Nephilim Death Squad - 109： The King and The Court Jester w⧸ Owen Benjamin

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00:01:11.320 We are being hypnotized by people like this.

00:01:17.120 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

00:01:21.520 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

00:01:30.480 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely

00:01:35.560 deep.

00:01:36.340 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:01:37.580 There's some Nephilim shit.

00:01:38.740 It's like we all know what's going down.

00:01:41.400 We know I'm saying shit.

00:01:42.380 What happened to the home of the brave?

00:01:44.920 Motherf*****s, they controlling this now.

00:01:46.600 We know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves.

00:01:49.720 And everybody's just walking around.

00:01:51.820 Head in the crowd.

00:01:52.480 We want to wake up to a jet in the green.

00:01:54.920 By hand it's too late.

00:01:55.920 We need to be ready to raise up.

00:01:57.740 Welcome to the end of day.

00:01:59.400 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.

00:02:09.080 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a.

00:02:11.420 The Raven.

00:02:12.100 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

00:02:15.080 And today we are joined once again, graced by the presence of Owen Benjamin.

00:02:21.580 Owen, if you will, for the audience who might not be familiar with you, where can they find you?

00:02:25.980 Well, if they're not familiar with me, they're gay.

00:02:29.420 So I'd appreciate it if they did not find me.

00:02:31.380 Thank you very much.

00:02:32.960 No, but Owen Benjamin.com.

00:02:34.980 Yeah.

00:02:36.740 There he is.

00:02:37.540 There he is.

00:02:37.940 Right on Twitter.

00:02:38.740 The Twitter, the same Twitter account that helped me go viral on a really disastrous post, it turns out.

00:02:44.520 Oh, there we go.

00:02:45.420 There's his special.

00:02:46.460 Might be nice.

00:02:49.040 Killer special, by the way.

00:02:50.260 If you guys haven't caught it by now, go catch that in Noble Savage from before that.

00:02:54.640 But I guess we're just jumping right into whatever the fuck happened here.

00:02:57.780 So, David, I have to explain it.

00:02:59.700 Look, typically I would I would ask you to say a bunch of stuff so that I didn't have to, Owen.

00:03:04.400 But I just am coming off of the back of allowing Child Protective Services to leave my home.

00:03:11.360 So it turns out I had a pretty viral tweet the other day.

00:03:14.780 Owen, you saw that.

00:03:15.920 You commented on it telling me I should hide my bike.

00:03:18.060 I said that I learned from other people's mistakes and I keep the bike inside.

00:03:21.380 And it was on a tweet that really upset the black community.

00:03:25.040 Long story short, about 20 million impressions later, I get a call from the sheriff's department that I have to go to my child's school.

00:03:34.740 Somebody has doxed me, found all my information, including my my long, long, long time ago ex-girlfriend's phone number.

00:03:41.040 I'm sure she's pleased with the phone call she's getting.

00:03:44.320 And and they found my kid's school and they called up my kid's school and said that I was beating him relentlessly or something to that effect, which turned out to not be the case.

00:03:51.960 But still had to go through a whole rigmarole.

00:03:54.520 And I think it's probably about time to to take on the the the Owen way of life.

00:04:01.180 And to some degree, the top lobster way of life.

00:04:03.860 I need to get the hell away from concentrated areas where people are and start homeschooling my kid.

00:04:09.860 Yeah, man, it's a it's about scale.

00:04:12.300 We're just talking about that before we went live, where when you get a certain amount of people in an area, you start having to give up autonomy and individuality and all that.

00:04:22.180 And it makes sense.

00:04:23.100 It's it's like standardizing a part for a car that you can go into any auto zone and buy a new headlamp for for a Chevy, you know.

00:04:30.900 So that's how you get to these massive scales.

00:04:33.540 So if you want to get more custom, more individualistic, it has to be a smaller community.

00:04:39.060 Like, I know the sheriff.

00:04:40.600 I know people around here.

00:04:42.540 You know, I was explaining to my kids today about the fires in L.A. because we live on 10 acres.

00:04:47.160 And I was like this, the size of our land would have over a thousand people on it.

00:04:52.860 And they were just like, what?

00:04:54.380 I'm like, a thousand people would have to live together and work together.

00:04:58.980 And that's when humor can be really it really gets them.

00:05:03.360 It can put you in a really crazy place because I've had child protective services do that, too, from comedy.

00:05:09.940 It's cut.

00:05:11.040 Yeah.

00:05:11.300 Like, years ago, I had to do the whole thing.

00:05:13.080 It was nuts.

00:05:13.680 It was one of the scariest things.

00:05:15.300 That was but it actually got me more spiritual because I was like, I don't know.

00:05:20.700 It allowed me to see that that my kids aren't really mine.

00:05:24.340 They're gods.

00:05:25.000 And I'm like the shepherd.

00:05:26.100 It was like a whole thing.

00:05:27.020 But I was fucking scared.

00:05:27.980 But it ended up being fine.

00:05:30.300 It's totally fine.

00:05:31.800 It's like the machine.

00:05:32.900 The machine just does this when there's a complaint for liability and insurance.

00:05:37.440 You're all good.

00:05:38.520 But it's just for me, I'd never had an interaction with because I know you guys think you're white, but you're not white.

00:05:46.080 Like, I'm, you know, like I'm a white guy.

00:05:49.680 Like, I don't like white adjacent.

00:05:51.080 I've never talked to CPS.

00:05:52.640 Like, we don't, we send them to you guys' little trailers in the Indian reservations or whatever you guys are.

00:05:58.940 I'm just kidding.

00:06:00.180 No, but humor, it's because everyone's so afraid of, like, sparking a race war or some shit.

00:06:07.520 So you do a bike joke and people just go nuts.

00:06:10.840 And there's also a lot of narcissists in the world.

00:06:13.640 Like, I've been doing a lot of work on that.

00:06:15.200 Like, a lot of people don't understand how they think.

00:06:17.760 Like, and you trigger their shame or you trigger something in them and they go nuts.

00:06:23.500 And so that's why, yeah, if you want to be artistic, it's definitely good to live in a more rural environment.

00:06:29.480 Yeah.

00:06:29.920 It's funny, too, because it wasn't even explicitly racist.

00:06:33.420 I think that's, it was implied to be racist and they definitely read it as so.

00:06:37.920 But it was just a true story.

00:06:39.500 Like, they should be calling CPS on their dads, but they don't have dads to call CPS on.

00:06:43.220 I did an experiment where what I did was I took the format of the tweet and I said, well, what happens if I, if I change some things about the tweet to make it relevant to white people?

00:06:54.640 So I, the original names were like Jamal and Dayquil, two names that I made up because I'm not going to say children's actual names.

00:07:01.420 Right.

00:07:02.000 And so I decided to do the same thing for white people.

00:07:04.620 You're not going to dox children and their schools and their parents' address?

00:07:07.540 I'm not going to dox children.

00:07:08.120 Um, so instead what I did was I made, uh, the names Carter and, and Pubert, which is, um, a great name, a great white name.

00:07:16.740 And, and, uh, and I made this.

00:07:18.760 What's your kid's name, Owen?

00:07:20.860 Any of them named Pubert?

00:07:22.760 No, it's, uh, Walter, Charles, Jack, and Frederick.

00:07:26.620 Docs.

00:07:27.100 Very close.

00:07:27.960 Docs on Neville and Death Squad.

00:07:29.320 Uh, and what I noticed is I actually didn't receive any death threats, any pictures of, uh, dismembered children.

00:07:38.220 Um, I wasn't doxed by the white community.

00:07:40.880 In fact, uh, white people were almost, uh, playful in it.

00:07:46.740 You know, they, they wanted, they, they liked the tweet.

00:07:48.820 They engaged with it in a relatively positive way.

00:07:50.760 Uh, go figure.

00:07:52.000 But it was, it was not meant to be, I guess the thing with Twitter and, and maybe you can, uh, maybe this resonates with you, Owen, as a creative, right?

00:08:00.360 It's like, it seems sometimes that the things that you don't think are going to catch are the things that end up catching.

00:08:09.160 And then sometimes the thing that you refine and you try to make relevant and, and then you put it out into the world, it's just ill received.

00:08:15.560 Uh, I find sometimes that the thing that I don't even think about, I flippantly post it and imagine that it's going to land on deaf ears.

00:08:22.300 That's the thing that takes off.

00:08:23.640 Oh yeah.

00:08:24.180 Cause social media is all about, uh, reinforcing what someone feels or already is.

00:08:30.560 You know, I learned that I learned that the hard way for a lot of years where all those likes, typically it's someone saying, I approve of you for reinforcing me where it's like me, me, me.

00:08:42.260 And then if you don't feed them that they're like, no, like they're not really supporting you.

00:08:47.260 They're like supporting the mirror you're holding up.

00:08:49.500 You know?

00:08:50.560 So if you have a good audience, they do actually support you.

00:08:53.640 They're like, dude, not this one, but I still love you.

00:08:56.640 Big bear.

00:08:56.980 You know, like that's, that's the people you want where it's like you give them quality or laughs.

00:09:02.980 It's not that you reinforce whatever they are.

00:09:05.400 That's, that's a death spiral.

00:09:06.840 I've seen that happen, uh, you know, with people in the boomers where they just like, yeah, it's Nancy Pelosi.

00:09:12.600 We went to the moon.

00:09:13.400 They're like, and then if you like grow or change, but yeah, the, so a lot of times the thing that goes viral is you're triggering shame in people that you don't even know exists.

00:09:23.560 That happens to me all the time where I'm like, why, you know?

00:09:28.280 And like, for me, it was the, uh, I'd buy them where people were talking about abortion and how it has to be, you know, what are you supposed to do in the black community?

00:09:37.040 And I'm like, I'd buy them, you know, and give them a great life and do it.

00:09:40.820 I went viral with the blacks for weeks.

00:09:42.920 And I'm like, I, I'm telling you, I don't want you to die.

00:09:47.200 Like, what is, you know, I'm not saying I'm, I'd buy the blacks.

00:09:51.420 I'd prefer if they're white, but I still buy, I'd buy any of them.

00:09:55.560 I'm like, I give you a great life.

00:09:56.800 Take your labor 30 years.

00:09:58.080 It's like a mortgage, you know?

00:09:59.780 Right.

00:10:00.420 And, uh, and they're like, you mean adopt?

00:10:02.140 I'm like, how much does it cost to adopt?

00:10:05.660 Sure.

00:10:05.940 Whatever the price is.

00:10:07.160 I'm like, you're buying, you're buying.

00:10:08.920 It's a buying.

00:10:09.560 So you, you spend, it's spying Dave Rubin bought two little boys and that's how wizard

00:10:18.580 words work.

00:10:19.240 And that's why I'm always, the reason I have so much confidence in this.

00:10:23.180 Cause I'm, I know, know thyself.

00:10:25.120 Like I'm trying to help.

00:10:26.340 I'm like, you see it now?

00:10:28.400 Like, Hey, now that you have more awareness, your life will improve.

00:10:32.420 And they're like, no, but my feeling, I have this feeling and I reinforce it.

00:10:36.640 And it's like cancer, you know, of the soul.

00:10:38.800 You know, I'm like, yeah.

00:10:40.160 And my job is to help you with that.

00:10:42.320 You know?

00:10:42.580 And so that, that went nuts.

00:10:44.100 But the, the beauty is it starts flipping where all these blacks are like going nuts.

00:10:49.340 And then some of them started to be like, wait a minute, you'd rather I died.

00:10:53.600 And then the, cause the whites are like, how Daryl and Benjamin, how dare.

00:10:58.180 And then, and then some of the blacks are like, wait a minute.

00:11:01.400 So you think it's better if I was just killed in the womb than like I worked on a farm and

00:11:05.420 I'm like, here we go.

00:11:06.820 Those are the cool ones.

00:11:07.700 Those are the ones that get it right.

00:11:09.060 You, I know it's a, it's a triggering concept on its face.

00:11:13.160 It seems to fly, uh, at your sensibilities.

00:11:16.020 But if you really look at it, it's like, no, I, I value your life.

00:11:18.820 I value your life.

00:11:20.680 Exactly.

00:11:21.280 Exactly.

00:11:21.640 And that's what you, well, I started laughing when you were like, I flipped it and tried

00:11:25.020 to show the other side.

00:11:25.860 Cause that's always what gets me in trouble.

00:11:27.240 Cause you're establishing metaphysical truth outside of identity.

00:11:31.020 And that's always when people freak out where you're like, well, what if the roles will

00:11:34.520 reverse?

00:11:34.980 Let's figure out the rules of engagement.

00:11:36.980 And they're like, ah, because that's the whole thing.

00:11:41.340 Yes.

00:11:41.740 You know, it's like, imagine if you said this or if that, and then they're like, no,

00:11:45.360 though, but no though.

00:11:46.760 And then you're just like, what?

00:11:48.340 That's why I have such a somewhat archaic views of the world where, where men and women

00:11:54.340 are different, where the same rules don't apply.

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00:12:37.420 Hashtag make a play.

00:12:39.880 But other than that, you have to be able to establish what truth is and what, you know,

00:12:44.900 what a word means, like, why can this group say a word and not this group?

00:12:50.680 Like, you know, like people, like that Dave Chappelle joke.

00:12:53.120 I mean, Dave Chappelle nailed it with the, no, Dave, you can't say that because you're

00:12:57.600 not gay.

00:12:58.900 And he's like, I'm also not a, you know, and then he drops the, for the record, I dropped

00:13:03.160 the N.

00:13:03.580 I'm just not going to in case this is on a platform.

00:13:05.860 Yeah.

00:13:06.340 It turns out right now we're, we're in sensitive waters.

00:13:08.620 They might, uh, uh, show up at my kid's school again.

00:13:11.220 Oh yeah.

00:13:11.760 But also Benjamin on and he said, nigger, but the, but the point is so valid, you know,

00:13:17.940 like I would, and I was talking to Jake Shields about this and he nailed it.

00:13:21.120 He's like, if a black dude is like, I don't say the word I appreciate if you didn't no problem.

00:13:26.460 But if it's like, I get to, but you don't, it's like, why?

00:13:30.280 And Dave Chappelle's whole joke was about that.

00:13:31.980 It's because they're saying that they are that, which I believe is a behavior, not a

00:13:36.180 skin color.

00:13:37.260 So it's like, they're, they're basically telling you that they're like scumbags.

00:13:40.860 It's like, if I said, don't say white trash around me.

00:13:43.080 Cause I'm white trash.

00:13:44.440 Right.

00:13:45.200 It's like, what?

00:13:46.060 It's so backward.

00:13:47.160 And then you have to realize that a lot of people are, are like fucking crazy where, well,

00:13:51.980 they'll just like, look at you.

00:13:52.880 Like, yeah, like I'm that, you know?

00:13:55.560 And you're like, holy shit.

00:13:56.700 I'm like stuck in, in like a weird little pocket of hell.

00:14:00.020 I'm getting the hell out of here.

00:14:00.960 Well, I, you know what I, I do notice a lot.

00:14:03.420 So you said like, people are crazy, right?

00:14:05.640 And when you, when you say something that's inflammatory and people have an opportunity

00:14:09.720 to interact with not only you, but like a, like a viral tweet, let's say, um, they are

00:14:15.480 more so interacting with like an object.

00:14:18.680 They don't recognize you as an individual.

00:14:20.960 And then, and that, and that's okay.

00:14:21.860 I'm not even saying that that's wrong.

00:14:23.400 So, so when I see people spurging out in the comment section or when people are DMing me

00:14:28.800 really, really obtuse shit, it doesn't make me mad.

00:14:32.260 I'm not even mad that this happened.

00:14:33.680 I just like, I, I kind of get it.

00:14:36.620 There's something, uh, well, it's not you.

00:14:40.520 It's like, it's not me.

00:14:41.400 And it's something that calls you, you know, there's like this, this craziness that calls

00:14:45.500 to you.

00:14:45.840 Like if you're not somebody who has typically who has a voice, I think maybe that's like

00:14:49.540 the big separation here.

00:14:50.680 It's like, I have a platform.

00:14:51.620 I'm talking shit all the time.

00:14:52.660 I'm on Twitter and I'm, I'm talking shit.

