Louder with Crowder - Russia-Ukraine Crisis Explained: Why Europe's on the BRINK OF WAR! | Louder with Crowder

00:00:00.000 Turges 2 and 3 Turges 2 and 3

00:00:36.000 Thank you guys so much for having us.

00:00:41.000 This chicken is delicious.

00:00:42.000 Oh yeah, y'all are welcome anytime.

00:00:44.000 And what does Daddy get for all his hard work?

00:00:48.000 The big piece of chicken!

00:00:50.000 Always good to laugh from her, you know.

00:00:54.000 Chris Rock.

00:00:55.000 I haven't seen that.

00:00:56.000 Oh my gosh, I can't believe you haven't seen that, honey!

00:00:59.000 Yeah, I love Chris Rock.

00:01:00.000 He's so funny.

00:01:01.000 Did you really see it, Ricky?

00:01:03.000 Especially since you're the big comedy fan.

00:01:04.000 I don't think so.

00:01:06.000 Why not?

00:01:07.000 Well, I'm a racist, so...

00:01:12.000 Uh oh. 0.91

00:01:14.000 So, you think black people are... Inferior, right. 1.00

00:01:21.000 And that'd be because of their... Skin color. 0.95

00:01:26.000 So it's not, um... Cultural?

00:01:29.000 No, not at all.

00:01:36.000 Well don't make this dinner all about me.

00:01:38.000 You guys have any plans for Halloween?

00:01:41.000 Yeah, we'll go to Jeff's parents with the kids.

00:01:44.000 I'm sorry, I feel like I need to say something.

00:01:45.000 No, really, it's fine.

00:01:48.000 It's not okay, Jen.

00:01:49.000 Ricky, if you really feel that way about the blacks, I just don't feel like I can be in this relationship anymore.

00:01:59.000 Wait, so you didn't know I was a racist?

00:02:01.000 Of course not.

00:02:02.000 What?

00:02:02.000 You didn't notice how I don't have any black friends and I don't listen to rap music?

00:02:07.000 You never noticed my oversized exclusively white dog?

00:02:12.000 Remember that time I said I wanted Tyler Perry to get waterboarded?

00:02:15.000 I thought you just hated Madea. 1.00

00:02:17.000 Oh, you mean Big Mama's house?

00:02:19.000 No, Madea. 0.66

00:02:20.000 Okay, so the movie where the young black guy dresses up like a spunky old black woman? 0.59

00:02:26.000 Yes, Madea.

00:02:27.000 Um, I think it's fair to say that I'm I'm pretty uncomfortable.

00:02:33.000 I think we should probably go home.

00:02:34.000 Oh, Jeff.

00:02:36.000 Honey, let's all just take a deep breath and try and enjoy our dinner.

00:02:40.000 I totally agree.

00:02:42.000 Do you?

00:02:46.000 This pineapple fried quinoa is fantastic.

00:02:49.000 Oh, Jeff and I just got around to seeing the new Ocean's movie.

00:02:53.000 Ocean's 8, I think it was?

00:02:56.000 Have you all seen it?

00:02:57.000 I loved it.

00:02:59.000 Really?

00:03:01.000 Of course, I'm not a sexist.

00:03:03.000 DriverScoff.com!

00:03:05.000 Um... 0.99

00:03:08.000 You're a strange animal. 0.99

00:03:10.000 That's what I know. 1.00

00:03:12.000 You're a strange animal. 0.99

00:03:14.000 I know the law. 1.00

00:03:16.000 You're a beast. 0.99

00:03:18.000 I know the law. 1.00

00:03:20.000 You're a beast. 0.99

00:03:22.000 I know the law. 1.00

00:03:24.000 You're a beast. 0.99

00:03:26.000 I know the law. 1.00

00:03:28.000 You're a beast. 0.99

00:03:30.000 I know the law. 1.00

00:03:32.000 You're a beast. 0.99

00:03:34.000 I know the law. 1.00

00:03:36.000 You're a beast. 0.98

00:03:38.000 That's called as little of that as I can actually bring in because that is piping hot. 0.98

00:03:51.000 It's supposed to be hot.

00:03:52.000 That is absolutely piping hot.

00:03:54.000 And are we good on sound here?

00:03:56.000 Yeah.

00:03:56.000 I'm sounding muffled and you're sounding clear as bell.

00:03:58.000 Ah, you sound fantastic.

00:03:59.000 Alright, it could just be my head.

00:04:00.000 Not as good as me, but you know, close.

00:04:02.000 Alright, okay.

00:04:02.000 Well, look, just so you know really quickly, Dave Lando's not here.

00:04:06.000 He's back on the wagon.

00:04:08.000 We put out an amber.

00:04:09.000 I don't know which way it is.

00:04:09.000 Off the wagon?

00:04:10.000 I don't know what the expression is.

00:04:11.000 Can you guys let me know early on?

00:04:13.000 I want you guys to comment below and let me know if it's on the wagon, off the wagon.

00:04:17.000 Because if you're on the wagon, The point is, he's a drunk.

00:04:20.000 We have no idea where he is.

00:04:22.000 He might be on his way in later, but don't worry, we have a lot to discuss today.

00:04:26.000 Namely, we're going to be talking about Russia and the Ukraine.

00:04:28.000 And I know, before your eyes glaze over, mine did too.

00:04:31.000 It matters.

00:04:32.000 It does matter.

00:04:33.000 But that's not how you get people interested. 0.96

00:04:35.000 There will be Russian breasts. 0.99

00:04:39.000 Look, if they can do it in their own news, certainly we can talk about them doing it. 0.95

00:04:42.000 Yes, you can order Wife from Amazon Prime. 0.98

00:04:47.000 And become president!

00:04:48.000 So, we'll be talking about Russia and Ukraine.

00:04:50.000 Just really quickly, if we get booted, because you never know what's going to happen with the YouTube when you're discussing Russia, China, COVID, anything, you can watch us on Rumble or on Mug Club.

00:05:00.000 Of course, there's a full extra hour of show on Mug Club.

00:05:03.000 It's Monday through Thursday, 10 a.m.

00:05:06.000 Eastern.

00:05:06.000 10 a.m.

00:05:07.000 And this Thursday, we have a super video on Wikipedia.

00:05:07.000 Eastern.

00:05:10.000 We've run some tests.

00:05:11.000 We feel confident now in letting you know that It's far worse than you imagined.

00:05:16.000 So that's going to be fun on Thursday.

00:05:18.000 I love it.

00:05:19.000 I can't wait.

00:05:20.000 Big, big video that took a lot of work from a lot of people here.

00:05:21.000 First question though, before we move on and talk about Russia and Ukraine, and we actually

00:05:24.000 will have some people in here to argue about it.

00:05:26.000 Yeah.

00:05:27.000 A lot of different opinions in the office, just to be clear.

00:05:29.000 So this episode, this show is going to be a little bit different.

00:05:32.000 We're going to have differing points of view, you know, the patent point of view of we defeated

00:05:37.000 the wrong enemy, should have defeated the Nazis, but also the Russians.

00:05:40.000 And then we'll have differing points of view or we shouldn't do anything and we should

00:05:43.000 let Ukraine fend for themselves. 0.88

00:05:45.000 So you know what?

00:05:46.000 It's a hodgepodge.

00:05:47.000 I like it.

00:05:48.000 It's a potluck of geopolitical mystery.

00:05:51.000 Bye.

00:05:52.000 But my question to you is, I think last week we asked, do you think, so now it's the updated version, when do you think Russia is going to be invading Ukraine?

00:06:02.000 Can we get an over-under on Tuesday?

00:06:04.000 After Biden's speech.

00:06:06.000 Send some people over to DraftKings.

00:06:09.000 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 To ForeignPolicyWarHawkKings.com.

00:06:12.000 What's the line?

00:06:14.000 Gosh, this is going to be a weird, weird... You thought 2020... Remember when everyone thought, thank God 2020's over?

00:06:20.000 Remember the 2021 New Year's?

00:06:22.000 Like, thank God 2020's over.

00:06:23.000 Oh, because you think the date changes?

00:06:26.000 Your right's coming back, and now we're in 2022, and now, oh my gosh, outside of, you know, the pandemic COVID, there's an actual conflict that could be significant that you may have to worry about now.

00:06:35.000 Just add that to your plate.

00:06:37.000 This is going to be a nutty week.

00:06:39.000 Here to talk about it with me, of course, he knows his foreign policy, is Gerald A. How are you?

00:06:43.000 I am well, sir.

00:06:44.000 How are you?

00:06:44.000 I'm okay.

00:06:45.000 Yeah?

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:45.000 Had a busy weekend.

00:06:46.000 Yeah, I imagine.

00:06:48.000 Lots of stuff going on.

00:06:49.000 Lots of stuff going on.

00:06:50.000 You got little rugrats. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Rugrats. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:06:53.000 One of them tested positive for the COVID.

00:06:54.000 What?

00:06:55.000 One of them tested negative, so it's like, you gotta keep them apart.

00:06:57.000 Well, I don't think you say the COVID.

00:06:59.000 That's like saying the Facebook.

00:07:01.000 Ah, I put my spin on it!

00:07:02.000 And, uh, we don't have Dave here, but we actually do have, he works here as a researcher, as a producer, uh, his name is, well, you know what, he's Ginger Snap to us, because his hair is fiery red.

00:07:12.000 Ginger Snap, how are you, sir?

00:07:13.000 I'm fantastic, and appreciate the, uh, love with the nickname.

00:07:15.000 Yes, let me see, let everyone see your hair.

00:07:17.000 Let everyone see your hair.

00:07:18.000 He has to wear, he has to wear his Burger King Kids Club bat, bat, look at this.

00:07:22.000 Aww.

00:07:22.000 For crying out loud.

00:07:23.000 There are a few perverts who are gonna love that. 0.98

00:07:25.000 You can put your hat back. 0.89

00:07:26.000 I guess it's off, it's, it's off.

00:07:29.000 The thing is with redheads, at least with guys, brunettes, blondes, you know, bigger girls, smaller girls, it's a preference. 1.00

00:07:36.000 Redheads, it's a fetish. 1.00

00:07:38.000 It is, right? 0.96

00:07:38.000 It's a fetish. 0.96

00:07:39.000 Steven, can you guess where we imported him from?

00:07:42.000 Well, I know, you know what?

00:07:43.000 People won't be able to guess properly.

00:07:44.000 Strangely.

00:07:45.000 Strangely enough, tell them where you came from, Gingersnip. 0.98

00:07:48.000 I came fresh off the boat from South Korea.

00:07:51.000 Oh my gosh!

00:07:51.000 He was living in South Korea!

00:07:52.000 They must have not welcomed him there at all.

00:07:54.000 I stood out a little bit.

00:07:55.000 Did you eat canine?

00:07:58.000 Oh my word!

00:07:59.000 Did he say yes?

00:08:00.000 He didn't say no.

00:08:02.000 That's a horrible start.

00:08:03.000 Oh my gosh! 1.00

00:08:04.000 We have two canine-eating fools in this place. 1.00

00:08:07.000 Yes. 0.99

00:08:07.000 And Dave, let us know when Dave comes in so we can admonish Dave. 0.99

00:08:10.000 We will, yeah.

00:08:11.000 They're going to let us know when he's ready to rock and roll.

00:08:13.000 So before we move on to Russia and the updates here, and former Vice President Joe Biden and his ineptitude, gosh, I just see Lizzo in the show map and I was told not to watch this.

00:08:24.000 Have you seen this ginger snap?

00:08:25.000 I have.

00:08:26.000 It's not amazing.

00:08:27.000 He keeps looking down at his notes.

00:08:29.000 He's nervous.

00:08:29.000 He's like a bird dog right now.

00:08:32.000 It's okay.

00:08:33.000 Just relax.

00:08:33.000 Just be yourself, Ginger Snap.

00:08:35.000 Just be yourself.

00:08:36.000 People will like you.

00:08:37.000 They won't like himself.

00:08:39.000 He needs to fake it.

00:08:42.000 Lizzo apparently overcooked her pizza.

00:08:44.000 Let's watch. 0.99

00:08:46.000 So I'm sitting here stre- What the f***? 0.97

00:08:50.000 So I'm sitting here stressed out. 0.95

00:08:53.000 No, that's your actual size.

00:08:54.000 And I can't even eat my fillings right.

00:08:57.000 I overcooked my pizza.

00:08:58.000 Look at this.

00:08:59.000 Oh. 1.00

00:09:00.000 Bitch. 1.00

00:09:02.000 Bitch, what else does it do with- Bitch, you still don't eat it though. 1.00

00:09:12.000 Yes. 1.00

00:09:14.000 Well, I was hoping for a zag, but... Yeah, well, you know what? 1.00

00:09:18.000 She has to dip her pizza in ranch because pizza needs ranch. 1.00

00:09:22.000 It does, actually.

00:09:23.000 Pizza gets so dry!

00:09:24.000 There's just not enough already on pizza.

00:09:27.000 Pizza's just a layering mechanism.

00:09:29.000 It is.

00:09:29.000 She's going to... Did she just say she's eating her feelings?

00:09:32.000 She is.

00:09:32.000 If you're going to eat your feelings, she needs her pizza oven stapled.

00:09:37.000 She had a Diet Coke right next to her though, so she's totally fine.

00:09:39.000 Is there a kitchen band procedure?

00:09:42.000 It's called a lock.

00:09:43.000 Yeah, it's called a lock.

00:09:44.000 It's called a padlock.

00:09:45.000 Just lock the doors to anything that contains food.

00:09:48.000 Throw away your phone because you can order Uber Eats.

00:09:51.000 Crying out loud.

00:09:52.000 I just, you know, here's the thing.

00:09:53.000 Yeah, we get it.

00:09:54.000 Okay.

