On this episode of the End of Days podcast, we are joined by the man, the myth, the legend himself, Paul of Understanding Conspiracy. We talk about his theories and theories about what is going on in the world.
00:02:56.620And today we are here with the man, the myth, the legend himself, Paul of Understanding Conspiracy.
00:03:04.620What's going on, brother? How are you?
00:03:06.620I'm pretty good, guys. Yeah, thanks for having me. It's good to be here.
00:03:09.620I am. I'm very excited. I was listening to Raven's episode.
00:03:13.620Yeah, with you on it originally, maybe before we even started the show.
00:03:17.620And you broke down the whole clown conspiracy.
00:03:19.620Then you were on tinfoil hat. And I was like, this guy, like, you bought a new, you brought a new layer of this Nephilim shit that we like to look into this beautiful, disgusting onion that every time I peel back a layer just makes me cry more.
00:03:33.620And I'm like, man, you blew my mind. So I'm looking forward to just you telling us about this today and me actually being in the room and being able to like, wait a second, extrapolate on that.
00:03:45.620All right. Yeah, yeah, no, it's good to be here. Yeah. What was it about two, three months ago? We had our talk there, Raven, something like that.
00:03:51.620Yeah, it's actually really cool because I'm here with two dudes that gave me a chance like really early in the show's life.
00:03:57.620I mean, really, in the grand scheme of things, it's still very early. I've only been doing the show now for, I think, a little bit over four months.
00:04:03.620But both of you guys took a chance on me. And man, Paul, like, really helped me come out of the gate hot with a banger when it as far as like information goes, because it's a incredibly dense theory.
00:04:15.620And you've done a lot of homework. And one of the things that I love about you, and I just want to say this, and then I'd like you to just let people know about yourself and where they can find your work.
00:04:24.620But was that you were sort of brought to the table with conspiracies, if I'm correct in my recall here, being tasked with doing a paper at university on sort of maybe the psychological aspects of conspiracies and why they're so popular and how they seem to be found in like every culture amongst every people.
00:04:46.620And you went into this as a skeptic, as a younger man. I believe you even said that you were atheist.
00:04:53.620And after delving into the realm of conspiracies and, you know, sort of trying to pick it apart and almost disprove it and maybe paint it more as a psychological aspect, you came out of it as a conspiracy theorist yourself.
00:05:08.620Yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah. I mean, I studied a fine art degree at university in Lincoln in the UK.
00:05:15.620And, you know, I was I was pretty much a stereotypical art student, smoking weed every day, taking psychedelics, you know, just just doing the usual things university students do.
00:05:24.620But I kind of started to delve into conspiracy theories as a subject matter for my artwork, because you have to just generate artwork constantly for three years and you have these teachers in market basically constantly.
00:05:37.620There's no like test at the end of the year or anything. It's just a constant three year study and a constant form of evaluation.
00:05:44.620Paul, what kind of what kind of art are you doing? Are you doing graphic art or more like physical tangible?
00:05:50.620Paint. For me, it was always painting, drawing, physical stuff. I was never much of a computer artist ever. I've always just been that way. I've just I like to use my hands, you know.
00:05:59.620And are you still doing this? Not so much having a kid these days. No, I don't.
00:06:04.620I feel your pain, brother. I got to. Yeah. So it's like, you know, time is. But listen, if you ever do get back into that, hit me up because we could do some really fun stuff like really cool stuff.
00:06:15.620Just hit me up later. Think about that. I mean, I'm always I'm always looking for a way to get back into it.
00:06:19.620But it's just I just have time, you know, with the channel and everything now as well.
00:06:24.620I do a lot of work on this now. This is my artwork now. This is what happened, basically.
00:06:28.620And by the end of my three year degree, I had this channel and this became my work.
00:06:32.620This is I started making videos like David was saying, you know, from this psychological perspective of conspiracy.
00:06:38.620What why do people believe these things? You know, are they crazy or do they have the right information?
00:06:44.620And they just seem crazy because of what it does to them, you know, but they're actually true, you know.
00:06:48.620And I basically came to the conclusion that, no, this is the right information. This is all real.
00:06:53.620Just the people saying it crazy and no one takes it.
00:06:56.620You can't present. They're not presenting it very well.
00:07:00.620But back in this is years. This is like a decade ago. This was the early days of conspiracy theories.
00:07:05.620You know, this was this is when Requiem for a Dream was blasting in the background while you saw a meteor crashing into a planet exploding type YouTube videos.
00:07:13.620You know, this was cheesy, over the top, over dramatized imagery with the Matrix clips put in there every three seconds.
00:07:19.620You know, it was old school days of presentations, basically.
00:07:23.620And no one was taking it seriously then. And I kind of got past that and realized at the bottom of it all.
00:07:30.620No, this is real. This is actually really happening. Like there's a conspiracy.
00:07:33.620And I suppose I wanted to make a channel which would say them in a way that people could relate to more easily and not think it's crazy.
00:07:42.620So I kind of developed this philosophy because I've always been a kind of a salesman.
00:07:45.620I've always worked in retail. And even now I'm I'm a self-employed photographer.
00:07:50.620I have to sell myself, you know, but you've got to people don't buy products by the person selling the product.
00:07:57.620So you have to you're an ambassador for the truth. And if you look crazy, people aren't going to buy the information that you're trying to sell them because they don't want to end up like you.
00:08:06.620But if you seem well together and calm and cool and collect, then they'll psychologically think, well, he seems well put together and he believes it.
00:08:13.620So there must be something to it. That's kind of how we have to do it.
00:08:16.620It's sad that people work that way. Like I said, you know, but some people do lose their mind very quickly when they start spiraling down rabbit holes.
00:08:23.620And it does turn them into weirdos. It does. I've been there. We've all been there. It's what happens, you know, totally normal.
00:08:30.620But I try and I try myself to help people stay grounded. That's kind of what my channel was originally all about.
00:08:36.620But then I developed this theory as I did my own research in the conspiracy, which we're going to talk about today.
00:08:41.620So, yeah. Yeah. You know what? You're 100% right, man. I find myself going in and out of that.
00:08:46.620Like whenever you find out something new, you're like, holy shit, Charlie Day pointing at the wall with the fucking, you know, the rope.
00:08:52.620And I found a good way to outlet this for people, anybody listening.