00:14:54.480 And then it's getting, you know, it's, it's gaining momentum and that to the out from the

00:14:58.900 outside looking at is indicative of having a voice and you don't get to contribute in

00:15:02.000 this conversation.

00:15:02.620 So when you do, it's kind of like this pent up thing.

00:15:05.400 And then you just let some crazy shit fly.

00:15:07.220 And I look at that and I, I don't go, I don't even go, wow, what a terrible person, because

00:15:11.940 chances are just given your, your data chunking in life and the amount of people that you bump

00:15:16.180 into, they're not a terrible person or a regular person going through a regular everyday

00:15:20.560 life, but they otherwise don't have a voice and are pretty used to being ignored on social

00:15:25.400 media or by creators or whatever.

00:15:27.680 But that's why, this is why I've taken the last, I don't know, four years or so to really

00:15:32.080 build this social media gathering that I have, because I realized that a lot of this battle

00:15:37.080 with, I mean, listen, politics are gay or whatever, but if I can move the needle just

00:15:40.600 a little bit, I think it's, for me, it's hilarious.

00:15:43.600 Like I, at this point I have my finger on the bowl.

00:15:45.680 I can kind of push it here and there, wherever I want.

00:15:47.600 And before the election, again, don't really care about the election, but before that went

00:15:51.580 back on Facebook and I shared with my friends and family, Hey, I think it's really funny

00:15:56.880 now that all of you guys completely opposed me and my, just my views and like my way of

00:16:02.620 self-preservation and to the point where you, some of you might actually hate me, but I've

00:16:06.700 spent the last four years garnering an audience to cancel out your opinion.

00:16:12.020 Like if I'm swinging a 40,000 person hammer and you're coming with one, I just let them

00:16:17.440 know, like, you don't matter.

00:16:18.940 This is the game that's being played and it's unfortunate, but it's the truth.

00:16:22.580 And it's kind of like, this is why I'm doing a lot of what I'm doing because the culture

00:16:26.480 is fucked up and I got to leave something good for my kids.

00:16:28.740 Like a house is not good enough.

00:16:30.520 Yeah.

00:16:30.660 And also crazy doesn't mean bad.

00:16:32.800 So when you're like, um, they're not bad people totally.

00:16:36.280 I'm not saying that they're like bad, but they're crazy.

00:16:39.340 And I believe crazy is, uh, uh, there's a term logical insanity where, when you're in

00:16:44.780 a bunch of constructs, you're making decisions based on false premises.

00:16:48.680 To me, that's like, there's insanity to that.

00:16:51.280 Yes.

00:16:52.040 You know, where you're like, I like this word means that like all the logic proofs, it's

00:16:56.460 like the premises are so off that that's what I think the simulation is where you're in

00:17:01.480 a simulated world where you're, you know, like vegan, uh, fake steak.

00:17:07.800 Well, they're eating that for health, you know, and, and, and like to not have, uh, harm

00:17:12.960 to animals.

00:17:13.920 It's so unbelievably fake.

00:17:16.200 Like every layer of that, like how many animals have to die to get this soy?

00:17:19.440 And then they put the chemicals in it and you need to fight a war in Guatemala to get

00:17:23.460 the rights to the minerals.

00:17:24.460 It's like so insane that I'm like, that's crazy.

00:17:27.540 Like you're so detached from reality.

00:17:29.180 That's why I went back to the beginning and I do what I do, but yeah, you're right.

00:17:32.820 It's like the world we live, we're going to garner that type of reaction.

00:17:37.260 And it's fair.

00:17:38.340 You know, it's like when I make fun of comics and Whitney candle face Cummings pretends

00:17:42.380 like it's bad to make fun of comedians.

00:17:45.960 I'm like, dude, we're like, that's what we do.

00:17:48.820 Like that's, you have to be able to take it, you know?

00:17:52.320 Not that I, Owen, um, get too wrapped up in individuals or famous people or anything like

00:17:57.720 that, but it is interesting to me to watch the development of like a Whitney Cummings.

00:18:01.520 And, and I think this might be interesting to you because the bent that she's taken lately

00:18:05.040 is sort of a conspiracy one.

00:18:06.760 And to me, I don't think that that's, I wouldn't say like Whitney Cummings is grifting or anything

00:18:12.020 like that.

00:18:12.440 I think that is indicative of conspiracy becoming a real part of the cultural conversation.

00:18:18.580 Whereas, you know, years ago when somebody was like, like you was, was, um, sounding

00:18:24.100 the alarm, everybody had the, um, ability to bury their head in the sand because we just

00:18:30.780 weren't there yet.

00:18:31.480 It wasn't like the water was boiling.

00:18:33.300 And so if you were essentially in many ways, like the guy in the corner in the soapbox,

00:18:37.200 uh, publicly for the stuff she's now grifting with.

00:18:40.900 So, and the Panda, she just did a pandas or fake bit.

00:18:45.200 I'm like, Oh yeah.

00:18:46.640 And when I was getting canceled from PayPal and everything with a new baby, she was like

00:18:52.280 saying that I was like crazy and talking shit on Theo Vaughn's podcast and all this, but

00:18:56.900 yeah, I don't hold, I get what you're saying.

00:18:59.260 I see it as like Tesla and Edison where it's like, if you want to be Tesla and be way ahead

00:19:03.960 of the curve, like you're going to be broke with a pigeon, you know?

00:19:07.660 And you just got to accept that like to scale up.

00:19:12.200 I, I'm not saying she's a grift.

00:19:13.680 I was just, uh, I get what you're saying.

00:19:15.620 She's standardizing.

00:19:16.760 She's a, it's a deafness, isn't it?

00:19:19.560 Because it's like, you're going forward and you're doing this thing and you're not looking

00:19:22.360 back in hindsight at all at the way that you previously cast a judgment and dismiss these

00:19:26.620 things outright.

00:19:27.500 Right.

00:19:27.980 And so people like you suffered to whatever degree you suffered and you're not somebody

00:19:32.020 that's sitting there bitching about it, but it's like you did partake in that thing

00:19:36.960 where you cast it out.

00:19:38.540 Somebody who was saying things that you're saying now all these years later.

00:19:42.180 And, and it's not indicative of like a grift as much in my opinion, as it is like blindness,

00:19:47.600 like lack of self-awareness.

00:19:49.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:19:50.120 It's like, you're blind to the feelings of Dayquil.

00:19:53.100 Like little Dayquil's at home right now sobbing his black little eyes out and you're just having

00:19:57.460 a laugh with old lobster up here.

00:19:59.380 That's it.

00:19:59.880 No, but yeah.

00:20:00.480 Yeah.

00:20:00.660 I don't think that it's like malicious.

00:20:02.220 Like, it's not like they're sitting around like, Oh, I think what it is, you know, like

00:20:06.580 I can now see how Joe Rogan was actually trying to give me good advice and that on that intervention

00:20:15.360 he did about my Twitter, but it's good advice to scale in business as a comedian, not artistically.

00:20:22.180 We were having two totally different conversations where he's like, like, if you're operating in

00:20:27.800 a network of just giant companies, you have to standardize for things that you don't even

00:20:32.960 realize are important where it's like, um, for life, like, I think a lot of COVID had to do with

00:20:38.680 insurance liability and like those little machine parts were just clicking into place and people

00:20:43.980 were doing total nonsense to each other.

00:20:46.020 And I don't regret any of that.

00:20:49.220 Cause I still, I still like my points, but I just couldn't see his point.

00:20:52.800 I'm like, Oh, he's trying to take me down or something.

00:20:55.180 And he's like, no, you can't do custom parts for a Chevy.

00:21:00.500 You know, he's like saying, you can't scale.

00:21:02.680 You're going to end up in Idaho in a barn.

00:21:04.680 And I'm like, I want to end up in Idaho in a barn.

00:21:07.400 Like, I want that.

00:21:08.860 Like, I want to be, make the little ripples that become waves.

00:21:12.520 And yeah, like what top was just talking about where it's like for the, for your kid's future,

00:21:17.980 where you have real community where, and I'm the same way as him, where it's like, I, I,

00:21:23.020 I can source all my own food and everything now.

00:21:26.800 Like I don't, I can just look at like grocery stores that wanted to put a mask on my kid

00:21:31.560 and be like, I've cut you out of the equation.

00:21:33.740 Like you don't matter anymore.

00:21:35.020 And I want to, and I want to keep doing that to the point where like Britaria times app,

00:21:39.580 like we have our own social media.

00:21:40.920 It's like, it's like, oh, aren't you worried about what Elon's going to do?

00:21:44.140 I'm like, it'll only get me more people on my, I'm like, he's no, I've already set up

00:21:49.960 a whole alternative.

00:21:51.340 I don't trust any of these people.

00:21:52.620 No one's going to fucking Mars.

00:21:54.540 Like, what are they talking about?

00:21:56.780 Right.

00:21:57.680 It, um, it, it's an interesting thing to watching the development.

00:22:01.540 Speaking of, of Elon Musk, uh, you have this kind of band hammer that he dropped recently.

00:22:07.460 And I know he like kind of banned all these gripers.

00:22:10.680 Before we go there, let me, uh, I wanted to just piggyback off of what Owen was saying

00:22:14.720 with your, cause you just got advice from Joe wrote.

00:22:17.420 Well, you did not just, but a couple of years ago, got advice from Joe Rogan.

00:22:20.440 Didn't realize it was advice, but it is advice.

00:22:22.340 And now that you're saying that the thing that happened with me and Tim Poole on, uh,

00:22:27.660 it was on Christmas day, uh, it was advice.

00:22:30.760 I, I perceived it as a threat and it was like, right.

00:22:35.600 That's, uh, did you perceive that as a threat from Rogan as well?

00:22:38.300 Did it feel like that?

00:22:39.360 Yes.

00:22:40.320 Okay.

00:22:40.760 It's right.

00:22:41.840 What happened with Timmy Poole?

00:22:43.120 Like, what was he saying to you?

00:22:44.300 Uh, he was running cover for, uh, the Babylon Bee again, who's shitting on, you know, Christianity

00:22:51.020 and just, they're doing this aversive thing.

00:22:53.300 And then he runs cover for them.

00:22:54.560 And I just say, Hey, like, uh, are you getting paid from Ben Shapiro already?

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00:23:39.280 Hashtag make a play.

00:23:40.740 And he freaks out.

00:23:43.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:44.280 Whatever.

00:23:44.720 It was at the time where he may, he was maybe selling to the Daily Wire.

00:23:47.960 So he like, he gets mad and he kind of like plays stupid to his large audience.

00:23:51.880 And I'm like, don't fucking play stupid.

00:23:53.420 Like, I know that some of your audience is dumb, but we see what you're doing.

00:23:57.600 Clearly.

00:23:57.800 I know that all of your audience is dumb, but like, I literally don't want to be dumb.

00:24:06.020 Like they have to be dumb to watch a guy in the summer when a beanie just being like, World War

00:24:10.500 Three is right around the corner.

00:24:11.560 I mean, like, it's insane.

00:24:13.100 It's like insanity.

00:24:13.980 That's what I mean by insanity.

00:24:15.020 Is he a bad person?

00:24:16.200 I don't know.

00:24:17.080 But he's nuts.

00:24:18.420 You know?

00:24:19.080 No, he's for sure crazy.

00:24:20.060 I don't think he's a bad person.

00:24:21.080 Like I met him in real life.

00:24:22.120 I think he's just kind of a douche, but, uh, it goes on like, he starts to like, try

00:24:27.260 to like poke back at me.

00:24:28.660 And at some point I just correct him.

00:24:30.320 I do the Michael Malice, your, you know, uh, asterisk where I spell it wrong and his

00:24:34.960 audience bites.

00:24:36.080 And I'm just like, that was like a quick, that was a low effort midwit test for your

00:24:39.740 audience.

00:24:40.280 Beautiful.

00:24:40.880 I love that.

00:24:41.260 All failed.

00:24:42.140 Yeah.

00:24:42.460 It's like, did you eat breakfast?

00:24:43.440 How would you feel if you ate breakfast this morning?

00:24:44.800 And they just fucking fail miserably.

00:24:46.200 So then he goes on to blame me.

00:24:48.400 He's like, the reason why the anti-war movement is, has fell on its face is because of you.

00:24:54.420 Oh, I saw that.

00:24:55.240 I remember that.

00:24:55.700 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 You and your psycho bunch.

00:24:57.820 I responded to that.

00:24:58.540 I'm like, oh yeah, Ben Shapiro is part of the anti-war movement or something.

00:25:01.980 Yeah.

00:25:02.340 Yeah.

00:25:02.540 Or like, I'm stopping them.

00:25:04.300 Sure.

00:25:04.800 Right.

00:25:05.240 Right.

00:25:05.540 Right.

00:25:05.980 And then he goes on further.

00:25:07.740 He said something like, I can't even find it.

00:25:09.900 This is how fast Twitter moves, but he's like, uh, you know, like basically you're not

00:25:14.100 going to climb the ladder.

00:25:15.260 Yeah.

00:25:15.760 Yeah.

00:25:16.060 I read it as like, like, oh, well, I'm not going to like, oh, he said you or what he

00:25:21.380 said, um, what are you going to do?

00:25:23.300 Are you going to, uh, ruin all your opportunities and then when there's none left, you're going

00:25:29.960 to blame the Jews.

00:25:30.620 Something to that effect is, is what he said.

00:25:32.560 Yeah.

00:25:32.880 He's basically like, oh, so you're just going to go ahead and ruin all of your opportunities

00:25:36.320 and then blame the Jews for it.

00:25:39.000 And I think I responded something like, like, I don't know, are you going to let them just

00:25:43.060 give you your opportunities?

00:25:44.060 These are, I don't remember, but I read it as a threat and it's not a threat.

00:25:47.000 It was a, it was a warning to like, like, Hey, play the game.

00:25:51.400 Exactly.

00:25:52.480 And I have no interest in that.

00:25:54.180 Yeah.

00:25:54.560 And I don't mind people doing that.

00:25:57.260 Yeah.

00:25:57.620 It's just artistic.

00:25:58.660 It's, it's the art in the business.

00:26:00.220 It's like, I, if I was going to be into the business and the money, I'd be a corporate

00:26:05.100 lawyer.

00:26:05.480 Like I'm a really good public speaker.

00:26:08.160 I'm awesome at forming arguments.

00:26:09.900 My dad was a rhetoric professor.

00:26:11.280 I'm like, yeah, I, do you know how much money you can make if you get a third of a class

00:26:14.940 action lawsuit?

00:26:15.760 I'm like, why would I be a comedian?

00:26:18.580 You know, it's like when I started a comedy, comics, weren't making the money they are now.

00:26:24.560 It was like nothing like that.

00:26:25.640 It was like, you had to do it for the art, like the rush of like getting to that, that

00:26:29.800 truth, that bit.

00:26:31.080 And then just doing it.

00:26:32.180 It's like a, it's, it's intense.

00:26:34.460 It's like almost like a calling.

00:26:35.760 It's like, that's why sometimes I'll be flipping out and people don't even know what I'm flipping

00:26:39.260 out about.

00:26:39.860 They're like, oh no, but isn't it cool that they're joining the movement?

00:26:42.900 I'm like, I'm not in a movement.

00:26:44.620 I'm a comic.

00:26:45.340 That's my bit.

00:26:47.360 You know what I mean?

00:26:48.680 I'm like, that's my joke.

00:26:50.020 Like it's, I'm not, I don't sit around being like Indians.

00:26:53.880 We got to join forces.

00:26:55.540 I'm like just doing bits based on reality, you know?

00:26:59.600 Yeah, you can't be too attached to the bit either.

00:27:01.920 Like the second you are, it's not, it's not funny anymore.

00:27:04.860 You have to be able to move within it, you know?

00:27:06.900 Well, I had, uh, both you guys and Leonardo, cause this is my first time having, you know,

00:27:13.360 garnered the attention of that many people in, in such a flippant way in the stupid Twitter

00:27:17.260 post.

00:27:17.620 And there was a moment where I'm like looking at this and I'm kind of like, oh my God,

00:27:21.420 man, what the fuck is going on?

00:27:22.700 And I'm having fun.

