Louder with Crowder - KANYE STORMS OFF OF TIM POOL'S PODCAST IN AWKWARD INTERVIEW! | Louder with Crowder

00:00:00.000 Hey, really be really be.

00:00:17.000 Whoa, that's bad.

00:00:18.000 Really glad to be with you here today.

00:00:20.000 We have a lot to get to, and look, I want to be clear about something.

00:00:22.000 It's not lost on me that there are going to be factions, no matter how we address some of these stories.

00:00:27.000 We're not talking about the Elon Musk Apple thing, we're all on board with that.

00:00:31.000 But obviously what happened yesterday with Kanye, Tim Pool, Milo, and Nick Fuentes.

00:00:38.000 And I want to be clear about something.

00:00:39.000 You probably have noticed I'm not in the business of really attacking other conservatives, even if I disagree with them.

00:00:45.000 The point at which that changes, and I would love to hear from you before we get into this, for me, because I think we all have a litmus test, not a purity test, but we all do have a yardstick, is at a certain point when people who maybe claim to be conservatives are seeking to do nothing more than damage, particularly damage to the truth.

00:01:05.000 And if there's one thing that I really, we really do our damnedest to try and seek here at the show, it's the truth.

00:01:11.000 That's why we make all the references available.

00:01:13.000 And before I get into what's happening here, kind of on the right, and some people who are disagreeing, and hopefully we'll cover it in a balanced way, I realized actually just driving in the car the other day, almost all my ideas come to me when I'm in the car.

00:01:25.000 I don't know if you, do you have this?

00:01:26.000 Listening to music, usually it's like, maybe it's sensory deprivation.

00:01:28.000 I need to get one of those saltwater tanks. 0.73

00:01:30.000 Can we get Joe Rogan on the phone?

00:01:32.000 But I realize that my real problem with the left today, the progressive left, and I think a lot of you maybe have this problem, but we haven't been able to put a finer point on it.

00:01:41.000 We can argue all we want about how many genders there are and the sort of the culture war, but it's a symptom of something pretty pervasive, pernicious, all the Ps. 1.00

00:01:54.000 That the left today is quite literally, and I'm using the term literally, not figuratively, trying to reverse reality itself.

00:02:02.000 It's almost this sort of inverted parallel universe look.

00:02:06.000 Let me give you an example.

00:02:09.000 We know, as conservatives, or as God-fearing citizens of this country, that biology is innate.

00:02:17.000 And the left even accepts this to a certain degree.

00:02:19.000 Male, female, right? 0.94

00:02:21.000 That's sex. 1.00

00:02:21.000 That's biology. 1.00

00:02:22.000 Gender is socially constructed.

00:02:24.000 They don't believe it, by the way, because what is it?

00:02:26.000 It's what to what?

00:02:28.000 Trans male. 0.86

00:02:29.000 It's male to female. 0.70

00:02:31.000 Trans.

00:02:32.000 It's not man to woman.

00:02:32.000 Female to male.

00:02:33.000 It's not woman to man. 0.71

00:02:34.000 So right away, that kind of goes out the window.

00:02:35.000 But let's accept their premise for a second.

00:02:37.000 We know that biology is innate, and certainly as a Christian, I think that many of you also would agree, even if you're just Christian sympathizers or theists, that values are instilled.

00:02:48.000 Values are not universal.

00:02:48.000 Right?

00:02:49.000 You're born male or female. 0.57

00:02:51.000 You have no choice over the matter.

00:02:53.000 But values, and you'll hear this a lot, you know, when I was on YouTube back in 2009, there were no conservatives, there really were no Christians. 0.74

00:02:58.000 The common argument was, if I need a flying spaghetti monster to tell me not to kill, then I'm a horrible person. 0.98

00:03:04.000 You're just a horrible person using God as a crutch. 0.99

00:03:06.000 Well, hold on a second. 0.99

00:03:07.000 The idea of not killing, that's not a universal value.

00:03:11.000 Certainly for a long time, calling the weak wasn't considered murder.

00:03:15.000 Mercy is not a universal value.

00:03:18.000 Mercy was actually seen as a weakness up until modern Christendom.

00:03:21.000 Let's not just use murder as an example.

00:03:22.000 Let's talk about values like theft, the concept of personal property.

00:03:26.000 Hey, why don't you cheat on your wife? 1.00

00:03:29.000 Why don't we have child brides? 1.00

00:03:31.000 Oh, if I need a god to tell me not to have a child bride, I'm a horrible person. 0.63

00:03:34.000 Well, plenty of places across the globe right now still have child brides. 1.00

00:03:39.000 Monogamy isn't a thing in a lot of these countries.

00:03:41.000 Theft is not punishable in the same way that it is here.

00:03:43.000 When you go down the list of values, you have to realize inherently that they are not innate.

00:03:48.000 So we know that biology is innate and values are instilled.

00:03:51.000 The left wants you to believe the exact opposite.

00:03:55.000 They want you to believe, and this is the argument that they're making, that biology is instilled, that gender, and really like we said sex, they're interchangeable now, are instilled. 0.73

00:04:08.000 It's not innate.

00:04:08.000 You're not born male or female, but they want you to believe that values are innate.

00:04:13.000 I don't need a god to tell me to insert whatever it is here.

00:04:16.000 So while we know that biology is innate and values are instilled, and if you don't accept that premise, you are doomed to a society that will crumble, because you will have a society that no longer instills values, because you take them for granted.

00:04:29.000 And we have a society right now that wants us to believe that biology is instilled by some social construct, but that these values we take for granted, and we take for granted specifically because of the cumulative effect of these values being instilled into the citizens of our nation and the founders of our nation, they want you to believe that those are inherently innate, and there's no risk of those going away.

00:04:48.000 It's the exact opposite.

00:04:49.000 If you do not stay like a dog on a bone in instilling values and reiterating them and strengthening them, On a generation-by-generation basis, you are doomed to fail.

00:05:01.000 So it's not about trans, and the gender bender, or gay marriage, or even the, uh, whatever the company was, I f- Bella- Bella Siaga, I always forget the name.

00:05:10.000 Some company no one cares about with bondage, kids, and commercials.

00:05:14.000 Uh, it's not just about that, it's about the idea of society itself, and reality, and truth.

00:05:19.000 There's a direct attack on truth taking place right now, and I think that's why people are getting so aggravated, and they're not always able to communicate it.

00:05:26.000 We'll be talking about that today. 0.96

00:05:28.000 Before we get into anything, I want you to know, I do not think that Kanye West is a dumb person. 0.98

00:05:32.000 There's a difference between being dumb and being inarticulate. 0.97

00:05:36.000 He's an artist. 0.99

00:05:37.000 He's not a speaker.

00:05:38.000 So please understand that as we examine this conversation, it is through the lens of seeking truth, and not to denigrate any one individual, but I do think that we're at a turning point here.

00:05:48.000 We've been making some great strides, and we just can't give over the territory that's been hard fought.

00:05:54.000 Because it's been a long battle.

00:05:55.000 And right now, through the end of the year, all of you, it is a battle of inches.

00:06:00.000 That's why you have to fight like hell.

00:06:02.000 And we are closing out our Rebels With a Cause Tour, which has been fighting like hell just to not be removed from venues, Baltimore, December 3rd.

00:06:09.000 See you there.

00:06:10.000 Let's get on with the show.

00:06:12.000 This fall, prepare for two Rebels with a cause.

00:06:33.000 The Rebels will be back.

00:06:39.000 I'm just not ready to have to take care of another human being.

00:06:49.000 It's not your fault.

00:06:50.000 It's the man's fault.

00:06:51.000 It's not my responsibility.

00:06:53.000 A baby is not the mother's responsibility, baby.

00:06:56.000 I just want to make sure that I'm making the right decision, you know? 0.99

00:06:58.000 Because I'm so young, and I've got my whole life ahead of me, and I wasn't trying to do this, and it's stupid. 0.99

00:07:06.000 Yeah, baby, it's not your fault that you let a man in you. 0.99

00:07:09.000 So, I should go back to being selfish? 0.99

00:07:12.000 Be a selfish woman. 1.00

00:07:12.000 Yes. 1.00

00:07:14.000 Get rid of your baby. 1.00

00:07:15.000 Plus, it's kind of...not...cute. 1.00

00:07:19.000 Yeah, you got an ugly, preemie bearded baby. 0.99

00:07:22.000 It doesn't cry. 0.99

00:07:23.000 I think it has Asperger's.

00:07:25.000 That's gonna be even more expensive.

00:07:27.000 Special schools?

00:07:30.000 You gotta get rid of it. 1.00

00:07:31.000 Just throw it into Stupid Baby River. 1.00

00:07:33.000 Alright. 1.00

00:07:35.000 You're right.

00:07:37.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:07:39.000 He doesn't even cry.

00:07:40.000 I think he has Asperger's. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Kick it! 1.00

00:07:43.000 Go on! 1.00

00:07:45.000 Kick the baby! 1.00

00:07:45.000 Kick the baby basket! 1.00

00:07:47.000 You're free now!

00:07:51.000 See, puppy?

00:07:52.000 It's having a great time going down the river.

00:07:54.000 He's not even scared.

00:07:56.000 Right.

00:07:57.000 This was the right choice.

00:07:58.000 No, it was the right choice.

00:07:59.000 I wouldn't steer you wrong.

00:08:04.000 If he's wrong, he's dead.

00:08:06.000 I'm going to reach out my own best to say oh, own best to tell you to run.

00:08:32.000 Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

00:08:39.000 Well pick me up with golden hand, own best to say oh, own best to tell you to run.

00:08:48.000 Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

00:08:55.000 Well, well, well, oh, yeah. 1.00

00:09:03.000 One man's trash. 1.00

00:09:05.000 Got a new slave, everybody. 1.00

00:09:07.000 Oh.

00:09:07.000 Got a new slave.

00:09:09.000 You ever catch a slave this big, Frank?

00:09:12.000 No, you didn't.

00:09:13.000 New slave, right here. 0.55

00:09:16.000 Oh well.

00:09:17.000 Let's get out of here. 0.61

00:09:21.000 Why don't you cry? 0.72

00:09:24.000 You have Asperger's?

00:09:29.000 dot-com.

00:09:31.000 And I'm going to be talking about the new version of the game. So, let's get started.

00:09:38.000 So, I'm going to be talking about the new version of the game. So, let's get started.

00:10:00.000 So, let's get started.

00:10:08.000 So, let's get started.

00:10:14.000 You're going, oh my gosh, there's a lot to keep track of here.

00:10:16.000 I got a timer.

00:10:17.000 I got, I got you guys telling me when I got to go.

00:10:20.000 I got to bring up clips.

00:10:21.000 I have to provide references.

00:10:24.000 That's a lot.

00:10:24.000 Yeah.

00:10:25.000 I'm not a maestro.

00:10:26.000 Ah, you are.

00:10:27.000 You are.

00:10:27.000 Kind of, yeah.

00:10:28.000 All right.

00:10:29.000 Glad to be- Why do you make us call you the maestro?

00:10:32.000 Well, that's a separate- It's above your office door.

00:10:34.000 That's a contractual issue.

00:10:36.000 More of a power move, really.

00:10:37.000 Yes.

00:10:38.000 Well, it works.

00:10:39.000 You got a problem with it?

00:10:40.000 You trying to control my finances?

00:10:42.000 Huh?

00:10:43.000 Okay, so this is going to be one of those shows.

00:10:45.000 Look, just please let us provide you with all of the context that we can before you get mad or, you know, some people I know there will be this reflexive reaction of, oh that person, I like this person, and I have to be careful here because I've had interactions with a lot of people who are involved with these stories.

00:11:03.000 You know that I know Tim Poole's a friend.

00:11:05.000 You know, I've had interactions with Milo Yiannopoulos quite a bit.

00:11:08.000 I haven't had any interactions with Nick Fuentes.

00:11:10.000 You know that I've been a Kanye.

00:11:12.000 I know some people say yay.

00:11:13.000 I don't mean anything by it.

00:11:15.000 It's not like I'm trying to call you Cassius Clay, even though you ditched your slave name and joined the Nation of Islam. 0.99

00:11:19.000 It's just I know you as Kanye because I listened to you growing up.

00:11:21.000 I'm a huge fan of Kanye West.

00:11:23.000 But this is something we're going to have to address based on what happened yesterday and it's come to a boiling point.

00:11:28.000 But more importantly, I want to talk today about the White House.

00:11:32.000 About Big Tech and every major media outlet right now targeting Musk.

00:11:36.000 And it's not a free speech issue.

00:11:40.000 Let me clarify.

00:11:41.000 It's not only a free speech issue.

00:11:42.000 The consequence, the ramifications could include the loss of free speech.

00:11:46.000 It's about eliminating competition.

00:11:48.000 You have five companies.

00:11:50.000 Well, you have two companies who control 95% of the information allowed on the App Store.

00:11:54.000 And you have five companies who control virtually all of the exchange of information online, trying to eliminate the one person, the one person who's decided that they aren't going to go along with it with Elon Musk.

00:12:06.000 And you have these dog whistles from the White House saying, yeah, yeah, more of that.

00:12:09.000 Let's eliminate these people because they are dangerous.

