002： NDS Chronicles - The Spice Demon
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1 hour and 25 minutes
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187.9744
Summary
In this episode of NDSN Chronicles, we read your paranormal testimony! We're back with part two of our serialized reading of your submitted stories! Join us as we delve into the mind of the Father of Disinformation, Thomas the Paranoid American.
Transcript
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And no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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Only some are aware that the government really...
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I wasn't a spiritual or religious person at the time.
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Honestly, we got to whip up intro music for it.
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But I guess, guys, this is the second installment of our...
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This is the second installment, ladies and gentlemen, of NDS Chronicles.
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I should write something down and maybe say it in the future.
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I hope you guys liked the previous episode of NDS Chronicles.
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Although, really, the only people who would have seen it would have been the Patreon subscribers,
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We've doubled down on something that we're not sure is that good.
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I will say, it's of value to us because there was a time where you said to me, we need
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to be tapping heavier into the spiritual testimonial side of things.
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There is something really interesting to gleam from them.
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And so hopefully, maybe we figure something else out.
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We're talking to experts in their respective field.
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We want you to just send us a thing so we don't have to make eye contact with you.
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Actually, speaking of the expert stuff, before we get into it, because look at how rude.
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That's Top Lops of the Father of Disinformation.
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I was talking with Thomas, the paranoid American.
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And I was asking him about if he knew about any Nephilim shit that was in Moana.
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Anyway, so I was asking him about Moana and if there was any Nephilim shit in Moana.
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He's only up to 2006, apparently, in his Disney deep dives.
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So I think that might be an interesting episode to possibly do or look into if we can get him
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I just came out of the theater and I will tell you, no spoilers, right?
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Because some of you guys have kids out there and you're going to go see the film.
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It is not as good as the first one, but it's not gay.
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And there wasn't an overarching theme of how everything is just very gay.
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That being said, the soundtrack, Moana number one just crushed it.
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The soundtrack wasn't as good as in the second one.
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And the story just wasn't as good, but it was still a good film.
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They didn't hire Lin-Manuel Miranda, which is a, I don't know, a curiosity.
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Oh, the freaking one with the Spanish people, Madrigal or whatever it is.
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I just had an inclination to do a plug for Top Lobster, but I'm like, this is just bad.
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And look, I just want to say, obviously, and maybe we should visit this with Thomas the
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There's a tremendous amount of Nephilim shit in it because Maui's a demigod.
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So inherently, he's a Nephilim, you know, full stop.
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It's very pagan, you know, but it's very, it's a good film.
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So she's like, and she's the same person, but she's got these dualities.
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Yeah, there's a lot of, like, these themes that they're just feeding to our kids.
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Instead of letting the Nephilim indoctrinate your children, let us indoctrinate your children.
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I know there's a t-shirt version, but in the end of November, what are you doing if you're
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not getting the sweater, the crew neck version?
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You've been killing it lately with the designs, dude.
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So these, you don't see them on these designs, but on the arms, it has the TopLobst logo
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and, like, sort of how it has the dangerous retard right there.
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So TopLobst on one side and then the Raven, that one that I made you, that design.
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I love the idea, too, that it says dangerous retards on the back as if that's like a line
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Today, we have a submission from one of the supporters of the show.
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So if it's all the same to you, I'm going to go ahead.
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It's very much like how two dudes would teach a class of elementary school children.
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This is really just like, yeah, this is like daycare.
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Michael says, I wasn't a spiritual or religious person at the time, but I was part of the
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church a lot of my life from services when I was little to Sunday school to graduating
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But I will say when you submit this stuff, guys, punctuation, please.
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This whole thing is just a one one long run on sentence.
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This is telling me where a lot of commas is periods where it don't belong.
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To Sunday school to graduate graduating catechism.
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I'm not sure what that is to getting baptized when I was about 16.
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All of this to make my mom and grandma happy mostly.
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So the spice started off pretty soft like a weed buzz.
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The only thing was it was it wouldn't last long.
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It says the buzz never lasting more than 10 minutes.
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When I was younger there was a sort of what would you call it.
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It was almost like potpourri and they were giving it to people as an alternative to weed.
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Is that like that K2 shit that they were doing too.
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Heffalump says spice is the legal smoke shop weed.
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And dude, I'm I've smoked a little bit of it before because I was on probation and it was a roller coaster.
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So the spice got progressively stronger and the buzz never lasting more than like 10 minutes.
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There was like three different kinds you can get gold diamond and max dude if they're if they're ranking this thing that you smoke on a tier of gold diamond and max probably don't smoke that.
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Well, for a while we were able to get it at the Jersey Shore.
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So if you went to like the boardwalk in Seaside, New Jersey, you'd be able to go in and get spice, but you also could buy salvia from those same head shops on the boardwalk.
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So maybe this is what he's talking about or where he gotten it.
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OK, the story I'm about to tell you is just one of countless experiences with this drug that my friend group got addicted to nice a bunch of just a bunch of teenagers addicted to potpourri.
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You're leading your friends talking to demons with this drug that I've never heard of.
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OK, honestly, this guy probably grew up in Seagate.
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They were like a there's a bunch of dudes in Seagate that are really.
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Well, this is clearly somebody who is in our neck of the woods.
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Somebody says it gives heart attack symptoms if too much is smoke.
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It was like heart palpitations, you know, which is not fun if you're just trying to get high and relax.
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If you don't smoke as much spice, I guess spice diminishes your punctuation.
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For the least of us a little over a year ago, a little over a year for most of us.
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It was a year or more of our lives gone from this.
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Well, I mean, it's like they can't or how they're revisiting it as adults.
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We got some of this stuff from a lady that worked at a place called Crescent Moon.
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Looking back, this lady looked like a witch and sounded like one too.
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I see you making, making adjustments on the paragraph.
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And we used to chill and smoke in a graveyard in the village.
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I got to say that there was something about like when you were a teenager, especially me,
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So when you have like teenage white kids who are smoking potpourri from the local gas station,
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for some reason, I'm not going to lie to you, dude.
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It's like white people in the realm of the dead are like magnetic to one another.
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And I just, as a teenager, you're like, what's a better place to smoke than on the headstones
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This is actually, man, this, this show fucks because this is, this gets me excited.
