044： Aliens VS Jesus w⧸ Joseph G. Jordan
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 43 minutes
Words per Minute
159.17622
Summary
Joseph Jordan is a 30-year UFO investigator and member of the Mutual UFO Network. In this episode, he talks about his UFO research, his religious background, and what he believes about the UFO Phenomenon.
Transcript
00:00:00.000
In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you.
00:00:08.400
seamless streaming, and performance that won't quit.
00:00:10.820
Push your gameplay beyond performance with Intel Core Ultra Processors
00:00:15.840
Upgrade to smooth, high-quality streaming with Intel Wi-Fi 6E
00:00:19.040
and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking.
00:00:30.580
At FanDuel Casino, you get even more ways to play.
00:00:45.300
Please play responsibly, 19-plus and physically located in Ontario.
00:00:48.240
If you have questions or concerned about your gambling
00:00:51.360
please contact Connects Ontario at 1-866-531-2600
00:01:55.460
and what is really going on is absolutely true.
00:02:38.360
That is Top Lapsa, the father of disinformation.
00:02:41.900
And we are doing a little bit of an early show.
00:34:56.320
it's it's right on the money you know i was i was
00:35:03.580
free and yeah in it there's a i think there's a
00:35:12.420
passed down but there's is scriptural evidence evidence that says uh the sins
00:35:19.860
four generations even because but that's that's not a genetic
00:35:26.340
right right okay all right these are different things yeah as if like you know
00:35:31.720
and and somebody dies it says hey i got right to that next guy
00:35:35.760
and no one else is claiming him it's the father's job to claim
00:35:38.780
until somebody breaks that once the first next person breaks that
00:35:43.740
then a scripture also says now your godly line goes to a thousand generations
00:35:49.180
today's episode is brought to you by purge suddenly dot com
00:35:54.460
what if i told you that more people have died from parasites than have ever died from war
00:35:59.060
what if i told you that cancer multiple sclerosis acne rosacea and rheumatoid arthritis can all be
00:36:06.220
treated with parasite medication rid your body of these all too common parasites
00:36:11.500
purge parasite cleanse is made with ingredients like zinc
00:36:15.240
carrot powder garlic black walnut we're talking all natural ingredients that are
00:36:20.920
good for you or try their digest times to promote healthy gut bacteria and aid in
00:36:27.540
digestion these as well as any other products on purgesuddenly.com can be
00:36:31.960
purchased with promo code nephilim n-e-p-h-i-l-i-m at purgesuddenly.com
00:36:39.880
yep yeah exactly so you know david this could this ends right here for
00:36:49.960
for you and your son yeah i mean my my mother uh had uh you know struggled with these entities that
00:37:00.460
she's she's not a person that is uh religious she considers herself very scientific uh says she
00:37:07.360
doesn't believe but then will tell stories that she's like i don't know these weird things do
00:37:11.300
happen to me and it's like horrifying there's uh you know she's telling me stories of both her and
00:37:17.160
her uh her husband are hearing the footsteps of little people running through the house jiggling
00:37:24.360
doorknobs knocking things down to the point where they're they're both awake uh and you know he'll be in
00:37:31.160
the bathroom brushing his teeth she'll be in bed in the next room they know nobody else is in the house
00:37:37.180
but there's a definitive person running around and they'll both jump up and run into the hallway to see
00:37:42.820
what's going on uh so you know this is something that yeah certainly does seem to be uh generational
00:37:48.640
generational but not uh not of your genetics right this is something this is a spiritual
00:37:56.660
attachment can i ask you something joe uh joseph because we've been getting into this i don't i
00:38:02.340
don't know how far you delve into this but like there's this big question about genetics that is
00:38:08.020
getting kind of uh for me it's getting a little bit weird and uh some people are saying that if you
00:38:14.860
have these genetics that are traced back from the line of the nephilim that uh they're irredeemable but
00:38:22.260
i just i don't i'm not so sure that that's the case i don't think that in the heat of battle your
00:38:28.080
squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite gaming tech at lenovo.com dominate every
00:38:33.720
match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance that won't quit push your gameplay
00:38:38.320
beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming upgrade to smooth high
00:38:43.700
quality streaming with intel wi-fi 6e and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking
00:38:51.480
this like one drop of blood idea taints a human being or what or even defines what a human being
00:39:06.160
is i think that jesus came and covered that and there's a lot of contention here the world is
00:39:11.600
moving in that direction and we need to be really careful that we don't continue full force in that
00:39:16.840
direction because i think that's a mistake um do you do you have any idea about this
00:39:25.600
my concept of that source of information if you're taking it back to genesis 6 4
00:39:36.000
in the line of my research i think genesis 6 4 has nothing to do with what we're seeing right now
00:39:45.000
at all my interpretation of what's happened in genesis 6 4 i do not believe that we saw an offspring
00:39:55.040
from an angelic being combined with a human being there's a number of reasons for that
00:40:02.680
there's a number of scriptures you'd have to eliminate to make that actually happen
00:40:09.820
one god says he's the creator right and there's no other but if you have this union of a spiritual
00:40:21.560
being and a human being they've now created another form and that so that throws out that god's the only
00:40:29.380
creator there's a lot of things we're dealing with here that you brought up the one about can they be
00:40:35.240
redeemed well we know that these spirits cannot be redeemed scripture tells us that so that throws out
00:40:42.800
the scripture that jesus came so that all might be saved because you can't have both okay what i believe
00:40:50.880
is actually happened that makes the best sense in genesis 6 4 is that what we dealt with
00:40:58.300
was we know that these we know the ability of these beings we know that they don't have sex
00:41:09.760
they don't marry but these demonic being the demonic side is enticed by sexual activity with humans
00:41:22.000
we see incubus stories of incubus and succubus the abduction experience itself is very sexual in nature
00:41:29.320
okay so they're trying to experience this they want to experience this because they can't
00:41:36.400
how can they experience this in a spiritual form the only way that that's possible is through possession
00:41:44.100
and we know possession exists we know that that's a possibility that
00:41:49.640
people can be possessed by these entities these entities we never see any record of these entities being
00:41:58.800
here for a permanent time or in a permanent form they're a they're a remember they're a skin
00:42:06.240
with consciousness on the inside okay they can appear and perform like us but they're not us
00:42:15.780
so that mix they have no genetic they're a spiritual being so this whole thing about creating a bloodline i
00:42:23.440
think is false i think that's a a misunderstanding a misinterpretation for years and years it was
00:42:30.820
labeled that the uh what was it called the it was labeled as a heresy this this idea of a demonic
00:42:41.360
bloodline and i still think it should be i think it's a misunderstanding to think that the whole
00:42:47.600
as in the days of noah was about this experience it wasn't why was why wouldn't it be in the scripture
00:42:55.220
saying that it is when matthew 24 he tells you what the days of noah was happening and these are what the
00:43:02.180
things that look for that's not labeled as anything it's not in there it's not in there at all
00:43:07.100
