Nephilim Death Squad - June 27, 2025


176: Creating Conscious Entities: Tulpas, Egregores & Ritual Magic w⧸ Greypilled Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

177.54747

Word Count

21,899

Sentence Count

2,117

Misogynist Sentences

44

Hate Speech Sentences

97


Summary

Jules of the Gray Pilled Podcast joins us to talk about his new book, "The Devil Next Door" and how the government is trying to brainwash us all with lies and propaganda. Join us in this episode of the Nedelyim Death Squad!


Transcript

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00:00:49.980 We are being hypnotized by people like this.
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00:01:00.980 We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
00:01:09.360 The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely normal.
00:01:15.740 Oh yeah, dude.
00:01:16.900 There's some Nephilim shit.
00:01:18.060 It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the grave.
00:01:23.580 But they controlling this now.
00:01:25.520 I know we're talking about how they made us probably slaves.
00:01:28.660 And everybody's just walking around, heading to clouds.
00:01:31.420 I want to wake up to a dead in the grave.
00:01:33.860 But then it's too late.
00:01:34.840 We need to be ready to raise up.
00:01:36.660 Welcome to the end of day.
00:01:38.400 Everybody is slaves.
00:01:39.840 Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in their hands.
00:01:43.540 Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad.
00:01:49.740 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.
00:01:52.960 That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
00:01:56.420 Hello.
00:01:56.820 Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30-minute preview only.
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00:03:03.760 All right, listen, what are we doing?
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00:03:10.400 All right, anyway, joining us today, after too long of a hiatus, we tried to make it happen sooner.
00:03:16.620 Things kind of didn't work out one way or another, but we finally got them here.
00:03:19.940 We are back once again with Jules of the Gray Pilled Podcast.
00:03:25.680 Jules, before we get into the conversation, let everybody know where they can find you and what it is that you focus on.
00:03:31.360 Jules, what's up, guys?
00:03:33.760 Jules, I have the Gray Pilled Podcast.
00:03:37.300 I have a few shows I do.
00:03:38.700 I am the Elohim etymologist as well as the sound scientist I do with Paranoid American.
00:03:44.280 I have a Patreon.
00:03:49.180 It's usually where I spend most of my time lately, but we do a lot of cool things over there.
00:03:58.360 Today we do an esoteric book review.
00:04:00.500 We are now currently watching Twin Peaks.
00:04:03.780 We're on season two, I believe, and we're kind of unpacking that, trying to dive into that,
00:04:09.980 and find all the occult symbolism and esoteric undertones throughout the show.
00:04:20.840 It's a good time, so we have fun over there.
00:04:23.460 Yeah, I host Already Dead.
00:04:28.720 Well, I produce, let's say that, every Tuesday.
00:04:32.800 I also do a show every other Sunday called Sunday Chaos with Conspiracy Extremist, Not Nice Guy,
00:04:39.560 and Nate from Reality Czars.
00:04:41.860 Go up real quick.
00:04:42.660 Scroll up.
00:04:43.060 Why did that look like?
00:04:44.960 Oh, that's XG.
00:04:46.320 Dude, I thought that that was Alex the red-coated Jew from the joke joint.
00:04:50.460 I was so confused.
00:04:51.980 Doesn't it look like him?
00:04:52.840 I was like, what the hell's going on?
00:04:54.100 How did you-
00:04:54.580 Shout out.
00:04:54.860 I thought it was me for a second.
00:04:56.240 I was like, what the fuck?
00:04:56.900 I don't remember doing that.
00:04:58.460 It looks like you.
00:04:59.340 Shout out XG.
00:05:00.220 He should be coming on soon.
00:05:01.460 I got a lot of stuff in the works.
00:05:03.160 Got a lot of people coming on this summer.
00:05:05.800 You know, Jules, we've been watching you develop.
00:05:10.220 You've been one of my favorite shows to watch your development.
00:05:13.960 You linked up with all the right people.
00:05:15.580 You have all of the right information.
00:05:18.080 We're very surface level here on Nephilim Death Squad.
00:05:22.960 You actually go deeper.
00:05:24.500 You do the research.
00:05:25.300 You understand these things.
00:05:26.360 For example, I tried to watch Twin Peaks.
00:05:29.800 I found that I'm simply too retarded to watch Twin Peaks.
00:05:32.380 I can't even focus long enough to get through the first two episodes.
00:05:36.120 You're already on the second season, so I think that speaks volumes as to your ability to-
00:05:39.800 It's my third time watching the second season.
00:05:40.920 Your third time watching it?
00:05:42.340 Yeah.
00:05:42.580 That sounds masochistic, honestly.
00:05:44.600 That doesn't sound-
00:05:45.200 That sounds like a punishment.
00:05:46.400 I hear it's very good.
00:05:48.520 You know, you have Isaac Weissip who rants and raves about it, and I want to give it a chance,
00:05:52.860 but every time I try to, I have hamster brain.
00:05:55.920 I just can't focus for that long.
00:05:57.840 Can we talk about that just a little bit?
00:06:00.080 What are you finding in Twin Peaks?
00:06:02.340 What the hell is worth watching three times over?
00:06:04.940 How about that?
00:06:05.320 Well, I just want to say, shout out Isaac.
00:06:09.260 We actually talked over the DMs this past weekend.
00:06:15.400 He's going to be- I really don't think he's talked about Twin Peaks publicly much.
00:06:19.460 He's thrown little hints here and there, but he does something on his Patreon, I think,
00:06:23.460 called the Gray Lodge, which is funny that it's named that.
00:06:27.360 Oh, yeah.
00:06:27.640 But I think we have a show planned here in a couple months that we are going to be diving
00:06:32.460 into Twin Peaks for him.
00:06:35.360 Very excited.
00:06:35.820 I don't think he's-
00:06:37.440 I think he's done it behind the scenes a whole bunch with people that are subscribed to him,
00:06:41.360 so it should be fun.
00:06:43.400 But, man, it's the aesthetic of the show.
00:06:47.540 I'm a big fan of David Lynch, so everything from the cinematography to the color to the outfits
00:06:57.580 that they wear, to the music.
00:06:59.480 The music is a huge part.
00:07:01.020 I think it's part of a giant ritual in itself, maybe.
00:07:04.160 So I watched it three times.
00:07:07.100 Subjected myself to it three times.
00:07:08.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:09.300 Well, I mean, now I got all the people on the Patreon.
00:07:13.360 Some, most of them, who are y'all's viewers as well, kind of obsessed with it, too.
00:07:20.080 So it's a little cultish.
00:07:22.500 But, man, when you get into it and, like, you figure out that this place that, you know,
00:07:30.800 the setting of the show, which is in Twin Peaks up in Washington, it's just a very, like,
00:07:38.260 mystical place.
00:07:40.460 You realize that there's more than what meets the eye.
00:07:43.940 There's owls everywhere.
00:07:45.200 There's portals opening.
00:07:46.520 There's these different lodges that this FBI agent is trying to find.
00:07:52.000 And it all has to do with this girl that died in the very first episode.
00:07:56.260 And, like, dude, when you get into the lore of the show and all these other shows that
00:08:01.320 are newer, that are based off of, like, the main ideal of Twin Peaks, it's, but, I mean,
00:08:06.840 dude, there's a Black Lodge in it.
00:08:08.440 And, like, you get into the Black Lodge, you get into Crowley.
00:08:11.560 Is there a Moose Lodge?
00:08:13.240 Huh?
00:08:14.660 Is there a Moose Lodge?
00:08:16.500 A Moose Lodge.
00:08:17.940 There might be, actually.
00:08:19.660 There is a Great Northern Lodge, the hotel.
00:08:21.780 You know what's funny, Jules?
00:08:22.900 My son watches this show, Gravity Falls.
00:08:26.640 And, apparently, the guys who created Gravity Falls went and got David Lynch's blessing to
00:08:32.980 do the show.
00:08:33.560 It's a cartoon for children, but it's basically Twin Peaks for children, is my understanding.
00:08:37.480 And so, yeah, there's, like, this cabin that's in the woods, and there's actually a place
00:08:43.480 in Oregon, I believe.
00:08:45.420 It's called, like, the Vortex.
00:08:47.540 And there is, inside this area, yeah, Gravity Falls is a wild, wild show.
00:08:51.840 Yeah, he was showing me the book.
00:08:52.880 I'm like, what?
00:08:53.340 I told David, I was like, burn this book.
00:08:55.200 Don't let your son fucking look at this thing.
00:08:57.140 Well, it's interesting, right?
00:08:58.040 Because, you know, Jules, you have kids, and, you know, they...
00:09:02.480 This guy has a fucking Freemason hat.
00:09:05.320 It's wild.
00:09:05.640 Yeah, he's got the beds on.
00:09:07.580 He's a shiner.
00:09:08.800 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:09.700 So, it's an interesting line to walk, because it's made for children.
00:09:14.320 It's got all this conspiracy stuff in it.
00:09:16.060 But I found conspiracy pretty organically when I was very young.
00:09:20.940 And to be perfectly honest, they're injecting all of this symbolism and all of these subversive
00:09:25.300 messages, especially in children's entertainment, just beneath the surface, not in such an overt
00:09:29.920 way.
00:09:30.280 But unlike, you know, me, my child actually has a schizo father to help guide him through
00:09:36.840 these things and explain to him, you know, what they are and things of that nature.
00:09:41.620 So, I'm letting him watch it.
00:09:43.920 And I'm finding that these things have...
00:09:45.660 There's so much wild symbolism, so many wild themes and ideas that just go right over his
00:09:53.020 head.
00:09:53.180 He's not even paying attention to it.
00:09:54.980 But it's my understanding that it was loosely based off of Twin Peaks in some way, shape,
00:09:59.440 or form.
00:09:59.720 So, that is a form of Twin Peaks I can digest, is a child's cartoon version of Twin Peaks.
00:10:06.260 Yeah, man.
00:10:06.800 And like you said, at the surface level, it just looks like a cartoon.
00:10:09.780 When you watch Twin Peaks at a surface level, if you're not familiar with the occult or anything
00:10:14.400 that's supernatural, because the X-Files, I mean, it's a lot of the same actors that were
00:10:19.160 in the X-Files.
00:10:19.900 So, those shows kind of coincide.
00:10:22.140 But it just looks like a 90s soap opera, basically.
00:10:25.120 Like, I told my mom that I was watching Twin Peaks on Patreon, and she kind of laughed at
00:10:29.300 me.
00:10:29.460 She was like, really?
00:10:30.760 I was like, yeah.
00:10:31.460 She was like, oh, I didn't know that you would be into that show.
00:10:32.780 I thought you were married to a woman.
00:10:34.120 Like, what happened?
00:10:35.700 I didn't know I raised a bitch.
00:10:40.760 But, no, man.
00:10:42.580 There's something to it.
00:10:44.080 And then when you watch it again, and you find these other things in it, you're like,
00:10:47.080 okay.
00:10:47.920 There's something here.
00:10:50.120 But the craziest thing to me is how at the end of the second season, there's something
00:10:53.700 said about, I'll see you in 25 years.
00:10:56.020 And 25 years later, he comes out with Twin Peaks season three, The Return.
00:11:01.220 What?
00:11:01.840 And then you watch that.
00:11:03.240 Yes.
00:11:04.320 And it's fucking, it's phenomenal.
00:11:07.560 When you put it all together, and if you are a member of the Patreon, you get to do that.
00:11:13.200 It's also a place where you can come and learn about this kind of knowledge.
00:11:17.520 You don't have to go join some lodge and jerk off in a coffin.
00:11:22.580 That's kind of half the fun, though, isn't it?
00:11:23.940 And go join the gray-pilled Patreon.
00:11:26.320 What's up?
00:11:26.940 I said jerking off in the coffin is kind of half the fun, isn't it?
00:11:29.660 I'm not going to lie, though.
00:11:30.500 Yes.
00:11:31.980 You know, my inability to watch Twin Peaks is partially due because it's just me in a vacuum
00:11:38.300 watching it.
00:11:38.820 I think joining your Patreon and hanging out with you and all of the guys in the chat and
00:11:44.000 everything, all the fans there, might make it a more fun experience.
00:11:47.380 Because I keep hearing, there's a lot of shows like this.
00:11:50.120 If you just hang on, it gets better.
00:11:52.360 You lock in.
00:11:53.260 But a guy that decides to pick up season three 25 years after he says that he's going to do
00:11:59.040 that, I'm a big fan of that kind of a thing.
00:12:01.560 I'm a big fan of that kind of a thing.
00:12:02.800 So it does sound very interesting to me.
00:12:04.520 I might have to sign up for your Patreon.
00:12:06.620 That's crazy.
00:12:07.760 I do have a $2 tier.
00:12:09.700 Oh, okay.
00:12:10.920 All right.
00:12:11.320 You got a tier I can afford then.
00:12:13.240 We used to have a $2 tier, but that was a Mandela effect.
00:12:17.420 Yeah.
00:12:17.660 So we actually never did have a $2.
00:12:19.040 I don't know what the fuck these people are talking about.
00:12:20.620 It's interesting.
00:12:21.200 25 years.
00:12:22.080 Like, who's to say that you're even alive?
00:12:24.520 And is it also the X-Files people in the remake 25 years later or the third season?
00:12:33.060 The same actors?
00:12:34.700 The same people from Twin Peaks?
00:12:36.520 Yeah.
00:12:37.240 Yeah.
00:12:37.620 Yeah.
00:12:37.780 Yeah.
00:12:37.980 It's the same people.
00:12:39.960 That's crazy.
00:12:40.860 Like, there's a lot of people that make cameos in it.
00:12:43.800 Like, fucking Dave, I think it was David Bowie was in Fire Walk With Me, which was the movie
00:12:48.620 he made.
00:12:49.660 I think Lynch wanted to make, like, a chain of movies after the second season of Twin
00:12:54.140 Peaks, so he made Fire Walk With Me, which is a cult classic now, but at the time, it
00:12:58.540 didn't hit so good.
00:12:59.860 But fucking Dave, I'm pretty sure it was David Bowie.
00:13:02.260 Yeah.
00:13:02.700 He played, like, a special FBI agent in it.
00:13:05.960 Oh, that's cool.
00:13:06.500 So, like, people wanted to be a part of this thing, and then 25 years later, there's tons
00:13:10.900 of, like, A, B-list celebrities in the third season.
00:13:15.440 But the storyline is great, and it picks up, like, right where you thought it would.
00:13:19.860 But Lynch was big into, like, fucking a lot of Buddhist mysticism and stuff, so he was
00:13:25.900 so, like, he talks about tulpas a bunch and uses them a lot in his show.
00:13:31.640 Yeah, this is something that you and I discussed, you know, what are we going to talk about on
00:13:36.800 the show?
00:13:37.480 And you said, how do you feel about talking about tulpas?
00:13:41.560 And I said, I pronounced it out loud.
00:13:43.960 When I read it, I said, tulpa.
00:13:45.660 Because that's how I felt like it should be pronounced.
00:13:47.440 I said, tulpa.
00:13:48.280 When I read it, and then I said, never heard of it at all.
00:13:51.100 And so, to you, that was good.
00:13:53.060 You said that was good.
00:13:54.220 That makes it more exciting.
00:13:55.380 So, I don't know a damn thing about tulpas, tulpas.
00:14:00.960 I'm not sure what they are.
00:14:02.800 Give me a crash course for retards in what that is.
00:14:07.660 Well, I'd say, think of it as your imaginary friend, right?
00:14:16.060 Something along the lines of that.
00:14:18.220 This comes from Eastern Buddhism, Buddhist mysticism.
00:14:24.460 And so, that was kind of brought into Western esotericism through theosophy, Blavatsky, stuff
00:14:33.180 like that.
00:14:33.660 But these concepts exist, and I think were later used, like, in our culture, in pop
00:14:39.900 culture, a lot more, way more so than we know.
00:14:44.580 But a tulpa is basically a meditative thought form that you create mentally, right?
00:14:51.320 Because in the esoteric traditions, you have your physical body, you have your etheric
00:14:57.820 body, you have your astral body.
00:15:00.160 But then, the highest of all is your mental plane, right?
00:15:04.540 Like, everything is mental, which is actually pretty interesting when you think about it.
00:15:10.820 So, this is created in the mental plane.
00:15:15.620 And then, over time, especially, I guess, if you're practicing what you would call tulpamancy,
00:15:24.520 which makes it sound a little more sinister, right?
00:15:28.560 And that very well may be the case, because, like, these things can manifest physically, I believe.
00:15:37.260 Now, there's also a chance that a demon or an entity could possess this tulpa that you
00:15:46.040 create and kind of run with it.
00:15:48.400 Because it is said that if you don't have enough control of this tulpa that you create, it does
00:15:55.020 develop its own kind of, like, consciousness and starts to be kind of mischievous, I guess
00:16:05.080 you could say, kind of, like, play pranks on you and stuff.
00:16:09.840 All right.
00:16:10.000 So, already, I've got, like, there's two branches of thought that I have going on when
00:16:15.320 it comes to this.
00:16:15.840 One is the obvious one when it comes to, like, manifestation, right?
00:16:18.340 Which, I'm a Christian.
00:16:20.620 I believe that a lot of people are, when they're talking about manifesting the things that they
00:16:24.480 want in reality, they're really just mincing manifestation with prayer.
00:16:29.460 And then, the problem is, if you're manifesting, you're, like, you're addressing the universe,
00:16:35.060 which is an interesting thing.
00:16:35.940 It's worshiping or praying to or appealing to the creation instead of the creator.
00:16:42.340 But, you know, I think that a lot of the time, you'll find you'll get similar results if
00:16:46.760 you pray to God the Father instead of just trying to do this manifestation.
00:16:52.120 It's basically paganism, right?
00:16:54.040 But the other thing—
00:16:54.760 You're working more through the body than through your spirit, like, through your connection
00:16:58.620 with the Holy Spirit, right?
00:17:00.040 Right, right, right.
00:17:00.840 Yeah.
00:17:00.980 And the other thing that it brings to mind is when people will have something that resembles
00:17:06.260 a demonic encounter, but this thing will take the form of something, like, kind of goofy.
00:17:12.460 For example, for children, sometimes you'll hear these stories of waking up in, like, a
00:17:19.280 sleep paralysis state, but their favorite action figure is now life-size and standing in the
00:17:26.160 fucking corner of the room.