00:09:56.000 But have the self-awareness to not upload you discussing eating your feelings and dipping pizza in ranch.

00:10:02.000 And at the very least, every single video like that should end with, by the way, this is really unhealthy and I'm gonna die soon.

00:10:09.000 There should be a Surgeon General's warning on every video that she produces. 0.91

00:10:13.000 Exactly.

00:10:13.000 It's like on a pack of cigarettes, you have like a lung.

00:10:15.000 It should just be like the dinner plate nipples. 0.97

00:10:19.000 Of what happens when you gain that much weight on every single Lizzo CD. 0.65

00:10:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:10:25.000 Be careful, you could end up like this.

00:10:27.000 As opposed to explicit content, Tipper Gore get dinner plate nipples and rags on sticks and put it on every single Lizzo CD. 0.77

00:10:36.000 Oh my gosh. 0.92

00:10:37.000 Did we lose power?

00:10:39.000 Are we gone?

00:10:40.000 Are we gone off the stream or is the stream still going on?

00:10:42.000 Well, I don't know.

00:10:43.000 I have no idea.

00:10:44.000 It feels like we lost power power.

00:10:46.000 We did lose power.

00:10:47.000 To the entire building.

00:10:51.000 I think our backup generator may still be going.

00:10:53.000 You may not be able to see us, but you might be able to hear us.

00:10:55.000 So the Blaze can hear us?

00:10:57.000 It seems... Can YouTube hear us?

00:10:59.000 I don't know.

00:10:59.000 We're finding out right now.

00:11:01.000 Let's have someone come in as soon as you... YouTube's still up.

00:11:07.000 Oh! 0.60

00:11:20.000 Okay, it looks like we're back up on Rumble and we're still up on YouTube.

00:11:25.000 We are still on YouTube.

00:11:26.000 So that whole thing was on YouTube?

00:11:28.000 Yeah.

00:11:28.000 Did they hear my racial tirade?

00:11:32.000 They didn't hear me call and leave those racist voicemails, did they?

00:11:37.000 I mean, I did it.

00:11:37.000 It was a very short amount of time.

00:11:39.000 What are you, Mel Gibson?

00:11:40.000 I have short windows of free time, so I make best use of it.

00:11:43.000 You multitask.

00:11:44.000 You have to multitask.

00:11:45.000 I think they were coming in to say that we're back up.

00:11:48.000 Okay, did it cancel the stream on YouTube?

00:11:50.000 Hey guys, everyone comment below.

00:11:52.000 This is a good chance.

00:11:53.000 Comment below.

00:11:54.000 Did you guys just see that, Dark?

00:11:56.000 And did you see... Yeah, it actually happened.

00:11:58.000 You didn't see Ginger Snap servicing himself furiously, did you?

00:12:01.000 It was quick.

00:12:02.000 It was quick.

00:12:02.000 No, no, no.

00:12:03.000 He's trying to get in his steps.

00:12:04.000 If you move your watch... Yes.

00:12:07.000 I've got to get a thousand steps in today.

00:12:08.000 Yeah.

00:12:09.000 In addition to what I had yesterday.

00:12:10.000 It doesn't know what to do with the heart rate variability.

00:12:13.000 So, uh, hold on.

00:12:14.000 I want to make sure, uh, okay.

00:12:15.000 All is well still.

00:12:16.000 Good.

00:12:16.000 Okay.

00:12:17.000 So, um, we can move on there from Lizzo.

00:12:19.000 YouTube just struck our studio with a missile and they didn't know.

00:12:22.000 I have no idea what even just happened.

00:12:24.000 That was the weirdest thing.

00:12:24.000 There may have been construction or something that hit power.

00:12:27.000 So we do have a backup generator that keeps the stream going.

00:12:30.000 Yeah, it keeps all the essentials going other than lights.

00:12:33.000 Other than lights.

00:12:35.000 Other than people being able to see us on a video program.

00:12:40.000 You know, there's a fair point there.

00:12:42.000 We'll have to look at that list again. 1.00

00:12:44.000 Just have at least one light so I can do the earnest, scared, stupid bit. 0.99

00:12:47.000 We'll just give you a flashlight for the desk. 0.99

00:12:49.000 There you go.

00:12:50.000 What's going on there, Tim the Toolman?

00:12:51.000 What do you need to fix?

00:12:52.000 He's just getting everything reset for us.

00:12:55.000 Look, this is what happens when we're live.

00:12:56.000 Do you realize how few people do live programs like this for this reason?

00:13:01.000 Right.

00:13:01.000 Do you have any idea how often this happens?

00:13:03.000 Are they smarter than us, or are we better than them?

00:13:05.000 No, Stephen Colbert doesn't trust himself.

00:13:08.000 Cut! 1.00

00:13:10.000 The needles need to look more flamboyant.

00:13:15.000 We need better needles.

00:13:16.000 Pfizer is paying for top needle placement.

00:13:20.000 And I'll be damned if we don't give it to them.

00:13:22.000 We have to have good needle representation, okay? 1.00

00:13:24.000 Yes.

00:13:24.000 We need equal needle representation and needle exchanges.

00:13:28.000 All right, this is as good a time as anything to just let you know, but before we move on while we get our clips back and the TriCaster and everything, follow me on Instagram here, Louder With Crowder, because someone's sitting on Steven Crowder, I believe, and we'll be taking your Mug Club chat here later on.

00:13:41.000 We'll have like another full hour show.

00:13:42.000 This is a wonderful start to the show.

00:13:45.000 Our first clip is Lizzo eating pizza.

00:13:47.000 Fantastic work, guys!

00:13:51.000 And then everything goes dark.

00:13:55.000 People thought they were tuning into DeRay's podcast.

00:13:58.000 Are you able to pull up CNN?

00:14:00.000 Did we lose it completely?

00:14:01.000 That TV just isn't going on.

00:14:03.000 The TV's not coming back on, but I have it on my monitor.

00:14:04.000 Can you pull it up?

00:14:06.000 Florida House Committee passes Don't Say Gay Bill.

00:14:09.000 What?

00:14:11.000 Just so you guys know, I'm flying in the dark here.

00:14:14.000 I promise I'm not lying to you.

00:14:15.000 I don't even know if we can bring it up.

00:14:17.000 It's Darkwing Ho! 0.76

00:14:18.000 That's okay, it's okay.

00:14:19.000 It's not a big deal.

00:14:20.000 I was just saying that that's kind of... So we can't bring up CNN for the show?

00:14:24.000 Something's got to be reset.

00:14:26.000 We can't do it at this moment.

00:14:28.000 I mean, we can't make fun of CNN for like a whole hour and a half?

00:14:31.000 I don't know what that means.

00:14:33.000 Second half.

00:14:34.000 Second half of the show?

00:14:36.000 Go.

00:14:37.000 Go.

00:14:37.000 Do it live!

00:14:38.000 We have a clip of CNN.

00:14:39.000 We'll do it live!

00:14:42.000 Hammering!

00:14:43.000 All right, so we do have a clip here from CNN from before.

00:14:46.000 This is great, by the way, for Gingersnap.

00:14:48.000 His first time in here.

00:14:49.000 He's just sitting over there going, oh god.

00:14:51.000 The odor is emanating from that end of the studio right now.

00:14:55.000 It would have lines.

00:14:57.000 Did you have a Biden?

00:14:58.000 You all right there?

00:14:59.000 I'm doing good.

00:15:00.000 I'm just trying not to, you know, just overstep my bounds.

00:15:03.000 Don't worry.

00:15:03.000 You won't overstep your bounds.

00:15:05.000 You're a friendly South Korean white guy.

00:15:07.000 Okay, this was on this morning on CNN.

00:15:09.000 So, you know, Barry Weiss was on Bill Maher.

00:15:11.000 Yeah.

00:15:12.000 And Barry Weiss used to work with, I believe, the New York Times and has had sort of an awakening, not really conservative, but I guess you would call her classical liberal.

00:15:20.000 And she made some totally reasonable points on Bill Maher, which, of course, was trending all over this weekend because people were furious where she was implying that, of course, with COVID, they don't really have the science at this point.

00:15:31.000 They're a negative remnant.

00:15:32.000 Like I've always said, look, here's the thing with COVID.

00:15:34.000 No one is saying that COVID isn't real.

00:15:36.000 No one is saying that COVID doesn't suck for some people who get it.

00:15:39.000 With everything in life, you have to weigh the risks and rewards, the pros and cons.

00:15:44.000 In this case, your basic civil liberties and freedoms versus Omicron, which at this point, you know, for most people is a cough.

00:15:55.000 It's actually not even a cough, it's nasal stuff.

00:15:58.000 Right, it's like a 1-2 day cold, basically.

00:16:01.000 Symptom-wise, I'm not saying you should downplay it.

00:16:04.000 I had it and I felt like Tom Hanks at the end of Philadelphia.

00:16:07.000 So, you know, but I got it worse.

00:16:09.000 Ready to run a marathon?

00:16:10.000 It was also the AIDS.

00:16:11.000 The AIDS was really, it was more of a comorbidity.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:14.000 I think that is the morbidity.

00:16:15.000 So this morning, though, on CNN, they brought on a doctor to issue counterpoints to Barry Weiss's points, Dr. Reiner from George Washington University.

00:16:25.000 And this is the beauty of, you know, when these people, first off, we talked about these comedy shows, they don't do it live.

00:16:30.000 Okay, well that's wonderful because they can edit anything to look favorable.

00:16:34.000 But then also on places like, that's redundant, but then also, I apologize, it's the darkness that's gotten to my brain.

00:16:41.000 Also on CNN, or these programs, there's a beauty in never being accountable, where you can bring on people simply to strawman your opponents.

00:16:50.000 Because they don't bring Barry Weiss on.

00:16:52.000 In my opinion, if you are commenting on what Barry Weiss said on Bill Maher, specifically, right, and you are CNN, to do your job and be a journalist, you should have Barry Weiss on.

00:17:01.000 Instead, they show a brief clip, and then they bring a doctor on to address the points that she never made.

00:17:07.000 Here's the most trusted name in news.

00:17:09.000 I'm done with COVID.

00:17:11.000 I'm done.

00:17:11.000 It's like, I went so hard on COVID.

00:17:14.000 I sprayed the Pringles cans that I bought at the grocery store, stripped my clothes off because I thought COVID would be on my clothes.

00:17:22.000 Like, I did it all.

00:17:23.000 And then we were told, you get the vaccine.

00:17:26.000 You get the vaccine and you get back to normal.

00:17:31.000 We haven't gotten back to normal. 0.53

00:17:33.000 And it's ridiculous at this point.

00:17:35.000 This is going to be remembered by the younger generation as a catastrophic moral crime.

00:17:41.000 The city of Flint, Michigan, which is 80%, I think, minority students, has just announced indefinite virtual schooling.

00:17:48.000 Also known as a majority.

00:17:49.000 In the past two years, we've seen, among young girls, a 51% increase in self-harm.

00:17:54.000 People are killing themselves.

00:17:56.000 They are anxious.

00:17:56.000 They are depressed.

00:17:57.000 They are lonely.

00:17:59.000 That is why we need to end it.

00:18:01.000 She ranted about how inconvenienced she's been by this pandemic and how it's not real anymore.

00:18:10.000 Well, I'll tell you that for the 10,000 Americans who died last week and for their families, yeah, it was damn real.

00:18:18.000 And for the people who struggle to keep them alive and for the thousands and thousands of health care workers who have been doing this nonstop for two years, her behavior was childish and selfish.

00:18:31.000 Ah, okay.

00:18:31.000 So, you notice what she said?

00:18:33.000 She said, look, we do have a record number of teenage, specifically teenage girls, that are self-harm.

00:18:39.000 And, of course, if you look into those statistics, all references available at LotOfCredit.com.

00:18:42.000 We have them below as well.

00:18:43.000 We've done several episodes on this.

00:18:44.000 There's been an increase in substance abuse.

00:18:47.000 There's been an increase in hospitalization for alcoholism.

00:18:49.000 Suicides.

00:18:50.000 Way up.

00:18:50.000 Suicides.

00:18:51.000 Way up.

00:18:51.000 And he says, I think she's being childish because she's just talking about how she's been inconvenienced.

00:18:56.000 She didn't discuss herself being inconvenienced at all!

00:18:59.000 No.

00:19:00.000 It was all about how other people are being destroyed by this.

00:19:02.000 Specifically, the people that we say we sacrifice everything for are children.

00:19:06.000 Right now, we're sacrificing them to make ourselves feel better.

00:19:12.000 That's it, right?

00:19:12.000 Why can schools be closed in one place and open in another place?

00:19:16.000 We all deal with the same issues.

00:19:17.000 We all have COVID spikes.

00:19:18.000 We all have Omicron that's kind of running around the country.

00:19:21.000 It's fear.

00:19:22.000 That's the only... No, but in Flint, they should stay home from school and drink the tap water.

00:19:27.000 Yes, get as much of that tap water as possible.

00:19:30.000 Also, this is how silly political correctness is when we're talking about language. 0.66

00:19:35.000 In Flint, where it's 80% because you can't just say black, you can't say brown, 80% minority... Imagine if you read a poll. 0.96

00:19:44.000 Well?

00:19:45.000 A minority of Americans believe, disapprove of Joe Biden's job on the economy.

00:19:50.000 What's that minority?

00:19:51.000 80%.

00:19:51.000 I should note that the 80% is black.

00:19:56.000 80% is not a minority!

00:19:57.000 Why do we still say this?

00:19:58.000 Minorities.

00:19:59.000 They're minorities. 0.82

00:20:00.000 It's 80% minority.

00:20:01.000 Not in Flint!

00:20:03.000 That would be called a majority, sir.

00:20:05.000 In Flint, you know who's a minority?