so i think it's something that was grasped by a certain few uh theologians they sell the similarity
00:43:16.140
the first i heard it come out was 97 with uh what was his name he wrote his book alien encounters
00:43:25.440
uh christian theologian lost the name right now but when that book came out he included this
00:43:34.760
that's where this all started in the ufo realm and in the christian realm at this is where it started
00:43:40.520
to connect because he's he tried to tie that in and the thing is it's not the same it's not what we're
00:43:47.540
doing it's not a physical experience that's happening to people in the in the in the abduction
00:43:53.340
experience i'm not finding that at all there is no evidence that people are being physically taken
00:43:59.200
anywhere so for this to be continuing i'm not seeing it if they're thinking it's a continuation
00:44:05.060
of something that physically happened in genesis this is not physically happening now there are
00:44:11.200
physical attributes in the heat of battle your squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite
00:44:17.320
gaming tech at lenovo.com dominate every match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance
00:44:22.720
that won't quit push your gameplay beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of
00:44:28.180
gaming upgrade to smooth high quality streaming with intel wi-fi 6e and maximize game performance
00:44:33.340
with enhanced overclocking win the tech search power up at lenovo.com
00:44:37.560
to the encounter they can make physical marks they can leave impressions they can do things they can move
00:44:50.280
things but the experience itself is a spiritual visionary experience my research took it down
00:44:58.100
that line we had to look at that when i was working with gary bates from alien intrusion book
00:45:03.660
he started to see that he says you know when i talked to these experiences because we worked together for
00:45:09.360
years he says i get this feeling that i know this this this you know experience that they're having
00:45:16.800
i've seen this before and he finally put it together and he said you know the way they react
00:45:24.500
from this experience is almost identical to the reaction of somebody who's been through stage
00:45:32.260
hypnosis you know what i mean by stage hypnosis where you've got these hypnotists that put people
00:45:38.500
through and convince them that they're they're a chicken and they cluck around on stage and things
00:45:42.540
like that when they come out and they actually see what's happened what they actually did
00:45:47.820
the confusion in the mind is is incredible because the mind can't handle that something happened like
00:45:54.620
that that they've been duped to that point and we started seeing the same effect in the abduction
00:45:59.900
people so that's where we had to start looking a little deeper so i talked with gary and i went back
00:46:05.520
and i started reinvestigating a lot of the cases that i work with because in the research even the
00:46:12.560
secular realm will tell you this they're using hypnotic regression i've never used hypnotic regression
00:46:17.680
i'm a safety professional by trade okay i do incident investigations i know how to ask the
00:46:24.560
right questions to get to the root cause of what was happening i use the same methodology when i do
00:46:30.640
when i talk to people i don't have to put them in a trance to get that i just have to guide the
00:46:35.920
questioning to get them to remember what actually happened to them okay because it's there let me give
00:46:42.780
you a quick scenario um you remember your last birthday
00:46:47.260
vaguely yeah vaguely but what you do remember what you do remember is the most prominent things that
00:47:00.060
you wanted to remember okay they're in your forefront of your mind but the whole day or evening whatever
00:47:07.620
you experienced for that birthday is still in the consciousness of your mind okay all i have to do
00:47:16.580
is help guide you to bring the focus on to those things that you don't remember right now and you will
00:47:23.700
remember why will you will remember because they're recorded they actually happened so on that thinking i went
00:47:33.140
back to re interview these people and guess what i'm finding the same blanks in there that the secular
00:47:39.780
researchers are finding when they put them another hypnotic regression the reason for the blanks which
00:47:46.100
their secular realm says are these are blocks that the aliens put on them so they don't remember
00:47:52.340
everything i call that bunk that's not what this is what they're seeing with these missing information
00:48:00.020
it never happened it was not recorded what they're experiencing is a impacting powerful um horrific
00:48:11.620
experience in a visionary sense okay only enough information to convince them it actually happened to them
00:48:21.060
for instance you ever been to a play yes any type of play you're sitting in the audience you're watching
00:48:28.740
something happened on the scene and then they got to do a scene change right well let's say you're
00:48:33.860
watching this play and the scene the next scene they come out and they bring two walls out and they
00:48:39.460
bring them at 90 degrees one's got a fireplace on it and one's got a window and a door on it next thing
00:48:46.100
they bring out a couch and then an end table with a lamp and then a coffee table have you figured out what
00:48:51.940
the scene is what the scene is what is it well in the sense of sitting in in a living room with a fireplace lit
00:48:59.140
thank you you but is that all the information that you see in your living room no it doesn't need to be
00:49:08.580
it's only enough for you to get it okay but they bring in horror they bring in fear they bring in pain
00:49:17.540
all of that to emphasize this whole short little scenario best example thrown in our face by hollywood
00:49:26.740
and everybody goes that's just hollywood that's not real hollywood does that a lot to us they bring
00:49:32.340
in truth stick it in our face and we don't believe it because it's hollywood okay the best example of an
00:49:39.140
abduction experience to tell you what i'm talking about is the matrix the first matrix you seen it
00:49:46.180
yes yep all right neo is taken to neo goes to the submarine the first time they put him on that
00:49:53.940
bed and they plug him into the back of his head this is his first time going to the matrix soon as
00:50:00.660
they plug him in he goes to an all-white space and morpheus is there waiting for him then what starts
00:50:08.500
showing up furniture a tv you know just so happens it's the same scenario but the question is for you
00:50:17.860
guys where's neo hmm well i guess he would be in some aspect of his own mind or i guess what the
00:50:27.780
matrix would say is like the almost like a the back room to reality but where's neo actually on the bed oh
00:50:35.700
right physically on the bed correct on the bed this is your abduction experience now you got to say
00:50:43.460
why is that all there is to this abduction experience can i rock your guys boat a little
00:50:48.100
bit sure please say your can say your comparison conspiracy guys so let's throw a little conspiracy in
00:50:53.940
here so if that's what's happening if that's all that's happening and the physical aspects that
00:51:01.460
people record with it is just enough to reinforce the visionary experience the whole thing is to
00:51:09.780
change a person's mindset right every single person in the 30 years i've come across that have
00:51:16.740
delved into the ufo phenomenon or the abduction phenomenon has the same effect that effect of the
00:51:25.620
the entire phenomenon is to take somebody's eyes off of the one true god
00:51:35.220
have you ever heard of anything in scripture that alludes to that
00:51:47.220
it says that at the end times god himself will send a strong delusion that those that choose not to
00:52:01.220
follow him will believe a lie a lie that is so powerful that if it were possible even the very elect
00:52:11.220
which means the very elect of the church the true believers could be deceived i believe what we're