00:17:27.040 And I'd have heard a very similar thing with the film 27 and a half hours or something
00:17:34.420 like that.
00:17:34.980 It's a film with James Franco.
00:17:37.860 He is a hiker slash rock climber.
00:17:41.920 One thing leads to another.
00:17:43.160 He ends up in this tragedy where he—and he gets pinned in a canal.
00:17:48.740 Chop his arm off, right?
00:17:49.860 He has to chop his arm off.
00:17:51.040 Yeah, a boulder pins his arm.
00:17:53.120 There's simply no way to get out.
00:17:54.240 He's going to die there.
00:17:54.600 Talk about Dark Knight of the Soul.
00:17:55.780 Oh, yes.
00:17:57.120 Yes.
00:17:57.780 And what he ends up doing is he goes to an experience where he ends up seeing Scooby-Doo.
00:18:02.880 127 hours.
00:18:03.620 Thank you, Rhett.
00:18:04.220 Shout out, Rhett.
00:18:05.140 Amen, Rhett.
00:18:05.900 So, so—
00:18:06.660 Oh, I remember that film.
00:18:07.840 Yeah, that's crazy.
00:18:08.800 Dude, it was a rough watch.
00:18:10.220 He had to snap his arm.
00:18:10.500 A lot of people see weird shit, like, in—yeah.
00:18:13.800 He saw Scooby-Doo down there.
00:18:16.000 Holy shit, dude.
00:18:17.040 Hey, oh, can you warn somebody before you bring up that tulpa, that fucking tulpa on the screen like that?
00:18:24.300 We have sensitive viewers watching.
00:18:25.780 My bad.
00:18:26.080 Good God, man.
00:18:27.060 I thought it pertained, but please continue.
00:18:28.700 I mean, it does.
00:18:29.400 It's just like, you know—
00:18:30.200 Sleep paralysis, demon.
00:18:31.440 Warn somebody.
00:18:32.500 So, so, what I'm—what I'm getting at here is, like, if you should—I'm not saying he saw a demon in 127 hours, but I've heard enough stories of people seeing strange things.
00:18:42.000 I wonder if you can create a fleshed-out enough image of a thing in your mind, like children will do with their favorite toys or something like that, if some familiar spirit, whether malicious or otherwise, whatever, can take the form of that because it's unique to you.
00:18:59.420 I mean, these things are shapeshifters, right?
00:19:00.840 Like, does that resonate at all?
00:19:02.500 Yeah, in-soul thought forms.
00:19:05.300 Annie Besson and other theosophists.
00:19:07.920 Sorry, Top.
00:19:08.920 Go ahead.
00:19:09.540 Well, I was just going to say, this has been talked about, where astral elementals can enter these thought forms and basically become that of what you think, you know?
00:19:21.220 Right.
00:19:21.420 What—because, you know, like I said, think of, like, an imaginary friend, if a kid really believes that this thing exists and believes it for a number of years and puts a lot of, you know, energy and thought into it.
00:19:39.320 Like, does it exist?
00:19:40.940 Like, does it—I've seen—I talked about this recently on—I don't know what episode, but there's a picture in one of these many, like, paranormal, you know, top 10 videos or whatever.
00:19:54.860 Yeah.
00:19:55.100 And it's in this, like, playpen, and it's up, like, in the playpen.
00:20:01.160 She's, like, taking pictures of her kid, and in the window next to her kid is this face of, like, this Muppet-looking creature.
00:20:07.060 But it doesn't look like a—it doesn't look like a puppet.
00:20:10.920 It looks like something, like, like, something's off with it.
00:20:13.620 You're, like, wait a minute.
00:20:14.620 What?
00:20:15.480 And then it, like, took another picture, and it was gone or something, and it's, like, you know, is that that kid's imaginary friend?
00:20:22.220 I've seen a few videos like that.
00:20:23.980 I used to spend a lot of time on YouTube.
00:20:26.360 Me too, dude.
00:20:27.300 Yeah.
00:20:27.500 Nukes Top 5 and Slapped Ham.
00:20:30.340 Shout out to those guys.
00:20:31.160 Yeah, shout out Slapped Ham.
00:20:32.920 Yep.
00:20:33.400 Yeah, he shaved his head and called it Shaved Ham.
00:20:35.460 That was funny.
00:20:37.620 Those guys are great, though.
00:20:38.800 They just—
00:20:39.260 They are.
00:20:39.440 I try not to watch it anymore because I think you kind of open yourself to that sort of thing, and I always end up doing that.
00:20:44.940 Me and my wife, dude, we quit watching Paranormal caught on camera before bed because we were, like, you know, we're falling asleep with the show playing.
00:20:53.580 Super dangerous.
00:20:54.580 Like, yeah, bro.
00:20:55.500 Especially, well, especially, like, you know, we pray, you know, a whole lot, and we're pretty spiritually in tune with Christ.
00:21:01.820 And so, it's, you know, if you weren't—if you didn't have that protection, right?
00:21:06.560 Yeah.
00:21:06.680 It's, like, what could creep through your TV, like, literally the ring?
00:21:10.300 Dude, I used to fall asleep to ESPN, and, like, during basketball season, I had, like, a bad wigger streak for a little while there.
00:21:18.240 So, I had to turn that shit off.
00:21:21.040 What do they call Puerto Rican that try to act black?
00:21:25.020 Yeah.
00:21:25.480 How does that look?
00:21:26.880 Not great.
00:21:27.420 What do they call it?
00:21:28.480 Did they just call it a wigger?
00:21:29.560 It's called a pigger.
00:21:30.760 Yeah, they called me Ricky Martin after that.
00:21:32.640 I never quite got in.
00:21:35.740 There was a time where I was watching Nukes Top 5, and I always remember this one video in particular where it's these two little girls, these toddlers, they're sitting at a kid's table in a kitchen, and the one little girl, she's turned, and she's looked into the next room, and she's freaking out, and she's crying about something.
00:21:51.720 She's pointing, she's pointing, she's pointing.
00:21:53.160 Her little sister, or her sister, they're very young, could have been, like, five or something, is mocking her, laughing at the fact that her sister is scared of something because there's nothing there.
00:22:04.280 So, over and over again, she turns, and she sees nothing, and she's laughing, and the mom is recording, going, why is this happening?
00:22:09.600 What the hell?
00:22:10.420 And then, all of a sudden, the little girl takes, like, a third or fourth take, looks into that room where her sister is afraid to look, and then there's still nothing there on camera, but the little girl locks up.
00:22:21.460 Like, she sees something, and she starts fucking screaming, dude.
00:22:26.300 Screaming to the point where her mom, like, you know, the camera goes off, and whatever happens, happens.
00:22:30.760 That little girl, it was like she didn't see it the first three times, and on the fourth one, she saw it.
00:22:35.000 Every once in a while, those videos, a hundred of them are trash.
00:22:38.460 One of them is like, what the fuck is that?
00:22:41.060 And that one is the one that creeps in and ruins your night.
00:22:44.940 But, Jules, you're talking about these thought forms.
00:22:47.280 I've heard a lot of people dismiss what Christians will call demonic encounters, or any other spiritual person will say, yeah, trickster spirit, I ran into this, I ran into that.
00:22:58.380 And they'll use this terminology thought form almost as a dismissal.
00:23:03.620 Like, it doesn't exist on any plane of reality whatsoever.
00:23:06.400 It's just a fabrication of your mind.
00:23:08.740 What do you think about that?
00:23:10.040 Um, well, in, okay, so when you talk about that, if you look at an egregore, and you get into, like, the occult traditions of creating an egregore, or, like, these thought forms, how they're, my voice is cracked, how they're manifested.
00:23:29.180 They have to exist in, you create them in these other realms before they can manifest physically.
00:23:36.560 So, they exist in a celestial realm, an astral realm, and then, finally, the physical realm, if you were, and that's, that's going on with, and I'm sure we were going to get into it.
00:23:50.060 I mean, I mean, it's basically chaos magic, right?
00:23:52.760 Mm-hmm.
00:23:53.000 Uh, creating these, what you would call a servitor, which it is, what it sounds like, something that serves a purpose, um, that you would create.
00:24:04.300 Is that, like, a homunculi?
00:24:06.280 Dude, yeah, it gets into the homunculus, the homunculus being, like, a smaller, kind of, uh, representation of yourself, maybe, in something smaller, right?
00:24:18.300 Um, or that could also be inhabited by some other spirit.
00:24:24.320 Is, is this, like, uh, uh, Frankenstein's monster, is that, or at least the original?
00:24:28.640 Yeah, like the golem, like the Jewish golem as well.
00:24:30.980 That would be something like a servitor.
00:24:33.340 Um, but an example of a tulpa, and we talked about this, I think, on Horseshoes the other night, um, would be Slenderman.
00:24:42.140 You know, this, this guy was, kind of, talked about, and, uh, you know, these, all these stories were spread about him, and then, you know, all of a sudden you have two small girls that are sacrificing their friend to him, right?
00:25:00.720 Yeah, yeah, so for people who are unfamiliar with that, I mean, you know, you could be peripherally aware of Slenderman because of its popularity over the past, I would say, like, decade, really.
00:25:10.040 But, um, it seems to have sprung exclusively out of what are called creepypastas, which are fictional stories written by relatively talented, you know, anonymous people on the internet.
00:25:20.100 And, um, but to Jules' point, it does kind of come to a head, this, this, uh, obsession with Slenderman, uh, with two girls murdering a third one, right?
00:25:32.780 And, you know, I've been looking at that, Jules, for a while, and I go, is that something that was entirely fabricated, or is it a nothing is new under the sun sort of a situation?
00:25:46.160 And those people who made those creepypastas were inspired by something that, that did exist in some realm, some point.
00:25:53.280 That existed already in the ether.
00:25:54.660 Yeah, that's, that's kind of where I lean. What do you think?
00:25:57.760 Uh, that could very well be a possibility. Um, however, like, the, the physical, kind of, the physical manifestation of the Slenderman, I've, I've seen hundreds of videos that could be Slenderman, it could be early AI, I, I, I don't know what it could be.
00:26:14.460 Uh, it could be a fucking sock puppet. Uh, it could be that.
00:26:18.260 Gotta warn people. I see how it feels. I'm sorry. That's not nice.
00:26:22.180 Slenderman. Um, not so Slenderman.
00:26:26.300 But that would be the Tulpa. Um, I do think it probably goes further back to an ancient spirit.
00:26:34.140 Um, that takes the form of this thought form that was kind of, you know, thought about, especially when you have multiple people thinking up this same idea, this same, uh, creature, whatever it may be.
00:26:51.620 Yeah.
00:26:52.180 It's way more likely to, you know, start to exist on a much more physical level.
00:26:59.920 Uh, you know, then, but like I said, this goes into meditation.
00:27:04.460 Um, you know, and that's what, that's where it comes from in, you know, Tibetan mysticism.
00:27:11.480 Um, I guess you could say more Tibetan than Buddhist, uh, than just like regular Buddhism.
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00:28:12.780 But, um, there's, there's a, uh, theosophist named, uh, what's her name?
00:28:20.680 What's her name?
00:28:21.640 Alexandra David Neal, who wrote a book called Magic and Mystery in Tibet.
00:28:26.600 And she talks about, she created this tulpa.
00:28:31.380 Tulpa, it took her six months to meditate every day and create this tulpa.
00:28:38.100 It was a jolly monk kind of guy.
00:28:42.100 And at first she was just seeing him in her mind's eye and stuff.
00:28:45.420 And she would, she thought that someone was in the room with her, but really wasn't.
00:28:48.720 But then she would have guests at her home and they were, and they were like, who's, who's
00:28:53.260 that Friar Tuck looking guy that's in the corner?
00:28:56.060 And she, I don't think she had a name for him, but he started to manifest physically.
00:29:01.760 Do you think ghosts are, uh, tulpas?
00:29:05.160 Because, uh, in my, uh, my, my mom used to live in a place in an apartment that her sister
00:29:10.820 got, she, well, she got the apartment, uh, rented by her brother after, and then after
00:29:16.380 her brother, her sister rent.
00:29:17.880 So it was like in the family for like 30 years, this apartment.
00:29:20.860 And they, they all described this guy, I forget what they call him.
00:29:24.540 Um, they gave him a name.
00:29:26.160 It's like Frank, was it Frank or no, um, I remember you telling, yeah, I remember you
00:29:30.800 telling me about this, but yeah, the guy would just like stand by the kitchen and they all
00:29:34.980 described the same thing.
00:29:36.440 They never like told anyone about it until it kind of came up.
00:29:39.960 And then they all said, yeah, I've seen this guy.
00:29:42.440 And my, of course my own named him.
00:29:44.800 She's out of her mind.
00:29:46.200 But, uh, that's a powerful move by the way, naming, name it when you give it a name.
00:29:50.800 Yeah.
00:29:51.500 Yeah.
00:29:51.740 Yeah.
00:29:51.900 I think, uh, she, her instincts were probably correct to name it, to control it, but she
00:29:58.480 had no intention to cast any of this stuff out.
00:30:01.600 As a matter of fact, like most of her actions brought more, more things in, like she's bringing
00:30:06.540 in the Ouija board to her house.
00:30:07.760 And they had like, uh, they were buying VHS tapes.
00:30:10.620 I mean, like wall to wall of horror movies from blockbusters.
00:30:14.380 This is back in the day, you know, it's like, yeah, just real stupid shit she was doing,
00:30:18.480 but she named him.
00:30:19.960 What was his name?
00:30:20.660 Anyway.
00:30:20.980 Yeah.
00:30:21.640 It's just weird.
00:30:22.400 Cause it's like this entity shows.
00:30:24.700 What?
00:30:25.340 But putting a name to it, definitely.
00:30:27.980 I would think creates a toll play, but it's funny how, how you said, uh, tries to control
00:30:33.440 it because like you, you, that's, that's kind of the purpose of, of these things, but
00:30:38.320 you, it's so easy.
00:30:39.400 That's, I mean, it's such a slippery slope, right?
00:30:41.640 Like anything happened to do with the occult.
00:30:43.660 That's why you probably just shouldn't practice it.
00:30:45.640 Um, and she wasn't, she wasn't practicing.
00:30:47.360 She was just like, it was there in the house.
00:30:50.900 Cause my mother was there before and my mother wasn't practicing, but this entity was there.
00:30:55.540 Okay.
00:30:56.000 And, and my mom saw it.
00:30:58.040 She didn't like it.
00:30:59.540 Like he would, he would stick in the corner of the kitchen and watch them when they cook
00:31:02.920 the woman.
00:31:03.640 And he'd just be kind of at ease, like a smiling.
00:31:06.560 They were like older Jewish guy.
00:31:07.900 And she like, she's like, if I don't pay attention to it, he kind of just stays there
00:31:13.440 or sometimes he won't show up.
00:31:15.240 My aunt is talking to him.
00:31:17.000 She's crazy, but I think it's a fear mechanism.
00:31:19.060 Like she's scared, but doesn't want to admit she's scared.
00:31:22.600 So she's like, Oh yeah, I seen, I seen him.
00:31:24.440 She's ghetto and retarded.
00:31:25.480 I seen him and I gave him a name.
00:31:27.160 It doesn't mean they're practicing magic, but there, there are people who intentionally
00:31:30.640 create tulpas.
00:31:32.120 I'm saying like that lady that, that did the, yeah, there she is.
00:31:35.860 There she is.
00:31:36.300 That's an older picture of her.
00:31:37.520 There's a younger picture that you can find where she kind of doesn't look human.
00:31:40.880 So she's a white lady.
00:31:42.100 Why, why, why is it, why is it the, dude, she hung out with, uh, so was the other chick
00:31:47.580 who, who, who, who I brought up, uh, hanging out with, uh, Helena Blavatsky and all, all
00:31:53.320 those people.
00:31:54.060 Unbelievable.
00:31:54.940 Uh, yeah.
00:31:55.520 And so, you know, reading, uh, just reading about these people, you find some of this stuff
00:32:01.180 out, but she eventually, his name was Ruben to Ruben.
00:32:05.060 There you go.
00:32:05.500 Ruben, he had a regular ass name.
00:32:07.060 Ruben was Ruben.
00:32:08.160 That's what she named.
00:32:08.840 Sorry, Jules.
00:32:09.840 Yeah.
00:32:10.080 No, that's, that's interesting, man.
00:32:11.800 Yeah.
00:32:12.340 I don't know why she just named him Ruben.
00:32:14.260 I'm glad you brought that up.
00:32:14.900 That's yeah, dude.
00:32:15.820 I think your, your aunt may have created a tulpa unknowingly.
00:32:18.880 Just the thing is, no, no, it was there.
00:32:20.700 It was there before.
00:32:21.500 Okay.
00:32:22.220 It was before, like, before my mother moved in.
00:32:25.220 So like the order is, the thing is there.
00:32:27.860 My mother moves in first.
00:32:30.000 She sees Ruben, doesn't name it, tries to like not acknowledge it.
00:32:33.840 As a matter of fact, my cousin Andre, he was at Brogrove.
00:32:36.620 His mother and his father lived there after.
00:32:39.480 His mother saw it too.
00:32:41.440 Never mentioned until years and years later when my next aunt moved in and she's just talking
00:32:47.420 to this thing, calling it Ruben and I get out.
00:32:51.680 It's weird.
00:32:52.120 So it was there way before somebody put it there or they thought it was a ghost, but I'm
00:32:56.880 not so sure about ghosts anymore.
00:32:58.380 Like the spirits of human beings kind of like being left over.
00:33:01.200 I'm thinking more what you're talking about, but somebody might've just put this thing in
00:33:06.100 the house because this house is haunted dog.
00:33:07.740 It was haunted before.
00:33:09.100 I'm pretty sure there's a portal in a certain doorway that goes to basement because I've seen
00:33:14.680 shit come out of it.
00:33:16.260 Yeah.
00:33:16.660 You know, like the idea that there's like a little girl who died in this place, right?
00:33:21.380 So let's say some spirit can at least plant that thought in you to some degree.
00:33:28.140 It can nudge you.
00:33:29.180 So you're some asshole ghost hunter.
00:33:30.860 You're walking around and you go, I'm picking up on the, what does he say?
00:33:34.800 Hold on.
00:33:35.440 Ruben sandwiches ain't bad, but your aunt named a demon after a Jew coincidence.
00:33:39.760 I think not high level noticers, high level notices.
00:33:43.980 But you're some asshole ghost hunter, right?
