034: Jail - NDS Chronicles
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1 hour and 55 minutes
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Summary
We're back with another episode of NDS Chronicles, where we read your submitted paranormal testimony! This week, we have a special guest on the show, Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. He's not here to protect you, he's here to defend you!
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of NDS Chronicles, the show where we read your submitted paranormal testimony.
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That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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I hope that that came through in the intro, what you said to me.
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Sometime around the 30-minute mark, we're going to go live exclusively to Patreon.com.
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Sometime around the 30-minute mark, the poors will be kicked out because they are disgusting.
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You know, all the things that are horrifying in the world, we talk about a lot of them.
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And we will be shaking them off around the 30-minute mark.
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I mean, the designs that we have are really, I know that we've put a highlight on this one before, but this is for the people.
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That's one of the coolest designs that we have.
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Let's jump straight into it because we were told by Nancy, producer Nancy, that we have a really excellent, she said it was phenomenal.
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She said it was one of the best she'd ever read, I believe was the words that she used.
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Schizofren with $10, do a give, send, go for Nancy's computer.
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We need to have one of those like how you had in TLC.
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I don't know how much a computer will cost for Nancy.
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I had to update it constantly and then the people would make fun of me when my math was wrong.
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And I think that's setting up some sort of a pay our producer.
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To be honest, I think we could just get her the parts, like the pieces of the computer.
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Somebody in the chat named Anessa M says, howdy, David.
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And that feels like it's somebody I should know in person.
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Like whenever you see something like that, it's like, do I know you from like a past life or something?
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Are you like somebody that I used to work with?
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Nancy said that we have to get straight into this.
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And I was told this is about a woman in prison.
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There's no like big spaces or anything like that.
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Are you sure you don't want to like warm up into it?
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There's always druggies and shadow people, though.
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They're going to tell us how to talk on our show.
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Honestly, I don't know if we've ever pulled the money off of YouTube yet.
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We should use the funds from YouTube for Nancy's shit.
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Guys, any super chats on YouTube are going to go towards Nancy's stuff.
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Yeah, but YouTube's still going to take half of it or something like that.
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Just like a big, like a gangly skinwalker on a computer.
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Okay, I think, all right, so a t-shirt for, because I hate, like, I mean, it's not that
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And we like to talk to them, like, when they come up.
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But I also like to give them something for what they, like, what they're paying for.
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We raised, like, a good amount of money for Toad with that shirt.
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They don't understand the things I say on Twitter, right?
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No, no, no, it's, it's, uh, I don't even have it up here anymore.
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I mean, we really got to read this 14-page story.
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Yeah, they don't understand the things I say on Twitter.
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So, this one, yeah, I mean, it cost me, like, you know, a couple of dollars, depending on
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the size to actually print the shirt, but the rest of it goes to Toad.
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Nancy should be, I think there's something about the skinwalker that really resonates
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Honestly, the day that she came up to me and said hello, it did feel like there was something
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What it is is that all the skin on my flesh crawled.
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Yeah, all of the hair on my body stood up, and it wasn't auto.
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When she stood in front of me, I said, I feel like I'm in danger.
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I think that would be fun, and then we could do, like, a little fundraiser and get, because
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Probably some sneakers, because she had no shoes on when we met her.
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This is Orange is the New Black, was what it said.
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And we actually have a brand new website that you can go to.
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But I'm going to change this, because I want you guys to send the emails to this one.
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Yeah, we made it, we tried to make it easier for everybody, so I made it longer.
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But you guys can email Nancy at nancy at NephilimDeathSquad.com.
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And I don't care what you email her with, but please do email her.
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You know, just maybe the ins and outs of your day.
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I got to get into it because we're at the 10 minute mark.
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It's all over the place and not really about one specific topic.
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It was just a weird thing that happened to me that you guys will probably think is funny.
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I had been there for a few years, so I had already had, like, so many other crazy things happen.
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I know the way you guys like to stop and talk about things, so I'll say I was there for taking scrap metal to the recycling center.
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I used to work for a place that, like, you know, we collected catalytic converters and shit and, you know, rotors.
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But, like, when you're doing that, every shop owner is like, yeah, I'd rather give it to you guys for some money than have these crackheads keep coming over here with hacksaws and cutting my cats out.
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I used to live by one of these places, and you'll see a crackhead.
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He looks like David, the type of dude to be the manager of Pathmark.
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Literally, like, I was the last, you know, part of the last wave of people that worked at Pathmark, and then we closed the doors forever.
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Anyway, they'd steal the Pathmark carts, and they'd fill them up with all kinds of metal and shit that they found from Coney Island.
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And then they'd wheel it over a big, what's this thing called?
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Like, I talked to the guys there, and they'd have to dump out all the bottles.
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All the bottles of whatever they're recycling, because they'll put water or sand in it.
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Back before you ever did it on Twitter or the internet, it was happening in shopping carts and Pathmarks.
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Heather is a, like a kind of a, you know, a drug addict white girl name.
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They stacked charges on me for the same crime, and I ended up with a seven-year sentence,
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I served 85% of my sentence, because that's how Florida do.
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It was a maximum security prison, even though I was in high custody or anything.
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It's just that when you're a low custody, you can go wherever there is room.
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So aside from your regular displaced inmates like myself, there were all kinds of really
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So I like the women that we attract to this show are...
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Cool in like a, you know, it's a colloquial term for, you know, likely on drugs, probably
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Cool like, if it wasn't for retarded shows like this, they'd be a witch.
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Also, since it's a max security, it's also where they'd hold all the criminally insane
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type inmates or like inmates with mental issues that had them had to stay confined.
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Except for whatever reason, they would randomly release some of these mentally unwell people
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Like they were giving them a trial run or something.
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I've stopped there before and had a good time with it, you know, just eating chicken.
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No, I'm saying like that's what we'll ask when we get to Zaxby's.
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And he's like, yeah, I'm looking for a Heather B.
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And we're going to find one every single time we show up.
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So except for whatever reason, they would release these mentally unwell people to the
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general population, like they were giving them a trial run or something.
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It was always these schizophrenic people who they just decide were safe to put in an open
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I've seen so many people just sit there and have conversations with themselves, full
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Like I'm sitting there watching several people have a conversation out loud, but it's just
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Yeah, overnight shift, you know, the cash registers.
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So it goes on to say, they would argue with themselves and have whole different expressions
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One of them used to even talk shit about me to the other person in their head they were
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They would whisper back and forth about me, but it was just this one huge fat lady with
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several people different, several different people living inside of her.
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Some of them were harmless, but then there were the ones that weren't.
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They had a wing of confinement called TCU for specific inmates that were just too crazy
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So they decided to let this big black lady out of TCU.
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My cousin's named Izzy, and he's a drug addict.
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I used to know what dude named Izzy, but his name was Israel.
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We kind of, I mean, kind of stay away from him.
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He's, like, gotten into a lot of drugs, does a lot of weird stuff.
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He's the dude that is in the town that's always riding the bike.
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That, like, up and down the town, they go, there he goes.
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Go check it out and blow his comments up with schizophrenic shit.
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Yeah, let him know that we're better, that we were better at conspiracies.
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Like, he knows some stuff enough to kind of, you know, keep a conversation going.
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Her first name was Islandi or Island Izzy for short.
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So, if that comes across like some kind of thing, I don't mean it to be.
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I just want you to get the scope of how big and scary this lady was.
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So, basically, you're saying that she had a high propensity for violence.
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Now, by the way, we're witnessing the wrong show.
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Every time they get us on this, like yesterday, the same thing.
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There is 80 women to an open bay, and every single one of them, no matter how bad they were,
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is like, no, she can't be here because of how crazy she was.
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She would, like, stand over people's beds in the middle of the night and talk to people
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who weren't there and was never out on the compound for more than two weeks before she
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So, of course, they put her in the bed right across from me.
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Everything was fine for, like, the first six hours.
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That is not a long time for everything to be fine.
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Grown women all telling the officers, this lady cannot be in here with us.
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And all they would say is, we can't do anything until she does something.
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This was a routine that went on whenever they would put someone like that in one of the
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There was a collection of regular schizophrenics, just normal schizophrenics, that would make
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Walking out of confinement with their big bedroll, and every yard would stop and watch
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in anticipation and dread, like, what dorm is she coming to?