00:08:56.620I mean, either intense study and writing books like like Paul is doing or or like comedy and jest.
00:09:03.620If you if you kind of keep yourself lighthearted, people also they'll laugh.
00:09:07.620They'll not quite know where to put you. And they also don't know when you're completely serious.
00:09:11.620We're like, well, it's interdimensional beings in there, you know, the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.
00:09:15.620That's what I'm talking about. And they're like, huh, this guy's fucking funny.
00:09:18.620I'm like, yeah. OK, I'll talk to you in a year. You know, you're not ready yet.
00:09:22.620I love that, though. That really does work out because comedy is the great sort of equalizer.
00:09:26.620It brings people's guard down, you know, and it allows for these ideas to to sort of permeate and and and be considered at least because that guard is is that defense that they put up.
00:09:39.620That's a defense that they're using to protect their entire worldview.
00:09:43.620And so it's understandable when people are resistant to ideas like this, because it's not a fun thing having your paradigm shattered.
00:09:51.620And I'm sure that all three of us can can speak to that to some degree.
00:09:56.620And I was just lucky enough to I'm good at pattern recognition and I'm good at I'm good at noticing I'm good at recognizing when when something doesn't feel right.
00:10:09.620Oh, perfect. Gustav, something doesn't feel right. The the the official explanation isn't suffice.
00:10:16.620And if I can find something that after looking at it a bit fits much better as a lens to look at the world through, then I'm going to adopt that.
00:10:26.620And that doesn't mean in a permanent fashion, but that means I'm going to play with this lens a lot more instead of allowing it to upset me, becoming very rigid, becoming defensive.
00:10:34.620I just swap the lens out. It doesn't matter. I've popped in a lot of lenses that don't work, guys.
00:10:38.620And all you do is you take it out, you put it to the side and I don't even really throw it away.
00:10:42.620I just put it on a shelf somewhere and I go maybe later. Maybe there's some validity to that.
00:10:46.620Maybe it's not all true, but let me try this new one on. And a lot of people, they have a hard time with that.
00:10:51.620So before we get into Paul's really excellent theory, I would like if you could just let the audience know where they can find you and a bit about the work that you've done and where they can find that work.
00:11:03.620Sure. Yeah. So I'm primarily on YouTube. That's that's where I do all my stuff.
00:11:08.620I make videos. I've been on there for a decade. It's called Understanding Conspiracy.
00:11:13.620And if if you go on there, you'll see I do quite a lot of things.
00:11:16.620It's not just the Nephilim theory that we talk about today, but that is primarily what I've become known for.
00:11:22.620And like I said, I have many playlists on my channel where I'm decoding the occult symbolism in media.
00:11:27.620You know, I've got a Tips for Truthers series, which is basically, again, trying to help people stay calm and give them advice on how to deal with learning this information.
00:11:35.620I have a series on the music industry as well, which I'm kind of like doing another one called Remember, where I go into old school theories that you may have forgotten from the past.
00:11:46.620So I kind of I do a lot of things on there. But YouTube is the place to find it all. I am on you.
00:11:51.620I got to do a deep dive on on your content now because I did. I just like glimpse through like the stuff that I knew you were talking about.
00:11:57.620But yeah, a lot of this stuff sounds really interesting, like things that we've forgotten and just kind of dust this off.
00:12:03.620It's like we need to get a guest for this random conspiracy. You know, it's like, oh, yeah, yeah.
00:12:07.620The stuff on there, honestly, which I had to jog my memory about and go back and do some research because it's been a year, like 10 years since I've looked at it myself.
00:12:15.620And it really is a nostalgia trip. A lot of a lot of the theories I bring up on there, you will have forgotten about.
00:12:20.620But they have been around and they are quite prevalent and important and they're still happening.
00:12:25.620But people have just kind of pushed them to the back of the mind because something new and crazy has come along.
00:12:29.620And you kind of forget about these conspiracies that are still real, still happening.
00:12:34.620Just yeah, you're arguing with your family at Thanksgiving dinner. Right.
00:12:38.620And you're like, listen, they did this and they did this. And then you're like, fuck, what else did they do?
00:12:42.620But I know I was on to something. And like if you go back down this rabbit hole he's talking about, you can probably just rattle them off.
00:12:48.620Like, here's 10 things that happened that you just can't deny that happened in sequence.
00:12:53.620You know, like we're too stupid to remember because it's like they're fear trauming us with the next thing, the next thing.
00:12:58.620And you just don't you can't think like, you know, 10 minutes before.
00:13:01.620That's so true. Shout out to Project Chaney in the chat.
00:13:04.620I did an episode with her on The Raven's Watch.
00:13:06.620We got to get her on Nephilim Death Squad because one of the things that we did was we revisited.
00:13:11.620She said something excellent. She was just like, as conspiracy theorists, we're always looking forward.
00:13:15.620We're looking at what's happening now and trying to predict the next thing.
00:13:18.620And because of that, yeah, we lose a lot of information in the back end, man.
00:13:22.620And it's like I've been doing this for a long time.
00:13:24.620And I find myself talking about the now and the future instead of revisiting all the wild things that have happened in the past.
00:13:30.620And all we did, Chaney, Chaney and I was go back to just 2019.
00:13:35.620And it was like the whole episode was like, dude, I can't I forgot that happened.
00:13:39.620I forgot that happened. It was all this insane stuff, especially around, you know, the Q shit and and all the celebrities when when when the vid first popped off and all these celebrities are doing all these weird videos.
00:13:50.620Ellen DeGeneres has ankle monitors on and she looks like she's been crying and all the craziest crap was happening.
00:13:57.620And yeah, man, we just have this tunnel vision, you know, this horses blinders.
00:14:01.620We look forward and we look at the ground, but we don't look at what's behind us anymore.
00:14:04.620But it's the trauma. It's a trauma, Corbo. I'm going to start calling him Corbo. We're going to make that happen.
00:14:09.620Let's go about it. Let's go about it. It's a trauma because I can't I can't remember clearly before 9-11, but I know I was listening in a tinfoil hat like since its inception.
00:14:20.620I mean, before 9-11, before COVID. Look at this. Do you see? Do you see how my brain is like linking the trauma?
