Nephilim Death Squad - February 28, 2026


Inverted World w⧸ Shane Cashman


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 13 minutes

Words per Minute

206.23926

Word Count

27,590

Sentence Count

20

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

47


Summary

Top Lobster's Shane Cashman joins the show for the first time in almost a decade! Shane talks about his time at Brohemian grove, how he got his start in comedy, and how he became one of the funniest people on the planet.


Transcript

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00:01:21.760 welcome black ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad i am david lee
00:01:28.200 corvo aka the raven that is top lobster switch the camera the father of disinformation we need
00:01:33.880 a higher search we need a small asian person to sit in the corner of the room and press the
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00:02:03.740 grove and discount codes off of merchandise from top lobster.com show a shirt let's show a shirt
00:02:11.400 what shirt we got oh you know what i'll show the one i'm wearing today oh we haven't seen this one
00:02:15.560 in a while yeah retardio retardio return to god people it's a good time to do that i mean it's
00:02:20.180 always a good time to return to god but maybe right now it's uh it's an imperative guys joining us
00:02:25.280 today actually for the first time we've hung out and talked to him since basically brohemian grove i
00:02:30.280 had the pleasure of having a phone call with him not long ago but this is the first official one
00:02:33.760 welcoming back to the show shane cashman shane thank you for coming before we get into all of this
00:02:40.240 let's talk about where people can find your work and support you things of that nature yes sir well
00:02:45.360 thanks for having me guys you can find me online on twitter and instagram at shane cashman the show
00:02:49.980 is inverted world live on youtube and rumble monday through thursday at 10 p.m and uh you can buy my
00:02:55.640 books at shane cashman.com very nice um you know i i we haven't had the pleasure of of talking
00:03:03.160 it's a great photo she's a killer he's a killer online man we uh yeah actually by the way that's
00:03:09.080 worth mentioning you know when you were at brohemian grove uh you tried your hand at stand-up was the
00:03:14.860 first time right first like official time yeah tripoli actually had me he asked me that day to
00:03:20.520 open up for him uh and it was awesome it was awesome dude it was great you're a you were a natural
00:03:26.720 a killer what you were doing was you were basically taking your tweets which are bangers and you were
00:03:32.040 saying well maybe i should i think tripoli actually recommended this to you you should be reading
00:03:35.980 these tweets and so i remember just watching you go through your phone and just read these tweets you
00:03:41.560 know the way that you type them out is very much the way that you speak so the translation was perfect
00:03:46.060 and um i know since then you've you've done it a few more times right didn't you like open for
00:03:52.180 tripoli in jersey or something yeah tripoli had me open up on uh new year's eve it was an awesome show
00:03:58.200 at uh at the dojo which is a great club i've done a few performances there before and uh i do that
00:04:05.060 place rules and to be with tripoli someone i've i've listened to tripoli for like more than a
00:04:09.940 decade you know so it's crazy to be hanging with him uh i really respect him and and it was awesome
00:04:16.200 so it's brohemian grove like the first official time and crazy because it was tripoli one night and
00:04:21.060 then owen the next night such a great great weekend i can't thank you guys enough for having me be
00:04:25.700 involved in that and then and then like my first like get like gig at a comedy show was with a
00:04:31.520 tripoli again at the dojo and that was a great way to start the year you know what's even cooler um a
00:04:37.380 little lore for that whole situation so you know when you came to uh mc for brohemian grove oh this
00:04:43.620 is yeah this is a great this is so cool man we so we put you up in a hotel that's not far from here
00:04:48.600 well no it's actually quite far yeah probably like two miles yeah yeah yeah and um and while you were
00:04:54.060 there you told us that you you took to walking around and uh and kind of scoping out the villages
00:05:00.320 because it is a it's a sight to behold it's a bizarre kind of place here the villages it's disney
00:05:04.700 world for retirees and you ended up at a coffee shop on more than one occasion during your stay
00:05:12.440 and you use that coffee shop to uh you know it was kind of the home base for you writing your jokes
00:05:17.780 and um and that coffee shop turned out to be the standard coffee shop so before this is cool for
00:05:24.720 the audience before we ever set up uh nds studios in here before we had even met matt heppner uh you
00:05:32.540 were here writing your jokes for for our event uh it's just a a really kind of serendipitous
00:05:40.040 there we go we made i love i love that coffee shop i would drive to florida for that coffee shop
00:05:46.560 like the coffee is so good and i just remember getting up early thank you guys for that hotel
00:05:52.160 room it was awesome but it was such a strange scene that the villages i've heard about them
00:05:57.540 for a long time you know i've been i spent a lot of time in florida growing up but never in that part
00:06:01.920 of florida and uh i just was like i'm gonna take a long walk and write while walking and then i come
00:06:08.160 upon this coffee shop that happens to be christian i'm like that is amazing so i walk in love it love
00:06:13.480 the coffee uh saw the library in the back took a seat at the big table by the entrance and then
00:06:19.340 wrote out all the jokes on the paper i would use that night at rohemian grove and did the same thing
00:06:23.260 uh for the next day and uh man that place rules it's so bizarre that you guys now are in there doing
00:06:29.720 a show uh it's you know i think god likes to make his stories cool you know that i think that's what
00:06:36.400 happened there because we didn't even know that for a while until i ended up uh talking to you
00:06:41.120 about the other studio and you said oh my god that's the place that you know i went and i said
00:06:45.220 what are the odds of that and i'm just in this place where the odds are probably like close to
00:06:49.000 zero like i said close to zero this shop is behind a dunkin donuts and also kill business behind like
00:06:55.780 a foxtail coffee which i'm probably going to get sued for mentioning them oh yeah i'm not allowed to
00:07:00.360 don't do that unbelievable dude cease and desist incoming um so yeah i mean definitely a serendipitous
00:07:07.760 moment there and it just uh it makes it that much cooler you know the way that these things all
00:07:12.760 panned out we haven't talked to you since you know basically brohemian grove we had a phone call
00:07:19.000 because i had to reach out to you um a lot has changed since then right we were some wild boys
00:07:25.200 oh yeah cashman bore witness to um some some obscene things some obscenities yeah that was a
00:07:32.760 that was a wild time and i do apologize for that shade i i would like to know what all right
00:07:37.320 realistically what did you think about what happened there was it uh i know it was it was fun it was
00:07:42.720 cool yeah the whole thing was cool but we didn't get to check in with very many of the performers at
00:07:48.280 all about like are you still having are you guys okay mentally like what did you think about that
00:07:53.160 because that was um that was maybe we achieved something there we we made something pretty big
00:08:00.820 um in my opinion at least and um it was it was pretty crazy i don't know what what did you think
00:08:07.640 what was your takeaway afterwards yeah i i had a great time i mean there was there was a few more
00:08:13.080 shirtless men there than i would have liked uh my apologies and and that what's your homie's name
00:08:18.940 who like he lost a lot of weight he looked like he was gonna die the next day
00:08:22.580 alex um was it alex he was in uh he was in um oh color gang cole cole like he he was telling me
00:08:31.060 like dude my body's like not functioning right i'm like are you gonna be okay like should you go on
00:08:37.320 stage uh i was actually genuinely worried for his health uh i think he was gonna make it he's like
00:08:42.580 turning green in front of me uh but he was like doing that competition but um dude i laughed the whole
00:08:48.420 time i'm the the craziest memory uh is sitting on stage with you guys and jake owen and tripoli so
00:08:57.740 first of all just the owen and tripoli connection happening was rad so cool but we're on stage
00:09:03.900 finding out that trump bombed iran right and so like i don't know someone whispers in my ear i think
00:09:12.020 it was david it was me like it was like it was bush on 9 11 like reading the books for the kids
00:09:18.020 and then i tell i don't know who i told next to me and they're like i think we got to talk about this
00:09:22.840 and uh it was such a crazy and then and then we had the trump impersonator who happened to be in the
00:09:27.480 crowd who came on stage and then read trump's tweet about bombing iran we were dying it was so dude
00:09:34.520 hilarious i remember driving home i drove i started my drive back home to west virginia
00:09:40.120 after that second night i was gonna stay with my parents in uh in where are they north carolina or
00:09:45.560 south i forget which carolina they're in but i was gonna stop halfway i was laughing the whole way home
00:09:49.560 just like hell what a hilarious time um everyone made me laugh you know toad singing heil hitler with
00:09:56.840 owen classic um it was just the audience was great there were so many people there that i've listened
00:10:03.080 to before or done shows with like paranoid american um who i have a lot of respect for uh really enjoyed
00:10:08.880 having him on my show and uh yeah just the vibe was great you know we had all those issues with
00:10:15.560 the club beforehand but it really worked out in the end where we got wound up in a really cool place
00:10:19.820 was the guy was the host's name alex or something his name was alex yeah he looked like me in 10 years
00:10:25.660 i saw alex i saw him the other day in the parking lot actually he's uh he's doing good that's cool
00:10:34.280 i want to have this parking lot this parking lot right outside here you know hey lobster
00:10:39.140 we're gearing up to do it again i don't know exactly when right now we're kind of aiming at june
00:10:45.040 way different if i could just get this lady to respond about the venue we're having
00:10:48.420 go figure problems securing a venue um but yeah i mean we'd love to have you back and this time it's
00:10:54.160 going to be something a little bit different it's um i i don't know i i i want this one to
00:10:58.940 last one was a big middle finger to the cancellation and all these other things this one i want it to be
00:11:06.500 what we're all good at you know what we all do i mean obviously we have comedy and we have conspiracy
00:11:11.820 and we have you know we're we're grounded in in christ and i want that to to come through more
00:11:17.060 which is kind of a a bold pivot given the last one but it's the the true nature of the show and
00:11:23.540 and um and i'm thinking also that it doesn't have to be we went for like this grand slam and we had
00:11:29.580 all these heavy hitters and and uh now i'm thinking it's it should be much more of the friends of nds
00:11:35.280 you know and and what people come to the show to watch and and what they've grown accustomed to because
00:11:41.320 it was almost two separate things almost you know what i mean if you were a fan of the show and then
00:11:46.400 you came and saw that it was like is uh mk ultra trauma kind of um uh experiment but i we're gonna
00:11:54.740 do something a little bit different and i think this one is going to be i i want the people in this
00:11:59.200 community and their ideas and their their outlook on life and the direction that everything is going
00:12:04.160 in and we're going to get into that i want those ideas to shine i want those people's opinions and
00:12:09.200 research to to shine so yeah it's like a it's almost like play time is over yeah that was our last
00:12:14.380 bit of uh unhinged fun yeah if you could call it that and and that there's still a place for that
00:12:21.100 but i feel like that time is quickly moving on especially with like yesterday trump is like hey
00:12:26.440 let's talk about aliens and i'm like all right we're we're here we're here now all the all the
00:12:32.200 stuff we've been practicing for and we've been talking about all the psyops are coming full circle
00:12:37.280 yeah and you know shane's been one of the people that have been really talking about this stuff
00:12:42.720 for like longer than we have i almost i almost don't want to get into that quite yet because
00:12:47.080 there is like a progression and it's very similar the way that we kind of became convicted um because
00:12:54.140 i i don't think you play with god no you you just don't if i'm gonna stand here and i'm gonna tell
00:12:59.600 you that jesus is the way the truth and the life um then there had better be some fruits that come
00:13:06.220 from that and i think that the audience and and just in my own life i know this i've seen it um
00:13:11.020 there's been a conviction and i'm still a lot of the same person that i was i don't think you get rid
00:13:15.540 of it but uh i've i've become a little bit truer in my aim and i and i watched you oh yeah go through
00:13:22.560 this huge moment dude and i know you've probably talked about this on a lot of shows it's just been
00:13:27.280 a while since we got to catch up and i can't touch on it but this viral moment takes place in your
00:13:32.920 life you're on tim cast uh irl you're up there with gary the numbers guy which the audience can
00:13:38.000 attest to is it's probably one of my favorite human beings um and that is uh i couldn't be more
00:13:42.620 sarcastic i have a a deep disdain that i have to mitigate because it's not right to have that kind
00:13:48.220 of resentment for a person we're still praying for i have literally done that and i've prayed to god
00:13:53.860 that this moron can realize you know the error of his ways and be a voice for the kingdom of god
00:14:01.920 you know i i think everybody know there's nobody that's beyond redemption yeah this can happen to
00:14:06.360 anybody so yeah as much as i have uh something that is reminiscent of disdain for him i actually
00:14:11.000 have prayed for the dude to to come you know come to christ you're on this panel and you do something
00:14:20.120 that is um i don't really have another word it's it's profound it's profound because it's unorthodox
00:14:27.620 you're on a platform that doesn't typically showcase this sort of thing that you've done here
00:14:35.220 the entire episode shane you only responded in scripture
00:14:42.540 and then you saw yourself out after some times i i want to talk about this what does it look like
00:14:50.380 when do you get the call to even go on the show with this guy when do you figure like walk me through
00:14:54.220 the timeline of yes going through shane cashman's head that day um so i found out two days prior
00:15:03.220 that was a monday i guess i found out saturday the previous saturday morning on through tmz
00:15:09.560 and through twitter that there was this uh alleged shooting on the property where we all record
00:15:14.400 so i was like that's weird uh but you know it's kind of a part of it like the whole thing
00:15:20.720 people swatting tim that's been happening for years now so it's kind of just used to
00:15:25.760 what you know whatever is going on whoever did it if it happened uh you're like ah it's just a
00:15:31.340 weather pattern at work uh people don't like tim that's fine and uh we've had bomb sniffing dog
00:15:36.400 come through the old studio bomb sniffing robots so i'm like oh that's gonna be interesting thing to
00:15:41.440 talk about monday and uh because there's this whole now it's like this trending story everyone's
00:15:47.120 talking like tmz is talking about all these people fox and all whatever and uh you know
00:15:51.500 it happened what they say happened happened at like where i would have been recording at the hour i
00:15:56.640 would have been there but i don't record friday nights and um that happened like the friday after
00:16:01.320 like the night after like milo yunopoulos was there and i was just like with milo and brought milo into
00:16:05.880 the studio and all that stuff the day before so there's this like weird shift now because people are
00:16:11.520 like whoa we're like tim and them are saying they're gonna leave uh forever uh which he said
00:16:17.500 he said that publicly and so i show up on monday the idea that he was gonna leave like the whole
00:16:22.320 yeah like the whole area operation pick up move elsewhere he said before you know and i we've got
00:16:28.500 roots here now i really like you here i love my church um our kids have friends here our kids have
00:16:32.620 like kind of uh moved around quite a bit the past six years different two different houses just because
00:16:37.060 of work and so i'm here i'm like well they're moving they're moving and that's that's fine i'll
00:16:41.880 do what i can do from home or just do something else and um show up monday i always do tim's show on
00:16:47.760 mondays and uh i had no idea who was on at all uh but showing up there's already like a weird vibe
00:16:54.940 at the studio for whatever went on the weekend and uh they're like all right go upstairs you know
