Megan Kelly joins host Alex Blumberg to discuss Super Trump and the China virus, and why women should be meek in a time of crisis. Plus, an exclusive interview with CNN's Tara Reid about the Vice President's appearance at the CNN primary debate.
00:02:16.000By the way, your YouTube is Megyn Kelly and the Twitter is Megyn Kelly.
00:02:19.000She's been doing some wonderful work, which we'll get to in a second.
00:02:21.000Also, your exclusive interview with Tara Reid because that's incredibly relevant tonight.
00:02:25.000But Megyn, I wanted to ask you something.
00:02:27.000As someone who's moderated these debates in the past, specifically watched Pence there on stage in person, what do you expect to go down tonight?
00:02:39.000I think it's basically the Hippocratic Oath.
00:03:02.000And Pence, you know, he needs to be the statesman, sort of the Yin-Trump-Xiang, and remind people that he can be serious and he can be solid and he's not going to be, you know, with the hands and the mask and he's going to be like the one that people can count on in a time of crisis.
00:03:16.000Oh my gosh, you gotta go back to that.
00:03:17.000That's a Slate article waiting to happen, Megyn Kelly.
00:03:19.000him seeming serious and like the adult in the White House and her being like,
00:03:23.000I'm not even here. It's all about Trump.
00:03:25.000Oh my gosh, you got to go back to that.
00:03:27.000That's a Slate article waiting to happen, Megyn Kelly.
00:03:29.000Megyn Kelly says women should be meek.
00:03:35.000I think Joe Biden did the right thing too, but if I were him I would have been even more silent that last debate.
00:03:39.000Just like, let Trump be Trump and let him remind everybody that he does things that are controversial and you just be over there like, who me?
00:04:07.000Today, Trump gave that impromptu statement at the White House, and he was out in front of the White House, and my kids and I were—he had, like, the full-body shot.
00:04:14.000I mean, if you just—I challenge you to put that on and just keep doing everything he did in unison with him.
00:04:19.000It was crazy, it was like out of hand.
00:04:22.000Yeah, it's like he's doing it just for your kids, doing a sing-along.
00:04:29.000How would you grade, and I know this is tough for you, Megan, because you've worked with him, and obviously now you do so much on your own at YouTube.com slash Megyn Kelly.
00:04:59.000You should not have been a freaking guest!
00:05:02.000How would you grade Chris Wallace's performance with the last debate?
00:05:05.000Because obviously there was a lot of fallout, where people didn't think he was... I don't think he was particularly unbiased.
00:05:12.000I don't think it was as bad as people said.
00:05:13.000I do think he stepped in to save Biden, which in my opinion is not a very good look.
00:05:19.000So, okay, that's where I can defend him on the stepping in to save Biden a couple of times when he was on the ropes.
00:05:24.000Because as a moderator, when the time is ticking away and one candidate won't be quiet or keeps interrupting, All you're thinking is, holy shit, I've lost total control of this hour.
00:05:34.000I'm not going to get to this entire list of questions.
00:05:37.000The debate is going to feel unfair because I needed to get to this part.
00:05:41.000So all you're really looking to do when it's gone on too long is shut them up so you can move on.
00:05:46.000And so I think a couple times he was just trying to wrap Biden, or Trump and Biden, so he could just move on.
00:05:51.000And in an attempt to do that, he kind of quickly gave it to Biden.
00:05:54.000And that wound up looking bad for Chris.
00:05:56.000But I think the fair criticisms of Chris had to do with how some of the questions were loaded with information that was obviously bad for Trump and not really fair to Trump.
00:06:07.000Like, you know, you wouldn't condemn white supremacy and what happened at Charlottesville and, you know, it was sort of written by somebody who had been accepting the New York Times headlines, which is not like him.
00:06:19.000Yeah, well, you know, I don't just think it was, would you condemn white supremacy, which Donald Trump has done many times, but saying, would you condemn white supremacy?
00:06:28.000And listen, there are valid criticisms against the Proud Boys.
00:06:30.000Namely, I just don't like joining large groups of people because I don't like gangs, but white supremacy is not one of them.
00:06:36.000I mean, the guy who runs it is a black Cuban right now, so that's one of those things that Americans who know about the Proud Boys, who watch the interview go, okay, even if I don't like the Proud Boys, that was a really unfair intermingling of two separate points, but forcing one answer.
00:06:53.000I mean, honestly, I like most people just assumed it was some white supremacy group because Biden specifically threw it out when Trump was like, name one.
00:06:59.000And I hadn't, I mean, I follow the news and even I was like, cowboys, what do they do?
00:07:02.000I know there's so many groups, it's hard to keep track, but they've gotten the best press of their life the last week, right?
00:07:06.000Like now it's like, everybody knows who they are.
00:07:09.000But my own read of that moment with Trump was, Chris asked him, will you condemn white supremacy?
00:07:51.000That's true when you're Dare, and like when you're a kid, and you know, you take Dare, and they want you to like roll around in the mud or whatever they want you to do, and they're like, do it, do it, and then you're suddenly like...
00:07:59.000I don't like you, and I don't like this game, and peace out.
00:08:29.000Why did I only learn this in my fourth, almost fifth decade of life?
00:08:33.000That's because girls are earnest, right?
00:08:35.000Girls mature earlier, and for some reason that maturity comes with this idea that they have to be honest and they'll get into less trouble.
00:08:41.000We know that it's always better to not get caught.
00:08:45.000Largely because we probably get our asses beaten by our moms more than girls, and rightfully so.
00:09:07.000I always get 60 minutes and Charlie Rose confused because I can't tell the difference between fossils.
00:09:11.000So what's your read on that and how much relevance do you think it plays into any of this considering that Kamala Harris said she believed Biden's accusers?
