Louder with Crowder - March 21, 2022


UNDERCOVER: Crowder Infiltrates "FAT STUDIES" Conference | Louder with Crowder

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fat studies conference fat phobia in Trump Air fatness as self-care fatness resistance
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Steven Crowder
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Donald Trump C. Matheson Esther Rothblum Steve Matthews Lucy Sonia Renee Taylor Kim Kardashian Sargi Bartman Kim Jong-un Bess Levin Kat Posse Twinkie Biden Dave
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Academia is bursting at the seams with self-love, acceptance, and...well, well, it turns out that there is an entire academic discipline known as Fat Studies, home to peer-reviewed think pieces such as Overcoming Fear of Fat, and Queering Fat Embodiments. Yes, this is actually being taught by professors at some of the world s most prestigious institutions, and there s even an annual Fat Studies conference at Massey University where all the brave and beautiful post-graduates can submit their essays and present them in their fun-sized safe space.

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00:00:00.000 Academia.
00:00:01.000 We'd like to think of it as the key to the world of knowledge, with the key masters being the best among us.
00:00:06.000 Unfortunately, what we know as the world of higher education has become a bit of a farce.
00:00:12.000 And by bit, I mean entirely.
00:00:14.000 Enter the riveting academic world of Fat Pride.
00:00:21.000 Bursting at the seams with self-love, acceptance, and...
00:00:24.000 Well, just bursting at the seams, it turns out that there is an entire academic discipline known as Fat Studies, home to peer-reviewed think pieces such as Overcoming Fear of Fat and Queering Fat Embodiments.
00:00:37.000 Yes, this is actually being taught by professors at some of the world's most prestigious institutions.
00:00:42.000 There's even an annual Fat Studies conference at Massey University, where all the brave and beautiful post-grads can submit their essays and present them in their fun-sized safe space.
00:00:52.000 So let's meet a few of my soon-to-be peer-reviewed colleagues.
00:00:55.000 Our Fatlicious keynotes, Esther Rothblum and Sonia Renee Taylor,
00:00:59.000 have given us amazing talks about fat histories, our fat present,
00:01:05.000 and what our fat futures might hold.
00:01:07.000 How does fat blackness embody the future? 1.00
00:01:10.000 I am an artist. 0.97
00:01:11.000 I'm an activist.
00:01:12.000 I'm a serious macaroni and cheese maker.
00:01:15.000 I'm black.
00:01:15.000 I'm queer.
00:01:16.000 I'm fast. 0.63
00:01:17.000 I'm neurodivergent.
00:01:18.000 I'm upwardly class-mobile.
00:01:20.000 Quote, I'm a fat water jugger myself, and every time I go to the swimming pool, I can see what people are thinking about my appearance.
00:01:28.000 And fatness is always trying to be contained.
00:01:32.000 The world is always trying to contain fatness.
00:01:34.000 The world is always trying to wrangle fatness.
00:01:36.000 You need to see fat bodies take up space and allow them to move the way fat bodies move. 0.99
00:01:42.000 And I've called for a new fat ethics, acknowledging the role science has played in the oppression of fat people.
00:01:48.000 White men, small white men, who in many ways have been the early scholars in this area.
00:01:55.000 Interesting to see small white men studying large women, mostly.
00:02:01.000 So what you're looking at on the left hand is Sargi Bartman, also known as the Hot and Hot Venus.
00:02:08.000 She was a COSA woman from Africa and sold to circuses. 1.00
00:02:16.000 And by the time you get to Kim Kardashian in 2014, that is the aesthetic.
00:02:22.000 Now, I decided to write and submit my very own fat studies paper for presentation, and with the help of my brilliant researcher, I wrote an entire essay titled, Embracing Fatness as Self-Care in the Era of Trump.
00:02:35.000 I then submitted the abstract to the conference, and, uh, oh, did I say that I wrote the essay?
00:02:41.000 I meant to say it was submitted by Steve Matheson, a wonderful and totally academically legitimate genderqueer fat pride activist.
00:02:49.000 Alright, turn me into C. Matheson.