00:52:19.700
seeing here is that strong delusion because this is exactly what happens to people what's happening is
00:52:29.220
he is allowed the enemy to perpetrate this delusion for his purpose why do i believe that because of
00:52:38.340
looking at what these abilities are of these beings what their message is it's always anti-christ anti-god
00:52:47.460
anti-bible anti-creation there are creators okay everything is slamming a christian belief system
00:52:57.540
they're coming here with all their super abilities but yet they're not killing us why is that because
00:53:04.820
they're not allowed to you remember when he allowed satan to mess with job he could not take his life
00:53:12.740
this is exactly what we're seeing the other option for out for getting out of this for sake for salvation
00:53:21.620
is the same as what we saw in moses in the desert okay there was a story in the desert when they were
00:53:29.620
uh you know wandering through the desert they started doubting god and doubting you know they said you're
00:53:36.500
not you know where is our food where is our water yet they were being taken care of but they just
00:53:42.340
you know they weren't happy they were weren't satisfied so god told moses
00:53:48.260
he says i'm going to bring you a fiery snake and you erect it on a pole
00:53:52.740
and then i'm going to bring these fiery snakes to the ground and they're going to bite your people
00:53:59.700
and they will die the only salvation for them to not die once they're bitten is to look at that fiery
00:54:09.540
snake that you put on that pole only then will they leave this was a test of those people to show god
00:54:17.700
was still in control that was a forerunner of what we were to expect from christ on the cross
00:54:26.340
christ was put on a pole too and the only salvation for first to live would be through looking at him
00:54:34.340
on that cross we're seeing the same thing right now in this strong delusion that i believe we're seeing
00:54:41.780
the only salvation you have if you're affected by this phenomenon is again look to that cross
00:54:50.660
because these testimonies show that these testimonies are the only thing the evidence that shows
00:54:57.860
what this is and what the salvation is from it because if you fall for this strong delusion in the
00:55:04.660
heat of battle your squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite gaming tech at lenovo.com
00:55:10.500
dominate every match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance that won't quit
00:55:15.140
push your gameplay beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming
00:55:20.180
upgrade to smooth high quality streaming with intel wi-fi 6e and maximize game performance with
00:55:24.980
enhanced overclocking win the tech search power up at lenovo.com
00:55:28.900
this is not just you're being duped this is you're being eternally damned from making the choice to
00:55:41.540
fall for this strong delusion what do you it's it's really interesting because in conjunction with that
00:55:49.860
it seems like the entire purpose is to make you or not the entire purpose but a big part of it is to make
00:55:55.300
you feel like this is a physical phenomenon despite the fact that it's inherently spiritual and if you
00:56:02.500
can keep your eyes on the physical aspect of it uh then you'll be missing the idea that this is
00:56:09.300
spiritual warfare thank you thank you and that's the push for the whole nephilim idea where that's coming
00:56:17.300
from i don't believe that's from god i believe that is part of this strong delusion to get you to focus
00:56:23.460
on the physical instead of the spiritual i think that's that came in at a time when this phenomenon
00:56:30.740
took off i believe it is part of that same strong delusion to get christians to look at the real
00:56:36.740
truth of what's happening here it's very dangerous i believe to go down that avenue because people that
00:56:44.100
i've encountered that focus on that aspect this nephilim aspect it becomes their gospel it becomes their
00:56:51.220
focus and that alone tells me it's taken them away from everything else that god's talking about
00:56:57.140
you understand it's i i think it's the infiltration part of the delusion into the church itself because
00:57:04.740
we know there's a lot of not real believers in the church the church has gotten itself the american
00:57:10.900
church especially has gotten itself to where it's like okay if i show up on sundays and i do the
00:57:16.820
works that i got to do i'll be okay but that's not the case that's not the real church you know we
00:57:21.860
didn't have that organized church with jesus was here and when the apostles were doing that you know
00:57:27.940
it was it was totally different um and and this brings me to a point too is about
00:57:34.900
have you ever looked at the phenomenon as a whole researchers will tell you this is a worldwide
00:57:40.900
phenomenon do they not okay let me ask you something if i told you i was college educated
00:57:48.100
what would you think i've got a degree i got a four-year degree right but i only use the wording
00:57:57.140
to make you think that i only have a two-year degree okay rest of my stuff comes from independent
00:58:02.340
trainings but it's the way they say it when you say this is a worldwide event just because you have a
00:58:09.540
case here and a case there and a case way over there they call that a worldwide event but you
00:58:15.940
have to understand look at the numbers you know that the move there's other organizations besides move
00:58:23.940
on that are taking citing reports but as a move on member for 30 years i get a monthly thing telling
00:58:30.900
me the report numbers in this country alone we lead all of it this country this country alone we're
00:58:38.020
getting five to seven hundred citing reports just to move on a month you look at the rest of the
00:58:44.580
world it drops dramatically your major countries that are involved in this phenomenon okay the major
00:58:51.780
countries they're westernized they're modernized they're christianized and it's primarily white people
00:58:59.460
why do you think that is ah because the attack this delusion is attack against our belief system
00:59:13.620
that's this delusion fits this is the other countries are already being affected by the demonic realm
00:59:23.060
because they're already believing in something else other than god the enemy doesn't need to mess with
00:59:29.060
them they're already deceived the enemy's coming after the christians okay i i i agree i mean and
00:59:40.260
honestly looking at america right now it looks like he's he's winning but uh it seems like the tide is
00:59:45.780
changing as uh people are waking up what they wake up to is uh is a whole nother thing like like
00:59:51.380
kind of like your path you went from humanist to this uh new age stuff and it seems like
00:59:57.060
people will wake up to this new age stuff but i think if given enough time or actually steered
01:00:02.900
correctly they might be able to skip past that nonsense and go right to the truth but yeah that
01:00:07.860
seems like a logical progression but we need the evidence for it okay can we show that this is
01:00:12.900
spiritual they're already getting that part okay they're already calling it interdimensional
01:00:17.860
extra-dimensional crypto-dimensional whatever because they don't use the word spiritual but
01:00:24.500
it's the same thing they just have to get the terminology now when you bring in the testimonies
01:00:30.820
of the cases that i've brought over 30 years now this is the evidence to show that not only is it
01:00:38.020
spiritual but this thing is biblical okay everything fits to show that this is biblical there's so many
01:00:45.940
stories in there people want to be part of the supernatural so bad to have an experience what
01:00:52.260
they're missing completely is that the the most supernatural thing in the universe is god's word
01:01:00.420
it's funny because i'll be on social media and you know there's one facebook page i like to mess with
01:01:06.660
that's uh they call themselves demonologists right they're into the demonology and i it's funny because