00:12:12.000 And I think Jordan Peterson has talked about this. 0.99

00:12:13.000 I've been talking about it for years.

00:12:15.000 Your goal should always be to be a dangerous person And to not have to wield it.

00:12:21.000 People should fear you.

00:12:22.000 People should respect you.

00:12:24.000 And you should be gentle and gracious.

00:12:26.000 And then carry a big stick when you need it.

00:12:27.000 So we'll be talking about all of that and more.

00:12:29.000 Joe Lay, how are you?

00:12:30.000 I'm doing well.

00:12:30.000 I'm a little pissed off.

00:12:32.000 Really?

00:12:32.000 A little bit.

00:12:33.000 A little fiery.

00:12:34.000 He's spicy!

00:12:35.000 This is about as mean as...

00:12:39.000 See?

00:12:39.000 That's what I have.

00:12:40.000 Did you remember those commercials?

00:12:41.000 The Burger King commercials with Joe McHale?

00:12:42.000 Yeah.

00:12:43.000 Oh, I'm spicy!

00:12:44.000 Hell yeah.

00:12:45.000 It was pretty funny.

00:12:45.000 This guy's pretty funny.

00:12:46.000 Then he's on TalkStreet and I'm like, it's the spicy guy!

00:12:47.000 And they're like, what the hell are you talking about? 0.99

00:12:49.000 I'm like, I have the ass burgers. 0.99

00:12:51.000 It's what it is. 0.99

00:12:52.000 You just don't cry. 1.00

00:12:53.000 You're gonna end up in the stupid baby river. 1.00

00:12:55.000 Yes, you are. 1.00

00:12:56.000 That's a perfect intro for today's show.

00:12:58.000 I was thinking, yeah, that's the greatest voice I could have done.

00:13:01.000 And just for people who don't know, we're running all of the Loud Earth Crowded Bible Stories, I think there's six or seven, because we realize that sometimes you miss them, so you get to see them chronologically, all the way up to the rapture.

00:13:11.000 You know him, you love him, Fastest Man on his feet, our last show this year.

00:13:15.000 Still has some tickets left.

00:13:16.000 Baltimore, Maryland, December 3rd.

00:13:18.000 Go to loudmouthcutter.com slash tour for tickets.

00:13:20.000 It's the only place that has had tickets left for a very long time, and I've heard you, people in D.C.

00:13:25.000 and Virginia, I thought this was close enough, and you're like, yeah, it might as well be the middle of nowhere.

00:13:28.000 We're not going to Baltimore.

00:13:31.000 So I hear you.

00:13:32.000 Sorry.

00:13:33.000 Lesson learned.

00:13:34.000 Fastest man on his feet, quickest whip in the West.

00:13:35.000 Dave Landa, how are you, sir?

00:13:36.000 Ahoy.

00:13:36.000 Good.

00:13:37.000 How about you?

00:13:38.000 Good.

00:13:38.000 Yes.

00:13:39.000 Getting ready to navigate this minefield.

00:13:40.000 I know.

00:13:41.000 I'm kind of wondering how we're going to do this.

00:13:42.000 Well, you know what?

00:13:43.000 At least I look like I'm 12.

00:13:44.000 I shaved for real today and I don't like it.

00:13:48.000 It's more so that you're wearing a hat that's two sizes too large.

00:13:50.000 It's true.

00:13:51.000 It's got Woodsy the Owl!

00:13:52.000 You look like the Cosby kid with the thing that's pulled over his... I got Chalk Demon on my shirt, too, of me and you.

00:13:57.000 Oh, that's right.

00:13:57.000 A fan came up and gave those to us.

00:13:59.000 I don't think that's a good shirt to wear.

00:14:00.000 That'll be flipped and taken out of context.

00:14:02.000 I realize a lot of the things that have involved me so far today is not good.

00:14:06.000 Don't worry!

00:14:06.000 I'm about to top it.

00:14:07.000 So, before we get to it, what are your thoughts?

00:14:12.000 On Kanye, on Kanye West walking up.

00:14:14.000 That's the question of the day.

00:14:15.000 We'll have a lot of questions today on the Tim Pool Show.

00:14:18.000 Is it Tim Pool Podcast?

00:14:19.000 Is it TimCast and IRL?

00:14:20.000 TimCast and IRL is what he was on, yeah.

00:14:22.000 Okay.

00:14:23.000 So we'll be talking about that quite a bit.

00:14:24.000 And I think the more important story is what's going on here with Apple and with Elon Musk and big tech.

00:14:28.000 And then also, I don't know if you know this, the rail workers strike, which was just pushed.

00:14:32.000 It was going to happen before the election and like OPEC Biden said, can you just push it to after the election?

00:14:36.000 Sure.

00:14:36.000 You don't need Dominion voting machines to be rigged for an election to not be fair.

00:14:42.000 If you just push all the economic calamity to after the election, hey, that's enough.

00:14:47.000 Of course, also covering up the smoking crack and sexting your niece, that also helps. 0.99

00:14:53.000 If you didn't smoke cheese, you'd call it crap. 0.99

00:14:55.000 That's true. 0.99

00:14:56.000 Either way.

00:14:56.000 Depends on what kind of cheese.

00:14:58.000 Yeah.

00:14:58.000 I wouldn't call it that.

00:14:58.000 It was a nice Kerrygold.

00:15:00.000 No.

00:15:00.000 Grass-fed from Ireland.

00:15:02.000 Gouda.

00:15:02.000 That's what people tell me.

00:15:03.000 Something about vitamin K?

00:15:04.000 I don't know.

00:15:05.000 We're going to try and thread this needle.

00:15:06.000 Speaking of threading the needle, here's someone who can't, Doug.

00:15:10.000 So, this happened this weekend, and I sent it to you.

00:15:14.000 I sent it to everybody.

00:15:14.000 I haven't seen it yet.

00:15:16.000 Oh, it's good.

00:15:16.000 You haven't seen it yet?

00:15:17.000 Fresh eyes.

00:15:17.000 You didn't send it to Gerald?

00:15:19.000 Yeah, he sent it to everybody but me.

00:15:21.000 I wasn't going to bring that up.

00:15:22.000 So the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, you know, they had the LGBTQ band, which just means it's a lesser band.

00:15:29.000 Not because they're gay, but because every member, from what I understand, has to be gay. 0.74

00:15:32.000 I don't know why they should be in a children's parade, but that just means that you're drawing from 2% of the talent pool. 0.97

00:15:37.000 They were definitively bad.

00:15:39.000 And I did notice a theme of fat pride at the Macy's Parade.

00:15:44.000 And I was watching this, and look, there's nothing wrong with being, you know, having a little bit more, you know?

00:15:50.000 You know there's a little bit of a weight problem sometimes, me, buddy.

00:15:54.000 So I get it.

00:15:55.000 However, if your job is to be a cheerleader, if your job includes athletic endeavors, It would seem to reason that it would help to be athletic.

00:16:06.000 So this is one of the, what are they called, rangerettes?

00:16:08.000 I don't know, baton twirler.

00:16:10.000 And before what you are about to see happened, I turned to my sister-in-law and I said, yeah, that broad's gonna get winded.

00:16:15.000 There's no way she's making it all the way through this.

00:16:18.000 That's a two and a half mile parade.

00:16:18.000 And she was like, come on, no, that's not, be nice.

00:16:21.000 And then this happened and she just hung her head and said, okay, I get it now.

00:16:25.000 This is at the Macy's Day Parade.

00:16:26.000 Everyone missed this.

00:16:28.000 See if you can spot the moment where this woman realizes that she is in over her chins. 1.00

00:16:36.000 Lower right.

00:16:37.000 Lower right.

00:16:39.000 Look at this throw and the kick.

00:16:40.000 Show it one more time for those who missed it.

00:16:48.000 It's like a Steven Seagal kick.

00:16:50.000 There's plenty of time to do a perfect roundhouse kick. 0.99

00:16:55.000 Baton goes up.

00:16:57.000 She completes the kick and still has three seconds to win. 1.00

00:17:02.000 Just for comparison, can we get like an actual kick?

00:17:05.000 You've seen people do this.

00:17:06.000 They're very, very, very athletically gifted.

00:17:08.000 It's her first day.

00:17:11.000 The Rockettes in ten years just gonna be throwing knees. 0.98

00:17:14.000 Somebody out there, like, will they kick high?

00:17:16.000 There's only six of them on the whole stage.

00:17:18.000 Like, we'd like to have more, we just can't.

00:17:20.000 Like, if this was just someone doing kick work at the gym, you wouldn't say a word.

00:17:24.000 When it's your job to throw an impressive kick as part of the grand finale in the parade, you should probably be able to maintain your wind long enough.

00:17:31.000 To throw a kick or fake it.

00:17:34.000 It's like when you see someone jogging.

00:17:36.000 You ever see someone jogging when you're driving to the car and they look around and they start walking?

00:17:39.000 I always make a point to roll down my window and laugh.

00:17:42.000 That was someone giving up in plain view.

00:17:47.000 He said, I throw pennies.

00:17:48.000 Thought you were gonna huck cheeseburgers at him.

00:17:50.000 No.

00:17:51.000 Actually, I've had Stephen yell at me from jogging.

00:17:54.000 Many times.

00:17:55.000 I'm just kidding.

00:17:56.000 It's more of a speed walk.

00:17:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:17:58.000 By the way, it doesn't require as much Lycra as you think it does.

00:18:01.000 Just eating ice cream while we're walking.

00:18:03.000 Hey! 0.99

00:18:05.000 Shouldn't little girls be looking up? 1.00

00:18:09.000 You know, what happens when little girls want to look up to someone who's a great athlete?

00:18:12.000 Look, it's not lost on you.

00:18:14.000 Incredible athletes, cheerleaders, rangerettes, whatever the people who do the baton twirling, they do the rifle, whatever.

00:18:19.000 I don't know the names of them.

00:18:20.000 My point is, hats off to you.

00:18:21.000 It is difficult.

00:18:22.000 How are you allowing such non-athletes amongst your ranks?

00:18:27.000 I got one.

00:18:28.000 She doesn't have a rifle.

00:18:30.000 This guy's probably the LGBT community, but check this out.

00:18:37.000 Of course it's Freddie Mercury.

00:18:39.000 Shocker! 0.98

00:18:42.000 He's asking Simon to call him.

00:18:46.000 Here comes his kick.

00:18:48.000 Here comes a kick.

00:18:50.000 Boom.

00:18:51.000 Wow!

00:18:51.000 That was a little higher.

00:18:56.000 I mean that's a lot of effort to get your dad to talk to you again.

00:19:04.000 Did you see me?

00:19:05.000 What?

00:19:06.000 Who's this?

00:19:07.000 I keep sending it to voicemail.

00:19:10.000 Why the sequins?

00:19:11.000 If you're not doing anything useful, go in backstage, get my stone.

00:19:15.000 Ah, good.

00:19:15.000 You're stretchy.

00:19:16.000 That's great.

00:19:16.000 I'm gonna call your sister.

00:19:18.000 Yeah.

00:19:18.000 I wonder how you got to be so bendy here.

00:19:20.000 It's a mystery to me.

00:19:22.000 She goes to college at Berkeley.

00:19:24.000 I guess you're both gifted.

00:19:25.000 Yes.

00:19:29.000 Anyway, I just thought I was peeing myself laughing on Thanksgiving.

00:19:33.000 Then I watched the dog show.

00:19:34.000 So! 0.81

00:19:35.000 You watched the dog show?

00:19:36.000 Yes, I did.

00:19:37.000 Yes, I did.

00:19:38.000 What is it?

00:19:39.000 The West... The Westminster Dog Show.

00:19:40.000 Well, John O'Hurley was on this show!

00:19:42.000 The West... Sorry.

00:19:43.000 I always think the... I always get the two confused that we've done it before, but yeah.

00:19:47.000 If you think soccer's gay... The West... No, just the West Baptist Dog Show. 0.99

00:19:50.000 Yes.

00:19:52.000 God hates toys.

00:19:53.000 Yeah.

00:19:54.000 Westboro Baptist Dog Show.

00:19:55.000 God hates pugs. 1.00

00:19:56.000 I don't... Well, maybe.

00:19:57.000 Whatever.

00:19:57.000 I don't know.

00:19:58.000 They have all kinds of... They're all white dogs. 0.97

00:20:00.000 God hates chihuahuas. 1.00

00:20:01.000 Well, that's probably true. 1.00

00:20:02.000 Careful talking about white dogs. 0.99

00:20:03.000 You're about to cross some lines. 0.99

00:20:03.000 Okay. 0.99

00:20:04.000 Okay.

00:20:04.000 Sorry.

00:20:05.000 Hey, I love dogs.

00:20:06.000 Joe Louis didn't hear it.

00:20:08.000 It's not his fault he was born that way.

00:20:11.000 He's loving of all dogs.

00:20:12.000 He doesn't have to be so proud of it.

00:20:13.000 It's true.

00:20:15.000 Also, I don't know why he has so many hoods.

00:20:16.000 So, Kanye West on Tim Pool.

00:20:20.000 Alright, this just happened last night.

00:20:22.000 This is making the rounds everywhere.

00:20:24.000 Full disclosure, obviously Tim Pool has been on the show many times.

00:20:27.000 I consider myself friendly with Tim Pool.

