TopLobsta Appearance on the Kelly Patrick Show
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1 hour and 29 minutes
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191.20714
Summary
Top Lobster of the libertarian world joins me on The Kelly Patrick Show to talk about his new book, "Too retarded to stop" and his thoughts on the current state of the country and how we need to wake up to the fact that we are living in the end days.
Transcript
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely...
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It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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These motherfuckers are controlling this now, and no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds, and we're gonna wake up to a dead in the grave.
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But it's too late, we need to be ready to raise up.
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In today's episode, I am joined by Top Lobster.
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Top is of the libertarian world, Tower Gang pod fame, but also he does many other things.
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I think we've been trying to schedule this for maybe two years.
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So you're the last of the five that I am to interview.
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I've been told by myself and many others, they said, believe me, he's the best.
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And I even asked him about the stuff penetrating his ass, you know.
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It was a razor, but not the sharp end of the razor.
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It's the other side, the knurled end, you know, like with the...
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So for grip, yeah, apparently he has that grippy, but that's a...
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This is not going the way I thought it would go.
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And then when I had Toad on, I got him to tell this, obviously, his story, which he
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doesn't shy away from about him beating off in the hotel room.
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Do you have any stories like that about yourself?
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I do other interesting things, but they're, you know, they're my friends.
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I guess I'll tell you a little bit about my story and how I started.
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And I was working for the MTA in New York City and like kind of discovering libertarianism
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as we all were around, what, 2015, 20, really 2014s into, you know, the 2018 era.
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So all the way through the whole Trump administration and that whole thing going on.
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And you go through your like partially goofy phase where you're running around with a
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And then you realize that that's kind of retarded and gay, even though it is theft.
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But, you know, the tenets around libertarianism kind of turned out to not work, especially after
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I don't know where you where do you stand on on these days?
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I was a run of the mill Republican who didn't pay that close of attention until 2020.
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I try not to call them bigots and shit like that.
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So I'm not like a Sarwark libertarian, you know, or anything.
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But, you know, I I I don't know exactly what the solution is.
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I will be attending my first convention, to be honest.
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So I'm going to try to help here in Kentucky a little bit if I can.
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Doesn't seem like, you know, it's really making much grounds, to be honest, as much as I would
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So if you're in the you're in the libertarian space now, after all these years?
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So I didn't turn libertarian until pretty late.
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Honestly, sounds generic, but I was watching a Joe Rogan episode with Peter Schiff before
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So even before covid, I started to see that Trump was spending and, you know, contributing
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You know who Peter Schiff is the same shit he says all the time.
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I heard it and I started to follow Peter Schiff.
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And I was like, these Republicans aren't aren't exactly fiscally prudent or anything like that.
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So it kind of opened my eyes to that type stuff.
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And and from there, I started listening, you know, Dave Smith, of course, Tower Gang, shit
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But what other questions do you have for me about my journey?
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So it's like, all right, the big thing is the money, right?
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Because I was I agree with you there on, you know, Trump blew up the budget and he spent
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Well, he printed trillions of dollars after covid and to try to, of course, correct the economy.
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And we've been going through a recession ever since.
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Um, I, I, I have been critical of him along those lines with the monetary lines and also
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He is the father of the vaccine and he has pushed it.
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Um, but like recently, I'm just kind of, uh, I'm looking at the way the writing on the
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wall is and I don't, I don't think the, the dollar is going to be around that much longer.
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And I'm also trying to be a little bit more sympathetic to what happened during 2020.
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And, uh, like, what, what would I have done differently?
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Like what, like I would, I've asked Dave Smith, uh, like, what would you have done differently
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if you were in charge of the free world and, uh, a bioweapon was released and, you know,
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Like, yeah, I mean, there's things you could have done.
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Don't let Fauci run meetings every single morning, scaring the shit out of the people.
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People don't let, uh, the governors of America or at least, you know, certain parts of America
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shut down their city and create draconian laws and do dystopian things to their people.
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But then if you do that, then you would have been met with the criticism from libertarians
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that he's overstepping his bounds politically and he's a tyrant, yada, yada.
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Um, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't even know, I don't even know what to say about
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that part of it anymore, especially when I think about the dollar, whether the dollar
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I think that we're using it for the time being and we're going to be moving on to something
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He, uh, I know recently Trump, um, he basically wrote a, an executive order outlawing the use
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of CBDCs, but it seems like we're moving over to, uh, what will eventually happen is
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we're going to tie the dollar, like the actual dollar, the fiat dollar that we have into,
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we're going to tie it to some sort of cryptocurrency, possibly XRP or like a ripple, some, some sort
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But what other way are we, what other way can we do this?
