00:00:52.000It's like common ground to hold the spread of lies.
00:00:56.000And A, America first, America first, and non fatal.
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00:04:02.000And it happened with today's theme is an absence of facts.
00:04:07.000People just go out and make claims, and then conspiracies are spun.
00:04:11.000And I don't even mean theories, I just mean just general conspiracies with no basis in reality.
00:04:16.000That brings us to Tucker and Greg Bavino and some of the claims that he makes specifically against obviously a friend of the show, Tom Holman.
00:04:22.000I've said he's MVP of the administration.
00:14:03.000So, yesterday, in response to us defending the American way of life, saying that I don't think mass importing H1B Indian migrants is actually good for American workers, there was quite a bit of outrage, and you can check the references.
00:14:16.000This comes from yours and Dieni on X wrote H1B Indians staying in America should leave the USA as soon as possible so that America faces a massive economic downfall.
00:15:09.000So then there were a bunch of bots in, they're out in full force in the reply section, namely a post featuring this clip, which I stand by.
00:15:33.000Because they start negotiating after the contract and they go, well, actually, this, but look at this, there's a dent, and so I'm going to pay you nothing.
00:16:29.000I had no reason to believe that it was incorrect.
00:16:33.000I mean, I wouldn't make the argument that Indians, in particular, Indian immigrants, that they're breaking the law outside of sexual assault more than other demographics.
00:16:40.000I probably wouldn't argue with the general concept that they tend to pay taxes more than other groups of immigrants because they're doing this, they're taking.
00:16:50.000They're taking part in a scam really through legal loopholes, so it all kind of makes sense that it would be on the books.
00:16:55.000Well, it turns out that the talking points are flat out false.
00:17:56.000I'm not one of those people who goes out and claims to be a genius because one time I didn't, I was like just a couple of points shy of Mensa, and I really only wanted to remember to do a video to go in and mess with people in Mensa and like just be drinking and be like, hey, what if we're all assholes, guys?
00:18:09.000And I was like, damn it, I missed it by two points.
00:18:13.000And Indians have defrauded Americans from billions and billions of dollars, American taxpayers through call center scams, other forms of fraud, credit card fraud, right?
00:18:24.000It's basically like QVC, only you get a phone call or a pop up.
00:19:29.000So, the report that he is referencing and these Indian spam accounts will be referencing, it actually describes tax revenue, not income taxes.
00:19:37.000So, their claim is 1.5% of the population, Indian American immigrants, they pay up to 6% of total U.S. income tax revenue.
00:19:48.000He's referencing this one report, by the way, that comes from Boston Consulting, where they say that Indians contribute 5% to 6%, $300 billion in tax revenue annually.
00:20:00.000And it's very hard to figure out the methodology because they're not transparent about it.
00:20:04.000It almost certainly includes, from what I'm reading here, tax revenue from all employees under the umbrella of Indian run companies.
00:20:15.000And they don't describe, I don't mean Indian owned companies.
00:20:18.000I don't mean Indian or companies where there's an Indian CEO.
00:20:22.000It's just specified as Indian run companies.
00:20:25.000So, like an example here would be Microsoft.
00:20:28.000Okay, so Microsoft is a company now that is run by an Indian.
00:20:32.000They would include every single employee at Microsoft and every employee of any third party companies who supply Microsoft as Indian immigrants, and that would be a part of the total tax revenue.
00:20:45.000Even if the employees are Mexican American immigrants, even if they're white, even if they're Asian.
00:20:51.000So it takes the umbrella of a company, goes how much revenue?
00:20:54.000Also, find me the Indian created, the Indian invented, spearheaded Microsoft.
00:21:01.000If you look at these Indian run companies, Almost never are they created from the ground up.
00:21:06.000At some point, they get appointed CEO.
00:21:13.000Now, I tell you, we're still going through this.
00:21:15.000It has to be extrapolated because Boston Consulting does not share their methodology.
00:21:19.000But the report specifying Indian run companies vaguely, it was written by people like Shoba Visawananathan, Santosh Aparutta Thai, M.R. Rangaswamy, which I love because that means that the first two were too long to pronounce in comparison to.
00:22:21.000Many of these Indian professionals are imported H 1B holders who are undercutting Americans, doing a job that an American can do, that we have Americans who are willing to do these jobs, and they're doing it for slightly less money.
00:22:33.000And often they do it going through a diploma mill and some third party staffing agency that skims off the top.
00:22:40.000Take the credit card scams, the phone calls that you've all gotten that frustrate you, now apply it to the largest sector designed for scam of our immigration system, H 1Bs.
