00:00:54.280uh let's get into it a little bit more joe's bar and grill created a halloween event the
00:00:59.820organizers say the medium visited saint mary's before and receive no pushback so saint mary's
00:01:05.400is a church and uh i think a catholic cathedral and they saw fit to throw a halloween event not
00:01:13.000just a halloween event but also to have a medium which i think is maybe controversial it's spooky
00:01:18.380season man you can do whatever the hell you want well we don't know what to think about this so we
00:01:22.380have a really good guest brought back again. Again? Mr. Ed Babley. What do you think about
00:01:28.060this kind of stuff here? What's happening in today's day and age and Halloween in general?
00:01:33.260Is it okay to have a medium at your church? Well, the short answer is no, it is not. It's not my
00:01:39.040opinion. It's the opinion of the person who inspired the Bible, God himself, who basically
00:01:44.780said, do not have any type of medium, any type of witch in your midst, or you will be stoned to
00:01:49.440Now, granted, this is Levitical law, so, you know, we're not under the law per se, but I don't think that makes it okay, you know, to do this sort of thing. And I don't know why anyone would think that was okay to have in a church.
00:02:03.720You know, I want to say real quick, people will typically give Protestants a hard time for this. This is actually Catholicism, right? Because Protestants are the ones who do, yeah.
00:02:12.120protestants are the ones that do all kinds of goofy stuff if we want a lgbtq ira you know uh0.96
00:02:19.020pastor that's a female then that's usually going to be under the the the tent of protestants pulling
00:02:25.700that one off but this this uh this is actually a catholic move it's very fun you know what's
00:02:29.520interesting when i was in my 20s long before i met my wife i dated this girl who was she was a
00:02:34.120catholic girl she was a mexican girl she was catholic and but she was also into santeria
00:02:38.480and so she takes me to like this santeria i don't know what they call their establishments it's not
00:02:43.700a you know a santeria synagogue so like that's where i can i can piss off i do like that no
00:02:47.420whatever their whatever their place of worship is i was i went there out of curiosity and i just
00:02:53.560noticed that while they were doing all their chants and incense and doing their spells they
00:02:57.720were all like these candles with the catholic saints on them you know the virgin mary saint
00:03:02.340whoever of wherever were all there so it's like they were mixing the two because there's there's
00:03:07.500that mix of paganism and Christianity,
00:03:10.100which is essentially what Catholicism is.
00:03:11.720They, you know, when Constantine did his thing
00:12:51.660If you are someone who's a new Christian and you were in some type of paganistic situation before, you probably shouldn't do it.0.96
00:12:58.980It's just like, you know, if you're a recovering alcoholic, you probably shouldn't go to a bar, you know, the day after you, you know, go to AA.0.96
00:13:06.120Maybe a few years later, you can handle it.
00:13:08.600But it's a stumbling block for you right now.
00:13:10.820And so if it's a stumbling block, then absolutely don't do it.