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Um, and we would all breathe a sigh of relief when they didn't go in our dorm.
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In the bathroom, in the dorm, the back row of toilets face the showers.
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That thang be stank, and that big old Caribbean thang?
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Smelled like, uh, like, uh, clothes that you washed, but didn't dry.
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He says, wait, there's casual and competitive schizophrenia.
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There's minor league, and then there's, you know, there's the big leagues.
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Um, so the toilets that face the showers don't have doors.
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So you're just, like, watching people shower while you take a shit.
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Uh, it's just a row of metal toilets with, like, half a concrete wall in between each
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one, so you could look to your left and right and see somebody else's head sitting on the
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And you better get used to it because people will just walk up and ask you for coffee while
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I mean, that's how I remember getting into general population and the whole shower shit
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I never was into, like, even in gym class, I wouldn't do that.
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I'd be like, no, I'm not fucking swanging dick around these people.
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The showers you're facing are just like a saloon, swinging doors on each stall with
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The prison showers are a horrific story all in themselves.
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Um, I was using the bathroom and I stood up, flushed the turlet and started to walk down
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When one of the saloon shower doors swings open with brute force and that big black lady
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named Izzy jumped out in front of me, got in my face and said, and you next, bitch.
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I was operating on this weird prison autopilot that I can't explain.
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Thinking back to all I can compare it to is that scene in the first Jurassic Park where
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Um, uh, when he gets stuck in the mud, not the part where the dinosaur sprays poison at
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The part before when he sees it looking at him, tells him that's nice and then walks away.
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This is actually a great comment, uh, from Z-Man.
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Raven would totally ask Top where the coffee is while he's taking a shit.
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I'm not looking for the coffee while I'm shitting.
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I wash my hands real quick and I go and sit on my bed back in the main part of the dorm
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and think about whether or not being next is something I need to consider.
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And Izzy goes and sits on her bed across the row from me with her arms crossed.
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I get up and head back towards the bathrooms to tell my friend Tiffany what just happened
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But Tiffany looks exactly like the Tiffany who swore the motherfucker on the plane wasn't real.
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And that always bothers me that they have the same first name and lookalike, but she's
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And I know it ain't her, but I do see random people from prison all the time now as background
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But I'm sure that's just PTSD as I've been home for several years.
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Maybe you said it in the beginning, but how long were you away?
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People in prison, they're cloning them and then putting their clones out in public for
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People in prison from like, you know, whatever she was doing, stealing metal.
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That chick, though, the chick from the plane, it doesn't look like her.
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Like the one that's doing the rounds and making appearances, and it just doesn't look like
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I like, I kind of want to ask her, what's wrong with you?
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Well, people have asked her, and she's like, ha ha, no, it was nothing.
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We all jumped to lizard person during that time.
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It's very much like the Miami Mall situation where it was like Nephilim, and it was like,
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Even though what she said was like, that motherfucker's not real.
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Switch Wi-Fi channel due to signal performance.
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A bunch of things just happened at once, and that scared the crap out of me.
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Well, whatever's happening is only happening for us, which is reassuring.
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We look great, though, on the screen that's frozen.
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Well, while you try to troubleshoot to maybe get this back to us, it might just be the
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I do see random background people from prison all the time.
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It was kind of dumb for me to go back in the bathroom, though, because Izzy got up and
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Oh, so you basically just walked into getting cornered in the bathroom.
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I should mention that in prison, I was like 125 pounds.
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So I don't know why this lady decided that I was next.
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I'm walking in the bathroom and I feel something slam into the side of my head.
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I want to see if Heather said anything about how long.
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Heather, if you told us how long you've been in prison, say it again because our live chat
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I know she's working at the chicken joint right now and she's probably going to get her
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All right, well, let's let's read about her getting the shit beat out of her.
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I'm walking in the bathroom and I feel something slam into the side of my head.
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And next thing I know, my feet are out from under me and I'm flying through the air.
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And as quick as I'm flying through the air, now suddenly I'm on the floor of the handicapped
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shower stall and I'm looking up at Izzy standing over me.
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That was maybe the most racist thing you've said.
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So I know she's saying some shit to me, but her giant Thanos looking arms are moving and
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But I'm also in shock that this whole event is currently unfolding and time is like standing
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still with this possessed lady pummeling me and the side of my face hurts.
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And we told the guards she couldn't be in here.
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And now I'm the one about to like die in the fucking shower.
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It's I think I yelled something at her like, what did I do to you?
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It could be describing like an experience with somebody that's demonically possessed or
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just like a run of the mill experience of being in New York.
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Yeah, yeah, honestly, this is feels like high school what you're talking about.
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Yeah, this feels a lot like just a casual stroll in the middle of the day through Elizabeth,
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I remember a few girls later saying to me, why didn't you fight back?
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I love that when people say I wouldn't like sometimes when you're blindsided by a thing,
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your body doesn't it's one thing to like square up with an individual.
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It's another thing to be blindsided by an arm that is like the density of a log.
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Coming off of a big Caribbean bitch, you know, like your body isn't quite ready.
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But also you should have been ready when she told you.
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Yeah, honestly, Heather, I would have been on guard.
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I mean, but that's just, you know, yeah, you shouldn't have went to the bathroom where
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there was really no other way out except for the way you came in.
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And this was one of those times where you just curl up in a ball and pray for it to be over
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because, you know, she has the strength of a monster.
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Uh, the officers ran in and cuffed us both and took us both to confinement for fighting.
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And of course, the racist female officers in the confinement use that as a fun time to
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make fun of me and ask why I was fighting people.
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And even though I wasn't actually fighting, when shit like that happens, everyone involved
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goes under investigation, which is why I had to go as well.
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It's like it doesn't matter who's getting picked on.
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If you it was shit, it doesn't even you don't even have to fight back.
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It's just if you're involved in an altercation or you are the recipient of an ass whooping,
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You know, my kid last year, I think, got in some trouble for fighting somebody.
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He like punched him in the stomach and punched him in the nose.
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And it's like, OK, well, first he came up and he shut my kid's laptop.
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And then when he went to go open the laptop, the kid knocked all his papers.
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Then he knocked all the papers and shit off my son's desk.
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And then when my son went to go pick up the papers and shit off the off the floor,
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then he just started slapping him in the face in the head.
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And so then my son got up and punched him in the stomach and punched him in the face.
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And my question was, why was this allowed to get to that extent?
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That's why it's just it's literally what I'm reading here.
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And this I think is a Michael Malice quote, but I'll butcher it.
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It's the only place that you will experience like that.
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You are sure to experience physical violence at.
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There's there's, you know, bars on the windows.
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I would say that in my school experience, I have been in north of 15 fights and outside
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of my school experience, I've been in one altercation that took place like that.
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Every other fight has been I've paid to be in the fight to fight these people to fight
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Some guy punched me and then I punched him back and it was a whole thing.
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But yeah, in school, it was a common occurrence.
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He said, I can't go back to Brooklyn with Brooklyn without your head.
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Hey, anybody in the chat know what a pample moose is?
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Guys, Nancy is now she's doing elevator music when we don't stop ranting for so long.
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They said it means grapefruit, but please keep reading.
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On the way into confinement, you also get strip search, which is also a thing you're used
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And Izzy is in the cell next to me yelling, I swear on my life, if I ever see your white
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ass on the compound, I'm going to beat your ass for the rest of my life.
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An investigation gets done to see what took place.
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So they do figure out that I got jumped by the crazy lady they let out of TCU, but they
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still have this whole process they have to go through.
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A papoose board is something you strap a patient in when you need to stop them from moving.
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Like when the ambulance comes and they strap your head down.
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Or like what they put a Captain America in when they had to inject him with the growth
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But I just like, I never stopped to be like, what is a papoose?
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Have you ever quoted a rap song with somebody and then challenged them to a fight?
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And then them laugh at you and I went to turn away and then he threw a punch.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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Um, so they realized that I got jumped by the crazy lady that they led out of TCU, but they
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still have to go through this whole process they have to go through that involves packing
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all your stuff and getting statements and doing a whole lot of nothing.