00:14:25.620Like we went from one trauma to the next and like the shit in between doesn't quite matter because even though I'm aware of it, it's still hard to overcome because it is a tangible human reaction that we have to this Nephilim shit.
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00:15:23.620Paul, real quick. You do have a book you're working on, right?
00:15:26.620Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like I said, I've been doing this Nephilim look like clowns theory since about 2016.
00:15:32.620October the 3rd, 2016 is the day I made my first video on the subject.
00:15:37.620And now seven, eight years later, I'm now I'm halfway through writing a book on the subject.
00:15:45.620There's a GoFundMe. You can go and support it with the pre-orders on there.
00:15:48.620If you're interested in getting involved, you'll get a special thank you.
00:15:51.620Your own name in the book as well, as well as a signed copy from myself once it's published.
00:15:55.620Um, but basically I've, I've been doing this so long that I had just had this huge body of work.
00:16:01.620I have like a 43 episode series dedicated to breaking all this down, going into many facets.
00:16:06.620There's discoveries along the way as I do my research, you know, and I've realized this, this needs putting in writing before I end up getting taken away and everything just disappears, you know?
00:16:15.620Um, so that's what I'm doing right now. I'm working on the book and it's the, the support has been amazing, you know, overwhelming.
00:16:20.620People are thirsty for this, this information is quite by me.
00:16:24.620We'll be sure then, uh, to link the GoFundMe in the description below.
00:16:28.620Uh, I'm really excited for that. I'll certainly be one of the first purchasers as soon as that book comes out.
00:16:32.620I'll be looking forward to adding that to the collection.
00:16:35.620Um, real quick, how long do we have you? Because I want to see how we're going to play this out.
00:16:40.620Um, I can go till about 10, quarter to 10. I can go for two hours, something like that.
00:16:46.620Okay, perfect. So then, uh, because we're, we're chatty Cathy's.
00:16:49.620We're going to interrupt you a lot. We're going to have a lot of questions.
00:16:52.620And so just keep that in mind as we're going through this, but I want you to start, um, at sort of the, the, the beginning of your, your, your argument.
00:17:00.620Uh, what is it do you think that makes the, uh, the, the, the modern day visage of the clown sort of an homage, uh, to the actual vision or visage rather of the Nephilim?
00:17:15.620Okay. Yeah. So I've been trying to condense this down to a quick elevator pitch for a good, like year or two, to be honest.
00:17:21.620And, uh, I'm getting there. I have just released a Nephilim clown connection in 15 minutes video where I've broken it down as quickly as I possibly can.
00:17:29.620And even then I didn't get everything in there. So we'll flesh it all out today. But if I could basically just very quickly summarize it is that the, what we call a clown and the image of a clown in the Western hemisphere, that the, you know, the Western world, the European American kind of version of a clown is a purposely created symbol that represents demons or the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim giants that were once on the earth.
00:17:57.620That's the theory quickly summarized. And I have gone on to prove that there is some nefarious, weird stuff going on in the creation of a clown throughout history, specifically this Western iteration.
00:18:08.620Now the work is primarily what I do, an anthropological study of different folk traditional cultures found all around the earth on every continent. These are the oldest traditions that, um, these ancient traditional cultures and religions have been following even long before their religions came along.
00:18:24.620You know, this is old ritualistic passed down through word of mouth generationally for thousands of years type stuff.
00:18:31.620And you'll find they all have this thing called ancestor spirit worship, but they like to dress up in a very weird psychedelic colored white skinned polka dot, big golden crown, red head, headdressed looking thing, like a clown, something similar to a clown, kind of similar to what we would describe as clownish features for the sole purpose of channeling all the
00:18:54.620Or warding away Nephilim spirits or their ancestor spirits or their ancestors, as they call them.
00:18:59.620So when they say ancestor spirits, they don't mean what we kind of translate the word ancestor to mean. They don't mean the family members who have died 100 years ago or so.
00:19:08.620They don't mean the great great grandmas or uncles or aunties or whatever. They mean the builders of their civilization from an ancient past.
00:19:16.620They're talking about the old ones, the old guard, the gods of the ancient past that they believe built their civilization and everything about their culture.
00:19:25.620So these aren't family members. These ancestor spirits are old ancient spirits that they consider something worthy of veneration and emulation.
00:19:34.620So that's why they dress like them. And they understand that this practice of dressing like the thing is to channel the thing, to bring it into their bodies.
00:19:43.620And when they do dress up like this and do allow the thing into their body, usually then it varies among every culture, but it's usually to gain something from the spirit, whether it's information, knowledge, power.
00:19:54.620And then the tribes will offer sacrifices up to it. Some people who the fame, for example, in India, when they do their version of this, people give them live chickens and they have to eat the head off the chicken because it's an offer to the God.
00:20:07.620It would be disrespectful for the channel and not to eat the thing because the God within them wants the blood.
00:20:12.620So they have to do it. Do you know what I mean? And this is this is basically happens everywhere.
00:20:17.620It's it's it's huge in Africa. I'll say that. And it's it's kind of just ancestor spirit worship is a huge thing in Africa and India, mainly south of the equator.
00:20:27.620If you go north of the equator, we have a weird way of doing it now in Europe, for example, and in the Russian area, Siberian area and North America's kind of our own way of doing because we're highly Christianized peoples.
00:20:42.620It is kind of more occulted. It's more hidden in the Western Hemisphere because, well, we're dealing with demon spirits.
00:20:48.620And if they're roaming around in a realm that's predominantly Christian, then that means they are more prone to be easily cast out and or object to.
00:20:57.620Well, they're not anymore. I mean, look at America.
00:21:00.620Well, that's probably part of the agenda, isn't it? You know, that's why there is such a degradation and a removal of God from the Western Hemisphere.
00:21:06.620Probably is to aid in the out the outward appearance of these Nephilim creatures coming in through channels and mediums by making people more and more clownish in nature.
00:21:16.620So this is what I'm saying with the clown kind of comes into it for us.
00:21:19.620So for these other cultures down south that I've kind of talked about and explained with the veneration and ancestor spirit worship to them, it's perfectly out in the open and understood and well accepted within the culture.
00:21:29.620That's what they're doing. It's not hidden. It's known and people gather to watch it happen and they allow it to happen and they give the demon when it's possessing somebody veneration and adulation and applause and give it stuff.