00:20:29.000 I actually think that Tim Pool is I think he's being attacked from both sides.

00:20:33.000 I actually think he did a pretty fair job, but look, this is what happened.

00:20:36.000 Kanye West, yay for people who are not familiar.

00:20:40.000 Was P. Diddy, is he still Diddy?

00:20:41.000 He was Puff Daddy, then he was Puffy, then he was P. Diddy.

00:20:43.000 Is he just Diddy?

00:20:43.000 They changed him many times.

00:20:44.000 Okay.

00:20:45.000 Sean Combs is how I... Sean Combs.

00:20:47.000 Puffy.

00:20:47.000 Right.

00:20:48.000 Me and his accountant call him that.

00:20:50.000 Right.

00:20:50.000 Either way, someone's getting shot in a nightclub.

00:20:51.000 Yes.

00:20:54.000 Kanye West appeared alongside Tim Pool with his, I guess, people who are working on his campaign, or advisors, right?

00:20:59.000 This was the dinner that had taken place at Mar-a-Lago.

00:21:02.000 I don't really know if it was a dinner so much as a brief snack.

00:21:05.000 And there are a lot of questions surrounding it.

00:21:07.000 We didn't talk about it yesterday because we didn't have the answers.

00:21:09.000 I was hoping we would get some answers here on Tim Pool's show.

00:21:11.000 Instead, Kanye West Abruptly left, walked off the show when the discussion veered into his views on Jewish people and whether or not it was anti-Semitic.

00:21:22.000 Here's a clip for those who missed it.

00:21:24.000 They tried to lock me up.

00:21:26.000 That's what, because every time I'm just holding stride and it's like, I didn't, I thought I was more Malcolm X, but I find out I'm more MLK because as I'm getting hosed down every day by the press and financially, I'm just standing there.

00:21:39.000 And when, when I found out that they tried to put me in jail, it was like a dog was biting my arm.

00:21:46.000 And I, I almost shed a tear almost, but I still walked in stride through it.

00:21:52.000 I think they've been extremely unfair to you.

00:21:54.000 Who is they, though?

00:21:55.000 We can't say who they is, can we?

00:21:58.000 I don't use the word as the way I guess you guys use it.

00:22:01.000 It is them, though, isn't it?

00:22:02.000 I mean, because when you think about it, consider it.

00:22:06.000 What do you mean it's not?

00:22:06.000 In 2018.

00:22:08.000 What do I mean, like, okay, so how about... Already the walk-off.

00:22:15.000 That's a problem.

00:22:17.000 He's on.

00:22:19.000 Kanye did ask him a question.

00:22:21.000 You guys want to bring that stuff up?

00:22:25.000 And then think we're not going to have a conversation?

00:22:27.000 Have the discussion.

00:22:28.000 You think he's going to come in here and say, here's my pain, here's my suffering.

00:22:32.000 And then he's going to say, and it was Jewish people.

00:22:32.000 I'm going to say, I hear you.

00:22:34.000 And I'm going to be like, OK, but don't you consider it.

00:22:35.000 So I'm not going to do this.

00:22:36.000 I refuse.

00:22:37.000 I got to go make sure he's cool.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, so look, that's a problem if you're running for office, period.

00:22:40.000 Especially if you're running for office on the platform of free speech and exchange of ideas, right?

00:22:44.000 If you ask someone a question and they disagree with you in a way that I think is pretty respectful, you can't walk off in a huff.

00:22:49.000 That about tells you how capable Kanye West is at being potentially President of the United States.

00:22:55.000 Personally, I was in that chair a week and a half ago, and now Kanye West is.

00:22:58.000 He's not mentally well.

00:23:00.000 No, I'm not entirely sure.

00:23:01.000 We shouldn't share a chair.

00:23:03.000 No, we shouldn't share a chair.

00:23:04.000 He's ye.

00:23:04.000 I didn't share a chair.

00:23:05.000 By the way, I just haven't done Tim Pool because I haven't gone out to Virginia. 1.00

00:23:07.000 Just, yay, son of a bitch. 0.99

00:23:08.000 This is gonna be a whole thing. 1.00

00:23:09.000 Sorry, I love Tim.

00:23:10.000 This is a whole thing, the yay thing, and most people out there are going, who's yay?

00:23:13.000 Kanye, for the uninitiated.

00:23:14.000 We'll just say Kanye.

00:23:15.000 Let me set this up real, before I get to Tim Pool.

00:23:17.000 By the way, Lil Puff Daddy's name is Love.

00:23:20.000 What?

00:23:21.000 He said, Love is my real name.

00:23:22.000 I just changed my name to Love.

00:23:24.000 It's what's on my driver's license.

00:23:26.000 The ego on these guys.

00:23:26.000 That's my official name.

00:23:28.000 It's like, I realize I'm not like Malcolm X. I'm more like MLK or maybe Jesus Christ.

00:23:32.000 It's like, I'm Love.

00:23:34.000 You did proactive commercials, okay?

00:23:36.000 You don't get to claim Agape.

00:23:39.000 My name's Agape.

00:23:40.000 Oh, good.

00:23:41.000 You learned a Latin word. 1.00

00:23:42.000 Shut up! 1.00

00:23:43.000 Yeah, in what way are you like Malcolm X and MLK? 1.00

00:23:45.000 Because there's two things that happened to them and you're fine.

00:23:48.000 Yeah, well, I will say he's not necessarily fine, so let me present my point of view here.

00:23:53.000 Kanye West has been wronged, okay?

00:23:55.000 This is absolutely true.

00:23:56.000 He has been wronged, we'll get into, he was medicated, he was institutionalized, he's been threatened, he was wronged.

00:24:02.000 And I do think that he has valid reasons to be upset.

00:24:05.000 Uh, and I think what people are missing now, people saying, oh, he should be able to say, sure, he should be able to say whatever he wants.

00:24:12.000 And I don't necessarily know which portions, well, I shouldn't say I don't know.

00:24:16.000 Every portion that I've heard, I can tell you which part is anti-Semitic or which part isn't.

00:24:20.000 Uh, I don't know all of the comments that he's made.

00:24:22.000 Let me put it that way.

00:24:23.000 But Kanye West has been wronged and the people right now who are supporting him saying, hey, he's being silenced for what he said.

00:24:28.000 Sure, I understand.

00:24:29.000 But he's being wronged now.

00:24:31.000 He's being wronged by a new set of people who are taking advantage of him, trying to say, look, look, look, look how wrong you've been in the past.

00:24:37.000 It just happens the people who are wronging him now, they're not Jewish.

00:24:41.000 And I don't, by the way, just to be clear, I am not someone who is against speaking in generalizations.

00:24:46.000 What I am against is speaking in unspecified, unsubstantiated generalizations.

00:24:51.000 For example, if I were to say, hey, 80-something percent of divorces in this country are initiated by women. 1.00

00:24:55.000 That's a generalization.

00:24:57.000 I'm giving you a statistic.

00:24:58.000 If I were to say, hey, as a voting bloc, American Jews tend to vote pretty liberal, which would seem to go against their self-interest in a lot of ways, considering people who are practicing Jews and their values.

00:25:10.000 That's a statistic you can talk about.

00:25:12.000 To say, hey, all Jews are X, that's now a generalization that's unsubstantiated.

00:25:17.000 So just to be clear, I'm not someone who doesn't believe that generalizations play their role and that they are useful.

00:25:21.000 Sometimes people say it's all about the individual.

00:25:23.000 It's not only always about the individual.

00:25:25.000 That's not lost on me.

00:25:26.000 Now, Kanye's been wronged.

00:25:28.000 He's being wronged now to begin with.

00:25:30.000 Some people are criticizing Tim Pool.

00:25:32.000 For being unfair by pulling up a headline on the outset of the interview.

00:25:36.000 Kanye only lasted 25 minutes before he walked off.

00:25:40.000 And the headline included the notion of antisemitism.

00:25:43.000 Here's a clip.

00:25:44.000 I'll just pull up this story from The Hill, which is from earlier today, 5 p.m.

00:25:48.000 Pence says Trump should apologize.

00:25:51.000 It's wrong to give anti-Semite a seat at the table. 0.98

00:25:54.000 This, of course, is related to a dinner that happened.

00:25:56.000 And I was wrong a little on the details.

00:25:58.000 So a dinner happened.

00:26:00.000 Nick, you were there.

00:26:01.000 Ye, you were there.

00:26:02.000 I just want to start off by how did this dinner come to happen and what happened?

00:26:11.000 I was talking to Trump for about a month.

00:26:14.000 We had scheduled the dinner in October.

00:26:17.000 That gives you the context of how Tim Pool set it up.

00:26:20.000 He didn't seem to be incapable of dealing with that question at the time.

00:26:25.000 So it's relevant because what Tim Pool does, his show, is they go through news, right?

00:26:28.000 They go through news and they ask their guests to discuss news.

00:26:31.000 We talk about news.

00:26:32.000 It's a big reason we don't really have guests on so much anymore because often it's just you guys don't want them to talk about the news.

00:26:38.000 We'll bring a guest on when we want to discuss the guest.

00:26:40.000 They are the news story.

00:26:41.000 In this case, I think it's appropriate.

00:26:43.000 Kanye West was a news story.

00:26:45.000 I mean, people are complaining.

00:26:47.000 You can comment below that Tim Pool might have interrupted a guest.

00:26:49.000 Like, Tim Pool interrupted a guest?

00:26:51.000 No.

00:26:52.000 That happens sometimes.

00:26:53.000 He didn't do it as much, though, as Kanye.

00:26:55.000 Nobody has ever been interrupted on a podcast.

00:26:58.000 Never.

00:26:59.000 Kanye should have... Hold on a second.

00:27:03.000 I like to have a laugh.

00:27:04.000 No, but it's true!

00:27:05.000 Look, so Tim addressed the point that you made just a second ago at the outset, because Kanye said, when we were backstage, you said I would, or backstage in the green room, whatever, you said that I would be, I would do well with the black vote.

00:27:14.000 And Tim clarified, and he's like, yeah, I think you would resonate kind of with an everyman.

00:27:17.000 He goes, but you're looking at the black vote as a they. 0.99

00:27:19.000 And he goes, no, what I'm saying is historically, the black vote has tended to go one direction, and I think you would do well with that category.

00:27:26.000 I try not to get into generalizations of they.

00:27:29.000 So they had already talked about this before.

00:27:31.000 And I don't think that's the most articulate way to put it.

00:27:33.000 I don't want to be in generalizations, but I made a generalization.

00:27:35.000 What you need to say is there are substantiated generalizations that you need to make for the sake of brevity, and then there are gross generalizations that may be wholly inaccurate.

00:27:45.000 And that's where a conversation needs to be had about your generalization to examine whether it's accurate.

00:27:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I can definitely see certain things as a misstep like that, but I think really being in that situation, you have Ye in there, and he's got the same issues that, you know, you do, which is he does- Ye.

00:27:59.000 I'm sorry.

00:27:59.000 You pull it on me, I'm gonna do it to you.

00:28:00.000 Did I say Ye?

00:28:01.000 You said Ye.

00:28:02.000 It's Yeezy and Ye.

00:28:02.000 Ye.

00:28:04.000 Ye, you had a baby?

00:28:06.000 Yes, yes.

00:28:07.000 Alright, Ye.

00:28:08.000 On Ye!

00:28:08.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 I get it.

00:28:13.000 You know what?

00:28:14.000 Yeah.

00:28:14.000 He's wrong.

00:28:15.000 No, but if you're there and he's just trying to, he's trying to get it.

00:28:18.000 He doesn't want to be demonetized.

00:28:19.000 He doesn't want to be deplatformed.

00:28:20.000 He can't just hand a mic to somebody and be like, say whatever you want to, because we do know that right now, wherever Kanye's mental state is, he's going to go off on something that can get Tim deplatformed.

00:28:31.000 I mean, there's a lot of working elements.

00:28:33.000 So for anybody to go at Tim about it doesn't make any sense to me.

00:28:36.000 I think, and I agree with you, my only slight difference of opinion is if you're worried about being deplatformed by hosting that person, then don't host that person.

00:28:44.000 For example, we've had Alex Jones on many times immediately after he was deplatformed.

00:28:46.000 It was a risk we were willing to take.

00:28:48.000 One time we got removed for it, another time we didn't.

00:28:51.000 No, I don't think he hates Jewish people.

00:28:52.000 I think he's been wronged, and I think that he's aiming sometimes a howitzer.

00:28:55.000 He's being imprecise.

00:28:56.000 But he's not wrong about everything.

00:28:57.000 So let me honestly like Kanye, you know, honestly, and I don't think he hates Jewish people. I really don't know

00:29:02.000 I don't think he hates Jewish people. I think he's been wronged. I think that he's aiming sometimes a howitzer. He's

00:29:07.000 being imprecise Yes, but he's not wrong about everything. Look is there a

00:29:10.000 conversation to be had?

00:29:11.000 about secular humanists with Jewish last names in Hollywood

00:29:16.000 Exploiting people in positions of you know, the performance arts talent. Yeah

00:29:21.000 Yeah.

00:29:22.000 Yeah.

00:29:23.000 And by the way, that happens in the conservative movement too, behind the scenes.

00:29:27.000 People sign contracts where they don't know what they're signing.