00:27:23.440 Like I'm dropping memes and I'm being combative and it's, I texted you, David.

00:27:26.960 I said it was at like 6 million impressions.

00:27:28.980 And I go, David, cause I've, I've done this a couple of times before.

00:27:31.900 I said like, you're at the point now is like, are you going to continue to, uh, like pour

00:27:36.300 gasoline on this fire or are you just going to like ease back?

00:27:39.320 Like I was asking him, did you retweet it yet?

00:27:41.220 Did you add it to your own highlights?

00:27:42.540 These are things to boost into the algorithm.

00:27:44.320 Yeah.

00:27:45.640 Yeah.

00:27:45.980 It's a proliferated even more.

00:27:47.580 And I'm asking him and apparently you took it as like a challenge or something.

00:27:50.840 And I was like, no, I took it as a challenge.

00:27:52.520 It was just like, um, I was still in the stage where I was having fun.

00:27:56.000 Right.

00:27:56.240 I, I mean, I have to imagine, um, top you've had this happen several times and, and Owen,

00:28:01.700 you're a public speaker, you know, you have an audience.

00:28:04.640 Well, that's what I'm saying.

00:28:05.640 I was warning you.

00:28:06.760 It's like, I was still having a good time.

00:28:09.100 And then I got it.

00:28:10.900 That's good to know.

00:28:11.720 So, so David, I was explaining scale to you.

00:28:14.800 Yeah.

00:28:15.160 I wasn't getting it.

00:28:16.160 I'm very small minded.

00:28:17.460 So, um, I, I, but I do see at some point I see, cause I'm kind of lost in the, in the

00:28:23.460 sauce, right?

00:28:24.080 I'm just smacking people with memes and I'm, I'm saying I'm too shit and I'm, I'm laughing,

00:28:29.080 but I'm also kind of freaking out.

00:28:30.300 And then I see Owen and Owen makes a bicycle joke and I go, ah, Owen's been through this

00:28:35.540 a lot.

00:28:36.020 And, and look at him.

00:28:37.000 He's crushing.

00:28:37.680 He's okay.

00:28:38.320 He's got a beautiful family and a, and a nice operation going on.

00:28:42.240 And I feel a little bit good about that.

00:28:43.900 Right.

00:28:44.040 And then all of a sudden Leonardo Joni pops up and I'm reminded of like all the, the Indian

00:28:47.520 interaction and how crazy it went for her.

00:28:49.380 And I'm like, look at her.

00:28:50.340 She's crushing.

00:28:51.020 Everything's good.

00:28:51.480 Right.

00:28:51.640 And then you pop up top.

00:28:52.600 And I'm like, top's dealt with this a hundred times.

00:28:55.120 It does pass.

00:28:56.060 It is okay.

00:28:57.100 But you know, here I am today with a different story, but I mean, you know, it's a, it's,

00:29:01.920 it's a weird thing.

00:29:02.920 I've only ever had it happen one time.

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00:29:17.480 Hashtag make a play.

00:29:18.860 Previously, I reached out to a guy named John Wayne Parr.

00:29:22.700 He's a kickboxer.

00:29:23.740 And I wanted to have him on my old show.

00:29:25.800 And he was a guy that I thought had a good sense of humor.

00:29:28.700 So I made a joke that just didn't land.

00:29:30.720 It was a bad joke.

00:29:31.420 It was my fault.

00:29:33.060 But I basically said something as a small podcast at the time.

00:29:36.080 I said, you're going to want to align yourself with me.

00:29:37.820 I've got a lot of promising things on the horizon.

00:29:39.400 I think it'll be good for your brand.

00:29:40.560 We should get together sometime.

00:29:42.180 And, and this just lands completely the wrong way, which in hindsight makes a lot of sense.

00:29:47.020 It was pretty retarded, but he then exposes me to his audience.

00:29:50.520 He goes, Hey, look at this retard.

00:29:51.820 And then thousands of people agree unanimously.

00:29:54.980 I think three people were like, actually, it's a pretty funny joke.

00:29:57.420 Uh, but the rest of them all came for me and that was a long time ago.

00:30:01.140 And in that moment, the big deal was that I was clearly no one with no audience or anything

00:30:09.360 like that.

00:30:09.940 Very small show that nobody listened to.

00:30:12.540 And I was telling him that I had a lot of promising things on the horizon and it would

00:30:16.560 be good for his brand.

00:30:17.940 If he aligned with me, which is, you know, like, how is that not fun?

00:30:22.060 Like, I don't even understand how someone could get a, it's like, look, he thinks he's

00:30:25.360 something he's not.

00:30:26.180 Is that exactly what happened?

00:30:28.880 That's he thinks he's something that's that he's not.

00:30:31.280 And then I was attacked in mass by thousands of people.

00:30:34.080 And it was my first time ever having that.

00:30:36.320 And then you're just like kicking is gay.

00:30:40.180 I should have fucking said no.

00:30:42.080 Instead, I just crumbled and freaked out.

00:30:43.700 I would, Oh my fucking God.

00:30:44.840 I'm sitting at my welding job, trying to focus on doing my work on a production time.

00:30:48.880 It's so insane when everyone's coming at you like that animal instinct of like, I just

00:30:54.720 got kicked out of the tribe is so intense.

00:30:57.820 Yes.

00:30:58.140 Nothing like that.

00:30:58.980 First time.

00:31:00.100 You don't have to answer any of these people.

00:31:01.680 You don't even have to read it.

00:31:02.700 That's the crazy part.

00:31:03.460 Like when it happens, I go, it seems like a lot of people are mad.

00:31:06.660 And I put my phone down.

00:31:07.680 I do something else.

00:31:08.680 Dude, no one has ever, there's been one time in my entire life that someone has said that

00:31:16.160 they were offended by me in public ever once.

00:31:18.820 Even when I lived in like New York or near Seattle, it's all an illusion, dude.

00:31:23.320 It's just nuts.

00:31:24.380 Yes.

00:31:24.780 So on that note, what I, what I'll say, and I want to move on to a different conversation

00:31:29.920 I had in mind, but, um, the people, the vast majority of people that responded are people

00:31:35.400 who are expressing like empathy, like I have had this experience as well, because it was

00:31:40.160 just about black people and how they, you know, who hasn't been targeted by black people.

00:31:43.720 Let's get real, man.

00:31:44.440 That's exactly it.

00:31:44.980 They drink purple drank and act like monkey.

00:31:50.240 Like everybody knows that they've had an experience, but that's it.

00:31:54.860 That's, that was the great connective tissue.

00:31:56.600 That's why it went viral.

00:31:57.680 The reason it went viral is for two.

00:31:59.160 It's twofold.

00:32:00.340 Yeah.

00:32:00.760 Because it's relatable and everyone's like, they did it to me.

00:32:02.980 They did it to my kid and they did it to my grandkid.

00:32:05.180 Uh, but the other one is because black people, this is how black Twitter handled it.

00:32:09.220 They go, it's not true.

00:32:11.080 This guy, this guy's a fucking liar.

00:32:12.260 And I'm like, why do you need this to be not true?

00:32:14.520 This is a pretty benign tweet.

00:32:16.240 It's just a story about my kid.

00:32:17.720 They know when they do it, it's not true.

00:32:19.400 They're projecting.

00:32:20.120 They're like, it's a, it's not true.

00:32:22.240 Whenever someone does this racial thing for sympathy, it's fake.

00:32:25.740 Trust us.

00:32:26.300 We like, no one's ever do the most lynching in American history was Italian.

00:32:31.580 No one ever really gets hung.

00:32:34.160 Like dude, Sandpoint, Idaho, where I live is known for hanging people off the bridge back

00:32:38.960 in the day.

00:32:39.540 Totally.

00:32:40.120 They were like all white.

00:32:41.460 It's like when you stole a horse, you got hung.

00:32:44.380 And so this whole idea of like, Oh, did you see the way that not is?

00:32:48.800 I'm like, shut the fuck up, man.

00:32:51.580 I just, dude, that's why I've been studying narcissistic personality disorder.

00:32:55.940 It's like, it's, it's an old trauma that can never be fixed that you use to justify horrible

00:33:02.760 behavior.

00:33:03.200 It's literally in the, in like a cycle psychology textbook, what these people are doing.

00:33:08.440 That's why I do the bike joke.

00:33:10.000 And they fall for it every time.

00:33:11.600 I'm like, I need the blacks to apologize about the bikes.

00:33:14.560 I'm still looking into it.

00:33:15.520 And they're like, get over it.

00:33:17.360 All of us didn't steal your bike.

00:33:19.380 I'm like, did we all put you in fucking chain?

00:33:22.180 Shut your fucking mouth.

00:33:23.420 And they're like, that's it.

00:33:24.840 That's it.

00:33:25.320 Right there.

00:33:25.780 That's it.

00:33:26.160 But see, they don't correct because they're actually narcissists.

00:33:29.640 So it's like, you can never tell a narcissist like, Hey man, you're real narcissistic.

00:33:34.180 Like they don't ever correct.

00:33:36.600 Like their whole world is to protect that.

00:33:39.040 So they just are like, okay, we call CPS.

00:33:41.940 We try and get the loan removed from his house.

00:33:43.820 Like they don't even think what is truth.

00:33:46.040 They think, what do I perceive is hurting my ego?

00:33:49.100 And that's why when I do this shit, it's for everybody else.

00:33:52.040 It's not the target.

00:33:53.040 The target's fucked.

00:33:54.420 Like they're never, they're never going to be like, you know, the way you say it like

00:33:58.720 that.

00:33:59.240 Yeah.

00:33:59.640 You never put me in chains.

00:34:01.060 You're like Irish and shit.

00:34:02.440 And I wasn't even born yet.

00:34:04.100 And I've had a really good life.

00:34:05.580 No, no, no, no, no, no.

00:34:06.600 They're like, you owe me.

00:34:08.340 That's why I'm like the, since the black stole my bike, they owe me.

00:34:12.900 And cause my thing is so fucking stupid.

00:34:15.840 If you don't see it, you're crazy.

00:34:19.020 Yes.

00:34:19.440 And that's like my test.

00:34:20.580 I'm like, then you're totally, I'm 11 years old.

00:34:23.440 And that's why I keep adding to the bit where I'm like, you know, allegedly, but now I'm

00:34:28.260 starting to like question, even if it was a black guy, if it was even real, was this

00:34:32.920 a dream?

00:34:33.680 No, the bike theft was, it's all totally real.

00:34:37.060 It's just like, I didn't see a black guy take it.

00:34:40.460 So I'm, I'm still doing, I assume it was a guy named Jamal, you know, but I didn't, I

00:34:46.380 don't know for sure, but in my mind, it was, it was Bryson gray.

00:34:51.740 Like I see his face as clear as day in my mind.

00:34:54.300 And he was actually born the year and day my bike was stolen.

00:34:57.320 I remember you tweeting that.

00:34:58.680 That was the most insane shit I've ever seen in my life.

00:35:01.520 Speaking of, speaking of like a typical behavior, did you see him fighting in the parking lot

00:35:05.520 at some CPAC conference?

00:35:07.760 Bryson did?

00:35:08.700 Yeah.

00:35:09.040 Yeah.

00:35:09.440 Yeah.

00:35:09.680 He's throwing a disc cup.

00:35:11.460 Did someone step on his new Nike shoe?

00:35:14.180 That's the thing.

00:35:14.680 No.

00:35:15.160 The narcissism is, is so spot on.

00:35:17.560 I've never really thought about it, but they wear it on the outside.

00:35:20.240 Like, dude, cultures can have narcissism.

00:35:23.680 That's the same with like Jews.

00:35:24.900 It's like, you can know some that are great.

00:35:27.120 Overall, the culture is we are owed something because of the Pharaoh and Hitler.

00:35:31.720 Like we're really special, but really like in pain all the time.

00:35:36.040 You know, you have grandiose narcissism and covert narcissism, vulnerable narcissism, where

00:35:40.480 it's like, where it's like, Alan did like, must be nice is literally a catchphrase for

00:35:46.140 covert, covert narcissism.

00:35:47.580 Where it's like, it might be nice to have a family that loves you.

00:35:49.920 I'm just trying.

00:35:51.160 It's all about sucking sympathy out of anyone until they just, and it ends so bad.

00:35:57.000 That's why I'm like trying to help.

00:35:58.160 I'm trying to like help them.

00:35:59.340 I'm like, this does not go well for anyone who does this.

00:36:03.400 And so quote unquote, black culture does the same shit.

00:36:07.680 It's all about external appearance.

00:36:10.080 Black is more grandiose narcissism.

00:36:12.900 Like get the big purple hat for church and shit.

00:36:15.640 Like they're nuts, you know, where it's like, look at my big purple hat.

00:36:19.880 It's like, don't know.

00:36:20.600 You ain't got no money.

00:36:21.560 You motherfucker.

00:36:22.240 It's like, oh, bitch, I'm the, I'm the best bitch.

00:36:25.240 Look at my purple suit.

00:36:26.380 It's fucking like madness.

00:36:28.240 Yeah.

00:36:28.720 And so then who do they blame?

00:36:30.100 They blame anyone that isn't mentally ill.

00:36:33.160 Literally.

00:36:34.100 You see joy on the face of someone like me.

00:36:37.220 Like I dress like I, I get my clothes at like a fucking feed store.

00:36:41.140 And they're just like, you're a failure.

00:36:43.400 You, you look like shit.

00:36:44.940 You, you pool.

00:36:45.900 You ain't got no stinky on your hang dick and whatever, whatever the fuck they say.

00:36:49.540 And I'm like, why?

00:36:50.880 Because I don't front.

00:36:52.260 I drive an old truck.

00:36:53.840 Like, no, I have no debt.

00:36:55.340 I have means of production for all my food.

00:36:57.580 Like I, I own.

00:36:59.140 Oh, you own shit.

00:37:00.680 You want to own me?

00:37:03.180 Dayquil.

00:37:03.780 Get the fuck.

00:37:04.240 And that's why it ends up in like camps and prisons and shit.

00:37:07.720 Cause people are like, if the whole world acted like you, there's no food.

00:37:12.180 There's no anything because you don't work like that.

00:37:14.940 The Jews, a lot of them are the rich version of that.

00:37:17.880 There's something called communal narcissism where they want to look like they're saving

00:37:22.300 the world in public.

00:37:23.480 That's literally a mental illness where it's like, Ticam Olam, I'm saving the world.

00:37:29.240 Did you know that the seas are rising?

00:37:31.420 It's like, dude, you just shit your pants and you're a porn addict.

00:37:34.720 And you're like, oh, you hate me.

00:37:36.780 Piles of shoes.

00:37:38.140 That's why I'm like, I'm not, I'm not going to be around you people anymore.

00:37:41.460 I'm going to mock you from a distance.

00:37:43.000 It's going to be good for you.

00:37:44.140 And I think it's funny.

00:37:45.320 And that's, that's it.

00:37:46.480 Like, that's the whole thing.

00:37:47.840 I didn't think that I was saying anything too extreme.

00:37:50.140 I kind of wanted to tweet back at some people.

00:37:52.300 Like y'all do be beating people up though, right?

00:37:54.080 Like, you know, they hate when you're happy.

00:37:55.920 They hate when you're not afraid.

00:37:57.840 Joy is the number one trigger of a covert narcissist.

00:38:01.200 We're like, Ira Roth is on his yacht.

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00:39:33.060 Oh, yeah.

00:39:34.580 And if you see me on a pontoon boat, like, happy, they're like, oh, deplorable behavior.

00:39:40.480 Like, they can't stand when people have genuine joy and gratitude in their life,

00:39:45.540 especially for simple things, where it's like, man, I just saw a sunflower going through the crack of a,

00:39:50.520 of a, you know, a sidewalk.

00:39:52.940 They'd be like, oh, you're trying to turn me into soap, you piece of shit.

00:39:56.880 It's like, there's such evil sacks of, like, that's so fucked up when you get to the point

00:40:01.840 where you hate joy.

00:40:03.580 That's why they hate kids.

00:40:04.820 That's why they want to traumatize kids, because kids look at the world the way they can't.

00:40:10.160 So they're like, they want to, whatever they're compared to, that's what I think the theory of

00:40:14.420 relativity actually is.

