Louder with Crowder - Kyle Rittenhouse IN STUDIO! Sit-down & Cigars With Crowder | Louder with Crowder

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00:01:06.000 All right, we're good this time, right, Quarter Black? 0.98

00:01:08.000 We just started this, and then something funky happened with the YouTube.

00:01:13.000 This is actually the most nervous I've been for an Ash Wednesday with a special guest.

00:01:18.000 I don't want to say starstruck, because I don't want to be insensitive, even though I am.

00:01:23.000 I want to make sure I get this right.

00:01:25.000 Uh, you know... Dave, you can light your cigar during the, uh... You can light it during the... No, I'm trying.

00:01:30.000 I'm trying to do it now.

00:01:31.000 Yeah, well, light it during... And it's alright that you're starstruck around me.

00:01:35.000 Yes, well, I... I never get over it, Dave.

00:01:39.000 Every time you're in the green room, I urinate myself a little bit.

00:01:42.000 I know.

00:01:43.000 I think that's also because I have the plate in my head and quarter black turns on the microwave.

00:01:46.000 Uh, look, show them who we have here.

00:01:48.000 Piss my pants, forget who I am for a few minutes.

00:01:51.000 Merry Christmas.

00:01:52.000 This is, we have him here, Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:01:54.000 This is Ash Wednesday.

00:02:11.000 Have you ever heard this president say one negative thing about white supremacists?

00:02:16.000 A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people.

00:02:26.000 All right, so he is here.

00:02:28.000 I want to make sure that I get it.

00:02:29.000 I have these notes just to make sure I get all the names right so that I get sued as opposed to this young man.

00:02:35.000 took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer.

00:02:39.000 All right, so he is here. I want to make sure that I get it.

00:02:42.000 I have these notes just to make sure I get all the names right so that I get

00:02:45.000 sued as opposed to this young man. This is a kid who was thrust into a

00:02:49.000 situation that really through no fault of his own and a lot of conservatives or

00:02:54.000 people on the right tried to do the the both sides and we didn't.

00:02:59.000 A lot of prayers said for this kid in the studio, and I think you all know how emotional it was for us when he was vindicated.

00:03:06.000 And now he's on social media, so it's not, and Kyle Rittenhouse, it's not Fluffer Boy 2004.

00:03:12.000 Unfortunately, it is not Fluffer Boy 2000.

00:03:14.000 Why do I have Fluffer Boy, why do I have that here?

00:03:17.000 To my understanding, I believe that Assistant District Attorney Binger?

00:03:21.000 Assistant District Attorney Binger.

00:03:23.000 Oh, I thought it was Boy Fluffer 2000.

00:03:24.000 Well, Birds of a Feather.

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 Unless it's 88 Cross, I'm not sure.

00:03:29.000 Okay.

00:03:29.000 But one of them was Fluffer Boy.

00:03:31.000 One of them.

00:03:31.000 But yours is on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, at this is Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:03:35.000 And on Twitter, it's at this is Kyle R. That is correct.

00:03:39.000 Right.

00:03:40.000 What are you using the social for?

00:03:43.000 Well, just to show my life outside of the cameras.

00:03:48.000 You're taking, like, pictures of your cappuccinos and shit?

00:03:50.000 My lattes, yes.

00:03:51.000 My Starbucks.

00:03:53.000 A little bit of ladies, right? 1.00

00:03:54.000 A little bit of ladies? 1.00

00:03:55.000 Yes, yes.

00:03:55.000 Or do you like the boys?

00:03:56.000 It's okay, too.

00:03:57.000 We don't know.

00:03:58.000 We don't care.

00:03:59.000 Only you, Stephen.

00:04:00.000 Oh, well, thank you.

00:04:01.000 I'm gonna go.

00:04:02.000 He's sharp, look at this.

00:04:04.000 He's so poised too.

00:04:07.000 He's a polite young midwestern man.

00:04:10.000 It's all the cheese curds and brats we eat back in Wisconsin.

00:04:15.000 Polite young man who takes out the trash.

00:04:19.000 And I mean he actually was cleaning up the trash in Kenosha.

00:04:21.000 Yeah.

00:04:22.000 When was the last time you, as a kid, went to a city, well, went to a city where you worked, you know, served as a lifeguard, or your dad lived, to clean up vandalism and trash?

00:04:32.000 Do you ever remember doing that?

00:04:33.000 I'm sorry, that whole thing doesn't jive with me.

00:04:35.000 No, it doesn't jive.

00:04:36.000 I've gone to a city to buy drugs when I was his age.

00:04:38.000 That's true.

00:04:39.000 That was my thing.

00:04:40.000 You were like a kid who was like, you were practicing to be an EMT, correct?

00:04:45.000 I was a firefighter EMT cadet at the Antioch Fire Department, and I was a Grayslake Police Explorer.

00:04:50.000 Wow.

00:04:51.000 What does that mean?

00:04:52.000 So I learned what police officers do through a youth program.

00:04:56.000 It's like sponsored by the Boy Scouts of America.

00:04:58.000 Okay.

00:04:59.000 Learning what they do, the career stuff.

00:05:02.000 Get to hang out with a bunch of cool cops and firefighters, the real heroes out there.

00:05:07.000 Whoa, whoa, he corrected it.

00:05:08.000 Do you mean to suggest that nurses tick-tocking are not the same as first responders?

00:05:13.000 I won't put you in the hot seat, but you said it.

00:05:16.000 It's working.

00:05:17.000 Let me ask you, man, and I know you've been making the media rounds now.

00:05:22.000 Thanks for fitting us in.

00:05:26.000 What's it like?

00:05:28.000 What's the relief like?

00:05:29.000 Uh, being acquitted, um, so like, you're walking up a mountain with about thousand pound weights on your ankle.

00:05:36.000 Yeah.

00:05:37.000 And then... That was a tether.

00:05:39.000 And then you're zip lining it down.

00:05:40.000 That relief.

00:05:42.000 Oh yeah.

00:05:42.000 Like, cause you fainted for real, right?

00:05:46.000 I didn't faint, my knees buckled in.

00:05:47.000 Is that what it was?

00:05:48.000 Yeah.

00:05:48.000 As you could see, I thought you didn't.

00:05:50.000 I was like overwhelmed with relief.

00:05:51.000 That's when you get that real feeling of just, I can't, well you know I've never had that feeling.

00:05:55.000 It's gotta be the greatest moment.

00:05:58.000 Oh, 100%.

00:06:00.000 And then walking out, me and the sergeant for Kenosha Police Department, really professional guy, we sprinted down the hallway, getting out of that courthouse.

00:06:11.000 Oh, I'm sure.

00:06:12.000 I guess you could say that's the first time I ran from a cop.

00:06:14.000 There we go.

00:06:18.000 Usually you're running toward them with your hands up, with your hands actually up, saying this is exactly what happened.

00:06:24.000 And that was all misrepresented.

00:06:26.000 So much of this was misrepresented.

00:06:27.000 In every way.

00:06:28.000 I have to be careful in what I ask you. If I ask you anything that you can't answer,

00:06:33.000 yep, no problem. Just tell me, you know, you tell me to, I'll throw, I'll throw my mug at you.

00:06:37.000 Well, you know what? That's a, that's a dangerous, it's a registered weapon. I like those asbestos

00:06:40.000 tumblers. Really? Oh, those things are light. They're, they're, they're, they're, yeah,

00:06:43.000 they go by feathers. Oh, well, I'll take this home with me.

00:06:46.000 Okay. Well, that's fine. You can take several home with you. You brought some dogs here too,

00:06:48.000 which, uh, you know, we're, we're dog people. Um, I don't know why that's relevant.

00:06:53.000 That's like a stupid Oprah question.

00:06:54.000 Do you like dogs?

00:06:55.000 I love dogs.

00:06:56.000 Yeah, we should really softball this whole thing.

00:06:57.000 Yeah, we should softball this whole thing. 0.99

00:06:58.000 What do you like, waffles or pancakes?

00:07:00.000 Which one?

00:07:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:07:01.000 I like crepes.

00:07:03.000 Oh, look at this guy.

00:07:03.000 He's fancy.

00:07:04.000 I think I see a new Instagram theme.

00:07:06.000 I don't know why his pinky's not up.

00:07:08.000 Crepe life.

00:07:08.000 It is.

00:07:08.000 Treat yourself.

00:07:12.000 Okay, I do have some things that I genuinely just am curious about.

00:07:16.000 You were, and I think a lot of people got this wrong, and by the way, we'll be taking some chat on Mug Club.

00:07:21.000 I keep looking to the wrong camera because we have it set up here for Ash Wednesday Live.

00:07:26.000 Guys, you can comment.

00:07:27.000 Please hit the like button.

00:07:28.000 I'm only going to ask this once because I don't want to interrupt our conversation, and we'll be taking your questions, your chat, exclusively on MugClub.

00:07:39.000 So first let me ask you, and I know Joy Reid said this didn't happen, But she's an idiot. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Yes.

00:07:45.000 When the president, if not outright said, their argument is he didn't call you a white supremacist, he just inferred it and showed a video of you with him narrating about white supremacy.

00:07:58.000 I think that's bad enough.

00:08:01.000 What was that like when the president of the United States, former vice president of the United States, was dragging your name through the mud before you even made it to trial?

00:08:11.000 Very disappointing.

00:08:13.000 Biden's a former criminal defense attorney, so he should know innocent until proven guilty, but he decided to go guilty before being proved innocent.

00:08:21.000 Well, he didn't practice.

00:08:23.000 I mean, if he did, it was like for six months.

00:08:25.000 He like clerked.

00:08:25.000 I mean, he's been suckling at the government, the public teat for his whole life since he was like 27 years old.

00:08:30.000 Yeah.

00:08:31.000 I've also heard rumors his memory's fading.

00:08:33.000 Yes, unsubstantiated.

00:08:35.000 But Mr. President, I hope you see this, I'd have a sit down and I'll explain the facts to you so you can understand them.

00:08:41.000 So he just heard a cow bell, a dinner bell, and thinks that you're asking him to come in for pudding.

00:08:48.000 That's not going to help.

00:08:49.000 I don't think he'll be having a beer summit with you.

00:08:51.000 It's only a meal.

00:08:52.000 Three squares of pudding a day.

00:08:53.000 Three square cups a day.

00:08:55.000 Yeah, but you're saying, okay, were you scared?

00:09:00.000 Did you think that the fix is in at that point?

00:09:04.000 When you see the most powerful office in the land sounding off, in my mind I would go, he's emboldened here for a reason.

00:09:13.000 Were you scared?

00:09:14.000 I was terrified.

00:09:16.000 Like when I have all these media, lying media organizations, the president coming out and saying all these false things that just are not true.

00:09:24.000 Right.

00:09:25.000 It's just like, how could somebody get away with that and not be honest journalists?

00:09:30.000 Well, the Clintons killed a guy.

00:09:32.000 Is that true?

00:09:34.000 Allegedly.

00:09:34.000 These are rumors.

00:09:35.000 Not heard of.

00:09:36.000 Sorry, I don't want to misspeak.

00:09:37.000 Nine guys.

00:09:38.000 One girl.

00:09:39.000 That's good you weren't in the cell alone.

00:09:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:43.000 They, no really, they, you know, that must have been terrifying.

00:09:48.000 And then it's even worse than that.

00:09:49.000 You know, I talked about this on air, you have the entire media entertainment industrial complex.

00:09:54.000 You have the former vice president of the United States, Joe Biden.

00:09:56.000 Every, not even liberal station, I mean, some backed him up, but yeah, I mean, every new station jumped on white supremacy instantly.

00:10:06.000 But then in the trial, did, was there ever a moment where your blood ran cold when you, when you found out that the FBI had either withheld or lost the HD footage?

00:10:21.000 Well, did your blood run cold when you... I remember when I realized that, I thought, oh no, they're gonna railroad this kid.

00:10:27.000 So, backing up a little bit, with the FBI footage, we figured out about it about a month and a half prior to trial.

00:10:34.000 Oh.

00:10:34.000 And we got like a four minute video, extremely compressed.

00:10:39.000 Okay.

00:10:40.000 Sorry, Sprite.

00:10:41.000 Oh yeah, well that's okay.

00:10:42.000 You're fine.

00:10:43.000 Don't worry about burping, that's the least offensive thing that's taken place on the show.

00:10:47.000 Um, but we found out about that a month and a month or so prior to trial happening.

00:10:53.000 And apparently the state had that for several months, that video, and it wasn't sent to us.

00:10:58.000 Wow.

00:10:59.000 Um, and when we got it, the state said it shows me chasing down Mr. Rosenbaum, which just is false.

00:11:06.000 Mr. Rosenbaum chased me.

00:11:07.000 Oh yeah, we've seen.

00:11:08.000 And it's even in the FBI video.

00:11:10.000 So I'm like, It was in Fluffer Boy 2004's opening statements where he said, and we have FBI footage that will show Mr. Rittenhouse was chasing Rosenbaum.

00:11:19.000 And I remember us hearing that going, oh, how have they been sitting on this?

00:11:22.000 How did it not make it to Discovery?

00:11:25.000 I thought maybe there was something I had missed.