00:17:00.300 there's like managers like uh producers downstairs like i head up i go take my typical seat i have all
00:17:06.080 these other things plan to talk about because pretty much every time i've been on those past
00:17:10.800 few months has been like them talking about what they don't agree with on candace owens it's become
00:17:16.940 like a reaction show to candace sometimes but like i'm the only one who's defending her i like candace
00:17:21.440 you know candace and i had a pretty big disagreement over the eliza blue story she made a whole video
00:17:26.260 about it and then she sent me this crazy message this is like five six years ago five years ago
00:17:31.700 and then we had a wonderful phone call uh it was so nice she was so cool we heard each other out we
00:17:39.060 didn't change each other's minds but like i was like i respect that because if you'll remember no
00:17:44.520 one was happy with me except for a few of you uh but like i still feel the same way about that story
00:17:48.920 and she might but i don't know it's funny because now she says a lot of things that i did say in that
00:17:52.380 story like gang stalking and pr stuff that's weird but anyway i was like i'll never forget that i don't
00:17:58.980 have to agree with everything she says but like i know she's not whatever everyone's saying she is
00:18:03.540 because i've talked to her she was a human being she really didn't hear me out and in the media space
00:18:10.080 which is so godless it is very rare you know like i can see you guys people i actually talk to who
00:18:15.300 are real human beings there's a handful of other people out there um because more or less in the
00:18:20.520 media space there are no friends everyone people will stand on your corpse to get to the next spot
00:18:25.000 uh to it's that ladder of success in the media space is built by corpses of people that you people
00:18:31.260 say we're your friends so go up to work go sit down i'm prepared to talk about candace whatever
00:18:36.560 else is in the news that day and this thing that happened at work um i have no idea who gary is
00:18:43.080 at all until i see his name now on the list and i see he's got the number 33 in his name i'm already
00:18:49.680 like oh geez uh what is this guy and so i'm preparing i typically have my notes i'm writing my
00:18:54.640 notes down and uh he then gary says there's no christians here right in a way i'm like uh okay
00:19:02.900 like he wasn't saying like like my christian brothers he was like in a very mocking tone
00:19:07.060 i just let it go in one ear and like out the other and like whatever i can now i kind of see like this
00:19:11.700 is slob with all these rings on and he's got a leather jacket and i think he's wearing like a raven's
00:19:17.080 hat and very very far and few in between that you you meet somebody who is like openly adversarial
00:19:24.580 against christians and this isn't taking place on the internet so it's a unique situation and so
00:19:29.680 but no one heard that my that wasn't live like he didn't say that part live so no one heard that but
00:19:35.940 like then we go live and so we know we go around everyone says like their introduction whatever
00:19:41.760 and uh i typically have my thing i'm going to promote my show that will be all later that night
00:19:46.960 which i do live and right before it comes to me i'm like whatever i just like a download from god
00:19:55.220 was just like just read scripture tonight and so the first one i started with was one um that my
00:20:02.380 mother-in-law had sent me just a few days prior which i really love and so i opened with that one
00:20:06.260 and uh and then i was just like i kept saying like in my i have this conversation in my head
00:20:12.080 i'm only gonna have this conversation i'm only gonna speak scripture if i even talk and i usually
00:20:16.720 talk a lot you know like i'm on irl quite a bit um and i love that show i have a lot of fun on that
00:20:22.460 show and uh despite you know people will laugh at me for saying things that have been coming true
00:20:28.220 lately but um yeah every time it came around to me you know they start freaking out about candace of
00:20:33.680 course and instead of me like i had these things i was gonna say um but it's like i'm just i was
00:20:38.460 just gonna repeat myself like i've said these things a million times there's no reason to say
00:20:41.340 it again uh it was just like okay i need to speak scripture i need to hear it this numbers guy needs
00:20:47.220 to hear it because he's saying really bad stuff like idolatrous stuff um but i don't like and at the
00:20:53.020 same time tim was really really angry at candace and using language i was just like i thought it was
00:20:58.500 beneath him you know and he's apologized for that uh uh like a week later or so so i remember at one
00:21:07.060 point like i hadn't talked for maybe 30 minutes which is rare and tim's like what does shane think
00:21:11.380 about this i'm like well i don't have to just go to scripture i'm just reading scripture reading
00:21:15.300 scripture reading scripture and then then gary starts mocking it i forget what he's saying but
00:21:19.740 he's like oh your god is not coming back it's been 2 000 years i'm just yeah really like
00:21:25.040 that's like very condescending it's not just condescending that kind of specificity you know
00:21:32.080 when it comes to like your god's not coming back that's like demonic that's like that's not somebody
00:21:36.860 that's going like oh i don't know if as i'm as i'm hearing this now like i only saw your clips and
00:21:43.540 maybe a couple of other clips with you and gary kind of going back and forth i didn't realize that um
00:21:48.260 tim had that the animosity and like the that language toward uh candace in the same clip
00:21:54.440 but now that i'm thinking about it maybe i'm crazy you're i would i would love to have been in
00:21:59.700 that room and to have have been looking at it through the eyes of like balaam after his eyes
00:22:07.480 were revealed you know after the donkey speaks to him and he goes hey hold on a second there's
00:22:11.520 actually an angel here like if you shout out to timothy alvarino if i would if you'd be able to see
00:22:16.920 into the spiritual realm i wonder what you'd see in that room because you have shane who is now
00:22:22.200 like it's almost like like something has put its hand on your shoulder and it's like here read
00:22:25.900 like just speak my word and on the yeah from what i heard from this dude it's blatant antichrist rhetoric
00:22:34.200 which is in america into today in america at this time period at the very least or you know a couple
00:22:39.000 months ago it's almost it's not unheard of but it's very still very brash to go at christ like that
00:22:46.140 to go at christians in general so it's like there is a spirit in this room i wonder if that like
00:22:51.380 had anything to do with the things that were like the anger that's like that was able to manifest in
00:22:57.920 tim like because i don't i don't think tim is really acknowledging this realm or the activity
00:23:04.000 that it could play on a person but like there's something going on in this room tim will say he
00:23:08.980 believes in god but he's he is not a christian and he doesn't believe in like the resurrection
00:23:13.140 but gary was actively getting angrier the more i read from scripture all i did was read scripture and
00:23:19.620 he got angrier and angrier i had never read scripture in a room full of people who don't
00:23:25.780 take it seriously uh serge serge i guess does i i forget what he's christian uh but he's got some
00:23:32.980 denomination he goes by i forget what it is and phil was like a catholic when he was a kid and you
00:23:38.600 know phil did uh text me during the episode being like how demonic is this and i was like yeah
00:23:45.120 extreme which is like you know that's a guy that um that i've had my my odds with uh phil labonte
00:23:53.260 but i was i was pleased to hear because that's like i don't really care about beef between me
00:23:59.520 and another individual as soon as you start to like see what i see or or you know start to
00:24:03.900 i mean identifying that as demonic is like that's awesome glad to hear it i totally saw it and then
00:24:10.100 he said i he said i think shane is wearing the armor of god yeah when people get like a little
00:24:15.040 weirded out that i wasn't saying anything else so i was like you know it's like telling phil like
00:24:19.620 thank you through text and uh you know he didn't have to do it but that was dope of him and uh and
00:24:25.200 then i we kind of sparred i sparred with gary only through scripture uh because he kept talking about
00:24:32.480 what i was saying about god not coming back and all this stuff and mocking jesus and then i always
00:24:37.120 leave early so some people were like he just peaced out but i always leave irl like 20 minutes
00:24:42.980 before the end of the show on mondays because i go get ready to do my show at 10 o'clock so some
00:24:48.260 people were like he just left and i'm like well i always leave it did look like i just peaced out but
00:24:52.940 i was just reading scripture and then got up and left but it's typically what i always do um
00:24:57.220 and uh that was it never you know i never really had a reaction like that from the uh from the internet
00:25:02.680 that was one of the most viral things that i've experienced um well that's what i want to ask you
00:25:07.780 scripture i so how is it received i mean what does it look like going forward you do a bit of a i mean
00:25:16.140 i know you said you had to get out of there early because you got this thing to do but it's a bit of
00:25:18.920 a mic drop right i mean you read scripture only and then you get up and you go do what you got to do
00:25:24.760 um it's a it's a challenging thing to resist the urge to put your own two cents into the situation
00:25:31.340 um especially when you're sitting next to a guy like that i know there's a lot of um you know
00:25:37.260 sort of instinct to defend yourself or defend your ideas and instead you just stick to scripture when
00:25:43.900 that's all said and done you know what's the reaction like from your peers right your co-workers
00:25:49.840 but then the internet at large i mean what is that all because you know i'm biased i look at it and i go
00:25:55.660 that crushes we're showing the clips here at the shop and matt um you know the host of straight bible
00:26:02.620 he's like this guy is awesome like this guy wrote jokes in your shop he's like he to him that's um
00:26:07.700 a feather in his cap to be associated even even you know peripherally uh with you and what you did
00:26:14.940 there you know he sees this and i agree as a huge moment for the word of god as in the platform is huge
00:26:21.000 i imagine the the i don't want to call it fallout because it's it's got to be mixed right what was
00:26:26.880 that like yeah i didn't really hear from anybody after that i think everyone from work that is i you
00:26:32.320 know they were i think so engrossed with whatever was going on and then they you know for those who
00:26:37.100 watch irl they know like right after that i think it was that week they pretty much left for miami it
00:26:43.540 might have been another week or two but soon after that everyone left and i was one of a few people
00:26:48.380 left here in west virginia and uh so i heard from a few people at work and they're like stoked about
00:26:53.600 it um i don't think there's lots of christians there but i don't really there's been a lot of like
00:26:58.320 there's new people there i don't really know and i kind of just like don't go there as often as other
00:27:02.300 people do who work there like i got a family you know i got yeah errands to do and uh bible study
00:27:08.080 at night and stuff like that so you know there's a lot of people there who i they don't know me i don't
00:27:12.360 really know them and they're doing different things different shows but outside of that uh i had just
00:27:18.100 like a crazy response from people online i didn't i didn't expect it and like i just wanted people to
00:27:24.220 hear the scripture you know and uh that was amazing the response from people um i didn't have to say
00:27:30.460 anything i didn't want to offer any two cents because like the only thing that matters is the
00:27:33.620 word right here in the in the bible and that is the shield and my sword and i felt like i was
00:27:39.500 floating out of that room afterwards you know like it really it was a very dark night uh in that room
00:27:45.980 it did not feel good that guy gary was uh you know when i said i'd pray for him at the very end
00:27:52.620 he goes don't pray for me when you pray you become pray i'm like okay what is that i love that dumb
00:27:59.120 word play crap people get caught up in that they'll build entire uh theories just off of like word
00:28:04.820 play i mean i think there may be some and then you know word association that's fair to do he made a
00:28:08.980 video about how like he's gonna come after my kids and convert them i'm like dude that is so
00:28:13.940 demonic that's so evil um but and then oh real quick i mean this is another good insight to how
00:28:19.740 you know maybe some of my cool workers took that night uh when i left the room uh gary said something
00:28:27.700 about like something being ridiculous me being ridiculous i don't forget what it was and then
00:28:32.460 a lot said you don't sound to gary you don't sound half as ridiculous as he does talking about me i'm
00:28:38.320 like dang you know me a lot we can get along outside of the show but like if you've ever seen us on the
00:28:43.940 together we really don't agree on much at all yeah um he's you know he's into he's like a neocon
00:28:49.900 and he's very proudly will say that about himself i am not um and we'll disagree on whatever it is
00:28:55.500 israel epstein you name it um and you know it is what it is but i thought that was a pretty interesting
00:29:00.800 insight into him and how he saw that um so that's why i made sure to include it in my clip
00:29:06.380 i thought it was it made him look you know obviously i'm biased um i thought it made him
00:29:11.360 look retarded especially just given if you know who this guy is and look i i'm gonna say is that guy
00:29:17.540 uh uh does he follow judaism or is he just like a non-secular well i think he he's jewish i don't
00:29:25.180 know if he actually practices you know i think like a lot of modern jews in america especially
00:29:29.560 from new york they just say they're jewish i don't think there's any like you know i have friends
00:29:33.840 who are orthodox jewish and they don't agree with israel they don't like netanyahu and they
00:29:38.740 don't like people who just say they're jewish but don't practice right uh you know you look at the
00:29:42.840 haredi jews who actually think israel is a heresy to have a state of israel the government is heresy
00:29:48.600 before their messiah comes obviously we disagree on that with the messiah but um it's just interesting
00:29:53.200 to think about the levels of judaism and like you know orthodox jews really don't i don't say they
00:29:58.060 they don't like lesser jews who don't practice judaism but they obviously see as like a well
00:30:03.600 aren't you really jewish right if it's like being christian but like you don't read the bible you
00:30:08.400 don't believe in christ you don't believe in the resurrection like well what what is this this is
00:30:12.720 not right so i think that's what a lot is but he's very he gets very emotional about it if you question
00:30:17.040 it and um you know i just think it's ridiculous well did you did you read any scripture from the
00:30:23.080 old testament uh yeah well well i guess not technically old testament i did read psalms um but
00:30:29.880 like i guess if for the jews you know they don't have that in theirs but uh and obviously our old
00:30:36.460 testament we have it so i was reading from psalms i don't think maybe i read some proverbs um but i
00:30:43.240 love the psalms the psalms are just incredible like i was just reading psalm 73 it's so gangster
00:30:49.360 uh it's like more like you can have metal lyrics that hit hard but this is more metal than metal
00:30:54.660 bands you know like it's like every there's love there's love poems in here hardcore songs about
00:30:59.180 your enemies um you know just the fear of the lord it's so good but yeah i went mostly went through
00:31:04.220 uh i think it was mostly a lot of new testament stuff with some psalms in there but uh yeah i guess
00:31:09.400 i just sound ridiculous to those who don't take it seriously which is fine you know it showed me
00:31:14.180 how powerful i know how powerful the word is but when you say in a room full of people who don't
00:31:19.680 take it seriously who actually want to mock it you can feel the word actually like materialize in a
00:31:25.760 room and actually have a profound effect on people and they have like chemical reactions like like
00:31:32.540 legion right like yeah you know legion we are legion they know they can instantly tell this is christ
00:31:38.720 and um you know obviously maybe not just like that but the word had this crazy effect on gary in
00:31:46.340 particular that i had never experienced and he was squirming i mean i don't know serge caught every
00:31:52.080 he went back and forth pretty well for our interaction but i'm watching and this guy he
00:31:56.840 was sitting right next to me i'm at the end of the table i have tim to my right and gary to my left
00:32:00.300 right next to me and he is visit like physically like almost like um trying to get away from the word
00:32:08.020 squirming squirming yeah yeah exactly it was really bizarre this is a guy that got on my radar a long
00:32:15.000 time ago can i can i just say something about this it's like it's also a little bit of inside