00:22:00.380i think they just well i can tell we we don't have yeah yeah we don't have any yeah so maybe0.98
00:22:06.020i guess i'm i'm proof of concept because we don't have any the 30 foot uh skeletons but i will
00:22:10.620what's interesting is that in our neighborhood yet almost all the houses are decorated for
00:22:13.840halloween but when christmas comes around maybe 30 percent have a similar level of intensity of
00:22:19.880decoration really well of course i live in northern california too so keep that in mind
00:22:24.500well that is interesting when when people go like super hard like as a kid i would appreciate it you
00:22:29.100show up to somebody's thing and it's like you look at it i can't even be bothered to put up like
00:22:32.600strings you know string lights or whatever but you look at some people's houses like you did a
00:22:36.600whole ass haunted house and some people do that too they like a setup they'll have like an actual
00:22:42.520haunted house where you got to go through some stuff corridors they put up on their lawn very0.97
00:22:46.480familiar with it have always seen that it's always white people so is that like a celebration then
00:22:50.180of like the dead right interesting i don't know what it is it is weird because it becomes like
00:22:55.960an idol in a way yeah it's interesting that christmas is more controversial up here where
00:23:01.940i live than halloween because you know if you if you put out christmas decorations oh that's a
00:23:06.120christian thing that's a religious thing we don't like religion religion religion bad halloween
00:23:10.460no problem that's interesting it's yeah so it's very much a cultural thing yeah i mean uh i mean
00:23:16.700christmas is another question too where it's like you know the intent it comes down to the intent
00:23:21.420and the way that i so what is the intent of halloween that's what i'm like what's the intent
00:23:25.160of halloween like that's what i'm trying to like understand yeah as and my kids really opened up
00:23:29.980that question to me when they when they asked that if we're going to celebrate and i was like
00:23:33.440so the intent for for halloween is very similar to the intent of uh christmas if you remove
00:23:41.060the spiritual connotation at least and it is you know gluttony basically it's a it's a communal
00:23:48.580get-togethers like it's you know like well because christmas is as is marketed and has
00:23:55.460been successfully turned into the highest consumerism season of the year you know to the
00:24:03.120extent that um all stores are setting up their sales for in and around this time um every every
00:24:12.280you know anything that has a product that's going to be marketable which is virtually everything
00:24:17.000right during the christmas season is gearing up this is the final quarter right this is the final
00:24:22.880stretch the very last though all of your ad revenue gets dumped everything has they spent a
00:24:27.720long time in america you know with the idea of santa and coca-cola and the polar bears and all
00:24:33.440this stuff setting this as a an idol to consumerism so yeah baseline but it's not just it's not just
00:24:41.280consumerism like what i'm asking is deeper than uh deeper than like this superficial thing of like
00:24:47.080we're gonna we're gonna buy stuff and make it look this way when you buy it and you make it
00:24:51.000look this way how uh christmas is one way you buy the christmas stuff that's soft warm lights or
00:24:56.940color lights it's like it seems cozy and home like like family it's like but uh the main course
00:25:05.020to thanksgiving thanksgiving was like the it's kind of like that like the appetizer and then
00:25:09.000christmas is the main course yeah if jesus is discarded during christmas when people are
00:25:13.240decorating still then okay your intention here is something that is like uh friendly
00:25:19.120right right in your house like a grave site and and no matter if you're not thinking i don't care
00:25:26.000if people aren't thinking about it consciously i'm like what exactly are you doing i think when
00:25:30.620i think it gets down to some of our base human needs slash instincts so because i i knew an
00:25:37.940atheist who would celebrate Christmas. And I would ask, I asked him, okay, well, if you don't believe
00:25:41.400in God, you don't believe in Jesus, what, why do you even celebrate Christmas? And they said, well,
00:25:45.140you know, it's just a time of goodwill and cheer and thinking about others and being thoughtful
00:25:49.540and that sort of thing. Thanksgiving, same thing is, you know, to be thankful for, you can, you
00:25:53.660know, cause Thanksgiving has a quasi Christian connotation to it, if the origins of it, but it's
00:25:59.140just a time to be thankful for what you've got, for what you've received, you know, for, and hang
00:26:03.080out with family then halloween is another basis we have a base instinct about things like mystery
00:26:08.700and the forbidden that is just a a deep-seated i want to say longing it's it's a deep-seated
00:26:14.820aspect of our of who we are as human beings we want the mystery we want we want to be frightened
00:26:19.640we we know we want to get into things that we don't understand it's also part and we're tantalized
00:26:25.140by it say again partying like so especially like partying years it was like partying was like oh
00:26:30.680Yeah, that's what it was. It was an excuse to actually it's an excuse to get into some of your baser instincts, because what are Halloween parties like when you're 20s in your 20s?
00:26:38.980You're getting drunk. You're going to try to get laid. Yeah, it's just it's an excuse for you to say, I'm going to like, how does the how do the girls dress?