00:33:46.200 And this thing has given you the impression.
00:33:47.820 All it's got to do is just say like, it's got to make you feel even for a brief moment.
00:33:52.900 If you're sensitive to this sort of thing, little girl.
00:33:55.900 Now, all of a sudden you're in your mind and you're going, I think it's the spirit of a
00:34:00.280 little girl.
00:34:00.720 Did you just give that thing consent, a scaffolding that it's now allowed to build on?
00:34:04.980 You know what I mean?
00:34:05.660 Because they can't create.
00:34:07.280 We're the ones who create.
00:34:08.680 Now you're using the word, right?
00:34:10.440 You're verbalizing this out loud.
00:34:12.020 You're saying a little girl died here.
00:34:14.440 That's what I'm feeling.
00:34:15.360 And this thing's like, gotcha, bitch.
00:34:16.720 Thanks for the fucking skeleton on which to build my, my, you know, my spiritual creature,
00:34:22.180 whatever this is.
00:34:22.900 That's what I, I don't know.
00:34:24.440 Maybe, maybe.
00:34:25.060 No, no.
00:34:25.680 You're, you're, you're a hundred percent hitting on something, man.
00:34:28.120 That's fucking crazy.
00:34:29.340 Cause I just pulled that straight out of my ass.
00:34:31.420 Well, I, I definitely think that has something to do with it.
00:34:34.680 You have ghosts, apparitions, specters.
00:34:37.580 When, when you get into, uh, some of the soup, like deeper supernatural stuff, uh, that ties
00:34:42.560 into the occult, there's like these kind of different types of ghosts.
00:34:47.620 I'm still kind of reading about it.
00:34:49.900 Um, but it's, it's almost as if some of these ghosts, uh, I don't know, man.
00:34:56.480 Uh, yeah.
00:34:58.120 Maybe some type of, uh, energy that we leave behind.
00:35:02.880 Have y'all ever thought about that?
00:35:04.720 Yeah.
00:35:05.560 I think that physical objects can, so, so if, if everything, if all emotion, let's say
00:35:13.620 is energy and frequency, um, and you have a high emotional moment, like the death or,
00:35:21.580 or, or a murder, let's say a murder, for example, right?
00:35:24.440 You're spilling out into these physical objects, immense emotional energy.
00:35:31.100 And that energy probably has some effect.
00:35:33.540 It interacts with, with physical objects to what extent.
00:35:37.300 I don't know, because we can't measure it yet, or we don't, we lack the technology to
00:35:40.980 do so.
00:35:41.380 But assuming that that energy, which we have proven exists, right?
00:35:45.360 If you look at speaking positive or negative affirmations to water, that obviously has
00:35:49.540 an effect on the water.
00:35:50.380 When it freezes, it's got different crystalline structures, organized structures for positivity,
00:35:56.740 chaotic structure for negativity.
00:35:58.240 So if it affects water, it probably has some effect on physical objects.
00:36:03.280 If it's that powerful, that energy, and it's spilling all over the walls of a building,
00:36:08.880 do the walls retain that in any way, shape or form?
00:36:12.620 And then what happens from there?
00:36:14.840 Can that energy continue to exist?
00:36:16.800 Is it locked in?
00:36:17.920 You know, these are things that I think are probably pretty reasonable questions to ask
00:36:21.680 if you're dealing with energy and frequency and things of that nature.
00:36:25.200 Well, I mean, there's biblical precedent, and there's also kind of things that we know
00:36:30.700 about.
00:36:31.160 So when Cain killed Abel, I think it says that the ground opened up and swallowed the blood
00:36:37.100 of your brother.
00:36:37.740 It tells you don't put blood on the ground, like as if it's like an elemental that will
00:36:44.680 feed on this.
00:36:46.160 Then you think about places like Gettysburg, and you're like, you know, people say it feels
00:36:50.620 weird there.
00:36:51.400 There's like, it's haunted.
00:36:52.120 It's like, well, there's a ton of blood that's spilled there of a lot of, there's like, and
00:36:56.040 it's bad.
00:36:56.720 Is there memories stored in this blood that can like manifest?
00:37:00.680 Yeah, man.
00:37:01.480 And then I think you guys are definitely touching on something.
00:37:03.620 Even in Israel, like we had Andrew Meyer, a Jew, we had him on and he was, he goes,
00:37:10.340 when you're a Jew, I'm just going to be up front with the people.
00:37:14.040 He's a Jew.
00:37:14.600 No, he's cool.
00:37:15.920 We were there.
00:37:16.760 He was telling us when you go to-
00:37:18.120 Yeah, he's the guy that made Alex Jones' 2D side-scroller video game, which is awesome.
00:37:24.940 Cool dude.
00:37:25.480 Cool dude.
00:37:25.980 Knows a lot.
00:37:26.560 He's going to, we're going to bring him back on.
00:37:28.000 I asked him to talk about Solomon.
00:37:30.120 So he's like, oh, you want to know about the demons?
00:37:31.820 I was like, I want to know about all of the stuff.
00:37:33.460 I want you to, so whatever.
00:37:34.780 We have to get circumcised, but it will work.
00:37:36.880 Yeah, it's not going to happen.
00:37:38.180 So he says, when you go to Israel and you go to the wall, he's like, I don't care who you
00:37:42.800 are.
00:37:42.980 He's like, you feel it.
00:37:43.840 There's something there.
00:37:44.560 And it's like, yeah, people go there, they hump the wall, they fucking know all this
00:37:48.440 stuff.
00:37:48.800 And it might not, I don't know how I'd feel, but-
00:37:51.120 What do you think that humping is doing, Top?
00:37:52.640 It's creating energy.
00:37:54.160 It's creating energy.
00:37:55.280 But also there was like a sack, there was a sack of Jerusalem.
00:37:57.940 You know, Jesus said, not one of these stones will be left on another.
00:38:00.640 There's people, there's bloodshed, major bloodshed going on there.
00:38:04.140 That's a huge city.
00:38:05.820 There's millions of people that were in there.
00:38:07.700 And, you know, I'm sure that that trauma stays there.
00:38:10.000 Also, when you're talking about Israel, you're like, why are they fighting over it?
00:38:13.360 And, you know, some people go, well, Israel's the chosen place and the people and the Jews
00:38:19.120 and all this shit.
00:38:20.220 I'm like, how about the son of God?
00:38:21.440 He was killed right there.
00:38:23.340 His blood was shed on that ground.
00:38:25.660 What does that do to a place?
00:38:27.140 His blood was shed on Golgotha, the hill of the skull, and swallowed up in that ground.
00:38:32.260 What does that do?
00:38:33.640 Right.
00:38:33.880 I don't know, but that's significant.
00:38:35.280 So, yeah, it transmutes places.
00:38:38.040 It opens up portals or perhaps makes them thinner for these things to come through.
00:38:44.020 And that's what I think goes on.
00:38:45.440 Absolutely.
00:38:46.020 It's a big part of blood.
00:38:48.980 Blood magic is really what it is, right?
00:38:51.620 I mean, yeah, it's the same thing when you go to Mecca with the cube.
00:38:57.400 You know, you had these people circling around this cube over and over.
00:39:05.400 It's whipping up this energy.
00:39:07.800 Now, what kind of energy?
00:39:09.200 I'm not so sure.
00:39:11.480 I've never partook in any of that kind of stuff.
00:39:14.760 But, I mean, I don't know.
00:39:19.140 The symbolism is there.
00:39:20.720 I mean, you don't just—I think there's a reason you're kissing a meteorite, right?
00:39:25.160 I mean, I don't know the lore behind that, but—
00:39:29.020 Well, let me give you something that I've been kicking around, but, you know, I'm retarded.
00:39:34.400 So, with this idea of, like, frequency and energy, sometimes you look at these rituals and ceremonies that the elite are doing.
00:39:43.960 And I've become very comfortable with this idea that God has used certain elements and systems to create the realm that we inhabit.
00:39:55.120 And there are ways, if you understand the fundamental building blocks of those systems, in which you can bend it a bit.
00:40:03.100 And I think that's what they're constantly trying to do.
00:40:05.040 So, now, if you look at water or liquid in general as a great conductor of energy, then it stands to reason so would be blood.
00:40:15.900 Blood would be a great conductor of energy.
00:40:18.080 And blood maybe even being more significant because it's such a—it carries within it life force, right?
00:40:24.160 Right. So, there's also this observation of the realm that we inhabit that it seems geometry plays a crucial role in building up this place to the extent that people—
00:40:37.640 Also, our blood has a connection with the elementals as well as the water in our body, too.
00:40:43.120 Right. So, it's much more dynamic than water. In other words, we could say it that way, right?
00:40:48.220 And then you have this whole field of study, sacred geometry, where it's like people are—and you're also getting this from quantum physicists, in a sense, where geometry and—it's basically numbers taking shape in a geometrical fashion, right?
00:41:04.820 I mean, that sounds retarded. It sounds almost profound, but totally retarded.
00:41:08.000 So, you have quantum physicists who have deduced that numbers are the backdrop to everything.
00:41:14.720 You have sacred geometry studiers who go, well, it's geometry, but huge overlap there, right?
00:41:20.200 And then you look at these rituals, and what do they always involve?
00:41:23.520 They involve blood, the spilling of this life force, in a highly traumatic, energetically charged circumstance, right, where you're sacrificing something.
00:41:33.940 So, the energy, the emotional energy that's pouring off of that something is huge.
00:41:38.460 You have the chanting, right, which creates a resonance, a frequency element, and if you look around, it's like everything is fucking frequency.
00:41:47.140 You have a geometrical shape on the ground as well, and then you have a certain, you know, number of participants.
00:41:53.220 It's a very important number.
00:41:54.540 It's like they are using all of those elements that we just talked about—energy, frequency, geometry, numerology—and they are mashing it all together in one moment, trying to bend the building blocks of this realm.
00:42:09.020 And I think that you could even see that in Jesus Christ, right?
00:42:12.920 Because if you look at what supposedly makes the most apt sacrifice for a ritual, the more innocent, the better.
00:42:21.300 Jesus Christ lives a perfect life, but it seems like what God does in that moment is he nails it.
00:42:27.060 He knows exactly how to bend the rules of the realm that he created.
00:42:32.300 And so, we have perfect innocence in Jesus Christ.
00:42:36.360 It's the perfect sacrifice.
00:42:37.820 It's the perfect ritual.
00:42:39.640 You know, it's not like these guys, the bad guys, have invented ritual and ceremony.
00:42:42.920 They can't create the only invert.
00:42:44.560 They're just bending God's rules, God's elements, God's building blocks for the realm that he created, but he just did it a lot better.
00:42:54.560 Well, yeah, I mean, it was a ritual in a way.
00:42:57.980 You know, folks hear the word ritual and they automatically think, you know, altar, sacrifice, child, dagger, you know, all this stuff.
00:43:06.580 And it's like, no, we partake in rituals every day.
00:43:09.180 You know, prayer is a ritual and would also be considered white magic.
00:43:15.120 Anything that's countering any form of black magic would be considered white magic.
00:43:20.880 So, prayer would be considered white magic.
00:43:22.880 And that's just, you know, generally speaking in occultic terms.
00:43:29.140 But, yeah, man, no, this stuff all ties together.
00:43:34.280 And what you're talking about, about like a certain energy of a place, like especially a place that has, you know, that you said has had a lot of bloodshed or a lot of things have happened there.
00:43:45.840 Um, it's something known as a genius Loki.
00:43:50.660 And I've been looking into this lately.
00:43:52.800 It's the spirit of the place is what it means.
00:43:55.920 It's what it's translated to Latin.
00:43:58.120 And the, uh, I would look at this as a genius Loki.
00:44:01.920 Yeah.
00:44:02.780 Yeah.
00:44:02.980 A genius Loki.
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00:44:46.420 So, so a genius Loki, explain that to, to someone who is a retarded, uh, David.
00:44:52.940 All right.
00:44:54.860 Retarded David.
00:44:55.800 It's like, it's like, uh, I mean, do you have to say it twice?
00:44:59.600 It's a redundancy.
00:45:00.760 I know.
00:45:01.160 The spirit of the place, which I would interpret maybe as like a happy place or something.
00:45:07.060 Just speaking, like you said, and just layman's terms, uh, kind of like the imaginary friend
00:45:13.380 would be a tulpa, but this would, could be brought about.
00:45:19.120 Um, let's say there, there's an energy of a certain place, uh, that you've created, right?
00:45:26.060 Your home or, um, I don't know if you own a business or something.
00:45:32.460 But, uh, the, the fact that you can create a G, a genius or a guardian to look after this
00:45:41.800 place.
00:45:42.840 And it's kind of like an aura in, in a way it, it sounds weird, but these can be manifested
00:45:49.640 apparently.
00:45:51.340 Interesting.
00:45:52.280 I have the same way thought forms can.
00:45:54.040 It's just like, instead of a thing, it's a place.
00:45:57.180 The thought form is a place.
00:46:00.000 So it could be like a positive thing though.
00:46:02.700 Like you're saying, right?
00:46:03.320 Like if you build something that's beautiful, like you build a family for your home and there's
00:46:07.160 love and there's joy, um, in the process, there's dedication and positivity, then you
00:46:13.000 could feasibly create something that's very positive.
00:46:15.600 Yeah.
00:46:16.060 Yeah.
00:46:16.260 And, uh, and that goes to say like this guardian and I, I've briefly kind of read about it,
00:46:21.620 but this, this, this guardian that you create along with this place to kind of, uh,
00:46:27.180 protect against anything, uh, any non, non-physical entity that tries to invade your quote unquote
00:46:34.900 happy place.
00:46:36.640 Um, it's like, are you creating an, an angel, you know, like in, in a way I, you know, I
00:46:44.480 know that sounds weird and we probably couldn't create such a, uh, celestial being, but, um,
00:46:51.900 I don't know, man, just the whole concept of it just kind of made me think about it.
00:46:56.240 Well, are you creating or just calling it in, right?
00:47:00.120 Like, isn't that prayer?
00:47:01.720 Yes.
00:47:02.220 Yes.
00:47:02.600 That's, that's also what I was going to say could, could be happening as well.
00:47:06.520 Um, because you know, when, when you look into magic, demons can be created multiple ways.
00:47:13.600 Uh, there's multiple forms of black magic.
00:47:16.280 Uh, but like the Crowley, like, did he create, um, I was, you know what I mean?
00:47:24.280 Uh, or did this entity exist as some other name long ago?
00:47:30.880 Right.
00:47:31.720 Um, I don't know, just some, some questions that I've been asking lately that I've been
00:47:36.760 trying to get into.
00:47:37.700 Um, well, we've seen this idea that, um, the angels were, I guess, I suppose, I don't
00:47:45.140 know if it's all of them or some of them had the ability to shapeshift.
00:47:48.340 And then I guess you could ask yourself, are they limited to shifting into what is only
00:47:56.060 perceivable in the natural world or God, Jesus, man.
00:48:00.260 Or can they shift into something like that?
00:48:02.000 You know what I mean?
00:48:02.960 Like if that, I wonder, so, so, um, you know, you have the idea of, let's say Zeus, for example,
00:48:10.120 who I believe is a fallen, he takes the form of a goose, uh, but also an eagle, but in the
00:48:16.180 form of a goose, he actually, uh, impregnates a woman and she gives birth to, uh, uh, what
00:48:21.440 Perseus, Perseus, right?
00:48:23.160 He's very, very rapey, super rapey.
00:48:25.840 Oh yeah.
00:48:26.140 Especially rapey.
00:48:27.480 That's all he does is just like, Oh, these women look hot.
00:48:32.000 Like they look attractive.
00:48:33.520 I'm going to impregnate them.
00:48:35.220 Right.
00:48:35.380 And that's what they do.
00:48:36.160 Yeah.
00:48:36.580 Right.
00:48:37.360 So are there abilities to shapeshift limited to geese and snakes and things like that?
00:48:44.200 Or, um, can they take the form of something that is, I wouldn't say new because I don't
00:48:51.080 know if we're doing any new shit, but could they take the form of something that you think
00:48:56.880 you've conjured up in your own mind?
00:49:00.260 Yeah, absolutely.
00:49:02.000 Absolutely.
00:49:02.720 If that thought form is powerful enough, like, like what we were talking about earlier,
00:49:08.280 more on a, uh, mass conscious scale, like multiple people thinking of the same thing
00:49:14.440 and kind of, uh, you know, easier to create.
00:49:19.180 And that goes to like, uh, you know, you have your football teams with their, uh, you know,
00:49:25.780 with their mascots, like that mascot probably exists somewhere in the ether as a non-physical
00:49:33.700 entity.
00:49:34.180 You have your captain crunch and all those little guys from the cereal boxes.
00:49:39.320 You have like these, like, and to back to what you were saying, yes, I think these, these
00:49:45.560 forms can be, uh, I guess you, for a better word, uh, possessed and used to, uh, you know,
00:49:59.160 that kind of brings me back to what I said at the top of the show where you have these instances of
00:50:04.780 children seeing like their favorite toy or something like that, like standing at the foot
00:50:10.840 of their bed or in the corner.
00:50:11.820 It also makes me wonder about sort of the hat man because the hat man is similar to the slender
00:50:22.240 man in that it's not like there is, um, not as far as I've seen tremendous amounts of deep
00:50:31.160 ancient lore about him.
00:50:34.060 He, he seems there was a time where, where if you were reading about it, they would dismiss
00:50:38.780 the hat man as something that only existed because Western culture had given us that visage
00:50:47.100 of the duster coat and the, the brimmed hat.
00:50:51.320 Right.
00:50:52.280 But then what ended up happening is I found instances of the hat man existing in like, let's
00:50:58.040 say Japanese culture, for example.
00:50:59.720 Uh, one of the examples I always give is top.
00:51:02.980 I don't know if you could pull this up, but if you type in PlayStation one dream hat man,
00:51:08.780 hat man, right?
00:51:09.980 PS one dream hat man.
00:51:11.580 You might find this creepy.
00:51:12.760 Um, and effectively it's a dude who is from Japan.
00:51:17.600 He sets out to create a different type of video game experience.
00:51:20.020 That's nonlinear.
00:51:21.020 That doesn't have an objective.
00:51:22.380 It's not an objective based thing.
00:51:24.640 Uh, I think it actually is that.
00:51:26.780 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:28.160 So, um, and what ends up happening is he decides that he's going to make these dreamscapes and
00:51:35.020 that they're going to be based off of his own dream.