00:09:21.000So that interview will have nothing to do with anything tonight, because it was in Australia, and people aren't even watching American 60 Minutes as much as they used to, never mind the Australian version.
00:09:31.000And I do think a lot of people saw that Tara Reid interview that I did, because I put it on YouTube, but most people just grabbed it.
00:09:37.000All the television networks grabbed it, and it actually wound up being seen by way more people than people who watched 60 Minutes.
00:10:22.000Let me ask you this, kind of shifting pace there, because you mentioned Brett Kavanaugh and kind of getting into the legal side.
00:10:28.000You obviously have a legal background.
00:10:29.000What do you think about the declassifying right now with all the sort of, I guess, Russiagate, Spygate, whatever you want to call it at this point, all of these documents.
00:10:37.000Do you think that was planned as an October surprise from the Trump camp?
00:10:49.000They knew about it, and the timing is not a coincidence, and it's probably not the only thing to come out, but I don't think it's going to do anything.
00:10:55.000I mean, you tell me the media outlet, other than maybe Fox, maybe even the Washington Examiner, I don't even know if the Journal will go with it, that's really going to pump that story.
00:11:07.000They don't want to hear anything that's bad for him or good for Trump.
00:11:10.000Their coverage thus far has been 90% bad for President Trump, all along negative about President Trump, so why would they change this closeout?
00:11:19.000I think the only way maybe it would be undeniable is if something comes out where Biden knew about it as well, and they would have to ask him directly.
00:11:29.000You know, something sort of popped up in the declassified documents that no longer ever does.
00:11:34.000Steve, remember what happened when President Trump made a major step toward not achieving peace in the Middle East, but a major step toward it?
00:12:46.000Really, CNN suffices as a fill-in for MSNBC, but The Daily is maybe one from what you're telling me that I should also be paying attention to.
00:12:52.000I like The Daily because I don't have to deal with those personalities you just listed, which I have no desire to deal with, and I'm really not a consumer of their news product.
00:13:03.000Read as much as I can from the left and the right.
00:13:04.000I go to RealClearPolitics.com every morning, and they've collected editorials from left and right, and if you put one on top of the other on the same subject, a set of facts will emerge.
00:13:19.000By the way, he's going to be a competition to you, Keith Olbermann.
00:13:22.000Apparently he'll be hosting some ESPN political show on YouTube.
00:13:25.000I don't know what kind of cosmic bunny hole I jumped into where Keith Olbermann leaves a news network, goes to a sports network, to only have them relegate him to the online political news commentary on their YouTube channel, but that's where we are.
00:17:52.000Speaking of which, do you know that on this day in history last week, Donald Trump was diagnosed with COVID and now it's like it never happened.
00:18:54.000Let's forgive the fact that he was a glorified pedophile with an ice cream truck because he wrote Smooth Criminal.
00:19:01.000Loudearthcrowder.com also slash WhitmerDeathToll, where you can go and submit your own FOIA request and print your WhitmerDeathToll posters.
00:19:08.000There have been a lot of those in Michigan right now, and the Supreme Court just struck down her unconstitutional executive orders.
00:19:13.000Costume contest after this, of course, where we will give the winner a lock of Gerald's hair.
00:19:20.000Anytime the Vice President gets a leading unfair question he has to defend Trump's character or the moderator teams up with Kamala and you hear this ding!
00:19:30.000Anytime Kamal Harris gets a softball question, dodges the question, cackles evilly, not sure if that's spelled correctly, or tries to be hip, namely listing rappers who've been dead for the last two and a half decades as their currently active favorite rapper, then you have to just down your drink.
00:19:47.000Let me tell you, this is what I think tonight, and then I want to go to you guys because the stream's about to start really quickly.
00:19:53.000As far as what Pence needs, he needs a tie.
00:19:56.000He needs a tie because there's the identity politics of white straight male and then there's white pence.
00:20:06.000He is very good at staying on point, but Kamala Harris is a dirty fighter.
00:20:09.000She's very aggressive as a prosecutor, right?
00:20:11.000But she doesn't do so well on her heels.
00:20:13.000And so I think what Pence needs to do is be disciplined, but tear a little bit of a page from Trump's book, really more a page from Andrew Breitbart's book, and cut her off at the pass.
00:20:20.000If she starts bringing up white supremacy, you can just say, Kamala, do you believe I'm a white supremacist?
00:20:33.000I think if Kamala isn't ready to answer some of those really tough questions that she got during the early debates, she's going to have a big problem.
00:20:40.000I think she will have prepared a lot, especially... The only one she didn't answer was that Joe Biden's a racist and rapist.
00:21:36.000He can't look like another version of Donald Trump.
00:21:39.000He's got to look like somebody who's a little bit more humble and a little bit more ready to pounce when the information is incorrect, but let you speak long enough to hang yourself.
00:21:47.000He needs to front load it heavy with facts.
00:21:49.000In other words, come out and rat-tat-tat-tat-tat and then give her enough space so that that
00:21:53.000way he can cut her off at the pass and then he can be mobile, he can be fleet of foot,
00:21:56.000you know, so that he can move around her a little bit.
00:21:59.000But he's got to come out and front load it.
00:22:01.000Be front heavy with the facts, with the information.
00:22:05.000That then allows him to be a little more flexible so that he can show that he can go off book, because I think it's a question mark with Vice President Pence, as well as if he is going to have to fight off Kamala Harris and a moderator.
00:22:17.000It allows him to get his info out and then it's less consequential.
00:22:20.000So hopefully people there are taking notes.
00:22:42.000I expect her to go identity politics a little bit.
00:22:44.000You know, what she does need to do is she does need to resolve some sort of conflicting agendas, right?