00:11:26.000 And then he showed it, and I'm going, well, it's the exact opposite of what you said.

00:11:31.000 Exactly.

00:11:32.000 Not you, what he said, Fluffer Boy.

00:11:35.000 You obviously noticed, it must have been, did it come in waves?

00:11:38.000 You're going, oh, the FBI wants a certain outcome here.

00:11:41.000 It seems that way.

00:11:43.000 And then seeing that, I'm like, I was like, oh, geez, it's really good that this is, there's cameras.

00:11:50.000 And then the second thought is I had, why is the FBI spying on US citizens?

00:11:56.000 Yeah.

00:11:57.000 That was my question too.

00:11:58.000 Yeah.

00:11:59.000 Is how many other riots that were taking place had drones, or they claimed I think at one point a Cessna, like an actually a manned vehicle.

00:12:06.000 How many other riots have this footage?

00:12:08.000 Do they have footage of the man who shot David Dorn?

00:12:11.000 Do they have footage of the, you know, over a dozen people who were killed at these riots?

00:12:14.000 The cops who were... They haven't caught the people who shot David Dorn, have they?

00:12:19.000 I don't know.

00:12:20.000 I don't know if they're looking.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, I don't know if they're looking, and for people who don't remember, he's the man who was shot dead, was a longtime St.

00:12:26.000 Louis, or an area in Missouri, I don't know if it was St.

00:12:28.000 Louis proper, police officer who was retired, and shot in the street over a television.

00:12:33.000 Black guy, by the way, before you go with the white supremacy angle again.

00:12:35.000 Which is odd, when one of the person, people who you defended yourself against, was screaming the N-word over and over again at a gas station.

00:12:45.000 Oh, that's a question, maybe it's a little bit light.

00:12:46.000 So, you know, you were there when he was screaming the N-word repeatedly, Rosenbaum.

00:12:50.000 I wasn't at that gas station, but I saw the videos, but the one time I did hear Mr. Rosenbaum scream the N-word, I was with Ryan Balch, and he came up to us.

00:12:59.000 I was asking people if they need help.

00:13:00.000 I was helping the rioters with first aid, and then he came up.

00:13:03.000 He said, I'm going to fucking kill you, you N-word.

00:13:07.000 And then the second time... I love how we say N-word, but you can say fucking.

00:13:07.000 Wow.

00:13:11.000 Even though you're quoting someone else.

00:13:13.000 I think it's best.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, I think it's best because we played the clip and we were accused of using the n-word on television because we're like, this is what he said.

00:13:21.000 I didn't want to whitewash it.

00:13:23.000 But sorry, continue.

00:13:24.000 So this is when you saw him.

00:13:25.000 And then I was like, okay.

00:13:27.000 And we moved away from him.

00:13:32.000 Yeah, like Grandpa Simpson walking into the brothel and walking back out when he sees Bart.

00:13:40.000 Okay, so Red Flag.

00:13:41.000 Yeah, very big red flag.

00:13:44.000 He was setting fires everywhere.

00:13:46.000 I saw him set a trailer on fire.

00:13:47.000 He was walking around with a chain.

00:13:48.000 And a mental hospital bag, is that correct?

00:13:51.000 That's what he threw at you.

00:13:53.000 When he threw it at you, did you know it?

00:13:54.000 Or were you like, oh my god, Percocet.

00:13:55.000 Did you see what was in it?

00:13:58.000 I didn't know what was in it.

00:14:00.000 I thought it was a metal chain because how it was shining through the light.

00:14:02.000 I know it's not a metal chain now, but that's what I saw when it was thrown.

00:14:06.000 If nothing else, we have to say about Rosenbaum that he's a renaissance man in the armaments that he chooses.

00:14:12.000 I was surprised he didn't go with a zip gun.

00:14:12.000 Yes.

00:14:14.000 He went with a chain.

00:14:15.000 He did.

00:14:15.000 I respect that.

00:14:16.000 He did.

00:14:16.000 He was snapping and snapping.

00:14:17.000 Did you notice, though, to me, what I saw was not just him screaming the N-word.

00:14:21.000 But that there were black guys around him?

00:14:23.000 We didn't do anything, which tells you he's really crazy.

00:14:26.000 They were just like, oh my god.

00:14:27.000 Yeah, when you don't punch that guy, he really seemed insane.

00:14:31.000 Like, he really did seem... Did you get that vibe when you... Yeah, did you get just that vibe of danger?

00:14:36.000 I noticed somebody who was, like, threatening to kill me.

00:14:40.000 I'm like, nobody threatens to kill somebody.

00:14:42.000 That's not normal.

00:14:44.000 Well, I threatened to kill Dave all the time.

00:14:45.000 It's okay.

00:14:46.000 You guys have a little bit of a romance going on.

00:14:48.000 Well, yeah.

00:14:48.000 We do.

00:14:49.000 Then he has me spit in his mouth.

00:14:51.000 I'm like, come on.

00:14:51.000 Steven, we all saw behind the scenes.

00:14:54.000 I say, surprise me with it.

00:14:55.000 Yes.

00:14:57.000 He shows up in a corset and says, do you like surprises?

00:14:59.000 That's how I like my coffee.

00:15:02.000 So, I had to ask Stephen to change.

00:15:04.000 He was wearing lingerie for Dave before I came here.

00:15:06.000 That's true.

00:15:07.000 Well, I wouldn't call it lingerie because I'm French-Canadian.

00:15:10.000 Well, there's way too much exposed.

00:15:12.000 I would call it a string.

00:15:13.000 I mean, I wouldn't, yeah.

00:15:14.000 Well, I mean, honestly, it was just a pair of socks.

00:15:16.000 He likes me to wear a little something.

00:15:17.000 Yeah, there's definitely some stuff popping out.

00:15:20.000 Yes!

00:15:20.000 They've got the doilies on them.

00:15:22.000 So sorry, we're going back to Rosenbaum.

00:15:24.000 But the FBI to me that was what just sucks.

00:15:29.000 My attention is aimed at this child and not this child.

00:15:33.000 Yeah.

00:15:34.000 Yeah.

00:15:35.000 Got a cigar by children.

00:15:37.000 So the FBI, though, to me, that was really scary.

00:15:41.000 I think for a lot of people realized, okay, In this case, I don't want to tar and feather one at the FBI, in this case, there's a politically charged agenda if they didn't give them this footage.

00:15:55.000 At least behind someone, right?

00:15:56.000 Yeah, but in this case, I didn't really, I didn't see this as a political case.

00:16:02.000 I saw this about a case of self-defense.

00:16:04.000 That's how I looked at it.

00:16:05.000 I know a lot of people disagree with me, but that's how I saw it.

00:16:10.000 Well, I think that's what it was.

00:16:11.000 It was the right time for the media to build up a story that they wanted, and they used you, and that's terrifying, I'm sure.

00:16:19.000 Yeah, especially just being a normal 17-year-old kid who was attacked, and next thing I know, everybody in this world apparently knows who I am.

00:16:28.000 Yeah.

00:16:30.000 I can't imagine.

00:16:31.000 Let me know if I'm attacked by a, I mean, you didn't know at the time, a child rapist.

00:16:37.000 And this has nothing to do with you exercising your right to self-defense, but it also goes back to this idea of the sort of these reforms that we've seen.

00:16:45.000 This is a guy who really probably should have been locked away for life based on the crimes that he had committed, just like you see people in New York with this sort of cash bail.

00:16:53.000 They go out and they commit violent crimes again.

00:16:56.000 And unfortunately, law-abiding citizens are the ones who get vilified.

00:17:00.000 People would say, well, you had no business being there.

00:17:03.000 I never said that because I don't believe that.

00:17:06.000 I think it's a lot easier for people to say, I'm justifying why I wasn't there.

00:17:10.000 I think a lot of people thought, you know what, this is a kid who's trying to do the right thing because no one is.

00:17:16.000 And a city where he works and he has close ties is a blaze.

00:17:21.000 I know you probably would, if you could do it again, you wouldn't go down.

00:17:24.000 Hindsight being 20-20, I would have stayed home.

00:17:27.000 Hindsight being 20-20, but we can't change that, and it doesn't change the fact that I was attacked and defended myself.

00:17:32.000 No, absolutely.

00:17:32.000 But you would have stayed home just because you would, you'd rather avoid all this?

00:17:36.000 Exactly.

00:17:36.000 Well, I can't imagine being 18, I mean, and I know it's gotta be difficult for you to have to, you know, deal with all of this, but like, why did you go out that night?

00:17:45.000 That's what I guess, because people, so many people keep asking.

00:17:47.000 Well, he was there before that night.

00:17:48.000 Oh, you were there before the night?

00:17:49.000 Yeah, you were there before.

00:17:50.000 I was there that morning cleaning graffiti off of Rutherford Central High School with Dominick and my sister and Ray.

00:17:56.000 And then I stayed the night at Dominick's house the night prior and we had fish for dinner that night.

00:18:02.000 Yeah.

00:18:03.000 See, I just think people need to hear that, though, because there's this... Was it fish?

00:18:07.000 Yeah, was it good?

00:18:08.000 Was it salmon?

00:18:08.000 Was it tilapia?

00:18:09.000 Was it a halibut?

00:18:10.000 Bluegill chips?

00:18:11.000 Oh! 0.60

00:18:12.000 Yeah, fried bluegill chips.

00:18:13.000 Really good.

00:18:13.000 One of my favorite foods.

00:18:14.000 Really?

00:18:15.000 Yeah.

00:18:15.000 That's very specific.

00:18:16.000 You're going to be a very good Instagram foodie.

00:18:19.000 Yeah, people are going to love it.

00:18:21.000 Food is everything.

00:18:22.000 It explains the gut.

00:18:23.000 It's almost bigger than Dave's.

00:18:25.000 Please.

00:18:25.000 Good Lord.

00:18:26.000 Dave, you can unload on the kid now.

00:18:29.000 All right, listen here.

00:18:29.000 You came to play.

00:18:31.000 Dave will play.

00:18:32.000 No, look, I want you to... Look, you want a puff of this cigar?

00:18:36.000 Take a puff of this cigar.

00:18:39.000 Look, I saw you smoking cigarettes and I know that this kid wants a cigar.

00:18:43.000 I feel like you've been on trial for worse things.

00:18:45.000 Why don't you want a puff of the cigar?

00:18:47.000 Okay, I will not say that this kid uses nicotine in any form or fashion.

00:18:52.000 Well, I have a real question.

00:18:53.000 How much Call of Duty experience did you have?

00:18:56.000 Yes.

00:18:57.000 I think that's what's on all of America's Markets.

00:18:59.000 And how did you unlock AR-15, which isn't available in the game?

00:19:02.000 But I was Prestige 27 in Call of Duty.

00:19:05.000 Okay.

00:19:06.000 Before this all happened.

00:19:07.000 Wow.

00:19:08.000 Now I'm only like Prestige 6.

00:19:09.000 I don't know what that means.

00:19:11.000 I don't have a clue.

00:19:11.000 Did you rescue the princess?

00:19:13.000 I didn't rescue the princess.

00:19:16.000 If I rescued the princess, she'd be right here with me.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, oh, there you go.

00:19:19.000 Well, we have Dave.

00:19:20.000 That's good enough.

00:19:21.000 Can I get a tiara?

00:19:23.000 Yes.

00:19:24.000 And only a tiara.

00:19:25.000 Yeah, I'll be back with socks and a tiara.

00:19:30.000 What do you think was the most important lesson that you learned?

00:19:33.000 Not hindsight 2020, you wouldn't go down there.

00:19:36.000 But in all of this, what was your big takeaway besides the relief of not being acquitted?

00:19:42.000 My biggest takeaway is how the government can just try to push their own narrative unsuccessfully in my case, but they can push their own agenda and just try to put anybody away for defending their self or any innocent person.

00:19:58.000 What do you think would have happened if there wasn't more footage than people could watch in a lifetime?

00:20:02.000 Steven, we wouldn't be here.

00:20:04.000 No.

00:20:05.000 You think you'd be locked up?

00:20:06.000 I think I'd be in jail if there wasn't all these videos.

00:20:09.000 And that's most people.

00:20:10.000 That's to me what's so scary.

00:20:12.000 There was all the footage, and it didn't matter anyway.

00:20:15.000 That's when people say, we're divided in this country as though we need to reach across the aisle, where I go, well look, there's all of this footage, and it doesn't matter anyway.

00:20:23.000 I think that you were really a line in the sand for a lot of people, for them to wake up.

00:20:30.000 If there wasn't any of this footage, the state would have been able to push their own narrative and say what they wanted to say, and they may have got away with it.

00:20:39.000 Did you feel when the jury was deliberating that there was a good chance that they were looking almost for a guilty plea because it was taking so long?

00:20:48.000 I don't know.

00:20:48.000 I don't know what happened in that deliberation room.

00:20:51.000 I don't know if I'll ever know.

00:20:53.000 But after the second day, I was getting nervous.

00:20:56.000 Oh, I bet you were.

00:20:57.000 There was probably one soccer mom holdout. 0.98

00:20:59.000 Probably.

00:21:00.000 Was there a Karen on the jury? 0.68

00:21:02.000 I'm not sure.

