Louder with Crowder - EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: ALEX JONES BREAKS SILENCE ON YE INTERVIEW! | Louder with Crowder

00:00:01.000 Look, I'm glad to be with you.

00:00:02.000 I will keep this short and sweet.

00:00:04.000 I wasn't here yesterday.

00:00:05.000 Dave's not here today because he's sick.

00:00:07.000 We wish him a quick recovery.

00:00:08.000 Alex Jones is on the show, so you know what that means.

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00:00:43.000 On with the show Bible stories.

00:00:45.000 Hey Christ.

00:00:56.000 What you doing?

00:00:59.000 I'm fasting, Bernie.

00:01:00.000 You know, if you were to endorse me for leader of the free world, everyone could be fasting all the time.

00:01:05.000 It's true.

00:01:06.000 Believe me, I know.

00:01:07.000 Jesus, I'd like you to think about joining me.

00:01:11.000 We can spread matching uniforms and crippling taxes across the world.

00:01:16.000 You mean stealing?

00:01:17.000 Democratic.

00:01:18.000 Stealing.

00:01:19.000 No, Democratic Socialism!

00:01:19.000 So stealing.

00:01:23.000 I'm gonna go back to fasting.

00:01:23.000 I'm okay.

00:01:25.000 I wanna give you free healthcare!

00:01:29.000 Free healthcare?

00:01:30.000 Yes!

00:01:30.000 Really?

00:01:31.000 Except you'd have to pay for it.

00:01:34.000 I'm not interested in any way, shape, or form.

00:01:36.000 Perhaps I could interest you in an assortment of dreidels!

00:01:43.000 Dreidels! 0.62

00:01:45.000 Look, I've had enough. 0.98

00:01:48.000 You're quite the persnickety Jew, I see. 1.00

00:01:48.000 I don't want any of your stuff. 1.00

00:01:52.000 Do you like free speech?

00:01:55.000 Very much so.

00:01:55.000 It's great.

00:01:56.000 We're fresh out!

00:01:58.000 But we do have some of these!

00:02:04.000 I can do this all day!

00:02:06.000 I'm okay.

00:02:07.000 Wait!

00:02:07.000 Ah!

00:02:08.000 Wait!

00:02:11.000 Endless possibilities!

00:02:14.000 Can't I make you do this song, doodah?

00:02:17.000 Doodah! 1.00

00:02:18.000 What about free healthcare?

00:02:20.000 I'm gonna...

00:02:21.000 Oh, oh, and Jesus!

00:02:24.000 Yeah?

00:02:24.000 One more thing!

00:02:26.000 If you're truly God's son, and I'm not saying you are not, then jump down from this mountain!

00:02:35.000 Surely the angels will owe my living!

00:02:38.000 No! No, no, no, no!

00:02:45.000 Do the strange animal, that's what I know Do the strange animal, I can't get far

00:03:11.000 I'm the spirit I'm the spirit

00:03:19.000 Mmm, that's delicious.

00:03:24.000 Glad to be back in this chair.

00:03:25.000 And the chair is actually higher, because Dave was in the chair.

00:03:28.000 I need a little bit lower.

00:03:28.000 Well, yes.

00:03:31.000 I need to go... Wait, where's the... Left side.

00:03:32.000 There you go.

00:03:33.000 That's too low.

00:03:34.000 That's too low.

00:03:35.000 This is Dave Height.

00:03:37.000 This is Gerald Height.

00:03:41.000 So look, you've got over, under, and through.

00:03:41.000 Split the difference.

00:03:46.000 There we go.

00:03:46.000 Oh, oh.

00:03:48.000 I just, the seam on my pants just, uh... Uh-oh.

00:03:52.000 I'm going to be speaking in my voice.

00:03:54.000 Women, you don't understand what this is. 1.00

00:03:56.000 We'll be talking about women. 0.84

00:03:57.000 We'll be talking about men.

00:03:58.000 We have Alex Jones on the show.

00:03:59.000 So, of course, go and watch Unrumble.

00:03:59.000 We may be removed.

00:04:01.000 We'll be going through the Twitter files.

00:04:03.000 And this is one of those things, since I wasn't here yesterday, we always say, if we don't hit it first, we try to hit it best, give you information that maybe some other people have missed.

00:04:09.000 But men and women, it's a dynamic that we often discuss.

00:04:14.000 And women, I know you'll often say, like, oh, it's just, you know, being hit in the nether regions as a man is the same as a woman being hit in the chest.

00:04:20.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:04:23.000 It's an organ.

00:04:24.000 And I just had an organ with my jeans.

00:04:26.000 The seam became a high-tension cable wire.

00:04:28.000 You wanna know what that feels like?

00:04:30.000 Take your kidneys, wrap them in a piano wire, and sense them!

00:04:34.000 That's too descriptive.

00:04:35.000 That's what just happened.

00:04:36.000 Uh, alright.

00:04:38.000 Mr. Dave, we wish him, obviously, a swift recovery.

00:04:40.000 So it's just me and Gerald A. today, which may work because of Alex Jones, and that can get a little hectic.

00:04:45.000 How are you?

00:04:46.000 I'm doing well.

00:04:47.000 How are you? 1.00

00:04:47.000 Other than your, you know, testicles being... Don't say that word! 1.00

00:04:50.000 That's a medical term. 0.99

00:04:52.000 It's a family show.

00:04:54.000 You're nether regions.

00:04:55.000 Yes.

00:04:56.000 Just wear looser pants.

00:04:57.000 Yes.

00:04:59.000 That's also true.

00:05:00.000 So we'll also be talking about Russia ganning, uh, ganning.

00:05:03.000 Rush Gannon was the villain in Zelda. 0.70

00:05:05.000 Russia banning, uh, Russia, not anti-gay, Russia banning what they believe to be gay and pedophile propaganda. 0.96

00:05:12.000 Okay. 0.89

00:05:13.000 So no Balenciaga face masks in Russia anytime soon. 0.97

00:05:16.000 Or gay men kissing in public. 0.97

00:05:18.000 Right. 0.80

00:05:18.000 That too. 0.80

00:05:19.000 Which, you know, of course you shouldn't ban that, but I think it's weird.

00:05:25.000 So my question of the day to you is, as we move on, we'll be talking with Alex Jones about his interview with Ye, I apologize if I deadname today.

00:05:34.000 It's going to happen.

00:05:34.000 But the question to you is, where do you rank Adolf Hitler in terms of worst dictators throughout history?

00:05:40.000 To be really clear, Hitler, not a fan.

00:05:43.000 And look, Alex Jones, you can accuse him of a lot of things.

00:05:46.000 Being an anti-Semite, Not amongst them.

00:05:49.000 If you have followed him, if you know anything about his history, that is not something that you would try and label him.

00:05:55.000 So I think that this is one of those issues where there's been a dirty bomb that's gone off and a lot of miscommunications.

00:06:00.000 And I think we always have to allow for the possibility that someone can be wrong, someone can be misled, and not necessarily be coming from a position of hate, even though what they say comes out as very hateful.

00:06:12.000 That can happen.

00:06:13.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:06:15.000 100%.

00:06:16.000 You'll say a little bit more about this when we get there, but I think for the first time in history, Alex Jones was uncomfortable in an interview.

00:06:23.000 Yes, he was.

00:06:24.000 You could see on his face, it was like the, and boom goes the dynamite.

00:06:33.000 This is a bad day.

00:06:34.000 This is really bad.

00:06:35.000 And I filed for bankruptcy today, and this is worse.

00:06:39.000 For crying out loud, him and Kanye, they lost, I guess I'm trying to think, they owe how many hundreds of millions of dollars, if you add it all up?

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 And look, and that's not right, and that's not fair, and two things can be true.

00:06:49.000 People can be wronged, and people can be misrepresented, and they can also say things with which you can disagree.

00:06:55.000 Let me just lead with this.

00:06:57.000 Here is kind of, I don't have a lot of purity tests, just to be clear.

00:07:02.000 But I will say this, when you look at some people on the right, if people try and completely eliminate you from the pool because of one opinion, in other words, I do see some people who say, oh, if you don't side with Kanye, that means that you refuse to name them, right?

00:07:16.000 Some of these people who will say that out there, some of these actual anti-Semites.

00:07:20.000 No, no, hold on a second.

00:07:22.000 Maybe there are some people out there who think that someone like Ye, I'm gonna say Kanye West, think that Kanye West has some points that they maybe agree with and maybe they disagree with and maybe there's a conversation to be had and I do think that you can't silence everyone who has an opinion as anti-semitic, I agree with that, but I do think that he was off the beam, I think he was wrong and if you have people out there who say that one opinion disqualifies you and your entire body of work, those are bad actors.

00:07:48.000 Those are bad actors.

00:07:49.000 I think that you disqualify someone if the totality of their work, for example a Mitch McConnell, or for example we'll be talking today about a David French, about a Bill Kristol, about a Jonah Goldberg, if the entirety of their work is consistently to undermine the conservative principles and the foundations of this country that they claim to espouse, that's where their opinions are an eliminating factor as far as their validity.

00:08:11.000 I have to be careful with the word eliminating!

00:08:13.000 I mean eliminating!

00:08:15.000 From the pool of opinions as far as voices that you trust.

00:08:19.000 But it should never be based on just one opinion because you are going to disagree with every single person on earth, rabidly, on at least one topic.

00:08:27.000 And that's okay.

00:08:28.000 For example, me and Alex Jones. 0.80

00:08:30.000 I don't think the frogs are being made gay.

00:08:32.000 You don't?

00:08:33.000 They could be.

00:08:34.000 I thought that's one of the things he was proven right about. 0.50

00:08:37.000 That's true.

00:08:38.000 I thought they were just born that way, so.

00:08:40.000 I don't know.

00:08:40.000 Frogs are asexual?

00:08:41.000 I have no idea.

00:08:42.000 Well, in Jurassic Park, they figured it out.

00:08:44.000 Life found a way.

00:08:45.000 Speaking of, uh, animorphs.

00:08:50.000 Here is, and I know, look, I should warn you if you have kids watching this show, there's nothing, uh, sexual.

00:08:54.000 It's just gross.

00:08:55.000 Yeah.

00:08:56.000 Here is a, uh, a TikToker who can be described as, um, trying to think of how to tactfully morbidly obese. 1.00

00:09:04.000 uh... wrote on portly

00:09:07.000 unhealthy and this is someone wants to be an example for your 0.62

00:09:10.000 children sexualizing herself and uh... 0.97

00:09:12.000 decides to self-declare that she is hot 0.74

00:09:16.000 and tell me now even and it's just a little bit

00:09:22.000 the cloud and you guys have been the same set your mouth

00:09:26.000 and i have okay

00:09:31.000 Oh.

00:09:32.000 Terrible song.

00:09:33.000 Here's what's wrong with it.

00:09:34.000 First off, I get it.

00:09:36.000 And I'm sorry, I should have warned you if you were eating.

00:09:37.000 Here's what's wrong with it.

00:09:39.000 It's not just, oh, this is a big girl.

00:09:40.000 Look, if someone is big and they're working on themselves, no one has a problem with it.

00:09:44.000 No one here has ever made fun of someone for just being big.

00:09:46.000 She says, even if it's for chasing clout.

00:09:48.000 So what is happening?

00:09:49.000 We've now taken fat pride.

00:09:51.000 And what is it?

00:09:51.000 It's just vanity.

00:09:54.000 In a dishonest way.

00:09:55.000 In other words, people used to be vain because they thought they were very, very good-looking, right?

00:09:58.000 They were desirable.

00:10:00.000 Now, it's false vanity and it's a demand that you find them attractive.

00:10:05.000 So she says, I'm doing this for clout.

00:10:07.000 Well, that's not a good thing.

00:10:09.000 I understand that people shouldn't have bad self-esteem just because they're a little bit overweight, but they certainly shouldn't be looking to find their self-esteem and self-worth, or clout, in being morbidly obese.

00:10:18.000 And then she goes on to say, and I'm hot.

00:10:22.000 Incorrect!

00:10:23.000 We are using the term clothing very loosely.

00:10:23.000 No.

00:10:25.000 gotta be better clothing for this right it seems like the clothing was

00:10:25.000 Yes, exactly.

00:10:28.000 intentionally tight in certain areas so as to accentuate the fat in other we are

00:10:33.000 using the term clothing very loosely well the clothes they were holding on

00:10:37.000 for dear life yes exactly right but she like a tarp like maybe 0.97

00:10:41.000 That might be something appropriate.

00:10:43.000 She's a very large individual.

00:10:45.000 She's using the word tummy incorrectly. 1.00

00:10:47.000 I think at that size you can no longer say tummy.

00:10:50.000 Right.

00:10:51.000 I'm just saying, look, she's the one putting it out there, and I mean literally hanging over everything else on her.

00:10:58.000 Well, the problem is this is now being thrust upon your children, of course.

00:10:58.000 That's just a weird look.