01:01:13.540
they'll ask you know what's the best book i can get on demonology i'm just starting out and i'll type
01:01:18.420
in uh how about the bible you know of course they don't want to go there you know they want something
01:01:24.100
else but you want to know about demonology go to the bible it's all about it you know it tells us we're
01:01:30.900
at a cosmic war and we have been since the beginning of time well where do you i want to ask you a question
01:01:36.580
where do you put the scripture uh genesis 3 15 where he says that uh your seed will be at enmity
01:01:43.380
with the seed of man and he's talking directly to satan or lucifer the snake in the garden at the time
01:01:49.140
yeah it's a spiritual seed it's a spiritual seed and there's also testimony from people like uh
01:01:55.220
karen wilkinson who says that she's been abducted actually gotten pregnant has sonograms and then the
01:02:02.500
baby is then missing from her womb has sonograms for that it's unexplained it's this is a more
01:02:08.740
physical thing of what's happening yeah but it's not a way to put that it's only unexplained because
01:02:14.500
they haven't given her all the information for these i've been dealing with this for 30 years
01:02:19.940
believe me i have many cases talking about having babies and they're missing and everything else
01:02:25.220
the my belief my understanding of that is there's a natural there's a natural thing that happens to where
01:02:31.380
the babies can be the body eats it up okay i worked with a lady that dealt with missing twin phenomena
01:02:41.220
you ever heard of that one missing twin phenomena this was when i was in the new age and i was just
01:02:47.140
blown away the other yes or the body absorbs one of the twins only one is born what was fascinating is
01:02:56.180
when she went and started interviewing these people that knew they were they were uh single twins that
01:03:02.660
were born come to find out they got memories they got memories of seeing their other twin on crafts
01:03:18.020
how do you figure that out but it's all the same member i told you their memories it's not real it's part
01:03:24.900
of the deception okay there are medical things that can happen to people that will answer these
01:03:32.900
questions obviously she hasn't accepted that answer or she has not been told those that information or the
01:03:39.860
doctors haven't verified it to give that to her remember remember this is not a real physical thing but
01:03:50.340
they can leave physical attributes to have you believe it to be true i believe that the idea of the of the
01:03:59.300
hybridization is just a more powerful level of the onion of this delusion this delusion remember would be so
01:04:08.900
powerful that if it were possible the elect would be deceived this is going to be so powerful so
01:04:15.540
convoluted so incredibly powerful and deep that we will never find an answer to it because we're
01:04:23.940
not supposed to except through god's word okay so anybody else looking at it is not going to get the deep
01:04:30.500
answer to it unless they turn to god himself to be free what's happening here i believe is the enemy is using
01:04:38.500
this idea that they're giving these people of this experience this visionary experience that they're
01:04:45.380
having this baby they're having it taken from them they later can be taken and shown the baby and
01:04:51.940
everything else the purpose of that remember most experiencers are women most of them are it's a
01:05:01.540
a controlled factor the most powerful thing in a woman is her maternal instinct if you affect her maternal
01:05:12.180
instinct you own her and i believe that's what the enemy is tapped into here do you have do you have like
01:05:22.100
numbers on the percentages of women that are having this experience versus men i'd be interested to
01:05:28.260
know that that breakdown i don't know what everybody's come up with for a total but it's a
01:05:34.900
major difference okay a major difference but the mix is going to be there because the purpose is to take
01:05:42.580
your eyes off the one true god so if more men are getting into it keep in mind i told you this was a
01:05:49.860
white people's phenomenon we don't have people of color that are being taken in big numbers you might
01:05:55.860
have one or two here or there everybody wants to go back to betty and barney hill excuse me that's a
01:06:01.220
one okay that's all you got amongst the millions that have been through this in the heat of battle your
01:06:07.860
squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite gaming tech at lenovo.com dominate every
01:06:13.460
match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance that won't quit push your gameplay
01:06:18.100
beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming upgrade to smooth
01:06:23.220
high quality streaming with intel wi-fi 6e and maximize game performance with enhanced overclocking
01:06:36.900
this is primarily white people's phenomenon so that tells you right there we got a problem
01:06:43.060
well some would some would argue that the chirp disturbs black people sleep but
01:06:47.380
that's a whole nother thing david go ahead you're going to ask a question um when i was younger
01:06:52.580
i uh my my grandmother that i talked about she read a book that she found incredibly disturbing and
01:06:59.460
uh she told my mother her daughter not to read the book and uh one day it came up and uh i i asked what
01:07:10.980
the name of the book was and my mother told me it was uh i i'm sure you're familiar with this one joseph uh
01:07:18.340
uh communion by oh yeah striber and it's a fascinating book in hindsight now because i read
01:07:26.740
it in its entirety but i would have only been 16 when i read it so it's been a while and looking back
01:07:37.460
now i remember so for those listening communion was a compilation of testimony that uh whitley
01:07:48.420
claimed to and correct me if i'm wrong it's been a while claimed to have uh uh you know amalgamated
01:07:54.500
and turn into a book and at the end of it he said something very interesting he said that there was a
01:08:02.980
symbol that he believed held the key to understanding the phenomenon and if i'm not mistaken it was the
01:08:13.860
trinity which in hindsight you know calling the book communion um and i don't know where whitley
01:08:22.580
stands on it now we've tried to get him uh on the show i've not absorbed any of his content in well over
01:08:29.940
15 years um but it's just interesting that the book should have been called communion you know which
01:08:37.220
has this heavy uh religious connotation at the end of it he sums it up with the this sort of
01:08:44.500
mysterious cliffhanger of the trinity being the key to understanding this phenomenon i'd like very
01:08:50.260
much to get your thoughts on uh on you know whitley and and that book and and what do you think um
01:08:58.500
because it left an impression on the community right this is a significant piece of literature
01:09:04.260
when it comes to this phenomenon uh and i'd like to get your ideas on it well by far was an is by far
01:09:11.780
was his experiences communion as we know communion being a biblical term you know from scripture it's
01:09:19.540
everything but i have done many many talks and presentations where i actually titled my talk
01:09:26.900
unholy communion i just spoke at the move on conference in pittsburgh a couple months ago and
01:09:32.580
that was the title of my talk unholy communion because i i try to get people to understand that
01:09:38.900
what he's promoting here is communing with these beings which is where he ended up taking it level two
01:09:44.420
uh when you read his his early quotes out of that book he talks about you know if there were demons
01:09:51.540
these are them you know he even made those comments in that book but he went on to actually move on to
01:09:59.060
promote contact okay this is that stockholm syndrome we see with a lot of the experiencers
01:10:06.020
where they go through the horrific experiences but the next thing we you know
01:10:09.380