00:21:03.000 What's going on, guys?

00:21:06.000 Are we okay?

00:21:07.000 Are we good?

00:21:07.000 Okay, because Kyle's looking at you.

00:21:08.000 I know.

00:21:09.000 They're walking around you, right?

00:21:10.000 Like the Keebler elves. 0.96

00:21:11.000 They're distracting me.

00:21:13.000 Yes, I know.

00:21:13.000 They're distracting all of us as well.

00:21:15.000 Come on, let this kid tell his story.

00:21:17.000 You guys are distracting me.

00:21:18.000 Let him tell his truth.

00:21:22.000 You said you're burning your AR-15?

00:21:24.000 I'm having it destroyed.

00:21:27.000 Destroyed, right.

00:21:27.000 Yeah, because burning it probably wouldn't work.

00:21:29.000 Yeah.

00:21:30.000 Why's that?

00:21:31.000 It's just something I don't need.

00:21:34.000 I don't want it back on the street.

00:21:35.000 I had to defend myself with it.

00:21:37.000 I don't think it should be propped up in a museum like a lot of people think.

00:21:40.000 I think it just needs to be destroyed.

00:21:42.000 Oh, they gave it back to you.

00:21:44.000 No, no.

00:21:45.000 We're putting in a motion for the police department to send it off to be destroyed and I think we're going to send one of our guys, one of our people with it to make sure it is destroyed.

00:21:55.000 Okay.

00:21:55.000 Are you going to get another one?

00:21:57.000 I don't know.

00:21:57.000 Are you going to get some firearm?

00:22:00.000 I don't know.

00:22:01.000 He's going to get a firearm.

00:22:03.000 No, my man.

00:22:04.000 I might have to.

00:22:05.000 I'll get a Nerf gun.

00:22:07.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:22:08.000 Because, you know, just piss off the pedophiles.

00:22:10.000 That's a good way to go about it.

00:22:13.000 You might see it while buying a Nerf gun.

00:22:14.000 I don't know if a Nerf gun with a serial child rapist, that's like a rape whistle that calls more rapists.

00:22:19.000 I'm not sure.

00:22:19.000 I think so.

00:22:20.000 It's Nerf or nothing.

00:22:21.000 I haven't seen the ads for this Christmas.

00:22:25.000 What do you want for Christmas?

00:22:26.000 What do I want for Christmas?

00:22:27.000 Well, I got my Christmas gift, freedom.

00:22:30.000 There you go.

00:22:31.000 But what do you really want for Christmas?

00:22:33.000 Besides freedom.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, besides freedom.

00:22:36.000 I mean, that's a good answer, Amy Grant.

00:22:39.000 Listen, I'm going to ask some questions nobody's asked yet because people want to know.

00:22:42.000 I didn't mean you, I mean him saying that he wants freedom for Christmas.

00:22:45.000 I think it's a good, well we're not going to have it much longer.

00:22:48.000 No.

00:22:48.000 So we might as well enjoy it while we can.

00:22:49.000 Right.

00:22:50.000 So what, do you have anything that you want specifically?

00:22:52.000 What do I want for Christmas?

00:22:56.000 Everybody in this world to just stop fighting and unite as one instead of being politically divided.

00:23:01.000 Just everybody to be together.

00:23:04.000 Well, they're kind of doing it with China.

00:23:05.000 We're going to have to move on down.

00:23:06.000 I don't think that one's coming down your chimney this year.

00:23:09.000 What would I like?

00:23:12.000 Something that we could buy for you.

00:23:14.000 Take a hint.

00:23:15.000 Yeah, we'll send you some.

00:23:15.000 You want to ride two speedboats like skis?

00:23:17.000 He'll pay for it.

00:23:23.000 You can make it happen.

00:23:23.000 Yeah, at least lease him for a couple of months.

00:23:27.000 Just be with family.

00:23:29.000 Eat food.

00:23:31.000 Spend time with family and relax.

00:23:33.000 Yeah.

00:23:34.000 How long were you locked up?

00:23:35.000 I was in jail for 87 days.

00:23:37.000 Dang.

00:23:38.000 What was that?

00:23:38.000 Do I have you topped, Dave?

00:23:40.000 You do have me topped.

00:23:41.000 Oh! 0.60

00:23:41.000 How long were you? 0.60

00:23:42.000 I had only been in jail like a few days at a time and then I was locked up once in a mental hospital for 20 and then...

00:23:53.000 Sixty, maybe, in juvenile rehab?

00:23:57.000 Yeah, different childhood.

00:23:58.000 Yeah, I wasn't like you.

00:24:00.000 I wouldn't have been going there.

00:24:02.000 Well, if people had drugs for sale, I would have ran.

00:24:06.000 You were going through everyone's mental hospital bag.

00:24:07.000 Trust me, if I saw the cops, I'm not running at them when I'm 18.

00:24:10.000 No, absolutely not.

00:24:12.000 And you are running at the hospital bags.

00:24:14.000 Are you going, what's in here?

00:24:14.000 Yeah, oh no, certainly I would look through and be like, oh cool, lithium.

00:24:17.000 He used to wait outside of the mental hospital and pop people in the head so they'd drop their bag like a piñata.

00:24:23.000 Oh, look, Vicodin, Percocet, great, and he would grab him.

00:24:25.000 Made a lot of money.

00:24:25.000 He's a degenerate.

00:24:26.000 It's okay.

00:24:27.000 Degenerate?

00:24:28.000 Let me ask you, uh, let me ask you this.

00:24:30.000 Uh...

00:24:33.000 I wanted to ask, because I saw your reaction when Binger asked, I want to make sure I get this name right, it was Ritchie McGinnis, where Binger said you had no idea that he was reaching for Kyle's gun, or he was trying to take Kyle's gun, and Ritchie McGinnis said, who was called by Binger, the prosecution said, well he reached for his gun and said fuck you.

00:24:56.000 I saw you start kind of trying to hide back as intense as it was a smirk.

00:25:01.000 Do I have that about right?

00:25:02.000 Yeah.

00:25:03.000 Um, so I was, I was like, I was like, why is he asking these questions?

00:25:07.000 Like, this is what Richie was saying, and this is what I was hearing and seeing.

00:25:12.000 Yeah.

00:25:13.000 Like it's on video.

00:25:15.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 But were you dumbfounded as to how Flufferboy2004 could ask that question?

00:25:21.000 He rightly admitted it.

00:25:22.000 I mean, did that give you a huge amount of relief?

00:25:24.000 Well, that's Gage Grosskreutz.

00:25:25.000 Yeah, I was going to get to that.

00:25:26.000 Oh, I thought... No, this is the guy who was with him who... No, sorry, I always get them confused.

00:25:30.000 This is... Richard McGinnis.

00:25:31.000 Richard McGinnis.

00:25:32.000 He was the one who saw the...

00:25:34.000 Guy reach for your gun.

00:25:36.000 So that was a big one, but I remember you smirking at that.

00:25:39.000 But then, did you go, that's the moment that changed the case when Gage Grosskreutz admitted that you only shot when he came up and aimed at you?

00:25:48.000 Because that was, for everyone here, we said, whoa, when that happened live.

00:25:53.000 Well, the moments... I didn't think they had a case from the beginning when they started off their opening statements with lying to the entire jury.

00:26:01.000 Right.

00:26:02.000 And then putting on a witness, Dominic, who helped me.

00:26:04.000 Yeah, I thought the prosecutor was your lawyer.

00:26:07.000 Yes.

00:26:07.000 That's what we thought at first.

00:26:08.000 We were confused.

00:26:09.000 He's really bad at this.

00:26:11.000 And I have, my attorneys are great.

00:26:13.000 Mark Richards, Corey Shroffsey, and Natalie Wisco.

00:26:16.000 They're great attorneys.

00:26:17.000 Phenomenal.

00:26:18.000 I don't think I would have been able to get off without them.

00:26:20.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.000 Even though you say you know that they didn't have a case, a prosecution, and they were lying, but it still must be in the back of your mind that, you know, they can railroad you if they want.

00:26:29.000 Yep, 100%.

00:26:31.000 And then with the Gage testimony, Attorney Sherroff, he said, it wasn't until you chased him down Did you feel like, okay, pretty confident after that, that at least I won't be convicted on the severe murder charges they were trying to press?

00:26:49.000 Did you feel like, okay, I'm out of the woods the moment that happened?

00:26:53.000 Did you feel like, okay, pretty confident after that, that at least I won't be convicted

00:26:59.000 on the severe murder charges they were trying to press?

00:27:02.000 Did you feel like, okay, I'm out of the woods?

00:27:04.000 The moment that happened, there was a shift in your attitude?

00:27:09.000 I stayed optimistic the entire trial, but it was more like, at least he's honest.

00:27:17.000 Right.

00:27:20.000 Or high.

00:27:20.000 Yeah, most likely the latter.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, most likely the latter.

00:27:24.000 And I want to go two more questions on Gage Grosskreutz, who's beautiful and brave.

00:27:28.000 He then went on Good Morning America and other shows to Talk about cultural appropriation of spacers.

00:27:37.000 I'm surprised he doesn't have ringlets on his neck.

00:27:39.000 I'm surprised his name was Gage and he had ear gauges.

00:27:41.000 I just thought it was a pro wrestler name.

00:27:43.000 But then he went on Good Morning America, I believe, with Michael Strahan?

00:27:47.000 Yeah, then he goes on Good Morning America and just lies about his... He said the exact opposite of his testimony because he's not under oath.

00:27:53.000 Well, yeah, he can say whatever he wants.

00:27:54.000 I think it's like he just lied.

00:27:56.000 I can't think of the name, but he perjured himself or something?

00:27:59.000 He perjured himself, yeah.

00:28:00.000 Yeah, he perjured himself and I'm like...

00:28:02.000 Yeah.

00:28:02.000 If you want to become a lawyer, you might need to learn those terms.

00:28:04.000 Well, he said on the stand, I believe, that he said, I'm going to effing kill you, right?

00:28:09.000 No, Gage Groskritt said on the stand that he pointed his gun at Kyle.

00:28:12.000 Right.

00:28:13.000 Yeah.

00:28:13.000 He admitted that he himself, the first person, aimed a gun at you.

00:28:17.000 And then he lied in office police reports.

00:28:19.000 He said he was going to help me because I was being, he saw me being attacked.

00:28:22.000 Right.

00:28:23.000 And then he said... Weird way to These are the reports where he failed to mention that he had a gun?

00:28:27.000 These are the reports where he doesn't mention that he has a gun?

00:28:30.000 Kind of a big deal.

00:28:31.000 Yeah, you'd think.

00:28:32.000 Oh, and by the way, he remembered all these details.

00:28:33.000 It's only a homicide trial.

00:28:35.000 You may want to include that you had a gun.

00:28:36.000 He included a ton of details.

00:28:37.000 I mean, he remembered if you were wearing boxers or briefs, but he didn't remember they had a Glock 27.

00:28:40.000 I thought it was odd.

00:28:41.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:28:42.000 Well, and he drove farther.

00:28:44.000 That was amazing.

00:28:45.000 You think he lives 35 miles farther than you?

00:28:49.000 You know he didn't know.

00:28:50.000 I'm like, can someone get this guy an old VHS of Dora the Explorer?

00:28:53.000 Get the map song out of here. 0.99

00:28:55.000 He has no clue.

00:28:57.000 That's another thing, where people thought you went into this foreign city that you have connections with.

00:29:01.000 Kenosha was my community.

00:29:03.000 My dad lived in Kenosha.

00:29:05.000 My best friend lived in Kenosha.

00:29:10.000 And that was just my community.

00:29:11.000 I hung out there every day.

00:29:12.000 I spent more time in Kenosha than I did in Illinois.

00:29:15.000 And for that whole state line crossing stuff, I worked in Kenosha and I had to cross multiple state lines to get here, Stephen.

00:29:23.000 Yeah.

00:29:23.000 Well, especially people who don't live in the Midwest.

00:29:25.000 You know, I was born in Michigan and my wife was raised there.

00:29:28.000 You know, you're driving from, we do that drive all the time, from Michigan to Chicago.

00:29:31.000 My mom grew up in Michigan.

00:29:33.000 Oh, where did she grow up?

00:29:35.000 You know where Wilson is?

00:29:36.000 No, do you?

00:29:37.000 Is that northern?

00:29:38.000 Northern?

00:29:39.000 I have no idea.

00:29:39.000 Uh, by Cadillac?

00:29:40.000 Yeah.

00:29:40.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, Cadillac, yeah, up in northern Michigan.

00:29:43.000 That's a beautiful area.

00:29:43.000 Well, he's a, he's a Detroiter, too, and you know, I mean, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois.

00:29:47.000 Oh, it's right there.

00:29:47.000 I can go to another country.

00:29:48.000 So, is Detroit really Midwest, though?

00:29:51.000 People argue about that.

00:29:53.000 They do.

00:29:54.000 It's more Robocop than Midwest.

00:29:55.000 It's more apocalyptic.

00:29:57.000 It's, no, I love Detroit, but I always considered it, like, north, really.

00:30:00.000 It's basically Canada.

00:30:02.000 It's, like, right on the fringe.

