00:22:20.220It's this new, this relatively new theory that John Darby, C.I. Schofield, a couple hundred years ago, the mainline church, the real church never taught it before now.
00:22:30.080And this, and all is when they also believe in this rapture thing.
00:22:32.500And these are the people, and because of this, these dispensationalists and these evangelicals are supporting it.
00:38:35.780Because the baggage is eschatological.0.91
00:38:40.260Every Christian believes that we are currently under grace and we are no longer under the law unless you're, you know, unless you're like a Seventh-day Adventist.
00:38:46.440Then you believe that we're under certain parts of the laws, like the Sabbath, and that's the only part of the law that they believe still affects Christians.
00:38:52.240But doesn't it explicitly say, let no man judge you by the Sabbath, specifically when you, what is it, you observe the Sabbath?
00:39:03.540I believe that's in the Bible where it says,
00:39:05.800let no man judge you according to the Sabbath.
00:50:18.800As far as what's happened in the past, I think we'll all agree that we're no longer under the stewardship or dispensation of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or under the law.
00:50:28.420But when you get to the future, that's when things get fuzzy because the future hasn't happened yet.
00:50:32.480And we know in broad strokes what the future is going to be.
00:50:35.180we know that, you know, at the end, God wins, but most of the controversy comes with eschatology
00:50:41.400because we can, we can, you can look back with certainty. Looking forward, there's less certainty.
00:50:45.740That's why you get into things like, you know, um, the rapture, which is, you know, a huge
00:50:49.500controversy, whether, whether the rapture exists or whether it's pre mid or post, you know, my
00:50:53.740position, there's all three. And when is Jesus coming back? Has he already come back? You know,
00:50:58.840what Zayden's little C's and all this, all these sorts of things we get into arguments about
00:51:02.960because they haven't happened yet so they're ripe for speculation and there are certain people in
00:51:08.080in the dispensations who believe that you know these things have to certain things have to happen
00:51:14.240in order for for the eschatology that we believe in to come true or they have to happen in this
00:51:19.360certain order and that's when you get into the third temple and that's one of the big things
00:51:23.600that a lot of people who are into dispensations because if you're if you're really into
00:51:27.920dispensationalism then you want to know okay what's the next dispensation going to be like
00:51:31.120how was it ushered in what are the signs that we should look for and we do know that at some point
00:51:36.400in the in the future the antichrist will desecrate the temple he will commit the abomination of
00:51:41.440desolation okay well that means there must be a temple in order for it to happen well there's
00:51:45.280currently not a temple which means something that means it has to be built who's going to build it
00:51:49.600build it why and then you so then you have some people who are dispensationalists kind of go off
00:51:54.080the deep end and that's when they start raising red heifers and they start trying to make the
00:51:58.240happen it's not biblical just because we know something's going to happen doesn't mean we have
00:52:04.240to make it happen so i believe that there has to be a temple in israel at some point for the
00:52:09.840antichrist to commit the abomination of desolation it is a future term event jesus spoke about it in
00:52:14.640the future tense and it hasn't happened from the time of jesus up until now it didn't happen in
00:52:19.28070 a.d which some people say that was the abomination of desolation it was not because
00:52:23.440the temple was destroyed by Titus Vespasian. And they say, well, he was the Antichrist. No,
00:52:29.400he wasn't. He did not go into the temple and declare himself to be God. He didn't do that.