00:32:19.120 baseball but uh with the whole breakup you were part of the whole uh breakup of tower guys a matter of
00:32:23.900 fact i blame shane mostly mostly yeah i would say that's accurate um but when sorry that was happening
00:32:30.140 uh tripoli did a show at uh at clint's studio which i had set up and uh then he shot over and he did
00:32:39.660 rohimi and grove and there were a couple other people at the studio that were doing the shows with them
00:32:44.340 and stuff and and one of them came back and they reported to us they were like because they they
00:32:48.200 don't know that they didn't know the details of why this all happened they're like why why is it
00:32:51.880 broken up why are they here 20 minutes from you guys and not coming yeah what's happening
00:32:57.020 why are they doing uh podcasts with your headlining comedian yeah that you paid to fly out here
00:33:03.240 but they're not coming yeah but they're not coming to the thing but one of the i was like i was
00:33:07.520 like yeah you know it's like all crazy stuff happened and and the guy mentioned to us he's like
00:33:11.060 yeah they just kept harping on this idea that like you guys have went uh christian that basically
00:33:19.040 were phonies yeah and we went we we went so hard into christianity and this is why this is like a
00:33:27.660 big reason for the breakup and i was like that was never it was crazy because that that was never
00:33:31.520 mentioned like the christianity for us has always been implied for me in my entire life it's been the
00:33:37.580 this underlining thing of who i am but obviously you see like you know we're doing comedy we're doing
00:33:44.000 we're talking politics we're talking about conspiracies like i'm multifaceted in that way
00:33:48.020 and it was never something that i led with although now i think things are changing now i'm like because
00:33:53.420 now i'm like okay why did that specifically why was that one of your major gripes with us and and
00:33:59.400 since since then i have spoken to uh some of the people who have you know broken up and like had
00:34:05.360 things to say about us and and we're amicable it's fine but it's still like a little pin that i put in
00:34:10.400 there and i'm like what happened like i never i never like overtly preach the gospel to you i never
00:34:16.480 shoved it down your throat that happened to me as a kid and i won't that's not my style of of uh
00:34:21.600 the great commission of reaching people i just live how i live and if you ask me i'll tell you about this
00:34:26.860 and i guess like how i'm behaving and how even though like we did a racist show yeah it's like our
00:34:33.260 behavior still well i i think the was offensive to you guys in this way and it was just baffling but
00:34:39.080 it is similar like you're in a room full of people who don't believe or take this seriously and you
00:34:44.520 can feel it and when you feel that you can either go oh i better shut up and cower from this or i can
00:34:52.640 be retarded retardio and say what i believe yeah because honestly you're gonna sit here and and say
00:34:58.380 what you believe you believe a whole bunch of bullshit i should i'm gonna do the same thing
00:35:02.500 i'm not worried about the material world right like i'm not worried about people's reactions
00:35:07.520 to that and i i knew i i want to glorify god i knew the audience needed to hear everyone in the room
00:35:13.680 needed to hear and i needed it and i have in the same way that i lost friends during covid lockdowns
00:35:20.680 for saying like the george floyd riots are stupid or i'm not getting vaccinated all those things
00:35:25.580 when i got baptized i lost friends in a in like in ways i didn't expect you know like people who
00:35:33.760 might say they're conservative or whatever um just off my rate just disappeared like and i and i'm not
00:35:40.640 the price i'm like you top like i'm not gonna go out of my way to like force the gospel on you i will
00:35:45.700 find ways to bring it up when i can but like i had the same experience growing up um and being i was
00:35:50.720 atheist for the majority of my life so i was really like averse to it but always like reading the bible
00:35:55.800 in a weird way but like i just noticed that people just seeing you accept christ and that knowing you
00:36:04.940 had this change inside of you that's enough for them to be like i need distance because now they see
00:36:10.400 you as they might see you as less than because they see you as like oh he needs god he needs christ
00:36:15.020 like yeah no we all do um all of us are sinners and i pray for you and you know but i know how i
00:36:22.100 was in the past being so stubborn and being averse to religion um and i know that anyone can be can
00:36:28.060 change that's why when i told gary i was praying for him i didn't just say like i didn't mean it
00:36:31.400 right i'm like because saul became paul right there's people who are really bad people who can be
00:36:36.660 redeemed that's the whole point and it's amazing and you know i've uh not been perfect i am not an
00:36:42.480 angel none of us are so i still try to extend that grace to people even when they've distanced
00:36:47.340 themselves from me pretty like uh you know very clearly what they're doing and right after the
00:36:53.920 the baptism uh with my wife and i did in a river here in west virginia which was pretty sick that's
00:36:59.000 awesome um i loved it but like even the baptism is like something i didn't have to do it you know
00:37:05.220 it was more of like an outward symbolism of i want to show my kids i've had a big change inside
00:37:10.580 right yeah now this is i want you to see how important this is to me right i don't need to
00:37:16.340 do it i guess but like uh i really wanted to do it to show my kids how important that was and uh it's
00:37:21.660 like a proclamation i mean you know there are a lot of things that we do outwardly and inwardly
00:37:28.020 and for for bad reasons you know what i mean you might uh be the type of guy that covers your
00:37:33.860 you know bedroom when you're younger in star wars um you know decor posters and action figures and
00:37:42.140 all these other things that's an outward proclamation that you're making kind of
00:37:45.920 flippantly we make a million outward proclamations bad ones throughout our life um yeah you don't have
00:37:51.300 to be baptized but i think it is when you make this proclamation it's it's the spirit realm whether or
00:37:57.080 not it exists um notices it takes note and and things start to move in a certain way i i got a
00:38:03.840 shout out to uh scott who's uh one of our big supporters is always in the chat and when we had
00:38:09.620 this falling out and tower gang fell apart and we were kind of left in this place of like confusion
00:38:14.840 like what just happened uh scott you know i'm i'm very much new in my walk and i wasn't raised in the
00:38:21.100 church so scripture is something that like everything is new to me and he sent second corinthians
00:38:26.900 6 14 uh and it says be not equally i'm sorry unequally yoked together with unbelievers for
00:38:34.620 what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness and what communion hath light with
00:38:40.600 darkness and that terminology yoked i had to look it up to be like what exactly does that mean
00:38:47.140 and it's a it's a relationship right and for us um there there was a business a real business
00:38:54.320 relationship if you look at where the show is now um there's so many moving parts it's it's become
00:39:01.240 such a big operation and we were really really close to uh and putting in even on paper you know
00:39:09.060 business arrangements and agreements and that was on the horizon we were just trying to get past
00:39:14.140 prohibition grove that was a real thing that was going to take place and god just pulled that off
00:39:20.100 the table and i think that if you're serious about orienting towards god you know you don't have
00:39:29.180 to be this outspoken guy who's like you know like what you did like reading scripture on this show and
00:39:35.480 everything it's like god gives you what you need when you need it as long as you're earnest in your
00:39:40.280 orientation towards him and he strengthens you when you need to be strengthened you know the in your
00:39:45.180 mind i think what i'm getting at is you have all these ideas about what this looks like uh you know
00:39:49.760 to to walk in this way and and to pursue a relationship with god and it's like i think it
00:39:56.200 really is like you know when when they say uh god gives you a spirit of of peace and of sound mind
00:40:01.720 like yeah if you lay these things on him and you don't worry about like well what am i going to do
00:40:08.020 when this happens or what am i going to do when that happens it's like when it happens if you're
00:40:11.080 earnest about your walk with god he's going to strengthen you and embolden you when the time
00:40:15.880 comes there's no reason to even think about those things it's like you didn't go in there premeditated
00:40:20.000 outside of the day before the night before that you were going to read scripture um he puts a thing
00:40:26.260 on your heart and then that thing happens or he removes a relationship from your life and you're
00:40:30.400 you're going to understand later on you know uh i i think it's just it's that's i think maybe what it
00:40:37.280 means to kind of give your life over it's like to give almost your agency over i'm just saying that
00:40:43.500 because there's so much that i think is misunderstood from the outside looking in about what it means
00:40:48.140 which is why i think we confuse a lot of people it's like that's not what a christian is you know
00:40:53.180 nephilim death squad isn't what a christian is um the things they say are the things they do
00:40:57.860 and it's like i don't i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a christian is
00:41:01.740 and i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the spirit of god does in a person's life
00:41:07.140 and what that looks like so that's a scripture that we were reading through on straight bible
00:41:10.700 the other day and uh it's luke i mean it's mentioned a couple of times but in the account
00:41:15.180 of luke uh luke 12 11 and 12 12 and when they bring you unto the synagogues and unto the magistrates
00:41:21.900 and powers take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer or what ye shall say for the holy
00:41:28.980 shall teach you in that same hour what ye ought to say yeah dude and that's mentioned like three times
00:41:33.680 and it's like i mean i'm sure that i've read this as a child but it's something it's not something
00:41:38.620 that i like i was actively knowing you know what i mean not like i referenced this and said oh i should
00:41:43.660 tattoo that on my arm so that i remember it but it is it's like a de facto knowledge like that if you do
00:41:48.960 rely on this thing yeah uh it'll tell you what to do yeah dude i've been going through the proverbs
00:41:54.600 you know i think they're they're brilliant and uh like look at what what is this uh proverbs one
00:42:01.120 seven the fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge fools despise wisdom and instruction
00:42:06.280 and like so much of today is like people pretending to think that people pretending or cosplaying as wise
00:42:12.620 right but it's godless wisdom right and it's people who are married to the material world and then you
00:42:17.780 can look at the people like from silicon valley these like lizard freaks of nature like zuckerberg peter
00:42:22.420 teal jd vance whatever and of a vague and they are trying to manufacture a false heaven on this earth
00:42:30.600 through what they think is wisdom but it's anti-christian it's anti-christ for sure and um
00:42:37.640 you know i don't buy into that at all um and so you know a great little just a little example of that
00:42:43.680 that's so out in the open i'm sure we all know it's it's almost silly to even mention at this point but
00:42:47.700 like the apple design with the with the bite yeah oh yeah i mean like they are very openly saying like
00:42:53.700 we are trying to recreate our own theology here so there's that type of bad wisdom out there
00:42:59.520 but there's also so many people we're talking about um saying like oh nephilim death squad that
00:43:05.020 doesn't look like christian or they can say that to me whatever there are so many people who might
00:43:09.600 be your cookie cutter looking christians who are deep down actually demonic right maybe it's bad
00:43:15.480 theology yeah maybe they're cheaters maybe they do horrible things they're violent and you know i pray
00:43:20.800 for everybody and that you can be redeemed but very dangerous to be out there promoting bad theology
00:43:25.720 you know within your church yes um it's it's just as bad if not worse than a lot of the leftists
00:43:32.400 uh who the right conservative right types always rail against uh who then themselves turn out to be
00:43:38.220 like i mean how many stories we have growing up of like conservative republican caught in a bathroom
00:43:41.900 at you know with a gay lover you know like okay like most you guys are just gay huh um well that's the
00:43:49.240 thing that i think there's like a a special there's a special punishment for those who like proclaim the
00:43:54.160 faith and and and cause people to fall away and if you're like a church in particular and you cause
00:44:00.080 people to fall away um now i think people can misinterpret things and fall away on their own
00:44:04.280 accord and you could have the best intentions and you know but if you're doing something and it's
00:44:07.900 fundamentally wrong and that's causing people to fall away that that to me is like that seems to be a
00:44:13.640 a unique sort of punishment i just want to toss this on here real quick too because shane mentioned uh
00:44:19.220 the idea of the apple computer and uh first apple computer the apple one went on sale july
00:44:26.280 1976 for six hundred and sixty six dollars and sixty six cents it's like they didn't even uh they
00:44:32.960 didn't hide a damn thing they love you know and they i guess they get off on it they still don't
00:44:37.340 they get off on doing in the open like people always like you know if i'm talking about kevin trails
00:44:41.460 or something or or like charlie kirk's assassination whatever that is all about you know it's like
00:44:46.220 why would they make it so obvious i'm like because they actually like you to feel schizophrenic
00:44:51.420 they want you to be mocked for questioning what they do so openly that's like evil doesn't hide
00:44:55.940 i mean some some does but yeah right exactly they fetishize this stuff they want you to see it
00:45:01.800 happening and be like that's how powerful we are you know we'll email about it all the time you know
00:45:06.620 well you can read about it i want to i want to get to this part of this let's get to that i just i just
00:45:12.320 want to say one more thing backtracking to what you said about like uh i think you said something
00:45:17.440 like as you change inside other people uh resent hiss at you they resent your change uh i i agree but i
00:45:26.540 think that like you might be looking at it a little maybe from like a slightly incorrect angle
00:45:31.440 there it's not that they're seeing the change in you it's that they're offended it's it's almost like
00:45:36.980 you're holding up a mirror to them yeah this is what i've noticed because this happened to me
00:45:41.080 like when i was when i fell away from the church and then you see somebody that is walking that like
00:45:46.520 like the right way and they come to you i go oh like i'm i'm offended by it i almost want to hate that
00:45:54.360 person but yeah upon further inspection i realized like no that was just me that was the reaction that
00:45:59.480 i'm having to what you're putting out and like you're not doing it on purpose like i'm not
00:46:04.060 i was still doing all the things that i was doing but like inside of me that change was happening and
00:46:09.560 that light was bright enough to really shine some light and now that other person has to look at you
00:46:13.960 and they have to be introspective of themselves and that's hurtful because a lot of times if i have to
00:46:18.880 be introspective of myself i have changes to do and i've got a lot of things that i have to kill
00:46:23.020 inside myself and nobody wants to do that it's painful it's embarrassing it's kind of like my parents
00:46:30.580 when they get a little upset for me and nance raising the kids in a way that wasn't like
00:46:35.520 how they raised us because it's like they're like uh well we did it and you're fine i'm like am i fine
00:46:40.220 like are my sisters okay but like they'll they'll be like well why would you worry about eating this
00:46:44.940 type of food or doing this or that and then they they see it whether they actually are conscious of
00:46:49.220 it or not they see it as like a slight of their parenting but like we just have new information
00:46:53.900 different information i'm not doing it because i didn't appreciate being raised by them and they did
00:46:58.720 things wrong like we all mess up we're all just learning as we go um but like it is that is a
00:47:03.800 good point it's people it's you're causing them to look inside themselves and uh they some people
00:47:09.580 react in a positive way and some people react in a negative way because some people don't want to
00:47:14.120 um realize or be conscious of the fact that they might be missing something yeah you've illuminated a
00:47:21.480 light in a dark room and i mean you see it politically all the time where it's like here's some new
00:47:26.220 information boomer here here's six million epstein files like take a look at it and now i'd rather i'd