00:30:03.000 Yeah.

00:30:04.000 It is different from Wisconsin.

00:30:05.000 It's across the border.

00:30:05.000 Yeah.

00:30:06.000 You can have a cigarette there.

00:30:08.000 I believe it's 19.

00:30:09.000 Or 18.

00:30:10.000 You're still- In Canada?

00:30:11.000 Yeah, right- Well, you can drink.

00:30:12.000 I don't know if you can have a cigarette.

00:30:14.000 Oh, I don't know what the rules are there.

00:30:15.000 Don't get him in trouble on this show.

00:30:17.000 Dave, you're trying to get me in trouble.

00:30:18.000 Well, you just said- Well, first off, you- This is Canadian over here.

00:30:21.000 Yeah, you want- So you just said- We're American.

00:30:22.000 You now are saying, because you want- You wanted to be a nurse.

00:30:26.000 I remember reading that and being surprised.

00:30:27.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 And I said, you know what?

00:30:29.000 Go and be a nurse, but please make sure that you never have to work again, as far as the media, you know, pulling Nick Sandman.

00:30:36.000 This is what I was thinking.

00:30:37.000 You don't have to answer that.

00:30:38.000 What is with that, though, where you're going into school, correct?

00:30:42.000 I'm at college.

00:30:43.000 I'm in college.

00:30:44.000 You are in college now.

00:30:45.000 But he's switching.

00:30:45.000 He wants to become a lawyer.

00:30:46.000 That's what I was going to ask him next.

00:30:47.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:30:48.000 No, no, go ahead.

00:30:49.000 But there was like people protesting that.

00:30:52.000 Is that true?

00:30:52.000 That is correct.

00:30:53.000 Okay.

00:30:53.000 What college?

00:30:55.000 Arizona State University.

00:30:56.000 Is that where you're going?

00:30:57.000 Yes, that's where I'm a student at.

00:30:58.000 Oh, you are going to get herpes, my friend.

00:31:02.000 Just don't show up to the wrestling meet.

00:31:03.000 The last time I had a concussion was in Arizona.

00:31:05.000 HPVU.

00:31:06.000 Yeah, next video, Stephen, is going to be me and you wrestling.

00:31:09.000 Oh, geez.

00:31:10.000 Did you wrestle?

00:31:10.000 Yeah, I wrestled for a little bit in high school.

00:31:13.000 Oh, wow.

00:31:13.000 Okay.

00:31:14.000 I mean, middle school.

00:31:15.000 So are you still there, though?

00:31:16.000 It's just online, I would assume.

00:31:18.000 Yeah, it's online.

00:31:18.000 I took a compassionate withdrawal from my classes.

00:31:21.000 My professors, well, my professors offered it, and then a week later they gave me a compassionate withdrawal, which, thank you for that.

00:31:30.000 But then they came out with this statement saying, oh, no, no, no, no, he's not enrolled at ASU anymore.

00:31:36.000 I'm like, I'm enrolled, I'm just not in any classes.

00:31:39.000 I'm admitted.

00:31:40.000 I have a student portfolio.

00:31:42.000 Right.

00:31:42.000 They're like, we are taking his checks.

00:31:45.000 Yeah, even when you're innocent.

00:31:46.000 That's something, have you learned here?

00:31:47.000 Even if you're innocent, the court of public opinion is very different.

00:31:50.000 And it's not, there weren't even a lot of protesters there.

00:31:54.000 No.

00:31:54.000 It was a very, very small amount.

00:31:56.000 Yeah.

00:31:57.000 And then people are just like, let him get an education.

00:31:59.000 Right.

00:32:00.000 I'm like, yes, that's what I want to do.

00:32:01.000 I want to go to law school.

00:32:03.000 I'm going to ASU in the spring in person.

00:32:06.000 I want to do my four year undergrad there before I take the LSAT and go do my three years of law.

00:32:11.000 Yeah.

00:32:11.000 But hopefully before you finish, you own Don Lemon's house.

00:32:14.000 But you switched from nursing to law.

00:32:17.000 Is that because of the... I heard you mentioned prosecutorial misconduct.

00:32:21.000 Yes.

00:32:21.000 Do you want to be a defense attorney?

00:32:22.000 I do.

00:32:23.000 I want to be a criminal defense attorney.

00:32:24.000 Okay.

00:32:25.000 I think you're going to do very well.

00:32:27.000 I'm big on, no matter who the person is, I believe everybody deserves fair and good legal representation.

00:32:35.000 Like OJ. 0.99

00:32:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:32:38.000 So, Joan Dimitris, she selected the O.J.

00:32:40.000 Simpson jury.

00:32:41.000 She helped select my jury.

00:32:43.000 She's a phenomenal jury consultant. 0.91

00:32:47.000 She's more than that for us, though.

00:32:50.000 She was a rock for my mom, somebody my mom can lean on and hold during this entire ordeal.

00:32:57.000 Yeah, how was she doing?

00:32:58.000 I remember watching that.

00:32:58.000 Yeah, that looks sad.

00:32:59.000 I mean, there are three times that I've cried on this show or come close to it.

00:33:03.000 On air.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, on air.

00:33:08.000 When Hopper died, and I had to talk about it, when David Dorn, we watched that footage, and we all about lost it when you were crying on the stand.

00:33:21.000 It was really, really hard for all of us.

00:33:23.000 One of the hardest things was me keeping my composure, and then seeing your mom.

00:33:27.000 How has she been doing now?

00:33:29.000 Is she relieved?

00:33:30.000 She's relieved.

00:33:31.000 She's doing so much better.

00:33:33.000 I think she's a little mad at me right now, but that's okay.

00:33:35.000 Why is she mad? 0.92

00:33:37.000 Still smoking cigarettes?

00:33:38.000 No, she doesn't smoke anymore.

00:33:39.000 No, you.

00:33:40.000 She's mad because you're smoking a cigarette. 0.56

00:33:41.000 Yes, yes.

00:33:43.000 No, what has she met?

00:33:45.000 I think I left her on read or something.

00:33:47.000 You left what?

00:33:49.000 Yeah, I think I left my mom on read this morning or something.

00:33:51.000 On read?

00:33:52.000 I didn't reply back to her text.

00:33:53.000 Oh, okay, I didn't know.

00:33:55.000 I don't know about your Call of Duty prestige term texting.

00:33:59.000 You don't play Call of Duty, Stephen?

00:34:01.000 No, I'm married and have twins.

00:34:03.000 You have twins?

00:34:03.000 Yep, just had twins.

00:34:05.000 And I didn't play Call of Duty before.

00:34:06.000 Congratulations.

00:34:07.000 Thank you very much, yeah.

00:34:09.000 Both boys or both girls? 0.63

00:34:11.000 One boy, one girl.

00:34:11.000 Nice.

00:34:12.000 So identical?

00:34:14.000 Yeah, I don't fully understand.

00:34:17.000 He looks like me.

00:34:18.000 He does when he smiles.

00:34:19.000 He has, you know, he has the weak jaw, unfortunately, and a little upturned nose.

00:34:23.000 And she looks, thank goodness, more like her mother.

00:34:26.000 We didn't want one of those Billy Joel daughter situations going around where she comes out. 0.98

00:34:30.000 Could look like her mom, but she looks like me.

00:34:33.000 Yeah, a monster would call them a butterface, and they're not that perfect. 0.99

00:34:36.000 Yes, a monster.

00:34:37.000 Could've looked like Christie Brinkley, daughter Joel.

00:34:39.000 Yeah, isn't that crazy?

00:34:40.000 He came out looking like the piano man.

00:34:42.000 So I'm glad, so your mom is doing better.

00:34:44.000 Yeah, same with my sisters. 1.00

00:34:47.000 They're doing good.

00:34:47.000 They're hanging out at home, relaxing.

00:34:50.000 They may be going on vacation sometime.

00:34:53.000 But they're just hanging out with friends, catching up on everything we missed, because we all had to put our, they had to, thank you to them, they had to put their lives Are they going through any sort of therapy or counseling?

00:35:09.000 I don't want to say as traumatic for them, but in a different way.

00:35:15.000 Definitely.

00:35:17.000 Because you're in it, but for them there's also the trauma.

00:35:20.000 Feeling completely helpless.

00:35:22.000 Yeah, but they've been so helpful to this all Especially my mom.

00:35:28.000 She's been really She's been really good to this entire thing Yeah, that was that was really hard to watch because you're watching it live on the show and and to be honest I had listened to so much rhetoric on the news that it said he was a white supremacist There's almost this view that you went down there and like I'm clean Dave what?

00:35:47.000 Tell him what you thought before you were in the show I did.

00:35:49.000 I thought that he was... He thought you were what the media told him.

00:35:53.000 And then he was on this show.

00:35:53.000 Because all I had heard was CNN going, he's a white supremacist.

00:35:57.000 I figured you went down there in like a MAGA hat.

00:36:00.000 They wanted you to believe that you were hunting people.

00:36:03.000 So I watched the trial going into it because we started covering it.

00:36:07.000 And it was almost immediate where I'm like, wait, this is everything I've heard so far just in the one attorney's opening statements shows that you weren't anything that they painted you.

00:36:18.000 I can't tell you how many people, when I would talk with them in person, would say, Wait, the people he shot were white guys?

00:36:25.000 Yeah.

00:36:25.000 People didn't know after you were acquitted that you had shot three white guys.

00:36:30.000 And that's the thing, people don't do their research.

00:36:32.000 I urge anybody to go back and watch the trial.

00:36:34.000 I'm sure Stephen will link it in the description.

00:36:36.000 Yes, we'll link it.

00:36:36.000 We'll have all the references, yeah.

00:36:38.000 Yeah, we have to.

00:36:39.000 So anyway, if you don't know the facts, just go back and watch the trial.

00:36:42.000 Spend like two and a half weeks watching it and just learn the facts of the case and then make up your opinion after.

00:36:49.000 What do you think is the most, if people have to come away with one or two, the most important key facts that the public perception about which is wrong?

00:36:58.000 What do you think is the key fact that people think or the misperception that people have that is most pervasive?

00:37:06.000 That I didn't cross state lines and that rifle I was carrying was 100% legal for me to carry.

00:37:11.000 Dude, that is the one that I keep having to tell people as well.

00:37:15.000 I think you're right.

00:37:15.000 I think that is the number one thing that is completely... Because I saw an article today where they're like, he crossed state lines and carried an illegal firearm.

00:37:23.000 And I think it was an article that said I was in self-defense, but they said I crossed state lines and my firearm was illegal.

00:37:29.000 Right.

00:37:30.000 Why does that one bother you more than the idea of white supremacists?

00:37:34.000 Why is that the one that sticks in your craw so much?

00:37:36.000 That's the one I hear the most.

00:37:39.000 Again, on the white supremacy stuff, it's just false.

00:37:42.000 Well, that was the first charge dismissed, too.

00:37:46.000 The firearm charge.

00:37:48.000 Because from the beginning, I said, I don't think he's going to get quarter black disagreement.

00:37:52.000 He was like, I don't know.

00:37:52.000 I think they're going to railroad this kid.

00:37:54.000 I said, I genuinely believe that he will be acquitted.

00:37:57.000 Because of how murky, to be fair, some lawyers can use the legalese of the firearm laws in Wisconsin, I thought maybe they might need to try and make an example of this and get them on some kind of a firearms charge, but that doesn't mean that it's right.

00:38:11.000 When they dismissed that one, I thought, okay, we're cooking with gas now.

00:38:16.000 Did you feel that momentum shift?

00:38:18.000 Uh, no, not really.

00:38:19.000 I didn't think, in my opinion, I don't think the gun had any bearing on the right to self-defense.

00:38:24.000 Right.

00:38:24.000 At all.

00:38:25.000 So I wasn't really worried.

00:38:26.000 I mean, more so I'm seeing it like, okay, there might be some objectivity here.

00:38:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:30.000 Because that was something that everyone said and it was dismissed, right?

00:38:34.000 The people in charge said, no, we're not going to play that.

00:38:35.000 Well, and even the footage they had to show, because so many people were like, oh, you were pointing it at people, this and that, like, all the footage showed that you weren't.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, I didn't point my firearm at anybody who wasn't attacking me.

00:38:45.000 Exactly.

00:38:46.000 Yeah, and that was honestly amazing.

00:38:49.000 I know I wouldn't have been so composed.

00:38:51.000 I want to ask you about that, I don't know if you can answer this, you can always tell me if you can't, because Gage said that you, he used the term, re-racked your gun.

00:38:58.000 And this was something that was, it came from his Twitter, by the way, to the point where when we were trying to get the key details from the case, we were wrong.

00:39:05.000 We issued a correction saying, it doesn't appear that Kyle actually did that, but it was everywhere, and it stemmed from Gage's Twitter.

00:39:15.000 It did not happen.

00:39:16.000 So I never pulled the charging handle back.

00:39:18.000 I never went through, I never pulled that, but I did hit the forward assist to close the ejection port, which was open a little bit.

00:39:25.000 Okay.

00:39:26.000 And, uh, was that training too, that you, um, did you have firearms training before?

00:39:31.000 No.