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So this was just a story about how I, and this is a story all about how my life got to,
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Uh, this is a story of how I ended up in the confinement cell in the first place.
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I feel like I've been reading this for 38 minutes, uh, except to set the tone and add
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Uh, she actually went home and came back while I was still serving the same sentence.
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I know this because she assaulted an officer when she came back and they had to unload
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the riot pepper spray on her, which is stronger than just regular pepper spray, uh, that they
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Maybe because they would pray to not get sprayed with it.
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Because she wouldn't stay down every time they sprayed her.
00:39:35.500
That was later on though, towards the end of my sentence.
00:39:40.320
Because Izzy threatened to beat my ass for the rest of my life, they thought they should
00:39:45.600
All that means is they keep you in confinement, in a confinement cell.
00:39:49.940
They don't actually invest anything once you go to PC, which I didn't understand what was
00:39:56.060
So you're kept in this weird confinement where you're not actually in trouble.
00:40:36.460
If you want to continue listening to whatever happens to Catalytic Converter Heather, you
00:40:42.400
got to go over to patreon.com forward slash Nephilim Death Squad.
00:40:52.440
If not, I'm going to assume you were poor, and that's disgusting to me, so-
00:41:09.300
They love you when you're one of them, and then once you get a little bit of voice time,
00:41:28.160
So you go to confinement, and because of that, your bed and your drawer or your box of property
00:41:34.920
and all the shit, all your shit, everything you have has to get packed up and cataloged.
00:41:40.180
So if you don't have people around you who are decent, then everybody steals your shit.
00:41:45.860
So you got your ass kicked, and then you get your shit stolen, and then you get to be in
00:42:08.060
So everybody steals your shit, but nobody did that to me because they were all shocked about
00:42:15.460
They actually went and got the stuff I wasn't supposed to have and kept it safe for me because
00:42:27.760
Like, if you have artwork or photos or shivs, they'll purposely spill stuff all over it,
00:42:34.280
Your stuff gets packed up and inventoried, and eventually they bring you your bedding
00:42:42.520
You wait there for however many weeks while they investigate, and then there is a hearing.
00:42:48.240
Then you get your sentence and either go back to the compound or do time in confinement.
00:42:53.500
I was in that cell by myself for two weeks before they brought that little girl in.
00:43:03.960
I didn't have a bunkie, and I hadn't spoken to anyone.
00:43:07.440
The only interaction with people was during medication and chow.
00:43:13.840
Every other day, you get to shower if you want, and the officers cuff you from behind just
00:43:19.940
to walk a few feet from your cell to the shower.
00:43:31.440
You get to walk a few feet from the shower, and the shower is a cell that they lock you
00:43:37.980
in for a few minutes or a few hours, depending on when they feel like coming to get you out.
00:43:58.140
If you're going to have to come in here and grab me, it's going to stink a little.
00:44:03.820
If I'm fighting in the UFC, I wouldn't have showered for a while.
00:44:12.740
They make you clip your nails and all that, but like...
00:44:17.780
If I'm fighting Khabib or something like that, right?
00:44:26.640
Oh, Heather says, it's only like that in confinement you can shower normal in the compound.
00:44:33.380
No, but I'm saying since it was so inconvenient in confinement, did you opt to shower every other day?
00:44:42.920
Everyone still watches you girls be shower stalkers.
00:44:47.320
Half the girls just skip it and use the sink in the cell because it's easier than having to play the psychological games the guards put you through just to go through the process.
00:44:54.960
You sleep all day and stay up all night in there.
00:45:00.500
It's because they give you dinner at like 3 p.m., so by the time it's bedtime, you're so hungry that you can't just sleep, so your body trains itself to occupy yourself all night, and then you sleep in between meals during the day.
00:45:12.420
Except your bed has to be made and kept inspection ready between the hours of 7 and 5.
00:45:17.760
So now you're sleeping during the day between your meals, but you're not allowed to use your blankets, and you have to be in your full uniform.
00:45:28.100
Yeah, I remember when I was in jail for the short stint that I was, they don't turn those lights off like until really late.
00:45:39.340
The fluorescent bulbs, if you're on the top bunk, I was on the top bunk, the fluorescent bulbs on the top bunk, meaning right in front of your eyes, turn on like something crazy, like 3 or 4 a.m.
00:45:49.980
And then they just stay on, which I found the workaround was I would just take a tube sock and lay it across my eyes.
00:45:54.980
But it's all like weird psychological torture games.
00:45:59.560
Prison was really just full of a bunch of stupid and inconvenient rules.
00:46:05.780
Something as simple as wanting to use the good shower that had water pressure required maximum manipulation.
00:46:23.520
I'm wrapped up in this story, and now I feel like...
00:46:34.320
Dude, I feel like I am plowing through this story.
00:46:51.600
The guards pretty much just leave you alone, though, in confinement.
00:46:55.460
They just have to walk through every 30 minutes, and then you got counted.
00:47:00.340
And then you got counted at various times of the day as well.
00:47:03.700
After being there for two weeks by myself, they put this girl in the cell with me.
00:47:07.540
I had learned to occupy myself at this point, and the routine, and had a routine I was trying
00:47:15.080
And having a bunkie in confinement can go really well, or it can be the worst thing that's
00:47:22.180
As Zeman says, I'm plowing through this story, Raven, on paragraph two.
00:47:25.280
That's how I feel when I'm just reading in general.
00:47:28.560
And it's like, this is literally just the introduction of the book.
00:47:34.460
I can imagine that having a bunkie could either go really well or really, really horrifying.
00:47:39.380
That makes a lot of sense, especially in solitary confinement.
00:47:41.240
I imagine you could probably end up killing a person, being locked in a room with them
00:47:47.800
I had the first few Game of Thrones books I had read, and I had this origami book I was
00:47:56.620
Keep in mind, the entire two weeks, the officers don't have any issues from me.
00:48:00.980
So, they put this lady in my cell, and she's like a tiny bag of bones, like 100 pounds.
00:48:05.160
When they are opening your cell, they have this whole process where you have to go stand
00:48:09.980
in the back of the cell with your hands behind your back and face the wall as they bring in
00:48:15.900
They don't even have this girl's cuffs on, and she's already asking me if I believe in
00:48:26.180
I'm immediately annoyed because that's a many-layered question that you don't start out with.
00:48:32.020
Especially when they're just putting you in there.
00:48:33.140
You don't just come into some random person's cell who hasn't spoken to another human in
00:48:36.780
weeks and immediately get right in her face with that.
00:48:39.120
Or maybe that's exactly what you get in their face with.
00:48:44.820
She said she hadn't even taken the cuffs off yet, and the girl's already chatting her
00:48:53.620
It's not even that it was like a conversation I wasn't open to having.
00:48:57.560
This was a girl who was in the process of going into psychosis because, of course, after
00:49:02.220
everything that had just happened, then they would put a girl in my cell who immediately
00:49:07.620
decided that God had sent her to that cell to save me.
00:49:12.240
She starts telling me she's here for me and that she loves me and Jesus loves me, and
00:49:18.700
Keep in mind, this is a small two-man cell with two metal beds attached to the wall, and
00:49:25.000
next to one of the beds, my bed, my bed, bitch, is also the toilet sink.
00:49:34.540
I'm hoping she just means like there's a sink and a toilet and not that she's-
00:49:41.600
So why did the- why did that girl go into the- she didn't explain why, right?
00:49:50.220
A very small window there, too, but you can't see much out of it because it's this weird
00:49:59.140
Like they had it- it's like painted with something, yeah.
00:50:01.880
Um, and the door, which has a tiny square window on it, and the rectangle hatch that the food
00:50:10.620
When they bring you- when they first bring you in, they take forever to bring your property
00:50:15.720
Uh, that includes your bedding and blankets and clothes, so you're just sitting in a freezing
00:50:22.360
Uh, in the first hour, this girl slowly walked towards me.
00:50:25.400
I was sitting on my bed learning to make an origami kangaroo.
00:50:34.560
At this point, we had, uh, finally- just finally exchanged greetings.
00:50:39.060
She kept looking at me and saying, Heather, look at me.