00:47:33.060 rather read about nancy guthrie's kidnapping uh to be honest uh that seems to be more important than
00:47:38.340 the three million epstein files uh about luciferian cannibals and people manufacturing wars all the time
00:47:44.820 this is actually so our canary in the coal mine is the coffee shop and we're able to talk to the
00:47:49.760 the general population here and yeah somebody just asked us again about the the guthrie uh kidnapping
00:47:56.000 and i'm just like i couldn't care less oh yeah yeah yeah but i think uh matt brought that up the
00:48:00.400 other day and i was like did you did you see that savannah guthrie published a book like a year ago did
00:48:05.760 you see this no what is it about in that book after yes yes in that book in that book from a year ago
00:48:14.280 she talks about a family tradition of a family kidnapping come on man once a year swear to god
00:48:20.880 dude it's out there uh it's so bizarre it's all so fake it's so oh yeah well this is so i don't know
00:48:27.560 if you because i just went to the bathroom tradition is that what kidnap the family uh you know uncle
00:48:33.980 cousin sister um i don't know if you if you asked this while i was away but but i i you know as we're
00:48:39.940 getting into this now all these things these great revelations and you know whatever to make of them
00:48:44.560 it's it's a very messy situation but you know you're this guy who has this history on on tim cast
00:48:51.620 of saying what seems to be obtuse outrageous things and you have a great uh comedic you know like a sense
00:48:58.740 of humor so a lot of the way you present these things you know can be funny uh but a lot of truth
00:49:03.740 a tremendous amount of truth is in the things that you're joking about on this show and
00:49:07.760 and that comedy makes it palatable so nobody ever like kicks you out of the room but overwhelmingly
00:49:14.480 on this show it seems that most people disagree with your takes on the nature of reality i think
00:49:21.380 is a good way to put it the craziest thing to me is like when he'll when you go on about the fake
00:49:25.820 clouds and they're like shane's so crazy and then you guys go outside probably smoke a cigarette and
00:49:30.100 there's just like just under the fake clouds yeah well the best the best part was it was actually
00:49:36.140 showing up one monday night and then realizing that the cloud maker was on i had no idea i had
00:49:42.960 no idea and uh i'm like i've been waiting to talk to this guy forever he ghosted me like his his
00:49:48.980 publicist ghosted me i think because they looked up probably his name on my twitter feed and saw that
00:49:52.800 i've just been mocking him for two years and uh but he'd been making the rounds that's a good reason
00:49:58.260 to mock him in yeah he'd been making the rounds he did tim's show and everything i was telling
00:50:02.160 everybody i'm like dude this guy is a fraud and he's a peter teal test tube baby just like jv vance
00:50:06.540 and uh i was like uh i was very polite the whole episode you know except for the very beginning i just
00:50:12.380 said i you guys all make fun of me on this show talking about fake clouds well here's the face of big
00:50:16.920 cloud right here literally making fake clouds and that was it he later would say he had seen things i
00:50:24.540 said online um you know whatever i forget what those things were but they were they were not very
00:50:29.100 nice um but he's mutilating the sky and then we did get into it towards the end of the episode and
00:50:33.860 then we had a debate set up and he bounced he'd ghost me on the debate and everything but um yeah
00:50:39.240 they they like to laugh at me i think sometimes it if i'm not saying it funny i think i'm saying
00:50:45.480 things that sound so absurd that it's easier for people to laugh it off than to accept that it might
00:50:50.100 be a reality and so you know me and phil might like i want to say get into it because like
00:50:54.440 i like talking to phil and he's always asking like questions and he might not agree with the
00:50:58.080 answers but whatever but well one of the things we talk about quite a bit on the show would be like
00:51:05.900 well people don't care about epstein i'm like i think they do and i talk to real people in the
00:51:12.240 real world and they care more about that stuff than they do about the economy now he'll be like
00:51:17.140 well people would say it's the economy stupid and i think that used to be true and obviously people
00:51:21.980 want to afford gas they want to afford groceries but the change that's happened over the past
00:51:26.580 we'll say five or six years since covid really where a large portion of the people thanks to
00:51:30.900 the blessing of covid waking some of these people up to how much they lie to us about everything
00:51:35.420 people are now seeing major things unfold in reality and being like that's fake that's fake
00:51:39.680 that's fake they're lying to us they want to kill us they want to destroy us they want to poison us
00:51:43.060 and it's godless and i'll be like phil the reason the epstein files are important is because
00:51:48.460 all the things you're talking about being important the economy the laws are passing
00:51:53.600 whatever policies we want to debate about they're they're being like puppeteered by people behind
00:52:01.060 the scenes like an epstein so when trump is saying he's running on agenda 47 to obliterate the deep
00:52:07.440 state a part of that deep state is the invisible network that is global that includes a jeffrey epstein
00:52:13.660 who works for every country it seems like israel i mean maybe russia maybe iran who you name it he's
00:52:20.120 us obviously the cia he's got deep ties with cia and massad like he's and it's a lineage thing of
00:52:25.620 like robert maxwell did basically the same thing glane's father so i'm like i get what you're saying
00:52:30.960 but you got to understand it's so much more deeper than that you know because they are passing these
00:52:37.160 laws because maybe they were told to pass those laws and maybe they're told passing because they'll be
00:52:41.080 like if you don't we'll either kill you or we'll release that video we took of you or we'll just
00:52:45.540 make something up and they'll and no one cares because we also develop ai and whatever so i think
00:52:50.980 it's very very important that we talk about it and uh it is funny that after all these years of me
00:52:56.240 saying things like we live in a culture that is promoting human sacrifice whether it's young women
00:53:04.040 going or any age woman going to planned parenthood and killing their baby they promoted this idea that
00:53:09.300 that's a good thing or it's people who are in the upper echelons of society actually doing rituals
00:53:16.360 where they you know kill or harm and the innocent and children uh it's it's it seems to be that we'd
00:53:23.620 be getting insights into that uh cult of them you know in these files and i think it's massively
00:53:30.780 important and i've dedicated a lot of time on my show just reading through them you know for the past
00:53:35.120 three weeks you know and i some it's it's a lot for some people and i understand some people like
00:53:39.620 i just don't want to accept that reality again going back to like why people might laugh it off
00:53:43.400 because it's just easier um and i get that it's something i i've experienced before like writing
00:53:48.540 a story you know about catching pedophiles in ohio with alex rosen and there are people who hit me up
00:53:53.620 be like that's cool you did that but i i just can't read that it's too much and i'm like i get it but
00:53:59.280 you don't have to but you should be aware that this evil is out there and it's at every it's on
00:54:04.160 the fringes of society it's hidden on the fringes of society but it's also everywhere and other every
00:54:09.560 other institution in our society all the way up to the top and beyond that top like the rothschilds
00:54:15.540 and beyond that whatever is above them so yeah this is why nuts this is why it was always difficult
00:54:21.240 to engage with um not only politics but like on the show dangerous retards it's because we're having
00:54:26.580 a conversation about a thing uh it's like the symptoms and not the cause or the you know the
00:54:32.260 origins of the disease and surface level stuff this is why i would you know for a while it was
00:54:36.500 like a joke we made that that clip one time where it was me saying politics is theater like a hundred
00:54:42.600 times across a bunch of different shows because it is it's a theater that is the result of exactly
00:54:48.600 what what shane is describing i want to pull it back real quick to the the face of big cloud it's a
00:54:54.420 fascinating thing what you were subjected to there in that moment shane because what that is is like
00:54:58.100 first they they ridicule and they deny that's not a reality and you're an asshole for saying it's a
00:55:03.700 reality and then eventually um it comes around to admitting that it is a reality but certainly not to
00:55:10.980 the degree that you think it is and then it ends up being the face of big cloud making the rain you know
00:55:16.480 the the the rounds on big podcast you don't understand it's actually good this is the guy
00:55:21.360 this is actually good for you it's sure it does exist but you're wrong it's not bad um and he's a
00:55:26.980 liar and he's a straight up liar that dude is a liar he also says he's christian he he lied right to my
00:55:32.980 face i called him out a christian would never make clouds oh yeah it's not right like he's probably he's
00:55:37.340 he's a christian just like his uh little daddy peter teal is christian you know peter teal is a
00:55:42.120 married gay man who's purchased little boys and clavicular might even be his son for all i know but
00:55:46.220 like they're all fake and uh uh and they probably you know have to sell bags of blood to peter teal
00:55:52.280 so he can try to live longer but um you know he lied to me right there on the show he said we don't
00:55:58.740 uh we're not doing this we don't our data centers uh don't eat that much water and i'm not making rain
00:56:04.640 for the data centers i'm like you have literally said this you said this on sean ryan show like i've
00:56:08.960 i have studied you dude because i have been talking about fake clouds forever and then i
00:56:12.000 saw you actually are quote unquote the rain maker i'm like you i know what you're gonna say i know
00:56:18.540 everything about your little argument and it's totally fraudulent and uh everything he said was
00:56:23.960 like i didn't expect i don't think he expected that like pushback at all because he'd been making
00:56:27.940 the rounds and everyone loves him and he's got like a cool mullet so it's like he's got to be cool
00:56:32.240 um but he's just like the rest of the tech guys and they don't care about humanity he's lying when he
00:56:37.980 says he wants to save the farmers because they're actually all his friends are killing the farmland
00:56:42.100 they're buying the farmland they're plopping down data centers on the farmland and then he's going
00:56:46.340 to make fake rain for the data centers that eat up millions of gallons of water perhaps every day
00:56:50.520 like some of them do do so that guy's uh one day we'll have a debate it sounds a lot like alberino
00:56:57.540 like coming out expecting to be treated nicely everybody likes him because he wears a cool hat and
00:57:01.260 carries a whip and then all of a sudden he got i think this is anybody though anybody who is uh
00:57:05.140 dominant in their field the the person who has the acceptable and allowable opinion about what's
00:57:09.900 happening in their field of expertise when you have somebody that questions them from a justified
00:57:14.940 manner because you know that happens sometimes where people are kind of being goofy with the
00:57:17.780 but like or if you actually hold them too and you go no no i need you to explain exactly what you said
00:57:21.960 these people are like mostly inadequate yeah yeah they crumble it's been pathetic to see actually
00:57:27.040 like time and time again well this this um this idea that you've been sifting through these
00:57:32.000 epstein files um there is it's funny because you're the guy that was like kind of the fringe
00:57:39.160 novelty on the show and then of course you know it seems to be that your last uh major interaction
00:57:44.600 there was reading scripture to uh a numerologist and and now we're in this season where and i'm sure
00:57:52.160 i'm sure you're just you're just um you're covered in in you were rights at the moment you know
00:57:59.020 because we're in this season of vindication and i'm sure what that means shane is that everybody's
00:58:02.460 come to you and gone wow shane you were absolutely correct and that's that's sarcasm because i don't
00:58:06.660 think that shit happens it's weird they're looking at they're looking at shane as he walks through the
00:58:10.460 office and they're like that's the guy that i don't even know why there's like a cognitive dissonance
00:58:15.040 i don't think they have that thought because if i had that thought i'd be like dude you were right
00:58:19.360 let's talk about it that's just not happening the thought that they have is the same thing with
00:58:22.580 the rainmaker dude where they go shane that's clearly not happening you're a crazy person okay shane it might
00:58:27.680 be happening but not to that extent right and then you get this guy coming in they go okay it's
00:58:31.700 happening but it's good yeah yeah so is that what we're experiencing well we're definitely i want to
00:58:36.280 get into some of that because it definitely seems like we're crossing that rubicon oh yeah i'm just
00:58:42.640 making words up that's the right word i don't know if it's the right word but we're now crossing that
00:58:47.500 normalization place where there is this conversation that's being had what's the hyper intellectual
00:58:51.140 atheistic character that used to be really big and sam harris maybe banger you're great dude
00:58:56.760 yeah sam harris i saw a clip i didn't watch it i don't know if maybe we could find this um sam
00:59:02.660 harris saying like well why shouldn't we eat babies which is which is very funny i don't even know if
00:59:07.560 that's real i don't know if ai made it up i'm not saying i'm just saying i saw that clip going viral
00:59:11.480 i don't know if that's real but i want to get into your thoughts specifically shane as somebody who's
00:59:15.700 been sounding this alarm for a long time now we sit in this really weird place where the doj releases
00:59:19.940 but uh 6.5 million files or some shit like that uh you know communications on gmail receipts for
00:59:28.980 any exchanges of whatever purchases and such but then there are other things that are a lot more
00:59:35.600 egregious and a lot of it seems to back the narratives that people like you and i have thought
00:59:41.000 were a reality for a long time um but my conspiratorial nature shane i'm like hitting the
00:59:46.780 breaks and i'm going well why does the doj want us to see this now i think q anon is is a psyop
00:59:53.700 and and this feels strange to me is this is this real or did you find it already uh i sent it to you
01:00:00.840 you sent it to me okay that's very funny we'll we'll put that in the in the back pocket for now
01:00:04.940 what are you making of these files what's your what's your thought on like the temperature of
01:00:08.980 things right now i always warn people you know i've been saying this since the israel stuff started
01:00:15.080 popping off with like uh you know october 7th and everything i tell everyone quite often on twitter
01:00:20.080 to remain suspicious of anything that confirms your bias right and so that's for that's for everyone
01:00:25.600 on all sides and so there's a lot of confirmation bias spilling out of the epstein files indication
01:00:31.680 is a slippery slope right so i i believe there are these evil factions ruling the world um and they're
01:00:40.300 ancient clearly but i'm also like why like you're saying why are we able to see this now
01:00:45.400 i believe is maybe one theory is because they're ushering in something else to take over you know
01:00:51.220 some people's theories is that like the new epstein is palantir which makes sense because palantir is
01:00:55.340 very epstein-esque uh you know it's it's seeing everything it's like this omniscient uh false god but um
01:01:03.320 we are getting a lot of insights if you are to if we are to believe the emails and messages because
01:01:08.660 there's also a lot of like um claims that are uh in these files that are just from people saying
01:01:16.460 this happened to me and like i don't believe all women so you know you can't really believe
01:01:21.600 everything you're reading in the files but i'm also like i'll hold on to that i'll remember that
01:01:26.540 i don't there's no way to verify it but we've seen a lot of the emails that have been confirmed
01:01:30.620 by people whether they actually come out and say like elon musk i did email those um but i've never
01:01:35.100 been to the island but i'm like dude it's weird that you even talk to him if you talk to this guy
01:01:39.160 post 2008 you're weird and you probably even knew before 2008 because like they some of those people
01:01:43.940 say like everybody knew what he was doing even before 2008 with the first conviction so shane i
01:01:49.040 was bummed out because there's a fantastic researcher in the space rupert sheldrake who like does great
01:01:54.520 research on the psychic phenomenon and like real observable ways predictable ways and and he's shown a
01:01:59.620 lot of like really compelling data on it and like yeah the dude is in he's he seems to be funded by
