Nephilim Death Squad - February 07, 2025


117: Crossing the Abyss w⧸ The Occult Rejects


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 58 minutes

Words per Minute

198.51895

Word Count

23,439

Sentence Count

795

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

91


Summary

On this episode of the Nedealim Death Squad, we are joined by Top Lobster, aka the Father of Disinformation, to discuss his new book, "Too retarded to stop" and much much more.


Transcript

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00:01:26.860 you can't censor me.
00:01:28.320 You can't tell me what to say.
00:01:30.440 I'd apologize, but I don't think you'd believe me.
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00:02:27.060 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
00:02:33.220 News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
00:02:38.140 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:02:46.600 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.
00:02:52.420 Oh yeah, dude.
00:02:53.700 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:02:54.880 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
00:03:01.040 Motherf***ers, they're controlling this now.
00:03:02.700 I know we're talking about how they made us part of these slaves.
00:03:05.800 And everybody's just walking around.
00:03:07.940 Out in the closet, we're awake until we're dead in the grave.
00:03:11.060 But in the sum of A, we need to be ready to raise up.
00:03:13.860 Welcome to the end of day.
00:03:15.520 Everybody is slaves.
00:03:17.060 Only some are aware that the government releases.
00:03:19.500 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:25.440 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:03:28.760 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:03:32.280 Before we get into today's guest, I would just like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30-minute preview only.
00:03:38.640 Sometime around the 30-minute mark, we're going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad.
00:03:43.260 David, why are you acting so rigid right now?
00:03:44.960 I don't like it.
00:03:45.680 Am I rigid?
00:03:46.360 Am I stiff?
00:03:47.280 I don't know.
00:03:47.820 It's early.
00:03:48.640 It's early.
00:03:49.240 Typically, I'm doing timeline cleanse right now, and we're watching debaucherous content.
00:03:54.180 It's much easier.
00:03:55.020 This is serious, serious business.
00:03:56.740 Also, don't interrupt my intro again.
00:03:59.480 It's very disgusting.
00:04:00.200 I'll do what I want, but go ahead.
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00:04:42.160 Joining us today is Nick of the Occult Rejects Podcast.
00:04:48.040 Nick, if you would.
00:04:50.160 I'm sorry.
00:04:50.620 He said I was too stiff, so I had to fucking do a button press.
00:04:53.020 That was awesome.
00:04:54.500 Nick, if you could, for the audience who might not be familiar with you,
00:04:57.760 let them know where they could find your work.
00:04:59.740 Thank you so much.
00:05:00.520 I have the Occult Rejects Podcast that is available on BitChute, Rumble, YouTube,
00:05:05.500 and then all major podcasts.
00:05:07.460 And I also have occultresearchinstitute.org, which is all stuff about the occultism and
00:05:14.080 tons of different topics and tons of different contributors.
00:05:17.120 So definitely check that out.
00:05:19.240 Thank you.
00:05:19.340 Nice.
00:05:19.580 Yeah, I'm definitely going to comb through this website.
00:05:21.840 I did take a peek at it when we were talking, and I was like, oh, this seems like a good
00:05:26.820 information hub here.
00:05:28.000 So definitely a useful tool for what we're going to be.
00:05:32.100 Because in the show here, the show is basically us stumbling through things that we're interested,
00:05:38.620 but also creating this weird little roadmap as we figure out whatever existence and plane
00:05:45.700 that we're on or how this whole thing works.
00:05:48.000 So this website, it looks like it could be a pretty useful tool.
00:05:51.840 You know, I want to say on that note, Top is somebody who really enjoys web design and
00:05:59.380 branding and things of that nature.
00:06:01.080 And he always, and you know, if he doesn't like your, this is, guys, go back and listen
00:06:04.940 to previous episodes.
00:06:05.860 If he doesn't like it, he won't say, he'll just say, hey, go there and support it.
00:06:08.920 Right?
00:06:09.080 That's what he does.
00:06:09.740 It's like, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
00:06:12.080 He goes, hey, just go there and support it.
00:06:13.900 But he likes Nick's website.
00:06:15.260 So that's nice.
00:06:15.800 Thank you.
00:06:16.160 Awesome.
00:06:16.680 Awesome.
00:06:17.040 Thank you.
00:06:19.420 I know what you mean, too, because I do the same thing.
00:06:22.300 Yeah.
00:06:22.660 Go check out their amazing work.
00:06:23.880 Go check out their work.
00:06:24.780 Yeah.
00:06:25.000 And in your mind, you're like, this is fucking poorly laid out, homie.
00:06:27.380 When is this?
00:06:27.780 How much time do we have left in this episode?
00:06:31.000 That's what he starts doing as soon as he sees their website.
00:06:33.880 Nick, we were having a fascinating conversation.
00:06:36.660 Well, I didn't want to have it before the show started because whenever people start saying
00:06:40.080 interesting things, I'm like, hold on, please save it for the show.
00:06:42.500 But you were in the OTO for how long did you say, Nick?
00:06:47.760 Just bury the lead, huh?
00:06:48.860 Just break for it.
00:06:49.300 I fucking want to know, dude.
00:06:50.320 I want to get straight into it.
00:06:51.460 Five to six years.
00:06:52.440 About?
00:06:53.100 Five to six years.
00:06:54.360 That's incredible.
00:06:55.520 I was thinking that since you have that, where are you right now?
00:06:59.500 Nick, what state?
00:07:01.420 North Carolina.
00:07:02.100 I was originally in New York when I first started podcasting.
00:07:04.240 Now I'm in North Carolina.
00:07:04.760 So, we do a semi-annual event called Brohemian Grove.
00:07:09.920 I think you need to launch a semi-annual event called the Bro-TO.
00:07:13.520 And that way we can have crossover events.
00:07:16.020 You know, Brohemian Grove meets the Bro-TO.
00:07:19.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:20.880 We have like our annual cremation of care.
00:07:24.000 Yes, yes.
00:07:25.180 I'm down for, it doesn't have to be a mock sacrifice.
00:07:27.620 We can just do a real one.
00:07:29.020 We'll just pick a member of the audience.
00:07:31.000 A member of the audience.
00:07:32.880 Where's Emily?
00:07:33.640 Where's Emily at in the chat?
00:07:35.020 There she goes.
00:07:36.240 God bless.
00:07:36.800 He's the most annoying person in chat.
00:07:38.340 Let's use that.
00:07:41.400 He's the one who scares everybody away.
00:07:43.160 Come here.
00:07:43.780 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:44.320 We had a couple of those guys.
00:07:45.440 One of them, shout out to Leon.
00:07:46.420 He's out there somewhere.
00:07:48.020 He makes a lot of weird videos about our content.
00:07:50.580 But he's like 80 years old and he wears no shirt.
00:07:52.720 And he's got really long nipples.
00:07:54.900 Like really long nipples.
00:07:56.360 It's amazing the people that, you know, you kind of cultivate.
00:08:00.460 So, Nick, I don't know how to start this conversation.
00:08:04.100 I mean, there's so much that I want to know about the OTO.
00:08:07.300 And let's start.
00:08:08.980 First off, how do you get into this?
00:08:10.780 Like, how does your life develop?
00:08:12.540 You're a kid in New York.
00:08:14.080 How the hell do you get into the OTO?
00:08:18.040 Believe it or not.
00:08:18.800 I mean, as simple as it was, I was, you know, again, I started off with conspiracies.
00:08:23.300 I was much into conspiracies.
00:08:25.160 And I listened to, like, a lot of people that kind of were heavy into occultism, like Michael Tesari and David Icke, Jordan Maxwell.
00:08:32.080 Like, I started off in 2010 with people like that.
00:08:34.960 So, you know, I was very much into occultism.
00:08:37.800 So, like, I kind of got into that when I was kind of getting into conspiracies and stuff.
00:08:42.780 And at one point, I was just like, just for me, not for nothing.
00:08:45.900 Like, I'm learning all this stuff about these orders and shit, but I still don't know what magic is.
00:08:49.680 So I literally just, like, Googled, like, gold.
00:08:52.940 First, I looked up Golden Dawn because, honestly, my OTO wasn't the first choice.
00:08:57.280 But I looked that up.
00:08:58.140 There wasn't anything near me.
00:08:59.120 And I Googled the, you know, OTO, Lodge.
00:09:01.920 And literally, there was one 20 minutes away from me.
00:09:04.280 When I was living in Queens, there was one in Sunnyside.
00:09:08.380 I don't know if you know where that is.
00:09:09.660 Yeah.
00:09:10.040 And I was in the, God, where was, I forgot the, wow, I already forgot the town I was in.
00:09:14.720 I was, like, 20 minutes away.
00:09:16.340 So I was, like, ah, I was, like, all right, I guess, I mean, this is convenient.
00:09:20.220 So I'll go check it out.
00:09:21.400 And these places, believe it or not, if you look for them, they are not hard to find.
00:09:26.160 You will find, like, either they'll have a website or the OTO has, like, you know, its own actual website.
00:09:31.700 And you can go.
00:09:32.380 And it will show you the locations.
00:09:33.540 It will give you websites, if they have any, so you can check out their calendar.
00:09:37.660 And that's what I did with Tahiti Lodge in New York.
00:09:40.360 I checked, I went, I saw that they were near me.
00:09:42.980 I checked out their calendar.
00:09:44.440 And they had a Gnostic Mass coming up.
00:09:46.760 I think they have one, like, fucking every weekend.
00:09:48.920 But there was one coming up in a few weeks that I was, like, oh, I'll be around for that.
00:09:52.760 I'll check it out.
00:09:54.260 And I emailed them and told them that I was interested in coming to the Gnostic Mass.
00:09:57.860 And they said, on that day, just email us again and we'll let you know what's up.
00:10:01.780 Come here, we'll give you directions and everything.
00:10:04.060 And the day of it, I emailed them.
00:10:05.480 And they, you know, they gave me directions from all these different points, wherever I could be coming from, the address.
00:10:11.320 And I went.
00:10:12.680 And I was there five to six years after the fact.
00:10:17.160 So, whatever happened in that first instance, that hooked you for the next five to six years.
00:10:23.540 What's interesting about that is, like.
00:10:24.760 That's interesting, yeah, yeah.
00:10:26.060 Well, I mean, I drive around.
00:10:28.200 Like, yesterday, I was out with my wife.
00:10:30.080 And, you know, we just kind of jokingly pointed out, like, oh, there's a Masonic Lodge, like, as you pass by.
00:10:35.640 Admittedly, I don't think I've ever passed by anything other than a Masonic Lodge that caught my eye.
00:10:41.480 I never even realized if they are out and about.
00:10:44.540 Because we're from, you know, a similar area.
00:10:46.780 I was in New Jersey.
00:10:47.520 I can't recall ever seeing these things.
00:10:49.800 Maybe it just wasn't on my radar.
00:10:51.180 Maybe it just wasn't.
00:10:51.780 I knew what they were.
00:10:52.180 Then I started noticing them, I guess, because I was looking for them, maybe.
00:10:54.900 I don't know.
00:10:55.100 Ah, that's like when you drive the red Kia, then you see the red Kia.
00:10:58.120 Yes.
00:10:58.660 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:59.700 I know what you're saying with the Masonic.
00:11:01.340 I never really noticed any of that stuff until I started getting into it.
00:11:04.920 So, what happens then when they, because this is a Gnostic mass.
00:11:08.600 Is that the Gnostic mass?
00:11:09.920 So, what does that look like?
00:11:11.780 Um, I mean, you can go watch it on YouTube.
00:11:14.900 There is one, I think, on Vimeo that's a little bit more on par because it will show the nudity of what happens because there is nudity in it.
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00:12:02.520 Hashtag make a play.
00:12:03.940 But it's basically like the OTO's version of church, I guess, in a sense.
00:12:10.280 And it kind of shows you, I guess, the magician crossing the abyss and coming back and telling people the experience.
00:12:16.820 It's basically kind of what, in my opinion, what it shows.
00:12:19.880 I also think it gets into, like, deep symbolism.
00:12:22.460 I think it even explains, like, how the eyeball works and all that.
00:12:26.460 Interesting.
00:12:27.400 Yeah.
00:12:27.620 Interesting.
00:12:28.080 What do you mean by that?
00:12:28.880 It explains how the eyeball works.
00:12:31.160 Well, that's something, actually, I should maybe make this, preface this now just to get it over with because I do like to try to put this out there.
00:12:37.740 If people are really interested in the occult and some of the deepest secrets of secrets, learn exactly how the eyeball works.
00:12:44.480 Look at the eyeball and start looking at certain parts of it, especially the zonules, the zin, the optic nerve, the hyaluronic canal, and the lens, and you'll start to see sigils and occult symbolism.
00:12:52.800 And another opinion of mine, some of the deepest secrets of secrets in occultism is the experience of death, feelings and the visions you will see when it happens.
00:13:00.160 Those are some of the deepest things I think is in the occult.
00:13:02.640 So, and I do think in the diagnostic mass, and I think in their initiations, I was shown a lot of eyeballs.
00:13:09.960 Right.
00:13:10.520 What I understand about the eyeball, I mean, I'm not an ophthalmologist or anything, but I did have LASIK surgery.
00:13:17.440 So, I have a cursory understanding of why my vision was bad.
00:13:22.120 Like, there's a material built up in my eyeball, somewhere around my eyeball, and the light coming in is not able to refract and output correctly, which is why I saw a blurry.
00:13:34.200 And after they did the LASIK surgery, obviously, they removed that, like, plaque or whatever kind of decay that's on my eye, and now I have 20, 30 vision or whatever it is.
00:13:44.640 I'm wondering if that was, like, your Aura's erotics.
00:13:46.300 I know we build up crystals around that too.
00:13:48.440 Yeah, it's possible.
00:13:49.680 I don't know about that stuff, but I'm just thinking.
00:13:52.480 Is there any aspect of, like, light coming in and light being reflected as, like, a, is that, like, a Gnostic process?
00:14:00.000 Yeah.
00:14:00.640 I would even say if you were to go look at how light starts to reflect off your eyeball, you'll see the sigil of Lucifer.
00:14:06.840 You'll see the...
00:14:07.920 Oh, I've seen that.
00:14:08.740 You'll see that.
00:14:09.540 You'll see that.
00:14:10.060 That's exactly how light reflects off of your lens in your eyeball.
00:14:14.580 I'm sure I can pull that up.
00:14:15.760 Yeah.
00:14:16.360 I know what you're talking about.
00:14:17.500 I've seen this before.
00:14:18.260 The sigil of Lucifer and then light.
00:14:21.060 Your eyeball even projects out six feet.
00:14:24.220 Oh, that's interesting.
00:14:25.460 Project out six feet from your eyes.
00:14:27.720 It's a relationship between what's out there.
00:14:30.160 There's a lot going on for your eyes.
00:14:32.160 And it's an extension of your brain.
00:14:34.120 It's all one part, technically.
00:14:35.240 With the six feet thing now, I mean, we're all from New York, so we're familiar with the stay six feet apart.
00:14:40.000 What do you make with that?
00:14:41.620 Listen, when they sit six feet apart and they started making people wear masks and, like, I don't know.
00:14:48.000 I mean, you looked at my logo.
00:14:49.220 I was wearing a hood without a mouthpiece on it.
00:14:52.180 Yeah.
00:14:52.520 Just to me, I was like, this seems very occult and ritualistic.
00:14:57.480 That's what I thought.
00:14:58.700 Six feet.
00:14:59.360 I mean, it's kind of expected to have a six to nine feet circle when you're doing ritual work.
00:15:04.200 So, Shanae, you're telling me to cover my mouth like I would regularly with my hood and not have somebody within six feet of me?
00:15:10.080 It sounds like I'm doing a ritual.
00:15:11.900 Oh.
00:15:13.760 Do you think—
00:15:14.060 I want to show this real quick on screen.
00:15:16.600 And, Nick, if you could tell me if this is what you were talking about right here.
00:15:23.140 Yes.
00:15:23.980 That's it, right?
00:15:24.960 Yeah.
00:15:25.100 So, this is, like, beyond—
00:15:28.100 Go ahead.
00:15:29.100 Yeah.
00:15:29.420 No, no.
00:15:29.700 That's it.
00:15:30.000 That's great.
00:15:30.380 I love that you even picked up the other picture with it.
00:15:32.980 Yeah.
00:15:33.260 But, I mean, this is something that, as a retard, this is well beyond my grasp of understanding.
00:15:38.620 So, that's pointing to the pineal gland?
00:15:43.100 The pineal gland is, in my opinion, what you've got to crack open to have a magical experience.
00:15:48.000 That's interesting.
00:15:49.040 So, these are—
00:15:50.500 Okay.
00:15:50.860 On this show, we believe in much of the biblical narrative, but I don't discount Gnosticism and much of the New Age movement, although that's kind of a misnomer, right?
00:16:00.380 This idea that it's New Aged at all.
00:16:02.120 It's really these ancient teachings that are being rehashed probably, you know, in the 2000s.
00:16:08.060 But when I see what these teachings have to offer, I recognize a lot of it as being valid.
00:16:15.760 But there are a lot of people within the space that then use these things—and maybe this is a bit of a hard-hitting question for you—but there are a lot of people within the space that use these things to discount much of the biblical narrative.
00:16:27.920 But I don't think that it does.
00:16:30.300 Instead, what I see is—
00:16:31.340 I think it makes it more beautiful.
00:16:32.980 Yeah.
00:16:33.260 I see that it's fractal in nature and that these elements, they repeat themselves, you know, within our own biology, but they also repeat themselves on a microscopic level all the way up to the macro.
00:16:45.280 If God is a part of us, I mean, it's going to be reflected within us.
00:16:49.620 So I do think that's all part of the beauty of showing.
00:16:51.680 So, well, let me ask you this then.
00:16:55.460 When it comes to these teachings, my contention with them is they're valid.
00:17:02.380 They're incredibly powerful because they have to do with understanding the very makeup of this realm that we inhabit.
00:17:06.860 And by nature of understanding the realm that we inhabit, it then gives us the ability potentially to manipulate the realm that we inhabit, which becomes problematic because of the corruptive or corrosive nature of power on an individual.
00:17:21.680 And so it seems to me that these teachings themselves aren't inherently bad.
00:17:27.320 It's just twofold, I would say.
00:17:29.760 Number one, where did these teachings come from?
