Nephilim Death Squad - Does the Bible Teach Flat Earth？ w⧸ Sean from Kingdom in Context

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00:02:08.140 which has been when was the last time we had shown on it's been too long um and so we're happy to have

00:02:14.180 you back before we get into the conversation sean let's talk about where people can find you and

00:02:18.040 support you yeah thanks for having me on guys kingdom in context on youtube rumble twitch excuse

00:02:24.180 me not twitch kick um yeah kingdom of context the easiest place to find me we have a over like

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00:02:39.500 well that's interesting i just followed i saw your t-shirt but i i was like i don't know what

00:02:44.200 that is i didn't maybe i'll ask him later yeah we've been covering the charlie kirk case over

00:02:48.000 there so looking at evidence and things yeah what do you think they think they ate him

00:02:53.420 no i don't think he's alive uh i i'm i lean towards the exploding mic theory because of

00:03:01.980 all the circumstantial evidence of of certain things they cleaned up immediately and didn't

00:03:06.460 get properly cordoned off in the crime scene or retained as evidence long term uh all that seems

00:03:12.320 to lean towards the exploding mic theory specifically with you know the the actual

00:03:15.920 plant in tennessee that apparently made the explosives that that was destroyed a month

00:03:19.520 after and all that kind of stuff so i i don't want to derail us too much because we have this

00:03:24.360 really fascinating conversation to get into when it comes to biblical cosmology flat earth all

00:03:28.400 these things i'm really excited to be talking to you about it but i i wanted to just ask you

00:03:32.320 um doesn't it feel like there's so many elements of the charlie kirk uh you know situation that

00:03:39.500 are strange and inconsistent and conspiratorial to the extent that it feels like a jfk sort of

00:03:47.000 set up like you could look into this forever and find insane things that that are not consistent

00:03:54.640 with reality whatsoever that wouldn't happen under any normal circumstances and that just stick out

00:03:59.640 like like a sore thumb and i wonder if that's by design what do you think about all that yeah i

00:04:04.520 think it's ridiculous to say you have a professional ex-military security team and they don't cover a

00:04:08.540 single roof in the venue yeah yeah yeah we discovered to explain case in point to your

00:04:15.300 point like that's the first and biggest issue of like how could you possibly be sitting into what

00:04:20.220 they would call a kill zone right where the amphitheater is depressed into the natural

00:04:23.500 architecture of the buildings and you have all these roofs around you and not a single roof was

00:04:27.780 covered it's crazy especially like within a year of the butler shooting as well right well it's

00:04:33.580 yeah yeah exactly it's almost unbelievable some would say yeah we were looking up the other day

00:04:37.880 uh this idea that there i believe there's even a receipt the very next day after the shooting the

00:04:44.800 university paid you know whatever amount they paid uh to a company to come out and tear up the

00:04:51.120 sod tear up the grass and everything and then lay down concrete pavers on september 11th on

00:04:56.640 september on september 11th is when the payment was issued uh which is just insane because if

00:05:02.380 you're dealing with a a live uh what would you call it you know crime scene crime scene there's

00:05:08.580 evidence in that grass everything about it and then to what tpusda does afterwards and

00:05:14.980 the entire thing reeks of psychological warfare and uh and so you know i i don't have any answers

00:05:22.200 necessarily to say what's going on but i do have um uh you know my hackles get raised up when

00:05:28.000 somebody goes there's nothing to see here he was shot by this guy on a roof and everybody's just

00:05:32.960 a conspiracy theorist i go that we can't even say that earnestly this is so strange anybody who

00:05:38.240 looks at it just you know a little bit what on this flat earth is going on how dare you how dare

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00:07:45.160 service uh Sean you muted yourself I think you touched your mic speaking of I'd love to be able

00:07:52.960 to talk with charlie about some of those things about because it is biblical um the the concept

00:07:57.940 of biblical cosmology are we enclosed by a firmament um is this place we love on a spinning

00:08:02.740 ball that's supposedly spinning a thousand miles per hour circling around the sun sun then flying

00:08:07.400 at ridiculous speeds through space um can any of that be measured detected is any of that coherent

00:08:11.940 with what god says and so that's what i hope that we can get into some of the fun details today

00:08:16.260 yeah i'm i'm pumped about this this is this is one of these topics that we don't touch as often

00:08:21.320 as we should. And it's something that's really fascinating to me, but specifically coming at it

00:08:27.740 from a biblical standpoint, I think is the correct standpoint to come at it from.

00:08:31.760 Also interesting to say, I wonder what Charlie would have thought about this,

00:08:34.980 because I feel like Charlie was on his way toward flat earth. It seemed like he had just

00:08:39.340 noticed Israel. And then from there, you go down the rabbit hole. 0.81

00:08:44.420 The way I talk about it is he started, and I'm not saying this for everyone listening that hasn't

00:08:49.160 come to this understanding yet i'm not trying to degrade you with this statement but this is i'm

00:08:54.420 stealing the statement from the the late great chuck missler okay he used to say um i'm i take

00:09:01.200 the bible seriously okay so when i see scholars phds and i've had them on my channel we've

00:09:07.000 interviewed them i've had debates with them and they talk when we talk about this topic and they

00:09:10.360 just say oh that's all allegory oh that's all poetic oh that's all that's all just some sort

00:09:14.280 of metaphor right you're not taking the bible seriously right you're just that's just a hand

00:09:18.940 wave dismissal when i when you when it talks literally about the vault of heaven that encompasses

00:09:24.460 the earth in job and psalms amos like you're not taking it like when even the translators

00:09:30.780 themselves start directly translating the word vaulted dome into the text in amos 9 6 because

00:09:37.000 they know that's the historical and lexiconical definition but then modern scholars just go nah

00:09:42.540 you know no that's that was just a metaphor okay well then for what where's the comparison

00:09:47.240 Show me that you're taking the text seriously and that you're not just having a cogniz moment.

00:09:52.280 Yeah, that's exactly what the problem is, right?

00:09:53.800 You have a worldview and you're trying to bend the Bible to it rather than bending your worldview to what Scripture says.

00:10:00.060 And that's where people get into trouble pretty consistently.

00:10:02.440 I think I got in a little trouble with that yesterday, but Sean was in the chat to correct me because when we were talking about the term goy, I'm like, hey, that's a derogatory slur.

00:10:11.720 He's like, well, actually, it's not translated to that biblically, but it is like more modern, modernly used as a derogatory.

00:10:18.520 So I'm getting myself mixed up because I had this issue there where I was like, well, then I have a problem with the Bible.

00:10:23.260 If that word is being used in this way and you're saying God is using it that way, that doesn't make sense.

00:10:28.100 It doesn't track.

00:10:29.280 But obviously I was wrong there.

00:10:31.360 Yeah.

00:10:31.440 God uses much worse terms than Goy to talk about unfaithful, wicked people. 0.95

00:10:35.540 He calls them dogs. 0.90

00:10:37.320 Yeah.

00:10:37.660 There you go.

00:10:38.200 Yeah.

00:10:40.180 But I get it.

00:10:41.440 Yeah. 0.98

00:10:41.560 In modernity, the same group of religious zealots who've rejected the father and the son because they reject the prophets the father sends to him, who also do not take the Bible seriously and just willy-nilly interpret it all these different stupid ways and try to find loopholes. 0.70

00:10:55.520 Yeah, that same group of people have abused words like Goy. 0.93

00:10:59.300 Of course.

00:11:00.140 And that's just the, you know, I find that we're constantly in this war of definitions, right?

00:11:04.340 If you can fundamentally disrupt, you know, the understanding of a word's meaning from there, everything is fair game.

00:11:11.300 you can disrupt an entire culture or society uh i think by attacking definitions which is what you

00:11:16.760 know i don't want to go into this tangent but you see the left doing this pretty consistently when

00:11:20.360 it comes to like what is a woman what is a man if you can fundamentally disrupt the meaning of a word

00:11:24.640 we can't even have a meaningful dialogue and then from there everything is just in flux so uh yeah

00:11:30.160 it's just like the serpent said yeah he said oh you should not surely die

00:11:34.740 he's attacking that definition immediately yeah that's how that goes so so uh let's get into this

00:11:42.380 what do you think is a great place fundamentally to start with understanding biblical cosmology

00:11:47.700 or understanding that the nature of the the potentially flat plane that we're on yeah

00:11:53.320 genesis 1 tells you what this creation was tells you how the father designed it where we were made

00:11:59.040 on day six right so there's a whole bunch of stuff made before then so in day day one it says the

00:12:04.460 heavens and the earth were made and then you know the spirit of god hovered over the face of the

00:12:08.540 waters and a lot of people immediately start saying trying to fit a heliocentric cosmology

00:12:14.700 into that passage but verse six through eight gives you an immediate definition for what the

00:12:20.300 heaven is so verse six through eight just starts to say um let me see oh yeah you have a decent

00:12:27.880 translation that still is faithful to the word firmament and doesn't just translate it to sky

00:12:31.660 all the time like the esv and other modern translations they just translate to the sky

00:12:35.820 which is so deceptive because that's not what the actual hebrew word rakia means a solid stretched

00:12:41.880 out firmament structure like a solid structure even known by the hebrews as vaulted and so this

00:12:47.620 concept of the firmament is what verse 8 says was called the heaven so this is like the most

00:12:54.260 important aspect that people just completely overlook they don't take the bible they're not

00:12:58.180 reading genesis 1 seriously they just immediately read it and they're trying to put into their oh

00:13:03.660 when did these uh star nurseries uh happen in in celestial space right wow that's that's uh i just

00:13:10.580 want to point out for a second my translate because i'm retarded so i'm constantly trying like 0.71

00:13:15.320 my ability to read and my attention span is absolutely notoriously terrible and so i need 0.82

00:13:21.100 some sort of reduced child's version uh in order to get through the bible so that i can kind of

00:13:27.040 understand the overarching story but then go back and hopefully read something more complex in its

00:13:31.560 meaning and you know true to its definitions and yeah i'm using uh uh nlt i think is it nlt that

00:13:40.140 i have at home i use i use nasb and it says uh the expanse it's just it also says it says next

00:13:47.800 to it it gives you like a you know like a little circuit or firm yeah so i don't like the word

00:13:53.540 the word expanse comes from the greek which is stereoma and so which does also mean the same as

00:14:01.000 the hebrew rakia which means a solid structure supporting something above it so the the context

00:14:06.980 of genesis 1 1 through 8 is okay here the heavens and the earth were made plural heavens

00:14:11.720 and the earth singular was made and that's that comes up later in scripture because you start to

00:14:16.880 see the almighty lives at the heaven of the heavens the top heaven right there's multiple

00:14:22.140 layers of firmament that he made but the layer he made for us which encompasses the earth

00:14:27.280 which is what divided the waters from the waters right so imagine imagine a a bathtub and then you

00:14:36.180 put a bowl upside down inside of a full bathtub right so now there's water above the bowl and

00:14:41.080 below the bowl okay and then he's going to drain the water below the bowl so he can create dry land

00:14:47.240 and the atmosphere right this is like this is why that idea i was just reading uh the story of noah

00:14:54.400 to my kids and uh when they talk about the floodwaters coming in they say that like uh the

00:14:58.700 windows of heaven were open so that makes a lot of sense like if that this bowl is submerged in water

00:15:04.380 and you open up certain windows it would just completely flood it and it does say it talks

00:15:08.840 about waters from above and waters from below right that's yeah yeah that's yeah verses six

00:15:13.780 through 8 of genesis 1 but in genesis 7 11 which is the passage you're referencing um that's like

00:15:19.640 the kgv translations will say the the firmament the windows of the firmament were opened and by

00:15:24.740 the way that word the windows in the hebrew is is actually windows is kind of a modern translation

00:15:30.360 it's actually uh more accurately defined more like a dam sluice so like uh so like the lock gates on

00:15:36.980 a dam sure yeah yeah that's yeah that's fascinating yeah that's interesting too in its function

00:15:43.300 because they are made to articulate or to allow water flow for a time like in the case of you know

00:15:49.280 noah and the flood and then they're then shut again this is how they're actually described in

00:15:54.740 the book of enoch to create the some of the weather patterns is that they'll let water into

00:15:58.800 the atmosphere that will then create rain that's right that's right it's coming from high altitude

00:16:03.320 right so that's where it's going to dissipate as it is brought in just like you've seen a tall

00:16:08.480 waterfall by the time the water gets to the bottom it's already spreading out and turning into mist

00:16:12.840 right not all of it stays congealed so to speak in a strong stream of water right if it's high

00:16:19.060 enough the air friction will start to dissipate the water and it mists out so now imagine who

00:16:26.000 knows no one knows the height of the firmament according to scripture it can't be measured man

00:16:29.580 can't measure it so but imagine it's much greater than than 62 miles high it's going to disperse

00:16:35.420 out and create weather patterns do you once again not to derail or anything but do you think that

00:16:41.340 when people are seeing these SpaceX launches and you're watching these these craft.

00:16:47.560 I've seen one ding off the firmament.

00:16:50.120 That's what it looks like.

00:16:51.000 It went up and blew up like it was going at an angle sort of and it blew up right.

00:16:55.440 You could see it in Florida.

00:16:56.380 I've seen comparisons of a top down view of a speedboat on the ocean or on a lake.