00:23:03.000Explain it to me like I'm five years old.
00:23:07.000How does someone coming in, let's say working at Meta, doing a job for $70,000 that a qualified American who went to school would do for $120,000, tell me how that benefits the United States?
00:23:43.000Like it's the culture thing that we've talked about over and over and over again.
00:23:46.000If these people come to this country and have no desire to become Americans and push forward the American ideals that we all love, then I don't care how much they earn.
00:23:53.000I don't care how much they bring to this country.
00:23:55.000I don't care how far ahead they get in an AI race.
00:26:45.000Let's get to the bulk of this program, which we do, as I told you, live weekdays, 11 a.m., and we always provide references, especially for a claim truth segment.
00:26:53.000So Tucker Carlson sat down with not Hunter Biden.
00:28:04.000And this fact, which is a central fact, which will define what our country is like going forward, or even if it exists as a coherent country, is being completely ignored.
00:28:13.000Okay, here's the truth that is completely false.
00:28:17.000Now, I agree with the premise that immigration policy will determine whether this nation still, that's why it was the first time I ever endorsed a candidate, because I said if we don't win this election, if we don't actually close the borders, if we don't do something about third worlders raiding our country effectively, you will cease to have a country.
00:28:34.000So, no one believes that that is more important than the people in this room.
00:28:38.000But to say nothing has been done, well, it's false.
00:28:48.000Deportations are, again, these numbers are tough to gauge, but the estimate is 3 million counting.
00:28:55.000Ice arrest, 50,000 in the month of July, over 50,000, which was the most on record ever.
00:29:02.000Did you vote for perfect or did you vote for more than ever?
00:29:07.000H 1Bs, overseas H 1Bs applications, down 87%.
00:29:13.000A court tried to roll you can't do that, so Donald Trump said, you know what, we're going to levy it as a different fee and we're going to apply it to all H 1Bs, including those here in the United States, not just overseas.
00:29:47.000Again, this is not to say that you should compromise when compromise isn't necessary, but you do need to face the prospect of the alternative.
00:29:54.000Do you believe any of that would have been done under Kamala Harris, an extension of Joe Biden?
00:31:14.000It's only increased in speed since Bovino's been gone.
00:31:18.000If you're going to float conspiracy theories, right, just sort of base it on conjecture, you could make a stronger case that Bovino wanted to hamstring the administration.
00:31:27.000So that he could go out and clout chase and say that they betrayed you.
00:31:32.000Because there's certainly more evidence here that he was less effective than how it's being conducted without him.
00:32:06.000Trump is only targeting the worst criminals, and he's ignoring all of the other immigrants, which, by the way, I've always said, you've got to deport anyone who's here illegally.
00:32:14.000It's not just criminals, but it's a good place to start.
00:32:17.000You know, Mullivan, what is he listening to?
00:32:19.000He's listening to Tom Holman, Rodney Scott, worst of the worst, and targeting.
00:32:36.000I can tell you that it's false because Tom Holman was on this show.
00:32:40.000He said, Yeah, well, we're going to go after the worst, but obviously, if they encounter someone, they're going after a criminal, and they encounter someone who's here illegally, they still got to do their job.
00:33:44.000There are more arrests since then, and we're only deporting violent felons.
00:33:46.000We're actually deporting far more run of the mill immigrants, who, by the way, yes, he goes on to make the point, will destroy your culture in the United States.
00:33:53.000It's not just MS 13, it's those who change your neighborhoods.
00:33:58.000Yeah, by the way, just remember in the background of this, sentiment publicly was changing massively in the other direction because of this guy.
00:34:05.000Right, because of his tactics in the field.
00:34:07.000This guy, I hate to say it, he was just a loose cannon.
00:34:10.000People were not ready for what he was trying to do.
00:34:13.000And it was turning the tides against immigration enforcement.
00:34:52.000Do an operation, spread that, splash that across the headlines, and gaslight America into thinking that's what we do every single day all across the United States when nothing could be further from the truth.
00:35:06.000I don't know if 1,200 a day, or there was one day where they want you to think they're doing that every single day, which there's nothing further from the truth.
00:35:14.000Okay, I don't know if nothing further from the truth, because here's the truth just left to CBS.
00:35:45.000And this one is bothersome because it's just a flat out lie, and it's also kind of a character assassination lie that Holman was only a Border Patrol agent for like a year.
00:36:54.000Yeah, the guy, then he moved over to the plainclothes division as if to say, well, and then he got out of the field and stopped doing the real work.
00:38:21.000And it certainly matters to the people who made immigration their primary issue, which, by the way, we've been told doesn't matter so much anymore.