00:17:31.760 It often seems that the methodologies that we receive in regards to the Gnostic teachings or the, you know, hermetic principles and things like that were given.
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00:18:23.220 By some deity.
00:18:25.560 They can often be attributed to having been taught by a spirit, channeling some sort of entity, you know, revealed this thing to somebody in a ceremony.
00:18:34.980 And then the other part of it is that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
00:18:39.560 So what ends up happening is these people recognize this as being powerful.
00:18:43.560 Yes.
00:18:43.840 And then they go on to utilize it to their own benefit or to the detriment of other people.
00:18:49.020 Yes.
00:18:49.580 Totally agree with you, sir.
00:18:50.680 Totally agree with you.
00:18:51.260 My experience after I finally had a magical experience, I will say for me, that's when the judgment really comes in for me.
00:18:58.300 Like, you know how they say, like, oh, you know, you get judged by God or whatever.
00:19:01.740 Like, for me, if I've had literally had an experience with God, which is what I believe I did, I'll be totally honest with you.
00:19:08.580 Whenever I've had a magical experience, and this is something that is probably, for me, it was one of the reasons why I continued to do it.
00:19:14.940 And I'm sure it's why pieces of shit continue to do it.
00:19:17.560 When you open up your eyes, you're going to know shit you never knew before.
00:19:20.840 It doesn't sound crazy.
00:19:21.720 It sounds silly.
00:19:22.520 It's very much like the Matrix, but you're not actually going to know Kung Fu.
00:19:25.320 But, you know, Neo would wake up and be like, I know Kung Fu now.
00:19:28.460 It's very much like you will understand things you did not understand before.
00:19:31.880 And in my opinion, like, if I take that gift from God and then start fucking manipulating people to better myself and make other people fucking dumb and just suck money out of their pockets, that is black magic.
00:19:44.820 And in my opinion, I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing with the gift I was just given.
00:19:49.140 You know, I should be inspiring other people to have their own experience.
00:19:51.980 That's about it.
00:19:53.640 Yeah.
00:19:53.960 Tell people my experience and say, you can have this experience and you can take off the handcuffs as well.
00:19:57.880 Like there's some sci-fi stories and fucking whatever fairy tales.
00:20:03.440 Let's get into your experience because now I'm interested to hear, like, what happened, how long it started off, man.
00:20:10.380 Start wherever you think you need to.
00:20:13.480 You know, this was near the ending of my experience with, I guess, like the OTO as well.
00:20:19.560 And, you know, being part of that.
00:20:21.360 But for the most part, you know, to try to, like, just get through this whole time and have to get specific, I will say there was a lot of different reasons or beliefs that I had about magic or why I was even practicing it.
00:20:33.160 It was never really to actually ever do anything bad to anybody else.
00:20:36.860 It was always really just to help change myself or kind of have like a GPS to get where I want to go and stay out of the matrix as much as I can.
00:20:43.820 At some point, I did start to have kind of like, this is just my opinion.
00:20:49.620 My belief is that, like, if you're trying to change anything in this world to fit where you want to go, it's technically kind of black magic because I'm going to have to go against someone's will or something's will to make that happen.
00:21:02.140 I'm going to have to start bending things to my will in this reality, this world.
00:21:06.080 And I started getting much more deeper into kind of working on myself and just having an experience with God and started doing a lot more like shadow work or like self-inventory, a lot of theurgy, like praying and just invoking God, asking God for help.
00:21:22.680 Just doing a lot of prayer and meditation and like mantras, kind of.
00:21:25.480 And once that started, I started doing that, I will have to say, I started having kind of like breakthroughs in magic and where I just felt like there's something there.
00:21:35.700 There's something was going on.
00:21:37.360 When you say God, who are you talking about?
00:21:40.620 I guess just something that's created everything.
00:21:43.260 Everything that, you know, we came from that.
00:21:46.140 The all.
00:21:47.260 Right.
00:21:48.100 I really, I, it's kind of hard for me to really put any words on God.
00:21:52.960 Have you ever had any imagery associated with him?
00:21:55.480 Nick?
00:21:57.920 No, I mean, no, not really.
00:22:01.340 No, I mean, sometimes I, I guess I can say like some of my visions that I have that are always repeating whenever I cross the abyss.
00:22:07.820 I mean, I, I consider the eclipse kind of like an, an image of beauty before I see God.
00:22:13.340 But no, I wouldn't say that there's an actual image specifically for God.
00:22:17.700 I mean, no.
00:22:18.280 The reason that I ask is because, um.
00:22:20.380 Some people do.
00:22:21.380 Yes.
00:22:21.780 Right.
00:22:22.180 And have you heard of this, uh, sort of lion headed serpent that the Gnostics will often call like some aspect of God.
00:22:33.600 And even that gets a little bit confusing because it's not like the end all be all, but it is a form that they attribute to God.
00:22:40.100 Yeah.
00:22:40.280 Crowley isn't like ripped off that symbol.
00:22:42.240 Something with it.
00:22:43.260 Yeah.
00:22:43.880 Well, we've talked to somebody in specific on this show.
00:22:47.100 Um, it was a gentleman who in his twenties was diagnosed with bipolar schizophrenia and then he, he overcame it by treating the hallucinations.
00:22:59.740 I'm using quotes for the listening audience as, uh, external to himself, not hallucinations, but actually that he's being beset upon by, by something adversarial.
00:23:09.200 So, so he ends up overcoming this that way.
00:23:12.120 But one of the experiences that he has at some point during the height of this, you know, what is medically diagnosed as schizophrenia, uh, he sees, uh, this, this snake bodied lion headed entity emerge out of a portal, um, in his, in his room.
00:23:31.180 Um, and, uh, it was interesting because he didn't have any grounding for that experience later on, he would find that this is what the Gnostics call God, or at least they claim that this is what God looks like in some aspect or another, which was to him really sort of groundbreaking.
00:23:50.160 And, uh, and we've even read recently from our show, NDS Chronicles, somebody having a drug induced experience where they fell, uh, essentially into some sort of like a dark void.
00:24:03.280 And the only entity that was there was this lion who kind of said, oh, looks like you're, uh, far from home and then essentially sends him back.
00:24:15.240 And so there's this, the reason that I ask is because this lion faced entity makes several appearances.
00:24:21.880 And if you're looking at the Bible, it's like, well, there's a lot of, um, angelic or, or Elohim, uh, that also have the attributes of a lion one way or another, whether it's multiple heads, like the cherubim or one of the faces, I believe is a lion, or there's, there's other species that are often described as that way.
00:24:36.720 So this, this, uh, symbol of the lion seems pretty heavy in the spiritual realm.
00:24:41.980 Um, yeah, I mean, to me, uh, I, I've kind of made like a logo of my own version of that myself.
00:24:50.840 I've even mentioned that on the, uh, the occult rejects.
00:24:53.220 I mean, I do, I have pumped out a lot of occult art recently and, uh, I'm trying to just give people ideas of like what certain art can look like for certain things that you're trying to get across.
00:25:03.120 Um, that image to me can very much explain a magical experience in itself.
00:25:10.260 It's just, I've never seen anything like that in my magical experience, but I could see that being something that you could use to describe in a sense, a change that went on within oneself.
00:25:21.560 Even the snake, I think the snake is hugely used for eyeball stuff.
00:25:27.140 Your pupil does screw closed, screws closed, like spins closed.
00:25:32.460 And I think a lot of snake symbolism is used like on the hermit card.
00:25:35.720 A lot of times there's snakes like underneath the hermit, whatever, like wrapping around the orphic egg.
00:25:40.900 You know, again, the egg with the snake spinning around it, your pupil's going to spin closed and your scolera is white.
00:25:47.240 You know, you're getting the whole symbolism of, of the white and the black, but, uh, I forgot where I was going with that.
00:25:53.700 Sorry.
00:25:54.360 Well, I mean, you touched on something there that that's been, uh, a large part of the conversation we've been having, but I actually do kind of want to put a pin in that orphic egg and return to it in a minute.
00:26:05.640 Um, oh yeah.
00:26:06.600 I was talking about the, this, this, the lion and the snake.
00:26:09.180 Yeah.
00:26:09.900 Uh, for me, I've never seen that, but I do think it's again, like I've even tried to spoof off that image to get it, you know, to get a point across.
00:26:17.940 So you mentioned earlier that, um, part of this process for you was a lot of like self auditing, I believe might have been the expression that you used.
00:26:26.540 Uh, yeah, yeah.
00:26:27.460 Well, I called it shadow work or like self inventory.
00:26:29.640 Yeah.
00:26:29.980 Yeah.
00:26:30.260 Yeah.
00:26:30.440 Self inventory is the expression that you use.
00:26:32.080 Now that to me seems reminiscent of even like a Scientology has like.
00:26:35.940 Yeah.
00:26:36.080 When you said auditing, it was like, oh, I'm sorry.
00:26:38.260 Well, I mean, it's not even just the.
00:26:39.780 It's called down here.
00:26:41.340 Yeah.
00:26:41.500 Yeah.
00:26:43.020 We're pretty close over here to.
00:26:44.340 I didn't have us to hold it on to that.
00:26:45.680 He's trying to get clear.
00:26:46.640 Well, well, but hear me out though.
00:26:48.660 So, um, I recognize that in a lot of spiritual work, there is this self auditing.
00:26:54.940 I mean, within Christianity, there's the admission of sin and the repentance of sin, which is a sort of a form of self auditing, or at least you could liken it to it.
00:27:02.760 Even when you have psychedelic experiences, oftentimes the insights that you gleam are really about yourself.
00:27:09.920 Uh, I've, I've taken quite a bit of mushrooms before, and it was the, the entire experience was more or less like, why do I behave the way that I behave?
00:27:19.600 Where does my, where do my ideas come from?
00:27:22.300 And, and it was able to kind of track things down to the root, which in a way felt like, you know, it was a deeper understanding of self.
00:27:29.860 But in that way, it's kind of a self audit, is it not?
00:27:33.760 So, um, I find it fascinating that regardless of the, maybe the, um, what, what would these, these secret schools, is that, is that what they're called?
00:27:43.320 Uh, uh, uh, secret societies or, or if you're in a shamanistic kind of experience where you're utilizing drugs to, to this, this self auditing, this understanding of self comes up quite a bit.
00:27:54.880 I imagine this is an important component to this process.
00:27:59.280 I think it is, uh, in my opinion, in order to have a magical experience, you're going to have to let go of like a lot of fears, guilt, and, uh, ties to this world in order to have that.
00:28:13.940 And, and, and like, let's say even if you're just not, you know, totally balanced and you still somehow across the abyss, my opinion, when you come back, you're going to have to be really well balanced.
00:28:24.880 And be okay in the head, because you're going to have to deal with shit that you may not have expected to know once you open your eyes.
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00:30:03.400 And really, it spoke truth for me.
00:30:05.480 Sometimes when practicing magic, I will get answers to questions that I did not ask.
00:30:09.560 And that's like the insanity of chaos.
00:30:11.980 Because you may get shown a reality that you are not ready to actually accept.
00:30:16.560 And you're going to have to deal with that now.
00:30:18.100 And it's like, oh, I wasn't even worried about that.
00:30:19.800 And now you just fucking slapped me in the face with a knowing instead of a belief that I wasn't looking for.
00:30:25.280 I don't know.
00:30:25.620 I don't know how to explain, but it's just like you can kind of rake you, you know, shout at you a little bit.
00:30:29.960 And if you're not a strong enough person, it may freak you the fuck out.
00:30:34.360 Are you ever suspicious that you're being shown something that's not true?
00:30:39.040 No, no, not really.
00:30:42.660 Because none of it's really bad.
00:30:44.460 It's just when you're all right.
00:30:47.040 I guess this shit happened to me probably like when I was 40.
00:30:51.700 No, maybe even earlier.
00:30:52.800 I think it was like my late 30s.
00:30:56.120 That's how many years that I've already been programmed to believe something.
00:31:00.300 You know what I'm saying?
00:31:01.020 It's like from my experiences, I can't believe.
00:31:04.980 I've been living a lie.
00:31:06.020 Yeah, it's hard to explain, but like physics and if you had a magical experience.
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00:32:35.800 In my opinion,
00:32:38.540 you're going to have to question everything
00:32:39.880 that you've believed
00:32:40.640 because it doesn't make sense
00:32:41.900 for that to actually be a reality.
00:32:44.100 Going by how you've been brought up
00:32:45.520 and how you've believed the world to be,
00:32:47.640 it shouldn't happen.
00:32:49.240 So how do you explain this now?
00:32:50.840 I've been lied to about the reality that I'm living.
00:32:54.000 This is something that is,
00:32:57.300 well, it's been happening to a lot of people
00:32:58.900 over the last five years.
00:33:00.500 Yeah.
00:33:00.820 And you can see the ways in which that's sort of a...
00:33:05.200 Go ahead, Todd.
00:33:05.560 I just said,
00:33:06.600 again, hold that thought
00:33:07.960 because I don't want to skip over
00:33:10.100 what we just said here
00:33:11.040 when we're talking about
00:33:11.740 the six feet apart stuff.
00:33:13.380 And he's like,
00:33:13.840 it looks like a ritual to me.
00:33:15.900 And I was going to ask you
00:33:16.940 if you think,
00:33:18.840 can people take part in a ritual
00:33:20.520 that they're not actively consenting to?
00:33:25.520 Yeah, they just have to be in love
00:33:26.980 with the person doing it
00:33:28.140 and they're fucked.
00:33:29.420 They just have to be in love
00:33:30.500 with the politics
00:33:31.400 that are doing that to them.
00:33:33.120 Yeah, politician,
00:33:33.880 you know, music artists,
00:33:35.840 any of those people.
00:33:36.820 They love them.
00:33:37.920 They're fucked.
00:33:38.420 And that's where you get
00:33:39.500 those big Super Bowl events, right?
00:33:41.180 Where you've got like this beloved artist
00:33:43.080 on the world stage.
00:33:45.120 Yes.
00:33:45.520 So they're manipulating the energy.
00:33:47.240 They're using the symbolism.
00:33:48.480 They're using the geometry
00:33:49.500 and they're putting you through.
00:33:51.100 You're the unwilling participant
00:33:52.260 in a...
00:33:53.160 Somebody said once,
00:33:53.960 I forget what it was,
00:33:54.680 but it was like by this time,
00:33:56.280 the public has already been initiated
00:33:58.680 to some degree, right?
00:33:59.920 It's just to what degree
00:34:01.000 have you been initiated?
00:34:02.540 Because you've bore witness
00:34:04.360 to these ceremonies.
00:34:05.600 You've played a role
00:34:06.540 and you've even been part
00:34:08.340 of the energetic exchange
00:34:09.580 in these ceremonies.
00:34:11.280 Yeah.
00:34:13.080 Besides that and just exposure,
00:34:15.520 I mean,
00:34:15.720 I think that's another huge thing
00:34:16.960 for any magician.
00:34:17.880 The more people know you exist,
00:34:19.740 the stronger it's going to make you.
00:34:22.020 That's what makes you a God
00:34:23.400 in this reality
00:34:24.460 is living on through people's minds.
00:34:27.620 That's why Elon Musk,
00:34:29.120 so powerful, Kanye West,
00:34:30.680 he does dumb shit
00:34:31.560 to stay in people's minds.
00:34:34.680 What do you think, Nick?
00:34:35.720 Do you think that this is...
00:34:37.320 On the 20th,
00:34:38.940 I said something.
00:34:39.880 I said it's time for Kanye West
00:34:41.460 to reemerge.
00:34:42.280 That would have been
00:34:43.280 almost exactly two weeks ago.
00:34:45.280 He has to.
00:34:45.360 He has to stay.
00:34:45.920 I mean, he's probably got a part
00:34:47.260 somewhere in the script
00:34:48.020 down the road
00:34:48.500 and he has to stay relevant
00:34:49.340 until then.
00:34:49.760 I think so.
00:34:50.420 I think he does have a part
00:34:51.320 in the script.
00:34:51.920 I think it's part of this.
00:34:54.340 It's multifaceted,
00:34:55.860 but I think right now
00:34:56.880 it's the Jewish sentiment
00:34:58.760 and the way that it's developing
00:35:00.540 on Twitter
00:35:01.040 and the way that it's developing
00:35:01.980 kind of in this larger conversation.
00:35:04.660 I think he plays a role in that.
00:35:06.520 Same as Elon Musk.
00:35:07.880 And I said on the 20th
00:35:09.820 that it was time for him
00:35:10.900 to reemerge
00:35:12.080 and all of a sudden he does.
00:35:13.400 And when he does,
00:35:14.200 what's the first thing he does?
00:35:15.760 He's pimping on his girl.
00:35:16.600 Yeah, well, actually,
00:35:17.460 the first thing he did
00:35:18.120 was he made a bunch of tweets
00:35:19.040 that were pretty fucking funny,
00:35:20.060 actually.
00:35:20.620 And I thought that
00:35:21.720 that was a lot of fun.
00:35:22.640 I said, okay, cool.
00:35:23.320 We got cool Kanye back.
00:35:24.560 And then he's like,
00:35:25.140 hey, look at my wife's tits.
00:35:26.580 And I'm like, that's not fun.
00:35:28.760 That's not, that's not,
00:35:30.280 I miss the old Kanye.
00:35:31.520 You know what I'm saying?
00:35:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:32.640 Can't you put like a mask on
00:35:33.720 and have a little flag
00:35:34.520 or something and say something?
00:35:35.360 Something, do something.
00:35:36.980 It's like you're like
00:35:37.760 fucking pimping your girl out.
00:35:39.620 And that's the thing
00:35:40.640 that upsets me, right?
00:35:41.420 Because this is the same guy
00:35:42.240 that made Jesus is King,
00:35:43.480 which I thought
00:35:44.060 was a phenomenal album.
00:35:45.540 And he's one of my favorite artists.
00:35:48.060 He always has me.
00:35:48.700 He might be my favorite artist.
00:35:50.240 And I'm not somebody
00:35:51.040 who absorbs
00:35:51.960 a tremendous amount of music.
00:35:52.980 So that's not saying much.
00:35:54.380 It's not like I'm a music savant
00:35:55.620 by any means.
00:35:56.440 I just like Kanye.
00:35:57.020 No, I think he's very intelligent
00:35:57.380 and very talented, I actually do.
00:35:58.680 Yeah, so.
00:35:59.180 I do think he is.