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We all take a hit and sit back and everything gets quiet, like eerily quiet.
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We all look at each other like, this is crazy, bro.
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So right there is a sign of a supernatural stuff happening, right?
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When, when you're like, yeah, you'll, I, I, I actually, that happened to me out here
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one time, but I just kind of like, I put the chickens in and I'm walking back and I feel
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I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a logistical thing, right?
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Bron James says there's no heat in the graveyard.
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Police don't really care about what the dead are up to.
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I think that probably was the point, but also dude, we were very edgy.
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And smoking, uh, with the dead was just, it was very, yeah.
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We'll, we'll, uh, Oh, you were saying how you were in your backyard once and it got eerily
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I, I literally, I did one of those things where I got out of there and I'm, I'm walking
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I'm like, I'm not looking back because I don't know.
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And I was like, if I look back, I'm going to have to deal with whatever this is because
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Like my butt cheeks were tight and I was like, yo bro, I got to tell you, that's how
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you know you're fucking, you're a real dude is because that gets the best of us.
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You ever been walking up like a set of creepy ass stairs and next thing you know,
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you're like lightly jogging and then sprinting.
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Like you, you, you resisted that the idea that you just clenched butt cheeks and kept walking
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I clenched my butt cheeks and I'm like, if this thing is coming after me, it's coming
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I, it's, it's, it's a weird psychological thing.
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Cause I'm like, if I'm going to get murdered by dog, man, like, I'm not going to give,
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I'm telling you though, that's a real, a real, I don't know if it, is it a real one
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or, or, or one who's caught by the spell who turns around and stares.
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Cause it's like that overwhelming feeling that something's there, but you don't really
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Um, I know in those times where I've been like coming up from a creepy basement, trying
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to get upstairs, uh, and you want to slap that light switch as soon as you get to the
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Um, I don't think I've ever looked back and it's so crazy because the feeling will manifest
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itself in such a way that it's like something is going to grab my heel any second.
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I've got this premonition that I'm, I'm out there in the back and I turn around, you
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And for some reason I turn around and when I turn around, I see a figure with the eyes,
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And it's like, if you turn around, it's going to give chase and run.
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Maybe it's like we understand inherently, like internally, we don't know it on paper,
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You cannot look, um, or else, you know, I don't know.
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It's the same thing as like when you're in bed and you're scared and you put, when you're
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in bed and you pull the blanket over your head and somehow that protects you.
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It's in a super state of killing you, but also standing still.
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And it's you looking at it that determines whether or not it kills you or it stands still.
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If you would have looked, then you might be dead.
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We were all at the point of tripping off, off this first, off this stuff first hit.
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The look he had in his eyes, man, our buddy was gone.
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Something took his consciousness and replaced it with like someone who was like him, but
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He remembered our names, but it was like our faces were unrecognizable to him.
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We started to freak out trying to bring him back with this like giant black.
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We started to freak out trying to bring him back with this like giant black cloud aura
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I wonder how old he was when this is happening.
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You know, because I've heard like salvia, like there's that story about Ari Shafir smoking
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salvia and having an entire life for like several months under the ocean where he had
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And when he came to, it was so significant, even though in our reality, this trip lasted
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He experienced a time dilation that was months.
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And it was so impactful that he felt a sense of longing for this family when he came back
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So when you have a guy, right, that he's saying was replaced, something took his consciousness
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But when he's saying like something took his buddy's consciousness and replaced it with
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someone who was like him, but wasn't him, to the extent that this dude didn't know who
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his friends were, recognized their names, but could not remember their faces.
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I mean, that must've been, I've been with friends that got so high, they look different.
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We were like 16 years old, but he looked different.
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I mean, certain drugs have a way of doing something wild to you.
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It's a giant, so there's a giant black cloud aura that was surrounding them as they were,
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Like are they, I wonder if they're all experiencing this, the same things together, like an ayahuasca
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But look at my, look at my, my camera froze and look how unsettled I look.
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So we started to freak out, trying to bring them back.
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At that point, my buddy started to come back from wherever he was and that black cloud
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That was like the very beginnings of those horrible times in my life.
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So that's the very beginning and he continues to do the same thing.
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So it really felt to me like we opened up something to somewhere we shouldn't have.
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And that black cloud then followed me for the next 10 years of my life.
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Uh, the experience I would like to talk about starts in 2020 and ends in 2021.
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So you might understand a little bit of my life.
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Maybe relating to things you might have experienced that I haven't.
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I have great parents and I had a lot of opportunities.
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I squandered them because I was a kid and still am at 32.
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Uh, my life won't be for not though, because I have something to share and it's good news.
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Uh, I didn't really come out of my shell socially until about 2010.
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He opened me up to learning how to act charismatic.
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It was literally like one unhinged friend that taught me how to be a maniac.
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Um, without his help, I wouldn't be talking to you today.
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So the store to, to continue the story after going through some seriously horrible experiences
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I w I really want to know because there's such a variation in spice.
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It's so crazy that this is what this is about that.
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That's so because that was such a common thing when I was a kid.
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That was like, I had so many friends that messed up and we're on probation.
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That was the thing that you did to get, you know, to be able to still inhale burnt plant
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matter, but not get popped for, uh, pissing hot and your drug test.
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Um, after that, I started doing a decent amount of drugs.
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It was like life was just dull without altering my mind.
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So I went through a bunch of acid at this point.
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Um, as why I felt subconscious, self-conscious subconsciously.
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Um, in doing so, I had about a million ego deaths.
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I was shredding the misconceptions I had about myself and the world at the same time, peeling
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I needed to understand more and more to a point of it consuming me.
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For some reason though, during all this time, I never thought about God.
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I was agnostic as you, oh, I was as, I was agnostic as you can get leaning atheist hard.
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Um, only now looking back on it, I can, uh, see it for what it was.
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And we're going to have to touch back, uh, with Devin Hill to see what else he's got.
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Uh, seems like that was just kind of the beginning of his strange experiences.
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Um, you know what I do is like, I don't read things cause I want to read them live on air.
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And so, uh, that was a little surprise to me and you both.
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But you did say that in our email, we had another one, right?
