Nephilim Death Squad - January 14, 2025


110: Ancient Sumerian Deities w⧸ Greypilled


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 58 minutes

Words per Minute

166.04474

Word Count

19,638

Sentence Count

1,395

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

87


Summary

On this week's episode of The End of Day, David Lee Corbo ( ) joins us to discuss his new book, "Too Stupid to Stop: How to Survive the 21st Century in a World That's Too Stupid to Live," and how it's time to wake up to a world that's too retarded to stop.


Transcript

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00:01:33.780 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:01:42.760 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely huge.
00:01:48.600 Oh, yeah, dude.
00:01:49.840 There's some Neflam shit.
00:01:51.000 It's like we all know it's going down.
00:01:53.680 We know we're saying shit.
00:01:54.640 What happened to the home of the brave?
00:01:57.180 Motherf*****s, they're controlling this now.
00:01:58.860 We know we're talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
00:02:02.020 And everybody's just walking around.
00:02:04.100 Heading to cross.
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00:02:07.220 But it's too late.
00:02:08.180 We need to be ready to raise up.
00:02:10.040 Welcome to the end of day.
00:02:11.680 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:02:21.760 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:02:24.780 That is Top Lobster, who is too retarded to stop.
00:02:29.120 I hate it.
00:02:29.760 Stop it.
00:02:30.380 No, it doesn't sound good.
00:02:31.440 We're going back the other way.
00:02:32.700 Before we get into today's guest, guys.
00:02:34.700 We do the whole thing.
00:02:35.920 No, I'm not going to do it.
00:02:37.420 Okay, we're starting.
00:02:38.180 We're doing it right now from where we are.
00:02:39.740 Before we get into today's guest, guys, don't forget to – oh, this – I forgot.
00:02:45.540 You ruined me, dude.
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00:02:57.300 Got to cut in some ads as well as touch up some audio.
00:03:01.260 If you want to continue listening along, you can do so over at patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad where we can even pull up your chats and all of that good stuff.
00:03:09.520 You guys can interact with us there.
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00:04:14.460 Today's guest, guys, a long time coming.
00:04:16.640 I did his show recently, but it's been a while that we've been planning to have him on our show.
00:04:21.480 We have Jules, Jules, Jules Santana of the Grey Pilled Podcast is joining us today.
00:04:27.840 Jules, for the audience who might not be familiar with you, brother, let them know where they can find your work and what it is that you focus on.
00:04:34.540 Yeah, man.
00:04:35.260 It's funny that you call me Jules Santana.
00:04:38.000 That's what all the blacks call me here in my city.
00:04:42.580 Shout out to Jules Santana.
00:04:44.640 Yeah, shout out to Jules.
00:04:46.380 I'm Jules.
00:04:47.260 I have the Grey Pilled Podcast.
00:04:48.600 I've been going now for about almost a year.
00:04:52.640 February 2nd will be my one-year anniversary of the show.
00:04:58.340 I actually do a few shows, so I have the main show, which is just Grey Pilled.
00:05:04.160 I kind of alternate weeks.
00:05:06.060 One week, I'll have a couple guests on for kind of like a swap cast or an interview, kind of like what we're doing.
00:05:12.760 Or I'll do a deep dive of some sort, like some kind of esoteric kind of review of a book.
00:05:23.120 Then I do, on my alternate weekends, I do other live streams where I kind of kick it with the chat.
00:05:29.800 We watch videos.
00:05:31.040 We get into some conspiratorial stuff.
00:05:33.180 I have Cryptid Watch, me and Conspiracy Extremist, every other Sunday.
00:05:38.900 It's another show that I do where we fuck around, just watch Cryptid videos, have a good time.
00:05:44.840 I also have a few more shows.
00:05:47.040 I produce for Already Dead every Tuesday night with Jose and Austin.
00:05:51.720 Shout out Jose and Alisson in Austin.
00:05:53.740 It's a great show.
00:05:55.320 Yes, yes.
00:05:56.020 And I'm not too familiar with the parapolitical realm, so it's cool to kind of hear them talk about it.
00:06:01.160 And I learn a thing or two.
00:06:03.540 And then I relate that to stuff that I have been researching for years.
00:06:07.700 I also have a show with the Paranoid American called Sound Science, which we had Toad on recently.
00:06:15.640 That was fun.
00:06:16.120 Sorry.
00:06:17.340 Oh, dude.
00:06:18.100 Look, his knowledge of music is very vast.
00:06:21.820 So I was very impressed.
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00:07:33.520 Yeah, dude.
00:07:34.980 Yeah.
00:07:35.380 He was like, oh, I know that band.
00:07:37.420 I know that band.
00:07:38.040 I'm like, holy shit, dude.
00:07:39.600 That's interesting.
00:07:40.240 He's kind of like a rain man of music.
00:07:42.720 Well, technically, he doesn't know shit technically, but he does know a lot of music.
00:07:48.800 He's always going to see a different band that I've never heard of.
00:07:51.820 Always.
00:07:52.600 Kudos to Toad.
00:07:53.860 Toad is the man.
00:07:55.160 Yeah.
00:07:55.540 We can't stop talking about Toad on no matter what show we go on.
00:07:59.440 It's Toad's year.
00:08:00.340 Is it the year of the frog?
00:08:01.500 Because I think it has to be.
00:08:02.780 He's going to find a lot of success this year.
00:08:04.920 You know, Jules, I've been watching you.
00:08:08.080 And I know you said that you're coming up on the year in February, which congratulations.
00:08:11.780 That's right around the corner.
00:08:12.800 That's awesome.
00:08:13.260 It's a big milestone.
00:08:15.460 If you look up the percentage of podcasts that make it to the year mark, it's very far and few in between.
00:08:20.320 The vast majority don't.
00:08:22.020 And so that's a big thing that you're heading up towards.
00:08:25.260 But not only have you been doing this for a year, you've also been mighty prolific.
00:08:30.900 I mean, there's not a lot of people that are creating the amount of content that you're creating.
00:08:35.800 And I do believe that within this space, content is king.
00:08:40.220 But if you can take it a step further and actually show people something compelling, something interesting, then you've really got a good formula for success.
00:08:47.800 And you are.
00:08:48.360 You're covering a lot of things that are parallel, overlapping, lots of Nephilim shit.
00:08:53.840 And you're hanging out with so many of our favorite people.
00:08:56.860 I think success is on its way for you.
00:08:59.300 But I want to ask, before we jump into kind of the meat of the conversation, how'd you get here, dude?
00:09:05.340 Like, you know, that's always, to me, interesting.
00:09:08.440 The Nephilim shit space is like, what led you here?
00:09:10.900 Well, I got clean back in 2018 off of drugs, right?
00:09:18.780 Okay.
00:09:18.980 Off of opiates.
00:09:20.460 I'm pretty open about it.
00:09:22.100 And it led me to having a spiritual connection with Christ because I was an atheist most of my life.
00:09:30.120 And I had a couple experiences where I almost lost my life.
00:09:35.500 And, you know, once you start to walk with that Holy Spirit, you start to kind of see good things happen, right?
00:09:42.300 It starts to manifest in your everyday life.
00:09:44.960 So that drew me closer to realizing that, holy shit, the realm that we live in is fucked and the people running it are doing very dark things on a large scale.
00:09:59.200 And they have been for thousands of years.
00:10:01.860 And so that led me to kind of read some, not only the Bible, but other ancient texts.
00:10:08.900 And this is, this led me to my research on basically fallen angel lineages, different pantheons, how they're all related to the same core, core, I guess you could say entities, deities, beings, however you want to look at it.
00:10:28.460 There's many ways to interpret it.
00:10:30.080 And, and that's, I was going to mention my favorite show that I do with my co-host, Adrian West, Elohim Etymology, which I haven't done one in a couple months.
00:10:40.680 He does video production and stuff for a whole bunch of concerts.
00:10:45.800 And so he's been kind of traveling, but we have, we have a lot of good stuff coming.
00:10:49.540 Uh, but you know, years of researching stuff and going down these dark, these dark rabbit holes, you know, if, if, if you don't talk about it, you will kind of start to go crazy a little bit, right?
00:11:02.120 Yes.
00:11:02.560 And I've, at the same time, driving my, my wife completely insane.
00:11:06.660 Um, which I mean, she may deserve it cause she's the one that got me into it, you know?
00:11:11.380 Did she really?
00:11:12.480 Yeah.
00:11:12.940 Yeah, dude.
00:11:13.400 Uh, back, so we've known each other since we were 12 or 13.
00:11:16.980 Um, we, we used to go to punk rock shows and stuff.
00:11:21.060 I used to play in a band.
00:11:22.160 And so, uh, yeah, we started dating.
00:11:25.040 Then, uh, she got pregnant with our son and we got married and yeah, that was 11 years ago.
00:11:30.840 And back in 2012, she showed me Bohemian Grove.
00:11:35.200 And she was like, yeah, these are all the world leaders sacrificing children in the woods up in, up in California.
00:11:40.800 I was like, oh, holy shit.
00:11:43.480 This, this can't be real.
00:11:44.760 Uh, little did I know it was real and not only is it real, it goes a lot deeper than that.
00:11:53.160 And I, I, I found that out.
00:11:54.760 And, and so, um, yeah, man, just, just years of researching this stuff led me to where she was like, Hey, you should talk about this stuff.
00:12:03.780 You, you, wow.
00:12:05.080 Yeah.
00:12:05.380 You, you have knowledge on, on a lot of it.
00:12:07.860 And, uh, I, I don't want you talking my head off about it.
00:12:12.260 And so, uh, yeah, you should want you a mic.
00:12:15.100 He's like, tell somebody else.
00:12:16.420 Yeah, that's exactly what that is.
00:12:18.020 It was her own saving grace.
00:12:19.180 Look, I mean, uh, top and I are in the same space, right?
00:12:21.460 I'm sure both of our wives, um, don't want to hear about it anymore, but it can't stop talking about Jamaica.
00:12:28.520 My wife is just like, okay.
00:12:29.980 Which one does she prefer?
00:12:31.320 Is she rather you talk about the Nephilim or Jamaica, or is it really all kind of the same thing?
00:12:35.100 It's the same thing.
00:12:36.280 Um, big cross section.
00:12:37.660 Am I going to go back?
00:12:38.640 I would go back.
00:12:39.640 Honestly, like a dangerous retards cruise to Jamaica would be a lot of fun, but I'm not going back by myself.
00:12:46.300 The English did it at one point, right?
00:12:47.860 I mean, we could probably do it.
00:12:49.100 I think we could do it.
00:12:49.880 Yeah.
00:12:50.640 Yeah.
00:12:50.940 Just a couple of sticks and, uh, you should really need to outsmart them.
00:12:54.000 It's not hard.
00:12:54.640 That's all, but this is not hard.
00:12:55.560 I don't want to get started on Jamaica.
00:12:57.480 Please don't get me started on Jamaica.
00:12:58.920 Um, okay.
00:13:00.540 So, so I do have one more question before we get started.
00:13:04.000 I know we came here because you do a great job of unpacking kind of this like Sumerian connection.
00:13:08.900 Um, I've heard you talk at length about, uh, Enki and Enlil and, and who those characters actually are and how they connect to the bigger picture.
00:13:15.380 And I'd be really interested in having that conversation today, but you do a show called Cryptid Watch, which is a lot of fun in concept, right?
00:13:22.320 Um, on my show, Timeline Cleanse, we mostly watch street fights and, um,
00:13:28.480 Hey, can I, can I kind of like bring this show in a weird place really quickly?
00:13:32.720 Of course.
00:13:33.400 Yeah.
00:13:33.740 Just a little bit of a Cryptid Watch before we get into this.
00:13:36.200 But this is a video that I just put up on my Twitter and I really think that it's, it would be interesting for you to watch.
00:13:42.600 Now this is, if you have children watching at home, uh, or listening, I guess you can pause it here because it's, it does get a little bit adult, but it's, I think it's funny and it's very topical.
00:13:53.920 So check this, check this video out.
00:13:55.260 Oh yeah.
00:13:58.240 Stay with me.
00:14:02.980 That's a very hard level.
00:14:08.240 This game is a lot like Flappy Bird, but with a very specific connection.
00:14:13.440 You can use the Mission 2 to control your characters.
00:14:18.040 By the way, always like, why are morbidly obese women so, um, obtuse about their sexual lives?
00:14:25.100 Okay, so she gets to the point where, well, this game is not so fun, but there are other games and check this other game out.
00:14:30.760 Flappy isn't the only game that you can play with the Mission 2.
00:14:33.140 Lovance also has a bunch of other games on their app and you can also access different types of...
00:14:37.600 Read that name.
00:14:39.180 Yeah.
00:14:40.400 Breeders of the Nephilim.
00:14:42.580 Holy shit, dude.
00:14:43.640 Holy shit is right.
00:14:45.520 And it's, it's one of these furries who we've already established, uh, uses this, well, some of them use the name furry, some of them use, use the name Therion.
00:14:53.700 Yes.
00:14:53.920 Which is a derivative of an Alistair Crowley, you know, Jesus, where does that, where does that come from?
00:14:58.480 Um, from his Thulemic book, where I think Therion is like the beast that's related to...
00:15:03.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:04.580 It's, it's the same thing as the beast in, uh, the book of Revelation.
00:15:08.600 Okay.
00:15:09.040 So...
00:15:09.600 Apollyon.
00:15:10.960 Right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:12.220 One and the same.
00:15:13.060 The beast of the great abyss.
00:15:14.600 Yeah.
00:15:14.780 They're calling themselves that as like a term of endearment or something.
00:15:18.040 They're like, oh, I'm not a furry today, I'm a Therion, or I'm this or that, whatever they identify with.
00:15:22.260 And I just find it very interesting.
00:15:24.760 It's not lost on them.
00:15:26.020 Because if you go through, like, um, it just so happens that when you piss off a community of people, you will, um, oftentimes find these type of characters.
00:15:35.880 So their profile picture will have like either an anime thing or like a furry thing or something like that.
00:15:40.660 And if you click on their page, you're like, oh, what is this person all about?
00:15:43.800 Like, they're talking shit to me.
00:15:44.720 Let's see what they're about.
00:15:45.440 And like, very often they will have Nephilim in their handle or something like that.
00:15:49.820 So I don't know if they are really immersed in it or if it's just like a peripheral knowledge somehow, because these things are connected, right?
00:15:58.480 It's like, their game is Flappy Bird.
00:16:00.640 They're like, oh, we figured out, we develop a game called Flappy Bird.
00:16:03.320 And then also Breeders of the Nephilim.
00:16:06.080 Like, excuse me?
00:16:07.400 You don't go from, I thought we were going to do, we skipped, uh, you know, cut the fruit.
00:16:12.040 Like, what happened, people?
00:16:13.760 Can we have done Fruit Ninja with a dildo?