00:21:42.620You know, they want it to happen. People are doing it because they want to be possessed and the culture is aware of it and don't shut it.
00:21:49.620They accept it and encourage it in the in the northern western hemispheres.
00:21:54.620We don't. We don't accept that. That's taboo. That's evil. It's not the devil. It's wrong.
00:21:58.620We cast them out in Jesus's name. So they have to be hidden. They have to be clever about it in the north to get away with doing this.
00:22:04.620So to do that, what's been invented is what we call a clown.
00:22:08.620A clown. And to us, a clown is just on a surface exoteric.
00:22:12.620What the profane simple masses are supposed to understand is just something silly for the kids.
00:22:17.620And that's all a clown is towards. However, it's not.
00:22:20.620It's identical in fashion and design to the same outfits worn by these traditional folk traditions who purposely wear these costumes to be possessed by demons.
00:22:29.620It's the same. It's the same costume, same aesthetic.
00:22:32.620Let me interrupt you. One of the questions that I had when I was listening to you interview Raven was, so you're saying that these are the old lowercase g gods.
00:23:06.620Like I am inclined to believe that, yes, there was some kind of first creation of masses of peoples that were told to go forth, spread and take over the earth.
00:23:17.620Basically, you know, go forth and multiply, basically.
00:23:19.620And that's not what happens to Adam and Eve.
00:23:22.620It's a different story immediately after that phrase.
00:23:25.620It then says God created Adam and put him in a garden.
00:24:44.620But what I have what I thought was interesting that fit in with my theory is that there's this thing called the Book of the Mecca of Cain and Leviathan,
00:24:51.620which has just been released in 2019, supposedly by the Vatican.
00:24:55.620It's like an old people say, oh, well, it's just it's not canon.
00:25:01.620You know, it's just a heretical book type of thing.
00:25:03.620People don't view it with any seriousness.
00:25:05.620But if you read it, it goes on to explain what the mark of Cain specifically was.
00:25:10.620It gives you an answer. It doesn't humor or postulate.
00:25:13.620And the character of Lamech from Cain's lineage is six generations down from Cain's side.
00:25:19.620It's trying to find out who did Adam mate with?
00:25:23.620What's going on here? So who did Cain have sex with?
00:25:26.620Like, how are we here? And why do we have white skin?
00:25:30.620And not like me or you. I'm talking porcelain, plaster, leprosy, piece of paper, white, white, vampiric white.
00:25:40.620It's like, why do we all look like this?
00:25:44.620He couldn't understand even himself how Cain managed to create all these people, because if it's just Adam and Eve, then it doesn't make any sense.
00:25:52.620So he goes on a quest to discover where did these people come from? What's going on?
00:25:58.620How did this happen? How did the Earth get populated if Adam and Eve were the only people?
00:26:01.620And he doesn't like the answers he keeps getting from people.
00:26:04.620He's upset the prospect, I think, of hearing that he wasn't from the lineage of the first people or something like that.
00:26:10.620His pride got to him. And by then he'd kind of made friends with a giant Nephilim who was roaming around at that time who had taught him how to tame a giant lizard called Leviathan.
00:26:21.620And every time someone gave an answer he didn't like, he made Leviathan eat them out of anger and rage.
00:26:27.620And he's also trying to ask and find out, like, why do we have leprous white skin?
00:26:32.620So that's implying that's what the mark is. And that's what every generation down from Cain will be marked with.
00:26:36.620Now, leave racial stuff out of this. It's not about that. This is something else.
00:26:41.620But what does make sense to my theory is that the Nephilim are said to have been extremely pale white skinned creatures with fiery red and or golden hair with glowing golden and or blue eyes with a big wide serpent grin and everything.
00:26:54.620Now, if the Seraphim angels, the Watchers are the ones who mated with the daughters of Cain, the daughters of Cain would have bought this extremely pale white skinned mark.
00:27:04.620Therefore, it's highly likely that's where the Nephilim genetically got their extremely pale skin with the wild fiery red hair from their fathers.
00:27:12.620Oh, I thought, I thought, I thought the timeline, I thought that the Nephilim might have come before, but you're saying that they, they come after.
00:27:20.620The Nephilim are strictly a product of Watchers mating with human women in the antediluvian age.
00:28:24.620Yes, from Seth's lineage. So Adam's, you know, third born son after Abel was killed.
00:28:29.620Seth is the righteous lineage and pure and doesn't mix with these people, I suppose.
00:28:34.620The thing is, it says by, I think it's by like the last generation of Noah.
00:28:39.620Everyone's corrupt. It's all mixed. It's just one big blend.
00:28:42.620You don't know who's who. It doesn't matter anymore.
00:28:44.620It's just Noah is the only one left who's pure in his generations, essentially.
00:28:47.620By that point, everyone's corrupted by the end. So it's kind of irrelevant.
00:28:50.620But the point is you can trace the lineage of Jesus all the way back through Seth.
00:28:55.620That's the hat. That's what the Bible is.
00:28:57.620No, it's just that's why they're always about the dates, the times and the names and the families.
00:29:00.620That's why it's constantly just tracking it right from the beginning, because it is kind of like a war happening, isn't it, between this corruption of God's creation and the perfection of God's creation.
00:29:12.620I think even after the flood and the Nephilim returned again and tried to do it again, you know, and there's a constant agenda at play to corrupt God's creation.
00:29:21.620And that's what a lot of this is all about. So I think Cain, who was the first murderer full of jealousy and pride and hubris, he kind of made friends with the fallen angels who also had a very similar mindset towards God.
00:29:35.620They were also cast out of the perfect world, you know, from heaven down to earth.
00:29:40.620That's funny, Paul, because you're saying this whole sort of this manipulation of the genealogy of God's perfect creation by the Nephilim right in the fallen.
00:29:52.620And so if you look to today's standards, you still have this happening with this whole alien abduction mystery that's going on, which, you know, I'm much more of the mindset that this is still of the fallen of the Nephilim.
00:30:07.620But one of the things that they do is that they are abducting people and they are having hybrid babies with them.
00:30:13.620And I remember when I was younger reading this book by Whitley Stryver is called Communion.
00:30:17.620He talks quite a bit about people's firsthand testimony in regards to being abductee victims.