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I don't, I don't even know if we're supposed to say the names of these people as well.
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I would, if they haven't given us permission, let's omit their names, uh, just to be safe.
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Um, but yeah, I mean, I, I don't know if what he's going through is, is because of the spice
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or if it's because you were dabbling with some sort of, uh, consciousness altering substance
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Like, is it indicative of the spice or, or is it like altered states of consciousness
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I wish he would have sent more details of what's happening with him now.
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Cause I feel like that's kind of a, the story was getting interesting and like, we're able
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to like, uh, kind of dissect a little bit what's going on.
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Uh, I'm not going to say, actually he says his name, so it's fine.
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Uh, I have been listening to the show since early this past summer, around the time you
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My name is Joe and I have an incredible story to share with you.
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I will do my best to give you the condensed version here.
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And if you want to get into it further, I would be more than happy to expand a quick
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background baptized and bought up in the Catholic church, went agnostic after confirmation
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Confirmation is, um, is that where they give you a new name?
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Like you, you, you eat the cracker, you drink the wine, they give you an additional name.
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Um, when I was a kid, I don't remember the name that I got, but I do remember eating
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a cracker and drinking the wine, uh, being very embarrassed because I didn't know you
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were supposed to just let him pour the wine in your mouth.
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I tried to take the cup from him because I had never drank from a cup that I wasn't holding
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So this is a confirmation is a form of baptism.
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Um, so he goes on to say my first experience with the paranormal was around age 11.
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I heard a distinct sound of footsteps going up and down my stairs of my house in the
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Uh, woke my younger brother up so he could hear it too.
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So he's hearing this noise for uninterrupted for an hour.
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And the second he wakes up his brother, uh, the noise stops.
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I grew up in a creepy house like that, where it was constant to the extent where my
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And she would say, yeah, that's grandma walking around upstairs, which is a totally
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bizarre thing to say to children, uh, who know that their grandma's dead.
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I was smoking salvia, drinking often and to excess.
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Uh, that I got from a gas station in, in Dell in Florida one time and feeling like a demon
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That is exactly what happened to homeboys buddy in the graveyard.
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So he says about that time, no surprise, I started experiencing sleep paralysis fairly
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consistently as often as once a month to once every few months.
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Overwhelming dread, electrical current in my body shadow figure with go ahead.
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So like, because it's interesting that these two relate because I assume they don't.
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I assume they don't, that's unbelievable that they relate.
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I mean, I haven't heard of spice since I was a teenager and we're reading two back to
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Def not apple eater says the real devil's lettuce.
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He, he, he, this guy does mention like when he smokes it, he felt like a demon was on
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Well, he said when he, he smoked it, him and his buddy smoked it and they're in a graveyard
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and he said suddenly his buddy started behaving as if he was somebody else.
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And, and he felt, and he said there was a black mist, a black aura.
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Something took his consciousness and replaced it.
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That's pretty much a textbook definition of what a demon is after and what they're, what
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And then he says, we started to freak out trying to bring him back, uh, with this giant
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This is the previous story from Devin, man, that is unbelievable.
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And then he says, by the way, that that black cloud then followed him for the next 10 years
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And there's also a timeframe that he mentions here too, right?
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This is, I thought the show was going to shit cause I was like, Devin left us hanging,
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Uh, Heffalump says a decade ago, my ex was completely addicted to spice for a while.
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He is, he's also a Luciferian and definitely had episodes where he was not there.
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Um, deaf, not apple eaters says, okay, my one demon experience might have been at a time
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When I smoked it, it felt like there were two thoughts in my head, mine and something
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Hey, by the way, deaf, not exercise also at that timeframe.
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It was called K2, uh, in some instances, uh, while you look that up, I'm going to continue
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So 2011, like he says, he was smoking salvia, drinking to excess.
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And I also distinctly remember smoking spice that I got from a gas station in Dell in Florida
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one time and feeling like a demon entered my body.
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I started to explain experiencing sleep paralysis fairly consistently as often as once a month
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A shadow figure with ominous vibe and intent to harm levitates me above my bed.
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I would also wake up the second before the worst would happen.
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I firmly believe now that it was only because I was baptized that I had some level of protection.
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Is this the shit that these guys were smoking that they had a, that they were like eating?
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This is what they were smoking where they would do like a K2 party and everybody would
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be like, like zombied out in the morning, just like standing around and like leaned
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And then when we said K2, he's like, okay, I remember that.
00:35:41.000
Def Knot Apple Eater says was early 2010s came in little Mylar bags like the rhino dick pills.
00:35:51.000
That's what they were marketing as was synthetic weed.
00:35:53.000
Synthetic cannabinoids, spice K2, legal highs, intoxication.
00:35:59.000
I think it's around still in some form or fashion.
00:36:01.000
I think it's, I think it's like a, now we're using Delta nine, right?
00:36:09.000
But what I, I find most fascinating about this was it was marketed as like an alternative
00:36:15.000
to a drug that was like, I'm not going to say weed is harmless, but in comparison to
00:36:25.000
I, when I opened the bag, I remember opening the bag because yeah, they would come in.
00:36:40.000
And when you looked inside of it, it looked just like, you know, potpourri, you put it
00:36:47.000
And that was like supposed to make your house smell good.
00:37:01.000
That's where I didn't make that name up for no reason.
00:37:10.000
I remember even as a teenager having discernment enough to go like, no, that shit is way worse
00:37:26.000
I, uh, we're starting at, as the years went on.
00:37:30.000
So he firmly believed that because he was baptized, he was good.
00:37:34.000
As the years went on, I began to recognize when it was happening and would repeat in my
00:37:45.000
It was like, I feel like mentally I'm like that.
00:37:47.000
This, if the dog man is, this is Top Lops' dog, man.
00:37:49.000
If he's, uh, if I think he's not real, he can't kill me.
00:37:54.000
So this guy's about to prove me wrong and debunk my whole shit.
00:37:56.000
Uh, the demon came to me in the form of my friend slash coworker, but clearly possessed.
00:38:02.000
For whatever reason, this difference prompted me to get out of bed and break its neck.
00:38:07.000
Dude, you ever just been prompted to just break a neck, dude?
00:38:14.000
That was exactly the, uh, response that I felt was the most appropriate in the moment.