00:39:32.000 I knew, I don't know much about firearms, but I knew that the forward assist will close the bolt if it's a little bit open.

00:39:39.000 Beginner's luck.

00:39:42.000 For crying out loud, that was unbelievably quick.

00:39:47.000 Yeah, I mean, seriously, dude, that shows your adrenaline and how afraid you were.

00:39:51.000 I mean, and when you did break down on the stand, I do have this question, because I know that was hard, and if you don't want to relive it, just say so, but aren't you bothered by the fact that immediately people were like, oh, he's faking?

00:40:02.000 Because what, you're just Meryl Streep all of a sudden?

00:40:04.000 You can do the greatest acting ever?

00:40:06.000 He wasn't sleeping with Harvey Weinstein.

00:40:08.000 The Oscars, yes.

00:40:10.000 Look, it took everything I had.

00:40:11.000 I had an anxiety attack.

00:40:12.000 I bet you did, yeah.

00:40:13.000 I had a PTSD episode on the stand.

00:40:15.000 That's what I said when it happened.

00:40:17.000 People said he was faking.

00:40:18.000 I said, I've had panic attacks.

00:40:21.000 Have you had panic attacks before that?

00:40:23.000 Yeah, when I was in jail I had quite a few panic attacks.

00:40:25.000 Was that the first time you experienced panic attacks?

00:40:30.000 Last time I was, before the trial, was in jail.

00:40:33.000 And then I learned how to control it with tactical breathing.

00:40:34.000 But your first panic attack was in jail?

00:40:36.000 Had you ever experienced panic attacks before that?

00:40:38.000 for jail. No. So you know I've had a handful of times in my life I can count on one hand.

00:40:38.000 No.

00:40:45.000 And it bothers me when people go oh my gosh I was so anxious I had a panic attack. No,

00:40:48.000 no you don't know what that means. It's different. It's not social anxiety that you fix with

00:40:52.000 your weed. It's a physiological response. And when we were live I remember saying he's

00:40:58.000 having a panic attack.

00:41:01.000 And it just makes it, it just, it's very upsetting because I don't care what people say.

00:41:07.000 I've longed to live past that.

00:41:08.000 Yeah.

00:41:09.000 But I'm like, it took everything I had to fight back because I didn't want to cry on national TV.

00:41:13.000 Well, that's the hardest part about a panic attack, as I get them too, is the more you're trying to stop it.

00:41:18.000 They get worse.

00:41:19.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:41:19.000 It exacerbates it.

00:41:20.000 Right.

00:41:21.000 Yeah.

00:41:21.000 And respectfully, I told people, look, if he was going to fake cry, he wouldn't fake ugly cry.

00:41:26.000 Yeah, right?

00:41:27.000 It's true.

00:41:27.000 It wasn't a distinguished cry.

00:41:29.000 It wasn't like a lone Native American tear looking at a trash bag in the wind.

00:41:33.000 It was a Clint Eastwood.

00:41:36.000 You didn't look like the most dashing suitor while that was happening.

00:41:40.000 Come on, Steven.

00:41:41.000 I thought I looked good.

00:41:41.000 Yeah, you're doing it in the mirror beforehand.

00:41:48.000 Good!

00:41:49.000 I'm gonna be aces!

00:41:50.000 No, when we were watching it live, I remember we said that, and I said, watch, they're going to say that he's faking.

00:41:55.000 Oh, I knew right away.

00:41:56.000 And right away, and that just, I think we all watched, we felt like you were a little brother.

00:42:00.000 Honestly, everyone here, this was the most, we had taken this more personally than anything else, because, you know, we have to be careful too, because if we try and raise, that's a problem for you, if we try and raise money for you, if we try and, and I had been on the phone with my lawyer, what can we do, and he said, the best thing you can do is I'm not interested in any internships.

00:42:17.000 But I know that we had reached out to you behind the scenes and wanted to keep a healthy

00:42:22.000 distance because I'm sure you have every Tom, Dick, and Harry now knocking on your door

00:42:25.000 offering you internships or probably broadcast or book deals.

00:42:31.000 I'm not interested in any internships.

00:42:33.000 I respectfully know.

00:42:35.000 What about book deals?

00:42:36.000 I don't know.

00:42:37.000 There have been offers, right?

00:42:40.000 I don't think so, but I'll see what the future holds.

00:42:42.000 Children's book?

00:42:42.000 When you were in jail.

00:42:43.000 So we'll do a coloring book.

00:42:45.000 A pop-out?

00:42:45.000 Yeah, we'll do a coloring book.

00:42:48.000 You'll just pop out like, surprise, bitch! 1.00

00:42:51.000 That's it, it's one page?

00:42:52.000 Yeah, it's just one page.

00:42:54.000 Just one page about trigger control.

00:42:56.000 Um, what did you read in jail?

00:42:58.000 I'm curious about that.

00:42:59.000 Um, I read the entire Maze Runner series.

00:43:02.000 Um, I read, I read so much in jail.

00:43:05.000 Yeah.

00:43:06.000 I never read so much in my life.

00:43:07.000 I didn't have my phone.

00:43:09.000 Yeah.

00:43:09.000 It's probably a good thing.

00:43:10.000 No.

00:43:11.000 No?

00:43:11.000 I thought you were gonna be like, oh, I learned a lot about myself.

00:43:13.000 No!

00:43:13.000 I wanted to be TikToking!

00:43:15.000 Yeah, I wanted to be posted on 4DoorsMoreHorrors.

00:43:18.000 Yeah, that's right, that was brought up.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, I don't see how being hilarious is a problem.

00:43:25.000 Guilty!

00:43:26.000 Yeah, done.

00:43:26.000 And not to be the elephant in the room, though I think hilarious.

00:43:30.000 It's Dave Scott hanging out.

00:43:32.000 I'm just kidding, Dave.

00:43:34.000 Shots fired, huh?

00:43:36.000 That was a bad joke.

00:43:37.000 He's going to play Santa next week.

00:43:38.000 He's getting in character.

00:43:39.000 No, I eat a lot of fish.

00:43:42.000 Was it bluegill?

00:43:43.000 It was bluegill, yes.

00:43:44.000 We have to try that bluegill.

00:43:46.000 I don't know if I've eaten bluegill.

00:43:47.000 We're from Michigan where everything is whitefish.

00:43:50.000 and that's it can be it's it's fine but like a lot of old you guys have like salmon there and everything yeah we do but for some reason they bring out the white fish first and it's a it smells like how fish dying perch does yeah perch you're not the what's that place where the Chelsea cafe they have good perch You know what's really good?

00:44:06.000 Mahi-mahi. 0.98

00:44:08.000 Mahi-mahi is one of my favorite fish.

00:44:10.000 It's a very lean fish.

00:44:11.000 There's a place in Manhattan Beach, I think it's a franchise, and they do grilled mahi-mahi.

00:44:16.000 Really?

00:44:17.000 You've never been to Manhattan?

00:44:19.000 No.

00:44:19.000 Manhattan Beach, California.

00:44:22.000 One used to be a white supremacist haven.

00:44:27.000 Which one?

00:44:28.000 Well, I guess I repeat myself.

00:44:30.000 And now you got me off track.

00:44:32.000 Sorry.

00:44:32.000 I'm sorry.

00:44:33.000 We were talking about my fat ass eating fish.

00:44:37.000 Well, he was the one who brought up your fat ass eating fish. 0.98

00:44:38.000 Look, I thought I wore something slimming.

00:44:40.000 You know what?

00:44:41.000 It's okay.

00:44:42.000 Me and you both, Dave.

00:44:43.000 I know.

00:44:43.000 You and I should go get some fish together.

00:44:45.000 Let's do it.

00:44:46.000 Kyle and I have perfect bodies.

00:44:48.000 Short, stout.

00:44:49.000 You don't need to look good on the stand to hurt with your words, Kyle.

00:44:55.000 Let that be a lesson to you.

00:44:56.000 Dave has feelings too.

00:44:57.000 I don't have many.

00:44:59.000 They're damaged from all the years of drugs.

00:45:01.000 So, you read the Maze Runner series.

00:45:04.000 Were you reading any law books?

00:45:06.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.

00:45:07.000 No, they didn't have any law books.

00:45:09.000 They're like, we don't want you to figure out how to get out of this.

00:45:12.000 That's smart.

00:45:13.000 That's actually smart.

00:45:14.000 I would not allow any prisoners access to law books for the same reason I don't want them to have access to the gym.

00:45:18.000 Yeah, let's send these violent criminals stronger into society than they were before. 0.91

00:45:22.000 Never got it.

00:45:23.000 I'll have to disagree with you on that one, Stephen.

00:45:26.000 I believe everybody has a right to exercise because working out is a huge stress reliever and it's something else to focus on.

00:45:35.000 And reading law books, I think you should be able to know the law if you're going through a criminal proceeding.

00:45:39.000 Right.

00:45:40.000 But I'm just saying if someone's on death row, there's nothing wrong with a nice yoga DVD.

00:45:46.000 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 He doesn't need to be doing heavy bench press.

00:45:50.000 Well, they don't have weights.

00:45:51.000 I mean, you weren't in prison.

00:45:52.000 They didn't have a gym at the juvenile place, but, like, I don't think they have any weights.

00:45:56.000 It's just, like, push-ups and, like, sit-ups and stuff.

00:45:58.000 How was your treatment?

00:45:59.000 Yeah.

00:46:00.000 No, they were very professional and nice to me.

00:46:02.000 The guards?

00:46:02.000 Yeah.

00:46:03.000 What about the inmates?

00:46:04.000 The kids at the juvenile center, they didn't like me at first.

00:46:08.000 They would, like, be like, oh, ugh.

00:46:11.000 And then I'm sure it was quite a bit more severe than that.

00:46:14.000 Yeah.

00:46:15.000 I wouldn't imagine if I went into jail, and they were barking through the bars.

00:46:19.000 Gross.

00:46:19.000 I'd be like, I got off easy.

00:46:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:22.000 Oh, what did they really like?

00:46:23.000 They didn't like you?

00:46:24.000 What kind of things would they do?

00:46:24.000 How would they mess with?

00:46:25.000 Well, they wouldn't mess with me at all.

00:46:27.000 But they just would like, they just didn't like me until they got to know me.

00:46:30.000 And then I'm, I'm like a king at spades now.

00:46:33.000 So I'd like, I'd like run the spades table.

00:46:36.000 Oh, so thank God, that's what you meant.

00:46:38.000 Yeah.

00:46:41.000 Dave, what were you doing in jail?

00:46:44.000 What's Spades?

00:46:45.000 Is that a game?

00:46:46.000 It's a game.

00:46:46.000 You don't know Spades?

00:46:46.000 You don't know what Spades are?

00:46:47.000 No.

00:46:47.000 It's a card game.

00:46:49.000 I had a legendary Uno run for four years that my dad... This man's been nowhere near a jail.

00:46:54.000 No, nowhere near a jail.

00:46:56.000 I actually almost got sent to jail for jumping a Metro turnstile in Montreal.

00:46:59.000 It turns out it was a serious, I don't know, a different level of misdemeanor or felony the week before and they changed the law.

00:47:06.000 What a lame story, you should never tell it again.

00:47:07.000 I know, I should never tell it again.

00:47:10.000 This went nowhere, but... I think it's fun, we're just... I had an UNO run that you can talk with after this with Darren about, my Pops Crowder.

00:47:18.000 They thought I was cheating.

00:47:19.000 So that's the only card game I played, because once I had a four-year run, I just retired on top like Rocky Marciano.

00:47:23.000 You were cheating, weren't you, Steven?

00:47:25.000 Hand to God, I was not cheating.

00:47:26.000 I don't know what it was for four years, undefeated, and we would play all the time.

00:47:31.000 But I never played Spades, because, you know, when you find what you're good at, I just played Uno.

00:47:34.000 So what is Spades?

00:47:36.000 How is that different?

00:47:36.000 Do you know Euchre?

00:47:37.000 No.

00:47:38.000 Okay, maybe that is just a Michigan thing.

00:47:39.000 No, that's Euper.

00:47:40.000 He's from Wisconsin.

00:47:41.000 Oh, right.

00:47:43.000 No, sorry, it's still Michigan.

00:47:45.000 Did we win a war for that?

00:47:48.000 Yeah, I don't know exactly.

00:47:49.000 I don't know why it's there.

00:47:50.000 It's not even part of Michigan, really.

00:47:53.000 They're all in Packers Jack and stuff.

00:47:57.000 Do you have... this is a traumatic experience, right?

00:48:00.000 We're obviously making light of it, because that's sometimes the way to process it.

00:48:03.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 Yeah, it's the only way to process it.

00:48:05.000 Do you have PTSD, do you think?

00:48:07.000 Yeah, my shrink said I did, but it took me a while to believe that.

00:48:12.000 Why didn't you believe the shrink?

00:48:13.000 You know, because I'm like, no, I'm fine, I'm normal.

00:48:15.000 My ego got the best of me, apparently.

00:48:17.000 Yeah, you're just like, ah, water off an AR-15's back.

00:48:20.000 Well, I mean, I imagine you're gonna be, you're in therapy, I would imagine.

00:48:23.000 Yeah.