00:30:23.620And he says in his sort of wrap up of the story that the point in his mind has something to do with, you know, altering the DNA of mankind, creating this hybrid with our DNA and their DNA.
00:30:39.620And so looking at that alone in a bubble, it's interesting enough.
00:30:44.620But as soon as you consider for a moment that these things are not what they're claiming to be, not what our government is telling us, they are not some highly advanced civilization from another planet who, you know, through their own technological means have managed to come, you know, thousands of light years across the galaxy to do whatever the hell.
00:31:02.620No. What if these things are the same ancient adversaries that have been along with us since the dawn of mankind and who are still at the same game, which is changing our DNA, manipulating our DNA hybridization between our species and their species.
00:31:21.700And if you look at it that way, it suggests that very much the same exact thing is still happening today.
00:31:51.700Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think the agenda shifts slightly because in the first incursion where the watch is mated with human women,
00:32:19.460it wasn't all the fallen angels that got involved with that.
00:32:22.760It was just, I think it was about 200 watcher class angels decided to mix themselves with human women and gave into that lust.
00:32:28.340It seems like they had a bit of a nudge from Lucifer, you know, to do it, you know, like, don't they look beautiful? Go and do it type of thing.
00:32:34.080It's only those watchers that did that and created the Nephilim that got bound in chains till the end.
00:32:39.540There were still fallen angels everywhere who weren't bound in chains, who hadn't legally broken any rules.
00:32:44.880So they don't have to, you know what I mean? They were very sneaky about it in that respect.
00:32:49.460Are these the angels that were bound in chains at the bottom of the Euphrates?
00:32:53.700Or are these the ones that were kept in a sort of prison that sounded something to the effect of Tartary or Tartarus?
00:33:00.960Hades or Tartarus, yeah. These are the ones that come out of the pit in Revelations.
00:33:04.920This is Apollyon and Abaddon coming out with the tail scorpion men who have the power to sting, you know, and not kill people in the end times.
00:33:11.660This is them. And it says they'll be released until the final judgment, you know, just before that time.
00:33:16.260But and so they're the watchers who were who were locked up as Hazel and Semyasa were the leaders of those watchers.
00:33:22.940So it wasn't Lucifer, you know, or Satan, who was the leader of that particular group who decided to do this.
00:33:28.920But they're all kind of working together. Once they crossed that line, there was no going back.
00:33:33.440They knew that they knew. So it was all.
00:33:36.340So, yeah, like I said, those angels locked up, gone, but they're still fallen angels messing around.
00:33:41.280And after what they saw the punishment was, those angels were like, yeah, we're not going to do that again.
00:33:47.680You know, that's not something we want to end up suffering because they had to watch their beloved ones, as are described in Enoch, murder each other, which are the Nephilim.
00:33:57.340So there's this huge war that happens.
00:33:59.360It's called the Clash of the Titans in Greek mythology, but it's basically the Titans, the giants start killing each other over power struggles to dominate the earth.
00:34:09.680And then they also turn on the gods, the pantheon of gods of Mount Olympus, which are the fallen angels of Mount Hermon.
00:34:17.360It's the same thing, you know, and they start turning on their own parents, thinking we want to be the only gods on earth.
00:34:23.640Screw you, parents, we're coming for you, you know.
00:34:25.240And these are angels they're dealing with, so the angels just murdered them, just absolutely annihilated them, because it's kind of like they're way above any earthly creation.
00:34:34.620Nephilim or Huey, it doesn't matter, you know, you're not going to stand up against these gods as they are.
00:34:39.880So the parents had to kill their own children, and they had to watch their own children kill each other.
00:34:54.380It's the same story, it's just being retold over and over again with new fictional names and settings, but it's always the same core story, you know.
00:35:01.400Anyway, you know, these Nephilim, when they were around, they also mated with human women, and they created smaller Nephilim.
00:35:08.460Then those smaller Nephilim, which were called the Elude, also mated with human women and created even lesser Nephilim, which were called the Elio.
00:35:15.560So they wasn't, the OG ones may have killed each other off, but there was still corruption around.
00:35:19.580There were still these hybrid people everywhere, you know.
00:35:22.600So what you're saying, what you're saying is that Nephilim pussy is just whack.
00:35:27.520Like, they just want, they just want to smash human cheeks all day long.
00:35:31.120I think they had, I think they had a serious fertility issue, actually.
00:35:34.940I mean, I was talking with Gary Wayne about this when I had him on, and he was explaining how it's not easy for Nephilim to reproduce.
00:35:40.280It's like they don't really have women like we do, because they're not supposed to really exist.
00:35:45.880They need eggs, so they come to human women to abuse that system in order to propagate and create more.
00:35:52.080And the book of King Og of Bashan is another one of these books, like the book of Lamech, goes on about King Og, who was a Nephilim, who was mentioned in the Bible, you know, and it's his story.
00:36:01.440And he was warring with Nimrod, it says, or a character called Nimrod, anyway.
00:36:06.260And he was basically, he had his own religion where he was, there was this prophecy of a moon child would come, this female who will then help us propagate more of our own kind.
00:36:20.020She was like the one to come to save the Nephilim fertility problem.
00:36:24.480She was the one that was going to help us breed more Nephilim, you know.
00:36:27.920She was going to solve our issue of our population problem.
00:36:33.000So he's, and the whole book is basically him just screaming about how much he hates Nimrod for what he's done.
00:36:39.500Like that's basically, this is actually really interesting because if you do a lion and a tiger, it creates a liger, but a liger can't mate with another liger.
00:36:49.940What's interesting about a liger is that it's significantly larger than both a lion and a tiger.
00:36:54.680But like I said, non-viable offspring if you mate it with another one.
00:36:58.080But I do believe you can still take that liger and have it mate with either a female tiger or a female lion and still create an offspring that way.
00:37:11.020And so, and there is this idea that oftentimes when you crossbreed species, one, the offspring is going to be non-viable.
00:37:19.640And two, it's going to be significantly larger than the original two species.
00:37:22.580That's, that's something that actually is relatively common in the animal world.
00:37:26.480So I, I find that interesting how that sort of almost mirrors the same exact thing when it comes to human beings and, and Nephilim.
00:37:35.300Although I suppose in the being larger, that doesn't seem to be the case where they, like you said, there's sort of subsections of Nephilim as they get smaller throughout lineage and, and have different titles or names.