00:17:03.140 And the way that the water reacts to the presence of the speedboat moving through it

00:17:06.920 is very much the same sort of phenomenon that you see happening around the craft because it creates

00:17:12.340 this giant almost like a borealis effect uh you see the videos famously of spacex launches and

00:17:18.380 they're the only ones that seem to be accompanied by this magnificent light show that happens around

00:17:24.300 it but it's not really so much light as it is it looks like it's moving through some sort of a

00:17:30.080 medium and that medium is parting and going around it and it's it's you could see you know

00:17:36.040 different coloration in it as if it was the crest of waves where they turn white as something moves

00:17:43.480 through it. Do you think that that's, I mean, obviously this is just speculation, but what do

00:17:47.800 you make when you see that? You want to know what my evenings actually look like during back to

00:17:52.380 school? The kids are overtired, there are homework questions, the dog's begging for a walk, and

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00:19:50.900 that constantly rise right so many of these uh what's considered noble gases are considered

00:19:55.920 lighter than air this is something that we can test and demonstrate right so i'm not anti-science

00:20:00.380 right i'm anti-stupidity right so science should be like something you can actually test and

00:20:05.280 demonstrate not just some dude says well this is the way it is believe me like we okay well you've

00:20:10.160 never been five quintillion light years to a star to know how far it is you're just guessing from

00:20:15.840 redshift blue shift from you're just guessing because you're looking from your point of

00:20:19.820 observation you truly don't you haven't measured the distance right so science does this in a

00:20:25.220 scientists in different fields of science do this in a variety of ways well they'll they'll say oh

00:20:31.540 well this is just they have a hypothesis and they think they can reach certain parameters within

00:20:38.220 to confirm their hypothesis but if they can't many times they'll still continue to push their

00:20:43.400 hypothesis but the average person doesn't fact check them because you know we got lives to live

00:20:48.340 and we're not we're not right in that field right so this this is what relativity is relative

00:20:54.720 relative gravity this is what relative this is why newtonian gravity didn't work so they had to

00:20:58.460 come up with relativity to try to explain things and people don't realize that relativity still

00:21:01.800 doesn't explain things according to heliocentron model but they just pushed it anyway okay so in

00:21:07.020 regards to all right well what is what is happening with spacex going up what are we seeing i don't

00:21:12.240 think they're actually hitting the waters above as the bible describes because the ferment literally

00:21:16.140 encloses us and supports those waters above the ferments. So the ferments described by definition

00:21:21.520 as a solid structure, right? What are they hitting? I think they're hitting the collection of gases

00:21:27.420 that rise continually that are lighter than gravity, lighter than the downward pool that

00:21:31.600 are constant, the neon, the argon, the nitrogen, you know, our atmosphere is 79% nitrogen. It's

00:21:36.900 only like 20 to 21% oxygen. So there's all these other, um, nitrogen is, you know,

00:21:42.720 often representative to burn green by the way like so but it's lighter than air just like you

00:21:50.180 let nitrogen out of a out of a test tube it's just going to float up like if you put some sort

00:21:54.260 of dye in the nitrogen so people could see its actual gaseous state it's just going to float up

00:21:59.740 it's not going to just hang out with us right like oxygen does so it just floats up it goes higher so

00:22:04.500 that there is a constant ecological structure or excuse me a flow within the structure that we live

00:22:09.760 that the father created for us to have the breathable atmosphere that we have for us to

00:22:14.340 for us to have atmospheric pressure what we would call barometric pressure right just like you go

00:22:19.920 deep down into the ocean the weight of the water on top of you the deeper you get causes the

00:22:24.260 barometric pressure to be greater right you're in a bad sub boom you're dead or you go lighter

00:22:31.800 and their gas the gases in your body which are contained by your body have a barometric pressure

00:22:36.840 that matches the gases and the pressure of the water around you that's why we were built to not

00:22:42.320 live underwater with all that extra pressure we were built to live in a pressurized atmosphere

00:22:48.060 suited for us outside the water on the land okay so this is why in day four he's he's uh well excuse

00:22:54.860 me day three he causes the waters to recede from under the firmament to allow the mountains to

00:22:59.620 appear the land to appear and starts creating the topography the land with the skies for the birds

00:23:04.880 to fly in, the land animals to fly in, the oceans to team with life in day five. And we're created

00:23:10.660 last because the conditions for us to live in had to be created first. Right, right. Effectively,

00:23:17.520 it wasn't ready yet. Right. So you need all of this biological life and all of these particular

00:23:23.880 circumstances to create the atmosphere that we could exist in. I can see what you're saying.

00:23:28.840 And the order in which things are done in Genesis makes a ton of sense through that lens.

00:23:34.240 So the Genesis order of creation is the opposite of what the modern heliocentric scientific model says.

00:23:40.260 That is also fascinating because a lot of these things about, let's say, Ball Earth or the globe are seemingly the direct, indirect opposition specifically to the Bible.

00:23:52.360 Right. It almost seems like that's the point. In fact, everything that I'm looking at suggests that is the point.

00:23:58.200 Right. If you have this is the point.

00:23:59.600 Yes, if you have this idea of like the Big Bang and, you know, all matter in the universe burst forth from this moment and evolution takes place on this rock because the circumstances are just right to kind of eventually create, you know, some upright standing hominid. 0.61

00:24:14.440 If you look at everything that they're saying about, you know, the origins of Earth, how it all came to be, it all stands in stark contradiction to the biblical creation. 0.87

00:24:25.440 It 100% does.

00:24:26.720 yeah in fact i mean just just the fact that from the very first day day one is as god created the

00:24:33.100 heavens plural and the earth now the earth was unformed so imagine a big you know thing of of

00:24:38.380 dirt at the bottom of a of a container of water right that's unformed yet and that's why he then

00:24:45.160 encloses that recedes the water starts forming the land right and the rivers and the seas and

00:24:51.020 everything and then starts putting life into it but that means there's still heavens above

00:24:55.940 that were already created and so this is where you know i i'm people give me a hard time because i

00:25:02.440 often uh try to remind people about how we got our bibles and that the the bible's not just 66

00:25:08.560 books got there was no angel from heaven that showed up and said oh by the way these little

00:25:12.620 book these this collection right here is the one that got approved in heaven this is it right that

00:25:16.860 never happened it was just a groups of men who had access to different manuscripts that started

00:25:21.480 collecting them and deciding which ones they liked and didn't like but then other groups of

00:25:26.100 christians in other regions that were less popular in the west uh that that didn't go from the council

00:25:33.480 of cartridges to uh to trula or to uh trent uh basically where we've inherited catholic tradition

00:25:39.840 in the u.s when it comes to different christian traditions as also how we formed our bible we

00:25:46.180 inherited the catholic tradition of how they got their bible okay not the eastern orthodox not the

00:25:50.960 oriental orthodox not the assyrian you know so they have different bibles throughout time right

00:25:56.740 and so in the ethiopian orthodox and in the 15th century bible created by the armenians

00:26:03.400 in the armenian orthodox they included other ancient jewish literature that gives you much

00:26:10.780 more descriptive detail on the firmament like the book of venoch like jubilees like the testament

00:26:16.200 the 12 patriarchs like um uh the apocalypse of baruch where just directly like the apocalypse

00:26:21.840 baruch chapter 21 just directly tells you the firmament is a solid structure over you

00:26:26.720 it just right it doesn't it doesn't mince a lot of words it just like directly tells you like

00:26:31.680 the the firmament is solid right so how are you getting a rocket ship through solidity you don't

00:26:37.900 this is why they follow a curved trajectory and you're not allowed to chase them and see where

00:26:42.780 they see where they go that's an interesting thing too it's it's it's clearly a curved

00:26:47.220 trajectory but i've heard people argue it just appears that way from you know standing on the

00:26:53.680 surface of the earth and watching a rocket launch um but i i don't i don't buy that i mean i've

00:26:58.660 watched plenty of things go i sure i guess i've never seen anything go as high up as a rocket

00:27:03.840 launch but when something goes up in the air it's quite evident that it's going up in a straight

00:27:08.420 line, but these rocket launches will curve and arc and you'll watch them travel across

00:27:13.660 the sky.

00:27:14.420 And it's very strange because this is one of these things where the scientific community,

00:27:19.140 you know, as far as trust the experts goes, does require a great deal of faith, right?

00:27:24.800 We talk on this show often about how worship is built within us.

00:27:29.480 We're going to worship something and it's just a matter of what that thing is.

00:27:34.480 And if you're not aiming that towards God, then something else is a recipient of that

00:27:37.440 worship.

00:27:37.780 and you know the new age talks about where attention goes energy flows if you're a big

00:27:42.780 let's say nasa guy or trust the science guy or whatever you are effectively worshiping

00:27:48.620 specifically in the sense of you're having faith in that industry because there's no way to test

00:27:53.740 these things yourself and even if they are testable nobody's going through it at all

00:27:57.220 we're just taking these words as as you know gospel if you will uh on so much of the most

00:28:02.260 important aspects of our lives these aren't things that anybody i always say that by any

00:28:07.660 measure that you have accessible to you as an individual, the world is flat. As far as your

00:28:14.280 senses go, what you see with your eyes, what you feel as you're traveling around, everything is

00:28:20.120 flat. You're just taking an industry or an institution's word, which is a form of faith.

00:28:26.680 It's blind faith in that particular instance, because none of this is testable.

00:28:30.940 Well, what's interesting is within the government, there is the space industry,

00:28:34.280 but then there's also the military industrial complex which takes a completely different

00:28:38.820 approach than the space industry claims so whenever you look up the unredacted publicly

00:28:44.440 available documents from the military in the like the 60s and 70s there's people have even found

00:28:51.880 Russian documents and how they were creating airplanes in the 50s and 60s and rocketry

00:28:57.800 building rockets and missiles all of it assumes a flat non-rotating stationary earth that the 0.58

00:29:03.520 objects are flying over so for the sake of war and the money that's associated with war

00:29:08.840 right all the think about all the companies that depend on this specific type of um understanding

00:29:15.140 the the relational position of the earth with how their rockets are flying so they can have accurate

00:29:20.460 gps so they can maintain flight coordinates at supersonic speeds none of them calculate for

00:29:27.420 curvature on a ball earth with a four with a 4 000 mile radius none of them we we had this

00:29:33.400 discussion go ahead no that's like yeah we want to get something done they're not doing like we're

00:29:37.460 not going to be hiring uh diversity hires for this yeah exactly we're actually serious about 0.99

00:29:42.720 killing these palestinian children so we can't have any ball model earth trajectory going these 1.00

00:29:47.860 bombs need to be accurate sir uh you want to know what my evenings actually look like during back 1.00

00:29:52.360 to school the kids are overtired there are homework questions the dog's begging for a walk

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00:31:49.380 We had a discussion on stage with Benis the Menace, Ben of Benis the Menace, and he is a staunch globe earther, and he maintains that there were plenty of pagan civilizations who had a flat realm with a dome over it.

00:32:08.700 Maybe he didn't toss in the dome part.

00:32:10.920 I don't want to misrepresent.

00:32:12.400 I like Ben.

00:32:12.940 I don't want to kind of mince his words here.

00:32:14.520 But he more or less said this idea that this was already a belief system before Moses was around.

00:32:22.880 And so this sort of thing just got integrated.

00:32:25.660 But I wonder how that argument stands up to the idea that the tabernacle would have been built as a two scale or maybe I'm using that phrase wrong, miniaturized version of the firmament.

00:32:40.360 Is my understanding correct in that?

00:32:43.660 That's theorized because the firmament, according to ancient Israelite literature, is seven layers, not just one or two or three.

00:32:52.580 In Judaism's tradition, they argue between seven and three,

00:32:56.020 and I think most people just reference some of the rabbis who quoted three

00:32:58.780 because they also think that's what Paul's referring to in 2 Corinthians 12.

00:33:03.840 But that's not the fullness of their writings and understandings on the firmament

00:33:07.500 where I put something in the studio.

00:33:09.280 I'm just going to repel this argument about, oh, this only came up with Moses,

00:33:13.720 and he was just either plagiarizing or inventing things.

00:33:17.300 So Job, not Moses, Job, right?

00:33:20.640 He's also called in the vault of heaven in 22, 14, right?

00:33:23.580 Ezra 5th century BC, Ezra high priest and prophet of Israel.

00:33:29.220 He stretched out the heaven, like a vaulted ceiling.

00:33:31.580 And then second Ezra is 16 Ecclesiasticus, which would be also the book of

00:33:35.700 Sirach, uh, chapter 24, verse five alone.

00:33:39.360 I encompass, I compassed the vault of heaven and traverse the depths of the

00:33:42.820 sea.

00:33:43.400 The word compassed is a descriptor of something that goes around in a

00:33:47.040 circle compass, right?

00:33:49.080 Right.

00:33:49.320 The vault of heaven.

00:33:50.100 so we do have descriptions of this genesis obviously even some translations of genesis

00:33:55.720 in modernity still call it the vaulted dome right so this isn't just about what's the writings that

00:34:01.280 are attributed to moses and of course enoch which is way before moses enoch is up there explaining

00:34:07.440 in great depth the layers of the ferment where how the the positions of the angels within this

00:34:12.040 massive structure and how they're affecting the weather um how weather it happens i should say on

00:34:16.780 the earth so imagine just within the the affirmant that encloses us and there is 12 gateways which

00:34:24.740 the the technique the the wording in the book of you not calls it portals but just imagine like a

00:34:29.800 doorway right right but there's 12 doorways at each cardinal direction three three in the north

00:34:35.400 three in the east three in the west three in the south and then angels are in charge of those

00:34:39.480 those doorways that allow different winds and for the different times of the year the different

00:34:43.760 seasons whether there's a tempest a storm a hurricane or whether there's pleasant pleasant

00:34:48.600 atmosphere pleasant weather uh do rain and due season so like in the in the promises of the

00:34:53.820 bible when Yahweh tells the Israelites in Deuteronomy 28 if you obey me I will give you all these

00:34:58.580 blessings and he keeps constantly saying this statement that sounds like it's kind of like

00:35:03.140 you know like what it's not really a that's not really an enticing promise to say you'll give me

00:35:08.980 rain in due season until you understand that he made the system you're living in so that's why

00:35:16.740 the curse of the covenant like if you reject the the behavior the the creator expects of you he

00:35:22.700 says i will withhold rain from your land and we even see this repeated in zechariah 14 in a millennial

00:35:29.100 rain context any of the nations that are that are required to come up to jerusalem for the feast of

00:35:35.080 tabernacles if they don't they're not going to get any rain man that's it's huge because it turns

00:35:39.960 it turns it away from um you know let's say you were atheist and you're looking in from the outside

00:35:45.180 and you're saying god god's just magic and he just moves things around it's like actually there's a

00:35:49.700 system that is present that was created it was engineered it was created and that system has a

00:35:57.640 very logical mechanism at work that allows for the introduction of different weather fronts

00:36:03.420 effectively right i mean that's what we're talking about if the weather channel is talking

00:36:06.520 about a cold front approaching from the east meeting a warm front created well that wind

00:36:11.060 from the east is facilitated that in this instance by the opening of a portal and and the allowing of

00:36:17.420 you know waters from above to enter this system and create a front that so it there is like it

00:36:24.420 becomes layers of uh appropriate logistics that are suddenly applied to the system yeah no it's

00:36:32.720 it's actually uh coherent and logical engineering that's being described in scripture for

00:36:38.180 the creation model it it's not just a randomness purposeless oh your result of a big bang and then

00:36:44.360 your rock cooled and somehow gases started happening from within your rock to create

00:36:48.500 some sort of microbiology on the land and and then that mutated which is the opposite of the

00:36:54.520 word mutation speaking of definitions right so the concept of evolution ignores the actual

00:37:00.420 definition mutation it makes up a new one you don't gain information when you mutate something

00:37:04.340 you lose it but they say oh it evolved because it mutated into something more complex well that's

00:37:09.140 the opposite of what mutation is i kind of love that too because human beings you know we're

00:37:14.200 saying this is all random and this is how it happens and and we end up on this ball where

00:37:18.460 all of this uh weather is happening and the perfect conditions for us and you know have 0.93

00:37:23.880 agriculture and everything and god's like i just opened this window bitch and it comes in from the 0.96

00:37:29.000 east and if i want to do this and open up this window it's going to come from the northwest 0.95

00:37:33.200 uh and that's how that happens we're just making up a bunch of shit so basically imagine um

00:37:40.720 you know what does hebrews 11 say that abraham looked for a city whose architect and builder

00:37:48.940 is god so scripture is like directly calling god an architect and a builder right but yet

00:37:54.960 the world tells us oh where you live wasn't built with intentionality there was no architectural

00:37:59.560 plan it's just a random ball and an insignificant part of a universe and that your son's going to go

00:38:05.020 supernova in 200 000 years anyway you're all dead the whole helicentric cosmic concept is nothing

00:38:10.880 but fear fear it's doom yes yes yeah yeah because if it was all created randomly and the the elements

00:38:20.460 that were necessary to create life on earth

00:38:23.160 and sentient, intelligent life on earth

00:38:25.140 were all a series of random dominoes.