00:16:15.440 Would have been cool.
00:16:18.140 Yeah, I think there's something tied to that, like a familiar spirit, maybe.
00:16:22.940 Yeah, like, um, like a whispering.
00:16:25.040 That's like, so in my opinion, a lot of people that are moving around aren't aware of the ways in which they're being nudged spiritually.
00:16:35.360 You know, so like you might, it's like the idea of the muses, right?
00:16:38.520 Where it's like, where did you come up for this, the idea for this art that you've created?
00:16:41.320 And it's like, well, it came to me in a dream or, or, you know, I, I, Flappy Bird, what a banger.
00:16:46.520 Flappy Bird, very funny.
00:16:47.780 Uh, shout out, uh, Zamugman, uh, Z-Man.
00:16:50.620 So, um, I do think that you don't have to be keyed in to the entire bigger picture to be inspired to use these elements in your artwork.
00:17:00.320 And then the question is, what's inspiring you?
00:17:02.240 Well, it, it also leads to the topic of, of today, right?
00:17:04.640 It's like ancient Sumerian deities that have an effect on today's religion.
00:17:08.200 And not just religion, but culture, apparently, apparently our tech, our dildos, all this stuff.
00:17:12.240 It's all one in the same.
00:17:13.500 It's a through line.
00:17:15.140 They came for our tech and I said nothing because I wasn't a tech bro.
00:17:19.060 They came for our dildos and I said nothing because I was not a dildo, bro.
00:17:22.640 So, yeah, um, it is something that permeates the culture and, and, uh, oftentimes will display itself in the most debaucherous corners of our culture.
00:17:30.980 Things that probably would be better left in the dark and the shadows, but instead they're at, um, I don't know, what was that?
00:17:37.280 A conference or something like that?
00:17:38.900 You know, it's like, we're no longer doing things that we're ashamed of in secret.
00:17:42.940 We're doing them and monetizing them.
00:17:45.280 No, well, shout out timeline, Clint.
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00:17:49.140 Uh, I was told that.
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00:18:33.060 Um, well, by, by, by the guy that we did, uh, Bohemian Grove with, he rented out a, a hole to do a Comic-Con where this kind of stuff would be going on.
00:18:43.820 Like, I've been to some Comic-Cons.
00:18:45.000 It's like, this is what happens.
00:18:46.180 These are the people.
00:18:47.580 And I was like, hey, maybe, uh, Bohemian Grove could be in, in one of these bigger venues.
00:18:52.240 And he was like, oh, I don't know if they'd be okay with you guys, you know, be in there.
00:18:55.360 I was like, we didn't, you know, we did a presentation on the, the Chrome and we did show a penis on the screen once.
00:19:05.400 He didn't like that.
00:19:06.000 For 30 seconds or so.
00:19:06.660 Just once.
00:19:07.080 I'm like, but I'm like the degeneracy.
00:19:08.980 You see, like, I, I do this kind of like degeneracy to kind of show you like, hey, I'm married.
00:19:13.460 Like closing it.
00:19:14.100 Yeah.
00:19:14.700 Yeah.
00:19:14.940 I'm married with two kids and I'm just like, we're just like touching the line of like, this is like, this is what's acceptable in society.
00:19:20.160 But when, when I say it, we're like the outcasts, but these people can come in there.
00:19:24.100 It's just actual dicks.
00:19:26.220 Yeah.
00:19:26.760 It's baffling.
00:19:27.780 Yeah.
00:19:28.060 It's baffling to me.
00:19:30.060 Yeah.
00:19:30.580 So, so, okay.
00:19:32.340 This is, um, let's get into the, the, the bigger picture here.
00:19:36.320 We just watched, uh, Billy Carson get torched in many ways by Wesley Huff.
00:19:42.440 Shout out Wes Huff.
00:19:43.440 Yeah, man.
00:19:43.860 Yeah.
00:19:44.180 And he was just on Rogan's podcast.
00:19:45.820 Top and I listened to was an excellent podcast.
00:19:47.740 No complaints.
00:19:48.300 Um, followed by Mel Gibson's appearance on Rogan, which also banger, um, two Christian centric episodes on the biggest platform in the world.
00:19:58.600 And Wes is coming off of the, um, the back of having demolished Billy Carson and really just showing him the many ways in which he's misinterpreting texts, misrepresenting texts, or how the texts that he's referencing are not relevant to the conversation at all.
00:20:16.320 And it was pretty masterfully done.
00:20:18.320 And I don't want to throw sort of the Billy out with the bathwater in the sense that, um, there is a lot of really compelling information hidden within this Anunnaki narrative, hidden within these Sumerian texts, these characters, the epic of Gilgamesh, right?
00:20:35.340 All of these various characters, um, seemingly are different names for characters that we are otherwise familiar with, uh, within Christianity or even other, um, mythos like Greek mythology and things of that nature.
00:20:48.600 And so what I like about what you're doing, Jules, is you have this Christian centric worldview, but you're still looking at these things and trying to see, well, how do they play with this Christian, Christian centric worldview?
00:21:01.240 Um, how might these characters actually be characters that we do know or know of, and, um, is this one of these things where it's nine truths and one very important lie?
00:21:12.840 And so, uh, I guess you can sort of take it away, Jules, if you want, with, um, what did you start to discover as you went through these, like, Sumerian epics?
00:21:23.540 Well, you know, you, you, I, I think you, I think you described it very well when you say, uh, you know, the nine truths and the one lie.
00:21:33.160 Um, you know, I, I first, when I first got into this stuff, I did watch a lot of Billy Carson.
00:21:41.160 Um, and if you're, if you're kind of getting introduced to the Anunnaki or the Elohim, whatever you want to call them, um, even the Nephilim and stuff, uh, he, you know, he, he has, he has, he has, he has,
00:21:53.540 he has some pretty good videos, but he loses, he kind of loses the mark where he veers into that, you know, we, uh, should be worshiping these deities or a certain sect of them.
00:22:08.460 Uh, one side, good one side, bad.
00:22:10.420 I think both sides are bad just in different ways.
00:22:13.960 Uh, and when you look at it, you, you can kind of relate them to today, like the liberal archetype and the like neocon archetype.
00:22:23.540 Um, and so when I started to get into that and I started to read all these other texts, the book of Enoch, uh, the Epic of Gilgamesh, like, like you had said, um, the Necronomicon, you can start to make comparisons and contrasts between these certain deities.
00:22:43.700 And you realize that, oh my God, they're, they're talking about the same ones and all these stories just by different names.
00:22:51.900 Uh, they usually keep the same archetype.
00:22:54.400 Um, but you know, when I found that connection with Christ, you know, and, and you, you did hear him say that all this stuff about Jesus, uh, that I don't find to be true.
00:23:06.500 You know, everyone has their own interpretation, but, um, but yeah, man, I mean, he, he puts some good information out there, but you do have to take some of it with a grain of salt, excuse me.
00:23:18.700 Um, and, uh, for instance, the whole space thing right now, I've started to look at this as when folks say that they're, they're spaceships.
00:23:29.180 Maybe it's like, uh, like, uh, what's it, the Merkaba light bodies, right?
00:23:34.300 Then they're coming out of portals.
00:23:36.140 Uh, maybe they're much more ancient, ancient beings, uh, that have been here a lot longer than us.
00:23:44.040 Um, but you do start to find similarities with all of these deities, for instance, Inky, right?
00:23:51.400 Uh, the first one to fall in a sense, Samael, who,
00:23:58.060 you know, certain, uh, classes of religions look as like a necessary evil, right?
00:24:06.320 You see that a lot in the, uh, Kabbalah mysticism.
00:24:11.540 They, they, they kind of, uh, I, I don't want to say worship Samael, but they, uh, he is.
00:24:19.840 Venery.
00:24:20.720 Yes.
00:24:21.440 Yes.
00:24:21.920 Very much so.
00:24:23.420 Um, and you kind of see this with Enlil and Inky.
00:24:27.460 Uh, this masculine and somewhat feminine side to it.
00:24:32.320 And so Inky, in my opinion, is the Lucifer archetype.
00:24:37.140 And it is what is being brought back right now.
00:24:40.580 And you have all these other, all these other deities, um, and they're all in the same family.
00:24:46.460 Hmm.
00:24:47.580 And like I said, you can trace this through the stories such as like Lilith.
00:24:52.560 And, um, I was doing some research earlier today on some stuff that I think we could bring
00:24:58.080 up in a little bit.
00:24:59.280 Um, we, you know, y'all start talking about cryptids.
00:25:02.380 Uh, I found, uh, pretty interesting stuff that could be related to like Leviathan, behemoth,
00:25:12.320 um, these ancient monsters I think would be pretty cool.
00:25:15.780 But, um, for instance, with like, uh, ancient vampires, right?
00:25:20.940 This goes back to Samaria, uh, known as the wind spirits or the Lolitu, Lolitu Lilith, same
00:25:30.680 thing, right?
00:25:32.220 Um, which she is just a granddaughter of both Inky and Enlil.
00:25:38.160 Because when you look at these stories, you also see they intermarry a lot, which you see
00:25:43.560 with these elite families, right?
00:25:46.680 Um, and, and so with each one of these deities, okay, well, I, I, I won't put it like that.
00:25:56.340 So with each, with each one of these deities, you can trace them and, uh, you can kind of
00:26:03.100 tell that, especially through symbolism, which ones are being worshiped, uh, throughout the
00:26:08.580 ages, which civilization holds which one in the highest regard.
00:26:12.700 Uh, it's, it's kind of an incredible, but, uh, yeah, man, also people like to, another thing
00:26:23.120 that Billy does is, well, I guess not just Billy.
00:26:28.460 There's a lot of people that get into this stuff.
00:26:30.160 Many interpretations, like I said, uh, I don't, and y'all should take what I give you
00:26:35.840 with, you know, with a grain of salt as well.
00:26:38.880 Um, that there are two sides to it and that we're kind of being pinned against each other
00:26:44.180 by these sides, right?
00:26:46.460 Can I just go back again to Sam Iel?
00:26:48.540 Cause I'm, I'm just like thinking about what I know about him.
00:26:51.120 So you mentioned Lilith in the same breath as you did Sam Iel and you're saying that like
00:26:55.220 they're a duality or are you saying, cause some people think that they were married.
00:26:58.720 Like, I don't know if this is, uh, I don't even know if it matters cause.
00:27:03.060 Well, she, okay.
00:27:04.800 So if you look at it in the family tree, uh, she is a granddaughter of both, well, I guess
00:27:14.680 a great granddaughter of Inki and Enlil because Inki's daughter marries, um, Enlil's son, right?
00:27:24.540 His son being Nanarsen, the moon God, which I believe, uh, is the God of Islam.
00:27:32.800 Uh, Inki's daughter being, uh, what's her name?
00:27:38.100 I, uh, name will come to me.
00:27:41.060 Ningal, Ningal.
00:27:42.260 Um, and then having Utu Shemash, um, Erish Kagal, who is known as Persephone, Utu Shemash.
00:27:51.240 Uh, you can see him in the book of Enoch.
00:27:53.620 He taught the signs of the sun.
00:27:54.960 He's the sun God Helios, Shamsiel, um, one of the fallen angels.
00:27:59.700 Also, Inanna, Ishtar, um, what's another name?
00:28:06.000 Uh, As, Ashtaroth, Ashtaroth, I think, um, Venus, which is another form of Lucifer worship
00:28:14.760 because before there was any, so the original Lucifer worship was really just the worship
00:28:20.520 of Venus or the morning star before it turned into what you would call like an egregore,
00:28:25.560 right?
00:28:25.860 Or like someone taking on that archetype.
00:28:28.540 And so, Inki, so Lilith being the granddaughter, great-granddaughter of Samael, they still had
00:28:35.640 sexual relations.
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00:29:19.020 Right?
00:29:20.920 So, you do see that with most of these entities, which we know is just, it's probably just something
00:29:29.760 you shouldn't do, right?
00:29:30.960 Um, and so, yeah, man, I, I mean, you see these archetypes manifesting today, um, but when
00:29:43.340 you go back, when you go all the way back, now it's the same thing with Marduk.
00:29:48.860 Most people don't know that Enki's son Marduk was the original fallen angel, Azazel.
00:29:54.360 And like I said, there's certain religious sects that, uh, I guess you could say worship these
00:30:00.720 entities.
00:30:02.180 Uh, I don't know if y'all want to get into that.
00:30:04.700 Well, before we do, can I ask you a question about, um, Enki and Enlil?
00:30:08.420 Uh, what characters might we otherwise know them by as far as names go?
00:30:14.860 Well, Enki, uh, there's a couple older names like in the Akkadian Assyrian kind of pantheons.
00:30:24.060 Um, Aya, the god of the water, then you have Nudamud, the artful fashioner, and this goes
00:30:30.340 back to him creating hybrid beings, right?
00:30:33.400 And, and them knowing that like, oh, we shouldn't be doing this.
00:30:36.620 Uh, they refer to a creator of all, right?
00:30:38.880 So even they know that there is a higher power above them and they know that they are doing
00:30:45.540 wrong.
00:30:46.840 Um, and they questioned that quite a lot.
00:30:49.060 So for them to follow through with, it's kind of like, okay.
00:30:51.560 Um, well, Jules, before you go on, I just wanted to say that what this is, um, reminding
00:30:58.140 me of is this same thing that we have playing out today.
00:31:00.880 So when it comes to politics, we unironically identify both political parties as the left
00:31:08.300 wing and the right wing, which is to say two sides of the same entity, right?
00:31:14.320 Yeah.
00:31:14.520 Two wings of the same bird, uh, or maybe two wings of the same fallen angel.
00:31:18.560 And then of course you have this in Freemasonry too, where people will suspect that much of
00:31:25.320 the theater that we see unfolding on the world stage is a sort of Freemasonic ceremony of
00:31:32.320 sorts, where you're having this left-hand path.
00:31:35.800 And the right-hand path and the right-hand path, right.
00:31:38.500 Uh, light magicians, dark magician, and we're meant to root for one, but what do these hands
00:31:45.040 belong to?
00:31:45.880 Well, they're two hands of the same entity and it isn't lost on me how impactful that
00:31:52.100 modality is on, you know, human beings to do that, to create this bit of theater, to have them
00:31:58.020 rooting for one side or another, when it's really just the same entity.
00:32:02.080 Um, that's some of the most powerful control mechanisms that we're exposed to today.
00:32:07.140 And it would seem only appropriate if I learned that that same methodology is one that's been
00:32:14.400 there since the dawn of time.
00:32:15.460 So when you're talking about Enki and Enlil and, and all these different entities, um,
00:32:19.880 it almost feels like what you're getting at is that since then it's been this false binary.
00:32:25.900 Yes.