00:20:07.000 Gingersnap! 1.00

00:20:09.000 Gingersnap gets caught on the wrong block.

00:20:11.000 No, nay, on the right block!

00:20:13.000 And he's not living through the day!

00:20:15.000 I heard there's a big Swiss population there I might fit in.

00:20:18.000 Yes, yes, there's a big Swiss population.

00:20:20.000 Knives and stuff.

00:20:21.000 They can just remain neutral, of course.

00:20:23.000 Alright, moving on here to...

00:20:26.000 Former Vice President Joe Biden, before we go into this situation with Russia, we're going to have a roundtable discussion because there are differing points of view.

00:20:32.000 And it's a boring topic.

00:20:34.000 And the truth is, I'll get to it.

00:20:36.000 It's boring until it's not.

00:20:37.000 It's boring until it's not.

00:20:38.000 You know, I was very passionate about the Taiwan situation in China because I understand exactly how it affects the United States.

00:20:43.000 I understand exactly how it affects all of us on a global scale.

00:20:46.000 I understand that China is on the move and what they want to accomplish.

00:20:49.000 With Russia, it's a little bit harder to be concerned because we see a sort of disenchanted, a sort of disenfranchised, you know, former USSR, and people think, well, they're not really a threat. 0.58

00:20:58.000 Well, the whole point is they're trying to build to being a threat, and Ukraine is one of those first steps. 0.94

00:21:03.000 So a lot of people find it uninteresting.

00:21:06.000 What are you guys doing over there?

00:21:07.000 What are you guys gossiping about over there?

00:21:09.000 Is there something wrong with the power?

00:21:10.000 Share with the class.

00:21:10.000 If something is going on, you guys have to let me know.

00:21:13.000 We apparently spelled Russia wrong in the title, so we're thrilled.

00:21:17.000 Ah, wow.

00:21:18.000 Russia spelled wrong. 1.00

00:21:20.000 I have to sit in close proximity to a ginger, and I don't know if that shit rubs off, and then we lose power. 1.00

00:21:26.000 And he crapped himself. 1.00

00:21:27.000 Yes.

00:21:28.000 So when Dave does come in, he's got a surprise in the chair. 0.98

00:21:31.000 I hope you had one hell of a piss, David! 0.96

00:21:36.000 So before we get to Russia, though, Joe Biden, of course, you know he's always shown a bulldog-like toughness toward Putin. 0.96

00:21:42.000 Like when he said this last year.

00:21:44.000 So you know Vladimir Putin, you think he's a killer? 0.91

00:21:47.000 Mm-hmm. 0.67

00:21:48.000 So what price must he pay?

00:21:50.000 The price he's gonna pay, well, you'll see shortly.

00:21:52.000 He mean what he say!

00:21:56.000 Oh, if you sit on my lap today, this hot toy is the price you'll pay! 0.99

00:22:02.000 Name that reference.

00:22:03.000 If Putin sits on my left knee, don't be stingy.

00:22:07.000 Be prepared to pay.

00:22:08.000 Mickey Rooney.

00:22:10.000 You can't give it away!

00:22:11.000 That's not the name of the movie!

00:22:12.000 That's an actor!

00:22:13.000 I know, but that's like a hint.

00:22:14.000 Okay.

00:22:15.000 All right.

00:22:16.000 I shouldn't have given you guys a hint.

00:22:17.000 Just ignore Mickey Rooney.

00:22:18.000 Strike it from the record.

00:22:19.000 Can we do that?

00:22:20.000 Oh, no, wait.

00:22:20.000 We're live, as you well know today.

00:22:22.000 So what about when he tweeted this in February 2020?

00:22:26.000 A good year, as we call it.

00:22:28.000 Vladimir Putin doesn't want me to be president.

00:22:32.000 He doesn't want me to be our nominee.

00:22:34.000 If you're wondering why, it's because I'm the only person in this field who's ever gone toe-to-toe with him.

00:22:39.000 First off, did you ballroom dance with him?

00:22:43.000 I don't understand.

00:22:46.000 You've never gone toe-to-toe with anybody. 0.99

00:22:48.000 You're a skinny, fat, butter-soft biatch who has pushed pencils for your entire life and tries to act like you're the tough guy who's going to fight someone behind the bike racks. 0.97

00:22:58.000 This is the stuff that he always says. 0.99

00:22:59.000 He talks tough.

00:23:00.000 Barack Obama said, everybody knows you don't mess with Joe.

00:23:04.000 No, it's very clear you're saying that because that's precisely what you do with Joe.

00:23:07.000 You're trying to build him up.

00:23:09.000 I'll tell him.

00:23:09.000 There's nothing to do with Joe Biden if not mess with him.

00:23:13.000 Well, by the way, I do have a follow-up question to that.

00:23:15.000 He said he went toe-to-toe with Putin.

00:23:17.000 Yes.

00:23:17.000 How did that go for him in the Obama administration?

00:23:21.000 Yeah, well if he means that, if we're talking about what happened with Ukraine back then, he was bent over.

00:23:26.000 I think Ukraine would rather he had not.

00:23:29.000 They probably would have called for somebody else to be their champion.

00:23:33.000 Joe Biden walks out and they lose part of their country and it's like, wait, what just happened?

00:23:38.000 Who did this to us?

00:23:40.000 Hey, it's me!

00:23:42.000 What?

00:23:42.000 Joe!

00:23:44.000 I never come back here again.

00:23:45.000 We do have fantastic news.

00:23:47.000 Dave has been found.

00:23:49.000 Okay.

00:23:49.000 And we, so Dave, we, we are ready for you to, to enter the studio, sir.

00:23:54.000 Come on in.

00:23:55.000 Come on in.

00:23:55.000 We helped him out for a few minutes for lashes and some other stuff.

00:23:58.000 So I see not actually coming in.

00:23:59.000 Well, he's supposed to be coming in.

00:24:02.000 Oh, well, good.

00:24:02.000 So at least he's on cue now.

00:24:04.000 I mean, I woke up in a puddle of his own filth.

00:24:07.000 He can come in whenever he's ready and we'll admonish the hell out of him.

00:24:10.000 So we are going to, before Dave comes in here, or whenever he comes in, we're going to get to the top four ways that the United States actually has sort of been the catalyst and created the Ukraine crisis.

00:24:23.000 So it's time, that's why Ginger Snap is here, who works usually in the back room, for an

00:24:26.000 underlaying argument.

00:24:27.000 Alright, well Dave's wearing his nicest outfit.

00:24:39.000 Underling, go over to the seat in the red chair.

00:24:41.000 Yeah, Underling, we're going to take you in the red chair here because Dave... Listen, I... Well, look who decided to show!

00:24:46.000 I was at a protest.

00:24:50.000 I apologize, I was a little late.

00:24:51.000 We were protesting and... What were you protesting, Dave?

00:24:56.000 Dicks.

00:24:58.000 Oh, yeah, the D word. 0.97

00:25:00.000 Yeah, we've all had enough of that.

00:25:02.000 Yeah, it was a me too thing.

00:25:03.000 And I'm like, nah, it's bad.

00:25:05.000 Right?

00:25:05.000 Yeah.

00:25:06.000 And yeah, this is what luckily these are my pajamas.

00:25:09.000 I wake up.

00:25:10.000 It helps the headrest.

00:25:11.000 You wear it on a plane too, so you can sleep.

00:25:13.000 It is.

00:25:14.000 Yes.

00:25:14.000 It's an entire bodysuit.

00:25:15.000 It's also to keep him from rolling over while he sleeps.

00:25:17.000 It is a danger.

00:25:19.000 It is Z-Pap.

00:25:20.000 Uh, so I apologize.

00:25:22.000 I got, uh, I slept in a bit.

00:25:24.000 Yeah.

00:25:24.000 Is that what happened?

00:25:25.000 Did you feel rested?

00:25:26.000 I went to a protest.

00:25:29.000 Everyone admonish him in the comments section.

00:25:31.000 Admonish him.

00:25:34.000 I'm gonna take off this pillow.

00:25:35.000 Alright, and you can put on your hat.

00:25:36.000 There you go.

00:25:37.000 We got Blaine.

00:25:37.000 Alright.

00:25:38.000 Oh, sorry guys.

00:25:40.000 So what happened?

00:25:40.000 Your flight was late?

00:25:42.000 Super late, yeah.

00:25:43.000 Meatloaf was my alarm and it didn't go off.

00:25:47.000 His name was Robert Paulson, Dave.

00:25:50.000 I'm sorry, Robert Paulson.

00:25:51.000 No, he actually wasn't. 0.92

00:25:52.000 That was the guy with the breasts. 0.99

00:25:54.000 Well, I guess. 0.96

00:25:56.000 Anyway.

00:25:57.000 No, I got a new iPhone.

00:25:59.000 Ah!

00:26:00.000 That I was requested to get for the show.

00:26:04.000 That's right!

00:26:05.000 And I set the alarm.

00:26:06.000 You just blamed three different things.

00:26:08.000 I know, yeah.

00:26:08.000 You blamed Meatloaf.

00:26:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:10.000 You blamed Tim Cook.

00:26:12.000 Yeah.

00:26:12.000 And then blamed me.

00:26:13.000 Because I'm the one who's paying for the iPhone!

00:26:16.000 Well, you know what's funny?

00:26:17.000 That's why this morning when I sent him a text and it said, Dave doesn't have notifications turned on, I was like, oh crap.

00:26:24.000 Oh no.

00:26:26.000 But I had the Do Not Disturb with the alarm and the alarm was turned on.

00:26:30.000 It just didn't go off.

00:26:32.000 Can I tell you one thing?

00:26:33.000 Yeah.

00:26:33.000 I don't buy it.

00:26:36.000 That's like the only thing that always works.

00:26:38.000 Okay, look, guys, I took 17 Ambien for the first time.

00:26:42.000 I've never taken it. 0.91

00:26:43.000 And I woke up on somebody's lawn in a vagina suit, and there was a homeless man on it. 0.96

00:26:47.000 That makes sense. 0.94

00:26:48.000 So, by the way, if you guys out there see GoPro footage of a Martin Lawrence-like bender with Dave, it's true. 1.00

00:26:54.000 I was waving a gun in traffic, yelling, they're gonna get me.

00:26:58.000 Also, just for the record, even though he may say it in the video, he is not, in fact, Jesus Christ.

00:27:02.000 Dave, correct the record.

00:27:04.000 I am not Jesus Christ.

00:27:05.000 I'd like to be admonished twice.

00:27:07.000 Yes.

00:27:07.000 He is not Jesus Christ.

00:27:09.000 I did get three followers.

00:27:13.000 Three old followers.

00:27:16.000 I'm not good at technology.

00:27:18.000 No, that must be it.

00:27:20.000 All right, we're glad to have you with us, Dave.

00:27:21.000 Okay, we're talking about Russia, we're talking about the Ukraine, international politics, so it's right up your alley.

00:27:26.000 Cool, I wish I slept in more.

00:27:30.000 Well, you might get the chance here.

00:27:32.000 Easy.

00:27:33.000 Come on! 0.61

00:27:34.000 It was a total accident.

00:27:35.000 No, no.

00:27:35.000 And actually, Lane and Gerald got into a heated, Ginger Snap here got into a heated argument with Gerald in the back room.

00:27:41.000 Fisticuffs went flying.

00:27:42.000 And so he said, you know what, let's just bring this on air.

00:27:44.000 And he submitted.

00:27:45.000 Yeah, he did.

00:27:46.000 Well, he just started submitting, even though you didn't hit him.

00:27:48.000 Well, that's true.

00:27:48.000 He was pulling his best impression of a Frenchman in war.

00:27:52.000 Well, you look more French than South Korean. 0.98

00:27:53.000 You don't look South Korean at all. 1.00

00:27:55.000 He's got the cheekbones and everything else.

00:27:57.000 Are you part South Korean?

00:27:59.000 He was in South Korea.

00:28:00.000 That's where he came from.

00:28:01.000 Both my mom's mothers are South Korean.

00:28:03.000 Really?

00:28:04.000 Your mom has two moms? 1.00

00:28:05.000 No, it's not a joke.

00:28:07.000 I'm talking with Dave.

00:28:08.000 I thought it'd be funny.

00:28:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:28:11.000 I assumed.

00:28:12.000 Look, it's 2022.

00:28:13.000 I don't know who's got how many.

00:28:14.000 I know.

00:28:16.000 It's very difficult to track.

00:28:18.000 Here's the worst part.

00:28:19.000 If I was in university right now, and you answered that way, we would all have to go.

00:28:23.000 Well, that's what we all did.

00:28:24.000 We kind of paused for a second.

00:28:25.000 Like, you have two.

00:28:27.000 Okay, what?

00:28:28.000 I forgot to check my time, my privilege, check a lot of things.

00:28:32.000 Yeah, it's a lot of those privileges.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, I was visiting my two dad's grave, and that's why I was late.

00:28:36.000 Yeah, well that makes sense.

00:28:39.000 In your case, you forgot to check your pigment.

00:28:41.000 You are positively translucent.

00:28:43.000 You're like one of those fish that lives at the bottom of the ocean that never sees sunlight.

00:28:46.000 I tried to hit the tanning bed before I came in, but they said I couldn't go in.

00:28:49.000 It was too much of a health risk.

00:28:51.000 I get that, yeah.

00:28:52.000 That'll just shine straight through you.

00:28:53.000 Sun and tan down the road.

00:28:55.000 He'll come out looking like Mr. Burns in the field.

00:28:57.000 It's true.

00:28:59.000 I bring you love!

00:29:00.000 Alright, so last week, former Vice President Joe Biden accidentally, which always instills confidence in the commander of the free world, former, half-ish Kamala Harris.