00:51:36.800 Um, so they're very jarring and it's hard to, you know, kind of figure out the, the path
00:51:42.380 of it.
00:51:42.880 Um, it, but it does behave very much like a dream.
00:51:45.000 Like it's all random.
00:51:45.840 And to get to the next sequence, you've got to do something really random, like touch a
00:51:49.400 painting or some weird shit like that, but it's nonlinear.
00:51:52.060 But one of the things is this hat man.
00:51:55.540 I don't know.
00:51:55.820 You might actually see it popping up for the viewers who are watching.
00:51:58.680 I see it.
00:51:59.240 Um, yeah.
00:52:00.080 So, so let me see.
00:52:02.020 It's not that one.
00:52:03.020 I do want to find the image.
00:52:04.040 Keep scrolling top.
00:52:05.340 Uh, definitely not that one.
00:52:06.860 Not that one either.
00:52:07.980 I don't know.
00:52:08.360 I think it was, it was definitely that first one, but I wish they would have shown us,
00:52:12.120 but yeah, it's, it's a, it's a dream emulator more or less.
00:52:15.920 And he just drops the hat, but that one right there, you saw that with that, the back, that,
00:52:20.100 that image right there with this guy that keeps showing us his face.
00:52:22.860 And I wish he wouldn't, um, but that was a game for years.
00:52:27.300 There it is.
00:52:27.840 There it is.
00:52:28.320 That image, right.
00:52:30.120 Is it's a man in a duster coat with this, this brimmed hat.
00:52:33.540 And, uh, and basically he just tells you like, oh yeah, that's just some dude that I see
00:52:37.940 in my dreams sometimes.
00:52:38.920 And so it's this example where it's outside of Western culture.
00:52:41.620 It's in Japanese culture.
00:52:43.220 And if you look at, um, Freddy Krueger, Wes Craven was inspired to design his hat wearing
00:52:51.620 nightmare creature after, uh, one of his buddy's stories.
00:52:55.100 He grew up with a kid, I guess, who was telling him, you know, these horrific stories about
00:52:59.280 this man with a brim cap that would come for him in his nightmares.
00:53:02.600 So much like Slenderman enters kind of pop culture, even the hat man enters pop culture
00:53:10.420 in that way.
00:53:11.540 And so I, I don't know what to make of him.
00:53:14.980 I talked to somebody once named, um, uh, Heidi Braun, I believe her name was.
00:53:19.680 And she claimed to, to know, um, the identity of the hat man.
00:53:23.980 And more or less what she said was that hat man is the number one guy is like Satan, the
00:53:28.920 adversary, the devil.
00:53:31.360 And having the information that I have now, I'm not so sure that that really vibes with
00:53:36.720 me, but there's something about him.
00:53:39.080 He seems more significant than these other characters.
00:53:41.600 And, but he's still dressed like this kind of Western visage of a man in a duster coat,
00:53:49.260 but he feels to me very similar to, to Slenderman.
00:53:52.680 He, he feels to me like maybe once upon a time, somebody did grab onto those elements, the hat,
00:54:01.680 the duster coat, the, the shadow, maybe even sometimes the red eyes and something latched
00:54:06.620 onto that.
00:54:07.320 And then that's just, it's jam now for, for years and years and years.
00:54:11.840 That's it's, it's visage.
00:54:13.620 Yeah, dude.
00:54:14.660 Um, I mean, it's, it's the same thing with, uh, this kind of image that we see that the
00:54:22.880 church kind of brought about of the devil, this red devil with horns, a tail, which is
00:54:29.680 all esoteric symbolism, the horns, the tail, all that stuff goes into deeper symbolism.
00:54:35.140 Right.
00:54:36.140 Um, but I mean, did it create this entity in, uh, cause then, you know, what was that
00:54:44.360 show?
00:54:44.740 A cow and chicken had the little red devil guy in it.
00:54:47.940 Yeah.
00:54:48.140 With the butt cheeks, they always gave them, uh, yeah, yeah.
00:54:50.880 The guy with the big red butt.
00:54:52.220 I think that was his name.
00:54:53.420 Um, and, uh, same, same thing with Baphomet.
00:54:56.440 Like it was drawn up, you know, it was talked about probably in some cases worshiped.
00:55:02.240 Like that thing exists now.
00:55:04.320 Like there's been sightings of goat men or there's been, you know, uh, that it could
00:55:09.220 exist as a non-physical entity.
00:55:12.080 Um, yeah, it could be the same situation with all these characters that, that we see.
00:55:18.640 Like it's, it's crazy.
00:55:20.640 Go ahead.
00:55:21.220 I'm thinking about when Jesus tells Judas, uh, that, uh, it says like the spirit of Satan
00:55:27.400 entered him and he recognized it and he says, you belong to him now.
00:55:30.160 And he goes, who's him?
00:55:31.220 And he goes, not God.
00:55:33.100 Like that.
00:55:34.220 I'm so like, what does that mean?
00:55:35.520 Like, what did, what do you see?
00:55:37.260 What is, who is him now?
00:55:39.080 Like, how did, how did you, how is that so easily recognized?
00:55:42.620 I guess Jesus, Jesus recognized it, but what does that look like to us?
00:55:46.120 Is it the hat man or is that something else, you know?
00:55:48.640 Right.
00:55:49.180 Was it something that they thought up back in antiquity that doesn't exist anymore?
00:55:54.120 Because egregores can be destroyed too.
00:55:57.240 You know, uh, especially if someone makes a lot of idols of it or something and those
00:56:02.580 idols are then kind of destroyed.
00:56:04.400 That's how these civilizations fall.
00:56:06.860 The egregore is first destroyed.
00:56:08.820 And then like in Rome, you know, they had the eagle and all that.
00:56:12.900 And like the destruction of Rome, you know, they were doing away with the old gods and
00:56:18.120 they were, uh, you know, kind of destroying the city, right?
00:56:23.640 Destroying the architecture of the city and all the statues, all the idols.
00:56:28.020 And that along with the worship of these gods, these, these, you know, lesser deities, um,
00:56:36.480 it destroys this idea of this larger egregore, um, in Sumeria, it's, it's that, uh, composite
00:56:45.180 creature.
00:56:45.960 It's like a fucking guy with wings and a, and the body of like a lion or something.
00:56:51.240 Yeah.
00:56:51.740 You know what I mean?
00:56:52.720 I think it's Babylon.
00:56:55.460 My son made me this.
00:56:57.060 It's like, what the fuck?
00:56:58.720 It's something like that.
00:57:00.020 Right.
00:57:00.360 Yeah, dude.
00:57:01.140 That could be turned into an egregore top.
00:57:02.980 You can make your own, uh, that looks like the Jaguar from, um, Elena of Avalor.
00:57:11.480 Yeah.
00:57:11.840 I don't know.
00:57:12.260 I, he, he likes to make these, uh, sculptures and he was like, Hey, look at this one.
00:57:15.620 I was like, that's fucking cool.
00:57:16.560 But like, why does it have wings?
00:57:18.480 He's like, I don't know.
00:57:19.360 Cause it's the thing from Elena of Avalor.
00:57:21.500 I'm telling you, go type in that show.
00:57:22.980 Same thing with that.
00:57:23.860 Sophia, the first show, right?
00:57:25.680 Sophia, the first.
00:57:26.880 If you get into Gnosticism, the first, you know, conscious form was Sophia or whatever.
00:57:34.200 Have y'all ever heard of that show?
00:57:35.520 I'm, yeah, yeah.
00:57:36.140 I'm looking at it right now.
00:57:36.960 Elena of Avalor.
00:57:38.340 Holy shit.
00:57:38.880 Oh my God.
00:57:39.160 Yeah.
00:57:39.320 That giant sculpture.
00:57:40.780 What the hell, dude?
00:57:41.980 Do you, do you see the, do you see the flying Jaguar top?
00:57:45.120 Yeah.
00:57:45.380 Yeah.
00:57:45.740 Yeah.
00:57:46.440 I've never seen this thing before.
00:57:47.760 I'm looking at it right now.
00:57:48.260 He's up there.
00:57:49.380 It's a, it's a griffin.
00:57:50.860 Yeah.
00:57:51.360 Basically a griffin just in a different culture.
00:57:53.440 I forgot.
00:57:53.680 That's the name of my dog, dude.
00:57:54.820 The road that I live off of is a griffin.
00:57:58.120 It's as weird as he.
00:57:59.160 But get out of this top and find the big statue.
00:58:02.240 There's a big statue.
00:58:03.360 If you just type in winged Jaguar and it's a alarm.
00:58:07.780 Like a, like, like a real statue.
00:58:09.920 Yeah, dude.
00:58:10.540 It's, it's massive.
00:58:12.060 Um, kind of dope looking.
00:58:14.100 Oh, this thing.
00:58:15.040 It looks like, uh, I mean, uh, they're in, they're in Coco as well.
00:58:18.980 The, uh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:58:20.320 It's not, yeah, they are in Coco.
00:58:21.440 You're right about that.
00:58:22.480 I forgot what they called them.
00:58:23.360 I keep forgetting where they go in Coco.
00:58:26.720 Like the underworld that, that they go to.
00:58:29.220 It's, it's like, it's like the real underworld that they believe in.
00:58:31.940 I'm, I'm pretty sure.
00:58:33.260 Yeah.
00:58:33.720 Yeah, man.
00:58:34.220 I haven't watched that movie in a long time.
00:58:35.740 I had Thomas on to talk about, uh, fucking Disney a few, few weeks back.
00:58:40.140 Um, dude, I love, I love that movie Coco.
00:58:43.160 It just speaks to my, uh, fucking the spick.
00:58:45.960 Hold that up.
00:58:46.840 The one that I just, uh.
00:58:48.620 Of course you would.
00:58:49.500 I mean.
00:58:50.500 Sorry.
00:58:50.900 Here we go.
00:58:51.120 Hold the one up on my screen.
00:58:52.060 It's like me with that Brave movie.
00:58:53.680 Cause I'm Irish.
00:58:54.660 Like, I love that Brave movie, man.
00:58:56.580 I'm not Mexican, but it's just something about it.
00:58:58.540 I'm like, I do like it.
00:59:00.140 Uh, yeah, that thing was crazy.
00:59:01.700 So this is, uh, at the United Nations headquarters.
00:59:04.300 Of course it was.
00:59:06.140 Wow.
00:59:06.660 That would be, that could exist in another realm.
00:59:09.680 Like they could have created that thing.
00:59:11.920 Well, there's a, there's another movie that my kids like.
00:59:14.660 It's on Netflix.
00:59:15.160 It's called, uh, to the, something to the moon or something like that.
00:59:19.020 The girl, the girl that sings in, uh, Hamilton.
00:59:21.880 She's like the main, she's a luminary.
00:59:24.160 She plays the character of the moon.
00:59:25.620 And when this little girl is getting to the moon, these, uh,
00:59:30.680 Griffins, they're just winged lions.
00:59:33.560 There's two or three of them.
00:59:34.760 They help her guide her rocket to the, to the moon, man.
00:59:38.560 What the fuck is this called?
00:59:39.440 It's like, it's just called like to over the moon or some shit like that.
00:59:42.980 And I'm just like, I'm watching it and my kids love it.
00:59:44.960 I'm just like, there's so much esotericism in these children's movies.
00:59:49.620 Perhaps that's why he, maybe that's why he made this.
00:59:52.020 I don't know.
00:59:52.560 Yeah.
00:59:52.840 It could have been, he could have been inspired by something he saw.
00:59:55.620 I would say that.
00:59:56.060 Oh yeah.
00:59:56.280 Well, those two worlds right there are linked together.
00:59:59.360 Um, we were talking about earlier with the twin peaks and the X files.
01:00:03.320 There's actually theories.
01:00:04.840 Twin peaks is tied to the OA and a few other shows as well.
01:00:10.480 Oh dude.
01:00:10.940 The OA is insane.
01:00:12.520 Yeah, dude.
01:00:13.460 There's, uh, apparently the creators were big, big fans of twin peaks.
01:00:17.500 The guy hap in the OA and fire walk with me.
01:00:20.900 The name of the restaurant is haps.
01:00:22.580 So I don't know.
01:00:23.680 I just, I don't know.
01:00:24.460 I want to watch, uh, rewatch the OA.
01:00:26.740 Cause that was like a really wild movie or show rather.
01:00:29.740 That was a really wild show.
01:00:30.740 It stands for the original angel.
01:00:32.300 And right.
01:00:33.980 It's like, they basically discover a series of, uh, breathing techniques and symbols that
01:00:40.860 they can do with their movements that they do.
01:00:42.780 Yeah.
01:00:42.880 And movements that will shift a timeline for them more or less.
01:00:46.140 Or bring someone back to life.
01:00:47.840 Like do all these things.
01:00:49.600 Yeah.
01:00:49.880 You can basically like play God, right?
01:00:52.900 Yes.
01:00:53.360 Yeah.
01:00:53.600 Very interesting.
01:00:54.440 I wonder too.
01:00:55.320 You had really cringe shit happen in like IRL people doing the movements on Tik TOK.
01:01:00.240 That's so gay.
01:01:01.420 That's so gay.
01:01:02.520 That's so gay.
01:01:03.460 But honestly.
01:01:04.420 Sorry, wait, wait, wait.
01:01:05.120 What is the Elena of Avalor?
01:01:07.080 What is, what is the lore behind that?
01:01:08.260 Because he's never seen that.
01:01:09.800 And why would you give it like these blue purple wings?
01:01:12.600 Cause now those other guys, I could see him having wings, but this one is almost like a one
01:01:16.880 to one.
01:01:17.440 It's got spots.
01:01:18.120 He's not seeing shit in his dreams, homie.
01:01:19.920 Yeah.
01:01:20.160 Not good.
01:01:20.780 Did you see one of the Jaguars?
01:01:23.480 What was that?
01:01:24.720 The Jaguar.
01:01:26.340 The Jaguar.
01:01:27.620 In Spanish?
01:01:28.880 I don't know.
01:01:29.180 Oh, I don't know how to say that.
01:01:30.400 I think it's a Jaguar.
01:01:32.160 It'll be like a Jaguar.
01:01:33.740 A Jaguar.
01:01:34.580 That's how he said it.
01:01:35.240 A Jaguar.
01:01:35.840 I thought it was like a Jaguar.
01:01:39.780 Well, this is what I'm wondering.
01:01:41.760 Going back to this, like, if you create an image, you can give this thing a scaffolding
01:01:48.020 upon which, especially if you flesh it out enough, to inhabit it.
01:01:52.300 And then you look at, like, Exodus 24, where it says, thou shalt not make unto thee any
01:01:58.040 graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above or that is in earth beneath
01:02:03.680 or that is in the water under the earth.
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01:03:24.400 And it's like, you know, even in Islam, there's like this real crazy idea that you're not supposed
01:03:42.680 to make any images of, you know, their God.
01:03:45.860 And then there becomes a real issue in, not a real issue, but within Christianity, it's
01:03:52.480 like, it's very hard to perceive God, you can only perceive them from the back, right?
01:03:55.820 Or this or that.
01:03:56.980 And it's like, I'm thinking about how that applies to, if you see it and you recreate
01:04:03.220 it, can then something else take its form that isn't real?
01:04:08.160 And then the other thing is too, like, what is sight?
01:04:11.860 What is the ability to see?
01:04:13.540 Because we get hung up on that idea sometimes that like, God, well, I'm gonna, I wish it
01:04:20.240 was removed from me, the ability to see, don't do that anymore, dude.
01:04:24.400 That's very upset.
01:04:25.220 We have another show to do after this.
01:04:26.940 I'm feeling nauseous.
01:04:29.080 But, but so you think about the sigil of Lucifer and how it aligns so closely to the diagram
01:04:38.500 of the visual cortex of a human being.
01:04:42.060 And I don't know, it's like, to me, I feel like there's some sort of connection there.
01:04:46.260 If you can see it, and you can recreate it, then some spiritual entity can inhabit it.
01:04:52.420 And then the sigil of Lucifer seems to be a symbol for the visual cortex of a human being.
01:05:00.100 I don't know what the hell is going on there.
01:05:02.320 Like, look at that, right?
01:05:03.420 That's the visual cortex.
01:05:04.500 And that is the sigil of Lucifer.
01:05:06.420 Oh, that's, that's the nine angles symbol, isn't it?
01:05:09.380 Yeah.
01:05:10.300 So, so there's something that like, I'm retarded.
01:05:13.180 It's going right over my head, but it feels like it's right there.
01:05:16.300 It's like human beings' ability to see a thing.
01:05:20.320 Then what?
01:05:20.900 What if we create it, manifest it, put it in clay, put it on a sculpture, draw it on paper?
01:05:26.480 Well, seeing it, right?
01:05:28.380 When you see it out in front of you, it's also seeing it in your mind.
01:05:33.180 Yes.
01:05:33.580 So that's what I, when I was kind of referring to the, the, the mental plane being the highest
01:05:38.680 of all, uh, it really is true.
01:05:41.720 Like mind over matter is, is definitely real.
01:05:46.280 Well, that's why it's like in every case, you know, blessed are those who believe without
01:05:50.260 seeing, you know, um, right.
01:05:52.680 You don't need to use this, uh, this medium.
01:05:55.680 It's almost like this picture almost feels to me like, uh, they're describing the matrix.
01:06:01.280 Absolutely, absolutely, dude.
01:06:04.500 Nick from Occult Rejects, he's, he's talked about this a bunch, uh, with, with the eyes
01:06:09.460 and how it's our ability to see a whole lot more than we know.
01:06:13.560 Um, and it's like the, uh, you know, the eyes are the window to the soul, right?
01:06:20.820 Hmm.
01:06:21.400 But, uh, my, my, my wife, dude, pretty clairvoyant, but she gives it all to Christ.
01:06:27.740 You know, she calls it a seeing in the spirit base.
01:06:31.600 Yeah.
01:06:32.360 Yeah.
01:06:32.820 And, and so, um, and I mean, dude, it's, it's, there's, there's stuff that she'll predict
01:06:39.560 or stuff that will just, that will come to her.
01:06:41.780 And then like a week later it happens in someone else's life who we know, but we're not like
01:06:46.820 close to, it's just real weird stuff.
01:06:49.240 And it's been happening for a while now.
01:06:50.700 So, uh, yeah, she gives it all to God, dude.