00:32:26.340 And, uh, you asked for some more kind of comparisons, uh, in, in Leo, you could compare
00:32:32.580 him to L, Saturn, uh, Cronus, uh, Enki, you could compare to Poseidon, right?
00:32:39.680 Cause AI meaning the God of the water.
00:32:42.700 Um, yeah, man.
00:32:45.040 And then you have like, uh, for instance, the Luciferic archetype, uh, Prometheus, right?
00:32:53.320 You could refer to him as that as well.
00:32:55.720 Um, with Enlil, his son being Ishker relates a lot to Zeus, right?
00:33:02.280 So you got Cronus, Zeus.
00:33:04.320 So, I mean, and, and most, and some people would be like, well, Ishker, he more relates
00:33:09.820 to Saturn and this.
00:33:10.920 And so, I mean, there's many ways you, you could look at it.
00:33:14.400 Uh, but this is my interpretation, right?
00:33:16.500 Um, so I think people should, if they're interested in it further do maybe their own
00:33:25.260 research and try to find other kind of connections because you can find out more and more about
00:33:30.400 this stuff, the far that you, you keep going into it.
00:33:33.840 Um, well, yeah, man, no, it is dense.
00:33:37.340 I do recommend people, um, use you to, to help launch their research because from the outside
00:33:43.440 looking in, this is a daunting and dense topic and it's so foreign, even though it's
00:33:48.940 so, um, intrinsic to our experience here in this realm, it's still so foreign, which
00:33:54.700 is obviously by design, right?
00:33:56.040 It's like the very nature of the place that we inhabit is a mystery to us.
00:33:59.180 And, uh, and so it is daunting to try to understand these things.
00:34:01.980 But I think what you're doing over there at Greypill podcast is a great, um, way to help
00:34:07.360 people piece these things, uh, together.
00:34:09.800 But I wanted to ask you something and yes, we are going to cut the stream soon guys.
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00:34:34.980 Um, so Jules, you had mentioned Samael and how he was perceived as a necessary evil.
00:34:41.000 And that brings to mind this idea of Satan, right?
00:34:44.400 Uh, Satan being the accuser, uh, and I'm kind of becoming more and more comfortable with
00:34:48.980 this as being, um, uh, a job title, one that's meant to, uh, test man in various different
00:34:56.980 ways.
00:34:57.380 And that's why you'll often see Satan communicating with God, asking if he's allowed to do X, Y,
00:35:03.080 and Z to Job and, uh, and, and God is allowing some of it, but not all of it.
00:35:07.940 There are rules to engagement.
00:35:09.100 And it does seem that I'm not sold one way or the other, but I could understand how a character
00:35:15.640 like that would be important to our development spiritually and, and, and cognizantly, you know,
00:35:21.820 intelligent, just our development.
00:35:23.740 All right.
00:35:24.360 So, um, I'm wondering, I'm wondering, um, is that what you're getting at when you say
00:35:29.780 that people perceived him as a necessary evil?
00:35:32.480 Yes.
00:35:33.020 Uh, Inky was probably, okay.
00:35:35.460 So you're right.
00:35:36.880 It, it is a title there.
00:35:38.600 And this is in my opinion, uh, there is not one Satan, right?
00:35:43.980 Ha Satan, Satan, whatever you want to call them by.
00:35:46.920 Um, it's, it's a title or an archetype that's passed down and you see it in, in these stories
00:35:53.500 passed down through, through these, through these deities, particularly on Inky side.
00:35:58.000 Right.
00:35:59.420 Um, and, and so, yeah, it, it basically, it passes down from Inky to Marduk from, from him
00:36:08.240 to his son, uh, set, and then you have Semyaza thrown in the mix, who's basically one of these
00:36:14.700 lesser angels where you could consider, uh, fallen cherubim, right?
00:36:19.360 Um, and that's, that's a whole, the whole story in itself, to be honest with you, because
00:36:24.860 you have certain gods, gods, uh, in certain parts of the world being, all being worshiped
00:36:31.180 in these, in these different cultures.
00:36:32.780 But it, when you look at it from, from this angle, it's like, uh, they're all kind of
00:36:36.700 fighting for power amongst each other, like a family feud of some sort.
00:36:41.420 Right.
00:36:41.580 And so, um, yeah, Inky side is, is more of the, uh, dualistic kind of, um, he is the
00:36:50.400 serpent in the garden, right?
00:36:53.000 Yeah.
00:36:54.120 Yeah.
00:36:54.280 Interesting.
00:36:55.080 Yeah.
00:36:55.520 And when you look at a lot of them are like the gods of the earth, the gods of the water,
00:36:59.340 where do serpents roam on the ground?
00:37:02.000 Right.
00:37:02.780 Um, even with these ancient monsters, you find like lion faced dragons that they talk
00:37:08.860 about.
00:37:09.480 Yes.
00:37:10.060 Um, yeah.
00:37:11.260 Yeah.
00:37:11.440 That's actually something that we were talking about recently because within the Gnostic belief
00:37:15.100 system, they depict God as, yeah, it's what, what's the name of it?
00:37:20.200 Y'all the boa.
00:37:21.260 Y'all the boa.
00:37:21.980 And I believe that's actually the same entity that homeboy would have saw in our Jerry Marzinski
00:37:26.060 episode, uh, with the, um, uh, mechanical engineer who overcame schizophrenia, but did have
00:37:32.560 a vision, um, of this entity coming out of a portal.
00:37:35.960 So, uh, yeah, there's, there's no shortage of like serpentine body lion head, uh, kind
00:37:41.360 of situations within this spiritual realm when it comes to these entities.
00:37:45.580 Yeah.
00:37:46.100 Yeah, man.
00:37:46.540 Um, and the Gnostic text, dude, that's, that's something else that you're, you know, that
00:37:52.100 you can get into and you can also kind of relate the aeons, right?
00:37:57.600 Which are under the archons, I think, uh, to the fallen angels that came in, uh, that came
00:38:03.680 in Genesis six.
00:38:05.560 Right.
00:38:06.560 Um, but most people don't know that there were two falls, but when you look at the Sumerian
00:38:12.480 story, you do find that Enki arrived first.
00:38:17.800 Right.
00:38:18.800 Uh, but something that I don't really agree with is it's told that he created us.
00:38:27.180 Hmm.
00:38:28.100 Um, right.
00:38:28.740 I think we were already here and then they came and they created other races, right?
00:38:34.300 Right.
00:38:35.560 Uh, and manipulated DNA fall, fallen angel, uh, DNA tinkering, uh, because it talks about
00:38:43.260 this and that's how the Nephilim were created, which happened in the second fall when Marduk
00:38:48.240 basically decided, Hey, I'm tired of being up here stationed on Mars.
00:38:52.240 Um, because in the Anunnaki story, let's, let's go ahead and talk about this.
00:38:56.200 Um, their planet was dying, right?
00:39:00.360 Right.
00:39:00.900 Nibiru, um, which I often look at as another dimension, maybe.
00:39:04.880 Hmm.
00:39:06.140 Yeah.
00:39:06.400 And so to keep themselves from like aging rapidly, uh, growing tall, or I, I guess from not growing
00:39:17.240 tall, they had to shoot mana atomic gold into the atmosphere.
00:39:22.740 And some people have related mana, like, you know, the mana from heaven to the atomic.
00:39:28.240 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:29.040 Yeah.
00:39:29.120 There's, uh, some of that right there.
00:39:32.200 And they would shoot it into the atmosphere.
00:39:34.300 They grind it up.
00:39:35.440 Um, uh, I, I, I trying to remember what it was called.
00:39:39.820 Um, there's another name for it, but maybe, maybe it'll come to me.
00:39:45.820 Um, and so they were running out of that and they basically, um, found that, well, okay.
00:39:53.080 So the story goes, there was an egg, an exiled king of Nibiru who fought King Anu, the father
00:39:59.920 of Enki and Enlil.
00:40:01.900 And, uh, I don't know if this was symbolic or not, but he ended up fighting off Anu's
00:40:07.320 penis.
00:40:08.280 Oh, sick.
00:40:09.220 Manhood.
00:40:09.580 Yeah.
00:40:10.140 They, so there's these ancient wrestling matches that they used to have, uh, to gain kingship
00:40:15.020 over one another.
00:40:16.060 They'd get naked, kind of gay, uh, and they, and they would wrestle each other.
00:40:20.320 And, uh, so Alelu, who a lot of, uh, researchers have kind of, uh, connected him to the face
00:40:30.380 on Mars.
00:40:31.520 Oh, interesting.
00:40:32.880 Yeah.
00:40:33.680 Yeah.
00:40:34.280 Yeah.
00:40:34.560 Yeah.
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00:42:08.420 He sends out a message to them.
00:42:11.520 Now, this could be through telepathy.
00:42:14.420 This could be if they had, I mean, if you're an ancient being and you have knowledge that's
00:42:19.580 otherworldly or from another dimension, maybe you could create some kind of radio, right?
00:42:25.180 Okay.
00:42:25.400 I don't know.
00:42:25.780 Some kind of ancient Apple watch maybe.
00:42:27.640 I don't know.
00:42:28.080 Basically telling Enki, like, hey, there's gold here on this planet.
00:42:32.760 It's plentiful.
00:42:35.560 And so they arrive and you see the similarities and all these, like you have the Atrahasis,
00:42:42.600 right?
00:42:42.840 Which is the flood epic.
00:42:44.360 You have Enki in the world order, that cuneiform tablet, which is basically the arrival of
00:42:50.300 Samael and his fallen to earth to mine this gold.
00:42:54.760 And they basically create these lesser Anunnaki called the Ajiji.
00:42:59.800 Can I ask you something real quick?
00:43:01.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:01.900 So you're saying who showed up first?
00:43:03.800 Enki?
00:43:04.580 Well, it was this guy, Alelu, whose daughter was married to Enki.
00:43:10.580 So they had some like father-in-law, son-in-law bond, right?
00:43:14.100 So that's why he hit Enki up.
00:43:15.540 He's like, yo, what up?
00:43:17.900 Come on down here, you know?
00:43:19.780 Right.
00:43:20.080 Um, and he ends up basically being exiled from earth to Mars where he dies.
00:43:28.360 And that's where that supposed face on Mars comes from.
00:43:32.260 That's just a theory, you know?
00:43:33.300 I just feel like it's interesting that Elon has this obsession with Mars, right?
00:43:39.540 And I know the book from Wernher von Braun and the guy, Elon, who's colonizing Mars.
00:43:44.000 But, you know, it's Elon, El-On, right?
00:43:48.980 And you look at that with Enki and it's like, starts with an E, four letters, right?
00:43:53.960 Like there may be something there.
00:43:55.760 And even, and I talked with Jose about this on his morning show, the Keck deity, right?
00:44:01.340 Yeah, the Egyptian deity of chaos, the frog deity.
00:44:04.540 Which is also related to Osiris, the archetypal green man.
00:44:09.800 I'd say probably the first one, him and Pata.
00:44:13.160 Pata also being Enki, right?
00:44:16.580 Who, when, when you look into what they looked like, they were green.
00:44:21.320 And this is where like Yoda comes from because of the Jed pillar, the Jed eyes, right?
00:44:28.760 Very interesting stuff because you see the green man a lot and people probably like, oh, that's
00:44:33.240 just a frog, but like you got Kermit, you got Yoda, you got the Grinch, you have a lot
00:44:38.160 of, you know, forms of entertainment that you see out there and they're putting this green
00:44:42.420 man in front of you.
00:44:43.460 And the green man was sacrificed too and a lot of, and a lot of pagan mysteries, right?
00:44:49.160 So you see this throughout time, but Osiris basically being Osiris, he was a, I guess a
00:44:59.380 child of two bloodlines.
00:45:00.560 So when you get further into this, and this is what my co-host Adrian, a lot of his research
00:45:08.100 has come to, one side of the Anunnaki comes from the Orion star cluster, the other coming
00:45:14.840 from Sirius, the dog star.
00:45:17.160 And you see the dog symbolism a lot, especially with the, what was it?
00:45:23.440 The Erdemu, which means gruesome hound or howling dog, which I interpret to be the first dog
00:45:30.940 man.
00:45:31.980 That's where my brain started going.
00:45:33.820 What was the other star?
00:45:36.860 Oh, are you talking about the Orion star cluster?
00:45:39.720 Yeah.
00:45:39.980 Yeah.
00:45:40.120 What did that represent?
00:45:40.900 That represented basically Inky side.
00:45:45.160 And through my co-host's research and his co-author, who he, he writes his books with, shout out
00:45:51.600 Adrian.
00:45:51.920 Um, he basically came to a conclusion that Inky was reptilian.
00:45:58.360 He was born of an egg birth called parthenogenesis, which is basically like an asexual reproduction.
00:46:04.920 Um, coming from the Pleiadian queen, who was a reptilian, uh, and this where it gets kind of
00:46:12.720 out there guys.
00:46:13.540 So stay with me, uh, named Maka, right?
00:46:17.220 Which, uh, which is, we know that's what the month of May is named after.
00:46:21.420 Um, and she kind of had this, uh, royal tie to Anu.
00:46:28.500 Like they had to have a child.
00:46:31.540 Um, now her just basically having an egg birth because she's, she's a reptilian.
00:46:37.200 If, if that is.
00:46:38.160 So she's got a cloaca.
00:46:39.140 Very cool.
00:46:40.340 Yeah.
00:46:41.040 Um.
00:46:41.720 How'd that feel?
00:46:42.720 That clo, that clo lussie.
00:46:44.980 Um, but, uh, you know, they, they, uh, Anu raised Inky.
00:46:51.680 So it like, wasn't really his son, but he raised him like his son.
00:46:55.600 So Inky and Enlil weren't brothers.
00:46:57.680 They were stepbrothers.
00:46:59.340 And that's where the clash comes in.
00:47:01.960 One of them is like, I want to rule this.
00:47:04.440 And he's like, no, I'm the son of Anu.
00:47:07.200 Like, you know, his actual seed, I'm going to rule.
00:47:10.720 And then their, their children fight over it.
00:47:13.540 Um, the lion king, right?
00:47:16.040 It does a great job of laying out.
00:47:17.940 Like once again, everything is about genetics.
00:47:20.360 Everything is about a seed.
00:47:21.960 Yeah.
00:47:22.640 Yeah.
00:47:23.460 Um, what you do with that seed is on you, you know?
00:47:25.920 Right.
00:47:26.660 But, um, you need to drink it to get the knowledge.
00:47:29.680 How's that?
00:47:30.340 20%.
00:47:30.980 So, okay.
00:47:35.620 Yeah, this is, um, I mean, so much of these things have, have overlap.
00:47:40.120 And, and what's really important to highlight here is like, you know, the only real beef
00:47:45.200 that I have with, um, like a Billy Carson type of character.
00:47:49.840 And like you mentioned earlier, Jules, there's a lot of people who kind of take this route
00:47:53.820 is that, um, these things are number one, our creator and number two, the Bible's wrong.