00:37:47.000But still larger than humans though, still larger than the latter half of their DNA, you know, that angel blood, the original angels mixing with human women.
00:38:22.740These were like, these are the ones that were wiped out by God, even before the flood, you know, the Nephilim wars, you know, the, the, the punishment of the watchers to watch their own children kill each other.
00:38:32.420So these, then after that, we had this problem of, I don't know, 18 foot giants, nine foot, 10 foot, 12 foot giants, lesser versions.
00:38:39.600And then you had this other thing happening where it's called the mixing of kinds in the book of Jasher.
00:38:45.580And it describes the last like 200, 120 year period, just before the flood, humanity decided we are going to manipulate our own DNA to be like Nephilim.
00:38:55.240So not birthing new Nephilim, but changing your own DNA to become mutant hybrids.
00:39:02.440So that's where you start getting all these half human, half animal hybrid creatures appearing in this time period.
00:39:08.220The mermaid, the sirens, you know, the half bird, half women, people, centaurs, half horse, half man, all sorts of crazy chimera stuff started to be created during this weird time period.
00:39:19.720Where would you say ancient Atlantis falls in this time period?
00:39:23.800Because you're describing a time period of, like when, when we're like, when I'm thinking about the Bible back in the day, you're thinking of like these guys just walking through with robes and sandals, but possibly we should be thinking about them as having greater technology than ours.
00:39:37.320Like more, maybe like wet technology rather than like this tiny mechanical shit, you know?
00:41:10.440So there's this notion that in the end times, it'll be as the days of Noah.
00:41:14.280And as you're talking about this animal-human hybridization, my brain is going towards all these theories that are emerging lately of the idea of a lot of these cryptids having been experiments, essentially, that have escaped from military facilities.
00:41:28.920I know one of the strange things that is kind of a cultural thing that's happening right now is that there has been research being conducted on the regenerative properties of the axolotl, I believe is how you pronounce it.
00:41:42.220It's a small newt-like creature that has the ability to regenerate limbs.
00:41:46.320And they're trying to see if they can figure out a way to sort of reverse engineer that DNA and apply it to human beings.
00:41:54.720And what I find really interesting about that is that recently the axolotl has become sort of a cute little character in a lot of children's entertainment.
00:42:03.980And my son is now aware of him and he says it all the time.
00:42:06.860In fact, I'm pretty sure he's listening through the door and he just shouted it through the door.
00:42:10.160And so, but, you know, there is this permeation of children's culture of this little character.
00:42:18.580And it makes you, if you're conspiracy-minded, you already know that there is an endless amount of things that the government has already experimented with.
00:42:27.780And so, if we're downstream and getting axolotl, you know, reverse engineering DNA to regenerate limbs, well, then the chances are there's already been applied experiments that failed or succeeded.
00:42:38.440But we are now in a time where that is much more a reality than ever before, maybe since the days of Noah, where we really could be sort of corrupting the flesh of mankind, mixing it with all these various creatures for whatever, you know, experimental purposes you want.
00:42:57.500And there's even this notion right now that there is these dogmen.
00:43:01.920That's something that Tony Merkel, both Top and I are a fan of a show called The Confessionals, and he handles heavily encrypteds.
00:43:09.940And there is a correlation between people seeing this dogman, this upright walking dog in excess sometimes of like 12 feet with a body very similar to a man and a face that looks like almost like a German shepherd, but it does have almost a human aspect to it.
00:43:27.460You were talking before about glowing eyes that emit light, amber or yellow, this is something that you get a lot of when it comes to these things.
00:43:35.380But one of the most consistent parallels between one story to the next is their appearance on military bases and almost even this impression that they are there to guard these military bases.
00:43:50.160So that's enough to entertain mildly the idea that there are some places where experiments are going on, where they've commissioned essentially hybridized dogmen to guard the base and, you know, against would be hunters or anything who would accidentally stumble upon these places.
00:44:07.080And so it's just funny because you go to, I believe it's in Revelations where it says, you know, during the end of days, things will be as the days of Noah.
00:44:14.860And I feel as though there's so many things that you can pluck out of what was going on before the flood and you can speculate with a great deal of anecdotal evidence at the very least as to how those things are happening right now and how they all plug into this larger conspiracy, this Nephilim shit, these paranormal cryptid experiences.
00:44:37.960And so, yeah, it just is something that I was thinking about while you were speaking.
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00:45:07.480No, well, I think in terms of being as it was in the days of Noah, it truly will be when the public themselves have been sold the technology and are using it openly right now.
00:45:22.660I think it's happening in military kind of circumstances behind the scenes, hidden from us in labs that are doing secret experiments type of stuff.
00:45:30.280I think that probably is going on and they are creating these elite guards, let's say.
00:45:37.200Someone posted it in the Telegram and I think it's like the G-something summit where all the world leaders come together and they're taking photos.
00:45:43.160Yeah, they're taking photos, Holt's shaking each other's hands.
00:45:45.880And someone pointed out, look at the guards on either side of them.
00:46:07.940Something must be, when you said guarding, that made me laugh because I thought that, yeah, they probably are utilizing genetic engineering to make super soldiers.
00:46:15.940That are the modern day versions of Nephilim, you know, including mixing DNA with animals to gain certain traits from them.
00:46:23.300Longevity, regeneration, for example, you know, permeated skin, whatever they can do to make humans better.
00:46:30.560Human plus, it all fits into the transhumanist movement as well.
00:46:33.940The idea of mankind taking control of his own evolution.
00:46:37.440They're slowly selling it to us in the media.
00:47:02.340Are people saying, oh, cool, I wish I was a super soldier?
00:47:04.940Or are they saying, what the hell is going on?
00:47:07.320We've, we, Jesus, what are people saying?
00:47:09.740You know, like, I think they do these test runs.
00:47:12.360But when it is public and when people are willingly taking the mark, the change, the genetic corruption to become X-Men, to become superheroes by their idols.
00:47:39.440We bring this up very often on this show.
00:47:41.580And I don't know if I've gotten your thoughts on it when you did the Raven's Watch.
00:47:44.160But this idea that this is not a conspiracy theory, the WikiLeaks of Hillary Clinton's emails looking for Gilgamesh and the buried bodies of the Nephilim.