00:22:48.000This sort of radical progressive left agenda.
00:22:51.000And then there's the sort of establishment agenda, right?
00:22:54.000People try to say she's a moderate, where I think she was actually rated as the most liberal member of the Senate, not including favors to Willie Brown.
00:23:02.000And then she has, of course, this really crazy, harsh agenda, a long track record as a prosecuting attorney.
00:23:28.000Kamala Harris has done more to mass-incarcerate non-violent drug offenders, people of color, and enslave them really to the state beyond their sentence in some cases, and let the big criminals who are causing real damage go.
00:24:15.000So unless she has done something in the last couple months to learn what her positions are and come out there and articulate them clearly, she will fail to, again, inspire anyone to come out and vote.
00:24:24.000And that's what this will turn into, is turnout.
00:24:27.000Yeah, and I noticed they have plexiglass between them because that stops a virus, but I'm hoping that someone gets checked into the boards like a roller hockey player.
00:26:24.000We're meeting as President Trump and the First Lady continue to undergo treatment in Washington after testing positive for COVID-19.
00:26:32.000We send our thoughts and prayers to them for their rapid and complete recovery and for the recovery of everyone afflicted by the coronavirus.
00:26:41.000The two campaigns and the Commission on Presidential Debates have agreed to the ground rules for tonight.
00:26:46.000I'm here to enforce them on behalf of the millions of Americans who are watching.
00:26:52.000One note, no one in either campaign or at the Commission or anywhere else has been told in advance what topics I'll raise or what questions I'll ask.
00:27:03.000This 90-minute debate will be divided into nine segments of about 10 minutes each.
00:27:07.000I'll begin a segment by posing a question to each of you, sometimes the same question, sometimes a different question on the same topic.
00:27:15.000You will then have two minutes to answer without interruption by me or the other candidate.
00:27:21.000Then we'll take six minutes or so to discuss the issue.
00:27:25.000At that point, although there will always be more to say, we'll move on to the next topic.
00:27:29.000Is she reading out the rule card to Ripley?
00:27:31.000We want a debate that is lively, but Americans also deserve a discussion that is civil.
00:27:37.000These are tumultuous times, and we're gaining will through respectful exchange about the big issues facing our nation.
00:27:47.000Let's begin with the ongoing pandemic that has cost our country.
00:27:53.000Senator Harris, the coronavirus is not under control.
00:27:58.000Over the past week, Johns Hopkins reports that 39 states have had more COVID cases over the past seven days than in the week before.
00:32:00.000He said it was xenophobic and hysterical.
00:32:03.000But I can tell you, having led the White House Coronavirus Task Force, that that decision alone by President Trump bought us invaluable time to stand up the greatest national mobilization since World War II.
00:32:15.000And I believe it saved hundreds of thousands of American lives.
00:32:19.000Because with that time, we were able to reinvent more than 150 million tests.
00:32:24.000We were able to see to the delivery of billions of supplies so our doctors and nurses had the resources and support they needed.
00:32:32.000And we began, really, before the month of February was out, to develop a vaccine and to develop medicines and therapeutics that have been saving lives all along the way.
00:32:41.000And under President Trump's leadership, Operation Warp Speed, we believe we'll have Literally tens of millions of doses of a vaccine before the end of this year.
00:34:52.000But when you say what the American people have done over these last eight months hasn't worked, that's a great disservice to the sacrifices the American people have made.
00:35:06.000The reality is, Dr. Fauci said, everything that he told the President in the Oval Office, the President told the American people.
00:35:13.000Now, President Trump, I will tell you, has boundless confidence in the American people, and he always spoke with confidence that we'd get through this together.
00:35:20.000But when you say it hasn't worked, When Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx and our medical experts came to us in the second week of March, they said if the president didn't take the unprecedented step of shutting down roughly half of the American economy, that we could lose 2.2 million Americans.
00:35:49.000But the American people, I believe, deserve credit for the sacrifices that they have made, putting the health of their family and their neighbors first, our doctors, our nurses, our first responders.
00:36:14.000And now a cluster of coronavirus cases among those who were there.
00:36:18.000How can you expect Americans to follow the administration's safety guidelines to protect themselves from COVID when you at the White House have not been doing so?
00:36:29.000Well, the American people have demonstrated over the last eight months that when given
00:36:35.000the facts, they're willing to put the health of their families and their neighbors and
00:37:53.000Consistently talk about mandates, and not just mandates with the coronavirus, but a government takeover of healthcare, the Green New Deal, all government control.
00:38:03.000Let's talk about respecting the American people.
00:38:08.000You respect the American people when you tell them the truth.
00:38:11.000You respect the American people when you have the courage to be a leader speaking of those things that you may not want people to hear but they need to hear so they can protect themselves.
00:38:50.000They've had to sacrifice far too much in blue states where their economy is not recovering and they have higher deaths than states like Texas and Florida that have not had lockdown.
00:40:43.000Well thank you, but I would like to go back.
00:40:45.000Because the reality is, we're going to have a vaccine in record time, in unheard of time, in less than a year.
00:40:54.000We have five companies in phase three clinical trials, and we're right now producing tens of millions of doses.
00:41:04.000The fact that you continue to undermine public confidence in a vaccine, if the vaccine emerges during the Trump administration, I think is is unconscionable.
00:41:16.000Stop playing politics with people's lives.
00:41:19.000The reality is that we will have a vaccine before the end of this year.
00:41:25.000And it will have the capacity to save countless American lives.
00:41:29.000And your continuous undermining of confidence in a vaccine, it's just unacceptable.
00:41:37.000And let me also say, you know, the reality is when you talk about failure in this administration, We actually do know what failure looks like in a pandemic.
00:43:38.000And And, um, the thought that I'd be sitting here right now eats up the time.