00:48:01.540 And it's like, I don't even know how you could say that when the overlap is tremendous.
00:48:05.380 It's like to say the Bible is wrong is to say that the vast majority of your own research
00:48:10.380 that you're championing is wrong because the overlap, like I said, is tremendous.
00:48:13.380 So, um, but it does feel like, and I know we're going to get into more, but it just feels
00:48:19.780 like the, the name of the game is very simple.
00:48:21.660 It's like, um, there is God, the creator, the father, and then there are these, um, these
00:48:30.580 rebellious creations.
00:48:32.480 And what they've done is they've just split themselves into two groups, one good, one bad,
00:48:38.320 and then said that they created us.
00:48:39.940 So now we, we, they have us rooting for them and also they've lied to us fundamentally about
00:48:44.580 the nature of how we came to be.
00:48:46.640 Yeah.
00:48:47.760 Yeah, man.
00:48:48.520 Um, and, and that's why I, I was saying like, you kind of have to watch out with this stuff
00:48:53.600 because, uh, yeah, there are a lot of people that probably research it and they're like,
00:48:57.620 oh, well this makes sense.
00:48:58.620 Right.
00:48:58.940 They don't dive any, any further deeper.
00:49:01.280 They, they don't question it at all.
00:49:03.020 Um, but once I had a, you know, once, once you develop that connection with, with the Holy
00:49:08.780 spirit, with Christ, whatever you want to call it, uh, Christ consciousness, you know,
00:49:12.480 what, um, I don't know.
00:49:14.920 It's something you can't really, you can't really deny.
00:49:18.220 Right.
00:49:18.680 Yeah.
00:49:18.940 Um, and so I, I do take those stories with a grain of salt.
00:49:23.480 Uh, however, when you read these other stories, it's like, okay, well the deities are there,
00:49:28.800 you know, they're all fallen.
00:49:31.740 Regardless, they're all fallen.
00:49:33.060 If you want to worship them, that that's on you.
00:49:35.240 But in my opinion, they're all fallen.
00:49:37.160 They're all, uh, part of the oftenum seraphim cherubim that, uh, lost touch with, with the
00:49:45.220 creator and rebelled, um, at the same time creating offspring who would then create other
00:49:53.540 offspring and so on and so forth.
00:49:56.140 Um, and so you have these different generations of fallen and, uh, dude, I mean, like I said
00:50:02.760 earlier, many interpretations of these stories as well as like, uh, people like to correlate,
00:50:10.680 uh, for instance, what's a good, it's a good example.
00:50:13.760 Tammuz, Damuzi, who is Inki's youngest son.
00:50:19.300 Uh, people like to relate him to Nimrod and then to Shamash.
00:50:26.300 That's three different deities completely, in my opinion, uh, Nimrod or Gilgamesh, uh,
00:50:34.140 being a, uh, another son of Inki.
00:50:35.940 Cause one thing you do see in these stories is Inki is sticking his dick into absolutely
00:50:39.840 everything.
00:50:42.060 Um, yeah, dude, I, uh, what says he poured his seed, right?
00:50:47.460 Yeah.
00:50:47.820 Um, yeah.
00:50:49.260 And like it flowed like the river or, or something.
00:50:52.160 This dude just nutting rivers.
00:50:54.240 Yeah.
00:50:54.680 Well, lots of seed.
00:50:56.140 He, he would, uh, find like young women.
00:51:00.000 I don't know how young, so don't, you know, we're not going to go there, but, and, and
00:51:05.560 yeah, he would just, Oh, I like this one.
00:51:07.260 And his like visiers would be like, yes, master, go for it.
00:51:10.640 You know?
00:51:11.780 Um, there's something that I, I, I kind of wanted to go back to.
00:51:15.060 Uh, I'm sorry.
00:51:15.880 I know I keep derailing you, but I probably started the show off.
00:51:18.960 Y'all asked me to get into it and I just fucking nosedive right down.
00:51:22.660 Right, right, right, right.
00:51:23.480 Well, it's a hard, it's a hard thing to, to ease yourself into, right?
00:51:27.660 It's such a vast pool of information.
00:51:29.680 So we have to kind of trust that the audience has some sort of grounding and then take it
00:51:33.800 from there.
00:51:34.220 But I'm trying to pick my spots of asking questions because I've had a lot on my mind
00:51:38.640 this morning.
00:51:39.140 And so now I've just kind of dumped it on y'all.
00:51:41.200 So if you, if you need me to go back and talk about anything, if you have any questions
00:51:44.820 about like what deities, I mean, I have, are, are we, uh, are we just on Patreon right
00:51:50.500 now?
00:51:50.620 Right now we're just on Patreon.
00:51:51.860 Yeah.
00:51:52.120 Well, I have my, my, my Pantheon journals right here.
00:51:55.820 Wow.
00:51:56.180 Look at that.
00:51:56.640 Yeah.
00:51:56.900 Man action, dude.
00:51:57.660 It's notes.
00:51:58.540 Incredible.
00:51:59.100 Tons of stuff.
00:52:00.020 Someone's going to find that in like a hundred years and be like, what the fuck is this guy
00:52:03.280 talking about?
00:52:03.860 Now I'm a barrier somewhere.
00:52:06.120 So, so check this out.
00:52:07.320 You, you mentioned before, uh, three things that I think are relevant here.
00:52:10.820 You mentioned, um, Orion, right.
00:52:13.720 And then one sect of these entities coming from there.
00:52:16.840 And then you mentioned Sirius, the other sect coming from there.
00:52:19.640 We also mentioned Nibiru.
00:52:21.520 Um, and this, this brings into question the idea of like space and, and the nature of it
00:52:26.340 actually.
00:52:26.760 So going back to Sumer, I believe that they actually had depictions, hieroglyphics of,
00:52:32.580 um, the solar system and, and it was in such a way, this is something that I became aware
00:52:38.000 of when I was younger and I was kind of into the whole Anunnaki thing.
00:52:41.060 And that was very striking to me that this ancient civilization would have had an accurate
00:52:45.300 depiction of our solar system, but it did include, um, an additional celestial body that
00:52:51.600 I think now we would have identified as Nibiru according to their, um, mythology.
00:52:57.660 And so for, I guess the layman, the idea is that Nibiru was sort of this planet that is
00:53:03.840 on an elliptical orbit, meaning it's not a circle, it's an oval and, um, and it's orbit
00:53:09.740 takes thousands of years to complete.
00:53:12.120 And so what happens is 3,600 years, 3,600 years, one char, um, which, which ties, which
00:53:19.520 ties into a lot, but right.
00:53:21.480 So the idea is that this thing spends a time passing through our solar system, causing all
00:53:27.560 kinds of havoc, bringing these entities closer to ours, obviously introducing a celestial
00:53:31.580 body into our mix up will cause all sorts of geomagnetic, you know, pole shifts was kind
00:53:36.940 of the theory, right?
00:53:37.680 We're going to have a magnetic pole shift because of this planet's entry into our, um, proximity.
00:53:42.200 But then on the other end of this 36 year process, it's very far from us.
00:53:47.860 And allegedly it's blocked, uh, from our telescopes by our own sun.
00:53:52.500 Um, and then there's all this speculation about what it actually is.
00:53:55.160 Is it a brown dwarf?
00:53:56.220 Is it a, is it, do we have a binary star system?
00:53:58.700 Yada, yada, yada, whatever.
00:54:00.280 Doesn't matter.
00:54:00.900 Let's go on to the Orion's belt thing.
00:54:02.800 You have the great pyramids.
00:54:04.120 They are clearly mirroring, um, Orion's belt.
00:54:08.060 Uh, and so it's this, this megalithic structure that's pointing to this, um, this astrological,
00:54:14.720 um, you know, uh, system.
00:54:17.860 And then of course you have the, the serious thing, right?
00:54:20.700 Where these other entities claim to be from, and it starts to beg a lot of questions because
00:54:26.200 we know that NASA lies a lot and I'm open to the idea that just because, you know, look
00:54:35.120 at ancient Sumerians, how did they know this?
00:54:37.080 How were they able to depict this solar system?
00:54:39.000 Well, they were, they were told they didn't have the ability to see them themselves.
00:54:42.440 Maybe they were granted some sort of technology, but the name of the game from these entities
00:54:47.080 is deception.
00:54:48.220 So now I'm entertaining the idea.
00:54:50.060 Are they deceiving these people?
00:54:51.320 Are they planting these seeds very early in humanity's development so that even the ancient
00:54:55.980 civilizations have an idea of our solar system?
00:54:59.820 Because I believe that in many ways, NASA is also designed to lie to us about the nature
00:55:04.600 of space so that it can trick us about the nature of the entities.
00:55:08.460 So this is all very complicated.
00:55:11.120 On one hand, I want to give credence to the ancient depictions of the stars and how accurate
00:55:17.400 they are.
00:55:18.160 But on the other, I also recognize that NASA is lying, you know, to a grandiose scale.
00:55:25.020 And you said that maybe the idea of Nibiru is actually a portal.
00:55:29.160 So can we talk about that a little bit?
00:55:30.680 I mean, what do you think these things are actually coming from?
00:55:33.760 Do you think they're coming from someplace far away or is this an interdimensional thing?
00:55:37.440 Yeah, man, maybe.
00:55:41.580 OK, so, for instance, you said that 36.
00:55:45.280 Well, I had mentioned it was 3,600 years.
00:55:48.920 Here is one year on Nibiru.
00:55:51.340 So so it says.
00:55:52.880 Right.
00:55:54.540 And so maybe there is a portal.
00:55:57.620 Now, it really depends on what you believe.
00:55:59.580 If you believe in if this is a realm, if this is a globe Earth with space or flat Earth with
00:56:08.960 a dome, right, they got to be coming from somewhere outside of this dimension, regardless.
00:56:15.880 Now, I don't know, because you see their descriptions in these texts of these these winged birds, right?
00:56:30.980 These giant birds that that they it's says they fly in.
00:56:35.280 But like I was saying earlier, this may just be a description of a light body, right, or
00:56:43.520 an opening.
00:56:44.220 Because when when you look a little further on, like in certain depictions, Uranus, you
00:56:50.420 see these pictures of them with these star portals.
00:56:53.260 Right.
00:56:53.680 And we've heard about like ancient star portals in Iran, which we know is the Fertile Crescent,
00:56:59.160 old Mesopotamia, which is there's a theory that that's one of the reasons that we went to war.
00:57:04.920 With, you know, with Iraq and all that stuff, because Saddam had star portals there that
00:57:11.400 I think they were trying to bring some of these deities back through.
00:57:17.340 I think these if if if these certain entities were here and they left a long time ago, they
00:57:24.340 would come back to check in.
00:57:26.380 If not all, I think there's still some here.
00:57:29.900 A few of them that have been worshipped over the last couple thousand years.
00:57:37.720 Right.
00:57:39.800 And I think that's one of the reasons that Christ came.
00:57:43.560 Um, because there are theories.
00:57:49.120 This is a theory, mind you.
00:57:52.260 Um.
00:57:54.060 That he incarnated.
00:57:57.760 Earlier on, right through all these other.
00:58:02.460 Entities.
00:58:03.340 Um, the Christed beings in all these old mystery schools.
00:58:08.740 Hmm.
00:58:09.040 Um.
00:58:10.300 But that Jesus Christ was his final incarnation.
00:58:15.420 And that, uh.
00:58:17.400 You know, I think all these other mystery religions may be kind of copied from the story of Christ.
00:58:25.700 And maybe it's been subverted in some way.
00:58:27.880 Like you said, uh, are they planting seeds from the very beginning to deceive us?
00:58:33.280 I think that that could be the case.
00:58:35.600 Right.
00:58:36.800 Um.
00:58:38.840 I kind of.
00:58:41.380 I kind of, uh, look more into.
00:58:43.960 I guess how we are worshipping these deities without even knowing it.
00:58:50.380 Hmm.
00:58:50.580 Through our stuff, the stuff that folks do at every day, uh, which y'all call Nephilim shit.
00:58:58.460 Right.
00:58:59.900 Um.
00:59:01.620 Yeah, man, there's, there's a lot of theories and there's some stuff that I'm still doing research on that I'm still kind of diving down.
00:59:08.240 Uh, making more, uh, making more connections with the Bible.
00:59:13.760 Um.
00:59:15.480 But yeah, dude.
00:59:17.500 I mean.
00:59:18.320 I forgot what I was going to say.
00:59:24.360 Forgive me.
00:59:25.060 Well, I was going to mention because of what you were just saying that, you know, this idea that some of them are left behind still.
00:59:33.580 I mean, throughout the Bible, it seems that like different entities are relegated to different punishments, different places.
00:59:41.660 Right.
00:59:41.960 Like there's not just the bottomless pit.
00:59:44.460 Right.
00:59:44.720 Or there's not just like the lake of fire.
00:59:46.320 If you read the book of Enoch, it seems that there's multiple places.
00:59:48.760 Even the idea that there are angels, um, underneath the, uh, what's that river in Africa that is drying up, uh, you've read, um, man, why am I losing the Euphrates river?
01:00:04.100 Right.
01:00:04.280 So, so we already have precedent for a lot of these entities being in different locations, um, whether they're here on earth or in our realm or some other place that we don't have access to.
01:00:16.020 Uh, but in the book of Enoch, when the archangels were flying Enoch around, he took note of like several different, um, disturbing places that he was asking these angels, like, what in the hell is that place?
01:00:29.560 What's that place?
01:00:30.560 And so, uh, you know, we have been uncovering here on, on Nephilim death squad, uh, this idea that something is going on in Indiana, which there is even books to back that idea.
01:00:43.620 I know there are works of fiction, but I was recently made aware of a book called angelology that claims that, um, one of the places that these entities reside in underground, uh, Nephilim and fallen angels, which is the language that the book uses is Indiana.
01:00:57.100 And of course, stranger things takes place in Indiana.
01:01:00.540 Now stranger things, it happens in a different realm though, in the upside down.
01:01:05.440 And I would argue that many of the experiences people are having in Indiana, where they are meeting ball, interestingly enough, right.
01:01:14.400 Which is, um, an old would, I don't know if Sumer would be the first instance of the usage of, of the word ball, but yeah.
01:01:23.380 And I'm also coming to show them comes, comes from bell, uh, which comes from bellu, which means Lord.
01:01:30.140 Um, so ball would just mean probably like the Lord.
01:01:34.180 Right. Like almost like King, right. Interchangeable with King.
01:01:37.280 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And that to me feels a lot like Satan.
01:01:41.460 So Satan being the accuser ball being Lord or King, um, in the same way that there have been many Satans, I imagine there have been many balls as well.
01:01:51.600 So whoever people are getting recruited by, it's more or less like he's saying, call me King as, as a way of identifying himself, this entity, but we don't know which one it is actually.