01:06:53.460 Um, well, Christ, you know, like this is, uh, I mean, it's just what she's come to realize
01:07:00.700 in the past year, you know, that she has this, that I think a lot of people would have this
01:07:06.200 clear, this kind of clear, clairvoyancy if they were to, uh, have a spiritual relationship
01:07:11.960 with the Holy spirit, but it's not for everybody.
01:07:14.460 Right.
01:07:14.900 Um, yeah, I mean, I mean, I, I think it, I think it can be for everybody, but we, we've
01:07:20.300 been so inundated with, um, a big spiritual mess, you know what I mean?
01:07:26.060 Like spirituality, understanding the spiritual realm has become very, very, very muddied.
01:07:31.560 And I think people of old used to, it used to be a lot more obvious, but they were still
01:07:38.100 choosing, you know, but at least they were making like a concise choice to worship another
01:07:42.520 deity because they were retarded.
01:07:43.900 Now it's like, we might be a little bit, we might be a little bit smarter in some ways
01:07:50.060 than, than the ancients.
01:07:51.700 It's a different type of intelligence.
01:07:53.820 Um, but in a way, dude, when, when you do something and you're giving what you would
01:07:57.920 call your worship to someone or something, some entity, you know, you're in your gut that
01:08:05.320 you're doing wrong.
01:08:06.280 Yeah.
01:08:06.720 You know, you don't want to admit it.
01:08:09.280 Now, when you can come in and you can admit it and ask for forgiveness and talk about it,
01:08:13.760 you know, you know, you've grown in a way, right.
01:08:16.320 Where you can have some, some kind of accountability towards it.
01:08:20.120 Yeah.
01:08:20.740 A lot of people are just in denial.
01:08:22.540 Right.
01:08:24.280 Yeah.
01:08:24.640 I mean, if you think about that worship and what it looks like, it's like even, even my
01:08:28.940 own son, um, what's on his wall.
01:08:31.880 He has like a poster of a super Mario, you know, he's got a poster of, but, but, but effectively
01:08:37.020 what you're making is like your own shrine.
01:08:40.060 Yeah.
01:08:40.460 You know what I mean?
01:08:41.000 Cause you're going to sleep in this place.
01:08:42.440 You're waking up in this place.
01:08:43.500 And this place is surrounded by these characters.
01:08:46.520 Well, if he is creating anything in his mind or he will one day destroy that.
01:08:52.460 And I mean, with you as his father, I mean, he has a pretty good head on his shoulders.
01:08:55.980 I'm sure.
01:08:56.780 So we have discussions that, um, it's actually pretty easy to point out.
01:09:01.100 So it's like with him, he'll play a game or he'll, he'll watch a show.
01:09:05.480 And who are the bad guys?
01:09:06.980 The bad guys are like demons and such.
01:09:08.580 And you go, okay, well that relatively tracks, but it's telling you that the supernatural
01:09:12.240 realm exists.
01:09:13.360 But the real kicker is that they're like, yeah, the bad guys are demons.
01:09:17.860 When I was a kid, my, one of my favorite games was devil may cry.
01:09:21.260 You're literally a Nephilim, right?
01:09:22.840 Your son is a, your, your father is, is a demon.
01:09:25.280 Your mother is a human woman.
01:09:27.620 And you're a Jew.
01:09:28.720 You're a Jew.
01:09:29.840 And this is where I go.
01:09:32.020 Just like taking long-term loans from people.
01:09:34.300 Like that's what the game is about.
01:09:35.260 Just a bunch of numbers.
01:09:36.680 Cause this is a calculator.
01:09:38.100 If you can convince them to jerk off, it's like all of your opponents, you have to get
01:09:41.760 close to them.
01:09:42.400 You got to convince them and you got to convince them it's their idea and stuff, you know?
01:09:45.640 Yeah.
01:09:46.080 Yeah.
01:09:46.240 If you can convince them, it's their idea to jerk off.
01:09:48.160 That's where you get the most points.
01:09:49.620 Um, but, but, uh, you know, you're playing these characters.
01:09:52.540 So, so what's the game doing?
01:09:53.740 It's like, dog, the spiritual realm is real.
01:09:56.380 Okay.
01:09:57.080 Demons are real.
01:09:57.940 Right.
01:09:58.340 Okay.
01:09:59.200 No discussion about God and Jesus.
01:10:02.760 So it's like, all of them will always tell you that demons are real.
01:10:06.200 They're the bad guys.
01:10:07.080 You're going to fuck them up.
01:10:07.840 You're going to listen to cool rock music.
01:10:09.260 You're going to shoot them with double guns and have a big sword and all this crazy shit.
01:10:12.440 But they're telling you that you are the God.
01:10:14.340 You.
01:10:14.940 It's through your own power that you're doing this.
01:10:17.540 That's the thing.
01:10:18.080 And that's the seed that they plant in your head.
01:10:19.920 So like when you're a kid, you know, you have these dreams of like fucking up demons,
01:10:24.240 riding a skateboard, carrying a sword, you know, fucking turn to a guitar, but it's
01:10:30.180 all through your power.
01:10:32.140 And that's like the, so they, that's, you want to talk about the deception.
01:10:35.560 Yeah.
01:10:35.920 Nine truths and one lie.
01:10:37.760 It's not even completely a lie.
01:10:39.840 It's nine truths and one omission.
01:10:42.780 And that omission is Jesus Christ.
01:10:45.200 It's God, the father.
01:10:46.320 Or they've, they've omitted that from the narrative and they're like, yeah, this is dope.
01:10:50.260 Right.
01:10:50.580 And you could do it all through your power, which is the exact opposite of, of, you know,
01:10:54.640 what we're called to do.
01:10:55.660 So, um, but he sees that because it's like, you know, why are they telling you that one
01:11:00.940 side of the coin exists, but not the other one?
01:11:03.160 Right.
01:11:04.000 You know?
01:11:04.340 And so we have those discussions.
01:11:05.580 So yeah, you can guide them through it, but you can see the trap.
01:11:07.800 It's a very alluring trap.
01:11:08.920 Isn't that a crazy, like a distance to fall for these guys?
01:11:12.600 Like it, you go from like the beginning of time where your name is out there and it's
01:11:16.860 pretty much, you've got your symbols.
01:11:19.040 You have, you have nations that are dedicated.
01:11:21.760 I guess India is still, still is like this, but like now it's to the point where we're
01:11:25.600 like, well, we have three main religions and they all worship the same God.
01:11:32.020 So they say, but like they are deviating slightly.
01:11:35.180 Like you can't even, they're, they're not even out there with their, their likeness only
01:11:39.760 in India, but India is the shithole at most streets.
01:11:42.780 Yeah.
01:11:42.960 That's the only people that you can get are telemarketers that shit in the streets and
01:11:47.040 they do it simultaneously.
01:11:47.900 And those are the ones that are willing to worship you.
01:11:49.840 That's crazy.
01:11:50.520 But the rest of the world is like, it's God and Jesus Christ.
01:11:54.660 And then the other two religions are kind of like deviating from it.
01:11:57.980 So it's like anything, but what is true, but I can know, like they're not even good enough
01:12:03.800 to get the worship themselves anymore.
01:12:05.440 Like to really be out there in the open.
01:12:07.320 And if you're a Satanist, it's kind of like people know what it's like Satanists.
01:12:10.000 You're like, I don't think so.
01:12:11.560 Like a Satanist can't run for office, but, but a person who is in, uh, you know, who's,
01:12:18.080 who's, who believes in Judaism can that's like, uh, but it's, do you see what I mean?
01:12:24.160 It's, it's just like anything, but the actual truth is like an omission rather than
01:12:28.340 they used to worship Dagon or they used to worship Molech.
01:12:31.820 They used to do it openly.
01:12:32.760 They were, they were, there were entire civilizations that were engaging in cannibalism and necromancy
01:12:37.980 and all this shit.
01:12:38.600 Now it happens, you know, behind, it was like, it used to happen behind city walls.
01:12:43.740 Now they do it.
01:12:44.200 They say we are Christians.
01:12:45.260 They do it under the Roman Catholic banner.
01:12:47.540 Shout out.
01:12:48.200 Shout out Johnny Cerucci.
01:12:49.780 Yeah.
01:12:50.100 Yeah.
01:12:50.440 Yeah.
01:12:50.660 A hundred percent.
01:12:51.280 A hundred percent.
01:12:52.080 But yeah, it's a, oh, how the, the mighty have fallen in a way, because now it's just
01:12:55.940 like, they'll get you to worship them, but they have to like, kind of pretend to be super
01:13:00.680 Mario.
01:13:01.260 Like that's, it's like, I'm fucking Fred Flintstone at your bed.
01:13:04.880 You have satanists in the highest ranks of the military.
01:13:07.080 You know, that's true.
01:13:08.020 Yeah.
01:13:08.320 Aquino, uh, you know, is up there and he's doing his damn thing, but it's like, it's a
01:13:14.040 weird thing too.
01:13:14.580 I was talking to my wife about that, how like, there's this high ranking satanists in
01:13:17.780 the military, uh, in, you know, intelligence and, um, and they're all satanists, but they're
01:13:23.160 like, right, it's, this guy's just their high priest.
01:13:25.980 Yeah.
01:13:26.440 And, but he, he, I guess that dude was like sort of out there.
01:13:29.500 I think they all are, but they use part of the church of Satan beforehand.
01:13:33.520 And he said, this is, this is some pussy shit.
01:13:36.800 They're not going hard enough.
01:13:38.140 Uh, they're not gay enough.
01:13:39.760 And so I, I'm going to go start the temple of set and, uh, you know, sacrifice to this
01:13:46.480 deity who, you know, set as an archetype or whatever.
01:13:49.940 I mean, the stories have said he's a complete piece of shit, kills his brother.
01:13:53.160 Um, kills his nephew, but, um, back to what I was going to say about the genius loci or
01:13:59.160 the Loki.
01:13:59.980 That's right.
01:14:00.560 Yeah.
01:14:00.700 Before I derail the fuck out of you, the back rooms is a good example of this.
01:14:04.920 Go on now.
01:14:07.460 Did they exist already?
01:14:09.220 Or did someone, uh, you know, create this program, uh, this place, and now it exists
01:14:18.120 somewhere because enough people played it enough people, you know, got it, watch videos of
01:14:25.860 it.
01:14:25.960 And we're like, this, this is real.
01:14:27.680 This could be real.
01:14:28.680 How many, you know, how many people have to do that before it starts to exist?
01:14:33.120 No, no, I'm trying to.
01:14:34.980 So, okay.
01:14:35.860 Uh, this is basically this concept of like a never ending maze of hallways that are kind
01:14:42.220 of resemble like a, like a hotel hallway.
01:14:45.180 Um, but it's, it's like this idea that you enter the, the background of reality and it's
01:14:52.360 just never ending maze.
01:14:54.260 The upside down.
01:14:55.140 Right.
01:14:55.660 More or less.
01:14:56.100 But, but it's inhabited by, by creatures, you know, which a lot of them are Shrek weird.
01:15:01.880 Um, a lot of them are Shrek.
01:15:04.540 That's a lot of them are Shrek.
01:15:06.200 And, um, and yeah, and, and, but it's like a yellow kind of a hallway.
01:15:10.940 It looks like it could be the hallway of a, of a hotel.
01:15:14.180 And the objective is never ending maze.
01:15:17.380 Try to figure out your way to the end of it.
01:15:18.880 Also don't get eaten by Shrek or one of the many fucking Slender Man often is in there
01:15:22.680 like that kind of shit.
01:15:23.540 And, uh, sounds like you're describing like the game doom, like just kind of rolling
01:15:28.580 through, huh?
01:15:30.400 Yeah.
01:15:30.600 It kind of looks like that.
01:15:31.420 But so then it enters all their games.
01:15:33.100 It enters Roblox.
01:15:34.220 It enters fucking Minecraft.
01:15:35.420 It enters like every single, that goes to say, if enough people play the new Grand Theft
01:15:39.260 Auto, is crime going to pick up, you know?
01:15:42.560 Right.
01:15:43.480 I mean, does it coincide with each other?
01:15:45.340 These, these, you know, what happens in these video games and then what happens in reality?
01:15:50.240 Like, well, that's the concept of like manifestation.
01:15:53.180 If enough people are thinking it and, and really fixated on it, and then enough people are also
01:15:59.400 geared at fleshing it out, making it look more realistic, giving it more life and more
01:16:04.600 dynamicy.
01:16:06.060 What effect does that have in reality?
01:16:07.820 And I think.
01:16:08.640 Hold on, guys.
01:16:09.520 I'm sorry.
01:16:10.360 Wait a second.
01:16:10.720 Don't do it again.
01:16:10.980 We got to check the chat.
01:16:11.900 No, no, no.
01:16:12.380 Oh, okay.
01:16:12.960 We're going to say that.
01:16:13.980 Dynamicy.
01:16:14.660 We're going to look that up.
01:16:16.160 Pause it.
01:16:16.680 I don't care.
01:16:17.220 Don't word check me live on our show.
01:16:19.600 Don't do that.
01:16:20.140 Dynamicy is a real word.
01:16:21.440 I don't think so.
01:16:22.080 It means when things are like super duper dynamic, dude.
01:16:24.220 Do you mean dynamic with two E's?
01:16:26.620 No.
01:16:27.060 No, no, no.
01:16:27.420 Like a dynamicy would be like a, like a CY at the end.
01:16:31.260 Okay.
01:16:31.680 Not dynamic.
01:16:32.340 It's a weird word, isn't it?
01:16:33.520 Sounds like the name of a young, young black woman.
01:16:38.400 Dynamicy.
01:16:38.760 This is my daughter, Dynamicy.
01:16:41.440 Getting her weave.
01:16:42.160 No, there's no such thing.
01:16:43.520 There's no such thing.
01:16:43.920 No, no, no, no, no.
01:16:45.220 Yeah, yeah.
01:16:45.760 If you give it more dynamicy, you know what I mean?
01:16:47.620 Z-Man, write it down.
01:16:48.640 Thank you.
01:16:49.160 All right.
01:16:49.340 Let's continue.
01:16:50.320 Dynamicy.
01:16:52.380 Dynamicy.
01:16:53.620 Listen to it.
01:16:54.080 Listen to it.
01:16:54.980 All right.
01:16:55.560 Don't do that to me.
01:16:56.600 Let's bring it back.
01:16:57.500 Okay.
01:16:59.060 Focus.
01:17:00.220 Focus.
01:17:00.860 So here's where I think, I don't even want to say that, like say it too loud because I
01:17:05.160 know my son is like, oh, the back rooms.
01:17:07.060 And I'm like, he's like, are they real?
01:17:08.320 I'm like, no.
01:17:08.780 Oh, so he's like, he knows about this shit.
01:17:10.580 My son does too.
01:17:11.120 Because it's in all the kids' entertainment.
01:17:13.300 But here's where I think it becomes a problem.
01:17:15.640 The dreamscape.
01:17:16.720 Is it like the hill?
01:17:17.920 Like the autistic kids with the hills?
01:17:19.800 No, no.
01:17:20.300 Maybe.
01:17:20.860 I don't know.
01:17:21.120 No, I think they're really fucking in Utah.
01:17:23.740 But when it comes to the back rooms, I think that one of the problems is because of the
01:17:29.240 maze nature and the horror character nature, it becomes a real bad place for the dreamscape
01:17:37.100 to get trapped in there in this repetitive nightmare.
01:17:40.340 He's not had these, but I can see how this could play out over and over again.
01:17:44.980 You're trying to escape and trick, you know, whatever.
01:17:48.700 This, this, this monstrosity in there with you, chasing you, chasing you, chasing you.
01:17:53.840 I think it becomes a place where these things can torment you in the astral.
01:17:59.740 So, yes, yes, absolutely.
01:18:03.520 So, is that an egregore?
01:18:04.360 That's not an egregore, but it's something like that because it's a lot of dynamics.
01:18:07.660 It's along the lines of one of them.
01:18:08.660 Yeah, it's one of these thought forms, man.
01:18:10.940 They're just getting creative with how to do the same shit.
01:18:13.480 It's really like, it's like AI or the Ouija board, right?
01:18:16.760 It's kind of.
01:18:17.320 Well, then you have the simulacrum, which is the imitation of something real, which I consider
01:18:24.060 would maybe be a doppelganger or something.
01:18:26.440 I've, I've heard stories, real encounters of people with doppelgangers, maybe bullshit,
01:18:30.980 but if it is real.
01:18:32.100 I've heard some stories.
01:18:33.460 I think that maybe the shadow self of some people eventually maybe physically manifest
01:18:39.320 and, like, it's just a phenomenon.
01:18:43.600 I don't know, but I think it has something to do with thought forms.
01:18:46.780 I mean, Austin Picard and Donut are doppelgangers.
01:18:50.540 Holy shit, you were right.
01:18:52.540 Same dude.
01:18:53.360 I saw them side by side in that picture and I was like, wait a minute, Austin's there twice?
01:18:57.520 They wore the same hat.
01:18:58.960 Wait a minute, Austin's there twice?
01:19:01.980 Austin's there twice?
01:19:02.820 I was like, what the fuck did he pull that off?
01:19:05.100 What's wrong with the camera?
01:19:05.900 Yeah, it was, it was really weird.
01:19:08.660 Very strange.
01:19:10.520 Austin parapolitical donut, you know, supernatural ceremonial ritualistic kind of focus.
01:19:17.640 And it's just two, two sides of the exact same coin.
01:19:22.640 But when you flip it over, it's got the same dude's face on it each time.
01:19:26.440 Yeah, it's very strange.
01:19:28.100 And then to be at, like, some weird niche event in the middle of nowhere, Florida.
01:19:31.220 Oh, wait, I have the picture here.
01:19:32.080 Hold on.
01:19:32.800 Let's pull that up because it is just wild.
01:19:35.060 Look at this.
01:19:36.040 Somebody said, Dave's son grows up thinking his father is a deep-minded philosopher until
01:19:39.600 the day he decides to check a dictionary.
01:19:41.360 Look, look, these guys had the nerve to wear the same hat, too.
01:19:43.800 Fucking crazy.
01:19:44.520 Same color shirt.
01:19:46.820 So crazy.
01:19:47.860 And they had glasses on.
01:19:49.060 Donut had-
01:19:49.460 How serious Austin looks?
01:19:51.220 Yeah, yeah.