00:40:15.740 It's like, compared to you, I'm a piece of shit, because you're happy, and I have the whole world,

00:40:21.620 and I, I'm not happy, and that, it's so biblical, dude.

00:40:24.420 It's like, they, they won the material realm, and they can't feel joy, and some asshole can just

00:40:30.780 be like, look, a butterfly, and they're like, ah, it might be nice.

00:40:34.980 That means you stole.

00:40:36.280 Like, everything I built, I build, like, the covert narcissist will still be like,

00:40:40.600 oh, he stole it from his listeners.

00:40:43.060 I'm like, and I used to try and explain it to them.

00:40:45.700 I'm like, oh, no, it's not, this is this, and this is what we do.

00:40:48.180 You can't explain it.

00:40:48.860 Oh, no, but they don't want, they don't give a fuck.

00:40:51.260 They want to harm, they're like, I'm going to hurt you, and make you afraid, because

00:40:54.960 I'm afraid, and I'm fucked up, and I'm like, I'm not going to change you, right?

00:40:59.200 Oh, no, so I don't care about you anymore.

00:41:01.220 Like, you can just wail away in the night, and then you build your own shit, and you do

00:41:05.360 better.

00:41:05.840 Like, I'm doing better now than I would have if I didn't build my own shit.

00:41:10.120 I'm like, yeah, I'm not in your network anymore.

00:41:12.720 What's that?

00:41:12.980 I had an interaction with somebody where I said that.

00:41:14.800 I said, look, man, there is nuance to this take, whatever you think my position is on,

00:41:20.940 on black people, there's nuance to it, but you're not here for nuance.

00:41:24.120 You're here to dunk on me, and I am here to dunk on you, and I am happy that we're doing

00:41:29.040 this.

00:41:29.240 This is fine, so let's leave it at that, and I think that, I mean, there's places for

00:41:34.760 nuance, but what's clear is social media and Twitter is more like a release valve of some

00:41:39.320 crazy shit, and we've seen the pendulum swing.

00:41:41.800 I know we talked about this on the last episode, and we actually just aired our throwback episode

00:41:46.140 with you the other day with a little bit of footage on the end, kind of talking about

00:41:50.800 it.

00:41:50.980 Go ahead, Tom.

00:41:51.260 Yeah, yeah, we recap, like, instead of, you know, because we're trying to, like, give the

00:41:55.160 audience as much as possible, so we gave them, like, extra 30 minutes of us talking about

00:41:58.500 your episode that you were on, I guess, six months to a year ago.

00:42:02.800 About a year ago, yeah.

00:42:03.820 Yeah, and it's like, huh, everything you said there was almost completely justified, especially

00:42:08.980 with the latest moves of Elon Musk and the Groyper thing.

00:42:12.040 It's funny that we're talking about the Jews in this way, too, as well, because they'll

00:42:16.400 characterize you as, be like, this guy's a crypto Jew.

00:42:19.300 He has no criticisms for them.

00:42:20.940 It's like, no, he's got accurate criticisms, but they're not taken to an extreme where he

00:42:25.360 does nothing.

00:42:26.180 I don't externalize blame.

00:42:28.300 Right.

00:42:29.080 Yeah, that's what's really important.

00:42:31.780 That's why I'm like, wow, this white guy is such a Jew.

00:42:34.540 I'm like, how does that make, you know what I'm like?

00:42:36.220 Because it's a behavior.

00:42:37.480 It's like the hard end.

00:42:38.320 You know, it's you're a victim, like a white guy stealing copper for meth and being like,

00:42:43.120 oh, I had to.

00:42:43.960 My mom made pornos, you know, like that's end behavior.

00:42:47.440 Yes.

00:42:47.860 Because you're like a victim.

00:42:49.720 So you get to harm people and take whatever you want.

00:42:52.880 And so, yeah, like my shit always come like not always, but a lot of it comes true because

00:42:57.060 the truth doesn't change.

00:42:58.300 Like people get stuck in these little loops and and I'm looking at this behavior and then

00:43:04.100 they're calling me a Jew because I'm telling them if they don't want to be replaced to

00:43:07.440 have kids, you know, I'm like a six foot eight blue eyed Jew that is on the ADL is like

00:43:13.560 watch list.

00:43:14.240 Like, are you fucking crazy?

00:43:16.160 And they are, you know, like Nick Fuentes, his whole thing like that, that tweet that

00:43:20.860 went so viral, your body, my choice.

00:43:23.380 I, I would have helped the guy out more, but he digs his own ditches.

00:43:27.820 You know, I'm like the joke is he's a queen.

00:43:31.820 Like that's the whole, you're like your body, my joke from like the fruitiest dip shit on

00:43:37.660 the, I'm like, that's like if Liberace said your body, my choice to a bunch of women, it's

00:43:42.220 fucking hilarious.

00:43:43.440 I'm like, he doesn't have any interest in your body.

00:43:46.540 He wants to do with a dick with cat ears.

00:43:49.060 I'm like, it's fucking hilarious.

00:43:51.640 Like that is fucking crazy.

00:43:53.760 You know, you know where you see it on the micro is like, um, this is something that I

00:43:58.780 see a lot and it's so fundamentally retarded.

00:44:02.300 It's like a guy who was raised in a divorce family, right?

00:44:07.560 No, no dad around kind of a deal.

00:44:09.360 And they go, um, you know, I never had a good example of like a relationship working out.

00:44:15.620 And that's why I cheat and I'm not into monogamy and I treat my, my girls like, you know, whatever

00:44:20.720 the case may be.

00:44:21.380 And it's like, um, this, this thing that happened to you previously leaning on it to justify your

00:44:28.120 shit behavior and then twisting it so that you're actually a victim.

00:44:31.640 So stop looking at me.

00:44:32.820 Like I'm the one that did something wrong.

00:44:34.260 I'm a victim.

00:44:35.060 When I grew up, nobody gave me a good example on how to do X, Y, and Z.

00:44:38.760 Right.

00:44:39.020 And I, I go, I, I grew up without, uh, you know, my dad in the picture, I am 10% black

00:44:44.320 and, and I, I never looked at that and went like, Oh, um, because of that, I'm never going

00:44:50.200 to have a successful relationship in my life.

00:44:52.080 Right.

00:44:52.480 Like I'm married now and we're raising our son that are great dads.

00:44:56.220 Like, it's not about the skin, you know, they're crushing it.

00:44:58.780 They have no victim.

00:44:59.780 Some of them are more into mustache guy than anyone I know.

00:45:02.760 It's hilarious.

00:45:05.160 I just, I feel like that is, like I said, it's the micro of a much bigger thing.

00:45:09.860 Like it is funny to watch then, um, off the back of us complaining about people leveraging

00:45:15.160 victimhood mentality for, for so many years, right.

00:45:17.860 Whether it's black people or Jewish people or whatever the case may be.

00:45:20.320 And then to turn around and watch white dudes do it to like the tune of thousands.

00:45:24.760 It becomes an overwhelming force on Twitter where everything is the fault of the Jew.

00:45:30.180 Dude.

00:45:30.620 It's exactly what happened.

00:45:32.000 And I'm like, we're white.

00:45:33.180 We're better than this.

00:45:36.400 That's kind of the point, right?

00:45:37.560 No, but seriously, it's like, it's fascinating to watch.

00:45:41.040 It's just about externalizing the onus of responsibility.

00:45:43.640 A great way to tell what someone is, is ask them, how do you get a cold?

00:45:48.700 And they're like, well, you know, if I don't get enough sleep, I don't drink enough vitamin

00:45:52.280 C versus like, well, when I'm around kids, they don't wash their hands.

00:45:55.780 You know, it's always like, who did this to you?

00:45:58.520 And then I will explain what happens.

00:46:01.000 And people are like, get over it.

00:46:02.840 When I'm not allowed on Airbnb, I can't rent out a house.

00:46:06.140 I can't be on PayPal.

00:46:06.960 I was universally panned from all theaters, even ones I would rent with my own money.

00:46:11.600 And I'm like, I'm not doing victim shit.

00:46:14.540 Kind of like what happened with you, with the, with the blacks, where it's like, I'm

00:46:18.320 not doing what you guys are doing.

00:46:20.000 I'm telling the story from a position of authority.

00:46:22.540 I'm like, I'm not a victim.

00:46:24.920 I learned how the system works and now I'm doing really good.

00:46:28.320 Oh, now you're bragging much.

00:46:29.980 I'm like, no.

00:46:31.420 Oh yeah.

00:46:32.360 Yeah.

00:46:32.780 I'm bragging.

00:46:33.500 Yeah.

00:46:33.740 I am bragging.

00:46:34.140 I'm like, I know.

00:46:34.700 I'm like, I don't, you think I want to be sitting around some fucking comedy, like some with

00:46:39.940 like Burt, like fat fuck Burt Kreischer being like, Oh, I just sold out a stadium and drank.

00:46:45.080 I'm like, I'm like, that to me is like a living hell.

00:46:48.100 So they're like, yeah, but look at all that money.

00:46:49.820 I'm like, look at their eyes, man.

00:46:51.600 I used to, I know these guys, like they went to a position where now they're like fucking

00:46:57.600 miserable.

00:46:58.060 Cause there's no end to narcissistic supply.

00:47:00.540 Like you get, it's like the heat, uh, hedonic treadmill when you're promiscuous, you're

00:47:04.540 never just like, uh, meet, you know, I, I got that one thing I like, I'm good.

00:47:10.140 You just keep escalating until you're like a homo, you know, I just, I don't know.

00:47:17.240 It's, it's, it's been a weird thing watching this narrative develop because over time, it

00:47:22.860 seems like everybody, especially on Twitter, I know we're dealing with like Elon Musk banning

00:47:26.540 all the Gripers and the whole Nick Fuentes thing, but it feels like everybody kind of

00:47:29.860 split into, into camps and it kind of became like, uh, I don't know, like there's the camp

00:47:35.460 of the Jew blamer.

00:47:36.360 And then there's the, the, the camp of like the white man blamer.

00:47:40.060 And then what I find is that if you stand in the middle and you go like, nah, these things

00:47:44.120 are nuanced and you have to take some self-responsibility, both sides accuse you of being on the other

00:47:49.220 side.

00:47:49.980 It's like a non, you end up winning at life.

00:47:52.660 Yes.

00:47:53.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:47:53.440 It's a non-winning battle socially in this interaction.

00:47:56.540 You're not going to win.

00:47:57.520 You're not going to have nuance.

00:47:58.320 You're not going to have a conversation.

00:47:59.160 You're not going to win.

00:48:00.100 You're not going to, you're not, yeah, you're not going to.

00:48:02.620 Yeah.

00:48:02.940 Okay.

00:48:03.420 But you become the owner of the stadium while the blacks run full speed at each other for

00:48:07.720 Kit Kat bars.

00:48:09.100 You know what I mean?

00:48:09.420 It's like, yes, you can't win the football game as the owner of the stadium.

00:48:13.660 Sure.

00:48:14.700 But like that thing they're doing doesn't ever win.

00:48:18.120 Like you never win.

00:48:19.680 Yeah.

00:48:20.140 It's like, you're like, oh, it's those guys.

00:48:22.880 It's these guys.

00:48:23.680 It's like, no, you can call out bad behavior.

00:48:26.460 You can call out, you know, that higher up the pyramid, people get more demonic and chill

00:48:31.880 out.

00:48:32.080 Totally.

00:48:32.540 But at the end of the day, what is your interaction with it?

00:48:36.260 You know, like what's your interaction with it?

00:48:38.020 And that's where you get real power.

00:48:39.640 And it's funny.

00:48:40.600 Like I just did Jake Shields.

00:48:41.900 I love Jake Shields and his, um, I don't know if it's like his producer guy or one of the

00:48:46.480 guys that works with him.

00:48:47.380 We ended up hanging and having a great time.

00:48:49.380 He was like, Hey man, I came at you like real hard on Twitter.

00:48:53.520 And I'm like, I'm like, I was all good, dude.

00:48:55.560 And he's like, said his name.

00:48:56.640 And I didn't even recognize it, but apparently he has like a really big following and went

00:49:01.020 hard at me.

00:49:02.240 And I'm like, bro, I don't care.

00:49:04.400 And in real life, it was nothing.

00:49:06.660 It was like, he was fine to be around.

00:49:09.460 I didn't give a shit.

00:49:10.540 I'm like, I don't care, man.

00:49:12.500 It's you do what you do.

00:49:13.700 I'm like, come at my ability to bank or like my family or something.

00:49:18.420 Like there's no going back from that.

00:49:20.060 But like, if you're just calling me a fat gay Jew, I'm like that I'm not.

00:49:25.060 So like, I don't care.

00:49:27.420 You know, in a sense though, I know who he is.

00:49:30.260 And I like, he's one of them that I felt like that, that bunch, the group, the Groyper bunch

00:49:35.120 is an interesting group because there's a lot of them that I'd really do like.

00:49:39.440 And then, uh, there's a lot of them that have like tried to dox me.

00:49:43.080 They have, uh, tried to fuck with my, you know, I use my account to push my, my clothing

00:49:48.640 brand to push my podcast.

00:49:49.980 It's like, I make money doing this.

00:49:51.800 So in a sense, when you do fuck with my shit, you are fucking with my money and you're trying

00:49:55.560 to fuck with my kids a little bit.

00:49:56.980 I don't like that.

00:49:58.520 So now when, uh, you know, Elon banned, like he just, I don't know, he took away their blue

00:50:04.540 check and he banned a couple of these guys.

00:50:05.960 And I'm kind of like, you want me to stick up for you now?

00:50:10.280 Like, what do you want me to do?

00:50:12.200 Alex Jones seems like the same thing.

00:50:14.560 And, and, you know, I like Jake Shields too, but it's like, like, is he supposed to put

00:50:18.680 out his neck after, I don't know.

00:50:20.320 I don't know what they did to, if they did anything to Alex Jones, but for me, I know

00:50:22.800 that they fuck with me and I'm just kind of like, yo, that sucks.

00:50:25.700 But like, you know, what am I, that's why when they turn on you, it's a good thing.

00:50:29.600 I'm like, no one could ever accuse me of associating with a griper.

00:50:33.540 You know, when they're like griper war, I'm like, do it please.

00:50:36.800 So that when you guys get fucking, you know, seen for what you are, there will be

00:50:41.720 no, you know, uh, association with me and the gripers.

00:50:46.420 Those guys are, yeah, it's like, like as individuals, some of them are really cool, but the identity

00:50:52.340 is victim consciousness and it's horrifying.

00:50:55.220 You know, it's just horrifying.

00:50:56.620 Like what, what they do.

00:50:57.900 And I'm like, it's not even funny.

00:50:59.760 Like, uh, uh, Fuentes can be funny.

00:51:02.880 That's why I was always framing them as a comedian.

00:51:05.000 I'm like, if you view that guy as a comedian, he's a funny comedian.

00:51:08.360 If you view him as like the return of white Christ, America church King.

00:51:13.120 But I'm like, he's, that's insane.

00:51:15.320 Like that guy, that guy is like, like a shitty little queen, you know, allegedly, you know,

00:51:22.380 it's, um, we, we talked about before how it's like a fundamental mistake to, to come at these

00:51:27.740 things from a victimhood mentality.

00:51:29.720 And it's like, um, you know, Jocko Willink, it's not somebody that I, uh, really absorb

00:51:37.020 a lot of his content, but he has that concept.

00:51:39.080 I forget what it's called.

00:51:40.140 I'm a butcher.

00:51:40.980 Well, no, not that one.

00:51:42.560 It's the one where it's like, uh, um, something about accountability.

00:51:45.900 I forget what it is.

00:51:46.920 Yeah.

00:51:47.000 It's good.

00:51:47.540 It's good.

00:51:47.820 Um, and, and so the, the basic idea of that is if you are not, uh, responsible to any degree

00:51:56.740 for your own suffering, then you are not capable of rectifying it, or at least it's an immeasurable,

00:52:02.960 um, uh, you know, thing to try to overcome.

00:52:06.200 But if you practice this like ultimate responsibility, take self accountability for as much as humanly

00:52:12.260 possible.

00:52:12.740 It's a way of like psychologically tricking yourself.

