, Thomas Jefferson, George... So here it is, John Oliver!
00:20:04.000 It's been the target of vandals for years and today it's gone.
00:20:08.000 Mayor Duggan ordering the statue of Christopher Columbus be removed from its perch at Jefferson and Randolph and put into storage.
00:20:15.000 We've got brand new video here but coming down today.
00:20:20.000 A Fox 12 viewer sent us this video of the statue of the nation's third president as it was pulled down.
00:20:26.000 While Thomas Jefferson wrote, all men are created equal, he also owned as many as 600 slaves during his lifetime and fathered slave children.
00:20:35.000 And he used to be over there.
00:20:37.000 in northeast Portland. This was near Northeast at 57th and Sandy Boulevard
00:20:43.000 about 11 last night. Police tell us that statue was also vandalized and the group
00:20:49.000 ran off once officers got to the scene. Okay so not only is that a gross
00:20:53.000 misrepresentation of Jefferson and Washington on slavery where they were
00:20:56.000 vile that I'll get to a couple quotes in a second but again let's show you that
00:20:58.000 that doesn't even act as the end point for them right?
00:21:02.000 You had people who fought for the Confederacy, people who fought for slavery.
00:21:06.000 They said, well, we're going to take this down.
00:21:07.000 That's it.
00:21:07.000 People said, I don't think that's it.
00:21:08.000 You want to remove all history.
00:21:10.000 Then we were mocked.
00:21:10.000 We said, well, is it going to be George Washington?
00:21:12.000 Is it going to be Jefferson, who, by the way, many of them procured slaves from African slave traders, if you look at a lot of the Founding Fathers, because that's where the slave trade started, and the Middle East.
00:21:18.000 We'll get to that in a second.
00:21:19.000 People said, no, no, no, because that's a different... Well, now they want to get rid of that.
00:21:22.000 But then it continues to places that people don't even make sense They're going to remove the Teddy Roosevelt statue from the Museum of Natural History!
00:21:30.000 Because reasons.
00:21:32.000 That guy wasn't a slave owner!
00:21:34.000 I don't think so.
00:21:35.000 They said it actually portrayed the people next to him, a Native American and a black person, as subservient.
00:21:40.000 Now they vandalize the statue of John Greenleaf Whittier!
00:21:45.000 A Quaker abolitionist! 0.99
00:21:47.000 So let's go through this really clearly.
00:21:49.000 Teddy Roosevelt.
00:21:50.000 History's tough.
00:21:50.000 And we'll go back to Washington.
00:21:51.000 Teddy Roosevelt, there are some speeches here that you can actually read.
00:21:55.000 But the attitude of the North toward the Negro is far from what it should be, and there is need that the North also should act in good faith upon the principle of giving to each man what is justly due him, of treating him on his worth as a man, granting him no special favors, but denying him no proper opportunity for labor and the reward of labor.
00:22:12.000 And this comes from, I believe, National Geographic.
00:22:15.000 In his argument for racial equality, Roosevelt used the rising tide raises all ships metaphor, stating that if morality and thrift among the colored men can be raised, then those same virtues among whites, already assumed at that point to be more advanced, not meaning as humans, but advanced economically, would rise to an even higher degree.
00:22:31.000 At the same time, he warned that the debasement of blacks will in the end carry with it the debasement of whites. 0.96
00:22:36.000 This was something Roosevelt spoke out against racism and talked about That's how everyone needed to be provided.
00:22:40.000 Equal opportunity, equal rights.
00:22:41.000 And you could even argue that there he uses the word Negroes, therefore it was racist.
00:22:45.000 Right, you could definitely make that point.
00:22:47.000 We need to treat the Negroes as well as...
00:22:52.000 You have to stop. 0.63
00:22:53.000 One of my problems with this is that most of the time people just don't know what the hell they're doing.
00:22:56.000 Even if it's somebody who happened to own slaves, I guarantee you most of the people there had no clue.
00:23:01.000 Somebody just pointed and said, that's a white guy who was bad, he's part of the patriarchy, probably owned slaves, whatever.
00:23:06.000 It's a bronze white man, pull it down! 0.96
00:23:09.000 Well, that's an oxymoron, a bronze white man. 0.75
00:23:11.000 Unless you're talking about Boehner.
00:23:13.000 I'm just trying to get into the lines.
00:23:15.000 Look, as a person of color, I would like us to stop. 0.91
00:23:18.000 Let's draw the line.
00:23:20.000 Call you Armstrong, because you make the stretch.
00:23:23.000 Actor, we remove all British comedians who are colonizing our country with their racism.
00:23:32.000 I believe that's a good point.
00:23:33.000 Can we evict Hannah Gatsby?
00:23:38.000 Look, my mom is from Hong Kong, alright?
00:23:41.000 She suffered through colonialism under the British, under the John Olivers of her time.