00:38:19.000
This is right up there as crazy, like just as crazy as David, just giving body shots
00:38:28.000
Um, I've, I've had so many dreams by the way, where like something comes at me and like, God
00:38:33.000
has blessed me in my dreams where like, I never have any problems.
00:38:38.000
Everything gets completely destroyed in my dreams.
00:38:41.000
Although I do wonder if that actually went away.
00:38:45.000
And then what's switched is now I'm no longer like, I got to admit when I was feeding that
00:38:49.000
wooden witch uppercuts, she wasn't, she was just eating them until I, uh, proclaim the
00:38:54.000
So maybe, maybe, uh, the, somehow the landscape has changed for me, the boxing gloves of Christ
00:39:16.000
I was looking at the email and I was like, Oh shit.
00:39:22.000
I, whenever I go to another tab, I, I guess my screen just freezes.
00:39:33.000
Um, so as the years went on, ba, ba, ba, so he was clearly possessed.
00:39:41.000
It came back about a week later in its usual form.
00:39:57.000
It returned once more about two years later, it got to my bedside.
00:40:01.000
I reached up, grabbed its arm and ripped it off its body.
00:40:07.000
I'm confident that had I not lost my faith, that had I not lost my faith, I would have resolved
00:40:13.000
it the first time by invoking the name of Christ.
00:40:15.000
But I think the important takeaway here is that God still has your back, even if you don't
00:40:20.000
Additionally, we have all the power within us to fight off demons.
00:40:25.000
Once you recognize them, you realize how weak they actually are.
00:40:45.000
That's in the Bible where, you know, Satan finally falls and the people look at him.
00:40:52.000
That's why they have to operate in the shadows because they're not even as formidable as
00:40:57.000
like, you know, a dog has enough physical capabilities in this reality to rip a bunch
00:41:06.000
So there, but these things have virtually no recourse in our physical reality.
00:41:16.000
They have to either hope you're on some sort of drug that makes the connection between
00:41:19.000
you and them a lot easier, or they have to subvert you and whisper in your ear over
00:41:23.000
a very long period of time and hope that you don't get your wits about you and call on the
00:41:27.000
name of Christ because then the whole thing is over in an instant.
00:41:30.000
So they have to an enemy that operates exclusively in the shadows that tells you a lot about the
00:41:41.000
They're trying to make you watch the porn, but you've got to watch it.
00:41:48.000
Yes, you would have thought that you would have thought that experience would be enough
00:41:54.000
But it wasn't until this past summer, five years later, where I had a string of insane
00:41:59.000
synchronicities take place over the course of a very short time that returned me to God.
00:42:04.000
It was like a spiritual enema was given to me directly by his by his hand.
00:42:12.000
I mean, maybe that's how it was for him, you know, spiritual enema.
00:42:16.000
OK, well, I would be happy to share that story as well if you'd like.
00:42:19.000
But for now, I don't want to give you three more paragraphs.
00:42:22.000
All right, people, if you are writing into us, write as much as possible, write as much
00:42:31.000
But give us all the details, because now I'm thinking if we have to go back and like
00:42:36.000
recap this guy's story, we're going to have to reread this story again anyway.
00:42:41.000
We'll just tell them, watch episode two of NDS Chronicles.
00:42:45.000
But yeah, yeah, guys, if you're going to write in, don't be afraid to make it long winded,
00:42:49.000
because Top and I are very good at reading and we read very fast.
00:42:54.000
And so, you know, we we really plow through these things.
00:42:58.000
If you want to submit, don't be afraid of being long winded.
00:43:01.000
Yeah, I guess what we're learning here is that our listener base does a lot of K2.
00:43:08.000
So maybe that's the people, the demographic that we're reaching is K2 fiends.
00:43:18.000
There's a couple more sentences there on the end of this.
00:43:22.000
He just said, I'd be happy to share that story as well, if you'd like.
00:43:25.000
But for now, I don't want to give you paragraphs.
00:43:31.000
It's extremely important that people be aware and spread the word of God, as well as to remain vigilant of entities.
00:43:48.000
All right, well, you're like, you're kind of famous amongst.
00:44:01.000
Now you have seven Patreon people that know what your name is.
00:44:04.000
So, I mean, this guy definitely, when he's describing the, let's go back to it and see if I can find it.
00:44:10.000
Um, when he is describing sleep paralysis and he says, uh, right here, where did it go?
00:44:22.000
Overwhelming dread, which anybody who's ever had sleep paralysis, there is an experiencing of like a sense of dread for your mortal soul that like nothing else provokes.
00:44:32.000
I've talked about it before where it's like I have been in situations that are scary, everybody has, and nothing has ever created the sensation of dread of my impending doom than sleep paralysis does.
00:44:45.000
And then he goes on to describe electrical current in your body, which is also, we've talked about that endlessly, right?
00:44:50.000
It's like this vibration or this electric buzzing sensation that is common in all these experiences.
00:44:58.000
It also seems to aid in the paralysis and the fear.
00:45:04.000
The, the current, you know, the electrical vibration creates the overwhelming fear of dread or feeling of dread.
00:45:11.000
And it just kind of feeds right back into each other over and over again.
00:45:14.000
So this is definitely a guy who, um, who's had some intimate experiences with sleep paralysis that, that is, uh, for certain.
00:45:22.000
And then, um, yeah, man, I mean, it's just so strange that, that this would be about spice.
00:45:31.000
I just can't even, uh, get my head around that, that we just read two different stories that are about spice.
00:45:43.000
We got Emily Allen says, I can't imagine sitting down and writing all of it.
00:45:50.000
Um, isn't there a technique shrinks due to bring out trauma?
00:45:58.000
And like we said, guys, don't be afraid to get into the minutia and really share the details with it because we are, how do you put this?
00:46:10.000
Um, you know, because of the content that we absorb.
00:46:18.000
I mean, in this particular case, it was beautiful because right on its face, 2011, a bunch of people are doing spice and getting, uh, possessed by demons.
00:46:26.000
I just wonder, I wonder if the second parts of this story were also, uh, going to mirror each other.