00:43:46.000She's eating up the time right now so that there's no accountability in her answers.
00:43:51.000And I hate to say, but ain't that just like some women?
00:43:54.000About the value and the dignity of public service, and about the importance of fighting for the dignity of all people.
00:44:01.000And I think Joe asked me to serve with him because, you know, I have a career that included being the last nearest woman to the training and exam system, where I created models of innovation for law enforcement in terms of reform of the criminal justice system.
00:45:46.000And let me say on behalf of the President, And the First Lady, how moved we've all been by the outpouring of prayers and concern for the President.
00:46:00.000And I do believe it's emblematic of the prayers and the concern that have ushered forth for every American impacted by the coronavirus.
00:46:08.000But the care the President received at Walter Reed Hospital, White House doctors, was exceptional.
00:46:15.000And the transparency that they practiced all along the way will continue.
00:46:19.000The American people have a right to know about the health and well-being of their president, and we'll continue to do that.
00:46:26.000But I'm just extremely grateful, and was more than a little moved by the broad and bipartisan support.
00:46:35.000Senator, I want to thank you and Joe Biden for your expressions of genuine concern.
00:46:39.000And I also want to congratulate you, as I did on that phone call, on the historic nature of your nomination.
00:46:49.000I never expected to be on this stage four years ago, so I know the feeling.
00:47:54.000And just so everyone is clear, when we say in debt, it means you owe money to somebody.
00:48:00.000And it'd be really good to know that the President of the United States, the Connecticut people, owes money because the American people have a right to know.
00:48:10.000What is influencing the President's decisions?
00:48:13.000And is he making those decisions on the best interest of the American people, of you?
00:49:19.000But the distinction here is that Joe Biden, 47 years in public service, compared to President Donald Trump, who brought all of that experience four years ago, and turned this economy around by cutting taxes, rolling back regulations.
00:49:33.000They don't want to give him the same amount of time that they're giving him.
00:49:35.000Now he needs to be shorter, he needs to be more succinct.
00:49:38.000But they are not giving him the same amount of time as they're giving her.
00:49:41.000That's a good segue into our third topic, which is about the economy.
00:49:45.000This has been another aspect of life for Americans.
00:50:48.000On the issue of the economy, I think there couldn't be a more fundamental difference between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
00:50:55.000Joe Biden believes you measure the health and the strength of America's economy based on the health and the strength of the American worker and the American family.
00:51:05.000On the other hand, you have Donald Trump who measures the strength of the economy based on how rich people are doing.
00:51:13.000which is why he passed a tax bill benefiting the top 1% and the biggest corporations in America,
00:51:20.000leading to a $2 trillion deficit that the people of America have to pay for.
00:51:25.000On day one, Joe Biden will repeal that tax bill.
00:52:26.000It takes a lot of energy to mine those materials, to put those up, and then they're incredibly energy inefficient, so you have to rely on whatever else you have, which is usually coal and natural gas, as opposed to nuclear energy.
00:53:45.000I mean, right after a time where we're going through a pandemic that lost 22 million jobs at the height.
00:53:53.000She doesn't know what to do, that's why.
00:53:55.000We've already added back 11.6 million jobs.
00:53:57.000Because we had a president who cut taxes, rolled back regulation, unleashed American energy, fought for free and fair trade, and secured four trillion dollars for the Congress of the United States.
00:54:01.000This is a very clear-cut example of a man running on a record.
00:54:59.000The American economy, the American comeback is on the ballot.
00:55:03.000With four more years of growth and opportunity, four more years of President Donald Trump, 2021 is going to be the biggest economic year in the history of this country.
00:55:15.000Well, I mean, I thought we saw enough of it in last week's debate, but I think this is supposed to be a debate based on fact and truth.
00:55:20.000and the truth in the facts is, Bill Biden has been very clear
00:56:12.000Joe Biden is the one who, during the Great Recession, was responsible... For making it worse.
00:56:19.000...for the Recovery Act that brought America back, and now the Trump-Pence administration wants to take credit When they rode the coattails of Joe Biden's success for the economy that they had at the beginning of 2019.
00:56:33.000You can't opt for those opposite policies.
00:56:35.000We're trying to keep this straight while we're fact-checking.
00:56:37.000Kamala Harris just claimed that the economy that you are seeing, obviously before COVID in 2020-2019,
00:56:43.000was a rip-roaring success because of Joe Biden.
00:56:47.000When the guy who was actually running the game while Joe Biden was president,
00:56:51.000unemployment was still pretty much, oh, I think the average is about twice what it was with Donald Trump.
00:58:04.000Senator Harris, you're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.
00:58:09.000You yourself said on multiple occasions when you were running for president that you would ban fracking.
00:58:16.000Joe Biden looked at a supporter in the eye and pointed and said, I guarantee, I guarantee that we will abolish fossil fuels.
00:58:25.000They have a $2 trillion version of the Green New Deal, Susan, that your newspaper USA Today said really wasn't that very different from the original Green New Deal.
00:58:33.000Oh, by the way, more taxes, more regulations, banning fracking, abolishing fossil fuel, crushing American energy, and economic serenity to China.
00:58:44.000is a prescription for economic decline.
00:58:45.000Having Americans in charge of their own fossil fuels is more eco-friendly than Saudi Arabia.
00:59:08.000This year we've seen record-setting hurricanes in the South.
00:59:11.000Another one, Hurricane Delta, is now threatening the Gulf.
00:59:14.000And we have seen record-setting wildfires in the West.
00:59:17.000Do you believe, as the scientific community has concluded, that man-made climate change has made wildfires bigger, hotter, and more deadly?