00:23:45.000 And here he is telling me, telling my family what to do.
00:23:49.000 I think somewhere is on the other side of him being removed.
00:23:53.000 That's not a bad idea.
00:23:55.000 I do hope he gets cancelled.
00:23:57.000 No, I don't.
00:23:57.000 I want him to be there.
00:23:58.000 No, we don't.
00:23:58.000 And that's what's funny about that.
00:24:01.000 Not once are we ever saying, cancel him.
00:24:03.000 Right.
00:24:03.000 But his own argument logically leads to him being cancelled.
00:24:07.000 Right.
00:24:07.000 Yeah, I was just watching The Politician, the new season, and I can't really watch it because Bette Midler is just... You know there's a gay director there who's just like, just let her go with it.
00:24:15.000 And Bette Midler is doing her hocus pocus. 0.74
00:24:16.000 It's like a John Lithgow.
00:24:21.000 He's so over the top.
00:24:23.000 But everything in there is like, you sit and you go, this is so comical from the left, the environmentalism and the LGBTQAIP. 0.99
00:24:29.000 You think that maybe it's written by someone who's a libertarian with balance, and then you realize that can't be the case.
00:24:34.000 When they actually are canceling, in this series, a man running for office because as a six-year-old he dressed as Geronimo, you think, oh this must be a joke.
00:24:42.000 But he actually gives a speech like, I should have known better and I didn't and I apologize.
00:24:45.000 I'm going, this is an industry That cancels people because they've actually gone out and said, hey, you know what?
00:24:51.000 We should all come together as one nation.
00:24:53.000 So you realize there can be no balance in this industry.
00:24:56.000 And this is what's happening right now because people believe this about Washington and Jefferson.
00:24:59.000 I want to get some quotes here from Washington and Jefferson who reviled slavery.
00:25:02.000 But here's something else.
00:25:03.000 We're talking about being consistent.
00:25:04.000 And this isn't a whataboutism.
00:25:05.000 Let me explain to you why.
00:25:08.000 Guess who else had slaves? 0.91
00:25:10.000 Notable person in history.
00:25:11.000 Who?
00:25:13.000 Personal opinion. 0.99
00:25:15.000 What's a real jackass? 0.98
00:25:16.000 Also Childright. 0.99
00:25:18.000 I'm getting it, I'm getting it.
00:25:20.000 I think I might know where you're going.
00:25:21.000 Martha Stewart.
00:25:24.000 Rachel Ray.
00:25:26.000 Rachel Maddow.
00:25:29.000 Muhammad! 1.00
00:25:29.000 Stop playing dumb! 1.00
00:25:35.000 You know he owned slaves! 1.00
00:25:36.000 Muhammad was a slave owner. 0.99
00:25:38.000 And I know you'll say, well Han's saying, yeah, but that was a different time.
00:25:40.000 Well, same with Jefferson and Washington.
00:25:41.000 But Washington freed his slaves upon his death, which was really as soon as he could.
00:25:44.000 And also his wife wore the pants, and she was kind of pro-slavery, so that kind of complicates matters.
00:25:47.000 But!
00:25:48.000 That's an awkward entertainment.
00:25:49.000 Muhammad did have slaves, and here's the question. 0.92
00:25:52.000 Okay, they both had slaves at a different point in time.
00:25:54.000 Is there slavery in the United States today?
00:25:57.000 Is there slavery in the Middle East?
00:25:59.000 Is there slavery in Saudi Arabia?
00:26:00.000 What about where Clock Boy hides his Philips alarm clock in a Samsonite?
00:26:04.000 There's indentured servitude that there is still slavery all across the Middle East and Asia and Africa, not in the United States.
00:26:12.000 So what do we do with any... Well, you can't have physical portrayals of Muhammad, but even... Tear down Islam. 1.00
00:26:18.000 Tear down Islam. 1.00
00:26:19.000 I guess Mecca? 0.97
00:26:20.000 Cancel Islam? 0.99
00:26:21.000 When you think about Mecca, when you think about what it symbolizes, this is a guy who could have had the opportunity to speak out or free his slaves, all of them upon his death.
00:26:28.000 Didn't do it like Washington.
00:26:29.000 That's a monument to the slave trade.
00:26:31.000 That still continues.
00:26:33.000 Yeah, you gotta go to the Dome of the Rock, I guess, because that's where he, you know, ascended.
00:26:36.000 Go there and tear it down! 0.63
00:26:37.000 Geez, if you really are... Oh my god, I don't think they should, I'm just saying!
00:26:40.000 We don't advocate that!
00:26:41.000 We don't advocate that!
00:26:42.000 But I would love for someone to put up a statue of Muhammad on their own private property, just to see what happens.
00:26:48.000 Kind of like the Lenin statue that's still available.