00:26:45.580You know, it was either sexy nurse or a cat, you know, a sexy kitten or something.1.00
00:26:51.680That's how they dressed. Yeah, they wouldn't dress like that normally.
00:26:54.040It's just, it's allowing them, not just women, men as well, it's allowing us to kind of have an excuse to celebrate or embrace our baser instincts.
00:27:03.820I think that's really what it's about.
00:27:06.000Yeah, so therefore, the baser instinct is always calling you to this weird place.
00:28:33.120Zach of the Berean Files, where he said, horror movies are the only type of media that has a clear good guy and bad guy, which I thought was an interesting observation.
00:28:43.680observation and i and i tend to agree mostly with that assessment is like there's never a like you
00:28:49.240know if you have an uh uh any other movie that the the hero often think about like um i know it's not
00:28:54.260a movie but think about breaking bad or like your main character has incredibly questionable morals
00:28:59.760and is in fact a horrifying person that you're right like that doesn't happen in horror films
00:29:03.960you very much know who the good guy uh who the victim is who the bad guy is christmas and halloween
00:29:09.760are kind of set up in a very similar way where um once again i think it's intense so i'm not even
00:29:15.040really dunking on christmas what i'm saying is like halloween makes no qualms it's not trying to0.77
00:29:19.620be uh anything other than this holiday that is about spooky evil shit i mean that's kind of on0.97
00:29:26.400its face what halloween is if you really want to reduce it which isn't that hard to do at all0.91
00:29:30.080but christmas gets a little bit weird because of all the symbolism that's hidden within you have
00:29:36.040the idea like the trees are an homage to nimrod you have right nick which is a euphemism for satan
00:29:42.880he's you have you have the yule you have the yule lock the yule is chaldean for child and you burn
00:29:48.400this thing yeah so there's like there it's like this trojan horse which i'm not cozy it is cozy
00:29:53.560but i'm not saying that that really matters because i think what matters is your intent
00:29:57.700like if you're getting together on christmas and you're celebrating your family and you're
00:30:00.420celebrating jesus christ and you're grateful and you're showing gratitude and all this stuff like
00:30:03.760i honestly believe that that trumps it however the way that they're set up is like think about
00:30:08.640the idea that old nick which is a euphemism for satan can give you the material desires of your
00:30:15.120heart right he has the ability to give you the world which is very interesting like there is this
00:30:21.740there's layers upon layers uh in christmas that are obfuscated like a trojan horse whereas
00:30:27.540is just on its face right it is um that's the thing it's like on its face it's like you were
00:30:32.960trying to scare kids and here's some candy like what the hell is happening when kids get scared
00:30:36.840that really makes me i love it they turn and run inside hit a wall on a trip yes i love it i know
00:30:42.800i probably shouldn't but like i'll see a video where like people are in the comments and they're
00:30:47.040like that mom played a scary prank on her kid and that's not right and the kid was really scared
00:30:51.380because she wore a mask and i'm like ha ha you little brat i don't know for some reason i just
00:30:56.780really enjoy that but i do think that that's fascinating that on its face halloween is this
00:31:01.540one thing outwardly and if you start to dig into it it's like you only find more of that it's like
00:31:06.700okay it looks like a spooky holiday about demons what what let's look into it it's like okay pagans
00:31:11.680and witches are actually doing ceremonies and rituals on this this is like like the more you
00:31:16.420dig the more it just is exactly what it is on the surface all the way to the center whereas christmas
00:31:21.760is like layered upon layered of like there's the deception layer but there's also the family
00:31:27.680there's also the christ like there are christmas songs that are um i think old holy night yeah
00:31:33.200uh an incredibly um like biblically accurate banger you know what i mean like that's a song
00:31:40.960that's really great but then you have like i saw mom hooking up with santa claus or whatever and
00:31:45.200then you have the consumerism like we talked about with the coca-cola and the polar bears and
00:31:48.720everything that's around like it is it's really a bizarre holiday that i'm a huge fan of1.00
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00:59:23.200Right. He's going what he's the reward I get is taken from you because God justice means everything equals out.