00:29:16.000 I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades, and it depends on what it does. 0.91

00:29:26.000 It's one thing if it's a minor incursion and then we end up having to fight about what to do and not do, etc.

00:29:33.000 Did he say minor accursion?

00:29:35.000 I mean, incursion?

00:29:37.000 Incursion.

00:29:38.000 But it didn't sound like you said incursion.

00:29:39.000 No, no, no.

00:29:40.000 I give him a pass.

00:29:40.000 I just try to assume what he's saying based on what I hear.

00:29:43.000 Yeah.

00:29:43.000 Brain kind of fills it in sometimes.

00:29:45.000 You have to have your little orphan Biden decoder pen.

00:29:47.000 Well, pretty much.

00:29:48.000 I think he meant to say insurrection.

00:29:50.000 Yeah.

00:29:50.000 I think he meant to say insertion.

00:29:51.000 Erection.

00:29:52.000 Yes. 0.99

00:29:53.000 Well, erection. 0.99

00:29:54.000 He was just asking for one. 0.99

00:29:55.000 Huh?

00:29:56.000 Huh?

00:29:56.000 Can I get one?

00:29:57.000 Guys, I haven't had one in a long time.

00:29:58.000 Stat.

00:29:58.000 Huh?

00:30:00.000 See, Alice?

00:30:01.000 Do you see, Alice?

00:30:02.000 Oh, that's code.

00:30:04.000 That took so much of a...

00:30:06.000 I slept late.

00:30:08.000 I had a heart attack.

00:30:11.000 Look, let me be really clear here because there's going to be a back and forth on this discussion.

00:30:15.000 We're not holding water for Putin. 0.99

00:30:17.000 I think Putin's a dick, which is what Dave was out protesting apparently at 4 in the morning. 0.99

00:30:22.000 Um, and, uh, this is my view on Russia. 0.99

00:30:26.000 I tend to line up with, uh, with Patton.

00:30:28.000 Certainly as it related to World War II and after World War II, pre, uh, yeah, a little bit different.

00:30:33.000 Boy, sharing the same name.

00:30:34.000 That is a, that is a problem.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 I hope when you Google it, it certainly shows up General Patton before Patton.

00:30:39.000 We should check that.

00:30:40.000 I certainly should hope that if I search Patton, it doesn't show me Oswald's King of, King of Queen credits.

00:30:47.000 I betcha it does.

00:30:48.000 So Patton said near the end of World War II, he said, the difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European but an Asiatic and therefore thinks deviously.

00:31:00.000 That sounds bad.

00:31:01.000 It does sound bad. 0.99

00:31:02.000 We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman, which is what he said back then, or a Japanese and from what I have seen of them I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. 0.98

00:31:15.000 Wow. 0.99

00:31:15.000 In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all-out son-of-a-bitch barbarian and chronic drunk. 0.99

00:31:25.000 We fought the wrong enemy, though that may not be necessarily confirmed, but it's fun to include. 0.98

00:31:29.000 Berlin gave me the blues.

00:31:30.000 We have destroyed what could have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian savages, and all of Europe will be communist. 1.00

00:31:37.000 Now, to be clear, people tried to say that he was a Nazi sympathizer.

00:31:40.000 That's not what Patton was.

00:31:41.000 What Patton was saying is that there was a threat from Russia and that these were not people who basically wanted to assimilate into Western civilization whatsoever.

00:31:48.000 And, of course, there are alliances that you have at certain points in time.

00:31:52.000 A lot of the time, people go, why did we side with the Russians?

00:31:53.000 Well, keep in mind, with the Russians, they initially sided with the Germans in World War II.

00:31:57.000 Until the Germans attacked them, and then the Germans killed, well, I don't know if you take the total number of killed, but Holocaust was about 6 million, and of course you have millions other who were killed in the battles.

00:32:08.000 With Russia, you're talking about anywhere from 50 to 100 million people who were killed, mostly their own.

00:32:13.000 Yeah, just in World War II.

00:32:15.000 If we loop in World War I to this and the Revolution, it gets really high.

00:32:19.000 Now, that being said, there are a few- and Ginger Snap, you were writing this out, so you were also making this argument that the United States sort of created the Russia-Ukraine scandal.

00:32:29.000 Right, and this isn't to say that we could guarantee without the United States- You gotta talk into this, you know it's difficult.

00:32:34.000 Yeah, the microphone doesn't even have to talk straight into the front of it, right there.

00:32:38.000 Alright, I'll try my best.

00:32:39.000 It's not to say that- He's South Korean, he's directionally challenged. 1.00

00:32:44.000 It's not to say that- He's trying to get him to use his blinkers.

00:32:45.000 Can I be over here and the mic pick me up?

00:32:48.000 Okay, now.

00:32:49.000 Go.

00:32:49.000 Okay.

00:32:51.000 I wish I would have missed that joke.

00:32:53.000 I did.

00:32:54.000 I don't think I have any Ambien, but I think I might have some Lunesta in the back, as long as you don't mind the LCD, L-L-S-D butterfly.

00:33:05.000 By Ambien, I meant Gerald sang me to sleep.

00:33:09.000 The argument that myself and the other writers are trying to make is not that Russia is this great country that should be revered and Putin is this bastion of conservatism.

00:33:16.000 It is that the steps that the United States have made since the end of the Cold War have led us to what would always be this outcome.

00:33:24.000 Right.

00:33:24.000 And that is where we lined up with kind of the map we put together and the facts that we want to discuss today.

00:33:29.000 And I know there's some disagreements with the particulars of those, but I think we'll... Don't be diplomatic. 0.98

00:33:34.000 You guys were being dicks to each other. 0.98

00:33:35.000 That's okay. 1.00

00:33:35.000 Well, no, I was winning the argument. 1.00

00:33:37.000 Hey, don't... Don't taint the jury pool.

00:33:37.000 That's all there was.

00:33:41.000 And by the way, you guys comment below, people who are watching on YouTube, comment where you line up right now.

00:33:46.000 Should the United States get involved and protect the Ukraine at all?

00:33:48.000 Should they be sending them aid or should we be completely removing ourselves?

00:33:51.000 Do you think this is a case where non-interventionism makes more sense?

00:33:55.000 Many people watching may not have actually known anything about the Ukraine until, of course, Vladimir Putin invaded Crimea.

00:34:03.000 And I say, how does that work?

00:34:04.000 Well, he did.

00:34:05.000 Well, it was annexed during President... I know you like President Obama, but it was annexed during President Obama's term.

00:34:09.000 If it was annexed during my term, I'd say, sorry, folks.

00:34:12.000 I made a mistake.

00:34:13.000 Sorry, folks.

00:34:13.000 Why keep repeating what some people would see as a clear lie?

00:34:16.000 Well, it was annexed during President...

00:34:18.000 I know you like President Obama, but it was annexed during President Obama's term.

00:34:22.000 If it was annexed during my term, I'd say, sorry folks.

00:34:25.000 I made a mistake.

00:34:27.000 Sorry folks.

00:34:28.000 President Obama was helping Ukraine.

00:34:32.000 Crimea was annexed during his term.

00:34:36.000 President Obama was pure and simply outsmarted.

00:34:40.000 They took Crimea during his term.

00:34:43.000 That was not a good thing.

00:34:44.000 It could have been stopped.

00:34:45.000 Could have been stopped.

00:34:47.000 And by the way, a lot of you probably assumed that, and of course there have been doctored,

00:34:51.000 propaganda exists, a lot of you probably assumed that Putin fired the first shot.

00:34:55.000 For my dead body.

00:35:02.000 Oh, you know my chest pocket to that priest that I know that Oscar

00:35:08.000 That was for the nerds and I don't like it so but It made a point?

00:35:16.000 The Russia-Ukraine crisis started long before this, and Ginger Snap, you were explaining, and you and Gerald can kind of explain the history.

00:35:22.000 After the Cold War, right, the United States didn't really face any global opposition.

00:35:26.000 Right.

00:35:26.000 So that was a really good way, like, so we didn't face any opposition, but what we were trying to do, and I'll make my point and let him make his.

00:35:32.000 I'm not going to make his point for him just because he knows.

00:35:35.000 I'll just foreshadow.

00:35:37.000 It's liberal hegemony is the word that we'll use.

00:35:40.000 Hegemony.

00:35:41.000 I'm not really sure what it means.

00:35:43.000 Liberal hegemony ended up at liberal.

00:35:45.000 So my point is that after World War II, we had a very aggressive Russian state that was basically taking over part of Europe so that they could build kind of this buffer between Europe and themselves, right? 0.85

00:35:57.000 So I definitely understand that, but it was not just about Russia, it was about the spread of communism as well.

00:36:03.000 Russia has done nefarious things all throughout history, right? 0.84

00:36:07.000 So this has played out over and over again going back into the late 1800s.

00:36:11.000 Russia in World War I fought against Germany and lost.

00:36:14.000 They were trying to make sure that they could hold on to Ukraine.

00:36:16.000 They were trying to make sure Turkey didn't come in on the wrong side so that they could get their ships out into the Mediterranean.

00:36:20.000 This has been kind of the place that we've had to fight over for a long time.

00:36:24.000 And so when the League of Nations was formed, when we formed NATO, when we formed the United Nations, all of these steps were taken to make sure this kind of conflict Didn't happen again, or if it did, that Russia faced a foe that could defend itself.

00:36:37.000 Interesting they didn't want Turkey to be on the wrong side.

00:36:39.000 Hey, look to any side of you, that's the wrong side, that's where Turkey is. 1.00

00:36:43.000 You tend to pick the wrong always, right?

00:36:45.000 And I get that Russia gets pissed off about these things, but it's not like these things came out of nowhere, right?

00:36:51.000 We had to do something to deter this, and the spread of communism was a very, very real threat, especially when Spain and Franco's administration was communist. 1.00

00:37:00.000 And you think he's stupid. 0.99

00:37:02.000 Well, I don't disagree. 1.00

00:37:03.000 I don't disagree.

00:37:04.000 He's trying to pick a fight!

00:37:05.000 He's trying, look at him!

00:37:06.000 Yeah, what did you say about his mom?

00:37:07.000 Oh, jeez!

00:37:08.000 Lovely lady.

00:37:09.000 She's a nice lady. 1.00

00:37:09.000 Dorothy Mantooth is a lovely lady. 1.00

00:37:11.000 Yes, lovely woman. 0.66

00:37:13.000 I don't disagree with that statement, but that's like making the argument that, well, we shouldn't have allied with China then, and why are we allying against them now?

00:37:21.000 Well, they're two different countries.

00:37:23.000 Russia isn't the Soviet Union.

00:37:24.000 They're trying to be!

00:37:26.000 But communism is no longer really a factor that we need to consider.

00:37:30.000 Have you been to Stanford?

00:37:34.000 That's a great point.

00:37:35.000 The threat of communism is greater from our universities than it is from Moscow.

00:37:38.000 We should occupy them then, I think.

00:37:41.000 The argument that's made here is that we're looking at a different Russia after the end of the Cold War.

00:37:45.000 So what we decided to do after the Cold War, and we brought it up earlier, was called this thing called liberal hegemony, which is basically that the United States feels, since they're not challenged by another superpower, there is nobody to rival them, that they can spread democracy across the world.

00:37:59.000 And by doing this, it'll make Peaceful relations between everybody and no country has to worry about power relationships anymore.

00:38:06.000 And that is the mistake I think our foreign policy experts made that kind of led us to where we are now.

00:38:12.000 Okay, so I would agree with that in maybe the Middle East, right?

00:38:14.000 So with Iran propping up the Shah, we basically set the stage for the Ayatollah to come in. 0.94

00:38:19.000 There is no stabilizing the Middle East. 1.00

00:38:21.000 The Middle East is the world's BOSU ball. 1.00

00:38:23.000 There's no way you are ever going to guess.

00:38:26.000 It's a balance board and it's a rigged balance board.

00:38:29.000 Yeah, 130 there, God doesn't even want it there.

00:38:33.000 And I agree with that in Afghanistan, right?

00:38:35.000 Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires because every empire that has tried to come in and take over a people that should be takeover-able has failed, right? 0.60

00:38:43.000 The United States included, we weren't really trying to take over, we were just trying to eliminate a threat.

00:38:46.000 So I get that you can't just go and plant democracy in every place that you would like to.

00:38:51.000 And I also get But not every time that we've tried to plant democracy was it with altruistic intentions.

00:38:57.000 We had power intentions.

00:38:59.000 We had motivations that were maybe outside of that.

00:39:01.000 But at the same time, that again, to use your point, those countries and the problems we had there are not the same as making sure that Russia doesn't go on. 0.87

00:39:08.000 Well, and I think there's an important differentiation to make.

00:39:12.000 And this is what I would say is, I only have an interest in intervening if it directly relates to our national security interests.

00:39:18.000 Yeah.

00:39:19.000 I don't believe we should spread democracy, because a lot of nations simply don't want to share our values.

00:39:24.000 That does not work.

00:39:25.000 That is what ultimately creates destabilization.

00:39:29.000 However, when we're talking about China and Taiwan, we're talking about something that would actually be a security threat, not only to all of Asia, but the rest of the world.

00:39:36.000 Once Taiwan goes, you're talking about them getting really in close proximity to Japan.

00:39:39.000 You're talking about circuit boards.

00:39:40.000 You're talking about all kinds of hardware that is important to the rest of the world with Taiwan.

00:39:46.000 You're talking about a real problem with China and Taiwan.

00:39:48.000 Yeah.

00:39:48.000 I think with Russia, it's one of those issues where it's a little bit tough because, you know, you're still talking about people who are largely, like, they have a life expectancy of 54 because they all die of cirrhosis and they poop in the woods.

00:39:58.000 It's forced labor, too, that really cuts down on the longevity.

00:40:02.000 It does.

00:40:02.000 It makes them very strong, though, with their hands.