they're the prophets for these beings here on earth you know they're the ones that have been
01:10:15.300
chosen and they you know these beings in their communications they tell them that oh yeah you
01:10:19.700
were chosen to go through this you know to be able to be a messenger for us blah blah blah you know
01:10:25.300
so they're proselyte these entities are proselytizing a cosmic gospel that goes against our scriptures
01:10:33.060
and he's played on that if you read you look at some of the late literature that he's done
01:10:37.300
yeah he goes against he's writing about a whole new gospel you know under to give people an
01:10:44.260
understanding of who jesus really was this is all new age gobbledygook he's toeing the line for their
01:10:50.180
for their alien gospel that they're trying to promote did he open doors heck yeah he opened doors
01:10:56.740
you know i can i can look at that and see that all over look at what he was writing before he got into
01:11:02.340
uh writing communion before he had experiences go back and look at his book walking okay where he
01:11:09.940
he was writing some pretty pretty pretty dark stuff so i have no doubt that he had opened himself up to this stuff
01:11:19.380
that's fascinating what was the nature of of when you say dark stuff it's funny he called it walking right
01:11:24.340
isn't that his horse it was horror stuff really yeah interesting interesting but it and then he had
01:11:32.340
these experiences and it converted him it converted him exactly like i'm talking about it took him away
01:11:38.580
from the one true god and they convinced him that he was chosen for this he was chosen to spread this
01:11:44.580
alien gospel sounds a lot like that raylian religion i'm sure you've heard yeah oh yeah
01:11:54.660
and most of these most of the people that are promoting this stuff
01:11:59.540
are that's what's happened to them look at stephen greer stephen greer is pushing ce5
01:12:04.900
you know a meditative contact with these beings stephen's an experiencer you know and they they changed him
01:12:12.260
they took him away from that truth they changed his reality and now he's a mess he's a he's spreading
01:12:18.180
their alien gospel too this this idea of you are chosen is yeah this like really effective appeal
01:12:29.060
at the the the ego of man the whole attraction to the new age is because of ego it's because they're
01:12:37.700
offering you an opportunity to gain special knowledge right where have we heard that before
01:12:46.420
you know over and over again we one of our friends of the show actually texted me the other day
01:12:52.100
um someone who has uh said that he's been speaking to these entities colin um it's it's important that we
01:13:00.260
do use a scripture and says that says test the spirits like they'll come to you and they'll come
01:13:06.260
to you as an angel of light or they'll come to you as whatever whatever they think you'll you'll want
01:13:11.620
to accept them as and i i think thank you i know he's he's deceived it's just a like ask for complete
01:13:19.460
clarification i had said this to you at one point david off air where when we first started the show
01:13:24.660
you would say uh you know let's pray to christ and i was like be a little bit more specific because
01:13:32.020
like who who are we talking about here yeah christ or jesus christ i don't know who you know some that's
01:13:40.100
just the word and i feel like we have to be really specific with our spoken words at what we're what
01:13:45.460
we're communing with what we're open to who we're speaking to who's speaking to us that's a great point
01:13:52.260
because you look at the new age community they've taken christ and and reduced it to this christ
01:13:59.060
consciousness right yeah and i've heard people even describe well uh christ consciousness is
01:14:05.380
actually a sort of oil that's secreted within your your spine at the 33rd vertebrae all kinds of
01:14:13.780
crap they're jumping through groups and doing backflips and and you know trying to tell you that uh
01:14:18.980
christ consciousness is an organic material produced in your spine and and and causes
01:14:23.620
enlightenment and it's like yeah you got to be really specific because if if you give people
01:14:28.740
something that's too malleable well they'll mold it into whatever the hell they want it to be
01:14:33.780
and sure and and you know that it might it might be there might be a scientific explanation for it but
01:14:40.340
it doesn't replace what's the actual truth it's still just another misguiding delusion that it's it's that
01:14:46.900
99 truth and the one percent lie that kind of like leads you this way here and now you're off track
01:14:54.100
yeah yeah yep yep which just seems to be uh what the the new age movement does you know we were talking
01:15:01.540
yesterday about the concept of of numerology and how um i go back and forth because i see that there is
01:15:11.060
value in numbers we did a a book of revelation episode with ed mabry and obviously the number
01:15:17.380
seven appears over and over again uh god created the the world and and on the seventh day he rested and
01:15:24.260
the seven seals the seven trumpets the seven year tribulation all these different things seven just
01:15:29.300
repeats over and over again it's like there's a significance to the numbers but when it comes
01:15:33.700
to numerology i hit the brakes because there's this entire community that's built around
01:15:38.820
numerology but what i what i do think is happening here is that the the enemy cannot create it can only
01:15:46.260
corrupt and invert and so there is something at its core that is true but surrounding it is all of this
01:15:56.260
this this um it's like there's truth and surrounding it is weeds that have grown out of control and will
01:16:05.220
lead you down a bunch of different paths instead of straight to the truth and so uh i think it's it's
01:16:10.500
one of those things that the new age movement doesn't see but does so well is it grows a lot of weeds
01:16:17.140
to obfuscate um not that the the people that are part of the community are purposely obfuscating but uh
01:16:24.100
there is a spiritual we're engaged in spiritual warfare and the name of the game is to take
01:16:28.660
god's creation and to invert it or corrupt it however you can and lead people astray yep and it's
01:16:35.060
not just the new age the infiltrations into the church i think there's a lot of teachings that are
01:16:40.340
coming into the church that are given the same effect you know and that's what we got to be aware
01:16:47.380
of you know this whole concept of of this being a physical thing you know if the research that i've
01:16:53.780
done shows that this is not a physical thing then we don't have physical entities that we're dealing
01:17:00.020
with here you know on the earth there's no hybrids walking among us and the thing is the scripture tells
01:17:07.940
us because if there were hybrids walking among us then now we're dealing with a physical entity that
01:17:14.740
we war against where scripture tells us we wrestle not against flesh and blood that's another scripture
01:17:20.580
you're going to have to throw out if we got physical beings walking among us if the genetic
01:17:25.540
line is saying that we have people here because of their one drop of that genetics then that you've
01:17:33.300
got to throw that one out too because they can't be redeemed because scripture tells us that those those
01:17:38.340
that that realm is not going to be redeemed the danger of what i believe the biggest danger in this time
01:17:46.260
with this teaching that we're dealing with a demonic bloodline race that possibly walks among us is this
01:17:57.940
you may not have any you know an idea about how many people out there actually claim to be alien
01:18:04.660
hybrids it's insane they've taken them tattoo themselves and they they they get no not that not that these are
01:18:14.180
people that actually believe and claim that they were that they are hybrids walking among us um the thing
01:18:23.620
is i like to mess with them online because i ask them have you told your real dad your earthly dad that
01:18:28.500