00:11:02.000 Unless you're trans, then of course the Barbie doll stereotype is completely acceptable. 1.00

00:11:07.000 Look, this is the first generation of children who very likely will live shorter, a shorter lifespan than their parents.

00:11:15.000 Diabetes is a problem that's on the rise.

00:11:17.000 You look at cardiovascular incidents, and of course we won't even get into some of the reasons, some of the confounding factors there, some of the comorbidities, but we have all kinds of cardiac problems that were not manifesting themselves at a young age.

00:11:30.000 Shorter life expectancy.

00:11:31.000 We have insulin resistance.

00:11:32.000 This is not good.

00:11:33.000 It's not healthy.

00:11:35.000 And where's the fact-checking?

00:11:36.000 Where's the fact-checking, CDC?

00:11:38.000 That actually being morbidly obese is unhealthy and leads to, and then insert problems here.

00:11:43.000 That's the issue, is these people have the eyes and ears of your children, and then your kids go to a public school where a teacher says, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just as healthy as a liver king.

00:11:52.000 And by the way, liver king is unhealthy.

00:11:54.000 Believe me, I'm saying two extreme examples.

00:11:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:11:57.000 And then when they go home and their mom is trying to feed them broccoli, they're like, but I don't need broccoli, I need to look like that.

00:12:02.000 I saw it on TikTok and it's fine.

00:12:03.000 By the way, they walk into a doctor's office, Immediately.

00:12:07.000 No, nowadays a doctor just says, no, no, no, fine.

00:12:10.000 We've covered the story, right?

00:12:11.000 Obviously there could be other things wrong, but immediately it's like, ah, I can solve all your problems.

00:12:14.000 I feel like today's work is pretty easy.

00:12:16.000 Let's just, don't be that.

00:12:18.000 Every single part of your life that could kill you will, those, those chances will go down.

00:12:18.000 Yeah.

00:12:18.000 Right.

00:12:23.000 Unless that would be great.

00:12:24.000 Unless the dame walks into the doctor's office with Gloria Aldred and he's like, you look beautiful and brave and just keep doing what you're doing. 0.86

00:12:30.000 More of that.

00:12:31.000 As you are.

00:12:31.000 Grab a lollipop on the way out.

00:12:33.000 You know what?

00:12:33.000 Grab the whole jar.

00:12:35.000 Yes.

00:12:36.000 I can tell you like those.

00:12:38.000 Alright.

00:12:39.000 Which brings us to something else here.

00:12:40.000 Is there a war on... We've talked about this before.

00:12:43.000 But James Cameron said the quiet part out loud.

00:12:46.000 He was, you know, plugging his new movie Avatar.

00:12:49.000 Is anyone looking forward to Avatar 2?

00:12:51.000 I walked out of Avatar 1 just... it's the last film I can remember leaving out of sheer boredom.

00:12:51.000 Nope.

00:12:55.000 I just walked out.

00:12:56.000 I was in Los Angeles.

00:12:57.000 I was at somewhere in... They tried to save the tree.

00:13:00.000 I was just like, I can't do this.

00:13:02.000 This is just so boring.

00:13:04.000 It looks like a video game mixed with a pride parade.

00:13:06.000 I can't.

00:13:07.000 I just can't do this anymore.

00:13:08.000 That's true.

00:13:09.000 That's fair.

00:13:09.000 So is anyone actually looking for it?

00:13:11.000 Avatar 2?

00:13:11.000 Comment below.

00:13:13.000 He was promoting Avatar The Way of Water.

00:13:19.000 He had something to say and it's been going viral and there's something here that's more subversive that I again I hope people are understanding what it is that they're hearing so he told the Hollywood Reporter a lot of things I did earlier I wouldn't do career-wise and just risks that you take as a wild testosterone poisoned young man he went on to say I always think of testosterone as a toxin that you have to slowly work out of your your system and we'll get to the good qualities of

00:13:50.000 testosterone great stuff i think the world could use some more of it yeah but of

00:13:53.000 course let's keep in mind this is a trend of what happens you saw this with jonah

00:13:56.000 goldberg right did super bad i'm not jonah goldberg jonah uh hill we'll talk about 0.98

00:13:59.000 jonah goldberg later would any asshole by another name still be as much of an 0.99

00:14:04.000 asshole so uh yes here is just a reminder of how he made his bones 0.99

00:14:11.000 before he decided to tell all young men that uh they're poison i'll be back 0.99

00:14:21.000 yes So good.

00:14:36.000 Loves you too.

00:14:37.000 Who doesn't like Terminator 2?

00:14:39.000 Nobody!

00:14:43.000 Alright, okay.

00:14:45.000 My point is, if you don't believe me, all the references are available at ladderwithcudder.com if you're not familiar with his back catalog.

00:14:45.000 We get it.

00:14:50.000 We didn't even get to aliens!

00:14:51.000 Come on! 0.61

00:14:52.000 Eh, it's okay.

00:14:52.000 That's Sigourney Weaver, it's less testosterone, but you know what, she probably has abnormally high levels.

00:14:56.000 Very defined jaw.

00:14:59.000 It's what I call the Sandra Bullock or Andy McDowell effect.

00:15:01.000 You could crack a nut.

00:15:03.000 Now!

00:15:05.000 And it has.

00:15:05.000 We'll get to testosterone.

00:15:07.000 And this is something that, again, we've talked about in general, you know, us trying to feminize men.

00:15:11.000 And I just think that there's been too much as far as the scales of gender.

00:15:17.000 and I use gender and sex interchangeably because they always were until recently with your 0.99

00:15:20.000 bullshit theories. 0.99

00:15:21.000 Um, it's been tipped too far, uh, on the side of femininity and there are a lot of good 0.99

00:15:26.000 things that men have done.

00:15:28.000 And I don't just mean everything that you're using that men have invented, but I mean there's

00:15:31.000 a lot of good to actually be found in the hormone and also some people could argue neurotransmitter

00:15:36.000 of testosterone.

00:15:37.000 But here's something before I get to that, I have always despised James Cameron just

00:15:41.000 I don't want to be a hot topic hipster here.

00:15:43.000 Before it was cool, and let me tell you the moment that I realized I never wanted to hear from him again.

00:15:48.000 This is how self-important people can be in Hollywood.

00:15:51.000 Here is James Cameron at the Avatar premiere, quoting a language he made up in a shitty movie that he wrote as though it was deep. 0.93

00:15:59.000 Watch and cringe.

00:16:01.000 The Navi say in the movie, which means, I see you.

00:16:07.000 That's enough.

00:16:09.000 I can't.

00:16:10.000 We don't need to hear any more from that guy.

00:16:11.000 like to say, coming to my cast.

00:16:14.000 Look at that grin.

00:16:22.000 I was around this movie, and I say we just get that settled right now by

00:16:26.000 running the film.

00:16:27.000 That's enough.

00:16:32.000 We don't need to hear any more from that guy.

00:16:32.000 I can't.

00:16:34.000 He quotes his own fake language.

00:16:38.000 That's the equivalent to a guy having a Japanese tattoo, not knowing what it

00:16:43.000 means, only it's his own language and he doesn't really know what it means.

00:16:47.000 Steven.

00:16:49.000 Takame.

00:16:49.000 Is that what it was?

00:16:50.000 Something like that.

00:16:50.000 Takame?

00:16:51.000 Takame?

00:16:52.000 I see you.

00:16:52.000 Yeah.

00:16:53.000 Oh, okay.

00:16:54.000 I see you.

00:16:54.000 And what does that even mean?

00:16:55.000 I see you. 1.00

00:16:55.000 These stupid terms. 1.00

00:16:56.000 I see you. 1.00

00:16:57.000 Well, yeah, unless you're blind.

00:16:59.000 Is that ableist?

00:17:00.000 I don't think so. 0.98

00:17:01.000 Guy's just an absolute douchebag and now he's going to give us advice for society and his advice is we need less testosterone. 0.97

00:17:07.000 Well let me just give you something here to chew on. 0.99

00:17:11.000 Testosterone levels have plummeted dramatically.

00:17:13.000 So from 1999 to 2016 testosterone levels for young men dropped by 25%.

00:17:20.000 Now, here's what happens is when you say toxic masculinity, right, you associate testosterone with toxicity.

00:17:25.000 He even said it's a toxic poison.

00:17:28.000 Being masculine isn't toxic.

00:17:30.000 Now, if we want to say that abusive men, men who are violent immorally, because violence is amoral, but immoral violence, men who are undisciplined, men who, you know, men who make up a huge percentage of our prisons, Sure, those are bad men.

00:17:44.000 But to say that masculinity is toxic, that's a problem. 0.93

00:17:47.000 And then you start getting into the idea of fundamentally altering hormones.

00:17:51.000 Let's get to testosterone and the kinds of things that testosterone does.

00:17:54.000 Ladies, I'm not sure if you want testosterone to be continually dropping. 0.99

00:17:58.000 Some of the benefits.

00:18:00.000 Cognition.

00:18:00.000 I know everyone thinks about strength.

00:18:02.000 Cognition.

00:18:03.000 Especially for older men.

00:18:05.000 You're talking about attention, you're talking about processing speed, executive function, you're talking about visual perception, verbal memory.

00:18:13.000 Testosterone, what else does it do?

00:18:14.000 It helps to heal injuries.

00:18:17.000 It helps with recovery.

00:18:18.000 It even helps with elderly women who have neck fractures.

00:18:21.000 has the effects on strength are are very very obvious just to be clear and by the way hit the

00:18:26.000 like button if you guys know if you guys out there uh know that testosterone is a good thing uh or

00:18:30.000 women if you like your men to have more testosterone here's the thing testosterone also by the way 0.95

00:18:35.000 it it it uh it also has behavioral benefits this is something that people don't realize

00:18:41.000 They'll say, well, testosterone can actually result in more risk-taking.

00:18:44.000 And this is true.

00:18:45.000 This is something a lot of people don't know.

00:18:47.000 When people used to say that women were smarter than men, that's not really true.

00:18:50.000 And men aren't necessarily smarter than women. 0.95

00:18:52.000 What you do see is men occupy both sides of the bell curve.

00:18:55.000 Alright, so men make up almost all of our violent offenders in prison, but at a certain point, the only geniuses left are men.

00:19:01.000 There are more women who are above the average point on the bell curve. 1.00

00:19:05.000 Their cluster is more toward the middle top.

00:19:08.000 Men occupy both extremes of that spectrum.

00:19:10.000 And that can be, yes, that can be in part due to testosterone.

00:19:14.000 So what does that tell you?

00:19:15.000 It's not the hormone in and of itself, it's how we raise young men.

00:19:19.000 If you have a father to channel All of the positive attributes that testosterone brings, guess what?

00:19:26.000 It's a net benefit.

00:19:27.000 It effectively can be a superpower.

00:19:28.000 And I use that term very loosely.

00:19:30.000 I know you guys all watch Marvel films.

00:19:31.000 I don't because I'm a grown adult.

00:19:32.000 But, for example, testosterone does encourage risk-taking.

00:19:37.000 That's why men take more risks.

00:19:38.000 That's why men knock over banks. 1.00

00:19:41.000 Or men decide to go out on their own and innovate like Apple, like computers, like the internet, like fire.

00:19:48.000 Testosterone can make men more driven.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, sure, make them more aggressive. 0.65

00:19:51.000 And that's why you can have bad men who start wars and genocide.

00:19:54.000 But that's also why you can have good men who kill those men.

00:19:58.000 Good men who fight the wars for the side of good.

00:20:01.000 Do you think that bad guys?

00:20:03.000 Do you think that people who want to watch the world burn?

00:20:06.000 Do you think they want to do without testosterone?

00:20:09.000 Do you know what the Nazis did?

00:20:10.000 Do you know the cocktail, the human cocktail they had their soldiers on? 0.76

00:20:15.000 You're talking about methamphetamine, you're talking about opiates, you're talking about

00:20:18.000 very likely steroids for a lot of them because they said we want our men as strong and as

00:20:22.000 aggressive as possible.

00:20:23.000 What you need are moral men who have those same capabilities and have it channeled.

00:20:29.000 Testosterone is incredibly important and we always, it's one of those things, we always

00:20:33.000 want the wartime, always want the wartime president during war.

00:20:36.000 Winston Churchill.

00:20:37.000 They reached all the way back and said, we need Churchill.

00:20:39.000 Two years after that they said, ah, he's not supporting socialized healthcare.

00:20:42.000 The testosterone now is a problem.

00:20:44.000 Aggressivity.

00:20:45.000 Risk-taking.

00:20:47.000 These lead us to occupy both ends of the bell curve.

00:20:51.000 Guess what?

00:20:52.000 We need to teach our young men how to channel it properly, not try and eliminate their testosterone.

00:20:56.000 Because you know what you have?

00:20:57.000 If men don't have testosterone, they live shorter lives, they live weaker lives, they live more miserable lives, they're depressed, and we have a society that can't function. 0.88

00:21:05.000 By the way, then women say, Where have all the good men gone to? 0.99

00:21:09.000 Well, take a guess.