00:03:18.000 Creating an identity.
00:03:20.000 But I run.
00:03:21.000 Who p-p-puts a noose on the floor?
00:03:24.000 I know you're used to Lucy, but I run.
00:03:28.000 That's a shock.
00:03:29.000 That's a shock.
00:03:30.000 I know you're used to Lucy, but I run.
00:03:34.000 Now unfortunately due to COVID, the in-person conference was cancelled and the floorboards
00:03:44.000 Luckily, for Ms. 1.00
00:03:45.000 Matheson, there was still a virtual conference.
00:03:48.000 And that's great news, because Z's abstract was actually accepted by the chairwoman, Dr. Kat Posse, a self-described fat studies scholar, and just like that, C. Matheson was scheduled to speak alongside these intellectual titans.
00:04:04.000 So grab your popcorn, quadruple buttered, and let's start the show.
00:04:08.000 Ready?
00:04:11.000 Oops.
00:04:13.000 Hello, I am C. Matheson.
00:04:22.000 I am an activist based out of Austin, Texas, specifically working with the nonbinary and fat community to help increase presence of intersectional and nonbinary people with such events in Austin.
00:04:37.000 As a women's march, march for our lives, most recently the global climate strikes.
00:04:43.000 My preferred pronouns are she and her and my paper embracing fatness as self-care in the era of Donald Trump.
00:04:54.000 Is something I'm thrilled to be presenting and has been accepted here at the New Zealand Fat Studies Conference 2020.
00:05:01.000 Because of our current leader's bigotry, fatness, I will argue, acts as a distancing mechanism from the President.
00:05:09.000 As well as his supporters producing both physical and ideological space that can insulate the individual from intolerant, bigoted, or violent ideology.
00:05:21.000 So first off, I'd like to issue a content warning regarding some fat phobia discussed in this next portion.
00:05:28.000 It's widely acknowledged, of course, that the 2016 election of President Donald Trump was evident of America's Some would argue underlying racist, xenophobic, homophobic, and transphobic attitudes.
00:05:42.000 I would argue that it was always there, not so underlying.
00:05:45.000 It just took 2016 for more people to realize it.
00:05:49.000 If we can say that's a silver lining, for lack of a better word at all, Trump's fat phobia has received relatively little attention in comparison.
00:06:00.000 Trump regularly engages in attacks on fat bodies, individuals. 0.94
00:06:04.000 Trump is known to target women with his attacks, referring to women as having faces that are Quote, fat or ugly. 0.97
00:06:13.000 And Trump's fat phobia even reaches into the United States' international relations. 0.97
00:06:18.000 In his dealing with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, Trump referred to the leader as, quote, shortened fat.
00:06:27.000 Atlantic writer Bess Levin responded to Trump's devaluation of fat bodies, not by calling out President Trump's bigotry, for which no one would have found fault, which is what's very upsetting, but by engaging in further degradation of fatness, noting that President Trump was, quote, definitionally obese and, quote, could share clothes with Jabba the Hutt.
00:06:54.000 When it comes to Trump's fatphobia, often the current progressive left, they resort to fighting fire with fire, using fatphobia in their own critiques and rebuttals.
00:07:07.000 Biden himself, the current Democratic candidate, recently lashed out at a campaign event, calling an attendee fat and challenging him to an exercise program, most notably push-ups.
00:07:19.000 Individuals have noticed an increased need for self-care in the era of Trump.
00:07:24.000 And this context necessitates, in my opinion, a reclaiming of fatness in the era of Trump.
00:07:32.000 And what follows is an ethnography of my attempts at affirming my...
00:07:39.000 of affirming my own body as an act of self-care.
00:07:42.000 Many who do so may not even realize it.
00:07:44.000 really well here. My own body as an act of self-care, affirming it, I will
00:07:48.000 present that as an act of self-care. Many who do so may not even realize it. Take
00:07:54.000 this quotation from the New York Times about self-care. Let me read this for a moment.
00:07:59.000 Or let's say that your health has dipped.