00:40:04.000 They can dig without shovels. 1.00

00:40:05.000 Yeah, they can kill pedophiles and get off scot-free.

00:40:07.000 Before we move on, I kind of want to stress the two points, the main points that we're trying to make here is first, yes, there is time for the United States to intervene. 0.93

00:40:12.000 You're not going anywhere.

00:40:13.000 I mean, before we move on, I kind of want to stress the two points, the main points

00:40:18.000 that we're trying to make here is first, yes, there is time for the United States to intervene.

00:40:23.000 When should that be is a discussion.

00:40:25.000 But right now, the world we live in, Russia is not the place to do so when we have a much

00:40:30.000 greater threat.

00:40:31.000 And to— Who's that greater threat?

00:40:33.000 China.

00:40:34.000 And to try to intervene substantially in Eastern Europe would also substantially decrease resources that should be available for East Asia.

00:40:43.000 Second off— You just said nuke China.

00:40:45.000 Wow.

00:40:46.000 It's not out of the question.

00:40:49.000 MacArthur wasn't loud.

00:40:50.000 Lest you think he was a non-interventionist.

00:40:52.000 He's like, I just don't think we should spread democracy.

00:40:53.000 I don't believe in liberal hegemony.

00:40:55.000 But yeah, let's drop the A-bomb.

00:40:57.000 Drop that effort twice.

00:40:58.000 Let's do it right in Shanghai.

00:41:01.000 At noon.

00:41:03.000 Shanghai is nice.

00:41:04.000 Beijing is where you'd want to go.

00:41:05.000 Just because of the movie.

00:41:06.000 I like what you did with referencing the film.

00:41:09.000 That was really cool.

00:41:09.000 Thank you, Owen.

00:41:11.000 I love Jackie Chan movies.

00:41:12.000 Who doesn't?

00:41:13.000 Fantastic.

00:41:14.000 I think we can all at least agree on that.

00:41:16.000 That's the first point.

00:41:17.000 And the second one is that Like Putin or hate him, he is acting completely irrationally, as any leader should, in his position. 0.99

00:41:24.000 As a crazy, power-hungry psychopath. 1.00

00:41:26.000 Yes, he is acting like a crazy, power-hungry psychopath. 1.00

00:41:29.000 As a realist. 1.00

00:41:30.000 Right.

00:41:31.000 I just want to make sure we say, he's operating in that world, and for somebody in that world, he's operating like he should.

00:41:37.000 Well, you know, listen, people have good sides and bad sides.

00:41:39.000 I mean, Gacy could paint.

00:41:42.000 Hitler could paint. 0.94

00:41:44.000 Yep.

00:41:45.000 I have a Gacy and a Hitler. 0.99

00:41:46.000 Do you?

00:41:47.000 Yeah, they're great.

00:41:48.000 You know what?

00:41:48.000 I just, I find Gacy's work is just far too interpretive.

00:41:51.000 It is, well, it's almost self-important.

00:41:54.000 Yeah, a lot of clowns and balloons and such, and I'm like, why isn't the clown murdering anybody?

00:41:59.000 When Lane was talking about Putin, I think what he's saying is just like in the university system, we don't want communism in our university system.

00:42:07.000 I think he's saying Putin didn't want that in Russia either.

00:42:09.000 Well, what Putin doesn't want is anything that disagrees with Putin.

00:42:11.000 So let's not muddy those waters.

00:42:13.000 There's a difference.

00:42:13.000 It's not like Putin wants freedom for his people and he wants a strong, willed people who understand what liberties are.

00:42:19.000 He wants to arrest and jail indefinitely a band like Pussy Riot.

00:42:23.000 And that's an important difference to see that Rage Against the Machine.

00:42:26.000 I mean, look, if I personally could probably write down top five things that would bring a smile to my face, Tom Morello behind bars in a gulag would be at the top of that list, but you can't do it.

00:42:38.000 Did you know that Lane and Gerald are smarter than me, so I'm going to say you're both right.

00:42:42.000 Yes, they're both right.

00:42:44.000 They can both be right, because in the world of geopolitics, nobody's right.

00:42:48.000 Now, after the Cold War, I think we have a clip here, United States presidents, they all followed this idea of liberal hegemony.

00:42:53.000 All of them, really.

00:42:54.000 Republican, Democrat, up until... One of these things is not like the other.

00:42:59.000 One of these things just doesn't belong.

00:43:01.000 Donald Trump.

00:43:02.000 They go out and they make a gas deal.

00:43:05.000 Oil and gas from Russia, where they pay billions and billions of dollars.

00:43:10.000 To Russia. 0.52

00:43:12.000 Okay? 0.99

00:43:13.000 So, they want to protect against Russia, yet they pay billions of dollars to Russia, and we're the schmucks that are paying for the whole thing. 1.00

00:43:23.000 So then... Great word the Jews taught me, schmuck. 1.00

00:43:27.000 Since I came, which is a year and a half, almost 33 billion dollars more is projected to be paid by those NATO nations, but it's not enough. 0.97

00:43:37.000 Do they ever tell you that?

00:43:39.000 No.

00:43:40.000 No.

00:43:41.000 By the way, I love how Donald Trump, he just puts a tone on something he doesn't like.

00:43:44.000 It could be anything.

00:43:45.000 In other words, it could be, he could say, he just says, because you have Russia!

00:43:49.000 It could be the same thing where he says, because you have China!

00:43:52.000 Because you have Jeb!

00:43:55.000 Low energy Russia! 0.51

00:43:57.000 Low energy Putin!

00:44:00.000 Low energy Jeb!

00:44:01.000 He knows that the audience is like, ah, he's saying it in a way that I don't like.

00:44:06.000 He'd be a great pitch man.

00:44:08.000 Now, as part of this agenda to the United States, they sought to westernize Eastern Europe in a lot of ways.

00:44:14.000 Do we have those numbers, by the way, in the show map somewhere?

00:44:16.000 Can someone get me those numbers of what we were paying into NATO?

00:44:19.000 We talked about this a long time ago.

00:44:20.000 Yeah.

00:44:21.000 I want to say that the promise was a certain percentage of GDP.

00:44:24.000 It was either 2 or 3 percent, if I'm not mistaken.

00:44:26.000 And the United States was way above that.

00:44:29.000 And the next closest nation was, I don't know, at some point maybe it was Poland when they were added, and it was like 1 point something percent.

00:44:33.000 But a lot of nations were Paying less than 1%.

00:44:36.000 Right, that was the big problem that Donald Trump had with this, was not paying their fair share, which he thought the Democrats loved the fair share argument.

00:44:42.000 It's different from the UN, which is entirely useless.

00:44:45.000 Well, of course.

00:44:46.000 I don't think we should be in the UN at all.

00:44:47.000 NATO served a purpose, just to be clear.

00:44:50.000 However, NATO has definitely become a political arm in a lot of ways.

00:44:54.000 Yeah, they probably outlived their usefulness a little bit.

00:44:56.000 So, and this goes to Russia wanted NATO to actually remain intact to pacify, unify Germany.

00:45:02.000 Okay, let's go back to this historically, and you can actually explain some of this, Lane.

00:45:06.000 Germany is still actually labeled an enemy of the state of the UN, along with Japan and Italy, right?

00:45:10.000 For good reason!

00:45:12.000 Right, so after the Cold War... Italy!

00:45:14.000 They stole Mussolini! 0.99

00:45:15.000 I know, but he was just kind of, like, he was an ass, but he's kind of cute. 0.99

00:45:18.000 They're kind of like, now they're like, can we just make our pasta and wine from Tuscany? 0.99

00:45:21.000 Have you seen Tuscany?

00:45:22.000 It's beautiful!

00:45:23.000 We don't need a fight!

00:45:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:45:25.000 Oh, no, a fight!

00:45:26.000 Actually, there's nothing they can do, Italy.

00:45:28.000 They haven't won a war in modern history.

00:45:30.000 That's true.

00:45:31.000 I've never seen Tuscany.

00:45:33.000 Have you seen Under the Tuscan Sun?

00:45:35.000 I have, yeah.

00:45:36.000 Diane Lane always looked like an attractive 40-year-old woman, even when she was 20, but then when she's like a 40, 50-year-old, she just looks good now. 1.00

00:45:44.000 Yes, she does.

00:45:45.000 She grew into that body.

00:45:47.000 It's sort of like the photo negative of Clint Howard, who just always looked horrifying.

00:45:51.000 But then you're like, well, he's at the age where he should look horrifying.

00:45:53.000 You're like, oh, that was the case when he was 20.

00:45:56.000 I went to high school with a girl who looked like a mom.

00:45:58.000 She had a mom haircut, and we called her the MILF because she looked 45. 0.97

00:46:01.000 And I saw her not too long ago, and I was like, wow, you look just like you did in high school.

00:46:07.000 There you go.

00:46:08.000 Threw into the Diane Lane body.

00:46:10.000 Who's laughing now?

00:46:10.000 Yeah, everybody.

00:46:12.000 That's not true.

00:46:13.000 So they're still labeled the enemy of the state, along with Japan and Italy.

00:46:18.000 Here's the thing, though, and I know we'll find that funny now, but who can blame the UN?

00:46:21.000 I mean Germany's chief export it's a lot of you don't know it's still this

00:46:49.000 Germans love David Hasselhoff.

00:46:51.000 They do love David Hasselhoff.

00:46:52.000 That's a fact.

00:46:53.000 Celebrate him.

00:46:53.000 I don't know why.

00:46:54.000 I like him.

00:46:55.000 I love that the last part, it's like, he's like, that's his voice, that's not his voice in the end.

00:47:00.000 Come on, guys.

00:47:00.000 It's also weird that they decided to pick, you know, the cafeteria Baywatch viewers.

00:47:05.000 If you like Baywatch, you take all of it, in all its splendor, but instead... And you chose David Hasselhoff.

00:47:09.000 They chose the David Hasselhoff part.

00:47:11.000 Yeah, also as a former drunk, never ate a cheeseburger off a bathroom floor.

00:47:15.000 That's a special kind of problem.

00:47:17.000 Well listen, I will say this, he did have his daughter record him so that he could see it later so that he could change, and he did change.

00:47:23.000 As opposed to Hunter Biden who had his daughter record him so he could get her in on the film and smoke some parm.

00:47:28.000 So the point is, as bad as we think that is, it's nothing compared to the Biden clan.

00:47:32.000 And it was a really good idea having her record him because it didn't haunt him at all.

00:47:38.000 So explain this, so sort of, because NATO, Russia, pro-NATO initially, right?

00:47:43.000 Gingersnap, but NATO is a big problem. 0.84

00:47:46.000 They were pro-NATO initially.

00:47:46.000 Yes, so at the end of the Soviet Union, the beginning of the Russian Federation, they were very pro-NATO in the sense that they wanted it to maintain where it was because they saw it as a The buffer!

00:47:56.000 The whole buffer thing I was talking about!

00:47:58.000 Like this seat between you and your guy friend at the movie theater.

00:48:00.000 Yeah, well they saw it as a way to pacify Germany because what's happened the last time that Germany had been unified, well they tried to invade Russia and before that they tried to invade Russia.

00:48:08.000 Well they did invade. 1.00

00:48:09.000 NATO will be like urinal that I have between my dick and other man's dick. 1.00

00:48:15.000 Yes. 1.00

00:48:16.000 I don't want.

00:48:16.000 Here's the key when Russia use urinal.

00:48:19.000 I use far urinal in corner.

00:48:21.000 Not far urinal, just one space. 0.93

00:48:23.000 Ideal urinal is in corner, because even if we're one space apart, there still is, but there's all this dick-looking space. 0.97

00:48:29.000 But if I aim in corner, that thick backslash, no more backsplash, and there is no dick-looking space. 0.98

00:48:36.000 I urinate in corner. 0.98

00:48:38.000 But to intimidate I slowly move towards you.

00:48:40.000 That's true!

00:48:41.000 Until I share it. 0.99

00:48:42.000 And then eventually I rub earlobe and tell you... You're going to die today. 0.98

00:48:48.000 No, no, that is my... The sword fight was won by me. 0.93

00:48:51.000 Yes!

00:48:53.000 Okay, so continue here, Lane and Gerald.

00:48:56.000 You guys can just go ahead because you hate each other.

00:48:58.000 We don't hate each other.

00:48:59.000 Yes, you do.

00:49:00.000 So they were trying to keep the buffer initially with NATO.

00:49:03.000 So what's the problem now with NATO?

00:49:05.000 The problem that now and the problem that Russia saw then and the problem even our Soviet experts saw then.

00:49:11.000 Experts.

00:49:12.000 George Kennan, you know, he wrote the long telegram, he was kind of the architect of the Soviet containment policy during the Cold War.

00:49:18.000 Architect, I know that word.

00:49:20.000 So he even said as much, and I think we have the quote in here somewhere, that basically... Yes, he said, this was in 97, he said, expanding NATO would be the most fateful error of American policy in the post-Cold War era.

00:49:30.000 Such a decision may be expected to impel Russian foreign policy in directions decidedly not to our liking.

00:49:37.000 So the argument you're making now is that NATO Russia understood NATO, but then because of NATO's expansion and also how and where they expanded, it forced Russia to say, all right, now we're going to have to act aggressively.

00:49:48.000 Right.

00:49:48.000 And you can imagine this from their perspective.

00:49:50.000 And again, this isn't to say Russia is a great country, Vladimir Putin is a great guy.

00:49:53.000 It's not.

00:49:53.000 You're the opposite of all those things.

00:49:55.000 I get it. 1.00

00:49:55.000 Russia's a crap hole and he's a KGB. 1.00

00:49:57.000 Right, but if you're looking at this from a rationalist perspective, if you put yourself in his shoes as the leader of a country, and your greatest adversary for the last hundred years or whatever, 70 years, all of a sudden has the ability to stage troops right next door, you would see that as a threat. 0.98

00:50:13.000 So even if we don't want him to expand, we can understand why.