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It's great, but it's not as fast as we need it to be.
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Unless we're using like, I don't know, we've got like gold backs and shit like that,
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but this is going to be really hard to, uh, this is going to be hard to distribute and
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Uh, I think I got this from New Hampshire, the free state project.
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One of my fans from Nephilim death squad, which is why I came here to talk about, I can't even
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open it's taped shut, but, um, yeah, it's a, it's called a gold back.
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So inside of it has one, one thousandth of a troy ounce of gold.
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So it's basically a dollar that I can spend, but it's real money.
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How does that work when it comes to me buying something on Amazon and don't give me the
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bullshit excuse of, well, those just don't use Amazon.
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No one's going to ever abandon the, you know, the, the luxuries that we've created in today's
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So there's a lot of issues and there's a lot of common sense things that need to be addressed
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and taken care of, which is why I've abandoned libertarianism and the libertarian party in
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general, because it's a lot of it is ideological and it just doesn't work when applied into
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Um, I don't, I don't care if, uh, everybody has guns.
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I don't care if, uh, my, my gay neighbors can have a gay wedding in their weed farm with
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If my gay neighbors don't like the way I live and want my children taken away from me
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because of vaccines that I didn't give them, then fuck them.
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Um, I'm, uh, I'm okay with, uh, taking them of their, you know, stripping them of their
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I don't even know if you expected this to go this way with this interview, but I've become
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a bit of a radical in the sense of, uh, I am, I am not going to play this game with these
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people anymore where I defend your rights and then you trample mine because it's what's
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been happening and I've ended up on with the shit end of the stick every single time.
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So, uh, yeah, I'm okay with, uh, I'm okay with a lot of these awful things and yes, they
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But right now we're in a mode of self-preservation in America.
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So it's like, we can talk about monetary policy.
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We can talk about foreign policy, but I'm talking about how are we going to survive the
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next four years or so we're on the brink of societal collapse, civil collapse, monetary
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If you believe nukes are real, um, maybe even end times prophecy.
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So yeah, we, we kind of need some drastic measures and, uh, tyrannical ideas to push us in the
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So I've, uh, I've pushed back very hard on my libertarian friends and co-host shout out
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So I assume in a way, maybe you're referring to like Trump passed something that said that
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no more of this bullshit of females saying their males and competing against, um, other
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females for sports, no biological males competing against women can't do that shit anymore.
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Kind of an end to best Trump can like affirmative action or DEI type stuff.
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I assume that's kind of what you're talking to.
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I think it's common sense and I think it's easy, low hanging fruit for him to take.
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And it's also a great signifier of how much of the, how much of the vote is real and how
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much of it is fake because, uh, I don't know, it lined up to be about 51% to 49%, right?
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But then he passes an executive order like that.
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And I take the temperature of the people around me and the people on social media in general.
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I know that these are echo chambers, but you can go to Facebook and you can go to Instagram
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and I go on my personal pages of people that I know and I see what they say about it.
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And they're kind of like, you know, either ambivalent or they're just like, whatever.
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So like that, like that real, um, the real radical ideology is coming from the fringe and
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they're a lot louder than, than they are representative of like the actual population.
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So then I, then I look at the popular vote and it's about 50, 50.
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And I'm like, well, Kamala Harris ran on abortion and cackling really.
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I don't know how much of that is actually legitimate because when I look around me, more
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and more people agree with the normalcy that we're starting to see again.
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So it, it, it even makes me think like, was this entire thing just a huge facade?
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Like when, when Donald Trump was in and people were afraid to say that they liked him, I know
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And again, there's, there's plenty of valid criticism, criticisms of Donald Trump, but
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there's, there was also this hesitancy around, around people to say like, I vote, like, like,
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like I, they've told me myself, I've gotten like hundreds of messages like, Hey man, thanks
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I wanted to say that, but I, you know, I just can't risk my job or my mom would say, but
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I'm like, I'm making my, my business's t-shirts.
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This is the old Scott Horton one, end the wars.
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But like my business is to say what I think you're thinking and my business is actually
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It's, it's another good signifier of like, well, if people didn't think this way, they
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And it's not just like they're buying like a little, I don't know, this is a little patch.
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They're not buying this and putting in their pocket.
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They're buying this shit and they're putting it on their heads and they're putting it on their
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faces and I mean, they're putting it on their heads.