00:38:28.000At one point, by Tucker himself, that that's a distraction.
00:38:31.000Because here's the truth: as far as opinion, people who voted for President Trump, most of them voting on the issue of immigration, he's actually more admired than Reagan or Lincoln, according to CNN.
00:38:44.000The president, Republicans most admire.
00:39:01.000And then Abraham Lincoln, who, by most historic accounts, is the greatest president of all time, but Republicans say that the president they most admire by what is this?
00:39:11.000This is six, seven times as much as John Trump at 53%.
00:40:32.000And if there were, here's the thing if there was proof of that, I would absolutely cite those numbers.
00:40:38.000Here's the truth the real number, and it's an estimate, the low end 20 million, which absolutely seems way too low, to 40 million, I've seen some considered not as legitimate estimates as high as 60 million.
00:40:51.000Let's take the highest number that I could possibly cite in trying to make the case.
00:40:58.000That's almost a third of the population.
00:41:00.000You would see these people everywhere.
00:41:02.000You would think, and here's the thing Unless they're hiding in caves or sewers.
00:41:04.000People will anecdotally go, Well, I do see them everywhere.
00:41:07.000He's hoping that you do that, and he's trying to diminish people who are using legitimate references and numbers, using statistics that are easily debunked.
00:41:16.000That's a gift to the left, to be clear.
00:41:18.000And while people are talking about psyops, while people are talking about, Oh, you know what, I think they're in on it.
00:41:24.000If I was a part of the progressive left, I would absolutely drip out some false stats that I know people are likely to use.
00:41:40.000Can you find me a single legitimate source?
00:41:42.000We've now moved from addressing a very legitimate issue, let's say 40 million illegal aliens, and we need to deport them.
00:41:50.000But we've sidestepped and it's been refuted because you've chosen to use a lie as the basis of your argument.
00:41:56.000That is why, as a practice, and people get frustrated sometimes when I do this, I use The most conservative numbers and estimates I possibly can, and base the argument off of that.
00:42:08.000So, when confronted, there is no wiggle room, and we have to address the issue as seen here with this Monticelli character.
00:43:31.000Let's just change that to illegal aliens, as opposed to the discussion about trans athletes, which is what that changed my mind was.
00:43:37.000Let's say we sat down and talked about illegal aliens.
00:43:40.000And instead of saying, Well, the estimates are 20 to 40 million illegal aliens, and that's a problem, instead of that, I said 105 million illegal aliens.
00:43:49.000And then that guy, that little arrogant prick, goes, Actually, the only legitimate estimates here are 20 to 40 million.
00:43:55.000So, why are you lying to your audience?
00:43:58.000He would have had a clippable moment, a gotcha.
00:44:26.000Through convincing other people in changing other people's minds.
00:44:30.000If you were to go forward and go, well, Donald Trump has betrayed every single person because he's immensely unpopular, and that's because we haven't arrested anybody, it's all gone down, and we have 105 million illegals in this country.
00:44:42.000If I sat down, I would get torn apart by the lowest retard they could fit at a Jubilee table.
00:45:09.000With 3 million plus gone, the highest month in arrests in July, why do you think Tucker's doing this now?
00:45:18.000Because listen, I don't think Tucker's just doing interviews with people because he thinks it's an interesting subject to talk about.
00:45:23.000I'm way beyond that with Tucker Carlson right now.
00:45:26.000Is it because this is one of the largest wins that this administration has and we and some others, but really we have been really trumpeting this as listen, this would have been a game changer if only this had occurred?
00:45:39.000Cutting off net negative migration, a stat that we didn't even include in that list.
00:45:44.000There's so many other great ones that we took out net negative migration.
00:46:51.000Anything else, just take any other argument that you would have.
00:46:54.000If you start off with a radically untrue premise that someone who's not even versed in that topic can easily refute, you acknowledge, you lose, right?
00:50:23.000The idea that we would be stalking U.S. liquor is absurd.
00:50:26.000I don't respond to a dictator like President Trump, a bully like President Trump, because he's got some sort of need to try and look macho or whatever is completely wrong.
00:52:34.000And then, you know, the Minister LeBlanc went back to Ottawa and they spoke with Premier, spoke with the Prime Minister.
00:52:43.000And when they came back, they had some additional views, they had some additional requests, they had some additional things that were too much for the United States.
00:52:54.000It wasn't something we could do at the time.
00:52:56.000We felt that giving them the best deal in the world would have been enough to get us over the hump and put us on a positive track to even bigger and better things.
00:55:00.000US streaming platforms had to promote the French language.