00:38:27.580 It shows you, or at least it's convincing you

00:38:31.740 that like, man, if anything,

00:38:34.200 if any of those steps didn't go right, we're not here,

00:38:37.380 which then suddenly speaks to the fragility of our existence.

00:38:40.980 And at any moment, Apophis can show up on the horizon

00:38:43.920 and wipe everything out and this will never happen again.

00:38:46.920 And it's all meaningless.

00:38:47.840 So it does, it creates this fragility,

00:38:49.980 whereas if this is well that's like the psyop of uh nuclear bombs right it's it's yes creating

00:38:55.280 this mental fragility and in our minds where it's like this could all be over in the push of a

00:38:59.780 button right i don't know if you guys have that kind of power to do that but then what's the

00:39:03.920 bible saying it's like if god is with you can be against me god holds us in the palm of his hand

00:39:08.220 he goes before us and prepares the way like there is real um you know solidity in god and then this

00:39:16.160 other thing is like who the hell knows dude yeah i mean that's what is it genesis chapter 8 i believe

00:39:23.720 at the end of genesis chapter 8 where noah's off the boat and he's doing the sacrifice and he says

00:39:27.820 god says to him as as long as seed time and harvest is happening you know he gives that

00:39:34.080 little promise there you're right after get shows on the rainbow is that i'll never flood the earth

00:39:38.060 again right and then later in jeremiah he says that uh the sun moon and stars which actually

00:39:43.560 parallels enoch 41 by the way and in jeremiah god says to jeremiah if you could break the covenant

00:39:50.820 that i've made with the sun and the moon then israel would not be a nation before me right

00:39:56.660 obviously the context of this is about the restoration of israel of the future with the

00:40:01.780 second coming of christ but the idea is god has already said the sun moon and stars and the heaven

00:40:07.660 itself are eternal they're not going away it's what he made and he said it was good from the

00:40:11.560 start it ain't going away yeah there's not a giant space rock going to come and wipe us all out but

00:40:16.200 they love doing that there's a constant in it by the way that is what the enemy uses right so i

00:40:21.920 once again not to derail the conversation too far but we talk very often on the show about the whole

00:40:27.260 alien abduction phenomenon and how historically speaking abductees are often given some doomsday

00:40:33.020 prophecy about uh you know some sort of massive tidal wave that's going to wipe things out

00:40:37.960 a polar shift where the magnetic poles are going to, you know, swap up and that's going to cause

00:40:43.180 the entire planet to go into some sort of constant state of calamity, nuclear, mutually assured

00:40:49.000 nuclear destruction. Over and over again, they have some horror story about the finality of

00:40:55.540 humanity and that if if they're chosen special people that they're probing their anuses and

00:41:01.560 tormenting them and stealing them from their beds at night, don't go forth and evangelize on behalf

00:41:06.180 of this new gospel, that this thing will come to pass. And so they burden them with great

00:41:11.620 responsibility. They convince them that they're special, even though they're victims to some

00:41:15.240 demonic ploy. And they tell them that the world is in this fragile state and some great thing is

00:41:21.540 coming and it will destroy everything unless they go forward. So everything is the exact opposite,

00:41:26.600 which by the way, even the alien thing has to, it plays in with NASA, with globe earth. It doesn't

00:41:34.100 play at all with the biblical cosmology not not well at all i mean it does when you're talking

00:41:39.740 about waters below right i was going to ask about the the structure of this thing like where

00:41:45.700 specifically and exactly do the heavens begin so we have a firm yeah i'm sorry i i mean i didn't

00:41:53.740 realize you're an asses but i already put that graphic there in the studio that that accompanies

00:41:57.680 what we're going to say so prophet seventh from adam called a prophet by jude taught christ taught 0.99

00:42:04.620 things first peter teaches things only found in enoch no one no other biblical author dispels

00:42:11.540 enoch they knew a scripture even up until the fourth century eusebius church historian is

00:42:17.800 calling enoch valid information um specifically when it comes to the creation by the way because

00:42:22.740 That's how they determined Passover, even up until the 4th century.

00:42:26.100 So Enoch, chapter 33, says that he saw the ends of the heaven whereon the heaven rests. 0.56

00:42:33.880 So we already have Isaiah 40, 22, that Yahweh sits above the circle of the earth.

00:42:39.400 Now we already had the other graphic we put up about Job 22, 14, the vault of heaven that encompasses the earth.

00:42:48.180 All the different passages that talk about it being a vault of heaven that encompasses the earth.

00:42:51.840 so we have a description of shape function and here we have locational concepts where enoch is

00:42:58.400 claiming he saw the ends of the earth where the heaven rests so that heaven is actually sitting

00:43:02.960 on the earth so this this will make a lot more sense top when you get to the point where like

00:43:07.580 christ is saying in matthew 24 verse 29 and 30 about the heavens the powers of the heavens are

00:43:13.880 shaken on the on his second coming and this just so coincides in revelation 16 with an incredible

00:43:20.440 earthquake that destroys all the cities of the nations so if you're messing with the thing that

00:43:25.880 is sitting on the earth encompassing the earth now you're opening up like a scroll so you can

00:43:30.040 come down to fight the battle of armageddon on the day of the lord yeah there's going to be

00:43:34.260 massive earthquakes happening all across the earth you want to know what my evenings actually

00:43:39.800 look like during back to school the kids are overtired there are homework questions the dog's

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00:45:38.700 That's fascinating.

00:45:39.660 um where so and then i got another graphic that gives you more of a a blueprint sketch okay

00:45:45.960 and this one you might like this one too so this one is something that a buddy put together that

00:45:55.260 my co-host for the show on coming ground where it just tries to show you the seven layers

00:45:59.880 shield beneath tartarus that type of thing um the the concept of it having a foundation

00:46:05.540 no the bible doesn't describe anything beyond the seventh layer the seventh heaven the most the

00:46:10.880 heaven of heavens where the throne of the most high is so i just just speculation at that point

00:46:15.400 right but what we do know is there's not this vast openness of space in between the firmament

00:46:20.120 layers like they're filled with purpose and intentionality and this is a depiction that's

00:46:25.600 put together from the variety of scriptures um where it shows a circle of earth enclosed by a

00:46:31.580 with water still above by the way so this is where in revelation 21 1 through 2 and it says

00:46:39.080 saw new heaven new earth and there was no more sea that's to see it's referencing because he's

00:46:43.440 looking up in that vision where he's seeing the new jerusalem coming down out of the heaven right

00:46:48.060 he's seeing it the word earth by the way is is a poor greek translation it should just say land

00:46:52.720 he saw a new heaven and that word new is in the greek is a word kynos which means re-innovated

00:46:59.140 not that it's never existed before that would be the greek word neos but in revelation 21 when when

00:47:04.520 john is seeing the vision of the new jerusalem coming down out of heaven he says i saw a kynos

00:47:08.540 a refashioned or re-innovated or made better heaven and a made better piece of land coming

00:47:14.720 down out of the sky because the ferment has to be rolled open for the house of god to come down

00:47:19.720 and set on the earth and the sea that's in between is going to be subsided removed something's going

00:47:24.980 happen to it now that we also have another testimony in the member i told you earlier

00:47:29.400 about the different canons across the world throughout history yeah um in the armenian

00:47:34.460 canon which is uh also found amongst the dead sea scrolls there's a book called the testament

00:47:38.940 of levi it's a part of a greater collection called the testament of 12 patriarchs and in

00:47:43.220 the testament of levi chapter 2 and 3 it starts going through the different layers of the firmament

00:47:46.860 and describing like what's happening in each layer and this also matches the descriptions

00:47:51.460 and revelation five and job job 38 and a whole bunch of other places so this is where in the

00:47:57.520 multiple layers you have places where the angels hang out like you have different realms of angels

00:48:03.500 who have different levels of authority so in colossians chapter one and ephesians i think

00:48:09.160 it's chapter four paul makes reference to the powers and principalities of the heavens you guys

00:48:15.380 remember the statements that's what he's referencing okay now when you get to ephesians

00:48:22.260 chapter six paul starts referencing the evil wicked spiritual principalities the ones we're

00:48:28.480 fighting against right we've we better not flesh and blood but the wickedness in high places right

00:48:32.760 ephesians chapter 6 10 through 12 and that's where he uses a very specific greek word that's often

00:48:38.960 generically translated in english as the word powers this word's called the cosmos kratos and

00:48:44.600 this is this describes between the earth and the moon that space so under the firmament between the

00:48:51.260 earth and under the firmament that space we would just call the sky where the clouds are that's the

00:48:56.440 place where the the demons we've already talked about this in previous episodes right when we

00:48:59.840 talk about the manas and things like that where is actually satan where is why is it called wickedness

00:49:04.620 in high places why why did they go up to the highest mountain they could find to build

00:49:08.140 offer incense to Baal because they thought

00:49:10.280 they were closer to Baal.

00:49:13.720 Their storm 0.95

00:49:14.540 god who lived in the clouds, who lived

00:49:16.360 in the sky. Zeus, who lived in the sky.

00:49:18.560 Ra, who floats in the boat of a million years

00:49:20.500 through the sky. So this is where

00:49:22.400 scripture also

00:49:24.300 confirms that very idea that

00:49:25.860 the evil Satan and his minions

00:49:28.480 they

00:49:30.460 have a sense of an abode in the

00:49:32.460 sky. So

00:49:34.240 below the ferment and above us.

00:49:36.800 When you pair that with

00:49:37.980 once again i mean i know i keep going here yeah i love this this graph i'm sorry it's gangster too

00:49:43.740 because it shows like this unbelievable uh that's the exact question i was asking yeah i was like

00:49:48.640 well where's the water where's the sun where's the moon there it is boom boom there's new jerusalem

00:49:53.040 and then the other layers of heaven as well um do you this is why you see the stars behind the sun

00:49:58.540 and moon because they're at a different ferment level above the sun and moon yeah they're in their

00:50:02.900 own uh atmosphere yeah that is and that would make that make would make a ton of sense as well

00:50:08.640 as like as we look at it like how would we be able to perceive where or what this stuff is unless it

00:50:14.320 is layered behind things right and we can't tell the dimensionality um we we did an episode this

00:50:20.240 is going to sound kind of stupid but uh very early in in this show we did an episode with uh these

00:50:25.880 guys i forget their names they're like cryptid dudes oh oh uh cryptids of the corn at the corn 0.95

00:50:31.420 And we were talking about the possibility of different kind of organic living matter that is alive in the upper atmosphere of the earth, but not in the heavens, I suppose.

00:50:44.580 Yeah, and they cited a bunch of instances where there was like a manna from heaven sort of situation where, I forget what year it was, but chunks of meat mysteriously rained from the sky and that there's this precedent for upper atmospheric, almost jellyfish-like entities, creatures that exist up there.

00:51:05.400 They're biologics and even made this argument that there could be enough.

00:51:09.480 So it's like below the waters, but way above what we can actually get to.

00:51:14.200 But when Sean is saying that that is what scripture says, that's where Satan and his

00:51:18.220 armies are, you know, that these entities exist in this layer of the firmament, once

00:51:23.600 again, that just pairs with this UFO phenomenon, right?

00:51:26.800 Like these light beings that seem to be non-physical sometimes, they almost seem to be like a plasma

00:51:32.620 that can shapeshift and appear as one thing and move at rates that defy, you know, physics.

00:51:38.860 And I know a lot of this is sort of like back engineered technology that we're not aware of.

00:51:44.480 And but I do think there's space in the conversation for something that seems to exist on almost a spectrum of light, like a physical light.

00:51:52.900 And then what you're saying where they exist, I'm wondering, is there some real correlation between those beings and what people are perceiving as UFOs?

00:52:04.200 Yeah, that that would be the UFOs.

00:52:06.240 I don't know. I can't tell you their schematics for how they create what they create, but that would be the UFO phenomenon as it's packaged to us. That's the biblical concept is that, oh, by the way, remember when Satan gets control of these unclean demons, he's disembodied Nephilim. Well, where do they live? Where do they hang out? No Christian ever seems to ask this stuff. Where do they hang out?