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They're putting it on their chest and they're walking outside with this.
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They're, they're saying a message and there's a lot of them.
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So, um, that's another signifier to me is like, maybe, uh, maybe we've been lied to about
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the amount of people that oppose these normal ideas.
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And maybe they've also been lied to about what the ideas, the other side have been spreading.
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Like there's some really nefarious shit that the, the progressives have been saying and
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doing for years and the common Democrat, I don't think necessarily agrees with that.
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Um, but now I'm watching celebrities and I'm watching just normal people kind of come to
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And I, again, it, this sounds very pro Trump, but I'm not like.
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People didn't want to, I have black friends who disagree with me that I train with and, you
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know, good African-American, good people, friends of mine that I felt like in 2016,
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after I voted for Trump, if I would have told them I voted for Trump, they would have thought
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I was a Nazi or, you know, they would have literally thought I was an absolute piece of
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I have many friends here in Louisville who are lifelong Democrats who've come around.
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I had a couple of them messaging me yesterday and they're like, they like Trump now because
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the dem, I don't know if Charlie Kirk released a video summarizing the democratic, what was
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I think it was within the past week, the democratic national convention or some shit.
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It was like a rally with Chuck Schumer saying like, yeah, yeah, I saw this shit.
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All they talked about was doubling down on the identity politics and they were all overweight.
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They were all fucking disgusting looking humans.
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And all they talked about, you got to watch this Charlie Kirk shit.
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But all they fucking talked about was I'm a person of color and I want you to stand strong.
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And I know we got a lesbian over that's literally, it was like a satirical piece that Charlie
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Well, just yesterday, Chuck Schumer was at another rally, just basically just like outside.
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Like it's a number one, it's a toothless message.
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And number two, the video that I was watching was commenting on this and it was a CNN video.
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And the CNN anchors themselves were like, they were like, so how do you feel about this?
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And then he's like, you know, I would have been more excited if you would have had some
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black owned businesses, people out there saying their gripes.
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And I'm like, okay, again, with the identity politics, but there's a tinge of truth underneath
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It's like, I'm not excited about the bullshit that these people are saying.
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They're looking at like, so he says black owned business businesses talking about their
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Even though this is like, I don't know what it's some fucking weave shop.
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Is that the only type of shop African-Americans going to have?
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So I'm like, okay, okay, at least we can talk with each other, right?
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Now we're in this reasonable space where you're still talking about, you know, colored people's
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businesses, but we're talking about business, dollars, cents, shit that makes sense.
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Not like generational wealth, real shit, shit that I'm after.
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Hey, listen, if you're black, if you're Chinese, if you're whatever, go out there and get your
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And I understand you're trying to build for the future.
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So if we have the same goal, this is what I consider to be American.
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I think it's not necessarily, and I'm for all the deportations, like get the fuck out.
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And that's only because America's, I mean, America's a mess right now.
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We got to figure out who belongs here, number one, and then rebuild the home team.
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And then we can talk about possibly having more people come in.
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I don't want to sound like I'm an open borders libertarian.
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I mean, maybe in a perfect world, maybe we could be open borders, but like, you know,
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obviously that's not remotely close to where we're at.
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So I'm, I don't disagree with you about the deportation.
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And there's a lot of good, you know, I've met a bunch of good, like I was from New York.
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I live in Florida now because I'm not out of my mind, but I've met a lot of really good
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But the fact of the matter is like, hey, we've gotten to a point with this country that we
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And we just need to clear it out, figure out what's going on here.
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And then we can have a conversation about, you know, including other people.
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But like Jordan Peterson, who has since fell off on benzos and all that, he says, you got
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to clean your room before you try to fix the world.
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You were talking about Chuck Schumer acknowledging the private ownership of businesses within
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the black community and how that would be a better direction.
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I mean, at the end of the day, he recognizes the value.
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Chuck Schumer is making the point that they have to fight against Donald Trump because,
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you know, now that I love the talking point that Donald Trump is doing unconstitutional
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actions in the government by having like, you know, there's an unelected official in Elon
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Musk and he's auditing our unelected officials and our government agencies that were unelected
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Like, honestly, it's the greatest thing that could have happened.
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And again, libertarians would probably oppose it as well for some reason.
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So, you know, the goofy ones would be like, oh, you know, this is just more, he's making
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Yeah, but the program is looking at, it's looking at fraud and waste.
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And if it's doing those things, then okay, fine.
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But it has to be, it should be dissolved after the job is done.