00:59:28.000By the way, while you're cherry picking facts, how about you bring up the fact that we have record high Great Lakes and record crop yield in the Midwest.
00:59:35.000And by the way, the most temperate climates that we have seen in places like the Midwest and Texas.
01:00:06.000Oh by the way, drink, because that was obviously leading to questions.
01:00:07.000The issue is, what's the cause and what do we do about it?
01:00:12.000President Trump has made it clear that we're going to continue to listen to the science.
01:00:15.000Now Joe Biden and Kamala Harris would put us back in the Paris Climate Accord.
01:00:20.000They'd impose the Green New Deal, which would crush American energy.
01:00:24.000No, you won't do it or you will do it, Kamala?
01:00:27.000Yes, if we hold our feet to the fire in the Green New Deal, because that's a five-page bill that takes over everything.
01:00:33.000President Trump and I believe that the progress that we have made in a clean environment has been happening precisely because we have a strong free market economy.
01:00:44.000You know what's remarkable is the United States has reduced CO2 more than the countries that are still in the Paris Climate Accord.
01:01:19.000They said they were going to ban fracking.
01:01:21.000The reason they have to pivot from that is not just because it's created jobs, but because people now understand that fracking is actually better for the environment than having to bring oil over on tankers across volatile waters.
01:01:30.000People are understanding that now more and more.
01:01:32.000At first it was, oh, chemicals in the ground, and I saw that guy who has a Young Turks show who lit a faucet on fire.
01:01:37.000Then people said, oh, there's a video of that happening in the 50s.
01:02:31.000Answer the question on Green New Deal, sweetheart.
01:02:33.000I will repeat that Joe Biden has been very clear that he thinks about growing jobs, which is why he will not increase taxes for anyone who makes less than $400,000 a year.
01:02:46.000Joe Biden's economic plan, Moody's, which is a reputable Wall Street firm, has said we'll create 7 million more jobs than Donald Trump's.
01:02:57.000And part of those jobs that will be created by Joe Biden are going to be about clean energy and renewable energy.
01:03:04.000Because you see, Joe understands that the west coast of our country is burning, including my home state of California.
01:03:12.000Joe sees what is happening in the Gulf States, which is being battered by storms.
01:03:15.000answer. Will you pack your cords? Let me tell you, Joe Biden has great hair. Green New Deal.
01:03:22.000Let me tell you, Joe Biden will not raise taxes on anyone making more than the president.
01:09:37.000It'd be a shame if someone drove an old Pinto in here and left the keys in the ignition.
01:09:42.000Everybody knows that NAFTA cost literally thousands of American factories to close.
01:09:48.000They saw automotive jobs go south of the border.
01:09:50.000President Trump fought the Democratic voters in Michigan, in the Rust Belt, who have really parted ways.
01:09:58.000I'll go back to that in a second because it's a good strategy.
01:10:01.000Senator Kamala Harris was one of only 10 members of the Senate to vote against the USMCA.
01:10:07.000It was a huge win for American autoworkers.
01:10:09.000It was a huge win for American farmers, especially dairy in the upper Midwest.
01:10:15.000But Senator, you recently didn't go far enough on climate change that you put your radical environmental agenda ahead of American autoworkers and ahead of American jobs.
01:10:27.000I think the American people deserve to know this.
01:10:30.000Newsweek Magazine said that Kamala Harris was the most liberal member of the United States Senate in 2019.
01:10:39.000He's trying to say, hey look, if you actually look at our policies, if you look at the equitable trade agreements, we created more American jobs, we encouraged businesses to return this manufacturing to the United States, right?
01:10:47.000He's talking about giving a fishing pole, and lures, and bait, and bobbers, and she's just like, take back the fucking fish!
01:10:55.000The President Trump is not happy about it.
01:11:51.000Senator Harris, let me ask you the same question that I asked the Vice President.
01:11:55.000How would you describe our fundamental relationship?
01:11:58.000For those who are watching online, you can't see Steven.
01:12:01.000He's cleaning up the mess he made when he was very, very angry about stupid answers.
01:12:06.000Susan, the Trump administration's perspective and approach to China has resulted in the loss of American lives, American jobs, and America's standing.
01:12:23.000There's a weird obsession that President Trump has had with getting rid of whatever accomplishment was achieved by President Obama and Vice President Biden.
01:12:35.000For example, they created within the White House an office that basically was responsible for monitoring pandemics.
01:13:36.000Pew, a reputable research firm, has done an analysis that shows that leaders of all of our formerly allied countries, analytize that they hold a greater esteem than the fact that J.P.
01:15:40.000But Donald Trump, the commander-in-chief of the United States of America, prefers to take the word of Vladimir Putin over the word of the American intelligence community.
01:18:17.000Baghdadi had held her for 18 months, abused her mercilessly before they killed her.
01:18:23.000But when Joe Biden was vice president, they hesitated for a month.
01:18:28.000And when armed forces finally went in, it was clear she'd been moved two days earlier.
01:18:33.000And her family says with a heart that broke the heart of every American that if President Donald Trump had been president, they believed Kayla would be alive today.
01:18:59.000You let her go on with not answering the Green New Deal question, but he's actually talking about a life saved from Islamic terrorist pricks?
01:20:25.000Just hop off a mayor's willy for five minutes if you find the time, sweetheart.
01:20:29.000That's been rebuffed, that's been rebuked, that's been debunked by over ten sources, including John Bolton, who really wants it to be true.
01:20:36.000And by the way, there are email records.
01:20:38.000The reason Donald Trump didn't visit those troops in that scenario was in fact because of weather.
01:20:53.000I said that Donald Trump did not perform as he needed to at the last debate.
01:20:56.000In this scenario, this is remarkable when you look at the specifics and the actual facts and data that Mike Pence has been reciting and then the kind of cheap attacks like that that you see from her.