00:52:33.440 right right and some yeah some pastors just say well you know first peter says satan's a roman

00:52:38.920 lions just seeking roman the earth seeking him may devour so he's on the earth somewhere okay

00:52:42.980 where does he got a he had a castle in transylvania where is he where is he is he right

00:52:48.860 is he got some kind of big bunker under under the white house like where where is the devil is he if

00:52:54.560 you believe he's a real entity that spoke with jesus right then then this is a real spiritual

00:53:00.160 being, by the way, that can do all those things that you described, by the way. It's the description

00:53:04.620 of spiritual beings, right? They have this increased ability within the creation to do

00:53:08.720 stuff we can't. And so that's where I would suggest the Bible's been telling us this whole

00:53:13.780 time where he is, and it matches the historical records from other nations, which is Revelation

00:53:17.960 12. He's in that cosmos kratos. He's up there. This is why when Michael stands up on behalf of

00:53:22.340 his people, and they're in Revelation 12, 7 through 10, Michael fights Satan. Satan's kicked

00:53:29.160 down to the earth and there's no longer a place found for satan and his messengers it's loosely

00:53:35.680 translated as angels but that word angels doesn't always mean good angels okay right so that's where

00:53:42.680 he's it tells you where he is he's currently there until he gets kicked down to the earth and then

00:53:46.940 he's woe into the earth for satan's come down to you full of fury and wrath then he only has 42

00:53:50.980 months to try to get his fury and wrath out on the earth before christ returns so he we know where he

00:53:56.480 is the bible's been telling us this whole time we know where where unclean spirits hang out so to

00:54:01.480 speak these wickedness in high places so it's interesting that they say high places too right

00:54:06.380 like like physically yeah physically high places yeah yeah yeah it's funny because the the ufo

00:54:12.080 phenomenon just continues to uh reveal itself as a demonic deception and i think what you're

00:54:18.400 talking about is exactly why people who use that kind of ce5 binaural beats like a hemi syncing

00:54:23.820 app i think it was popularized by steven greer sure they're able to call somehow uh into you

00:54:31.640 know the view of other onlookers orbs from the sky i mean it's a lot of testimony that suggests

00:54:37.120 that this is relatively reliable this process they'll go through the ce5 app then orbs will

00:54:41.980 appear to them but also what's less reported on but still very prevalent is they will have

00:54:47.640 poltergeist activity demonic encounters sleep paralysis all these other things it's because

00:54:51.820 it's the same phenomenon it's the same phenomenon you're looking at different aspects of the same

00:54:55.940 phenomenon yeah yeah and the ancient cultures i mean they talked about the star beings coming

00:55:02.040 down from heaven they talked about you know they're doing cave drawings of them uh they had

00:55:06.040 to they talk about like on our previous discussions i tried to bring some receipts to show you the

00:55:10.680 ancient testimony about in india to ancient persia to the yeah to the greeks like they all talked

00:55:17.560 about the gods coming down from the sky and interacting with them at different points and

00:55:21.660 then over time that went away and there's a whole that's a whole nother discussion as far as why

00:55:26.500 they changed their tactic and um i think it's because christ showed up and they and now like

00:55:31.060 there's a whole different parameter they've got a whole bunch of different things they have to do

00:55:36.380 to deceive mankind because the holy christ now can just drop the holy spirit on you

00:55:40.760 and bring you the wisdom of god or bring you to repentance and just shake up the game in a way

00:55:46.220 that we never had before okay so we have increased access to the wisdom of god that dispels the lies

00:55:53.280 of the enemy and so that sounds like a platitude statement but it works its way physically into

00:55:59.320 our culture and how we interact with how the cultures interacted with false gods but essentially

00:56:04.920 all the ancient cultures believed in affirmament and so as you're talking with other people that

00:56:09.900 are in the quote-unquote flat earth realm the flat earth community if you will um i don't really

00:56:16.680 refer myself as a flat earth but because i think it's a misnomer i think it kind of gives people

00:56:21.240 the depiction that you see when you look it up on google you see like a turtle with a piece of land

00:56:25.480 on it and some in space with water falling off this the disc of the land in space that's all

00:56:30.960 just a psyop that's all just to mock the concept to think oh that's ridiculous that's that doesn't

00:56:36.200 look like actual architecture and engineering that could be viable that's ridiculous and yes

00:56:40.440 those depictions are ridiculous where you see like the planets like the sun and then all the planets

00:56:45.080 you know from like venus to neptune in a line and then you see instead of the planet earth it's just

00:56:50.200 a circle of of earth with water falling off of it right yeah right that's intended like the bible

00:56:54.860 doesn't describe the whole setting that picture is intended to mock which is space the bible

00:57:00.260 doesn't describe a sun that's a million times bigger than the earth you know those models that

00:57:07.300 show the solar system wheeling through space with the sun uh also you know we're wheeling around the

00:57:15.480 sun the solar system is is wheeling amongst itself and then that whole system itself is doing some

00:57:21.620 other kind of you know figure eight as it's moving through uh space at thousands and thousands of

00:57:27.120 miles per hour is equally as insane it's strange how we'll buy one thing but we won't uh we won't

00:57:34.380 buy the other you know and i wonder what you make of the idea so like i said going back to what ben

00:57:38.840 had mentioned that pagans for the longest time beforehand had this idea of realms if you look

00:57:44.060 into norse mythology there's uh i believe it's called idrasil the world tree where the the roots

00:57:49.820 and the trunk of the tree and the branches they all pass through uh multiple realms and they hold

00:57:56.000 it all together. And I think in some instances, there is a sort of a firmament. And so it seems

00:58:01.560 like not the exact same thing that you've shown us here, not what the Bible is describing, but

00:58:07.380 almost like close, close, but no cigar, much closer than the globe model. What do you think

00:58:15.260 is going on there where pagan mythologies are routinely having a flat realm with realms layered

00:58:21.000 on top of it yeah remember according to the biblical account everyone came from noah right

00:58:26.660 off the boat right so there are no one knew exactly what this creation was like he's the

00:58:30.780 grandson of enoch enoch got the full tour with all the working how it works with the sun moon

00:58:36.380 stars with the weather and everything involved like so he knows exactly like that that information

00:58:41.560 i mean literally the collections we have today of what's called first enoch is the compilation

00:58:46.840 of Enoch and Noah's writings so no one knew what's going on he gets off the boat he's telling his

00:58:54.960 boys the truth right but then so as they you know spread out and start repopulating the earth

00:59:01.480 and abandoning faith in God well they're still going to have remnants of of truth that they

00:59:07.080 then start mixing with the lies so in the same way like why why would the the nations that don't

00:59:12.460 serve Yahweh why would they ever build a temple to their gods where'd they get that idea that why

00:59:20.740 right just okay just just sacrifice it under a tree like or or who knew who needs any requirements 0.70

00:59:29.020 to sacrifice to a god why do you have a priesthood to false gods where'd you get that idea

00:59:33.900 why doesn't just every man do it for himself because these are institutional concepts that

00:59:40.380 were already taught and understood noah was a priest by the way abraham was a priest

00:59:43.900 jesus 26 5 in the hebrew tells you that the charge that abraham kept that's a word for the

00:59:48.760 priesthood the office of priesthood and neighbor right so this is where we see like and of course

00:59:53.240 you know enoch was a priest he's called a scribe of righteousness a scribe is a job of a priest

00:59:58.620 right so like the the concept of the priesthood was always there so the concept of like oh we

01:00:05.420 needed like the melchizedek in genesis 14 that abram goes to see well the book of jubilees

01:00:10.620 actually explains to you with greater depth that there was an actual priesthood there which is

01:00:13.800 more consistent with the melchizedek priesthood and not just a single one-off guy it's a priesthood

01:00:19.160 and they have a building the testament of issachar tells you that when when rachel took the mandrakes

01:00:26.080 from leah's son from reuben so she could she could have them and then genesis is very vague

01:00:31.180 him what happens with the mandrakes. Well, then Rachel takes the mandrakes and offers them as a

01:00:35.500 first fruit offering at the temple where the priest of God was serving in her day to God.

01:00:41.720 And that's why he heard her prayer and opened her womb to have Joseph.

01:00:46.060 A lot of what we see, especially in the occult or pagan ideologies, is a co-opting of biblical

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01:03:00.380 I was much more of the conspiratorial mind without God for much of my life. And then I realized that

01:03:07.280 the biblical framework is the appropriate framework that Jesus Christ was Jesus Christ is real. And so

01:03:12.320 that altered the way that I was perceiving conspiracy. And one of the ways that that

01:03:18.480 changed was so much of what we see, whether it's symbolism or practices in the occult that we would

01:03:26.480 immediately label demonic or Luciferian, they don't create anything. They've only taken God's

01:03:32.340 principles and inverted them and twisted them. And so you will see so many of these elements,

01:03:37.640 what they're supposed to be like to glorify the Lord.

01:03:41.300 And instead, they're happening in this debaucherous way

01:03:44.280 to glorify some, you know, fallen angel.

01:03:46.520 But I notice that the cube symbolism, for example,

01:03:51.160 has been associated with Saturn

01:03:52.560 and the synagogue of Satan or Saturnian worship.

01:03:56.540 And of course, you have the hexagonal storm

01:03:58.820 on the pole of Saturn.

01:04:00.560 And, you know, all of this goes to Kronos.

01:04:03.020 And it is all very, it could be the star of Remfan.

01:04:05.480 And all of these things look evil on the surface. And so now the cube itself is a symbol of evil. But it's like New Jerusalem is being described in that image there. It is this great cube that descends from the sky. Right.

01:04:20.340 And so I just think that that's fascinating, because that is, you know, the kingdom of God. And they've taken the image that's associated with the dimensions of it, and they've inverted it and twisted it and turned it into something that when people see who are in the know, right, conspiracy theorists, truthers, whatever you want to call them, they recoil from it.

01:04:41.260 And it's like, no, dude, cubes are not inherently bad.

01:04:44.400 And in fact, all of these are things that God created that have been bastardized.

01:04:51.040 Yes.

01:04:51.420 Yeah.

01:04:51.920 The enemy can't create anything.

01:04:53.700 He just perverts what God's already done.

01:04:55.800 So you're exactly right. 0.84

01:04:57.280 In fact, speaking of New Jerusalem, what is this promise?

01:05:00.820 He saw the city coming down out of heaven.

01:05:04.600 You're welcome just to mute it if you want to, because it'll show the graphics on screen.

01:05:08.720 and i don't know if that music is gonna mess up with your copywriting us or whatever okay we'll

01:05:13.340 check this out all right but basically um so this concept of the new jerusalem that comes down out

01:05:19.580 of heaven is described as the dwelling place of yahweh the almighty revelation 21 verse 22 the

01:05:25.460 almighty and the lamb are there right so this is the the house of the almighty okay so yeah there's

01:05:32.400 that depiction of the sun yeah yeah hurdling through space yeah and this is real so this

01:05:40.700 this is what the new jerusalem would have to uh sync up with in order to get here and softly

01:05:47.240 descend to the earth as described in scripture yes yes yeah yeah yeah very difficult to land on

01:05:52.860 now that of course someone would say well god can do anything well

01:05:57.060 sure the god who can do anything can he also create a firmament that encloses the earth

01:06:00.540 yes very much so

01:06:03.160 this is where he starts getting into like the dimensions

01:06:06.420 right because you would

01:06:08.480 have to like drill into the earth in order for

01:06:10.400 it still to be level

01:06:11.420 yeah you would have the edges of this massive

01:06:14.540 cube still hovering

01:06:16.420 effectively right because due to the curvature of the

01:06:18.520 earth

01:06:18.760 yeah because it's approximately

01:06:22.220 you know roughly

01:06:24.120 roughly translated like 1400 plus miles

01:06:26.680 1380

01:06:28.760 by this calculation but

01:06:30.080 wow this graphic and for those people who are uh just listening we are watching a graphic that is

01:06:37.020 using uh you know accurate uh biblical descriptions of new jerusalem and basically the logistical

01:06:43.840 nightmare that it would be to try to land this uh 1380 mile cube uh on an earth that has you know

01:06:53.680 x amount of curvature per square mile that's very interesting yeah so they say that the global earth

01:07:00.880 has a radius of 4 000 miles okay with the circumference of approximately 25 000 miles

01:07:05.820 so if you took those measurements and you had something that sat down on the earth you would

01:07:12.580 have a gap because of the curvature the new jerusalem's edges would have a gap of 119 miles

01:07:18.560 height wow yeah that's quite tall and it would be teetering as well

01:07:28.300 well it's also going to knock the earth off its orbit sure if if it's a heliocentric model

01:07:35.540 because it's massive weight it's going to be we're going to be start going towards the sun

01:07:39.680 instead of being in some sort of elliptical uh perfect orbit where we never get closer to the

01:07:44.940 on we would start going towards it because of this the the bs what they called you know relative

01:07:50.560 gravity uh all the all the satellites would just smash into it because it'd be taller than all the

01:07:55.520 elon's gonna be pissed i like that all the satellites would just smash into it yeah

01:08:03.480 so when they're showing now if you had to contour and it looks like a little hat now it looks like

01:08:09.000 little hat they've curved it to accommodate yeah so it's a fascinating concept that the father laid

01:08:16.240 out with dimensions now revelation 21 verse 17 says the angel that's showing john the vision

01:08:20.580 is using human dimensions to explain it to him so if this is just a metaphor why is he going through

01:08:26.520 the effort to give him dimensions for something in a measurement that john would understand

01:08:32.980 to it never calls it metaphor by the way right that's what that's what once the heliocentric

01:08:39.500 model came about that's what people started saying was oh it's just metaphor i'm gonna go

01:08:44.560 shut my door my dog's barking i'll be right back go ahead i'm just gonna uh talk a little bit to

01:08:48.800 this so um god being an architect right which i believe is uh something that you know is inspires

01:08:57.120 the freemasons you know they talk about the grand architect and i mean i think they get a bunch of

01:09:01.520 things wrong at their highest levels they believe that lucifer is this promethean character who

01:09:06.240 uh is the good guy of the story because he brings hidden knowledge to uh to mankind but

01:09:12.520 this idea of god as an architect is i mean as somebody who spent a long time in fabrication

01:09:18.780 a cube is an unbelievable object you know in its dimensions these perfect 90 degree angles the

01:09:26.920 structural solidity of a cube, uh, the, the, the, the integrity of it. Um, it's just, you know,

01:09:33.820 cause I'm just looking at it here and it's, they're talking about three, 1,380 miles in each

01:09:39.480 direction and, you know, perfect 90 degree angles and everything like geometry is, uh, a fascinating

01:09:46.820 testimony and it's, it's existing in the natural world is a fascinating testimony to the idea that

01:09:53.020 god is an is an architect um you know and i was just saying sean that uh the the masons do have

01:09:59.280 this belief that that you know god is the grand architect but then they go off on a bunch of

01:10:04.720 other things like lucifer is actually the good guy and etc etc but this is just one of those

01:10:10.000 things that brings that to mind the the the architectural nature the engineering capabilities

01:10:15.240 of god is not just it's not magic it is uh very very thoughtful and the systems are super thorough

01:10:22.920 out yeah yeah i mean like when he gives the dimensions for the the tabernacle like that

01:10:28.480 was a practical thing right and they actually the the to the israelites and wilderness he gave him

01:10:32.960 a mobile tabernacle that could be packed up and moved around right and with appropriate materials

01:10:38.660 for that but then when they get to a place and are settled in land he gives to david who then

01:10:42.380 solomon uh finally builds a permanent standing building right which is considered masterfully

01:10:49.340 architect built by you know with architecture um and so it's just fascinating that the average

01:10:56.600 person just this little part of the video by the way just says how these by the time you get to

01:11:00.540 the 17 and 1800s christian philosophers and apologists and preachers are already trying

01:11:05.400 to explain away the new jerusalem because its dimensions don't match the heliocentric model

01:11:10.600 which was becoming popular is that really so is that speculation that that's the reason they're

01:11:15.640 trying to do away with it or they're no it's in it's in their writings it's in there if you go

01:11:20.020 further in the video that it's in their writings oh well we'll go there i just i i wanted to skip

01:11:24.460 back here because i really quickly it looks like they're talking about the um the materials used

01:11:30.320 so gold and different types of like jasper and um you know crystals and things like that to build

01:11:36.620 this what do you think the significance of uh these building materials are oh it's just what

01:11:43.240 these are what it is not only is it is it showboating like i'm the creator all these

01:11:48.240 things you think are valuable i literally just have an abundance because i made them and i can

01:11:52.460 make a whole house out of them but they also i mean this supposedly is a the walls and streets

01:11:59.080 of gold the foundations are these precious stones um personally i think the the gold is a just like

01:12:07.360 it was on the ark of the covenant it's a barrier for non-resurrected mortal mankind it's a barrier

01:12:13.480 that actually absorbs and buffets against the true power of god so this is why when they opened the 0.53

01:12:19.280 ark of the covenant when the philistines opened it up everyone got cancer and died right so then 0.92

01:12:23.740 they started worshiping they started making they got all those tumors remember they started making

01:12:27.100 um they they cast their tumors in gold they got them yeah so and then they were like trying to

01:12:34.940 Give the Ark.