00:59:29.560So if harm is done to me, then God has to repay me.
00:59:33.620But you did the harm. So God has to take from you to give to me.
00:59:36.260So if you want to keep giving me reward, go ahead. But you're not doing you're doing yourself a disservice.
00:59:40.340And that's why I want to want to make everything clear in this episode, because I want people to stop harming themselves.
00:59:46.840So that's why I'm telling you, if you can't handle this, if you are not, if you are not willing to be a Berean, if you are don't have the maturity and not everyone does.
00:59:55.520We're in different phases of our Christian growth. Faith by reason is not Christian kindergarten.
01:00:00.240This is Christian grad school. If you're not ready for it, that's no problem. Don't listen to me.
01:00:04.500there are others you know watch joel olstein i'm joking there but what i'm saying is watch someone
01:00:10.460else who is at a level where you are still growing at a rate where you aren't crashing out because i
01:00:16.680don't want you to listen to me if i'm going to be a stumbling block to you if you are in christian
01:00:22.76010th grade and i'm talking christian phd i'm not i don't want to let's i don't want to overstate
01:00:27.920myself if i'm in saying you know christian college you're not ready for it you're not going to do
01:00:31.960well you won't get there eventually paul talks about that in corinthians right where he's like
01:00:36.580uh i tried to give you meat but you couldn't take it so i'm just giving you milk because you're like
01:00:40.820a babe um we're gonna do something real quick because we're having a little bit of issues we're
01:00:45.140gonna hit the refresh button we're like fill out we're having these echo issues so guys just bear
01:00:49.500with it'll be like 30 seconds we're just gonna smack refresh we'll be right back let's see what
01:00:54.680have entered the studio we're back okay hopefully okay so here's what I want to say if this if
01:01:16.580you're not ready for this it's fine but how will you know what is your reaction when I when you
01:01:22.640hear something from me or anyone else that doesn't make you comfortable. And I understand the idea
01:01:27.260that God doesn't know everything, that God's not in complete control of every aspect of everything.
01:01:32.760I understand why that can make you feel uncomfortable. Actually, wait a second.
01:01:37.780I saw a comment before. I think it came from G by Jonathan. And he said something that I thought
01:01:46.100was interesting i wonder if you agree with it he said that god knows um the outcome of every choice
01:01:53.500but he doesn't know what which one you're going to choose
01:01:56.020i can see that that's actually actually that's that's pretty astute because the way i think we
01:02:04.720talked about this when i was there for bro grove me and john we were talking we may have talked
01:02:08.560touched on the whole gps thing that i know we talked about it at some point where every choice
01:02:14.080we make, we make, God has a will for us. When we are born, God told Jeremiah, I knew you when I was
01:02:19.940formed, when you were being formed in your, in your mother's womb. So he knew his character. He
01:02:23.880knew his, his intangible drivers, as John would call him. He knew what he could do, what his
01:02:29.360maximum potential was. And what God wants for all of us is to us to reach our maximum potential.
01:02:35.100He wants us to have, you know, maximum profitability, but we're not because the only
01:02:39.680way to have maximum profitability is to do what jesus did jesus only did what god told him to do
01:02:44.880so jesus had maximum profitability we are not none of us do that so there's we're always going to be
01:02:50.380less than perfect but what god does is every choice we make he can it's like the gps when
01:02:55.140you're when you're going from point a to point b and you make a wrong turn what happened it
01:02:58.660recalculates because it knows that okay you're supposed to turn on main street but instead you
01:03:03.260turned on fifth street okay now i gotta take you over here here here and here to get you back
01:03:08.100So God knows if he makes his wrong turn, here are the outcomes that are going to happen.
01:20:29.660And do I know with 100% certainty the physics? I do not.