00:21:10.000 Women don't like this either. 1.00

00:21:10.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

00:21:12.000 They end up with a bunch of beta males and they're like, is there a good man to be found out there?

00:21:15.000 Somebody who's maybe going to stick up for my honor when I'm not just going off and getting him into a fight on purpose in a bar or something like that.

00:21:22.000 Or somebody who's going to defend our home if somebody should break in in the middle of the night and threaten harm to anybody that's in that residence.

00:21:28.000 You need men to have that ability.

00:21:30.000 And I think you hit on it.

00:21:32.000 It's fathers.

00:21:33.000 Fathers are the ones that can help men understand how to bridle that power and to turn it into something that is good.

00:21:39.000 I remember the Gillette commercial that we covered maybe a year or two ago, I can't remember when it was, where boys were wrestling on the ground and they were saying, boys will be boys.

00:21:47.000 And they kind of repeated it in this long kind of thing.

00:21:49.000 And it's like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:21:50.000 We have to break that stereotype.

00:21:52.000 No, I do want them wrestling and having fun and roughhousing a little bit.

00:21:56.000 Not only with other kids, I'm not saying beat somebody up.

00:21:58.000 I'm saying with their dad as well.

00:22:00.000 That's how you learn your place.

00:22:01.000 That's how you understand the limits and the lines you can't cross with other men, right? 0.98

00:22:05.000 We have that kind of check.

00:22:07.000 Bridled strength is priceless.

00:22:09.000 You cannot, you cannot change the world from a position of weakness.

00:22:13.000 No.

00:22:14.000 It's not possible.

00:22:14.000 Good example, we've talked about it with Joe Louis.

00:22:16.000 Joe Louis could end all of our lives here.

00:22:19.000 We live by his mercy, and he is incredibly sweet.

00:22:22.000 And so we're grateful to our wonderful Lord Joe Louis that he doesn't go absolutely, you know, God forbid he develops epilepsy and watches anime at some point.

00:22:30.000 But it's different from that in a Yorkshire Terrier, because guess what?

00:22:34.000 When you have a robber in the middle, I know that Joe Louis is going to get to work.

00:22:37.000 But it's bridled strength.

00:22:39.000 And we can't give, by the way, Cameron too much flack because, keep in mind, it's a little bit tough.

00:22:43.000 There's a give and take depending on the day.

00:22:45.000 The left is sometimes saying that testosterone is a toxin for men.

00:22:50.000 It's not when injected directly into a woman, however, to unnatural levels.

00:22:55.000 And just look at what testosterone has done to Elliot Page.

00:22:58.000 So when you see what's happened there, yeah, it's just... Oh, wow.

00:23:02.000 Seems a little bit self-promotion.

00:23:05.000 There's another Aliens coming out?

00:23:07.000 Is there?

00:23:08.000 Oh God, I hope not.

00:23:08.000 I hope not.

00:23:09.000 By the way, this is a live show Monday through Thursday 10 a.m.

00:23:11.000 You can watch on Rumble.

00:23:11.000 Eastern.

00:23:12.000 You can listen to the audio podcast.

00:23:14.000 We'll be doing a Mug Club extended today with Alex Jones because I'm sure there's a lot that he has to say that we cannot discuss here on YouTube.

00:23:14.000 Mug Club.

00:23:22.000 Alright, let's move on to Russia here.

00:23:23.000 So, Russia.

00:23:25.000 We'd like to introduce a new segment, because there's a lot that goes on in Russia, not just the war with Ukraine.

00:23:32.000 There's a lot that you may not know about which sometimes it's important, sometimes it's relevant,

00:23:36.000 and sometimes it's just hilarious and foreign enough that it makes us uneasy,

00:23:40.000 which brings us to a new segment we'd like to call Russian and Bussin.

00:23:56.000 Alright. 1.00

00:23:57.000 They're a silly people. 0.98

00:23:59.000 So, on Monday, Vladimir Putin, just to be clear, not fans of Vladimir Putin. 0.99

00:24:03.000 No, no, no.

00:24:04.000 No fans.

00:24:05.000 That was mocking.

00:24:06.000 Also, by the way, not a fan of Zelensky, just to be clear.

00:24:08.000 Don't like any of them.

00:24:09.000 And I don't think we should be involved, just to be clear.

00:24:11.000 He's got an Oscar, though.

00:24:12.000 He does, yeah, for playing the piano with his dong. 0.98

00:24:14.000 So, on Monday, Vladimir Putin signed into law a new bill outlawing what they refer to as materials that promote LGBT... See, they don't go Q-A-I-P.

00:24:25.000 I'm surprised it went with a T. Me too.

00:24:27.000 They should have been like, LG, that's all you get.

00:24:31.000 The TV?

00:24:32.000 You will say, give me B and T. I say, no, you do not get your L and G, and even that is a stretch here in Russia.

00:24:39.000 So, they banned materials that promote gay, queer, whatever lifestyles.

00:24:43.000 Here you go.

00:24:44.000 For years, being gay has been extremely tough in Russia.

00:24:48.000 Now it's about to get even harder.

00:24:51.000 After Russian parliament passed what it calls the LGBT propaganda law, claiming in part it's a defense against U.S.

00:24:59.000 influence.

00:25:02.000 I cannot put it any other way.

00:25:04.000 The United States of America has become the global center of this sodomy.

00:25:09.000 Let them live there. 0.99

00:25:10.000 Do not touch us.

00:25:13.000 I mean, he's not wrong.

00:25:15.000 Don't touch us.

00:25:16.000 He's just looking at something.

00:25:17.000 Trudeau is like, don't touch!

00:25:19.000 Don't touch me! 1.00

00:25:20.000 You and your black face and gay hands. 1.00

00:25:25.000 And very short face. 1.00

00:25:26.000 The United States saw the me.

00:25:28.000 They just, boy, they stuck that landing.

00:25:30.000 It's like a nightstand.

00:25:31.000 Yeah.

00:25:31.000 There's no LGBT.

00:25:32.000 Like, the men who like to have sex with men. 0.95

00:25:34.000 How does that even? 0.99

00:25:35.000 A man cannot accommodate a man unless you do something gross. 1.00

00:25:42.000 So under the new law, individuals can be fined over $6,000 for what they refer to as LGBT propaganda, over $3,000 for demonstrations of LGBT causes, information that encourages a change of gender among teenagers.

00:25:57.000 So here's the thing, some of that seems fair.

00:26:00.000 And if we put that into effect here, we could just basically eliminate the national debt just from the fines to Disney.

00:26:08.000 True.

00:26:09.000 True story.

00:26:10.000 So, you can comment below on what you think about this, and if you can at least understand where they're coming from.

00:26:14.000 Of course I don't think that anyone should be punished just for being gay.

00:26:17.000 Of course I believe that everyone should have equal rights here in this country.

00:26:19.000 I don't believe that marriage is a fundamental human right, but I believe in civil unions, and that's always been my position.

00:26:23.000 But I certainly don't think that someone should be arrested for being gay, someone should be mistreated for being gay, someone should not enjoy the same rights as everyone else. 0.98

00:26:31.000 But I do understand them right now trying to safeguard when they look in the United

00:26:34.000 States and they see children being put on puberty blockers.

00:26:37.000 When they see hyper-sexualized issues being taught to children ages kindergarten through

00:26:41.000 third grade.

00:26:42.000 And you'll hear some people say this is a boogeyman argument.

00:26:44.000 I hear people from the left saying no, no, it's not a boogeyman argument.

00:26:47.000 It's not a what if.

00:26:48.000 It's not a slippery slope argument.

00:26:50.000 There had to be legislation proposed to stop it because of the policy of the entire DNC,

00:26:59.000 So, I understand this reaction.

00:27:01.000 Might be an overreaction from Russia, but you also have to understand, like with Brittany Griner, they don't share your values.

00:27:05.000 No. 0.63

00:27:06.000 They don't see a bunch of guys with leather chokers on floats having sex in the streets of San Francisco as something they want in Russia. 0.63

00:27:12.000 And by the way, I would say that that's our best export as a United States.

00:27:15.000 Right, exactly.

00:27:16.000 And by the way, this is a strengthening of an already what they saw as a draconian 2013 law.

00:27:20.000 They're just basically making it harder on people who do these things.

00:27:24.000 But go back to one of those quotes.

00:27:26.000 They basically said for teenagers, if you're doing a public display for teenagers, in their mind, they cannot even imagine having kids involved in any of that.

00:27:34.000 They're saying, no, this is a $3,000 something dollar fine if only they knew.

00:27:39.000 It's like, no, but they're looking at us and going, I don't want to be that hellscape over there.

00:27:43.000 But my point is, they must be missing something.

00:27:44.000 They're sitting there at their large table going like, oh, they can't do this with teenagers.

00:27:48.000 They are not old enough.

00:27:50.000 Having drag queen brunch with French toast and five-year-olds?

00:27:50.000 What's next?

00:27:54.000 Ha, ha, ha, ha.

00:27:55.000 Stop strawmanning, Boris.

00:27:57.000 Come on. 0.73

00:27:58.000 They're not that crazy.

00:27:59.000 We're talking about teenagers.

00:28:01.000 They have no idea that's happening with children in grade schools.

00:28:03.000 Yes, and then they just turn on the news and they're like, well, son of a...

00:28:07.000 This is so much worse!

00:28:09.000 We need new laws!

00:28:09.000 Alright, Boris.

00:28:11.000 We need bigger tables, too!

00:28:12.000 Quick, get Putin! 0.99

00:28:13.000 Oh, he shit himself downstairs again. 0.99

00:28:15.000 Well, we'll find the next guy. 0.98

00:28:16.000 You saw that story, too?

00:28:17.000 Yes, I did.

00:28:20.000 He fell down the stairs and soiled himself.

00:28:23.000 Whoops, whoops.

00:28:24.000 Wait, really?

00:28:25.000 Yeah, what do you mean, really? 1.00

00:28:27.000 He fell downstairs at his residence and shite his pants. 0.98

00:28:31.000 And that's the problem with only operating from might makes right. 0.99

00:28:34.000 Same thing for women. 1.00

00:28:35.000 Beauty is temporary.

00:28:38.000 Putin's never going to be as strong and powerful as he seems, especially when he trips down the stairs and poops himself.

00:28:42.000 People are like, I don't know if he's as alpha as I thought.

00:28:47.000 By the way, he's outlawed stairs in the entire country.

00:28:47.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:28:50.000 Yes, but... So it's all lifts and ramps.

00:28:52.000 Yes, and it's only slight improvement.

00:28:54.000 He now uses ramp in pieces all over floor.

00:28:59.000 By the way, in seemingly completely unrelated news, 2,500 seals were found dead on the Russian Dagestani coastline.

00:29:07.000 So federal fisheries, they said that they weren't necessarily sure about the cause, but they would be investigating.

00:29:12.000 And actually, fortunately for us, Russia Today obtained, I believe, an exclusive leaked photo.

00:29:18.000 Ah, well, that makes sense.

00:29:21.000 For people listening on audio, you can go and watch it over at Rumbler on YouTube because it makes no sense, but it involves Seagal and a leather choker and a seal.

00:29:28.000 I was wondering where Seagal went.

00:29:30.000 Yeah, he's on mission.

00:29:30.000 Yeah, that's where he is.

00:29:31.000 In the shadows.

00:29:33.000 Still has yet to- he's never lost a fight.

00:29:35.000 Never!

00:29:36.000 I've never lost a fight.

00:29:37.000 Ever.

00:29:37.000 When people come up to me, bad things happen.

00:29:41.000 Especially if they mention that my hair went from bald to grey to full black to spray paint.

00:29:48.000 I guarantee you if you check that seal's head, you'll find a bullet. 1.00

00:29:52.000 I can't be friends with anyone who believes in Steven Seagal.

00:29:55.000 Just so you know, that for me is a purity test.

00:29:57.000 If you believe in Steven Seagal as a thing, we have nothing in common.

00:30:00.000 You know who you are.

00:30:01.000 Alright, before we get to Alex Jones... Twitter!

00:30:05.000 The Twitter files.

00:30:06.000 Now Dave was in yesterday, so we wanted to make sure that we did a deep dive and we were able to get all the information possible.

00:30:12.000 Because there's a lot to kind of unpack and there will be more files coming out.

00:30:15.000 Right.

00:30:16.000 We thought some was going to come out last night, but it turns out it didn't.

00:30:18.000 I don't know why it got pushed, but Elon said something about needing a little bit more time to get it all together.

00:30:23.000 Why does he need more time?

00:30:24.000 I don't know.

00:30:24.000 I mean, he runs five companies and has nine kids, so.

00:30:27.000 That's true.

00:30:28.000 Lives in a tiny house.

00:30:28.000 He's a big fellow.

00:30:31.000 So, uh, Friday, of course, when he released the Twitter files, and the files were reported by an independent journalist, formerly of Rolling Stone, Matt Taibbi.

00:30:39.000 There was a thread on his Twitter account.