00:52:15.360 Sure.

00:52:15.520 There are things pitted against you.

00:52:16.980 Uh, and there are machines that are trying to take you down.

00:52:19.300 There are institutions that are, you know, to the detriment of the American public.

00:52:22.620 But if you take on, uh, as much responsibility as humanly possible for your own suffering,

00:52:28.700 essentially what you're saying is I also have the ability to rectify my own suffering, bro.

00:52:33.280 It's the ultimate power.

00:52:35.260 That's why people, they're like, you're victim blaming.

00:52:37.420 I'm like, you're creating slaves.

00:52:38.800 That's why my offer of buying people is really the best they're going to do at this point.

00:52:44.200 Cause it's like, if you're not responsible for your own problems, then you aren't, you

00:52:49.200 don't have free will.

00:52:50.080 Like you're now owned and I will make you a modest offer.

00:52:55.580 And that's a reasonable one.

00:52:57.120 The lack of responsibility also.

00:52:59.560 So it kind of leads to, um, what we were talking about maybe like last week or so with

00:53:05.260 the Sam Hyde thing, but the lack of responsibility from these people or lack of accountability

00:53:09.760 then doesn't allow people to accurately criticize Elon Musk for basic.

00:53:15.600 Cause what he's doing is kind of like, listen, it's shady.

00:53:17.860 It's kind of shady on his, no one's going to Mars.

00:53:20.920 The guy's a fucking super shady guy.

00:53:23.120 Like I've never trusted.

00:53:24.300 Remember when people used to come at me when I would make fun at Elon Musk, it's like,

00:53:28.200 have some respect for the King.

00:53:30.420 He's letting you back.

00:53:31.600 He's letting you back on Twitter when you were a nothing, you were wandering the wilderness

00:53:36.420 begging with your cup on bitch shoot and Elon sent his angels down.

00:53:42.260 And I'm like, shut the fuck up.

00:53:43.940 The guy wants to put a chip in your brain and he flies rockets backwards.

00:53:48.000 He's literally retarded.

00:53:49.420 Yeah.

00:53:50.260 And people are like, this leads to my tweet though.

00:53:52.440 Cause I did, you, you took a, I guess you took, uh, some notice to what I said.

00:53:57.760 I called him the King and you said, he's not a fucking King.

00:54:00.580 I disagree.

00:54:01.840 He is.

00:54:02.740 He clearly is.

00:54:03.920 He clearly is the King of Twitter.

00:54:05.740 He owns Twitter.

00:54:07.460 He is acting.

00:54:08.280 I'll give you that valid archetype.

00:54:10.640 Right.

00:54:10.880 Okay.

00:54:11.960 He's swinging this hammer.

00:54:13.240 He's cutting people's heads off.

00:54:14.260 Like that's how a fucking King acts in his castle.

00:54:16.440 And I kind of respect it.

00:54:17.960 I'm people need to be very suspicious of what he's doing.

00:54:21.120 Um, then I called Sam Hyde, who is acting in this case as the jester with what he did.

00:54:27.160 I just want to get your thoughts on this video because like we were going back and forth on,

00:54:30.980 uh, you know, in the comments, but I didn't really, uh, I get a good understanding of what

00:54:35.960 you're like, what the exception you took with, uh, his video was.

00:54:40.020 So I actually retweeted his video and said, it was a great bit about, um, uh, not letting

00:54:47.580 China get any of our precious Indians.

00:54:49.500 Like my original reaction to Sam Hyde's video was positive.

00:54:52.880 I was like, that's a good bit.

00:54:54.740 And I highlighted the good bit.

00:54:55.780 And then I see everybody like, uh, who's that gab guy?

00:54:59.500 The guy who owns gab.

00:55:01.140 Oh, like all those guys.

00:55:02.300 It's like never before is a justice stood up to a King like this.

00:55:06.440 I'm like, what the fuck?

00:55:08.560 And I see your archetype.

00:55:10.040 It's like, that's what it's supposed to happen.

00:55:11.900 This is.

00:55:12.840 Yeah.

00:55:13.280 But it's this degree.

00:55:14.360 I was like the Indian government asked Elon Musk to arrest me over a year ago for way

00:55:20.460 better jokes than what you, where was everybody then?

00:55:23.860 Everyone was like, like secretly like, wow, that Pajit joke is pretty funny.

00:55:27.460 You just did.

00:55:28.500 Meanwhile, Sam Hyde does it over a year later with the jokes were six.

00:55:33.400 I sent you that, uh, that AI movie thing we did.

00:55:37.200 I mean, think about how much funnier that is than Sam Hyde's thing.

00:55:40.220 Like, uh, uh, Brown is the new black, like that thing about coming home to meet dad, like

00:55:44.320 way better, but that's not, that's not Sam's fault, right?

00:55:49.500 That's like the way that it was received.

00:55:51.800 Sam's face is his fault.

00:55:53.240 Cause I believe in, uh, what's it called?

00:55:56.080 Where behavior affects, uh, your face is the agnomy is the agnomy.

00:55:59.600 Yeah.

00:56:00.080 You can't do it with the Jews and not Sam Hyde.

00:56:02.300 I mean, that fizzy agnomy looks like it's just pure pornography.

00:56:06.260 He's a tough one.

00:56:07.440 Like, like, cause up close, I remember seeing him up close.

00:56:09.740 I'm like, he's not like particularly ugly, but he does a thing.

00:56:12.580 Like he'll have his hair fucked up, like weird and glasses.

00:56:16.800 And he doesn't look ugly.

00:56:18.800 Yes.

00:56:19.160 And I kind of have some reason why me making fun of him for being ugly is not, I'm

00:56:23.260 like, look at him.

00:56:24.660 He's intentionally trying to look hideous.

00:56:28.160 It makes me like more.

00:56:29.600 It makes me like, he wants to look like you can tell by his hair and how he's

00:56:33.680 dressing and everything.

00:56:34.600 He wants to look like heinous.

00:56:37.760 Yeah.

00:56:38.340 It's a very advanced, um, artist in a lot of ways.

00:56:43.920 Like that's when I was just pointing out how everyone was S-ing his D that's it.

00:56:48.380 It wasn't, that wasn't me making like attacking Sam.

00:56:51.340 I like, I just did that with, uh, Sean Ryan and Candace Owens.

00:56:55.040 Like now they're, they're referencing the FBI as the arbiter of truth.

00:56:58.060 They're like, the FBI just confirmed we're right.

00:57:00.020 And I'm like, Oh, so the FBI is, is good when you want them to be good.

00:57:03.760 Like, and then people are like, Oh, what, what's your beef with Sean Ryan?

00:57:07.080 I'm like, are you guys all fucking dumb?

00:57:10.260 I'm like, I'm like the point I just made is the FBI is deep state liars taking down America

00:57:15.960 until they say something you like.

00:57:17.740 And now they just proved you right.

00:57:19.120 That's the whole point I'm making.

00:57:20.640 I'm like, with the Sam Hyde thing, I'm like, how is this special?

00:57:24.440 I did three weeks of just Indian jokes when no one knew what, and then people are like,

00:57:31.520 Oh, what's up with your ego?

00:57:32.620 I'm like, you can look at Google trends.

00:57:35.660 Like I introduced Pajit to Twitter.

00:57:38.900 It was, it existed.

00:57:41.000 I didn't make it up, but how come not one of these people ever said, I've never before

00:57:46.320 seen a jester stand before it came and said the truth.

00:57:49.520 I'm like, this is so fucking stupid.

00:57:51.540 It reeks of idol worship.

00:57:52.640 And then I'm like, so I'm always trying to do, uh, like if people do that about me,

00:57:57.240 I feel uncomfortable.

00:57:58.320 And they're like, you're here to lead us.

00:58:00.720 You're, you know, I'm like, no, no, no.

00:58:03.280 Oh yeah.

00:58:03.620 You should see it.

00:58:04.260 Oh, and the, the, the, a lot of the fan base has started calling me master, not at all

00:58:09.300 because they respect me, but because they know it makes me look like a huge asshole and

00:58:12.860 it's going to come and bite me in the ass one day.

00:58:14.540 And to their credit, it's very funny, uh, but it's not fucking good.

00:58:18.840 I understand why you could, why you would translate my tweet as being like worshipy,

00:58:23.580 but it was more, um, it was more like an attack.

00:58:27.800 Like how my, how I always tweet, I'm kind of tweeting at comedians that I know will follow

00:58:32.640 me.

00:58:32.960 And this is not you and, and, and your, your best friend, Sam Tripoli, and probably like

00:58:38.580 two other comedians out there.

00:58:40.160 Uh, I'm not tweeting this at you.

00:58:42.320 I'm tweeting this at these other guys that should have been like, there's no other comedian

00:58:47.100 doing what Sam and then, so my logical brain is like, I need four cameras because I've obviously

00:58:54.140 done all of this a thousand times.

00:58:56.620 So yeah, he must be referring to four camera shoots for a monologue where you have an ugly

00:59:02.440 face talking about Indians because that other than that, I mean, there's no way he forgot

00:59:08.680 that I've already done.

00:59:10.080 Like there's no comedian in the realm that stand up.

00:59:13.620 If you have the ball, Sam high does.

00:59:15.680 I'm like, I'm on a farm in Idaho.

00:59:19.180 Like you're one of the only people I'm not talking to in band.

00:59:23.740 Now, if, if other comedians did see this, like that comment and those comments specifically,

00:59:28.780 like how did they feel that you shouldn't feel any sort of way because everybody knows

00:59:33.080 your track record.

00:59:34.160 We're not talking about you.

00:59:35.760 I was just busting your balls.

00:59:36.820 Like I was never like, Oh, I was just like, I was literally laughing when I wrote it.

00:59:41.780 Well, let me ask you, though.

00:59:43.020 The four camera shoot bit was making me laugh so hard where it's like, do I need four cameras?

00:59:47.860 Let me ask you though, like the comedians that were, that you were like flying in their

00:59:52.120 circle when they see this tweet, because it did go viral and they saw what he did there

00:59:56.860 and he's a comedian.

00:59:57.680 He does stand up.

00:59:58.440 He's on legion of skanks with these guys.

00:59:59.980 They feel nothing.

01:00:00.640 They feel no shame at all.

01:00:01.780 They think he's stupid for not making more money with Bud Light.

01:00:04.420 Like they're in a different game.

01:00:07.420 They're like, yeah, like if they see you position yourself to get a corporate deal or you cozy

01:00:13.160 up to a, someone higher up in the food chain, they're like, Oh, it must be nice.

01:00:17.160 You do something artistically brilliant.

01:00:19.460 They're like, you didn't monetize it properly.

01:00:22.420 They don't feel shit.

01:00:23.440 They're not artists.

01:00:24.880 They're business guys.

01:00:26.340 Like they're just, they're, they're social engineers that like, they think you're like

01:00:31.880 back in the day when they were saying I was crazy, I thought they were lying and now I

01:00:36.200 don't.

01:00:36.720 In their world, what I was doing was crazy.

01:00:38.800 I was repped at CAA.

01:00:39.960 I was repped at Prince of auto young.

01:00:41.440 I just hosted an award show where I'm introducing Leonardo DiCaprio.

01:00:44.660 I just sold a book, uh, to one of the biggest publishers there that ended up like the contract

01:00:49.880 got all fucked up because of what I was saying on Twitter and all that.

01:00:52.120 And they're like, you're going crazy.

01:00:54.180 And I'm like, I, cause I was assuming we were all artists.

01:00:58.360 I'm like, so what did I say?

01:00:59.760 That wasn't hilarious.

01:01:01.080 And they're like, the words you're saying will get you less green tokens.

01:01:06.560 I'm like, you're in a black mirror episode.

01:01:09.220 I'm in reality.

01:01:10.460 Okay.

01:01:10.900 So to you, what I'm doing is crazy.

01:01:14.380 Cause we're, and I, for years I was like, I had so much more venom against mainstream comics.

01:01:20.040 And you remember when I used to have more of a chip on my shoulder where I was like, I

01:01:23.860 was almost like mad at them.

01:01:25.220 It's cause I thought we were in the same world and I'm like, Oh no, you guys have every right

01:01:30.240 to go make your tokens.

01:01:31.500 Have you not seen what that, what that, how that game ends?

01:01:34.900 But I don't think they do.

01:01:36.160 I'll, I'll argue that because I was, I was looking up the definition of like the King archetype

01:01:41.160 and the jester archetype and they're playing the jester.

01:01:43.960 That is their job title.

01:01:45.340 Who's day though?

01:01:45.900 It's like who?

01:01:47.720 Comedians.

01:01:48.220 If you're, if you're using the title comedian, if you're doing standup comedy, if you're presenting

01:01:52.780 bits, if you're trying to make people laugh for a living, your job is jester and the jester

01:01:59.060 speaks truth to the King there.

01:02:01.060 So, uh, they bring joy to others, but they use their wit to expose lies and hypocrisy.

01:02:05.960 So during COVID, tell me exactly who brought that wit and joy to the King while the world

01:02:11.900 was going nuts.

01:02:12.660 Like, let's go down the list of Netflix comedians.

01:02:15.340 Oh yeah.

01:02:16.600 None, like literally fucking none.

01:02:19.500 Right.

01:02:20.000 And so, no, they're not, they're reinforcing a social engineer shit.

01:02:24.600 They're not bringing truth to the King.

01:02:26.220 They're not saying, why would I wear a mask walking into a restaurant and then I can take

01:02:30.100 it off when I sit at the table?

01:02:32.120 Like, like they're, they're not showing like we, I was making shit.

01:02:35.960 Where it was like, what to say to people when you're not wearing a mask.

01:02:38.720 And we, we, I had all my listeners send in a funny video where it's like, you know, my

01:02:42.580 therapist says I'm not allowed to wear a mask after the incident or like they're for criminals

01:02:47.080 and perverts.

01:02:47.720 Which one are you lady?

01:02:48.500 Like all these fun, like I was doing the jester's job.

01:02:51.720 Well, they were like, this is the new normal.

01:02:55.240 And I'm like, you guys all suck.

01:02:57.240 Like they were doing fucking shows where you had to be vaccinated to go in.

01:03:00.780 I, I have a memory.

01:03:02.200 I'm not, I have a, well, I'm not fluoridated.

01:03:04.340 And I know that might be a factor.

01:03:06.160 I remember all of them that like right in front of the comedy store, right in front of

01:03:10.920 all this stuff, you must be vaccinated to go inside.

01:03:13.460 Every comedian that was fucking performing when that sign was there is part of it.

01:03:18.360 And they were not speaking truth to power and they can go fuck themselves, you know,

01:03:22.000 but I'm not mad at them.

01:03:23.740 They were like, you got to play the game, man.

01:03:25.800 You got to fucking survive out here.

01:03:27.860 It's, but that makes it a business.

01:03:29.060 It's not, they're not, you're not operating under your job title.

01:03:33.360 This is your job title.

01:03:34.480 Call yourself something different.

01:03:36.020 They're not, there's, it should be a different name then.

01:03:38.040 You know what I mean?

01:03:38.460 I mean, social engineer, social engineer, social engineer, influencer is a great name

01:03:43.160 for it.

01:03:43.620 Yeah.

01:03:43.840 Social engineer one, two, and three.

01:03:45.440 Yeah, no, a hundred percent.

01:03:48.260 My dad taught social engineering, like PhD, Northwestern, Oxford, fucking, uh, like literally

01:03:56.820 keynote speaker about this exact topic.

01:04:00.220 There is words you use to persuade mass audiences to push an agenda.

01:04:05.400 You know, he did the muckraker movement and all that stuff.

01:04:08.080 Like how you, uh, shift human behavior with broadcasting, casting, what you ask spells.

01:04:14.860 Right.

01:04:16.360 Broadcasting, like casting a spell.

01:04:18.040 It's a fact you use words.

01:04:19.440 I know like some people's dads did something and they like know that business from growing

01:04:24.640 up with them.

01:04:25.180 Right.

01:04:25.400 Like my dad was like the head of Hogwarts.

01:04:28.320 And so I know what that is.

01:04:30.880 And I'm watching comedians.

01:04:32.380 I'm like, Oh, this is the agenda.

01:04:34.160 This is what they're being told to push.