00:55:02.000And if you understand the history of the Ligue des Langues and the language police, you understand that this is just, I mean, it's just effectively a form of, closer to a form of fascism, actually.
00:55:24.000Also, what demand we had was that the U.S. cannot dictate Canada the tariff on steel that they have on other countries like Xin, China, the way you guys say.
00:55:38.000Yeah, because that brings us to number two as far as reasons Canada absolutely deserves these tariffs.
00:55:46.000They act as China's Trojan horse, and that was a big part of negotiations.
00:55:51.000So, again, Greer pointed this out in July.
00:55:54.000Where he was saying, well, you know, we can't have Canada act as a Trojan horse for China, where when we have, for example, tariffs on China because we're protecting our economy versus obviously those who would be opposed to a booming American economy, we can't just allow it to go through Canada and come through under a deal that doesn't punish them.
00:56:12.000It would be like sealing up the southern border and Canada saying, yeah, we're going to open ours, which is why we may need to build a wall, I think, on the Canadian border.
00:56:56.000And for Canada to build our own competitive EV sector, we need to learn from, partner with.
00:57:03.000And access and build supply chains with China.
00:57:08.000We're going to start allowing up to 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles into the Canadian market at the most favored nation tariff rate, which is 6.1%.
00:57:20.000But we hear these arguments so often like, well, we need Indian immigrants.
00:57:38.000Maybe you can partner with the United States.
00:57:39.000Now, I know he gets some battery stuff from China and stuff like that, but still, you could partner with an American company instead.
00:57:45.000And here's the thing they're saying the same thing.
00:57:47.000So Greer is saying, well, we don't want Canada to be a Trojan horse, where basically, you know, Canada is listed as a tier one China transshipment country.
00:57:56.000And that means that those goods that would be coming from a partnership with China would then be subject to free trade with the United States under the USMCA.
00:58:04.000Now, remember how mad the Democrats were over NAFTA?
00:58:10.000And that's because it really did sell out the American manufacturing sector.
00:58:15.000How are you going to onshore jobs if you're doing this?
00:58:19.000Basically, our government is saying, well, you can't be a Chinese Trojan horse.
00:58:24.000And you just heard Carney go, well, Canada has to be a Chinese Trojan horse.
00:58:29.000So now you hear the other side, Greer, clarifying that Canada has not done enough to stop this.
00:58:34.000They actually welcome it, and that's a sticking point.
00:58:37.000If we want to give better treatment, like we were offering to Canada, the best treatment in the world, We expect other countries to also protect their borders.
00:58:46.000We think they need to do more to protect the North American market.
00:58:50.000Mexico itself, they've been raising tariffs on various Asian goods to protect the North American market.
00:58:56.000I would say in USMCA originally, there was actually a provision in there where Canada, Mexico, and America all agreed that if anyone ever joined a free trade agreement with a non market economy country like China, that that country could get kicked out of the deal.
00:59:11.000Who, again, just laid us at the feet of, I can't believe Trump is doing this and these tariffs, they're awful.
00:59:16.000What do you propose be done when Canada says, well, we're going to partner with China, we're going to import this, and then we're going to be a de facto exporter for China, and we're going to put it under the cloak of free trade?
00:59:38.000Would you go the route of NAFTA again?
00:59:42.000Which would be just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, fair trade.
00:59:46.000Which, by the way, I kind of supported at one point in time, in theory, when I was younger and I was dumber as a libertarian until I realized, oh, there's no such thing as free trade.
01:01:05.000We put a tariff of 25 percent and we refuse to certify Gulfstream Jetman because a big percentage of our economy is Bombardier and Pratt Whitney.
01:01:18.000And we, you know, we don't want to, we can't compete, man.
01:01:22.000So we put that on you 300 tariff on the dairy, 238 percent on poultry, and not all the time, but it's go up that high if you're going to be.
01:03:14.000And so I think us asking for something fair and reasonable, which, if you look at these requests, I would say are certainly within those bounds.
01:03:22.000Canada refusing, this would be disastrous for them.
01:03:24.000Be as bad as the time they messed up Thomas the tank engine.
01:05:02.000You want to stop those guys, and you know, you put your burqa on your driver's license, you have a laugh.
01:05:08.000By the way, listen, Canada, I understand Canada wants to protect themselves.
01:05:12.000Every country has a right to try to make sure that they don't lose industry, just like the United States, but that's not what they're doing.
01:05:17.000Canada's not just doing, say, hey, we want to protect our stuff.
01:05:20.000Canada is going after our biggest trading foe and saying, hey, the water's warm.
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