00:36:01.100 I, I, he's definitely,
00:36:02.860 he's, he plays,
00:36:04.240 just going back to what we said before,
00:36:05.460 a much larger role in the script
00:36:07.540 than I think a lot of people
00:36:08.400 give him credit for.
00:36:09.200 And I think we're going to see that
00:36:10.560 come to pass.
00:36:11.440 But what do you think at all?
00:36:13.000 What is he doing?
00:36:13.940 Do you think this is the real Kanye?
00:36:16.020 No, I think they all play characters
00:36:17.720 to an extent.
00:36:19.420 I mean, I'm sure there's some,
00:36:20.740 I would even say sometimes
00:36:22.220 when he's a little loft,
00:36:23.160 that might be the more real him
00:36:24.440 after fucking with magic.
00:36:26.060 Because I've even said that before.
00:36:27.320 You fuck with magic too much
00:36:28.720 or too often,
00:36:29.320 you'll end up like Kanye West
00:36:30.460 or Joe Biden.
00:36:32.520 Yeah.
00:36:33.080 Like on the regular,
00:36:33.980 like on the regular,
00:36:34.820 that will be you.
00:36:35.880 There was a Kanye West video
00:36:37.780 that came out.
00:36:38.600 I think it was,
00:36:39.600 we used to be,
00:36:41.040 I forgot what the hell
00:36:41.900 the title of it is.
00:36:42.720 It came out in like 2007.
00:36:44.940 It was a long time ago.
00:36:46.560 And, and, you know,
00:36:49.100 long story short,
00:36:49.880 he's at a dance,
00:36:50.840 he's at a party,
00:36:51.840 he's, he's drugged up,
00:36:53.420 he's drunk,
00:36:54.040 and he's just navigating through it.
00:36:55.760 It's like a fever dream.
00:36:56.860 Next thing you know,
00:36:57.400 he ends up in a bathroom
00:36:58.840 and he is cutting out of his own gut
00:37:01.600 this small bear,
00:37:03.240 sort of.
00:37:03.620 It's a,
00:37:04.340 I remembered it as,
00:37:05.920 Oh, that's what I thought it was.
00:37:08.900 But when I rewatched it,
00:37:09.900 I was like,
00:37:10.240 that doesn't even look like,
00:37:11.820 my memory was skewed.
00:37:12.940 I thought it looked like
00:37:13.460 the college dropout bear.
00:37:14.440 I still think it represents
00:37:15.720 the same thing
00:37:17.080 that that bear represents for him,
00:37:18.580 which is,
00:37:19.320 I don't know,
00:37:19.760 sort of this innocence
00:37:20.680 that was associated
00:37:21.640 with his mother.
00:37:23.180 The death of his mother,
00:37:24.400 he's called it a sacrifice.
00:37:25.480 And then in this video,
00:37:26.720 he's taking this bear out
00:37:28.120 and he is,
00:37:29.740 he gives it a small knife
00:37:30.800 and he motions to it
00:37:32.760 to kill itself.
00:37:33.900 And then this bear does it.
00:37:35.460 It jams the knife in,
00:37:36.740 it opens itself up,
00:37:37.680 its intestines fall out.
00:37:38.940 And then,
00:37:39.740 you know,
00:37:40.540 Kanye returns to the party.
00:37:41.780 Now,
00:37:42.220 even in the,
00:37:42.900 even in the grand scheme of things,
00:37:44.140 the albums in between
00:37:45.860 where this happened,
00:37:46.760 it was like definitively
00:37:48.900 the albums that were representative
00:37:50.820 of like an old Kanye West.
00:37:52.420 And then after that video,
00:37:54.200 he goes on to release like,
00:37:55.840 what is it?
00:37:56.280 My Beautiful Dark Nightmare
00:37:58.040 or whatever the hell
00:37:58.700 the name of the album is.
00:37:59.900 This was right after 808s
00:38:01.240 and Heartbreak.
00:38:02.640 And then he just goes into
00:38:04.100 this really significant
00:38:06.580 cultural moving Kanye West
00:38:09.120 after this moment.
00:38:10.180 So that's a guy,
00:38:10.860 yeah,
00:38:11.020 that's just steeped in,
00:38:12.640 in this magic.
00:38:13.740 And maybe you're right.
00:38:15.060 Maybe it causes you
00:38:15.840 to lose your mind
00:38:16.860 if you,
00:38:17.280 if you look too long
00:38:18.320 into the abyss.
00:38:19.300 Well,
00:38:19.800 I,
00:38:19.960 I just,
00:38:21.340 my opinion,
00:38:21.840 this is like kind of
00:38:22.580 what happens.
00:38:23.040 And I don't even think
00:38:23.540 this is part of psychic warfare
00:38:24.860 is you're going to just
00:38:25.880 throw somebody out
00:38:26.660 to the abyss.
00:38:27.980 My opinion,
00:38:28.700 when you start fucking
00:38:29.500 with magic,
00:38:30.020 you are losing form.
00:38:32.960 And believe it or not,
00:38:34.220 the less structure
00:38:35.220 and the less form to things
00:38:36.660 is the most chaotic
00:38:38.020 and scary it can get
00:38:39.220 because you can't
00:38:39.860 understand it.
00:38:42.040 It's hard to explain,
00:38:43.280 but like,
00:38:44.200 I do think due to
00:38:45.460 the lack of structure
00:38:46.600 and starting to get formless,
00:38:50.180 it's,
00:38:50.860 it can take a toll
00:38:51.780 on,
00:38:52.120 on your brain,
00:38:52.720 on your psyche.
00:38:54.820 It's like you start
00:38:56.040 unraveling your own identity.
00:38:58.240 Is that what you're talking about
00:38:59.380 when you're expressing
00:39:00.220 this idea of the abyss
00:39:01.340 that you're continuing,
00:39:02.820 continuing to cross?
00:39:04.440 Yeah,
00:39:04.660 well,
00:39:05.020 I'll just throw that out there too.
00:39:06.720 Like I mentioned before,
00:39:07.500 some of the secrets
00:39:08.180 are secrets.
00:39:08.680 In my opinion,
00:39:09.260 if you're actually having
00:39:10.120 a real magical,
00:39:11.120 magical experience,
00:39:12.160 you're committing
00:39:12.640 temporary suicide.
00:39:14.180 You're separating
00:39:14.960 your soul from your body.
00:39:17.600 Is that it?
00:39:18.720 Hold on,
00:39:19.180 wait.
00:39:19.260 Because that right there
00:39:23.220 was a really heavy bomb
00:39:24.600 you just dropped on us
00:39:25.480 and I want to take that
00:39:26.360 away from the people actually
00:39:27.400 and I want to make this
00:39:28.060 come over to patreon.com
00:39:29.320 backslash
00:39:30.300 up on the bottom too.
00:39:32.300 I was like,
00:39:32.500 oh,
00:39:32.620 this is perfect.
00:39:33.780 That was perfect timing
00:39:34.920 because this is something
00:39:35.820 that is,
00:39:36.380 I'm excited to explore this.
00:39:38.400 This is something
00:39:39.060 that I used to get deeper into
00:39:40.320 and then when I became
00:39:41.080 a father and a husband,
00:39:42.020 I kind of backed off that
00:39:43.040 because I had to
00:39:43.840 be able to build a life,
00:39:45.480 you know,
00:39:45.680 but what you're talking
00:39:46.320 about right now,
00:39:46.880 you're cooking.
00:39:47.380 Guys,
00:39:47.620 listen,
00:39:47.840 if you want to listen
00:39:49.060 to the rest of this episode,
00:39:50.140 you got to go over
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00:39:51.480 backslash
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00:39:52.820 continue watching along,
00:39:54.060 enjoying an ad-free experience
00:39:55.540 and gaining access
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00:40:00.360 and the episode
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00:40:04.560 guys.
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00:40:06.300 bye-bye.
00:40:08.200 All right,
00:40:09.020 so this is,
00:40:10.920 can you just repeat that?
00:40:12.920 It's a form of suicide.
00:40:14.640 Let's start with that.
00:40:15.740 What do you mean by that,
00:40:16.460 a form of suicide?
00:40:18.700 In my opinion,
00:40:19.720 to have a magical experience,
00:40:21.060 you're actually going to kind of like,
00:40:22.760 your soul's going to slip out of your body.
00:40:24.280 You're going to have to be okay
00:40:25.280 with like giving up everything
00:40:26.900 in a little moment of time.
00:40:30.000 Like,
00:40:30.200 I mean,
00:40:30.420 that's,
00:40:30.820 to me,
00:40:31.040 that's the ultimate sacrifice.
00:40:32.820 You're going to have to,
00:40:34.440 I mean,
00:40:34.740 in a sense,
00:40:35.620 if you want to get into it,
00:40:37.300 like,
00:40:37.440 you really look at it.
00:40:38.480 One,
00:40:38.820 not to get too deep into it,
00:40:40.340 I do think,
00:40:41.340 again,
00:40:41.680 your eyeballs
00:40:42.400 put a play into this.
00:40:45.600 Like,
00:40:45.740 the way you're even seeing
00:40:46.880 when your body changes,
00:40:48.060 there's an alchemical process
00:40:49.220 going on inside of you,
00:40:50.300 I think,
00:40:50.660 before you actually click out.
00:40:52.160 But like,
00:40:52.520 the light in your eyes
00:40:53.240 will go out.
00:40:54.860 And,
00:40:55.220 you will kind of start
00:40:56.820 like riding back up your eye.
00:40:59.200 And,
00:40:59.540 fuck,
00:41:00.700 I forgot where I was going with that.
00:41:02.080 But we're talking about this idea
00:41:03.340 of these experiences
00:41:05.160 being a form of suicide.
00:41:07.520 Yeah,
00:41:07.860 yeah,
00:41:08.060 yeah.
00:41:08.400 There was something
00:41:08.960 I was trying to get to that.
00:41:10.520 You will,
00:41:11.340 in my opinion,
00:41:12.000 one,
00:41:12.300 I do,
00:41:12.620 there's two things
00:41:13.140 I want to preface
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00:42:44.880 Now, first off,
00:42:46.080 I was not even doing drugs
00:42:48.140 for probably about 17 years.
00:42:49.800 I wasn't even smoking weed.
00:42:51.720 So when I had these experiences,
00:42:53.360 there was no drug use actually at all.
00:42:55.740 It wasn't until COVID
00:42:56.640 that I was like,
00:42:57.960 just to deal with these crazy motherfuckers,
00:42:59.720 I got to start smoking weed again
00:43:01.160 because it was just fucking insanity.
00:43:03.520 I was like,
00:43:03.880 I got to go out into public stone
00:43:05.180 to deal with this.
00:43:05.820 So I started smoking weed then.
00:43:08.180 That was after any magical experiences I had.
00:43:10.500 And when I did these,
00:43:12.460 when I had these experiences,
00:43:13.600 I was sitting in a chair
00:43:15.040 and no ritual was even done.
00:43:18.160 Just meditation.
00:43:19.940 In my opinion,
00:43:21.120 in the meditation,
00:43:22.320 just due to doing it over years
00:43:24.100 and letting your body start to calm down,
00:43:27.320 believe it or not,
00:43:28.140 we've all heard these stories
00:43:29.540 probably about like all these monks
00:43:30.760 that go into these meditations
00:43:31.880 and look like they're dead.
00:43:33.460 Yeah.
00:43:34.500 My opinion,
00:43:35.640 just even put it this way.
00:43:36.840 If you think,
00:43:37.520 God isn't in the physical form.
00:43:39.480 I mean,
00:43:39.660 he might be within all of us,
00:43:41.040 but what makes you think
00:43:42.520 a physical form
00:43:43.240 is going to be able to talk to a spirit?
00:43:44.720 No,
00:43:44.860 you're going to have to separate the flesh.
00:43:47.220 And the other thing
00:43:48.040 I was getting about too
00:43:48.960 with the eyeball,
00:43:49.960 even in the back of your eye,
00:43:51.400 the all the way
00:43:52.220 in the back of your eye
00:43:53.080 before you go up the optic nerve
00:43:54.420 and you take the sunlight
00:43:55.400 and transmute it into electricity,
00:43:56.980 which pumps
00:43:58.000 and powers your whole body.
00:43:59.780 Once you get to that point,
00:44:01.400 there is blood
00:44:02.400 in the back of your eye,
00:44:03.560 not in the front,
00:44:05.060 but there's blood.
00:44:05.840 And if you're about to give up your body
00:44:08.460 and you're leaving that part of your eyeball,
00:44:10.360 there may be a blood sacrifice involved,
00:44:12.620 but it's just yours.
00:44:14.760 Interesting.
00:44:16.040 Interesting.
00:44:16.840 You're going to have to kill yourself
00:44:19.360 and everybody else technically in your world
00:44:21.760 because you have an attachment to them.
00:44:23.700 You have a love for people
00:44:25.420 and you're going to have to slay their images
00:44:27.400 in your mind
00:44:28.500 to where they don't exist
00:44:29.860 and you take the handcuffs off
00:44:31.580 and you give up
00:44:33.760 every fucking thing
00:44:35.380 you have fell in love with
00:44:36.540 and decide to give it up
00:44:37.980 to talk to God.
00:44:40.220 Because I'm the one
00:44:41.240 who walked away from him.
00:44:42.300 He hasn't walked away from me.
00:44:44.100 I fell in love with everything
00:44:45.580 that Lucifer wanted to give me
00:44:47.020 with my eyes open.
00:44:49.360 I'm in Lucifer's world.
00:44:50.940 I'm addicted to everything
00:44:51.960 that shows light.
00:44:53.580 I have to give that shit up
00:44:55.020 and talk to God.
00:44:55.920 That's my opinion.
00:44:57.960 It's not an opinion.
00:44:59.140 That's like we talk about on the show.
00:45:01.160 It's a principle here.
00:45:02.780 This idea of blood sacrifice.
00:45:05.100 A lot of people will be like,
00:45:06.980 well, why would God make it
00:45:08.720 so that you have to do sacrifices
00:45:11.100 in order to get XYZ?
00:45:13.340 It's like, well,
00:45:13.700 that's just the principles of this world, man.
00:45:16.100 I mean, when he asked Abraham
00:45:18.580 to slay his son,
00:45:20.140 it's sort of the same thing.
00:45:21.380 This is a blood sacrifice.
00:45:23.480 Jesus Christ, it's a blood sacrifice
00:45:25.440 in order to do
00:45:26.540 whatever needs to be done here.
00:45:28.560 There actually has to be
00:45:29.560 a physical thing that happens.
00:45:32.320 It's like part of the ability
00:45:33.780 to transmutate this realm.
00:45:35.480 Yes.
00:45:35.880 That's how you do it.
00:45:36.980 Those are the rules.
00:45:38.100 Those are the rules.
00:45:38.740 Yeah, those are the rules.
00:45:39.760 Look, this is...
00:45:40.680 Okay, so what you're talking about, Nick,
00:45:41.900 is endlessly interesting to me
00:45:44.640 because my brain is going everywhere right now.
00:45:46.160 I know that there's a functionality of fear
00:45:48.580 within this process, right?
00:45:50.420 And fear is this...
00:45:51.800 They call it like the mind killer, right?
00:45:53.260 The Bible says,
00:45:54.340 fear not all these times
00:45:55.880 over and over again.
00:45:56.700 Every psychedelic experience I've ever had
00:46:00.040 was all the positive aspects of it
00:46:02.600 laid on the other side of giving up
00:46:04.940 and allowing this fear to fade from me
00:46:06.940 because much of the fear in everything
00:46:09.260 is about your ability
00:46:10.960 to control the scenario, right?
00:46:12.840 Because it's the fear of the unknown.
00:46:14.800 You don't know where this is going
00:46:15.740 if you can't control it.
00:46:16.640 So when you're doing psychedelics
00:46:17.840 or even a meditative process
00:46:20.220 that gives you insight
00:46:21.820 to these corners of your mind
00:46:22.960 that you're not typically accessing,
00:46:24.520 there is, especially when it lays
00:46:26.660 within yourself, right?
00:46:28.120 This chaos, these, you know,
00:46:29.740 whatever primordial chaotic waters
00:46:32.860 that sort of live within you
00:46:34.600 to some degree you can access.
00:46:35.960 It's fucking terrifying.
00:46:37.320 It's terrifying to look at these things.
00:46:39.340 And so when you hold onto it,
00:46:40.700 like you said something about
00:46:41.820 you have to kill all of these things
00:46:45.220 that are meaningful to you.
00:46:46.600 When I was younger,
00:46:47.680 I don't think I nailed this process
00:46:49.140 by any means at all,
00:46:50.460 but I had that experience
00:46:52.080 where for whatever reason I was,
00:46:54.340 I was, I was on a tremendous amount
00:46:56.020 of ecstasy and alcohol,
00:46:57.320 but the procedure,
00:46:59.660 the process,
00:47:00.100 For whatever reason.
00:47:00.960 For whatever reason.
00:47:01.460 No, no, no, no, no.
00:47:01.900 That's not the whatever reason.
00:47:03.120 For whatever reason,
00:47:03.820 I was shown a series of images
00:47:06.100 of things that I loved
00:47:07.500 and then they were being destroyed.
00:47:09.220 And that thing that I loved
00:47:11.000 that was being destroyed
00:47:11.860 was fucking way too much
00:47:13.580 for me to handle.
00:47:14.200 I think I was like 16 years old
00:47:15.740 and it ended finally.
00:47:18.020 I was like, I love my mom.
00:47:19.260 And it showed my mom
00:47:20.680 just fucking like bursting
00:47:21.900 into guts and blood.
00:47:23.460 And, and I had to get up.
00:47:25.180 I got up and I saw through
00:47:26.320 a film of, of red.
00:47:28.440 But after this moment,
00:47:29.900 because that wasn't the end
00:47:31.300 of my psychedelic use,
00:47:32.380 I realized because of that experience
00:47:34.520 that I was, well, not, not,
00:47:37.880 I just realized that fear
00:47:39.100 was the driving mechanism
00:47:40.340 that was causing me to like
00:47:42.580 crash out in these experiences.
00:47:44.460 And that if I could let go
00:47:46.660 that I wouldn't have at least,
00:47:49.600 at least I could control
00:47:51.580 how I, how I felt about the things
00:47:53.200 I was being subjected to.
00:47:54.960 And, and by that, I mean,
00:47:56.280 if I let go of the fear,
00:47:57.640 then I no longer have
00:47:59.220 to be subjected to it.