00:52:33.640If he had, he would have been guilty of treason. He would have been killed because only the Roman1.00
00:52:37.180emperor, his father, actually Vespasian, would have, he was the emperor at the time. So he never
00:52:42.300did that. They destroyed the temple. They did. So that means that this event is yet future because
00:52:46.120it hasn't happened yet so but then but so those so those who believe in that they have to usher0.90
00:52:52.960this in then they also believe well israel has to be back in the land and and then then they say well
00:52:58.960the current people in the land now those are the israelites and this is a sign of the at the end
00:53:05.240times are here you will hear that a lot so and i'm not going to deny that that might be the case
00:53:10.940but what we do know in the tribulation the nation of israel at the time they're not they're not like
00:53:17.640good people they in fact it is said in in the book of revelation that the the city of jerusalem is
00:53:24.240called spiritually sodom and egypt you know so that's what so they will come back and even in0.60
00:53:30.460the book of ezekiel you know you have the dry bones prophecy that you know because when ezekiel
00:53:35.860wrote his book the israelites did not have control over israel they were in the babylonian
00:53:40.660captivity but it said that they will come back into their into their land but without without
00:53:46.180life they were just these dry bones walking around and that's what people say that right now because
00:53:50.660the people in israel are secular it's basically a secular nation they don't have the life they
00:53:55.380don't have the spirit in them they don't have the holy spirit but at some point in the future they
00:53:58.580will get the spirit in them and that's probably going to happen my conjecture it will happen when
00:54:04.100they finally call on jesus right um to and he comes back for the second coming yes so the bible
00:54:10.720predicts that they will the dry bones will rise again then they'll walk around but without the
00:54:15.740spirit then the spirit will come into them yeah i think you're right too about the calling on jesus
00:54:20.500first like we're doing a tosure study aw tosure and yeah yeah it's about how uh how how to get
00:54:27.980the holy spirit how the holy spirit even works and it's like really emphasizing like this relationship
00:54:32.240with jesus first that has to be there that's a pre-existing condition and then the only and then
00:54:38.480and only then can that can that uh that that connection be made with the holy spirit so they
00:54:43.520don't have that right now and they don't have that right now and again and i'm open to the question
00:54:47.300of are the people there are they the physical descendants of apraham isaac and jacob i don't
00:54:52.060know i mean there's there are lots of theories that there it's reasonable to assume like you
00:54:57.540know among them is yeah exactly i mean here's something that's going to really piss people off
00:55:02.720what if the people who are who are native there the palestinians what if they have more actual
00:55:09.300genetic bloodline than the people there who are from poland and russia and eastern europe
00:55:15.320i don't know possibility it was when people ask me who are the real jews i'm like i don't know
00:55:20.280but you know that's not my problem that's god's problem god made those promises to abraham not me
00:55:25.240so it is not my job to decide who is and who isn't a jew it's not my problem to decide what
00:55:32.280to do about israel that's god's issue what i'm supposed to do as a christian i'm to obey the
00:55:36.800great commission go into all the earth and make disciples of all men whether you are jew or
00:55:40.780whatever where you jew gentile black white my job is to make help make disciples preach the gospel
00:55:47.840make disciples of all men everyone and god can sort that out because that's that is god's issue0.50
00:55:53.020And I think one of the problems that people have is that a lot of these Christian Zionists are basically sticking their finger into something that doesn't have anything to do with them.0.74
00:56:03.840Right. And that is where everything kind of becomes conflated, right?
00:56:07.420Because that is evident to a lot of people.0.94
00:56:11.460And so now that paints Christian Zionists as a bad guy, but it's still got that Christian in there, right?0.85
00:56:16.780And then you have to start to add layers of identification, whether it's dispensationalist or something else.
00:56:20.660i mean when if you have a conversation with somebody which we have uh who starts to use
00:56:26.920all the words that we talked about at the beginning of this right protestant dispensationalist you name
00:56:30.920it i i start to almost die inside but it actually is typical you know i i find that the adversary
00:56:39.660uses this destabilization technique so that there can be no unification and no mutual understanding
00:56:46.940And that technique is always attacking the definition of a word.
00:56:50.280If you can disrupt the fundamental understanding of even the things that you're trying to express, well, then you can never come to any sort of agreement, which is, you know, what ultimately we're looking for among the body of Christ is this unification in Christ.
00:57:03.800We can't have that if we can't even agree on what we're talking about.
00:57:44.440So we are all dispensationalists and we are all evangelicals, not because of our political beliefs, but because those are job descriptions.
00:57:52.300Well, I mean, well, at least evangelical is a job description.
00:59:03.160Because it's part of mainline Bible-believing Christian eschatology.
00:59:06.660No matter what side of the fence you're on, it's about eschatology.0.65
00:59:09.140And the Catholic slash Orthodox Church hates non-Catholic Christian eschatology.