00:29:29.000 Is there a disproportionate number of people with Jewish last names in higher banking?

00:29:29.000 Yeah, it's true.

00:29:36.000 That's an argument that can be made.

00:29:38.000 But then when you get to, it's because they're Jewish and all... Well, now we have a problem not because it's offensive, but because it's inaccurate.

00:29:44.000 So let me first set this up.

00:29:45.000 Kanye West has been wronged.

00:29:47.000 And I do think that this matters because it might provide some context as to his mental state.

00:29:53.000 So, early November, he released some text messages.

00:29:56.000 And all these references are available at livewithclare.com.

00:29:58.000 His personal trainer, Harley Pasternak, I believe is how it's spelled, tried to have him committed.

00:30:04.000 This is what the guy said.

00:30:05.000 I'm going to help you one of a couple ways. 0.94

00:30:07.000 First, you and I sit down and have a loving and open conversation, but you don't use cuss words and everything that is discussed is based in fact and not some crazy stuff that dumb friend of yours told you or you saw in a tweet. 0.99

00:30:16.000 Second option, I have you institutionalized again where they medicate the crap out of you and you go back to zombie land forever. 0.98

00:30:24.000 Play date with kids just won't be the same. 0.95

00:30:26.000 Okay, let me be really clear about something. 0.98

00:30:27.000 That's the level of evil that warrants a face-to-face ass-kicking.

00:30:34.000 Invoking the guy's children, and by the way, a lot of people, it's a very common fear of being locked up, of being institutionalized against your will. 0.87

00:30:40.000 That is cruelty, and keep in mind, this is someone who has been hospitalized, allegedly against his will, and that does, look, people use the term triggered or PTSD, being locked up against your will and drugged out of your mind, that'll do it.

00:30:54.000 That will do it.

00:30:55.000 Let's go to 2016.

00:30:56.000 Pastor Nick, there was a phone call that he made that resulted in Kanye West being hospitalized.

00:31:02.000 And by the way, this is a guy, well, let's parse kind of the conspiracy theories versus reality.

00:31:06.000 Pastor Nick, he experimented on Canadian soldiers on behalf of Canada's Department of National Defense.

00:31:12.000 This is where some people have said MKUltra.

00:31:14.000 Wasn't able to substantiate that.

00:31:15.000 That seems like it's more of a CIA American program.

00:31:17.000 It is real, just to be clear.

00:31:19.000 Yeah.

00:31:19.000 But he did experiment on Canadian soldiers, and this does seem to be a man who is capable of cruelty and issued cruel threats, and this is someone who was probably mentally abusing Kanye West for a very significant amount of time.

00:31:30.000 Here is this man talking about the experiments in an interview.

00:31:35.000 So, working for the military, I wasn't governed by the same laws that the typical person was, so I could look at the impact of certain drugs that are not everyday things.

00:31:44.000 Is he interviewing himself?

00:31:46.000 So we looked at a drug called modafinil, which was for narcoleptics.

00:31:50.000 So if you give a soldier this drug, how long could they stay awake for without having any health detriment?

00:32:00.000 Modafinil.

00:32:00.000 It's very interesting.

00:32:02.000 It looks like him. 0.60

00:32:04.000 So this is a douchebag who's familiar with pharmacology, who has used it to experiment on soldiers, and is threatening to use it against Kanye West, against his will.

00:32:13.000 He's also helped people like Mac Miller, Ellen Page, before she was Elliott. 0.84

00:32:16.000 He's really been- Brittany Murphy?

00:32:17.000 So this is a douchebag who's familiar with pharmacology, who has used it to experiment 0.85

00:32:20.000 on soldiers, and is threatening to use it against Kanye West against his will. 0.87

00:32:24.000 He's also helped people like Mac Miller, Ellen Page before she was Elliot.

00:32:29.000 He's really been a few...

00:32:30.000 Brittany Murphy.

00:32:31.000 Brittany Murphy.

00:32:32.000 He's batting 100.

00:32:33.000 Yeah, go ahead and Google who this guy has helped.

00:32:34.000 Let me guess, Amy Winehouse? 1.00

00:32:36.000 Yep.

00:32:37.000 Oh, really?

00:32:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:32:38.000 Oh, that was just a guess, really?

00:32:38.000 Yeah, for real.

00:32:39.000 No, for real.

00:32:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, good guess. 1.00

00:32:41.000 Oh, what a piece of shit. 1.00

00:32:42.000 No, this guy, yeah, he's... Elliott Smith? 1.00

00:32:47.000 Yeah, he... See a trend?

00:32:47.000 Morrison?

00:32:48.000 Yeah, he cleans stuff up.

00:32:49.000 That guy in A Star is Born?

00:32:51.000 I don't know his name.

00:32:52.000 Yeah.

00:32:53.000 He's Luca Brasi, let's be honest.

00:32:55.000 So here's the thing, Kanye West was wronged, he was used.

00:32:58.000 Here's the thing, he's being used now.

00:33:01.000 So there are a couple different theories as to what's been going on, and this is just, some of this is going to be speculation.

00:33:05.000 Hopefully I can present a case to you as to why.

00:33:09.000 So remember, this is what happened, you know, it was last week, there was Kanye West, he brought Nick Fuentes, Nicholas Fuentes, Milo Yiannopoulos to Mar-a-Lago for a dinner with Donald Trump.

00:33:22.000 By the way, hit the like button, hit share because this is something that is being memory hold on YouTube and we'll talk about Ashley and Elon Musk.

00:33:27.000 It's probably going to be a little bit longer of a show today just to let you know.

00:33:31.000 Here's the thing.

00:33:32.000 So Kanye West has brought in someone like Milo and someone like Nick Fuentes.

00:33:37.000 Now the motivations there do matter if you're a conservative.

00:33:42.000 Let's say you like Donald Trump.

00:33:43.000 Let's say you like Ron DeSantis.

00:33:45.000 It doesn't really matter because these people, I would argue, want to destroy all of it.

00:33:51.000 They don't want the conservative movement.

00:33:52.000 They don't want Republicans to do well.

00:33:53.000 They certainly don't want Trump to do well.

00:33:55.000 There is a personal vendetta against Donald Trump with these individuals. 0.98

00:33:58.000 So he brought these individuals to Mar-a-Lago, which was not vetted by Donald Trump, which I think was foolish. 0.92

00:34:03.000 I don't think you should let anyone in there and sit down with them for dinner.

00:34:07.000 If their goal was to actually basically inflict damage on Donald Trump, well then it's been

00:34:13.000 incredibly effective because it's been a media cycle now for three days.

00:34:16.000 And Milo Yiannopoulos has quite literally communicated in the past because he felt wronged

00:34:23.000 his desire to take uh... donald trump down here you go here's a quote

00:34:23.000 Jeez.

00:34:26.000 i lost everything helping put trump in office my life and career were

00:34:29.000 completely destroyed was it worth it no i feel other utterly betrayed

00:34:33.000 i will have vengeance i'm dedicating the rest of my life to the destruction of

00:34:37.000 the republican party burn the republican party to the effing ground

00:34:41.000 jeez that seems pretty clear motivation so my question is then okay

00:34:46.000 kanye west did he know or did he not know But I think it would be pretty clear as to Milo Yiannopoulos' motives goading to Mar-a-Lago and goading Kanye West at this point.

00:34:56.000 Kanye West is being, I believe, used as a pawn again and you guys shouldn't be championing it because he says a couple of things that you like.

00:35:03.000 The guy needs some help.

00:35:05.000 The guy needs some support, not from charlatans.

00:35:07.000 Let's go down the list to this Nick Fuentes character.

00:35:11.000 He once called Donald Trump cucked, and he was very upset that Donald Trump disavowed white supremacy. 0.96

00:35:17.000 Yeah, for him to disavow white supremacy is very cucked and blue-pilled. 0.98

00:35:21.000 Totally, totally wrong.

00:35:25.000 Yeah, why would a president do that?

00:35:26.000 Yeah, why would a president do that?

00:35:27.000 So for the same reasons that we liked him, where we said it was pretty clear that he said, I'm not talking about white supremacists who should be disavowed totally.

00:35:35.000 I'm not talking about them.

00:35:36.000 They were fine people on both sides.

00:35:37.000 You do have people out there who actually hate that Donald Trump disavowed white supremacy.

00:35:41.000 Is that you?

00:35:43.000 Because if that's not you, if you like that Donald Trump disavowed white supremacy while saying there were fine people on both sides who supported at least recognizing our heritage with monuments that might have been a part of the Confederacy, and that there were liberals on the other side who had an argument to take them down, if you like the fact that Donald Trump actually I guess actually message to both portions of the voting constituency while condemning white supremacy.

00:36:06.000 If you like that, well then you can't be in alignment with these guys.

00:36:09.000 Well, and their whole intention, it seems like you said, was just to be a disruptor, to go in.

00:36:09.000 Yeah.

00:36:13.000 And obviously we've kind of shown you some of Milo's tweets there, or I guess it was on Parler that he was saying those things, right?

00:36:18.000 And he has obvious intentions.

00:36:21.000 It drove conservatives away from Donald Trump.

00:36:23.000 Because now they're seeing Kanye go in and say, I'm running for office, I'm going to be president.

00:36:26.000 Milo is the campaign manager, essentially, for Kanye right now.

00:36:30.000 I have no idea what Fuentes is doing anywhere near this group of people. 0.58

00:36:34.000 But it is damaging the crap out of the Republican Party and out of Donald Trump just by having him there. 0.81

00:36:40.000 And you said it right. 0.94

00:36:41.000 That's a mistake on his part.

00:36:43.000 If he is going to run an effective campaign to become president again of the United States, that kind of stuff can't happen.

00:36:48.000 Because it's very, very easy for those groups to just kind of walk up a side.

00:36:48.000 Right.

00:36:52.000 And that's all the media needs.

00:36:53.000 And of course, if if if, yay.

00:36:55.000 Sorry, I almost did it again. 0.61

00:36:57.000 Silly me. 0.99

00:36:58.000 It's almost like all of this is stupid. 1.00

00:37:00.000 If yay wants to be an effective president, he also has to do better than that. 0.99

00:37:04.000 Just to be clear, I've had interactions with Milo, with Tim Pool, I haven't had any interactions with Nick Fuentes, but here is something that I will say.

00:37:11.000 It's fine to have disagreements.

00:37:13.000 Ben Shapiro and I have disagreements.

00:37:14.000 I think that the internet is a better place, the world is a better place for someone like Ben Shapiro being out there than not being out there.

00:37:20.000 Rand Paul and I have disagreements.

00:37:22.000 I think that we are better off having a representative like him than not.

00:37:24.000 Same thing with Ted Cruz, right?

00:37:25.000 Certainly I would take him over Beto.

00:37:26.000 So there can be disagreements.

00:37:28.000 When there are people, though, in the movement whose only goal is to destroy, with no intent of building, That's where you say, okay, this is a bad actor.

00:37:38.000 That's where you say the term grifter.

00:37:40.000 That's where you say, this is a charlatan.

00:37:42.000 So the only interaction that I have ever had with Nick Fuentes was we did a show at, Gerald was there at Texas A&M.

00:37:48.000 And at this point, I guess he was organizing a group called The Groipers.

00:37:51.000 And their whole thing was going after anyone who they saw as cucked, you know, like Donald Trump, disavowing white supremacy.

00:37:57.000 And so we, you know, have our tentacles in every group on Facebook and we kind of keep tabs on people.

00:38:01.000 And so we know that they were planning on coming and storming the Q&A session, you know, kind of loading it up.

00:38:08.000 Because I'm an open borders cuck, if you know anything about me.

00:38:10.000 This was the argument for it.

00:38:12.000 So what did happen, and this is my only interaction with, I guess, the followers of Nick Fuentes, was you were there actually organizing with Q&A.

00:38:19.000 When we used to do Q&A, we'd say everyone who has a sort of a confrontational question, adversarial, go on this side, and then anyone who's a fan, this is the line, and we would go one-on-one.

00:38:29.000 Yeah, one-on-one so that no one just dominates the conversation.

00:38:32.000 And we knew because they sort of had like a hierarchy with I guess the Gropers, who was going to go first and then follow up questions. 0.98

00:38:39.000 And I think we actually have an overlay here from Texas A&M.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, that was one of the gentlemen there with the cross. 0.88

00:38:44.000 I was standing right behind him and the minute that somebody, and I'm not afraid of a cross obviously as a Christian, it's not a problem, but the minute somebody holds it up like this and is like going to the crowd like this, I'm like, OK, something's a little weird.

00:38:57.000 Either you're Kerry's mom.

00:38:58.000 Yeah, I was right next to him and I'm like, I'm going to position myself between him and you.

00:39:03.000 Right.

00:39:04.000 So what happened is we said, OK, line up here, line up there.

00:39:06.000 They had their hierarchy, their ranks.

00:39:07.000 And then last minute you said, oh, you know what?

00:39:09.000 Actually, we're going to switch the lines.

00:39:10.000 Reg did that.

00:39:11.000 We're going to switch the lines.

00:39:13.000 And now all of a sudden the leader was put to the back of the pack and the underling was put first.

00:39:18.000 And just, uh, uh, uh, uh, and was stammering, and you saw, after we addressed the question, everyone else peel out.