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But I was making the point that those people, the people that were complaining about what
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Schumer was saying, they are of the same mindset as I am.
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They're thinking about their future and their children.
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That's America, that's American, where you're thinking about yourself, you're thinking about
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generational wealth and building something that will last beyond you in this land, in
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That's what I would like for Americans and what America and Americans to be.
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This is a country that is a prostitute for multinational organizations to come and use as they want.
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They use this as a consumer base to buy their goods.
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And if we try to, God forbid, you try to produce something here, you're regulated or taxed to death.
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And it's very hard, as a private business owner, I own two, it's very hard to operate here.
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But it seems like people operate overseas fairly easily and whatever, whatever, I digress.
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So the people that are, that have this mindset, they may be on the left, they may call themselves
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Democrat or whatever, but I feel like they are now seeing, and it's not that, not only are they
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seeing it, but eventually you're going to see them come to their senses.
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And when the economy does sort of right itself, because this is very easily fixed.
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Like, if you want to fix the money, if you want to fix the economy, if you want to alleviate the
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stress on the American people, you do exactly what Donald Trump is doing now.
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Came in with a bunch of sweeping executive orders.
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He's talking about dissolving the Department of Education.
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He's talking about getting rid of the income tax.
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The 87,000 IRS workers that were hired by Joe Biden, he says, hey, fuck off or go join
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He's talking about even getting rid of the IRS.
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These are things that people should be celebrating.
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And once these externalities are dissipated and the American people have a little bit more
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money in their pocket, they're going to start to see things a little more.
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They're going to see things not even a little bit more clear.
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And in an economic sense, they're going to see things clearly.
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So the identity politics will fall to the side.
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People will see through the bullshit and they're already seeing through it.
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How many people do already see this way, and are we being manipulated by the medias that
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still exist, and the loud people on the fringes to think that they're much louder than they
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Have we always been the majority and just been manipulated into thinking, you know, this
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I would like to believe that the majority of this country doesn't think that way.
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I'm really like a designer and distributor for podcasts.
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So some of my favorite podcast people are on there and we're picking up new ones.
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My podcasts are Tower Gang, Nephilim Death Squad, Liberty Lockdown with Clint Russell.
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I sell some Better Off Dead merch, or that's Toad.
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He's the guy that got arrested and detained by the Taliban.
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He visited Afghanistan and they kept him there for like nine months.
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Hey, the guys from, Jesus, Royce and Mersh from, wow, losing my mind here.
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The best way to really support me is listening to my podcast, Nephilim Death Squad.
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That's what I'd like to make my main source of income, if possible.
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Nephilim Death Squad is kind of a conspiracy theory type podcast.
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Before we jump into the details of your conspiracy theory approach and all that,
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I heard in one of the early episodes, I was doing some homework for this interview,
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and I don't want to call you a fag because that would be rude.
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Not a theater nerd, but yeah, this is a guilty pleasure of mine.
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Fuck you for bringing it up, but let's talk about it.
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So when I met my wife, that's just like what we do if we have free time,
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But Hamilton, one of the biggest pieces of propaganda that you can,
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but one of my favorite pieces of art in general.
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I love his songwriting ability and the way he's able to manipulate,
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you know, words and frequency in that manner to get people to do what he wants
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So obviously Hamilton is a play that's lionizing Alexander Hamilton,
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who is the person responsible for creating the Federal National Bank or the,
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I guess it is the, yeah, the National Bank and accruing all this debt.
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If you know the history of it, I'm able to look at some parts and say,
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And a lot of the parts in the first act are great.
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The parts in the second act kind of really paints him to more than they should be.
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I assume when you lived in New York, you were able to see,
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you probably had access to some of the greatest theater on planet Earth.
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I assume you've taken a step down from that since you moved to Florida
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and you don't have quite the opportunities to see the shows.
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Well, I mean, I'm near Orlando and I'm near Tampa.
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The Straz is in Tampa and they pick up some pretty good talent.
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You're not going to get the main cast of Hamilton
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but they do travel and they have really good talent.
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So most of the, I've seen, we've seen some plays around here
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if you're going to go see Hamilton on Broadway,
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because you're going to get some fucking Chinese guy
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Was my description of Nephilim Death Squad accurate
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in that it's kind of a conspiracy theory podcast?
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And I know I've said a lot of wild shit here before
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that you believe Jesus Christ died for our sins
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that our people in church are scared to discuss.
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Yeah, these are people who study the Gnostic Bible
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