01:02:04.180 Right. As far as like, is it as a Zayzel? Is it, you know, X, Y, and Z?
01:02:07.920 Well, yeah, you actually hit, hit the nail on the head with that one. It is a Zayzel.
01:02:12.340 Um, when you look at a Zayzel, he is the first of the second fall.
01:02:18.120 Uh, this correlates directly to Enki's oldest son, Marduk.
01:02:23.380 Now, when you look at the Sumerian story, Marduk was cast aside.
01:02:27.900 He was used as the scapegoat, which that's what a Zayzel means is the scapegoat.
01:02:32.620 Um, and he basically, this is Bell in the Bible.
01:02:38.560 This is the Bell that you see in Isaiah, um, whose son is Nebo, Nabu, right?
01:02:45.680 Um, you see him, he is basically their adversary because, you know, Satan means adversary.
01:02:51.880 Um, he is the adversary of the Anunnaki.
01:02:56.680 He is the one who, he kills his youngest brother, Tammuz, right?
01:03:00.600 Because he's jealous of him and Inanna's relationship.
01:03:03.900 Now, they shouldn't have had that relationship because they're cousins, right?
01:03:07.220 Uh, I mean, if you're into that, you're into that.
01:03:10.020 But, uh, yeah, he is kind of put out there as this Satan figure.
01:03:15.700 And you see it with his son, Set, with, uh, his butt buddy, uh, Semyaza or Shamgaz.
01:03:24.400 That was his name in Sumeria.
01:03:26.540 Uh, and like I said, uh, folks kind of need to do their own research if they're interested
01:03:32.700 because my interpretations may be wrong, right?
01:03:36.420 Um, I'm just kind of going on what I know and putting together different texts that I've
01:03:41.340 read.
01:03:41.540 Um, and like, I don't want to lead anyone away from what, what would be Christ, right?
01:03:48.500 Uh, but I, I have kind of driven myself crazy with this stuff sometimes.
01:03:52.620 That's why my mind goes blank.
01:03:54.040 Um, you know, I have to question a lot, right?
01:03:59.620 But there's some things that you, you just know to be true.
01:04:04.380 And, uh, I've said this a lot recently, like just because folks have read the Bible or they
01:04:10.400 go to church every week, doesn't mean that they're in tune with that spirit, right?
01:04:14.600 Most people will not, I wouldn't say most.
01:04:17.360 Uh, but there's a lot of, especially down here in the South too, if like all the Southern
01:04:21.240 Baptist churches and stuff, like there's some people there that are going there and just
01:04:25.880 like are shitty, you know, um, we ended up going to a non-denominational church that
01:04:30.960 works out better than anything.
01:04:32.220 Um, but like they have the flag, they had the Israeli flag up in there and I'm like,
01:04:36.960 Hey, you don't know that's the hexagram of Solomon, right?
01:04:40.960 Like that, that was used to build Solomon's temple, which is where Freemasonry stems from.
01:04:46.180 Um, we had a little bit of that on our show where, um, we were talking to somebody and,
01:04:51.100 and it was a great episode up until we speculated as to whether or not the star of David was
01:04:56.200 really the seal of Solomon or, um, or the star of Remfam.
01:05:00.460 And, uh, he didn't like that.
01:05:02.780 He got a little upset at that.
01:05:04.800 Really?
01:05:05.060 Um, yeah, you know, it is what it is.
01:05:07.160 It's not in the Galatia and the lesser keys of Solomon and see right there.
01:05:12.740 Hey, this is the hexagram of Solomon.
01:05:15.400 This is a hex sign.
01:05:17.020 Right.
01:05:17.400 Um, the thing is, is that, uh, we, by like bringing that up, we are, uh, cutting off his
01:05:24.420 entire ideology at the knees, at least his political ideology.
01:05:27.720 It's boomer shit, you know, it is boomer shit.
01:05:30.580 Yeah.
01:05:30.720 They, they really do, um, love that.
01:05:32.920 You know what, what this reminds me of though, especially this conversation about titles.
01:05:38.320 There's a really famous interview, Bob Dylan, I think, um, where the interviewer, it's like
01:05:43.840 60 minutes or something.
01:05:44.760 And the guy saying, why are you still doing this all these years later?
01:05:49.440 You're so old.
01:05:50.060 You have enough money.
01:05:51.260 Surely you can retire.
01:05:52.320 And I'm paraphrasing, but he says, well, it all goes down to that deal that I made and
01:05:58.060 I've got to make good on my end of the deal.
01:06:00.720 And he goes deal with who?
01:06:03.120 And he goes, uh, with the, I think he uses the expression commander in chief of this realm
01:06:09.540 and a realm that we can't see, which is interesting because that also goes back to top.
01:06:14.960 Who were we having a conversation with?
01:06:16.360 Might've been Jay Dyer talking about a guy who was for research purposes, delving deep
01:06:23.260 into LSD.
01:06:24.820 I think back in the seventies and consistently coming in contact with an entity that identified
01:06:30.660 itself as Moloch.
01:06:31.880 This is before Moloch was mainstream conspiracy, you know, especially without the internet back
01:06:38.620 then that's, uh, whispers of an entity, you know, in, in really strange.
01:06:44.400 I don't even know who's having those conversations back in the seventies and where they're having
01:06:47.440 them at.
01:06:47.840 I would love to be a fly on the wall for what conspiracy theorists used to look like, but,
01:06:52.060 um, and that entity told him that one day he would be the King of, I guess, the West
01:06:59.460 more or less.
01:07:00.680 And so if chief is a title, if fall is a title of Satan is a title, and there's all these
01:07:07.880 entities that seem to be passing it back and forth.
01:07:10.460 I think that really is an important distinction to draw when looking at, cause there's a very
01:07:15.400 reductive point of view.
01:07:16.480 Uh, you know, Jules, you're talking about how this is beyond the grasp of a lot of like,
01:07:22.060 let's say Southern Baptists.
01:07:23.200 Right.
01:07:23.680 Um, and so they're not armed with this in-depth information, which I don't think you need to
01:07:28.120 be saved, or I don't think you need to know this in order to be saved.
01:07:31.120 You just have to believe that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life and repent
01:07:35.700 and through him is the father.
01:07:37.400 Right.
01:07:37.700 So it's, it's a, it's a simple thing.
01:07:39.680 The belief being the core function here, but there is so much, I guess, um, not to say
01:07:47.700 that I'm right, but if I am, there's a lot of misunderstanding going on here about the
01:07:53.520 nature of these entities.
01:07:54.360 We have one dude with a pitchfork who's made of red skin and he's got horns and a flickery
01:08:00.560 tail.
01:08:00.940 Right.
01:08:01.360 And that's Satan.
01:08:02.180 And it's like, actually it's infinitely more complicated than that.
01:08:06.840 And there are a lot of people, there are systems, King, chief, yada, yada, right?
01:08:12.980 Colonel.
01:08:13.360 I don't know, like an army.
01:08:15.040 And why wouldn't there be?
01:08:16.480 Because how are we capable of creating those systems?
01:08:18.740 But, but these entities wouldn't.
01:08:22.120 Right.
01:08:22.520 Yeah, dude.
01:08:23.240 Um, well, funny thing about that with the horns, uh, that does go back to Enki and his
01:08:30.360 whole side being depicted with horns.
01:08:33.160 Now, I don't know if that's just because in the Sumerian lore, you know, they are kind
01:08:39.360 of put, you know, as the serpent or the adversary.
01:08:43.000 And so they are depicted with those horns.
01:08:45.280 It may be symbolic because you have some depictions of Moses with horns.
01:08:49.360 Right.
01:08:50.320 And, uh, him coming from Egypt, Egypt being the land of Kim, where else do we see that
01:08:55.820 word in alchemy?
01:08:57.200 Right.
01:08:58.100 There's theories of Moses being an alchemist, like the first OG alchemist.
01:09:03.280 Now, is, is that true?
01:09:04.700 I don't know.
01:09:05.780 But I mean, it's something that you could look into.
01:09:08.420 Uh, and you see that symbolism a lot.
01:09:10.380 And you know, guys, that's, that's why I had the Elohim etymology and each episode is focused
01:09:16.060 on a certain deity.
01:09:16.980 Because when you start to talk about all of them, as y'all saw earlier, you kind of like,
01:09:21.640 you're like, oh shit.
01:09:22.680 Okay.
01:09:23.000 Uh, where, where am I now?
01:09:24.980 Um, but you can see which deities are being worshiped today through the symbolism, a lot
01:09:32.640 of symbolism that these celebrities put out there.
01:09:35.580 Um, Ishtar, for instance, the, uh, the feminine aspect, Venus, the, the original Lucifer archetype.
01:09:43.940 Um, and people are like, oh, Lucifer being a female.
01:09:46.940 And it's like, yeah, with the dual, yeah, dude, with the dualism, you have the feminine
01:09:51.980 and masculine, uh, aspects of it as well.
01:09:54.900 Uh, your eye of Horus, your eye of Ra, all that stuff, uh, Horus and Ra being grandsons
01:10:01.780 of Enki.
01:10:02.560 So it says in, in the Sumerian stuff and, and, um, well, Ra relating more to Marduk, I guess
01:10:09.060 you could say Horus and Osiris, um, as, as, as well as set.
01:10:15.400 But that story in itself.
01:10:17.540 So then when you think about it, you're like, damn, the Egyptians were worshiping just this
01:10:20.920 one sect of, of, of the fallen.
01:10:23.860 Right.
01:10:24.040 Now there's some interpretations that Yahweh, Jehovah is in Leal and the archangels are his
01:10:34.080 sons.
01:10:34.440 Now that, that may not be so bad.
01:10:37.860 So what if they are actually like trying, like they're fighting against Enki, like, you
01:10:44.040 know, fucking earth women and all this stuff, his, his kids like dabbling and magic and
01:10:49.980 teaching humans, all this other stuff.
01:10:51.640 What if they're trying to put a stop to it?
01:10:53.620 And like, they are emissaries from the creator.
01:10:56.960 Right.
01:10:57.440 Um, you know, uh, just on that point, the way that I've remedied that in my own, um,
01:11:03.440 communications with God is I, I referenced God as the father, the father that Jesus Christ
01:11:07.780 is talking about specifically, because I've seen enough anecdotal evidence for what you
01:11:14.220 just said.
01:11:14.740 Yahweh being like, you know, this other negative entity that I'm like, okay.
01:11:18.940 He, he, he is in the Canaanite pantheon and stuff like that.
01:11:22.200 Right.
01:11:22.660 Um, and so maybe Yahweh is like a title or maybe they've hijacked the name and taken a
01:11:29.960 couple like, uh, vowels out, change it around a little bit because there's a lot of different
01:11:36.340 translations for these names.
01:11:38.540 Yahweh, uh, kind of like with Jesus, Yeshua, Yeshua.
01:11:43.020 Right.
01:11:43.420 Um, yeah, yeah.
01:11:44.760 So, I mean, it's just, well, like I said, grain of salt guys.
01:11:48.880 It's, it's interesting.
01:11:49.680 Cause I, uh, with that, that Bob Dylan interview that you always, uh, bringing up.
01:11:53.600 So he's talking to Ed Bradley and the exact quote is, uh, it goes back to that deal I made
01:11:58.420 with the chief commander in this, uh, in this world and the one we can't see.
01:12:03.520 So can I just say my ability to paraphrase that was like fucking 95%.
01:12:07.880 Yeah.
01:12:08.560 You missed chief commander, which is it.
01:12:10.180 No, I said chief commander.
01:12:11.400 I said it, dude.
01:12:12.500 Fuck yeah.
01:12:12.840 I just didn't say, I said in this world, in a world we can't see is what I said.
01:12:16.620 Yeah.
01:12:17.280 Right.
01:12:17.580 Right.
01:12:17.740 Yeah.
01:12:18.200 It's, it's interesting though.
01:12:19.200 Cause it's like, you're calling on, uh, the most high or you're using these names,
01:12:23.560 but he's saying chief commander.
01:12:25.300 What the hell does that mean?
01:12:27.920 Satan is in charge of this world, right?
01:12:30.740 Like God, basically when he cast Satan down, I, I think, uh, this was done on the fallen's
01:12:36.560 own accord.
01:12:37.120 They chose to fall.
01:12:38.880 They knew what they were doing coming down here.
01:12:41.060 Uh, fucking earth women and animals.
01:12:43.580 And some people could interpret that as like science experiments.
01:12:47.840 Cause Inky new to mud, meaning the artful fashioner, uh, that could be like, he was also
01:12:54.960 known as the scientist.
01:12:56.120 Who else do we know as the scientist?
01:12:58.460 Yaku, right?
01:13:00.400 Shit.
01:13:01.260 Yeah.
01:13:01.460 Oh, that's interesting.
01:13:06.860 His origins being in South Africa, right?
01:13:10.200 Um, a redo, Eridu.
01:13:14.180 I did.
01:13:14.420 There's, there's a few ways that you could say it.
01:13:16.420 Um, yeah.
01:13:18.360 Yeah.
01:13:18.800 And creating different hybrids of people.
01:13:21.800 Right now, not to say that we are all, we all come from that.
01:13:25.600 Uh, I, I would argue that not every race is the same, but we won't get into that.
01:13:32.780 I actually want to, uh, so I want to ask you a question.
01:13:35.280 Um, yeah, what's up?
01:13:36.620 Where are you at on like pre pre Adamite men?
01:13:42.560 Or I don't know if you even call them men, but just pre Adamites.
01:13:45.360 Well, uh, I'm asking the race question.
01:13:55.180 I just, what do you, what do you think about this?
01:13:59.000 To be honest with you, I have looked at it in a, in a couple ways.
01:14:03.480 Um, and there's some descriptions of this in these stories.
01:14:08.960 Some of, some of these deities being, uh, when they incarnate, right, they incarnate in
01:14:16.360 avatar bodies, uh, whether that's like scientifically made or biological.
01:14:22.200 And they, there's like, you know, these regeneration chambers, which is a whole different rabbit
01:14:27.060 hole.
01:14:27.220 When you talk about, uh, fuck, what's his name?
01:14:31.560 Ningozita, though, Hermes, um, and the halls of Amenti being under the pyramids and Sphinx
01:14:37.800 and all that.
01:14:38.340 That's a whole different, uh, place to go down.
01:14:40.380 But, um, there were humans already here when the Anunnaki arrived here and, but they weren't,
01:14:48.880 uh, they weren't the, they, they, they weren't the brightest, right?
01:14:54.160 Right, right.
01:14:54.920 Something closer to, um, no, I was just going to say something closer to like, um, what we
01:15:01.140 might interpret as like, something closer to what we might interpret.
01:15:08.340 Like a Neanderthal, right?
01:15:09.700 When we're looking at, um, evolutionary biology and they're showing us these representations
01:15:14.480 of, of ancient man, um, very much the same physical descriptives as what the pre-Adamites
01:15:22.140 would have been.