00:46:34.000
Because then you have like a clear, all right, here's the doorway that both of you guys opened and here's the experience that both of you guys had, which is some sort of sleep paralysis kind of thing.
00:46:47.000
Well, it starts with this event of smoking spice and then it bleeds into like something tells me that our buddy here, Devin Hill, if he had, uh, he said, it really felt to me like we opened up something to somewhere we shouldn't have.
00:47:04.000
And that black cloud then followed me for the next 10 years of my life.
00:47:09.000
Um, I would be very interested in, in asking Devin what those 10 years look like, what was going on.
00:47:15.000
I mean, you know, if you are convinced that a black cloud is following you, uh, well, there's gotta be some indicators that make you go up.
00:47:24.000
And I, I bet you it's sleep paralysis and things of that nature.
00:47:28.000
Um, which, you know, in this, by the way, when it comes to the whole sleep paralysis thing, it really is a little bit of a bummer because it's become such a common element to people's, um, sort of experiences with negative entities that you almost like dismiss it.
00:47:47.000
And what's really terrible about that is for the experiencer, it is the worst shit ever.
00:47:54.000
But when you go and you try to tell it, it's like, Oh, another sleep paralysis story.
00:47:59.000
Nancy says during sleep paralysis is when you want to try to astral project.
00:48:04.000
And I'm like, maybe you dude, uh, the vibration is your astral body detaching from your worldly body.
00:48:13.000
I mean, I don't know if I'd want to do that because it would feel like.
00:48:16.000
Uh, if something is there over your body, what happened there?
00:48:33.000
I was, I was saying, um, when you, when you're having sleep paralysis and you feel like something is sitting on your chest, that's not the time where I'd want to like leave my mortal body.
00:48:45.000
Leave it open to something else that could just possibly come in.
00:48:52.000
I feel like you can get a little switcheroo there.
00:48:55.000
Well, yeah, it's, that's the idea of like, if you leave your, you know, physical body and it's now a husk, um, you know, clearly there's a lot of precedent for things wanting to enter it.
00:49:06.000
You know, uh, greasy demons, questionable uncles.
00:49:16.000
I don't think they can take it like, but they can take it for a ride.
00:49:21.000
Like, it's like they can't purchase the vehicle, but they can take it around the block a few times and that doesn't feel good.
00:49:28.000
It doesn't seem like a good idea, but, uh, I think what, I think what Nancy's saying is that the conditions are correct because like that would be the same condition.
00:49:36.000
That's, that's the condition that they're creating to kind of put you in that spot.
00:49:40.000
But since you don't know how to move around in it, you get stuck.
00:49:46.000
It's like, it's funny cause it kind of comes back to aliens.
00:49:50.000
Whenever you're, uh, on the table and you can't move cause you're just like vibrated out, whatever they're doing to you and they're putting stuff in your butt.
00:50:00.000
But, uh, you know, we're, we're right around the corner from December 3rd, which we really, yeah.
00:50:08.000
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So for the audience, it's like the New York Post comes out.
00:51:13.000
I said the New York Times, I meant the New York Post.
00:51:15.000
They come out, they make an article about several lights above the Capitol building.
00:51:26.000
I read the article, so it called them experts, which is hilarious.
00:51:30.000
And it was basically saying that there were street lights in front of the Capitol building.
00:51:37.000
And those street lights were reflecting off the camera lens and created a mirror image in the sky.
00:51:42.000
Which actually, to their credit, did seem to be the case.
00:51:47.000
They were in the exact same formation as the street lights.
00:51:50.000
And the photo that was being posted online actually cropped those street lights out.
00:51:54.000
The problem is that there is video footage from an entirely different perspective.
00:52:00.000
What looks to be almost a mile away of these four lights in the sky in a completely different formation.
00:52:12.000
You go, well, it couldn't possibly be the reflection of street lamps.
00:52:18.000
And they're not even in the same pattern that they were in the original photo.
00:52:23.000
And so what's upsetting me is that right now, that post has a community note on it.
00:52:29.000
And, you know, there's a connotation to the community note that essentially just says, dismiss this.
00:52:34.000
That's the, you know, the implications of the community note is, dismiss this.
00:52:42.000
But I look at that and I'm like, this is so ridiculous.
00:52:47.000
It's so easily disproved by this clear as day second angle in the same article, by the way, in the same New York Post article.
00:53:01.000
This, I posted this yesterday and I said five days away or something like that.
00:53:10.000
I'm just reading somebody else's research and making you guys wonder.
00:53:17.000
And then I looked online and I'm like, there goes David.
00:53:27.000
But I found an old, I was looking for this one.
00:53:40.000
Yeah, that's a, well, let's just call her Dr. Dingbat so we stop doxing people.
00:53:48.000
And I know she's got all kinds of weird stories.
00:53:56.000
I'm going to send it to your Twitter right now.
00:54:16.000
It's been made clear to me from the different group chats that we have, Dangerous Retards,
00:54:23.000
This show resonates with a lot of people that have paranormal experiences in their own life.
00:54:29.000
And a lot of them have like, I mean, we were talking about Patrick Shouts the other day.
00:54:35.000
This guy is somebody who has a tremendous amount of experiences.
00:54:38.000
I would say that Dr. Dingbat is in that same school.
00:54:48.000
So, well, she has it here, but it's a member slash listener story.
00:55:10.000
Did you highlight it and turn it all black so that it was somehow better on your eyes?
00:55:17.000
So, for the podcast of listeners submitted stories, I could limit it to kind of one topic
00:55:22.000
and not make it as sprawling about all my things that I feel are spiritual warfare related
00:55:32.000
I think these would be some more bullet points about a specific thing.
00:55:39.000
I grew up in an every Sunday Catholic mass family.
00:55:54.000
Lyme plays a big part, but who knows what else.
00:56:01.000
Actually, I do remember this because I've spoken with her about my wife who had-
00:56:07.000
She had Lyme disease, so she kind of, we were just sharing our stories a little bit
00:56:13.000
This is old, this email, but we never really got around to doing the show, but here we are.
00:56:18.000
So, I eventually became an alcoholic after much torment for a few years.
00:56:23.000
I lived a very healthy lifestyle prior, but after some doctors dismissing me and with other
00:56:28.000
treatments seeming to make me worse, I couldn't handle it for year after year.