01:02:04.260 2015 to 2018 it's like yeah uh is that necessarily uh you know diane powell for the telepathy tapes to
01:02:10.860 the telepathy tapes right but is that necessarily a condemnation and i think what shane just said is
01:02:15.280 the point post 2008 i think it's a condemnation i think that's a definite you know if you're gonna
01:02:21.480 take money from someone or have this like weird relationship through email or visit him post 2008
01:02:29.080 uh that says so much about your moral character you know we've seen howard lutnik our commerce
01:02:33.740 secretary completely lie openly we've caught him in a lie about it we've seen the files he's had to
01:02:38.880 address them so it's confirmation that a lot of these messages are real so i'm looking at a lot of
01:02:43.760 these messages and being like you know what so one thing that surprised me like what you're saying
01:02:47.600 with sheldrake was the ban and stuff ban and someone i've pretty much defended i you know i've
01:02:52.160 like a lot of things he says you know um and i was aware of the fact that he had made a documentary
01:02:58.740 of epstein so when i heard that years ago i'm like well okay i'm not weirded out by that because i
01:03:04.380 think you should be able to make a documentary write a story about anybody you write one about hitler
01:03:07.220 you write one you can go talk to putin go talk to everybody you know make a documentary now though
01:03:11.920 that narrative is way different you know then at first it was like he was doing a rehabilitation of
01:03:16.820 his character like okay that's bizarre um yep that's a line too far for me but then it's way
01:03:22.520 deeper than that then it's like messages between him and um epstein talking about how they can take
01:03:26.940 out a pope how they can take out uh these editors how they could take out someone within the trump
01:03:30.740 administration 2016 and and he's calling epstein god there's a picture of epstein sitting on bannon's
01:03:36.220 lap i'm like how do you explain that away and so bannon did come out yesterday and he was like well
01:03:41.140 you got to look through all these messages uh through the lens of a documentarian making a documentary
01:03:45.480 i'm like dude that's a line too far for me um i don't think you can say those things morally
01:03:51.080 and and and not have a corrupted soul uh when you're talking to someone like epstein who is a
01:03:57.420 degenerate evil and i'm saying is i think he's still alive and it's intense here with epstein but
01:04:02.440 like i don't think i don't buy that narrative that it was just for a documentary one of the reasons
01:04:07.520 being is like epstein told bannon um you should start a media company to avoid trouble and then he
01:04:13.800 started war room you know so i'm like that doesn't sound like it's documentary connected so that's
01:04:19.320 very upsetting to me and um you know the the conversations between so for one one reason
01:04:24.660 before i go to the next part that shows me uh more of like one of the things out of this files i think
01:04:29.700 is very important for a lot of people to understand is like the right left thing is so stupid we know
01:04:34.300 the left is retarded the right is also very retarded i'm christian i like to vote for people who would
01:04:39.220 do christian uh have uphold christian values but i'm probably not going to vote anymore because i think it's
01:04:43.400 a waste of time uh look what trump did you know he embraced all the uh techno the tech vampires that
01:04:48.860 you know we just talked about day one day one dude with project stargate so i'm over that but and
01:04:54.940 you're seeing though behind the scenes these messages between whether it's bannon peter teal
01:05:00.520 shane can i just tell you something uh that might you probably already know about uh operation stargate in
01:05:06.700 the 70s right of course yeah okay so that's like that all that has all to do with uh like astral
01:05:13.080 you know the astral plane remote viewing astral plane we're not getting into that um ufos shit like
01:05:20.700 that but that's all started from uh that's all uh started from andrija puharic's work work in the
01:05:27.180 1950s and it's like they have just they need they rebranded it they didn't even bother to rename it and
01:05:32.340 they just picked up kept it the same name they picked up the same work but they're using uh more
01:05:36.220 like technologically advanced form of this ai which i think is the same thing as this what does a
01:05:41.380 tripoli say hardwired mysticism it's hardwired mysticism it's like channeling but through the
01:05:45.880 internet and i'm just like man like what are we looking at here and how have we not put these pieces
01:05:50.340 together yet and and like so we're talking about like telepathy telekinesis i forget which word it is
01:05:56.380 but elon is actively maybe he already did trying to um copyright that word telepathy he patented both
01:06:03.880 patented right yeah functions of neural link like uh i think telepathy would be the function of the
01:06:11.240 app that you click to read shane's mind and telekinesis would be to move this thing without
01:06:15.680 my hands yeah they're all in on this you're so you're so that's so true it's like we're watching
01:06:21.500 the evolution of the stargate project now they're manufacturing it in their own way and then to go
01:06:27.840 to the files with the epstein stuff they're talking about how they could inflict trauma on people to
01:06:32.840 unlock psychic abilities whether it's on an individual uh using things like there's things
01:06:38.000 in here about like uh skull to voice uh voice of skull technology um different mk ultra experiments
01:06:44.080 um there's robot mosquitoes in there as well which are interesting but like yeah they're trying to
01:06:50.440 build it now with this technology and uh it's that's just not a conspiracy like people write
01:06:56.740 it off like they've been doing that so totally agree with that but like the beyond that as well
01:07:02.200 is all this all this stuff out here in this world is so fake down to wars i mean we know that but like
01:07:08.560 you're watching them talk about whether it's with bannon or teal or the guy who runs barclays
01:07:14.880 just keep the people confused in chaos by making a war or how can we start a war and then profit off
01:07:22.180 of it or how can we collapse that nation do a regime change and then profit off of that and then also on
01:07:27.400 top of just profiting off of it monetarily um with like currency maybe we can also traffic kids out of
01:07:33.820 there which is like one of the investigations now in turkey they're saying that this came out with the
01:07:38.580 files after the earthquake in turkey i think it was 98 99 thousands of kids went missing and perhaps
01:07:44.000 epstein was involved to some degree i don't know yet that's what that's an allegation and now an
01:07:48.280 investigation that is happening in turkey but that also might remind people of what happened in haiti
01:07:53.560 after an earthquake when a lot of kids went missing and oh the clintons were involved with that
01:07:57.920 by the way i looked that up in the in the files and epstein was uh uh helping fund relief efforts and
01:08:06.040 and you know was part of a trip down there so i guess independently of the clinton foundation at the
01:08:11.100 time although i'm sure not really independently but the clinton foundation is the number one
01:08:15.280 culprit when it comes to that story but if you go and you look to just do a quick search on like
01:08:20.680 haiti earthquake in the doj files and you'll find that uh he was being reached out to by people to
01:08:26.180 fund the relief efforts to take trips down there and and you know this is the question i have here
01:08:31.000 who's who's creating the earthquakes now we get real crazy i mean the same thing that you know
01:08:36.880 earthquake machines i you know maybe in the next three million files we'll find out who is
01:08:41.240 funding the earthquake machines i do believe in that we know russia i mean when i say we know i'll
01:08:45.560 say russia says this but then everything is propaganda so it might not even be true but they
01:08:49.280 have talked about having the tsunami bomb where they can create something they can create a tsunami so
01:08:54.340 dude they're making clouds they're making earthquakes they're making uh tsunamis it's this is
01:09:00.120 this is what i mean when i talk about the simulation we're not in a computer generated simulation
01:09:04.000 they've taken the organic god's green earth and then over that laid yes this like fake reality
01:09:10.700 where they can manipulate anything from war to like the person walking into your grocery store with a
01:09:16.600 gun because they've made him hear voices everything vindication is is weird because it's almost
01:09:21.720 exhausting like somebody in the chat mentioned harp chuck shout out chuck from guam uh mentioned harp
01:09:26.420 and it's like yeah dude uh the idea that they were pumping microwaves into the ionosphere
01:09:33.080 to create localized earthquakes and and weather phenomenon has been around for an incredible
01:09:39.820 amount of time which is say we've spent an incredible amount of time being gaslit you know
01:09:45.140 what i mean i called harp i called harp once you know that you called harp because i i was i was
01:09:51.640 investigating a story about uh these 200 birds that fell out of the sky back in new york i remember when
01:09:57.480 that was happening dude yeah and i was like uh i was like one of my theories was like well the ionosphere
01:10:03.580 because um the birds that fell out of the sky near me i forget what town that was washingtonville or
01:10:08.520 something but um they had they were migratory birds so they had cryptochromes cryptochromes they use the
01:10:14.780 ionosphere to migrate and so the harp affects the ionosphere so i'm like i'm just gonna hit up heart
01:10:21.640 real quick and i talked to the scientists and i was like trying not to sound too schizophrenic but it's
01:10:26.220 pretty hard and you're like i'm writing a story about birds flying out of the sky and uh they're
01:10:30.020 like well we do shoot a beam like a laser into the ionosphere but it's only very localized and it
01:10:36.900 doesn't ripple out i'm just like this is bs like there's no way it's like water like they're just yeah
01:10:42.760 you're gonna contain that causing issues um outside of just above harp uh and i think it's just it's
01:10:49.420 very weird that the uh these birds with cryptochromes who need the ionosphere happen to be falling out of
01:10:55.300 the sky by the hundreds or the thousands and people could say what was fireworks here or this
01:10:59.740 and that but like the one that i know about didn't happen it's weird it's super weird so i remember
01:11:04.680 that dude they were like it's fireworks and the and the and they're making the birds crash into you
01:11:09.220 know all kinds of crap trees and everything like that and there were trees that had rings of dead
01:11:13.500 birds around them yeah there was uh there was a period of time where uh conspiracies were popping
01:11:19.000 off and they were like mass die-offs those were fun conspiracies right just those were fun that
01:11:23.040 the big noises the big noises were fun too it'd be like this metallic scraping down that would fill
01:11:30.060 you know every inch of the atmosphere and people wouldn't be able to figure out where it was coming
01:11:34.680 i think they were probably drilling at the time uh for you know these underground bases or something
01:11:39.380 like that yeah and i think that you hit a certain kind of stone or something with that drill and it's
01:11:44.760 going to like vibrate and make this unbelievable sound we know when portals open i mean that's an
01:11:49.640 interesting thing too yeah it's like a they describe as a large heavy metal door scraping
01:11:54.980 sounds a lot like that because i used to say it sounded like god uh pushing a desk across the
01:11:59.160 ground like you know like a desk in school if you move the teacher's desk um so this vindication you
01:12:05.960 know it's a really weird time we got our hands full right as as people who are pursuing the truth and
01:12:11.640 then and then trying to like make content about it it's like how could you right now with 3.5 million
01:12:18.020 documents out um they're going to be revelation after revelation after revelation and i made a
01:12:23.840 tweet a couple of days ago maybe maybe uh the day after the first wave of fc files they were dropped
01:12:29.900 on a friday so that saturday i said look out for three things um or i'm at least looking out for three
01:12:35.760 things the full economic collapse the collapse of the dollar um israel versus iran which i think
01:12:42.680 i want to say here on on paper if it's america versus iran well that's still israel versus iran
01:12:49.320 and um and the third thing was alien disclosure yeah and i have a tweet here uh if you can pull
01:12:56.460 this up on on stage top this happened last night so it's really fantastic time to have you on uh
01:13:01.440 shane because it's like just one fun thing after another thing keeps happening um based on the
01:13:07.760 tremendous hold on a second so based on the tremendous where the hell is the thing i'm sorry
01:13:14.760 interest shown this is from donald trump um i will be directing the secretary of war and other relevant
01:13:21.580 departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files
01:13:25.540 related to alien and extraterrestrial life unidentified aerial phenomena uaps and unidentified flying
01:13:32.700 objects ufos and any and all other information connected to these highly complex but extremely
01:13:38.260 interesting and important matters god bless america and as um my favorite intelligence asset
01:13:46.140 and i do mean that with uh with the most grace alex jones says over the weekend obama announced that
01:13:53.300 aliens were real and four days later trump says brace for disclosure and he goes on to say i would say
01:13:58.200 this is just another epstein distraction which is a a fair take uh but trump has been promising to do
01:14:03.460 this for years trump orders declassification of all evidence of ufos etc etc so yeah that's just off the
01:14:09.660 back of like uh a pretty flipping something that i really didn't read into too much i did think it
01:14:16.600 was interesting just given the climate you know the cultural climate the social climate of uh ufo disclosure
01:14:23.540 when obama says i think they're real i haven't seen any that's pretty much the extent of what he said
01:14:28.640 um and i go that's an interesting little drop in the bucket you know what i mean you have a guy like
01:14:32.280 obama saying that and then yeah a couple of days later trump goes oh he shouldn't have said that and
01:14:36.520 then he says that he he really he said something that was classified which is also fascinating i don't
01:14:41.080 think that that makes any sense given the context like very excited to be like i'm glad he said it
01:14:45.560 because now we could release this stuff yeah yeah and so to me it's all a song and dance i don't think
01:14:50.900 obama genuinely said anything he wasn't supposed to say or anything like that this is just do you
01:14:56.000 know this podcast this guy has like millions of followers i guess never heard of whatever podcast
01:15:00.000 he was it's incredible and you know maybe we were living in our own ecosystem but i'm just like a
01:15:05.100 couple of these guys yeah american alchemists as one of them like who wait how was i not aware of
01:15:10.000 this where'd you come from the expert how did you get the president united states on this i don't even
01:15:14.340 know her show i don't even know if that's what he was on i have no idea what platform he was on i
01:15:18.340 i don't really watch any podcast but i know that yeah um but you know just a slow clap for me because
01:15:25.660 i swear to god we're gonna we're gonna nuke iran tomorrow or something uh and then of course you
01:15:30.720 know disclosure happening um and all we need now is the collapse of the dollar so um look these things
01:15:36.640 are not difficult to have predicted in in fact they're incredibly in my opinion low-hanging fruit
01:15:42.860 very obvious um i didn't make a call that was profound it resonated with a lot of people i think
01:15:48.420 that's because a lot of people could see that as a high likelihood now here we are what's today's date
01:15:53.020 it is february 20th and this donald trump tweet was just from yesterday what do you make specifically
01:15:59.900 shane of like where we're going next because i have a feeling and i have said this for a while
01:16:08.040 that the epstein files would be released when we were ready for the next part of the play the theater
01:16:13.580 the script i think that's what's happening what do you think is coming yeah i i think they're ushering
01:16:19.540 in the next shift in human perception and they're going to want to shift and it's not going to be
01:16:24.720 towards christ you know it's going to be whatever manufactured thing they've been cooking up like a
01:16:29.700 manhattan project uh behind the scenes you know when he tweets out you know because the the
01:16:35.180 overwhelming interest it's like okay so you market tested disclosure and now you think it's okay
01:16:40.500 to release this like if it was that important if this is so like such an existential uh i don't say
01:16:47.840 crisis but this is an existential moment for human nature if you believe in aliens in that hollywood
01:16:53.360 sense which i don't you know you think you just say it now you know they were talking about he's
01:16:58.340 talking about something very serious if you're talking about like just the normal corporate press