00:39:23.000 And we even saw their griper group afterwards, like, did, did you see it?

00:39:26.000 Tried to take down the cuckoo, like, you do not consider yourself amongst us! 1.00

00:39:29.000 You are a stuttering fool! 1.00

00:39:30.000 You're a coward! 1.00

00:39:31.000 Ban him from the group! 1.00

00:39:32.000 So these people destroy themselves, and their only goal is to destroy.

00:39:35.000 They've never done anything else other than destroy.

00:39:37.000 They've not created anything, and right now they're destroying Kanye West.

00:39:41.000 Yeah.

00:39:41.000 He was wrong, and he's being wronged now.

00:39:42.000 Yeah.

00:39:43.000 And Kanye West has built himself into something pretty amazing.

00:39:45.000 I can't imagine being under the microscope that he's under the stuff that he deals with.

00:39:49.000 Right.

00:39:49.000 And I understand that typing, I'm going to go DEFCON 4 or 5 on the whatever, it's just not something you should ever write.

00:39:55.000 No.

00:39:56.000 He said DEFCON.

00:39:57.000 DEFCON?

00:39:58.000 He didn't say DEFCON.

00:39:58.000 He said DEFCON.

00:39:59.000 That was a big problem.

00:40:00.000 Didn't I say DEFCON?

00:40:01.000 You said DEFCON.

00:40:01.000 Did I say DEFCON?

00:40:02.000 I just genuinely don't think that he knew it was DEFCON.

00:40:05.000 Oh, really?

00:40:05.000 I'm going to go, hey, what do you call that?

00:40:07.000 Ha! 0.89

00:40:07.000 DEFCON? 0.89

00:40:08.000 I'm going to go DEFCON.

00:40:10.000 Kanye, it's DEFCON.

00:40:11.000 Already wrote it.

00:40:12.000 Ha! 0.89

00:40:12.000 Oh, I thought he said it. 0.89

00:40:13.000 Twitter ain't gotta edit!

00:40:14.000 I thought it was me.

00:40:15.000 Well, no, he said it yesterday.

00:40:16.000 He said it's something about American history.

00:40:18.000 Actually, he said it, yeah, when my head's on the curve, and I'm like, it's curve.

00:40:21.000 It's curb.

00:40:23.000 Curb.

00:40:23.000 No, that happens.

00:40:24.000 But, yeah, with him, I just think, though, that you're seeing somebody who is, seriously, his psyche is broken.

00:40:30.000 Yeah.

00:40:30.000 And I don't like the idea of anybody being manipulated in that situation.

00:40:34.000 And there's a lot of people out there Who want to hate another group.

00:40:37.000 And this gives a lot of fodder and a lot of reason for that to happen.

00:40:40.000 And it's a great way for people to take down Trump, too.

00:40:43.000 So, that's the problem.

00:40:45.000 It's a great resource.

00:40:46.000 This is a human being who's struggling mentally, and now you're taking him to hate each other, go at somebody.

00:40:53.000 It's wrong on every level, in my opinion.

00:40:55.000 And don't allow yourself to be galvanized by Kanye West and these people around him if they're actively trying to destroy him.

00:41:00.000 Or, at best, at best.

00:41:03.000 Um, they couldn't care less about Kanye West.

00:41:06.000 At best.

00:41:07.000 At best.

00:41:08.000 At worst, they're using him as a pawn to enact the revenge that they specified, ad nauseum, they were seeking against Donald Trump.

00:41:15.000 In December of 2020.

00:41:16.000 This was not long ago.

00:41:16.000 Yes.

00:41:18.000 Yes, and it has been reiterated many times.

00:41:20.000 Even if you like some of the things that Kanye has said, and I get it, conservatives, unfortunately, there's this culture of celebrity worship because you're looking for some transcendent political figure or some cultural figure to save you, and this is a problem.

00:41:31.000 Look, this is a problem with our movement.

00:41:32.000 And this is a problem with a lot of backroom deals that take place and a lot of these conservative entities that exist.

00:41:38.000 Guess what?

00:41:39.000 There's no bench.

00:41:40.000 They can't build stars.

00:41:42.000 It's not possible.

00:41:43.000 And so they go, ooh, ooh, Nicki Minaj!

00:41:45.000 Ooh, Kanye West!

00:41:46.000 Ooh, Scott Baio!

00:41:47.000 Why?

00:41:48.000 Because Fox News hasn't created a star in years!

00:41:51.000 They're not able to do it.

00:41:52.000 They don't understand, culturally, what's relevant.

00:41:55.000 And so they're clinging to Kanye West, and I think putting blinders on, to the exploitation that is taking place.

00:42:01.000 So it really does... I'd love to hear your thoughts below.

00:42:05.000 I do come from a place of empathy.

00:42:06.000 I think that he's doing damage, and I think he's being used to do more damage, but my heart does go out to him.

00:42:10.000 I do think that he needs some help, and I don't think that he's probably...

00:42:15.000 I don't think he's a hateful person in his heart of hearts.

00:42:17.000 I think he's not particularly articulate.

00:42:18.000 I think he's an artist.

00:42:19.000 He's not a speaker.

00:42:20.000 And I think he's been wronged and he's just sort of going off like a claymore.

00:42:23.000 I agree with you.

00:42:24.000 And I think spreading any sort of anti-Semitism rhetoric, I think that's wrong.

00:42:31.000 I think that spreading hate's wrong.

00:42:32.000 But it's not even that he's doing that.

00:42:33.000 I think that it's the fact that other people see that he's kind of getting there.

00:42:37.000 Then if you put more words into the ear of somebody who's broken and go, this is where you target the blame.

00:42:42.000 You're training somebody to speak and to say, that's why he's not very clear in his thoughts when he's talking.

00:42:46.000 Right.

00:42:47.000 And that's why the whole thing seems very, very shady from the get go.

00:42:51.000 I mean, it's all very bizarre.

00:42:53.000 And like you said, the whole dinner does seem like a setup.

00:42:58.000 That's exactly what someone who will ban me from PayPal would say.

00:43:00.000 Huh?

00:43:01.000 You take away my Venmo?

00:43:02.000 Huh?

00:43:03.000 Apple Pay?

00:43:05.000 All my payment methods.

00:43:06.000 I use Cash App.

00:43:07.000 Oh, I didn't use Cash App yet.

00:43:09.000 I do direct.

00:43:10.000 You're doing wire transfers?

00:43:10.000 I do.

00:43:11.000 Bank of Kanye, huh?

00:43:13.000 Now you're just naming payment methods.

00:43:15.000 That's what I do.

00:43:16.000 I need to start a bank.

00:43:17.000 What are you, some kind of Jew?

00:43:20.000 No, I just, I'm fine.

00:43:22.000 Bank of Kanye, we don't have day here.

00:43:25.000 He walked in, this is a thing.

00:43:27.000 He was wronged, for example, with Chase Bank.

00:43:28.000 I don't know all the stories, but they basically de-platformed with a bank.

00:43:31.000 And is it, what's his name, Diamond?

00:43:33.000 Jamie Dimon.

00:43:33.000 Jamie Dimon, but I think he might have actually walked in, like Jamie Dimon, who's I believe head of Chase.

00:43:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:39.000 In New York, his word.

00:43:40.000 In New York.

00:43:41.000 And I think Kanye just walked into a bank like, I want to talk with Jamie Dimon, huh?

00:43:46.000 Like he's not here.

00:43:47.000 That's exactly what a Jew would say. 0.99

00:43:48.000 You know, he's in the back.

00:43:49.000 Get him in the back.

00:43:50.000 I want to talk to him in the back.

00:43:52.000 He's not here.

00:43:53.000 He's just on 138th Broadway.

00:43:56.000 They're like, uh, we have two people working.

00:43:58.000 He's talking into the tube and putting in a little suction.

00:44:02.000 Get me Jamie!

00:44:05.000 I know you heard me.

00:44:06.000 I seen it.

00:44:07.000 So you're setting an empty tube.

00:44:08.000 Now open it and put your ear to it like a seashell.

00:44:10.000 Yes!

00:44:15.000 I hope he distances himself.

00:44:16.000 I really do.

00:44:17.000 The people you said in this movement, there's a lot of people that quote-unquote are in this movement.

00:44:22.000 I wouldn't associate a lot of people with what we are trying to do necessarily, what the conservative movement is or the Republican Party is trying to do, that say they are a part of the movement.

00:44:31.000 So I hope he distances himself from stuff like that.

00:44:34.000 And I hope Donald Trump does a better job of screening next time and making sure he understands who he's keeping company with.

00:44:39.000 Well, what ends up happening, too, is this ends up sort of commandeering the fight that we all have, you know, as far as preserving free speech and Elon Musk and the things that matter when this isn't necessarily what this is about.

00:44:49.000 This is about people who are maybe exploiting someone, people who are maybe being dishonest.

00:44:52.000 That's not the same thing as speaking freely.

00:44:54.000 And by the way, I think that Kanye should be allowed to speak freely.

00:44:56.000 He should be allowed to dismiss his ideas.

00:44:58.000 I completely agree with that.

00:45:00.000 But don't confuse Dismissing or disagreeing with an idea that has been spoken freely with a lack of free speech.

00:45:07.000 And I think you have some people on the right who think that if someone says something controversial and you say, well, you know, I don't agree with that.

00:45:13.000 You must be working for the establishment to silence them.

00:45:15.000 And that's exactly what these bad.

00:45:17.000 Actors are trying to perpetuate.

00:45:18.000 By the way, speaking of which, we'll get to Elon Musk and Apple.

00:45:21.000 That's the big story here of the day.

00:45:22.000 It's a live show Monday through Thursday at 10 a.m.

00:45:25.000 Eastern.

00:45:25.000 You can watch.

00:45:25.000 Nothing would make me happier than everyone right now on YouTube switching to Rumble, right?

00:45:29.000 This is the deal.

00:45:29.000 You want to have a tectonic shift of what's happening online?

00:45:33.000 Don't be dependent on the social media ghettos that are Facebook.

00:45:37.000 Twitter used to be.

00:45:37.000 We'll see what happens with that, but certainly YouTube, Instagram, right?

00:45:41.000 You have an opportunity right now.

00:45:43.000 Go over and watch it on Rumble and certainly on Mug Club.

00:45:44.000 We'll be playing bad movie lines.

00:45:45.000 You do not have to be dependent on YouTube, but many of you choose to be.

00:45:48.000 We leave the choice to you, the people!

00:45:52.000 And don't worry, Tillman, we'll just pop that in tomorrow.

00:45:54.000 I know you're looking for a little bit... I'm just pissed off that we installed that balcony.

00:45:59.000 Okay, Gerald, do you have any more thoughts?

00:46:01.000 No, not that I can air.

00:46:02.000 Okay.

00:46:05.000 I like Kanye, I'll say that.

00:46:07.000 I think he's in trouble.

00:46:08.000 He's in some trouble right now.

00:46:11.000 I'm not black.

00:46:11.000 Did I get your kid out of balcony, Suge Knight?

00:46:14.000 I think he's in trouble.

00:46:15.000 Yeah.

00:46:16.000 He's in some trouble right now.

00:46:17.000 He'd be hilarious if Gerald converted.

00:46:19.000 I'm not black. 0.96

00:46:20.000 He's just an anti-dentite. 0.98

00:46:21.000 Yes.

00:46:22.000 Well, today, we're all anti-dentite.

00:46:25.000 He doesn't look Jewish.

00:46:26.000 That's odd.

00:46:27.000 So, this is something, we've talked about this in the past, there's a little bit of remedial, but it's because I really want to drive this point home and there are some new developments.

00:46:35.000 We all know, okay, Elon Musk, Twitter.

00:46:37.000 Alright.

00:46:39.000 Good.

00:46:39.000 Elon Musk now has control over Twitter.

00:46:41.000 You look at the list of billionaires, there's one exception here as far as their, I wouldn't even say political affiliation, but I guess their way of viewing the world.

00:46:50.000 It's dogmatic for everyone else, and the top 1.1, the top 1% of the 1% of the 1% of the 1%, I don't know, I'm not necessarily a math guy.

00:46:59.000 Neither's Kanye.

00:46:59.000 No one here is.

00:47:00.000 We really should have one math person.

00:47:01.000 We should.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, probably.

00:47:02.000 The best of the best.

00:47:04.000 And Elon Musk is an exception.

00:47:06.000 So, what do we have now?

00:47:07.000 We have this administration, this White House, targeting Elon Musk, calling to action all of the other powerful billionaire tech oligarchs to silence him, and this comes on the heels of some news regarding Apple and what they're doing with Elon.

00:47:21.000 But here is Jean-Pierre being asked about Elon Musk and Twitter and I saw this last night.

00:47:29.000 It is chilling if you understand what is being said.

00:47:32.000 There's a researcher at Stanford who says that this is a critical moment, really, in terms of ensuring that Twitter does not become a vector for misinformation.

00:47:43.000 I mean, are you concerned about, you know, Elon Musk says there's more and more subscribers coming online.

00:47:53.000 Are you concerned about that?

00:47:54.000 And what tools do you have?

00:47:56.000 Who is it at the White House that is really keeping track of this?

00:48:00.000 So look, this is something that we're certainly keeping an eye on.