00:47:55.400I mean, that is like the highest level of confirmation.
00:47:59.100And I don't know how you, you know, when you see the email where Hillary Clinton is talking about sacrificing a chicken to Moloch, you could almost, by some incredible feat of mental gymnastics, say that that is a sort of euphemism.
00:48:12.520And you can, you know, say maybe that means she's paying her donors off or something like that or whatever the case may be.
00:48:20.520But you really have a hard time finding a euphemism that's going to plug in nicely to like, oh, she wasn't looking for, she didn't mean she was looking for Gilgamesh and the buried Nephilim.
00:48:51.620I think they know the majority of people just aren't going to take it seriously or even, they don't have enough information or knowledge to even acknowledge what that means when she says she's doing that.
00:49:02.440So they just, rather than trying to figure it out, people just tend to glaze or gloss over that type of stuff and move on to things they can understand that are in their context.
01:44:27.740Elongated skulls are such a common trait of Nephilim.
01:44:30.580They've been uncovered everywhere, you know?
01:44:32.320There's just this phenomena of huge, volumed, heavy, thick skulls are all over the place, and they likely belong to the lower-form Nephilim, the Elio and the Elioid.
01:44:43.560Not the 40-foot tall ones, but maybe the 9-foot, 12-foot tall ones, because they tend to be relatively human-sized, just a bit bigger, you know?
01:44:51.140So that's, again, just a nod and a wink to the Nephilim, the pinheads, the coneheads, you know, the longheads.
01:44:56.460But the clown always has that, usually has that feature somehow.
01:45:00.920So the ruffle around the neck, a really common trait.
01:45:06.120Lizards in Australia do have that feature, and I do think a lot of the Nephilim would have had a similar feature as well.
01:45:13.000It's translated into a silly little cloth around the neck of a clown.
01:45:17.760Clowns are often associated with having extremely large feet, and not on a wink to the fact that they used to be giants or large gloves in some way.
01:45:25.080If not something large, they would also have something tiny, like a little hat or a little umbrella.
01:45:30.540Again, a nod and a wink to these ordinary objects to us would be tiny to them in comparison.
01:45:35.340It's just a symbol, you know, a metaphor, a nod and a wink to that idea.
01:45:41.920The idea of many clowns coming out of a car is symbolic of many spirits, legion, coming out of a human body.
01:45:48.740You know, and also a tiny car full of giants, you know, is a Nephilim reference, again, to their giant nature.
01:45:54.540A car in the dream symbolism world represents a human body.
01:45:59.340If your car breaks down in a dream, it's very likely in the real world you're currently suffering from some kind of debilitating illness.
01:46:05.840It's very common people dream about cars breaking down when they've broken their leg, for example, because it's a symbol.
01:46:10.860It's a sign of your ability to move through the world.
01:46:28.460Clowns are often on stilts as well for that reason.
01:46:30.980Accentuates their height, makes them the fact that they were giants.
01:46:34.280And again, it's used by secret societies who did this, who created this in circuses, which were made by secret societies in the 19th and the 20th century for the specific purpose of recreating rituals that were done in Freemason lodges.
01:46:49.060So the first early circuses were created by Freemasons.
01:46:52.680Everything about them was run by the Ringling Brothers, P.T. Barnum and Bailey, all of them.
01:46:57.500You know, it's always the something bros, all these old circuses.
01:47:01.380It's the something brothers, the B-R-O's at the end of every name.
01:47:04.620Well, brother, a brother is a member of the fraternity.
01:47:15.860So every circus in America, the early ones that came out of Britain from Astley and his horse shows, they were molded by Freemasons to mimic the rituals performed in Freemason lodges.
01:47:28.660The ringmaster, the lord of the ring, the one who orchestrates the ritual of the circus is a copy of the worshipful grandmaster in a lodge who is the only one allowed to wear a top hat in the lodge.
01:47:39.580The top hat wearing leader of the ring in a circus is just the worshipful grandmaster in a Freemason lodge.
01:47:46.600What do they do but have these rituals in Freemason lodges to summon demons while they're orchestrating the demons or the clowns at the circus?
01:47:58.080They have put into the public during this time period the satanic invocation rituals hidden and occulted under something fun for the family.
01:48:06.400But they've managed to get the entire village to get involved in the ritual because when the circus comes to town, you go.
01:48:13.600Because what else are you going to do?
01:48:14.840I was going to bring my kids to the circus tomorrow.
01:48:17.540And now I'm like strongly considering not doing that.
01:50:40.860You know, it's kind of, yeah, we get a similar base, uncanny valley, instinctual fear from a clown as we do from a reptile or a snake.
01:50:49.580Like it's, it's kind of, you know, something interesting that I've dealt with.
01:50:53.540So I lived in New York and I moved to Florida because of the COVID response.
01:50:57.640But one of the issues that I had with my son is he had a like delayed development because I, what I think is everybody in New York, besides like immediate family that he saw is wearing a mask.
01:51:07.880So you're never reading people's faces and you don't develop in the proper way.
01:51:13.580So I like got him out of there as fucking soon as I could.
01:51:17.720But like, I'm, I'm just imagining the generation of kids that were born at that time period that didn't see a human reaction or face at the supermarket or wherever they went for two years, three years.
01:51:28.500And people still do it to a certain point.
01:51:30.800So people will still, you know, cover their face.
01:51:33.020Like, like this is going to, this generation, when they grow up, they'll probably be like super susceptible to Nephilim shit because that's kind of like a precursor to it, right?
01:51:42.140Like the clown is like hiding this intention behind you.
01:51:45.560And it's, it's like, it's, it's messing with their base instinct of something that they should have immediately.
01:51:51.360But now it's normalized to them, you know?
01:51:55.800I think it's also, it's really telling too how the clown has just moved entirely out of the realm of humor.
01:52:01.920And it's now it's like full-time capacity is horror.
01:52:05.420It's, it's the stuff of phobias, which is weird, right?
01:52:07.800Because people have phobias of snakes.
01:52:09.300People have phobias of, but like, as far as an occupation, you know, a clown is a very, people don't have phobias of, I don't know, name another performer, like a ballerina.
01:52:18.680Nobody has a ballerina phobia, but somehow clowns have, have, have pushed their way into almost exclusively horror.
01:52:26.720That's the thing that they're most known for nowadays.