01:21:08.000The debunked attacks that only CNN and MSNBC and ABC are still carrying.
01:22:08.000My son is a captain in the United States Marine Corps.
01:22:10.000My son-in-law is deployed in the United States Navy.
01:22:13.000I can assure all of you, with sons and daughters serving in our military, President Donald Trump not only respects but reveres all of those who serve in our armed forces.
01:22:23.000And any suggestion otherwise is ridiculous.
01:22:26.000Let me also say- Thank you, Vice President Pence.
01:22:28.000The American people deserve- Susan, the American people deserve to know- Vice President Pence, I did not- Excuse me.
01:22:32.000Susan, the American people deserve to know- I did not create the rules for tonight.
01:22:36.000Your campaign agreed to the rules for tonight's debate with the Commission on President.
01:22:42.000You also agreed to the rules with the nominee for Supreme Court hearing and you accuse him of gang rape.
01:22:47.000You also agreed to rules to try and focus on policy.
01:22:50.000You've let her skirt every single answer and then she came out and said that he called the troops losers and suckers, which by the way has been entirely debunked.
01:22:58.000There is no verification on that at all other than anonymous sources saying that they heard Donald Trump say mean words.
01:23:04.000That's the platform of the Democratic Party!
01:23:39.000I'll use a little bit of my time to respond to that very important issue.
01:23:42.000The American people deserve to know, Qasem Soleimani, the Iranian general, was responsible for the death of hundreds of American service members.
01:23:52.000When the opportunity came, we saw him headed to Baghdad to kill more Americans.
01:24:47.000And she will bring a lifetime of experience and a sizable American family to the Supreme Court of the United States.
01:24:55.000And our hope is in the next week, unlike Justice Kavanaugh received with treatment from you and others, we hope she gets a fair hearing.
01:25:03.000And we particularly hope that we don't see the kind of attacks on her Christian faith that we saw before.
01:25:10.000I mean, the Democrat chairman of the Judiciary Committee before When Judge Barrett was being confirmed for the Court of Appeals, expressed concern that the dogma of her faith lived loudly in her.
01:25:25.000Dick Durbin of Illinois said- That is true.
01:25:27.000Kamala Harris has a very, very well-known anti-Catholic history.
01:25:29.000Senator, I know one of our judicial nominees, you actually attacked- Well, this was, I think, Donna Feinstein said that.
01:25:33.000Because they were a member of the Catholic Knights of Columbus- Yeah, but also, she's one of the worst.
01:25:36.000Just because the Knights of Columbus- Unless they're a Catholic priest molesting kids- Thank you, thank you, Vice President.
01:25:40.000Where she failed to prosecute too much paperwork, so she went after non-violent drug offenders who were black.
01:25:44.000But outside of that, she's spoken out against and criticized people of Catholic faith.
01:25:50.000Senator Harris, you're the Senator from and former Attorney General of California, so let me ask you a parallel question to the one I posed to the Vice President.
01:25:58.000If Roe v. Wade is overturned, what would you want your home state to have?
01:26:05.000No restrictions on access to abortion.
01:26:16.000And it's insulting to suggest that we would knock anyone for their faith.
01:26:22.000And in fact, Joe, if elected, will be only the second practicing Catholic as President of the United States.
01:26:32.000We're getting a little loose with the term practicing.
01:26:35.000Joe and I are very clear, as are the majority of the American people, we are 27 days before the decision about who will be the next president of the United States.
01:26:45.000And, you know, before when this conversation has come up, you know, it's been about election year or election time.
01:28:00.000Well, it could pose mental risk as well, like she just can't handle having a child.
01:28:04.000And by the way, she's also a fascist because she would overturn over 400 limitations on abortions that have been imposed by states, which is what was on their right.
01:28:10.000Let's go back to her not answering the question.
01:28:12.000You can't stay on your parents' coverage anymore.
01:28:19.000If there weren't basement losers voting for Democrats, they'd have no base.
01:28:24.000There's some 26-year-old right now who's like, yeah, she's speaking my language, I want to be in my parents' health blue wave!
01:28:33.000You know, you mentioned earlier, Vice President Pence, that the President was committed to maintaining protections for people with pre-existing conditions.
01:28:44.000But you do have this court case that you are supporting, your administration is supporting, that would strike down the Affordable Care Act.
01:29:14.000There's protecting pre-existing conditions and then guaranteeing affordable insurance.
01:29:17.000How do you have everyone get on insurance after they develop diabetes from a diet of fried Snickers and gym socks, and then they say, well, I'd like to purchase insurance now?
01:29:29.000You can either have an exemption for pre-existing conditions, but it will have to be expensive, unless all Americans want to see a multi-hundred percent increase in premiums and deductibles, as we have seen under Obamacare.
01:30:05.000Are you and Joe Biden going to pack the court?
01:30:07.000Shark with laser beam attached to his head.
01:30:09.000I mean, there have been 29 vacancies on the Supreme Court during presidential election
01:30:13.000years from George Washington to Barack Obama.
01:30:16.000Presidents have nominated in all 29 cases.
01:30:19.000But your party is actually openly advocating adding seats to the Supreme Court, which has had nine seats for 150 years, if you don't get your way.
01:30:29.000This is a classic case of if you can't win by the rules, you're going to change the rules.
01:30:33.000Now, you've refused to answer the question.
01:30:35.000Joe Biden has refused to answer the question.
01:30:37.000So I think the American people would really like to know.
01:30:40.000If Judge Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed to the Supreme Court of the United States, are you and Joe Biden, if somehow you win this election, going to somehow hack the Supreme Court to get your way?
01:30:51.000I'm so glad we went through a little history lesson.