00:48:23.000 And you're gonna have, you have PTSD, I would assume.

00:48:26.000 Yeah.

00:48:26.000 Do you have, like, recurring dreams about it?

00:48:29.000 I have nightmares occasionally.

00:48:31.000 They definitely have slowed down over the past couple weeks.

00:48:34.000 Do you have what they would call memory avoidance?

00:48:39.000 Sometimes.

00:48:40.000 Sometimes, but not a lot.

00:48:42.000 I stare off into space a lot.

00:48:45.000 You're 18.

00:48:48.000 You're probably thinking about girls like he thinks about smack.

00:48:52.000 No, I'm thinking about you, Stephen.

00:48:53.000 Well, thank you.

00:48:55.000 Whoa, geez.

00:48:56.000 It wouldn't be so uncomfortable if you weren't just denigrating his physique.

00:49:00.000 He wasn't denigrating.

00:49:01.000 He was like, ah, Dave's not my type.

00:49:02.000 Stephen, where's the assless chaps? 1.00

00:49:04.000 I saw the ball gags in the coffee.

00:49:05.000 He was saying we match in physique because we both eat a lot of fish.

00:49:09.000 All right.

00:49:09.000 Well, then I guess I don't know who you want to date.

00:49:12.000 It comes as a couple pick.

00:49:13.000 Yes, exactly.

00:49:15.000 It's a pig on a spit. 1.00

00:49:16.000 Let's make this weird.

00:49:17.000 So you do have PTSD.

00:49:19.000 Yeah.

00:49:19.000 Well, of course.

00:49:21.000 Yeah, I would say, of course, I didn't want to, you know, diagnose you.

00:49:24.000 No, but I mean, I think it's just being honest.

00:49:25.000 So you have, you know, like, Piers Morgan or something, but your psychiatrist said that.

00:49:32.000 What are you doing to deal with that?

00:49:36.000 Talking to my shrink, talking about it with her really helps.

00:49:40.000 She's a very smart lady. 0.99

00:49:44.000 Talking to the people in my circle, such as Dave, LT, Kenny, TC, the people who have been with me from the beginning.

00:49:50.000 You have a lot of friends that got your back.

00:49:52.000 Yeah.

00:49:54.000 More than friends, they're mentors.

00:49:56.000 They taught me so much throughout this.

00:49:58.000 I've grown so much because of them.

00:50:00.000 They're just amazing.

00:50:02.000 Dave helped me so much, same with LT and Kenny and TC.

00:50:04.000 Come on, we just met.

00:50:07.000 Cool Dave.

00:50:08.000 You're not that helpful.

00:50:09.000 Me?

00:50:09.000 Cool Dave, not you Dave.

00:50:12.000 Less cool Dave.

00:50:12.000 So that's good, you have a strong support system.

00:50:14.000 Yes.

00:50:15.000 Okay.

00:50:15.000 That's good.

00:50:16.000 That's important.

00:50:17.000 It's very important.

00:50:18.000 It seems, yeah, if you have family and friends that have always been on your side and been there, it's gotta help kind of take away the darkness that was being given.

00:50:28.000 I know you said that it wasn't something that should be celebrated.

00:50:32.000 That is correct.

00:50:34.000 But you don't feel guilt for what you had to do?

00:50:36.000 No, no.

00:50:37.000 I knew I defended myself, and I just don't think it's something to be celebrated.

00:50:42.000 At the end of the day, two lives were lost, and I may have been attacked, but it's not something to celebrate.

00:50:46.000 I don't think it's something to celebrate, and I ask that because if you said that you did, this would be an intervention that you should not feel any guilt.

00:50:54.000 And I know sometimes there's misplaced guilt when there's a traumatic event.

00:50:59.000 Well, that's when somebody does the right thing.

00:51:01.000 Yeah.

00:51:01.000 I mean, really, I think for the most part.

00:51:03.000 Soldiers.

00:51:05.000 It's not something to be, I understand what you're saying, to be celebrated, but what I talked about on air is you were there trying to do the right thing.

00:51:13.000 That's why I never took a step back like, yeah, he shouldn't have been there.

00:51:15.000 No, I understand why you were there and actually commend you for being there because you were there For a long time, cleaning up and helping.

00:51:22.000 You weren't one of these people, and I'm saying this, look, and you're gonna have to take this praise for a second.

00:51:26.000 Let me give him this praise.

00:51:27.000 You weren't there taking and harming lives, like the people who attacked you.

00:51:31.000 They all, and this is relevant, you didn't know it at the time, but they all spent a lifetime harming other people.

00:51:37.000 You have not.

00:51:38.000 You were there to help, and I don't think it was wrong for you to be there, and I think it's important that you know, even though you don't think it's something to be celebrated, and I understand the sentiment, I certainly celebrate that that occurred rather than the alternative, because I know that if you hadn't defended yourself, which is what the left has excoriated you for, you'd be dead.

00:52:00.000 You'd be dead.

00:52:01.000 And that's not justice.

00:52:04.000 At all.

00:52:04.000 And we're really glad.

00:52:05.000 I just want you to know, for us, we're just really glad that you are not dead and you're not locked up.

00:52:13.000 It really does.

00:52:13.000 Like, I've never had a more vested interest.

00:52:15.000 I tell people, I'm not unbiased.

00:52:17.000 It was really, really... I mean, I've had conversations with my wife about how heavy it was on my heart.

00:52:22.000 I know you don't celebrate the loss of life, but I celebrate that you're still alive and you did what you had to do.

00:52:30.000 Sorry.

00:52:31.000 I know I get all emotional.

00:52:32.000 Call him a fat son of a bitch again.

00:52:33.000 It's fine.

00:52:34.000 Whatever you want to get out of this.

00:52:37.000 Has anyone told you that, though?

00:52:39.000 I know that you have a lot of people going, like, hey, we want you to appear on this show.

00:52:44.000 Early on, people were saying, get him on the show.

00:52:46.000 We reached out, and we never pushed it.

00:52:49.000 You don't owe anyone anything.

00:52:51.000 Do you know that?

00:52:52.000 Yeah.

00:52:53.000 Do you really know that?

00:52:56.000 Hey Kyle, it's not your fault.

00:53:01.000 It's not your fault, boy, it's not your fault.

00:53:03.000 No, you don't owe anyone anything and it's really easy to get sucked into this industry of conservatives asking more of you because they admire you.

00:53:10.000 Just, I hope you don't let that happen.

00:53:13.000 Well, I think the best thing you can do, I mean, it always sounds strange, but you know, the best revenge is living your best life.

00:53:18.000 And if you're going to college and you want to do something and spin this into the most positive thing you can, you can do something amazing with your life.

00:53:25.000 And I think it's good that you have the opportunity to do that because there's been so many people that have been in your position that don't have that option.

00:53:32.000 And there's been people, you know, obviously falsely incarcerated, white or black, any of that, you know?

00:53:36.000 And it just comes down to the fact that You yourself, because you wore quick enough.

00:53:44.000 You know, you get the second chance, I'm sure you look at life.

00:53:48.000 And I shouldn't call it a second chance that you did something wrong, but I just mean like you got through something that most people I don't think could handle.

00:53:56.000 And you should be proud of yourself for that.

00:53:58.000 And I just think that it's good you go to school, do what you can, and you know, just stay.

00:54:04.000 I'll have you as my first client, Dave.

00:54:06.000 I feel like it's helped me grow as a person.

00:54:08.000 I've learned so much, especially from Dave and LT.

00:54:10.000 They've taught me so much.

00:54:11.000 I don't think you can get me off.

00:54:12.000 Yeah, no.

00:54:13.000 Those Dilaudids don't come cheap.

00:54:14.000 No, I'm going to at least 15 years.

00:54:16.000 Do you feel stronger from it?

00:54:17.000 I feel like it's helped me grow as a person.

00:54:20.000 I've learned so much, especially from like Dave and LT.

00:54:24.000 They've taught me so much.

00:54:26.000 I'm the person I am today because of them.

00:54:28.000 Yeah.

00:54:29.000 What was it like for you to see people like, I know you already had a message for LeBron

00:54:32.000 James, but people like Batista and these celebrities?

00:54:35.000 That was a good message.

00:54:36.000 Yeah, it was a good message.

00:54:38.000 I like the message.

00:54:39.000 But these other celebrities who, even after you were acquitted, continuing to, I mean, really commit libel and slander a lot of them.

00:54:46.000 Batista said something?

00:54:47.000 Didn't he?

00:54:48.000 Or maybe he said something else.

00:54:49.000 I don't know if Batista did.

00:54:50.000 I know... Because I'm going to say, I love WWE and I was a big Batista fan.

00:54:54.000 You love WWE?

00:54:54.000 Really?

00:54:56.000 My entire life?

00:54:57.000 Well, I don't watch it anymore, but... Well, he said a lot of stupid things, so I could be mixing up stupid celebrities saying stupid things.

00:55:02.000 I'm pretty sure he did say something, more so about this is a state of affairs in the United States, and he turned it all into a racial thing, which is what's so odd about this.

00:55:11.000 How do you think... I think I know the answer, but I want to get your perspective.

00:55:15.000 How do you think this was turned, or why do you think this was turned completely falsely into a racial issue?

00:55:21.000 Well, people just want to push their own agenda on a case that has nothing to do with race.

00:55:25.000 This is a case about self-defense, not politics, not about race, not what you believe in.

00:55:30.000 It's about the right to defend yourself.

00:55:32.000 But why do you think that it became that narrative in the public eye?

00:55:36.000 They wanted to push their own agenda, and I think it was them trying to come after the guns.

00:55:42.000 Yeah.

00:55:45.000 What does it do, or how do you react when people use the term vigilante?

00:55:50.000 Look, I didn't know what a vigilante was August 25th, and I wasn't a vigilante, and I still don't even know what a vigilante is.

00:56:00.000 I'm not a vigilante.

00:56:01.000 It's an old guy with a mustache who goes out with a sock with rolled up quarters and hits guys in the subway.

00:56:06.000 It's a death wish.

00:56:08.000 Dave?

00:56:09.000 Yeah, no, that is the definition.

00:56:11.000 Listen, I've got some questions.

00:56:14.000 Yeah, it's Dave on a subway with a blackjack. 1.00

00:56:16.000 Hey, you punk!

00:56:17.000 I go out as Fat Man at night.

00:56:20.000 Well, you roll.

00:56:22.000 I hesitate to stop crying, and I usually just let it go.

00:56:25.000 Right, yeah.

00:56:25.000 Between cries, he puts his legs up like the Black Haden hook and yells, bangarang.

00:56:29.000 Somebody's robbing a 7-Eleven.

00:56:30.000 I'm like, I'm just here for the jerky.

00:56:32.000 Yes, exactly.

00:56:33.000 Is it slushy day?

00:56:35.000 I thought they were free.

00:56:36.000 Yeah, well they are sometimes.

00:56:38.000 One of my favorite days a year.

00:56:38.000 One day a year.

00:56:40.000 It really is free special day.

00:56:41.000 And then I realized I can afford, I can afford Slurpees on any given day.

00:56:44.000 Really, the amount of time you spend in line to save a dollar is not worth it.

00:56:48.000 You should just go every other day.

00:56:49.000 I'll tell a story later.

00:56:50.000 Remember that later in life, Kyle.

00:56:52.000 About free ice cream day at Ben & Jerry's when I was on a date.

00:56:55.000 It did not go well.

00:56:56.000 Are you dating?

00:56:58.000 Oh, no.

00:56:58.000 I am not dating.

00:56:59.000 I am very single.

00:57:00.000 My DMs are open.

00:57:02.000 Oh, jeez.

00:57:02.000 Look at that.

00:57:03.000 I was gonna say, did you get fan mail from women? 0.99

00:57:05.000 You had to.

00:57:06.000 Yeah, I got quite a few fan mail.

00:57:08.000 What was the weirdest one you got?

00:57:09.000 I had a mom trying to set me up with her daughter. 1.00

00:57:15.000 A mom trying to set you up with her daughter? 1.00

00:57:18.000 Yeah.

00:57:19.000 Was her daughter good looking?

00:57:20.000 I don't know.

00:57:20.000 I didn't do a check or anything.

00:57:22.000 Why not?

00:57:23.000 What are you, asexual?

00:57:23.000 What's wrong with you?

00:57:25.000 It's okay.

00:57:26.000 No, but, uh... Hey man, everybody's gay sometimes.

00:57:30.000 Only for you, Stephen.

00:57:31.000 It's Tuesdays.

00:57:32.000 What's today?

00:57:33.000 Uh, nah, you missed it by that much.

00:57:36.000 I know!

00:57:37.000 But you had to get some weird fan mail, right?

00:57:41.000 I mean, you had to.

00:57:41.000 Interesting, but all the support mail from everybody just meant so much.

00:57:46.000 Who was the most famous person that supported you, Trump?

00:57:49.000 Uh, I think so.

00:57:51.000 I'm not sure.

00:57:51.000 Did you get a few though?

00:57:53.000 Did you get like a few like messages or letters from people that were, you don't have to say their names or anything.

00:57:57.000 I think, um, I got a book from an author.

00:58:00.000 Gary Busey?

00:58:02.000 Uh, no.