01:04:35.820 This is how they're doing it.

01:04:36.680 They're using a laugh track to show social compliance where it's like, when you hear, ha ha

01:04:41.820 ha ha.

01:04:42.280 It's like, Oh, I'm not alone.

01:04:43.780 This has been socially reaffirmed, you know, uh, word salad, the way when people do word

01:04:49.560 salad and say nonsense, the whole point of that is it creates a stressor in your mind

01:04:55.320 so that the next thing you say people latch onto, like it's saved them from stress.

01:05:00.980 Oh, cause they're desperately trying to understand and they can't exactly.

01:05:05.300 And then say something coherent and they go, Oh, there it is.

01:05:07.800 Yeah.

01:05:08.200 Like hypnotism.

01:05:09.160 You do Simon says with people.

01:05:11.580 That's why, uh, sometimes truthers are like, there's no, the shoe bomber was bullshit.

01:05:16.920 There's no bombs in the shoes.

01:05:18.380 You got to take your shoes off at the airport.

01:05:20.140 I'm like, don't you know why though?

01:05:21.680 You haven't figured it out.

01:05:22.440 I'm like, Simon says, take off your belt.

01:05:24.720 Simon says, take off your shoes.

01:05:26.040 Simon says, hold up your hands.

01:05:27.240 At that point, you're now hypnotized so that you'll behave in a tube in the sky.

01:05:32.880 Yes.

01:05:33.300 The more stupid, the better.

01:05:35.980 It's the same with like, it's like if you, if you just get someone on a compliance row,

01:05:41.500 uh, on a compliance line, literally touch your nose.

01:05:45.840 Simon says, touch your ears.

01:05:46.680 So the children are competing to comply with Simon and no one's asking who Simon is.

01:05:52.200 Simon says, hop on one foot.

01:05:53.680 Simon says, you have to wear a mask.

01:05:55.440 You don't have to wear a mask if you have one vaccine.

01:05:57.380 Simon says, you can go on a cruise ship if you have two vaccines, but you're under the

01:06:02.460 age of 61.

01:06:03.340 Simon says, and the more people do that shit, the more they're, they're, they're hypnotized.

01:06:08.780 They're in a state of theta state, which is the state of child.

01:06:11.620 You're like a child that feels safe around an adult.

01:06:15.020 And at that point you give up your free will.

01:06:17.260 And that's, that's the way it all works.

01:06:19.080 And I'm like, same with flicker rates on TV and same with like, um, all kinds of shit.

01:06:24.440 And that's fine.

01:06:25.160 Like, I'm not against this shit.

01:06:27.100 I'm just like, cause after I, I, I tried to help people with some of this knowledge and

01:06:32.220 they called me like a gay fat Jew.

01:06:33.940 I'm like, Simon says, like, I'm, I get it.

01:06:37.100 I'm like, yeah, somebody has to do something with these masses.

01:06:40.040 Like, I'm not even like the masons and shit that everyone freaks out at some of, I've talked

01:06:45.140 to some of them and they're just like, dude, what the hell do you got any ideas?

01:06:48.900 Like, how do you fucking handle all this?

01:06:50.740 You know, how do you manage, how do you manage the fallen world?

01:06:54.060 You know, you got this world and you manage it and you can't tell them the truth or they

01:06:59.240 fucking go crazy and burn their dicks off.

01:07:01.420 Like if you have a victim consciousness man that has mental illness of like narcissistic

01:07:07.140 personality disorder and they're a pervert, you know, they just feed them with porn.

01:07:12.200 They feed them with ego reinforcement.

01:07:13.900 They give them fluoride and it's like that lowers crime that lowers that, you know, the

01:07:18.360 train still work, the fucking water still turns down and you turn the, and that's dude, it's

01:07:23.180 true.

01:07:23.660 It's like, they're not wrong.

01:07:25.960 So we get to do the other shit.

01:07:29.140 Imagine if our lives, we had to just wade through just masses of people that weren't socially

01:07:35.320 conditioned that inside they're like really fucked up.

01:07:38.820 Like that would be a very dangerous world.

01:07:40.780 I, you know, you're talking about all this social engineering and, um, I think it's interesting

01:07:46.500 because it does plug into this previous conversation we're having about like Twitter and shit like

01:07:49.740 that.

01:07:49.960 And it's like, I was going to ask you why you think that it is that you can talk about

01:07:54.680 a thing and it's like, it's received, but it's received by the people that are already

01:07:58.560 around you.

01:08:00.020 Um, whereas somebody else goes and does it and it's, you know, profound and it's a four

01:08:04.720 camera shot.

01:08:05.320 But it's, but even beyond that though, top, it's like, we're looking at Twitter and, and

01:08:11.440 so much of the dangerous conversations that you used to have yourself, Owen are now being

01:08:15.220 had.

01:08:15.460 And you've, you've graduated beyond that.

01:08:17.260 You've seen things from a different perspective.

01:08:18.760 You're now outside of it all along, but it's happening and it doesn't feel organic.

01:08:25.880 It feels like there were these, you know, we have these moments, right?

01:08:28.980 Like, like top lobster posting something about Mel Gibson or, or, uh, Joe Biden, which way

01:08:34.480 Western man, you could drink Adrena Chrome or you can, uh, hate the J's and Elon responds

01:08:39.760 to that.

01:08:40.300 And it almost feels like this catalyst moment.

01:08:42.360 Not that it's like, uh, um, how do I put this?

01:08:45.840 It's almost feels like Elon said, it's okay to talk about this.

01:08:48.660 And that sort of thing continuously happened.

01:08:51.240 It's like, Elon says, Hey, it's okay to talk about this.

01:08:54.040 Barry Stanton comes along this like anonymous account that just drags the, the, the Indians

01:08:58.800 all over Twitter to the tune of like, you know, virality that nobody's ever seen before.

01:09:03.360 And then he disappears.

01:09:04.560 And now all of a sudden we're having Vivek, um, and the whole thing gets rehashed, right?

01:09:08.820 Vivek saying all your nostalgic shit is trash.

01:09:10.900 That's why Americans are bad.

01:09:12.040 And he's not even really wrong, but I mean, it's, it's, it's like the person time for that

01:09:16.720 conversation to hit Twitter.

01:09:18.320 That guy can't say it though.

01:09:19.880 Like if, if Owen said, if somebody else said it, you could say with a white face, if you

01:09:23.560 say it's me with a brown face, fuck you, man.

01:09:25.880 Don't talk to me.

01:09:26.300 That's what my thing is.

01:09:26.840 Like it doesn't, none of it feels organic to me.

01:09:28.700 It all feels like social engineering, social engineering fact.

01:09:32.260 That's like, there's my issue.

01:09:34.380 It was always timing.

01:09:35.580 I was always so early that it's almost like I'm, I'm telling the movie before it gets there.

01:09:41.060 And that's how I've kind of gotten past all this and I don't have resentment or anything.

01:09:44.880 And I've taken responsibility for what I've done is, um, is that where it's like, they're,

01:09:49.900 they're, they're, they're putting on a play and I'm ruining the play and fine.

01:09:53.800 You know, as long as I'm allowed to make my choices, I don't view it as tyranny where

01:09:58.720 if I wasn't allowed to live on a farm or like have homeschool kids, then you would see me

01:10:03.440 being a little more intense.

01:10:04.660 But like, as long as you're allowed to choose what you want, that's what they're putting on

01:10:11.320 a play for people that kind of need to play.

01:10:13.100 Like there's a lot of people that can't fathom the concept that red and blue are funded by

01:10:17.860 the same people.

01:10:18.520 Like just that little step they're, they're like, like, you know, it's like, so I I'm,

01:10:25.320 I'm taking some, um, I've just taken more like, uh, I feel for those people.

01:10:30.540 Like, I don't want to, I don't want to cause them pain.

01:10:32.320 So I just kind of do it for the people that, that like me and stuff.

01:10:36.260 And yeah, as far as like social engineering, it's all about keeping authority.

01:10:40.980 So the more you have a set of rules outside of someone's will, the harder it is to have,

01:10:47.440 um, control the whole, uh, hypnotism with this is just to get people to think, what does

01:10:53.400 Elon want?

01:10:55.060 That's it.

01:10:55.820 That's all it is.

01:10:56.560 It, it can be Jews, Catholics, Quakers, fucking left-handed people.

01:11:00.760 It doesn't matter the identity.

01:11:02.480 It's just the idea of like, what is that guy going to allow?

01:11:07.400 And once you get in that point, it's called authoritative speaking, authoritative

01:11:10.820 speaking.

01:11:11.220 It's like, if instead of, um, you're not asking, you're asking a question with an assumption

01:11:17.640 in the question, like, when did you know you were gay?

01:11:20.860 Right?

01:11:21.380 Like this, that means you're gay.

01:11:22.780 And if you answer in any way, you've, you've, uh, agreed to my premise.

01:11:28.560 And so once people start thinking like that, where Elon Musk is in charge of free speech,

01:11:34.120 that's the lie, right?

01:11:35.520 So that's the, that's, that's the poison.

01:11:38.260 And I saw poison in what Sam Hyde did.

01:11:40.320 And I can explain that to, um, where white men don't have enough money to have children.

01:11:45.440 That was like the, the massive poison in that whole four camera shoot.

01:11:49.560 He did because that gives authority to a central bank that the central bank is in control of

01:11:55.460 your demographic, uh, prosperity.

01:11:58.160 So if, uh, a little printing press makes more green squares, you can have a child.

01:12:02.840 And until they change, you now have an excuse to be a victim.

01:12:06.440 It's, it's really fucking dark.

01:12:08.720 And I, I could say, I, I see, you know, be careful, uh, be careful of, uh, today's episode

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01:13:09.680 Uh, you know, wisdom, they say, you know, like unearned wisdom or all that, because like

01:13:13.320 when you know, shit, sometimes if you don't have an ability to handle it and live a disciplined

01:13:17.740 life, it can get fucking really intense when you see people like, uh, Oh, Elon just took

01:13:23.140 away free speech.

01:13:23.960 I mean, part of this op, I think is taking away blue check marks on a private social media

01:13:30.200 app is a threat to the first amendment.

01:13:33.280 That means Elon Musk is above the United States constitution.

01:13:36.580 And that is the psychological operation.

01:13:39.680 Yeah.

01:13:39.780 It's the illusion of he has control over your first amendment, right?

01:13:43.640 Right.

01:13:43.860 I use a post office and that's why that shit doesn't go viral where I'm like, every single

01:13:49.200 time I was banned, people could write me letters and I could write them letters about anything

01:13:53.220 we want.

01:13:54.420 It's right here.

01:13:55.440 The, the bones of America are all fully functioning and they're awesome.

01:13:59.500 We are now in so many constructs that we have a South African fucking retard with a trans

01:14:05.440 kid.

01:14:05.920 And he probably has chopped his own dick off, you know, it's like, we're now going to appeal

01:14:11.160 to a foreign man about what our first amendment rights are based on a fucking app, you know,

01:14:18.620 with a check project bluebird, you know what I mean?

01:14:21.740 It's like mockingbird or whatever.

01:14:23.480 It's like, that's, that's the app.

01:14:25.500 And listen, you either fall for it or you don't.

01:14:27.740 And it's all because people can get afraid where they're like, Oh, people are falling

01:14:32.500 for it.

01:14:32.820 We're fucked.

01:14:33.260 I'm like, no, dude, this world, you have a direct relation, not to get like spiritually

01:14:37.940 whatever, but like you have a direct relationship to God.

01:14:40.500 In my opinion, it's, it's on you every fucking step of the way.

01:14:44.120 So what someone, what a griper does, they're only doing it to themselves.

01:14:47.420 Like when they're doing that shit, it's just like, just wait, you'll see the fruit of that.

01:14:52.420 You'll see where that goes.

01:14:53.460 You know, I do feel like he's, um, he is kind of a, uh, like a clown character.

01:14:59.220 Like he's an actor.

01:14:59.940 Like they put him in this position only because the, the time doesn't make sense.

01:15:03.800 Like how much time do you have in a day that you could be this guy who is CEO of nine companies,

01:15:09.260 dude, what?

01:15:09.920 And you're also like, uh, uh, ranked number one or number two in Diablo, which like, look,

01:15:14.520 I don't play a whole lot of video games anymore.

01:15:16.280 But when I did, like, it's not fucking easy to do that.

01:15:18.700 That's like, you need teenagers dedicating, um, obscene amounts of time till 4am every day,

01:15:25.600 you know, drinking Red Bull that they're the ones that end up first place in any kind of

01:15:29.880 big game like that.

01:15:30.920 So how does this guy have the time to do any of these things?

01:15:33.120 I don't, I don't, I just don't believe it at all.

01:15:35.300 And then, you know, you watch this thing.

01:15:36.980 I'd love to get your thoughts on this.

01:15:38.300 Oh, and what do you, when you see this, um, he's, he's spiraling, he's banning people.

01:15:44.980 He's also hanging out with Trump.

01:15:46.660 And then the next morning, his cyber truck is blown up outside of Trump towers.

01:15:51.260 And you get this iconic image of like Trump and it's pristine and it's golden.

01:15:54.880 And then the flaming cyber truck.

01:15:56.540 And it's almost indicative of what happened the night before where he's, you know, spiraling

01:16:01.320 and, and Donald Trump is, you know, making the rounds.

01:16:03.860 They're both hanging out.

01:16:05.100 There it is.

01:16:05.660 Go, uh, get your PSYOP season shirt.

01:16:07.320 But I, I look at that and I go, that doesn't feel real.

01:16:11.460 It doesn't feel, I'm sorry.

01:16:12.760 Like I'm, I know I'm retarded and, and maybe I give more, um, credibility to like the theater.

01:16:19.740 Maybe I, maybe I think the theater extends further than it actually does.

01:16:23.560 But that feels like, no, you're right.

01:16:26.440 So I mean, I don't have the answer of how that happened, but yeah, they're doing, they're

01:16:32.460 running archetypes.

01:16:33.360 And it's like, I want to hear my conspiracy theory or my gravy that I don't, I think people

01:16:38.320 are going to think is nuts.

01:16:39.480 I don't think any of it is, is real.

01:16:42.120 Like I think Zuckerberg and Elon are both actors and that like, um, you know, the DARPA,

01:16:48.720 the, the intelligence world came up with a brilliant strategy to get everyone to submit

01:16:53.520 all of their information.

01:16:54.480 You know, like Facebook, uh, was it, did it launch or it started the day after CIA had

01:17:00.100 to shut down their, um, one of their programs.

01:17:02.880 It was like, yeah, it's brilliant.

01:17:05.900 That's why I'm not mad.

01:17:06.920 It's like, okay, we live in a free will realm where God gave us free will.

01:17:11.600 So how do you get information when, uh, you can't just take it?

01:17:15.900 Well, we get them to do it.

01:17:17.300 How do you get them to do it?

01:17:18.620 You, you incentivize them with social, uh, with social rewards, idol worship and sin.

01:17:24.620 And then, uh, who's going to be the face of it?

01:17:27.000 It can't, if people know it's us, like what it's like, okay, well, we'll give some backstories

01:17:31.660 and you have these, you have these, and that's why the character arcs of Zuckerberg and all

01:17:36.000 this, he goes to Hawaii and starts a farm and he's doing jujitsu and you're just like, same

01:17:41.100 with Elon.

01:17:41.780 It's just, I mean, I think the people exist, but I think that it is an archetypal thing

01:17:47.240 where, uh, they're just playing a role.

01:17:49.480 Yeah.

01:17:49.820 I mean, how are you CEO of the number one company in the world, Tesla, like as far as

01:17:56.980 like their stock and all that stuff.

01:17:58.220 And then a, the boring company of, of the tunneling, you know about that, right?

01:18:03.060 Yeah.

01:18:03.460 Yeah.

01:18:03.660 And then also, you know, space, um, space X, like the private NASA, all of that and Twitter

01:18:11.800 and, uh, uh, Starlink.

01:18:14.200 You want, want to know what I think it is?

01:18:15.560 And this is what I've been telling people for a long time.

01:18:17.380 And they're consolidating all of it in one, uh, structure.

01:18:21.200 So you have the internet, all of social, right?