00:30:41.000 All the references are available at laduthcounter.com.

00:30:43.000 So! 0.81

00:30:44.000 Here's some of the highlights.

00:30:45.000 But there's some other interesting facets here that I think some people have maybe missed.

00:30:49.000 And I also think this has been really sort of valuable as a lightning rod to see who in the Republican Party should not be considered amongst our ranks.

00:30:56.000 Right, exactly.

00:30:57.000 So what do we have?

00:30:58.000 We have the Biden team consistently asked Twitter to censor material.

00:31:01.000 This may not be surprising, but the specificity with which it happened Is very disconcerting.

00:31:06.000 So, by 2020, requests from connected actors to delete tweets were routine.

00:31:10.000 One executive would write to another, more to review from the Biden team.

00:31:13.000 The reply would come back, handled.

00:31:15.000 Now, here's the thing.

00:31:17.000 Some of these tweets in question were from some small accounts.

00:31:20.000 You can bring this up here.

00:31:21.000 Some of these accounts that were banned, you have relatively small accounts, and they included what they claimed were sensitive pictures of Hunter Biden.

00:31:27.000 Here's something interesting.

00:31:28.000 You see the big account, you see James Woods, you see these big names, right?

00:31:31.000 But I said, well, hold on a second.

00:31:32.000 What are these small accounts that no one is talking about?

00:31:34.000 Yeah.

00:31:35.000 Two of the accounts that were targeted, they just seemed to be anti-Chinese propaganda accounts that were banned.

00:31:42.000 That nobody would really even know.

00:31:43.000 Or suspended.

00:31:44.000 Because you'll look at the James Wood thing and go, oh, okay, I'm going to focus on that, but who's this other person?

00:31:48.000 It's always the in-betweens.

00:31:49.000 It's the little stories sometimes that give you... And this is why I talk about when we do what we do, we're incredibly grateful that you have all joined and support us with Mug Club.

00:31:56.000 I don't know that it's possible for people coming up today with the way big tech sensors to create what we've created.

00:32:02.000 I don't know if there's a way for them to draft in behind us.

00:32:03.000 That's a big part of what we're working on in the new year, to try and create an ecosystem where little guys actually have an opportunity like we did have in 2009, in 2010, 2012, before the algorithms changed it.

00:32:16.000 It's what you don't see.

00:32:18.000 It's not the big celebrities.

00:32:19.000 It's the people who don't have that kind of pull.

00:32:22.000 How are they treated?

00:32:22.000 And they were removed, and stories were censored repeatedly, and that happens in the dead of night.

00:32:27.000 And that is long-term.

00:32:30.000 So much more dangerous, because you're just kind of trimming this, and you're etching that out, and then you end up framing a narrative, and no one knows.

00:32:36.000 It's the infer- you can't really prove a neg- or disprove a negative.

00:32:41.000 Because he never knew that that story existed, and there's no way to find that story.

00:32:46.000 That's what's so dangerous with all of this that I think a lot of people have maybe missed with the Twitter files.

00:32:51.000 Something else that we obviously know, they were suppressing the laptop story, of course, on the grounds of it being hacked material.

00:32:56.000 Well, they knew it was bullcrap. 0.86

00:32:57.000 Yeah. 0.89

00:32:59.000 I don't understand.

00:32:59.000 They knew it was bullcrap back then, to be clear.

00:33:01.000 So, it wasn't a misunderstanding. 0.59

00:33:04.000 It was a lie.

00:33:06.000 It was a lie with which Twitter was complicit.

00:33:10.000 They claimed they thought it was hacked, and I thought, well, did they not just watch our show where Giuliani brought the laptop on air?

00:33:16.000 No, we know, according to, and I want to go to you in a second, here's a quote former VP of Global Communications Brandon Borman wrote in an email, can we truthfully claim that this is part of the policy?

00:33:26.000 As part of our approach to addressing potentially hacked material, we are limiting visibility of related stories on Twitter while our investigation is ongoing.

00:33:33.000 Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker replied, I support the conclusion that we need more facts to assess whether the materials were hacked, meaning the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:33:43.000 At this stage, however, it is reasonable for us to assume that they may have been and that caution may be warranted.

00:33:50.000 There are some facts that indicate that the materials may have been hacked, while there are others indicating that the computer was either abandoned and or the owner consented to allow the repair shop to access it for at least some purposes.

00:34:00.000 We simply need more information.

00:34:02.000 Here's the thing.

00:34:03.000 They were saying maybe, maybe not.

00:34:05.000 That information was available.

00:34:07.000 When you look back through history, it's not, did people do?

00:34:12.000 What they could do with the information that they had at that time.

00:34:14.000 It's what other information was available at that time, and were there contrarians?

00:34:18.000 Were there opposing viewpoints saying, hey, there is information available at this time which was discounted.

00:34:23.000 For example, Anthony Fauci with AIDS saying that you could catch it because it was airborne, that a kid could catch it from his parents through a cereal box at their house. 0.98

00:34:29.000 When other people were saying, no, no, no, no, no, it's primarily gay sex in the bathhouses that you attend. 0.99

00:34:34.000 The same thing with COVID, right? 1.00

00:34:36.000 Ah, this came from a wet market.

00:34:38.000 People said, well, they did the best with the information they had at that time.

00:34:41.000 No, no, no.

00:34:41.000 Were there other people at that time saying, no, no, that doesn't seem to be the case?

00:34:44.000 When they said, hey, two million people are going to die within the next four months, according to the Imperial College of London.

00:34:48.000 This is all the information we had at this time.

00:34:50.000 No, no, no.

00:34:50.000 Were there other people at that time, who were doctors, who were scientists, saying, that is incorrect?

00:34:55.000 At this point in time, they said, we simply need more information.

00:34:58.000 They could have asked us.

00:34:59.000 We had the laptop on this show.

00:35:01.000 Hey, they could have asked Giuliani.

00:35:03.000 They could have asked the FBI.

00:35:04.000 Only the FBI raided Giuliani's apartment and took everything but the laptop.

00:35:08.000 They deliberately avoided finding the relevant information.

00:35:14.000 Because they knew that it wouldn't, of course, support their narrative, all the while censoring the story for the entire world.

00:35:21.000 This happened on all major platforms.

00:35:23.000 We need more information.

00:35:25.000 Why didn't they go get it?

00:35:26.000 They could have made two phone calls.

00:35:27.000 We did!

00:35:28.000 Yeah, well, and my problem is twofold with this, right?

00:35:31.000 And so one of them, I'm going to ask the guys in Mission Control to pull up.

00:35:34.000 Pull up when they ran the New York Times story on Donald Trump's leaked tax returns, right?

00:35:40.000 That fit right into this policy.

00:35:41.000 Like you said, is the policy applied equally?

00:35:44.000 Donald Trump had been famous for saying, I am never releasing my tax returns.

00:35:48.000 So much so that he was sued over and over and over again to get them.

00:35:51.000 And all of a sudden, the New York Times runs a piece.

00:35:53.000 Here are Donald Trump's leaked, read that, hacked tax returns, right?

00:35:58.000 And they ran it?

00:35:59.000 Nothing.

00:36:00.000 Now that's illegal.

00:36:01.000 That's illegal.

00:36:02.000 Hunter Biden was so high that he didn't pick up his computer from Geek Squad.

00:36:07.000 And I know it was a computer repair shop.

00:36:08.000 By the way, the guy who owned the computer repair shop said, I'm available for interview.

00:36:12.000 I have the receipt.

00:36:13.000 Anyone want to talk with me about it?

00:36:14.000 I will declare this to be true under oath.

00:36:17.000 No one from Twitter reached out?

00:36:19.000 Yeah, but here's the other part of that.

00:36:20.000 When he just said in the quote there, he's like, is there a way for us to hide behind this policy so that we can do what we already want to do in the first place?

00:36:30.000 Right.

00:36:31.000 That's how he said it, not, is this something that fits in the policy?

00:36:35.000 Let's look at it objectively and make sure that everything's okay.

00:36:38.000 We want to ban this story.

00:36:38.000 No, no, no.

00:36:40.000 We want to get rid of this.

00:36:41.000 Can we hide behind the language in this policy?

00:36:43.000 Well, there was, and by the way, there was a Democrat representative Who had a problem with this.

00:36:46.000 So it was Ro Khanna, who was, by the way, connected to... Well, Ro Khanna obviously was connected with the Democrat Party, and contacted Twitter's lawyer, one of their top lawyers, that Vijaya Gadd.

00:36:57.000 I'm pronouncing it incorrectly, but here's the thing.

00:36:59.000 It doesn't matter, because she no longer matters.

00:37:02.000 Now, this is what this person said.

00:37:06.000 Was concerned about the First Amendment.

00:37:07.000 Said, hope you are well, Vijaya.

00:37:08.000 This throttling of the laptop story seems a violation of the First Amendment principles.

00:37:13.000 If there is a hack of classified information or other information that could expose a serious war crime, and the New York Times was to publish it, I think that the New York Times should have that right. 0.93

00:37:21.000 And this is even assuming that it was hacked, which it wasn't.

00:37:25.000 So to restrict the distribution of that material, especially regarding a presidential candidate, seems not in keeping of the principles of New York Times versus Sullivan.

00:37:25.000 Right.

00:37:32.000 I say this as a total Biden partisan and convinced he didn't do anything wrong.

00:37:38.000 Now, this means that there are some people on the left who understood the gravity of this.

00:37:43.000 Yeah.

00:37:44.000 Here's something that really, I would say, is most disconcerting to me.

00:37:48.000 There are Republicans out there, there are people who want to tear down the conservative movement, who are trying to say that if you're a conservative and you're being a drama queen about the First Amendment, you don't understand the First Amendment.

00:38:00.000 This is a private company, they can do whatever they want.

00:38:02.000 How often have we heard that before?

00:38:03.000 All the time.

00:38:04.000 Every single time something comes up from somebody on the right saying, we've been deplatformed, we have been shadow banned, we've been demonetized, it's like, well, sorry, you guys said free market, individual companies can do whatever they want, right?

00:38:14.000 Right?

00:38:15.000 Right.

00:38:15.000 We're like, guys, you know that's not what's going on.

00:38:17.000 So you've got Bill Kristol, you've got David French, you've got Jonah Goldberg, and Bill Kristol may be just the worst Republican ever.

00:38:22.000 He is absolutely the worst.

00:38:23.000 I mean, you might find someone who maybe like crapped his pants or something in the Senate a long time ago, but I don't think you're going to get much worse. 0.93

00:38:30.000 In the coat room and didn't tell anybody?

00:38:31.000 So, David French said that what Twitter did had nothing to do with the First Amendment.

00:38:35.000 And this is what you're hearing.

00:38:35.000 And by the way, hit the like button because the algorithms tell you that we're dead on YouTube.

00:38:39.000 Hit the like button if you strongly disagree with the idea that this is not a First Amendment issue.

00:38:45.000 It directly affected the outcome of an election.

00:38:47.000 Anyone who is telling you otherwise either is lying or hasn't done their research.

00:38:51.000 We now know that back then Twitter was lying.

00:38:54.000 They knew that it wasn't hacked.

00:38:57.000 At best, they thought it was likely not hacked, but they decided not to do their due diligence.

00:39:01.000 At worst, they knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that it wasn't hacked, and they decided to throttle it anyway.

00:39:06.000 So this is David French.

00:39:08.000 This is just shamelessly wrong.

00:39:10.000 A private political campaign is not the government.

00:39:12.000 Meaning that at the time, Joe Biden.

00:39:14.000 Because Joe Biden was reaching out.

00:39:16.000 His officials were reaching out.

00:39:17.000 His team were reaching out.

00:39:18.000 Well, Donald Trump was in office.

00:39:19.000 Right.

00:39:20.000 A political party is not the government.

00:39:23.000 Hold on a second.

00:39:25.000 The political party that controls the House chambers?

00:39:31.000 Okay.

00:39:32.000 A private company is not the government.

00:39:35.000 It is if it's doing the government's bidding.

00:39:36.000 Right.

00:39:37.000 Then it says this isn't a systematic violation of the First Amendment.

00:39:41.000 The First Amendment isn't implicated at all.

00:39:44.000 This was not in any way a private company making a decision on their own.

00:39:48.000 This was a private company doing the bidding By the way, flying in the face of all factual information that we had available to us in order to favor one political party who, by the way, controlled substantial portions of the government and we're seeking to control all portions of the government.

00:40:04.000 Every coup that has happened throughout history has often historically been militarily, right?

00:40:09.000 Someone has some kind of a coup through guerrillas, right?

00:40:13.000 Or they somehow maybe subvert the military, get them to turn on their current leaders.

00:40:15.000 Right now we're in an age of information!

00:40:18.000 Guerrilla warfare.

00:40:20.000 And so, if the opposing party, to Donald Trump, right, we're talking about, of course, Democrats, Pelosi was the Speaker still at that time, if they can get Twitter, Facebook, Google, YouTube to do their bidding, that's the equivalent to a military coup.