01:32:17.000American people deserve a straight answer.
01:32:19.000If you haven't figured it out yet, the straight answer is they are going to pack the Supreme Court if they somehow win this election.
01:32:27.000Men and women, I gotta tell you, people across this country, if you cherish our Supreme Court, if you cherish the separation of powers, you need to reject the Biden-Parish ticket.
01:32:36.000Come November the 3rd, re-elect President Donald Trump, and we'll stand by that separation of powers in a nine-seat Supreme Court.
01:32:42.000Yeah, let's talk about packing the court then.
01:32:50.000There's plenty to ask you to get an answer!
01:32:51.000The Trump administration has been, because I sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Susan, as you mentioned, and I have witnessed the appointments, for lifetime appointments, to the federal courts, district courts, courts of appeal.
01:33:04.000People who are purely ideological, people who have been reviewed by legal professional organizations and found to have been not competent, are substandard.
01:33:15.000And do you know that of the 50 people Who President Trump appointed to the Court of Appeals for lifetime appointments.
01:33:39.000Moderator, do- I'm sorry, but do your fucking job.
01:33:41.000Otherwise, we're going to see for years to come people saying this is why broads shouldn't moderate debates when there are broads on stage.
01:33:48.000I get your little sisterhood of the traveling bullshit, but call her on it now.
01:34:49.000Mike Pence's stance on Breonna Taylor, which by the way was in the hall, and from what I understand actually was the one who likely shot at the cops.
01:34:55.000Yeah, that's what the boyfriend said, but then he went back and then he said it again.
01:34:59.000Apparently that's more relevant than a direct question, hey, will you pack the courts, Kamala Harris?
01:35:04.000Hey, why is the Green New Deal on your website?
01:35:06.000It must be nice to be a Democrat woman and have to answer for nothing, whereas when you're Amy Coney Barrett, you have to answer New York Times op-eds as to whether your adoption of underprivileged black children is modern-day slave ownership.
01:35:20.000Must be nice to be Kamala Harris and just never call to account for anything you say or do.
01:36:06.000We need reform of our policing in America and our criminal justice system, which is why Joe and I will immediately ban chokeholds and carotid holes.
01:36:15.000George Floyd would be alive today if we did that.
01:36:17.000George Floyd did not have a chokehold!
01:36:20.000As a matter of fact, it would have been safer if they could have used a chokehold because he actually could have gone unconscious, as opposed to having a knee in his cervical spine, dummy!
01:39:25.000On what it means to enforce the laws of our country, I am the only one on this stage I was going to say, in terms of the question, I want to hear what was the best answer you heard, or question you heard, from Biden.
01:39:43.000And the reason being is that there was a real great question in there.
01:40:33.000You put non-violent drug offenders behind bars and then you supported the Minnesota Freedom Fund that let convicted rapists out!
01:40:42.000The need for racial justice, where a young woman was killed and on the other side there were neo-Nazis carrying tiki torches, shouting racial epithets, anti-semitic slurs, And Donald Trump, when asked about it, said there were fine people on both sides.
01:41:29.000You can go watch my... Type in Stephen Kreider, Donald Trump, white supremacist.
01:41:32.000You can watch the entire video in context where he said several times at that meeting, I'm not talking about white supremacists and neo-Nazis who should be condemned.
01:41:46.000That she's lying and she doesn't plan on you knowing because the moderator isn't doing her job and she knows that the rest of the media will act, will follow suit of that moderator tomorrow morning.
01:41:56.000This should get 500 Pinocchios, which she would proceed to rub back and forth vigorously if it were a mayoral position.
01:42:17.000When you were DA in San Francisco, when you left office, African-Americans were 19 times more likely to be prosecuted for minor drug offenses than whites and Hispanics.
01:42:31.000When your attorney general in California increased the disproportionate incarceration of blacks in California, you did nothing on criminal justice reform in California.
01:42:41.000You didn't lift a finger to pass the First Step Act on Capitol Hill.
01:42:45.000I mean, the reality is your record speaks for itself.
01:42:48.000President Trump and I have fought Thank you, Vice President Pence.
01:45:05.000So I'll tell you, Joe and I are particularly proud of the coalition that we've built around our campaign.
01:45:14.000We probably have one of the broadest coalitions of folks that you've ever seen in a presidential race.
01:45:19.000It doesn't include blacks and Latinos and the typical Democrats, but also independents and Republicans.
01:45:24.000In fact, seven members of President George W. Bush's cabinet are supporting our ticket.
01:45:31.000Uh, we have the support of Colin Powell, Cindy McCain, John Kasich, over 500 generals, retired generals and former national security experts and advisors are supporting our campaign.
01:45:48.000And I believe they are too, because they know that Joe Biden has a deep, deep-seated commitment to fight for our democracy.
01:46:22.000Give me your vote, make it twice, and let's forget about it.
01:46:25.000They're going to be at the inauguration.
01:46:28.000And it is within our power, and if we use our vote, and we use our voice, We will win, and we will not let anyone subvert our democracy with what Donald Trump has been doing, as he did on the debate stage last week, when again in front of 70 million people, he openly attempted to suppress the vote.
01:47:33.000Kamala Harris rattled off a long litany of the establishment in Washington, D.C., an establishment that Joe Biden's been a part of for 47 years.
01:47:41.000President Donald Trump has launched a movement of everyday Americans from every walk of life.
01:47:48.000And I have every confidence that those same Americans that delivered that historic victory in 2016, they see this President's record where we rebuild our military.
01:47:58.000We revived our economy through tax cuts and rolling back regulations, fighting for fair trade, unleashing American energy.
01:48:05.000We appointed conservatives to our federal courts at every level.
01:48:09.000And we stood with the men and women of law.