01:19:52.140 Austin's the dark doppelganger.
01:19:54.280 Donut's the-
01:19:55.560 He's definitely the light one.
01:19:56.580 Donut's the light one.
01:19:57.400 Well, you know what it is?
01:19:58.320 Donut had a great time.
01:19:59.620 Someone made two homunculi.
01:20:02.300 There's a third one rolling around somewhere that we haven't seen.
01:20:05.740 Actually, there's a-
01:20:07.320 Oh, man.
01:20:07.640 Y'all had Doc there, too.
01:20:09.160 Yeah, Doc.
01:20:09.580 I wish you were there, brother.
01:20:11.040 I wish you were there, man.
01:20:12.100 I know, dude.
01:20:12.400 I know.
01:20:12.820 I know.
01:20:13.100 I know.
01:20:13.360 I know.
01:20:13.600 I know.
01:20:13.900 You fucked up.
01:20:15.080 That could have been you.
01:20:15.880 I fucking know.
01:20:17.420 Yeah, that's okay.
01:20:18.380 I'd have been right there in the middle.
01:20:19.960 Right there in the middle.
01:20:20.820 That could have been you.
01:20:21.660 Next time.
01:20:22.160 We're going to do it again.
01:20:22.760 Next time, dude.
01:20:23.480 Guys, no.
01:20:24.160 We're not doing it again.
01:20:25.020 That was it.
01:20:25.740 We're done.
01:20:26.300 We'll bring Twin Peaks in.
01:20:27.740 I'll bring Adrian to fucking Brogrove with his books, and we'll do a whole grape hill
01:20:33.540 little pop-up shop or something.
01:20:35.600 A hundred percent.
01:20:36.600 We have to think about a way to do it because I want to do, like all of you guys, all the
01:20:44.680 conspiracy guys, there's a way to do it and make it really fun.
01:20:48.500 Like, really fun.
01:20:49.400 Absolutely.
01:20:49.540 And we have to figure out the formula to this live thing, but it'll happen.
01:20:54.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:20:54.840 Maybe.
01:20:55.220 Refine it a little bit.
01:20:55.820 We're practicing.
01:20:56.740 We're practicing.
01:20:56.920 I mean, if me and Thomas are there, we could do a sound science thing together or something.
01:21:01.840 I mean, I have a bunch of shows I do, so there's lots that we could talk about, but
01:21:06.920 dude, I promise you guys, try my damnedest to make this next one because I have-
01:21:12.100 More empty promises.
01:21:13.260 That's fine.
01:21:13.980 I know.
01:21:14.780 I know.
01:21:15.560 No more of those.
01:21:17.080 More empty promises.
01:21:18.080 I understand.
01:21:18.700 Yeah, man.
01:21:19.360 I think that, you know, when it comes to these thought forms, it's one thing for dreaming
01:21:26.620 up a character, but it's another thing dreaming up a place.
01:21:31.700 And the maze has always held, like, spiritual significance.
01:21:37.060 You know, you see it in Homer's Odyssey, right?
01:21:40.380 The maze with the Minotaur in it.
01:21:42.260 But this is something, I think, when it comes to, like, this- I don't even want to say the
01:21:47.280 word up, but, you know, the BRs.
01:21:48.940 The BRs.
01:21:49.680 You guys can piece it together.
01:21:50.560 I just don't want them to hear me on the other side of the wall.
01:21:52.640 When it comes to the BR situation, I think they've created an astral maze in which to
01:22:00.700 basically lock you in.
01:22:02.060 Because you ever get caught in this sort of looping dream?
01:22:06.260 And those are-
01:22:07.260 I love how we're on stage.
01:22:08.480 We're on stage with Sam Tripoli, and we said the N-word maybe 30 times in the first 20 minutes,
01:22:13.980 and he's like, he won't say back rooms.
01:22:15.900 It's just like, that's, like, heavy.
01:22:16.840 Well, because, you know, it's just because he's on the other side of the wall, and I
01:22:20.620 don't want him fucking thinking about all this weird shit.
01:22:24.740 The cat's already out of the bag.
01:22:26.020 Fucking kid does nothing.
01:22:26.880 But listen, he's probably listening under the door right now.
01:22:29.080 But, you know, you've had those nightmares where you can't get out of it.
01:22:35.640 You're stuck in a loop.
01:22:36.420 You keep thinking you're waking up, and then all of a sudden, like, you're still in the
01:22:39.780 fucking dream, and I know what it's like.
01:22:43.300 I'm sure everybody knows what it's like to have a nightmare, and then to wake up from
01:22:47.180 it and feel the release, as well as the relief, of being out of it.
01:22:53.220 And you realize in that moment, like, the stress that this put you under.
01:22:59.080 Was palpable.
01:23:00.300 And I believe these things feed off of that.
01:23:02.660 There are negative entities that feed off of negative energy.
01:23:05.580 So if they can keep you trapped in some astral realm where it's fear, fear, panic, anxiety,
01:23:12.300 fear, fear, panic, anxiety, and you're just on a fucking loop, these things are at a buffet.
01:23:17.520 And you're the main course, right?
01:23:18.880 So if they can create something that ends up being part of pop culture for children,
01:23:27.100 and now how many children are subjected to this idea of the BRs, right?
01:23:31.480 The BRs.
01:23:33.020 How many children are subjected to that?
01:23:34.820 So how many children are getting fucking locked in some astral bullshit hotel maze
01:23:41.320 and getting tormented by Shrek, who was supposed to be love and light?
01:23:48.200 Nah, dog.
01:23:48.660 Mike Myers is a fed.
01:23:50.240 Like, this is straight up.
01:23:51.420 We learned this.
01:23:51.920 Just getting molested by Michael Myers in an astral realm?
01:23:55.160 God.
01:23:55.900 Horrific.
01:23:56.800 Horrific.
01:23:57.280 On a loop.
01:23:58.060 You just can't get out of it.
01:23:59.160 It's, yeah, Monsters, Inc.
01:24:00.720 There you go.
01:24:02.120 Keisha says Monsters, Inc.
01:24:03.920 I thought Keisha was a black girl's name, but I know Keisha is not a black girl.
01:24:06.820 So wild observation.
01:24:09.420 I just want to make that as an aside.
01:24:11.940 I just think that that is maybe more nefarious than parents are giving credit to right now.
01:24:21.760 Because there's a lot of parents that are listening to this and going,
01:24:23.880 oh, my little retard talks about the back rooms all the time.
01:24:27.580 Right.
01:24:28.140 Yeah.
01:24:29.420 Yeah.
01:24:29.800 Let's talk about Shrek.
01:24:31.180 Get them away from that.
01:24:32.580 Yeah.
01:24:32.820 I, uh, I, my son has heard about him, but he doesn't watch, uh, he don't watch the videos.
01:24:39.360 He's not a big horror guy.
01:24:40.800 Well, I guess he, I, I don't know.
01:24:42.720 He, I'm sure he's watched them.
01:24:43.880 I don't know.
01:24:44.080 I need to check with him on that now.
01:24:45.740 But, um, but yeah, man, no, I think, uh, there may be a chance that a lot of these things
01:24:54.520 that exist in the ether that end up physically man, like physically manifesting, we somehow
01:25:01.380 help create, maybe not all by ourselves, but definitely maybe a part of that, you know,
01:25:09.200 that force, that driving force that does create something, um, good or bad.
01:25:14.840 Yeah.
01:25:16.680 Yeah.
01:25:17.160 I think we're seeing it with the slender man or we saw it with the slender man.
01:25:20.300 I think we're seeing the same things right now with the BRs.
01:25:24.240 And I wonder, I wonder what, I wonder what that's going to come to it.
01:25:28.760 Cause you know how the slender man situation ended.
01:25:30.860 I, I not saying anything has to happen here, but I wonder if we'll be sitting in a, in a,
01:25:36.100 at a show, you know, a year from now being like, yeah, remember when it was in the news,
01:25:40.160 the kid was talking about, you know, I did this because I was in the, the BRs with them.
01:25:45.800 I don't know who, who the hell knows where it goes, but it seems sometimes like, um, I'm not
01:25:50.100 saying there's a concerted effort by anybody in the physical to do it.
01:25:52.860 I think these spiritual things, they nudge us and sometimes they get so good at nudging us that
01:25:57.960 next thing, you know, they're in your fucking Xbox, you know, maybe we'll listen through your
01:26:05.600 butthole portal, two days, one portal.
01:26:08.700 Uh, guys, this is, uh, this has been a fascinating conversation.
01:26:12.840 I think where I'm landing on this is, is, um,
01:26:18.760 egregores aren't just some thing that only exists because you made it exist.
01:26:23.660 I think these things nudge you one way or another.
01:26:26.340 And if you happen to do the work of fleshing out a character or an idea well enough,
01:26:33.480 you're just giving them a home.
01:26:34.480 And they can embody that thing and they can use it to fucking, to torment you.
01:26:41.280 Um, but listen, Jules, uh, where can everybody find you?
01:26:44.340 And what do you have going on coming up?
01:26:46.000 Cause I know you've got a lot of shows that you do and, uh, and I want people to be able
01:26:49.600 to go and find those shows and, uh, and subscribe to your work.
01:26:52.040 Yeah, man.
01:26:52.600 Uh, at great pilled pod on Twitter, great pilled underscore podcast on Instagram guys.
01:26:58.400 I'm on rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple podcast, Patreon.
01:27:02.360 Again, you come over there, uh, my Elohim etymology shows.
01:27:07.320 They stream there for about a week before we, um, put them out to the public.
01:27:12.600 Uh, we do our own twin peaks, watch parties over there, as well as esoteric book reviews
01:27:18.720 with subliminal messenger that we do on Saturday mornings.
01:27:22.000 Those are Patreon only.
01:27:23.560 The public never sees those.
01:27:25.720 So my, my Patreon has its own like whole list of episodes that the public will never have
01:27:32.180 access to.
01:27:33.420 Um, got a few tiers over there as well as locals.
01:27:36.520 I post all the, all the stream links on locals.
01:27:39.500 Um, yeah.
01:27:40.740 Elohim etymology with my cohost, Adrian West.
01:27:43.820 We'll be doing another one of those this next weekend.
01:27:46.060 Uh, just dropped, uh, part one on Ninurta.
01:27:51.620 So y'all go check that one out.
01:27:54.160 Um, and yeah, sound science is coming back.
01:27:57.900 I believe me and Thomas may do one next week.
01:28:00.420 Uh, shout out to, to the paranoid American.
01:28:03.120 Y'all go to paranoidamerican.com slash discount slash gray pilled for 10% off your purchase.
01:28:09.020 Uh, catch me on already dead tomorrow night.
01:28:13.460 Uh, it's eight 30 central and, uh, yeah, uh, not, not really anything going on right now.
01:28:21.520 Uh, I've been doing a lot of stuff with the occult rejects as well.
01:28:25.100 So love those guys.
01:28:26.560 Shout out those guys.
01:28:27.800 Are you like you're on their panel now?
01:28:30.120 I could, you could consider me, uh, one of them.
01:28:34.160 Yeah.
01:28:34.680 Very cool.
01:28:35.700 Yeah, man.
01:28:36.140 They're, they're good dude.
01:28:37.640 Nick always just sends me the link every stream.
01:28:39.820 And it's like, Hey, I think you'd like this conversation.
01:28:41.960 Come check it out.
01:28:42.620 So smart move.
01:28:44.340 That's what we were saying about you as well.
01:28:46.220 We were like, Jules is a guy that knows his shit.
01:28:49.860 So like picking you up for that kind of a conversation.
01:28:53.220 Very, uh, very smart.
01:28:55.800 I'm always down for anything, man.
01:28:57.640 And, uh, guys, also, if you go to my Patreon, I had stickers that I printed.
01:29:01.960 We get a free sticker pack.
01:29:04.160 Um, I got to send you guys some as well.
01:29:07.480 So don't let me forget.
01:29:09.100 Please do.
01:29:09.840 Shout out to all of the, uh, probably doesn't need any more stickers.
01:29:12.740 But he's got, no, I like stickers.
01:29:15.340 Somebody stuck a sticker on my back for like the entire Bohemian Grove.
01:29:18.740 I didn't notice until I took my shirt off.
01:29:20.680 Was it Titcoin?
01:29:21.280 It was Titcoin.
01:29:22.480 It was a schizo friend.
01:29:23.880 Fucking put it on my back.
01:29:25.740 Very funny.
01:29:26.720 Shout out to all of the Grapis out there, which banger name for a fan base.
01:29:33.300 Yeah.
01:29:33.620 All of the Grapis.
01:29:34.160 They, uh, my wife's not the biggest fan of it, but they named themselves.
01:29:38.400 My wife was at Bohemian Grove while we were, uh, we were saying some pretty aggressive things.
01:29:43.240 Was she there when you were all oiled up getting?
01:29:46.000 Yep.
01:29:46.740 Yep.
01:29:47.200 And she, she, she, uh, she thought it was gay.
01:29:49.700 She enjoyed it.
01:29:50.660 She thought it was good.
01:29:51.800 You know, she thought it was funny.
01:29:53.100 Um, but I think I drew the line at an appropriate place because they wanted me to wear a ball gag.
01:29:57.100 Good God, dude.
01:29:58.840 Good God.
01:30:01.220 Not, not good.
01:30:02.800 Don't that fucking picture of, of you or, uh, I think it's top and Cole or no, I don't know.
01:30:09.660 I think it's you and top kissing Cole is on my wife's laptop and she just came in my, like the room one day and was like, what the fuck is this?
01:30:17.340 Like, uh, top sent that to me one night.
01:30:19.600 I don't know.
01:30:19.920 Oh man, I wish, uh, I wish I could have been there, but you guys killed it, man.
01:30:26.920 Y'all, y'all fucking killed it.
01:30:28.320 Um, everyone who was on stage did a great job.
01:30:32.620 Uh, yeah, I, I, I can't wait for the next one.
01:30:35.880 I don't, you know, hold me to it top, please.
01:30:38.360 It's going to be soon.
01:30:39.200 As long as, as long as we don't die in world war three, it's going to be just fine.
01:30:44.220 We're going to do another one.
01:30:45.380 As long as there is an earth that's not scorched upon which to put a stage, uh, bro grow four
01:30:51.560 will happen.
01:30:52.100 So yes, in the embers, most likely.
01:30:55.380 All right, guys, uh, Jules again, thank you.
01:30:57.880 And, uh, we'll see you guys in a couple of minutes for our next guest.
01:31:02.120 Uh, don't forget to obey, submit and comply.
01:31:05.320 Bye.
01:31:06.960 What's up guys.
01:31:08.040 Uh, we're done with the show, but, uh, stick around because we're going to give you a little,
01:31:14.380 uh, fucking 30 minutes of TLC.
01:31:17.600 Maybe you'll like it.
01:31:18.760 Maybe you won't.
01:31:19.740 Whatever.
01:31:20.860 Stay tuned.
01:31:22.140 Thank you.
01:31:22.520 The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
01:31:29.480 It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
01:31:33.300 You can persuade us that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
01:31:39.160 You don't.
01:31:39.480 Because they don't think facts are an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of us.
01:31:46.980 And they have.
01:31:55.660 Um, there was moments where I was watching.
01:31:58.220 Yeah!
01:32:00.100 I wasn't sure.
01:32:08.660 Top took so long to get to the stage in, in, uh, during the intro, but, um, I felt really
01:32:15.880 comfy up there because you never know, right?
01:32:18.060 It's like, I've done a couple of live things, but not, not in any real meaningful way.
01:32:21.740 So you never know exactly how the thing is going to Jesus Christ.
01:32:25.100 Okay.
01:32:25.320 So Ty Bob, he's the one that went to the sex store and bought the ball gags.
01:32:29.380 Good God, man.
01:32:30.400 Let's get that off the thing.
01:32:32.180 Um, you never know really how it's going to go.
01:32:35.580 And, uh, I don't know.
01:32:37.960 I, I think we nailed it.
01:32:39.820 I think we nailed it.
01:32:40.860 As far as, uh, Nephilim Death Squad goes, and our, and then of course, you know, we were
01:32:44.660 on stage, uh, Top was on stage with Elijah, um, Toad and Cole were there as well.
01:32:50.500 And they did kind of like a tower gang thing.
01:32:52.240 And then we were all on stage for fight back.
01:32:55.680 And, uh, who was the guy in the white mask?
01:32:57.620 Arcane Arsenal says it was Toad, dude.
01:32:59.620 It was Toad.
01:33:01.060 Um, but I think we nailed the second day too.
01:33:05.180 I think Top and I realize we do have, we, we, we have the chops for stage performances,
01:33:11.620 which is really, it's, it's a load off.
01:33:14.320 You know what I mean?
01:33:14.760 Because you don't know that fucking podcasting is ever going to translate to stage presence.
01:33:19.920 I think we did all right.
01:33:21.920 Uh, let's see what we got.
01:33:23.660 So this is Cashman in the beginning.
01:33:26.380 He's, he's talking to Doc Brown.
01:33:27.480 We're actually going to have, uh, Lauren Witsky was going to show up and she was going to
01:33:30.640 talk about some really wild shit.
01:33:33.400 Um, but unfortunately she couldn't make it.
01:33:35.920 Luckily, Doc was there and we were able to pop him in as a, in a state, uh, you know,
01:33:39.940 in, in her wake, in her stead.
01:33:41.500 I don't know if either of those words apply.
01:33:43.500 Give me a second here.
01:33:44.040 Um, but he did a great job and, uh, he had a Bigfoot story, a Lilith story.
01:33:52.940 Cashman was excellent.
01:33:54.460 Stand up guy.
01:33:55.260 Speaking of stand up, Cashman ended up doing a five minute set, excuse me, reading his own
01:34:01.640 tweets and he fucking crushed.
01:34:04.300 He crushed.
01:34:05.980 He did an excellent job as far as like laughs per minute, which I know like some comedians
01:34:10.800 do that.
01:34:11.160 Some comedians will do a long story and a buildup and then they'll, uh, what's the word here?
01:34:18.160 They'll subvert expectations at the last second and then get a big laugh.
01:34:21.700 And then there's other comedians like a Mitch Hedberg, right?
01:34:24.140 Who do it's kind of like just shooting from that, not shooting from the hip, but there's
01:34:28.860 no lead up.
01:34:29.440 There's no premises.
01:34:30.180 He's just saying jokes.
01:34:32.620 Cashman kind of did that.
01:34:33.480 He was reading his own tweets.
01:34:35.320 And they fucking, they crushed, man.
01:34:37.380 Cashman, I think he could be a stand up comedian.
01:34:39.480 And I mean that, uh, there we go.
01:34:42.200 The cult of conspiracy guys, Jacob and Jonathan and, uh, and, and, and Doc Brown.
01:34:47.040 Uh, this is from Doc.
01:34:48.180 Actually, we've got a bunch of cool guys here.
01:34:49.940 I believe, uh, this gentleman's name is Tom in the really, really dope Hawaiian t-shirt.
01:34:54.620 You got Brad Lale, uh, the, uh, Awaken podcast, Sam Tripoli and Doc Brown again.
01:35:01.480 And this was our part of our round table.
01:35:03.860 You know, it's really crazy here.
01:35:05.320 Look at Donut and look at fucking Austin Picard and tell me that they are not the same person.
01:35:14.360 They're the same fucking person.
01:35:18.240 Connie is confirmed alcoholic-y.
01:35:20.060 I heard he went really hard.
01:35:21.340 I heard he went really, really hard.
01:35:25.080 Uh, Perp Kraut said, incredible event, unprecedentedly stacked lineup, electric energy.
01:35:30.160 Thank you so much.
01:35:31.540 Thank you so much.
01:35:32.360 I really appreciate it.
01:35:33.380 I, I thought so.
01:35:35.520 But I'm trying to get feedback.
01:35:36.660 You know what I mean?
01:35:37.440 Because, of course, I'm going to think it was a good time.
01:35:40.640 Or maybe I'm not.
01:35:41.480 I don't know.
01:35:41.720 I could be self-critical to the extent.
01:35:43.140 I'm like, I don't know.
01:35:43.600 Was that good?
01:35:44.140 But it felt like it was good.
01:35:45.360 So, um, it's good to get the feedback on it.
01:35:49.360 It's good to get the feedback.
01:35:50.600 Oh, yeah.
01:35:52.080 Um, her terrible interaction with Laura Loomer.
01:35:54.460 Yeah.
01:35:54.900 Um, Lauren Witski, she, she went out of her way to help Laura Loomer.
01:36:00.700 It seems Laura Loomer just fucking stabbed her in the back.
01:36:03.020 I hate to see it.
01:36:03.760 Um, really disappointing because Lauren Witski has been one of our biggest supporters since
01:36:09.540 the show's inception.
01:36:11.400 I mean, like, she saw, um, what Nephilim Death Squad was way earlier than most people.
01:36:21.440 And she supported it.
01:36:22.740 She backed us.
01:36:24.020 Um, she gave us opportunities.
01:36:25.760 She looks for sponsors for, she's a fucking killer.
01:36:28.840 Love that woman.
01:36:29.780 So I know, based off of her character, that she probably extended that same generosity
01:36:36.000 to, uh, Laura Loomer.
01:36:38.640 And it seems that, uh, you know, a bad investment, a bad investment.
01:36:42.520 It fucking sucks.
01:36:44.440 They were fucking clones.
01:36:45.540 Yeah, dude.
01:36:46.060 Donut and Austin were long lost brothers, dude.
01:36:49.580 Yeah.
01:36:50.660 CIA clones.
01:36:51.800 Yeah, man.
01:36:52.640 Really, really crazy.
01:36:53.660 Really, really crazy.
01:36:54.660 Excuse me.
01:36:55.640 Um, that guy in the flag jacket was on cocaine.
01:36:59.860 Right?
01:37:00.300 No, that's just Alex.
01:37:01.420 Alex, the, the joke joint guy.
01:37:03.500 He's just fucking, just looks like he's, uh, he is cocaine.
01:37:07.400 He's the, if cocaine was disguised as a man, it would be Alex Soto.
01:37:13.800 It would be Alex Soto.
01:37:15.280 Eamon is the Dungeons and Dragons version of Austin and Donut.
01:37:18.200 Dude, Eamon Rat.
01:37:19.600 I don't know where he is.
01:37:20.580 I don't know if he's in the chat.
01:37:21.360 I was so happy to see him for a multitude of reasons.
01:37:25.220 One, because Eamon Rat has been around for so long.
01:37:28.120 And number two, uh, you know, supporting us and everything.
01:37:30.760 And number two, he was having such a blast, man.
01:37:36.640 And you know what it is?
01:37:37.300 It's like you put this event on and you're worried about how everything's going to go.
01:37:40.620 You really care about it.
01:37:42.160 There he is.
01:37:42.960 Beautiful, beautiful Eamon Rat.
01:37:44.620 Beautiful Eamon Rat.
01:37:45.540 And he was having such a good time.
01:37:49.200 He was so happy.
01:37:51.080 And as, as somebody who's just trying to put on something good for you guys, um, when you see that kind of reaction, it's excellent.
01:37:59.620 It really puts you at ease.
01:38:00.760 So every time I walked over and I, I, I, number one, had the pleasure of front row seats to Owen Benjamin's performance, which he fucking crushed.
01:38:10.120 And we'll get into that.
01:38:11.280 But I sat directly next to Eamon Rat.
01:38:13.720 Me and Eamon were shoulder to shoulder enjoying fucking Owen Benjamin's, uh, performance.
01:38:19.100 And I was like, this is the motherfucker that I want to sit next to because his energy is so good.
01:38:24.460 His energy is so good.
01:38:25.880 And it was so much fun.
01:38:27.600 Uh, and so he just amplified it.
01:38:30.040 You know what I mean?
01:38:30.680 He amplified it.
01:38:31.420 It was an empty chair, an extra chair.
01:38:32.940 I, I ran over there.
01:38:34.340 That's so fucking funny.
01:38:36.180 Xerox says we could hear Eamon laughing over everyone on the stream.
01:38:39.580 Dude, he was awesome.
01:38:43.880 He was awesome.
01:38:44.900 Uh, uh, really grateful to have Eamon Rat there.
01:38:47.620 Yeah.
01:38:48.100 A genuine fucking delight.
01:38:49.880 A genuine delight.
01:38:51.320 Uh, Doomsday Cracker says I should have sat on his lap.
01:38:53.640 I was about to.
01:38:54.320 He was rubbing my back at one point.
01:38:55.960 And then he shows me a message where Connie says, rub his, rub his back and see how he reacts.
01:39:01.200 But I like Eamon Rat so much.
01:39:03.060 I didn't even register that he was rubbing my back.
01:39:05.200 I was just like, this is nice.
01:39:06.720 I just sat down.
01:39:10.460 I'm, I'm enjoying hanging with the homies and I'm enjoying Owen Benjamin's performance.
01:39:15.040 And I'm enjoying a nice back rub.
01:39:16.920 I don't know what the problem was.
01:39:18.200 And then he's like, he's doing it for so long and I'm not reacting that I think he felt like it was necessary to show me the text message.
01:39:24.040 That said to do that.
01:39:25.100 And then I put it all together and I was like, oh, this nigga's been.
01:39:30.180 This nigga's been rubbing my back for like five minutes.
01:39:32.380 I didn't even fucking realize it.
01:39:33.860 I just like, you know what it was?
01:39:35.000 I thought he was like, good job, man.
01:39:36.720 Good job.
01:39:37.320 And I was like, fuck yeah, Eamon Rat, you're right.
01:39:40.040 Oh my God.
01:39:41.120 Oh, Top says I got to play Owen's song.
01:39:42.720 Yeah, let's, let's fucking get through a little bit more of this.
01:39:45.540 The conspiracy round table was fucking great.
01:39:48.000 Paranoid American donut.
01:39:49.280 They were holding down the, the fort.
01:39:51.400 Look at this picture.
01:39:52.940 Look at this beautiful, beautiful picture.
01:39:56.780 Oh my goodness.
01:39:58.980 Owen Benjamin staring lovingly at Toad.
01:40:03.420 Man, I mean, what we did at the end of the night, fucking no, what Toad and Owen did at
01:40:12.680 the end of the night of day two was so incredible.
01:40:18.140 Throw the Jew down the well, throw the Jew down the well.
01:40:22.160 I mean, it was fucking awesome.
01:40:26.380 And, and Toad really got his moment in the sun, which is dangerous because he's supposed
01:40:32.500 to have a nice layer of slime over him.
01:40:34.040 He really should be in cool, moist, not cool, but like, you know, moist climates, but instead
01:40:38.600 he was dried out.
01:40:39.400 He was in the sun and he really got to feel it.
01:40:41.820 I think, I think Toad saw the love.
01:40:45.000 And I, I think Toad realized that it's one thing to go through to go viral on the internet,
01:40:51.560 but when you turn the internet off, you're sitting in your fucking house in Massachusetts
01:40:55.800 or whatever, and you don't know if this is even real.
01:41:01.480 And by the end of this man, everybody is screaming, Toad, Toad, Toad, Toad, Toad.
01:41:08.700 And he knew it.
01:41:10.160 He knew it then that this was real.
01:41:14.140 People fucking love him.
01:41:15.660 I love him.
01:41:17.060 Without Toad, Toad was the, the cherry on top of what was already a successful event.
01:41:24.780 Not nice guy says, Toad played my request.
01:41:27.020 It's really funny because apparently Owen was trying to get into place somewhere over
01:41:30.120 the rainbow, but throw the Jew down the well is even better.
01:41:36.900 It's even better.
01:41:38.660 Bravo to not nice guy.
01:41:39.920 Yeah, absolute banger request, banger request.
01:41:44.300 All right, let's see.
01:41:45.760 I love this picture that needs to get framed and it needs to be up in Toad's house, up
01:41:50.680 in Toad's house.
01:41:51.960 A couple more photos here.
01:41:53.560 Boom.
01:41:54.880 That's the fight back podcast where we got on there.
01:41:57.260 There's me just being fucking touched by Toad.
01:42:00.020 He's touching me.
01:42:01.280 It's, it's, we're a lot of, there's a lot of touching.
01:42:03.760 Adam, the lectern guy stopped by as well.
01:42:06.260 Oh, this is Schizo Friend.
01:42:07.280 There we go.
01:42:07.760 Shout out Schizo Friend.
01:42:08.540 He was slapping Titcoin stickers everywhere.
01:42:11.860 I had a pocket full of them and I didn't even understand how it happened.
01:42:13.840 I think he was just sliding them into my pocket.
01:42:16.680 Sam Tripoli and Schizo Friend.
01:42:18.140 Schizo Friend had a banger shirt on, by the way.
01:42:20.140 There was a company that that was from.
01:42:21.460 I'd like to know which one that was.
01:42:22.780 There we go.
01:42:23.660 Lauren is there.
01:42:24.840 She came the second night.
01:42:27.060 So cool to have her.
01:42:28.160 I love her to death.
01:42:30.120 I told her people like her are worth their weight in gold.
01:42:34.000 And that's something that I say to people.
01:42:36.940 I've said that to a couple people recently.
01:42:38.580 And it's like people that give a shit about what we do, that want to help, that want to contribute, that want to support us.
01:42:44.840 There's no way to downplay or overplay, rather, how important those people are.
01:42:50.160 There we go.
01:42:50.740 Top Lobster had a good time despite the stress.
01:42:53.620 I know he felt good about it.
01:42:55.040 There we go.
01:42:55.780 Cashman.
01:42:57.200 Elijah Schaefer, who also unbuttoned his shirt for the very homosexual bodybuilding competition.
01:43:02.120 And I appreciated that.
01:43:03.340 Solidarity between homies.
01:43:05.340 There we go.
01:43:06.320 Owen and Toad.
01:43:07.880 There it is again.
01:43:09.520 We're very oiled.
01:43:11.780 Very shiny.
01:43:14.560 I don't like the way those things feel, by the way.
01:43:16.860 I'm not a lotion guy.
01:43:17.800 I don't put lotion on.
01:43:18.640 I don't put anything on my face, which is why I look like I'm probably 10 years older than I really am.
01:43:22.820 Maybe I should moisturize.
01:43:23.860 I just don't like the way it feels.
01:43:24.980 My body felt disgusting for the next few hours after that.
01:43:30.240 Just fucking, just embarrassing.
01:43:32.860 Just very gay.
01:43:34.600 Very gay, very gay.
01:43:35.660 Thank you to Wang Gretzky.
01:43:37.400 Fuck the Tropic Theater.
01:43:38.360 They really missed out.
01:43:41.260 Let's see what else we got here.
01:43:43.200 We're going to find Owen's performance.
01:43:45.320 Oh, there's the Trump impersonator.
01:43:46.860 He fucking nailed it.
01:43:48.480 He nailed it.
01:43:49.340 He was there when we needed him on day two to read that tweet.
01:43:54.720 It was unbelievable.
01:43:56.320 There's Alex, the red-coated Jew, literally in his red coat.
01:43:58.860 That's me in an alternate timeline.
01:44:01.020 They say it's me in 40 years.
01:44:02.520 I don't really think so.
01:44:03.580 We don't look much different from each other.
01:44:05.240 I've got as many wrinkles, I think.
01:44:07.380 Boom, boom, boom.
01:44:08.460 Let's see.
01:44:08.800 I just want to see if we can get this real ride or die just looking like a blurry Bigfoot.
01:44:14.140 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:44:15.060 There we go.
01:44:16.360 Amazing weekend.
01:44:17.160 I always remember where I was when you broke the World War III news to Shane Cashman, 9-11 style.
01:44:22.420 Thanks for bringing these legends to Central Florida.
01:44:25.640 There he is.
01:44:26.100 This is the moment you can see fat Trump impersonator off to the side.
01:44:30.000 He does his thing.
01:44:30.900 Really, really incredible moment.
01:44:33.760 And if I show spam, I don't know what.
01:44:35.580 Let's see what spam is.
01:44:36.540 Some people are probably saying, yeah, there we go.
01:44:37.900 17 people showed up.
01:44:39.360 You're thanking 17 people.
01:44:40.400 You're a fucking faggot.
01:44:41.060 This is the worst thing I've ever been a part of in my entire life.
01:44:46.180 This will be a huge weekend stuff.
01:44:48.100 Yeah, I'm done with this.
01:44:49.000 That one just brings shots to this.
01:44:50.220 Yep.
01:44:50.680 I'm done with this.
01:44:51.780 I'm done.
01:44:52.420 The ADL will finally like us.
01:44:53.940 Not too low.
01:44:54.860 Nice one.
01:44:55.560 I mean, hey, come back.
01:44:57.080 Can I get my dog back?
01:44:58.020 Yeah, very fun, though, guys.
01:45:03.800 Very fun.
01:45:04.640 As gay as it was, though, I know a lot of people did have a lot of fun.
01:45:07.920 They thought it was funny.
01:45:09.360 So that's good.
01:45:10.640 That's good.
01:45:11.220 Yeah, man.
01:45:11.760 Oh, God.
01:45:12.460 The oily visage of my body is...
01:45:16.080 It's rough to see.
01:45:17.420 Okay.
01:45:17.700 I'm going to see if we can find Owen.
01:45:20.200 There we go.
01:45:20.700 Share to post.
01:45:21.520 This is great.
01:45:22.300 Let's do this.
01:45:22.980 Dude, Owen Benjamin...
01:45:26.540 Thank you, Top, for sending this.
01:45:28.020 Owen Benjamin, he wrote this, like, overnight.
01:45:31.880 He stayed up late and wrote this thing overnight.
01:45:35.880 And it's such a good song.
01:45:37.540 Let's get into it.
01:45:38.120 All right.
01:45:45.880 All right.
01:45:47.920 Here we go.
01:45:51.100 Living off pensions.
01:45:53.840 Some long-term investments.
01:45:57.180 A real estate deal I've made, two or three.
01:46:02.160 Crushes it.
01:46:03.740 I'm here because I made it.
01:46:06.680 With bootstraps and pure grit.
01:46:10.300 Everything that I have, I have because of me.
01:46:16.680 Custom golf carts at Corvette.
01:46:20.040 Agnes texts me, she's real wet.
01:46:22.340 Pop boner pills for some really sweet poom.
01:46:29.760 Trained a lake for my golf green.
01:46:32.940 Oh, Zempic to stay lean.
01:46:36.440 Gave Agnes clap that should be cleared up by June.
01:46:39.640 Swing in the day away in Baby Boomerville.
01:46:48.900 Sitting on the couch, blasting the news.
01:46:52.620 Some people claim that I'm too old to want to bang.
01:47:01.300 But I know.
01:47:02.080 It's the blue pills.
01:47:05.120 It's the blue pill's fault.
01:47:05.540 Yeah, I just want to say real quick.
01:47:08.840 I see Xerox said, yeah, Owen said he was done doing shows, but I think he'll go again.
01:47:13.440 Owen was having so much fun.
01:47:15.980 And it was so clear to me that he was having so much fun.
01:47:20.300 I don't know, man.
01:47:21.380 I think there's a chance of getting him out again.
01:47:23.120 I really do.
01:47:23.700 It's like real long, and I'm not going to stop.
01:47:28.580 It's like Freebird, dude.
01:47:31.120 No, like even these guys are going to be like, dude, still?
01:47:35.720 Bro, I was up all night like fucking memento.
01:47:38.780 Like, oh, geez.
01:47:39.840 There we go.
01:47:40.760 Because I've never seen anything like this in my life.
01:47:43.320 It's like pure hell.
01:47:45.240 Yeah.
01:47:45.440 Just so you know, he's talking about the villages, which is just filled with old people who are fucking all the time.
01:47:52.100 That's pretty much it.
01:47:53.120 They dance and they fuck and they dance and they fuck and they drink and they eat and they dance and they fuck.
01:47:56.600 And that's where we bought Owen Benjamin.
01:48:00.200 First wife was a buzzkill.
01:48:03.360 Second one was real chill.
01:48:06.760 Third one I bought when I went overseas.
01:48:12.160 Dude, all facts, by the way.
01:48:13.760 She's a real looker.
01:48:18.460 Technically not a hooker.
01:48:21.540 Reverse my mortgage to buy those double D's.
01:48:27.360 Skip my son's graduation.
01:48:30.440 Because he refused vaccination.
01:48:33.840 Seems like he just wants me to die.
01:48:40.680 Daughter just had a baby.
01:48:43.760 I'll visit it maybe.
01:48:45.540 Not sure if I have enough miles to fly.
01:48:53.540 Avoiding my kids again in baby boomerville.
01:48:59.720 Spoiled brats just won't leave me alone.
01:49:03.260 Some people claim it's their shit father to blame.
01:49:11.420 But I know it's their mom's fault.
01:49:15.720 Ten grand on a fun cruise.
01:49:22.180 Gambling in the best booze.
01:49:25.180 My kids think they'll get money someday.
01:49:28.820 Most of them still rent.
01:49:35.600 One lives in a tent.
01:49:40.440 I bought my first house when I was making minimum wage.
01:49:44.800 Where's the next fucking place?
01:49:50.080 Oh my God.
01:49:50.780 Yeah.
01:49:50.980 Him and Toad releasing an album would be incredible.
01:49:52.980 Listen, I can't wing this thing.
01:49:54.440 I am.
01:49:54.780 My kids went to college.
01:49:59.560 I said they had to for knowledge.
01:50:02.960 Told them if they didn't they'd have no hope at all.
01:50:06.640 Now they have unpayable debt.
01:50:13.200 Riddled with regret.
01:50:16.140 But on my cruise I'm fucking having a ball.
01:50:23.060 Mocking my kids again in baby boomerville.
01:50:29.020 Pumping TRT, slamming high noons.
01:50:32.960 Some people claim that it's my greed that's the blame.
01:50:41.440 But I know it's never the juice.
01:50:49.300 Visors and flip flops.
01:50:50.700 I'm telling you it doesn't end.
01:50:55.060 I just want you guys to know I was in the front row for this.
01:50:58.600 The front row.
01:50:59.560 I'm literally I could reach out and touch Owen's feet.
01:51:01.640 I mean, this was such an amazing experience, man.
01:51:04.340 There's some flip flops.
01:51:06.920 Bloody Marys and eye drops.
01:51:09.960 9 a.m.
01:51:11.260 Tea time.
01:51:12.340 I'm blacked out by three.
01:51:16.520 Nothing matters.
01:51:17.760 So why try?
01:51:19.900 World's ending when I die.
01:51:22.940 Rocking deep ends so I can golf when I pee.
01:51:26.080 Feeding my flesh all day in baby boomerville.
01:51:35.280 My will gives it all to the ADL.
01:51:39.600 I know the kids want my money.
01:51:47.600 Money I've earned.
01:51:49.580 But it's burned.
01:51:52.020 As I head off to hell.
01:52:01.120 Thank you.
01:52:03.060 Incredible.
01:52:03.740 Dude.
01:52:05.480 It was really such a good time.
01:52:07.020 And I said it before.
01:52:08.420 Top, I don't know if you could find
01:52:09.460 Throw the Jew Down the Well.
01:52:12.000 If you send me that, that would be a lot of fun.
01:52:14.200 Throw the Jew Down the Well was great.
01:52:15.720 Let me bring this down.
01:52:19.420 And maybe we'll bring some more stuff up later on.
01:52:22.220 But boom.
01:52:25.100 Dude.
01:52:26.900 So I found out that there was actually quite a few people
01:52:29.180 That didn't want this to happen.
01:52:30.720 That were praying for the downfall of it.
01:52:32.300 Which I thought was very gay.
01:52:33.140 It's like, why would you do that?
01:52:34.340 It's just a good time for people.
01:52:36.980 These are great comedians.
01:52:38.460 Sam Tripoli.
01:52:39.520 Great comedian.
01:52:40.280 Owen Benjamin.
01:52:40.820 Great comedian.
01:52:43.140 It's like, you know, people think that
01:52:44.760 You're praying for the downfall of it
01:52:46.980 Because maybe
01:52:47.760 Because Top and I are executing it.
01:52:50.000 Maybe you don't like us.
01:52:51.280 And it's like, there was so many great people there.
01:52:54.400 Why would you be such a faggot about it?
01:52:55.700 It was such a good time.
01:52:57.040 It was such a good time.
01:52:57.800 I want to show off a little bit of the things
01:52:59.300 That people got me.
01:53:01.460 Number one
01:53:02.100 I don't know if this was
01:53:05.280 This might have been Milhouse too.
01:53:07.080 But I isolated some of the
01:53:09.080 Really dope cards
01:53:10.200 That I got here.
01:53:11.840 I just want people to see this.
01:53:12.860 This is very good.
01:53:14.980 I got a Nidoqueen.
01:53:16.600 For those of you who know
01:53:17.840 You know that that's a banger.
01:53:19.880 A Vileplume.
01:53:21.000 Another fucking banger.
01:53:24.320 This is all self-congratulatory moment, by the way.
01:53:27.000 A Rhydon.
01:53:28.060 Another banger.
01:53:29.980 Some people got the memo.
01:53:31.700 Bring your boy.
01:53:32.440 Old school Pokemon cards.
01:53:33.440 Really appreciate it.
01:53:33.920 A fucking Gengar.
01:53:35.580 Another banger.
01:53:36.740 That was me.
01:53:37.380 It was Schizofren.
01:53:38.180 There we go, baby.
01:53:39.220 Thank you so much, brother.
01:53:40.100 A fucking Venomoth.
01:53:43.600 Look at that Venomoth, dude.
01:53:45.980 How cool is that?
01:53:46.880 Why is Top calling me?
01:53:48.100 Oh my god.
01:53:49.020 He's calling me.
01:53:49.780 Hold on a second.
01:53:53.920 Hold on.
01:53:54.420 You're on speakerphone.
01:53:55.020 What do you want?
01:53:56.320 Hey, what are you doing?
01:53:57.400 I'm doing a show.
01:53:58.520 And I'm showing off the Pokemon cards
01:53:59.940 That people got for me.
01:54:00.740 Look at that Jolteon.
01:54:01.940 I got a Jolteon.
01:54:03.380 What?
01:54:03.560 We have a show at 1.
01:54:05.400 What do you mean?
01:54:06.040 What time is it?
01:54:06.660 It's 10.10.
01:54:07.200 I'm doing the important show.
01:54:08.780 The big show.
01:54:09.760 And then we'll do Nephilim Death Squad later on.
01:54:12.260 But I'm doing the big show right now.
01:54:13.940 Look at this.
01:54:14.820 Pidgeot.
01:54:15.200 I'm going to send you day two of Descript.
01:54:18.440 It's going to be a link.
01:54:19.440 You could open it up and you could listen to
01:54:21.140 You got to go all the way to the end.
01:54:22.900 And that's his throw the Jew down the well.
01:54:26.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:54:27.080 Okay.
01:54:27.320 That's great.
01:54:27.800 Yeah, we're going to play.
01:54:28.360 You hear that, guys?
01:54:28.760 We're going to play throw the Jew down the well.
01:54:30.120 So I'm going to show off some of the gifts that we got.
01:54:32.440 And then we're going to throw the Jew down the well.
01:54:34.320 All right.
01:54:34.500 That's great.
01:54:34.880 Send me that link.
01:54:35.980 All right.
01:54:36.260 Wrap the show off.
01:54:37.100 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:54:38.420 I'm going to keep it going.
01:54:39.280 Now it's going to be twice as long.
01:54:42.320 Did he hang up?
01:54:43.060 He hung up.
01:54:43.540 What a piece of shit.
01:54:44.940 We're going to play that throw the Jew down the well.
01:54:46.720 That's going to be a lot of fun, guys.
01:54:48.000 A lot of fun.
01:54:50.340 Also, I showed you guys this.
01:54:52.280 I don't know if this is illegal.
01:54:53.140 I don't think it's illegal.
01:54:53.780 I don't know much about guns.
01:54:56.160 Somebody said this is.
01:54:57.340 I'm not even going to say what it is.
01:54:58.860 You guys will know, I guess.
01:55:00.560 If you know, you know.
01:55:01.300 But look at that, right?
01:55:02.380 We got an engraved NDS logo on it.
01:55:05.380 And then if you look at the little details there, it says full retard instead of full auto.
01:55:10.980 I don't think this thing does that.
01:55:12.580 I'm just saying.
01:55:14.700 How cool is that?
01:55:15.540 And then Psalm 144.1.
01:55:20.580 It says, blessed be the Lord, my strength, which teacheth my hands for war and my fingers for battle.
01:55:29.240 How fucking cool is that?
01:55:30.620 I don't know what it is.
01:55:31.300 Hicktown says we know what it is.
01:55:33.340 I don't know what it is.
01:55:34.100 I'm retarded.
01:55:36.580 Very, very, very, very, very cool.
01:55:39.100 Very cool.
01:55:39.720 I don't know what it is.
01:55:40.360 That Qui-Gon saying stuff.
01:55:41.340 I don't know what that stuff means.
01:55:42.340 Who knows?
01:55:42.560 A shout out to, I think his name was Costa Rica Tom.
01:55:48.860 Who the fuck made that?
01:55:49.880 Don't know.
01:55:50.780 I don't know because it was just given to me by, you know how many big bald dudes with beards there was?
01:55:58.380 It's so fucking crazy.
01:56:00.460 Excuse me.
01:56:01.040 The amount of big bald dudes with beards.
01:56:04.560 I'm just looking up at them and they're giving me stuff.
01:56:07.060 Love them to death.
01:56:07.640 Didn't know that that many big bald dudes with beards liked us.
01:56:11.160 But yeah, he gave it to me.
01:56:12.320 In the parking lot.
01:56:15.300 So Costa Rica Tom.
01:56:17.500 I believe his last name is.
01:56:18.780 I mean, I believe his last name.
01:56:20.020 I believe his name is Tom.
01:56:22.900 I could be wrong.
01:56:24.240 But either way, dude came all the way from Costa Rica.
01:56:26.780 Turns out a lot of people came from a lot of different places.
01:56:31.280 Very cool.
01:56:32.680 Costa Rica being one of them.
01:56:33.820 There was a couple of Canadians there.
01:56:35.020 I think there was even somebody from the Netherlands that was there.
01:56:38.180 And then, of course, all around the country.
01:56:42.640 Ohio, Arizona, California, you know, Massachusetts.
01:56:46.940 So many different places.
01:56:48.440 Really, really crazy that people came that far.
01:56:51.080 So Costa Rica Tom, number one, thank you so much for the gift.
01:56:58.660 He wasn't even Costa Rican.
01:56:59.740 He was not Costa Rican.
01:57:00.680 He just lives in Costa Rica.
01:57:02.740 The gifts that he bought.
01:57:04.200 But he bought me a, he bought, Top and I, a big cardboard box.
01:57:12.620 Like a, it was like a briefcase.
01:57:14.000 I forgot what brand it was.
01:57:15.060 It was really nice.
01:57:15.980 Filled with two things.
01:57:18.480 Costa Rican coffee.
01:57:19.840 Big coffee guy.
01:57:20.820 Drank it this morning.
01:57:22.020 Delicious.
01:57:23.040 Thank you very much, sir.
01:57:24.420 And Costa Rican chocolate.
01:57:26.360 Which, I had one drink.
01:57:30.780 One drink at the end of the second night at Mojo's with all the VIP people.
01:57:37.440 With all the homies who came to hang and eat.
01:57:39.440 Once again, shout out Mojo's.
01:57:40.480 Delicious food.
01:57:41.220 I got a boss hog.
01:57:43.520 I got a boss hog.
01:57:45.240 It's fucking delicious.
01:57:46.580 It's like a pulled pork kind of sandwich.
01:57:48.560 I don't know what it was.
01:57:49.100 So good.
01:57:50.380 And then I had one celebratory shot with some of the homies at the end of the night.
01:57:55.360 Which is wonderful.
01:57:56.360 But I was wired the entire time.
01:58:01.600 Do you know why I was wired?
01:58:03.540 I ate so much fucking chocolate.
01:58:06.360 So much chocolate.
01:58:07.540 The chocolate was incredible.
01:58:09.000 Now that was one thing.
01:58:10.400 From Costa Rican Tom.
01:58:11.580 Unbelievably, Mojo Jojo.
01:58:15.220 Mojo Jojo's, yes.
01:58:16.640 Yeah, Mojo's was wild.
01:58:18.300 It was wild, man.
01:58:19.160 It was wild to have all those fucking psychotic dangerous retards in one place on that patio.
01:58:24.020 Such a good time.
01:58:25.260 Such a good time.
01:58:25.880 You guys are fucking awesome.
01:58:27.860 But Tom had a son that was with him.
01:58:33.280 I think his son was 17 years old.
01:58:35.660 And he was clearly on the spectrum.
01:58:37.440 And I'm not saying that as a dig.
01:58:39.740 I'm saying that as like, it was pretty obvious.
01:58:43.380 Wonderful fucking kid, though.
01:58:45.260 Wonderful kid.
01:58:46.240 So first day, we get off stage after doing Nephilim Death Squad.
01:58:49.940 And what's great is I feel like we did a good job.
01:58:53.360 That's very meaningful to me.
01:58:55.160 Very meaningful to me that we did a good job because I want you guys to have a good experience.
01:58:59.740 All the people who paid money, all the people who traveled, I want to put on a good performance for you.
01:59:04.720 Not Nice Guy stole Nancy's waffle fries.
01:59:06.680 I wouldn't tell her that.
01:59:08.420 She'll kill you.
01:59:09.160 You know what a pleasure it was to meet Nancy, by the way?
01:59:11.560 Fucking incredible.
01:59:13.580 Awesome person.
01:59:15.020 We want to hire her.
01:59:16.020 I really do.
01:59:16.940 I love Nancy.
01:59:17.680 She's grafted into the family.
01:59:18.740 I told her she's a Corbo.
01:59:19.620 She hung out with us.
01:59:22.280 She chatted with my wife.
01:59:23.100 My wife was like, this is Nancy.
01:59:25.660 Nancy's a wonderful fucking person.
01:59:28.060 And I need her to be employed by us.
01:59:31.200 We got to figure that out.
01:59:33.020 So Tom, Costa Rican Tommy has this son.
01:59:37.220 He's on the spectrum.
01:59:38.180 Wonderful kid.
01:59:38.680 We get off after nailing what I think is a successful performance.
01:59:43.580 And he walks up to me and he says, I want you to have this.
01:59:48.120 And he hands me this thing.
01:59:49.700 I'm going to show you in a second.
01:59:50.960 And he goes, excuse me.
01:59:54.660 He goes, I want you to have this.
01:59:59.760 Thank you for making my father happy.
02:00:04.560 Thank you for making my father happy.
02:00:06.380 And he hands me this.
02:00:07.860 So this is a seal.
02:00:10.100 And you can see here, he's got some Japanese.
02:00:13.240 Oopsie, you don't want that to disappear.
02:00:14.780 His name is Agu.
02:00:15.600 And he's got some Japanese lettering going down his back.
02:00:18.880 And he's very well drawn, an excellent seal.
02:00:21.720 At the bottom, it says, Foka Larga, Spotted Seal.
02:00:28.440 So it says it in Japanese and then it says it in English.
02:00:32.500 And if you read the back here, it says,
02:00:34.080 Agu is a 32-year-old spotted seal from Japan.
02:00:37.920 And to date is the only seal to be police chief for a day.
02:00:45.460 For a day.
02:00:48.320 I said, fuck, man.
02:00:52.080 That's so cool that he would do that and that he would make this.
02:00:58.000 And he spent the time to draw and he gave it to me.
02:00:59.620 And it was really, really beautiful.
02:01:01.580 And then what was cool is I got the pleasure of talking with that same kid.
02:01:06.240 I wish I remembered his name.
02:01:07.620 I'm terrible with names.
02:01:08.460 But he came up to me on day two.
02:01:11.600 And he said, I have this dream I want to tell you about.
02:01:15.100 And I said, fucking dreams?
02:01:17.400 You know I love dreams.
02:01:18.560 Everybody knows I love dreams.
02:01:19.720 Tell me about your dreams, baby boy.
02:01:21.020 So he pulls me to the side.
02:01:22.660 And he tells me this dream that he has about a black dog with red eyes.
02:01:26.300 And I go, fuck, man.
02:01:28.320 Kind of pops up a lot, right?
02:01:29.440 So I'm listening to what he's saying.
02:01:30.560 I'm thinking, okay, that's very interesting.
02:01:33.080 And he tells me his theories on what he thinks it is.
02:01:35.820 And I go, well, interestingly enough, I had a dream.
02:01:39.620 Can I tell you about my dream?
02:01:41.420 And I do.
02:01:42.000 I tell him about my dream.
02:01:42.920 I had one not long ago.
02:01:43.940 Everybody knows the dog dream where I fucking stabbed the dog and the dog died.
02:01:47.260 I think the dog honestly represented weed.
02:01:49.680 And I explained that to him.
02:01:50.820 And then I even went a step further.
02:01:52.280 I said, my son also has had a dream about a black dog with red eyes.
02:01:55.840 And I told him to rebuke it in the name of Christ because it talked English to him.
02:02:00.220 I don't know if it moved its mouth or it was just in his head.
02:02:02.400 And it did it over like a span of two dreams.
02:02:05.460 But like I got to sit there and talk with this kid.
02:02:09.560 You know, he and I held court for like, you know, 10 minutes.
02:02:12.220 I stopped everything.
02:02:13.680 What I was doing, where I was going, stopped paying attention to the sets.
02:02:17.820 And we just talked, man.
02:02:20.320 And like, I don't know.
02:02:22.680 Felt really special.
02:02:23.900 It felt really special.
02:02:24.800 Felt really cool.
02:02:25.540 It's just something you obviously you don't get through the camera.
02:02:31.220 You get to connect with people in a really crazy way.
02:02:35.640 Top doesn't know his blood type or how old he is.
02:02:37.440 I also don't know my blood type.
02:02:38.740 I have no idea what my blood type is.
02:02:40.700 Did I send him to the confessions booth?
02:02:42.360 No.
02:02:42.680 He said that he wanted to, but he got nervous.
02:02:45.360 And so he just wanted to tell me.
02:02:47.900 Which I thought was crazy.
02:02:49.500 I thought was crazy.
02:02:50.780 Chat is wilder than your picture.
02:02:53.360 Sorry, Raven.
02:02:54.320 Address the Nancy abuse.
02:02:55.640 I was told not to talk about it.
02:02:58.680 We're not really sure where things are going to settle legally.
02:03:04.560 And we're also not sure if we even have to pursue a legal route.
02:03:07.160 I don't know that we have to go that way.
02:03:08.860 I know, you know, you want to do things in good faith.
02:03:13.500 You want to hit a woman in good faith.
02:03:15.060 And you want to think that there doesn't have to be legal action brought into it.
02:03:18.860 But in 2025, things do.