00:58:03.000 Well, he sends those to everyone.

00:58:04.000 Which author?

00:58:05.000 Um, I'm trying to remember the name.

00:58:05.000 Yeah.

00:58:06.000 I have the book in my bag, uh, in my, uh, in my suitcase.

00:58:10.000 That's obviously not the most famous.

00:58:11.000 If you have to get, find the name, it's either, it's either a token or it's either a JK Rowling or it's not a star.

00:58:18.000 It's the Turner Diaries.

00:58:19.000 I don't know.

00:58:22.000 So probably Trump.

00:58:24.000 Yeah, Trump was probably the most famous.

00:58:26.000 Was it crazy meeting him?

00:58:27.000 Yeah, it was very interesting.

00:58:30.000 He just wanted to know about me and talk about me.

00:58:33.000 We didn't talk about politics or anything.

00:58:35.000 We just talked about who I am as a person and he asked questions and he talked with me and my mom.

00:58:43.000 Well, you don't seem like a political person.

00:58:45.000 I don't know politics.

00:58:47.000 I'll be honest, I'm not a political person.

00:58:50.000 But you watch this show every now and then.

00:58:51.000 This is this is more of like a comedy show like you get to make fun of Dave.

00:58:55.000 Yeah, he gets it.

00:58:57.000 Yeah Well, thank you Was that the first time that President Trump had was it the time that we saw when you and Mara Alago?

00:59:04.000 How do you reached out before that?

00:59:07.000 Trump reached out and wanted to meet us.

00:59:08.000 So we met we I'm not gonna turn down a meeting with the former president.

00:59:13.000 So I And you wouldn't turn down a meeting with the former Vice President?

00:59:16.000 No, I wouldn't turn down a meeting with President Biden at all.

00:59:20.000 If he reached out and I'd be happy to tell him my side of the story of what happened.

00:59:25.000 Anybody who wants to know what happened.

00:59:26.000 Well that would be an important and interesting conversation.

00:59:30.000 I mean until he nodded off 48 times and shit his pants.

00:59:32.000 Yes.

00:59:33.000 But I mean the beginning of it would probably be really good for the U.S.

00:59:36.000 Like the first minute and a half?

00:59:38.000 Easy.

00:59:38.000 Yeah.

00:59:39.000 And he came four hours late?

00:59:40.000 Yes.

00:59:40.000 Because he had to load him up like Mr. Burns?

00:59:43.000 Putin was riding around with him on his shoulders, chicken-fighting Kamala and Willie Brown.

00:59:48.000 Sorry, this is... I'm sorry, we do this thing.

00:59:51.000 Yeah, we're silly.

00:59:52.000 We like to have a laugh.

00:59:53.000 A good laugh.

00:59:54.000 So you are, you're open to dating.

00:59:57.000 I am very open to dating.

00:59:58.000 So maybe that's what you want for Christmas.

01:00:00.000 That's what I want for Christmas, yes.

01:00:01.000 A nice dame. 1.00

01:00:02.000 What are you looking for in a woman? 1.00

01:00:06.000 Yes.

01:00:07.000 Yes.

01:00:08.000 Tracks of land?

01:00:09.000 Tracks of land.

01:00:10.000 Yeah.

01:00:10.000 Now, what are you looking for in a woman?

01:00:12.000 You know, some person that just wants to, like, date me for who I am.

01:00:20.000 And what I'm looking for in a woman is... 1.00

01:00:24.000 I like a girl with a little bit of butt. 1.00

01:00:26.000 Okay.

01:00:26.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:00:27.000 Some waist, big tits. 1.00

01:00:29.000 Big boobs, big boobs. 1.00

01:00:30.000 Now, dude, you're a guy.

01:00:32.000 Let people get mad at that.

01:00:33.000 Yeah, let people get mad.

01:00:35.000 Every guy in the world's a hypocrite.

01:00:36.000 You like big butts, so, you know. 1.00

01:00:37.000 He cannot lie.

01:00:37.000 You're talking to a racial issue.

01:00:39.000 No other brother can deny.

01:00:41.000 Oh boy.

01:00:42.000 I'll give you a shovel. 0.97

01:00:43.000 Dig that hole deeper there, Kyle.

01:00:45.000 I was helping.

01:00:46.000 I was doing two life crew.

01:00:48.000 That's a good thing.

01:00:49.000 What was your first meal outside of jail when you got to eat something you wanted?

01:00:52.000 I had 50 chicken nuggets.

01:00:53.000 Did you really?

01:00:53.000 I ate about 38 of them.

01:00:57.000 So jail was a time warp where you exited a 9 year old?

01:01:03.000 Chicken nuggets?

01:01:04.000 What, were fish sticks not available?

01:01:06.000 Did you go get prime rib or something?

01:01:08.000 No, I wanted McDonald's chicken nuggets with sweet and sour sauce and Dave came through and got chicken nuggets and that's how I knew This guy's a good dude.

01:01:21.000 I turned out I was right.

01:01:22.000 He's been with me ever since.

01:01:25.000 He did miss the McFlurry, but that's okay.

01:01:27.000 Dave, I gotta say, it's forgivable.

01:01:30.000 I don't know if you have to call it okay.

01:01:33.000 Yeah, I wouldn't go that far.

01:01:34.000 Thank you so much for the chicken nuggets, Dave.

01:01:36.000 I owe you one.

01:01:39.000 How do you get 50?

01:01:40.000 Do they sell them in 50?

01:01:40.000 Yeah, you just have to buy a bunch of them.

01:01:42.000 Wait, so you have to buy two 20s and a 10?

01:01:44.000 I think so, yeah.

01:01:45.000 Oh, good luck getting that right in this pandemic, employer.

01:01:47.000 You could even, yeah, you can even buy three 20s.

01:01:50.000 Really?

01:01:50.000 Yeah.

01:01:51.000 Well, yeah, but he won't let you buy anything.

01:01:52.000 Did you buy 60 and give Dave 10?

01:01:54.000 Or did you buy 50 on the dot?

01:01:55.000 I don't think so.

01:01:56.000 He asked for one and you were like, no.

01:01:58.000 I was not sharing my chicken nuggets.

01:01:59.000 No reason, you didn't.

01:02:00.000 Oh, looks like you're going back to jail.

01:02:02.000 I don't know why I like to ask that, but there's always got to be something that makes you happy instantly, and I assume it was food, right?

01:02:08.000 Food, yes.

01:02:08.000 I love it.

01:02:09.000 Explain it.

01:02:10.000 Dave, I can tell you love food, too.

01:02:11.000 Dude, we know.

01:02:12.000 That's why I asked about the meal!

01:02:14.000 For crying out loud.

01:02:15.000 He's not the other prosecutor who looked like Mojo from Marvel for crying out loud.

01:02:20.000 He's saying I had a gut.

01:02:21.000 He didn't say I was a... Yeah, he didn't say that you were a house.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, he didn't say... Hey, Dave doesn't know I was going to lose both my feet in the next year.

01:02:27.000 When he was there, they had to have the prosecutor's desk stapled.

01:02:29.000 What was in his glass?

01:02:31.000 Insulin?

01:02:31.000 Yes.

01:02:32.000 It was just duck fat.

01:02:34.000 Could you see people take the stand when he was... like, did you have to look around him?

01:02:40.000 It must have crossed your mind, like, this guy, he's not going to have the energy to prosecute this long.

01:02:45.000 Yeah, you've got to be thinking there might be another lawyer.

01:02:48.000 What's up, Ben?

01:02:52.000 Yeah, you have the right to remain silent.

01:02:56.000 Let's talk about that for a little bit.

01:02:58.000 So what were you guys' thoughts when Binger violated my Fifth Amendment rights?

01:03:02.000 I want to hear from you guys on this.

01:03:04.000 I thought, what a dick.

01:03:05.000 I thought it was incredible, and so many people got mad at the judge, but I was very, very happy that he pointed out that you had every right to do that, and I think that that made you look a lot classier, just the fact that you were doing that anyway.

01:03:20.000 I think you let the system work, you were trying to let your lawyers do their job, you weren't doing a bunch of interviews, you weren't doing any, you were just, you were letting the system work.

01:03:28.000 And the fact that he was trying to demonize you for that, I found to be pathetic.

01:03:32.000 And I think it was so clear that he was trying to score political points when you took the stand.

01:03:36.000 In other words, you're waiting until you can take the stand to say it accurately, and then he's saying, yeah, but before... What were you about to say?

01:03:43.000 The funny thing is, as soon as... Everybody was in shock when I got called to the stand.

01:03:48.000 I don't know what you guys were thinking.

01:03:49.000 I was surprised.

01:03:49.000 I was going to ask you why you did that.

01:03:51.000 I wanted to tell my story because I have nothing to hide.

01:03:54.000 Yeah, because you know what?

01:03:55.000 It wasn't a murder trial.

01:03:56.000 It was a self-defense trial.

01:03:57.000 Right.

01:03:58.000 And people don't take the stand in a murder trial.

01:04:00.000 Did your lawyers advise against it at first?

01:04:01.000 No, no.

01:04:03.000 I told them I want to take the stand and they agreed with me.

01:04:07.000 And I was like, I want to tell my story.

01:04:09.000 But you were about to say something about, I was saying that it was clear he was trying to score

01:04:12.000 political points talking about you exercising your fifth when you took the stand. And you

01:04:16.000 were about to say something. So the funny thing is, right before, everybody was in shock in the room.

01:04:22.000 And my lawyer was like, we now call Kyle Reddenhaus to the stand. And I'm like, let's do this game day.

01:04:29.000 And then we get up there and the jury gets sent out and then after that you see ADA Binger just sprinting as fast as you can with like the flash to get that giant notepad he's been wanting to have. 1.00

01:04:41.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 Yeah.

01:04:42.000 And then he had me on the stand for several hours.

01:04:45.000 Like, I've never... Yeah.

01:04:46.000 That was long.

01:04:47.000 I was getting worn out by the end.

01:04:49.000 I'm sure you guys were.

01:04:50.000 That's a tactic they try and use.

01:04:51.000 They just wear you down.

01:04:52.000 I mean, fatigue makes cowards of all men.

01:04:54.000 That's... Well, it's why any time you're being questioned for anything, it's just, see how long you can go until you change your story.

01:05:01.000 And which shows when you never did, that you're telling the truth.

01:05:05.000 That's the thing, like, he kept asking me leading questions and repeating, he kept asking different questions in different ways, and I'm like, look, my story's the same.

01:05:16.000 I was just getting irritated towards the end, I don't know if you could tell.

01:05:19.000 I thought you were incredibly composed, honestly.

01:05:22.000 I thought, if anything, you were getting a little more mechanical, just because I could see that you sort of realized, okay, I see what he's doing here, he's reframing the same question.

01:05:32.000 Is that how you felt you saw the curveballs coming?

01:05:34.000 Yeah, I noticed he was asking me these questions in different ways trying to get me to answer differently, and I was just like, no.

01:05:42.000 I was frustrated a lot because he asked about my Call of Duty, he asked about Four Doors More Horrors, and then he asked about the fire, and I'm like, it was a fire.

01:05:52.000 So I was just getting irritated.

01:05:55.000 He's like, was it hot?

01:05:56.000 Yes.

01:05:57.000 No, it was cold.

01:05:59.000 Would you say it was more of a red flame at the tip or the center of the blue flame, like a torchlight?

01:06:03.000 You know, Stephen, that's a good question.

01:06:05.000 The fire, it was like... All over a car launch?

01:06:09.000 Orange color.

01:06:10.000 It was inside the Duramax.

01:06:14.000 There was some smoke.

01:06:15.000 It was going up.

01:06:17.000 Not to mention the dumpster fire.

01:06:18.000 They tried to push... And then there was a dumpster fire. 0.77

01:06:23.000 There were some fires.

01:06:24.000 It was a little bit brighter than that orange towards the coals.

01:06:28.000 Well, that's electric and we know that they wouldn't have been able to afford that.

01:06:32.000 So, my question is...

01:06:37.000 No one has been prosecuted as far as, like, actually, like, caged grocers for aiming a gun at you.

01:06:42.000 In other words, if you were justified in self-defense, right, people who committed these, I mean, they committed arson, people who committed serious, you know, battery assault, nothing?

01:06:55.000 The only person who has been charged with this, which I don't agree with, the two people.

01:07:02.000 I agree with Joshua Zeminski being charged.

01:07:04.000 I don't agree with Dominic being charged.

01:07:06.000 Those are the only two.

01:07:07.000 What was Dominic charged with?

01:07:09.000 He was charged with providing a firearm to a minor, which I'm not gonna, I don't want to jeopardize his case, so I don't want to talk about much of that.

01:07:17.000 Did you, um, at that moment though, because you had asked the question just even to go back to it, did you think there was a really good chance there was gonna be a mistrial?

01:07:24.000 I thought that, I thought that was the only outcome.

01:07:26.000 Yeah, I did too for a little bit and I was curious if that's what you were feeling in the room.

01:07:30.000 Did you like the judge?

01:07:31.000 Yeah, Judge Schrader is a nice guy, very old school, a very constitutional judge.