00:56:33.000
And when I drank, I could smile or laugh a little sometimes.
00:56:36.000
This probably allowed entities to get a stronghold on me.
00:56:42.000
At some points, I started experiencing sleep paralysis again and intense torture nightmares.
00:56:48.000
If she says she did spice, I'm like, I'm going to turn the fucking show off.
00:56:56.000
So, all became more frequent and more awful over time.
00:57:00.000
While still being a believer in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, I just kind of didn't care
00:57:05.000
as much about going to church, partly because I was no longer forced to go.
00:57:11.000
But also, I just felt too sick and awful to even go.
00:57:31.000
And I don't know if we want to use specific language.
00:57:39.000
If you skim ahead, if you look down, it says X content warning.
00:57:54.000
She submitted member listener story for the show.
00:58:04.000
And maybe even the audience, if you're listening to this, there is a sexual nature to these things.
00:58:10.000
And if you want to forego that, then I might end the episode here if you're a listener.
00:58:17.000
But if you are not squeamish, we're going to continue going on.
00:58:20.000
And like, you know, the nature of it is this is somebody's experience, guys.
00:58:23.000
This is not something that somebody wanted to happen.
00:58:33.000
So, my parents, my father in particular, being a DVM, I think that's like a vet veterinarian
00:58:38.000
and understanding medicine, became hyper focused and obsessed.
00:58:45.000
And obsessed with finding answers for my health problems.
00:58:49.000
He'd listen to health podcasts all night and look at forums and medical journals all day.
00:58:55.000
So, this is all the way back to when she was a teenager.
00:58:57.000
She said she's been sick, chronically ill for 15 years.
00:59:00.000
So, you could imagine she's still under her father's roof, you know, way back when.
00:59:05.000
His oldest sister, my aunt, kind of started paying more attention to me, trying to talk to me, stay in touch.
00:59:11.000
The more she seemed to be concerned, she seemed more concerned about my spiritual health.
00:59:15.000
But, I'm like, yeah, yeah, Jesus is great, but I have medical problems you don't understand.
00:59:20.000
Somewhere in here, I was having a rape and or sex dream.
00:59:25.000
I could literally feel physically like someone was having sex with me.
00:59:29.000
I dismissed it as my brain, inflammation, psychic issues, health issues.
00:59:34.000
As weird as it was, so assuming it was just a health brain phenomena, I, in the dream, didn't think how I, I, in the dreams, didn't think that how I responded in my nightmare experiences would have consequences.
00:59:56.000
I mean, this is, so if David gave us a vulgarity content warning on this show, I'm like, I'm hesitant about what we're about to read.
01:00:05.000
You know, I'm, I'm one of those people that when it comes to, I could watch people die.
01:00:09.000
But when it comes to listening to like, sex stuff, I'm like, you know, I have a, it's like a ugh.
01:00:21.000
Okay, so, I would have to think of a more tactful way of saying this on a podcast.
01:00:26.000
But to put it bluntly, pardon my lewdness, the entity I have come to believe it was slash is, would, it would come when raping me.
01:00:37.000
I would come, sorry, I would come when it was raping me.
01:00:41.000
And then try to adapt somehow to make myself feel better about the awful situation.
01:00:50.000
I would eventually just be like, oh, you're going to just come, you're just going to come fuck me.
01:01:11.000
He started showing me more favor and scaring me less.
01:01:17.000
And his, his most common form was a tall, jacked old guy.
01:01:26.000
But I remember noticing that there was something weird about his teeth.
01:01:30.000
It seemed like he would say things like I was his favorite.
01:01:39.000
Um, he came to set the captives free because, um, the main character, she, she describes
01:01:46.000
basically like Satan visiting her and that he was like a whole, you know, a handsome dude.
01:02:04.000
Um, I realized these were spiritual demonic attacks and I was consenting to this entity.
01:02:08.000
I mean, I'm trying to be sensitive here, but yeah, no shit, dude.
01:02:17.000
Like the things that I would do or decide in my dreams had bearing on, you know, had,
01:02:23.000
And at this time, you know, when her aunt is coming to her trying to more or less preach,
01:02:29.000
uh, and talk about Jesus Christ, she's dismissing her because she's looking at this as like a,
01:02:34.000
a medical issue, you know, a nuts and bolts rooted in reality, sort of an issue.
01:02:39.000
Um, and so, yeah, she's not at all of the, of the school of thought that, that engaging
01:02:46.000
And I kind of do have empathy for this idea, right?
01:02:54.000
You probably, if this is going on for a while, you try a bunch of different approaches.
01:02:59.000
Like if I had that drop on this, on this show, like, you know, when in Rome, I get it.
01:03:06.000
If it's like, like, all right, this is another fucking dream again.
01:03:09.000
But yeah, not understanding that that's actually happening.
01:03:15.000
And you are, you're, you're doing it out of frustration, but you're frustratingly giving him consent.
01:03:23.000
And then, you know, I might, might even get a little bit of pleasure on the way there.
01:03:30.000
Um, so upon, upon gaining awareness that she's been giving this entity consent, I started fighting
01:03:55.000
Uh, Asmodeus is a demon King in Jewish legend and folklore.
01:04:02.000
Uh, the book of Tobit, Asmodeus is the King of demons who falls in love with Sarah and
01:04:08.000
kills her seven husbands on their wedding nights.
01:04:11.000
Uh, Tobias marry Sarah after the angel Raphael instructs him how to overcome Asmodeus.
01:04:16.000
And then we have in the Talmud, Asmodeus is the King of Shedim, uh, and is captured by
01:04:22.000
Solomon who forces him to work as a slave while building the first temple of Jerusalem.
01:04:27.000
Oh, he's in the book of Enoch while Asmodeus is not explicitly mentioned similar demons
01:04:34.000
Cause that we, we talk about how they constantly rename themselves, rebrand.
01:04:40.000
So this, yeah, this demon specifically is associated with lust and vice.
01:04:47.000
In the Testament of Solomon, Asmodeus tells King Solomon that his purpose is to plot against
01:04:52.000
newlyweds, specifically plot against newlyweds.
01:04:56.000
Separating them with calamities and wasting the beauty of virgins.