01:15:22.820 Yeah, dude.
01:15:24.920 Um, it actually says in these stories that there were two Adams.
01:15:31.360 Man, uh, now I, I don't know how true that would be because we were only told of one Adam
01:15:36.440 in the Bible.
01:15:36.980 Um, but there was Adamu, who they kind of created and they let go.
01:15:42.920 He was too much like them, it said.
01:15:46.980 But then there was Adapa, who Adapa later became the husband of Lilith.
01:15:54.560 Hmm.
01:15:54.860 Yeah.
01:15:55.860 Yeah.
01:15:57.020 Apparently, uh, Adapa was carrying some kind of DNA.
01:16:01.420 I don't know if it was maybe from Inky or, uh, Ninma who is, and you see, see, so you
01:16:08.880 see this a lot too, man.
01:16:10.320 Ninma being the sister of Inlo and Inky, they both had children with her.
01:16:15.300 Bro, can we just say for a second, like now that we're in 2025 and, and it's like, um,
01:16:23.640 I know we're in the middle of this thing where it's like they're banning porn from Florida
01:16:26.760 or whatever the case may be, but it wasn't long ago, or maybe it still is that the number
01:16:31.620 one trending like porn search is incestual.
01:16:35.220 It's stepsister.
01:16:36.560 It's, you know what I mean?
01:16:37.400 It's like, I just find that everything echoes from those times.
01:16:42.400 This brings me to another point.
01:16:43.620 Um, these archetypes of the certain fallen deities, particularly, uh, Inanna, Ishtar,
01:16:51.800 um, El, and then Marduk, Bel Marduk, um, they are re-emerging.
01:16:59.920 Like you have the spirit of Lilith re-emerging through fourth wave feminism, right?
01:17:04.800 You have, uh, all these wars happening right now.
01:17:07.960 And it is, in my opinion, that the Jews do not, I'm sorry.
01:17:12.540 Well, I guess we're on Patreon now, um, that different sects of Jews worship these different
01:17:19.280 deities.
01:17:20.320 Yeah.
01:17:20.440 For instance, the Talmudic Jews straight up worship Bel Marduk, the priest of Babylon.
01:17:27.460 It goes in, it goes into the Rothschilds, meaning like Ra's shield, red shield, um, the other
01:17:35.540 Jews worshiping El, right?
01:17:37.720 They have the, the box on their head.
01:17:40.400 Um, now they, they may both put boxes on their heads.
01:17:43.560 I don't know.
01:17:44.680 But, um, but yeah, man, like I said, when you kind of get into these, these entities, you
01:17:51.860 have to take them one by one, um, but Lilith, you know, her basically being like an inbred
01:18:01.800 baby.
01:18:03.520 And apparently she, uh, was one of the first sirens.
01:18:10.520 Right.
01:18:11.440 Yeah.
01:18:12.140 Inky being, uh, the god of the water, right?
01:18:14.300 So like they had these, uh, aquatic kind of, uh, what would you call it, um, aspects to
01:18:25.060 them.
01:18:26.080 Uh, now, like I said, who knows, who knows if, um, this stuff was physical, if it was astral,
01:18:35.520 I, I tend to kind of think it's both.
01:18:38.140 Um, for instance, there's some, some of these names that you see, uh, especially emissaries
01:18:48.340 from the creator that come down and tell them like, Hey, shouldn't be doing this.
01:18:52.940 Or, Hey, uh, you need like basically showing up in dreams, right?
01:18:59.680 Not being there physically, but, uh, coming through what you would probably like with what
01:19:04.360 would be a portal.
01:19:05.420 Right.
01:19:06.520 Um, yeah.
01:19:08.140 Um, that's something else that I've been trying to dive further into recently is the
01:19:12.200 whole interdimensional aspect of it and relating it to these deities.
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01:20:15.640 All this other stuff, and you kind of find these little pieces along the way that make
01:20:21.140 more and more sense.
01:20:24.120 I still have, we've only dived into like four of these entities on our show, and I talk about
01:20:34.180 them a bunch.
01:20:35.040 But like, for instance, with certain sects of Hebrews worshipping, the main candle on the
01:20:43.680 menorah is called the Shamash, relating directly to Shamseo, another fallen angel.
01:20:51.320 So like they're giving praise to each one by these certain signs and sigils and like naming
01:20:58.880 certain things after them.
01:21:00.580 It's very odd.
01:21:02.140 It's like they're like, oh, they're acting like they're there watching them or something.
01:21:07.200 Like physically.
01:21:08.260 Yeah.
01:21:08.460 Like on Yom Kippur, you leave the door open.
01:21:11.680 They say it's for Elijah, but there's some theories it's for Azazel.
01:21:16.340 Right?
01:21:17.220 Right.
01:21:18.120 And that's where the sacrificing the chicken comes from and all that stuff.
01:21:24.080 It does seem like a lot of these entities, part of the trouble with tracking them down is
01:21:29.420 they've taken on new attributes throughout time, and some of those attributes were some
01:21:36.480 that came from others.
01:21:37.460 Like when we're talking about Lilith, right?
01:21:39.440 And you mentioned her being a siren, rather.
01:21:43.440 I always took siren to mean sort of an aquatic, like a mermaid type of character, but obviously
01:21:48.800 a very negative one that lures men to their death's singing.
01:21:52.760 But there is this idea.
01:21:55.700 So in Isaiah, Lilith is listed amongst other creatures in the deserts, including hyenas
01:22:04.660 and goat demons.
01:22:06.380 And then there is this idea that Lilith is connected to the owl, which if you do a little bit of
01:22:15.540 a Google on that, you'll find that, right?
01:22:18.120 The screech owl.
01:22:19.360 But over time, it's like I've heard them, I've heard her associated with the siren, but
01:22:26.100 then I've heard her described as something that is like a harpy, which is, you know, I
01:22:30.640 guess there's precedent for these things hanging out by cliff sides by water.
01:22:34.680 But that's a bird with tits, you know, like a bird lady with tits.
01:22:38.720 And it just gets really confusing.
01:22:42.080 And I wonder if it's because the answer is like yes to all of those things.
01:22:47.960 Like these entities aren't just one thing.
01:22:50.420 And over time, maybe they do adapt and change and take from one another.
01:22:56.980 You know what I mean?
01:22:57.400 Especially if you can look at Lucifer as both, in some instances, a male character and a female
01:23:03.840 character.
01:23:04.420 Well, then there's a sort of transmutation that seems to take place because they're spiritual
01:23:08.020 beings.
01:23:08.720 Well, and also you have to look at it.
01:23:11.440 Where do shapeshifters come from?
01:23:13.900 Right.
01:23:14.480 Like where, where does that come from?
01:23:16.200 It, it probably stems directly from these certain entities, um, that being a gift of the fallen,
01:23:25.680 right?
01:23:25.860 What you would, what they would call a gift, not so much.
01:23:28.560 Right.
01:23:29.380 Uh, it, I think it'd be terrifying to shed your skin and to change into some creature.
01:23:33.960 And that goes into like the dog, man, like the earth demo, what, what we were talking
01:23:38.520 about as well as the, uh, I had to write these names down.
01:23:41.620 Um, the Kusariku, the bull man or the Minotaur.
01:23:45.760 Interesting.
01:23:46.160 Um, yeah, yeah.
01:23:47.620 Uh, the, uh, the Edimu, the wind spirits, which are directly related to Lilith.
01:23:52.760 It's like she had this dominion over what I guess you would say could be elementals of
01:23:58.520 some sort in the fallen.
01:24:00.320 And my wife kind of has this theory, uh, that the fallen have manipulated the earth elementals,
01:24:06.860 which God, the creator created, right?
01:24:09.720 Uh, if you get into, uh, the esoteric and stuff and, and, uh, I've read a lot of Manly
01:24:16.300 Palmer Hall.
01:24:17.060 I don't agree with everything he talks about, but there are some things in there that are
01:24:21.700 very interesting.
01:24:22.760 Um, as, as well as these dragons, you see, uh, horn dragons, lion face dragons.
01:24:30.160 It also refers to them as storm demons, um, fish monsters, Kululu.
01:24:36.960 Who does that sound like?
01:24:38.520 Kululu.
01:24:39.600 Yeah, exactly.
01:24:40.460 This all stems back to ancient Mesopotamia, these original names.
01:24:44.600 And it's just like that with the deities.
01:24:47.040 Right.
01:24:47.720 Um, yeah, man.
01:24:49.740 Even when it comes to this idea of Minotaurs, right?
01:24:51.900 It's like, well, you have a precedent for, um, these angels having the face of a bull
01:24:56.520 or an oxen in, in many cases.
01:24:58.640 And then of course you have Molech, which at some point is depicted as a bull.
01:25:02.600 Then all of a sudden seems to adopt the, um, uh, the owl of Minerva, which is interesting
01:25:07.700 because the owl is also associated with Lilith.
01:25:10.080 There is a huge incestual crossover of the symbolism that's associated with these entities.
01:25:15.880 And this could all be symbolic, right?
01:25:18.300 Like, I don't know.
01:25:19.340 It, it, it, I, I tend to think that there's, uh, some, something greater to it, but there's
01:25:24.480 some people that look at it symbolically.
01:25:27.060 Now I have a theory.
01:25:29.560 That's where Mothman comes from is Moloch.
01:25:33.720 Yeah.
01:25:34.240 If Moloch was a deity, a fallen angel, and he participated in, uh, the corruption of God's
01:25:41.560 creation, then, and when, when you look at Mothman, he is a harbinger of doom, right?
01:25:48.660 Right.
01:25:48.900 Wherever he is, there's a catastrophe that happens directly after, uh, there's something
01:25:54.080 spiritual about that, right?
01:25:55.440 Whether he's manipulating what's, what's, you know, uh, the ether around him, whether
01:26:02.200 he can possess you and kind of, I, like, I, I don't know, man, there's, there's a lot
01:26:06.880 tied into that.
01:26:07.620 It could also be like a, a watcher thing, right?
01:26:11.000 So like, just the nature of being a watcher, um, is that you are to observe these, these moments
01:26:18.500 throughout humanity's developments, um, I often look at like the hat man as seemingly
01:26:24.280 he's some higher ranking entity.
01:26:26.240 He's not a shadow person.
01:26:27.800 Those seem to just be really low level kind of, uh, creatures, but the hat man seems to
01:26:34.700 be a little bit, uh, of a bigger deal.
01:26:37.300 And what does he do?
01:26:38.460 Well, he almost exclusively just watches.
01:26:41.360 He just watches.
01:26:42.820 That's his fucking thing.
01:26:43.920 It's like, I'm frozen there and this dude is just watching me.
01:26:46.320 And oftentimes like Mothman is a harbinger of something to come.
01:26:50.400 A lot of people associate him with a coming death in the family or something like that.
01:26:54.360 And, uh, there's a lot of stories where shortly after I saw him, my uncle died, somebody died
01:26:59.460 and I associate that with having this visitation.
01:27:01.800 So, um, I, I wonder if, cause you have those two incursions, right?
01:27:06.420 Or those two falls, you have the fall of Lucifer and his rebellion, but you also have the fall
01:27:10.360 of the watchers, right?
01:27:11.160 Am I, am I characterizing that the right way?
01:27:12.880 Yeah, you, you could look at him as both watchers, um, just different classes of angels.
01:27:18.840 Um, and that goes back to, you know, what I said with the seraphim, the fiery serpents,
01:27:24.260 right?
01:27:24.700 Inky representing the serpent, uh, the, the often them, which could be related to Anu, right?
01:27:30.600 Like, uh, the, the head of all of them being one of, or maybe used to be one of God's highest
01:27:36.940 angels and then Inky's children and Enlil's children, uh, being, being the cherubim also
01:27:44.500 tying into the, um, the Ajiji, because when you read the Sumerian stories, it talks about,
01:27:50.380 uh, the Ajiji descending to the Cedar mountains.
01:27:53.820 When you look up the Cedar mountains right there in Lebanon, exactly where Mount Hermon
01:27:58.820 is, right?
01:28:00.400 That's another similarity that I've found.
01:28:02.920 Uh, but it's like what you said earlier, they do take on these titles when Marduk was,
01:28:11.120 when his kingship came into play.
01:28:12.900 Now this, uh, could be because he was Inky's firstborn.
01:28:16.980 It could be because, uh, you know, of the signs in, in the sky, they kind of, uh, chose kingships
01:28:24.120 by constellations, you know, what was ruling at, at that time in, in the heavens.
01:28:30.020 Um, everyone had a certain rank, like a rank of 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, whoever held the highest
01:28:39.720 rank having 50 and everyone else, that archetype they carried, whether it be the God of the
01:28:47.100 shepherds, God of, uh, agriculture, God of storms, it would all fall under this lead
01:28:54.060 deity in the last 2,000 years, that being Marduk.
01:28:58.740 Um, is this the same character as, as Zeus?
01:29:02.160 Because I know that there's, Zeus is the king of storms.
01:29:04.880 He seems to be one of the bigger characters, um, in the last 2,000 years.
01:29:09.200 I know he's also had dad from like Sumerian mythology.
01:29:12.960 Yeah.
01:29:13.240 Okay.
01:29:13.540 So you linked that perfectly.
01:29:15.140 Hadad, uh, Baal Hadad or Zeus would be related to Enlil's oldest son, Ishkur.
01:29:24.800 Um, who, yeah, yeah, that, that directly ties into that.
01:29:30.420 Uh, and like I said, there's some people that relate Enlil to Zeus.
01:29:35.080 I relate him more to L and I've, I've talked about this before.
01:29:39.340 Like what, what's his name start with an E what's his name end with an L right.
01:29:43.800 Right.
01:29:44.040 With etymology, we know you take certain letters out.
01:29:47.000 You can either shorten it, sometimes make it longer.
01:29:49.500 Uh, but it means the same thing.
01:29:52.440 L is another one of those words that may also be a title.
01:29:56.580 Um, like I said, there's, there's many interpretations of that, but yeah, man.
01:30:02.920 And it's, so it's not like set in stone who is what now it's, it's just my research from
01:30:08.840 what I've done.
01:30:09.500 I've come to these conclusions and I have talked to other people that will either be
01:30:14.380 like, well, I kind of think this, for instance, I used to think, uh, Semyaza, who is just
01:30:21.260 another, a GG angel, basically when Marduk decided he wanted to go down to earth, he was
01:30:27.960 tired of living on Mars because his name Marduk Mars, right.
01:30:32.840 Um, he, he basically was up there by himself with all these other dudes, no women.
01:30:39.960 Uh, they didn't, so they couldn't have children.
01:30:42.040 All his cousins and siblings are down on earth, having all these kingships in, in, in the ancient
01:30:48.080 world.
01:30:49.280 Um, and so he decides to basically be like, okay, fuck it.