00:48:00.440 And then I could go on this experience
00:48:02.760 wherever it takes me.
00:48:03.840 And that, by the way,
00:48:06.200 echoes into the physical realm
00:48:07.700 and, and becomes sort of the,
00:48:09.900 the guiding rules
00:48:12.260 for how you interact with this realm.
00:48:14.100 It's like everything that is good
00:48:15.560 oftentimes is on the other end of fear.
00:48:18.060 And that's, that's with any journey
00:48:19.580 that you're going on, right?
00:48:20.440 Like we talk often
00:48:21.160 about the hero's journey
00:48:22.080 and how we're, we're all able
00:48:23.980 to go on this journey
00:48:25.100 to go delve into chaos
00:48:26.620 and retrieve something valuable
00:48:27.920 and, and, and come out of it.
00:48:29.400 But you don't go there
00:48:30.820 if you give into fear.
00:48:31.820 So this, this fear mechanism
00:48:33.240 plays a huge part in stopping you.
00:48:35.460 And it's the key to, what's that?
00:48:38.140 The orphan of me even tells you that.
00:48:39.460 Don't fear.
00:48:40.740 Yes.
00:48:41.840 Yes.
00:48:42.560 I mean, they say it's,
00:48:43.540 you will see them
00:48:44.060 before you have a magical experience.
00:48:46.160 Wait, who will you see
00:48:47.520 before a magical experience?
00:48:49.000 In a, in a, in a way
00:48:50.500 that I think you're viewing it,
00:48:52.000 you will see kind of the orphan
00:48:53.260 to an extent
00:48:54.160 right before you blast off.
00:48:56.840 You know?
00:48:57.460 I mean, one thing too
00:48:58.400 that you're even mentioning
00:48:59.120 about fear.
00:48:59.760 If you start understanding
00:49:00.820 what you're actually going through
00:49:02.260 and what's happening to you,
00:49:04.260 do you know, like,
00:49:04.940 what you have to be okay with
00:49:06.240 to even practice magic still?
00:49:08.740 If you start realizing
00:49:09.680 I'm actually committing suicide
00:49:10.920 and there's a chance
00:49:12.400 I may not come back,
00:49:14.220 you're going to have to deal
00:49:15.100 with that fear
00:49:15.540 to even keep going with it.
00:49:17.200 That's it.
00:49:18.060 Yeah.
00:49:18.400 And they call it like the ego death,
00:49:20.020 but I don't think that that was a feeling.
00:49:21.540 There is a specific feeling.
00:49:22.960 I have only felt
00:49:23.800 experiencing magic
00:49:24.900 that when you feel that feeling
00:49:26.160 come over your body,
00:49:27.540 you know what's going to happen.
00:49:29.920 And you have to,
00:49:30.700 in a split second,
00:49:31.440 make that decision.
00:49:32.200 Am I willing
00:49:32.660 to give it all up
00:49:33.920 to have a moment with God again
00:49:35.920 and maybe not come back?
00:49:37.480 What's that feeling like?
00:49:38.780 Can you describe that a little bit?
00:49:42.060 Whenever I play,
00:49:43.540 whenever I have messed with magic,
00:49:45.880 practiced magic,
00:49:47.500 you know,
00:49:47.640 I will get these visuals too,
00:49:49.060 but then these feelings
00:49:49.940 will come up right near the end
00:49:51.360 before I start the,
00:49:52.480 you know,
00:49:52.680 I guess I call it blasting off
00:49:53.920 or riding the lightning.
00:49:56.320 We'll start from the bottom of my feet
00:49:58.060 and it will almost start to feel like
00:50:00.560 like energy is like kind of rising up
00:50:02.220 and like,
00:50:02.680 let's say by the time
00:50:03.380 it gets to my knees,
00:50:04.400 everything below it has disappeared.
00:50:05.960 Like it actually feels
00:50:06.840 like I'm being erased.
00:50:08.180 Like it just is just,
00:50:09.300 you know,
00:50:09.480 disappearing.
00:50:10.480 And we'll start to like,
00:50:12.100 kind of almost like Tron.
00:50:13.460 Remember back in the day
00:50:14.240 when it showed like the guy
00:50:14.980 getting sucked into the computer?
00:50:16.960 Yeah.
00:50:17.580 Yeah.
00:50:17.780 Yeah.
00:50:18.000 I've seen that.
00:50:18.700 And I was like,
00:50:19.140 yo,
00:50:19.980 that's exactly how I felt.
00:50:22.660 Like where he's kind of digitally
00:50:23.960 like pixelating.
00:50:25.300 He's yeah,
00:50:25.740 yeah,
00:50:25.900 yeah.
00:50:26.560 It's like sucking him in
00:50:27.680 from like bottom up
00:50:28.620 and maybe it was top down.
00:50:30.340 I don't remember,
00:50:30.680 but it just reminded me of that.
00:50:32.060 But like,
00:50:32.320 it will start to go up
00:50:33.320 and as it gets like closer
00:50:34.660 to like my stomach
00:50:35.720 and chest area,
00:50:36.540 it's like I start to feel
00:50:37.520 it build up within myself.
00:50:39.740 And then all of a sudden
00:50:40.940 it will feel like
00:50:41.800 the best way I can explain it
00:50:43.480 is like if I was laying
00:50:45.240 on the beach
00:50:45.840 and the waves crashed
00:50:47.380 and the water was rolling
00:50:48.600 up the shore
00:50:49.480 and I was laying there
00:50:50.680 and somehow
00:50:51.420 if like my feet were open
00:50:53.460 and the water could go
00:50:54.260 through my body,
00:50:55.100 you will literally start
00:50:56.320 to feel like these waves
00:50:57.420 of trickling
00:50:58.060 going through your whole body.
00:50:59.180 and then it just starts
00:51:01.060 to like build up
00:51:01.880 into here
00:51:02.540 and then at some point
00:51:04.620 another thing is
00:51:06.020 is this whole time
00:51:07.000 I'm doing this
00:51:07.560 I am pressing
00:51:08.180 on my pineal gland.
00:51:10.240 I'm like putting pressure
00:51:11.160 on it like really hard
00:51:12.080 and holding it
00:51:12.760 to hold the image
00:51:14.160 I'm even seeing.
00:51:15.580 And at some point
00:51:16.560 something happens
00:51:18.260 I think the polarity changes
00:51:19.560 and my forcing
00:51:21.400 now feels like something
00:51:23.340 fucking like
00:51:24.640 it's like pulling the trigger.
00:51:25.860 I mean technically
00:51:27.280 even with the images
00:51:28.060 that I'm seeing
00:51:28.560 it looks like you know
00:51:29.200 a blast of looking
00:51:30.060 down the trigger
00:51:30.620 like it's just a fucking
00:51:31.400 bullet just
00:51:32.080 comes flying at you
00:51:34.220 and it feels like
00:51:35.320 now that you're like
00:51:35.960 again like you're pushing
00:51:37.160 has somewhere
00:51:37.820 taken a magnetic spin
00:51:39.460 and now it's flying
00:51:40.920 back at you
00:51:41.760 all of a sudden
00:51:42.820 it feels like something
00:51:43.540 cracks in my head
00:51:44.440 and then all that pressure
00:51:46.600 comes all the way up
00:51:47.900 feels like like a vacuum
00:51:49.300 just sucking right out of me
00:51:51.200 and dissipating
00:51:51.860 out the top of my head.
00:51:53.100 Right.
00:51:53.980 It's interesting
00:51:54.680 right where the Jews
00:51:55.460 put their yarmulke
00:51:56.140 every time
00:51:57.720 right there
00:51:58.480 and for me
00:51:59.720 it'd be easy to see
00:52:00.680 but if you put a yarmulke
00:52:01.540 on my head
00:52:02.120 and then took a picture of it
00:52:03.140 it would look like
00:52:03.520 a fucking eyeball
00:52:04.140 and a pupil.
00:52:05.060 I don't know if that
00:52:05.480 has anything to do with it
00:52:06.500 but that's interesting
00:52:07.600 on your head for sure.
00:52:08.820 I don't know
00:52:09.140 on my head
00:52:10.020 you could easily see that.
00:52:11.460 Yeah but no
00:52:11.840 it comes out right
00:52:12.640 right back there
00:52:13.500 and at that moment
00:52:14.760 it literally feels like
00:52:15.860 I just like lost
00:52:16.880 I go weightless.
00:52:18.160 I literally feel
00:52:19.480 the hate
00:52:20.420 the guilt
00:52:21.180 the fear
00:52:21.940 everything just
00:52:22.600 start to melt off
00:52:24.020 and I feel
00:52:25.020 completely weightless
00:52:26.280 and all I feel
00:52:27.160 is like
00:52:27.700 if you took
00:52:28.940 the feeling of love
00:52:30.060 and magnified it
00:52:31.520 by a million times
00:52:32.420 something that you
00:52:33.120 can't even explain
00:52:33.980 in this world
00:52:34.540 that is exactly
00:52:35.260 what everything
00:52:35.760 gets replaced with
00:52:36.640 and I just feel like
00:52:37.800 just this vibrating
00:52:38.740 feeling of intense love
00:52:40.480 and I just get
00:52:42.100 these visions
00:52:42.680 and it feels like
00:52:43.820 even in my head
00:52:45.040 that I just start
00:52:45.920 spreading out
00:52:46.800 and you become
00:52:47.700 like part of the fabric
00:52:48.600 and you're just
00:52:50.380 like part of
00:52:51.140 you're part of
00:52:52.140 whatever your vision
00:52:53.400 you're seeing
00:52:54.220 you're not like
00:52:55.540 separated from it
00:52:56.480 it's like you're in it
00:52:57.420 just
00:52:57.720 believe it or not
00:52:59.520 as weird as it is
00:53:01.060 and I've always said
00:53:02.240 I think NASA's just
00:53:03.400 you know occultism
00:53:04.840 you know whatever
00:53:05.620 it's part of the
00:53:06.380 occult part of the government
00:53:07.440 a lot of their
00:53:08.560 images of what
00:53:09.980 Aurora is
00:53:10.600 and all the shit
00:53:11.040 out in space
00:53:11.660 it's a lot of
00:53:12.660 what I see
00:53:13.540 interesting
00:53:14.740 you're doing
00:53:16.240 you're doing like
00:53:17.200 a realm slip
00:53:19.280 but you're doing it
00:53:20.420 without the
00:53:21.060 use of psychedelics
00:53:22.700 which most people
00:53:23.900 will use
00:53:24.440 are you
00:53:25.860 are you
00:53:26.660 employing like
00:53:28.040 the practices
00:53:28.580 of like remote
00:53:29.500 viewers like
00:53:30.000 dark room
00:53:30.760 or I don't know
00:53:32.440 float tanks
00:53:33.040 or stuff like that
00:53:33.600 or you're just
00:53:34.320 I had to use
00:53:35.240 a float tank
00:53:35.820 but I never
00:53:36.320 I never
00:53:37.280 tried to like
00:53:38.940 practice magic
00:53:40.380 in a float tank
00:53:40.980 you probably had to go a lot
00:53:42.860 but that would
00:53:43.800 definitely
00:53:45.140 there were certain things
00:53:47.680 I mean maybe if I get into it
00:53:49.140 or not
00:53:49.460 with the visuals
00:53:50.560 with magic
00:53:51.400 I can bring myself
00:53:52.540 very close to having
00:53:53.500 a magical effect
00:53:54.360 and not doing it now
00:53:55.340 I can do that
00:53:56.180 in a deep meditation
00:53:57.040 I was able to do that
00:53:58.360 extremely fast
00:53:59.220 in a float tank
00:53:59.820 huh
00:54:00.960 but I just
00:54:01.760 have lost off
00:54:02.540 as far as these visuals go
00:54:05.360 because I've always had
00:54:06.180 the ability to do a thing
00:54:07.300 that is seemingly useless
00:54:09.080 and it's just that if I
00:54:11.160 autopilot erection
00:54:12.540 no not the autopilot erection
00:54:14.240 that I could do
00:54:14.820 and that's also fucking useless
00:54:15.900 I'm kind of the king
00:54:16.620 of useless shit
00:54:17.280 so one of the things
00:54:19.220 that I can do is
00:54:20.280 I can close my eyes
00:54:22.760 and pick one spot
00:54:24.340 in particular
00:54:25.060 in the sort of the darkness
00:54:26.880 and there's some
00:54:27.820 fluctuating color there
00:54:28.920 everybody knows that
00:54:29.580 right if you close your eyes
00:54:30.400 you're not just seeing black
00:54:31.560 like sometimes you're seeing
00:54:32.460 odulating clouds of
00:54:34.300 I don't know
00:54:35.560 other shades
00:54:36.280 bursts are just like
00:54:37.700 yeah bursts
00:54:38.140 so if I pick one spot
00:54:41.400 in that
00:54:41.840 as if it is actually
00:54:43.020 a physical canvas
00:54:44.860 that I'm looking at
00:54:45.700 and I kind of hone in on it
00:54:47.520 I can move all that shit
00:54:48.840 out of the way
00:54:49.400 all the expanding
00:54:50.640 you know contracting
00:54:52.000 colors
00:54:52.780 and then I'm just left
00:54:54.100 with wheeling stars
00:54:55.960 just stars
00:54:57.460 like black canvas
00:54:58.740 and stars
00:54:59.620 and I'm moving through them
00:55:01.700 and that's fucking it
00:55:03.300 that's the end of it
00:55:04.360 it never yields anything
00:55:05.460 I mean sometimes I'll see
00:55:06.280 other stuff while
00:55:07.000 I can't close my eyes
00:55:08.380 fucking unbelievable
00:55:09.260 sometimes I'll see
00:55:10.860 other stuff that like
00:55:12.020 I don't know
00:55:13.380 looks like
00:55:14.160 sometimes it looks like
00:55:16.500 it's
00:55:17.060 a spot that wants
00:55:19.760 to open up
00:55:20.460 but otherwise
00:55:21.700 there's
00:55:22.620 it's nothing
00:55:23.120 I've been able to do it
00:55:23.740 my entire life
00:55:24.440 and it feels like
00:55:25.640 absolutely nothing
00:55:26.560 but is that
00:55:27.320 part of something
00:55:28.320 do you see shit like that
00:55:29.660 mine all starts off
00:55:31.680 with at some point
00:55:32.700 when I'm meditating
00:55:33.640 again now I said
00:55:34.940 I always focus
00:55:35.880 on my third eye
00:55:36.580 eventually
00:55:37.820 I could spend
00:55:38.920 15-20 minutes
00:55:39.700 just getting into
00:55:40.380 a meditation
00:55:40.880 doing like work
00:55:41.620 where I'm just like
00:55:42.140 visualizing energy
00:55:43.440 go up and down
00:55:44.220 and start focusing
00:55:44.800 on my chakras
00:55:45.440 but eventually
00:55:46.220 once I focus
00:55:47.600 on my third eye
00:55:48.400 and start pushing on it
00:55:49.500 while I have my eyes
00:55:50.240 closed and I'm meditating
00:55:51.140 it will all of a sudden
00:55:52.720 get extremely black
00:55:54.040 and you're talking
00:55:54.580 about a star
00:55:55.380 now I know Crowley
00:55:57.040 and again
00:55:57.520 when I bring this guy's name up
00:55:59.280 I'm not trying to promote him
00:56:00.520 or pimp him out
00:56:01.520 I do think he was
00:56:02.280 a degenerate
00:56:03.220 but I do think
00:56:03.660 he was an occult genius
00:56:05.460 his whole thing
00:56:06.600 with every man
00:56:07.140 and every woman
00:56:07.700 is a star
00:56:08.320 I will see one star
00:56:10.940 at a bunch of them
00:56:12.740 and if I push on my pineal gland
00:56:15.560 as I catch it in my image
00:56:17.360 it's almost like
00:56:18.380 I have to like lock onto it
00:56:19.860 I will catch that one burning dot
00:56:23.260 and eventually
00:56:24.160 it will start to come closer
00:56:25.380 and it turns into an eclipse
00:56:26.540 but it does look like
00:56:27.840 a burning star
00:56:28.760 like in the night sky
00:56:30.460 like it literally
00:56:31.480 looks like burning
00:56:33.120 glowing white
00:56:34.000 and like
00:56:34.480 there's like these weird shapes
00:56:36.260 that
00:56:36.640 if you were to draw clouds
00:56:38.460 on a book
00:56:38.980 and you just took
00:56:40.260 whatever the pencil was
00:56:41.860 or the pen that you used
00:56:42.840 to draw it
00:56:43.320 and like threw that
00:56:44.480 into I guess like
00:56:45.200 black
00:56:46.020 but
00:56:46.400 shined light behind it
00:56:48.340 you'd see like these outlines
00:56:50.420 like in black
00:56:51.400 to where it almost looks like
00:56:52.660 clouds behind
00:56:54.080 a burning
00:56:54.800 or in front of a burning white dot
00:56:56.800 it's really hard to explain
00:56:58.520 because again
00:56:59.280 even with magic
00:57:00.040 certain visuals
00:57:00.840 and feelings I've had
00:57:01.880 I can't even explain it
00:57:03.240 in English
00:57:03.740 you're pushing on
00:57:05.920 inside myself
00:57:07.720 not with my finger
00:57:08.980 like
00:57:09.200 oh okay
00:57:09.800 I'm holding on to the chakra
00:57:11.420 and I'm pushing on to it
00:57:12.680 interesting
00:57:13.680 yeah
00:57:14.340 and I will see that white dot
00:57:15.860 you will get like
00:57:16.500 it looks like this burning star
00:57:18.160 in the darkness
00:57:18.760 and if I lock onto it
00:57:20.480 and pull it close
00:57:21.060 it turns into an eclipse
00:57:22.000 and then that's when
00:57:22.720 all the shit starts coming after that
00:57:24.880 I would consider our show
00:57:26.960 a Christian show
00:57:28.420 in the sense that
00:57:29.260 we believe Jesus Christ
00:57:30.160 is a central figure
00:57:31.040 and that he did die
00:57:32.480 for our sins
00:57:33.060 and that he is the way
00:57:34.000 and I almost feel like
00:57:34.880 what happened is
00:57:35.680 mankind got
00:57:36.940 really corrupted
00:57:38.160 with
00:57:38.640 sort of the offspring
00:57:40.020 of these angels
00:57:41.060 and humans
00:57:42.280 and it
00:57:42.820 corrupted our genome
00:57:44.140 but also the teachings
00:57:45.240 that were giving us
00:57:46.100 they twisted them
00:57:47.180 and inverted them
00:57:47.900 when they gave them to us
00:57:48.940 and then we
00:57:49.460 used them
00:57:50.480 and they corrupted us as well
00:57:51.740 and so
00:57:52.360 but
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00:58:54.160 that being said
00:58:55.400 and I feel like Jesus Christ
00:58:57.140 kind of wiped that slate clean
00:58:58.880 where things almost spiritually
00:59:00.380 got overly complicated
00:59:02.000 and um
00:59:03.340 and so
00:59:04.460 but
00:59:04.760 I recognize these things
00:59:06.220 as like
00:59:06.800 innate
00:59:07.400 to some degree
00:59:08.280 right
00:59:08.700 like
00:59:08.940 the fact that you can
00:59:10.680 do these
00:59:11.520 and
00:59:11.960 and gleam these things
00:59:13.260 doesn't necessarily
00:59:14.960 there's nothing that says
00:59:16.120 that they're bad
00:59:16.840 or that they're evil
00:59:17.740 really what you're gleaming
00:59:18.840 is is just a deeper understanding
00:59:20.480 of the realm that we inhabit
00:59:21.560 because it's far more than physical
00:59:22.880 right
00:59:23.160 it's a it's a spiritual realm
00:59:24.440 predominantly a spiritual realm
00:59:26.500 that we inhabit
00:59:27.300 and so
00:59:27.960 but
00:59:28.520 because of the way that
00:59:30.340 Christianity has kind of
00:59:31.580 sterilized itself
00:59:32.580 and given this
00:59:33.680 much more palatable version
00:59:35.420 uh to people
00:59:36.560 and and I don't know
00:59:37.300 if that's because
00:59:37.920 if that's purposeful subversion
00:59:39.660 or if that's meant to bolster
00:59:41.100 the church
00:59:41.640 so that there's more tithes
00:59:42.800 or whatever the case may be
00:59:44.080 um
00:59:44.880 the
00:59:45.300 we've given people
00:59:46.540 a watered down
00:59:47.520 version of it
00:59:48.600 and then what we've done
00:59:49.540 is we've turned to these teachings
00:59:50.780 and instead of cautioning people
00:59:53.120 against them
00:59:53.680 we've really just outright
00:59:54.540 called them evil