00:50:45.880
Uh, and my dumb ass feeling uncomfortable as hell and not knowing what to do, all awkward,
00:50:57.460
And she's saying it like she's talking to a little girl, and she's bending down in my
00:51:01.180
face and kind of saying it, uh, and I'm thinking to myself, what the fuck is happening right
00:51:08.680
And she starts saying, I love you to me in baby talk.
00:51:17.840
There was a lot of religious psychosis going on in that prison, yet another story.
00:51:22.680
Um, it's like only the first 45 minutes of time with her, and it's complete chaos.
00:51:34.200
She didn't have a bad voice, but stuff like that makes me uncomfortable.
00:51:39.000
I mean, that's pretty- yeah, being locked in a cell for two weeks alone and then having
00:51:42.560
a 100-pound woman, uh, enter and start singing to me in the first 45 minutes also makes me
00:52:02.820
She doesn't have a bad voice, but it's making me uncomfortable.
00:52:05.840
Even having Happy Birthday sung to me makes me feel awkward because I have to sit there
00:52:09.800
and smile while all these people sing a song to me.
00:52:12.600
It is a little bit, uh, uncomfortable to have that happen.
00:52:15.640
Then, when they stop singing, it's like, okay, that made me feel bad, actually, but
00:52:20.000
no one is allowed to actually acknowledge that.
00:52:22.040
I think that if David was a girl, his name would be Heather.
00:52:34.700
Um, oh, well, the- the- the things that I find awkward, yeah.
00:52:38.300
Yeah, I don't like- Happy Birthday is one that I feel like is awkward, um, so anyway,
00:52:48.400
Uh, one of those things about prison is if you don't know how to tell people no or shut
00:52:52.800
the fuck up, they're gonna get away with whatever they want.
00:52:57.960
Yeah, it took me a long time to learn that because I was raised by women, uh, and- and
00:53:02.740
so it was- I didn't learn that until I was like- until I was a father.
00:53:06.160
Oh, yeah, people think I'm rude now when I just be like, no.
00:53:11.220
Like, you can't say no in that situation and I just said no.
00:53:15.200
It's- you know when you go on, like, uh, TikTok and women are like, I'm protecting my peace.
00:53:26.720
That's like whenever my son starts doing things that I'm gonna, like, get upset.
00:53:35.340
Uh, you- but you also have to learn to be patient as well, and as much as I wanted to
00:53:42.560
tell this girl to shut up, I understood I was likely going to be stuck with her for at
00:53:47.300
Eventually she- after she calmed down, I tried to explain to her, you can't just come into
00:53:54.160
She was still fairly new to prison and also was just a kid.
00:54:07.560
She just decided I needed to be saved and God had sent her for that purpose.
00:54:12.360
Some time had gone by, and when we would talk, she would make passive-aggressive comments
00:54:20.160
She told me about how she was, uh, bought to confinement for repeatedly telling her dorm
00:54:28.180
sergeant that she rebukes him in the name of Jesus.
00:54:31.800
Um, I start to wonder why the officer hadn't tried to put her in psych rather, uh, than
00:54:38.980
They still haven't bought the girl, uh, her property or her bedding, and she's laying on
00:54:46.660
She only has a short sleeve prison blues on since she's new, and I feel bad for her, even
00:54:53.720
though she's getting on my nerves, and I have been in her position, uh, and have been in
00:54:57.460
her position, though, and I have an extra thermals, so I give her a thermal shirt.
00:55:03.700
She puts it on, and I tell her she can have it.
00:55:06.260
She says, thank you, and lays there on her bed.
00:55:09.060
A few minutes of silence go by, and I go back to making my origami kangaroo.
00:55:14.000
Suddenly, the girl gets up, takes the shirt back off, and actually throws it at me.
00:55:21.880
It was like, get this shit away from me, type of thing.
00:55:31.180
See, I'm, I'm concerned about the punctuation still.
00:55:34.300
Oh, yeah, the lowercase g god might be, uh, on purpose.
00:55:37.860
Heather says in the chat she was in her early 20s.
00:55:43.060
Right, yeah, I look at, I look at, uh, yeah, I look at people in their early 20s, and I say,
00:55:49.460
Um, and I was a little surprised by this, because it's really cold in there.
00:55:55.320
Nothing I have ever experienced has prepared me for this.
00:55:58.000
So I calmly pick up the thermal, fold it, put it on her foot, uh, on the foot of her bed,
00:56:03.440
and say, okay, but if you decide you want it, it's here.
00:56:06.520
And I go back to my bed, make my fucking origami kangaroo, and the shirt hits me in the back
00:56:14.400
of the head as I'm sitting down, and she yells at me, my god keeps me warm, and curls herself
00:56:24.620
I really want to explain to her that my compassion and desire to do the right thing by offering
00:56:29.480
her my thermal was how her god was trying to keep her warm.
00:56:41.640
I don't really understand how in the course of an hour or so she went from singing to me
00:56:52.500
I didn't even know what I believed, and I would have loved for somebody to save me, but
00:56:59.300
Eventually, the guards bring her stuff, and she makes her bed and has a blanket, but now
00:57:08.600
She hasn't been in prison long enough to have acquired anything.
00:57:11.660
She had her uniform, ketchup mustard packets, church pamphlets, and her Bible.
00:57:17.560
Ketchup, mustard packets, these are things that...
00:57:20.040
Yeah, like I remember when I was in jail, you know, they give you like these really shitty
00:57:24.260
bologna sandwiches, and it's really just like white bread with bologna.
00:57:28.340
Well, like I didn't have mustard, but like somebody else had mustard, and they gave it
00:57:34.580
I think it's because he wanted me to join like his white gang or something like that,
00:57:40.680
He gave me mustard, and he gave me a National Geographics magazine, which I read from cover
00:57:45.040
to cover, and that mustard like changed the bologna sandwich game, because you're eating
00:57:53.220
So putting the mustard packet on there was like...
00:57:57.240
I never even realized like this truly is the perfect amount of mustard.
00:58:01.140
Like in that little rectangular pack within it is the perfect amount of mustard.
00:58:04.680
Only when you live a life of decadence do you need more mustard than what is in the
00:58:30.580
I lost my spot, and I'm really freaking out right now.
00:58:34.660
So they bought her the ketchup, the mustard packets, church pamphlets, and her Bible.
00:58:38.560
She started telling me I had the devil in me, and I was trying to talk to her rationally.
00:58:44.260
I'm really getting upset, though, at this point, because it's been a few hours, and like
00:58:47.980
I said, you stay up all night, and this girl was getting more and more aggressive with her
00:58:52.700
speech and rude and exclaiming all about how my life got turned upside and all about
00:59:06.280
I'm starting to have anxiety, and she can't just be quiet.
00:59:14.040
And there is a difference between if someone is reading quietly aloud to themselves.
00:59:20.160
Some people need to read out loud to retain what they are reading, and there is a way
00:59:31.140
Then there's aggressive reading the Bible at someone in a commanding tone.
00:59:36.280
But there's really no way that I can say anything or ask for help without being the one who
00:59:45.740
These people haven't heard a peep from me in weeks.
00:59:52.740
This girl is pacing the cell, reading the Bible out loud, and one point she perches herself on the sink like a fucking owl or pterodactyl.
01:00:12.460
Well, when you have nothing to do for five to seven years, you, like, read and stuff.
01:00:19.940
She perches up on her toes, holding her Bible, reading passages at me in this small, tiny, confined space.
01:00:41.720
We're giving her too much power, and she's abusing it.
01:00:52.300
So, in this confined space, she's on the sink, and she's reading like an owl from the Bible.
01:00:56.300
At this point, I'm standing at the door to the cell, and I've had my poker face on this whole thing.
01:01:01.720
I think it's because Nancy knows this is lengthy.
01:01:04.760
I mean, honestly, she's doing us a favor, because if not, this will be a two-episode, or this will be promises to Thomas's.
01:01:16.660
I'm being really passive about this girl, but the officers have to make their rounds every 30 minutes, and when they do, I bang on the door.
01:01:25.800
I don't like how each progressive time we've cut to talk, it's been shorter and shorter.
01:01:30.540
Yeah, it's like she's hitting the button more rapidly.
01:01:35.140
And I tell them they have to put this girl somewhere else.
01:01:40.840
She is making me uncomfortable, and of course, it's not received well.