01:18:24.700 All this, the X, the entire internet.

01:18:27.540 And then space X is like the area above us, you know, like, like, uh, trade global control

01:18:34.980 when it comes to drones and spying and all that.

01:18:37.160 And then the boring company I think is for, uh, uh, roads and highways and transportation

01:18:42.860 under the surface.

01:18:43.580 Is it like digging tunnels?

01:18:44.920 Yeah.

01:18:45.200 He literally has the number one tunnel digging.

01:18:47.380 And so you're just consolidating all of it into one monopoly under a story arc of one

01:18:53.240 man when it's obviously not that.

01:18:56.460 And so that's, that's what I think is happening.

01:18:58.640 It's all about consolidating story, right?

01:19:01.480 Yeah.

01:19:01.920 You need to have a story.

01:19:03.200 The story is what sells it.

01:19:04.560 That's why when people dramatize things, because that's what we have in our hearts, we have like

01:19:09.320 this, these archetypes, you know, the, the hero's journey.

01:19:11.540 And what, what top was talking about with the archetype is a great way to view the world of like,

01:19:15.700 what does the jester do?

01:19:16.780 What does the king do?

01:19:17.680 What is, you know, that's, it's so true, man.

01:19:20.560 And it's fun.

01:19:21.560 It's fun.

01:19:22.280 It's legit fun.

01:19:23.720 Let me ask you a question.

01:19:24.740 But I, I want to still talk about this, but, uh, pertaining to the jet, the jester king

01:19:29.420 thing.

01:19:29.740 Um, I haven't come across many, but I assume maybe, you know, so some people play, there's

01:19:37.300 certain archetypes.

01:19:38.080 Some people are just NPCs.

01:19:39.120 They don't really have this role in their life for whatever reason, but you Owen seem to play

01:19:43.280 too.

01:19:44.100 You play the jester, but you also play the king in a certain way.

01:19:48.260 And I play the king, but in my house, you're playing the king on like a much larger level.

01:19:53.300 How does that work?

01:19:55.340 And is this normal?

01:19:57.620 Great question.

01:19:58.680 I think the, uh, duality would be best described as the fool and the hero where you have the

01:20:04.880 hero's journey and the fool's journey is actually kind of oddly similar where the fool is stumbling

01:20:10.600 into this adventure because he's, he's such a retard and the hero does the same thing, but

01:20:16.580 it's because only a fool would be a hero kind of as like kind of the underlying thing.

01:20:21.580 And so, uh, that's, I think that's kind of where I'm at because I don't want power.

01:20:29.260 You know, I, I have the king archetype because people call me that or like people literally

01:20:33.500 like knit me like crowns and send it to me and shit.

01:20:36.700 It's like, I, for whatever reason, people view me as like the, um, the king in certain

01:20:42.560 ways, but I think it's just because I'm a placeholder of a value and they know that

01:20:47.720 I won't cock.

01:20:48.620 Like the king doesn't really do a lot on the chessboard.

01:20:50.940 You can only go like one position.

01:20:52.440 It's like, I think the concept that I'm not going to cook and I'm so fucking stubborn on

01:20:58.640 stuff that can be so stupid, even at my own detriment.

01:21:01.700 And then over time it gives people a sense of, uh, security where they're like, just thinking

01:21:08.500 about the fact that I am not going anywhere and I'm doing my thing and that I'm not going

01:21:14.220 all over the chessboard with my own, uh, agendas.

01:21:17.160 That's the king archetype of me.

01:21:19.320 Cause I don't possess some of the other ones where it's like, I don't have this like hyper

01:21:23.780 alpha vibe where I want to, I have my inner circle and I control shit and all that.

01:21:28.140 Like, that's not me at all.

01:21:29.180 For me, I think the, the reason people want to put a crown on me is like, you're going

01:21:33.820 to hold our area just because you won't leave, you know?

01:21:38.780 And so that's where I think that comes from.

01:21:40.400 I'm much more of a gesture, uh, type where, you know, I figure out a way to tell the powerful

01:21:47.800 people like the actual King archetypes, like just the King, the truth that would help them.

01:21:53.620 Like I've literally texted shit to my Jewish friends for years.

01:21:56.820 Like, please show this to the Jews.

01:21:58.900 I'm like, I'm like, if I do it in a funny way, will you be able to see, you know?

01:22:03.300 And, um, and that's what I'm always trying to do is trying to get very painful information

01:22:08.980 to people where we can maintain our social order.

01:22:12.300 Like, I don't want the chessboard to flip.

01:22:14.260 I, I studied world war two, you know, I studied, um, government collapse and all that stuff

01:22:20.180 in Czech Republic for college.

01:22:22.500 Like I know how this shit works, like the how to more and all that.

01:22:25.880 And it's the flipping of social order from corruption.

01:22:29.140 And when I see signs of it, I want to, uh, help it not do that.

01:22:33.680 Cause that's a lot of suffering when that happens.

01:22:36.620 Do you see the same thing?

01:22:38.900 Like how we just described what's going on with Elon.

01:22:42.220 It seems like they're, they're giving a story to this entire consolidation of companies in

01:22:46.900 order to have us buy it.

01:22:47.960 Because I do think you're right.

01:22:48.900 There is like, um, storytelling is something that is unique to the human experience.

01:22:54.620 And it resonates with us in such a deep level because of things like the hero's journey.

01:22:58.620 I think like Jesus Christ story is the ultimate hero's journey, right?

01:23:02.600 As far as like descending into the underworld and overcoming death and returning.

01:23:07.100 Um, so there is something about these stories that resonate with us.

01:23:11.140 Uh, maybe resonates, not even the word they are part of us.

01:23:14.440 They're real.

01:23:14.980 That's real.

01:23:15.860 That's the thing.

01:23:16.460 It gets to the point when I talked to people about this with placebo effect, they're like,

01:23:20.740 Oh, that's just shows the gullibility of people.

01:23:22.540 I'm like, it shows the power.

01:23:24.220 Yes.

01:23:24.620 Like if you can heal yourself with faith and belief, is that not real?

01:23:28.580 It's like, Oh, but it's, it's not real.

01:23:30.600 It's like, no, it's fucking real.

01:23:31.960 The higher realm is that realm.

01:23:33.940 And so when, when people have that come to Jesus moment and they feel like acceptance and

01:23:39.140 they rid themselves of their self-hatred and they take that forgiveness, like, is that not

01:23:43.960 real?

01:23:44.600 And someone's like, well, there's evidence.

01:23:47.380 I'm like, you're not in the same realm.

01:23:49.040 That's the realm of like, you know, Satan where it's like, where you have the ruler

01:23:53.600 of this realm.

01:23:54.260 And so, yeah, I think Elon Musk is as close to that as I can think of because of, um,

01:24:00.180 and it's okay.

01:24:00.920 Like, I'm not mad at it.

01:24:02.140 It's just like the selling of carbon credits is the closest to the sale of indulgences in

01:24:07.420 the world right now.

01:24:08.080 So Tesla doesn't make money selling cars.

01:24:11.020 The cars I think are humiliating, you know, like the Tesla truck to me is so ridiculous,

01:24:17.480 right?

01:24:17.900 They, they make money because, uh, all these, uh, countries have these laws where you have

01:24:24.880 to have this amount of carbon or there's a penalty.

01:24:28.040 And so what Tesla does is they get so many carbon credits because they have such a good

01:24:33.480 carbon footprint that they sell it to other companies and that's how they make all their

01:24:37.580 money.

01:24:37.840 So, so like, let's say, you know, Ford, uh, went over the line and so they come to the

01:24:44.380 Pope and they say, I have sinned, sir.

01:24:46.760 And he says, I will forgive you for this amount of money.

01:24:49.060 And he gives them carbon credits.

01:24:50.900 It's secular sale of indulgences.

01:24:53.040 So what, like right now the, the secular world is about carbon, uh, global warming,

01:24:58.940 all that shit.

01:24:59.620 And so Tesla is the place you go when you have sinned and you seek forgiveness through

01:25:05.540 the issuance of currency.

01:25:07.040 And so then if you control the social engineering, you control the space, you control the internet,

01:25:13.280 you control the mind, you control all of this and you allow people to pay you for your sin.

01:25:18.240 And that's the Pope, right?

01:25:20.900 That's the secular Pope.

01:25:22.120 And that to me is the closest thing you get to the lower G God of this world.

01:25:27.180 All right.

01:25:27.760 You just convinced me that Elon is the best example of this.

01:25:32.680 Um, that was a really great way of putting that.

01:25:35.060 Uh, I, but I wanted to get your thoughts on, on, I guess what would now be the runner up

01:25:38.540 of, of that example or an example that's like Elon is, um, am I wrong in looking at the

01:25:46.280 story of Donald Trump and recognizing the hero's journey, the unfair persecution of this character,

01:25:52.260 like it almost like mirrors Christ in some way.

01:25:55.080 Um, and then this, this like return of the King kind of a character we have, like, he's

01:25:59.500 written the, the book, the art of the comeback.

01:26:01.200 And he's, he's literally making a comeback.

01:26:03.380 Anybody with, um, any critical thinking skills would recognize that so many of the things that

01:26:07.820 were levied against him were paper thin, they fell apart.

01:26:10.120 So like the general mobs would, uh, rebel against him, but the critical thinker would go,

01:26:14.920 well, that doesn't really seem to be holding water.

01:26:16.740 So even if you didn't really resonate with the guy on a, on a political legislative level,

01:26:21.440 you might still resonate with a guy who you see being unfairly persecuted.

01:26:25.220 And now, um, we have this big sweeping comeback story, even with the assassination thing.

01:26:30.380 It's like, you know, you could think whatever you want about that, if that was genuine or

01:26:33.360 not, but the way in which it plays into this storytelling is so phenomenal to me that I can't

01:26:39.720 unsee it.

01:26:40.380 I cannot pretend that this isn't theater.

01:26:42.120 It really, um, screws me up because sometimes I go, Hey, Dave, you're retarded.

01:26:48.000 You don't know a lot.

01:26:48.760 This could very well just be going over your head.

01:26:51.420 You don't really understand politics that well, but there's some part of me instinctually

01:26:55.440 that looks at this and goes, well, that's storytelling.

01:26:57.660 And I, I just don't know if that, what do you think of that from looking at it?

01:27:01.200 I, I tap out at, um, when, when I have to figure out who's in on it and what, like,

01:27:08.620 who knows, like who has awareness, yeah, it's a hundred percent, uh, a story myth.

01:27:14.520 It's an archetype.

01:27:15.260 It's, it's playing out as a myth.

01:27:16.820 Right.

01:27:17.060 So, but what I always want to know is who was aware of it and who is just, I think this

01:27:23.160 realm has a way where, where, when you're, when you're kind of hollowed out or when you

01:27:28.780 live a certain frequency, you become part of a story that you're not really aware of.

01:27:34.300 And I, that could be totally the case because I've seen stuff like that play out in my life

01:27:38.560 where if I was a truther, I'd be like that.

01:27:41.420 There's no, the odds of that are insane.

01:27:43.080 Like, how did that just fucking happen where you're just part of a story?

01:27:46.040 That's why I always loved that movie, the never ending story.

01:27:48.020 And I did that breakdown on it.

01:27:49.780 So, yeah, I mean, it's like, this realm is all about, um, archetypes and storylines

01:27:56.080 and mythology and the higher realms, the lower realms and all that.

01:27:59.480 And the whole time you can always go higher realm.

01:28:01.960 You can always choose love and forgiveness and all, and, and truth and, uh, you know,

01:28:07.580 intentional suffering for the good of others and all this stuff that is really, you know,

01:28:11.980 divine is always available.

01:28:13.900 And, and while that's all happening, you can be a part of the never ending story.

01:28:18.620 You can watch it, enjoy it.

01:28:20.400 You know, it's just, once I like really knew that the soul is pretty eternal, I, I, I got

01:28:27.940 a little less freaked out by all kinds of shit with like that.

01:28:30.640 Um, you know, it's like, they're going to put me on a train.

01:28:34.260 Like, I'm just like, what?

01:28:35.800 I don't know.

01:28:36.480 I just think this place is a very interesting place and, and it, it just keeps going.

01:28:42.560 Sometimes I think that, um, they're very much like a government operation would compartmentalize,

01:28:48.880 you know, like a need to know basis.

01:28:50.340 Like you only, like if you take the Bob Lazar story and you believe that at all, I do think

01:28:54.480 that there's some significance to the idea that, um, in order to maintain a secret, they

01:28:59.760 would compartmentalize things.

01:29:01.200 Now I'm not saying that this is done on purpose, but it does seem like there's a compartmentalization

01:29:05.000 in that there are some people that are going with the flow and they're being nudged in, in

01:29:11.520 spiritual directions, not really aware of the part that they're playing.

01:29:15.280 Um, maybe being influenced subtly by something grander, something overarching or something

01:29:21.500 spiritual in my opinion.

01:29:22.580 But then there are people that, um, are doing a thing that they know is not good, but they

01:29:29.260 think they're doing it for the right purposes.

01:29:30.900 And then you have people there, there's all kinds of levels to that, but I do think there

01:29:35.620 is room in the conversation for going full schizo and being like, some people are in contact

01:29:41.700 with entities.

01:29:42.440 It's my feeling, I think there is room in the conversation for some people.

01:29:46.260 I mean, you don't have a history of like an Alistair Crowley doing, you know, seances

01:29:50.800 in, in the great pyramids and talking to like AWOS or whatever the hell it is.

01:29:54.220 And, you know, all these different things there, there's a precedent, a long time, uh, a historical

01:29:59.340 context for human beings, especially elites communing with entities in the spiritual realm.

01:30:04.820 And I think that still exists today.

01:30:07.100 Um, I think it's the main driving force, but I think all the way down, like, I wouldn't be

01:30:11.480 surprised if Trump doesn't really grasp the role that he's playing or, or even like you

01:30:17.300 just said, Oh, and where it's like things unfold in your life and only hindsight, do

01:30:20.320 you look back and you go, that's fucking weird.

01:30:22.380 And, and it happened against all odds.

01:30:25.200 And I could see how somebody would think there's a whole conspiracy here, but it's just the

01:30:28.620 way that it happened.

01:30:29.300 And is it, is it, is it like a fate thing?

01:30:31.560 Is it a, a spiritual thing?

01:30:33.260 Are you being nudged in this way or that way?

01:30:35.120 Or is it all, I mean, I don't think it's random, but I do think that's how it works.

01:30:38.280 It's, it's, uh, like a need to know basis almost bro.

01:30:41.540 A hundred percent, man.

01:30:42.540 That's how I view it.

01:30:43.380 Totally.

01:30:44.120 Where I think there are entities.

01:30:45.500 I think there's the angelic entities and the more demonic entities.

01:30:49.040 And I think, you know, that's what influence is.

01:30:51.860 That's why when people, the word influencer, I think is so fascinating because that realm,

01:30:58.320 I mean, Jerry Marzinski and those guys, I mean, it's like, they think that all of your

01:31:02.940 thoughts are influenced.

01:31:04.000 Like when you hear a thought in your head, that is an influence.

01:31:07.340 That's a, like a demonic presence.

01:31:09.040 And that was, I believe that.

01:31:10.700 Yeah.

01:31:10.820 And that was a psychiatrist at a prison who didn't believe in anything.

01:31:14.360 And he just was like asking these schizos, what the voices were saying.

01:31:18.660 And some of them were like lining up with other ones.

01:31:22.060 And it was like getting really freaky for them.

01:31:25.720 And, um, yeah, I mean, the idea that a lot of people aren't in on it is so true because

01:31:31.000 there's so much going on.

01:31:32.420 Like, I think a lot of the CIA was like when nine 11 happened, there's all these, um, there's

01:31:38.900 all these like stories of what went down at the CIA and they were all like terrified and

01:31:42.720 freaking out.

01:31:43.240 And I think a lot of them don't know any of it, you know?

01:31:47.720 And I think some of it is above.

01:31:49.820 I do think that there are people that are aware of some shit though.

01:31:53.960 I do think that there are some groups.

01:31:55.340 I just don't think that we know them.

01:31:56.980 I don't think that, um, I think fame is a liability.