00:59:55.680 and it's like
00:59:56.220 is it evil
00:59:57.000 to notice that
00:59:58.480 like let's say like
00:59:59.200 numerology for example
01:00:00.380 that there is some sort of
01:00:01.880 inherent numerological value
01:00:03.760 to the realm that we inhabit
01:00:05.880 or like a sacred geometry
01:00:07.120 is it evil to observe
01:00:09.580 that geometry seemingly plays
01:00:11.720 a huge role
01:00:12.900 in not only our physical realm
01:00:14.800 but in the spiritual realm
01:00:16.020 um
01:00:16.460 and it seems like
01:00:17.220 we've thrown
01:00:17.760 the baby out
01:00:19.200 with the bath water
01:00:20.140 I mean let me ask you this
01:00:21.400 Nick
01:00:21.660 have you had
01:00:23.100 um
01:00:23.740 I myself have had run-ins
01:00:25.980 with negative entities
01:00:27.220 and
01:00:28.400 you're doing something
01:00:29.860 that's almost akin
01:00:30.800 to like a psychonaut
01:00:31.680 have you had any run-ins
01:00:33.340 with something
01:00:33.780 that you
01:00:34.200 deemed
01:00:35.240 was
01:00:36.040 ill-intented
01:00:37.000 or or negative
01:00:37.920 no
01:00:38.940 you know
01:00:39.660 the only time
01:00:40.340 anything ever happens
01:00:41.660 or like
01:00:42.000 whenever it stops
01:00:42.960 my experience
01:00:43.720 it's due to me
01:00:44.480 like starting to think
01:00:45.360 like about
01:00:45.920 what I'm doing
01:00:46.800 I guess
01:00:47.540 I start thinking
01:00:48.380 itself
01:00:48.820 and start questioning
01:00:49.940 what am I
01:00:51.040 and what's going on
01:00:51.760 and then it ends
01:00:52.300 but everything is for me
01:00:53.660 it's always been a
01:00:55.420 a positive experience
01:00:56.920 again
01:00:57.500 sometimes
01:00:58.120 you know
01:00:58.980 I I guess
01:01:00.320 sometimes maybe certain things
01:01:02.000 that might make sense to me
01:01:03.300 after the fact
01:01:03.880 might be a little bit hard
01:01:04.720 to swallow
01:01:05.300 but
01:01:05.660 I will say
01:01:06.620 it's always been a positive
01:01:07.560 positive thing for me
01:01:09.300 do you
01:01:10.860 there's been times
01:01:11.980 maybe earlier
01:01:12.760 in my magical career
01:01:14.060 when I was trying
01:01:14.780 to change this world
01:01:15.860 maybe
01:01:16.240 I don't know
01:01:17.340 if I got
01:01:18.260 you know
01:01:18.600 maybe I just ended up
01:01:19.420 picking up dirt
01:01:20.980 shit
01:01:22.020 you know
01:01:23.820 maybe
01:01:24.200 you know
01:01:25.900 your life may not
01:01:26.660 just go the best
01:01:27.340 when you're trying
01:01:27.760 to affect everybody
01:01:28.480 else's
01:01:28.880 well that's interesting
01:01:30.700 I found the same case
01:01:31.840 when I was
01:01:32.440 younger
01:01:33.320 and I was homeless
01:01:34.060 that was
01:01:35.340 interestingly enough
01:01:36.700 the time that I decided
01:01:38.080 it was
01:01:39.300 you know
01:01:40.260 when I should start
01:01:41.260 attacking and
01:01:42.080 exposing these
01:01:43.140 conspiracy theories
01:01:44.060 it was like
01:01:44.960 I didn't want to do
01:01:45.620 my own shit
01:01:46.200 I was homeless
01:01:46.920 I didn't want to
01:01:47.380 take care of me
01:01:48.000 instead I was ready
01:01:49.940 to tackle the rest
01:01:50.980 of the world
01:01:51.300 it kind of feels
01:01:51.940 like a fool's errand
01:01:52.980 now I'm much more
01:01:54.160 comfortable with
01:01:55.780 you know
01:01:56.660 I guess it is
01:01:57.320 internal works
01:01:57.980 right
01:01:58.180 it's you and your
01:01:58.900 relationship with God
01:01:59.940 you don't get too excited
01:02:01.580 and go out
01:02:02.100 and try to evangelize
01:02:03.440 to the world
01:02:03.940 and fix all the
01:02:04.640 problems
01:02:05.040 you said it before
01:02:06.060 this is Lucifer's world
01:02:07.080 right now
01:02:07.720 and you're not
01:02:09.560 going to fix that
01:02:10.220 but you can fix you
01:02:11.580 yes
01:02:12.340 yes
01:02:12.840 yes
01:02:13.200 and you know
01:02:13.800 one thing I do
01:02:14.260 want to just
01:02:14.680 twist out there too
01:02:15.620 some people might
01:02:16.900 find this a little
01:02:17.480 hard to believe
01:02:18.080 but due to having
01:02:19.360 magical experiences
01:02:20.320 I do have a lot
01:02:21.040 more respect
01:02:22.100 and admiration
01:02:22.900 for Catholicism
01:02:24.580 and Christianity
01:02:25.040 and the Bible
01:02:25.700 believe it or not
01:02:26.580 it has actually
01:02:27.700 made me
01:02:28.180 find it to be
01:02:29.740 more beautiful work
01:02:30.620 that was
01:02:32.640 very
01:02:33.560 very much
01:02:34.280 the way
01:02:34.520 that I
01:02:34.780 came to it
01:02:35.360 too
01:02:35.520 like I
01:02:35.860 started in
01:02:36.760 occultism
01:02:37.740 and trying to
01:02:38.220 understand those
01:02:38.800 things
01:02:39.140 and it's not
01:02:40.080 that I ever
01:02:40.440 got well
01:02:41.700 versed in it
01:02:42.300 but I
01:02:43.120 recognized the
01:02:43.800 elements of it
01:02:44.580 you know
01:02:45.300 in our
01:02:45.740 in our
01:02:46.080 culture
01:02:46.360 and in our
01:02:46.700 society
01:02:47.180 and I
01:02:48.040 wasn't
01:02:48.280 comfortable
01:02:48.620 with the
01:02:49.340 flippant
01:02:49.860 dismissal
01:02:50.440 oh these
01:02:51.280 things are
01:02:51.560 just put
01:02:51.900 there
01:02:52.120 because
01:02:52.780 they're
01:02:53.580 what would
01:02:55.280 you call
01:02:55.640 it like
01:02:56.120 inflammatory
01:02:57.080 and
01:02:58.120 you know
01:02:58.900 that's a
01:02:59.360 way to
01:02:59.740 kind of
01:03:00.320 like when
01:03:00.680 when people
01:03:01.420 are putting
01:03:01.740 it in their
01:03:02.020 music videos
01:03:02.620 or in
01:03:02.900 Hollywood
01:03:03.140 films
01:03:03.540 it's like
01:03:03.840 oh that's
01:03:04.140 just to be
01:03:04.500 edgy
01:03:04.800 and that
01:03:05.160 was kind
01:03:05.400 of what I
01:03:05.740 got a lot
01:03:06.540 of my
01:03:06.860 my childhood
01:03:07.600 was like
01:03:07.940 oh that's
01:03:08.260 just to be
01:03:08.620 edgy
01:03:08.920 so I had to
01:03:09.880 take it upon
01:03:10.260 myself to
01:03:11.380 look in these
01:03:11.780 things because
01:03:12.440 you know
01:03:12.880 especially back
01:03:13.560 then you don't
01:03:13.920 really have
01:03:14.360 anybody that's
01:03:14.940 going to explain
01:03:15.620 them to you
01:03:16.120 and then over
01:03:17.180 time
01:03:17.700 and I used
01:03:18.960 to look at
01:03:19.360 the Bible
01:03:19.760 and Christianity
01:03:20.700 and everything
01:03:21.280 as
01:03:21.840 I don't
01:03:23.440 know
01:03:23.580 I didn't
01:03:24.240 look at it
01:03:24.600 closely
01:03:24.940 but I
01:03:25.680 dismissed it
01:03:26.200 outright
01:03:26.580 as being
01:03:27.360 like
01:03:27.760 you know
01:03:29.440 religious
01:03:29.920 institutions
01:03:30.440 are corruptible
01:03:31.260 and also
01:03:33.060 who are they
01:03:34.440 to say
01:03:34.900 that they
01:03:35.220 have it
01:03:35.540 right
01:03:35.760 when there's
01:03:36.080 so many
01:03:36.340 different
01:03:36.540 denominations
01:03:37.160 and so
01:03:37.460 many different
01:03:37.860 other religions
01:03:38.480 and then as I
01:03:39.100 got older
01:03:39.720 I realized
01:03:40.440 that everything
01:03:40.800 that I had
01:03:41.180 been looking
01:03:41.580 at relates
01:03:42.660 to this
01:03:43.220 Christian
01:03:43.660 narrative
01:03:44.120 so intimately
01:03:45.580 that it was
01:03:46.540 worth looking
01:03:47.060 at and then
01:03:47.640 when I started
01:03:47.980 looking at it
01:03:48.480 I was like
01:03:48.820 oh there's
01:03:49.280 definitely
01:03:49.560 something here
01:03:50.180 so I can
01:03:51.080 I can see
01:03:52.160 how that
01:03:52.700 people don't
01:03:53.580 I caution
01:03:55.200 people against
01:03:56.200 exploring
01:03:57.140 these principles
01:03:58.320 because I don't
01:03:59.500 know where you
01:04:00.000 are spiritually
01:04:00.720 I know
01:04:02.760 when they drew
01:04:03.300 me in
01:04:03.780 I was homeless
01:04:05.060 and I was like
01:04:05.980 selling drugs
01:04:06.660 and everything
01:04:07.080 probably shouldn't
01:04:08.200 have been the
01:04:08.640 guy looking
01:04:10.080 into the abyss
01:04:10.740 at that point
01:04:11.160 I mean now
01:04:11.600 in hindsight
01:04:12.580 it worked out
01:04:13.120 for me
01:04:13.340 but so we
01:04:14.540 caution people
01:04:15.140 against it
01:04:15.660 just because
01:04:15.960 I don't know
01:04:16.400 you I'm never
01:04:16.920 going to advocate
01:04:17.480 for you doing
01:04:18.200 these things
01:04:18.860 because I don't
01:04:19.400 know where you
01:04:19.800 are in your
01:04:20.180 life
01:04:20.420 but for my
01:04:21.600 own particular
01:04:22.260 story
01:04:22.700 yeah that's
01:04:23.360 that's how
01:04:23.700 I got here
01:04:24.260 so you know
01:04:25.680 I guess
01:04:26.400 everybody's got
01:04:26.920 their own
01:04:27.180 path right
01:04:27.740 I did see
01:04:30.520 somebody ask
01:04:31.080 if I've ever
01:04:31.580 tried this
01:04:31.920 stuff on
01:04:32.200 psychedelics
01:04:32.780 no
01:04:33.040 never
01:04:35.960 never
01:04:36.360 that
01:04:37.220 that
01:04:37.800 didn't come
01:04:39.400 up in your
01:04:39.700 thought process
01:04:40.300 it seems like
01:04:40.880 it would have
01:04:41.200 been right there
01:04:41.800 no actually
01:04:42.820 believe it or
01:04:43.340 not I have
01:04:43.740 to fuck
01:04:44.020 with magic
01:04:44.440 I'm a little
01:04:44.780 bit more
01:04:45.000 afraid to
01:04:45.440 fuck
01:04:45.760 with psychedelics
01:04:46.520 interesting
01:04:47.340 do you think
01:04:48.020 yeah do you
01:04:48.640 think
01:04:48.840 all right so
01:04:50.640 I'm a believer
01:04:51.620 that there's
01:04:52.040 like multiple
01:04:52.600 realms layered
01:04:53.280 on top of
01:04:53.780 wherever we're
01:04:54.260 at so
01:04:54.680 when you went
01:04:56.400 to wherever
01:04:56.840 you went
01:04:57.380 was this
01:04:57.840 the same
01:04:58.220 place
01:04:58.700 is this
01:04:59.220 the same
01:04:59.480 place that
01:04:59.840 you always
01:05:00.580 go when
01:05:01.260 you do
01:05:01.500 this sort
01:05:01.880 of a
01:05:02.120 ritual
01:05:02.420 yeah there's
01:05:04.100 even
01:05:04.380 even like
01:05:05.940 the low
01:05:06.300 one of the
01:05:06.680 logos that
01:05:07.160 I use
01:05:07.600 now that's
01:05:08.220 like it's
01:05:08.720 even like
01:05:09.160 it's like
01:05:09.420 it's an
01:05:09.900 image that
01:05:10.320 I had
01:05:10.600 Mario
01:05:10.900 from symbolic
01:05:11.480 studies
01:05:11.900 I had him
01:05:12.440 basically make
01:05:13.020 an image
01:05:13.460 a visual
01:05:14.080 before I
01:05:14.640 crossed the
01:05:15.020 abyss
01:05:15.320 and you
01:05:17.300 know I
01:05:17.520 have that
01:05:17.840 eclipse
01:05:18.260 and at
01:05:18.640 some point
01:05:19.120 the easiest
01:05:19.940 way for me
01:05:20.380 to explain
01:05:20.840 it and I
01:05:21.300 had him
01:05:21.840 design it
01:05:22.380 as like
01:05:22.740 movie reels
01:05:23.500 but it's
01:05:24.560 like these
01:05:25.120 these things
01:05:26.460 that look like
01:05:26.920 cells like
01:05:27.520 movie cells
01:05:28.120 on a reel
01:05:28.620 it's kind
01:05:29.340 of like a
01:05:29.760 not a square
01:05:30.420 but it's
01:05:30.780 like a
01:05:31.020 rectangle
01:05:31.400 whatever
01:05:31.800 these like
01:05:32.740 windows
01:05:33.200 almost looking
01:05:33.940 things coming
01:05:34.620 out of it
01:05:35.120 and going
01:05:35.480 past you
01:05:35.980 real slow
01:05:36.600 in my
01:05:37.640 opinion I
01:05:38.240 do think
01:05:38.900 you can
01:05:40.620 start kind
01:05:41.460 of going
01:05:42.080 into those
01:05:42.740 because they
01:05:43.540 all look
01:05:43.860 like different
01:05:44.240 times and
01:05:44.700 places and
01:05:45.300 time and
01:05:46.040 space I
01:05:47.040 couldn't tell
01:05:47.460 you even
01:05:48.260 where it
01:05:48.600 is it
01:05:48.860 just looks
01:05:49.180 like different
01:05:49.560 visions from
01:05:50.140 different times
01:05:50.660 and places
01:05:51.080 and one
01:05:52.680 time I
01:05:53.060 was interested
01:05:53.540 for some
01:05:54.200 reason I
01:05:55.140 don't know
01:05:55.380 why I
01:05:56.800 you know I
01:05:57.260 see these
01:05:57.600 things all
01:05:57.920 the time and
01:05:58.340 I really
01:05:58.560 don't pay
01:05:58.880 no mind I
01:05:59.440 just keep
01:05:59.780 on looking
01:06:00.100 at you
01:06:00.480 know the
01:06:00.940 eclipse and
01:06:02.260 waiting for
01:06:02.720 it to start
01:06:03.180 to separate
01:06:03.700 and one
01:06:04.880 time I
01:06:05.240 guess I
01:06:05.600 got intrigued
01:06:06.400 by one of
01:06:06.900 these things
01:06:07.380 and it's
01:06:07.720 like my
01:06:08.060 vision again
01:06:08.580 when I'm
01:06:08.880 having this
01:06:09.300 experience my
01:06:10.100 body's not
01:06:10.660 there it's
01:06:10.980 just a
01:06:11.240 vision I'm
01:06:11.740 seeing I
01:06:12.660 kind of
01:06:12.980 like went
01:06:13.340 forward and
01:06:13.880 like turned
01:06:14.580 and like my
01:06:15.120 vision just
01:06:15.640 like went
01:06:16.020 into the
01:06:16.460 window and
01:06:17.720 like to me
01:06:18.160 like I joke
01:06:18.660 around but it's
01:06:19.200 like I couldn't
01:06:19.620 tell what it
01:06:20.000 was I was like
01:06:20.560 is that a
01:06:21.020 nuclear fallout
01:06:21.740 or is it
01:06:22.020 Arizona like
01:06:22.740 it just didn't
01:06:23.240 look welcoming
01:06:23.880 nobody was
01:06:24.460 there just
01:06:24.940 looked like
01:06:25.320 desolate and
01:06:26.520 I was like
01:06:27.060 yeah that
01:06:27.860 doesn't look
01:06:28.340 like a good
01:06:29.000 place for me
01:06:29.980 to go and
01:06:30.520 then all of a
01:06:31.000 sudden I
01:06:31.300 snapped out of
01:06:31.920 it and I'm
01:06:32.260 assuming it's
01:06:32.720 because I
01:06:33.080 started thinking
01:06:33.500 myself again but
01:06:34.460 every other time
01:06:36.020 I just normally
01:06:36.720 focus on the
01:06:37.600 middle and then
01:06:38.300 like all this
01:06:40.980 have a feeling
01:06:41.480 that those
01:06:41.980 things can
01:06:42.580 be played
01:06:43.020 with yeah
01:06:44.300 I'm not I'm
01:06:46.000 not even
01:06:46.380 risky if I
01:06:48.020 was with magic
01:06:48.900 again I'm not
01:06:49.480 going to do
01:06:49.780 that I don't
01:06:50.160 think I
01:06:51.060 wouldn't blame
01:06:51.600 you dude I
01:06:52.060 mean you're
01:06:52.840 describing a
01:06:53.700 someone that
01:06:54.540 a testimony I've
01:06:56.280 heard of someone
01:06:56.660 that does astral
01:06:57.520 projection and
01:06:58.240 they said it
01:06:58.860 feels like they're
01:06:59.500 on a train
01:07:00.720 tracks where
01:07:02.100 obviously I
01:07:03.840 have used that
01:07:04.260 as an expression
01:07:05.040 before I say
01:07:05.740 the movie reels
01:07:06.720 or I'll say
01:07:07.240 that like I'll
01:07:07.760 swear to God
01:07:08.620 man I've said
01:07:09.100 it on probably
01:07:09.520 every show it's
01:07:10.760 like as if I
01:07:11.300 was in the
01:07:11.760 subway or a
01:07:12.400 train station
01:07:13.000 and I had
01:07:13.440 two trains
01:07:14.000 coming down
01:07:14.500 past me and
01:07:15.060 I was looking
01:07:15.440 in the car's
01:07:15.980 windows and
01:07:16.780 they were going
01:07:17.120 really slow
01:07:17.740 that's exactly
01:07:18.660 how I'll try to
01:07:19.260 sometimes explain
01:07:20.100 those those
01:07:20.780 visions too
01:07:21.420 yeah so they're
01:07:22.760 like they could
01:07:23.660 uh I I
01:07:24.760 suppose it
01:07:25.300 either that
01:07:26.040 they're on the
01:07:26.540 tracks but you're
01:07:27.280 saying that you're
01:07:27.920 describing the
01:07:28.460 things coming
01:07:28.880 towards you
01:07:29.340 rather than
01:07:29.680 yeah it will
01:07:30.160 even look like
01:07:30.680 a light on a
01:07:31.240 train coming
01:07:31.780 kind of close
01:07:32.720 towards you
01:07:33.220 interesting
01:07:34.400 interesting
01:07:35.040 yeah and
01:07:35.540 like again when
01:07:36.360 I said when you
01:07:36.900 feel that polarity
01:07:37.700 switch it's like
01:07:38.340 you see this that
01:07:39.480 white this white
01:07:40.420 sphere this glowing
01:07:41.660 white sphere just
01:07:42.320 fly at you at
01:07:43.780 that point it's
01:07:44.420 like standing on
01:07:44.960 the tracks and
01:07:45.400 watching the train
01:07:45.920 hit like watching
01:07:47.440 like if you pulled
01:07:48.040 the trigger and
01:07:48.600 fucking shot
01:07:49.040 yourself in the
01:07:49.520 head it's an
01:07:50.620 interesting thought
01:07:51.440 because so your
01:07:52.560 your sole intention
01:07:53.880 every time you do
01:07:54.680 this is to go
01:07:55.480 towards this uh
01:07:56.900 this eclipse
01:07:58.240 yes just a white
01:07:59.520 light yeah not
01:08:00.660 not take these
01:08:01.860 detours but it
01:08:02.640 seems like many
01:08:03.200 people like to get
01:08:04.580 I think that is
01:08:05.340 probably more
01:08:05.920 advanced magic
01:08:06.560 believe it
01:08:06.920 to take a
01:08:09.480 detour you mean
01:08:10.060 or yeah yeah
01:08:10.820 yeah I think
01:08:11.460 that's a little
01:08:11.820 bit more risky
01:08:12.340 too I think
01:08:13.060 that's when you
01:08:13.460 can get caught
01:08:13.920 out there possibly
01:08:14.640 what do you
01:08:16.360 think of this
01:08:16.760 idea that when
01:08:17.740 you're experiencing
01:08:18.820 these things you
01:08:19.920 are um tethered
01:08:22.300 to but still
01:08:23.560 leaving your
01:08:24.600 physical body
01:08:25.340 there's a lot of
01:08:26.160 people that that
01:08:27.100 express the idea
01:08:28.060 of like let's say
01:08:28.700 astral projection
01:08:29.400 or that's what
01:08:29.960 I think astral
01:08:30.580 projection is yeah
01:08:31.180 that you leave
01:08:32.280 your your physical
01:08:33.300 um form vulnerable
01:08:36.080 to something else
01:08:37.060 inhabiting it for a
01:08:37.880 period of time uh
01:08:38.680 yeah I do think
01:08:39.740 that does happen
01:08:40.340 too and and so
01:08:42.560 then what do you
01:08:43.360 make of the nature
01:08:44.560 of the things that
01:08:45.220 seek to inhabit your
01:08:46.040 physical form I
01:08:47.320 think that's an
01:08:48.020 issue I don't think
01:08:49.860 that's a good thing
01:08:50.760 uh in my opinion I
01:08:52.760 don't think that's a
01:08:53.440 good thing and from