00:59:17.620They hate mainline eschatology for one huge reason.
00:59:20.960Mainline eschatology always ends with the return of Jesus and setting up his kingdom.
00:59:26.600And as my old mentor, Chuck Missler, would say, the idea of Jesus coming back and overturning the evil rulers is not very popular with the evil rulers.
00:59:35.680because the catholic church they believe that they believe that they are the kingdom of god
00:59:40.740the vatican i'm not talking about the catholic people i always get in trouble when i if i don't
00:59:43.880clarify i'm speaking of the leadership the guys in robes and who hang out in the vatican with big
00:59:49.140jeweled crosses and by the way top it was i was i did something you told me not to do i i looked at
00:59:55.660your twitter page sorry no no it was all good it was very funny but one person uh said a catholic
01:00:02.760guy said you know it's been decided that batman is catholic that's funny i think you wrote back
01:00:08.320yeah batman is gay and i mean he's the worst but because i i grew up a big comic book fan and he
01:00:14.480was one of my favorite characters and i said well of course batman's catholic i mean he's a scared0.94
01:00:19.240little boy trapped inside of a grown man he wears black all the time silly costume he's fantastically
01:00:25.020yeah well he's fantastically wealthy but he doesn't use any of his money to help anyone he
01:00:29.180just uses it to enforce his rigid rules, and he lives by these rigid rules, and he wants everyone
01:00:33.500else to live by them as well. So yeah, totally Catholic. Eating well shouldn't be complicated,
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01:01:36.080service. You know, and by the way, so, um, somebody reached out to me recently. I just want to shout
01:01:43.120out to, um, to Ashley who, uh, DM me not long ago, just to say she loved the show and she appreciated
01:01:50.920it and i got back to her on it and she said um that she doesn't watch us as much as she used to
01:01:58.800but she ended up becoming catholic and because of our show she went from having no relationship
01:02:05.380with christ to having one with christ she decided that the the catholic church was the one true
01:02:10.380church which you know that's a huge argument that everybody's constantly getting it orthodox
01:02:15.120church is a one truth church whatever but what i found i almost don't even care about that she's
01:02:19.800now in a position where she teaches scripture to children and i go that's wonderful dude it's it's
01:02:25.980incredible that anything you know that comes out of this show leads to not only somebody having a
01:02:31.020relationship with jesus christ uh which you know i think personally all of these systems are dead
01:02:37.040and corrupt but that does not mean that true believers don't operate within them and of course
01:02:41.960christ doesn't operate within them and so um just that that even happened at all and and now she's
01:02:48.040teaching scripture to children i think is is an unbelievable win for god so uh you know just just
01:02:53.760to say like these systems we we go back and forth about which one's viable which one's messed up
01:02:58.780they're all messed up in their own very unique ways um which is why everybody's so able to sit0.68
01:03:03.820at the same table but throw shit at each other from across i was just watching a documentary on0.93
01:03:08.280netflix the pastor's wife and it's it's such a shame because it i haven't watched it but i've
01:03:13.760seen it it's it's i think it's on my wife's to watch list my wife yeah it's if you i think the
01:03:19.980propaganda behind it is obviously a smear on whatever they're presenting christianity as but
01:03:25.040this church is just like off the chain wild like they're singing like uh justin bieber remixes but
01:03:32.240they're putting christian lyrics over it and that's fun and you know it's all about the guy0.98
01:03:36.520the the pastor he's a kind of he's a controlling guy he's addicted to sex and all this his wife
01:03:42.000ends up committing suicide without burying like the lead and what happens there and i'm like
01:03:47.360there are churches like that there are people like yeah and uh yeah that flavor or would you
01:03:53.400want to you know have like worship the devil and the the catholics i don't know but they're all0.73
01:03:58.240full and god works yeah they're all cruel but like you said david there there are still individual0.91
01:04:03.540people who are still good people who are saved who are catholic i would i i i totally believe
01:04:09.240that i have friends who were catholic who were saved my wife my wife again she was raised catholic
01:04:14.520she was saved she can't she got out of the of that because she found it to be a you know a dead