00:50:16.000 And it should be noted, Bill Clinton, the NATO expansion added Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic.

00:50:22.000 And then in 2004, NATO added seven more Eastern European countries.

00:50:25.000 There's a lot of stuff going on there.

00:50:25.000 So I get it, right?

00:50:27.000 And then obviously we get to Barack Obama's tenure in 2008.

00:50:29.000 NATO endorsed the addition of, of Ukraine and Georgia.

00:50:34.000 Oh, we have a clip.

00:50:35.000 So I get it.

00:50:36.000 I will continue to make America's position clear.

00:50:41.000 We support MAP for Ukraine and Georgia.

00:50:46.000 Helping Ukraine move toward NATO membership is in the interest of every member in the alliance.

00:50:53.000 And will help advance security and freedom in this region and around the world.

00:50:57.000 Did George W. Bush just say he supports MAPS for Ukraine?

00:51:00.000 I believe that's Minor Attracted Person.

00:51:02.000 No, no, no.

00:51:03.000 Dave, oh geez.

00:51:04.000 He came in late.

00:51:05.000 Dave, in this context it actually means Membership Action Plan.

00:51:09.000 Okay?

00:51:09.000 Yeah.

00:51:10.000 Well, no.

00:51:10.000 It's different.

00:51:11.000 Gerald's just trying to justify his sick fetishes.

00:51:14.000 But the truth is, and I hate to point it out, this is also because George W. Bush did his prep by watching Dora.

00:51:18.000 That's right.

00:51:19.000 I'm the map.

00:51:26.000 I like that little guy.

00:51:28.000 He's got a real future.

00:51:30.000 I'll tell you one thing, not a terrorist.

00:51:32.000 Don't get me started on the compass.

00:51:34.000 He's not here to take freedom.

00:51:39.000 Is it weird if I eat chicken wings while I do my State of the Union?

00:51:42.000 So, um, all this angered Russia and Putin responded, uh, the emergence of a powerful military bloc at our borders will be seen as a direct threat to Russian security.

00:51:54.000 And, uh, this is of course, you know, Russia went to war with Georgia.

00:51:56.000 But here's the thing.

00:51:57.000 Not the state of Georgia, just in case.

00:52:00.000 The country.

00:52:00.000 No.

00:52:00.000 No, the state was, uh, that was the Walking Dead.

00:52:02.000 They no longer filmed in Georgia because of their voter ID laws.

00:52:05.000 Yes.

00:52:06.000 But here's the thing.

00:52:08.000 That's probably true.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, it is true.

00:52:11.000 My point is this, so do you think that Russia was, Ginger Snap, justified in going into Georgia? 0.79

00:52:17.000 I mean, I guess my question is, the United States meddled, okay, post-Cold War.

00:52:21.000 I think a big part of this is, You look between World War II and the Cold War, Americans don't have the stomach to win a war anymore.

00:52:28.000 No.

00:52:28.000 You need to go in, break stuff, convert people, and leave.

00:52:31.000 That's the truth.

00:52:32.000 That's what a war has always been.

00:52:34.000 Afghanistan should have been making it look like the ice castle and then walking out. 1.00

00:52:39.000 That's how many bombs we should have dropped.

00:52:41.000 And instead, you go in, you try and work with people, You try and create alliances, and then there are insurgencies, and it just destabilizes it.

00:52:49.000 That's not what war used to be, because we didn't have these global interconnected governments.

00:52:55.000 And that's a problem now.

00:52:56.000 Yeah, they would go in and actually install their own leaders.

00:52:59.000 They would take part of the people and disperse them around the kingdom so that nobody would be associated with just that country to, I don't know, maybe take up arms against them again.

00:53:06.000 Right.

00:53:07.000 I think we've forgotten history.

00:53:08.000 And I'll make that point in just a second here.

00:53:10.000 Actually, no, I'll do it right now.

00:53:12.000 I think history is the problem for a lot of people.

00:53:17.000 It's understanding history, right?

00:53:19.000 And so we've seen Russia.

00:53:20.000 So your point is that, look, he is a power-hungry psychopath, but he's doing what we expect him to do in this situation, and us going into these places is causing it.

00:53:30.000 Alright, I will make a counterpoint to that and say that Russia has always done stuff like this. 0.92

00:53:35.000 After World War II, they actually started kind of pushing communism into places.

00:53:40.000 First, I think Czechoslovakia was one of the first places in the late 1940s, and then we had the outbreak of the Korean War, which was again communism kind of encroaching on freedom.

00:53:49.000 You were in South Korea, you could be singing... They wouldn't have let you in in the first place, my friend, if the North had won, backed by communist China and Russia, right? 0.96

00:53:58.000 So they were pushing before, and so the United States... I wouldn't let you in if I was their bouncer.

00:54:02.000 The United States and its allies had to do something.

00:54:06.000 Right?

00:54:06.000 So you've got a bully.

00:54:08.000 If you leave the bully alone, what does the bully tend to do?

00:54:10.000 So we've heard John Bolton's point.

00:54:12.000 What's your counterpoint there?

00:54:13.000 Okay, so we keep looking- What am I, a war hawk?

00:54:16.000 No!

00:54:16.000 We keep looking at Russia like it's the Soviet Union and the geopolitical situation is exactly the same as it was then.

00:54:23.000 In World War II, if we're going to refer to that, who were we- We are going to refer to that.

00:54:27.000 Why wouldn't we refer to that?

00:54:29.000 Okay, so let's refer to it.

00:54:31.000 It's one of the top two biggest wars.

00:54:34.000 Easy.

00:54:34.000 Who were our allies in World War II?

00:54:37.000 World War II?

00:54:37.000 I mean, we had France.

00:54:38.000 Germany.

00:54:39.000 No.

00:54:41.000 France.

00:54:41.000 Germany.

00:54:41.000 Well, the main guys were France.

00:54:43.000 UK.

00:54:44.000 The UK.

00:54:45.000 Canada.

00:54:46.000 Take a little further east.

00:54:47.000 You want me to go east?

00:54:48.000 You want me to go to Ukraine?

00:54:49.000 Because it didn't show.

00:54:50.000 Russia.

00:54:51.000 No.

00:54:51.000 Do you want me to go to Russia?

00:54:52.000 The Chinese. 0.54

00:54:53.000 The Chinese were one of our allies.

00:54:54.000 Well, hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:54:56.000 Sort of.

00:54:57.000 Sort of.

00:54:58.000 You know what they did?

00:55:00.000 The Chinese basically just got in the way of bullets. 1.00

00:55:03.000 They weren't like an ally.

00:55:05.000 We didn't say they were fans of their alliance. 0.99

00:55:06.000 I didn't say they were good allies, but we were still propping up their... That's a terrible excuse to go around killing them.

00:55:11.000 You know who I'd list as allies before them?

00:55:13.000 Canada, because they actually went in D-Day and stormed the beaches of South Australia.

00:55:17.000 Oh my god, it's so embarrassing.

00:55:18.000 Let me just tell you this.

00:55:18.000 They did.

00:55:19.000 You know when we stormed the beach?

00:55:19.000 The footage is bad.

00:55:20.000 So the United States was, uh, it was Omaha.

00:55:22.000 Yeah.

00:55:23.000 And what was it, Omaha, which ones?

00:55:24.000 Uh, there was Omaha, uh, Gold, Sword.

00:55:27.000 Sword, Juno.

00:55:28.000 So Juno was the Canada one, is the one that I know.

00:55:30.000 Yeah, they walked the shore.

00:55:30.000 I get it, because I learned, yeah.

00:55:31.000 So if you watch the Juno beach, there's actual footage of the Juno beach, them going, and by the way, thank you Canada for all the great work you do, we really appreciate it.

00:55:37.000 I forgot the last one, sorry, I don't remember.

00:55:39.000 But Juno, uh, was a Canadian beach, and we were watching it in class, and so, of course, you know, Saving Private Ryan had been out, so I'm expecting them, you know, going in a pew pew pew.

00:55:46.000 And instead, you just see them kind of like, jog with their packs into the mist.

00:55:51.000 They make it all the way in.

00:55:52.000 Totally fine.

00:55:53.000 No one goes down because they're like, what should we do about the Canadians?

00:55:56.000 Let them be.

00:55:58.000 It doesn't matter.

00:55:59.000 All their horses are drowning. 1.00

00:56:02.000 They're supposed to swim, not when you're on them, asshole! 1.00

00:56:06.000 Joke's on you! 1.00

00:56:07.000 They think this is like White Fang in real life.

00:56:11.000 So China... This is not bacon.

00:56:13.000 So the point is at different geopolitical times we ally with different nations.

00:56:17.000 I get that.

00:56:18.000 So right now we are not allying with China for specific reasons and they don't need to be stated.

00:56:23.000 It's very clear.

00:56:24.000 Right.

00:56:24.000 So, we need to look at the situation as it exists today.

00:56:29.000 And so, what benefit does the United States get from antagonizing Russia when we could use them strategically, just like we used China vis-a-vis the Soviet Union during the Cold War?

00:56:40.000 Fair point.

00:56:40.000 Fair point, right.

00:56:41.000 What benefit, he asked.

00:56:43.000 What?

00:56:44.000 Who?

00:56:45.000 Who?

00:56:47.000 With whom shall we align ourselves?

00:56:50.000 Why are you pronouncing the H?

00:56:53.000 So here's the thing.

00:56:54.000 Do you think that Russia would want that?

00:56:57.000 We have been, like you said, for 70 plus years, the greatest, you know, kind of, I guess, holder against Russia. 0.95

00:57:05.000 Somebody that's going to keep Russia from becoming what they really want to do is dominate all of Europe, right? 0.95

00:57:10.000 Because they showed that.

00:57:11.000 They showed... Do you think for a second that they're going to just walk back to the lines and say, okay, good, the United States is not the threat that we thought they were.

00:57:19.000 they're playing nice with us we're good to go.

00:57:22.000 No, absolutely not, but there is a line that has to be drawn, but our line can't be drawn across the entire globe.

00:57:28.000 It's not!

00:57:29.000 It's drawn at the states that you used to occupy that you left and that now you are unilaterally going back to and saying, hey, you're not a country anymore, you're back to being part of us.

00:57:39.000 The reason that they want Ukraine, it has been several... Why are you yelling?

00:57:42.000 He's not a woman. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Listen...

00:57:45.000 I'm trying to make my point.

00:57:46.000 Just wait until he sees the caps roll he made.

00:57:48.000 Wait until I use all caps, Dave.

00:57:50.000 Okay?

00:57:50.000 You're about to see it.

00:57:52.000 Ukraine has been central to the problem for a very long time, right?

00:57:55.000 By taking Crimea, they are making sure that their Black Sea fleet can get out to the Mediterranean. 0.94

00:58:00.000 That's easy to see.

00:58:01.000 It's easy to understand.

00:58:01.000 Well, they had a naval base there before.

00:58:03.000 They did have a naval base there before, but if we are strengthening Ukraine and their ability to fight, don't you think that naval base starts- Well, hold on.

00:58:09.000 Let's go back to the Ukraine a little bit.

00:58:11.000 And then we want to continue down that road, because the United States spent billions of dollars- Halfway through my point.

00:58:15.000 Billions of dollars trying to influence Ukraine and oppose what some people would say are lawfully elected politicians.

00:58:20.000 So the United States invested $5 billion in Ukraine from 1991 to 2013.

00:58:23.000 The U.S.

00:58:24.000 also funded the National Endowment for Democracy, which helped fund opposition to Ukraine's Democratically elected-ish.

00:58:32.000 Free and fair election.

00:58:33.000 President.

00:58:34.000 Not quite as secure as 2020.

00:58:36.000 Yeah.

00:58:37.000 Number two.

00:58:38.000 Same territory.

00:58:39.000 Really close.

00:58:40.000 He got 80 million.

00:58:41.000 Also, just so you guys can note, to understand sort of a motivation here and who's lining up where, from 1990 to 2015, George Soros' organization, International Renaissance Foundation.

00:58:50.000 I just thought it was a fair with a bunch of people in burlap.

00:58:53.000 They spent 181 million dollars to spread democracy to the Ukraine because Soros loves him some democracy.

00:59:00.000 It's the ethic!

00:59:01.000 Here's Soros admitting basically that on CNN in 2014.

00:59:05.000 First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you, during the revolutions of 1989, funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in Eastern Europe, in Poland, the Czech Republic.

00:59:21.000 Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?

00:59:23.000 Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia.

00:59:32.000 And the foundation has been functioning ever since.

00:59:37.000 And it played an important part in events now.

00:59:41.000 Do you think Ukraine will be able to assert a kind of independence from Russia and an alignment with the West?

00:59:49.000 Not a specific alignment as a NATO, but a kind of orientation toward the West, or will the Russians always stop them?

00:59:55.000 No.

00:59:57.000 Putin will try to destabilize Ukraine, but the Ukrainians, the large majority of Ukrainians, are determined to be independent of Russia.

01:00:09.000 It won't be easy. 0.92

01:00:10.000 Because when you need stabilization, you need yet another evil person who looks like a podling. 0.99

01:00:15.000 What is it with... you got Janet Yellen. 1.00

01:00:17.000 Look!

01:00:18.000 Come on! 0.61

01:00:18.000 That's... they could be... This is what happens when you stare at the crystals. 0.61

01:00:21.000 They could be triplets.

01:00:22.000 He's a billionaire.

01:00:23.000 He can't get eye cream?

01:00:24.000 Yes.

01:00:27.000 Retinol irritates.

01:00:28.000 It just makes my age spot look worse.