00:48:04.000 And look, we have always been very clear that when it comes to social media platforms, it is their responsibility.

00:48:16.000 Here it comes.

00:48:17.000 Ah, there's the broad term.

00:48:18.000 Hate.

00:48:18.000 Define it.

00:48:19.000 I hate that.

00:48:20.000 Monitoring hate.

00:48:20.000 we when it comes to the hate that we're seeing.

00:48:23.000 Ah, there's the broad term.

00:48:24.000 Hate.

00:48:25.000 Hate.

00:48:26.000 Define it.

00:48:27.000 We're all keeping a close eye on this.

00:48:29.000 We're all monitoring what's currently occurring.

00:48:34.000 And we see, you know, we see it with our own eyes of what we're all reporting. 0.57

00:48:40.000 She's immoral! 1.00

00:48:41.000 Ah, there's the switch. 0.95

00:48:41.000 Hey! 0.95

00:48:41.000 Government plays an important role. 0.95

00:48:43.000 Tell me about Section 230.

00:48:44.000 have a responsibility to prevent their platforms from being used by any user to incite violence,

00:48:51.000 especially violence directed at individual communities.

00:48:54.000 There's the switch.

00:48:55.000 The president has been very clear on calling that out.

00:48:59.000 He'll continue to do that and we're going to continue to monitor the situation.

00:49:03.000 Hey, government plays an important role.

00:49:04.000 Tell me about section 230.

00:49:07.000 Tell me about the protections afforded to these companies like as though they are a

00:49:10.000 public utility.

00:49:11.000 So that they are protected from liability as opposed to a publisher.

00:49:13.000 They want it both ways, and she uses this broad term, misinformation, who determines misinformation, then hate, and then circles that into inciting violence.

00:49:22.000 And I just heard someone on CNN yesterday!

00:49:24.000 Use this lazy argument, well, you know, freedom of speech, you're never actually free to say what you want.

00:49:29.000 You can't yell fire in a crowded theater. 0.96

00:49:30.000 Who got this shitty talking point? 0.98

00:49:32.000 I run into it all the time. 0.99

00:49:33.000 You can yell fire in a crowded theater if there's a fire!

00:49:37.000 It's not the speech that's outlawed, it's if you're lying and you create a stampede and there's no fire!

00:49:42.000 You are allowed!

00:49:44.000 Also, there's the idea of private property.

00:49:47.000 If you're in someone's house, of course you have to acquiesce to their rules.

00:49:50.000 If you're in someone's cineplex, it's the laziest argument that they can possibly make.

00:49:54.000 Just like right here, they say, you know, misinformation, hate, and therefore equate it with violence.

00:49:59.000 Violence is not legal!

00:50:01.000 Exactly.

00:50:01.000 Hate is.

00:50:02.000 It might be disgusting.

00:50:04.000 It might be disgusting.

00:50:06.000 But it is legal.

00:50:06.000 Let's pay attention to this specific portion of Ranch.

00:50:08.000 I want to read it again.

00:50:09.000 Well, that she is reading, though, really bothers me.

00:50:12.000 Yes.

00:50:12.000 Because that means the whole thing was set up for her to let everybody know you're being watched.

00:50:15.000 You've always been bothered by literacy.

00:50:16.000 Wait, you think these questions are not prepared in advance?

00:50:19.000 I'm not even kidding.

00:50:20.000 By the way, they submit their questions.

00:50:21.000 Oh, I know they're prepared in advance, but it's just she makes it so obvious, like when I host.

00:50:28.000 Really?

00:50:29.000 Look, I could still answer better than that.

00:50:31.000 Yes, you absolutely could.

00:50:32.000 I'd be like, I don't know this stuff.

00:50:34.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:50:35.000 What's your problem?

00:50:36.000 Yeah, what's your problem?

00:50:37.000 What are you, a ghost?

00:50:38.000 You gonna rattle the cupboards?

00:50:39.000 Can we show that lady again asking the question? 0.99

00:50:40.000 Just to bring it up.

00:50:41.000 We don't need you necessarily here, but a screen grab.

00:50:43.000 Hey, where's Wayne?

00:50:45.000 Look, she's... Yeah, that lady's about to rattle the bed frame. 1.00

00:50:48.000 Sucking woo She's a hundred. I'm surprised jump here didn't go full 1.00

00:50:52.000 David Blaine like That actual plasmids wearing glasses

00:51:01.000 She just pulls out a card deck.

00:51:03.000 Pick a card.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, she does a coin trick. 1.00

00:51:10.000 It's all over.

00:51:12.000 All right, it's not being pulled out of an ear.

00:51:13.000 So here, this is the quote from KJP.

00:51:19.000 You know, we have always been very clear and that when it comes to social media platforms, it is their responsibility to make sure that when it comes to misinformation, when we, when it comes to the hate that we're seeing, that they take action, that they continue to take action.

00:51:33.000 Okay, I'd love to see your comments below.

00:51:35.000 Question.

00:51:37.000 Yeah, who decides what is misinformation?

00:51:39.000 Yeah.

00:51:40.000 Who decides what is hate?

00:51:41.000 For a while it was the CDC, it was the WHO, which is ironic because the WHO determined what would be classified as misinformation while they were actively hating Taiwan by denying its existence.

00:51:53.000 Well, the WHO said that the CDC was spreading misinformation at one point because they disagreed.

00:51:59.000 And by the way, they were both probably right.

00:52:01.000 Yes.

00:52:01.000 Can we, by the way, can we just sit for a minute in awe of that sentence, her quote?

00:52:06.000 Which one?

00:52:08.000 That was written down for her.

00:52:09.000 That was!

00:52:10.000 It was written down, and she screwed it up that bad.

00:52:12.000 When we come to, it comes, and we, and I think he, and we will continue to, it's just like, can we get somebody?

00:52:19.000 Your job is to speak.

00:52:20.000 Why you gotta be racist?

00:52:21.000 I'm not racist.

00:52:23.000 It's not even that incognito, though.

00:52:24.000 I'm not sexist, racist, antisemite, nothing.

00:52:25.000 I'm just saying, be able to speak.

00:52:27.000 Yes.

00:52:28.000 Please.

00:52:28.000 You're the spokesperson.

00:52:29.000 Okay, so it's not so much that she's a female or that she's black, it's that she's an idiot. 1.00

00:52:33.000 Nailed it. 1.00

00:52:34.000 Good.

00:52:34.000 Okay.

00:52:34.000 I think we're on the same page.

00:52:35.000 I like that.

00:52:36.000 You judge people on the individual qualities.

00:52:38.000 Right. 1.00

00:52:39.000 And I particularly have a disdain for idiots, black and yellow, red and white. 1.00

00:52:43.000 They're all morons in our sight. 1.00

00:52:45.000 Right. 1.00

00:52:46.000 Okay.

00:52:48.000 So by the way, thanks to the October report by The Intercept, we also know that the DHS, the FBI, are actively colluding with Big Tech.

00:52:55.000 Remember a long time ago, it was Jen Psaki saying, we hope that Spotify, and then insert, you know, how they wanted to censor Rogan here, we now know beyond any shadow of a doubt that they're colluding with Big Tech.

00:53:04.000 This is the thing, at one point in time, the government determined winners and losers, and it was the enforcing arm Was big business sort of in the Industrial Revolution, that's where power was consolidated as we sort of transformed from a largely agriculturally based society.

00:53:19.000 We now have a flip where really it is a few businesses that control 90% of your life and the enforcing arm is the government.

00:53:29.000 They are doing the bidding for these big tech platforms.

00:53:31.000 Those are the organizations that wield more power than any government on earth.

00:53:36.000 And our government is in their pocket.

00:53:38.000 Hit the like button if you have a problem with this because while we're talking about this right now, the algorithms want to tell you that we are dead on YouTube.

00:53:45.000 Here's something else.

00:53:46.000 I don't know if you remember this.

00:53:47.000 According to that report, actually, I think, yeah, we have an overlay.

00:53:50.000 The Microsoft executive, Matt Masterson, texted Jen Easterly, the DHS director.

00:53:57.000 Platforms have got to get comfortable with government.

00:53:59.000 It's really interesting how hesitant they remain.

00:54:02.000 Hey, hold on a second.

00:54:03.000 I actually, this is a fundamental worldview difference.

00:54:05.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.52

00:54:05.000 I believe that what are supposed to be open platforms should be as uncomfortable as humanly fucking possible with government. 0.52

00:54:15.000 To begin with. 0.66

00:54:16.000 Those are just the ABCs and me.

00:54:20.000 Why don't we start from the point of what good has come with starting off comfortable and trusting of government?

00:54:29.000 Certainly not this country.

00:54:32.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:54:32.000 The shock that these guys have that I can't believe they won't just trust us.

00:54:37.000 Have you read any of the news?

00:54:38.000 Do you see anything in the last year of why we wouldn't trust the government to do what's right in every situation?

00:54:46.000 We're going to get to a little bit more of it with the railroads and pushing that beyond the election.

00:54:49.000 There is nobody who's gotten a shot that's deeply concerned right now.

00:54:53.000 None?

00:54:53.000 No.

00:54:54.000 I haven't talked to them personally where they're like, uh-oh.

00:54:54.000 No.

00:54:58.000 Are we back to the MLK Malcolm X?

00:54:59.000 Yes.

00:55:00.000 I don't know which one I'm more like.

00:55:01.000 Yes, I don't know.

00:55:02.000 I'm like Gandhi.

00:55:04.000 Yes. 0.99

00:55:04.000 If Gandhi was dick. 0.99

00:55:06.000 Almost. 0.99

00:55:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:55:09.000 No hunger strike for me. 1.00

00:55:10.000 That was a bitch move. 1.00

00:55:12.000 Did a lot of good. 0.99

00:55:13.000 I feel like the guy who set himself on fire in Tiananmen Square.

00:55:17.000 I don't know why, I just do.

00:55:19.000 Look, we're all on fire for something.

00:55:19.000 Yeah, well, you know what?

00:55:21.000 We're flammable.

00:55:22.000 I just feel like going to hell.

00:55:26.000 I feel like I'm in hell right now.

00:55:27.000 Me too.

00:55:27.000 So here's the thing.

00:55:30.000 The administration right now, and by the way, there are cronies of course in big tech, they are terrified, as it relates to Elon Musk, of one person they cannot control.

00:55:40.000 They have been so in control of the narrative for so long with, I mean completely unfettered, That the mere notion of Elon Musk allowing people from both the left and the right, we're not talking about Elon Musk removing people from the left.

00:55:55.000 In other words, you have all those other platforms that the left is allowed and people on the right are throttled or they are banned.

00:56:01.000 We've experienced this directly.

00:56:02.000 You can go back and watch, I don't know, pick a week, any week, whether we're banned from Facebook that week, used to be Twitter, certainly YouTube, we know this.

00:56:10.000 All Elon Musk is saying is allow both sides.

00:56:13.000 to have a seat at the table. So what happens? You just heard that from the White House. You just

00:56:17.000 heard that from Jean-Pierre. I thought Jean-Pierre was on CNN out of the corner of my eye, but it's

00:56:20.000 not. It's just a guy. Soccer player. It's just the corner of my eye. It's not that everyone with the

00:56:24.000 hair looks... It's just that I saw that and I said, oh, Jean-Pierre is speaking right now. No,

00:56:28.000 it turns out it's a gay soccer player. Okay. So yes. 0.97

00:56:32.000 Yes.

00:56:33.000 The first straight soccer player.

00:56:34.000 Wow.

00:56:35.000 The White House can't control Elon themselves.

00:56:38.000 They're not powerful enough.

00:56:39.000 But other companies are.

00:56:40.000 That's the dog whistle.

00:56:42.000 So, Elon Musk tweeted this out.

00:56:43.000 I have no reason to not believe him.

00:56:45.000 Apple apparently is considering removing Twitter from the App Store.

00:56:51.000 That's also important to note.

00:56:53.000 He also, by the way, Musk retweeted a post by the blockchain publisher library that claimed Apple censored its material.

00:57:00.000 Something else, let's be really clear about this.

00:57:02.000 We don't know if this is entirely true.

00:57:03.000 We're hearing this from Elon Musk.

00:57:04.000 We do know that Apple has pulled advertising from Twitter.

00:57:06.000 That part can be confirmed.

00:57:08.000 I don't know if they're threatening to pull him from the Apple Store.

00:57:10.000 I haven't heard anything from Tim Cook yet.

00:57:12.000 But, you have to go with the information that is available.

00:57:15.000 Let's go to the tale of the tape.

00:57:16.000 Apple, their history.

00:57:18.000 In 2021, Apple, along with Google, completely banned Parler from its App Store.

00:57:23.000 Just to be clear.

00:57:23.000 Yeah.

00:57:24.000 Do you remember when Parler was the next big thing?

00:57:27.000 All Apple has to do is make that threat.

00:57:28.000 Earlier on with Uber, they did the same thing.

00:57:30.000 Now, Uber was doing some stuff that they shouldn't have been doing.

00:57:32.000 But they threatened to remove them from the Apple Store.

00:57:35.000 That will get CEOs fired. 1.00

00:57:36.000 That will get boards motivated to change in the company.

00:57:39.000 Or it will get people's companies to crumble to the ground because they depend on the App Store to be in the public view.