01:04:59.000
Uh, in Persian religion, Asmodeus is known as Eshma, probably for the best.
01:05:05.000
I can't pronounce that last name is the embodiment of carnal lust and violent wrath.
01:05:13.000
I believe Asmodeus is the Prince of Pleasures, the Lord of lust and luxury, the patron of
01:05:19.000
And then apparently he's even a character in Dungeons and Dragons.
01:05:24.000
In Islamic tradition, Asmodeus is known as Azazel.
01:05:34.000
And in Dungeons and Dragons says Asmodeus is the master of Betator of Fortress and Nessus.
01:05:47.000
He is similar to the demon Abaddon, the destroyer.
01:05:51.000
And then the final one, it says, um, Asmodeus is not usually found in the Bible because the
01:05:56.000
book of Tobit, where he is first described is considered apocryphal in most Abrahamic
01:06:04.000
And when you see depictions of Asmodeus, you have a bunch of different like classic giant
01:06:11.000
Um, and maybe what I'll do is I'll, I'll share that real quick.
01:06:15.000
I find this interesting, um, as to, uh, a depiction of him because it reminds me of sort of the
01:06:25.000
Where you have a, here we go, add this to stage.
01:06:29.000
He's got the face of a man, the face of a ram, the face of a bull.
01:06:33.000
And then it looks like maybe even the head of a lion.
01:06:38.000
Cause he almost in some ways, have you ever seen the way that ball is depicted where it's
01:06:42.000
like this sort of spider creature, um, with lots of old man, there's like an old dude's
01:06:48.000
And like a bunch of other heads of animals, very common.
01:06:51.000
You see these things depicted as some sort of chimera, right?
01:06:55.000
Look at his teeth, the old man teeth right there.
01:06:58.000
Oh, he has like spider webs coming out of his mouth or something.
01:07:15.000
I feel weird because we're talking a lot of like names and stuff like that.
01:07:21.000
I thought like, like our, the main show would get us in trouble, but no, it turns out it's this
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He said his name was, maybe we shouldn't say, we should say the names of the people,
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So she was like, and I was like, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.
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Get the hell away from me, my home and my loved ones.
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But then he started changing forms, uh, catch me off guard.
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Um, sometimes when I suddenly became suspicious, whether woman or man, all had, all had to go
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Tell me your real name would indicate Asmodeus, uh, even if whispered or mouthed, I would curse
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So like she's being tricked by any like old different forms.
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And then when she finally is like, Hey, what's your name?
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Some form of fashion, it would be the same name.
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Not to say I've ever heard this name spoken or that I haven't seen the name.
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Uh, but I didn't know it was a demon figured probably some Greek mythology character or whatever.
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After he told me the name many times, I searched it on Google and found out.
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If they're allowed to lie and say another name, that's more power, like a more powerful
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Um, the space there because it's like how much of what the information that we're gleaning
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Like where if a guy could assume the power of the dude that he works for, he's going to
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That's like a, the dread pirate Roberts, right?
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In a princess bride where it's like, it's a title that's assumed.
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There are different entities that have hold held these titles, but is Asmodeus a title
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It's, I think, I think it's just referring to a dude, to a, some ancient deity, which,
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I was just actually looking up some of these, the fallen angel, um, deities and there are
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some that are associated with lust and sex, but, uh.
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It's interesting to me by the way that like, you know, even, even in her kind of state of
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mind where she's not fully educated on these things, um, which by the way, I think, uh,
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Dr. Dingbat, I've seen her go back and forth in the chats.
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And I guess it's a, it's a product of, of necessity.
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So Gadriel, um, is one that is, is associated with temptation and loss of innocence.
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We just sent some interesting stuff on, uh, uh, what the hell is this guy's name?
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This, this is definitely not a magic, the gathering card.
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That looks to me like, um, the Egyptian sun disc.
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Um, you'll see it depicted as being like, uh, winged.
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Uh, it says King of wands, Asmodeus makes men fly into passionate rage and desire, destroys
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the happiness of married couples, waste the beauty of virgins, reveals the future.
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So this guy kind of seemingly, uh, is consistent.
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We have two versions and we learned this from Heidi love.
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Both of them are otherwise, uh, they appear to be the same.
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It's got some more room in it, but, uh, otherwise it's the same thing.
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So what the hell do you have your hands on Xerox, by the way?
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So this is a, this is the other fallen that I was looking at here.
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Uh, teaches holy secrets, instructs how to make weapons and the art of seduction.
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So it seems that there's some overlap, but, um, it does seem that you need different sigils
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if you want to be able to, uh, you know, bend this guy to your will, have a, maybe build
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Well, we have fucking a couple of tarot cards in our house too.
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You were at, um, so she's thinking that he could possibly be lying.
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Um, I pray more and I actually often cry praying during the night while asleep.
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I don't think he's coming around as much, but there's still plenty of insanity.
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Oh, by the way, when I started calling him up, him out and rebuking him, he initially,
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he got angry and saw his more, and I saw his more hideous true form.
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This is the same thing that the, um, the character from not a character is not a work of fiction,
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but, uh, the woman from, he came to set the captives free.
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But when she started to become rebellious, uh, there were times where he showed his true
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So there's some more because these are like, she just started to DM me separately.
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She says, I've also heard the sound of entities.
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Um, now, now it's kind of like getting into some like loose stuff, but I think we should,
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we can follow up with her and ask her more questions about this.
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If I want to follow up on all three of these people.
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Uh, Devin, Joe ending, but ding bot and ding bat.
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I also heard the sound of entities sound like a tornado or a train right outside my room
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Before I thought it was an angel chasing out the demon.
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Um, also, it seems like I hear, I hear not super loud at all, but very deep base sounds
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of unintelligible sounds, but it still seems like words.
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I mean, you know what that reminds me of, uh, in Lord of the Rings, Gandalf and the rest
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of the fellowship are trying to traverse a mountain in order to get to, um, uh, Mount Doom.
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And what it is, is it's a character Saruman, who is, uh, whispering spells from like great
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distances away, miles away to try to manipulate the weather on the mountain.