00:40:33.000 You want to talk about insurrection?

00:40:35.000 That's insurrection using the most powerful entities that exist on planet Earth. 0.99

00:40:40.000 Bill Kristol retweeted an article and he argued that MAGA trolls were just mad they couldn't post Hunter Biden dick pics. 0.99

00:40:49.000 By the way, I was mad that we couldn't post Hunter Biden dick pics, but that's not what this is about. 0.99

00:40:56.000 He wrote, while normal human beings who denied Republicans their red wave were enjoying an epic sports weekend. 0.98

00:41:01.000 Yeah, sports.

00:41:02.000 I'm sure you know a lot about that, Billy.

00:41:04.000 MAGA activists were getting riled up about leaked emails revealing the troll accounts were not allowed to post ill-gotten photos on a company platform.

00:41:12.000 Hey, hold on a second, Bill Crystal.

00:41:14.000 You claim to be, this is like the Anna Navarro.

00:41:16.000 I used to, I was a Republican.

00:41:19.000 Okay, so we get it.

00:41:19.000 You're not pro-life.

00:41:20.000 Okay, so we understand that you don't like Donald Trump.

00:41:23.000 But if you say you were a Republican and you say the party left you, do you mean to say that you were never on board with at least the tenets of the Republican Party in theory that believe that government should be limited?

00:41:34.000 That government should not infringe on personal liberties?

00:41:37.000 That we believe, at the very least, in other words, you were a Republican fiscally, so then you would still have to believe In as much decentralized power as possible.

00:41:37.000 Right?

00:41:45.000 So how can you say, I was a Republican, but I'm really glad that the government, that the DNC coordinated with the world's biggest tech platforms to censor a story that would have changed the outcome of the election.

00:41:55.000 And here's another guy, Jonah Goldberg, who may be a decent man.

00:41:58.000 I've spent some time with him very, very briefly.

00:42:02.000 Never been a fan of the way that he presents his points of view, namely because he thinks that he's funny.

00:42:10.000 So according to him, the story Hunter Biden, and this isn't just about Hunter Biden by the way, it's about the implication and the corruption and the stranglehold that foreign entities could have on a potential future president who is now the sitting former vice president.

00:42:26.000 It wasn't just about Hunter smoking Parmesan cheese, that was the funny part, it was about the kickbacks to Joe Biden.

00:42:32.000 It was about the liabilities that we would face as a country if someone is beholden to foreign entities, which we now somewhat see with Ukraine and amounts of cash pledged that seem to defy reason.

00:42:42.000 So according to Jonah Goldberg, though, this story didn't matter at all because it wouldn't

00:42:46.000 have changed anything, which is, of course, factually incorrect.

00:42:49.000 Talk about A to C. They now think that if only the media had told us about the laptop

00:42:55.000 at the time, as the kid yesterday was suggesting, which I don't buy his theory, that Trump would

00:43:01.000 have won.

00:43:02.000 You know, but for the censoring of the New York Post, Trump would have won.

00:43:07.000 And I think it's a preposterous counterfactual, but it's also impossible for me to refute.

00:43:15.000 In the same way, I cannot refute that this bottle is keeping all the polar bears away.

00:43:20.000 Refute that your testosterone levels are 25% lower than your... Have you seen the polar bears?

00:43:22.000 He's the 40%. 0.98

00:43:22.000 No, no, no. 0.98

00:43:23.000 He's what skews it to 25%.

00:43:23.000 the 40% he's what skews it to 25.

00:43:25.000 And this is just a it is now become...

00:43:29.000 Can we lock the doors just in case?

00:43:31.000 It has been wrapped into a much larger narrative and so when they hear disinformation they

00:43:39.000 say oh you mean like Hunter laptop which actually turned out to be true.

00:43:42.000 Okay, couple of things.

00:43:43.000 First off...

00:43:45.000 It's not just about the Hunter Biden laptop, okay?

00:43:47.000 It's about the constant suppression of information.

00:43:50.000 And not misinformation, suppression of information.

00:43:52.000 For example, us, we had Kerry Lake on.

00:43:55.000 Biggest election stream of all time, 2016.

00:43:57.000 They decided we're not going to- sorry, 2016 and 2020.

00:44:00.000 They said you're not going to be allowed to do midterms, so it ended up being the biggest election stream off of the platform that is YouTube.

00:44:06.000 That suppression of information because Kerry Lake had a problem with the voting methodology specifically in a primary that she won. 0.57

00:44:12.000 We were removed for that.

00:44:13.000 It's suppressing people.

00:44:14.000 Who say, you know what, I don't think that keeping children at home for years with COVID is beneficial.

00:44:20.000 I think the net negatives outweigh the net positives.

00:44:22.000 In other words, it's not just about the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:44:24.000 How would the election landscape have changed when you take into account what, at this moment in time, okay, as the election was taking place, there was never going to be a vaccine, according to the DNC.

00:44:37.000 Donald Trump didn't do anything for COVID.

00:44:40.000 It came from a wet market.

00:44:43.000 The CDC and the WHO were to be trusted, and the Republican Party was a party that was anti-science at this point in time.

00:44:49.000 And, by the way, Joe Biden was, of course, beyond the scope of any type of corruption, because no one even knew about Hunter Biden.

00:44:55.000 It's all of it!

00:44:56.000 Now, let's just narrow it down to the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:45:00.000 And this is the straw man that Jonah Goldberg and David French and these people use.

00:45:04.000 They say, oh, it's a private company.

00:45:05.000 It's not a private company if they're doing the government's bidding.

00:45:07.000 Oh, I don't necessarily know that the Hunter Biden laptop story would have changed the election.

00:45:10.000 It absolutely would have, but we're not just talking about Hunter Biden.

00:45:12.000 That was just the most egregious example in which they were caught.

00:45:15.000 But let's just narrow it down to that!

00:45:18.000 Remember when I say don't trust the experts?

00:45:20.000 Jonah Goldberg doesn't know his thumb, if you have children, I'm sorry, doesn't know

00:45:23.000 his thumb from his d-d-d-d-dick. 0.95

00:45:25.000 Because according to the polls, we've talked about this, you can reference all of these

00:45:28.000 at lightearthcreditor.com, 17% of Biden voters themselves said they would have changed their

00:45:34.000 vote or not voted if they had known about the laptop story and the contents therein.

00:45:40.000 If you take that into account, this is just the Hunter Biden laptop issue, not the Fauci

00:45:45.000 issue, not the vaccine issue, not the mask issue, not the homeschooling issue, not the

00:45:50.000 Ukraine issue, not the Chinese issue, just the Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:45:55.000 Taking that into account, that would have changed Arizona.

00:45:59.000 That would have changed Georgia, Nevada, Michigan, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan.

00:46:06.000 You just change a little more than half of those and the election changes.

00:46:12.000 Here's another argument they make.

00:46:13.000 Well, the Dems weren't in control at that time, the Democrats, so it doesn't really matter.

00:46:16.000 They didn't have any power over Twitter.

00:46:17.000 Again, the DNC is the official wing of the Democratic Party.

00:46:20.000 Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, of course, are the de facto representative of the Democratic Party.

00:46:24.000 Of course!

00:46:25.000 It shouldn't only be people who are currently in government, though the DNC encapsulates that too, but people seeking the most powerful role of government, namely the President of the United States.

00:46:36.000 According to Tybee, just to be clear on this, by the way, who's not a conservative, this system wasn't balanced, it was based on contacts.

00:46:43.000 Because Twitter was and is overwhelmingly staffed by people of one political orientation.

00:46:46.000 There were more channels, more ways to complain, open to the left, far more, meaning Democrats, than the right.

00:46:53.000 This is something, and by the way, keep in mind too, with all this misinformation going out there, and conservatives being suppressed, we need to be able to fight back.

00:47:00.000 Of course.

00:47:01.000 So you'll say, well, why don't you just go create your own Twitter?

00:47:04.000 Okay, well then maybe they remove it from the App Store.

00:47:07.000 Right.

00:47:07.000 Or what happens that's no longer searchable, whether it's Parler, whether it's Rumble, whether it's actually Twitter now.

00:47:12.000 Go and create your own.

00:47:13.000 Or, you know what?

00:47:13.000 Hey, at the very least, Kayleigh McEnany, she was obviously press secretary.

00:47:17.000 Yeah.

00:47:18.000 She was removed just for mentioning the Hunter Biden story.

00:47:21.000 So when you have Twitter, who has provided protections under Section 230 as a public utility, and they are removing the people in government who are tasked with ensuring that you receive accurate information, at what point Do we say, okay, it's no longer a private entity.

00:47:38.000 It used to be that the government was in a position of power and they would have strong men in industry, right, to enforce their unfair laws, legislation, right, to enforce what basically ended up benefiting those at the top.

00:47:54.000 It's the exact opposite now.

00:47:55.000 It's the elites in power who are worth far more than these individuals in government who now have the government enforcing their wishes.

00:48:03.000 And it's a quid pro quo.

00:48:04.000 And I ask you, do you feel free?

00:48:07.000 And something else?

00:48:08.000 It's really important to keep an eye, especially as we go into another election.

00:48:11.000 Conservatives who concede this territory.

00:48:14.000 We're not looking to be removed from YouTube, but guess what?

00:48:16.000 We're fine with it if it happens.

00:48:18.000 Nothing would make me happier than all of you heading on over to Rumble right now.

00:48:21.000 I cannot force you to.

00:48:22.000 But when you have conservatives going out as apologists for Twitter, going out as apologists for Facebook, or demanding That other conservatives play ball with YouTube and that they make sure that they remain monetized.

00:48:35.000 These things happen, right?

00:48:36.000 And I'm not just talking about David French.

00:48:38.000 We need to keep an eye on that because we need to expect better from people in our movement.

00:48:42.000 We need to be... It's time to storm the castle and we need to be a battering ram.

00:48:47.000 We can't keep playing this, oh, well, is it a private company?

00:48:50.000 It's not.

00:48:50.000 Nope!

00:48:51.000 We've proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that it's not.

00:48:53.000 When Republicans have power, conservatives have any kind of power, they need some legislative accomplishments or...

00:49:00.000 Change him.

00:49:01.000 Boot him. 0.99

00:49:02.000 And that includes people who've been on this show.

00:49:03.000 I'm actually really excited to have our next guest on the show.

00:49:06.000 Before we bring him on here, we're going to have a stinger, and then we're going to have a brief introduction for those of you who missed the interview that had taken place with Ye and Alex Jones.

00:49:19.000 There's so much to get through, and of course we'll be taking some of your questions as we go to Mug Club later on, but Just to be clear, hey, before we move on with this, just to be clear, please, by the way, hit the share button, hit the rumble button, hit like, whatever it is, Tim, that you want them to hit right now for the algorithms, because YouTube is not going to want you to see this.

00:49:36.000 Just go ahead and pick one.

00:49:37.000 Don't do the paralysis by analysis.

00:49:39.000 If I say two or three, he's like, it's like a lion tamer with three prongs in the stool.

00:49:45.000 Just to be clear, before we have Alex Jones on and we discuss this topic, do we all agree here, Hitler bad? 0.85

00:49:53.000 Yes!

00:49:54.000 Absolutely.

00:49:55.000 There we go, there we go, there we go.

00:49:55.000 Good, good.

00:49:58.000 Hitler, bad, right? 0.95

00:50:00.000 And none of you are just keeping up appearances.

00:50:00.000 That's the context.

00:50:03.000 We all genuinely believe that Hitler was a bad guy. 0.99

00:50:03.000 No, no, no, no, no. 0.99

00:50:06.000 He was.

00:50:07.000 National socialist, disarmed the population, big government, progressive.

00:50:12.000 Homo. 0.68

00:50:12.000 Right. 0.68

00:50:13.000 Maybe that too. 1.00

00:50:16.000 He's a homo. 1.00

00:50:18.000 And by the way... Have you ever seen Ava Braun? 0.99

00:50:20.000 Come on.

00:50:22.000 One day blew his brains out, I think, after he was married. 0.84

00:50:25.000 It was worse than the war. 0.81

00:50:25.000 Didn't take long. 0.81

00:50:27.000 So, let's bring on Alex Jones.

00:50:34.000 Ugh.

00:50:36.000 We got the whole quagmire.

00:50:37.000 I did find some just entertainment, sick entertainment, though, watching him on Alex Jones, uh, yesterday.

00:50:41.000 And it's just funny because like Alex Jones was treating Kanye West the way that everyone else treats Alex Jones on

00:50:48.000 Laughter He kept trying to give him an out. He's like, of course the

00:50:48.000 their show.

00:51:00.000 media's gonna try to say you're a Nazi and they're gonna, I am a Nazi though.

00:51:03.000 Laughter I don't know. 0.96

00:51:07.000 Well, CNN says white people are evil Nazis, so, I mean, I disagree with both statements, but I get the... Yeah, I don't like the word evil next to Nazis. 0.95

00:51:14.000 I think we need to look at... Oh my goodness. 0.97

00:51:19.000 Just because you don't like one group doesn't mean the other.