00:57:44.000 And we'll get to the numbers.

00:57:45.000 The numbers are shocking.

00:57:46.000 You need the advertisers.

00:57:48.000 You need the advertisers and you need to be available on the App Store.

00:57:51.000 Absolutely.

00:57:51.000 And you don't just give somebody a U2 album.

00:57:54.000 Right.

00:57:55.000 Well, it's not so much give as thrust it upon you.

00:57:57.000 They forced it on us.

00:57:57.000 Well, that's what I mean.

00:57:59.000 It's for them to take Twitter away.

00:58:00.000 It makes no sense.

00:58:01.000 Do you have any idea how embarrassing that was?

00:58:03.000 I open up my phone and it's bomb.

00:58:04.000 Hello?

00:58:05.000 And it's like, hey, what are you doing? 1.00

00:58:06.000 It's just, it's just gay porn! 1.00

00:58:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:58:11.000 That's not the edge, is it?

00:58:13.000 No!

00:58:13.000 It's a snuff film!

00:58:15.000 Apple still hasn't answered for that yet.

00:58:17.000 No, they still haven't answered for that.

00:58:18.000 And now you're out there making threats?

00:58:20.000 Yeah.

00:58:20.000 Come on now.

00:58:21.000 You still owe us one. 0.92

00:58:22.000 That's just like a... That is the modern equivalent to a dirty bomb. 0.74

00:58:25.000 It is.

00:58:26.000 That's how you destroy civilizations from within. 0.97

00:58:28.000 I would have rather done sex stuff. 0.98

00:58:30.000 Yep.

00:58:30.000 Well, you did it anyway, but they're unrelated.

00:58:32.000 Well, yeah, that's true.

00:58:33.000 So, 2021, they banned Parler from the App Store.

00:58:35.000 Okay.

00:58:36.000 Then, you also have to take into account that, hey, alright, they banned them because of hate speech, right?

00:58:41.000 They're against hate.

00:58:43.000 They're against extremists.

00:58:44.000 Well, okay, that would hold water if Apple didn't also do the bidding of communist dictatorships of authoritarian regimes.

00:58:51.000 Here you have recently, in October 2022, Apple disabled the automatic airdrop function on iPhones in China.

00:58:57.000 It's an automatic, right now, if you have an iPhone, Go.

00:59:00.000 You can airdrop.

00:59:01.000 It's built in.

00:59:01.000 Yeah.

00:59:02.000 They had to proactively disable it in order to align themselves with the communist Chinese government.

00:59:09.000 Yes.

00:59:10.000 Apple hates the Chinese people and loves the CCP. 0.98

00:59:13.000 Right.

00:59:13.000 And some people right now are posting that as though that happened in relation to these protests.

00:59:17.000 No, it was a guy holding a sign up basically calling for the removal of the president Xi Jinping.

00:59:22.000 And they did that just for that one thing, not the protests that are going on right now.

00:59:26.000 It's even worse.

00:59:27.000 Right?

00:59:28.000 The way that protesters, and I asked this question yesterday.

00:59:28.000 Right.

00:59:30.000 Actually, we have an overlay of that guy, the banner.

00:59:32.000 Overlay B6, the removal of Xi Jinping.

00:59:34.000 Yeah, right there.

00:59:35.000 I was wondering how these guys were communicating because China has such strict control over media and how people are interested.

00:59:40.000 You were asking that?

00:59:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:59:41.000 I asked this yesterday.

00:59:42.000 They were airdropping stuff to each other.

00:59:43.000 That's how some of this information was getting out.

00:59:45.000 Plus, we know that they're tech savvy.

00:59:47.000 They can get around some of these rules.

00:59:49.000 But now you have no ability to do that.

00:59:51.000 Apple is basically saying, yeah, I know this is going on, but now you don't have the ability to keep No, no, no, no, no.

00:59:56.000 Parler is a much greater threat than Xi Jinping.

01:00:00.000 How many Uyghurs have the CEOs of Parler killed? 1.00

01:00:03.000 Oh gosh.

01:00:03.000 Well, they're getting around to it.

01:00:04.000 I'd say upwards of zero.

01:00:06.000 No.

01:00:06.000 Yeah.

01:00:07.000 You know what?

01:00:07.000 It's a rounding error.

01:00:08.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:00:10.000 I'm just glad that they stand by what they believe.

01:00:12.000 Yes, exactly.

01:00:14.000 It's Elon Musk, you know.

01:00:15.000 That's the evil right there.

01:00:17.000 The guy who moved his facilities to Texas.

01:00:19.000 Also, we have in August 2021, Apple banned the anti-government engravings in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan.

01:00:25.000 Again, are you noticing the pattern here?

01:00:27.000 When they always line up on the side of Why?

01:00:30.000 Because they can continue to keep a good portion of the population of China subjugated. 0.97

01:00:34.000 They benefit.

01:00:36.000 The people of China don't. 0.78

01:00:37.000 Hey, Apple benefits.

01:00:39.000 Hey, Meta, Google, they benefit.

01:00:42.000 You don't, when you don't have access to information, when you don't have access to opinions, when you don't have access to educational resources.

01:00:48.000 They benefit at your expense.

01:00:50.000 And that's when you realize that this is no longer a government for the people by the people, because they seek to benefit companies like Apple.

01:00:56.000 And not just Apple.

01:00:58.000 Let's just get into the larger problem here.

01:00:59.000 And this is really, this is why when people say, who do you think is going to be the Republican candidate?

01:01:03.000 Not that I don't care.

01:01:05.000 It's not nearly as relevant though.

01:01:07.000 As this consolidation of power with really five companies.

01:01:12.000 If you want to be very generous, ten.

01:01:15.000 So let's look at just a handful of companies that control the entire flow of information outside of, recently, Elon Musk.

01:01:22.000 So you've got Jeff Bezos at Amazon.

01:01:24.000 You've got Sundar Pichai, I think that's how it's pronounced, and Susan Wojcicki, that's Google and YouTube.

01:01:29.000 You have, number three, Zuckerberg, Facebook and Meta.

01:01:32.000 Then you have Tim Cook.

01:01:34.000 What am I at?

01:01:35.000 Number four.

01:01:35.000 Now, Tim Cook at Apple, and then you have Bill Gates, Microsoft.

01:01:39.000 That's five people!

01:01:40.000 That's five people!

01:01:42.000 Let me ask you, especially if something like Parlor is removed from the App Store, God forbid they try and do something like that with a place like Rumble, okay?

01:01:50.000 If those people decide in unison, And in tandem, they say, hey, you know what?

01:01:54.000 We don't like this opinion.

01:01:55.000 We're going to get rid of this person.

01:01:56.000 Like, I don't know, they did with Donald Trump.

01:01:58.000 With Alex Jones.

01:02:00.000 With a sitting president, Donald Trump.

01:02:01.000 If they decide that, where are you going to get the information?

01:02:04.000 It's not even just a monopoly.

01:02:06.000 It's that these people all work together, and right now you are seeing them work together in real time to try and eliminate their one competitor, Elon Musk.

01:02:14.000 That is ball-retractingly scary.

01:02:17.000 And if you don't believe me, here's Steve Jobs' wife, who, by the way, very fetching. 0.99

01:02:20.000 He did well for himself, despite being a dick. 0.96

01:02:23.000 Lauren Powell Jobs talking about the cultural narrative. 0.94

01:02:26.000 It was pretty obvious to me that we could build, you know, we build out in a very cross-disciplinary way our work, you know, capital investing and policy and philanthropy, and we could do this work forever and ever, and we could have the narrative So she can do it forever.

01:02:50.000 Children's blood packs.

01:02:51.000 I'm joking. 0.99

01:02:51.000 My husband's in hell. 0.99

01:02:52.000 someone who's my husband's in power, who's completely contrary to us.

01:02:57.000 And we could never get to the place where we think we're part of a more just and equal

01:03:03.000 society.

01:03:04.000 And so it was obvious that if we could be part of the creation of cultural narrative,

01:03:14.000 that would enhance and amplify all the work that we're doing.

01:03:18.000 Which is Hillary Clinton talked about today is telling the story, getting the content 0.95

01:03:21.000 out there.

01:03:22.000 And I think that's what we're doing.

01:03:38.000 By the way, she's a stakeholder.

01:03:40.000 Apple, Disney, the Atlantic, just to be clear.

01:03:42.000 Hey, hold on a second.

01:03:44.000 If you can create narratives, I thought your job was to build phones and like computers that are somewhat see-through that kind of look like a messenger bag.

01:03:51.000 Remember those were fun.

01:03:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:03:52.000 But no, they said create narratives by getting the story out.

01:03:56.000 No, no, no.

01:03:56.000 You want a story out.

01:03:58.000 That's it.

01:03:59.000 And suppress the stories you don't like.

01:04:01.000 Right, exactly.

01:04:01.000 Not everybody's story, not the truth, not what's actually going on in places like China.

01:04:05.000 You want your story out so that it doesn't mess with your profit.

01:04:08.000 Yeah, and Steve Jobs definitely didn't create the Good Father app.

01:04:11.000 No, no, he did not.

01:04:12.000 He would never let that in the story.

01:04:13.000 No.

01:04:14.000 It was also, by the way, it was a stand-in for The Good Son.

01:04:16.000 Really?

01:04:17.000 Oh, wow.

01:04:18.000 Tiny hands.

01:04:19.000 So, here's the thing.

01:04:21.000 Apple and Google, by the way... Easy to let go of.

01:04:24.000 They control 95% of the app market.

01:04:28.000 95%.

01:04:28.000 You just heard from her point of view how important it is to create these cultural shifts to control the narrative.

01:04:34.000 She has a stake in Apple, Disney, the Atlantic.

01:04:37.000 95% of the app store, or app market, sorry, is Apple and Google.

01:04:41.000 When we get to social media, big tech, 71% of people access their news from social media.

01:04:46.000 Wow.

01:04:47.000 And by the way, I'm pretty sure that is a low ball.

01:04:50.000 That's probably a low ball number, but this isn't like being able to play a game on your phone.

01:04:54.000 That's not what we're talking about.

01:04:55.000 Access to information is controlled by two companies right now.

01:04:58.000 That's it.

01:05:00.000 Well, Google and these guys?

01:05:01.000 On the App Store.

01:05:03.000 71% get it from it?

01:05:04.000 That's massive.

01:05:05.000 No, no.

01:05:06.000 71% get it from social media.

01:05:08.000 95% of the app market is controlled by two companies.

01:05:11.000 By two companies who, by the way, we know beyond any shadow of a doubt are complicit with this corrupt government.

01:05:16.000 It's not a conspiracy theory.

01:05:17.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 All of the references are available at ladderwithcredit.com.

01:05:20.000 Again, like I said, we really do try and seek truth, and we try and make it so that you can seek truth.

01:05:23.000 Go and check out the references.

01:05:25.000 Go and read these reports.

01:05:26.000 They're very long.

01:05:27.000 They're a dry read.

01:05:28.000 That's why we put them in this format in the show, because I know that many of you can't be bothered, because I hate having to read them.

01:05:34.000 We do it for you, though.

01:05:36.000 These companies, while we also talk about this, the great wealth transfer, you know Bernie Sanders, who by the way gets the support of a lot of these people in big tech, they want you to hate each other the top 1%.

01:05:45.000 Well guess what?

01:05:45.000 A lot of business owners, small business owners, they're in that top 1%.

01:05:49.000 When you're talking about this top marginal tax rate, joint household income, $400,000 according to this administration, which just so happens to be the exact salary of the White House.

01:05:56.000 On the flip side, let's talk about the wealth transfer from the middle class, because some old school conservatives in the baby boom generation maybe aren't aware of what has been happening right now.

01:06:05.000 It is true.

01:06:06.000 There's been a robbing of the middle class and upper middle class and I would even say upper upper middle class everyone from the lower middle class to making low to mid six figures.

01:06:16.000 That money is being transferred to five people five billionaires the top five billionaires during the pandemic.

01:06:23.000 saw their wealth grow by a total of 101 billion dollars.

01:06:27.000 That's 26 percent.

01:06:28.000 Yes.

01:06:28.000 Wow.

01:06:29.000 26 percent increase in their wealth.

01:06:31.000 Bezos and Zuckerberg alone, their combined wealth increased 76 billion dollars.

01:06:35.000 And by the way, these five companies that I just mentioned to you, together, guess how much they're worth?

01:06:40.000 A trillion?

01:06:42.000 6.3 trillion dollars.

01:06:43.000 Wow, seriously?

01:06:45.000 Wow.

01:06:45.000 You are not being subjugated by your government.

01:06:47.000 Your government is enforcing The whims of these companies.

01:06:52.000 And here's something else that's pretty important.

01:06:54.000 You saw Washington Post praising Apple for maybe removing Elon Musk's Twitter.

01:06:58.000 That's how they try and label it now, from the App Store.

01:07:00.000 You saw a bunch of media outlets praising this.

01:07:01.000 You saw Don Lemon on The Failing Morning Show talking about how this was a good thing.

01:07:05.000 Well, here's another wrinkle.

01:07:08.000 Who advertises?

01:07:10.000 When they say, oh look, the advertisers are pulling off Twitter.