01:00:30.000 I have so much baggage from World War II, it starts to form under eyes.

01:00:35.000 This actually is evil trying to escape my face, so I stuff it back and reuse zipper.

01:00:42.000 Yes, I make my first billion of gold fillings.

01:00:46.000 I'm now Russian.

01:00:47.000 When I unzip skin suit, I look like things from They Live. 0.81

01:00:51.000 Now excuse me, I will return to Freggle Rock.

01:00:56.000 This giant is always trying to catch me.

01:00:59.000 I'm dozer.

01:01:00.000 Okay, so you guys go ahead and explain the history here a little bit.

01:01:03.000 So people, let's not get too nerdy so people can understand.

01:01:05.000 No, no, I know.

01:01:05.000 I want people to follow.

01:01:06.000 So the catalyst for the revolution, right?

01:01:08.000 Oh, I don't understand.

01:01:08.000 We're talking about the Ukraine came in 2013, correct?

01:01:10.000 Right.

01:01:11.000 Yes, that's correct.

01:01:11.000 So there was a thing called, like, the Maydan Revolution.

01:01:15.000 That's what they called it in Ukraine.

01:01:16.000 It was basically they, there was the president at the time who was the one that was democratically, as much as you can be democratically elected.

01:01:24.000 Say it with air quotes.

01:01:25.000 Democratically elected.

01:01:26.000 Most free and fair election ever besides 2020.

01:01:28.000 Obviously.

01:01:30.000 The same people George Soros' groups were funding against ended up signing an economic deal with Moscow that was better than the one with the EU.

01:01:40.000 And the economic deal.

01:01:42.000 And the economic deal.

01:01:43.000 A lot of the people in Kiev were unhappy about this because they did want closer relationships with the EU.

01:01:49.000 Right.

01:01:50.000 That's Western Ukraine.

01:01:51.000 Eastern Ukraine's a very different story.

01:01:52.000 Either way, there was a revolution.

01:01:54.000 He ended up being ousted.

01:01:55.000 Yeah!

01:01:56.000 Woohoo! 1.00

01:01:57.000 Right?

01:01:59.000 This should be good.

01:01:59.000 Do you both agree that that's good or no?

01:02:00.000 You think it's bad?

01:02:01.000 No, he was ousted.

01:02:02.000 I don't know if it was good or not, but I know that we definitely played a part in that happening.

01:02:06.000 Yes.

01:02:07.000 Almost like if maybe, I don't know, there was a green movement for freedom in Iran and we would play a role like, yeah, we think that you guys should overthrow your oppressive government.

01:02:17.000 But it wasn't a freedom... Okay, Oliver Norse, listen.

01:02:21.000 Oppressive government.

01:02:23.000 There's only room for one oppressive government at a time, okay?

01:02:27.000 America?

01:02:29.000 Again, this is not like a moral judgment on who was right or who was wrong, just who did what based on the facts and what we are.

01:02:35.000 But you have to look at some of the motivations, right?

01:02:37.000 So if somebody is going to go in and say, look, this guy was in office, he started to get really, really cozy with the Russians and These things were not things that people liked and they protest, they had a revolution, they overthrew him.

01:02:48.000 It's like, okay, well we helped something that was already going on.

01:02:51.000 Maybe if we started the revolution, maybe if everybody loved him and we came in with a propaganda campaign and said, no, no, no, no, no, he's a really bad guy, that'd be a different story.

01:02:58.000 That's exactly what happened.

01:02:59.000 After he got elected in 2010, that's when all the money starts coming in.

01:03:02.000 That's when the Soros Foundation... But there were already people who disagreed with this guy.

01:03:06.000 Yeah, what about in 2015, this doesn't matter, 93% of...

01:03:10.000 Crimeans.

01:03:11.000 Crimeans?

01:03:12.000 I said Crimea before, then I heard Trump saying CRIMEA!

01:03:12.000 Crimeans?

01:03:15.000 I don't know what it is.

01:03:16.000 Right, right, right.

01:03:19.000 Crimeans said they supported Russia's annexation.

01:03:22.000 That's 93%.

01:03:22.000 You can't get 93% of Americans to support anything.

01:03:25.000 Not even that gay reporter on CNN. 0.99

01:03:28.000 How many people did they shoot that said no? 1.00

01:03:30.000 That is a gay face. 1.00

01:03:31.000 When they're walking door to door to ask, hey do you support the Russia's takeover of Crimea? 0.98

01:03:36.000 These were surveys done by German and American pollsters.

01:03:40.000 Oh, Germans! 1.00

01:03:41.000 They make another appearance, of course!

01:03:43.000 I will bring it back to what Stephen said about Patton, how he commented on the Slavic people or the Asiatic people as some people we can't trust.

01:03:50.000 Well, these are the same people we're talking about now.

01:03:52.000 They haven't changed.

01:03:53.000 And most of these people... And we still can't trust them.

01:03:55.000 The ethnic majority in Crimea is Russian.

01:03:58.000 The ethnic majority in eastern Ukraine is Russian.

01:04:02.000 So to say that they are all about being part of the EU and these European values, well we know, according to what Patton said, that doesn't coexist.

01:04:09.000 So why are we trying to make it happen?

01:04:10.000 But does it mean that Russia can just take part of a sovereign country because they want to?

01:04:16.000 Well, I don't think that Ginger Snap is saying that it's a good thing that Russia is taking part of a sovereign country.

01:04:22.000 I think what Ginger Snap is saying is that maybe it's not the United States' job to go in and do anything about it.

01:04:28.000 Emma, do I have that right?

01:04:31.000 Pretty much.

01:04:32.000 What do I have wrong?

01:04:34.000 Yeah, because it pretty much leaves some room there.

01:04:37.000 What are you trying to say, Gene?

01:04:37.000 I think we know that Putin will, though, be the one who's going to show his hand when he eats Oreos.

01:04:42.000 I'll tell you that much.

01:04:45.000 Whether or not they should have annexed Korea or whether or not they should have supported the separatists in eastern Ukraine, I'm not even arguing that.

01:04:56.000 I'm saying you could not have expected them not to do it based on the position they found themselves in.

01:05:02.000 Russia didn't find, and my opinion is that Russia didn't find themselves in any position.

01:05:06.000 Russia was an instigator from the very beginning. 0.99

01:05:10.000 And the response that we had to Russia was like, we've got to curtail... They were Eddie Haskell-ing it a little bit. 0.64

01:05:14.000 We've got to curtail their spread of communism.

01:05:16.000 Like, we faced this in several places around the world.

01:05:18.000 Russia wasn't just sitting back after World War II going, Ha! 0.94

01:05:21.000 Everything's hunky-dory, I guess we'll go back to our lines.

01:05:23.000 They wanted to keep the Eastern Bloc countries. 0.87

01:05:25.000 That was the Iron Curtain.

01:05:26.000 They did that.

01:05:27.000 Yes, but something happened in 1991, and now that country no longer exists.

01:05:34.000 That alliance doesn't exist anymore.

01:05:36.000 I get that.

01:05:37.000 But the same people who in 1991 experienced freedom for the first time in generations Very quickly after that said, we can't do this, we need a state-run agency again, we need people to take care of us, free enterprise needs to go away, and people like Putin were all too willing to come in and actually step down, have the other person that gets placed in that office change the Constitution essentially and say that you can serve as dictator for life, and then he comes back in and he's like, I didn't do it, it was that guy!

01:06:04.000 Russia's Constitution.

01:06:05.000 That's what they're doing right now.

01:06:06.000 It's cute.

01:06:07.000 When was the first time that Russia showed aggression towards these former Eastern Bloc states?

01:06:12.000 Since after the Cold War.

01:06:13.000 Oh, after the Cold War.

01:06:14.000 You're going to the Cold War as the start of this.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, why are you going to the Cold War, Ginger Snap?

01:06:16.000 It was 1949.

01:06:19.000 Because it's Russia now and not the Soviet Union and we're in a much different place.

01:06:22.000 But here's the thing.

01:06:23.000 Listen, I understand that history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

01:06:26.000 And this rhymes a lot with what we've seen before out of Russia.

01:06:30.000 In any state, whether it's the Stars... Yeah, it rhymes with your snaps!

01:06:34.000 I agree Russia historically is not a good country.

01:06:36.000 They're not a good country now.

01:06:37.000 Right, right, right.

01:06:38.000 I agree with that. 0.99

01:06:39.000 Bomb Russia. 0.98

01:06:40.000 You just said bomb Russia, right? 0.96

01:06:41.000 Just for everybody listening.

01:06:42.000 The Red Wings disagree.

01:06:45.000 Well, the Capitals got a lot of value out of it.

01:06:48.000 Let's not talk about hockey.

01:06:49.000 People's eyes will glaze over even further.

01:06:51.000 No, they won't.

01:06:52.000 The point I'm trying to make is from 1991 to 2008, there was no aggression at all from Russia into the former Eastern Bloc.

01:06:58.000 Yeah, there was no aggression at all, Gerald!

01:06:59.000 That's not true.

01:07:00.000 In 2004, didn't they invade Georgia in 2004? 0.59

01:07:02.000 Yeah, what about 2004, do you understand?

01:07:03.000 That was 2008.

01:07:04.000 Well, what did they do in 2004?

01:07:05.000 They did something.

01:07:06.000 Something about 2004, something about 2008.

01:07:09.000 The 2008 invasion of Georgia was in direct response to us offering them a place in NATO.

01:07:14.000 You, Gerald, what'd he say?

01:07:15.000 So, here, let me just play this out for you.

01:07:18.000 Hey, Stephen, you've got a bully attacking you and you can't defend yourself.

01:07:21.000 By the way, if that ever happens, I'll take your side.

01:07:23.000 And the bully goes, see?

01:07:24.000 You're an instigator! 0.97

01:07:25.000 And I'm like, no, it's because you're a bully that I have to say that I'll defend this guy! 0.96

01:07:28.000 Do you understand where we're coming from here? 0.75

01:07:30.000 No, no, I understand.

01:07:31.000 Okay, let me just try and laser in on this here.

01:07:33.000 Okay, we're talking about, your argument is, And I don't think it's ill-founded that Russia felt that they were in a position where they had to – in other words, their justification is they're effectively responding, right, to encroachment, to basically what they would see as an oppressive form of NATO that obviously is unfavorable towards Russia, right?

01:07:49.000 Okay.

01:07:50.000 So that's why they're acting out, let's say that, when we're talking about the Ukraine.

01:07:53.000 Here's my question.

01:07:54.000 If none of that happened to be the case with NATO, do we think that Russia would be straightening up and flying right, or do we think they would still be doing this anyway?

01:08:01.000 I think they would still be doing this whenever they could get away with it.

01:08:04.000 I think that's a fair assessment to a fair guess, and I don't think that your points, Gerald, are unfounded.

01:08:09.000 Yeah.

01:08:10.000 But it had not happened until NATO expansion was offered to Ukraine and Georgia.

01:08:16.000 So the, I don't know, 17 years of evidence that we have suggests that maybe they would not have, but now we know for sure that they would, and we did.

01:08:26.000 So what, okay, and you guys can comment below on who you agree with.

01:08:29.000 Do you agree with Gingersnap, or do you agree with Gerald, or do you agree that we should never talk about Russia again?

01:08:35.000 Until they attack. 0.99

01:08:36.000 Even people, even our audience members who are using VPNs right now in Russia watching are like, WHO GIVES A SHIT?! 1.00

01:08:43.000 I AM ALREADY DRUNK!

01:08:44.000 YOU SAID YOU'D TALK ABOUT ACHING WOMEN ON PAGE FIVE! 1.00

01:08:47.000 WHERE ARE RUSSIAN BREASTS?! 1.00

01:08:49.000 Behind the paywall.

01:08:51.000 Mail on ya! 1.00

01:08:52.000 I'm not even kidding, they do have... Must have hairy nipples. 1.00

01:08:55.000 I haven't seen this with my own eyes, so I can't confirm, but they say they have Russian news that are topless, and then they'll have... Really? 0.98

01:09:02.000 I'm not kidding.

01:09:03.000 Somebody can look this up.

01:09:04.000 They will also have in newspapers, they'll have a naked girl on page five. 1.00

01:09:08.000 Oh, sorry.

01:09:08.000 Yeah, somebody could look this up.

01:09:10.000 I just basically sent you to look up porn.

01:09:11.000 My apologies.

01:09:12.000 That was not the intent.

01:09:14.000 Nope!

01:09:15.000 No it's not!

01:09:16.000 Here's actually the one thing that I will say.

01:09:18.000 In regards to, I agree with you, and this is something that really does actually concern me.

01:09:22.000 No, I agree with Ginger Stamp on one thing.

01:09:23.000 The idea of liberal hegemony.

01:09:25.000 You know, I always said this before, when Barack Obama was president, and there was a situation, you know, Hamas and Israel really, there was a while there where there were a lot of rockets going off.

01:09:33.000 Oh yeah.

01:09:33.000 I was very concerned for the first time I thought that the United States might be on the wrong side of history, might align themselves with the wrong people when you heard his rhetoric toward Israel.

01:09:42.000 I'm not talking about whether we should intervene or not, but there's a big difference between saying we shouldn't intervene at all, we shouldn't be funding any of these nations in the Middle East, and we shouldn't have an alliance with Saudi Arabia, versus saying we should selectively support, you know, Palestine or the people who rule Palestine.

01:09:58.000 And I will say this, for the first time I Back if you're going to, let's say, World War II, or even before that, if you're going to talk about the United States spreading its values throughout the world, this is something where really you would be talking about places like Russia, where people are placed in gulags, or if you're talking about even places, you know, in Africa, where just we know when we would send in missionaries, when we're teaching them about AIDS, and not just throwing contraceptives at them, but letting them know, hey, look,

01:10:21.000 Abstinence is also important.