you're you're not from him you know most of them have not you know uh they don't want to go that far but
01:18:34.260
yet they'll claim you know on their social media that they're actually hybrids um the scary thing about
01:18:40.740
that if with this many i'm talking there's probably hundreds and hundreds of thousands that are
01:18:47.060
claiming this and actually believe it uh to the core the danger with that is if we're teaching this
01:18:54.260
nephilim thing in the church this idea that they're a demonic bloodline eventually you're going to get some
01:19:02.900
wackadoodle that's going to start taking out these people that believe they're alien hybrids a
01:19:08.100
critic that's going to go offline you're talking about a point to where people are going to be
01:19:15.140
convinced to a point that we actually have a race of these people that cannot be saved and are out to
01:19:22.100
change our belief in god that is dangerous any time in history that a race of people have been demonized
01:19:31.540
what's happened there's been a there's been a holocaust and i believe we are prepping ourselves
01:19:40.020
without knowing it for a holocaust of these people in this community if we don't stop
01:19:47.620
today's episode is brought to you by heavens harvest.com in times of uncertainty peace of
01:19:52.180
mind is priceless and heaven's harvest has your back with the highest quality emergency survival foods
01:19:56.980
and heirloom seeds they have survival food kits for emergencies that last a week all the way up to
01:20:02.340
12 weeks choose from protein kits entree kits breakfast fruits and veg and even organic kits for
01:20:08.340
you bougie survivalists don't forget to check out their heirloom seeds and choose from their vegetable
01:20:12.660
kits artisan seed kits superfood kits and more they even have water filtration units build your stockpile
01:20:20.500
without breaking the bank by visiting heavensharvest.com and using promo code nephilim at checkout that's
01:20:26.260
promo code nephilim n-e-p-h-i-l-i-m for five percent off your entire order
01:20:34.740
i i agree i agree i i still hold out reservations that these things are not physical i think that
01:20:41.060
there's biblical scripture to say that they did walk the earth there were giants there were well
01:20:46.340
there were giants i understand that i have no problem with that i think that a communion or a union
01:20:53.220
of of something demonic possessed person okay with a with a another human can cause a problem i have no
01:21:04.500
doubt that that possession can corrupt you know us physically and i i have no doubt that god has allowed
01:21:12.580
that part to happen the the the whole thing is is is it wasn't that wasn't the reason for the flood
01:21:20.260
the reason for the flood is this offspring was aiding in corrupting the whole belief system of those who
01:21:28.980
lived prior to the flood because if you look at what genesis or matthew 24 says it tells you everything
01:21:36.180
that they were doing it's identical to what we're seeing now that's falling away from god
01:21:41.220
that's what happened remember the the first generations many of the first generations in
01:21:47.220
genesis were following god they did believe in god is this is this it this in incursion of this
01:21:56.020
thought system from these angelic beings that changed the way they started to believe in the
01:22:02.020
heat of battle your squad relies on you don't let them down unlock elite gaming tech at lenovo.com
01:22:07.860
dominate every match with next level speed seamless streaming and performance that won't quit
01:22:12.500
push your gameplay beyond performance with intel core ultra processors for the next era of gaming
01:22:17.460
upgrade to smooth high quality streaming with intel wi-fi 6e and maximize game performance with
01:22:22.340
enhanced overclocking win the tech search power up at lenovo.com
01:22:26.260
and man went corrupt because of that and that's what the flood was about remember he said that we
01:22:38.980
found none righteous in his eye in god's eyes but no you know no way in his family because the earth had
01:22:45.620
just gone berserk i mean just like we're seeing in this country it's gone berserk you know yeah i agree i
01:22:53.700
i wanted to i want to ask you uh another question we we've had on timothy albarino on this and we've
01:23:01.460
touched on this subject among a bunch of other things and he is a firm believer against what kind
01:23:07.540
of what we're saying even though we had like a little agreement to like all right let's maybe leave
01:23:11.620
it there but one of the things he mentioned when we asked him well why do the demon why do the aliens
01:23:17.140
the alien encounters stop when you invoke the name of jesus christ and he says that he has a proof of
01:23:24.740
a number of testimonies where that wasn't the case and that's easy to answer yeah what would be your
01:23:31.460
response to that because they haven't shut the doors yet they haven't gone through full completion of
01:23:37.700
of getting their life right back with god you can't leave these doors open okay it's a lot of work to
01:23:45.700
get these people to get these people to a point it's like when i work with these people that are
01:23:50.420
not christian that have opened themselves up to this first to have any help i got to convince them
01:23:56.820
that christianity and jesus is real i've got to be able to bring them to jesus okay and then you've got
01:24:04.180
to be able to go through the whole process to get them to understand how it how you have to maintain
01:24:09.940
your walk with him to be able to shut this completely that's a lot of work what he's coming
01:24:16.660
across is people who don't want to do the work that's the problem they're not see i have i published
01:24:23.540
in my book the eight r's to freedom okay let me grab one here i'll show you because people wanted a process
01:24:33.300
that you know they wanted something in their hand that they could uh they could use
01:24:40.820
and and follow you know so i something i put together i kind of borrowed it from somebody else's
01:24:48.580
writing but it's called the eight r's to freedom and this is a process that i i guide them to i was
01:24:55.220
already guiding them through this but i didn't have it in print uh my wife that passed away some years
01:25:01.940
ago she had picked up a book and found this information in there and she showed it to me
01:25:07.220
she says i think this might be you know kind of valid information for what you're doing it should
01:25:12.660
fit you know no matter what you're dealing with so i did and i you know kind of took it and that's
01:25:17.940
what this guy had written and and lined it up with you know this abduction experience these eight r's
01:25:24.340
your first one is recognize uh you must recognize what it is okay first of all i take these people and
01:25:31.540
i use all the things that i can show them that don't make sense in this phenomenon and i build
01:25:38.100
that that i plant that seed of doubt because if you really look at this phenomenon there's a lot of
01:25:43.380
things that don't make sense and you can start breaking down that stronghold by interjecting that's
01:25:50.180
into that stronghold doubt once you can plant that seed of doubt now you have an opportunity to help
01:25:57.140
get them on to the truth okay once they understand what they're dealing with okay once they recognize
01:26:04.340
it then they got it the second r is responsibility they have to take the responsibility to do what it
01:26:12.420
needs to be done to stop this completely okay not just a one-time event but you need to be able to take
01:26:20.340
you know responsibility to do the work that's going to make it stop entirely number three is repent you've
01:26:28.820
got to honestly repent to god for being involved in this stuff because most of the time i mean absolutely
01:26:36.020
most of the time it was a choice you made okay so you got to repent for that are you seeing that this
01:26:42.820
probably works for anything any sin or any bondage we have in our life but i just tailored it to alien
01:26:49.460