00:51:21.000 I love Jewish people, but I also love Nazis. 0.61

00:51:26.000 Oh, man.

00:51:27.000 Well, I have to disagree with that.

00:51:29.000 I like Hitler. 1.00

00:51:30.000 I don't like Hitler.

00:51:31.000 And I know you're trying to be shocking with that.

00:51:33.000 I'm not trying to be shocking.

00:51:34.000 I like Hitler. 1.00

00:51:35.000 I do not.

00:51:36.000 The Holocaust is not what happened. 0.67

00:51:39.000 Let's look at the facts of that.

00:51:40.000 And Hitler has a lot of redeeming qualities. 0.98

00:51:43.000 Perfect answer for the ADL.

00:51:45.000 They are going to have to listen up.

00:51:48.000 What we did is we brought Netanyahu with us.

00:51:51.000 Ah.

00:51:53.000 I'm in the twilight zone right now.

00:51:58.000 It was bad.

00:51:59.000 It was bad for Trump to meet with Nick and Yank.

00:52:04.000 Okay.

00:52:06.000 I had no idea your voice was going to sound like that, Netanyahu. 0.97

00:52:09.000 Well, CNN says white people are evil Nazis, so, I mean, I disagree with both statements, but I get the impression. 0.95

00:52:14.000 Yeah, I don't like the word evil next to Nazis. 0.98

00:52:16.000 I think we need to look at... Oh my goodness.

00:52:20.000 Just because you don't like one group doesn't mean the other.

00:52:23.000 I love Jewish people, but I also love Nazis. 0.61

00:52:28.000 Oh man, well I have to disagree with that.

00:52:31.000 Alright.

00:52:32.000 Mr. Jones, thank you for being with us sir.

00:52:34.000 I felt we needed to include that context.

00:52:36.000 Boy, seemed like you were holding on for a bumpy ride with that interview.

00:52:40.000 Do I have that about right?

00:52:42.000 Did you expect that in your wildest dreams?

00:52:45.000 Uh, no, I didn't.

00:52:46.000 And I didn't say what he could talk about, but I said, can we just try to bring people together and, and, you know, talk about real issues like human trafficking and fentanyl and how you want to bring jobs back to America and really see the deeper side of you and not just soundbites.

00:53:01.000 And they were like, yeah, in fact, he doesn't want to even get into that stuff.

00:53:04.000 And then right away sitting in the same studio I'm in right now, Thursday, bam.

00:53:10.000 And I thought he was joking at first and Here's the deal.

00:53:13.000 He pulled up in front of the office and got out of the vehicle in the GIMP mask.

00:53:18.000 And so I didn't know what to say.

00:53:21.000 And I said, pull your mask off.

00:53:22.000 Let me see.

00:53:22.000 It's really you.

00:53:23.000 And it was him.

00:53:24.000 He puts the mask.

00:53:25.000 He unzips the mask.

00:53:27.000 And then it's really creepy in person with the mask.

00:53:29.000 Yeah.

00:53:30.000 And then, I mean, really, I would see this as almost like a giant trolling operation, really.

00:53:37.000 He was super high on adrenaline when he did it.

00:53:40.000 He feels really good about it.

00:53:43.000 And he, I don't think, has a very good historical knowledge about World War II either.

00:53:50.000 So, I mean, he really is in love with all of that design, which so much of what the Nazis designed ended up being brought over with Operation Paperclip. 0.68

00:53:59.000 So, if it's bad that he says he loves Hitler, then it's even worse that our own government brought tens of thousands of Nazis into World War II to run most of the major agencies. 0.61

00:54:14.000 Both are bad.

00:54:15.000 But I did notice that you tried to bring in the concept of, I'm trying to remember the term Hitler, was it the man yet to come?

00:54:21.000 What was the man to come?

00:54:23.000 The coming man.

00:54:24.000 The coming man.

00:54:25.000 And I remember, yes, exactly, the coming man.

00:54:26.000 Sorry, forgive me.

00:54:26.000 But it's something with which I'm familiar.

00:54:28.000 And I remember you asked a very pointed question.

00:54:30.000 You said you don't want to be that coming man.

00:54:32.000 And it was very clear to me That regardless of where people line up here on any of this, and of course I'm anti-Hitler and I know that you are and I'm really glad the Allies beat the Nazis, he was not familiar with that.

00:54:42.000 And so it does concern me that if he's going to go out and make these statements, were you concerned sort of understanding or being around his close inner social circle that they really aren't doing a good job in ensuring that he's informed when he goes out and discusses these issues?

00:54:59.000 He is very forceful and has a big personality.

00:55:03.000 And it's really hard to get a word in edgewise, kind of like Trump.

00:55:06.000 And people think I have a big personality, but I'll actually be quiet sometimes, and I'm not putting him down for that.

00:55:12.000 You couldn't shut him up.

00:55:12.000 He was like a whirlwind.

00:55:14.000 He was going to say what he was going to say.

00:55:15.000 And I was bringing up historic, real things about the Nazis that my family, who were in World War II, told me about.

00:55:22.000 Oh, that's true.

00:55:23.000 We saw that in Germany, or we saw that in Italy.

00:55:25.000 Again, both my grandfathers almost died, both of them, World War II.

00:55:28.000 I almost don't exist because of it.

00:55:30.000 And they, you know, they talked about what the Nazis were like.

00:55:33.000 And my mom's dad also worked on some black budget weapons programs in the

00:55:40.000 fifties and sixties, and just said that he'd been in some military bases that

00:55:44.000 had Nazis on them and they were very, very arrogant and he didn't like having 0.51

00:55:48.000 to work with them in these, in these, some of these programs.

00:55:50.000 I sound like eight years old hearing my grandfather in Austin, Texas, sitting around the kitchen table bitching about, you know, Nazis and working on secret weapons programs and how arrogant they were and how much he hated the government bringing them in here.

00:56:02.000 So that's a real thing that's going on.

00:56:05.000 So my dislike of Nazis really comes from my grandfathers, who both didn't like them very much.

00:56:11.000 Right, well let me ask you this.

00:56:13.000 What was it when you had, obviously there's the numbers aspect because he's a huge name right now in the media.

00:56:18.000 What was it that you were looking to achieve or what were you hoping would be the end goal?

00:56:24.000 What would be the ideal scenario with this interview with Ye?

00:56:27.000 Because obviously it went viral across the media, but bringing him in, what were you hoping was going to come of it?

00:56:34.000 Well, while I was listening to you do a great job at breaking down that This whole Hunter Laptop thing and the Twitter files are a lot bigger than just Hunter Biden.

00:56:43.000 It's everything they've been censoring.

00:56:45.000 I was thinking, what do I want to say about Ye first? 0.93

00:56:47.000 And it's just this.

00:56:48.000 I really thought I could come in here and shut up at first and let him get it out of his system, even if he did it.

00:56:54.000 I was saying, hey, let's do something different.

00:56:57.000 Let's show him your intellectual side.

00:56:59.000 Let's get into a bunch of issues.

00:57:00.000 And I had all these issues in front of me.

00:57:02.000 He goes, why don't you just set those aside?

00:57:03.000 We're not getting into that.

00:57:05.000 I was like, okay, he's letting me know he's in control.

00:57:07.000 And so I figured after an hour at least he would let me kind of then bring up some topics I wanted.

00:57:13.000 But you kind of had the salacious crumb, the baby Hitler of Nick Fuentes over there. 0.86

00:57:20.000 That was a joke Jimmy Kimmel made, like, where have I seen this before?

00:57:24.000 I'm Jabba the Hutt and there's a salacious crumb sitting there.

00:57:27.000 But seriously, I didn't know that Nick Fuentes was really a Nazi lover.

00:57:32.000 I've had him on over the years three or four times whenever he was being debanked or censored, and he would be like, no, I'm not a Nazi.

00:57:38.000 I just care about white people's rights. 0.95

00:57:40.000 So I think this whole thing was a real coming out.

00:57:45.000 And I'll be honest with you, especially with the Fointest thing, and I'll still have Fointest on, I believe in the First Amendment.

00:57:50.000 Yeah.

00:57:50.000 But there's a real creepy factor with this Hitler stuff.

00:57:53.000 Then I also noticed that Richard Spencer came out and said, yay, blew Jones away because Jones is really controlled

00:58:00.000 by the liberal narrative that Hitler's bad.

00:58:03.000 But those of us that know the dark, powerful beauty of Hitler and of the darkness and of the strength, 0.97

00:58:09.000 and it's like some homoerotic thing over Hitler, that is kind of what's going on.

00:58:14.000 There's this Hitler fetish and no, I'm not into dudes in fancy peacock military uniforms that, 0.86

00:58:20.000 by the way, got 22 million Germans killed. 0.71

00:58:24.000 So the biggest killer of Germans in history, if you like Germanic people, and I'm, you know, I'm basically half German, have a lot of German roots, is Hitler. 0.95

00:58:31.000 Hitler was a disaster. 0.98

00:58:33.000 Hitler was an occultist. 1.00

00:58:35.000 Hitler was a pedophile. 1.00

00:58:36.000 Hitler was horrible. 1.00

00:58:38.000 Screw Hitler. 1.00

00:58:39.000 Burn in hell Hitler. 1.00

00:58:40.000 And the left uses Hitler to push their communist agenda that is basically just as bad and authoritarian to call all of us Hitler. 0.99

00:58:47.000 And so people are so sick of being called Hitler, they go, hey, if Hitler is so powerful, let's just say we're with Hitler.

00:58:53.000 And that's what these people are doing.

00:58:54.000 And I felt like I was sucked in to a giant publicity stunt.

00:58:58.000 Now, I'm not mad at either person.

00:59:01.000 I understand that they probably even believe what they're doing, but no.

00:59:04.000 I saw a whole bunch of programs like The Young Turds and all of them say, Jones is just mad they let the secret out.

00:59:10.000 Jones likes Hitler.

00:59:11.000 No. 0.92

00:59:11.000 I hate authoritarians. 0.92

00:59:12.000 I hate communists. 1.00

00:59:14.000 I hate Xi Jinping. 1.00

00:59:15.000 I hate Hitler. 0.99

00:59:16.000 I hate Mao Zedong. 0.99

00:59:17.000 I hate Joseph...

00:59:19.000 Stalin, I hate Fidel Castro, I hate Hugo Chavez, I love George Washington, I love Thomas Jefferson, I love American strength, and freedom, and power, and Christianity, and open societies, and capitalism, and free speech, and I want it back now! 0.99

00:59:34.000 So burn in hell, Hitler, and Stalin, and Mao! 0.99

00:59:37.000 Burn in hell! 1.00

00:59:38.000 This is what I told Piers Morgan! 0.99

00:59:39.000 Hitler took the guns, Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns, and if you try to take our guns, 1776 will commence again! 0.85

00:59:48.000 You are my yay right now.

00:59:49.000 See, I'm you and you're yay, see?

00:59:51.000 I think you have some empathy for what I have to do sometimes when you're on.

00:59:56.000 By the way, Alex, don't do that thing where you Monday morning quarterback and take credit for it.

01:00:00.000 Hitler was already in hell burning before you said that, okay?

01:00:02.000 That's not because you called for it.

01:00:05.000 But no, no, look.

01:00:05.000 Exactly.

01:00:08.000 I understand exactly.

01:00:09.000 First, I thought you were going to say the biggest killer of Nazis were the uniforms, because that's how we went in. 0.72

01:00:12.000 I thought you were going to say Hugo Boss uniforms were made of asbestos.

01:00:15.000 But no, I agree with you.

01:00:16.000 Here's the thing.

01:00:18.000 You have people trying to defend it, saying, well, and there's validity to this, Kanye West said, I love everybody.

01:00:24.000 He didn't say he hated anybody.

01:00:25.000 He said, I love Jews.

01:00:26.000 I love Hitler. 0.99

01:00:26.000 But he did go out of his way to praise actions of Hitler while condemning actions of Jews in this sort of general monolith, and he did actively deny the Holocaust. 0.99

01:00:37.000 So to act as though it was an equivalency of, I love everybody, that's not what happened with that interview.

01:00:41.000 Now, if people out there want to say, hey, he has every right to love Hitler, of course. 0.86

01:00:45.000 And if you say, I agree with him when he says he loves Hitler and that the Holocaust didn't happen, fine. 0.91

01:00:50.000 But to act as though there was this equivalency, you know, on your show, in its totality.

01:00:54.000 Sure, he said he loved everyone, but he did have specific praise for some totalitarian dictators.

01:01:01.000 Well, he said, he said, I love Hitler. 0.98

01:01:05.000 I think he had an orgasm over there. 0.98

01:01:07.000 Well that's just how he sounds when he raps. 0.99

01:01:09.000 I love Hitler! 1.00

01:01:10.000 Ha! 0.89

01:01:11.000 But he, um, I did, it was one of those things where, let me ask you this, do you think that ultimately it kind of ends up hurting, it kind of ends up hurting people who are out there advocating for free speech when we're saying we are not Nazis and the guy goes out and just puts on a mask and says actually I do love Nazis and actually the Holocaust doesn't happen.