01:17:02.840 looking at this through the lens of like you know uh any movie like independence day of aliens are
01:17:08.480 here oh my goodness and not in like a demon sense um at the very least you're saying like people are
01:17:14.320 being taken against their will um experimented on tormented i mean because because the abduction
01:17:21.280 phenomenon is an accepted part of the narrative i don't think they're going to go this far i think
01:17:25.900 i think like the depth that we'll get this is just my inclination of it's like so we have the epstein
01:17:30.860 files and we need a good distraction and a good distraction is going to be a recovery from the
01:17:35.480 economic collapse that we're about to experience and uh like in the introduction of the technology
01:17:40.780 is not something that's going to be beyond them i know imagine saying this on tim cast like i actually
01:17:45.860 disagree though i don't think that alien disclosure that seems to be the conventional take is that alien
01:17:51.560 disclosure is to distract because last time the epstein files kind of came up in a big way uh john
01:17:56.660 podesta and hillary clinton rebranded uh ufos into uaps and then started that conversation and
01:18:02.220 you know people looked at it as like a an attempt to divert attention and people are saying the same
01:18:07.640 thing now but that was never the lens that i looked at it through i said that if this came to pass it
01:18:11.900 was because they were ready for the next state and that next stage i think is like this great deception
01:18:16.060 where the nature of reality shifts dramatically um by way of narrative control and so i don't think this
01:18:23.700 is i think this is just like step one is release these things step two is alien disclosure step
01:18:28.000 three is you know the economic collapse uh nuclear war where there's an alien intervention uh a recall
01:18:34.860 and consolidation of a one world currency and and you know a one world government under these things
01:18:39.620 like i think this is all they're not meant to obfuscate one another they're meant to be a series of
01:18:44.440 traumatic events that ushers in a new era i think they've reconsidered how to do blue beam if blue
01:18:51.060 beams real which i think is something they've definitely talked about they they chose not to
01:18:56.080 do it in this giant hologram thing perhaps but that they were like okay people aren't going to buy it
01:19:02.000 like that we need to slow drip this information into their consciousness over time uh and slowly get
01:19:09.200 to this new point where we will create something i don't know what it's gonna be maybe it's ai maybe
01:19:14.440 you know like um annie jacobson once said that she had a source in area 51 that told her they took
01:19:19.820 autistic kids and turned them into extraterrestrials to scare the soviets but even that story might be
01:19:24.940 sketchy but anything's possible they're going to try to show us something and get most people on
01:19:31.220 board in the same way that they got a lot of people on board to get vaccinated and then if you're not on
01:19:36.040 board with that narrative we're going to go through the whole cycle again of like oh you're crazy for
01:19:40.260 doing this you can't be trusted maybe there'll be lockdowns because of this you know because there's
01:19:44.460 people talk about uh climate lockdowns but now we could enter an age where you know we don't there's
01:19:49.260 something in the sky they're going to come here any moment and people are going to freak out about
01:19:52.260 this new invisible enemy and that all it's about is control so i don't think there's anything like i
01:19:58.680 mean i think there's demons i know there are um i don't think there's aliens in that sense of like
01:20:04.380 little green men and flying saucers but i it seems like they're going to go with that narrative
01:20:09.920 however people like anna polina luna who i'm pretty skeptical of she has mentioned uh the book of
01:20:16.680 enoch when talking about these demons aliens so yeah it makes me actually really uncertain
01:20:22.480 exactly exactly but i'm like is there a war happening behind the scenes that's like a
01:20:27.700 hyper-partisan war about disclosure on how they try to sell the idea of aliens is it going to be a
01:20:32.800 biblical bent to it does that matter to them it will be more hollywood classic little green men
01:20:38.000 or tall grays whatever um but it or will people even care like i don't know if people are going to
01:20:44.660 get on board that's the other thing is like they might have overplayed their hand i do think this
01:20:49.100 is a distraction from the epstein files we have real world implications allegedly a lot of these
01:20:53.480 people we're seeing people get arrested even though prince andrew was already let out uh we're seeing
01:20:57.460 people resign left and right because they're just mentioning the epstein files they weren't even
01:21:01.100 accused of every of anything um so there's like real interesting stuff that's going on there but trump
01:21:06.320 has been telling us he it's time to move on from the epstein files uh and here he is having this
01:21:11.900 little you know alien disclosure thing just doesn't seem real doesn't seem like it's going to be
01:21:16.800 effective and i'm very curious like you know i just can't help but think of the uh mexican government
01:21:22.140 rolling out those alien corpses a few years ago like what i thought those were cake i think that's why
01:21:27.620 that's why i don't think this this iteration of disclosure is going to be uh of the spiritual
01:21:33.480 nature they're they're still setting that up and i think we accidentally stepped in some shit when we
01:21:37.480 were uh we were battling the people's narratives unknowingly you know we're actually battling uh
01:21:44.740 government narratives but i think what's going to happen here is like if i was if i was the powers that
01:21:49.600 be and i agree with what you're saying i just don't think like the play is is the timing is right
01:21:54.480 for that play but if i would if i were the powers that be i would introduce a technology that would
01:22:00.340 help society and i'd make you be really friendly with this technology and then maybe years later
01:22:06.340 then i'll tell you who gave it to us that's like a childhood's end kind of right now even though
01:22:11.140 you have like fake uh archaeologists saying that they're aliens are not demons i scroll through my
01:22:17.780 twitter feed and people that i don't know i i took a screenshot and there's like five of them in a row
01:22:22.580 yeah and it's like yo these are demons so people are already they're like onto it there's a spiritual
01:22:27.280 awakening happening in a sense of awakening to what i don't know but people know for sure
01:22:31.540 this shit ain't it yeah so this has to be sold in a different way and i think the way that you sell
01:22:36.180 this is uh you know like this is what this is what we can give you i think you're probably right a
01:22:40.880 little while you know you're probably right because that technology well yeah they might they might do
01:22:45.840 something like that hey i'm talking about uh more broadly the like zero point gravity technology is
01:22:52.480 that that i would say that would change that changes so much of our human aspect a lot of
01:22:57.600 scarcities i mean right now eliminated yeah scarcities would be eliminated almost completely
01:23:02.360 when we're talking about just gas or the propulsion model of getting to a place or getting to another
01:23:06.940 place even like how we work how food is transported yeah how labor works yeah in these industries yeah
01:23:12.440 just time in general this this changes everything and it's in a crazy way that introduced to the public
01:23:19.060 even in its if it's in its softest sense in like its most watered down sense if we have something
01:23:24.160 that's better uh than regular gasoline propulsion or even electric propulsion like cars like that
01:23:30.120 we're in a different world and how how the economy responds to that who knows but it changes
01:23:35.720 the dynamic of everything and i think it does it in a better way of course there's going to be drawback
01:23:40.420 like people will be getting like mega cancer and stuff like that but uh well i wouldn't be surprised
01:23:45.240 if they fixed a lot of that but i think you're absolutely right it's like look at how long
01:23:48.440 this operation has been this psychological operation the narrative control the propaganda
01:23:54.540 machine hollywood you know what's been going on since operation paperclip like it's a long
01:23:59.060 time i don't think that they would just i think you're right they wouldn't just do it at the end
01:24:04.980 with a big snap like we would still be in this slow roll i think i keep bringing up like arthur c
01:24:09.140 clark's childhoods and if they do introduce these uh technologies that improve all these systems
01:24:15.580 let's say the the whole cancer industry right like everybody's been saying that's a a bullshit
01:24:19.540 you know operation to just keep the money coming in let's say they fix that let's say there's been
01:24:24.420 like two dudes out there right now that have just said that they they've cured different types of
01:24:28.240 cancers with a multitude of yeah i mean it keeps happening for years but no i mean just in the last
01:24:32.600 three weeks probably a guy with a big like birthmark on his face he's only like prostate cancer right
01:24:38.260 and there's another person that came out right so so if you do that and then let's say there is like
01:24:43.920 this constant looming of war in the middle east and it and it finally does come to this head where
01:24:49.340 it's a nuclear exchange and these things intervene in some way and then they do the the childhoods and
01:24:55.040 thing where they they pull back it's like just because they intervene just because they make
01:24:58.060 themselves known doesn't mean they're going to make everything about themselves known and we do live
01:25:02.360 in this like utopia for a number of years like yeah that is how you would want to acclimate us to
01:25:07.520 these things so that and then god forbid shane during this time anybody said this is demonic
01:25:13.960 right if anybody said that they'd be standing in the way of progress they'd be standing away that
01:25:19.320 well what's going on with the wars being settled what's going on with the the systems being uh you
01:25:25.360 know having this technology integrated and all the wonderful things that you know have come out of it
01:25:29.840 if you if you stand up as a christian during that time and you go no these things are demonic
01:25:33.460 people are going to go this these things cured my grandmother of cancer you know these things stopped
01:25:39.220 nuclear exchange in the middle east these things made it so that people didn't have to work in coal
01:25:44.680 mines and and you know labor uh looking for cobalt and and and shit like that like all of those things
01:25:51.180 are gone and this is demonic like yeah they'll they'll probably kill you for that so to like try to tie
01:25:56.380 this to the back to the epstein files whether we're talking about your like the cyclical nature of
01:26:01.600 disclosure and how long it takes for them to want to drip it out to us um and then like for so so
01:26:08.280 with that route is like in the epstein files you see peter i think it's peter teal and him epstein
01:26:15.480 or no no it's it's bannon and epstein talking about how the elite have a different concept of time
01:26:20.500 uh which is i i take it as like because they're transhumanists most these people are transhumanists
01:26:26.160 teal obviously epstein elon all of them they want to manufacture immortality on earth by marrying
01:26:33.180 their digital physical their digital body with their physical body plus whatever other abominations
01:26:38.960 they want to do and so by doing that and by thinking they can live forever or at least longer
01:26:43.320 they have a different idea of not just time but then consequence so they're seeing us with a
01:26:48.700 different we are in a different time you know zone technically than they are and so they know they
01:26:54.180 have to treat us a certain way because that's how they view us um and uh i think that's fairly
01:27:00.740 accurate because if they think they're going to live for a few hundred years or they want to someone
01:27:04.700 like ray kurzweil wants to upload his consciousness to a computer and you know peter teal wants to do
01:27:09.460 you know he had that ambrosia company when you know his bags of blood from young men that he could
01:27:14.620 inject um because of parabiosis studies with mice and um yes yep which by the way like i'm a fan of
01:27:21.380 rogan but he i don't know how knowingly he was doing this if he was complicit but he was like
01:27:26.540 popularizing and normalizing that that line that that idea right there i i look at rogan's show like
01:27:34.320 it's the new laurel canyon like all of these things now that they've been refined all these programs
01:27:38.980 they're being reintroduced to the public but instead of through you know the music industry and such they're
01:27:42.820 using like you know and peter teal's on that show you know peter teal's on that show with no no push
01:27:47.840 back at all you don't have to push back on your guests but i think i think peter teal is someone
01:27:52.220 who's worthy of pushback and uh and then so then he's so peter teal's obviously a transhumanist and
01:27:58.540 then to go back to what you were saying about like um if you stand up from a christian point of
01:28:04.220 view and say this is bad you know that is actually what's happening right now with ai and peter teal
01:28:09.740 where he says you are these are his words you are a legionnaire of the antichrist if you so much as
01:28:16.340 criticize artificial intelligence he had his whole speech like three four day speech about that that
01:28:22.800 was his take i was fascinated about that because he was he was talking about the antichrist and i didn't
01:28:27.660 know i don't know if it was like a walled at the time or something like that you had to buy a
01:28:31.580 subscription to something to watch that thing and also it's it was a four day he thinks greta thunberg
01:28:36.500 is more like the antichrist than he himself i guess you know because he thinks that she's like
01:28:42.700 this false like i'm not defending her i don't like her but to say that she's antichrist like look
01:28:47.760 she's she can do whatever she wants i don't see her actually building out the surveillance state
01:28:53.260 and trying to manufacture heaven and actually doing anti-christian things while claiming to be
01:28:57.740 christian uh like peter teal and his cohort uh so i think that it's super weird for him did he have
01:29:03.940 like a an idea like you know what the because i was fascinated by it but like i said i never watched
01:29:09.220 it what was who who was the antichrist and what is it what are his thoughts on the nature of the
01:29:12.940 antichrist so i didn't i would have imagined he was going to say it was going to come by way of
01:29:16.660 artificial intelligence that i'm working on yeah he he actually thinks that people who criticize
01:29:22.220 the progress of ai are part of the antichrist or legionnaires of the antichrist i so i didn't
01:29:27.880 watch the uh that speech the four day four part speech you have to like buy tickets and go there
01:29:33.440 but um yeah i've seen him talk about it quite a bit and what i my interpretation is he he first of all
01:29:40.980 he doesn't really like america um and he believes in monopolizing your company so you want to control
01:29:46.860 everything because he's he's an authoritarian you know and he buys into in my opinion i think he buys
01:29:51.960 into accelerationism to get you to a point so he can usher in that authoritarian government which
01:29:57.240 is scary since he's one of trump's biggest backers since 2015 and they all look up to someone like
01:30:02.000 curtis yarvin who i'm not a fan of and curtis yarvin is very much and you know he wrote under
01:30:06.080 mentions mold bug and he wrote about how we can usher in you know um this authoritarian world by uh
01:30:12.300 collapsing uh the country the the society and so it's a thing that's something a lot of like
01:30:17.980 accelerationists look up to you see that yak like movement and stuff and i'm not into accelerationism
01:30:22.880 at all whether it's people you know like the red heifer situation is a form of accelerationism uh
01:30:28.480 there's a seven mountain mandate for other christians that's super false theology that's
01:30:32.440 another form of accelerationism there's right and left accelerationism and it seems that like teal
01:30:37.980 and those people vance vivek uh that all those tech vampires are into that and uh so like
01:30:44.220 wanting to wanting to monopolize your company is something that all those tech guys really want
01:30:49.520 which is you know i think perverse and against freedom and uh it's just crazy that now we have
01:30:57.780 a president who's completely embraced that you know he's he's completely abandoned farmers the middle
01:31:03.360 class uh and just overall americans to usher in these people through project stargate and other forms
01:31:11.080 of these like giant billion dollar shrines to ai and they're like well this is a future if you don't
01:31:16.580 like it you're out and that's you know and then teal would say if you don't like it you're actually a
01:31:20.420 legionnaire of the antichrist i you know i don't know this is kind of part of what we were talking
01:31:29.780 about top and i maybe two weeks ago we talked to ed mabry after the first wave of epstein files was
01:31:37.100 released and he wanted to give his thoughts on it in particular how to prepare people spiritually