01:08:54.720 some of the ways that
01:08:55.560 I have seen it
01:08:57.400 mentioned in rituals
01:08:59.380 and again I really
01:09:00.320 probably didn't
01:09:00.980 understand what I
01:09:01.520 was looking at but
01:09:02.280 I did understand
01:09:02.920 what I was talking
01:09:03.440 about hi I'm
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01:10:05.320 something when the ego
01:10:06.720 leaves or whatever when
01:10:08.880 the soul leaves it doesn't
01:10:11.060 look like it's to me I
01:10:12.520 just that's I don't know
01:10:14.560 what the fuck like how do
01:10:15.800 you know what you're
01:10:16.160 putting in that's just
01:10:17.100 dangerous in my opinion
01:10:17.920 way to explain it it's just
01:10:20.060 fucking weird to me doing
01:10:21.040 something like that I don't
01:10:22.480 think like that's probably
01:10:24.300 fucking with some weird
01:10:25.200 shit
01:10:25.480 can you tell us a little
01:10:27.060 bit more about that like
01:10:28.040 uh your time in the OTO
01:10:29.360 did you did you come
01:10:31.100 across or like hear from
01:10:32.520 other people that have
01:10:33.600 done something like that
01:10:35.120 like have done this sort
01:10:36.480 of meditation that you've
01:10:37.380 done but taking these
01:10:38.180 other paths
01:10:38.780 no I would totally answer
01:10:41.240 with you with all time I
01:10:42.140 was in the OTO I never
01:10:43.060 had anybody even say
01:10:44.420 anything about an
01:10:45.160 experience close to what I
01:10:46.200 just explained or ever
01:10:47.500 admitted to fucking with
01:10:48.380 magic to that extent
01:10:49.240 of course in the abyss
01:10:50.080 I've never even heard
01:10:51.400 to me that's always like
01:10:52.840 another thing like you
01:10:53.660 know there was many
01:10:54.280 reasons why I left that
01:10:55.280 place but that was one
01:10:56.120 of them is because I was
01:10:56.860 like yo like you can't
01:10:58.620 tell motherfuckers this
01:10:59.400 is what magic is
01:11:00.200 because this is a little
01:11:02.060 bit different than like
01:11:02.800 I'm sure what 99.9%
01:11:04.560 people here expect
01:11:05.440 like you're so off
01:11:07.780 fucking base but like
01:11:08.600 what you your image
01:11:10.620 that you project is
01:11:11.400 completely fucking off
01:11:12.540 I don't get it
01:11:13.780 it's weird because I
01:11:14.820 feel the same way almost
01:11:15.820 I just think it's a
01:11:16.560 psyop in itself just
01:11:17.620 I feel the same way
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01:11:23.060 whole life and I
01:11:24.700 didn't understand what
01:11:26.480 God or even what the
01:11:27.620 Bible was saying until
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01:12:24.300 I went down the path
01:12:25.760 myself and really tried
01:12:26.920 to understand it it's
01:12:28.300 going to give you this
01:12:28.900 weird cursory understanding
01:12:30.880 this whitewashed version
01:12:32.100 of what this much larger
01:12:34.060 picture is it's up to you
01:12:35.520 to go figure that out for
01:12:37.000 yourself
01:12:37.400 yeah well even say like
01:12:40.520 even one thing like too
01:12:41.600 it's like you know how
01:12:42.300 many things are constantly
01:12:43.900 said and we just dismiss as
01:12:45.600 like a different way like
01:12:47.900 even for me how many
01:12:49.380 times you have to have I
01:12:50.360 had to hear death and a
01:12:51.600 rebirth death and a
01:12:52.420 rebirth death and a
01:12:53.220 rebirth and I never once
01:12:54.340 took death as literal but
01:12:56.220 it's been said to me
01:12:56.920 fucking how many times and
01:12:57.860 it's in how many things and
01:12:59.760 we just don't for some
01:13:00.500 reason don't want to take
01:13:01.220 that death literal at least
01:13:02.340 I didn't but it was for
01:13:04.160 me but it's been said to
01:13:06.180 me how many times it's an
01:13:09.080 interest it's like how much
01:13:10.000 stuff is actually being said
01:13:11.260 literal to us in texts or
01:13:13.240 books yeah for some reason
01:13:14.940 we just maybe because it's
01:13:16.120 easier for the mind and
01:13:17.700 the heart to accept we
01:13:18.700 downplayed something silly
01:13:20.220 well I feel as though a
01:13:22.560 lot of our culture has
01:13:23.600 been engineered in such a
01:13:25.280 way as to produce a fear
01:13:27.100 of death like a tremendous
01:13:28.420 fear yeah yeah my experience
01:13:30.960 is the most beautiful thing
01:13:32.120 I've ever experienced
01:13:33.080 right so so this is
01:13:34.940 something that awaits us
01:13:35.880 all it's it is you know
01:13:38.960 it's a part of every single
01:13:40.880 living beings journey in this
01:13:42.860 realm that we inhabit and for
01:13:44.860 some reason we're fucking
01:13:46.640 mortified of it it plagues
01:13:48.920 us I remember being a kid
01:13:50.280 and having my first
01:13:52.680 realization that like I'm
01:13:53.880 gonna die and everybody
01:13:54.600 that I love is gonna die
01:13:55.420 one day and I'm just
01:13:56.420 fucking like it made for
01:13:57.840 like two months of not being
01:13:59.480 able to sleep at night when
01:14:00.540 I was little and obviously
01:14:03.480 you know you figure out how
01:14:04.400 to compartmentalize that and
01:14:05.460 you move on with your life
01:14:06.600 but that's it right I
01:14:08.300 didn't learn how to deal
01:14:09.440 with it I learned how to
01:14:10.940 compartmentalize it and to
01:14:12.380 not think about anymore
01:14:13.460 because it was still this
01:14:14.980 this horrifying chaotic
01:14:17.340 abyss waiting on the horizon
01:14:19.840 for me and everybody that I
01:14:20.900 loved and so as an adult you
01:14:22.560 just keep moving through and
01:14:24.520 you get so inundated with just
01:14:25.860 the shit of life that luckily
01:14:28.160 that burden outweighs the
01:14:29.920 burden of thinking about your
01:14:30.980 own impending doom but we've
01:14:33.180 never we don't in the west have
01:14:35.140 a healthy way of dealing with
01:14:36.980 it at all and so it's it's like
01:14:39.080 the I had a a dream once where
01:14:42.100 I was I talk about this often
01:14:44.340 because it's just like certain
01:14:45.260 dreams really stick out but I
01:14:47.260 was on a pipe in the sky like a
01:14:48.900 narrow skinny pipe and I'm
01:14:50.160 walking and I don't care if I
01:14:51.820 fall to one way or another but
01:14:53.220 there's a dude behind me that
01:14:54.420 does he's like naked and he's
01:14:55.840 holding this pipe and he's
01:14:57.340 terrified and I look to him and
01:14:59.840 I go we have to make a pact that
01:15:02.420 we never forget where we came
01:15:03.480 from and then I fall off the pipe
01:15:05.140 willingly which is certainly
01:15:06.560 death because I'm suspended in the
01:15:08.660 air like in the sky in the
01:15:09.620 clouds and and then I fall
01:15:12.300 through a giant hole in the
01:15:13.220 ground and there's a giant
01:15:14.840 tree like a tree with a tree
01:15:16.680 trunk that the circumference of
01:15:18.120 a town or something like that
01:15:19.620 and it's huge and it's got all
01:15:20.760 this glitter dust but I think the
01:15:22.580 point is like I'm caught up I
01:15:24.160 no longer fall I'm caught up in
01:15:25.720 the sort of the gold glitter
01:15:27.000 dust that's pouring off this
01:15:28.260 tree's leaves and I'm suspended
01:15:29.860 in air and it never left me it
01:15:31.920 never left me I had that when I
01:15:33.080 was a kid and but what it does
01:15:36.080 scream is like it's everything is
01:15:38.460 on the other side of fear I
01:15:40.440 mean like that's like the
01:15:41.260 overwhelming message that I get
01:15:43.200 in everything it doesn't matter
01:15:44.200 if it's your pursuit whether it's
01:15:46.460 your pursuit in a in a romantic
01:15:47.820 situation your pursuit in a career
01:15:50.340 decision for the rest of your
01:15:51.940 even as simple as your pursuit to
01:15:54.180 oh do I want to have children and
01:15:55.680 it's like no I don't want to have
01:15:56.580 children I'm not ready yet I don't
01:15:57.800 have the career that I want I don't
01:15:59.200 I just I don't have the finances and
01:16:00.940 things aren't where it's like fear
01:16:03.000 is the the thing that keeps people
01:16:05.940 from taking the next step in any
01:16:08.300 journey and I don't think we're here
01:16:09.780 to not take part in this journey I
01:16:12.320 mean earlier on in the show we're
01:16:13.540 talking about this concept of like
01:16:14.600 the hero's journey I think that is
01:16:17.040 what we're all here we're all given
01:16:18.680 the ability we can go if we choose on
01:16:21.300 this journey or we can keep fear as
01:16:25.380 the as the the motivator for us not
01:16:27.300 taking that first step and it's like
01:16:30.000 it's in everything man and we you
01:16:31.900 know going back to the conversation
01:16:32.820 we're having before it's like I've
01:16:34.000 heard that in the Bible it says fear
01:16:35.720 not 365 times I've also heard that's a
01:16:38.200 bit of a misnomer what's not a
01:16:39.980 misnomer though is that is an
01:16:41.920 overarching message within the Bible
01:16:43.840 and within so many things is don't
01:16:45.660 give in to fear that is the thing
01:16:48.180 that's going to stop you and I don't
01:16:49.760 know it just strikes me that so much
01:16:51.000 of this this conversation it's like one
01:16:53.480 way or another whether it's it's
01:16:54.860 psychedelically or or rather
01:16:56.980 psychologically or in a in a more
01:16:59.060 physical realm it's it's a battle with
01:17:00.960 fear constantly yeah I agree I mean
01:17:04.780 everything you said I think was a
01:17:05.940 spot-on man yeah yeah do you think
01:17:09.660 fear is the killer you know I've said
01:17:12.440 I've said plenty of times even on my
01:17:13.820 own show you know because whatever
01:17:16.540 people will put you up on pedestals
01:17:19.560 idolize you to an extent it's just
01:17:21.040 going to happen when it comes to
01:17:21.940 podcasting and I've even said the
01:17:23.780 difference between me and the
01:17:24.800 listeners I just like the fear of
01:17:26.260 podcasting and I just like the fear
01:17:29.720 of getting behind the mic and
01:17:30.600 hitting record it's only difference
01:17:32.020 between me and them nobody that
01:17:33.760 special I agree with that I agree
01:17:36.820 with that I always tell people uh you
01:17:38.460 know if I could do it you could do it
01:17:39.720 but it's just a decision especially
01:17:41.480 especially if I can yes especially
01:17:43.460 yeah especially if I could do it you
01:17:44.820 could definitely do it you probably do
01:17:45.900 it way better than what I'm doing yeah
01:17:47.100 exactly exactly like a bull in a
01:17:49.640 china shop trying to do it but I'm
01:17:50.840 making it happen what do you think
01:17:52.560 about this idea that um within this
01:17:56.580 this death um and and experiencing
01:17:59.380 this light this just brings it to my
01:18:01.040 mind because you've you've talked about
01:18:02.160 something reminiscent of it um that
01:18:04.940 this is a sort of karmic trap a loop in
01:18:09.760 other words if you die there are these
01:18:11.580 entities one way or another that seek
01:18:13.720 to feed off you and keep you in this
01:18:15.940 reincarnation loop and so that actually
01:18:18.300 going towards the light uh is is I've
01:18:22.460 heard it likened to like that's the
01:18:23.800 lights in another hotel another hospital
01:18:25.720 uh room and you're being birthed again
01:18:28.200 and I don't know that if that's you
01:18:30.120 know who knows what's what's true but
01:18:31.520 what's interesting with that you have
01:18:32.700 to think about it we come in with a
01:18:34.160 flash of light and my experience I'm
01:18:36.200 going out with one yeah yeah we've
01:18:39.440 talked about that before I think the
01:18:40.800 light plays a tremendous role in all
01:18:43.080 this like when it comes to the the
01:18:45.220 imprint on the shroud of Turin which
01:18:48.200 they recently just dated to about 2,000
01:18:50.480 years ago uh and so previously it was a
01:18:53.340 lot more contention around how old it
01:18:54.880 was it seems that they've gotten that
01:18:56.380 out but um we were speculating which is
01:19:00.140 all we're good for on how the how that
01:19:03.740 imprint got on the the shroud and we
01:19:07.060 kind of kicked around this idea of like
01:19:08.860 when a when a sperm uh inseminates an
01:19:11.180 egg there is an uh you know mysterious
01:19:14.220 flash of light scientists they don't know
01:19:16.040 what to make of it but there is a
01:19:17.460 discernible flash of light when now what
01:19:19.980 happens that's on a microscopic level of
01:19:22.120 a sperm uh fertilizing an egg what
01:19:24.840 happens when uh a spirit re-enters the
01:19:27.920 body of an adult male it is the light more
01:19:31.360 substantial and and does that light then
01:19:34.280 burn uh in in an impression into this
01:19:37.560 cloth um but it does seem like this this
01:19:39.820 light thing is is huge uh you even said
01:19:42.660 that there is um light that comes out of
01:19:45.920 our eyes i think at one point you said
01:19:47.320 yeah yeah yeah we do project out six
01:19:49.300 feet i mean and technically like not to
01:19:51.760 make it sound weird but we technically
01:19:53.340 are like biological ai solar powered
01:19:56.580 biological ai we look at the sun just
01:19:58.960 light comes in we decode stuff and power
01:20:02.280 our bodies with it yeah once you hits the
01:20:05.340 optic nerve it turns into electricity and
01:20:07.040 that's all your impulses your nerves
01:20:08.360 thought all that shit so i mean basically
01:20:11.320 i mean you know what do we it's really
01:20:13.640 weird if you start thinking about how
01:20:14.900 your eyes in the sun and all that shit
01:20:16.280 works yeah we are you familiar with ed
01:20:19.220 mabry i i am because i saw him on your
01:20:22.280 youtube channel yeah ed's a great guy and
01:20:25.080 one of the things that he first talked
01:20:27.800 about when he came on our show was this
01:20:29.460 idea that if god is light and light is the
01:20:34.980 modality of communication between
01:20:38.080 neurological synapses you know uh one atom
01:20:42.300 to another everything is an electronic
01:20:44.040 impulse right uh it's a flash of light is
01:20:46.740 how your cells are communicating with one
01:20:49.660 another and if god is light then there
01:20:55.080 might be an issue here that explains why
01:20:57.900 we're so distant from him now and it's
01:20:59.760 that ed believes the speed of light is not
01:21:02.860 a constant so whatever the speed of light
01:21:04.780 i'm retarded so let's say that is that is
01:21:06.380 true because the speed of light actually
01:21:07.820 is slower through water and it's also
01:21:10.360 allegedly according to ed mabry i'm i
01:21:13.340 can't i can't confirm this i'm not smart
01:21:15.000 uh but he says that the speed of light is
01:21:17.140 slowing down it has been slowing down on
01:21:20.140 that i have seen stuff on that and there's
01:21:21.640 actually uh there's some good proof on
01:21:23.420 that so so basically the way he says it
01:21:26.200 is wow that's pretty cool thousands of
01:21:29.180 years ago we would have been much um much
01:21:32.440 more robust because our cells if the speed
01:21:35.600 of light is slowing down that means that
01:21:37.080 the communication between our our cells is
01:21:39.440 also slowing down so if you could speed that
01:21:41.880 process up thousands of years ago when we
01:21:43.780 were closer to god um then we would be much
01:21:46.820 hardier we might even live for hundreds of
01:21:48.920 years right yeah yeah and so and then uh the
01:21:53.060 other things larger you know things yes much
01:21:55.300 larger and also that our perception of the
01:21:57.960 spiritual realm would have been much more
01:22:00.120 acute because the spiritual realm just would
01:22:02.360 have been more perceivable more easily
01:22:04.380 perceivable by us but since uh he he says
01:22:07.480 that there was multiple incursions like um you
01:22:11.440 know the garden and what happened in the
01:22:13.060 garden would have been one occurs uh incursion
01:22:15.260 that caused the speed of light to slow down
01:22:17.620 dramatically and really what that is
01:22:18.980 representative of is is the speed of light
01:22:21.920 slowing down or are we getting further away
01:22:24.160 from the source of it and if we're getting
01:22:25.920 further away from the source of it and and light
01:22:28.000 is god then we're getting further away from
01:22:29.960 god which would you know kind of explain why
01:22:33.540 we're falling apart why we can't perceive the
01:22:35.820 spiritual realm our ancestors seem to have it
01:22:38.100 mapped out so much better than we do uh tucker
01:22:40.800 carlson was just talking about how we in the
01:22:42.700 west have a detachment from the spiritual realm he
01:22:45.400 thinks it's it's malicious or it's on purpose i
01:22:47.460 think i'm paraphrasing biblically what we're
01:22:50.040 talking about is like uh from human beings
01:22:53.120 talking and walking with god alongside to uh
01:22:57.560 then moses talking with god but can't look at
01:23:00.240 him and he can only see him as he walks by you
01:23:02.560 know he's like a fire then it goes to like all
01:23:04.880 right listen here's the law here's some set of
01:23:07.500 stones but i'm i'm around i'm in the sky all
01:23:11.000 the way to like i just got to send my son because
01:23:13.280 so you can see the perceived distance of if this is
01:23:17.880 the light and you know many other religions will
01:23:20.260 will call this uh the sun god or the ultimate god
01:23:23.460 they'll they'll they'll call this deity the
01:23:27.220 overarching god that is the sun and i i don't think
01:23:30.400 that they're completely wrong i think that you know
01:23:33.420 there's a lot of truth in what these people are
01:23:34.960 saying because there is something about that this
01:23:37.540 light that is on the earth but has it gotten further
01:23:40.280 away well i think so there's many stories that say
01:23:43.060 that it has gotten has gotten further away even