01:10:22.000 You can't have sex with a child to give your AIDS on down the line. 0.79

01:10:25.000 We needed to actually establish cultural norms.

01:10:27.000 Notice there's something that they believed and say, there's a superiority to this culture as a result of Judeo-Christian values.

01:10:33.000 And so I think we would all have been on board at one point with the idea that all of these countries would be better off if they adopted American values. 0.99

01:10:42.000 Not that it's our job to force them to, however, I can say now for the first time, if I'm a country, and this is not to say that Russia is a free country, this is not to say that Putin is anything other than basically a fascist asshat, okay? 0.85

01:10:56.000 That being said, it's a lot easier right now if you're Putin or any of these countries to basically excoriate the United States for interventionism and go, Look, look, you want us to be like country where you have men beating women in college athletics. 0.78

01:11:11.000 Little boys being taken away from father because not taking puberty blockers.

01:11:16.000 Look, they have abortion up until and including after birth.

01:11:19.000 Run clip of Ralph Northam.

01:11:21.000 Look, they tell their children to get fat and feel that they should be proud and healthy.

01:11:27.000 I rest my case with exhibit Z, Lizzo eating a pizza with ranch.

01:11:32.000 My point is, it does concern me that the values right now that we would export are not values that I would want exported.

01:11:40.000 No, no, no, unfortunately those kinds of values... She replaced the cheese with it, let's not go nuts.

01:11:44.000 That's true, yeah.

01:11:45.000 Those are the kind of values that should not be... And those are the kind of values that make me go, eh, I get why they hate us sometimes, right?

01:11:50.000 Like sometimes it makes it apparent, but here's the thing... Yeah, maybe ISIS has a point. 0.99

01:11:54.000 We have learned throughout history that we can't be isolationists.

01:11:57.000 Whether we want to or not, we are the world's greatest superpower at this moment.

01:12:02.000 Now, that can change.

01:12:02.000 Historically, those things change.

01:12:04.000 People move up and down, especially if you get away from the values that made you the superpower in the first place.

01:12:09.000 But we are in this position.

01:12:11.000 So what do we do?

01:12:11.000 Well, in the 1930s, we said, your problem over there, not our problem over here.

01:12:15.000 And you know what followed?

01:12:17.000 The greatest wartime period in the history of the world.

01:12:20.000 That's the one with the Nazis, correct? 0.96

01:12:22.000 Uh, yes.

01:12:23.000 Right?

01:12:23.000 Good.

01:12:23.000 Because everybody looks at World War II as 1939 and on, and the seeds for that were planted far, far, far earlier.

01:12:30.000 Right.

01:12:30.000 And that's why I say history is rhyming.

01:12:32.000 You have the former Soviet Union, which is now Russia.

01:12:35.000 They are going back into places that used to be a part of that Soviet bloc.

01:12:38.000 People who are militarily beaten down, knowing that they can't even hold their own region if they get attacked.

01:12:44.000 Right?

01:12:45.000 They're not the superpower that they were, and that grates at people.

01:12:47.000 That grated at Hitler, and he used it to push back and say, see? 0.55

01:12:51.000 We're being kept down, and we're not as great as we once were, and we can be again.

01:12:55.000 So that's something you have to keep an eye on.

01:12:57.000 If they invade Ukraine right now, I'm not saying we send troops.

01:13:01.000 But I think we have to understand that this is not one of those silly things that Barack Obama did.

01:13:06.000 There's a red line for Assad and Assad goes, boom, steps across the red line. 0.99

01:13:10.000 What are you going to do, pussy boy? 1.00

01:13:12.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:13:13.000 And Gaddafi, you can't do this.

01:13:15.000 Gaddafi does it.

01:13:16.000 His own people take him out. 0.99

01:13:18.000 Thank God they had the balls to because we certainly didn't. 0.96

01:13:20.000 Hillary Clinton says, why should we have to talk about this stuff anymore? 0.96

01:13:23.000 I get it, I understand that.

01:13:24.000 But we do have to at certain points in history go, okay, If we don't stop him now, if we don't do something now, this could spin out of control, because it has over and over and over.

01:13:35.000 And that's what Patton was talking about after World War II.

01:13:37.000 He was saying Russia's going to become a power that we really should have squashed when we could have. 0.56

01:13:41.000 What do you... Okay, go ahead, Jimmy.

01:13:41.000 Yeah.

01:13:43.000 I agree completely with all that.

01:13:45.000 I just... I win!

01:13:46.000 Woo! 0.99

01:13:46.000 I think you have the players wrong here. 0.99

01:13:47.000 Oh, who are the players?

01:13:48.000 You think China's the player. 0.97

01:13:49.000 They are the player.

01:13:51.000 So here's the thing, if we...

01:13:53.000 China can be controlled economically to some degree, whereas Russia, it's harder to.

01:13:58.000 Russia, you say the Nord Stream thing, and they're just gonna fight you, right?

01:14:02.000 With China, we can be like, hey, you can't bring in—highway! 1.00

01:14:05.000 Whatever that guy pronounced it the other day.

01:14:06.000 Isn't China in all of our debt? 0.99

01:14:08.000 Oh, I was—oh, highway.

01:14:09.000 Not all of it, no.

01:14:10.000 I was thinking, you mean the phones.

01:14:12.000 Huawei.

01:14:13.000 Yeah, okay.

01:14:13.000 Huawei, whoa!

01:14:14.000 Pretty powerful.

01:14:15.000 We have little to no economic leverage over the Chinese, and they frankly don't care very much. 1.00

01:14:20.000 Their economy is almost to pass ours as far as GDP size goes.

01:14:23.000 Russia's about 120th the size of ours.

01:14:28.000 They're not a real threat that they were during the 1960s, 1970s.

01:14:32.000 China is that threat that our focus should be on. 1.00

01:14:34.000 So what would you have us do with the Ukraine right now?

01:14:36.000 Make good money on rubber.

01:14:39.000 Listen, this is not to say that because we do have the 1994 agreement where we made them give up nukes that said, yes, we will defend you.

01:14:45.000 We do have that.

01:14:45.000 Right.

01:14:46.000 So our word.

01:14:47.000 We dug ourselves this hole so we might have to do something.

01:14:50.000 I don't know.

01:14:50.000 I don't want to send troopers.

01:14:51.000 We dug ourselves hole like pedophile in Russia who then stabbed himself in chest 28 times. 0.99

01:14:58.000 That's how pedophiles kill themselves in Russia. 0.67

01:15:01.000 My point is, and I think you would probably agree with this, is that our trying to make the world a liberal bastion is not going to happen.

01:15:10.000 Very, very nice.

01:15:11.000 Friend of Clinton's.

01:15:12.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:15:13.000 It makes snow grave.

01:15:15.000 My point is, and I think you would probably agree with this, is that our trying to make

01:15:18.000 the world a liberal bastion is not going to happen.

01:15:20.000 It has failed.

01:15:21.000 Yeah.

01:15:22.000 While we've been trying to do that, countries like Russia and China understand that realism,

01:15:26.000 power, is this thing that still governs politics across the world. So Russia understands that.

01:15:31.000 They don't like China inherently. They would love, in my opinion, to form closer relationships with us.

01:15:38.000 The US?

01:15:39.000 Yes.

01:15:40.000 Against China? 0.91

01:15:42.000 Yes.

01:15:42.000 Only if it's the enemy of my enemy is my friend, maybe.

01:15:45.000 Yes, that's politics for the world.

01:15:47.000 I don't trust either of them further than I can throw them, and I can throw a Chinese man much further than I can throw the average Russian. 1.00

01:15:51.000 Probably could, yeah.

01:15:53.000 Last week it was like 14 feet.

01:15:56.000 I think we even have a poll in here from that they ran in Moscow, that the Moscow Times ran, that said like five out of six Russians are friendly towards the West.

01:16:04.000 They don't have problems with this.

01:16:06.000 There's no ideological rift that existed during the Cold War anymore.

01:16:09.000 Well, so it's their leaders, then.

01:16:11.000 And that's the problem, because, okay, maybe the people aren't at our throat, but their leaders kind of are.

01:16:16.000 And I'm not saying, again, like, we're not in the Cold War right now, we're not in the same position that we've been in historically with Russia, but I am much more afraid of a 120th the size of our economy Russia that used to be a powerhouse, and they're trying to get back there, and they'll do whatever they have to. 0.96

01:16:30.000 So Ukraine was not just important for a number of the other reasons that we've talked about, they were the breadbasket of the Soviet Union.

01:16:36.000 They fed most of the Soviet Union, which is why Hitler went there first to try to destabilize Russia. 0.89

01:16:42.000 And he almost succeeded.

01:16:44.000 And if he had, we'd be looking at a very different world map right now.

01:16:48.000 So I don't look at Russia as a non-threat, and I'm also not taking my eye off China. 0.98

01:16:52.000 I get that they're a bigger threat.

01:16:53.000 We've talked about Taiwan on this show several times.

01:16:55.000 I really don't like China.

01:16:56.000 And here's the difference.

01:16:57.000 I like the food.

01:16:59.000 Well, not the dogs.

01:17:01.000 I don't really need any more super fried scorpion in my life.

01:17:05.000 Oh, we're talking about Americanized Chinese. 0.72

01:17:06.000 Did somebody threaten to nuke Georgia over the weekend?

01:17:10.000 Or nuke Alabama? 0.59

01:17:11.000 Did you just say Alabama?

01:17:12.000 It's a college game gone wrong.

01:17:14.000 I thought that was Green Bay.

01:17:16.000 It was Austin, Texas.

01:17:17.000 I love how when he threatened to nuke the United States he was like, I'm gonna hit New York, Chicago, Washington, D.C.

01:17:24.000 and Austin.

01:17:25.000 So cool?

01:17:27.000 I think we're all good.

01:17:27.000 Look, here's the point, and this is one of those things where, you know, I hate to use this where people say everything is nuanced, and the truth is there's really not much nuance to abortion as far as, okay, look, you either support it or you don't, and you at least draw a line as to where life begins or it doesn't.

01:17:42.000 There really isn't all that much nuance to you either have the right to speak freely or you don't, okay?

01:17:46.000 It doesn't need to be that long of a back-and-forth conversation.

01:17:49.000 There really isn't all that much nuance to the Second Amendment.

01:17:51.000 You either have the right to self-preservation, self-protection, or you don't.

01:17:53.000 when we're dealing with geopolitical issues, however, that really, and that's almost, I

01:17:59.000 hate the term geopolitical, when we're dealing with international politics, let's just make

01:18:02.000 it simple.

01:18:03.000 You're dealing with international politics, you are also dealing with countries who don't

01:18:06.000 act within the kinds of rights that we know and take for granted.

01:18:10.000 A lot of you, for example, don't know that there really is no other place on earth outside of the United States where you have the right to speak freely.

01:18:15.000 Free speech doesn't exist.

01:18:16.000 It doesn't exist in Canada.

01:18:17.000 It doesn't exist in the UK.

01:18:18.000 It doesn't exist in Australia.

01:18:19.000 Not to mention the right to keep and bear arms.

01:18:21.000 There are a lot of rights that we have enshrined in our Constitution.

01:18:23.000 So, when you're dealing with international relations, there is a little bit more nuance because, and I don't want to say nuance, there is more that needs to be taken into consideration when it comes time to pull the trigger.

01:18:35.000 In other words, here, when you say, all right, look, you can't do this, this is going to the Supreme Court, it needs to be swatted down.

01:18:40.000 All right, look, this is an issue where it's black and white, we understand, okay, the states have voted.

01:18:44.000 When you're dealing with, do we intervene?

01:18:47.000 What do we do here?

01:18:48.000 How much of it is the United States' fault?

01:18:49.000 How much is, you know, the international community meddling?

01:18:53.000 How much is it their fault?

01:18:55.000 What can the United States do at this point?

01:18:56.000 How much does it relate to a national security issue?

01:18:59.000 I think we can agree on this.

01:19:00.000 China, Taiwan, we all here in the studio have a red line.

01:19:03.000 That needs to absolutely be stopped because not only is China a key player, not only does China hate the United States, but Taiwan, if Taiwan goes, that would be a huge deal for international security, period.

01:19:15.000 Not just the USA.

01:19:16.000 With Russia, I think Ginger Snett makes some valid points. 1.00

01:19:19.000 I think that Gerald makes some valid points.

01:19:21.000 I'm interested to hear you guys comment below and you guys can also, after you comment, I don't really take ambient, just to be clear.

01:19:26.000 I want people to be like, he's relapsed.

01:19:27.000 way to address the Russia-Ukraine thing. There's no other way to do it aside from playing risk

01:19:31.000 and acting it out, which maybe we'll do. Maybe we'll do and we'll just use Dave's Ambien instead

01:19:35.000 of figurines. I'd really take Ambien just to be clear. I get to be the Xanax thimble. I want people

01:19:41.000 to be like, he's relapsed. No, he hasn't relapsed at all.

01:19:43.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Of course, Ambien doesn't count. Uh, and then...

01:19:47.000 And smash the like button if you're watching on YouTube.

01:19:49.000 We have a lot to get to the rest of this week, including Wikipedia.

01:19:53.000 That's a huge video on Thursday.

01:19:54.000 And now we're going to go to Mug Club and play Finnegan Knows All, which would never be permissible here on YouTube.

01:19:59.000 Gingersnap, thank you very much.

01:20:00.000 I appreciate it.

01:20:00.000 You are articulate, and ladies who like redheads will be all over themselves.

01:20:04.000 Get out! 0.98

01:20:05.000 Get out before it gets creepy!

Louder with Crowder - January 24, 2022

Russia-Ukraine Crisis Explained: Why Europe's on the BRINK OF WAR! | Louder with Crowder

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