01:31:43.000 because it's there is a demoralization angle right it's this is a heavy thing spiritually speaking and
01:31:51.560 and it's difficult to navigate you know i i find it kind of easy because i think there's um i don't
01:31:58.740 want to say a numbing but an acclimation that takes place if you're familiar with these things for
01:32:02.700 all this time and to be perfectly honest what we're finding out right now is that the world has
01:32:09.820 been in this state you know since the old testament if you're if you're reading the bible and you're
01:32:16.760 learning about people worshiping false gods and false idols you know being warned not to sacrifice
01:32:22.860 not to give their their children uh unto the fires of molek um cannibalism you know taking
01:32:31.620 people slavery you know into slavery it's it's all been happened it's all it's just the world so so
01:32:38.640 what we're finding out right now is that the world has been as it's always been and that's not really a
01:32:43.000 shock to me but one of the things that he said was this idea of like normalization which is something
01:32:49.120 that i just hadn't really seriously considered and afterwards you know through that lens we started
01:32:56.160 to notice like oh this this could be a real thing and and top i think you said it um this idea that
01:33:05.040 people are going to see this and then like maybe they're going to emulate it and i think that when
01:33:10.160 you start to tell people hey much can be achieved through the ritual sacrifice and torture of in
01:33:19.700 particular children and science has very seriously considered what can be gained by way of disassociative
01:33:30.240 states you know induced by this trauma so it's not just this ritual ceremony spiritual angle it's also
01:33:37.000 like the nuts and bolts scientific community has learned that there are things that are beyond
01:33:43.660 the reach of modern day science god forbid it is framed as though um the progress of science has been
01:33:55.100 stifled over the last however many decades because the last frontier is this this is the thing the
01:34:03.220 threshold that stands in the way is look what can be achieved with the proper sacrifice and the proper
01:34:09.720 amount of trauma and i forgot what it was that i initially saw oh uh we played a video the other
01:34:18.120 day on neft to america it was aubrey marcus of on it um the the supplement company talking with a guy i
01:34:24.720 don't know what his name is who basically is just saying like he's telling aubrey that the the sacrifice
01:34:31.600 of children and all these things the trauma you know even the the rape and murder of individuals is
01:34:39.420 permitted he's like we have to acknowledge like the good parts of it yeah the good parts of it and
01:34:43.660 aubrey is pushing back against it and um but he's saying that your your rejection of this is only due to
01:34:51.200 your moral framework and everybody else has their own moral framework some are some people are different
01:34:56.020 very much the argument that we ran into with albarino it's it these people with morals or uh
01:35:01.920 you know strict spiritual withholdings he says that they stand in the way they stand in the way and i
01:35:07.500 don't disagree i don't disagree we do stand in the way yeah bravely because this is something that is
01:35:13.120 it's it's not okay there's not there's not um you know wisdom and intellect by absolutely any cost
01:35:19.300 is not um uh a moral or dogma that i live by and so um in this video with obby marcus the guy
01:35:25.900 basically says like no one on this earth will stand between me and and research and that's that's
01:35:32.920 very fascinating so chinese scientist who went to jail for doing some experiments with babies when he got
01:35:39.100 out i think this is someone recently last year maybe he said you know ethics is really standing in
01:35:43.740 the way of the experiments i wanted to stand in the way of progress is fascinating right now
01:35:48.860 that and that is human nature and you're right since since the fall of man this is what's been
01:35:53.360 going on so this is i want to play this this is new to me i haven't seen it this is um it's a two
01:35:58.440 minute clip so we're probably gonna end up pausing it and discussing a little bit but i do want to get
01:36:02.080 through it because it seems like an important one to get the full context for it and we're not going
01:36:05.840 to watch you know the full episode but at least a full clip um so the quotes here this is chent
01:36:11.820 yuger who by the way very very comically said uh i'm starting this is recently like like a week ago
01:36:18.160 he goes i'm starting to doubt the official narrative on 9 11 and to which i quote tweeted him and said
01:36:24.540 shut the fuck up because it's just so it's just so stupid to be in 2026 and have this dude you know
01:36:32.140 with all his influence and and everything say such a profound you know i'm starting to think that maybe
01:36:36.940 9 11 wasn't quite what it seemed like oh my god so chent yuger having a discussion with sam harris
01:36:43.560 and the quotes that we see here is uh i imagine these are coming from sam harris quote why can't we
01:36:49.420 eat babies another quote yeah what's wrong with eating babies and a third quote if we have extra
01:36:55.500 babies around actually it's very funny and no one wants them why can't we eat them so um i want to
01:37:03.000 let this rip and we'll pause it and we'll you know we'll pick it apart about your beliefs right so
01:37:07.360 you know why can't we eat babies what's wrong with eating babies if we've got extra babies around that
01:37:11.160 nobody wants why can't we eat them right um i get i i i'm really worried about that line of thinking
01:37:18.300 i think that's wrong and i'm i think it's a little dangerous it sounds almost a little that's you're not
01:37:24.680 a man you're just you're just not imagining those circumstances no no no no so let me let me clarify
01:37:29.240 this is important right so it has such terrible consequences both in terms of what we are doing
01:37:35.160 to our captors and what we are doing to our own morality and the message we're sending to the rest
01:37:39.320 of the world about whether we're good guys or bad guys that i wouldn't do it i might not do it even
01:37:44.280 if i thought that it was absolutely going to work when i don't think it is it's very unlikely once
01:37:50.120 you start once you no it's not that's why you've got to avoid those beginnings to avoid those endings
01:37:54.760 they never started little and you remained little it only starts a little bit and then
01:37:58.920 they're drawing and quartering you're ignoring half of my argument which is i'm arguing in most
01:38:03.960 cases it's not psychopathology that this is a damn that seems like an incredible this is very this
01:38:10.120 is eerily familiar this is just like the discussion aubry marcus had with that guy this is um you know
01:38:18.200 this is the danger of intellectualism that's void of spirituality this is the danger of of like this
01:38:25.640 idea of of gnostic knowledge yes and the search of it like which is i think is a path that all of us
01:38:32.520 might have been on at some point or another like you pick up some occult books and you start reading
01:38:36.360 yeah and you go oh damn looks like that works and then there is that temptation like if that does work
01:38:42.440 what if i just well this is this is you know chronos burden with the knowledge that one of his
01:38:48.280 children will will kill him or overthrow him so he starts just eating all of his children to try to
01:38:53.400 avoid it and and what that what the the gift of knowledge does to him is it turns him into a
01:38:58.680 fucking monster isn't this the same guy who said he didn't care if uh hunter biden killed a kid or
01:39:03.480 something and he'd still vote for biden like he he is a godless obviously godless man and uh you know
01:39:09.720 i've seen him talk about like he doesn't think free will exist he thinks we're just totally
01:39:14.360 deterministic and that there's no obviously he doesn't believe in a god so he like extends this
01:39:21.800 odd man-made redemption to the worst of the people in society like even um pedophiles by saying they were
01:39:32.600 determined to do so so how can we punish them and a lot of people who believe in determinism they believe
01:39:38.520 that like maybe we shouldn't uh like remove them from society we have some other way of dealing
01:39:44.280 with these people because they couldn't help it this is just how they were you know predetermined to
01:39:48.280 act certain ways um you know i i don't believe in the death penalty but i do believe we should
01:39:52.760 be removing people from society uh in some way in some prison or something who harm kids uh yeah we had
01:40:00.760 that that's like a very dangerous path of thinking with him like i've never really heard anything from him
01:40:05.320 it's been a while since i've heard anything from sam harris that uh registers is anything moral
01:40:10.520 well there was a time when he was like this you know intellectual kind of authority intellectual
01:40:16.120 dark web him dave rubin jordan peterson my have fallen uh rogan's still up there i guess but he's
01:40:22.440 not i wouldn't consider him intellectual he was just always the facilitator of these guys no but he was
01:40:26.600 like supposed to be part of that whole thing what's the other guy just paying the dinner bill
01:40:29.800 yeah yeah those guys but in your when when you when you interviewed when you were with
01:40:36.760 what's his name alex rosen and you were doing that i remember when one of the pieces that you wrote
01:40:40.840 you were talking about what you saw in that guy's eyes when when he got caught and he was trapped
01:40:45.800 could you describe that i feel like we've covered it before but that's just it's a fascinating thing
01:40:50.360 yeah there's like a so we call like a bunch of different guys and there's a moment with each of them
01:40:55.400 where once they realize they've been actually trapped and there's no way of talking themselves
01:40:59.880 out of they all try to like charm out charm their way out of the situation uh as we're confronting
01:41:04.760 them with this material that they've been sending to what they believe to be little girls 11 12 year
01:41:09.800 old girls where like the eyes like like it's almost like uh whatever facade was in their eyes disappears
01:41:16.840 and now you're looking into like this just void and you're looking at the demon that's when i started
01:41:21.560 to use the word demon you know i was like that was one of those words i was just like
01:41:25.000 like evil or good didn't really resonate with me until i became a christian and realized like it is
01:41:30.280 just that simple it's good and evil right and then i'm like looking at this guy in this field
01:41:34.600 and i'm like that's a demon you know he tried to say uh he tried to just squirm his way out of the
01:41:41.000 situation i was hurt as a child i did this either that then he he crapped himself right in front of us
01:41:46.520 and in this field these people there's children playing in the yard across the street and um you know
01:41:52.680 alex is so good at getting these guys to talk and this is my i think that was my first one you know
01:41:58.200 we kind of like had to track this guy down and follow him it's crazy but yeah there's a moment
01:42:02.440 for all these guys that i saw that weekend where they're like the scales fall away and then you're
01:42:07.640 just staring at someone who realizes they've been trapped and it's like i it reminded me of like
01:42:13.000 finding an animal uh that had been caught in a trap and it's it's beyond the point of them struggling
01:42:19.800 or even trying to like eat their leg off it's the point of like i've given up there's nothing i can
01:42:24.520 do now i i guess i'll just lay here and uh and wait and see what happens and uh it was man that was
01:42:31.240 a crazy thing to see because it was all types of people too you know it was like some of them were
01:42:34.920 the cliche just disgusting warts with like legs these you know obese man you'd be like that's a just your
01:42:42.600 typical pedophile demon and then there were guys who were like we get they had like we the people
01:42:47.640 tattoos and american flags in the yard and maga bumper stickers and uh fire of arms instructors
01:42:53.720 firefighters and they also are into this and it was just made me also at that time think of like
01:43:00.760 you know people have this idea in their head of like only like the right would be like it's only
01:43:05.000 creepy people on the left who are these types of people and then the left would be like well it's
01:43:09.640 you know these people on the right it's it's everybody this thing this evil thing is it's not partisan
01:43:16.120 it exists for some reason in all people uh not all people but in various people across all platforms
01:43:23.080 across all types of um institutions whether it's these guys who work at 7-eleven or politicians
01:43:29.400 presidents and you know you name it um but yeah i'll dude i'll never forget the way those their eyes just
01:43:35.400 changed like a black cloud came over them and we got to see the actual them uh when they realized like
01:43:41.880 there was no getting out of it that's that's a fascinating disposition right i i wonder what
01:43:49.880 that you know we're listening to chent and and sam harris talk and it's like i can't help but wonder
01:43:57.880 if that's what the internal dialogue of an individual sounds like you know before they're willing to
01:44:04.360 um engage in something that like a domino effect leads to horrifying shit like what you're describing
01:44:10.520 i think that i've experienced people like this and i i don't want to i guess i'll cut sam harris some
01:44:17.320 slack maybe he hasn't eaten babies or partaken in this sort of thing but there is this mentality and
01:44:22.120 specifically in the libertarian party of people to uh dig into these things and continue to put aside
01:44:30.200 morals and boundaries in order to get to what's underneath it's like the apple right they want they
01:44:35.400 want to bite that apple so badly that they're like and i understand the logic behind it because
01:44:39.800 if you do want to get to these inner workings of things you do have to discard your morality and you
01:44:44.040 have to discard polite society to get crally right exactly it's exactly like that it's every iterance of
01:44:48.920 black magic that we've ever seen from the top of the government to your lowest which they consent to
01:44:54.840 putting these things aside and i could again i can understand the logical formation of doing that if
01:45:00.520 your goal is to get to these things but we're we're not called to do those things it's it's fairly clear
01:45:07.560 where that gets you and and these people have not learned and they will never learn they're going to
01:45:12.280 do this that's my thing is like if we get to there there's um right now the bar to entry is besides like
01:45:20.840 some sort of lowly pedophile right there's certainly a a tier to pedophilia you could be uh an island
01:45:29.080 owner and a facilitator of of this sort of a thing or you could just be some schmuck who works at
01:45:35.640 all these and and gets caught you know uh thinking that you're talking to a 12 year old and it's actually
01:45:42.120 like a six foot five bald red bearded linebacker um but uh i think that what happens is for those
01:45:54.760 people who are susceptible to that sort of idea that are willing to do that sort of thing but they
01:46:01.160 don't have the connections and the money and the intellect to cross that threshold into the upper
01:46:06.760 echelons of uh you know pedophilic behavior when they are made aware that by the way that thing
01:46:15.880 it's like the key to unlocking the psychic phenomenon it's the key to um conducting ritual
01:46:25.160 that allows you to sort of manipulate the fabric of this reality and bend it to your will it's the key
01:46:32.120 to uh communing with entities that can bring you multitudes of success be it financial um you know
01:46:41.720 relationship or influence you name it right because i mean that's what we're talking about
01:46:46.360 at the end of the day we're looking at like let's say these hollywood elites or these music industry
01:46:49.880 people and and what they're dealing with is entities they're sacrificing to entities which by the way
01:46:55.720 on on the side of norm normalizing these things uh azalea banks um the dude scrilla or whatever who did
01:47:04.200 the six seven meme they just came out openly and they're like yeah yeah we do say you know we do
01:47:09.720 santeria we sacrifice animals goats and chickens azalea banks just made a video on on her tick tock
01:47:16.680 i think where she's like it's here's my chicken sacrificing closet you know this dude's with
01:47:21.960 like the piss closet and everything this is a closet that's coated yeah in chicken blood and she's like
01:47:27.800 i gotta clean it i haven't cleaned it in three years are you are you like uh presuming that the
01:47:31.880 epstein files are the road because yeah a lot of these people are i'm saying there's baby fuckers out
01:47:37.080 there they're gonna go huh i've been doing this yeah it's like giving somebody a dollar and they're
01:47:40.920 going to the store and buying a scratch off with it rather than be like no you could actually use
01:47:44.600 this dollar to do something else yes they've been given a road map of that's creepy i think that's
01:47:49.960 what's gonna happen i think and then you have these guys sam harris he's not afraid to say it the guy who