01:23:45.220 science will tell you this that uh constitutionally
01:23:48.280 we're made up of where we're constitutionally less
01:23:52.200 because of the distance between this thing this light
01:23:56.840 this source of light and our bodies and that's just kind
01:24:01.460 of it's it's interesting to think about it that way so
01:24:03.400 yeah if if that is true um it would make it a lot harder for
01:24:08.980 the interdimensional the spiritual realm to access us or
01:24:13.440 to even uh reproduce with us which i think that they were doing
01:24:19.220 before you know like if if human females were
01:24:23.100 a little bit hardier ed mabry likes to say they would they would be able to
01:24:27.680 take a pounding a little more readily and then then you get you know your uh
01:24:31.520 ancient beings that we like to talk about on this show
01:24:34.000 uh now not so much now it's more of a
01:24:37.180 seems like we're doing it with ai i like that you brought up the idea of ai
01:24:41.100 because we are right we are this you can think about how like we get
01:24:46.300 your parents pop us out and programmers yeah yeah dude what the fuck like half
01:24:51.140 of us are here because somebody wanted a toy for fuck's sake
01:24:53.220 it's irresponsible i mean when you when you're thinking about like such a such a
01:24:58.120 tremendous creation that like what what we are we can grow out of just a spark
01:25:02.600 of light basically into full-grown human beings making horrible decisions like
01:25:07.160 um it's yeah it really gets you to think about um
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01:26:14.640 dot com i i think what what we think the alien agenda is which is uh like some sort of a
01:26:19.980 breeding program that they can't seem to nail i don't know how deep you go on
01:26:24.360 aliens or what you even think about this stuff aliens uh i think for the most part just my
01:26:32.400 experience i could see a the alien story being a really good way to sell a magical experience
01:26:41.580 i mean i'm sure some people have had experiences where they do believe that's what happened
01:26:47.100 and i couldn't explain that but some people i do i just think some like even look at crowley i mean
01:26:52.300 the first idea that we had of a gray was from fucking him right you know who knows what he was
01:26:57.060 trying to depict and symbolism with that well what's your idea on on aliens like as far as uh
01:27:02.960 your magical experiences have gone uh for me i have a hard time believing all right put it this way i
01:27:08.920 don't believe what we even see out in the skies is true you know i find that hard to believe like
01:27:15.680 what we've been told about that i mean even just real quick just to even just bring it up
01:27:19.680 the first model that we had before the one that we have now the last two models of our ideas of
01:27:24.980 what's going on out there was given to us by occultists but they were alchemists and occultists
01:27:29.880 so i don't know if i can take what they're saying to me out there word for word right so i so just the
01:27:36.300 whole thing even with me in my opinion it doesn't sound crazy i think a lot of what's out there is
01:27:40.480 just a reflection of the inside of arrival so like how do i even explain planets and aliens thinking
01:27:46.100 that way i can't really well that's interesting because those principles of like as above so
01:27:51.380 below or as within so without like those kind of things and that does just speak to the fractal
01:27:56.740 nature of reality which you know even if you're looking at like quantum physicists and such
01:28:01.200 they're confirming to whatever degree that yeah whatever happens on the micro is also happening on
01:28:07.140 the macro and as far as you can zoom in and as far as you can zoom out you'll find the patterns
01:28:11.140 repeating i agree with you nick i think like what we're seeing out there um as far as outer space
01:28:16.960 i don't believe it and i don't believe in uh aliens per se but it's just a nice you know it's a nice
01:28:22.940 word to give when we're talking to people so that we we so much an archetype in itself yeah it's an
01:28:29.540 it's an archetype it's a way to understand what what i'm trying to convey and express but i like that
01:28:34.060 idea of like you're looking out there and you're saying when i look at the sky the night sky and you're
01:28:38.960 seeing the stars in the dark it's the same thing you see when you close your eyes it's like well
01:28:43.140 maybe like as as we look at the night sky it is like we're looking into the interdimensional i don't
01:28:49.220 think that they come from other planets i don't think that this is this earth is necessarily even
01:28:53.600 round i i don't know what shape it is but i know we can't get off of it i'm pretty sure of that i've
01:28:59.880 yeah because i keep watching this asshole smashes rockets into the firmament yeah he flies yeah right
01:29:04.380 just dings him off the dude i'm sorry every every time i see that it just looks like something like
01:29:10.380 it even behaves as if it's moving through water and then the way that it like there's moments where
01:29:14.680 it looks like it splashes against some sort of unperceivable but still physical yeah it's all
01:29:20.580 weird um can you show images on your show yeah yeah yeah you got something you want to share yeah
01:29:25.800 yeah i'll try to find another one too i don't know if next time people actually watch uh what's his face
01:29:31.120 oh there you go that so this is what you were talking about before and i i didn't know if i
01:29:35.120 should go there yet but the way that the eye seems to mimic this enclosed system that we're allegedly in
01:29:40.840 besides that if you were to ever watch elon musk launch off his rockets and when they show you the
01:29:45.540 whole bottom screen with all those little numbers going and all that shit this is exactly what the
01:29:50.220 fuck you're looking at yeah it's always curved by the way the trajectory is always fucking you know
01:29:56.580 it's oh it's you're like that's not going up dog that's going fucking across like every time i'm
01:30:01.320 like am i retarded i just can't perceive things the right way once they're too high in the sky
01:30:05.500 up looks like a cross that that's it's strange to me there's a lot of shit that they just kind of lean
01:30:10.700 on um our gullibility i feel like they're like yeah i don't believe what your eyes are saying i know
01:30:16.680 that your eyes are saying this thing's traveling uh horizontally across the horizon but trust me it's going up
01:30:21.800 yeah but i do find it interesting whenever you show elon musk like showing his like blast off
01:30:27.060 platform this is the exact design that he has on the bottom of the screen showing everything
01:30:31.880 that is the eyeball yeah i think a lot of his stuff is actually eyeball symbolism that's just my opinion
01:30:38.200 so before nick you were talking about um this orphic egg and right now we're talking a little bit
01:30:44.840 about lamb right and how he was uh kind of the archetype for the alien gray and there's there's a quote
01:30:50.820 that was attributed to so so crowley does like the amelantra workings and and one way or another ends
01:30:56.660 up communing with this entity he draws a picture of it it looks like a fucking alien gray and and
01:31:01.840 allegedly there's a um a quote attributed to lamb that says something to the effect of it's all in the
01:31:08.640 egg which is like some sort of cryptic revelation and i don't know i can't confirm that that's what
01:31:13.320 you know something that this thing said to him but we are in the middle of i don't know like
01:31:20.160 this egg event right so we were talking about the orphic egg and within the uap disclosure
01:31:26.620 kind of realm all sudden eggs have popped up on the the radar and hi i'm darren marler host of the
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01:32:30.940 dot com there's even this moment recently we showed it on this on a show where this guy is pointing to
01:32:37.380 this orb in the sky and when you zoom in on it it is an egg-shaped glowing orb with what looks like a
01:32:43.880 snake coiled around it right so um this is something that i'm not terribly familiar with i i do a little
01:32:49.680 bit of a deep dive and find out maybe i should be uh uh you know informed about this thing because it's at
01:32:55.500 the the center of the creation mythos of a shit ton of different um sort of ancient religions
01:33:03.220 and i mean from egyptian i think even norse mythology has a version the vedics have uh you
01:33:10.260 know an egg in the beginning of their mythos it's literally their creation mythos the egg cracks open
01:33:14.680 the top half becomes the firmament the lower half becomes the earth and this is like a little bit
01:33:20.560 different there's some nuances from one to another but basically either the egg itself cracks open and
01:33:27.920 creates earth and the realm that we inhabit or the egg cracks open and a creator deity comes out of
01:33:33.160 it and they create the earth or the creator deity comes out births another deity and that deity creates
01:33:39.820 the earth but it's it's all of it is is seemingly um wrapped up in this creation mythos but from what
01:33:46.460 you're talking about nick this thing seems to bear uh not not a resemblance but um it has a connection
01:33:52.740 to the human eye once again yes that's what i think even in your eye uh when you your hyaloid
01:34:00.040 canal your pupil and the zonules is in how to explain this your lens actually is held by the
01:34:05.900 zonules is in and they will either bending it back or just pushing it forward will either make your pupil
01:34:11.380 big or small when you pull it back and make it small it spirals closed and sucks light into your eye
01:34:19.120 that way and i do think again it spirals closed and it pulls open like a cross which is something i
01:34:27.860 do even want to bring up and this is just a theory of mine and i'm going to throw it out there these
01:34:31.800 rituals a lot of these rituals i'm doing i'm in a black robe with that hood on and i'm going to the
01:34:37.520 four corners and destroying these things they're doing whatever i'm doing but spinning in a circle at
01:34:42.260 the same time i honestly think the black hood and the black robe is the pupil spinning closed
01:34:48.320 and i'm destroying the four corners that are pulling it open and now i'm closing the pupil
01:34:53.220 and i'm sucking because when you now i'm going to invoke right i'm pulling the light in that's
01:34:59.000 exactly what i'm doing with the pupil i'm pulling it closed and sucking light into the back of my head
01:35:03.060 that's interesting yeah i knew top was going to do this he's pulling up but but this is worth
01:35:08.560 mentioning too shout out matthew lane says year of the snake is it interesting that as soon as the
01:35:13.200 year of the snake kicks off we start getting this egg symbolism the orphic egg i think so these are
01:35:18.740 what this is what we do in black robes uh at brohemian grove yeah these people are ridiculous yeah
01:35:24.060 annual semi-annual events the audience is dressed up in nephilim death squad cloaks and uh and i don't
01:35:31.000 know what the fuck we're doing i don't even have this uh this guy out there now i think i think he was
01:35:35.900 talking about there was some dude i saw talking about some experience that he had i think with
01:35:39.820 like you know aliens or whatever and there's like some video too where it's like showing like this
01:35:43.640 this tether looking thing and it looks like it's a sphere but if you look at it closely it's like an
01:35:49.280 egg actually and somebody is it's going around saying it's a ufo and i was like yeah zoom in on
01:35:54.980 that it's an egg it's not a circle it's an egg no it's 100 an egg and there's a second it's hanging
01:35:59.600 from like a rope so now just roll that up and you got the fucking orphic egg again roll yeah they're
01:36:03.820 they're airlifting it this is the the i i don't know if i want to call it a psychological operation
01:36:08.400 because that seems dismissive i don't think that all psychological operations are hollow sometimes i
01:36:14.140 think they're priming us for a series of events that's about to unfold and right now it seems like
01:36:18.980 it's this egg situation so you have this moment where the steven greer's and uh louise alizandos of
01:36:27.000 the world kind of like the the um the the federal arm of the mascots for for fucking uap disclosure so
01:36:36.000 so these guys are saying watch out something's gonna happen today and i go surely it's gonna be
01:36:40.100 gay but i'll keep an eye out for it and sure enough we do get like all of a sudden this video emerges of
01:36:45.140 them airlifting this fucking egg out of a out of a mountainscape and then what ends up happening is
01:36:50.140 somebody uh a whistleblower online on 4chan very trustworthy comes out and says yeah you know uh oh
01:36:56.900 here's another egg video yeah yeah uh here's another egg video and also uh i am a a whistleblower
01:37:04.060 of sorts military intelligence clearance yada yada yada but the two things that were birthed out of his
01:37:10.260 video that are very fascinating is one when you zoom in on the egg it is covered in what was the
01:37:17.580 language it was hierarchical um uh something or another but it was basically a language that would
01:37:23.500 only have been used by the priest class of greece and egypt um and there are these symbols sure
01:37:30.060 enough all imprinted all over the surface of this egg and the other thing that was found with the egg
01:37:35.500 allegedly according to this very trustworthy whistleblower from 4chan is that there was a
01:37:40.920 entity in a stasis bed basically like a med bed sort of situation and you know they woke him up and um
01:37:48.560 he's a tall nord you know how that's like one of the fucking genres of aliens that were he's a tall
01:37:54.080 nord and he's got a lot to say and interestingly enough one of the things that he said was um that
01:37:59.380 the closest we ever had to understanding god was when we were adhering to like the hermetic text or
01:38:04.640 something like that more or less these things that are the the the foundations for much of gnosticism as
01:38:11.500 it exists today so i don't know what what's coming but this egg thing does i mean yeah it's somebody said
01:38:17.380 in the chat that eggs uh snakes also lay eggs so these things are tied together also your your eyeball
01:38:24.260 is not a perfect sphere right it does have a pointed tip when it comes to your lens uh on your on your
01:38:31.460 eyeball it makes an egg so yeah i i think you're really uh onto something here nick when when you come
01:38:38.800 to this this correlation between the eye the egg lucifer the serpent and all of these things they're all
01:38:45.640 seemingly uh you know orbiting one another yeah if you want real quick i just want to so i can give
01:38:51.280 people an example if you want to pull up this piece of art i could show you now this is the birth of
01:38:55.560 venus oh i've seen this i okay go on go on
01:38:59.520 and that's the eyeball
01:39:03.740 mm-hmm and and venus by the way is is the planet associated with lucifer is it not well she she's
01:39:10.320 standing in this sort of shell so what are you representing with that eyeball there what's that
01:39:14.160 uh you can see it's virtually the same thing i mean she would be representative of the optic nerve
01:39:20.060 and then uh the what is that called the source would be like the uh shell and then she's standing
01:39:28.280 on the lens and this is the same thing front of the lens is where you have the water and that little
01:39:33.320 area in front of the lens is where they have the oculus humor and then the vitreous humor in the back is
01:39:38.140 where the blood is interesting this is very reminiscent of of um what's that famous painting
01:39:43.980 where the the fingers are are reaching towards each other and oh yes yo you know the vatican i went to
01:39:49.880 the vatican within the last year i went to italy like they they actually do accept that as being
01:39:56.360 the brain now i mean it's it's pretty uncanny and and where is when they said that on the tour i was
01:40:02.300 like what the fuck wow you're actually acknowledging that physiology is part of this shit this is the thing
01:40:07.460 that that um i think a lot of christianity is is dropping the ball because they they basically
01:40:13.360 tell you not to don't don't look at this don't worry about this and it's all heretical or or one
01:40:19.020 thing or another and it's like well you got a real problem if if any of this is is true and the problem
01:40:24.960 isn't that it diminishes christianity the problem is that you're not helping to unpack this and and that
01:40:32.460 is causing uh certainly a distrust for these religious institutions or towards these religious
01:40:39.400 institutions but i look at that and i i can't deny that i see that and then it's like well what do you
01:40:44.700 make of it because the church not going to help you understand that so you have the very organizations
01:40:49.660 that you've been uh you know accusing of of just being satanic or luciferian it's like well not good
01:40:55.900 all right i guess you don't get to learn about it then you don't get to know what this is and that
01:40:59.460 that that's a problem from like the 1200s to the 1600s to the 1700s i don't even yeah push the 1600s
01:41:04.540 in the catholic church the people who made some of the biggest breakthroughs and stuff or
01:41:08.260 applying physiology yeah they're applying anatomy to uh you know to understanding well and what i want
01:41:16.160 to say about that too is i don't think that it has to be reductive in other words i don't think that
01:41:19.880 you have to look at this and say oh all spirituality is just an anagram or or rather a metaphor
01:41:26.080 for the anatomy of human beings it's like no i don't think it's just that it is that and it's
01:41:33.540 also many other things so so like top says it's like this realm is is multiple realms layered over
01:41:38.760 one another um it's like slices yes you don't have to look at this and be like oh no um even even for