abductions moving on you have to renounce it okay you have to make what you've been involved with and
01:26:57.540
you now recognize as being wrong your enemy okay you've got to go to war with this stuff number five this
01:27:06.180
is the one that people have problem with and this is where these people like alberino are saying this
01:27:12.260
doesn't work for people because he's only talking to the people like this that have had a problem in
01:27:18.660
getting through the whole thing is he trying to help them no he's not trying to help them he's
01:27:23.540
just using this information that he found to come against what i've been pushing for 30 years that
01:27:29.060
jesus works why would he as a christian want to go against the idea that jesus is still in power and
01:27:36.900
jesus can make this stop i don't understand his agenda there he was going against the idea that aliens
01:27:43.060
are demonic and this is what we were pushing and i was like no they're pretty demonic and he's like i
01:27:47.860
think that they might just be flying around like now and we kind of it was i don't care i don't care
01:27:53.220
what he thinks what does god say you know let's go back to what god says they are and he tells us what
01:27:59.780
they are so number five remove it this is where people fail you have to get every aspect out of your
01:28:07.860
life get off the freaking internet and quit looking at this stuff that's an open door okay if you've
01:28:15.220
been part of this you've got to slam that door shut and focus on jesus christ or you still got an open
01:28:22.180
door and there's still going to be access to your life okay this is important people you've got to close
01:28:29.140
the door to this stuff if you were an alcoholic or a drug user you can't do this occasionally you've got
01:28:36.180
to shut that door and then you move on to number six resist why would number six say resist if you're
01:28:46.020
stopping this why would it say resist because you're not doing number five okay they're going to come
01:28:52.100
back and you got to go through the process over and over until you get this thing completed until you get
01:28:57.940
through the eight r's number seven rejoice when you finally get there why rejoice because god is setting
01:29:07.060
you free then number eight the most important of all which brings me to my ministry number eight is
01:29:16.900
you help somebody else get free okay number eight that's the most important that that covers the enemy's
01:29:26.100
power it's restore not just if you come restored but you take what you've learned and you share it with
01:29:35.940
the next person that's the one thing the enemy doesn't want you to do is share your testimony why because
01:29:44.500
your testimony of a changed life through jesus christ is the most powerful evidence in the universe
01:29:52.420
that god is real that jesus saving grace is real that the bible is real they don't want the enemy does
01:30:00.900
not want that this is why this fight of 30 years i've been dealing with trying to get this information
01:30:06.900
out there has been like it is it's been the unwanted piece of the puzzle i'm not front line like alvarino or
01:30:13.780
marzulli because what i bring to the table is not a game changer it's a game stopper and they don't want
01:30:22.260
the game to stop people are making a living off this game i don't make a living off this game i vowed
01:30:29.460
never to make a living off the game i work for a living i always have and i will continue to work for a
01:30:35.940
living i was given a mission to take this information back to where i came from that's what i've been doing
01:30:42.660
for 30 years i listened to the scripture that jesus made a promise he says for those who do my work i
01:30:49.940
will meet your needs i do his work he has met my needs i've never been in need of employment i've
01:30:57.860
never been in need of a place to live will i ever get rich and wealthy i doubt it because that's not the
01:31:04.180
intent the intent is my needs have been met and i put my faith in that promise that he made to us
01:31:12.020
that my needs will be met i do not and never will make this a ministry that is totally supportive of
01:31:19.780
me trying to get this message out this message was given to me at a time in my life that was given to
01:31:26.980
me freely okay and i was told take this message back to where i came from why would i charge for this
01:31:34.420
message i have a book that people have to pay for on amazon but i'll tell you i've given more away than
01:31:43.300
i actually have sold the idea isn't to make money off the book the idea was to finally get something
01:31:51.460
out there that people wanted to put in their hands tangible to be able to look at and share and follow
01:31:58.500
and maybe help somebody else i give the books whenever i sell the books i take the money from
01:32:04.180
when i sell the books and i buy the books at my cost from amazon because there's an author's cost
01:32:09.380
which is really cheap it's like five dollars and 65 cents a book i buy them at cost in bulk so i can
01:32:16.420
give away okay because this is a witnessing tool the book is a witnessing tool it's evidence it's
01:32:24.180
testimony of jesus christ being who he says he is and what he will do for you i got over 60 testimonies
01:32:31.380
in the book okay that people how many do you need to be convinced that what i'm telling you is real
01:32:36.580
because there's unending testimonies to be able to give you there's 60 in the book okay i can take you
01:32:43.220
and lead you to the truth for that five dollars and 65 cents by giving you that book i could do the
01:32:49.940
same thing if i just took you for a cup of coffee at starbucks it costs the same amount okay so that's
01:32:55.380
really why to put the book out there as a witnessing tool people want to pay for what it is on amazon
01:33:00.900
so be it it gives me the ability to reach those that i can't afford it you know that's the type of
01:33:06.420
ministry that i've been doing i've been i've been blessed to live my dream in my life two times and
01:33:13.140
i have no doubt that the lord's allowed that to happen okay my dream was to be part of the space
01:33:18.980
program america's space program i had the opportunity working during the shuttle program
01:33:23.940
that was a blessing that i never thought would ever happen but the lord blessed me with that
01:33:28.900
opportunity when the shuttle program ended i had to go do something else i thought okay that part of the
01:33:34.580
dream is over now go back to work someplace else i ended up going to korea for 11 years living as uh
01:33:41.300
and working as a contractor supporting the military american military over there
01:33:45.700
but waiting all along hoping the space program will take off again the private industry and it did
01:33:52.500
and i've been blessed to work again here at the space center for a private industry rocket launcher and
01:34:00.260
again able to live my dream you know that can only be a godsend okay the opportunity to do that again so
01:34:08.660
my needs are getting met my dreams are getting met because i do the lord's work and i do it honestly
01:34:14.660
and i think that's with everybody i think if we take what the lord tells us and you take your testimony
01:34:20.340
and you use it you become a missionary for god's word that's the great commission but take out the
01:34:26.580
take the word of god out there and share it with them and share your testimony because what is the testimony
01:34:33.140
the testimony is the evidence that the word of god is real because if you share the bible with somebody
01:34:40.500
and they go oh that's fantastic story what has it done for you if you don't have an answer for that
01:34:48.020
you may as well have shared moby dick with them because that's a great book too because you got no
01:34:54.260
evidence that it's it is what it is unless you have a testimony well i got hundreds of testimonies okay
01:35:02.100
that was the mission i was given is overwhelm the people with testimonies to show them what this is
01:35:09.860
and how they can be stopped and how jesus is in control joseph what's the name of the book
01:35:17.460