01:30:53.540 I'm going to go down there on my own accord and I'm going to take a wife for myself.
01:30:57.900 And it's said in the story, in the Sumerian stories that he chooses a daughter of Enoch.
01:31:03.180 Hmm.
01:31:04.300 Yes.
01:31:05.200 Um, and this is where you believe that that's the same Enoch.
01:31:10.600 I don't know.
01:31:12.080 Hmm.
01:31:12.680 I don't know.
01:31:13.860 Um, now, but this, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a
01:31:18.060 this led to the rest of the angels falling.
01:31:20.960 They attended his wedding.
01:31:23.380 Um, basically fought, followed him down there.
01:31:26.020 There, there was really nothing anyone could do.
01:31:28.380 And so everyone blames Marduk.
01:31:31.560 And this is where you get Azazel being thrown into Dudael or whatever it's called.
01:31:36.700 Uh, Sheol, right.
01:31:39.000 Um, in the Sumerian stories, they, they tie Marduk up inside the great pyramid in this chamber.
01:31:45.920 And there's like a, some sort of etheric, uh, wall around him to where he can't escape.
01:31:52.120 One of his brothers has to go in there and kind of set him free.
01:31:55.960 You see this a lot too, in these stories, it's like, they all hate each other, but they
01:32:01.700 all love each other at the same time goes back into the dualism of it.
01:32:06.460 So you're like, is this just symbolic?
01:32:08.200 Like, well, it almost doesn't sound symbolic because that's indicative of, of human beings
01:32:15.400 too, right?
01:32:16.340 Many of us feel that way about our own families.
01:32:18.600 And I'm, I'm telling you, Jules, I'm getting much more comfortable with the more research
01:32:23.040 I do coming to the conclusion that we can attribute a lot of our own behavior to these
01:32:28.880 entities just because of the fractal nature of reality, the whole as above, so below thing.
01:32:33.260 I, I think in many ways they are like us, even the idea that like they fell because they
01:32:39.840 wanted the veneration, they wanted the worship, you know what I mean?
01:32:43.960 It's like, yeah, that's a, that's a human quality.
01:32:46.720 Um, we, we fall victim to the same temptations in many ways.
01:32:51.500 I, I, to me, I think that only strengthens the argument that they were real or all real.
01:32:57.240 Dude, that's where we get these proclivities from, uh, incest and whatnot, because dude,
01:33:03.000 they're very incestual, like very, like Anu has sex with his granddaughters.
01:33:08.520 It's, it's disgusting.
01:33:09.980 Um, but someone said right here, Yahweh was a storm God to the Canaanites.
01:33:16.220 Oh, shout out, uh, Grapus, three, four, nine, which by the way, greatest name for a fan
01:33:21.220 base ever.
01:33:21.820 Dangerous retards is a banger, but Grapus is, that's hilarious.
01:33:25.660 My wife.
01:33:26.240 Uh, yeah, but Yahweh was a storm God to the Canaanites.
01:33:28.920 There's nothing she can really do about it.
01:33:30.720 So, um, so, so do you think that that falls into the same, I mean, you have all this precedent
01:33:39.760 for all these storm gods and they all seem to just be one link or another in the whole
01:33:44.820 Zeus chain, but I'm also pretty open to the idea that these attributes and what they rule
01:33:49.660 over seem to get past like a baton.
01:33:51.480 It's an archetype.
01:33:53.100 It's something that's carried around.
01:33:55.020 Yeah.
01:33:55.860 So, um, you know, Belle was the storm God at once.
01:34:01.000 Um, and when, when I talk about Marduk so much, there's, there's an episode of the confessionals
01:34:07.000 that I cannot fucking find to save my life.
01:34:10.680 It's the episode where, uh, it's, it's, it's a guy, he's, he's a pastor and there is a young
01:34:18.300 girl whose mother is putting her up for a sacrifice in a coven.
01:34:24.580 And he plays the phone call on the episode where he's talking to this girl and she's crying.
01:34:30.880 And yet this other voice comes out of it and starts to talk to him.
01:34:35.560 I don't know if y'all know which one I'm talking about.
01:34:37.500 Actually doesn't sound familiar.
01:34:38.920 And I, I've been watching him for a while, but, but go on.
01:34:42.780 Um, when he's talking to the mother, she's like, there's nothing you can do to save her.
01:34:50.140 Absolutely nothing.
01:34:51.780 Her soul belongs to us, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff.
01:34:55.020 And then, uh, he goes, well, you don't think that I know about, uh, he names a couple of
01:35:03.200 deities and then he says Marduk and she goes, you can't say that name.
01:35:09.300 I heard that.
01:35:10.360 And my fucking, like, I got chills all over my body and I'm like, holy shit, there is
01:35:15.560 something to that.
01:35:17.360 Um, now, like I said, went by many names, but the story of him is the story of the
01:35:25.020 the adversary, uh, but he chose to do the things he did, right?
01:35:31.080 Like he, he had free will, just like all humans.
01:35:34.720 Um, and so you can't really like, I don't know.
01:35:38.880 I kind of got at first, like listening to all the ancient alien stuff.
01:35:43.300 And I do think to a point, it is a deception.
01:35:46.900 Um, when you venerate these, these entities, as, uh, you kind of look up to them in some way,
01:35:54.300 it's like, there's really no reason to look up to them, right?
01:35:57.600 Um, they all had this kind of fallen, uh, this, this fallen spirit that they all possessed.
01:36:06.320 Um, and you see that with them killing their own siblings.
01:36:12.260 Um, which I, I don't think, I mean, that's probably one of the lowest forms of evil you
01:36:17.440 could possibly go to, right?
01:36:19.460 Right.
01:36:19.840 That's harming a child.
01:36:21.820 Yeah.
01:36:22.140 Yeah.
01:36:22.360 And, and killing someone who is part of your family, someone that you love, uh, that you
01:36:27.440 have, if anything, a soul tied to, right?
01:36:30.500 Uh, now if an individual wants to break that soul tie, I guess that's on them.
01:36:36.600 Uh, cause you, you know, you come from the same womb, the same, uh, the same maternal spirit.
01:36:42.180 Um, and, and when I say spirit, I, I just mean like, we're all, we know we're all made
01:36:46.660 of energy, right?
01:36:48.120 And so, um, and that's, that's another thing when, when I looked at, I'm like, okay, so
01:36:54.440 let's say that our physical bodies were created.
01:36:58.940 Now just like humor me for a second.
01:37:01.280 They were created by Inky and Thoth and Inky sister, Nenma.
01:37:05.960 Uh, that doesn't mean they created us, our spirit, our eternal flame, what you would
01:37:13.600 call in like the esoteric and, and stuff, um, comes from the creator.
01:37:19.420 Yeah.
01:37:19.900 Right.
01:37:20.800 Yeah.
01:37:21.340 Yeah.
01:37:21.760 That's a great, um, point.
01:37:24.120 Actually.
01:37:24.560 I love that because even if through some series of events, you know, it was exposed one way
01:37:31.260 or another that they had a hand in it.
01:37:33.740 And I don't think that's the case, but it is clear that like, um, God is willing to
01:37:39.440 allow major decisions to be influenced by a plethora of other entities, whether it's
01:37:46.760 archangels or, or human beings, right?
01:37:48.700 We've seen that we've talked about it on the show that humans can petition God, uh, and
01:37:53.140 sway his decision one way or another.
01:37:55.540 Um, the idea that they would have had a hand because it seems that God allows many different
01:38:01.540 aspects of his own creation to have a hand in furthering it, uh, does not mean that they
01:38:07.740 created our eternal soul.
01:38:09.740 And, and what are we at the end of the day of a fleshy vehicle or a soul?
01:38:15.940 Right.
01:38:16.500 And, and there's something like when you mentioned the shadow man earlier, there's theories of
01:38:20.140 that being like a remnant of our shadow selves being left here when we die, uh, are, and this
01:38:29.260 goes into like Kredo Motwa and some other stuff that a lot of people don't probably agree with.
01:38:33.420 But, um, they're being like, we have, uh, two aspects to our soul.
01:38:38.180 Uh, one being one kind of, uh, ascending to a higher plane, uh, uh, a heaven, you could
01:38:46.420 call it when we die.
01:38:48.000 And then the other one kind of being stagnant here on earth as some kind of like residual
01:38:52.800 energy or something echo.
01:38:55.180 Yes.
01:38:55.940 Yes.
01:38:56.540 And people call this shit new age, right?
01:38:58.620 Dude.
01:38:58.880 Like, and I'm like, look, anything new age had to stem from somewhere.
01:39:05.060 All occultists do is take knowledge and subvert it, right?
01:39:10.280 It's the same thing with numbers.
01:39:11.940 A lot of these numbers, it's the intention on how you use it.
01:39:16.540 Um, we are taught to fear all of it, right?
01:39:19.240 So we don't even question it.
01:39:20.780 We don't look into it.
01:39:21.780 We, we just stay ignorant of it and people, uh, they're scared of what they don't know.
01:39:27.020 Right.
01:39:29.080 And this has to do that.
01:39:30.500 You know, I look at that pretty often because it's not lost on me that these things are
01:39:35.040 seemingly effective and powerful, all these different systems, these teachings, whether
01:39:41.500 it's numerology or astrology or what have you.
01:39:43.640 Um, and I do believe that these are just laws and, and, um, sort of the fabric of the
01:39:52.880 reality that we inhabit.
01:39:54.040 And these are different ways to like manipulate it.
01:39:56.140 But I don't think that these entities necessarily have the ability to commit, commission these
01:40:02.700 systems without being commissioned by God.
01:40:05.660 I don't think that they can through their own will create something that didn't exist, but
01:40:09.780 they can pervert it and invert it.
01:40:12.440 Manipulate it.
01:40:12.920 Yeah.
01:40:13.020 Yeah.
01:40:13.440 And I think that with Jesus, um, there were so many things that were accomplished by his
01:40:20.620 coming and his death and his resurrection.
01:40:23.200 And one of them was that these systems are real, but they've become so muddied.
01:40:29.820 And I think there's no unpacking them.
01:40:33.020 You know what I mean?
01:40:33.560 So like, I always caution people against looking into these sorts of things, but I think that
01:40:38.000 if you were to, you would stand the best chance, um, as a believer in Jesus Christ, because
01:40:45.700 it just seems to me that genetically things got so muddled system wise, things got so muddled
01:40:53.560 and we were to the point where so much was corrupted that we needed a fix all solution.
01:41:02.360 And I think Jesus Christ was that fix all solution.
01:41:05.260 So what we're seeing now is like, yeah, these things are still out there.
01:41:08.920 These systems weren't made to go away.
01:41:11.340 We just needed something that can kind of part those waters, right?
01:41:15.060 Because it was so dense and so murky.
01:41:17.080 We just couldn't get through it.
01:41:18.940 Um, and so in very many ways, uh, Jesus is a, a lifeline, right?
01:41:24.680 It's like throwing a, um, a flotation device to a drowning person.
01:41:28.440 Um, but that ocean is still there.
01:41:31.320 Yeah.
01:41:31.800 Christ saved my life.
01:41:32.900 I would not be here.
01:41:34.560 I wouldn't be talking to y'all right now if it wasn't for the Holy Spirit.
01:41:37.880 And this is some other theory I have.
01:41:40.020 When you look into the ancient past, you see a lot of, uh, rebirth symbolism, a lot of
01:41:46.020 rebirth rituals taking place, even with the Anunnaki.
01:41:50.160 Um, who was I talking about earlier?
01:41:52.560 Inky's youngest.
01:41:54.560 Damuzi.
01:41:55.680 Or Tammuz.
01:41:56.980 You say Lil Boozy?
01:41:58.360 Yes.
01:41:58.880 Yes.
01:41:59.160 Lil Muzi.
01:42:00.100 Um, he, he drowned.
01:42:03.100 He was the first Anunnaki death on earth.
01:42:05.960 Um, he couldn't swim.
01:42:08.300 What's up?
01:42:09.220 I said he couldn't swim.
01:42:11.340 Okay.
01:42:11.740 So, didn't you say some of them were black from South Africa?
01:42:14.600 Yes.
01:42:15.200 Yes, yes, yes.
01:42:16.400 Um, and he may have been one of those.
01:42:18.320 Inky side, right?
01:42:19.880 Or maybe black.
01:42:20.900 And then little side may have been white.
01:42:22.440 Right.
01:42:23.160 Who knows?
01:42:23.580 Um, but he basically was framed, uh, for a crime against his sister, which was done.
01:42:33.100 This was done by Marduk.
01:42:35.280 Like he somehow, uh, used, and this is where I think they used to use magic as well.
01:42:41.340 He somehow like infiltrated his dreams, got him drunk.
01:42:44.500 And he ended up thinking that he, uh, sexually assaulted his sister.
01:42:48.600 He goes on the run and pretty much like in hiding, like very much distress, I guess you
01:43:00.480 could say, falls off a cliff and drowns.
01:43:04.320 Damn.
01:43:04.860 And yeah, yeah.
01:43:06.700 And then, and he was the lover of Inanna, his, his cousin.
01:43:11.080 Right.
01:43:12.380 Um, and which after that, she goes crazy and she becomes this like sex goddess having sex
01:43:18.500 with men looking for her lost lover.
01:43:21.980 This is where the descent of Inanna and the Necronomicon comes from, goes down to look
01:43:26.820 for the Muzi.
01:43:27.460 That's also in Norse mythology where the death of, of, uh, Balder comes from.
01:43:32.720 Right.
01:43:33.300 Yeah.
01:43:33.700 Uh, Odin's favorite and youngest son.
01:43:36.320 Yep.
01:43:37.160 Yeah.
01:43:37.760 Yeah.
01:43:38.520 Um, again, with the one eye symbolism, you get that with Horace.
01:43:42.500 Um, and that's interesting too, because isn't, I don't know if this is true.
01:43:47.560 I'm just going off a Disney movie here.
01:43:50.120 Um, but like, you know, and I don't imagine they fabricated this.
01:43:54.400 This has to come from some sort of mythology.
01:43:56.020 Hercules would have also delved into the underworld to rescue his love.
01:44:00.880 You know, it was, it was the same thing.
01:44:02.560 He delves into the sort of this, this bat of, or this batch of souls, um, that is in
01:44:09.620 Hades and, and then rescues his, that, that sort of thing.
01:44:13.220 I was actually just talking about that because that's also on its face, a very, um, distilled
01:44:20.420 version of the hero's journey, right?
01:44:21.860 When you have Hercules and, and he leaves the safety of his home to pursue and find, you
01:44:25.960 know, where it is that he fits in, in the world and, um, ends up becoming a hero is the
01:44:30.780 fool.
01:44:31.100 He is a goofy tard in the, in the film.
01:44:34.380 Um, and then ends up, uh, you know, fighting hydras, dragons, creatures, all these things
01:44:39.800 becomes the hero delves into the underworld to get the treasure.