01:41:46.580 me it's like i believe that lucifer is an actual entity but also is there some correlation between the
01:41:52.640 the the celestial body of venus um and there is there also some correlation uh with our eyeball
01:41:58.820 and our and our own anatomy it's like yeah yeah all those things i think all those things are are true
01:42:04.040 and they're all layered on top of one another but i think much of what christianity does is it looks at
01:42:09.160 these concepts and it sees them as pulling away um the actual not the how do i put this it it removes a
01:42:17.800 layer of of reality and makes it so that it's all just um analogous and i don't think that that is
01:42:24.320 the case at all i think that this realm is rich with layers it's like um you know we've talked about
01:42:31.580 it a lot where there's this idea that you can take this oil that's producing your in your spine
01:42:37.600 you have 33 vertebrae in the spine that's why christ lived 33 years and and there's a oil in your
01:42:42.840 spine called christos if you can migrate this to your pineal gland through a through meditation then you
01:42:47.260 can achieve some sort of like ascended masterhood or even that the sun is representative of christ
01:42:52.820 and the sun rests on the celestial crux for three days before the days become longer uh you know
01:42:58.420 during the winter solstice or after the winter solstice and that is reminiscent of or or at least
01:43:03.680 metaphorical for the resurrection of christ and it's like jesus christ doesn't have to be the sun in the
01:43:10.760 sky it's like whatever this realm was it's created hi i'm darren marler host of the weird darkness
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01:44:17.240 this very important story all the way throughout it wherever you're willing to look and just because
01:44:22.600 you lock on to one does not dismiss all of the other instances of that and so that's the thing that
01:44:28.740 that has been driving me nuts and i fear that in a time where i don't know if you agree with this nick
01:44:33.980 it feels like spiritually things are getting heightened oh yeah yeah i agree with that for
01:44:38.660 sure and a lot of people are not going to have a roadmap and that's going to cause what i would say
01:44:45.760 like is is a hasty falling away you know like i don't think you should there are many ways in which
01:44:52.620 the church has dropped the ball but i don't think that you should throw the baby out with the bath water
01:44:56.800 so if something happens in the near future that uproots your understanding of the spiritual realm
01:45:01.880 then you might just feel like you need to you know detach yourself and get and and spiral and
01:45:07.720 freak out and grab on to the first thing that makes sense to you which is what a lot of people do when
01:45:11.500 they first wake up when you first wake up you tend to fall for a bunch of dumb shit that's not true
01:45:15.900 because oh it's happened to me yeah oh dude it's happened to me so much it had i'm fucking so wrong
01:45:21.400 all the time all the time dude so i that's that's my big fear right now is that these things are
01:45:28.940 ancient and have stuck around for a reason and we're gonna go through some shit soon i think that
01:45:34.040 a lot of people are just gonna start tossing things in the trash yeah no i definitely think i just think
01:45:39.560 even from the idolization of politicians right now and just people in general that shows you that people
01:45:45.840 are lost you know we're going the wrong way we're looking you know we're looking for fixes of our fear
01:45:51.640 and man instead of ourselves or god you know trump is going to fix everything for me or kamala harris is
01:45:59.220 going to fix everything get the fuck out of here that's how it goes you know that's everything that
01:46:04.520 we've been inundated with right we started oh yeah i believe that shit too you know at some point
01:46:08.480 you know oh no yeah well i was uh balls deep into the queue thing oh so i was like i'm trying to tell
01:46:14.840 all my friends they're fucking drinking babies dude and nobody wants to listen to me at all
01:46:19.120 yeah then i was like you know too much of this shit seems like i just started a lot of stuff
01:46:23.320 with occultism started popping up and i was like yeah yes yeah and then he had that whole what did
01:46:29.060 he he had the the the kingmaker ritual i think is that it or the or the king the kill king ritual or
01:46:34.540 something like that right when he takes the kingmaker i think i remember that yeah yeah that's
01:46:38.600 basically the assassination attempt where it's like he has blood on his right ear blood on his right
01:46:43.160 hand and blood on his right foot because his shoe is off mysteriously like he's got no shoe on so
01:46:48.920 he's going through a ritual right before our eyes but you know we're looking at it as as uh
01:46:54.060 an assassination attempt i don't know it's all well that was the king kill ritual and the king
01:46:59.020 kill ritual thank you some would say that the king that was killed there would would have been joe biden
01:47:03.340 because right after that he steps down it's all really weird symbolic esoteric stuff if you're
01:47:09.300 looking closer we were we were some of the first people to call it out and we were like that didn't
01:47:13.780 look real at all we and i still don't think his ear looks fine now it's weird yeah his ear looks
01:47:19.920 better than fine his skin looks great by the way when they fucking zoom in on that guy for the
01:47:24.200 inauguration photo i'm like oh yeah it didn't look like an orange man as much no he didn't look like
01:47:28.260 an orange man he looked healthy and hydrated and i'm like this guy's got great skin for being
01:47:31.920 fucking really old but yeah his ear looks perfectly fine go figure it's weird because it's not even like
01:47:38.040 they're trying to hide that right it's like they like even in the picture his other ear is covered
01:47:43.760 and that ear is favoring the camera so you can like really put that bitch in 4k and zoom in on it and
01:47:49.080 be like there's no fucking discernible wound here nope that was a magical act right there
01:47:54.520 very strange very strange that's that's my fear though is that we've been stripped of our understanding
01:48:01.100 of the spiritual realm and we've been inundated by fear or with fear by this propaganda machine
01:48:06.060 right because it's like we're all pretty comfortable with if it bleeds it leads so what
01:48:11.040 have we been doing we've just been basking in just fucking like this trauma cycle from the media oh
01:48:16.280 yeah mk ultra mk ultra right right right well if you could fear if you could fear somebody it'll
01:48:24.000 probably make it easier for you to love them and then you you had mentioned that that uh the host or
01:48:30.600 the uh yeah the host would need would need to love its parasite in order for these rituals
01:48:35.840 to be successful seems like that's where we're at here yeah it would be forced feared and then
01:48:41.820 it's like you force fed fear and it's like well here's here's your savior i'm just gonna use trump
01:48:46.160 as an example because it's just an easy thing to pick i think both sides suck uh you know and then
01:48:51.200 you fall in love with him because you think he's gonna make everything better you fall in love with
01:48:54.560 his jokes you fall in love with his trolling you fall in love with the stupid shit he says you think
01:48:57.740 he's fucking funny you know you people fall in love with fucking newscasters they think they they know
01:49:02.500 who they are it's like you just know the 30 minutes a day that they show you right no tech
01:49:07.240 shit who the hell they are this is a strong one too we we've been beating the drum on trump i i really
01:49:12.540 i like trump uh but a lot of the things here that you're gonna see him do uh within it's been two
01:49:19.900 weeks right and he's used just basically executive orders to sort of turn around and write the country
01:49:25.320 in a certain i mean it's it's an obvious kind of way he's like i just signed executive order
01:49:30.600 there's only two genders is like there always was um but now it it's just like it seems like
01:49:36.740 these are problems that are created that now are going to be attributed to somebody uh that did very
01:49:42.600 little to fix them the economic problems the problems i mean that with the border like these
01:49:48.240 are simple things but i'm very suspect i'm glad that he did it because it's getting fucking out of
01:49:53.340 control it was out of control you know and it was to the point where we're like yo we need somebody
01:49:58.580 to actually come in and stop the bleeding and he came in and it's like yeah signed a couple of
01:50:03.460 papers stop the bleeding this is obvious shit you know what's interesting the when kobe crashed in
01:50:09.540 his helicopter trump was trying to shut down the border for health reasons and now we just had a
01:50:15.360 helicopter crash and shutting the border dude did you see i mean the helicopter we got fucking the
01:50:20.940 kansas city chiefs versus the philadelphia eagles this fucking plane takes off from kansas city and then
01:50:26.400 nosedives into philadelphia like what the fuck what are we doing here i don't fucking believe that
01:50:32.960 i mean i obviously know some shit crash landed whatever the fuck it was i don't even know if it was a
01:50:37.100 plane um but but i look at that and i'm like i just yeah it's it's uh the plane of the black
01:50:43.500 hawk the plane was going to runway 33 for fuck's sakes i know so ridiculous and then by the way who
01:50:48.760 who uh the kansas city no no the philadelphia eagles made a tweet like a couple of days right before it
01:50:54.560 about a helicopter like it was a helicopter they they made what you know how you could take like
01:50:58.420 some some uh symbols off your keyboard and fucking keep i don't know how people do that but they make
01:51:02.800 a post and somehow all the symbols on their keyboard they make a whole fucking helicopter it was like
01:51:07.220 that something like that and um and then sure enough right after that this helicopter crashes
01:51:11.900 and by the way we just watch this helicopter fucking it's the most slow motion like like you know
01:51:18.320 a horrific moment in the world it's like here's the plane and fucking just here comes the fucking
01:51:23.700 helicopter and it's like five minutes and this fucking helicopter is still coming and it's not
01:51:28.000 turning nobody's making any fucking effort whatsoever and how that happened like that
01:51:32.160 unless it was suicide or done on purpose it would be very hard to do it like honestly if you think about
01:51:37.360 flying in three-dimensional like space not space but three-dimensional space to to cut off an airplane
01:51:44.340 it's not easy to do you that's that's got to be intentional you don't do it by accident when they
01:51:49.800 were like they were doing like a public announcement about it i think maybe last night or the night
01:51:53.080 before they even said that uh the drill that they were doing required them to wear night vision
01:51:57.780 yeah well technically they should have been wearing those too and it's like how the fuck did you not
01:52:01.840 see this and weird thing is is the plane i think is at 325 feet and the helicopter is at 200 during the
01:52:09.160 collision so where's the 125 feet that doesn't make sense i didn't know that another thing another thing
01:52:16.060 that i threw in there yesterday at uh uh shout out to great pilled podcast with uh jewel oh nice
01:52:21.160 nice yeah um i was on there because i was just i'm binging uh uh breaking bad again and i'm up to
01:52:27.860 the season i don't know if you guys have seen it but spoiler alert there's a season where jesse's
01:52:31.800 girlfriend ods oh yeah yeah her father's an air traffic controller and the that season culminates
01:52:38.680 where uh the beginning of every episode of that season they're showing walt's pool and he has like
01:52:43.800 different debris in his pool or in his yard and and people you know they're collecting evidence and
01:52:48.660 you're assuming that it's going to be part of the drug trade that he's doing but no it's it's this
01:52:53.580 event that happens the father that's an air traffic controller is distracted or distraught and he
01:52:59.340 accidentally directs two planes into each other and they crash midair and i like it's just funny that
01:53:05.980 like i was like oh i want to watch this this is a great show and i watched it and like two days before
01:53:10.480 i watched this completely i haven't i didn't remember the show at all i was like oh my god
01:53:15.820 it was like is this predictive programming in like 2016 because that's when this yeah too i thought
01:53:21.020 that was whole weird that whole time coming back out too i was like what the fuck and it wasn't just
01:53:26.180 tanya harding either apparently there was like a couple of others so yeah silent g says tanya
01:53:29.900 harding made a twitter uh a tweet the morning of the crash after 10 years of that's even fucking
01:53:34.960 unheard of 10 years of no social media and then the most famous uh uh figure skater in the world
01:53:40.560 tweets on the morning that a bunch of figure skating children fucking die in this helicopter
01:53:45.580 this is why this is why it's like so now we're talking about ice ice skating and now i feel like
01:53:50.460 yeah dude but the breaking bad thing has it's directly dealing with the cartel and mexico so we're
01:53:57.160 talking about ice ice skating breaking bad with the cartel i'm like oh what the fuck dude it's just
01:54:01.880 information oh and ice is even on a rampage in our country right now too that's it that's it man
01:54:08.480 that's what i'm saying so so whatever's going on with trump to me it feels like i mean this is coming
01:54:13.020 from the a guy who wrote the art of the deal or the art of the comeback right was it the art of the
01:54:17.560 comeback or something like that or was it the art of the deal might have written both yeah i don't
01:54:22.640 know if you see that look that up but what but what i see is like this theatrical comeback story
01:54:26.840 right where like you have this guy he gets in he does pretty good but he gets um wrongly accused
01:54:32.680 and criticized for all kinds of shit that's paper thin anybody with a critical thinking you know or
01:54:37.240 the ability to critically think sees that they're just levying a bunch of paper thin shit at him and
01:54:41.900 it all falls apart over and over again but it still ruins his reputation and then he gets kicked out and
01:54:48.160 the fucking dude that takes his place just nosedives the entire country into philadelphia and everybody is
01:54:53.320 watching this shit show he's a corpse he's shitting his pants we're all going oh my god this is so bad
01:54:57.500 then we finally get the guy back and he just goes on a rampage and starts doing all the shit that we
01:55:02.460 want him to do i'm like this is fucking theater he wrote this is theater wrote both books so he did i
01:55:07.100 have the art of the deal here but he wrote the art of the comeback as well talking about you know how
01:55:10.560 he's gone into into debt and bankruptcy so many times and came back from it yeah well he's fucking right
01:55:16.340 now is performing the ultimate version of the art of the comeback and to me it's old theater and it goes back
01:55:20.640 to that apparently this is a big um misnomer as well but i don't give a shit i'm going to continue
01:55:26.460 spreading this fake quote uh but it was what albert pike and morals and dogma that said when the people
01:55:31.500 need a hero we shall provide one for them apparently that's that's oversimplifying the the the the the
01:55:38.160 quote from albert pike but i think still um that's what we're being subjected to it's like they create
01:55:44.080 it's a hegelian dialect kind of a deal like they'll create this scenario they'll wait for this big
01:55:48.860 reaction and then they'll slide this character in for us to to clamor around and right now i think
01:55:54.580 we're seeing in a guy who i like who's very entertaining who i do think is funny and i do
01:56:00.340 like his his policies and his legislation um we're seeing the ultimate version of that uh unfolding
01:56:06.580 right now and i don't know where this goes i mean i got a bunch of ideas but i don't think it's
01:56:10.680 anywhere good and i think we probably do go to a golden age um but it's more like a blavatsky
01:56:17.000 you know alice bailey golden age and i think it's only temporary until some shit happens it's like
01:56:22.760 what what does the bible say when they say uh peace and and prosperity or peace and uh and safety
01:56:28.520 sudden uh uh destruction shall fall upon them i think that's kind of probably what we're going to be
01:56:33.720 uh uh subjected to soon i could agree i think i think things are going to get weird for sure in
01:56:40.700 the next four years oh well look we're at the hour and 45 minute mark this is a great conversation
01:56:48.020 nick i would love to have you back in the future yeah man uh it went to places i wasn't i didn't
01:56:54.520 know we were going to end up going uh but very fascinating stuff so for the people uh one more
01:56:59.640 time let everybody know where they can find you nick uh the occult rejects and that is on bitch
01:57:03.680 you rumble and youtube and all major podcasts and then we do have the occult research institute you
01:57:09.220 can check out there and uh yeah that's where you can find all the stuff thank you
01:57:14.240 hell yeah man all right uh again it was a pleasure talking to you thank you for coming on we're going
01:57:20.040 to be uh chatting soon and uh guys until another two hours when we see you again we'll be back on
01:57:27.140 don't forget to obey submit and comply we'll see you later guys peace out
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01:57:38.480 telling us what to believe is real you can persuade you that what they see with their eyes is what
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01:57:53.080 of what's happening and they have
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