01:01:28.000 It does make it hard for people out there because look, you're a lot of things Alex, an anti-Semite is not one of them if people have looked at you historically.

01:01:35.000 I don't even think many people have leveled that accusation against you.

01:01:37.000 If anything, you've seen anti-Semites, people who legitimately hate Jews.

01:01:41.000 And I don't mean people who don't believe that we should be sending a bunch of money to Israel.

01:01:44.000 I mean people who legitimately hate Jews have accused you of being controlled Jewish opposition for a very long amount of time.

01:01:52.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:01:54.000 Here's the deal.

01:01:56.000 I don't like MS-13, but I'm not against Central Americans. 0.89

01:02:00.000 I don't like the new Black Panther Party that's like a black KKK, but I don't blame black people. 0.81

01:02:06.000 So Jews are a very diverse group for anybody that actually studies politics and geopolitical systems. 0.90

01:02:11.000 There's a whole bunch of factions in Israel constantly fighting with each other and assassinating each other.

01:02:15.000 The Jews over there have some of the most draconian, you know, vaccine rules in the world. 1.00

01:02:19.000 If they're so special, why do they have all that?

01:02:21.000 So it's really not true.

01:02:23.000 Are there powerful mafias? 0.55

01:02:25.000 Are there powerful groups in Hollywood that happen from a certain group?

01:02:28.000 Absolutely! 0.98

01:02:29.000 And do we see those groups supporting leftist garbage in the media? 0.99

01:02:33.000 Am I irritated by those groups? 0.98

01:02:34.000 Do I like the ADL trying to take our free speech?

01:02:36.000 No, I'm a big critic of the ADL and they single me out At their big events just two weeks ago with the head of Pfizer and two years ago with Sacha Baron Cohen saying, I'm evil, I'm dangerous, I need to be silenced.

01:02:49.000 But there's all sorts of groups trying to silence my speech, not just the ADL.

01:02:53.000 So it's really what it is with these groups is.

01:02:57.000 And by the way, to be clear, just so people don't say, when we say these groups, we mean anti-freedom groups and we don't just mean, we do not mean Jewish people.

01:03:03.000 Just to be clear, George Soros is a second generation atheist.

01:03:06.000 Okay, let's be clear about that.

01:03:08.000 That's what I just said.

01:03:09.000 I'm being 100% clear, but at the same time, I'm not saying you're doing this because it's a lie.

01:03:15.000 I'm not tiptoeing around this.

01:03:17.000 What I'm saying is, I am critical of all of the anti-free speech.

01:03:22.000 Pro-tyranny groups.

01:03:23.000 You know, last time I checked, Tim Cook's not Jewish.

01:03:26.000 He's working with communist China to suppress their people. 0.64

01:03:29.000 Last time I checked, Xi Jinping's the biggest dictator in history.

01:03:32.000 His communist regime, going back to Mao, has killed more people than Hitler ever thought about. 0.66

01:03:38.000 They estimated 100 million.

01:03:40.000 So, But again, I don't dislike Asian people.

01:03:43.000 My sister is Korean adopted and I love her.

01:03:47.000 When I was 14 years old, we adopted her from Korea when she was six months old.

01:03:50.000 I love my sister.

01:03:51.000 I love Asian people.

01:03:52.000 But I am scared as hell as Xi Jinping and his 50 million man army.

01:03:57.000 And I'm definitely upset about it.

01:04:00.000 And so Again, if there was some country with a billion and a half Jews in it, and they were promoting freedom, and like America used to be, I'd try to go move there. 1.00

01:04:11.000 But if there was a country of a billion and a half Jews promoting world government and death camps and forced injections, I would say, I'm against that regime. 0.99

01:04:19.000 Not because they're Jewish, but because it's authoritarian. 1.00

01:04:21.000 Same thing with Xi Jinping. 0.97

01:04:22.000 I mean, it is the most evil regime in history.

01:04:25.000 It is our main foe. 0.62

01:04:26.000 We are engraved in I hate the Communist Chinese Party because my heart goes out to the Chinese people.

01:04:38.000 I think Gerald has a question for you, and I appreciate you taking the time, because I know that was a tough seat to be in, Alex.

01:04:46.000 There was a moment on your face where you looked like the Boom Goes the Dynamite kid, where you were like, Yeah, so I just wanted to dive into the Christian thing just a little bit, because people are conflating this Christianity thing with people on the far right that espouse these anti-Semitic views, and even Ye said, you know, I love everybody.

01:05:08.000 Well, that's—and you said it, too.

01:05:09.000 You said, not that you love everybody, that you're a Christian, right?

01:05:12.000 Just declaring, like, I am a Christian, I don't like these things.

01:05:15.000 Christ said he loved the sinner but hated the sin, right?

01:05:19.000 He always called people out for their sins.

01:05:21.000 Just to be clear, did Kanye call Hitler out for any of his sins on your show?

01:05:25.000 Well, let's be clear, and that's what Kanye didn't get, which is why I'm not trying to put him down, but I don't think he has a fifth-grade education about the Nazis.

01:05:33.000 And I'm going to try to meet with him again and actually show him some real history of Hitler's own writings.

01:05:38.000 Because Hitler was anti-Christian.

01:05:41.000 Hitler was an occultist. 0.95

01:05:42.000 He wanted to eradicate Christianity.

01:05:44.000 Some of the top Nazis in the party did.

01:05:46.000 Now, later, when he took the country over, did some Nazis wear crosses on their shirts?

01:05:52.000 Absolutely.

01:05:52.000 People mixed it together.

01:05:53.000 It's like, you might have a Texas thing and then an American flag thing or an army thing.

01:05:57.000 Yeah, yeah, they co-opted it. And sure, the Catholic Church was taken over by the Nazis. I

01:06:04.000 mean, they ran Italy, they ran Germany. So they went along with it. I'm not defending the Catholic 0.99

01:06:09.000 Church. But the idea that Hitler was a Christian or that Hitler was born a Christian and all this

01:06:14.000 stuff, Adolf Hitler was a deep occultist in his own writings, in his own words. That's why they 0.87

01:06:20.000 used runes in their uniforms. Everything he did was about, once they had a worldwide Aryan master 1.00

01:06:28.000 race in control of all the slave races, the ubermensch over the little slaves, the supermen 0.97

01:06:35.000 over the slaves, they were going to eradicate Christianity. 0.98

01:06:38.000 They want an earth worship, blood and soil. 0.95

01:06:42.000 If you want to see what they did, there's footage now on Twitter of Ukrainian Azog battalions cutting themselves, getting in a tomb, a six-foot grave, Bleeding into the blood, getting out, hailing you-know-who, but they hail Odin, and then they go over, put their hands on Odin, they've all got swastikas on their arms.

01:07:02.000 That's a real blood and soil Nazi ritual that Hitler invented that the SS did. 0.87

01:07:07.000 So when you see the Azog Battalion, they're doing SS rituals, they're not Christian. 1.00

01:07:12.000 They're co-opted Norse, Germanic, Yeah, one of the other reasons that I know these groups are not Christian, Alex, is because the entire Bible from the very beginning to the very end is God's redemption plan for us, but specifically the Jewish people, and God is not done with them. 0.82

01:07:30.000 He promises them an opportunity to come back and have a final chance.

01:07:34.000 That's the entire book of Revelation.

01:07:36.000 Most of the Bible is about the redemption of the Jews. And so for anybody out there to 0.82

01:07:42.000 espouse Christianity and say, I'm anti-Semitic and that this stuff wasn't bad, they haven't 1.00

01:07:45.000 read the book. They are not amongst us. They are wolves in sheep's clothing. And by the way, my

01:07:49.000 final point on this was, you've talked about the history in World War II, and he's like, well,

01:07:53.000 Hitler invented the microphone and he did this and he did this and he did this. He said highways and 0.95

01:07:57.000 the microphone that I'm using.

01:07:59.000 I think he maybe means the Autobahn. Like roads were around before Hitler.

01:08:03.000 They were, but I mean his highway system, the Hugo Boss stuff, the rockets, I get all that.

01:08:07.000 He doesn't mention the fact that he did things that would make the Egyptians blush with the people that they killed to build the pyramids.

01:08:13.000 I get it, maybe aliens did it as well, but I don't think he understands how many people's lives were destroyed.

01:08:18.000 That's why they have to deny it.

01:08:19.000 That's why there has to be a Holocaust denial component.

01:08:22.000 And this is, first off, before I move on to this, because there's so much to unpack here, Alex, how do you think the press has covered it?

01:08:29.000 And I don't mean you, I think that, I don't mean, of course they'll try and tar and feather you, but I'm saying, do you think that this, the way the press has said that, hey, Kanye West, yay on Alex Jones, went off and was very obviously incredibly anti-Semitic, Do we think that in this case, was the press partially right?

01:08:46.000 In other words, are they completely misrepresenting it?

01:08:48.000 Or when you were sitting there, did you feel as though this is probably not productive for him?

01:08:56.000 Look, I like Kanye West.

01:09:00.000 I like Ye.

01:09:01.000 I think he really means well.

01:09:03.000 I don't know if Nick Fuentes believes what he's saying and doing.

01:09:06.000 Nick says a lot of really good stuff I agree with.

01:09:09.000 Once I heard him endorse that he thinks Hitler's great, I lost a lot of respect for him because I know Nick's really smart.

01:09:16.000 And I'm not saying Ye isn't smart, but he's kind of a savant and has a lot of talent and stuff.

01:09:23.000 And so, yeah, I think in the long run, Ye wants to be a big revolutionary and wants to hit the barbed wire, as he said.

01:09:29.000 He said, you're Terminator 1, we're Terminator 10.

01:09:33.000 And I just really think at the end of the day that that's not the case.

01:09:35.000 The left have adopted so many of the actual Nazi tactics of control and their whole system of lockdowns.

01:09:44.000 What we see in China, big groups of people by the tens of thousands being marched together, being led by one Pied Piper in the whole white, white medical uniform.

01:09:53.000 That's the real type of ideology that the Nazis were striving for and we know that Hitler and of course Joseph Goebbels wrote about how, this is public, they wanted to take over England and kill HG Wells and kill Bertrand Russell and others because HG Wells and Bertrand Russell had a competing authoritarian world government leftist model That the Nazis were competing with and they saw themselves, as you said, as socialist, but a different brand of it. 0.51

01:10:23.000 And so I happen to know for a fact that the left and the tactic, that's what George Orwell wrote in 1984 about.

01:10:28.000 George Orwell was number two in the propaganda arm of British intelligence in World War II.

01:10:33.000 He'd been a communist before that in the Spanish Civil War and been a hero and heavily wounded.

01:10:38.000 But then when he actually got at the top of the British socialist society and recognized that That actually Stalin was being funded by the West.

01:10:49.000 It was actually a war against the individual in the future and that Hitler had been wound up by British intelligence, not run by them, but actually built up and given power and funding early by the big banks.

01:11:01.000 He realized that There was a global authoritarian system that operated under different names, but basically had the same goal, total power and control.

01:11:09.000 And the reason I know that is not just reading 1984 probably eight, nine times, but I've read the writings, the essays in several big compendiums of George Orwell, right before he died in 1949.

01:11:19.000 He finished 1984 in like 1947.

01:11:24.000 But he died about a year and a half later.

01:11:26.000 And so George Orwell had this view of it as well.

01:11:29.000 He thought the Nazis were the ultimate evil.

01:11:31.000 He fought them before World War II in Spain and against Franco.

01:11:35.000 And then he later learned there was a more evil group of Fabian socialists, British intelligence, basically Spectre, what you see in the James Bond movies. 0.55

01:11:45.000 James Bond is Spectre, and I'm not saying all of British intelligence, but that British empire model that merged with America at Bretton Woods, and then America became the world empire at that point, that system is full spectrum dominance, where they want to control all the major groups and then play them off against each other in a Hegelian dialectic.

01:12:02.000 Can I jump in here with three things?

01:12:03.000 First off, I do encourage people No, no, no.

01:12:05.000 I do encourage people to go and research Orwell, and also, by the way, the Catalonians, because this is something where people will try and use it as an example of successful socialism, right?

01:12:13.000 In the 1930s, say, oh, anarcho-syndical socialism.

01:12:15.000 Go read what happened with Orwell and read how that collapsed, and the kinds of pressures, and basically there were still factions of warring socialists, because I was taught that in university.

01:12:23.000 I was taught that in college, that that was a good example of socialism, which lasted all but under half a decade.

01:12:28.000 The other thing is, Kanye West said, if you're Terminator 1, he's Terminator 10.

01:12:31.000 I don't think he understands how Progressively shittier the Terminator sequels have gotten after Terminator 2, so that's actually a compliment to you.

01:12:38.000 But here's something else.