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It's like, he says, uh, Legolas says there's an ill voice on the wind, I think is how he
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And to me, if you're constantly hearing the deep base sound of an unintelligible sounds,
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but it seems like words, I think, well, she goes on to say, I think it's an angel having
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And then, uh, she's just kind of goes on to cap it off, basically saying like, she's
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been on different types of meds, antidepressants, anti-anxiety, nothing really quelled the experience
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They would just make her indifferent to them, uh, to the things that were, that were actually
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And which is, you know, that's par for the course.
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Uh, various types of meds and antidepressants, anti-anxiety, anti-psychotics.
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So she just, they're just dumping SSRIs or whatever the hell on her.
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And it's like, man, I don't know because I'm no doctor, but if you read Dr. Dingback's
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story, it sounds a lot like, um, a lot like she's, you know, under a spiritual attack.
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And that happens sometimes too, when it comes to, um, what the hell is this sickness?
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I've heard stories where people thought somebody had Lyme disease and then they ended up, you
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know, in their estimation later on being a spiritual attack, which is why doctors will
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find Lyme disease as being like very confusing.
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And it's one of those diseases, by the way, that like can have so many symptoms that when
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you read the list of symptoms, you're like, this is everything.
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It's the sickness of having everything that doesn't make any sense.
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It's a lot of the times the doctors, they will diagnose you with Lyme because you're having
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a lot of symptoms that they're not quite sure of like where they're coming from.
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And, uh, when you test for it, there's like bands, like a tree.
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If you have a lot of bands, they're saying, Oh, well then you've had Lyme for a long time,
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but there's really no way, no indicator to get exactly.
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It's almost like COVID where they're like, Oh, it's never been isolated in a, in a, under
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And just like COVID it's like, Oh, you can have it and not have any symptoms at all.
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As a matter of fact, most people that do don't have symptoms.
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So it's, it's, it could be potentially nothing at all.
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And it also can be potentially anything in between, like what it's everything, nothing
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That sounds like sometimes, you know, I look at doctors and I'm like, your, your ability
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to label things and create an air of authority on the matter is insane because it's like so
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And that makes you believe they have it under, under wraps.
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And it's like, no, but it's, it's kind of the art of a lot of the medical.
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The medical industry is the art of giving things a name.
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And you go, Oh, Oh, what's a, what's the matter with you doc?
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Probably like, Whoa, you guys don't know shit, huh?
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It is interesting that like a tick does hold this.
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When you look at a tick and you like zoom in on its face, it looks like a damn demon.
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And it comes out when your immune system is completely compromised, which sounds like
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Uh, that's actually a funny name now thinking about like her entire story.
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It's kind of a, uh, almost, I don't know if she meant it that way, but a mockery of,
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Or of her trying to diagnose herself or whatever it's a.
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So like when you're, you know, you're operating at this sort of a level for 15 years and
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never like established a baseline of healthy this, whatever it is that's inside of you
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or whatever is going on, it's going to run the, run the gamut on you.
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And it's like spiritual attack can also be physical.
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Like we've spoken about, um, parasites being in your stomach.
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And some people think that parasites are just actually demons and they, they might be,
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they go inside, they mess with your stomach floor.
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It messes up your, your brain waves and how you're thinking, how you're speaking, how
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It's affecting you on a personal level and it's, but it's very physical.
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You could actually trace it down to like what vitamins you might be deficient in because
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of these things and why you're behaving in this certain way.
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And I don't know, there's something, there's something to that.
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Even though it's like broken down scientifically, there's still something to the scientific
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And the spiritual realm or the demonic is just like playing with, you know, grains of
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And, you know, this is the thing that really upsets me about the church is that there are
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so many people that are experiencing things like this.
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She says, the Christians never knew what to do with me.
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I was always highly attuned to God, but a weird witchy sort of person.
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And it's like, there are, especially when it comes to women who I do think are more in
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tune with the spiritual realm, or maybe it's the other way around.
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Maybe the spiritual realm seeks to interact with them more than it does with men.
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Well, I think it's because they're susceptible in ways to an offering of power, because women
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are so inherently unpowerful in comparison to men, and they can never close the gap physically.
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And so, if you have a woman who is downtrodden spiritually, she's in a vulnerable state of
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mind because, whatever, maybe it's because she's not as powerful as men.
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She is kind of a good target for these things to start to influence.
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But these people, they go through this, and the church doesn't really have any answers.
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In many ways, it feels like the church would rather deal with the average Sunday visitor.
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Like, the average family who doesn't have a lot going on, who just visits and pays their
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tithes and shows up once a week, they don't want to deal with people who are having real
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And I think that that is hugely problematic, because then you have two recourses.
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You could either try to address it yourself, which is a problem, because you might seek
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witchcraft, you know, to help you deal with this problem, things of that nature.
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Or you will just suffer needlessly for 15 years of your life, you know?
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And I don't know in what way to directly correlate that to the church's dropping of a ball.
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But it just seems that the culture that the church has created is not one that's conducive
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to helping people who are going through actual spiritual warfare.
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And, you know, it just results in shit like this.
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Like I said, she's been a long-time supporter of Nephilim Death Squad.
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Like, this is going to sound crazy, but you've had some places that are like good food chains,
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And when they expand, their core values of their food just kind of gets like diminished
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You've got some, you know, Letitia at the drive-thru, and she just doesn't care.
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This is what happened with the church, I think.
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You know, the church starts off as this really strong pinnacle of like,
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They're dealing with all the real stuff, and now there's a church on every corner.
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It's like a chain of Christianity, and it's just like, who owns this?
01:23:16.000
Like, they're not paying attention to what it was supposed to be.
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The church has become, you know, the fast food.
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It used to be a sprawling, you know, what would you call it?
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Like a hall, you know, where you would go like a banquet hall.
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It used to be a banquet hall, and now it's a fast food restaurant.
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It's like, where do you turn to if you're going through this?
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Because if you want to stay on the side of righteousness, if you want to stay in alignment with God,
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well, first you have to know that that is an option.
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I just, like, I look at Dr. Dingbat, and I can't help but feel like, how does she overcome this?
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And I know it's not like we're in the habit or the occupation of giving advice, but I don't like the fact that one of the homies is going through this for 15 years.
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A little disheartening, but a good place to land it.
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