01:20:33.200I will tell you right now, I don't know everything.
01:20:34.780I am trying to give analogies to help other people understand it as I'm working to understand it.
01:20:39.740But what I do know is that if time is only, if our physical time is only affected by things with mass and God doesn't have mass, then he doesn't experience time the way we do.
01:20:50.400That's really the only thing I can definitively say is God does not experience time the way we do.
01:20:56.900I wouldn't be surprised at all that you could say that definitively because people themselves have experiences where they're seemingly engaging with time in an inconsistent way as opposed to what they typically are in a day-to-day.
01:21:10.560You know, you might have this experience or let's just say dreams.
01:21:13.780dreams are a huge one where it's like you might be asleep for 15 minutes and might have a dream
01:21:19.500that feels like it lasts days uh no you z-man uh and so yeah i mean time is is um it's an odd
01:21:27.960construct that we're trapped within i mean it's not it feels natural to us but to try to examine
01:21:32.620or i'm sorry uh imagine something outside of those constructs is where folks are in the in
01:21:39.860the same way like uh i don't know so christmas love christmas under the tree love the tree got
01:21:44.340five trees uh i put my i put the gifts there my kids are trapped in this experience of
01:21:50.300you ain't opening that nimrod worship number one first and foremost number two you ain't opening
01:21:56.400that that's a hard place to be as an adult man that's a hard place for me my wife probably brought0.91
01:22:03.160my gift with my money oh you get it and then wrapped it and put under the tree and i'm well
01:22:09.220within my right to go and open that or to look at your bank statements i look at my bank statement
01:22:13.380i look at the receipts i'll see what i can see but i don't we open it when the time comes because
01:22:19.460these are the rules and this is what as a matter of fact these are my rules and i've agreed to them
01:22:23.760and everybody here plays by them if i didn't then it would make me an unjust imagine on december
01:22:30.42020th i go i'm opening my presents and i go like this to the kids
01:22:33.780it would be would be crazy like you did that hell yeah let's go there you go
01:22:41.940but hey if you guys notice that when you are traveling to someplace for the first time
01:22:47.620that time goes at a different feels different like it slows down yeah and why because again
01:22:54.920physicists say that time is basically our perception so when you're doing something
01:22:59.080for the first time your brain is making new connections like the first time you went out
01:23:02.100with with your your your wife when she was just you know a girl you were dating it seemed like
01:23:06.040it lasts forever but then when you go out with them the next time it seems faster and faster
01:23:11.480when you're going because not because things are have changed because your perceptions of it have
01:23:16.220changed you drive someplace for the first time it seems like it takes a long time to get there
01:23:19.420you drive back oh happened like that very yeah yeah very quick so that's the thing time is weird
01:23:24.580and physicists still struggle with it you know you the whole schrodinger's cat thing is the cat
01:23:29.520in the box alive or dead well it's neither until you open the box and so i swear dude that's like
01:23:34.340when i hear that i go yeah you can smell it um just give it a week and you'll know without ever
01:23:39.680opening that box but like i just i that to me is one of those things where i'm not so sure matt
01:23:44.220says this and i tend to agree with him like philosophy is i think uh showing a kingdom of
01:23:48.140context also said this philosophy is taking a simple thing and just expanding on it until it's
01:23:53.640this convoluted nonsense and schrodinger's cat and super positions i think are just uh jewish0.89
01:23:58.900nonsense. I am of the belief that when I leave here, David does not exist. You can't prove it,1.00
01:24:05.100can you? Every time I fall in the woods and I'm alone, literally nobody hears it. He doesn't
01:24:09.980text me back. It doesn't matter. Dr. Tibbs, thank you for the money. He asked, couldn't we say God
01:24:15.300doesn't know the future? He makes the future. Prophecies aren't predictions, they're promises.