01:04:19.320church but she she was saved you know while she was there my again my issue is with the hierarchy
01:04:26.340at the top and and what they're doing because i think they're doing a lot of damage if you if you
01:04:31.680are still able to have a good relationship with with god and you are catholic i think you're doing
01:04:36.740it despite what you were taught not because of it because i think what you're taught can lead you
01:04:41.860away from god and so going back to the eschatology point that the eschatology of catholics and
01:04:49.540orthodox and honestly i i can't differentiate between the two they're different when i when
01:04:53.620when i think about catholic versus orthodox it's like new york style pizza versus chicago style
01:05:00.260it's still it's still pizza it's just one thick crust thin crust it's still pizza it's the same
01:05:06.420thing maybe pizza wasn't the best usage or maybe it was yeah because i'm like there's a lot of
01:05:11.000i kind of want pizza you mentioned uh cracker barrel yesterday i went there after after the
01:05:16.020show it was good yeah how many crackers did you see um pretty much all of all of them
01:05:20.880so every single person out here is a cracker but i'm just yeah go ahead but the reason that they
01:05:27.660broke in the rapture in that is because of eschatology so they're really taking everything
01:05:32.480they don't like about main bible believing christians wrapping it up into one category and
01:05:37.840then fusing it with zionism so you don't like what's going on in zionism you don't like what's
01:05:42.320going on in gaza you don't like what they did with mcafee's building or the jfk uh rumors or or any
01:05:49.520of the other or what was that both the uss liberty or whatever all these things that are coming out
01:05:54.480that are causing people to really have a bad disposition towards Israel.0.59
01:06:03.180When you can lump your enemy into that, well, you've just won.
01:06:07.460And especially when you have a lot of them who are being paid.0.99
01:06:09.960A lot of these Christian Zionists are clearly being paid0.99
01:06:12.920to make their pilgrimage to Israel, to kiss the wall,0.98
01:06:20.920I'm not saying anything no one doesn't already know.0.89
01:06:23.080So when you can lump them all together, and then I think the only people who lose through this are mainline Christians, and the people who win are the enemies.0.88
01:06:33.860And that's why I see this as a psyop.0.88
01:18:31.600that you make the word of God of none effect through your traditions. Jesus did not like
01:18:36.340the people put in the traditions of men on top of the scripture, which is exactly what the Vatican0.75
01:18:40.400does. They are the modern day Pharisees and Jesus had a problem with that. And he was doing the
01:18:45.420same thing that the Protestants, the Protestant Reformation was intended to do. Let's get rid of0.99
01:18:48.940all these stupid traditions of men that have nothing to do with the word of God and actually1.00
01:18:53.780making the word of God in vain and pointless by going back to the original scriptures. Jesus did1.00
01:19:01.120let's go back to what the law says not what the pharisees say the law says the reformation the
01:19:06.480protestants again i'm not saying they're perfect martin luther had a lot of issues calvin had tons
01:19:11.380of issues they're not perfect people but they're the theme was let's forget about all these
01:19:15.420traditions and all the all the pomp and circumstance let's go back to what the bible actually says
01:19:20.080that's very similar to though right we were talking about the butchering of these definitions
01:19:24.020and now it means something else calvin is a is also an example of a like you said a flawed man
01:19:29.960But totally distant from what has become of Calvinism and what the belief system is.
01:19:36.420And it's like you take a thing and you spin it and then it becomes this, you know, this caricature that you you you demonize and and then you use it to like it's like Calvinist.
01:19:45.360Oh, my goodness. But I've heard Calvinists in the in the Nephilim Death Squad Bible study talk about, number one, Calvin, and then also say that they go to a Calvinist church that above all, I believe this is Cherry.
01:20:01.300Shout out to Cherry. Above all champions relationship with Jesus Christ.
01:20:06.280That is the thing that is the most important in their, if you want to call it their doctrine.
01:20:11.260And so, you know, but that doesn't stop anybody from throwing out all of them because it's just this term like, oh, Calvinist.
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01:21:33.320What I find really, really frightening is what I brought up at the very beginning is that I don't see anyone talking about this except me.0.62