00:08:03.000 In that case, self-care for you might focus on building a workout routine.
00:08:08.000 Now here we see the linking of health with working out is clearly an example of anti-fat bias.
00:08:16.000 The general discussion of self-care often revolves around the concept of space.
00:08:22.000 Individuals express a need for some space.
00:08:27.000 Persons are said to be in a good or bad headspace.
00:08:33.000 The publication Mashable even recently highlighted the efforts of astronauts to practice self-care in outer space.
00:08:40.000 Space is an important element of self-care.
00:08:43.000 And one tool for creating both ideological and physical space is fatness.
00:08:48.000 When I was younger, on several occasions, I was touched or fondled sexually.
00:08:57.000 And on some of these occasions, it was done without my permission.
00:08:59.000 So in college and grad school, however, I Gained a significant amount of weight.
00:09:05.000 At first, I will say I was driven to shame by my friends and family.
00:09:09.000 They would say things like, you need to take better care of yourself.
00:09:13.000 And at this point, to be clear, I did not yet identify as fat.
00:09:17.000 One day, however, all of that changed.
00:09:20.000 I was fueling my vehicle at a nearby gas station, and as I was collecting my receipt, a man reached out and tried to touch me.
00:09:31.000 Okay?
00:09:32.000 Sexually.
00:09:35.000 And I realized, I had a realization that I wasn't worried.
00:09:40.000 Now, why was I not worried?
00:09:42.000 Because I understood that in that moment, because of what at this point I was referring to
00:09:46.000 as my freshman pounds, my newfound fat, this stranger, regardless of his determination, 0.99
00:09:52.000 would have far greater difficulty in grabbing my genitalia without my consent. 0.99
00:09:58.000 Um, I... 0.98
00:09:59.000 And that was where I began to explore the idea that fatness can be self-care.
00:10:05.000 From that point on, I actively chose to identify as fat, and I realized that I realize that once I was already being perceived as fat by others,
00:10:21.000 I protected myself from the baser impulses of toxic masculinity and rape culture.
00:10:28.000 Fatness, embracing a fat identity, ensuring one is always already perceived to be a fat individual, subject, these actions become performative acts of resistance.
00:10:42.000 Especially in this tumultuous time, as deaths from COVID-19 surge over 100,000.
00:10:49.000 Of course, my sympathies, I can't even imagine, go out to anyone affected by this pandemic.
00:10:57.000 But more than ever, space is critical.
00:11:01.000 The importance of space cannot be overstated.
00:11:04.000 Space is one of them, sorry.
00:11:06.000 Space often, we see now, is a matter of life and death.
00:11:15.000 We'll see you next time.
00:11:17.000 Recently I was picturing my favorite local grocer, and there I saw a man, of course you've all seen this person, without a mask.
00:11:24.000 And even though this man decided not to protect others, or myself, by wearing a mask, he had taken the time to put on his Make America Great Again cap.
00:11:39.000 But I wasn't worried.
00:11:40.000 And I knew that largely because of my fat, I was guaranteed at least a certain amount of space.
00:11:48.000 You may believe, wrongly as many people do, that fat is a threat to your life.
00:11:53.000 But I would argue that in many ways, it may save your life.
00:11:57.000 I used to feel guilty about eating certain foods or drinking certain soft drinks.
00:12:02.000 But I don't anymore.
00:12:04.000 Every scoop of Ben & Jerry's, or whatever your preferred food may be, I would like to see it restructured, and it should be seen as an act of resistance, not only against homophobia, but against fatphobia.
00:12:21.000 As the waist size, for example, of my pants increases, in many ways so does my power, and so does yours, and I want you to understand that.
00:12:30.000 I want all people to understand that and believe that.
00:12:32.000 So I would like to summarize this by saying that personal fatness is a visible statement.
00:12:41.000 What do I mean by that?
00:12:43.000 It says, I do not conform.
00:12:46.000 I do not submit.
00:12:48.000 I decide what I do with my body and no one else.
00:12:52.000 Not you, not a medical professional, and certainly not Donald J. Trump.
00:12:58.000 It is a visible statement that says, keep your distance.