01:24:21.360I don't understand if it's a question or not. Well, I would say first off, he loves that for
01:24:24.060his vagina. But what do you, what do you think, Ed? God doesn't know the future. I think if you1.00
01:24:30.400mean, God hasn't experienced everything in the future. I would agree with that. If say he doesn't
01:24:36.080know it, but he, he knows what's going to, again, he knows what he's going to do. If so, what you
01:24:40.200is, I guess it really depends on what you mean by knowing the future. God knows what he's going to
01:24:45.220do. He doesn't, I don't think God knows exactly when, because this is something I was thinking
01:24:51.420about getting into in a future show, but I'll just give a little preview of it, is that God's will
01:24:57.160is for, again, us, everyone's going to, his will is for everyone to be in the New Jerusalem.
01:25:02.020Everyone's not, it's not going to happen. There's some people going to, who are going to be in like0.93
01:25:05.400a fire. So God knows that's going to happen, but I don't think he knows when, because in order for
01:25:09.760God to bring about his judgments, he has to have enough justice stored up to justly do it. He
01:25:16.720doesn't know how long that's going to take but he does know that in the future he is going to have
01:25:22.020these judgments are going to happen and everyone is going to either be in the lake of fire or
01:25:26.320they're going to be in the new jerusalem but does he know the exact date no because he doesn't know
01:25:31.160how long it's going to take for him to accumulate enough justice in order for him to act god only
01:25:37.360acts through justice he does not act randomly he would know if we had no ability to deviate from our
01:25:43.660our sinful nature, our desires of the flesh, our animalistic nature.
01:25:48.240If we had no, it would have happened a long time ago, for sure.
01:25:51.120But if we didn't have the ability to deviate and to actually do something that was against
01:25:55.680our own nature, then he probably would be able to pick the exact minute where the iniquity
01:26:03.360filled up and it was time to go in exact justice.
01:26:07.740But keep in mind, he gets valued two ways.
01:26:10.680He gets value from evil, and by value, I mean enough judgment value.
01:26:15.820He could also get it from good, and he gets more from good.0.89
01:26:18.620If Christians had obeyed the Great Commission sooner, God would have accumulated enough0.91
01:26:23.640value within maybe a couple hundred years.0.99
01:26:26.260But because the church keeps declining, it's taking longer because there's more value in
01:26:32.100doing good things than there's value in doing bad things.
01:26:34.740It's something that we call dollars versus pennies.
01:26:37.080If I want to get to $100, if everyone gives me a dollar, I only need 100 people to give me a dollar.
01:26:43.240But on the other hand, if no one's going to give me a dollar and I have a bunch of people giving me pennies, it's going to take a lot longer.
01:26:51.220So if the church were doing what they were supposed to do, evangelize the entire world, make disciples of all men, God would say, I have enough value now.
01:31:40.660Because he purchased it from a woman at church, at his church, which means a woman from his church came here, saw this, took a picture, got it, redone by AI.
01:31:49.960She did like it, liked it enough to make her own, and then is not going around telling people, hey, by the way, I stole this design.
01:31:56.280She's going, look at this thing that I made.
01:32:07.640They have built also in the high places of Baal to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it.0.68
01:40:48.400God reacts in those ways, meaning that something exceeded his expectation or something did not meet his expectation, meaning that he couldn't have known the expectation.
01:40:58.100You know, if you go back, by the way, historically, and you look at, let's say, any institution that wanted to monopolize the understanding of Scripture and act as an authority on Scripture, which those things still exist, right?
01:41:12.100you can't understand it unless you go through the church fathers or the proper channels etc etc
01:41:17.420they don't tell you hey go and read your bible read scripture and find out for yourself which
01:41:26.060is something you routinely say on this show is like go and find out for yourself don't just
01:41:29.760take my word i've literally heard you like you said it in this episode don't just take my word
01:41:33.680go and look it up and then if you find anything that is to the contrary show it to me right0.98
01:41:39.300Because people are going, oh, he's a liar.0.98
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