01:12:36.700 They were like, David, please take this Ark back.

01:12:38.640 We don't want this anymore.

01:12:40.180 This Ark is making me bumpy, dog.

01:12:41.720 Take it back.

01:12:42.600 It's like a Faraday blanket for God.

01:12:44.660 Yeah, yeah, for cancer.

01:12:46.020 Yeah, I think in a way that's why the Ark of the Covenant,

01:12:48.780 the staff that budded in the manna that was put inside the chest of the Ark,

01:12:55.620 that's the seat of God's power.

01:12:58.780 The Ark, that's where he's supposed to sit in his actual house.

01:13:01.900 The one made on the earth is just a replica that doesn't,

01:13:04.940 There was nobody sitting on it on the one of the earth, right?

01:13:07.000 It's just replica.

01:13:07.920 So the actual seat that he's going to sit on by when he shows up is going to

01:13:12.280 be full of power and his whole house, but the interior walls of the,

01:13:17.060 of the holy place was lined in gold.

01:13:20.600 Okay.

01:13:21.160 Like the whole thing was in my opinion, um,

01:13:24.480 because of the explanations of what the priesthood went through whenever they

01:13:29.100 went to minister, they walked into the holy holies.

01:13:31.420 The priest would have to then go and change his clothes so that he didn't

01:13:34.140 transmit holiness to the people when he went out to the regular crowds so there's a yeah there's a

01:13:40.100 lot there um but that's why you have to have a resurrected body to see god when when christ

01:13:45.160 says the pure in heart will see god well that's after the resurrection you get a glorified body

01:13:50.420 that can handle it right our bodies right now can't handle it that's why he tells moses section

01:13:55.680 30 34 you know nobody no man can see my face and live excuse me x is 33 um well what do you also

01:14:02.300 i got a little question about that in that same chapter um like a couple of scriptures earlier

01:14:08.480 this is something that someone was kind of debating us on but it says that he spoke to god face to

01:14:12.320 face like a friend yeah and then so yeah yeah if you if you look closely in exodus 23 there's an

01:14:19.700 angel assigned to accompany them okay he's hovering in that cloud by day fire by night

01:14:23.600 he's always in the air above them so just think about that when you read like

01:14:27.300 all those rebellions of the israelites like there's literally a dude in a cloud by day above

01:14:35.060 them yeah yeah a pillar of fire by night just chilling at all times watching you like this

01:14:40.280 is the original eye of sauron just hanging out looking over and watching the whole encampment

01:14:43.880 of israelites and they're still rebelling knowing that he's just like right there

01:14:47.380 insane insane but that's what descends in exodus 33 at the tent of meeting and speaks with moses

01:14:53.860 face to face is that pillar of cloud that sends down so the word elohim has five different uses

01:14:59.340 in scripture it is used for the almighty it also is used for the son of god at times now that he's

01:15:04.600 ruler of king of israel and high priest because it's just a word for ruler by the way right so

01:15:08.740 there's different types of rulers in scripture that the word elohim can be applied to the almighty

01:15:12.720 the son angels good and bad um unclean spirits are called false gods of the nations that's the

01:15:18.000 word elohim um it's the word god in translating the english but it has five different uses and

01:15:22.200 even rulers of men like the elders of israel were called elohim right john john chapter 10 jesus

01:15:28.220 says are they not elohim to whom the word lord came right in his refutation to the pharisees

01:15:32.720 so people forget that this word god has a semantic range of use depends on the context

01:15:38.580 and it's this word elohim and yes yahweh when he sent his angels who are you know hebrews 1 14

01:15:45.300 their ministering angels sent out to those who are in salvation they're called elohim and yes

01:15:50.460 when the people speak to them they know that they're not speaking to the angel they're speaking

01:15:53.640 to the messenger from yahweh so they're they're getting the words of yahweh from that messenger

01:15:58.600 like when gabriel shows up and speaks to to mary and says you're going to birth jesus

01:16:04.020 that's not gabriel's opinion like gabriel's just a messenger right yeah but gabriel's a real person

01:16:11.820 but that's not his words that isn't his opinion he's speaking the words of the almighty

01:16:15.460 in this message he's given to Mary, right?

01:16:18.420 So that's how a messenger works, right?

01:16:21.100 That was the idea.

01:16:22.380 Jesus even says this in John 12, 49.

01:16:25.160 He's like, my words are not my own.

01:16:27.640 Like everything I do and say, I've heard from the Father.

01:16:30.860 Right.

01:16:31.640 Right.

01:16:32.240 So he actually says what to speak and how to speak.

01:16:36.500 So because he was called a prophet sent by God, right?

01:16:39.900 He is the son of God, yes, but he's also a prophet sent by God.

01:16:43.120 That's how he fulfills Deuteronomy 18, as Peter preaches in Acts chapter 3.

01:16:47.020 And as a result of that, a prophet was also supposed, like a prophet is of mankind,

01:16:50.820 whereas an angel is of angelkind.

01:16:52.620 But both of them are just messengers who are supposed to have the words of Yahweh

01:16:55.860 and faithfully deliver those, right?

01:16:58.740 So when the people are speaking back to the prophet, when they're speaking to Jeremiah,

01:17:03.080 and they're like, we don't want to repent.

01:17:04.840 We're going to continue to worship the queen of heaven and bake cakes to her, right?

01:17:08.700 They're saying that to Yahweh.

01:17:10.900 I know Yahweh is not physically there.

01:17:12.820 It's just Jeremiah. But that's the point of, oh, you're going to kill the messenger? You're going

01:17:18.320 to shoot the messenger? Then you're not respecting the one who sent him, right? This is why you have

01:17:22.820 to accept Christ. Otherwise, you're rejecting the father. You want to know what my evenings

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01:19:26.160 it's also very funny because people say like you know today oh well if if god is real why

01:19:31.520 doesn't he just reveal himself to us so that we could worship him and it's like well i mean you

01:19:35.580 know throughout history uh people have had god right there in very many ways and have still

01:19:40.860 transgressed have still sinned have still filled up with iniquity if what sean is saying is accurate 0.84

01:19:45.420 where like god is right he's presenting himself through the prophets like yeah they killed all 1.00

01:19:49.560 those guys he came and he killed him and they and they wanted to uh our word the angels in 0.78

01:19:57.000 sodom and gomorrah right yeah right which is just worse than trying to just kill them like 0.90

01:20:02.800 oh they're not even trying to kill them they want to they want to do weird stuff with them 0.98

01:20:06.860 they want to do but yeah i mean you know having to tell people not to have sex with animals like

01:20:11.420 i think people get really weird about what they don't understand because of our modern day

01:20:17.440 experience what the world was like back then what the pre-flood world was like is like right now

01:20:23.780 yeah right exactly if like imagine that india was like light and that was actually the nice place

01:20:29.500 on earth and everything else was way worse um so yeah yeah it's just uh it's it's clear to me 0.74

01:20:34.160 though that we could have god in front of us in the flesh we could have all of these just and

01:20:39.220 people would still uh worship false idols it's just you know very consistent throughout the bible

01:20:44.780 you could have god like show up part of sea for you yeah dude great create an entire day of

01:20:52.400 darkness just for your neighbors and you're still standing at light but the sun's up and there's

01:20:57.660 just darkness over the land and and then you could you could have like an angel accompanying you

01:21:02.980 who like literally move is moving around in the sky above you like in exodus 14 he goes behind

01:21:08.220 the israelites and stands in between them and the attacking egyptian army and so therefore the

01:21:12.880 egyptian army stops you could have all that happen and still just be like yeah you know i'm gonna go 0.67

01:21:17.160 back to you know sacrificing kids to mole and free you from slavery you know all of these insane

01:21:24.120 things and then yeah golden calf it up it's just uh it's it's amazing but it is it sounds almost

01:21:30.900 ridiculous on its face until you look at human beings and you can see that element still within

01:21:36.440 us in in modern day uh so it's actually not surprising at all i think it's profoundly 0.81

01:21:41.500 insightful to the nature of man. And if we had these things that we claim,

01:21:49.100 I've heard it argued that this is the most just way for God to basically give us every version,

01:21:56.280 if you want to talk about dispensations, every version of what we could potentially have argued,

01:22:00.660 why didn't you do this, Lord? Why didn't you do that? And it's almost to pile it up and say,

01:22:04.680 I have done all of these things, and you still rejected me. And I still offer you forgiveness

01:22:10.980 through repentance i still sent my son for you all of these things so it's almost so that when

01:22:15.920 we get to the end it's like yeah there's that you can't complain there's no way you can complain

01:22:19.800 uh no matter how you claim you wish you should have had it or what would have been better

01:22:23.820 it's already been done and you still drop the ball yeah it's it's an amazing thing just that's

01:22:29.720 why romans chapter 1 19 and 20 says you know his invisible attributes his vital qualities and

01:22:33.720 powers his divine nature is clearly seen with what's been made right with the workmanship of

01:22:38.840 what's been made and that's where you can look up and the bible says that the firmament exodus 24 10

01:22:44.800 uh is is it's a description of firmament same thing description we see in ezekiel one that it's

01:22:51.720 clear see-through okay clears the heaven clears the heaven is the the word that's used to describe

01:22:58.460 the platform that the the uh god of israel standing on in exodus 24 10 just like there's a platform

01:23:06.340 that the angel standing on in Ezekiel one in this vision that's coming down from heaven and it's

01:23:11.880 clear as the firmament. So we're already told that we're going to see right through the firmament

01:23:16.480 because it's clear. So have you guys ever seen the people that have been filming the moon and

01:23:22.340 seen what they call lunar waves? Yeah, I actually posted about that recently. I said, because I'm

01:23:28.240 an idiot and I don't really know, but I wanted someone to explain it to me like I was a retarded 0.98

01:23:32.220 a child why every time there's a close-up of the moon there is like along the surface what appears 1.00

01:23:37.720 to be a rippling effect almost yeah it's almost weird it's almost like you're looking through

01:23:42.560 water to see the moon right yeah yeah i mean that makes a ton of sense when you ever you ever put a

01:23:51.120 light down in a in a swimming pool and see how it looks just like a star in the sky yeah so um

01:23:57.460 there's these images of like surface tension, surface tension on water. Let's say an insect

01:24:03.360 has its legs and it's light enough to not break the surface of the water. And so it doesn't sink,

01:24:09.400 but it does sort of balance on it. And you can see around each of its legs as it touches the

01:24:14.000 surface of the water, this little image, this circular image is created. And when you look at

01:24:18.720 that, sometimes they'll put a camera on the floor of whatever body of water this is looking up at

01:24:24.100 this phenomenon and you'll see light passing through it and it looks i mean identical to

01:24:29.720 when people zoom in on a star i've also seen these videos and i don't know where to place them i know

01:24:34.540 i've talked about them on the show before and it's like somebody's zooming in on a star and it looks

01:24:42.140 a lot like somebody's hand is coming into view i can't corroborate that one i can't have you

01:24:48.480 have you seen that one though yeah i've seen it i can't i love it it's fantastic could be anything

01:24:52.420 right it could actually be but but i if i'm not mistaken they're zooming in like you could see

01:24:57.620 the whole process of zooming in and zooming out all the way from their perspective onto this star

01:25:01.980 and what looks to be a hand coming in and moving across it and you know yeah there's nothing to

01:25:07.280 really do with that uh there's no way to corroborate it like you're saying but it is

01:25:11.740 fascinating it's fascinating yeah and but that same phenomenon what looks like water is is what

01:25:17.720 you get when you zoom in on a star and uh once again enoch says that there's an entire group

01:25:23.380 of angels that are in charge of the stars they're just touching them just poking around

01:25:30.140 just poking around yeah so they're they're they're sent there to tend to them and and be

01:25:36.060 responsible for them in some way just like there's a whole group of angels with different hierarchical

01:25:40.580 classes and even gives their names that are responsible for the movement of the sun right

01:25:45.400 Well, Psalm 19.6 tells us that there's a tabernacle made for the sun in the heaven and that the sun is running like a bridegroom through the sky and that it's completing its circuits.

01:25:56.520 Now, if you look up that word circuit, that is something that has a start point and an end point back to where it started, right?

01:26:02.240 Right.

01:26:02.760 So that's in complete opposition to the heliocentric model, which is the sun's flying through the galaxy and we're elliptically chasing it and going around it, right?

01:26:13.620 Have you ever seen anything, Sean, where because a lot of people will map out what they think is happening, you know, they'll track the sun through a long exposure and they'll kind of come up with different ideas about the model.

01:26:25.580 Now, we've seen the model as it's described by the Bible.

01:26:29.260 You showed that image earlier.

01:26:31.060 But in anyone's explorations trying to come up with one that is independent of Scripture, just observing it from our standpoint and saying the globe model is not accurate.

01:26:43.860 This is what happens when you track the sun and the moon across the sky.

01:26:46.700 Have you seen a model that makes you go like, oh, that guy is being earnest in his research, and that's pretty damn close?

01:26:52.620 well you set up you said a lot there so yes there are people that are tracking independently the

01:26:59.120 luminaries and some with uh lapsed photography over the course of entire year and it shows you

01:27:06.000 the six different positions of the sun and the sky which matches the six gates mentioned enoch

01:27:10.340 by the way and then you've got people that are looking at the sun moon stars in relationship to

01:27:15.860 trying to find and uh the analima uh people that are trying to find you know the uh what's called

01:27:21.940 the selenillion which is the the eclipses where the sun and moon are both above the surface of

01:27:27.060 the earth which should be impossible to have an eclipse at that point uh by the way speaking of

01:27:32.840 eclipses did you know that on the day of the crucifixion historians record that there was a

01:27:36.680 three-hour eclipse yeah yeah so i read an article recently about that where they uh they're like yeah

01:27:42.380 we can't explain what happened here and they also mentioned the earthquake they're like we don't know

01:27:46.140 yeah yeah but did you guys know that that this is why i mentioned eusebius earlier talking about

01:27:50.280 the passover date and in reference to first enoch with how they measured the sun moon and stars

01:27:56.040 so passover is defined by the moon being on the opposite side of the sky and the sun

01:28:02.720 at the middle of the month

01:28:04.320 so how does it make an eclipse

01:28:08.180 hmm wait wait run that by me again i'm i'm done so he's saying that if you put i can explain more

01:28:16.540 I got some graphics to put up to explain some more here.

01:28:19.720 I think what you're saying really quick is that like the moon would be on this

01:28:23.100 side and the sun would be on this side.