01:12:39.000 Look, you know that I disagree with you on some things, and I agree with you on a lot, disagree with you on some, but I do think you're very consistent in your approach to what you believe morally to be correct and incorrect.

01:12:51.000 Here's my issue with some of the stuff that's going on with Ye, and I don't believe there's hate in his heart.

01:12:57.000 Like you said, I think that there's probably some ignorance because And the reason I hold out hope is I see him, he's very pro-life, and he talks about eugenics, and he talks about Sanger and Planned Parenthood, and the genocide that's taking place against black babies, but then he doesn't seem to draw the connection that that is something, of course, that Hitler was incredibly enthusiastic about and permeated our abortion policies today.

01:13:20.000 Hitler said Margaret Sanger's book was his Bible.

01:13:24.000 Look this up.

01:13:25.000 And they used Margaret Sanger and the Cold Springs Harbor, New York, Rockefeller-run eugenics laboratory as their defense at Nuremberg because it had been the Rockefellers and Margaret Sanger that helped set up the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in the late 1920s that then funded Hitler and was the brain trust of the Nazi race sciences. 0.77

01:13:44.000 So what you said is 110% true.

01:13:46.000 And that's what I would try to tell him Also, once we got off air, so I'm going to try to meet with him sometime when he's not as manic.

01:13:52.000 I'm going to try to explain to him... Do you think he's manic?

01:13:55.000 Can I ask you that?

01:13:55.000 I know you're not a doctor.

01:13:56.000 I'm not a doctor.

01:13:57.000 Did you sense... I've had bipolar people in my family.

01:14:00.000 And he has said that he was diagnosed with that.

01:14:02.000 Did you see maybe perhaps some signs of mania?

01:14:05.000 And this isn't concern trolling because I really hope he has people around him who are helping him and care about him.

01:14:10.000 No, I mean, I don't think he's mentally ill.

01:14:12.000 I think he's enjoying himself.

01:14:13.000 You know, they have all these diagnosis terms.

01:14:15.000 I mean, I'm pretty manic.

01:14:16.000 I have a lot of energy.

01:14:18.000 So does anybody that's successful.

01:14:20.000 I don't know.

01:14:21.000 But he did seem to be very, very... People can go to InfoWars.com.

01:14:26.000 Because remember, I'm more censored than anybody else out there.

01:14:28.000 They can go to InfoWars.com.

01:14:31.000 And they can also go to Band.Video.

01:14:33.000 And find the full interview and actually see it for themselves in context.

01:14:39.000 I can't bring myself to go watch it again because I can't stand watching myself, but I've watched a lot of excerpts and...

01:14:44.000 I just think what happened was he decided to go all the way.

01:14:48.000 He decided to try to be as shocking as possible and say, screw the world.

01:14:52.000 And then once he started pressing on the dopamine button of saying the things he said, he just couldn't stop.

01:14:59.000 And so it became, you know, just a situation of redlining the engine the entire time he was on.

01:15:07.000 Yeah, yeah, it seems like that might be the case.

01:15:11.000 All right, well look, I actually do want to ask you about some things that we probably have to discuss on Mug Club only.

01:15:16.000 Let me just leave this one thing, because I do think this is important, because look, we do know that you have many Jewish fans, I have many Jewish fans, and by the way, I don't just mean Zionists.

01:15:24.000 I mean, there are Jewish libertarian fans who believe, who support Israel, certainly

01:15:28.000 in contrast to Hamas and Iran and people who want to wipe them off the face of the map 0.72

01:15:32.000 but think that we shouldn't be providing as much foreign aid.

01:15:34.000 I don't believe that that's anti-Semitic.

01:15:36.000 I do think it's important, and I think what happens is people are imprecise when they

01:15:39.000 say Jews.

01:15:40.000 It's very different from, for example, black Americans or if you, for example, you mentioned

01:15:45.000 sort of people from Mexico, Mexican Americans.

01:15:48.000 Jew can mean, a Jewish person can be Jewish by faith, meaning they practice a faith.

01:15:53.000 They can be Jewish by ethnicity, and they can be Jewish by culture.

01:15:56.000 And to lump them all in, there is a very big difference between yes, I do think there's a conversation to be had about the secularists In the entertainment industry, and if someone wants to conflate that with anti-Semitism, what they're doing is saying, oh, is it because you're saying because they're Jewish?

01:16:10.000 No, no.

01:16:11.000 I'm saying for the same reason that there are plenty of non-Jewish people in the entertainment industry who are involved with grooming, who are involved with, by the way, the degeneracy of society. 1.00

01:16:21.000 The only reason that there tend to be people who are largely atheist Jews in the entertainment industry, or for example, in banks, which compared to them as a percentage of the population, is true. It's for the same reason that there are plenty of 1.00

01:16:31.000 Jewish doctors and scientists and Asian doctors and scientists because they're

01:16:34.000 very hard-working, industrious people who value studying, who

01:16:38.000 value higher education, and who value those fields of work. We need to

01:16:42.000 be clear when people are discussing these things that there's a huge difference. So

01:16:45.000 let me elaborate on that before you switch to Mug Club because I think this is very important.

01:16:49.000 The left has wrapped itself in we're Captain America, we're fighting the Nazis, 0.72

01:16:54.000 everybody else are Nazis on the side. 0.99

01:16:56.000 That's made a lot of people get mad and say, okay, screw you, I'm a Nazi. 0.98

01:17:00.000 I think that's what's happening with Nick Fuentes and people like Kanye West. 0.98

01:17:04.000 But I'll tell you, I've been attacked massively by the ADL, all these other groups, and they wrap themselves in, we're Jews, and then they attack me in the name of Jews, which is then making a lot of people think, well, Alex Jones is good, you must be bad.

01:17:18.000 So I know there are a lot of Jews out there, conservative Jews and others, that have sent letters to the ADL saying, leave Tucker Carlson alone, stop calling him an anti-Semite, it's not true, or stop calling Donald Trump an anti-Semite, it's preposterous, he's a great friend of Israel.

01:17:31.000 And so it's the weaponization of the left that is actually giving support to real Nazis 0.69

01:17:37.000 by watering the whole thing down.

01:17:39.000 It's very, very, very, very serious.

01:17:41.000 And the ADL knows exactly what they're doing.

01:17:44.000 So I think people have a right to say whatever they want as long as they don't call for violence.

01:17:48.000 I think if the Azog battalions on there doing literal hit rituals on Twitter, you know, 1.00

01:17:52.000 yay should still be on there.

01:17:54.000 So I'm not defending any of the censorship, any of that.

01:17:57.000 I'm just simply saying the left weaponizing World War II that ended 76 years ago, 77

01:18:04.000 however many years ago, is very, very dangerous. 0.97

01:18:07.000 And the left's saying at universities, the national news, you cover it more than anybody, that being white's inherently bad and teaching courses on that is going to then make Nazis sound legitimate because here's a bunch of leftist academics and Hollywood people, a lot of Jews, Literally trying to teach the majority minorities, who are now the majority, that, oh, white people who aren't a certain, you know, religious group, you know, white people except Jews, are all bad people. 0.97

01:18:32.000 This is, this is Hitlerian. 0.98

01:18:34.000 This is racist.

01:18:35.000 This is race-based politics by the other side. 0.53

01:18:37.000 I know almost all Americans, no matter what color they are, disagree with it.

01:18:41.000 Almost all Jews disagree with it.

01:18:42.000 But when we look at the media and just Yeah.

01:18:45.000 No, I think you're right. 0.97

01:18:46.000 It sounds like Hitler when they're on MSNBC saying white people are inherently bad, and it's gonna be great when 1.00

01:18:52.000 there's no more white people. 0.99

01:18:53.000 That needs to stop. That is Hitlerian in the name of fighting Hitler. Do you see the psyop? 0.98

01:18:58.000 Yeah, no, I think you're right. And also, you know where I've never heard that kind of rhetoric?

01:19:02.000 I've been to many a synagogue, just to be clear.

01:19:04.000 Many.

01:19:05.000 Never heard that kind of hatred coming from observant Jews and Orthodox Jews, and I think it's important to delineate.

01:19:09.000 It is InfoWars.com.

01:19:10.000 We're going to go to Mug Club. 0.82

01:19:12.000 Oh, I gotta tell you right again.

01:19:13.000 Folks, ultra-Orthodox Jews, as they call them, are super right-wing pro-America.

01:19:18.000 I mean, I see their views.

01:19:20.000 I'm like 98% exactly.

01:19:22.000 And in Israel, the leftist Jews, when they're in power, persecute the right-wing Jews. 0.92

01:19:26.000 Right?

01:19:27.000 No, exactly, it's not a monolith, and people need to be clear about that, and I think that we need to be able to have honest conversations about all of these issues, and I just, sometimes I think that it's overshadowed when someone is, like you said, if you were, I don't think you were roped in to any kind of publicity stunt, as you said, I don't think you were used, I think you're clever enough to not allow that to happen.

01:19:43.000 Well, I knew it was a danger.

01:19:44.000 I knew it was a danger, but I believed it wasn't going to happen.

01:19:47.000 I would have much rather had it been a big story, and it had been a coming together and an awakening, and then have a relationship with Ye, instead of him blowing up like a sun-going supernova and burning himself up.

01:19:59.000 I mean, he didn't really hurt him for worse.

01:20:01.000 People know I'm not a Nazi.

01:20:02.000 I'm like, dude, that's not good.

01:20:03.000 But at the same time, Fuentes, and I'm going to get him back on air and challenge him.

01:20:07.000 He's just giggling too much, like it's fun watching this over here. 0.97

01:20:10.000 He's not stupid. 0.83

01:20:12.000 And, you know, he knows the history here, and so...

01:20:16.000 I'm gonna have a debate with Fointest, not a mean debate, but I'm gonna get my history, he can get his history, and we're gonna have a debate about this because, you know, to admit the truth about World War II, look, I mean, I told the story when they were here.

01:20:26.000 My grandfather, his dad was German, most of the rest of the family had been in Texas forever, but his dad still spoke some German and was only like second generation in Dallas, and they were rich Germans up there, and he owned the big Chevy dealership, all the rest of it, and they lived next to a super rich German who was first generation, who moved here as a kid, who was the inventor, one of the main inventors, of refrigeration.

01:20:47.000 He had big patents on air conditioning.

01:20:48.000 He was super rich, the equivalent of a billionaire today.

01:20:50.000 And in the fanciest part of Dallas, he owned like a 100-acre complex.

01:20:55.000 And my grandfather would go over there and he would tinker and work in this guy's invention shop.

01:21:00.000 The reason my grandfather, after World War II, got into inventing and stuff and was involved in some different projects.

01:21:05.000 And he watched this guy who had blonde hair, by the way, blue eyes, totally German, you know, I quote, Aryan. 0.78

01:21:09.000 He watched that guy From the early 30s up until my grandfather went off the Army Air Corps and he watched that guy get totally depressed.

01:21:20.000 You just shut up.

01:21:22.000 Become reclusive, and I think he told me, he only told me the story twice, commit suicide later, was because he later learned the Nazis over the decade that they were in power, from 33 or, you know, up, were threatening to kill his German relatives in Germany if he didn't secretly give him all their money. 0.92

01:21:38.000 So that's what the Nazis did, is they were the most cutthroat.

01:21:42.000 At the end of the war, they probably would have won if they didn't spend half their time running around stealing all the art, including the drapes! 0.75

01:21:50.000 They had whole giant cave systems that they had people build just to put the hordes of loot in.

01:21:56.000 I mean, they were... And by the way, if the people back then, this is the thing, it's one of those things where people today Monday morning quarterback and say, I think they did a lot of good things.

01:22:04.000 Well, guess what?

01:22:04.000 The people who were held out as ambassadors back then for Nazis Well, it was done by force.

01:22:09.000 For example, Max Schmeling and Joe Louis.

01:22:10.000 Max Schmeling.

01:22:11.000 A lot of people know the Jesse Owens story.

01:22:13.000 Max Schmeling and Joe Louis, right?

01:22:15.000 Schmeling was the Aryan representative.

01:22:16.000 Joe Louis for the United States.

01:22:17.000 They were good friends for the rest of their lives because Max Schmeling was not a Nazi, did not support what they were on board with.

01:22:21.000 Now, before we go to Mug Club, it's Infowars.com, and I'm hearing you.

01:22:25.000 I don't want people to misrepresent what you're saying.

01:22:26.000 You just said, You're not trying to platform because you agree with him.

01:22:29.000 You want to have Nick Fuentes on so you can debate him and show where he is wrong.

01:22:34.000 And I think that that is something that is healthy.

01:22:36.000 Otherwise, people exist in echo chambers.

01:22:38.000 Infowars.com, we're going to go to Mug Club because YouTube, there's no way we could do this here.

01:22:43.000 Alex, stay with us. 0.96

01:22:43.000 YouTube, piss off. 0.96

Louder with Crowder - December 06, 2022

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: ALEX JONES BREAKS SILENCE ON YE INTERVIEW! | Louder with Crowder

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