01:48:12.000I think that movement of Americans has only grown stronger in the last four years.
01:48:18.000When you talk about accepting the outcome of the election, I must tell you, Senator, your party has spent the last three and a half years trying to overturn the results of the last election.
01:48:32.000When Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States, the FBI actually spied on President Trump in my campaign.
01:48:39.000I mean, there were documents released this week that the CIA actually made a referral To the FBI documenting that those allegations were coming from the Hillary Clinton campaign.
01:48:49.000And of course, we've all seen the avalanche.
01:49:03.000And then, Senator Harris, you and your colleagues in the Congress tried to impeach the President of the United States over a phone call.
01:49:13.000And now Hillary Clinton has actually said to Joe Biden that under, in her words, under no circumstances should he concede the election.
01:49:19.000So, let me just say, I think we're going to win this election.
01:49:22.000President Trump and I are fighting every day in courthouses to prevent Joe Biden and Kamala Harris from changing the rules and creating this universal mail-in voting that will create a massive opportunity for voter fraud.
01:51:21.000But that's what prepared you for tonight.
01:51:23.000It's synonymous with the American people.
01:51:26.000You know, I look at the relationship between Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the late justice who we just lost from the Supreme Court, and the late Justice Antonin Scalia.
01:51:36.000They were on polar opposites on the Supreme Court of the United States.
01:51:40.000One very liberal, one very conservative.
01:51:43.000But what's been learned since her passing was the two of them and their families- Because she didn't accuse him of being a neo-Nazi.
01:51:51.000We can debate vigorously as Senator Harris and I have on this stage tonight.
01:51:57.000But when the debate is over... Remind me to go back to... I have a tidbit about changing my mind behind the paywall that would relate to this.
01:52:31.000First of all, I love hearing from our young leaders.
01:52:35.000And when I hear her words, when I hear your words, Brecklin, I know our future is bright.
01:52:41.000Because it is that perspective on who we are and who we should be that is a sign of leadership and is something we should all aspire to be.
01:52:50.000And that, you know, that brings me to Joe.
01:52:52.000And something we should all aspire to blow.
01:52:57.000By the way, there was one death in Charlottesville, which of course, horrible and should be condemned as Donald Trump did.
01:53:03.000That's not even close to the over 30 deaths at the over 500 violent riots with 1,000 officer casualties, 14,000 arrests and 2 billion in damage.
01:56:47.000Come on, someone stuff that guy in a locker. Please? Come on, let's be really clear.
01:56:54.000The question that should have been asked right now, the number one topic that people are discussing outside of this manufactured outrage of Donald Trump showing up on a balcony somewhere like they think he's going to be John Wilkes Booth walking up behind.
01:57:07.000You should be concerned about who's walking up behind him on the balcony.
01:57:10.000They're trying to act as though the main question, which should have been asked tonight, are you going to pack the courts, which Pence did two, you say three times.
01:57:35.000She didn't answer on the Green New Deal, she didn't answer on the packing the courts, she answered on nothing!
01:57:42.000Yeah, on the raising of taxes, didn't answer that, and by the way, CNN, this is exactly like CNN to pivot back to the two things that they think scare Americans the most right now.
01:57:51.000COVID, they've got their death count all the time on that channel, and saying that when Donald Trump loses, he will just stay in office, guys, we have to get him out.
01:58:59.000This is the language of people who all have black eyes and fat lips.
01:59:03.000I feel like every single one of them here were watching this debate like they were in the chair in Total Recard.
01:59:13.000I don't know if it's that way, but I'm wondering if it is that way.
01:59:15.000Well, I'll tell you this, and Abby, I want to get your thoughts on this.
01:59:18.000I was texting with a friend who is an African-American man saying, do you think that she's letting someone else go in a way that maybe she shouldn't?
01:59:29.000And the answer was, are you kidding me?
01:59:40.000I mean there's nothing more patronizing and racist than saying that a woman is unable, a woman or a woman of color or any person of a different gender or race, saying that they can't argue.
01:59:52.000If you've been in a high school debate room, you've seen people of every height, weight, color, deformity, whatever it may be.
02:00:21.000And it has nothing to do with how many women were on the Vice President ticket, how many been on the debate stage, what are skin colors, what are genders.
02:00:47.000Abby Phillips just called Susan Page a racist, sexist, white supremacist.
02:00:53.000Because you let him go over the time for a couple of minutes even though you just went ahead and gave Kamala an extra 30 seconds whenever she wanted.
02:01:00.000She delivered nothing but unsubstantiated attacks and when he would actually go over time he would use it to answer the questions.
02:01:06.000That's a byproduct of cable news, which is take as long as you can to make as few points as you can, that way you get more air time.
02:01:21.000Whereas a comedian comes in, and we know this from, you know, Phyllis Diller said, I didn't learn comedy when I learned how to write, I learned comedy when I learned how to edit.
02:01:27.000If there's a point that you can make in four words, don't use eight. So that's a byproduct, I hate to say it,
02:01:33.000of the sort of Bill O'Reilly, Hannity, all of these sort of cable news conservative leading. You
02:01:40.000can do the same thing on CNN, but typically speaking they have more panels, you know,
02:01:43.000there are two, three, four people, whereas they have more guest segments, on average on Fox
02:01:47.000News, where you take as much time to answer a question as possible.
02:01:51.000So they would do well to have some comedians or comedic writers, some people who work in the entertainment industry, helping them with some of these preparations.
02:01:59.000And I don't mean only people who work in the entertainment industry, but you do need someone who understands.
02:02:04.000When people say, oh, why would you say that?
02:02:06.000Don't you think the office is... Do you not believe that any presidential candidate in the history of the United States would be incredibly well served to have Mark Twain on their prep team?
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