01:28:24.780 That's what Passover means that they are in direct opposition to each other.

01:28:28.080 So how could there be an eclipse unless you're outside of it looking out?

01:28:32.060 You wouldn't, you wouldn't see an eclipse from that angle.

01:28:34.320 Or unless something else is causing the eclipse.

01:28:36.500 Correct.

01:28:37.780 Let's see what you got here, Sean.

01:28:39.420 All right.

01:28:39.740 So we have just a couple of different illustrations here just to give you,

01:28:43.360 for people to study and think about later.

01:28:45.320 but so yes you can't flood a ball this is just some some ideas to express to you the enclosure

01:28:51.860 concept with the flood as well as um go a little further this is the analima the tracking the sun

01:28:57.300 through the different gates throughout the year yeah i've seen this is what makes it looks like

01:29:01.920 a figure eight right from from the side view and i've seen people tracking this with a with long

01:29:06.420 exposure photography and it does in fact make that shape yeah so these different gates are

01:29:12.140 described according to the year how it progresses each month in the book of enoch and how the sun

01:29:17.480 moves in the sky overhead so this just gives you an idea of which gate it hits at which time

01:29:21.480 with a top down view on the right hand side is as if you're god looking down up on the circle of the

01:29:25.900 earth and the movements of the sun through those gates okay oh that's what those uh concentric

01:29:31.320 yellow circles are on the top down okay yeah and apparently the fourth gate is the start of the new

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01:31:43.100 What's the significance? Because I know that the cornerstone in Freemasonry is the,

01:31:48.240 uh the it represents cancer and i could see there that cancer was the sixth gate and for whatever

01:31:55.100 reason masonry finds that uh the tropic of cancer to be very significant in their whatever their

01:32:02.120 ideology and uh but it seems to be significant within that that procession of the the sun as

01:32:07.780 well through the through these gates i don't know freemasonry's interpretation of the constellations

01:32:15.060 well enough to answer that for you okay all right i don't know what they ascribed every every moment

01:32:19.740 like that but um but this is just an example to show you if you're looking at a firmament closed

01:32:25.480 earth top down because you're because you're acting like you're the sun shining down in right

01:32:30.120 genesis 114 through 17 the luminaries the sun and the stars were to shine down upon the earth

01:32:35.480 okay so if you're if you're from that top down view you're looking down up on the earth

01:32:40.580 as the sun shines down upon it through a firmament that's what creates these these shapes of light

01:32:48.840 have you ever taken a light over a dome and shined a dome a light over a dome you're going to get

01:32:55.080 these different light patterns this is why you don't have like a lot of people will mock this

01:33:00.460 idea and say why isn't there a 24-hour sun all the time well because one the sun's not a million

01:33:06.060 times bigger than the earth that you're you're already starting with the false premise and two

01:33:10.460 it's closer it's closer to you it's above you and it's shining down through a curved concave

01:33:15.440 structure so it's going to affect how the light moves across the surface of the flat earth right

01:33:20.980 i've also argued that like a magnifying glass sort of ideas yeah yeah that yeah this can be

01:33:27.620 demonstrated with just basic stuff you can buy at walmart like this you just take a flashlight

01:33:31.880 get one of those magnifiers and you can just do this you could get a glass bowl you can do this

01:33:36.500 and there's a guy named joseph hanvey that's been doing a professional like he's an amateur

01:33:41.200 photographer and he's got his super expensive camera set up and he's created an entire

01:33:45.160 firmament model and he's already replicated the movements of the sun and the moon

01:33:49.840 on the firmament model to to show why there's why the the light moves in different ways around this

01:33:56.120 the the earth because if like if you go to timeanddate.com and you try to find out um why

01:34:02.900 certain why it doesn't always match you won't be able to do this right now top because it's kind

01:34:09.720 of like a longer investigation but but if you were to try to find out why does this part of

01:34:15.180 the earth in india still have sunlight when the opposite side of the earth should also

01:34:18.780 should be right but it doesn't it's already got sunlight right so you're going to get all kinds

01:34:24.540 of answers from the heliocentric model they'll say oh it's refraction right it's refracting off

01:34:28.640 the atmosphere and shooting over and that's why it looks that's why but no no it's like

01:34:32.620 there's it's light coming down through a concave surface and it's not they'll say the concave

01:34:39.520 surface is the curvature of the earth with the atmosphere around the globe right that's that's

01:34:44.000 making the light refract and do these different things but this is actually better and easier

01:34:49.980 modeled through a, a, a, a ferment, a vaulted dome over the earth concept.

01:34:55.880 This is what I've seen, uh, as far as being able to generate a, uh, a perfect arced, uh,

01:35:03.680 or arched rather, um, uh, rainbow is that it is like much more likely that there is

01:35:12.040 a firmament over this because of the way that light would be passing through it or refracting

01:35:16.300 off of this firmament and create it's almost like the the rainbow is telling you that there is a

01:35:21.120 dome over this so i love it and this is actually what uh my buddy austin gave a present you know

01:35:27.940 you guys have heard of a guy named what's it gets it yeah yeah there was we were going to talk to

01:35:32.200 him once upon a time and then he kind of like took a hiatus from the internet for a little bit

01:35:35.600 yeah he's the guy that went to um antarctica or yeah yeah yeah that's right he went on i actually

01:35:42.540 debated the pastor who set up the final experiment about biblical cosmology and he's the guy that

01:35:48.940 coordinated the trip raised the money to take all the people and send it try to get the press for

01:35:52.520 it and everything because there's a there's a time period in antarctica in november and december

01:35:58.320 where there's a 24-hour sun and that was a big debate that came about within you know the the

01:36:04.980 people that believe in the globe say that's impossible on a flat earth people that are in

01:36:09.240 the flat earth said it doesn't exist that that's not true but i would suggest they're not including

01:36:14.160 the firmament in their calculation and this is what i was going to say raven a minute ago when

01:36:19.380 you talked about you knew a guy that was trying to tell you about flat earth but he didn't know

01:36:21.940 about the firmament so he was just you know he had some other esoteric descriptions that seems to be

01:36:27.840 the dividing line even within the flat earth community is like there's people that don't

01:36:31.400 believe in the firmament and there's people that do right and that's to me that's like okay well

01:36:35.860 the people that don't believe in the ferment they still appeal to the bible for all the

01:36:39.940 descriptions about the flat earth but then there's because i've just been sharing a bunch of stuff

01:36:45.520 with you pertaining to the actual ferment the sky above us right there's other passages that talk

01:36:49.540 about the land right and sheol and all these other places so it's just interesting how the

01:36:54.660 ferment seems to be a huge stumbling block for a lot of people even for people that have woken up

01:36:59.300 to the topography knowing we're not on a curved surface but we are on a flat surface with with

01:37:04.600 mountains and trees but they still struggle with the firm because the firm immediately means that

01:37:09.800 you have a crater yes yes yeah something put that there yeah like an intentional creator who actually

01:37:16.840 loves you because he designed this whole thing just for you like this enclosure that you're in

01:37:21.960 which is vast and massive it's just for you man yeah like the the sort of mental gymnastics that

01:37:29.720 Look, maybe it sounds like mental gymnastics to me because I don't really understand.

01:37:35.620 But, you know, this this concept that you could have an atmosphere and then on the other side of the atmosphere is the vacuum of space doesn't make a lot of sense.

01:37:45.940 Yeah, that's not. But of course, I'm not a scientist.

01:37:48.800 And so this aspect comes in, right, where you're having faith in this institution and you're trusting the experts,

01:37:53.980 Because even though you cannot replicate the idea that you would have a stable atmosphere and nothing at all separating the edges of that atmosphere from the vacuum of space and that somehow that atmosphere would stay adhered to this globe, you could never recreate that.

01:38:09.360 You could never do that.

01:38:10.280 But this idea that once you go up in scale and there's maybe gravity is somehow involved because of the magnitude of the earth and so it has enough pull, I don't know.

01:38:21.720 But they introduce word salad to the situation that's contrary to what's testable and you just have to go, okay.

01:38:28.340 Sometimes bullets just disintegrate in the air too.

01:38:31.580 That's right.

01:38:32.020 That's right.

01:38:32.240 Yeah.

01:38:32.860 So what you're talking about, Raven, is that it's the second law of thermodynamics that high pressure always moves to low pressure to equalize itself.

01:38:39.820 Okay.

01:38:40.280 But the heliocentric model and the globular Earth claim with an atmosphere wrapped around the globular Earth, it doesn't abide by that gaseous principle.

01:38:49.020 The principle is you must have a container to have gas pressure.

01:38:54.200 Otherwise, the gas will disperse and equalize pressure.

01:38:57.620 So in order for us to have a breathable barometric pressure of atmosphere, we have to have a container.

01:39:02.500 I mean, there is no other science to demonstrate otherwise.

01:39:05.800 So that's one of the frustrating parts about this is that the average person is not taught that kind of stuff in school.

01:39:11.460 So they never put two and two together.

01:39:13.660 And just by the grace of God, people find out.

01:39:16.140 You want to know what my evenings actually look like during back to school?

01:39:19.580 The kids are overtired.

01:39:20.660 There are homework questions, the dog's begging for a walk, and someone's yelling for a snack.

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01:41:15.300 service but here's just some more just for your viewers people that want to screenshot this and

01:41:19.260 look this over just some more uh stuff that my brother uh westblaze made he's the co-host for

01:41:23.860 common ground and uh just just trying to put together a calendar aspect for it he's actually

01:41:28.740 come out with he and his uh he and his lady have come out with an app to where that you can go

01:41:33.560 through the biblical calendar with the days of enoch and all this stuff in an actual app

01:41:37.160 that's called torily it's i think it's i think it's on the play store now but um and then just

01:41:42.740 just the testament of levi like i was talking about which actually goes into explaining what's

01:41:47.720 going on on different levels of the firmament and so there's uh i think there was another

01:41:52.100 aspect here okay yeah so then this just talks about the different uh aspects of the circuit

01:41:58.360 that the sun makes above you which matches psalm 19 6 so let me let me ask you something do uh

01:42:05.300 do modern jews uh because when we get into um like the dates the feasts the times the moon

01:42:13.700 uh the moon phases where the sun is at i get kind of lost and there's a class back here and

01:42:18.820 they're paying attention specifically to that i think that they're uh what would you call them

01:42:23.180 david uh sorry jews messianic jews yeah they're messianic jews but i don't think i don't think

01:42:30.980 that they're uh flat earthers they're so the the messianic is the messianic christian

01:42:36.900 denomination is actually just an offshoot of a protestant 20th century denomination

01:42:42.820 but a lot of people don't realize this okay so what it what it was was that uh protestants

01:42:47.720 specifically evangelical Zionists,

01:42:49.820 they said,

01:42:50.800 we need a branch of Christianity that appeals to Jews.

01:42:54.600 And so they came up with messianic concept and that's what birthed in the 0.53

01:42:58.240 20th century that,

01:42:59.480 that we see now messianic congregations.

01:43:01.520 And then,

01:43:02.100 so therefore top,

01:43:03.240 whenever they have a question about these things,

01:43:04.680 they go straight to the Talmud. 0.95

01:43:06.640 They go straight to the Mishnah.

01:43:07.760 They go straight to the opinions of the rabbis or the modern day 0.78

01:43:11.900 interpretation through Judaism,

01:43:13.680 which as we talked about the beginning of the show, 0.86

01:43:16.240 i'm not going to listen to them anyway they they've far they've left the bible on so many

01:43:21.020 other topics i why would i care about what they say about this one personally right yeah so i'm

01:43:26.540 just going to go to what are the definitions of the words in scripture what is the bible describing

01:43:30.100 um thankfully the scholars are still being intellectually honest and saying yes this is

01:43:34.960 the definition of a word like stereoma or rakia it does mean a solid surface um and it does mean

01:43:41.920 supporting something above it that is its root historical definition and so i think that's the

01:43:47.700 that's why i've had debates with with a guy named will duffy like the pastor who created the final

01:43:51.920 experiment to go to antarctica to witness the 24-hour sun because he thinks it debunks claims

01:43:57.640 of the flat earth but i'm just sitting there going you're not including the ferment right

01:44:03.120 just shine a light down on a ferment you'll see at certain times of the year it's going to create a

01:44:07.800 what's like a coffee cup caustic effect and light is going to shoot around the outer edges of that

01:44:12.260 ferment and and provide 24-hour light on the outer edges of that ferment so this is where

01:44:17.500 most people in the biblical cosmology slash flat earth discussion they believe antarctica

01:44:23.120 is not at the bottom of a ball but it's just as if you took the globe and you squashed it down

01:44:28.100 and made it into a flat disc antarctica would come up and squeeze to be the outer perimeter

01:44:32.740 that's encompassed the ice almost the ice wall right ice wall yeah well there there is a lot

01:44:39.160 of ice there and i think that's uh just living proof and remnant of the flood so in genesis

01:44:44.360 chapter 8 when it said the waters receded and a great wind came through and caused the waters

01:44:49.000 to recede i think that's what froze them to the outer edge so so basically like that passage from

01:44:54.820 first enoch we read earlier where it says he went to the ends of the earth and saw the edge

01:44:58.720 or the ferment rests on the heaven i don't think you can do that today because i think that's

01:45:02.960 after the flood all that ice is built up on the outer edge as a barrier and so it's almost as

01:45:08.940 well right i mean well with the arctic on the center yeah but again that could be recreated

01:45:14.940 and that could be changed in a heartbeat if if the father decided okay so let's take this uh this

01:45:22.060 window in this quadrant of the ferment and open it up and warm air is going to float through that

01:45:26.000 area now instead of cold air right then antarctica is going to melt so that like if you wanted to

01:45:32.000 right because that's like a lot of the people um if you look at the globe model what we're

01:45:38.500 supposedly on a 23 point 24.6 degree tilt right compared to 90 and when we go through different

01:45:46.800 different uh rotations around the revolution around the sun the sun is on antarctica but it

01:45:52.820 doesn't it does fall out to a degree but how did it ever develop that much ice to start is the

01:45:59.880 problem right right what do you have you ever seen those maps that show um you know like uh the moon

01:46:06.940 map all right that's kind of like nds lore right so there's this idea that the the image that's on

01:46:12.580 the moon is actually somehow or another a negative mirrored image of this extra territories right and

01:46:20.860 And, you know, that that beyond this ice wall, let's say there are extra continents and land masses.

01:46:26.860 And there are maps that float around on the Internet that are attributed to either secret societies of old or just old enough.

01:46:35.940 And and, you know, maybe let's say belong to royal families or something like that, where the average person wasn't privy to it.

01:46:44.160 But on this map that was for these particular people, you could see the continents were aware of and then you could see extra territories.

01:46:50.340 Do you think that there's any veracity to that?

01:46:52.720 And does the biblical cosmology model allow for this idea of extra territories beyond a certain point?