01:07:36.000 He was by the law and he's not a judge you want to get sentenced by what I hear from people, but he is a judge you want.

01:07:43.000 If you want a fair trial, he's the judge you want.

01:07:46.000 Now you're born and raised in Wisconsin.

01:07:47.000 Illinois, Wisconsin, yes.

01:07:50.000 Why don't you sound like Schroeder?

01:07:52.000 Why don't you sound like talking like that?

01:07:54.000 Illinois.

01:07:55.000 Yeah, but you're across the border.

01:07:57.000 I'm gonna stab this pencil in your fucking eye. 1.00

01:08:00.000 They got a little bit of that, but they don't have that one, you know.

01:08:04.000 No, I don't have much of a Midwest accent.

01:08:07.000 Do you find it funny when you're listening to Judges?

01:08:09.000 A little bit.

01:08:09.000 No, no.

01:08:10.000 Oh, we find it hilarious, but we're children.

01:08:14.000 I did fine.

01:08:15.000 It was hilarious.

01:08:16.000 Come on now.

01:08:17.000 Dave is a million righteous.

01:08:19.000 Well, I don't want to say giant, but he's a man baby. 0.86

01:08:22.000 I'm sort of a man.

01:08:24.000 I'm a boy with gray hair.

01:08:25.000 He's a maybe.

01:08:26.000 I'm like a Benjamin Button that got caught halfway.

01:08:29.000 I can't tell.

01:08:29.000 He's like an amoeba with a high tolerance.

01:08:32.000 Man may be stretching him for you, Dave.

01:08:33.000 Good lord!

01:08:35.000 He just came in hot.

01:08:37.000 He was like, I'm just gonna go all out.

01:08:38.000 He knows I'm friendly.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, I know.

01:08:41.000 Did you, when he was playing, is it Lee Greenwood who does the God Bless the USA song?

01:08:44.000 When you heard that play his phone, did you go, yes?

01:08:48.000 I didn't even realize it.

01:08:50.000 Really?

01:08:50.000 No.

01:08:51.000 God bless the USA.

01:08:54.000 How do you miss that?

01:08:54.000 I don't know.

01:08:55.000 I think I was just more focused on like doodling on my notepad.

01:08:57.000 The only thing more blatant would be if it started playing I'm Too Sexy for my shirt.

01:09:02.000 And then you would have seen me get stripped down in there.

01:09:05.000 I really wanted to do 20 different sketches of what that phone could have rang of.

01:09:09.000 Too sexy for my cloak.

01:09:10.000 Too sexy for this gavel.

01:09:12.000 Oh my gosh, I can't believe that that was my phone.

01:09:16.000 I thought I had it on quiet.

01:09:17.000 Oh dear.

01:09:18.000 Don't get brazen with me!

01:09:19.000 Did you laugh at that?

01:09:21.000 Oh, I don't know if you saw my face.

01:09:23.000 I was like...

01:09:24.000 Yeah, you must have.

01:09:27.000 My cheeks at the end of the trial were so ripped up from how I had to bite my cheeks and lips like the entire trial because there was things that were just happening.

01:09:36.000 So you were able to find levity in moments.

01:09:39.000 Oh yeah.

01:09:39.000 You were able to go like, okay, if I don't laugh, I'll cry.

01:09:41.000 Let me ask you this before we go, because we're going to take questions on Mug Club.

01:09:44.000 So I have two final questions for you.

01:09:46.000 Gage Grosskritt's on the Zoom call falling out of his chair.

01:09:49.000 All-time best part of the trial.

01:09:50.000 Yeah, was it?

01:09:51.000 All-time best.

01:09:53.000 Did you pee a little?

01:09:54.000 I pissed myself.

01:09:57.000 Well, what's funny about it is he was down for a while.

01:10:01.000 Well, because he was probably high.

01:10:02.000 Yeah, I mean, it was like a Charlie Chaplin sketch.

01:10:05.000 It was hilarious.

01:10:06.000 It didn't tip over.

01:10:06.000 It was like when Marv in Home Alone is outside the window, slips on the ice, whoop, he goes straight down.

01:10:11.000 Like, how do you even do that?

01:10:12.000 Oh, no, it was definitely like a director yelled action.

01:10:18.000 You seemed like you were laughing before that on the Zoom call.

01:10:20.000 Oh, I was like, I think I was laughing at something Mark was saying, and then I saw that, and then I was really laughing.

01:10:26.000 Were you worried that if you laughed too much it would be used against you?

01:10:29.000 No, no, I just, um, there was a thing, like, I had to show professionalism there.

01:10:34.000 Yeah.

01:10:36.000 I wouldn't say mission accomplished on that one.

01:10:38.000 So, I'd have to agree.

01:10:39.000 You don't have the best poker face.

01:10:41.000 You were clearly tickled pink.

01:10:43.000 Yep.

01:10:45.000 Everyone was laughing except Gage.

01:10:46.000 Yeah, well, I don't even think he knew where he was.

01:10:48.000 That's true.

01:10:51.000 He was looking around on the ground for his arm.

01:10:52.000 Yeah, he was looking to smoke some arm.

01:10:56.000 Stop, Dave.

01:10:59.000 You can hold it in.

01:11:03.000 He's been holding it in for so long.

01:11:05.000 He's going to get a stress ulcer.

01:11:08.000 It's me.

01:11:08.000 Don't blame him.

01:11:09.000 Send all your lawsuits to him.

01:11:10.000 Send them to me for the joke police.

01:11:16.000 I hope there is some kind of restitution here as far as the libel and slander from the media.

01:11:21.000 You don't have to talk about that, obviously.

01:11:22.000 No, but you deserve it.

01:11:23.000 You should never have to work another day in your life, but work because you want to.

01:11:28.000 Right now we're focusing on Linwood and John Pierce.

01:11:31.000 They're a bunch of liars.

01:11:33.000 I'm not going to say much about them.

01:11:35.000 Well, you just did.

01:11:36.000 They're just a bunch of liars.

01:11:39.000 I'm not going to say much about that piece of human shit.

01:11:42.000 I'll bite my tongue.

01:11:44.000 Well, it's proven liars.

01:11:45.000 Well, he was almost on this show and I said, no, I said, uh, I don't, there's something smells fishy, uh, Linwood.

01:11:51.000 And so we've never had him on the show.

01:11:52.000 You're going to be accused of being deep state now.

01:11:54.000 Really?

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:55.000 Am I?

01:11:56.000 Yeah.

01:11:56.000 Is that what Linwood does?

01:11:57.000 Yeah.

01:11:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:11:59.000 That's just, that's when you start, you realize that it's a grifter where if they just accuse anyone who doesn't like them of being deep state, is he saying you're deep state?

01:12:07.000 Apparently, he's accusing me of being handled, which is just false.

01:12:10.000 I make my own decisions.

01:12:14.000 By a bunch of people, just not him now.

01:12:15.000 I'm being accused of being handled, and I'm not handled.

01:12:18.000 I make my own decisions.

01:12:22.000 What do you have to say to the people that said you went there because of BLM and it was racially motivated?

01:12:28.000 This case has nothing to do with race.

01:12:31.000 It's like nothing.

01:12:33.000 Absolutely zero.

01:12:35.000 Yeah.

01:12:36.000 It just doesn't make any sense.

01:12:38.000 Didn't enter your mind?

01:12:39.000 Not at all.

01:12:40.000 And I just would like to clear the air with that because that was such the staple of the media.

01:12:44.000 Yeah.

01:12:46.000 That I think it's just important to just say that flat out that had nothing to do with what that was about.

01:12:53.000 You mentioned this before the show, and so I just wanted to bring it up.

01:12:57.000 You said that you were just so grateful for people who supported you from the beginning.

01:13:01.000 100%.

01:13:02.000 All the supporters, it just means so much.

01:13:04.000 And the people in my circle, I'll give a quick, long shout out.

01:13:08.000 I think that's the camera you're talking to there.

01:13:10.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:13:11.000 I'll give a quick long shout out to Dave, Dave, LT, Kenny, TC, John, John's husband, Mark, Corey, Natalie, and just everybody who's helped me through this.

01:13:25.000 Without them, we wouldn't be here today.

01:13:27.000 And thank you to all of you guys who've supported us and donated at FreeCalUSA.org.

01:13:33.000 It just means so much to us.

01:13:34.000 Thank you guys.

01:13:35.000 Yeah.

01:13:36.000 We have a lot of people to love you.

01:13:38.000 We'll be getting a chat here on Mug Club in a few minutes, but Yeah, we mourned in a lot of ways with these people.

01:13:45.000 We prayed for you.

01:13:45.000 We had team, you know, kind of prayer groups about it.

01:13:49.000 It was something that weighed heavy on our hearts for a while.

01:13:52.000 He asked me where we had the streamers and confetti from when he was not guilty.

01:13:56.000 I said, you should have seen what we had ready for if you lost.

01:14:03.000 We were all ready to go down to Kenosha.

01:14:06.000 And not, of course, to actually peacefully protest, but peacefully and very effectively.

01:14:14.000 Make our voices heard.

01:14:15.000 It was one where Gerald said it on the show.

01:14:16.000 We said, this is not something we're gonna sit by while a kid gets railroaded.

01:14:21.000 We were ready for it.

01:14:22.000 We were ready to leave, like, the next day.

01:14:23.000 Thank you guys for all the support.

01:14:27.000 I've noticed.

01:14:27.000 I've been a big fan of Mug Club for a while.

01:14:31.000 That's actually, you know what?

01:14:32.000 Was it the FBI or the police who went through your phone?

01:14:35.000 Because you gave it willingly.

01:14:36.000 The feds.

01:14:36.000 Okay, it was the feds.

01:14:38.000 So they would have seen in your history some of our shows.

01:14:41.000 Probably.

01:14:41.000 So we're not on a watch list anymore.

01:14:43.000 There you go.

01:14:44.000 I'll take the win where I can get it.

01:14:47.000 What's that sound?

01:14:47.000 Just a drone?

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:51.000 Steven?

01:14:52.000 Just an R2D2 in a little plane.

01:14:56.000 Okay.

01:14:57.000 Everyone who's watching, thank you so much right now.

01:15:00.000 We're on YouTube.

01:15:01.000 We're going to do some chat.

01:15:02.000 Take it from people on Mug Club, people who've been supporters.

01:15:05.000 And Kyle's going to answer them directly.

01:15:06.000 You can only answer what you want to.

01:15:07.000 You can say pass.

01:15:08.000 It's not like Jimmy Fallon.

01:15:09.000 I'm not going to break any eggs on your head or anything like that.

01:15:11.000 Really?

01:15:12.000 You didn't bring the eggs out?

01:15:13.000 I didn't bring the eggs out.

01:15:14.000 We were practicing before the show.

01:15:16.000 Yeah, I know.

01:15:16.000 Then we said we should probably do comedy.

01:15:18.000 So, Stephen, did this interview stress you?

01:15:21.000 I noticed you got a little gray right here.

01:15:22.000 Oh, jeez.

01:15:23.000 Well, okay.

01:15:23.000 So Dave's fat and I'm gray.

01:15:25.000 Yeah, it's called twins and titanium rib cage.

01:15:29.000 You know, it's nothing compared to your stress.

01:15:30.000 You have no idea what you've just done.

01:15:32.000 Yeah, you almost had to deal with it.

01:15:34.000 He's gonna go dye his hair now.

01:15:35.000 Yes.

01:15:36.000 It's nothing compared to him.

01:15:37.000 I mean, he was almost in the chair with Percy not wetting the sponge.

01:15:40.000 What?

01:15:40.000 You gonna dye it purple, Steven?

01:15:41.000 Yeah, I'm gonna dye it purple.

01:15:42.000 And get a nose ring.

01:15:43.000 And then I will follow you everywhere you go.

01:15:45.000 It's a white supremacy.

01:15:47.000 Cannot win.

01:15:49.000 And then I'll paint with my menstruation and get a job at BuzzFeed. 0.57

01:15:51.000 Alright, people on YouTube.

01:15:52.000 Canvas ass.

01:15:53.000 Smash the like button.

01:15:54.000 Leave a comment below if you want more Ash Wednesdays, because every now and then people say, I don't like Ash Wednesdays, I like Ash Wednesdays, and leave your support for Kyle, because Kyle can go and check the comment section.

01:16:03.000 Usually I would say don't check the comment section.

01:16:05.000 Oh, I do.

01:16:05.000 This will be a good one.

01:16:06.000 Oh, God.

01:16:06.000 Really?

01:16:06.000 Well, you should.

01:16:07.000 Talk about that with your shrink.

01:16:08.000 For crying out loud.

01:16:09.000 Don't do that.

01:16:10.000 Jeez.

01:16:11.000 Do you have any idea the prescriptions he's going to give you?

01:16:13.000 And it's just like, what?

01:16:14.000 Oh, you didn't need Wellbutrin.

01:16:16.000 You just need to stop reading the comment section.

01:16:19.000 Yeah, that's all it is.

01:16:20.000 I'm kidding.

01:16:21.000 YouTube, you're not going to like this part.

Louder with Crowder - December 08, 2021

Kyle Rittenhouse IN STUDIO! Sit-down & Cigars With Crowder | Louder with Crowder

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