it's piercing the cosmic veil you shall not be afraid of the dark by night
01:35:24.980
and do you have a website for it um actually you'd go you go on amazon and you put it in there you'll find
01:35:31.540
it um i've got a i've got it available in paperback and kindle and amazon just did a favor for me and
01:35:39.300
converted it over with ai to uh full audio so you can buy the 14 and a half hours version of audio for
01:35:46.100
the whole book okay perfect my my co-host can't read we're gonna put that in the bio because listen
01:35:54.260
even though i know your your ministry isn't to make money i think people should still support you because
01:35:59.220
with that money you can do even more things i wish i could do a lot more you know i'm i've limited on
01:36:04.980
how i work i i have to use my own and trust the lord like it's like tithing you know i trust the
01:36:10.500
lord's going to help me out if i have to use my own money and he does every time you know um i just
01:36:16.180
have to trust if i'm going to spend a couple grand to get to a conference to try to set up to help
01:36:20.900
people that he's going to help me get it back and he usually does it may take some time that's part of
01:36:26.420
trusting you know it's just like tithing you got to trust so it's a supernatural experience people that
01:36:32.260
you listen to testimonies that people tithe regularly they say you know i never had the
01:36:36.900
money i i i just felt i never had the money to tithe but i did anyway and then come to find out
01:36:43.380
it's like i was never missing it you know after i did it because it's it's one of those things where
01:36:48.420
god says test me okay it's like the same thing that that scripture i told you he says trust me
01:36:56.100
you do my work and i will meet your needs i had to put trust into that and he has done that he has
01:37:02.980
met that promise wow this is a i i wanted to ask one more question i'm sorry i feel like that was a
01:37:10.180
mic drop but i just have to ask a question so with you still you're still like uh looking into the ufo
01:37:18.180
thing you said the more you look into this um like be careful looking into this because you're leaving
01:37:23.380
that door open as people who are still looking into a array of things but obviously we're focused on
01:37:29.540
christ how do you deal with that part of your life and and that part of your career as your ministry
01:37:36.100
going forward because it's still your business to kind of look at this thing at this alien phenomenon
01:37:41.780
sure and then bring it over to other people so what would be your advice it's it's the perspective
01:37:47.700
that you're looking at it from and if if you are grounded in jesus and you know you're you're doing
01:37:55.700
what you know he's asked us to do you're following him and you're trusting in him and you're guided by
01:38:01.460
him and the holy spirit then you're looking at it through biblical lens okay and that's a different
01:38:07.940
thing than looking at it through like when i started through an agnostic lens and then again
01:38:13.380
by the new age metaphysical lens because those are not of god and they're going to feed you information
01:38:21.220
that is not going to be right but if you're grounded in the lord and you've been called to work because
01:38:27.780
this is a battle this is a cosmic war that we're dealing with and that that while i said that i'll
01:38:34.740
let you know that i'm working on book number two and the title of that one actually is unholy communion
01:38:41.780
casualties of a cosmic war and there's going to be some powerful testimonies in there i step out a
01:38:48.340
little bit from the ufo abduction experience uh solely because i bring in testimonies of people that have
01:38:56.980
been involved in spiritism ghost hunting um people that have had near death and things like that and
01:39:04.100
and overdoses or whatever from drugs and i bring it all together to show that this delusion is not this
01:39:11.540
cosmic war this delusion that's against us as believers us as humans to not follow god is far
01:39:19.060
reaching into other areas than just the abduction alien ufo phenomenon all of these areas are being hit by the
01:39:26.420
enemy it's like the enemy says here's a here's a million doors pick one which one you like you
01:39:33.060
know and because he knows he knows what we're we're open to he knows what we what would seduce us and
01:39:38.900
that's it's all a seduction but what does jesus say he says i stand at the door and not there's only one
01:39:46.820
okay there's only one that can that can come in and you can pass through uh so that this is where
01:39:52.740
the counterfeit comes in and i'm going to show that in the second book you know uh i think i speak for
01:39:59.220
david when i say that we'd love to have you on again especially when that second book comes out
01:40:04.020
i'd love to hear testimonies from that and i like for people to buy it or get it somehow so that way
01:40:10.420
this thing is out there and not just a piece of gold that's written and sitting there you know people
01:40:16.260
should be actively seeking this out and knowing where to get it so i hope to speak to you again in the
01:40:21.540
future and thank you for coming on this has been a great episode thank you absolutely um anything
01:40:29.540
else david uh guys if you want to support the show and the work that we do uh you can go to
01:40:36.820
toplobster.com pick up some merch uh you can also go to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad
01:40:44.740
um if you don't have the money i greatly sympathize with that if you want to help and spread the message
01:40:51.380
you can go to uh youtube rumble wherever you guys are listening like share and subscribe and one of
01:40:58.660
the things that helps boost us in the algorithm is leave a rating and review on your audio platforms
01:41:04.420
that's about it for me absolutely we'll see one more one more thing if you don't mind i'll give the
01:41:09.540
locations where people can find the information that i have my website is www.ce the number four
01:41:17.380
research.com i have a youtube channel all my talks that i've ever done that i can get up on my youtube
01:41:25.060
channel are there my conference talks that i've had video and my podcasts i try to get them all up
01:41:31.060
there that i've done and uh there's there's a lot of them up there for many years and they're all free
01:41:37.620
you know i don't sell dvds i don't sell any of that stuff i give them away remember this is the message that
01:41:43.380
i was freely given so i tried to freely give so there's there's plenty of information that you can
01:41:49.460
go to and follow along um also you got the amazon book and if people are listening to this or and are
01:41:57.620
watching this and you are an experiencer or if you are a former experiencer and you have a testimony
01:42:05.620
like what we're talking about you know being saved from the saving grace of jesus christ please reach
01:42:11.380
out to me because it's these testimonies that are going to overwhelm the secular world and more is
01:42:17.460
always better this is what my mission was to do gather these testimonies and show them you can reach
01:42:23.460
me at my email at ce4 ce the number four president at yahoo.com i'll respond to you i do if you're
01:42:32.420
needing help i'll work with you that's what i do okay okay i am going to make sure i get all of your
01:42:39.620
links they'll be in the bio of this episode so people it's a no-brainer if you like what was said
01:42:46.500
here you just click that and there'll be a bunch of clickable links and you can contact joseph if
01:42:51.140
you feel it you can buy his books you can check out his stuff but until then we'll see you next week
01:42:57.140
probably will be back god willing see you later guys the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a
01:43:02.820
oblong box in the corner of the room it is constantly telling us what to believe is real
01:43:09.700
you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see
01:43:15.940
because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening