Nephilim Death Squad - 044： Aliens VS Jesus w⧸ Joseph G. Jordan

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00:01:25.120 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:39.940 Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:44.140 We are in a country and in a world 0.99

00:01:47.440 that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:53.120 The chasm between what we're told is going on 0.95

00:01:55.460 and what is really going on is absolutely true.

00:01:58.780 Oh, yeah, dude. 0.99

00:02:00.200 There's some Nephilim shit. 1.00

00:02:01.380 It's like we all know it's going down 1.00

00:02:03.920 but no one's saying shit 0.97

00:02:04.920 what happened to the home of the brave. 0.97

00:02:07.640 They're controlling this now

00:02:09.120 and no one's talking about it

00:02:10.580 and it's not a big slave.

00:02:12.320 And everybody's just walking around

00:02:14.320 heading to clouds

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00:02:17.580 But then it's too late.

00:02:18.560 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:02:20.380 Welcome to the end of day.

00:02:22.040 Good morning and welcome to another episode

00:02:32.060 of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:34.620 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

00:02:38.360 That is Top Lapsa, the father of disinformation.

00:02:41.900 And we are doing a little bit of an early show.

00:02:45.000 I know if you guys are listening on the audio

00:02:47.340 or listening in the future, it doesn't matter.

00:02:49.320 But it matters for us

00:02:50.780 because this is the earliest

00:02:53.400 that we've typically done

00:02:54.580 an episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:55.900 But we really wanted to make accommodation

00:02:57.400 for today's guest, Joseph Jordan.

00:03:02.120 Joseph, can you please let the audience know

00:03:04.960 what it is that you do

00:03:06.640 and where they can find your work?

00:03:10.140 Yeah, sure.

00:03:11.060 Thanks for having me on first, guys.

00:03:13.780 I'm a 30-year researcher, investigator

00:03:18.060 and member of the Mutual UFO Network.

00:03:21.240 And my focus of my research has been

00:03:23.380 with the abduction phenomena, primarily,

00:03:26.260 secondarily with the UFO, UAP phenomenon.

00:03:29.680 And I've got some very unique findings

00:03:32.320 that I've come, that's come from my research

00:03:36.480 over these 30 years.

00:03:38.700 And it's kind of been the unwanted piece

00:03:42.700 of the UFO community, UFO puzzle.

00:03:46.100 The findings that I've come up with

00:03:48.220 go against pretty much everything

00:03:49.800 that the UFO community

00:03:52.240 is putting out there right now.

00:03:53.880 And it's not that they don't know this.

00:03:56.320 It's what they don't want to be put out.

00:04:00.660 And that's kind of what I'm bringing

00:04:02.860 to the table here.

00:04:03.760 It sounds like you overlap a lot

00:04:07.540 with like the, not directly,

00:04:10.080 but this idea of Gobekli Tepe

00:04:11.640 and what archaeologists know

00:04:14.880 or what they say that they know

00:04:16.520 and what is there

00:04:17.620 and they're not willing to look into.

00:04:19.360 Is that what you're saying?

00:04:20.800 Very similar to that.

00:04:22.720 Okay.

00:04:23.460 Before we continue,

00:04:25.280 what's your religious background?

00:04:28.540 When I started into the UFO phenomenon

00:04:31.000 back in 92,

00:04:33.000 I was an agnostic humanist.

00:04:35.360 Part of my journey

00:04:36.440 into my investigations

00:04:37.820 with the abduction phenomenon

00:04:39.540 had me cross over

00:04:42.400 into an area that I had to look at

00:04:45.400 because it was actually part

00:04:46.920 of these experiencers' life.

00:04:49.860 And that was the New Age metaphysical realm.

00:04:52.880 I ended up spending four years

00:04:54.480 as a New Age practitioner myself.

00:04:57.400 After that, by the end of 1996,

00:05:01.000 I was introduced to another avenue

00:05:03.840 and that was Christianity.

00:05:06.340 And I became a born-again Christian

00:05:08.240 in 1996 in November.

00:05:11.540 So I've had the opportunity

00:05:12.960 to look at this same research

00:05:15.640 that I started into

00:05:17.260 from three different perspectives.

00:05:20.260 Most researchers that start

00:05:22.280 into this phenomenon

00:05:23.320 are only seeing it

00:05:24.600 from one perspective,

00:05:26.640 the one that they start into.

00:05:28.580 Myself, I've had the opportunity

00:05:30.460 for three distinct perspectives

00:05:32.760 to look at this phenomenon.

00:05:34.480 And it wasn't until

00:05:35.620 I got to Christianity 0.53

00:05:36.700 that I actually got the answers

00:05:38.660 that made sense.

00:05:41.180 I think, yeah,

00:05:42.800 I don't want to speak for David,

00:05:44.000 but yeah, I've been in the church

00:05:45.660 my entire life,

00:05:46.860 you know, fell away,

00:05:47.800 came back, this kind of thing.

00:05:49.220 But since doing this show

00:05:50.780 for the last six months

00:05:51.680 and also exploring these ideas

00:05:53.800 for probably the last two years,

00:05:55.240 they only make sense

00:05:57.400 under a Christian lens,

00:05:58.760 under a biblical lens.

00:06:00.420 Sure.

00:06:00.540 And make a lot more sense

00:06:01.480 now that we're really going

00:06:03.260 and uncovering this stuff

00:06:04.360 and understanding the Bible

00:06:05.780 and this weird journey

00:06:07.040 that we have going on.

00:06:08.800 Agreed.

00:06:09.200 I would say that

00:06:11.200 I was blessed

00:06:14.260 in a lot of ways

00:06:15.100 to not have adhered

00:06:18.020 passionately

00:06:18.960 to any one ideology.

00:06:21.120 I was never

00:06:22.040 religious growing up.

00:06:25.080 I didn't grow up

00:06:26.000 in a religious household.

00:06:27.660 When I stumbled upon

00:06:28.880 the ideas of, you know,

00:06:30.860 New Age movement

00:06:32.280 and things of this nature,

00:06:34.600 I always looked at them

00:06:36.160 in a way that

00:06:37.120 I just didn't allow my myself

00:06:40.520 to marry to the ideas.

00:06:42.660 I thought they were fascinating,

00:06:43.920 but very much

00:06:45.360 where I stand now,

00:06:47.140 I would say

00:06:48.900 that the biblical world lens

00:06:50.500 or the Christian world lens

00:06:51.600 is the most accurate lens

00:06:52.900 to see these events through.

00:06:55.200 We're in an interesting time

00:06:56.400 right now,

00:06:56.920 I'm sure,

00:06:58.020 very much so for you, Joseph,

00:07:00.480 where we have characters

00:07:02.600 like Tucker Carlson

00:07:04.000 going and making the rounds

00:07:05.940 on big platforms

00:07:08.460 to large audiences

00:07:10.840 saying things like

00:07:12.500 the alien phenomenon

00:07:15.720 is spiritual in nature,

00:07:17.180 it's biblical in nature,

00:07:18.400 it's of the Nephilim, 0.55

00:07:20.100 maybe he's speculating.

00:07:22.340 And I find it fascinating

00:07:24.000 that you said

00:07:26.800 only moments ago

00:07:28.360 this community

00:07:29.780 is very resistant

00:07:32.200 to this idea.

00:07:34.240 certainly there's a part

00:07:35.760 of the UFO phenomenon

00:07:38.620 community

00:07:39.200 that is accepting it

00:07:41.280 and exploring it

00:07:42.120 and we communicate

00:07:45.160 with a great deal

00:07:47.240 of people.

00:07:48.220 I don't know

00:07:48.700 if you're familiar

00:07:49.140 with Vicki Joy Anderson

00:07:51.480 or L.A. Marzulli

00:07:53.500 who have a lot

00:07:55.480 of really excellent ideas

00:07:58.280 as far as their connection

00:08:00.220 to biblical entities

00:08:02.440 but yet

00:08:04.600 there is this aspect

00:08:05.980 of the community

00:08:06.700 that

00:08:07.200 is highly resistant

00:08:10.580 to this concept

00:08:11.960 and especially

00:08:12.660 what we're going to get

00:08:13.320 into here today.

00:08:14.880 What do you think

00:08:15.700 that is?

00:08:16.120 Is this a matter

00:08:17.160 of cutting your teeth

00:08:18.940 in an industry

00:08:20.080 where

00:08:20.900 not only

00:08:22.500 is it

00:08:24.180 difficult to research

00:08:26.080 because the information

00:08:28.280 is obfuscated

00:08:30.760 but

00:08:31.160 you

00:08:32.580 make

00:08:34.040 your name

00:08:35.260 in a field

00:08:36.660 where you are

00:08:38.120 being ridiculed

00:08:39.200 for the first

00:08:41.340 you know

00:08:42.240 for decades

00:08:43.480 you know

00:08:44.180 to study the phenomenon

00:08:45.380 is to be ridiculed

00:08:46.360 by the general public

00:08:47.260 and you go

00:08:48.380 through this chastising

00:08:49.600 and then

00:08:50.960 as that ridicule

00:08:53.320 starts to soften

00:08:54.200 maybe you're

00:08:56.560 still hardened

00:08:57.780 from the experience

00:08:58.980 and so

00:08:59.560 anything that goes

00:09:00.380 against this narrative

00:09:01.260 that you've

00:09:02.060 dug your feet in on 0.65

00:09:03.680 all the while

00:09:05.700 having stones

00:09:06.520 thrown at you

00:09:07.320 well

00:09:08.100 you know

00:09:09.200 you've built up

00:09:09.900 defenses

00:09:10.460 and maybe you don't

00:09:11.460 want to lower

00:09:11.880 those defenses

00:09:12.440 to consider something else

00:09:13.800 especially because

00:09:14.640 in the beginning

00:09:15.680 it seemed that

00:09:16.800 the UFO phenomenon

00:09:17.720 and the new age

00:09:18.440 community flew in the face

00:09:19.680 of the religious

00:09:21.140 community

00:09:21.600 well

00:09:23.020 keep in mind

00:09:23.920 the transition

00:09:24.980 that this phenomenon

00:09:26.040 has gone through

00:09:27.080 you know

00:09:27.920 back in the

00:09:28.620 late 50s

00:09:29.480 mid to late 50s

00:09:30.520 we were dealing

00:09:31.060 with the contactee

00:09:32.100 phenomenon

00:09:32.520 where

00:09:33.840 they had the

00:09:34.800 giant rock

00:09:35.500 you know

00:09:36.040 gatherings out

00:09:37.220 in the desert

00:09:37.780 where all the

00:09:39.020 you know

00:09:40.280 the crazy UFO

00:09:41.160 people would go to

00:09:42.180 but it was about

00:09:43.360 to contact

00:09:44.120 the experience

00:09:44.840 a lot of people

00:09:45.460 were saying

00:09:46.620 that they had

00:09:47.160 been in contact

00:09:47.960 with these

00:09:48.660 these entities

00:09:49.540 back then

00:09:50.880 the contactees

00:09:52.100 were saying

00:09:52.640 that the

00:09:53.760 beings look

00:09:54.620 just like us

00:09:55.900 okay

00:09:56.560 I mean just like us

00:09:57.980 and they were from

00:09:59.040 planets in our

00:10:00.320 solar system

00:10:01.060 they had the

00:10:01.700 Venusians

00:10:02.260 they had people

00:10:03.120 from the Mars

00:10:03.920 they had all sorts

00:10:05.160 of different

00:10:05.720 beings coming

00:10:06.880 from our

00:10:07.520 solar system

00:10:08.360 and then

00:10:09.740 once NASA

00:10:11.080 was able to get

00:10:12.200 their probes

00:10:13.140 out there

00:10:13.660 to where we could

00:10:14.800 actually look

00:10:15.520 at these planets

00:10:16.300 you know

00:10:16.980 and get a view

00:10:18.440 on and get

00:10:19.060 statistics on

00:10:20.300 the science

00:10:20.820 of them

00:10:21.200 we realized

00:10:22.200 these things

00:10:23.260 are not

00:10:23.720 habitable at all

00:10:24.760 we don't have

00:10:25.360 a planet

00:10:25.740 in our system

00:10:26.480 that's habitable

00:10:27.240 with Earth

00:10:27.900 next thing you know

00:10:29.840 those beings

00:10:31.320 are no longer

00:10:32.080 around

00:10:32.600 and they're being

00:10:33.600 replaced by

00:10:34.600 beings like 0.78

00:10:36.160 the reptilians

00:10:37.320 like the greys

00:10:38.380 like you know

00:10:39.260 any everything else

00:10:40.400 in the mix

00:10:41.020 but now they're

00:10:42.020 coming from

00:10:42.580 a far star

00:10:43.440 system that

00:10:44.120 we can't reach

00:10:45.180 and can't

00:10:45.760 verify

00:10:46.180 and their

00:10:47.500 messages have

00:10:48.300 changed completely

00:10:49.280 in the communication

00:10:50.400 you know

00:10:51.520 why does that

00:10:52.380 happen

00:10:52.640 how can that

00:10:53.280 even be possible

00:10:54.240 if we're

00:10:55.740 dealing with

00:10:56.320 an extraterrestrial

00:10:58.800 race

00:10:59.120 why did it

00:10:59.680 all change

00:11:00.820 and basically

00:11:02.460 it was a

00:11:02.960 cultural change

00:11:03.900 that they were

00:11:04.800 adapting to

00:11:05.620 our cultural

00:11:06.480 change

00:11:07.040 and then by

00:11:08.320 about 2008

00:11:09.520 is when I

00:11:09.980 first started

00:11:10.560 hearing the

00:11:11.100 inklings

00:11:11.600 of another

00:11:13.400 change

00:11:14.020 you know

00:11:14.660 everything was

00:11:15.240 about an

00:11:15.660 extraterrestrial

00:11:16.400 biological

00:11:17.200 entity

00:11:17.900 a being

00:11:18.580 from another

00:11:19.140 system

00:11:19.700 you know

00:11:20.520 a planet

00:11:21.200 but by

00:11:22.860 2008

00:11:23.520 I had the

00:11:24.220 opportunity

00:11:24.720 to be the

00:11:25.700 director

00:11:26.400 of the

00:11:27.040 conference

00:11:27.500 for the

00:11:27.980 city of

00:11:29.300 Roswell

00:11:29.700 UFO

00:11:30.200 festival

00:11:30.740 in 2008

00:11:31.720 and the

00:11:33.240 speakers

00:11:33.840 that I

00:11:34.240 brought

00:11:34.440 for that

00:11:34.880 conference

00:11:35.480 were saying

00:11:36.960 things that

00:11:37.520 I was just

00:11:38.520 absolutely

00:11:39.120 surprised to

00:11:40.060 hear

00:11:40.280 because they

00:11:41.020 were supporting

00:11:41.700 what I was

00:11:42.340 finding all

00:11:42.940 of a sudden

00:11:43.440 and I was

00:11:44.840 hearing chatter

00:11:45.580 from their

00:11:46.180 talks

00:11:46.620 saying

00:11:47.420 maybe we

00:11:49.440 need to

00:11:49.800 look at

00:11:50.120 this from

00:11:50.580 another

00:11:50.900 perspective

00:11:51.500 or maybe

00:11:52.780 this is not

00:11:53.480 what we

00:11:53.840 think it

00:11:54.340 is

00:11:54.640 maybe we

00:11:55.280 might be

00:11:55.680 dealing with

00:11:56.220 something

00:11:56.620 you know

00:11:57.060 maybe on

00:11:57.600 an

00:11:57.740 interdimensional

00:11:58.440 level

00:11:59.020 and this

00:12:00.060 was the

00:12:00.260 first times

00:12:00.760 we started

00:12:01.240 hearing that

00:12:01.900 you know

00:12:02.540 from the

00:12:02.900 major

00:12:03.300 talking heads

00:12:05.080 in the UFO

00:12:05.700 you know

00:12:06.340 field

00:12:06.660 and then

00:12:07.900 it started

00:12:08.360 to continue

00:12:08.980 from there

00:12:09.620 so we've

00:12:10.160 made another

00:12:10.660 transition

00:12:11.400 now where

00:12:12.540 people are

00:12:13.000 starting to

00:12:13.600 possibly think

00:12:15.100 this might be

00:12:15.820 something that's

00:12:16.560 other dimensional

00:12:17.440 interdimensional

00:12:18.620 extra dimensional

00:12:19.680 whatever name

00:12:20.920 they want to

00:12:21.420 put on it

00:12:22.020 but as

00:12:22.880 Christians

00:12:23.220 we just

00:12:23.740 call it

00:12:24.140 they're from

00:12:24.660 the spiritual

00:12:25.080 realm

00:12:25.400 you know

00:12:26.140 they just

00:12:26.600 they don't

00:12:27.140 have the

00:12:27.580 vocabulary

00:12:28.080 to describe

00:12:29.220 what we

00:12:29.680 already know

00:12:30.340 it is

00:12:30.760 as Christians

00:12:31.400 but we

00:12:32.560 still have

00:12:33.320 a set

00:12:33.820 a split

00:12:34.380 community

00:12:34.880 now

00:12:35.240 because

00:12:35.540 of this

00:12:36.160 everything

00:12:37.480 you're hearing

00:12:38.220 out of the

00:12:38.720 congressional

00:12:39.260 hearings

00:12:39.880 is about

00:12:41.180 EBE

00:12:42.400 not

00:12:43.580 interdimensional

00:12:44.340 okay

00:12:45.260 they're trying

00:12:46.420 to push

00:12:46.980 an agenda

00:12:47.600 the government's

00:12:48.500 pushing an

00:12:49.100 agenda

00:12:49.560 that this

00:12:50.560 is not

00:12:51.380 anything

00:12:52.500 other than

00:12:53.240 physical

00:12:53.680 okay

00:12:54.520 why

00:12:55.760 I think

00:12:56.420 Tucker Carlson

00:12:57.320 said it best

00:12:58.080 on his interview

00:12:58.740 with Sean Ryan

00:12:59.600 he said

00:13:00.780 they don't

00:13:01.980 want us

00:13:02.760 to look

00:13:03.280 at the

00:13:03.600 spiritual

00:13:04.060 that's what

00:13:05.420 they're trying

00:13:05.920 to prevent

00:13:06.360 us from

00:13:06.880 doing

00:13:07.220 and everything

00:13:08.340 I found

00:13:09.040 in my

00:13:09.480 research

00:13:10.020 and even

00:13:10.480 Jack Vallée

00:13:11.220 saw it

00:13:11.720 30 some

00:13:12.340 years ago

00:13:13.000 and you

00:13:14.400 know

00:13:14.600 a number

00:13:15.920 of the

00:13:16.180 other

00:13:16.420 researchers

00:13:16.960 along with

00:13:17.620 them

00:13:17.780 that they

00:13:18.580 were starting

00:13:19.080 to see

00:13:19.540 that this

00:13:20.060 is not

00:13:20.660 what it

00:13:21.180 appears

00:13:21.560 to be

00:13:21.960 it appears

00:13:22.440 to be

00:13:22.780 something

00:13:23.140 other

00:13:23.560 you know

00:13:24.100 other than

00:13:24.680 seems to

00:13:25.600 have been

00:13:25.880 here for

00:13:26.280 a long

00:13:26.640 time

00:13:27.040 seems to

00:13:28.180 be indigenous

00:13:28.880 to earth

00:13:29.560 we don't

00:13:30.220 see

00:13:30.460 UFOs

00:13:31.280 or UAPs

00:13:32.000 coming in

00:13:32.540 from the

00:13:32.900 outside

00:13:33.360 of our

00:13:33.760 atmosphere

00:13:34.240 everything

00:13:35.320 is here

00:13:36.060 and then

00:13:36.880 the abilities

00:13:37.720 of these

00:13:38.340 things

00:13:38.740 are saying

00:13:39.960 that this

00:13:40.440 is not

00:13:40.760 something

00:13:41.120 that an

00:13:41.560 extraterrestrial

00:13:42.180 biological

00:13:42.780 entity

00:13:43.240 can do

00:13:43.740 so now

00:13:44.600 we have

00:13:44.960 a split

00:13:45.420 community

00:13:46.000 we have

00:13:47.000 a community

00:13:47.480 of researchers

00:13:48.360 secular

00:13:48.880 researchers

00:13:49.500 that are

00:13:49.980 seeing

00:13:50.460 that this

00:13:51.620 is something

00:13:52.340 other than

00:13:53.140 physical

00:13:53.660 okay

00:13:54.600 Dr. Jack

00:13:56.460 Sarfardi

00:13:57.380 one of the

00:13:57.920 leading

00:13:58.200 physicists

00:13:58.680 in the

00:13:59.100 world

00:13:59.420 he

00:14:00.160 describes

00:14:00.840 these

00:14:01.520 so-called

00:14:02.640 objects

00:14:03.780 that they're

00:14:04.260 seeing

00:14:04.680 as UAPs 0.66

00:14:05.820 and this

00:14:07.280 is coming

00:14:07.700 from a

00:14:08.160 secular

00:14:08.500 scientist

00:14:09.040 but it

00:14:09.780 was amazing

00:14:10.420 when I

00:14:10.800 heard him

00:14:11.280 give this

00:14:11.740 description

00:14:12.200 he says

00:14:13.400 it's like

00:14:14.360 it's a

00:14:15.180 skin

00:14:15.780 that we

00:14:16.840 see

00:14:17.260 for the

00:14:18.160 appearance

00:14:18.700 but inside

00:14:20.280 it's

00:14:20.760 consciousness

00:14:21.460 excuse me

00:14:23.660 he's describing

00:14:25.300 an angelic

00:14:26.040 manifestation

00:14:26.900 okay

00:14:28.080 when angels

00:14:29.480 manifest

00:14:30.080 into our

00:14:30.880 realm

00:14:31.280 they take

00:14:31.980 on an

00:14:32.380 appearance

00:14:33.140 of whatever

00:14:34.240 they need

00:14:34.920 to appear

00:14:35.620 as

00:14:36.000 because

00:14:36.320 they're

00:14:36.760 not

00:14:37.140 physical

00:14:37.660 they're

00:14:38.620 a spiritual

00:14:39.220 being

00:14:39.720 that can

00:14:40.120 take on

00:14:40.660 that

00:14:40.880 appearance

00:14:41.720 of

00:14:42.500 physical

00:14:42.980 for a

00:14:43.800 temporary

00:14:44.160 time

00:14:44.660 that they're

00:14:45.060 here

00:14:45.320 this is

00:14:46.080 exactly

00:14:46.640 what we're

00:14:47.120 seeing

00:14:47.520 but the

00:14:48.240 government

00:14:48.560 says

00:14:48.840 oh

00:14:49.100 no

00:14:49.920 no

00:14:50.100 no

00:14:50.340 we've

00:14:50.760 got

00:14:50.960 solid

00:14:51.780 craft

00:14:52.240 we got

00:14:52.640 dead

00:14:53.140 bodies

00:14:53.620 you know

00:14:53.920 we got

00:14:54.260 material

00:14:54.860 this is

00:14:55.980 anything

00:14:56.420 other than

00:14:57.340 spiritual

00:14:57.920 or interdimensional

00:14:58.740 and I

00:14:59.740 think this

00:15:00.280 my feeling

00:15:01.540 on this

00:15:02.080 is they

00:15:02.620 know the

00:15:03.180 truth

00:15:03.480 they just

00:15:04.800 don't want

00:15:05.260 that truth

00:15:05.920 out there

00:15:06.460 because that

00:15:07.560 truth

00:15:07.960 would change

00:15:09.160 everything

00:15:09.680 you know

00:15:10.880 back in

00:15:11.360 the

00:15:11.500 back in

00:15:12.160 65

00:15:12.620 NASA

00:15:13.280 had this

00:15:14.480 concern

00:15:15.860 about

00:15:17.620 what happens

00:15:18.440 if they

00:15:19.320 actually did

00:15:20.060 find an

00:15:20.720 artifact

00:15:21.060 or

00:15:22.360 or microbial

00:15:23.560 life

00:15:23.920 or something

00:15:24.420 out there

00:15:24.940 and their

00:15:25.200 probes

00:15:25.640 and their

00:15:26.060 you know

00:15:26.680 things they

00:15:27.240 send out

00:15:27.820 and says

00:15:28.720 yeah we're

00:15:29.340 not alone

00:15:29.940 not that it

00:15:31.160 may be

00:15:31.720 intelligent life

00:15:32.780 but just

00:15:33.340 that there

00:15:33.780 is other

00:15:34.340 life

00:15:34.700 because right

00:15:35.180 now we

00:15:35.500 have nothing

00:15:36.040 and they

00:15:37.260 were concerned

00:15:37.860 how does

00:15:38.300 that affect

00:15:38.700 humanity

00:15:39.140 so they

00:15:40.020 went through

00:15:40.780 and paid

00:15:41.700 for the

00:15:42.060 Brookings

00:15:42.460 report

00:15:42.920 to get

00:15:44.300 an answer

00:15:44.680 for that

00:15:45.120 to see

00:15:45.460 what that

00:15:45.780 think tank

00:15:46.400 thought

00:15:46.800 would happen

00:15:47.420 and the

00:15:49.240 UFO

00:15:49.600 loves

00:15:50.060 the UFO

00:15:50.680 community

00:15:51.100 loves to

00:15:51.800 use that

00:15:52.300 Brookings

00:15:52.800 report

00:15:53.180 and they

00:15:53.440 only use

00:15:53.840 a part

00:15:54.220 of it

00:15:54.540 for their

00:15:55.240 purposes

00:15:55.700 and it's

00:15:56.900 oh yeah

00:15:57.580 the people

00:15:58.180 of faith

00:15:58.700 are going

00:15:59.000 to have

00:15:59.320 to be

00:15:59.660 all upset

00:16:00.300 about it

00:16:00.800 it's going

00:16:01.500 to turn

00:16:01.860 the churches

00:16:02.360 and everything

00:16:03.020 and people

00:16:03.500 of faith

00:16:03.900 upside down

00:16:04.660 so that

00:16:05.300 was a big

00:16:05.780 fear

00:16:06.240 at that

00:16:07.120 time

00:16:07.480 but now

00:16:08.360 when I

00:16:08.720 look at

00:16:09.120 this

00:16:09.440 I think

00:16:10.040 it's

00:16:10.300 absolutely

00:16:10.840 the opposite

00:16:11.660 and I

00:16:12.140 think they

00:16:12.520 know this

00:16:13.160 I think

00:16:14.220 if the

00:16:15.760 truth

00:16:16.040 was to

00:16:16.680 come out

00:16:17.200 and I

00:16:17.520 do believe

00:16:18.040 they know

00:16:18.460 it

00:16:18.620 I think

00:16:19.640 they're going

00:16:19.980 to lose

00:16:20.420 control

00:16:21.100 and that's

00:16:22.280 what they're

00:16:22.660 trying to

00:16:23.140 hold on

00:16:23.660 to

00:16:23.880 is control

00:16:24.720 because if

00:16:25.780 you actually

00:16:26.300 come out

00:16:28.000 and confirm

00:16:28.580 that this

00:16:29.100 is a

00:16:29.500 spiritual

00:16:30.820 being

00:16:31.320 or an

00:16:31.640 interdimensional

00:16:32.140 being

00:16:32.580 or something

00:16:33.420 like that

00:16:34.000 and the

00:16:34.400 rest of

00:16:35.180 the church

00:16:35.680 and people

00:16:36.460 of faith

00:16:36.940 even Muslims

00:16:37.760 understand

00:16:38.420 what the

00:16:38.820 djinn are 1.00

00:16:39.260 and that's

00:16:40.100 what they

00:16:40.380 call these

00:16:40.840 beings

00:16:41.280 in the heat

00:16:42.160 of battle

00:16:42.600 your squad

00:16:43.260 relies on

00:16:43.880 you

00:16:44.080 don't let

00:16:44.680 them down

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00:17:06.280 lenovo

00:17:07.440 lenovo

00:17:08.660 so the

00:17:13.340 thing is

00:17:13.920 it would

00:17:14.240 validate

00:17:15.140 our faith

00:17:15.960 and that's

00:17:17.040 what they're

00:17:17.380 afraid of

00:17:17.940 because if

00:17:18.920 we have

00:17:19.320 true faith

00:17:20.080 that our

00:17:20.360 trust is in

00:17:21.060 god and

00:17:21.540 jesus christ

00:17:22.220 alone

00:17:22.600 we don't

00:17:23.480 need the

00:17:23.820 government

00:17:24.160 and that's

00:17:25.200 what they're

00:17:25.520 afraid of

00:17:26.100 i truly

00:17:26.740 believe that's

00:17:27.600 what we're

00:17:27.900 dealing with

00:17:28.440 right now

00:17:29.100 that's why

00:17:29.640 we're not

00:17:30.180 going to get

00:17:30.600 disclosure

00:17:31.120 you will

00:17:32.100 not see

00:17:32.620 disclosure

00:17:33.160 they're giving

00:17:34.340 us a soft

00:17:34.980 disclosure

00:17:35.480 they want us

00:17:36.320 to figure it

00:17:36.880 out but

00:17:37.960 it's still

00:17:38.360 it can't

00:17:38.840 come from

00:17:39.260 them because

00:17:39.760 they can't

00:17:40.300 admit to

00:17:40.700 that because

00:17:41.200 then they

00:17:41.480 would lose

00:17:41.900 that control

00:17:42.580 man sorry

00:17:47.440 to start off

00:17:48.100 so hard

00:17:48.620 no i i

00:17:49.780 love it i

00:17:50.300 think that's a

00:17:50.920 perfect place

00:17:51.800 to go and

00:17:52.360 and and uh

00:17:53.480 the segue

00:17:54.260 that that's

00:17:55.260 coming next

00:17:55.860 i'm excited

00:17:56.260 for guys uh

00:17:57.560 just so you're

00:17:58.280 aware this is a

00:17:59.000 limited preview

00:17:59.660 uh for our

00:18:00.880 youtube and

00:18:01.560 rumble viewers

00:18:02.180 if you want to

00:18:02.720 continue watching

00:18:03.460 the show uh

00:18:04.720 patreon.com

00:18:05.580 backslash

00:18:06.060 nephilim 1.00

00:18:06.420 death squad

00:18:06.980 and otherwise 0.99

00:18:08.540 uh you can

00:18:10.040 go to uh you 0.54

00:18:12.180 can wait till

00:18:12.580 next week till

00:18:13.140 the episode drops

00:18:13.820 in its totality

00:18:14.420 so honestly

00:18:15.260 that felt a

00:18:16.020 little bit dirty

00:18:16.580 doing to the

00:18:17.640 people after he

00:18:18.500 just like really

00:18:19.180 just dropped

00:18:19.660 that bomb we're

00:18:20.180 like by the way

00:18:20.860 oh my god

00:18:23.140 all right please

00:18:23.780 continue this is i

00:18:24.900 don't even want

00:18:25.600 to interrupt this is i

00:18:26.720 do want to because

00:18:27.640 because this is let's

00:18:29.080 lay the groundwork for

00:18:29.820 what's about to

00:18:30.360 happen so so um

00:18:32.580 within the

00:18:34.120 experiencers uh

00:18:36.840 community people

00:18:37.640 that are abductee

00:18:39.260 victims um and

00:18:42.560 there's there's also

00:18:43.800 a lot of other

00:18:44.360 evidence outside of

00:18:45.160 this for example

00:18:45.740 there's this one

00:18:46.280 video that i like to

00:18:47.160 talk about quite

00:18:48.360 often where uh this

00:18:50.080 gentleman who is

00:18:51.600 uh he calls he

00:18:54.520 says that he is a

00:18:55.940 a a deliverer you

00:18:57.640 know he drives an

00:18:58.240 18-wheeler he he

00:18:59.280 delivers commodity uh

00:19:00.660 to uh government

00:19:02.520 sites military bases

00:19:03.960 oftentimes he would

00:19:06.020 deliver to uh what

00:19:07.960 people would call 0.94

00:19:08.620 dumbs deep underground

00:19:09.640 military bases and

00:19:11.120 these weren't things

00:19:11.700 that were supposed to

00:19:12.340 be coveted or secret

00:19:13.820 but he said you know

00:19:14.720 you would drive into

00:19:15.640 uh an entryway that

00:19:18.900 was the guy in

00:19:19.580 raven rock i don't

00:19:21.100 know if he was in

00:19:21.640 raven rock uh the the

00:19:23.340 details escaped me but

00:19:24.520 he would drive into

00:19:25.440 tunnels that were in

00:19:26.460 the sides of of

00:19:27.600 mountains that you

00:19:28.600 know he'd go uh

00:19:30.140 considerably deep

00:19:30.900 into and just drop

00:19:32.880 off whatever it was

00:19:33.880 it could be well a

00:19:35.020 lot of times he didn't

00:19:35.540 even know what he was

00:19:36.080 carrying but uh he

00:19:38.020 became friendly with

00:19:38.800 one of the the guards

00:19:39.960 down there and i

00:19:41.320 believe the guard said

00:19:42.520 something to him

00:19:43.400 uh explicitly about

00:19:45.140 not using the name of

00:19:46.360 jesus christ while in

00:19:47.600 the facility which as

00:19:49.480 a non-religious person

00:19:50.760 he found you know kind

00:19:52.940 of confusing and

00:19:53.700 fascinating but that

00:19:54.500 was really the end of

00:19:55.200 it uh and he said

00:19:56.500 one of the other

00:19:56.920 things that happened

00:19:57.620 down there uh is

00:19:58.780 that he swore at

00:20:00.040 one point uh he

00:20:01.020 saw a a man but

00:20:04.140 judging by the size

00:20:05.560 of him off in the

00:20:06.180 distance he was you

00:20:07.220 know 16 feet plus

00:20:08.700 um but within the

00:20:12.460 experiencers community

00:20:13.960 you really hear this

00:20:15.880 uh myself i've suffered

00:20:18.300 from uh sleep paralysis

00:20:19.760 and events that mirror

00:20:21.280 very much um testimony

00:20:23.500 testimony from uh abductee

00:20:26.040 victims and have used

00:20:29.280 this methodology myself

00:20:31.080 to to to stop the

00:20:32.740 event there is no

00:20:34.200 shortage within the

00:20:36.300 abductee community of 0.89

00:20:38.840 stories uh and make of

00:20:41.240 them what you will to

00:20:43.020 dr jerry marzynski's

00:20:44.380 point who's a clinical

00:20:45.480 psychologist uh who

00:20:46.700 believes that

00:20:47.160 schizophrenia is actually

00:20:48.900 a demonic influence or

00:20:50.360 or influenced by

00:20:51.520 entities he says that

00:20:53.560 these things are often

00:20:54.820 dismissed as

00:20:55.700 hallucinations however

00:20:57.460 hallucinations by

00:20:58.740 definition do not

00:21:00.000 adhere to patterns

00:21:01.920 discernible patterns uh

00:21:03.840 he has boiled down

00:21:06.380 schizophrenia to 23

00:21:07.980 discernible patterns uh

00:21:10.040 within the abductee

00:21:11.800 community there is

00:21:13.240 certainly a string of

00:21:14.860 discernible patterns in

00:21:16.220 the way that these

00:21:16.940 things tend to unfold

00:21:18.160 but very many people

00:21:21.880 have described the

00:21:23.960 ability to stop these

00:21:26.440 encounters to stop uh

00:21:28.800 being abducted in the

00:21:29.880 middle of the night to

00:21:30.840 stop being beset upon by

00:21:32.540 uh shadow entities uh

00:21:35.620 small greys tall skinny

00:21:37.120 greys you know the the

00:21:38.300 array of various entities

00:21:40.140 uh you know described as

00:21:42.320 as aliens right now that

00:21:44.220 people uh can be visited

00:21:45.660 by and these entire

00:21:47.640 experiences are often

00:21:49.620 stopped in their tracks

00:21:51.160 by calling upon the name

00:21:52.640 of jesus christ and

00:21:55.120 this is one of the things

00:21:57.840 that we alluded to at the

00:21:58.760 top of the show that does

00:21:59.720 not mesh well with uh a

00:22:02.220 certain portion of the

00:22:03.400 community who is studying

00:22:04.700 this phenomenon and um

00:22:06.900 you know to your point

00:22:08.720 about the government not

00:22:10.840 wanting us to know and i

00:22:12.140 know i'm going to throw a

00:22:12.940 bunch of wrenches in here

00:22:14.180 we warned you at the top

00:22:15.360 of the show that we

00:22:16.240 weren't the sharpest

00:22:17.320 knives in the drawer so

00:22:18.620 we're going to steer this

00:22:19.940 everywhere but one of the

00:22:22.100 things that you said uh

00:22:23.280 about the government not

00:22:24.100 wanting people to know

00:22:25.080 might not only be because

00:22:28.560 it would vindicate our

00:22:30.200 faith because this is of a

00:22:32.340 spiritual nature but also

00:22:33.560 because there's a high

00:22:36.260 likelihood that our

00:22:37.860 government is working in

00:22:39.900 tandem with these

00:22:41.220 spiritual entities uh a tale

00:22:43.800 as old as time i think

00:22:45.380 it's reagan who was

00:22:46.660 rumored to have done it

00:22:47.760 uh striking deals with

00:22:50.580 these entities take x

00:22:53.520 amount of people and give

00:22:54.920 to us in exchange uh

00:22:56.840 information knowledge you

00:22:59.080 know technology things of

00:23:00.820 that nature um this has

00:23:02.480 been something that uh

00:23:04.740 human beings have have done

00:23:06.200 with these these lowercase g

00:23:08.280 gods these fallen entities

00:23:09.640 uh since the dawn of time

00:23:11.420 they give us things we

00:23:13.360 sacrifice to them and so

00:23:15.400 uh that might actually be

00:23:17.060 part of this nefarious reason

00:23:18.980 as as to why they won't

00:23:20.160 let us know but i'll let you

00:23:22.160 continue uh i'll hand you

00:23:24.700 that and uh and you can

00:23:26.220 decide where we go from

00:23:27.080 there you know i've i've

00:23:28.680 heard that story that

00:23:30.400 possibility that theory over

00:23:32.280 the years that i've been

00:23:33.380 doing this i don't see any

00:23:36.340 evidence for it i mean it's

00:23:37.880 a possibility they're

00:23:38.980 working with sinister

00:23:39.940 forces i have it's a good

00:23:42.160 possibility they are i mean

00:23:44.280 we already see that all

00:23:46.360 through hollywood where

00:23:47.380 people have given their

00:23:48.320 lives up to something

00:23:49.340 that's allowed them to you

00:23:51.920 know be successful and of

00:23:54.720 course they it's like they've

00:23:57.420 sold their soul for fame and

00:23:59.240 fortune and i think you know

00:24:01.540 the government can do the

00:24:03.540 same thing people in power

00:24:05.120 will do the same thing to

00:24:06.560 get more power and i these

00:24:09.660 beings i have no doubt can

00:24:11.080 offer you abilities and

00:24:12.860 things that will help your

00:24:14.520 career on the other hand

00:24:17.460 though um this idea that

00:24:19.400 they are um have given up

00:24:22.620 you know so many people in

00:24:25.020 exchange i don't see that in

00:24:27.240 my research as being a valid

00:24:29.300 idea what i found in the

00:24:31.920 research um very early on

00:24:34.980 when i started getting

00:24:36.120 numerous cases i've i

00:24:37.760 stopped counting a long

00:24:38.860 time ago but i was over

00:24:40.640 600 testimonials that i was

00:24:42.800 able to work with over the

00:24:44.160 time and i'm still got

00:24:45.220 stories coming in and

00:24:46.400 people that are constantly

00:24:47.960 asking for help that i got to

00:24:49.380 work with it just never

00:24:51.240 stops you know once you get

00:24:53.080 this information out there

00:24:54.360 now they know who to come to

00:24:55.620 to share their story with

00:24:56.840 where nobody else would take

00:24:58.240 that story you know the

00:25:00.980 the what i found was

00:25:03.140 answers to two questions in

00:25:04.820 the beginning when i started

00:25:06.340 getting these testimonials

00:25:07.780 you know into a a number of

00:25:10.420 them coming in what i found

00:25:12.620 was the the answers for

00:25:14.600 were the two questions that

00:25:16.080 the ufo community research

00:25:18.760 community is still asking to

00:25:20.440 today can this experience be

00:25:22.400 terminated and it's not just

00:25:24.380 terminated as one time

00:25:27.580 stopping it because if you if

00:25:30.520 you go back to 2004 and

00:25:33.080 druffle uh another mufon 1.00

00:25:36.040 researcher she actually

00:25:38.640 published a book stop alien

00:25:40.320 stopping alien abductions and

00:25:42.800 calling out to a higher power

00:25:45.160 was just one of them on a list

00:25:47.260 of things that people were

00:25:48.980 saying that they were able to

00:25:50.320 use to stop an abduction and i

00:25:53.040 thought oh we're in trouble

00:25:54.460 now because uh she's got a 1.00

00:25:56.560 bunch of other ways that it

00:25:57.760 works but one of my partners

00:26:00.400 in our uh research group

00:26:02.220 pastor chris ward i was working

00:26:04.260 with and uh he said uh don't

00:26:07.980 worry about this it's just a

00:26:09.540 matter of terminology that we're

00:26:11.120 dealing with here you need to

00:26:13.400 stress that it's not just

00:26:14.680 stopping the abduction that

00:26:16.080 you're showing in your

00:26:17.040 testimonials it's termination of

00:26:19.540 the experience as a life

00:26:20.920 pattern and that can only be

00:26:23.400 done through a personal

00:26:24.520 relationship with jesus christ

00:26:26.620 and following his teachings in

00:26:28.780 your life because that covers

00:26:31.420 answer the question number two

00:26:33.160 that we found answers for the

00:26:36.420 answer the question number two is

00:26:38.080 why does this happen to certain

00:26:40.720 people why do people have this

00:26:43.540 abduction experience in the first

00:26:45.440 place you know and all over the ufo

00:26:48.400 community the the answers for this

00:26:50.520 or the speculation for this runs

00:26:52.400 the gamut you know it's because

00:26:54.600 uh they're of such you know so so

00:26:58.060 whatever background heritage or

00:27:01.880 they're all blue-eyed or they're you

00:27:04.540 know they're all o positive you know

00:27:06.380 bloodline or you know there's a

00:27:09.000 there's a demonic bloodline they have

00:27:10.940 but none of that is the answer for

00:27:12.940 this the answer to why people have

00:27:15.680 this experience is actually

00:27:17.220 threefold you either fit one of

00:27:20.240 these answers i'm going to give you

00:27:21.760 or you're you it you fit you know a

00:27:25.460 number of the three answers or you

00:27:27.180 fit all three who knows but i have to

00:27:29.560 look into your background to be able

00:27:31.080 to get to that root cause of where

00:27:34.120 this come from in your life the first

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00:28:02.260 people actually ask for this experience

00:28:10.960 and you're like what you know people

00:28:13.780 ask for an abduction experience you have

00:28:16.560 no idea i myself was one of those guys

00:28:20.220 that this is back before i even got into

00:28:23.440 the new age back when i was an agnostic

00:28:25.780 humanist trying to understand what this

00:28:27.600 phenomenon is about right in the very

00:28:29.220 beginning of all my research and i used

00:28:32.800 to i ran i was a state section director

00:28:34.880 for mufon i had my own group here in

00:28:36.920 brevard county florida at the time but

00:28:39.640 there was another group in volusia

00:28:41.140 county uh in edgewater just south of

00:28:43.420 daytona that i used to go to once a

00:28:45.340 month and i would update them on

00:28:47.460 mufons they called me the mufon guy and 0.81

00:28:49.700 i would show up at their group and

00:28:51.940 update them on everything that we were

00:28:53.580 finding in mufon you know because they 1.00

00:28:55.600 didn't have a mufon rep at their group 1.00

00:28:57.320 but it was at that time i'll never

00:29:00.740 forget it i had a little dodge dakota

00:29:02.880 pickup truck i'd drive back and forth in

00:29:04.940 about 45 minutes down i-95 and i was so

00:29:08.420 frustrated from not finding any answers

00:29:10.680 i used to roll the window down and put

00:29:13.120 my head out the window and yell out

00:29:14.820 there show me something don't ever do

00:29:17.440 that really don't ever do that unless

00:29:20.780 you're talking straight to god himself

00:29:22.620 because if you're not talking to him

00:29:24.900 there's somebody else listening and

00:29:27.260 they'll give you something so you got to

00:29:29.280 be specific who you're asking that from

00:29:31.600 and of course that led into a whole

00:29:35.260 another nightmare in my life at that

00:29:36.920 time but joseph can i ask you something

00:29:39.280 so you you kind of reject the claim

00:29:41.660 that these guys uh these aliens might be

00:29:44.980 uh fallen angels or what where do you

00:29:48.580 put them then in this kaleidoscope of

00:29:50.780 i believe that i believe we're dealing

00:29:53.160 with fallen angel spirits or

00:29:55.120 i say it as demonic spirits because i i

00:29:58.980 can't put a definition on exactly who's

00:30:01.880 doing it but we do know in scripture

00:30:04.020 there's a hierarchy of the demonic realm

00:30:06.420 so i don't know what level we're dealing

00:30:08.280 with or we're dealing with the whole range

00:30:10.280 of them all mixed in with one major plan

00:30:12.780 so i say demonic spirits is what we're

00:30:16.260 dealing with

00:30:16.780 it was really your contention that uh or

00:30:19.700 or or where you deviated was whether or

00:30:21.960 not the government was

00:30:22.860 involved in some sort of uh yeah quid pro

00:30:25.780 quo sort of situation with these and

00:30:27.620 they they can be i mean it's possible

00:30:29.920 that

00:30:30.320 but you've just not done any evidence of

00:30:32.300 that

00:30:32.500 no not any evidence that that's that's

00:30:35.360 what's having these people taken

00:30:37.260 because the answers that i'm finding for

00:30:39.520 them being taken has got nothing to do

00:30:41.560 with that

00:30:41.980 you know like i said the first one you

00:30:44.320 ask for it the second group and i believe

00:30:47.040 is the largest maybe the largest group

00:30:49.320 maybe number three is i just don't have

00:30:51.500 enough info yet but the second answer

00:30:53.660 would be that you unknowingly open the

00:30:58.040 door in your life to allow these entities

00:31:01.460 to affect you in this way

00:31:03.260 what are those open doors anything that

00:31:07.320 god says in his word don't mess with

00:31:10.660 that okay you're dealing with the occult

00:31:14.380 you're dealing with the paranormal you're

00:31:16.360 dealing with new age practices any of

00:31:19.140 that says a billboard sign for these

00:31:22.780 entities

00:31:23.380 come visit me and that's where this comes

00:31:27.060 from

00:31:27.340 i find most people fall into that

00:31:29.920 category

00:31:30.500 but there was a third category that i took

00:31:33.700 me a while to figure out but i did

00:31:35.460 scripture backed it up

00:31:37.000 i had adults coming to me and saying i

00:31:40.280 don't fit those two categories i said

00:31:42.680 why not they said because i remember

00:31:44.240 having this as a child

00:31:45.840 i said all right you're right you probably

00:31:48.240 don't fit those two

00:31:49.340 so i had to figure out why was it

00:31:51.720 happening to them if it was a child if

00:31:54.060 they didn't do the first two

00:31:55.300 come to find out scripture talks about

00:31:58.280 spiritual head of the household covering

00:32:01.080 your family with spiritual covering

00:32:02.800 okay who's the head of the who's the

00:32:05.260 spiritual head of the household it's the

00:32:06.860 man

00:32:07.160 god put the man as a spiritual head of

00:32:09.320 the household if that man is not

00:32:11.300 taking care of his family and

00:32:13.080 the spiritual godly covering

00:32:14.940 he's as open

00:32:16.880 and his family is open to these

00:32:19.600 experiences

00:32:20.180 as well and that's what i found because

00:32:23.400 i went and asked them the questions

00:32:25.240 about what do you remember about your

00:32:26.880 family life back then

00:32:28.140 oh my the open doors are right there

00:32:30.880 with the parents

00:32:31.600 and that allows the children to be

00:32:33.780 affected by this so it's generational but

00:32:36.820 not genetically generational it's

00:32:39.540 socially generational it's like if you

00:32:41.960 grow up in an alcoholic family there's a

00:32:44.180 predisposition you'll become an

00:32:45.840 alcoholic

00:32:46.340 not because of genetics okay it's because

00:32:50.000 you grew up in that environment so

00:32:52.760 these are the three answers that i find

00:32:54.740 i've not found anybody that doesn't fit

00:32:57.240 those three

00:32:58.000 so the we found these answers that the

00:33:01.320 secular realm is still asking

00:33:02.840 speaking to uh

00:33:05.480 marzynski who i brought up earlier dr

00:33:08.300 marzynski he says with the

00:33:10.120 schizophrenia phenomenon

00:33:11.440 that people mistake it as a genetic

00:33:14.440 hereditary 0.66

00:33:15.300 event when in reality it is

00:33:18.060 a social one

00:33:20.320 in the sense absolutely if you have

00:33:22.900 someone in your

00:33:23.680 household let's say and i'm

00:33:25.880 certainly paraphrasing what he was

00:33:27.240 talking about but you would be exposed

00:33:29.180 to uh the same entities that they're

00:33:32.680 being uh you know exposed to and that

00:33:35.160 that could you know cause a for them to

00:33:38.280 cling on to you or it's it's interesting

00:33:40.660 because what you're saying is i've i've

00:33:43.320 had uh my fair share of run-ins with this

00:33:48.760 phenomenon myself um i would learn later on

00:33:52.040 that my grandmother was an experiencer from

00:33:57.460 childhood and that this actually is

00:34:01.200 something that more or less plagued her

00:34:03.440 she passed away when i was very young

00:34:05.000 but uh the way my family describes it is

00:34:08.240 this is something that she was struggling

00:34:10.440 with as a child and it led her to uh new age

00:34:16.500 yeah so my grandmother was you know uh she

00:34:22.200 thought that she was clairvoyant she wrote

00:34:25.160 papers on remote viewing uh you know she had

00:34:29.820 various crystals and things of that nature

00:34:32.660 and uh and unfortunately ended up passing away

00:34:36.900 uh rather young from alcohol related issues

00:34:40.860 uh i guess it would have been your liver

00:34:43.160 um and so and you know not to get too personal

00:34:47.240 although i constantly do on the show my

00:34:49.100 father wasn't around so as far as a door

00:34:52.080 being left open this is i mean it's incredible

00:34:56.320 it's it's right on the money you know i was i was

00:34:59.380 also reading that book uh by rebecca

00:35:01.180 rebecca brown he came to send the captive

00:35:03.580 free and yeah in it there's a i think there's a

00:35:06.840 couple paragraphs about um i know you'll

00:35:10.300 probably disagree with this hereditary thing

00:35:12.420 passed down but there's is scriptural evidence evidence that says uh the sins

00:35:17.380 of the father it's it's it's passed down three

00:35:19.860 four generations even because but that's that's not a genetic

00:35:23.920 pass down that's a spiritual pass down

00:35:26.340 right right okay all right these are different things yeah as if like you know

00:35:29.700 if this thing has a hold on your family

00:35:31.720 and and somebody dies it says hey i got right to that next guy

00:35:35.760 and no one else is claiming him it's the father's job to claim

00:35:38.780 until somebody breaks that once the first next person breaks that

00:35:43.740 then a scripture also says now your godly line goes to a thousand generations

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00:36:39.880 yep yeah exactly so you know david this could this ends right here for

00:36:49.960 for you and your son yeah i mean my my mother uh had uh you know struggled with these entities that

00:37:00.460 she's she's not a person that is uh religious she considers herself very scientific uh says she

00:37:07.360 doesn't believe but then will tell stories that she's like i don't know these weird things do

00:37:11.300 happen to me and it's like horrifying there's uh you know she's telling me stories of both her and

00:37:17.160 her uh her husband are hearing the footsteps of little people running through the house jiggling

00:37:24.360 doorknobs knocking things down to the point where they're they're both awake uh and you know he'll be in

00:37:31.160 the bathroom brushing his teeth she'll be in bed in the next room they know nobody else is in the house

00:37:37.180 but there's a definitive person running around and they'll both jump up and run into the hallway to see

00:37:42.820 what's going on uh so you know this is something that yeah certainly does seem to be uh generational

00:37:48.640 generational but not uh not of your genetics right this is something this is a spiritual

00:37:56.660 attachment can i ask you something joe uh joseph because we've been getting into this i don't i

00:38:02.340 don't know how far you delve into this but like there's this big question about genetics that is

00:38:08.020 getting kind of uh for me it's getting a little bit weird and uh some people are saying that if you

00:38:14.860 have these genetics that are traced back from the line of the nephilim that uh they're irredeemable but

00:38:22.260 i just i don't i'm not so sure that that's the case i don't think that in the heat of battle your

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00:38:51.480 this like one drop of blood idea taints a human being or what or even defines what a human being

00:39:06.160 is i think that jesus came and covered that and there's a lot of contention here the world is

00:39:11.600 moving in that direction and we need to be really careful that we don't continue full force in that

00:39:16.840 direction because i think that's a mistake um do you do you have any idea about this

00:39:22.120 yeah i disagree with it wholeheartedly

00:39:25.600 my concept of that source of information if you're taking it back to genesis 6 4

00:39:36.000 in the line of my research i think genesis 6 4 has nothing to do with what we're seeing right now

00:39:45.000 at all my interpretation of what's happened in genesis 6 4 i do not believe that we saw an offspring

00:39:55.040 from an angelic being combined with a human being there's a number of reasons for that

00:40:02.680 there's a number of scriptures you'd have to eliminate to make that actually happen

00:40:09.820 one god says he's the creator right and there's no other but if you have this union of a spiritual

00:40:21.560 being and a human being they've now created another form and that so that throws out that god's the only

00:40:29.380 creator there's a lot of things we're dealing with here that you brought up the one about can they be

00:40:35.240 redeemed well we know that these spirits cannot be redeemed scripture tells us that so that throws out

00:40:42.800 the scripture that jesus came so that all might be saved because you can't have both okay what i believe

00:40:50.880 is actually happened that makes the best sense in genesis 6 4 is that what we dealt with

00:40:58.300 was we know that these we know the ability of these beings we know that they don't have sex 0.99

00:41:09.760 they don't marry but these demonic being the demonic side is enticed by sexual activity with humans 0.72

00:41:22.000 we see incubus stories of incubus and succubus the abduction experience itself is very sexual in nature

00:41:29.320 okay so they're trying to experience this they want to experience this because they can't

00:41:36.400 how can they experience this in a spiritual form the only way that that's possible is through possession

00:41:44.100 and we know possession exists we know that that's a possibility that

00:41:49.640 people can be possessed by these entities these entities we never see any record of these entities being

00:41:58.800 here for a permanent time or in a permanent form they're a they're a remember they're a skin

00:42:06.240 with consciousness on the inside okay they can appear and perform like us but they're not us

00:42:15.780 so that mix they have no genetic they're a spiritual being so this whole thing about creating a bloodline i

00:42:23.440 think is false i think that's a a misunderstanding a misinterpretation for years and years it was

00:42:30.820 labeled that the uh what was it called the it was labeled as a heresy this this idea of a demonic

00:42:41.360 bloodline and i still think it should be i think it's a misunderstanding to think that the whole

00:42:47.600 as in the days of noah was about this experience it wasn't why was why wouldn't it be in the scripture

00:42:55.220 saying that it is when matthew 24 he tells you what the days of noah was happening and these are what the

00:43:02.180 things that look for that's not labeled as anything it's not in there it's not in there at all

00:43:07.100 so i think it's something that was grasped by a certain few uh theologians they sell the similarity

00:43:16.140 the first i heard it come out was 97 with uh what was his name he wrote his book alien encounters

00:43:25.440 uh christian theologian lost the name right now but when that book came out he included this

00:43:34.760 that's where this all started in the ufo realm and in the christian realm at this is where it started

00:43:40.520 to connect because he's he tried to tie that in and the thing is it's not the same it's not what we're

00:43:47.540 doing it's not a physical experience that's happening to people in the in the in the abduction

00:43:53.340 experience i'm not finding that at all there is no evidence that people are being physically taken

00:43:59.200 anywhere so for this to be continuing i'm not seeing it if they're thinking it's a continuation

00:44:05.060 of something that physically happened in genesis this is not physically happening now there are

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00:44:37.560 to the encounter they can make physical marks they can leave impressions they can do things they can move

00:44:50.280 things but the experience itself is a spiritual visionary experience my research took it down

00:44:58.100 that line we had to look at that when i was working with gary bates from alien intrusion book

00:45:03.660 he started to see that he says you know when i talked to these experiences because we worked together for

00:45:09.360 years he says i get this feeling that i know this this this you know experience that they're having

00:45:16.800 i've seen this before and he finally put it together and he said you know the way they react

00:45:24.500 from this experience is almost identical to the reaction of somebody who's been through stage

00:45:32.260 hypnosis you know what i mean by stage hypnosis where you've got these hypnotists that put people

00:45:38.500 through and convince them that they're they're a chicken and they cluck around on stage and things

00:45:42.540 like that when they come out and they actually see what's happened what they actually did

00:45:47.820 the confusion in the mind is is incredible because the mind can't handle that something happened like

00:45:54.620 that that they've been duped to that point and we started seeing the same effect in the abduction

00:45:59.900 people so that's where we had to start looking a little deeper so i talked with gary and i went back

00:46:05.520 and i started reinvestigating a lot of the cases that i work with because in the research even the

00:46:12.560 secular realm will tell you this they're using hypnotic regression i've never used hypnotic regression

00:46:17.680 i'm a safety professional by trade okay i do incident investigations i know how to ask the

00:46:24.560 right questions to get to the root cause of what was happening i use the same methodology when i do

00:46:30.640 when i talk to people i don't have to put them in a trance to get that i just have to guide the

00:46:35.920 questioning to get them to remember what actually happened to them okay because it's there let me give

00:46:42.780 you a quick scenario um you remember your last birthday

00:46:47.260 vaguely yeah vaguely but what you do remember what you do remember is the most prominent things that

00:47:00.060 you wanted to remember okay they're in your forefront of your mind but the whole day or evening whatever

00:47:07.620 you experienced for that birthday is still in the consciousness of your mind okay all i have to do

00:47:16.580 is help guide you to bring the focus on to those things that you don't remember right now and you will

00:47:23.700 remember why will you will remember because they're recorded they actually happened so on that thinking i went

00:47:33.140 back to re interview these people and guess what i'm finding the same blanks in there that the secular

00:47:39.780 researchers are finding when they put them another hypnotic regression the reason for the blanks which

00:47:46.100 their secular realm says are these are blocks that the aliens put on them so they don't remember

00:47:52.340 everything i call that bunk that's not what this is what they're seeing with these missing information

00:48:00.020 it never happened it was not recorded what they're experiencing is a impacting powerful um horrific

00:48:11.620 experience in a visionary sense okay only enough information to convince them it actually happened to them

00:48:21.060 for instance you ever been to a play yes any type of play you're sitting in the audience you're watching

00:48:28.740 something happened on the scene and then they got to do a scene change right well let's say you're

00:48:33.860 watching this play and the scene the next scene they come out and they bring two walls out and they

00:48:39.460 bring them at 90 degrees one's got a fireplace on it and one's got a window and a door on it next thing

00:48:46.100 they bring out a couch and then an end table with a lamp and then a coffee table have you figured out what

00:48:51.940 the scene is what the scene is what is it well in the sense of sitting in in a living room with a fireplace lit

00:48:59.140 thank you you but is that all the information that you see in your living room no it doesn't need to be

00:49:08.580 it's only enough for you to get it okay but they bring in horror they bring in fear they bring in pain

00:49:17.540 all of that to emphasize this whole short little scenario best example thrown in our face by hollywood

00:49:26.740 and everybody goes that's just hollywood that's not real hollywood does that a lot to us they bring

00:49:32.340 in truth stick it in our face and we don't believe it because it's hollywood okay the best example of an

00:49:39.140 abduction experience to tell you what i'm talking about is the matrix the first matrix you seen it

00:49:46.180 yes yep all right neo is taken to neo goes to the submarine the first time they put him on that

00:49:53.940 bed and they plug him into the back of his head this is his first time going to the matrix soon as

00:50:00.660 they plug him in he goes to an all-white space and morpheus is there waiting for him then what starts

00:50:08.500 showing up furniture a tv you know just so happens it's the same scenario but the question is for you

00:50:17.860 guys where's neo hmm well i guess he would be in some aspect of his own mind or i guess what the

00:50:27.780 matrix would say is like the almost like a the back room to reality but where's neo actually on the bed oh

00:50:35.700 right physically on the bed correct on the bed this is your abduction experience now you got to say

00:50:43.460 why is that all there is to this abduction experience can i rock your guys boat a little

00:50:48.100 bit sure please say your can say your comparison conspiracy guys so let's throw a little conspiracy in

00:50:53.940 here so if that's what's happening if that's all that's happening and the physical aspects that

00:51:01.460 people record with it is just enough to reinforce the visionary experience the whole thing is to

00:51:09.780 change a person's mindset right every single person in the 30 years i've come across that have

00:51:16.740 delved into the ufo phenomenon or the abduction phenomenon has the same effect that effect of the

00:51:25.620 the entire phenomenon is to take somebody's eyes off of the one true god

00:51:35.220 have you ever heard of anything in scripture that alludes to that

00:51:42.580 i mean it seems second thessalonians chapter 2

00:51:47.220 it says that at the end times god himself will send a strong delusion that those that choose not to

00:52:01.220 follow him will believe a lie a lie that is so powerful that if it were possible even the very elect

00:52:11.220 which means the very elect of the church the true believers could be deceived i believe what we're

00:52:19.700 seeing here is that strong delusion because this is exactly what happens to people what's happening is

00:52:29.220 he is allowed the enemy to perpetrate this delusion for his purpose why do i believe that because of

00:52:38.340 looking at what these abilities are of these beings what their message is it's always anti-christ anti-god

00:52:47.460 anti-bible anti-creation there are creators okay everything is slamming a christian belief system

00:52:57.540 they're coming here with all their super abilities but yet they're not killing us why is that because

00:53:04.820 they're not allowed to you remember when he allowed satan to mess with job he could not take his life

00:53:12.740 this is exactly what we're seeing the other option for out for getting out of this for sake for salvation

00:53:21.620 is the same as what we saw in moses in the desert okay there was a story in the desert when they were

00:53:29.620 uh you know wandering through the desert they started doubting god and doubting you know they said you're

00:53:36.500 not you know where is our food where is our water yet they were being taken care of but they just

00:53:42.340 you know they weren't happy they were weren't satisfied so god told moses 0.93

00:53:48.260 he says i'm going to bring you a fiery snake and you erect it on a pole

00:53:52.740 and then i'm going to bring these fiery snakes to the ground and they're going to bite your people 0.83

00:53:59.700 and they will die the only salvation for them to not die once they're bitten is to look at that fiery 0.92

00:54:09.540 snake that you put on that pole only then will they leave this was a test of those people to show god

00:54:17.700 was still in control that was a forerunner of what we were to expect from christ on the cross

00:54:26.340 christ was put on a pole too and the only salvation for first to live would be through looking at him

00:54:34.340 on that cross we're seeing the same thing right now in this strong delusion that i believe we're seeing

00:54:41.780 the only salvation you have if you're affected by this phenomenon is again look to that cross

00:54:50.660 because these testimonies show that these testimonies are the only thing the evidence that shows

00:54:57.860 what this is and what the salvation is from it because if you fall for this strong delusion in the

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00:55:28.900 this is not just you're being duped this is you're being eternally damned from making the choice to

00:55:41.540 fall for this strong delusion what do you it's it's really interesting because in conjunction with that

00:55:49.860 it seems like the entire purpose is to make you or not the entire purpose but a big part of it is to make

00:55:55.300 you feel like this is a physical phenomenon despite the fact that it's inherently spiritual and if you

00:56:02.500 can keep your eyes on the physical aspect of it uh then you'll be missing the idea that this is

00:56:09.300 spiritual warfare thank you thank you and that's the push for the whole nephilim idea where that's coming

00:56:17.300 from i don't believe that's from god i believe that is part of this strong delusion to get you to focus

00:56:23.460 on the physical instead of the spiritual i think that's that came in at a time when this phenomenon

00:56:30.740 took off i believe it is part of that same strong delusion to get christians to look at the real

00:56:36.740 truth of what's happening here it's very dangerous i believe to go down that avenue because people that

00:56:44.100 i've encountered that focus on that aspect this nephilim aspect it becomes their gospel it becomes their

00:56:51.220 focus and that alone tells me it's taken them away from everything else that god's talking about

00:56:57.140 you understand it's i i think it's the infiltration part of the delusion into the church itself because

00:57:04.740 we know there's a lot of not real believers in the church the church has gotten itself the american

00:57:10.900 church especially has gotten itself to where it's like okay if i show up on sundays and i do the

00:57:16.820 works that i got to do i'll be okay but that's not the case that's not the real church you know we

00:57:21.860 didn't have that organized church with jesus was here and when the apostles were doing that you know

00:57:27.940 it was it was totally different um and and this brings me to a point too is about

00:57:34.900 have you ever looked at the phenomenon as a whole researchers will tell you this is a worldwide

00:57:40.900 phenomenon do they not okay let me ask you something if i told you i was college educated

00:57:48.100 what would you think i've got a degree i got a four-year degree right but i only use the wording

00:57:57.140 to make you think that i only have a two-year degree okay rest of my stuff comes from independent

00:58:02.340 trainings but it's the way they say it when you say this is a worldwide event just because you have a

00:58:09.540 case here and a case there and a case way over there they call that a worldwide event but you

00:58:15.940 have to understand look at the numbers you know that the move there's other organizations besides move

00:58:23.940 on that are taking citing reports but as a move on member for 30 years i get a monthly thing telling

00:58:30.900 me the report numbers in this country alone we lead all of it this country this country alone we're

00:58:38.020 getting five to seven hundred citing reports just to move on a month you look at the rest of the

00:58:44.580 world it drops dramatically your major countries that are involved in this phenomenon okay the major

00:58:51.780 countries they're westernized they're modernized they're christianized and it's primarily white people

00:58:59.460 why do you think that is ah because the attack this delusion is attack against our belief system

00:59:13.620 that's this delusion fits this is the other countries are already being affected by the demonic realm

00:59:23.060 because they're already believing in something else other than god the enemy doesn't need to mess with

00:59:29.060 them they're already deceived the enemy's coming after the christians okay i i i agree i mean and

00:59:40.260 honestly looking at america right now it looks like he's he's winning but uh it seems like the tide is

00:59:45.780 changing as uh people are waking up what they wake up to is uh is a whole nother thing like like

00:59:51.380 kind of like your path you went from humanist to this uh new age stuff and it seems like

00:59:57.060 people will wake up to this new age stuff but i think if given enough time or actually steered

01:00:02.900 correctly they might be able to skip past that nonsense and go right to the truth but yeah that

01:00:07.860 seems like a logical progression but we need the evidence for it okay can we show that this is

01:00:12.900 spiritual they're already getting that part okay they're already calling it interdimensional

01:00:17.860 extra-dimensional crypto-dimensional whatever because they don't use the word spiritual but

01:00:24.500 it's the same thing they just have to get the terminology now when you bring in the testimonies

01:00:30.820 of the cases that i've brought over 30 years now this is the evidence to show that not only is it

01:00:38.020 spiritual but this thing is biblical okay everything fits to show that this is biblical there's so many

01:00:45.940 stories in there people want to be part of the supernatural so bad to have an experience what

01:00:52.260 they're missing completely is that the the most supernatural thing in the universe is god's word

01:01:00.420 it's funny because i'll be on social media and you know there's one facebook page i like to mess with

01:01:06.660 that's uh they call themselves demonologists right they're into the demonology and i it's funny because

01:01:13.540 they'll ask you know what's the best book i can get on demonology i'm just starting out and i'll type

01:01:18.420 in uh how about the bible you know of course they don't want to go there you know they want something

01:01:24.100 else but you want to know about demonology go to the bible it's all about it you know it tells us we're

01:01:30.900 at a cosmic war and we have been since the beginning of time well where do you i want to ask you a question

01:01:36.580 where do you put the scripture uh genesis 3 15 where he says that uh your seed will be at enmity

01:01:43.380 with the seed of man and he's talking directly to satan or lucifer the snake in the garden at the time

01:01:49.140 yeah it's a spiritual seed it's a spiritual seed and there's also testimony from people like uh

01:01:55.220 karen wilkinson who says that she's been abducted actually gotten pregnant has sonograms and then the

01:02:02.500 baby is then missing from her womb has sonograms for that it's unexplained it's this is a more

01:02:08.740 physical thing of what's happening yeah but it's not a way to put that it's only unexplained because

01:02:14.500 they haven't given her all the information for these i've been dealing with this for 30 years

01:02:19.940 believe me i have many cases talking about having babies and they're missing and everything else

01:02:25.220 the my belief my understanding of that is there's a natural there's a natural thing that happens to where

01:02:31.380 the babies can be the body eats it up okay i worked with a lady that dealt with missing twin phenomena 1.00

01:02:41.220 you ever heard of that one missing twin phenomena this was when i was in the new age and i was just

01:02:47.140 blown away the other yes or the body absorbs one of the twins only one is born what was fascinating is

01:02:56.180 when she went and started interviewing these people that knew they were they were uh single twins that

01:03:02.660 were born come to find out they got memories they got memories of seeing their other twin on crafts

01:03:18.020 how do you figure that out but it's all the same member i told you their memories it's not real it's part

01:03:24.900 of the deception okay there are medical things that can happen to people that will answer these

01:03:32.900 questions obviously she hasn't accepted that answer or she has not been told those that information or the

01:03:39.860 doctors haven't verified it to give that to her remember remember this is not a real physical thing but

01:03:50.340 they can leave physical attributes to have you believe it to be true i believe that the idea of the of the

01:03:59.300 hybridization is just a more powerful level of the onion of this delusion this delusion remember would be so

01:04:08.900 powerful that if it were possible the elect would be deceived this is going to be so powerful so

01:04:15.540 convoluted so incredibly powerful and deep that we will never find an answer to it because we're

01:04:23.940 not supposed to except through god's word okay so anybody else looking at it is not going to get the deep

01:04:30.500 answer to it unless they turn to god himself to be free what's happening here i believe is the enemy is using

01:04:38.500 this idea that they're giving these people of this experience this visionary experience that they're

01:04:45.380 having this baby they're having it taken from them they later can be taken and shown the baby and

01:04:51.940 everything else the purpose of that remember most experiencers are women most of them are it's a 1.00

01:05:01.540 a controlled factor the most powerful thing in a woman is her maternal instinct if you affect her maternal 0.92

01:05:12.180 instinct you own her and i believe that's what the enemy is tapped into here do you have do you have like

01:05:22.100 numbers on the percentages of women that are having this experience versus men i'd be interested to

01:05:28.260 know that that breakdown i don't know what everybody's come up with for a total but it's a

01:05:34.900 major difference okay a major difference but the mix is going to be there because the purpose is to take

01:05:42.580 your eyes off the one true god so if more men are getting into it keep in mind i told you this was a

01:05:49.860 white people's phenomenon we don't have people of color that are being taken in big numbers you might

01:05:55.860 have one or two here or there everybody wants to go back to betty and barney hill excuse me that's a

01:06:01.220 one okay that's all you got amongst the millions that have been through this in the heat of battle your

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01:06:36.900 this is primarily white people's phenomenon so that tells you right there we got a problem 0.92

01:06:43.060 well some would some would argue that the chirp disturbs black people sleep but

01:06:47.380 that's a whole nother thing david go ahead you're going to ask a question um when i was younger

01:06:52.580 i uh my my grandmother that i talked about she read a book that she found incredibly disturbing and

01:06:59.460 uh she told my mother her daughter not to read the book and uh one day it came up and uh i i asked what

01:07:10.980 the name of the book was and my mother told me it was uh i i'm sure you're familiar with this one joseph uh

01:07:18.340 uh communion by oh yeah striber and it's a fascinating book in hindsight now because i read

01:07:26.740 it in its entirety but i would have only been 16 when i read it so it's been a while and looking back

01:07:37.460 now i remember so for those listening communion was a compilation of testimony that uh whitley

01:07:48.420 claimed to and correct me if i'm wrong it's been a while claimed to have uh uh you know amalgamated

01:07:54.500 and turn into a book and at the end of it he said something very interesting he said that there was a

01:08:02.980 symbol that he believed held the key to understanding the phenomenon and if i'm not mistaken it was the

01:08:13.860 trinity which in hindsight you know calling the book communion um and i don't know where whitley

01:08:22.580 stands on it now we've tried to get him uh on the show i've not absorbed any of his content in well over

01:08:29.940 15 years um but it's just interesting that the book should have been called communion you know which

01:08:37.220 has this heavy uh religious connotation at the end of it he sums it up with the this sort of

01:08:44.500 mysterious cliffhanger of the trinity being the key to understanding this phenomenon i'd like very

01:08:50.260 much to get your thoughts on uh on you know whitley and and that book and and what do you think um

01:08:58.500 because it left an impression on the community right this is a significant piece of literature

01:09:04.260 when it comes to this phenomenon uh and i'd like to get your ideas on it well by far was an is by far

01:09:11.780 was his experiences communion as we know communion being a biblical term you know from scripture it's

01:09:19.540 everything but i have done many many talks and presentations where i actually titled my talk

01:09:26.900 unholy communion i just spoke at the move on conference in pittsburgh a couple months ago and

01:09:32.580 that was the title of my talk unholy communion because i i try to get people to understand that

01:09:38.900 what he's promoting here is communing with these beings which is where he ended up taking it level two

01:09:44.420 uh when you read his his early quotes out of that book he talks about you know if there were demons

01:09:51.540 these are them you know he even made those comments in that book but he went on to actually move on to

01:09:59.060 promote contact okay this is that stockholm syndrome we see with a lot of the experiencers

01:10:06.020 where they go through the horrific experiences but the next thing we you know

01:10:09.380 they're the prophets for these beings here on earth you know they're the ones that have been

01:10:15.300 chosen and they you know these beings in their communications they tell them that oh yeah you

01:10:19.700 were chosen to go through this you know to be able to be a messenger for us blah blah blah you know

01:10:25.300 so they're proselyte these entities are proselytizing a cosmic gospel that goes against our scriptures

01:10:33.060 and he's played on that if you read you look at some of the late literature that he's done

01:10:37.300 yeah he goes against he's writing about a whole new gospel you know under to give people an

01:10:44.260 understanding of who jesus really was this is all new age gobbledygook he's toeing the line for their

01:10:50.180 for their alien gospel that they're trying to promote did he open doors heck yeah he opened doors

01:10:56.740 you know i can i can look at that and see that all over look at what he was writing before he got into

01:11:02.340 uh writing communion before he had experiences go back and look at his book walking okay where he

01:11:09.940 he was writing some pretty pretty pretty dark stuff so i have no doubt that he had opened himself up to this stuff

01:11:19.380 that's fascinating what was the nature of of when you say dark stuff it's funny he called it walking right

01:11:24.340 isn't that his horse it was horror stuff really yeah interesting interesting but it and then he had

01:11:32.340 these experiences and it converted him it converted him exactly like i'm talking about it took him away

01:11:38.580 from the one true god and they convinced him that he was chosen for this he was chosen to spread this

01:11:44.580 alien gospel sounds a lot like that raylian religion i'm sure you've heard yeah oh yeah

01:11:54.660 and most of these most of the people that are promoting this stuff

01:11:59.540 are that's what's happened to them look at stephen greer stephen greer is pushing ce5

01:12:04.900 you know a meditative contact with these beings stephen's an experiencer you know and they they changed him

01:12:12.260 they took him away from that truth they changed his reality and now he's a mess he's a he's spreading

01:12:18.180 their alien gospel too this this idea of you are chosen is yeah this like really effective appeal

01:12:29.060 at the the the ego of man the whole attraction to the new age is because of ego it's because they're

01:12:37.700 offering you an opportunity to gain special knowledge right where have we heard that before

01:12:46.420 you know over and over again we one of our friends of the show actually texted me the other day

01:12:52.100 um someone who has uh said that he's been speaking to these entities colin um it's it's important that we

01:13:00.260 do use a scripture and says that says test the spirits like they'll come to you and they'll come 0.55

01:13:06.260 to you as an angel of light or they'll come to you as whatever whatever they think you'll you'll want

01:13:11.620 to accept them as and i i think thank you i know he's he's deceived it's just a like ask for complete

01:13:19.460 clarification i had said this to you at one point david off air where when we first started the show

01:13:24.660 you would say uh you know let's pray to christ and i was like be a little bit more specific because

01:13:32.020 like who who are we talking about here yeah christ or jesus christ i don't know who you know some that's

01:13:40.100 just the word and i feel like we have to be really specific with our spoken words at what we're what

01:13:45.460 we're communing with what we're open to who we're speaking to who's speaking to us that's a great point

01:13:52.260 because you look at the new age community they've taken christ and and reduced it to this christ

01:13:59.060 consciousness right yeah and i've heard people even describe well uh christ consciousness is

01:14:05.380 actually a sort of oil that's secreted within your your spine at the 33rd vertebrae all kinds of

01:14:13.780 crap they're jumping through groups and doing backflips and and you know trying to tell you that uh

01:14:18.980 christ consciousness is an organic material produced in your spine and and and causes 0.98

01:14:23.620 enlightenment and it's like yeah you got to be really specific because if if you give people

01:14:28.740 something that's too malleable well they'll mold it into whatever the hell they want it to be

01:14:33.780 and sure and and you know that it might it might be there might be a scientific explanation for it but

01:14:40.340 it doesn't replace what's the actual truth it's still just another misguiding delusion that it's it's that

01:14:46.900 99 truth and the one percent lie that kind of like leads you this way here and now you're off track

01:14:54.100 yeah yeah yep yep which just seems to be uh what the the new age movement does you know we were talking

01:15:01.540 yesterday about the concept of of numerology and how um i go back and forth because i see that there is

01:15:11.060 value in numbers we did a a book of revelation episode with ed mabry and obviously the number

01:15:17.380 seven appears over and over again uh god created the the world and and on the seventh day he rested and

01:15:24.260 the seven seals the seven trumpets the seven year tribulation all these different things seven just

01:15:29.300 repeats over and over again it's like there's a significance to the numbers but when it comes

01:15:33.700 to numerology i hit the brakes because there's this entire community that's built around

01:15:38.820 numerology but what i what i do think is happening here is that the the enemy cannot create it can only

01:15:46.260 corrupt and invert and so there is something at its core that is true but surrounding it is all of this

01:15:56.260 this this um it's like there's truth and surrounding it is weeds that have grown out of control and will

01:16:05.220 lead you down a bunch of different paths instead of straight to the truth and so uh i think it's it's

01:16:10.500 one of those things that the new age movement doesn't see but does so well is it grows a lot of weeds

01:16:17.140 to obfuscate um not that the the people that are part of the community are purposely obfuscating but uh

01:16:24.100 there is a spiritual we're engaged in spiritual warfare and the name of the game is to take

01:16:28.660 god's creation and to invert it or corrupt it however you can and lead people astray yep and it's

01:16:35.060 not just the new age the infiltrations into the church i think there's a lot of teachings that are

01:16:40.340 coming into the church that are given the same effect you know and that's what we got to be aware

01:16:47.380 of you know this whole concept of of this being a physical thing you know if the research that i've

01:16:53.780 done shows that this is not a physical thing then we don't have physical entities that we're dealing

01:17:00.020 with here you know on the earth there's no hybrids walking among us and the thing is the scripture tells 1.00

01:17:07.940 us because if there were hybrids walking among us then now we're dealing with a physical entity that 0.99

01:17:14.740 we war against where scripture tells us we wrestle not against flesh and blood that's another scripture

01:17:20.580 you're going to have to throw out if we got physical beings walking among us if the genetic

01:17:25.540 line is saying that we have people here because of their one drop of that genetics then that you've

01:17:33.300 got to throw that one out too because they can't be redeemed because scripture tells us that those those

01:17:38.340 that that realm is not going to be redeemed the danger of what i believe the biggest danger in this time

01:17:46.260 with this teaching that we're dealing with a demonic bloodline race that possibly walks among us is this

01:17:57.940 you may not have any you know an idea about how many people out there actually claim to be alien

01:18:04.660 hybrids it's insane they've taken them tattoo themselves and they they they get no not that not that these are 0.99

01:18:14.180 people that actually believe and claim that they were that they are hybrids walking among us um the thing

01:18:23.620 is i like to mess with them online because i ask them have you told your real dad your earthly dad that

01:18:28.500 you're you're not from him you know most of them have not you know uh they don't want to go that far but

01:18:34.260 yet they'll claim you know on their social media that they're actually hybrids um the scary thing about 0.98

01:18:40.740 that if with this many i'm talking there's probably hundreds and hundreds of thousands that are

01:18:47.060 claiming this and actually believe it uh to the core the danger with that is if we're teaching this

01:18:54.260 nephilim thing in the church this idea that they're a demonic bloodline eventually you're going to get some

01:19:02.900 wackadoodle that's going to start taking out these people that believe they're alien hybrids a

01:19:08.100 critic that's going to go offline you're talking about a point to where people are going to be

01:19:15.140 convinced to a point that we actually have a race of these people that cannot be saved and are out to 1.00

01:19:22.100 change our belief in god that is dangerous any time in history that a race of people have been demonized

01:19:31.540 what's happened there's been a there's been a holocaust and i believe we are prepping ourselves 0.96

01:19:40.020 without knowing it for a holocaust of these people in this community if we don't stop 1.00

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01:20:34.740 i i agree i agree i i still hold out reservations that these things are not physical i think that

01:20:41.060 there's biblical scripture to say that they did walk the earth there were giants there were well

01:20:46.340 there were giants i understand that i have no problem with that i think that a communion or a union

01:20:53.220 of of something demonic possessed person okay with a with a another human can cause a problem i have no

01:21:04.500 doubt that that possession can corrupt you know us physically and i i have no doubt that god has allowed

01:21:12.580 that part to happen the the the whole thing is is is it wasn't that wasn't the reason for the flood

01:21:20.260 the reason for the flood is this offspring was aiding in corrupting the whole belief system of those who

01:21:28.980 lived prior to the flood because if you look at what genesis or matthew 24 says it tells you everything

01:21:36.180 that they were doing it's identical to what we're seeing now that's falling away from god

01:21:41.220 that's what happened remember the the first generations many of the first generations in

01:21:47.220 genesis were following god they did believe in god is this is this it this in incursion of this

01:21:56.020 thought system from these angelic beings that changed the way they started to believe in the

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01:22:26.260 and man went corrupt because of that and that's what the flood was about remember he said that we

01:22:38.980 found none righteous in his eye in god's eyes but no you know no way in his family because the earth had

01:22:45.620 just gone berserk i mean just like we're seeing in this country it's gone berserk you know yeah i agree i

01:22:53.700 i wanted to i want to ask you uh another question we we've had on timothy albarino on this and we've

01:23:01.460 touched on this subject among a bunch of other things and he is a firm believer against what kind

01:23:07.540 of what we're saying even though we had like a little agreement to like all right let's maybe leave

01:23:11.620 it there but one of the things he mentioned when we asked him well why do the demon why do the aliens

01:23:17.140 the alien encounters stop when you invoke the name of jesus christ and he says that he has a proof of

01:23:24.740 a number of testimonies where that wasn't the case and that's easy to answer yeah what would be your

01:23:31.460 response to that because they haven't shut the doors yet they haven't gone through full completion of

01:23:37.700 of getting their life right back with god you can't leave these doors open okay it's a lot of work to

01:23:45.700 get these people to get these people to a point it's like when i work with these people that are

01:23:50.420 not christian that have opened themselves up to this first to have any help i got to convince them

01:23:56.820 that christianity and jesus is real i've got to be able to bring them to jesus okay and then you've got

01:24:04.180 to be able to go through the whole process to get them to understand how it how you have to maintain

01:24:09.940 your walk with him to be able to shut this completely that's a lot of work what he's coming

01:24:16.660 across is people who don't want to do the work that's the problem they're not see i have i published

01:24:23.540 in my book the eight r's to freedom okay let me grab one here i'll show you because people wanted a process

01:24:33.300 that you know they wanted something in their hand that they could uh they could use

01:24:40.820 and and follow you know so i something i put together i kind of borrowed it from somebody else's

01:24:48.580 writing but it's called the eight r's to freedom and this is a process that i i guide them to i was

01:24:55.220 already guiding them through this but i didn't have it in print uh my wife that passed away some years

01:25:01.940 ago she had picked up a book and found this information in there and she showed it to me

01:25:07.220 she says i think this might be you know kind of valid information for what you're doing it should

01:25:12.660 fit you know no matter what you're dealing with so i did and i you know kind of took it and that's

01:25:17.940 what this guy had written and and lined it up with you know this abduction experience these eight r's

01:25:24.340 your first one is recognize uh you must recognize what it is okay first of all i take these people and

01:25:31.540 i use all the things that i can show them that don't make sense in this phenomenon and i build

01:25:38.100 that that i plant that seed of doubt because if you really look at this phenomenon there's a lot of

01:25:43.380 things that don't make sense and you can start breaking down that stronghold by interjecting that's

01:25:50.180 into that stronghold doubt once you can plant that seed of doubt now you have an opportunity to help

01:25:57.140 get them on to the truth okay once they understand what they're dealing with okay once they recognize

01:26:04.340 it then they got it the second r is responsibility they have to take the responsibility to do what it

01:26:12.420 needs to be done to stop this completely okay not just a one-time event but you need to be able to take

01:26:20.340 you know responsibility to do the work that's going to make it stop entirely number three is repent you've

01:26:28.820 got to honestly repent to god for being involved in this stuff because most of the time i mean absolutely

01:26:36.020 most of the time it was a choice you made okay so you got to repent for that are you seeing that this

01:26:42.820 probably works for anything any sin or any bondage we have in our life but i just tailored it to alien

01:26:49.460 abductions moving on you have to renounce it okay you have to make what you've been involved with and

01:26:57.540 you now recognize as being wrong your enemy okay you've got to go to war with this stuff number five this

01:27:06.180 is the one that people have problem with and this is where these people like alberino are saying this

01:27:12.260 doesn't work for people because he's only talking to the people like this that have had a problem in

01:27:18.660 getting through the whole thing is he trying to help them no he's not trying to help them he's

01:27:23.540 just using this information that he found to come against what i've been pushing for 30 years that

01:27:29.060 jesus works why would he as a christian want to go against the idea that jesus is still in power and

01:27:36.900 jesus can make this stop i don't understand his agenda there he was going against the idea that aliens

01:27:43.060 are demonic and this is what we were pushing and i was like no they're pretty demonic and he's like i

01:27:47.860 think that they might just be flying around like now and we kind of it was i don't care i don't care

01:27:53.220 what he thinks what does god say you know let's go back to what god says they are and he tells us what

01:27:59.780 they are so number five remove it this is where people fail you have to get every aspect out of your

01:28:07.860 life get off the freaking internet and quit looking at this stuff that's an open door okay if you've 0.71

01:28:15.220 been part of this you've got to slam that door shut and focus on jesus christ or you still got an open 0.89

01:28:22.180 door and there's still going to be access to your life okay this is important people you've got to close

01:28:29.140 the door to this stuff if you were an alcoholic or a drug user you can't do this occasionally you've got

01:28:36.180 to shut that door and then you move on to number six resist why would number six say resist if you're

01:28:46.020 stopping this why would it say resist because you're not doing number five okay they're going to come

01:28:52.100 back and you got to go through the process over and over until you get this thing completed until you get

01:28:57.940 through the eight r's number seven rejoice when you finally get there why rejoice because god is setting

01:29:07.060 you free then number eight the most important of all which brings me to my ministry number eight is

01:29:16.900 you help somebody else get free okay number eight that's the most important that that covers the enemy's

01:29:26.100 power it's restore not just if you come restored but you take what you've learned and you share it with

01:29:35.940 the next person that's the one thing the enemy doesn't want you to do is share your testimony why because

01:29:44.500 your testimony of a changed life through jesus christ is the most powerful evidence in the universe

01:29:52.420 that god is real that jesus saving grace is real that the bible is real they don't want the enemy does

01:30:00.900 not want that this is why this fight of 30 years i've been dealing with trying to get this information

01:30:06.900 out there has been like it is it's been the unwanted piece of the puzzle i'm not front line like alvarino or

01:30:13.780 marzulli because what i bring to the table is not a game changer it's a game stopper and they don't want

01:30:22.260 the game to stop people are making a living off this game i don't make a living off this game i vowed

01:30:29.460 never to make a living off the game i work for a living i always have and i will continue to work for a

01:30:35.940 living i was given a mission to take this information back to where i came from that's what i've been doing

01:30:42.660 for 30 years i listened to the scripture that jesus made a promise he says for those who do my work i

01:30:49.940 will meet your needs i do his work he has met my needs i've never been in need of employment i've

01:30:57.860 never been in need of a place to live will i ever get rich and wealthy i doubt it because that's not the

01:31:04.180 intent the intent is my needs have been met and i put my faith in that promise that he made to us

01:31:12.020 that my needs will be met i do not and never will make this a ministry that is totally supportive of

01:31:19.780 me trying to get this message out this message was given to me at a time in my life that was given to

01:31:26.980 me freely okay and i was told take this message back to where i came from why would i charge for this

01:31:34.420 message i have a book that people have to pay for on amazon but i'll tell you i've given more away than

01:31:43.300 i actually have sold the idea isn't to make money off the book the idea was to finally get something

01:31:51.460 out there that people wanted to put in their hands tangible to be able to look at and share and follow

01:31:58.500 and maybe help somebody else i give the books whenever i sell the books i take the money from

01:32:04.180 when i sell the books and i buy the books at my cost from amazon because there's an author's cost

01:32:09.380 which is really cheap it's like five dollars and 65 cents a book i buy them at cost in bulk so i can

01:32:16.420 give away okay because this is a witnessing tool the book is a witnessing tool it's evidence it's

01:32:24.180 testimony of jesus christ being who he says he is and what he will do for you i got over 60 testimonies

01:32:31.380 in the book okay that people how many do you need to be convinced that what i'm telling you is real

01:32:36.580 because there's unending testimonies to be able to give you there's 60 in the book okay i can take you

01:32:43.220 and lead you to the truth for that five dollars and 65 cents by giving you that book i could do the

01:32:49.940 same thing if i just took you for a cup of coffee at starbucks it costs the same amount okay so that's

01:32:55.380 really why to put the book out there as a witnessing tool people want to pay for what it is on amazon

01:33:00.900 so be it it gives me the ability to reach those that i can't afford it you know that's the type of

01:33:06.420 ministry that i've been doing i've been i've been blessed to live my dream in my life two times and

01:33:13.140 i have no doubt that the lord's allowed that to happen okay my dream was to be part of the space

01:33:18.980 program america's space program i had the opportunity working during the shuttle program

01:33:23.940 that was a blessing that i never thought would ever happen but the lord blessed me with that

01:33:28.900 opportunity when the shuttle program ended i had to go do something else i thought okay that part of the

01:33:34.580 dream is over now go back to work someplace else i ended up going to korea for 11 years living as uh

01:33:41.300 and working as a contractor supporting the military american military over there

01:33:45.700 but waiting all along hoping the space program will take off again the private industry and it did

01:33:52.500 and i've been blessed to work again here at the space center for a private industry rocket launcher and

01:34:00.260 again able to live my dream you know that can only be a godsend okay the opportunity to do that again so

01:34:08.660 my needs are getting met my dreams are getting met because i do the lord's work and i do it honestly

01:34:14.660 and i think that's with everybody i think if we take what the lord tells us and you take your testimony

01:34:20.340 and you use it you become a missionary for god's word that's the great commission but take out the 0.82

01:34:26.580 take the word of god out there and share it with them and share your testimony because what is the testimony

01:34:33.140 the testimony is the evidence that the word of god is real because if you share the bible with somebody

01:34:40.500 and they go oh that's fantastic story what has it done for you if you don't have an answer for that 0.97

01:34:48.020 you may as well have shared moby dick with them because that's a great book too because you got no 0.89

01:34:54.260 evidence that it's it is what it is unless you have a testimony well i got hundreds of testimonies okay 0.91

01:35:02.100 that was the mission i was given is overwhelm the people with testimonies to show them what this is

01:35:09.860 and how they can be stopped and how jesus is in control joseph what's the name of the book

01:35:17.460 it's piercing the cosmic veil you shall not be afraid of the dark by night

01:35:24.980 and do you have a website for it um actually you'd go you go on amazon and you put it in there you'll find

01:35:31.540 it um i've got a i've got it available in paperback and kindle and amazon just did a favor for me and

01:35:39.300 converted it over with ai to uh full audio so you can buy the 14 and a half hours version of audio for

01:35:46.100 the whole book okay perfect my my co-host can't read we're gonna put that in the bio because listen

01:35:54.260 even though i know your your ministry isn't to make money i think people should still support you because

01:35:59.220 with that money you can do even more things i wish i could do a lot more you know i'm i've limited on

01:36:04.980 how i work i i have to use my own and trust the lord like it's like tithing you know i trust the

01:36:10.500 lord's going to help me out if i have to use my own money and he does every time you know um i just

01:36:16.180 have to trust if i'm going to spend a couple grand to get to a conference to try to set up to help

01:36:20.900 people that he's going to help me get it back and he usually does it may take some time that's part of

01:36:26.420 trusting you know it's just like tithing you got to trust so it's a supernatural experience people that

01:36:32.260 you listen to testimonies that people tithe regularly they say you know i never had the

01:36:36.900 money i i i just felt i never had the money to tithe but i did anyway and then come to find out

01:36:43.380 it's like i was never missing it you know after i did it because it's it's one of those things where

01:36:48.420 god says test me okay it's like the same thing that that scripture i told you he says trust me

01:36:56.100 you do my work and i will meet your needs i had to put trust into that and he has done that he has

01:37:02.980 met that promise wow this is a i i wanted to ask one more question i'm sorry i feel like that was a

01:37:10.180 mic drop but i just have to ask a question so with you still you're still like uh looking into the ufo

01:37:18.180 thing you said the more you look into this um like be careful looking into this because you're leaving

01:37:23.380 that door open as people who are still looking into a array of things but obviously we're focused on

01:37:29.540 christ how do you deal with that part of your life and and that part of your career as your ministry

01:37:36.100 going forward because it's still your business to kind of look at this thing at this alien phenomenon

01:37:41.780 sure and then bring it over to other people so what would be your advice it's it's the perspective

01:37:47.700 that you're looking at it from and if if you are grounded in jesus and you know you're you're doing

01:37:55.700 what you know he's asked us to do you're following him and you're trusting in him and you're guided by

01:38:01.460 him and the holy spirit then you're looking at it through biblical lens okay and that's a different

01:38:07.940 thing than looking at it through like when i started through an agnostic lens and then again

01:38:13.380 by the new age metaphysical lens because those are not of god and they're going to feed you information

01:38:21.220 that is not going to be right but if you're grounded in the lord and you've been called to work because

01:38:27.780 this is a battle this is a cosmic war that we're dealing with and that that while i said that i'll

01:38:34.740 let you know that i'm working on book number two and the title of that one actually is unholy communion

01:38:41.780 casualties of a cosmic war and there's going to be some powerful testimonies in there i step out a

01:38:48.340 little bit from the ufo abduction experience uh solely because i bring in testimonies of people that have

01:38:56.980 been involved in spiritism ghost hunting um people that have had near death and things like that and

01:39:04.100 and overdoses or whatever from drugs and i bring it all together to show that this delusion is not this

01:39:11.540 cosmic war this delusion that's against us as believers us as humans to not follow god is far

01:39:19.060 reaching into other areas than just the abduction alien ufo phenomenon all of these areas are being hit by the

01:39:26.420 enemy it's like the enemy says here's a here's a million doors pick one which one you like you

01:39:33.060 know and because he knows he knows what we're we're open to he knows what we what would seduce us and

01:39:38.900 that's it's all a seduction but what does jesus say he says i stand at the door and not there's only one

01:39:46.820 okay there's only one that can that can come in and you can pass through uh so that this is where

01:39:52.740 the counterfeit comes in and i'm going to show that in the second book you know uh i think i speak for

01:39:59.220 david when i say that we'd love to have you on again especially when that second book comes out

01:40:04.020 i'd love to hear testimonies from that and i like for people to buy it or get it somehow so that way

01:40:10.420 this thing is out there and not just a piece of gold that's written and sitting there you know people

01:40:16.260 should be actively seeking this out and knowing where to get it so i hope to speak to you again in the

01:40:21.540 future and thank you for coming on this has been a great episode thank you absolutely um anything

01:40:29.540 else david uh guys if you want to support the show and the work that we do uh you can go to

01:40:36.820 toplobster.com pick up some merch uh you can also go to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad

01:40:44.740 um if you don't have the money i greatly sympathize with that if you want to help and spread the message

01:40:51.380 you can go to uh youtube rumble wherever you guys are listening like share and subscribe and one of

01:40:58.660 the things that helps boost us in the algorithm is leave a rating and review on your audio platforms

01:41:04.420 that's about it for me absolutely we'll see one more one more thing if you don't mind i'll give the

01:41:09.540 locations where people can find the information that i have my website is www.ce the number four

01:41:17.380 research.com i have a youtube channel all my talks that i've ever done that i can get up on my youtube

01:41:25.060 channel are there my conference talks that i've had video and my podcasts i try to get them all up

01:41:31.060 there that i've done and uh there's there's a lot of them up there for many years and they're all free

01:41:37.620 you know i don't sell dvds i don't sell any of that stuff i give them away remember this is the message that

01:41:43.380 i was freely given so i tried to freely give so there's there's plenty of information that you can

01:41:49.460 go to and follow along um also you got the amazon book and if people are listening to this or and are

01:41:57.620 watching this and you are an experiencer or if you are a former experiencer and you have a testimony

01:42:05.620 like what we're talking about you know being saved from the saving grace of jesus christ please reach

01:42:11.380 out to me because it's these testimonies that are going to overwhelm the secular world and more is

01:42:17.460 always better this is what my mission was to do gather these testimonies and show them you can reach

01:42:23.460 me at my email at ce4 ce the number four president at yahoo.com i'll respond to you i do if you're

01:42:32.420 needing help i'll work with you that's what i do okay okay i am going to make sure i get all of your

01:42:39.620 links they'll be in the bio of this episode so people it's a no-brainer if you like what was said

01:42:46.500 here you just click that and there'll be a bunch of clickable links and you can contact joseph if

01:42:51.140 you feel it you can buy his books you can check out his stuff but until then we'll see you next week

01:42:57.140 probably will be back god willing see you later guys the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a

01:43:02.820 oblong box in the corner of the room it is constantly telling us what to believe is real

01:43:09.700 you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see

01:43:15.940 because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening

01:43:22.660 what they have

Nephilim Death Squad - July 08, 2024

044： Aliens VS Jesus w⧸ Joseph G. Jordan

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