01:07:15.000 I would like to advertise on Twitter.

01:07:16.000 This happened, remember, with Google and YouTube.

01:07:17.000 They wouldn't let us advertise anything, and they wouldn't let advertisers advertise on their show.

01:07:20.000 And I'm like, well, hold on a second.

01:07:21.000 I'm on both sides.

01:07:22.000 I would like to have these people advertise on my show.

01:07:24.000 I know there are a lot of advertisers who would like to advertise on my show.

01:07:27.000 You won't let them, and you won't let me advertise on their programming.

01:07:29.000 What is going on?

01:07:30.000 They're like, ah, we can't tell you that.

01:07:31.000 And I asked why they said, because you're a stranger.

01:07:36.000 So who runs the advertising?

01:07:37.000 They're polling!

01:07:38.000 Well, six companies.

01:07:40.000 Six corporations control 90% of media outlets.

01:07:43.000 What do you have?

01:07:44.000 You have Comcast, NBCUniversal, you have Viacom, you have CBS, which is CBS Paramount, gosh I'm trying to remember, you have ABC, Disney, then you have AT&T and you have News Corp.

01:07:56.000 So six corporations.

01:07:58.000 NBCUniversal, ABC Disney, CBS Viacom, AT&T, News Corp.

01:08:05.000 And hey, we all know that these people will de-platform one per- so what you get to say is, look, advertisers are pulling off of these platforms because it's six companies who decide to work with you because then you give them favorable advertising, uh, splits.

01:08:16.000 You give them fa- you just, you favor them as it relates to advertising peer.

01:08:19.000 We've seen this on YouTube, for example.

01:08:21.000 Remember Vox with the Vox Apocalypse?

01:08:22.000 What no one really told you is that Vox was working with NBC and Vox was producing a show, co-producing a show with YouTube, who then decided that we were going to be demonetized because Vox wanted us to be demonetized.

01:08:34.000 They control the advertising dollars, they control the app store, and this administration has made it clear that they are going to wield that power.

01:08:42.000 They are going to do their bidding.

01:08:44.000 Do you feel free?

01:08:46.000 You really think that you would take the power of Washington, D.C.? ?

01:08:49.000 Or the power of Silicon Valley?

01:08:51.000 Or Hollywood?

01:08:53.000 If that's the case, you need a CAT scan.

01:08:55.000 You need a CAT scan.

01:08:57.000 And do you know how you know it's not true?

01:08:58.000 How much time do you spend arguing about Donald Trump and DeSantis?

01:09:01.000 Right?

01:09:03.000 But what lights the news on fire?

01:09:05.000 Kanye West.

01:09:08.000 You guys all understand that culture is more important than politics, but you spend so much time in something that bears little significance as it relates to the fundamental changing, a new weaving of the tapestry of our society.

01:09:21.000 Five big tech companies.

01:09:23.000 Six media entities.

01:09:25.000 One administration.

01:09:26.000 Dog whistling.

01:09:27.000 Yeah, so one of the things Elon Musk said about Twitter is that you have to disconnect it from being dependent on advertisers.

01:09:33.000 Because of this very problem.

01:09:34.000 Right.

01:09:35.000 Because it will make you censor your content in a way maybe that you shouldn't.

01:09:38.000 And he is a big free speech advocate.

01:09:40.000 I know he's not perfect in that regard.

01:09:41.000 There's some stuff we need to kind of still work on.

01:09:43.000 But he's pushing for free speech.

01:09:45.000 He said if it dies in America, that's the beginning of the end.

01:09:47.000 Like he understands the problem.

01:09:49.000 Right.

01:09:49.000 And he's trying to get free from these people.

01:09:50.000 Because think about it this way.

01:09:52.000 If you don't say and do the right things as a company, these guys are going to sic the

01:09:57.000 liberal rage mob on you and these advertisers are going to start feeling the, or sorry,

01:10:02.000 not the advertisers, the companies that are advertising, you're going to start feeling

01:10:04.000 it in their bottom line and investors get pissed off and people lose their jobs.

01:10:08.000 That's exactly what's going on here.

01:10:10.000 You and I talked about this.

01:10:11.000 Stuff that trends isn't stuff that is trending.

01:10:15.000 It's stuff that they want to trend a lot of times.

01:10:17.000 You see something with 25,000 tweets trending and something with 200,000 tweets not trending, right?

01:10:23.000 So you're being pushed information into your face.

01:10:26.000 These companies have so much control and by coupling with the advertisers they can make or break your company.

01:10:32.000 All they have to do is remove you.

01:10:33.000 Look at our stores.

01:10:34.000 And then tripling with the government.

01:10:35.000 You can't even sell a shirt that doesn't say a bad word!

01:10:38.000 Yeah, I know, that's right.

01:10:39.000 You can't even sell a shirt!

01:10:39.000 Yeah, we got removed from Shopify, the PayPal, every single company.

01:10:42.000 We've been dealing with this for a very, very long time.

01:10:44.000 You can go back to 2009 with me with a blue bedsheet.

01:10:47.000 Yeah, Dave, sorry.

01:10:48.000 No, no, I was just saying, it just seems to create a subservient class of voters.

01:10:52.000 I mean, really, people who think they're voting at this point.

01:10:55.000 I mean, there's no... I just try to find the logic in it.

01:10:59.000 It's not there.

01:11:00.000 Well, it's because it's ideologically driven.

01:11:01.000 Because it's power.

01:11:02.000 It's power, exactly.

01:11:02.000 And all it is, is power.

01:11:05.000 That fact is crazy.

01:11:07.000 I've heard that before, but somehow I forgot it.

01:11:09.000 That six corporations control all the information that's published.

01:11:11.000 But the scarier part is they're all of the same agenda.

01:11:14.000 Yes.

01:11:14.000 And that's the thing that is most terrifying.

01:11:17.000 And they want you to believe that all of America... By the way, you're talking about well over three million votes.

01:11:21.000 Republicans won in the most recent election.

01:11:23.000 Let's say this.

01:11:24.000 At the worst case scenario, it's a split.

01:11:27.000 It's not 90-10, but the people who decide what you see are 90-10.

01:11:31.000 Let me ask you this, because I've lived this.

01:11:34.000 It's 50-50 with all that stuff being kicked out of the app store, with Parler, with everything being taken down.

01:11:39.000 That's pretty amazing, considering a lot of people must still have some morals.

01:11:42.000 Imagine if they allowed equal time. 0.64

01:11:44.000 Crazy!

01:11:45.000 Hey, what happened to the Fairness Doctrine?

01:11:47.000 Remember that?

01:11:47.000 That was only to do with AM radio because they didn't like that Rush was doing so well.

01:11:50.000 They didn't like that they only had ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN.

01:11:53.000 And they said, oh, hold on a second, Rush has too big of an audience.

01:11:55.000 We need the government to guarantee equal time.

01:11:57.000 Now when it relates to the internet, hey, where are you guys?

01:12:00.000 Where are you guys in asking for fairness?

01:12:02.000 And by the way, I don't think that the government should determine what is fair because we see what they're doing now.

01:12:07.000 They are determining what is hate.

01:12:08.000 Let's use logic here for a second.

01:12:10.000 When they say, look, all the advertisers are pulling.

01:12:13.000 Okay.

01:12:13.000 Do you understand, for example, that the advertisers, let's say, On Don Lemon's podcast.

01:12:20.000 I believe everyone has a podcast, I'm sure he does.

01:12:24.000 Would it stand to reason that his advertisers would be diametrically opposed to the worldview of the advertisers on this show?

01:12:31.000 Meaning, Walther, Good Ranchers, they're very likely clear, they're very likely not advertising on Dunn-Lemon Show.

01:12:37.000 Why?

01:12:37.000 Because you have half the country, less than half, and then you have this half of the country.

01:12:41.000 So, if a portion of advertisers are pulling because they don't like that there are, I wouldn't even say conservatives, but they don't like that the platform is open and more free.

01:12:51.000 How is there not another class of advertisers who would want to step in?

01:12:54.000 This is the conversation that we had with YouTube, right? 0.94

01:12:56.000 Where I said, hey look, you guys say that no advertisers want to be associated with my channel, which is basic bitch pumpkin spice conservatism, let's be honest. 0.79

01:13:04.000 What about firearm companies?

01:13:07.000 What about hunting companies?

01:13:09.000 Bass Pro?

01:13:11.000 What about coffee companies that aren't lined up with Starbucks?

01:13:14.000 Well, we've had to go after our own sponsors.

01:13:16.000 And by the way, many of these sponsors are not allowed to advertise on YouTube.

01:13:19.000 And if they are, they're not allowed to advertise on the kinds of programming that they want to advertise on.

01:13:24.000 And then YouTube releases a public announcement saying, advertisers are pulling on conservatives.

01:13:28.000 That's what happens with Twitter.

01:13:29.000 They bar these advertisers, or they have a meeting behind the scenes saying, hey, don't you advertise on Twitter, don't you support this Elon Musk, this Elon Musk competitor right now, or you might lose, you might lose some of your tax-exempt statuses or protections, and they say, okay, we're not going, and then they go out and say, look, look, the mainstream view is that Twitter needs to censor more, just look at the advertisers.

01:13:50.000 It doesn't pass the sniff test.

01:13:53.000 It doesn't.

01:13:54.000 And unfortunately, conservatives have failed you in a multitude of ways, because while the left is looking at critical mass, and let me leave you with this, because there is a real silver lining here.

01:14:03.000 The left is trying to achieve critical mass.

01:14:05.000 Facebook, I don't know how many billions of users, requires critical mass to work.

01:14:09.000 So what do they do?

01:14:09.000 They lose money for a very long time.

01:14:11.000 So did Amazon, saying, we need to get to the point where we control the population. 1.00

01:14:14.000 Facebook, that's what they did.

01:14:15.000 Amazon, that's what they did. 1.00

01:14:16.000 YouTube, I don't know if they're making money yet, but that's what they've done.

01:14:19.000 They've said, okay, you know what, we need to build critical mass of viewers so that then we can determine how information flows.

01:14:27.000 Unfortunately, people on the right, and I can tell you this, are obsessed with monetizing their base.

01:14:34.000 Look at, for example, look at Parler.

01:14:36.000 How quickly were you sent out promotional emails?

01:14:38.000 Was that list rented out?

01:14:42.000 This happens with a lot of people on the right.

01:14:43.000 They're going, no, no, no, hold on.

01:14:44.000 Let's make money right now.

01:14:45.000 We need to be a business first.

01:14:46.000 Well, okay, you can make some money.

01:14:48.000 That's why we create free content.

01:14:51.000 And we have Mug Club, where you can go and support us so that we're able to do both.

01:14:54.000 We're able to give something to you so you get your money's worth, but we do not remove ourselves from these platforms and concede that territory.

01:15:01.000 That's why I'm excited about a place like Rumble.

01:15:03.000 Rumble is an open platform, and they also have a, I think they have their like pay service thing that's similar to like a Mug Club thing.

01:15:09.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 But Rumble is saying, hey look, we are just going to be what a lot of people claim that they want on YouTube.

01:15:14.000 We are not going to censor you unless you are doing something against the law.

01:15:17.000 And on election night, in the midterms, after we were suspended, no one even came close.

01:15:23.000 We are at a point right now, an inflection point, where if the people on the right, the powers that be, the people with all the money, the billionaires on the right, if they see the inflection point right now, oh wait a second, We have enough people where we can hit critical mass.

01:15:37.000 We don't have to fight billions of users, hundreds of millions of users with trying to monetize a few hundred thousand by renting out just a mailing list.

01:15:45.000 They need to perk up, though.

01:15:47.000 They need to have ears to hear and eyes to see.

01:15:50.000 And here's the thing.

01:15:50.000 Maybe some people in positions of power will not be doing that on the right, and it's unfortunate.

01:15:55.000 We will.

01:15:56.000 We always will, and I am happy to go out on that shield.

01:16:00.000 And you know what?

01:16:00.000 I know that a lot of you out there are willing to do it with us, and I'm glad that someone like Elon Musk, for all of his potential flaws, is willing to do that as well.

01:16:07.000 This is an inflection point.

01:16:09.000 Elon Musk, Twitter, and records being shattered on Rumble that are bigger than YouTube.

01:16:15.000 That's the first night there were bigger numbers on Rumble than on YouTube.

01:16:18.000 That hasn't happened ever.

01:16:21.000 But we've got to shift our focus here.

01:16:22.000 We can't continually concede the cultural battles and say, who's going to win the primary? 0.99

01:16:27.000 I don't give a shit! 0.99

01:16:29.000 3 point something billion people are on a communist app! 1.00

01:16:33.000 Pay attention to that!

01:16:34.000 I don't know, is it me?

01:16:35.000 Let's, you know what, YouTube, thank you, remember, we don't have time to do the rail update, it's a bunch of corru- Okay, here, look, spoiler alert, this was going to happen before the election, when you're talking about the railway workers, and Biden, just like he said with OPEC and releasing the barrels, he said, hey, railway workers, can you just hold it off until after the election so that I can win? 0.98

01:16:50.000 And I said, okay, and now, sure enough, they're striking, because they want more free shit.

01:16:54.000 There you go, you can check the references at loudearthcreditor.com, there doesn't need to be much more to the story than that. 0.91

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