01:01:46.280
I'm not just going to tell them to move her, and nothing I say sounds logical.
01:01:51.460
They ask me what she's doing to upset me, and I'm having a bit of a look of shock, or a bit of lock shock.
01:01:59.180
Yeah, it's kind of like where you're like, well, I get it, yeah.
01:02:02.320
Which is, when you do talk to people, finally, you talk fast, and you sound hysterical.
01:02:09.640
And I was like, she keeps rebuking me in the name of Satan and reading the Bible at me, and she's sitting on the sink.
01:02:18.720
And the girl suddenly wants to get all offended and upset that I don't want to be in a cell with her.
01:02:23.900
So she goes and sits on the bed like, hey, what are you talking about?
01:02:32.960
And of course, now I feel like maybe I made a mistake.
01:02:35.500
I hurt the girl's feelings because I fall for that shit every time.
01:02:39.560
This person I know, I barely know, just made me feel suicidal empathy.
01:02:47.700
And I second-guess everything that just happened, and the officers don't want to hear it.
01:02:52.920
So now I'm back to trying to get along with this little girl again.
01:03:04.200
The officers talk to her and act like I'm just being immature and don't want to hear her read the Bible.
01:03:12.080
And even the girl has enough sense to be like, I didn't do anything.
01:03:26.860
And then you're like, the kid is trying to kill the cat!
01:03:28.800
And then the kid's like, what are you talking about?
01:03:40.160
Wait, I was pissed off this shit got turned around on me.
01:03:43.100
But maybe this will be better now that they spoke to her.
01:03:49.900
At some point after the girl was sitting on her bed, I go back to what I was doing, origami kangaroos.
01:03:55.200
She snaps her Bible shut really loud, on purpose loud, and says, I'm just going to have to do this myself, even if it takes all night.
01:04:09.300
And what makes it worse is that she can easily overpower this girl, I feel like.
01:04:18.820
But I wouldn't even want to mess with it, because it's just like.
01:04:21.360
Well, it's like, if you do assault her, you're ruined.
01:04:25.720
But it's just like the imposing fear of what this girl is doing psychologically.
01:04:34.180
Two weeks without human interaction, and then you get the sink owl.
01:04:55.040
Her intention being that she was going to save my soul no matter what.
01:05:02.520
The next few hours, she proceeded to chant Bible verses at me nonstop.
01:05:17.620
When you are stuck in a small cell with someone, you guys have no food.
01:05:26.240
Bible verses are being aggressively chanted at you.
01:05:37.560
The type of anxiety that makes you steal catalytic converters.
01:05:40.860
And I was also at this point in my life where the place I was, the Bible was used by people more as a drug.
01:05:55.640
And I would eventually find my way to where I needed to be.
01:05:59.660
But right now, in that moment, during these few hours, it was just me trapped in a cell.
01:06:15.260
I can't explain what it's like to circle someone for hours in a tiny concrete cell, not breaking eye contact while they chant at you.
01:06:25.200
This literally is like the scene where, like, Saruman and Gandalf are fighting in the tower.
01:06:31.660
Shout out to all the Lord of the Rings and Joyers out there.
01:06:43.700
Because I was getting upset and having a panic attack and my heart was pounding and I was shaking and cursing at this girl to shut the fuck up, she thought her exorcism was working.
01:06:55.240
So the more you react, the more it validates her, the more convicted she is.
01:07:05.000
Honestly, my mom has gotten me to the point where, like, with this almost the same techniques has go to me and to be like, you know what?
01:07:25.960
I was like, well, now I'm going to tell you racial slurs.
01:07:35.000
And it seems like that's what her cellmate wants.
01:07:39.800
I don't like the story, but I like where it's going.
01:07:46.040
It was dark at this point, too, because it was nighttime.
01:07:52.440
This girl had thrown holy toilet water at me and had her blanket draped over her head.
01:08:08.920
And she's chanting over and over, I'm banging on the cell door because I've had enough and I want the officers to come by.
01:08:28.920
Not only am I banging on my cell door, but the other inmates in their cells are also banging on the doors.
01:08:37.440
They hear us yelling, so they know some shit is going on.
01:08:40.920
The officers come by once again, and I end up looking like the one who is the problem.
01:08:47.300
Because every single time the officers come by, the girl knows to shut up and stop trying to exercise me.
01:08:56.980
I'm at the cell door, and the officers are on the opposite side of the door, and I'm talking to them through the window.
01:09:03.380
This stupid little girl is sitting in the blind spot in the corner on the bed.
01:09:09.100
I have the officers in the door window to my left, and then to my right corner is the girl sitting there with her blanket over her head in the dark with her Bible open,
01:09:18.240
mouthing the Bible words at me with that fire in her eyes looking like some horror movie exorcist.
01:09:23.800
She whispers at me, and I can hear the conviction in her voice and the belief that she was really, or that she really thought she was rebuking me in the news.
01:09:36.660
I'm shaking, my heart is pounding, and the guards can't see her, and she's not actually making noises.
01:10:14.440
They take the girl out of the cell and put her in the shower cell, which they are going to use as a holding cell,
01:10:23.140
There's a main pod for the officers in the middle of all the pods, so that's where the officers mostly go to hide.
01:10:29.240
The whole time they were gone, they had left this girl in the shower cell, and she stood there and continues to chant at me in the cell facing my direction.
01:10:37.220
I was planning on them not having her come back in.
01:10:42.180
She's really standing there with her face pressed up against the bars.
01:10:50.600
They are different than the confinement cell doors.
01:10:52.820
And saying exorcism verses in my direction, and everyone in their cells is yelling at her because it's the middle of the night,
01:11:00.480
and even though they're all awake because they're hungry too, they still want her to shut the fuck up.
01:11:10.740
This is once again being handled like I just didn't like that she was reading the Bible.
01:11:16.600
But also they were telling her, didn't we talk about this?
01:11:22.580
Which means they also knew she was causing a problem.
01:11:29.000
I was really freaked out by now and started accusing them of putting her in there on purpose to fuck with me.
01:11:35.740
They were freaked out by me and saying to each other they did see my face, how fucking scared I was.
01:11:50.020
Yeah, please, take this over. I'm dying over here.
01:11:56.200
Alright, that's us. That's our button to switch.
01:12:08.980
I started thinking about all the exorcist movies I'd watch
01:12:13.560
and figured, uh, maybe the reason people started shaking and cursing during the exorcism
01:12:19.400
is they're enraged by the inconvenience they feel by having biblical commands shouted at you non-stop
01:12:26.000
and you can't get away from it while someone throws water on you.
01:12:36.080
Because, like, if we're here and someone's reading it to us, we'd be like,
01:12:44.260
Like, let's say somebody heard too many F-bombs in this episode
01:12:47.280
and was like, I think I need an exorcism intervention.
01:12:53.640
Yeah. How long would we endure it before we started throwing hands?
01:13:00.540
Yeah. So, you can't get away from it while someone throws water on you.
01:13:12.060
Yeah. Like how Mother Horse Eyes just, like, randomly transitions.
01:13:17.220
I used to throw up in the church as a kid and I used to get these migraines and we would leave early.
01:13:22.900
So, for a while after, I would wonder, though, if there was something to this whole thing.
01:13:29.780
This is a very... I like how she tells this story.
01:13:34.620
Well, because she's not completely dismissing it, right?
01:13:37.400
I like that. For those... For the audience, we just had, like, rolling thunder as soon as the music picked up again.
01:13:46.320
She's not dismissing it. She's come to terms with what happened here.
01:13:49.320
I just like the way the story's being laid out.
01:13:53.100
And thank you, Nancy, for pushing us to read... Pushing David to read this story.
01:14:03.420
Huh. So, if there was something to this whole thing, the way it affected me, but also this girl was crazy, is what she's saying.
01:14:11.020
Yeah, she's wondering, are these things related?
01:14:16.580
She had become violent and was throwing things at me, chanting, calling me a devil.
01:14:21.240
I was cursing her, throwing things back, like it's her origami.
01:14:25.220
And like I said, in prison time movies... In prison time... In prison, time moves slow.
01:14:40.860
Time doesn't exist in there the way it does out here.
01:14:44.760
It's like the hyperbolic time chamber. That's really...
01:14:53.880
And I remember hearing all the echoes of everyone else banging on the doors.
01:15:02.360
You can smash her head on the toilet and say she came after you.
01:15:14.760
No, but I'm saying like, if this story got out and she said this, like if she was like,
01:15:18.380
and that's when I slammed her face against the toilet till she stopped moving.
01:15:22.680
And I served an additional 10 years and I'm here to tell you about it because I murdered that woman.
01:15:30.140
Honestly, it feels like this is what she's being asked to do.
01:15:42.560
I think, I guess it was a confessional about a dude that had one of these intrusive thoughts.
01:15:48.620
And it said that it asked him to kill his roommate.
01:15:55.140
And he said like immediately after the roommate comes in and he's like, I got to like leave and go for a walk.
01:16:01.640
So he goes and she blocks him and they get into an argument, which is strange.
01:16:15.000
Well, I'm saying not getting to that point until now.
01:16:19.960
I'm just saying, even if she killed her right now, it's like, damn, took her eight hours.
01:16:30.540
Well, I mean, we're towards the end of it, Nancy.
01:16:40.860
I remember the thought crossing my mind that she could smash her.
01:16:43.960
They would investigate, but how would they know?
01:16:47.060
I have never felt that kind of desperation in my life to have a thought like that cross my mind.
01:16:56.640
Yeah, looking back on this now, that's really messed up.
01:17:00.700
But also, when you're there, your mind is in a different accepted reality.
01:17:05.320
I still can't believe how far this has all come from me getting beat up in the bathroom by Izzy a few weeks ago.
01:17:17.400
The girl doesn't seem to be getting tired, either.
01:17:23.900
But I like the idea of Nancy kind of giving us the go-ahead, because I don't know.
01:17:32.800
And she's right, because several points now, when she gave us elevator music, if she hadn't done it the first time, the second time, the third time, we wouldn't be where we are right now.
01:17:41.140
This is also probably like, these are the points where we'd be getting comments.
01:17:45.600
Yeah, and also, we would turn this into a two-day thing.
01:17:53.900
I've never felt that kind of desperation in my life.
01:17:59.500
I've never thought across my mind, but when you're there, your mind is different in a different accepted reality.
01:18:09.920
Actually, that's probably more realistic rules than what we live in with Costco and all that stuff.
01:18:17.680
I think the Earth has been populated with stimuli, and this is void of it.
01:18:22.960
What makes time pass faster is stimuli, and this is like, no, you get concrete walls.
01:18:27.740
I like to listen to, and sometimes y'all do go on such a long tangent or a bunch of tangents, and I'd be getting a little tired.
01:18:45.320
Anyway, I can't believe how far this has come in the few weeks since getting beat up by Izzy.
01:18:49.560
I start to think about what's going on to be like to try to sleep with this girl in here if this ever stops or if I even feel safe.
01:18:58.460
It's a little absurd thinking back about how I was afraid of her coming after me while I slept, but also desperate enough to consider hurting her as well.
01:19:16.520
I had already explained to the officers it doesn't make sense for them to put her in here when I'm the only...
01:19:24.880
When only in here because I got jumped by her bigger, crazier auntie, now they put another crazy person in here to finish me off.
01:19:39.860
And the officer says to me, you'd be willing to move?
01:19:59.460
So they go, they say this, like, well, why didn't you say you wanted to move?
01:20:07.520
They take the girl and they cuff her and they put her back in that shower holding cell thingy.
01:20:13.620
While I pack up all my stuff and move it to the cell a few doors away on the opposite wall.
01:20:20.560
So when the doors were shut, we could still see each other through our little door windows.
01:20:25.780
They put me in the new cell with another girl who, it turns out, had been in PC for, like, three months.
01:20:39.440
I think she's, like, using it interchangeably depending on...
01:20:45.380
I think she said it before, but it's escaping me right now.
01:20:57.820
It's scary when we wait for her to speak and...
01:21:16.020
So she'd been trying to get them to let her back on the compound and general population,
01:21:23.280
She's really cool, and I'm in such shock after what happened, and she's also surprised
01:21:28.920
and hasn't talked to anyone in forever, and we become immediate friends.
01:21:32.640
I give her coffee, secret stash of instant coffee.
01:21:41.920
She hadn't had any in weeks, and I tell her all about my crazy night and what was going
01:21:50.300
We both have that lock shock thing I had mentioned earlier, so we're both talking nonstop, basically
01:22:02.560
Two women just like, gacked out on butt coffee.
01:22:10.200
Yeah, which wasn't far off because it had already been most of the night in the cell with the
01:22:15.600
Oh, Heather says they hide tobacco in their butts, not my coffee.
01:22:23.920
I mean, you have no concept of time, either, I assume, because...
01:22:33.480
Well, all they have is a window that can show some light, and you can tell when it's light
01:22:38.040
and dark out, so I guess they're just basing it off of the guard's schedule, maybe?
01:22:54.040
Yeah, they've been up all night talking with the other girl.
01:23:03.620
They spend time peeking out of that door window at the other cell.
01:23:08.220
That little girl stood in the window and chanted for the remaining time.
01:23:13.320
All I could see were the whites of her eyes, and I could see her mouth moving, and it was
01:23:19.640
People in other cells would periodically yell at her to shut up.
01:23:22.720
She just kept saying her Bible verses in my direction.
01:23:27.380
Now that I wasn't there with her, I'm laughing about it with my new confinement friend hysterically.
01:23:31.780
I'm relieved, but I still can't believe everything that just happened.
01:23:36.000
Some time comes by, and it's like 5 a.m., and the breakfast carts come around.
01:23:43.720
It's a totally new shift now that's here, so they don't know about anything that went on.
01:23:52.560
And breakfast is always the better of the food we get.
01:23:55.820
They make their way to the cell of the other girl and go ask if she wants her tray, and
01:24:00.240
they look in, and instead of saying, you want your tray?
01:24:41.420
They direct the workers to keep passing out the trays, and they get the other officers
01:24:49.320
We can just keep saying things to her like, why are you naked?
01:24:58.240
Why are you flushing Bible papers down the toilet?
01:25:00.700
She's using it to back up the toilet so that she can have a baptism.
01:25:07.760
Then they turned the water off to the entire unit because it turned out she tried to flush
01:25:11.400
her Bible down the toilet and clogged it and flooded her cell.
01:25:20.320
I washed my daughter's clothes, and for some reason she had the little New Testament Bible
01:25:28.180
Yeah, I got to either wash all the clothes or something.
01:25:30.360
But this thing disintegrated to the spine, and now I feel like I've done something really
01:25:38.880
You know how Matt came over and he was like, I don't like those little rubber Jesuses.
01:25:42.220
I like the little rubber Jesuses, and I like the little tiny pocket Bibles.
01:25:46.000
By the way, we're going to be doing the Bible study with Matt, hopefully Wednesdays.
01:25:51.140
Maybe we'll talk about the schedule for this Saturday, but Wednesdays, we're going to try.
01:25:59.060
So, they turned off the water to the unit because she clogged and flooded her cell.
01:26:04.820
She was naked, smeared all the condiments she had with her.
01:26:08.800
Remember, she had a bunch of ketchup packets and mustard packets.
01:26:11.460
She smeared them all over the walls, and she kept saying, none of it's real, and telling
01:26:21.660
They kept trying to convince her to put her clothes on so she could talk to the mental
01:26:48.780
So, they were going to put her in a, where is she at?
01:26:51.640
A turtle suit and go on psych watch, but she refused to cooperate.
01:26:57.640
They ended up having to call in the extraction team to go into her cell, get her dressed,
01:27:04.240
Now, the extraction team is like six officers that put on riot gear pads, helmet shields.
01:27:09.020
They march straight in, uh, uh, they march in a straight line, one behind the other.
01:27:13.760
They hold on, uh, they hold on to the one in front of them.
01:27:18.260
And the one in the very front holds this huge riot shield as they barge into the cell and
01:27:32.860
They even have, uh, have to have the lieutenant or a captain come in with a full video camera
01:27:37.240
and recording the whole thing because it's got to be on camera.
01:27:40.080
I'm sure like the legal complications with, uh, beating the shit out of a naked woman.
01:27:46.440
So, better record it all for your protection and mine.
01:27:49.640
The lieutenant says into the video camera, let it be known inmate, insert name here, was
01:27:54.520
given several chances to leave the cell on her own and refuse.
01:27:59.040
Then the team marches into her cell behind their huge riot shield.
01:28:01.980
Remember, this little girl weighs like a hundred pounds and six big ass guards in apocalypse
01:28:08.540
gear go in there and put her, uh, and put her dress.
01:28:12.820
We get this stupid dress thing to wear to bed when you first get to prison or if you don't
01:28:18.600
ever get to your own shit like it's this ugly blue potato sack.
01:28:22.500
Um, so they put her dress on her forcibly and cuffed her and took her away.
01:28:27.780
I like the idea of sending dudes in riot gear in to get you dressed.
01:28:40.160
The next night when the other shift came in and the officers who acted like I was a
01:28:44.160
problem saw that she was in the psych, in psych now, felt great satisfaction.
01:28:49.340
This whole chain of events really messed me up psychologically.
01:28:54.620
Actually, the entire prison experience did that.
01:28:59.540
But I think, uh, about that whole thing now just because I used to make jokes about it
01:29:06.460
and think that it was funny that her exorcism backfired and bounced back at her.
01:29:11.280
But now that my beliefs are different, I'm really confused.
01:29:18.100
I know I have family demons and I have been targeted at times.
01:29:22.760
Please let me know if you have any follow-up prison questions.
01:29:26.580
I have a lot of weird stories and no one to tell them to.
01:29:29.960
Also, didn't mean to offend anyone by my crazy schizo references.
01:29:34.420
It's just easier to not be politically correct.
01:29:38.280
For now, she's doing frying chicken at Pathmark.
01:29:41.820
I've been home for a few years, but in a lot of ways, I feel like I never left.
01:29:46.860
That's what happened when I went to Florida to go to rehab and ended up in prison for a long time.
01:29:58.720
Man, I'm fascinated by the idea that you would get migraines and throw up in the church.
01:30:07.340
I almost feel like you weren't getting a baptism as much as you were...
01:30:12.860
I mean, an exorcism as much as you were getting something trying to put you off
01:30:35.260
And it seems that you're affected from childhood.
01:30:38.360
And then, of course, having the drug addiction issue where you go to rehab,
01:30:42.600
it seems like you probably were targeted from an early age.
01:30:46.980
And then to have this experience where somebody claiming to be a representative of Christ
01:30:53.580
is doing nothing but really twisting this situation,
01:30:59.720
you could have easily taken that experience and said,
01:31:13.000
I mean, it sounds like that lady needed an exorcism.
01:31:15.140
I don't think that God wants you to spread your mustard and ketchup packets on the wall
01:31:22.480
Or, you know, maybe when you don't have much to work with
01:31:26.740
and all you have is a toilet and a couple of packets of stuff.
01:31:38.080
Yeah, and none of that seemed humble in spirit.
01:31:54.080
To me, it feels more like something that was meant to keep you from looking at that.
01:32:00.140
Keeping you from looking at Jesus Christ as a viable option.
01:32:15.860
Go and mouth off to her about the quality of the chicken.
01:32:24.420
That sounded like you did get wrapped into a situation with some sort of weird demonic presence, man.
01:32:39.920
Anyone with crazy stories can always tell them to a Christian addiction recovery group.
01:32:46.980
If you have anything else that you'd like to share with us, Heather,
01:32:49.220
you've already elevated yourself to one of my favorite people.
01:32:54.800
Actually, this actually gives me a good idea of what Paul says.
01:32:58.680
They have those recovery meetings at the coffee shop in the morning.
01:33:06.700
Why would you go to New Jersey, by the way, Heather?
01:33:08.940
Oh, well, I know there's recovery places in Florida.
01:33:14.480
I was like friends with people in New Jersey who were getting shipped out to Florida to go to rehab.
01:33:25.000
But, Nancy, is there another video, another story that is shorter?
01:33:44.220
I was born in New Jersey, went to Florida because they spin it as recovered promised land.
01:33:52.840
Yeah, it's like the place where you're supposed to go to get clean.
01:33:59.440
There's a place in Florida where you're really going to get your shit together.
01:34:02.100
And I've known people that were like real deep, you know, heroin, all kinds of opioids.
01:34:08.960
I don't think that there's a place that you're going to go that's going to be this, like, beautiful – I mean, maybe.
01:34:18.320
It's like you leave the dreariness and the shittiness of New Jersey, and you go to a beautiful place where the weather is tremendous, and you're going to the beach, and you're doing all these different activities and such.
01:34:27.380
And, like, it's like the – it's like the Rat City experiments where they're giving the rats cocaine, and they keep opting for the cocaine, and they're like, yeah, see, rats will just choose cocaine because it's addictive.
01:34:40.920
And it's like not if you put stimuli around them.
01:34:43.140
So if you make a beautiful environment where there's tons to play with and other rats to engage with and food and interesting things, they don't choose the cocaine.
01:34:50.720
I think Florida is like what that guy Topher was saying.
01:34:55.200
So it's a space where what I've noticed is you come here, and it'll make or break you.
01:35:01.820
Like, I was already on a weird entrepreneurial route.
01:35:10.380
But I think if you come here and you're doing some weird stuff, like, it'll feed on that, too, and then you'll be bulls deep in some –
01:35:20.180
But like I said, I think it's like you get out of that dreariness of New Jersey, and all of a sudden there's, like, this beautiful tropical place with –
01:35:27.060
the beach is wonderful, and there's so much – you know, I think it's kind of that, too.
01:35:40.720
I know, and Nancy has given us a – oh, I would love for Nancy to read the definition.
01:35:47.040
And it doesn't matter what you want to do, Nancy.
01:35:51.820
Greetings, whoever you are, you mysterious man, you.
01:35:54.600
It's 3 a.m. as of writing this, and I'm going to tell you some messed up stuff.
01:36:00.800
I am fighting a bad porn addiction, and I mean bad Nephilim porn type stuff.
01:36:10.940
I thought you were going to say, reach out to us on Twitter.
01:36:17.440
100% he wants you to – guys, remember when I said Elon wants you to jerk off to his
01:36:20.940
AI representation or his anime representation of Grok?
01:36:24.420
He is now posting it dressed in, like, thongs and shit.
01:36:28.020
Yeah, every day he's posting, like, look at the outfit that she's got now.
01:36:42.820
He said he's three months without watching it, but then –
01:36:45.960
Like, you're scrolling Twitter, which is now the source for everything.
01:36:52.340
And every so often, you've got the guy that's manipulating the algorithm showing you anime –
01:37:08.820
Look, I haven't told anyone this, but my wife wants.
01:37:17.580
But I'm writing this on the off chance of advice resolving this, or at least letting someone else with this problem know they are not alone.
01:37:34.360
I think a lot of these things, it's like if you can get it off your chest.
01:37:37.480
Like, anytime I've been, like, getting too carried around with alcohol or something like that, like, saying it out loud in any capacity helps a lot.
01:37:45.840
If you don't say it out loud, it makes it that much easier to hide from yourself, which is hugely problematic.
01:37:51.580
It's a principle that – what's his name? – laughed at me about when I'm going to say his name on the show.
01:37:59.440
But he's like, oh, you're just saying it so that you're adding external pressure to other people.
01:38:09.360
And, look, the external pressure thing is true.
01:38:11.800
If I say, I'm tired of this place, I'm tired of this job, I want to leave this job, I want to go to Florida, I want to be, you know, a content creator, if I say it out loud and I tell it to people, there's a higher likelihood of me holding myself to it.
01:38:54.960
It's a paraphilia characterized by the erotic desire to be consumed by or to personally consume another person or creature.
01:39:09.440
I didn't know you can derive sexual gratification from that.
01:39:20.700
So, he is a vorophyllac, someone who enjoys content with the theme of a female predator eating other beings whole.
01:39:33.400
Well, that's interesting because I remember I told you I'm playing that Resident Evil game.
01:39:51.420
And there's a lot of people on the internet that are like, yeah, big Nephilim milkers.
01:40:00.300
Like, people love her in that game, Resident Evil 8.
01:40:05.140
There's a large variety of this content from furry and gay stuff, same size beings eating each other, or giants eating smaller beings.
01:40:15.240
In recent years, AI can make all the demonic content you want.
01:40:29.720
It is quite literally the biggest source of shame in my life, which I think is part of it.
01:40:38.780
The more shame, the more unredeemable you feel.
01:40:46.720
It's about making you feel like an unredeemable piece of shit, which is untrue.
01:40:54.320
And then from that episode, which I guess the guy's listening now, but it'll be released soon, with Kingdom in Context, where he's talking to us about the spiral, the maze.
01:41:04.100
Yeah, by the way, in Resident Evil 8, there's a lot of spirals, and even specifically labyrinths.
01:41:12.600
It's like, you have traversed this maze, this labyrinth, to the point where you are now within the city walls, and you feel like it's unredeemable.
01:41:23.580
It's just like, repent, ask for forgiveness, admit to God what you've done, ask him to forgive you, and it's a very strange...
01:41:34.320
They yelled it outside of the cities of Jericho.
01:41:47.580
But no, dude, you're nailing it, though, on that aspect of it's all about the shame and the more unredeemable you feel.
01:41:54.860
I realize that I enjoy this stuff as soon as I reach puberty.
01:42:03.880
In the beginning, there was a scene with an alien woman who eats a man whole and has an enlarged stomach.
01:42:12.600
Hey, Nancy, can you bring up the alien lady from Men in Black 2?
01:42:32.280
And would you believe that I felt a new feeling I never had?
01:42:38.100
That that's your, you know, your arousal moment is a lady from...
01:42:53.080
Because, you know, when I saw that scene, I kind of remember it.
01:43:03.540
These things are set out there as, like, little landmines and traps.
01:43:07.080
Yeah, little things that seem, like, kind of innocuous if it's not your thing.
01:43:17.540
He seems like a kind of dude that would be into this.
01:43:23.660
Well, I mean, look, if you think about the history of just the Nephilim in general
01:43:27.800
and that whole cannibalism aspect, which obviously he's keen to when he's talking about it earlier on already in the story,
01:43:36.980
You want to talk about, like, the ability to pass on genetic memory.
01:43:41.260
Imagine one of your ancestors watching one of their loved ones be eaten alive by a thing that looks like a human.
01:43:47.220
And instead of the reaction being fear and disgust, it's...
01:43:52.640
Well, maybe it was fear and disgust, but when it gets passed down generation to generation, it gets watered down.
01:43:58.240
Then when your descendants see it, when your descendants see it, pull up the lady, Nancy.
01:44:10.080
Guys, you're going to have to go ahead and buy the new Nancy t-shirt.
01:44:12.580
Guys, buy the Nancy t-shirt so we can get her a computer because we can't get her...
01:44:18.440
But yeah, I mean, your great-great-great-grandfather might have been disturbed by watching his loved one get eaten by...
01:44:23.240
By the time that generational memory hits you and then is triggered by, you know, a sexy men in black scene, it's a powerful thing, but it manifests totally differently because of the context that you're seeing it in.
01:44:34.780
So you have a connection to it, but the context is sexual, and so it manifests sexually, and now you're doing this.
01:44:47.980
I continue to seek and consume this content, mostly shamelessly for years, in the mind of no harm, no foul.
01:44:57.040
But then I found the truth, and then came the shame of disappointing God.
01:45:02.300
To this day, I will abstain, but put a little drink into me, or put me alone for a time, and the temptation comes.
01:45:11.120
I just want to say on that thing that I just said, that really frames it in a way where it's like, you should feel, like, shameful, but, like, you shouldn't feel irredeemable.
01:45:23.320
Like, there could be a real genetic memory at play, given what our ancestors were subjected to.
01:45:29.680
You know, you think about, like, the Inca and the giants that are building the temples.
01:45:35.760
I mean, those people are watching their loved ones get devoured by gigantic men.
01:45:45.640
And so, yeah, when it comes down to you in 2020-25, all your wires, like you said, are all crossed and mixed up.
01:45:54.660
That might be less shameful than having the inclination to want to watch, like, incest stuff.
01:46:04.740
Well, the incest stuff would come from, you know, being around people that are trying to keep that bloodline.
01:46:12.740
All the traumas, especially the lustful sin traumas.
01:46:20.400
I mean, that's what they're doing to maintain their bloodline.
01:46:33.340
That gives a new meaning to uncovering your father's nakedness.
01:46:41.140
I mean, and then in Deuteronomy, when you uncover your father's nakedness, that means that you've slept with his...
01:46:46.620
Might not be your mother, but you've slept with his wife.
01:46:49.380
Because at the time, they could have had a couple, you know, many wives, but it also could mean your mother.
01:47:11.200
There are a lot of strange things that people like.
01:47:19.280
But in my case, this has to be the most weird Nephilim-like stuff to exist.
01:47:31.260
Thank God we're not doing Tower Gang anymore because we would have...
01:47:35.900
This would have been a subject for, like, weeks.
01:47:38.660
Like I'm saying, though, this has to be one of the most deeply rooted trauma-based experiences that a human can be subjected to.
01:47:47.520
It's watching another big human eat your loved ones.
01:47:51.400
This is even before the idea of having to interbreed to keep a bloodline.
01:48:11.340
It's almost like an extension of humiliation porn.
01:48:22.600
That should evoke shame in the person that is being cuckold, but it is a category of this.
01:48:41.740
Well, that's where women get all messed up with, like, the R fetishes.
01:48:50.520
It's like, that should be horrifying, but yet they're putting it in your...
01:48:55.020
Nancy looks like she reads a lot of these books.
01:49:13.600
I have began to pray at times for deliverance of this, but then weird stuff happens.
01:49:17.660
I might get a migraine or my stomach feels queasy.
01:49:19.920
Lights have flickered and other strange happenings.
01:49:22.360
I have also had dreams of these things when I've abstained and have relapsed when I awake.
01:49:37.400
I appreciate any thoughts or solution to my messed up stuff.
01:49:41.600
I have an idea for a solution for you at the very least.
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I don't know your name, but thanks for writing in.
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So, I'll look for your email in the emails, and I'm going to forward this to, like, Laura Baker, at the very least.
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I think this would be a case that she would want to look at and help you, because there's something...
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That he's tried deliverance on it, but he's gotten migraines and nauseous and shit, and then he's had dreams about it.
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So, that means it's so deep-rooted that it can become physical.
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I mean, you're not abstained of your part in all of this, but you're being...
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Now, you're the one who's ultimately giving in or not.
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Heather says, this is the type of shit you find in prison library, urban porn stories.
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So, it's interesting because, sure, I can understand the feeling of shame, but you should also have a feeling of...
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Maybe you shouldn't have it, but I would also understand the feeling of anger.
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And something doesn't want you to be free of this.
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And something is tapping into something that's probably, yeah, generational.
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I wonder if you've got anything going on in your bloodline that you'd be aware of.
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Well, for it to resonate with him so young when he's not been subjected to anything like that, and then for it to follow him...
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To me, I'm like, there's something going on, like, in the bloodline, dog.
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Like, your bloodline has been exposed to something.
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Maybe somebody in your bloodline did that thing.
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And then now it's manifesting to you as this sexual perversion.
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I didn't see people eating each other and being like, yo, that crushes.
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So, like, to me, there's something else at play here.
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And then, of course, it coming into your dreams.
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Ed Mabry said that he saw, you know, the magazine just randomly on...
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Like, a floor strewn about and his friend saw it.
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I would show up to people's houses and, like, their parents would have it in the bathrooms.
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Yeah, I'm gonna give you Dr. Laura Baker's email.
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If you're interested in a real crack at deliverance, Dr. Laura Baker helped me out when I was going
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I was, like, plagued by these repetitive, stressful dreams that eventually started to turn into
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We were supposed to record something today, and then Tap went, no.
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I was making some cool thumbnails for our new stuff.
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But, yeah, we're gonna get out of here in a second.
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Uh, if you guys didn't catch our last episode with David...
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And David just geeking out over, uh, the Pokemon cards that I found.
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Blastoise is my favorite Pokemon, and that card is my favorite card.