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01:49:00.760 Yes, one second here.

01:49:02.440 Okay, so if you put that thing back up, it should be where it is right here.

01:49:08.840 So let me see if I can make this slightly bigger.

01:49:17.180 Oh, there we go.

01:49:20.820 There we go.

01:49:21.320 So if we live underneath in the center of this large structure,

01:49:28.220 this large house that the Father built,

01:49:32.460 he tells us that there's a mass, like a continent-sized house

01:49:39.160 waiting in the third heaven above us, waiting to descend,

01:49:42.260 being prepared by Christ right now.

01:49:43.540 I'll go to prepare a place for you.

01:49:44.560 My Father's house are many rooms.

01:49:45.780 if it weren't so i wouldn't i wouldn't tell you right and when i come back to you i receive you

01:49:49.840 unto me okay so that's where he's going to prepare the new jerusalem that's a that's in itself is its

01:49:54.260 own massive piece of land that's in the third firmament waiting to descend okay we don't have

01:50:00.940 any description in scripture about what could be immediately left and right of us on our our level

01:50:09.160 where we are right so the new jerusalem is that is in three levels above us right that that the

01:50:16.620 tabernacle that the house of the most high is at the very top in the seventh layer so left and

01:50:21.960 right of us we don't know if there's other land out there or not and we also don't know the distance

01:50:27.700 between each firmament there because each one would be bigger massively bigger each one would

01:50:33.680 be much bigger so i don't have the the quote with me but there is um this particular seven

01:50:38.520 layer model is also being explained by a second century christian called irenaeus who's a bishop

01:50:44.060 of saint in the orthodox and catholic church and he's also like he was he wrote a book that's

01:50:51.460 called uh demonstrations of apostolic preaching it's like a cliff notes for people just coming

01:50:55.280 into the faith so imagine like you're he was from uh what we call france today it's called lions

01:51:00.700 back in the day so imagine like coming becoming a christian in the second century a.d right there's

01:51:05.280 massive persecution throughout the roman empire you still decide to become a christian um you

01:51:09.880 already believe that zeus lives under the firma in the sky above you because you just came from

01:51:14.360 zeus worship um or you know jupiter worship from the roman empire same thing right and yeah and

01:51:21.700 then you become a christian and then you get a cliff notes pamphlet about your faith right it

01:51:26.720 goes through he starts off in the first few chapters here's what god created here's where

01:51:32.680 you live right and then he explains the seven layers that they're all encompassed one greater

01:51:38.220 than the other and this last he calls it the last layer which is the one that that we're under is

01:51:45.340 the one that was made on day two for us so okay i'm realizing uh because we're coming up on time

01:51:51.620 and i i get the sense there's a lot more to talk about but it just seems so because when they when

01:51:57.400 they're doing their classes back there and they're talking about the phases of the moon and the feast

01:52:01.400 and the calendar i'm just like what a waste it doesn't resonate with me i'm sorry you did ask 0.96

01:52:06.800 that black yeah if it's not flat this doesn't matter because they're looking at a completely 0.66

01:52:12.080 wrong model it's not explaining anything so yeah i think really the the loss is that um because we

01:52:18.560 tried to join that one time and they they said they'd have to take our foreskin yes absolutely

01:52:22.800 not no i can't i can't do that hold on so i think the problem there is like that's why i was trying

01:52:28.640 to mention the origination of modern messianic congregations and how they appeal to judaism so

01:52:34.620 much and all their interpretations of these ideas as opposed to just like believing what the bible

01:52:38.680 says through and through 100 because if they did they would they would have the to come to the

01:52:44.340 harsh reality that the modern day book the modern day bible with only 66 books and it does not give

01:52:50.160 a calendrical breakdown of the sun moon and stars to know how to keep the feasts you only get that

01:52:57.240 from Enoch that's why I mentioned earlier in the show even into the fourth century AD Eusebius a

01:53:04.960 church historian is still explaining from the book of Enoch how we keep the Passover in the calendar

01:53:11.380 the first of the year and the first month of the year right he's saying that how they do it then

01:53:16.680 was attested and confirmed by the book of Enoch right so that means there's a long and the reason

01:53:22.520 that this is even a conversation during that time is there was a long argument over the how do we

01:53:26.880 calibrate the first of the year right so that's the big calendar debate within Torah communities

01:53:33.100 they're constantly arguing about the calendar all the time the one that the Enoch calendar has

01:53:37.940 been referred to in modernity is called the Zadok calendar so you're going to hear something like

01:53:43.220 that the Hallel calendar which is what most Messianic Jews congregations will use which

01:53:49.680 has to add like every three years or every five years they have to add an entire extra month to

01:53:54.280 the year to make it make sense versus if you follow the Enoch and Jubilee's Zadok calendar

01:54:00.580 then it's a consistent 364 day a year and then you start you you figure out up on the equinox

01:54:08.820 after the first start of the year you figure out when to start your year so that there's never any

01:54:13.180 extra days there's never it's not a problem it's always consistent and this is how you could

01:54:19.320 know where the sun is in the sky and the moon is in the sky and you could know what month it is and

01:54:26.520 when the feasts of god are it we were reading through i mean you probably saw on if you watched

01:54:32.640 the straight bible yesterday when we were reading through second king second kings 22 or 23 i don't

01:54:37.880 remember talking about king josiah and uh that like the huge reform that he had let's say reform

01:54:44.800 where he kills everybody before he got himself killed for disobeying yeah yeah before all that

01:54:49.900 but uh it's it mentions that uh i might i might be butchering the phrase here but it was like uh

01:54:57.540 this was like after he did what he did they were like this was the best passover ever it was like

01:55:02.180 the most pure passover so i'm like if all of that is put into account and did and maybe they didn't

01:55:09.060 know that they were going by the calendar of the passover but like this i was mentioning to matt

01:55:14.360 how this that you don't do an entire genocide of these people burn them to the ground go to

01:55:19.260 different places stamp the ashes out like burn the altars it doesn't happen in a day this takes

01:55:24.200 a while yeah so this played out and then they're like that passover there was the it was the most

01:55:30.900 pure passover that you can get it's like it was that the true passover that that happened on the

01:55:36.480 exact date was that all um timed perfectly because like they just stumble upon the bible again

01:55:44.140 you know and they rediscover and that that's what sparks this entire movement

01:55:48.760 i don't i don't remember the text telling me specifically if if their enjoyment of the

01:55:55.920 passover is related to them doing it exactly on the right day i i would just assume that they

01:56:00.940 would do it on the right day since they had found the book of the law and you know and that was what

01:56:05.140 initiated the reform but uh funny enough hezekiah about 40 actually about 70 years earlier he also

01:56:14.740 had an incredible passover in second chronicles chapter 30 to where they missed that the priest

01:56:20.120 didn't purify themselves properly and they missed passover time period and they weren't ready to do

01:56:24.300 it basically okay but that's where numbers chapter 9 gives you second passover this is like lord of

01:56:28.840 the rings first past over and second passover right so you get second passover a month later

01:56:33.540 if you miss first Passover and so Hezekiah did it second Passover and they had such an it's only

01:56:40.620 supposed to be seven days because you know it's like Passover is the meal you eat on the start

01:56:45.000 of unleavened bread which is a seven-day feast okay so they did the seven-day feast with joy

01:56:50.560 and greatness and revival and God's healing people and then they're so excited they just

01:56:55.040 keep going another seven days and God blesses the whole thing of 14 days right that's not

01:57:00.960 instructed in leviticus 23 for passover or exodus 23 so that's i think it just it just depends upon

01:57:08.240 the hearts of the people there and god will respond to those hearts because they did it a

01:57:12.460 month late and they did it longer than prescribed and god's healing people during the event and it

01:57:18.600 was considered a time of revival so like i think god just responds to our hearts yes he does have

01:57:24.340 his days that he calls his feast days on his calendar this is built into genesis 1 14 through

01:57:29.280 17 when it says the luminaries are made for this the days seasons hours and stuff well that word

01:57:34.920 seasons in the in the hebrew is the word from moadim for appointed times it doesn't just mean

01:57:40.500 the four seasons throughout the year where the leaves change and the snow comes it's literally

01:57:44.480 a meaning for the different feasts of god throughout the year which is why i get on my

01:57:49.900 channel i get a lot of flack i look at a lot of flack from other christian groups because i'm the

01:57:56.460 one that says God's law, which, which relates to like his calendar, the feasts, how we should

01:58:02.280 behave. Um, I I'm the one that puts forward from scripture that it is, is eternal. Like it's not

01:58:09.200 something he just, I don't believe in dispensation theology. I think that that's a incoherent way to

01:58:14.740 read scripture. That's just going to confuse you more to where you think, Oh, well, God was just

01:58:18.000 dealing with them in a certain way at this time period. And then later these guys came along and

01:58:21.140 he decided I'm gonna give them a whole bunch of rules, but not anybody before that. And then when

01:58:24.400 christ comes along all the rules are gone but yet ananias and sapphire and acts chapter five are

01:58:32.020 getting struck to death they're getting struck down by god to death falling down instantly

01:58:38.060 because they lied to god well where is that now though well that's some would say you know

01:58:46.140 it just depends on where you are but the point is okay fair enough i think that yeah you want to

01:58:54.220 know what my evenings actually look like during back to school. The kids are overtired, there are

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02:00:53.080 service. But what I'm saying is though, like from the very beginning of the creation built into the

02:00:57.940 creation model, that's why I got all these graphics on screen for you is God's eternal law, his way

02:01:02.620 of life this is psalm 103 verse 7 where he says i gave my ways to israel right i get my my manner

02:01:10.900 of life to to moses so this isn't just him saying oh you guys on the earth i want you to do a bunch

02:01:16.860 of this arbitrary stuff i'm going to create for you guys i want you to keep all these seven feasts

02:01:20.560 a year i want you to do a day of atonement i want you to uh to have a sacrifice every morning and

02:01:25.820 evening i want you to do no no he said moses be careful that you follow this pattern i'm giving

02:01:30.940 you because this is pattern after the tabernacle in heaven so this whole creation model by the way

02:01:37.940 flies in the face of the philosophy that is the underpinning of the heliocentric model

02:01:44.060 because that because this creation model from scriptures assumes that the realms above us the

02:01:51.580 firmaments above us is a real physical place with water and land and trees and atmosphere,

02:02:00.020 clouds, right? When it talks about that the angels are on, that God sits in the clouds of heaven,

02:02:07.160 it's not talking about our atmosphere. So the point of what I'm saying is we have a,

02:02:14.540 just think, okay, let me try to bring it to hopefully something more concrete that the

02:02:18.300 the viewers can follow here jesus christ resurrected from the grave we agree with that

02:02:23.200 okay so when he resurrected from the grave he had a real body thomas came up to him and touched a

02:02:29.820 real body right right mary tried to cling to a real body he shows up they've been fishing all

02:02:37.320 night he's at the shore already cooking him breakfast right he's cooking with real stuff

02:02:42.440 he's cooking with real things right like the disciples got off the boat had breakfast with

02:02:47.880 him they had real food like he wasn't making fake food he wasn't making wispy vision food right so

02:02:55.120 we have a real glorified messiah son of god who's ascended back to heaven so in his real body he

02:03:03.140 went back up to a place that can his real body can breathe can move around them that has barometric

02:03:10.720 pressure that has land he promises in revelation 2 7 for those who overcome i'll give you the right

02:03:15.880 to eat of the tree of life which is in the paradise of god right the new jerusalem is

02:03:21.180 called the paradise of god revelation 22 1 through 5 that the trees of life are in the paradise of

02:03:26.660 god the new jerusalem they grow along the river of life that's real water that's real trees real

02:03:31.600 fruit we can eat from it says the medicine from those those leaves on those trees are made for

02:03:36.140 the nations to for healing for the nations so that means heaven and earth were made from the

02:03:42.220 beginning from genesis one with real materials the realms above are not gnostic immaterial wispy

02:03:49.180 ghost lands of platonic forms and imaginations that's that's philosophy that sadly so many

02:03:56.840 christians push onto the bible so that's why you'll see on my channel you'll see me arguing

02:04:02.240 with pastors and professors and apologists about having being an actual real place it's not an

02:04:08.380 imaginary place it's not a it's not a spiritual place that has no definition or concrete reality

02:04:14.140 but like it's a real place where jesus our resurrected glorified messiah ascended into

02:04:19.120 it can actually breathe up there and live he's standing at the right hand of his father's throne

02:04:23.640 which is a real throne that could be touched right so there's this is why it's so important about

02:04:30.020 yeah that's what that's why they're trying to invade it you know in the yeah that's our babble

02:04:34.380 it's a real place that you probably can do that well maybe not but well i think they would have

02:04:39.580 just you know open if they even could get through the ferment it would they would just water would

02:04:44.560 just flood down oh yeah they would just dump a bunch of water on themselves yeah unless they

02:04:48.320 unless they knew some kind of like i would imagine there's some sense of more detailed

02:04:54.760 architecture to the the layers of the ferment where there's ways to get through and and you

02:05:00.420 know pass if there's if there's enough forethought put into to make a sluice to make a levy a damn

02:05:06.740 gate right more than likely there's probably some some pathways to get through as well um

02:05:12.700 because i think the what's interesting to me is that well may not get too far away uh the point

02:05:18.660 of what i'm saying is the creation was made to interact with the earth modern philosophy says

02:05:25.560 oh no no there is no heaven heaven's a an ethereal you know they'll treat it like you

02:05:30.780 know marvel movies right oh it's in a different realm you need a you need a space stone to create

02:05:35.440 a portal to get there it's not like literally tangible i had a pastor my channel one time who

02:05:41.500 actually has a phd in hebrew by the way um he's from a messianic congregation by the way and uh

02:05:47.240 he and i had like a whole two-hour argument about this where where he's trying to tell me um i said

02:05:53.360 well, where's heaven, sir? Where is actual heaven? It's not up. You don't like the Furman idea. You

02:05:59.300 don't think it's up. So where is it? He's like, well, it's everywhere. I'm like, whoa, wait a

02:06:03.980 minute. It's everywhere. What does that mean? He's like, if I go out behind 7-Eleven, I could

02:06:09.280 just blip into the heavenly realm behind 7-Eleven. He's back there right next to the dude that's

02:06:14.660 passed out from meth. Is that what's going on? And he's like, well, yeah, it's everywhere. I'm

02:06:19.520 like that's not what the bible describes it says as high as the heaven is above the earth

02:06:24.360 right always directionally places these things in the scripture it sounds cool to say that but

02:06:30.360 there's nothing backing that just that like it's it's a it's around us at all times and we can just

02:06:35.740 we'll face into it like okay you've got it yeah if you have to like cling to the heliocentric

02:06:40.560 model and we're talking about directionality and you're in australia and i am in florida

02:06:46.640 yeah it's like we're not pointing in the same direction yeah it's it it's that's why i jokingly