01:52:28.600In fact, if you somehow had none of the context of where a clown had been from prior and you only had today's lens to look through, you would say that a, a, a clown is a horror film mechanism exclusively just by today's standards alone.
01:53:06.820The, the evil clown trope has been around since like, well, it's basically, you know what I mean?
01:53:12.320It's been around for a while, maybe from the eighties of maybe a little bit before that, but, uh, it's been slowly becoming more prevalent, prevalent.
01:53:20.040And it's kind of escalating in a very exponential way in the past 10 years, the evil clown trope is now taken over.
01:54:39.440I have no idea, but I, but either way that came out in 2014 and that was kind of the start of something because from then on things started to happen and more horror films around clowns started to reveal themselves.
01:55:03.940You were talking about how it's all predominantly evil clowns.
01:55:06.680Now after the 2016 clown sightings, Ronald McDonald, the mascot, the happy go lucky for children, happy mascots of McDonald's was removed.
01:55:17.820Do you mean the place where they supposedly are eating human meat in their burgers that they're constantly, there's always like once every two or three years, a story pops up where they're talking about acceptable levels of human DNA found in the meat in McDonald's.
01:55:32.040I swear to you, this is a, this is a thing.
01:55:33.740And also they have directly attached to them a children's charitable foundation.
01:57:53.840And it's basically just a 20 minute pilot for this concept of a, a people trapped in an AI dimension, but the AI dimension they're trapped in, which is run by a corrupt AI who won't let them leave is a clown world.
01:58:06.840It's like a circus of some kind with the chat, but it's like 90s, early 2000 video game style theme circus effects and aesthetics.
01:58:16.880And people, maybe it's playing on the nostalgia of people.
01:58:19.740I don't know, but people are now just obsessed with the main neurotic female character who's just appeared in this world and is stuck there.
01:58:26.960And she's called Pomni and she's a jester.
01:58:29.240And she honestly, she has the body of a child in this thing, but there's all, there's already, you know, as the internet goes, plenty of perverted things made out of guessing over, you know, and it's become that rule rule 42 or something like.
01:58:43.240I'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's one of those rules of the internet, but it's happened and it's, it's sexualizing the image of a clown more.
01:58:52.380It's become one of these things. That's another phenomenon that seems to be happening recently. And it's, it's just so bizarre. And it's a product of the time is what I'm trying to explain in my video.
01:59:02.040People want me to give a breakdown of it, you know, and then, cause I do the clown stuff. It's like, you've got to talk about this amazing digital circus.
01:59:08.000There's so much hidden nuance in there and everywhere. And it's like, I could do that, but there's thousands of people have already done that.
01:59:14.400What I will tell you is look at the trend of the past 10 years. Can you be surprised? This has just turned up.
01:59:20.900And this is why it's so popular and amazing. And everyone loves it so much. Why it's already got something stupid.
01:59:25.860Like, I don't know, 150 million views in a week or something like that. You know, it's because of the pattern.
01:59:32.140If you follow back for the past decade, this is not, this is not surprising to me.
01:59:36.400Like they have been inundating us with clowns and getting us to a point where we love clowns as a collective.
01:59:44.800And that's prepping us for the return of the Nephilim.
01:59:47.620It's prepping us for the days of Noah.
01:59:48.800At the same time, these stories that are inherently true, these inherently true archetypes do speak to some kind of like, you know, like just right at the base of your skull.
01:59:57.460It's like something knows, like when it resonates, when you hear a true story, you go, ah, that's, that's the thing.
02:00:03.700That's the thing. So yeah, it's, it's all of that stuff. It's conditioning.
02:00:07.880It's just your, your base level of humanity, understanding what this is.
02:00:12.340But I want to, I want to bring this episode in for a, for a landing, not a crash landing, a little landing here.
02:00:18.240Cause I know that you got to go and I want to respect your time.
02:00:21.040So can you leave us with any like final thoughts?
02:00:23.820Cause I feel like we did an okay job letting you go, but we kind of like, I know I derailed you a bunch, not as much as tinfoil hat, but yeah, no, no, that was fun.
02:00:35.460Actually. Um, with Sam Tripoli, I didn't mind being derailed. That was fine.
02:00:39.320I know. No, I think we've, we've cut a lot of ground today.
02:00:41.340I don't normally get to talk about, to be honest. So I'm, I'm happy for it.
02:00:44.000You know, I, I kind of, I've been doing this for so long.
02:00:46.360I kind of have a spiel that of the same points being hit over and over again.
02:00:49.400So I don't mind being derailed because it makes me think about other things and say other things.
02:00:52.940I have opinions on other things, you know, so I'm, I'm happy to be able to say them. That's fine.
02:00:57.480Um, in terms of final thoughts, there's nothing really, I, I, I haven't already mentioned in like over the past seven years that I'd really want to say again.
02:01:05.400Um, just the, the important thing to do is to always bring this back to the final ultimate truth of the matter.
02:01:10.700You know, these are a defeated enemy. Jesus is real too.
02:01:14.020It's not just about these demons. That's not where my, we shouldn't just be focusing on them and, and worrying and panicking about what are we going to do about these clowns?
02:01:22.100They're done. They're defeated. We, we have authority over them.
02:01:25.520If you are suffering from demonic oppression or attacks in the form of these jesters in these other realms or sleep paralysis, just call on the name of Jesus and you'll be saved.
02:01:36.600Amen. That's a great place. I think it's a great place to leave this off.
02:01:40.380Paul. Thank, can you tell these people where they can find you again, please? It's important that you support his work.
02:01:45.420Go subscribe to his YouTube channel. When his book drops, fucking do all that stuff. Cause we need people, me and me and Corbo making it happen.
02:01:52.500We're idiots. All we do is come here and we make jokes and we let smart people tell us shit, but these are the people that you should really be supporting.
02:01:59.380So just go ahead and tell them again, man.
02:02:01.680Oh yeah. Just YouTube understanding conspiracy.
02:02:04.060Uh, if you're looking, struggling to where to start, just go to the playlist tab, hit the Nephilim look like clowns and start there.
02:02:11.960But there's plenty of things that you can go into and have a look at that, that I talk about, but yeah.
02:02:16.160And also to my own listeners who are, who are currently streaming on my show, go and subscribe to these guys.