01:32:00.440 It isn't an asset when you're dealing with massive social control, you know, when you're

01:32:04.740 dealing with, um, viewing the world as a farm and how to keep, how to keep it functioning

01:32:10.720 that you wouldn't, you wouldn't tell them who you are, you know?

01:32:16.180 I think that, um, that we, we talked to Dr. Jerry Marzinski and he brought that, I think

01:32:21.340 he said upwards of like 80% of your thoughts are not your own.

01:32:24.240 And, and I don't, not necessarily sure how he's come to that conclusion, but it is once

01:32:29.500 you have that in your head, if you keep that and you let the thoughts pass through that

01:32:35.060 filter, I'm like pretty sold on that idea too, bro.

01:32:38.820 Cause you know, the Jerry thing that he teaches people is like, would I say that, you know,

01:32:44.660 like, is that me?

01:32:45.600 Dude, it's so true.

01:32:46.960 Sometimes I'll see a story.

01:32:48.620 This is going to sound fucked up, but it's just true.

01:32:51.300 I think more people should just admit what, and I'll see something really sad or like

01:32:56.380 really awful.

01:32:58.060 And I'll just have this thought of like, they deserved it, you know?

01:33:02.520 And I'm like, that's not fucking me.

01:33:05.560 And, and I'm like, Holy shit.

01:33:07.700 Like that isn't like, I, that's not my thought.

01:33:11.480 And I think a lot of people have that where they're just like, they'll have this little

01:33:15.180 thing.

01:33:15.680 Just be like, good.

01:33:16.880 Yeah.

01:33:17.340 Fuck them.

01:33:18.260 Like, that's not you.

01:33:19.380 And it sounds like you, but it's just a thought or just like, um, you think someone, you just

01:33:24.600 look at somebody like, Oh, what a fat fuck or something, you know?

01:33:27.580 Yeah.

01:33:27.780 It's like, well, I think that it's like, jerk off, jerk off, right, right, right, right.

01:33:33.500 Leave me alone, dude.

01:33:34.260 I'm trying to fucking do some stuff.

01:33:35.640 And it's like, you should jerk off.

01:33:36.700 I'm like, fucking no, damn it.

01:33:38.160 Man.

01:33:38.260 Like people are like, Oh, you're hearing voice.

01:33:40.100 It's like, no, that like, think about your thoughts.

01:33:43.000 Like if your thoughts are destructive to you or other people in any way, why would you

01:33:46.860 think that?

01:33:47.640 Right.

01:33:48.120 It's actually a pretty good way of being a better person, you know?

01:33:52.320 Yeah.

01:33:52.860 And I think that it, it helps you to not look at those things as, as if they're like a

01:33:57.400 problem with you because everybody has it.

01:33:59.620 I really gotten to the point where I think schizophrenia is that just dialed up.

01:34:03.540 And I think the way that it gets dialed up is you keep consenting to these voices.

01:34:06.940 Yeah.

01:34:07.300 I also think they feed off of like fear and negativity and depression and anger and all

01:34:12.140 that shit.

01:34:12.780 The mess doesn't help.

01:34:14.100 Yeah.

01:34:14.420 And that doesn't help at all.

01:34:15.560 But if you're like, if you're engaging in, um, consenting to these voices, if I go like,

01:34:20.940 fine, I'll jerk off.

01:34:21.560 Right.

01:34:21.880 And then also I'm in a state of like depression and anxiety and anger, these things are feeding

01:34:26.580 and they're getting what they want.

01:34:27.940 So they're getting stronger.

01:34:28.740 And I think it just gets to the point where either you have like, uh, um, uh, a damn breaking

01:34:33.580 moment where like it builds up so big that there's a snapping moment.

01:34:36.500 And then all of a sudden you're, you're hearing something audible, or I think it just dials

01:34:40.040 up and it goes from thoughts to like, was that a whisper to like, eventually is that

01:34:45.080 a disembodied voice, uh, talking to my head?

01:34:47.180 It's been there all along.

01:34:48.500 It's just your willingness to engage in whatever it is.

01:34:51.860 It's telling you to do determines how strong it gets and how loud it gets.

01:34:55.220 Yeah.

01:34:55.580 And then that, like you, you detach from reality.

01:34:57.960 That's why we like having a sense of what's real is so important because like, there's a real

01:35:02.840 narcissism to schizophrenia, you know, where you're like, I, I, we're,

01:35:06.500 you're, you're now acting out the will of nonsense because that whole realm is nonsense.

01:35:12.360 And people, I've seen people suffering in that state and it's, yeah, I think a lot of

01:35:17.280 it is like what, uh, methamphetamines, I think does have a lot to do with it.

01:35:21.380 Like not sleeping.

01:35:22.380 There's gotta be something angelic about sleep where you reconnect, you know, like if you

01:35:27.120 stay in this place too long without sleep, you know, it's almost like we're underwater,

01:35:31.920 like scuba diving and you have to go up to the boat every night, you know, and if you're

01:35:36.820 here too long, like if you're up for five days on meth, like you start losing your, like,

01:35:41.700 uh, I think this, I think the, the carbon realm, you know, I think that's what six, six, six

01:35:46.520 means like the, the carbon is six, it's six protons and six neutrons, six electrons.

01:35:51.720 And I think there's some like funny joke with that where it's like, this realm is pretty

01:35:56.440 fucking nutty if you don't keep connecting to the divine, that's something that we've

01:36:01.800 been exploring here on the show is, you know, every once in a while, we'll talk to somebody

01:36:05.080 a little bit like new agey or something like that.

01:36:07.000 And they'll say like, Jesus Christ was never real.

01:36:09.700 You have 33 vertebrae and there's an oil secreted by your spine called Christos.

01:36:14.120 And if you can, through meditation, make that migrate to your pineal gland, you can achieve

01:36:19.940 some sort of ascended masterhood, which is what Jesus was allegedly, or you get like the

01:36:23.920 zeitgeist thing, right?

01:36:24.800 Where it's like, well, the son of God, literally the son will, um, as we reach the winter solstice

01:36:31.940 come to a position, this is very much from like zeitgeist, um, where it rests essentially

01:36:36.840 on what's called the celestial props.

01:36:39.140 Yeah.

01:36:39.260 And it rests there for three days and then it starts to the days get longer after that.

01:36:42.120 And so the, you know, the sun has risen and I don't look at that and go like, oh, then

01:36:46.980 Jesus Christ is just a, uh, an, an analogy for these layers.

01:36:51.560 Why can't all of it be true?

01:36:52.880 That's exactly what I'm saying.

01:36:54.380 Because if you look at the micro.

01:36:55.520 What I totally think is it's like, to me that reinforces true.

01:36:58.780 It's like, you're seeing layers, you're seeing layers of true shit rippling out in metaphor,

01:37:03.760 literal, all of it.

01:37:04.780 Yeah.

01:37:05.360 Yeah.

01:37:05.600 It's like, if you look on, it's like, you'll find the Fibonacci sequence on a pine cone,

01:37:10.140 but you'll also zoom in on the pine cone and continue to see it all the way down to the

01:37:13.480 micro and all the way up to the macro.

01:37:15.840 And I think that, yeah, why would this, this character of Jesus Christ seems a central figure to

01:37:21.240 our entire experience here.

01:37:22.940 Why wouldn't he be echoed in the macro all the way down to the micro?

01:37:27.180 That's, that's what I see in it.

01:37:28.560 Yeah.

01:37:28.900 That's the fractal nature of truth.

01:37:31.020 I think the, the more true it is, the bigger, the fractal where you see things that, that,

01:37:36.960 that scale in interesting ways.

01:37:39.180 And when the fractal runs out, cause sometimes there is an issue with fractals running out.

01:37:43.700 Um, yeah, I don't, I totally think that the son of God and the solstice and the three

01:37:49.320 days and the tomb and the 25, like I'm all about that shit.

01:37:52.560 That does not negate, uh, biblical Christianity at all.

01:37:56.120 In fact, it, it's more like a connector to the world around you where the ripples and the

01:38:01.780 winks, like the synchronicities, the Carl Jung stuff, that shit is so true, man.

01:38:05.860 And if you try and explain it to people, they think you're crazy, but like coincidences

01:38:10.700 that aren't remotely possible that just keep happening and you see them fractally happening

01:38:16.180 and what's true in the micro is true in the macro.

01:38:18.080 Like last night, my sons, dude, I do this stream on, what was it?

01:38:23.560 I don't want to just ramble here, but I did a stream topic that has everything to do with

01:38:28.680 what, uh, I witnessed.

01:38:30.300 And so my, I I'm sitting there and I'm just hanging with my kids and the kids are playing.

01:38:33.560 Oh yeah.

01:38:33.960 Simon says, so Walter just starts doing stuff and they don't even talk about it.

01:38:39.420 There's no communication at all.

01:38:41.940 And my other sons are like mimicking him and they're playing a, they're just playing a game

01:38:46.680 and they're full of total joy.

01:38:48.640 And, uh, and they're just doing stuff and it's just kids being kids and it just keeps

01:38:52.900 escalating until they literally start like an army.

01:38:56.900 So Walter's leading it and they're like marching past me and then he'll be like punch.

01:39:03.180 And they all punch me and they're, everyone's laughing and stuff.

01:39:06.120 And then they just start evolving into psyops where Jack is to like, kiss me and be like

01:39:12.200 really nice.

01:39:13.020 Well, Charlie punch.

01:39:13.920 And I'm like dying laughing that without any input, they're playing a game that becomes

01:39:19.040 NATO, you know?

01:39:20.540 And I'm just like, and that's, that's what the fractal is.

01:39:24.540 The fractal is when you see just these, like, like for example, narcissism, I think some

01:39:29.560 of that is, um, like something from childhood that didn't grow because every little kid has

01:39:35.920 this thing where they wanted to find themselves.

01:39:38.200 Like I am different than the group.

01:39:39.900 And when they're about three, every now and then you'll see something really funny.

01:39:42.820 Like Jack, uh, has his older brothers and everyone's playing and he's not being paid

01:39:47.260 attention to it.

01:39:47.980 And he just starts going me like it was, he just goes me like, that's it.

01:39:54.860 He just wanted everyone to know he exists.

01:39:57.540 Yeah.

01:39:58.180 And so when you're an adult and you have that where it's like, but me though, but me, me,

01:40:03.240 and you're not, and you're not, you didn't reconnect with the community again.

01:40:06.980 So you like, when you're born, you're completely helpless.

01:40:10.120 And then you start realizing you exist.

01:40:12.180 That's what they call the terrible tools too, is cause you're like, I can inflict shit.

01:40:15.780 You know, I'm like, and then you reconnect with the group and you reconnect with how everyone's

01:40:21.560 connected, but not like you exist, but we all have a connection.

01:40:25.100 And that's when you don't become narcissistic personality disorder.

01:40:28.360 And I think a lot of people these days because of bad, uh, family structures, exposure to,

01:40:33.820 you know, porn and all that, they just don't grow back to reconnecting.

01:40:38.960 And that's why you see so much of this, but me, but me, you know, like the people sending

01:40:44.220 CPS to your house.

01:40:45.200 They're like, but he made me feel bad.

01:40:47.540 Like, they're not like, is this fucked up?

01:40:49.840 You know, they're like, but, but me, like, no, I feel bad.

01:40:53.800 And it's like, but you just, but you just did that terrible thing.

01:40:57.460 It's like, yeah, but you're not understanding like me.

01:41:00.600 Yeah.

01:41:01.020 And I get it.

01:41:01.640 I get it.

01:41:02.120 It's, it is what it is.

01:41:03.420 But I mean, you know, on that, that topic of like your ability to see that, that fractal

01:41:09.620 nature all the way from your kids, all the way up to NATO and everything.

01:41:12.620 And then the same thing with like Christ, you only reject that if you start from a

01:41:17.800 premise of like wanting to disprove Christ, right?

01:41:20.720 Like, let's say like in that particular instance, you only reject that when that's your premise

01:41:24.900 and you see something and you go, no, no, no, no, you idiot.

01:41:27.520 That is just a fancy story for the sun in the sky, asshole, I win, right?

01:41:32.980 But if you don't do that, if you don't come from this like place of resentment, it actually

01:41:37.780 enriches your entire worldview.

01:41:39.980 And it makes it so that like, and it's not like it wasn't already enriched.

01:41:44.300 It's just your view became enriched, right?

01:41:46.020 The world is rich.

01:41:47.000 This realm that we inhabit is like fractal and multi-layered and, and spiritual and there's

01:41:52.460 storytelling happening and there's archetypes and everything.

01:41:54.380 And you could enjoy all of this, or you can come from this place of resentment where it's

01:41:57.720 like me, or it's like, no, Christ doesn't exist.

01:42:01.480 He's the juice in your spine, asshole.

01:42:03.980 And you know, it's, um, it's all right there, right in front of you, but your own psychology,

01:42:09.400 the filter that it passes through, it either damns you or it makes you have this incredible

01:42:14.100 experience and you get to decide, which is, I guess, where the free will comes in.

01:42:17.960 Yeah.

01:42:18.080 And you get these gifts when you admit that too.

01:42:20.220 I've noticed that like, every time you're like, I don't really know, like, you know,

01:42:23.860 and you're like, Oh, I was wrong.

01:42:25.140 Oh, but like, when you think that way, there is a force.

01:42:28.120 It's like, here's some more juice.

01:42:30.060 There's some more gravy.

01:42:31.180 Yeah.

01:42:31.780 So it like, yeah, you are limiting yourself and you're like, not your way.

01:42:35.860 It's, it's not me, you know?

01:42:37.680 I, yeah.

01:42:38.720 All right, man.

01:42:39.760 Um, well, look, Oh, and I, I really appreciate you making the time for us.

01:42:44.860 Uh, always a pleasure to, to be able to kick it with you.

01:42:47.720 Can you one more time as we bring this in for a landing, let everybody know where they

01:42:51.180 can go and, and find your content.

01:42:54.020 Unauthorized.tv is our, it's five bucks a month and it's, uh, the feed the bear.

01:42:58.280 That's like my one.

01:42:59.160 It has all of my George, my dog gets up every time I bring up unauthorized.

01:43:02.980 So, um, cause that's usually when I'm landing the plane.

01:43:06.020 So we have our own, we have our own, um, we have our own servers.

01:43:11.480 This is what I, what me and Vox did when I was kicked off YouTube.

01:43:15.380 So it's stable.

01:43:16.800 And then our social media, which is very manicure.

01:43:20.680 There's no intensity on it at all.

01:43:22.620 It's the good, the truth, the beautiful.

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01:43:26.860 And then owenbenjamin.com for my specials and a P.O.

01:43:30.720 Box 490 Sandpoint, Idaho, eight, three, eight, six, four, the fundamentals of free speech.

01:43:35.480 Thank you.

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01:43:39.320 Very cool, man.

01:43:40.480 Oh yeah, man.

01:43:41.400 We do the plugs and like, usually people are like, oh, you know, you can go and find me

01:43:45.100 here.

01:43:45.240 You can go find me here.

01:43:45.880 You're like, I've built this entire, uh, community and all this apparatus up around it

01:43:50.640 and, uh, have your pick.

01:43:52.380 Yeah.

01:43:52.760 I'm like, I don't, I don't trust it because people are like, could you believe Elon might kick

01:43:56.980 me off?

01:43:57.480 I'm like, yeah.

01:43:58.620 Ah, go figure, go figure.

01:44:01.740 As a matter of fact, it's a hundred percent possibility.

01:44:03.580 Like given enough time, you will get kicked off being on here.

01:44:06.900 But, uh, again, Owen, yeah, thank you for coming and spending time with us.

01:44:09.680 It's always a pleasure to talk with you.

01:44:11.460 Um, I'm going to brag to my wife again about how we spoke to Owen Benjamin today, but again,

01:44:16.100 until, until the next time guys, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.

01:44:19.980 We'll see you later.

01:44:20.720 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:44:27.080 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

01:44:30.840 You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.

01:44:35.940 You don't.

01:44:37.180 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

01:44:43.900 And they have.

01:44:44.720 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.

01:44:50.720 You're all right.

Nephilim Death Squad - January 11, 2025

109： The King and The Court Jester w⧸ Owen Benjamin

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