02:06:53.080 say when i started studying this out i've been studying this out since 2015 and um i was delivered

02:06:59.240 of believing in space jesus there you go yep because like he would have to come back through

02:07:04.720 space with the new jerusalem to return so like i i remember asking a pastor one time because i

02:07:10.600 hadn't understood biblical cosmology yet and i still believe in the helocentric model and i

02:07:13.540 asked the pastor i was like so like where is heaven and he was like well it's far beyond it's

02:07:19.240 in the third heaven far beyond the galaxies and outer space way beyond that i'm like well so then

02:07:25.540 jesus is coming from there to here for the second coming he's like yeah and so i'm like i'm already

02:07:30.620 a nerd in school like i'm already i'm doing uh english reports in in 12th grade on event horizons

02:07:37.180 and black holes and space-time warping and like i'm already fully invested in that model and

02:07:43.540 thought it was truth and it was you know science nerdy about it and i'm thinking to myself so that

02:07:49.400 means jesus has to cross time and space through through the heliocentric model with all these

02:07:55.120 angels that are coming back with them so that they must they need to hurry like that's going to take

02:07:58.940 them a long time like that's a large distance and so they must have a a wormhole right they must be

02:08:05.360 able to bend space and time so they can just go from point a to point b like you just bend a piece

02:08:09.780 of paper stick a pencil through it you know and i'm just like i'm coming up with all this cope

02:08:14.520 and i'm not and i'm not just like reading the bible and believing what the bible says

02:08:19.620 yeah well i mean that that's the entire thing you talked about earlier at the top of the show is

02:08:24.660 is there are pastors who are trying to bend scripture to you know make it meet with this

02:08:31.400 heliocentric model or what nasa is saying about space and that's where they got into some trouble

02:08:35.920 with the new jerusalem idea and you said they were trying to literally uh get rid of that in

02:08:41.340 order to accommodate you know their worldview instead of the other way around the problem is

02:08:45.180 that i mean even as you're telling me this stuff now where i'm like yeah that has some legs to it

02:08:49.380 a lot of my preconceived ideas have to die yeah and i'll tell you right now i'm not very comfortable

02:08:55.180 with it sean yeah it's like 30 years of stuff that i've been i this is what i what i like or

02:09:01.200 this is what i know so i felt so sick to my stomach when i first considered this a real

02:09:07.320 a real thoughts i was in the gym i was on the treadmill this is some girl next to me and i'm

02:09:12.580 listening to a presentation about this and i just started laughing out loud and she thought i was

02:09:17.120 like crazy and um and i just remember like it messed up my workout like i was thinking

02:09:22.600 this can't be like this this is crazy no there's no way that i've been studying the bible at that

02:09:28.960 point for 18 years there's like there's no way i've been studying the bible for 18 years and i

02:09:33.100 never looked up the definition of the word firm there's no way there's no way and then i go home

02:09:38.480 and i look it up and i'm just like oh oh what yeah yeah it was it was weird i had like a week

02:09:46.040 of cocked disc kicking hard and just thinking like i don't want to believe this is crazy man

02:09:50.760 But then, as Scripture says, the Holy Spirit will bring to remembrance, right?

02:09:56.580 So all these verses I've been studying all these 18 years since I became a believer.

02:10:00.960 And, guys, I jokingly call myself a word nerd, but if you could truly see into my life, my wife would attest.

02:10:07.420 But even before I met my wife, like, it's Saturday night.

02:10:10.880 I'm not out at the club.

02:10:13.880 Like, I'm at home reading my Bible.

02:10:15.840 You know what I'm saying?

02:10:16.300 like 28 29 years old 32 35 years old like i'm i'm trying to figure out this book i've been told that

02:10:23.640 this book is for life and godliness like this is the wisdom of my creator and i i was trying to

02:10:29.520 figure it out and this particular topic without understanding what the firm it was it was causing

02:10:35.760 a massive disruption to me understanding this book right because i just forgot to do the most

02:10:41.940 basic reading principle practice that we should all do which is just oh if you run across the

02:10:46.280 words you don't understand just look it up just define it real quick yeah right that'll help you

02:10:49.960 going forward and when i read genesis 1 i just read past it like i thought i knew what it said

02:10:54.280 just assumed a whole bunch of stuff into it and just went to chapter 2 i never just stopped and

02:10:58.680 slowed down and just started defining the terms and saying what does this mean you know and so

02:11:03.100 when i when i did that the bible suddenly christ coming back from the sky made sense because i

02:11:08.220 thought why can't he just appear right here right why with this grand entrance from the clouds of

02:11:13.600 heaven coming down out of the sky you know with all these angels like why not just show up cut

02:11:18.820 some throats establish peace on the earth you know easy peasy yeah it's like if like because we see

02:11:25.380 him doing that in luke chapter 24 and john chapter 20 where he just shows up in a locked room you

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02:13:30.960 Yeah.

02:13:31.640 You know?

02:13:33.300 Yeah, I think we live in this really unique time where we have the resources to actually do that.

02:13:38.620 You know, and that's a remarkable thing because that didn't exist throughout history.

02:13:43.260 Even reading was something that was like reserved for the elites, if you want to use that word, as far as education goes.

02:13:50.780 But now we have these resources online.

02:13:53.120 we use Blue Letter Bible pretty regularly to be able to look at the original Hebrew meaning of a

02:13:57.740 word or the original Greek translation and meaning of a word. And so, yeah, you could do that. It's

02:14:04.200 something that I think a lot of us take for granted. And especially if you're not really

02:14:09.080 trying to understand, if you're just reading it, you can glaze right past the idea of affirmament.

02:14:13.800 And if you have some cognitive dissonance where these things don't really mesh together,

02:14:17.860 but you're not interested in understanding, you're just trying to read through it. Well,

02:14:22.260 you can you could just go right past it but we have the tools because there's so much value in

02:14:26.560 in going right past this too like people's lives have been permanently changed on a surface level

02:14:32.580 of just this book but when you get deeper into it it's like i was just thinking i was like we've

02:14:36.460 spoke to sean i want to say maybe for 15 hours probably because we've been on your show a couple

02:14:41.220 times you've been on our show a bunch and it's like we haven't how how we how haven't we spoken

02:14:45.680 about this and there's so much there's so much yeah there's got there's like more questions i

02:14:50.560 gotta ask unfortunately we gotta bring it in but it's like there yeah there's definitely a part two

02:14:54.800 about what what are you even saying yeah i want to say that right away uh typically we we do a

02:15:02.580 thing sean we'll we'll do part twos and they'll be you know however long into the distance you

02:15:07.000 have the calendar um let's set this up as soon as we have availability look for the next time that

02:15:12.520 that our schedules link up and and let's get this situated oh okay we have a couple of uh uh these

02:15:18.480 are super chats from your guys i just i want to respect their money and their time five dollars

02:15:22.780 from not a but what uh no way no way oh that's a good name i like that thank you very much thanks

02:15:28.800 for the support twenty dollars from uh thanks barnes 4764 says uh erasmus darwin was a was

02:15:38.840 lunar society prince of the air fakes it through the communications if you track the data mercury

02:15:45.080 project you will see the data originates in london then mafia in new york then it finally

02:15:50.600 gets to goddard uh i'm too stupid to know what that means i think there's a part two to know

02:15:54.920 the goddard space center so he's just talking about um how the the elites control the the 0.88

02:16:00.900 stream of communication for fake space projects spacex that explains this one then because he

02:16:08.460 goes on to say uh you will never find any telemetry data to compare it to a spacex launch

02:16:12.760 that's fascinating that's right yeah just like they conveniently lost the telemetry data for

02:16:17.540 the supposed moon mission right yeah which is you know it's just like they conveniently lost what

02:16:22.460 was it three trillion dollars and you know in the pentagon uh bombing or when the plane hit it so

02:16:28.640 yeah there's a lot of convenient uh losses of really before we go though i do i just wanted

02:16:33.700 to say one thing that you'd asked a question earlier and i i was you know there's so much

02:16:38.580 like you said top like we could talk for a whole bunch of hours on this right just trying to

02:16:42.480 condense in in this first episode you were talking about revelation we're talking about new jerusalem

02:16:48.040 we're talking about the idea of the city you asked why is it made of these specific materials

02:16:53.000 and um i was going on about the the radiation buffer if you will but about the gold because

02:17:00.560 the nations are going to interact around it as revelation saccharide 14 isaiah 52 i've ate 56

02:17:06.940 Revelation 21 the nations are going to come

02:17:09.580 to the house of God that descends and bring their

02:17:11.260 wealth into it they're going to bring their tithes and offerings

02:17:13.340 they're going to actually learn the law of

02:17:15.560 God and be required to do it

02:17:17.460 so there are

02:17:18.880 that makes sense for the gold but why all the precious

02:17:21.500 gemstones on all these foundations

02:17:23.340 what's the point you're just showing out

02:17:25.000 well he could just show out if he wanted to but

02:17:27.280 I think there's a practical reason

02:17:29.040 and if you read in Revelation 22

02:17:31.720 1-5 where that there's

02:17:33.240 the water that's coming out from under the throne

02:17:35.160 and it comes out from god's throne under his throne and then goes to the to be this river of

02:17:43.020 life that goes through the new jerusalem but ezekiel 47 actually gives you more description

02:17:47.400 about the river of life and how it it refreshes the water courses of the land so it's going to

02:17:54.380 go into the earth the water courses of the earth out it's going to flow out this is just like the

02:17:58.620 garden of eden was described right that the the riverhead hit the garden of eden and split it

02:18:03.300 into four riverheads and it went from there right and so i think this is why we have the prophecies

02:18:09.640 about people living longer in the millennial ring is because this water is coming up through the

02:18:15.000 most perfect water filter you could ever make all these precious gemstones this water is just the

02:18:21.440 which i believe is the gihan river that's why it has to be that's why the new jerusalem is going

02:18:25.980 to sit down on on top of where the old jerusalem was because all that land is going to be leveled

02:18:31.600 out burn with fire and cleanse for the

02:18:33.540 house of God to sit down. That's a whole other conversation.

02:18:36.280 But that

02:18:37.040 the river is going to come up

02:18:39.580 through the city, through those

02:18:40.820 amazing water-filtered gemstones

02:18:43.780 to the top

02:18:45.520 of the mountain, which 1 Enoch 24

02:18:47.460 and 25 describes these seven

02:18:49.380 large mountains inside the New Jerusalem

02:18:51.000 to where the throne of God and the sun

02:18:53.420 is up there.

02:18:55.380 It's going to flow out from the throne of God

02:18:57.420 down the mountains, water not just 0.99

02:18:59.420 the New Jerusalem, but go out of

02:19:01.400 the city to water the earth itself with this amazing purified water. And I think that's why

02:19:08.100 people are going to start living hundreds of years again. That's interesting. That's kind of

02:19:12.120 goes to this fountain of youth kind of a situation, right? I mean, this is what I was talking

02:19:17.220 yesterday with Matt about as well, where again, a separate idea, but when they call Jesus a glutton

02:19:23.700 and a winebibber because he's eating and drinking with the people, it's like, it's funny to think

02:19:28.160 that he's sitting there and he's probably just acting like he enjoys this food because it's

02:19:32.240 slop but like realistically yeah you're drinking the most purified water and you're eating

02:19:37.100 the best food that you can that probably have healative properties in heaven he came down here

02:19:42.980 to slum it up with us and he's just that's all he's doing he's just drinking eating and chilling

02:19:47.720 with the people talking with them and it's like that that's a sacrifice that's a sacrifice and

02:19:52.480 then put a smile on while you're doing it right it's kind of crazy yeah it's a john chapter two

02:19:56.920 he made the best wine that the guy had ever had you know exactly which is a component of water

02:20:02.460 obviously so that's actually why um i've been mocked incessantly by christian apologists and

02:20:08.640 pastors i've debated because i suggest heaven's real place with real things and actual water

02:20:13.380 and that the the type of body like we're made of the dirt of the earth but the the type of the

02:20:18.680 body of angels or spiritual beings that can exist in in the realm above us are made of water so even

02:20:25.660 though i'm made of dirt i don't look like dirt right right okay so when i say that they're made

02:20:31.060 of water doesn't mean they have to look like water right but they have the properties they

02:20:35.360 have the capabilities of water which is what i think is christ is referencing in john 3 3 through

02:20:41.700 5 where he's talking about how those who are born of the kingdom will move like the wind

02:20:47.660 yeah like when you go through a wall or something that's what jesus does right that's when jesus

02:20:52.800 just floats up in acts chapter one and goes up into heaven right because you can move like an

02:20:57.560 angel right they they already have these type of bodies to begin with um and we're promised to have

02:21:02.320 a glorified body like jesus exemplified which can do things which probably can move super fast and

02:21:08.840 probably can just disappear and then show up inside of a locked room because you're just moving

02:21:14.060 with the breath that is the air that we breathe so the holy spirit that word spirit is by definition

02:21:21.740 the hebrew word breath and this is what job 33 talks about or excuse me uh as psalm psalm 33 6

02:21:29.600 talks about is that all of creation was made by the breath of god okay so that i'm just going to

02:21:36.380 tease that off it gets into some physics and some some other things but but uh just tease that out

02:21:41.620 because that also could lead into a trinitarian conversation which might anger a lot of people

02:21:45.420 but but the point is yeah we'll get into that we actually would like to get into that because it's

02:21:50.480 a, it's been a hot topic of conversation lately, uh, on our show. And so it will be fascinating

02:21:54.960 to discuss that with you. Um, all right. So, so Sean, uh, number one, thank you for your time.

02:22:00.260 And before we get out of here, let's remind everybody where they can find you. Yeah. I'm

02:22:04.380 over at Kingdom of Context. I also call it KIC. You can just type in YouTube search bar at Kingdom

02:22:08.580 of Context and you'll be able to find me. That's our website there, but, um, I don't think it's

02:22:14.120 working right now so okay go to go to the youtube i'm doing some upgrades on our on our sites we

02:22:20.940 have a couple different sites and i'm also i'm currently almost finished with the brand new

02:22:25.360 site i'm making just for the charlie kirk investigation and um which which allows

02:22:29.800 people to like collate all the information in one place and have a community to to to research

02:22:34.680 and investigate but um either way yeah you came to context and you'll probably enjoy some of our

02:22:41.020 content if you become a member you actually get access to our basic and advanced courses to where

02:22:45.900 i go over an entire like six hours on the creation model in our basic course

02:22:50.500 excellent excellent very cool well i'm looking forward to talking to you again uh soon sean

02:22:56.100 thanks for coming and uh on short notice and just talking with us again but guys until next time

02:23:02.080 we will see you later uh that's redundant obey submit and comply

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Nephilim Death Squad - September 09, 2026

Does the Bible Teach Flat Earth？ w⧸ Sean from Kingdom in Context

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