00:13:02.000 I am not one of you.
00:13:04.000 I don't have to be one of you.
00:13:06.000 Arbitrary standards of so-called health do not rule me.
00:13:11.000 They do not rule over me.
00:13:13.000 I will not participate in your bullying as a society.
00:13:19.000 I am an individual.
00:13:21.000 I am here.
00:13:22.000 And I am resisting.
00:13:26.000 That is here.
00:13:28.000 And it is not silent.
00:13:32.000 Thank you again, I am C. Matheson, and I very much appreciate you giving me the time to present this, and look forward to answering your questions!
00:13:44.000 Of course, this was all pure lunacy, and I was certain that the jig was up and that it would be curtains for C. Matheson in the world of academia.
00:13:52.000 After all, these ideas aren't grounded in any scientific literature, data, or even reality, and it was clearly a goof.
00:14:00.000 So imagine my surprise when this absolute joke was not only accepted to a prestigious academic conference, but C. Matheson was met with rave review.
00:14:12.000 Dr. Esther Rothblum, PhD, even reached out to C. Matheson after the conference to peer-review a paper on, you guessed it, fat studies.
00:14:22.000 Look, Ma, I'm an authoritative source!
00:14:24.000 The problem isn't just that lunatic ideas like fat pride are accepted and even peer-reviewed at institutions as cleverly designed ruses to boost scholarly book sales, but the problem of education doesn't exist in a bubble.
00:14:38.000 Think about it for a second.
00:14:39.000 What happens to the students?
00:14:41.000 What happens when they grow up and become lawyers, doctors, or God forbid, teachers themselves?
00:14:47.000 Today's ivory tower quackery is tomorrow's gospel truth.
00:14:51.000 Crazy ideas like gender fluidity, endless pronouns, fat pride, they were all created the same way and became ingrained into our authoritative sources.
00:15:01.000 This isn't anything new.
00:15:03.000 The insanity of higher education has been influencing culture for decades.
00:15:07.000 In the late 1980s, you had the birth of queer studies with an academic conference at Yale.
00:15:12.000 The conference grew, and by the 1990s, had hundreds attending and presenting.
00:15:17.000 Fast forward now, 40 years later, we have prestigious academics preaching about the wonders of gender fluidity and actually identifying as two-spirited.
00:15:28.000 It's not just that these ideas are insane.
00:15:32.000 It's that they are unfounded, they're unverified, and most of all, untrue, which makes them seriously harmful.
00:15:40.000 When doctors are being pressured by academics to praise the beautiful bravery of their 350-pound land whale patients, lives will be lost.
00:15:50.000 Life expectancy will be traded to preserve the fragile egos and financial interests of academic elites.
00:15:57.000 But that doesn't matter, right?
00:15:58.000 As long as people like Dr. Cat Pawsay feel free to be themselves in all their super-sized glory.
00:16:05.000 So to all you beautiful woolly mammoths, raise your Twinkie! 0.96
00:16:08.000 The experts are on your side. 0.99
00:16:12.000 Oh my god, Becky, look at her butt. 1.00
00:16:15.000 What I find fascinating and think is represented in this quote right here is the collapsing of fatness and blackness. 1.00
00:16:26.000 When fatness merges with blackness, it stops trying to Hey, did you like this video?
00:16:45.000 Don't care! 0.93
00:16:46.000 Hit the notification bell, share it with someone, because, you know what?
00:16:50.000 Look.
00:16:53.000 Some people add value to society, and then there's you.
00:16:57.000 And you can start by at least sharing this.
00:16:59.000 You don't have to create the value, but you can spread the value.
00:17:03.000 And look at you.
00:17:05.000 Crowdershop.com, right?
00:17:06.000 Dave, look at this person. 1.00
00:17:08.000 Ah, he's garbage. 1.00
00:17:09.000 Look at you and now look at us. 1.00
00:17:10.000 Look at us. 1.00
00:17:12.000 Z is garbage, by the way. 0.99
00:17:14.000 Because that's the most offensive thing we've said. 1.00