00:26:50.000 Does this button turn his mic on? 0.99
00:26:53.000 We obviously don't advocate for that, it's a stupid... What am I even here for if not to save us from terrible... 0.98
00:27:01.000 That's the only reason you're here sometimes. 0.99
00:27:02.000 I don't think Gerald is a primary threat after that statement.
00:27:05.000 That's true.
00:27:06.000 There's a quick quote, I don't know if you've got the Orwell quote, because it was just an interesting thing.
00:27:11.000 It talks about statues, it talks about history, it talks about books.
00:27:13.000 It was from the book 1984.
00:27:14.000 They'll bring it up in just a second, but it was put out there right.
00:27:17.000 So it's like every record has been destroyed or falsified.
00:27:20.000 Every book has been rewritten, every picture repainted, every statue and street building.
00:27:23.000 Unfortunately, he was a socialist.
00:27:25.000 has been altered and the process is continuing day by day, minute by minute, history has
00:27:28.000 stopped, nothing exists except the endless present in which the party is always right.
00:27:33.000 That's not the world that I want to live in.
00:27:34.000 And I understand, like you said, if there are things that you want to vote for, take
00:27:37.000 down.
00:27:38.000 Unfortunately he was a socialist, but yes.
00:27:39.000 I understand that, but his point is very valid.
00:27:40.000 I don't care where he came from.
00:27:42.000 No, no, no.
00:27:43.000 The point is he made a lot of great points, but he didn't connect all the dots.
00:27:45.000 I agree.
00:27:47.000 Well, I'm not endorsing him.
00:27:49.000 I'm endorsing that specific statement that says, hey, you can't just rewrite stuff.
00:27:52.000 If you don't like it, use it as a teaching moment and say, hey, this guy did a great thing.
00:27:56.000 George Washington did something that no person in history has ever done.
00:27:59.000 Have complete power and then give it up.
00:28:01.000 He gave it back to the people.
00:28:03.000 He also did some bad stuff, so let's talk about that too.
00:28:05.000 What used to be those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
00:28:07.000 Now it's those who do not tear down and erase all history from the books that might be slightly offensive by today's standards are cancelled.
00:28:15.000 And beaten, typically.
00:28:16.000 Confucius say, you know what I'm talking about.
00:28:18.000 So here's some quotes from Washington and Jefferson, because Washington specifically freed his slaves upon his death.
00:28:22.000 And when people say, oh, Jefferson had slaved children, we can get into that, and we'll get into that with David Barton later on.
00:28:27.000 Concerning the path Washington desired to see the states choose, he emphatically declared, this is from Washington, I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery.
00:28:39.000 But there is only one proper and effectual mode by which it can be accomplished, Jefferson's efforts to end slavery were written about before the American Revolution.
00:28:46.000 and support will go shall never be wanting."
00:28:48.000 And then Jefferson's efforts to end slavery were written about before the American Revolution.
00:28:56.000 He wrote, in 1769, I became a member of the legislature by the choice of the county in
00:29:00.000 which I live in Virginia.
00:29:02.000 and so continued until it was closed by the revolution. I made one effort in that body for
00:29:06.000 the permission of the emancipation of slaves which was rejected and indeed during the regal crown
00:29:11.000 government nothing like this could expect success." So these are you know what it would be like it
00:29:16.000 would be like right now looking back at let's say there was some actual gross violation actually
00:29:19.000 occurring at the hands of the government and Black Lives Matter protesting it but not getting anything
00:29:26.000 And then 100 years from now, them being cancelled.
00:29:28.000 Because they're like, well, you didn't change it.
00:29:29.000 But you can see Washington and Jefferson actively tried to use their power and positions in government to change it.
00:29:35.000 And then someone like Washington, through the legal process he had available, freed his slaves immediately upon his death.
00:29:42.000 This is something that kind of matters, as opposed to Muhammad, who kept them till the day he died, and is symbolized by Mecca.
00:29:48.000 All right, so let me know what you want to say.
00:29:50.000 I was going to say, Jefferson also said that all men are created equal.
00:29:52.000 It's one of the greatest statements in history that we have from a leader, and you're tearing him down even after he did that?
00:29:59.000 Even after he went down that path?
00:30:01.000 Look, Gerald, it doesn't make any sense what you're saying.
00:30:05.000 What you're saying is that the entirety of the movement is based on Honoring equality in a constitution that was written by white men. 0.63
00:30:15.000 Equality is racist.
00:30:17.000 Yes.
00:30:17.000 That's a conclusion.
00:30:18.000 That's a very good conclusion.
00:30:19.000 Tear it all down.
00:30:19.000 I think that's a good note to end on.
00:30:21.000 Let me know if you agree with Gerald or with Bill.
00:30:24.000 Both regarding slavery and Mecca.
00:30:26.000 Gerald!
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