01:44:43.380 The treasure is his love.
01:44:44.440 He then has the opportunity to go elsewhere to Olympus, but decides not to, and returns
01:44:49.440 back home, the hero, uh, with his new, with his new wife.
01:44:52.620 But that, that element, um, within mythology of, of delving into the underworld.
01:44:56.880 Of course, Jordan Peterson would reduce it to, um, uh, analogy, but, um, I was going
01:45:02.780 to say, yeah, I, I don't, I don't know.
01:45:05.120 It just doesn't, to me, there's a real spiritual aspect to that.
01:45:08.240 Absolutely.
01:45:09.000 It, it, it also could kind of represent like the dark night of the soul, right?
01:45:14.120 Like going through something very, very dark in order to get to this like place of enlightenment,
01:45:20.980 right?
01:45:21.520 Um, like I said, many ways to look at that, uh, but Heracles is very closely related to
01:45:29.100 Gilgamesh.
01:45:30.480 Um, yeah.
01:45:31.860 With Gilgamesh going and trying to find the elixir of life, right?
01:45:36.380 Meeting Utnapishtim, Noah.
01:45:38.500 And he like meets him.
01:45:39.960 It's described like inside the earth.
01:45:42.560 Honestly, that's, that's how I interpret it.
01:45:45.260 Um, but what you had said earlier is like, yeah, dude, these, uh, angel, right?
01:45:50.420 Angel means messenger in Greek, um, basically came down to help us, to guide us.
01:46:00.200 And they just took advantage of it.
01:46:02.360 So when you do talk about like the fallen nature of, uh, these, these entities, absolutely.
01:46:10.220 I think that is where we get all our proclivities from.
01:46:14.840 Uh, but with the baptism stuff, so you, I'm sure you've heard about before Christ or like
01:46:20.740 with, with John the Baptist, there's some, uh, aspects to it that talks about the first
01:46:28.820 baptisms were basically like you were drowned, you died, and then you were resuscitated back
01:46:34.840 to life.
01:46:35.740 That kind of a little bit in, well, hear me out.
01:46:38.820 So, um, as far as the, the symbolism of, of being washed in your, of your sins and emerging
01:46:45.460 anew in Christ, um, I have a lot of respect if you're that hardcore, if you just go, if
01:46:51.800 2025, you're like, hold me under till I stop moving.
01:46:54.840 That's like a game of Thrones thing.
01:46:56.480 Uh, the gray joys would do that.
01:46:58.260 I don't know if it was in the book or if it was in the book.
01:47:00.100 Yeah, dude.
01:47:00.840 Yeah.
01:47:01.140 I didn't even think about that.
01:47:02.440 But, but so when you look at Osiris and you, you, you look at Tammuz because Osiris drowns
01:47:08.620 too, right?
01:47:09.760 Um, you see all these, all these rituals, uh, drowning in water can't be reborn or they're
01:47:17.700 reborn through like Osiris is reborn through Horus, right?
01:47:21.460 On the horizon, the Horus rising.
01:47:24.180 Um, dude, it's like Christ came and basically said like, Hey, you don't have to die anymore.
01:47:31.620 You can be reborn through me.
01:47:33.660 Yeah.
01:47:34.840 That's just one way to look at it.
01:47:36.780 I, um, I almost look at that like ancient man.
01:47:39.020 I mean, we have it so good now that we have this clear, easy pathway.
01:47:44.360 Um, ancient man was lost in the sauce, dude.
01:47:47.800 It had to do some real harrowing shit to figure out anything spiritually.
01:47:52.400 You know what I mean?
01:47:53.100 They're, they're sacrificing animals.
01:47:54.720 God is speaking to them, telling them to sacrifice their, their firstborn and then be like, okay,
01:47:58.260 you're good.
01:47:58.940 Don't do it.
01:47:59.560 You can kill that goat over there.
01:48:00.680 Like everything was a lot harder, but they probably had a lot more freedom than us.
01:48:07.200 Like, I mean, I would agree with that.
01:48:08.480 Think about the life of the ancient man.
01:48:10.360 You know, Abraham was a rich man, but he lived in a tent and they just kind of moved around.
01:48:14.660 I sometimes long for that dude.
01:48:16.620 Like just to live in such simpler times.
01:48:20.380 Yeah.
01:48:21.260 I can't really explain it.
01:48:22.560 You know, most of us are stuck in a nine to five weird hell trap to pay for pedophiles to continue to exist.
01:48:29.440 Yeah.
01:48:29.840 Hey, it's a debt slave.
01:48:32.340 Hey, listen, man.
01:48:33.160 I mean, so in a way, like we do have it a lot easier where we would just be like, hey, Jesus, help us.
01:48:37.720 But like, I'm stuck at a desk, you know, I'm stuck at a cubicle.
01:48:40.300 And it's a trade off.
01:48:42.580 Well, I think back in the day, too, it was a lot more obvious to them that they were in a spiritual realm.
01:48:47.680 Right.
01:48:48.160 Given everything that we've learned, it seems like the further back in time, whether or not you're taking the Ed Mabry POV where it's like the speed of light is slowing down.
01:48:55.740 It used to be faster, which means in a bunch of different ways that we were able to perceive things a lot more.
01:49:01.080 We were hardier.
01:49:01.720 We were more in tune with God and we were more in tune with the spiritual realm.
01:49:05.000 It would have been obvious back then.
01:49:06.660 It's kind of it's really a challenge that we find ourselves in where it's like, what if we stripped the spirituality from their lives?
01:49:14.700 And whatever little notion there is left where you detect it, well, let's just inundate them with so much monotony and shit that they can't even see through it to notice it.
01:49:26.400 Will they then still be able to discern that there is a spiritual realm?
01:49:29.460 And then it's an uphill battle from there to decipher what we're talking about here on this show, which is like how many different entities that previously, you know, I don't know how long ago.
01:49:42.040 I wouldn't have even really felt as though they were connected.
01:49:45.400 I had my ideas, you know, like I used to look at the concept of like the 13 crystal skulls and like what if they were associated with the Greek gods and all these different things.
01:49:54.880 So I started to like piece some stuff together, but it was nowhere near what it is now.
01:49:58.980 Only in recent years am I making these levels of connections.
01:50:03.480 It's like, man, even if you can detect that there's a spiritual realm, good luck parsing it out.
01:50:08.480 Yeah, and that's funny you say that about all the crystal skulls because then you have the 12 lost tribes of Israel and the 13th one, right?
01:50:19.220 And then the families of Atlantis as well, which predates ancient Kemet or ancient Egypt is where the same beings were said to have been priests.
01:50:32.560 So it's like, did they slowly fall over time living here on earth, you know, they were subjected to this physical reality, which I mean, they more or less chose for themselves.
01:50:46.120 But at the same time, I mean, there's there's many ways to look at it because we're told so many different things and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
01:50:55.260 Right.
01:50:55.480 So, yeah, I just stay kind of researching.
01:50:58.660 I don't really subscribe to any.
01:51:00.260 I just know that, you know, I was saved by the Holy Spirit and I continue to my life isn't what it used to be, man.
01:51:14.280 Like I used to be a fucking train wreck, bro.
01:51:18.520 Like, I'm sure y'all may have have been there yourselves, but there you like I said earlier, you can't really deny that regardless of what people tell you, like, oh, Jesus was a Jew.
01:51:32.100 And it's like, who wasn't a Jew at that time?
01:51:34.140 Right.
01:51:34.960 Right.
01:51:35.240 Who was born?
01:51:36.140 Like, I don't know.
01:51:37.680 There's there's a lot to get to with that.
01:51:39.520 But well, Owen Benjamin has a great way of dispelling that.
01:51:42.780 And and this is in my he probably doesn't think so, but I recognize it as as just this simple brilliance that he had in this moment of asking a question when people say, like, Jesus was a Jew.
01:51:55.880 And so you're just falling for like more Jew psyops.
01:51:58.080 It's like, well, what do we mean by that?
01:51:59.380 Is Jesus out here advocating for predatory loans?
01:52:01.900 Is he owning a pornography company?
01:52:04.040 Is he convincing you to debase yourself morally?
01:52:07.500 You know what I mean?
01:52:07.860 It's like that's none of what Jesus Christ message was.
01:52:11.040 And so what use is it?
01:52:12.780 And to, you know, compare him to the modern day boogie Jew that rules your life in so many different ways, it's like it's not the same thing at all.
01:52:22.180 So the language is stupid.
01:52:23.520 It's a useless vocabulary word.
01:52:25.120 And it's not at all applicable here.
01:52:26.780 So, yeah, I mean, it's not that's not the same thing.
01:52:30.960 And something just popped into my head, too.
01:52:32.940 It's like, you know, we were talking about the hero's journey and obviously, like, Lord of the Rings is a great representation of this.
01:52:40.840 And so is Harry Potter.
01:52:44.400 Harry Potter is a good way.
01:52:45.240 And at the end, what you notice about those two films is like and even Hercules, when they get there, they turn it down.
01:52:54.640 And why is that so important to note at the end of the hero's journey?
01:52:58.420 It's like once you get there, you have the ring.
01:53:00.180 We'll cast the ring away.
01:53:01.260 When you get there in Harry Potter, he has the elder wand.
01:53:04.960 And what does he do?
01:53:05.480 He snaps it in half and he tosses it off of a cliff.
01:53:09.620 Hercules has the opportunity to join the Olympians.
01:53:12.460 And instead, he chooses a mortal life, even though there's all this power at his fingertips.
01:53:16.000 He chooses to die with this with this mortal woman.
01:53:19.180 And it's like absolute power corrupts.
01:53:21.700 Absolutely.
01:53:22.580 If the angels couldn't handle it, what makes you think you can handle it?
01:53:27.620 So really, the true romance at the end of the hero's journey is to get it but cast it away because it's not for you.
01:53:36.100 Absolute power is for God.
01:53:37.460 We're not designed to be able – not even angels are designed to be able to outlast that sort of temptation.
01:53:45.300 Yeah, and when I mean that who wasn't a Jew back then, I mean in that region where it said that Christ lived.
01:53:53.440 Like you had Gentiles, but I mean the stories and the lineage he came from, I mean, undoubtedly was Jewish.
01:54:01.680 Now, like I said, there's people that think that we've been lied to about that and that he was a white European man.
01:54:09.440 And I don't know, right?
01:54:12.620 I don't know.
01:54:13.860 But that's the physical aspect of it, right?
01:54:18.140 The real connection you'll get is the spiritual connection.
01:54:25.080 That's just what I've encountered in my life.
01:54:28.000 Right, it's the message.
01:54:28.800 Something that I don't really question, you know?
01:54:30.880 Well, these texts and stories have been missed – oh, not missed.
01:54:36.140 They have been retranslated, reinterpreted through, and we have how many denominations of Christianity?
01:54:44.060 I don't know.
01:54:44.580 It's like thousands.
01:54:45.580 Is it thousands or am I tripping?
01:54:46.620 Hundreds of thousands, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:54:48.380 And so live in the spirit, right?
01:54:50.560 Not in the flesh.
01:54:51.960 Right.
01:54:52.400 I guess you could say.
01:54:54.700 Look, we're at the hour and 50 mark.
01:54:56.960 I think it's a good place to land it, but we tried to unpack something very difficult here, and this was a fantastic conversation.
01:55:04.300 I know people are going to love this, but there's so much left on the table.
01:55:08.380 We'd love to have you back in the future because some of these ideas, once you lay out the foundational work for them, they deserve more zeroed-in analysis.
01:55:18.420 And I'm hoping that we could do some of that in the future.
01:55:20.120 But this is a great way to introduce you to our audience, to the Dangerous Retards, which, by the way, there's a tremendous amount of overlap already.
01:55:28.360 But if you can, Jules, just one more time, tell everybody where they can find your work.
01:55:34.220 Oh, guys.
01:55:35.680 Twitter, Greypulled Pod.
01:55:37.660 I'm on Instagram as well, but I don't use it too much.
01:55:42.720 Instagram sucks.
01:55:44.020 It's the wrong Instagram.
01:55:47.520 I'm on Rumble.
01:55:50.120 YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast.
01:55:54.040 Also, Patreon.
01:55:55.480 Patreon.com slash Greypulled Podcast.
01:55:58.280 I'm trying to get some merch put out soon.
01:56:01.700 Working on that.
01:56:02.780 Some new logos and stuff.
01:56:05.380 A lot of good stuff coming here in the future, guys.
01:56:09.480 So, yeah.
01:56:12.180 Yeah.
01:56:12.840 Very cool.
01:56:13.520 Thank you for having me on, dude.
01:56:15.160 No, of course.
01:56:15.780 Of course.
01:56:16.100 This should have happened before, but we just got caught up in so much momentum and stuff.
01:56:20.120 You lift your head up.
01:56:21.580 I know out here.
01:56:22.940 Yeah.
01:56:23.480 It's just not easy.
01:56:24.440 But we're actually going to be doing a show in two hours with Paranoid.
01:56:30.640 So, small world.
01:56:32.720 Very incestual.
01:56:33.600 Very Enli and Kill.
01:56:36.100 Or Enlil.
01:56:37.240 So, but guys, if you do enjoy what you heard here, go and support Jules over in the Greypulled Podcast.
01:56:43.440 If I'm not mistaken, we're actually releasing one of your episodes on our Sunday share this coming Sunday.
01:56:48.300 So, maybe you guys will enjoy that.
01:56:50.880 And you now know where to find them.
01:56:53.640 Thank you, Jules.
01:56:54.180 I really appreciate you coming on.
01:56:56.740 Yeah, man.
01:56:57.220 Thank you all.
01:56:57.800 Thank you all again.
01:56:58.880 Thank you all.
01:56:59.280 Y'all are a big influence in me podcasting, you know.
01:57:05.980 Been watching y'all since I started, you know.
01:57:09.680 It's crazy how you can, I don't know, you kind of get put into this world and all of a sudden you're doing stuff with people that you, you know, you looked up to or that inspired you to do the same thing.
01:57:23.540 So, thank you all, man.
01:57:25.780 Yeah, man.
01:57:26.260 I feel the same exact way.
01:57:27.580 That's happened to us a bunch of times already.
01:57:30.180 But, yeah, just keep going.
01:57:31.800 And we're going to have you back on.
01:57:33.860 And you're already, like, linked in with everybody.
01:57:37.100 So, Jules is here to stay.
01:57:39.000 Follow his show.
01:57:40.560 And until next time, don't forget to obey, submit, and comply.
01:57:45.500 See you later, guys.
01:57:46.180 The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:57:52.060 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:57:56.260 If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, it's a god.
01:58:02.580 Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.
01:58:09.200 And they have.
01:58:10.140 Tell me.
01:58:11.400 Tell me.
01:58:12.180 Tell me.
01:58:14.420 You Him.