01:47:54.200 sits across from aubrey marcus who's not afraid to cross that threshold uh azalea banks is not afraid to
01:47:59.800 say hey i've been sacrificing chickens uh the scrilla guy who goes hyper viral for the six seven
01:48:04.840 thing is telling people i do this i pray to these gods i put spells and curses on people i do it to
01:48:11.080 chickens i do it to goats what's the next logical step well this dude is is rich he's rich and he's
01:48:17.480 well and he's and he's powerful when he's and he's got all this stuff what is it goat is it the size
01:48:23.640 that gets you the big payout is it goat more valuable than a chicken what's more valuable than a
01:48:28.680 goat and that goes back to the old testament right isn't it was it leviticus where they're
01:48:32.520 sending the goat into the wilderness for azazel or however you say the name yeah so this is ancient
01:48:38.360 ancient stuff and i get what you're saying like there's people gonna be like oh wow i could i could
01:48:42.680 take it up a notch and do this but i i am on the flip side seeing how this is the there's no there's
01:48:50.920 less of a taboo now for people to talk about like this pedophile network and now parents are like
01:48:56.280 you know someone like michael tracy's like there's a moral panic happening and then people are worried
01:49:01.240 about pedophiles everyone like dude there are pedophiles everywhere i like so go back to the
01:49:05.640 alex rosen story we were just in two counties in ohio for like three days and there were multiple
01:49:11.720 men we could have just kept going and going and going we could not slept and just kept catching
01:49:15.480 people he had stacks of paper of men wanting to do these things to children that was just in two
01:49:21.480 counties in ohio this dude travels the country you know it's not just this country it's everywhere
01:49:25.720 so they there is there is a reason to have a moral panic and i'm glad we're having a moral panic now
01:49:31.320 because i think the satanic panic was real i think the satanic panic was actually a psyop to discredit
01:49:35.720 people from saying there was actually a satanic problem uh because there was so i think you're
01:49:39.640 right about that yeah we have michael aquino who's in the military you know you guys have seen this
01:49:44.120 guy with the freaking um eyebrows you know he accused of pedophilia at um the presidio military
01:49:49.960 child care who is openly temple of set founder and also with anton lave before that we know satanists
01:49:56.680 run this uh we're in satan's territory uh and it's unfortunate but this disclosure in terms of emails
01:50:04.840 and the epstein files is waking i don't say everyone up but it's waking a lot of people up to being like
01:50:09.560 there is you know uh a problem here and there are after our kids and why do we have hundreds of
01:50:16.520 thousands of kids that go missing over the southern border you know why are they trying to clone
01:50:20.760 people why are they actually talking about purchasing babies what are they doing is it just for trafficking
01:50:26.440 are they also experimenting it's probably both and uh i think this is a conversation we should be having
01:50:31.640 and it's very telling that our president is saying it's time to move on and i think he's only doing
01:50:36.200 that because it's all his buddies who are partaking in this and maybe even him you know i'm not no one's
01:50:41.640 spared that's why i want i'm really like i'm going to run for president i'm telling you right here and
01:50:46.040 i'm going to my only platform is i'm going to have nuremberg trials at the iowa state fair for uh
01:50:51.480 america's 250th birthday and everyone involved in warp speed and in this pedophilia ring and the epstein
01:50:57.000 files look you might be innocent but we got to question you you know next to the um the dunk booth and if
01:51:02.680 if it's a it's a big no for you look i don't want to kill you i'm not part of i don't believe in uh
01:51:08.200 uh the uh state killing people but we have built an amazing prison um maybe we can use alligator
01:51:15.000 alcatraz perhaps and actual alcatraz and we'll send you there forever and um that's just how it
01:51:20.360 is is we have to clean up the streets because you people are sick yeah dude i i mean that's a great
01:51:25.160 plan uh a good one for after the fallout i mean that takes place you know and by the way this this
01:51:29.960 whole alien disclosure i just want to say is we're kind of bringing it to an end here um i do think
01:51:34.760 there's a huge a huge maybe an overwhelming portion of the alien phenomenon that is actually
01:51:42.440 i had a discussion a little bit with somebody on twitter today and i was like yeah i agree with
01:51:45.800 this because they were saying this it's something we've been talking about this um these mk ultra
01:51:50.200 programs you know if if the mk ultra program is responsible for kidnapping i think it was like 10 000
01:51:56.280 orphans um and we have all this uh operation midnight climax you're abducting johns from from
01:52:03.800 brothels and you're dosing them and it's always been taking people against their will i think that
01:52:09.720 a lot of what people are experiencing is a front i'm not saying that there's not you know a real
01:52:15.720 phenomenon taking place and maybe there are real entities and things like that but this thing is really
01:52:20.840 messy and i think a lot of is it is a front for uh taking these people against their will subjecting
01:52:27.880 them to mk ultra like experimentation um i think that through the trauma and the disassociation people
01:52:37.560 are are forgetting a lot of what they're actually experiencing and that's why a lot of a lot of these
01:52:42.600 people will say i remember through regressive hypnosis or otherwise which is you know a kind of a shaky
01:52:49.640 procedure to undergo but still they'll recall military personnel they'll recall human beings involved
01:52:55.640 in these things i think that these deep underground military bases maybe they are uh leveraging
01:53:02.520 technology they're taking people and they're bringing them subterranean i think that's why
01:53:07.160 much of the uap phenomenon seems to be coming from the oceans instead of what people previously thought
01:53:11.720 you know outer space um and they're being brought to these facilities and they're being experimented on
01:53:16.120 and they're being traumatized and and i think that the the scale of these operations that people say
01:53:22.680 shut down in the 70s mk ultra are the complete opposite they're so much bigger you know even
01:53:30.120 candace owens she was talking about um charlie kirk and and and she was saying something i forgot what
01:53:35.240 it was that made me feel like whoa wait did you go through these did charlie kirk go through these
01:53:39.000 programs as a kid did you go through these programs as a kid and i'm not saying that as a condemnation to
01:53:43.240 to uh to candace owens i'm saying like people are victimized by this thing to a scale that i think
01:53:51.000 if we were ever actually exposed to if we if we knew the numbers we'd be we'd be floored i think
01:53:56.920 candace she's she's one that we haven't even talked about on the show here like with shame but it's like
01:54:01.640 another one i'm very skeptical of because like anybody that high up that i and i even if i knew
01:54:06.280 personally i still be like what exactly you know we knew a couple people personally and then we watched
01:54:09.720 some crazy things happen to him yeah but it's like man she's been saying a lot of things where
01:54:15.080 under you know some further scrutinization i'm like that turns out to be true yeah it's interesting
01:54:20.360 the reaction of her peers or the people that were her peers how they react to some of the things that
01:54:26.760 she's saying that we might be you know we might agree with or at least we'd be ready ready to hear
01:54:34.920 it either they're not ready to hear it or they know and she's breaking a rule and i
01:54:39.480 i just don't know where where to put her man yeah it's interesting i mean she's blown up i mean
01:54:44.840 she's been big but like the the charlie stuff has just been massive and i totally support her
01:54:49.960 questioning uh but we should be skeptical everyone and something something kanye said once to me that
01:54:54.440 i always think about when it comes to this conversation was that he said um if they can
01:54:58.840 see you they've been like how do you say it if they can see you being told what to say and i think
01:55:04.840 by that he meant like you know if you're put in like a huge position he was really thinking of
01:55:08.840 ben shapiro at the time that's where he was referencing but like you know it's it's like
01:55:13.560 these people are installed i'm not saying that's candace but i'm just saying it's a possibility
01:55:17.320 if people have been that big you like i think you raven mentioned like uh laurel canyon if you know
01:55:22.200 about laurel canyon you know how the cia can hijack countercultures or podcasts today clearly um you
01:55:29.720 know because that's how they try to steer narratives they can try to cyclically steer you personally and
01:55:34.040 also on a massive scale you know so it's like what is is she fulfilling something for them is she
01:55:39.640 rogue i don't know but like i would defend her the same way i defended alex jones because i think
01:55:45.880 they're trying to sandy hook candace now right with charlie and then that might lead somewhere else and
01:55:51.000 maybe that's how they destroy her just take out her voice and then make people go crazy because she's
01:55:54.600 got such a huge fan base now that if they censored her i think people will wig out and she's got a huge
01:56:00.920 like there's a lot of really angry moms and i'm with them you know like we should be angry um that
01:56:05.640 like was will be a little different than what it was when they got rid of alex was alex was big but
01:56:12.120 it was like you were easily written off when he was censored up everyone for defending oh yeah uh now
01:56:16.200 it's we're in a little different uh time than it's like this is sandy hook on steroids uh so yeah i don't
01:56:22.120 know it's weird because she's saying a lot of things i'm like how is she just getting away with this
01:56:25.480 my theory was because tim asked me the same thing on irl once and i was like this is just like this
01:56:30.920 was me spitballing but i still think about it from time to time it's what if the social media the
01:56:36.280 tech platform guys are propping her up to make her big even though i think she has a huge audience
01:56:41.400 organically what if they want to make her big so that they can pull the plug at some point and then
01:56:45.880 really drive people crazy um you know and that and alex jones was the test run for that years ago
01:56:51.880 uh and didn't you know work so much with alex he's back now and alex is like you know and i've
01:56:56.680 been with alex i like alex but he's on a he's like a different person you know like i don't agree with
01:57:01.080 what he's saying now he's going after candace i'm like how are you we're talking about transhumanists
01:57:05.240 and globalists that's your thing and they're in charge now but you know yeah something strange too
01:57:11.160 about about candace and it's like i enjoy i really do enjoy what she's doing um she for no reason at all
01:57:18.120 she's like charlie kirk might be a time traveler charlie kirk might have been astral projecting
01:57:21.960 love it he might have been in the mk ultra program create i love it i'm like i'm following i'm like
01:57:27.000 all right she's she's looking at something she's looking at some cool stuff and then she goes we're
01:57:31.080 going to take a quick break from charlie kirk and we're going to talk about nimrod and we're going
01:57:34.280 to start referencing rob skeeba's work and i was like holy shit okay i'm listening dude we're talking
01:57:38.360 about the nephilim why i know why why why right now and at the same time which is crazy so follow me guys
01:57:46.200 this is a convoluted timeline let's go the whole blurry creatures thing happened they follow me
01:57:50.520 timothy alberino attacks us for no reason we get a debate oh shit timothy he's debating us he has a
01:57:57.160 narrative to protect okay he embarrasses himself he loses or whatever however you want to view that um
01:58:04.280 right before he did like started with us and and the whole blurry guy started looking at this to
01:58:09.560 protect this narrative he actually records an interview with michael knowles right about the
01:58:14.120 nephilim i mean obviously this is what he talks about but it's oh it's it's takes a while to air
01:58:18.360 too right yeah well that that's the part that really makes me like be confused or start to doubt what i
01:58:25.080 would say what's going on let's incorporate the idea that he knew when it would be released he knew when
01:58:29.240 it would be released and asked like i guess he's doing some pr with us he wanted to bury us so that way
01:58:35.240 he could look good and then spin this and it didn't it just didn't work out for him that way right
01:58:39.800 because they're doing age of disclosure he's buddies with elizondo it seems like the time is
01:58:43.720 coming he knows his thing's gonna release it's pr time he records this interview january 7th it's
01:58:48.360 released last week it's released on the same day the same week that uh candace is now doing her nimrod
01:58:54.600 deep dive deep dive and a week before so it decides to do i don't know what the fuck's going on anymore
01:58:59.960 but we have a daily wire employee that is doing this and bringing this back into the zeitgeist right
01:59:06.040 around the same time here right before you know disclosure aliens all the stuff that we're talking
01:59:09.480 about yeah and candace is also touching on it like just a couple of days before but like it's
01:59:14.360 pre-recorded and then i'm just like i'm watching and i'm very confused about why this is happening now
01:59:20.840 well hold on i want to say because this before we pass the ball to shane i just want to say the
01:59:24.840 way that i think information agents work these days is that it's no longer done there are a few of them
01:59:32.760 who are like paid and bought but mostly it's the idea itself if you can lay out a compelling enough
01:59:41.880 idea and then allow people to come to it naturally over time the loud influential ones are going to
01:59:49.480 rise to the top and i think what you do from there is you control the gate the gates the algorithm you
01:59:57.080 pump it or you suppress it and you suppress it until it's ready to be pumped and so with candace it's
02:00:04.440 like she she might not have any not a nefarious bone in her body not the timing is like why
02:00:11.800 why did you do i think they got really good at controlling the flow of information they control
02:00:17.640 really well when information that's compelling that's packaged the right way you got a content
02:00:23.880 creator that made a great clip when it reaches you so the daily wire stuff which is is premeditated
02:00:29.800 it's pre-recorded and released on a certain date makes it as a matter of fact it was released late
02:00:34.280 it was supposed to be released like a week or two before that something happened i don't know and it's
02:00:37.880 just like what the fuck dude well they're clearly gatekeepers i mean they're like some of the worst
02:00:42.760 people i've met i mean i'm knolls i i i liked knolls when i met him and it was pleasant enough but uh
02:00:48.680 like germany boring and ben shapiro are two of the worst people i've ever met and uh you know they
02:00:53.320 blacklisted me immediately from the kanye story um but i've been to their studios because i've just
02:00:58.840 you know trespassed behind tim when he was invited um and they're just they're just horrible people
02:01:04.280 and gatekeepers and uh they don't like they have very thin skin and they're hollywood rejects but they
02:01:10.200 want to control the narrative and they definitely didn't like that uh you know i had a different take
02:01:14.440 on kanye when shapiro was saying kanye should be like institutionalized um so when it comes to this
02:01:21.000 stuff like why is this all happening now one of the things i've been thinking about is like and we
02:01:27.240 talked about a little bit earlier the dissident christian is like the last real obstacle in the
02:01:33.400 people who want to take over and make a dominant narrative with the sit with their simulation over
02:01:38.440 reality and so we see like you know teal and bongino vance and vivek heavily fund rumble which
02:01:47.720 became like the dissident version for youtube and i like rumble you know i use it um but i'm always
02:01:54.280 like why you know and my my thing was like i think they they know they have to find a way to ingratiate
02:02:01.880 themselves into the dissident and christian community that really said no to the major things like
02:02:08.600 lockdowns um like a lot of things that they they build in silicon valley and if they can get them on
02:02:14.520 their side which is why someone like the cloud guy or or teal saying they're both christian which
02:02:19.000 i think is fake although i don't know their hearts but i'm pretty sure they're fake um it's their way
02:02:24.040 of ingratiating themselves into this community so then we can be like oh yeah give them carte blanche
02:02:29.640 they can just do whatever because they're on our side which you got to be really careful with that
02:02:33.560 you know because i think they have bad theology and they have bad intentions and they're anti-christian
02:02:37.320 so i've been seeing that happen so much you know after covid happened after lockdowns happened when
02:02:43.960 everyone kind of banded together and said we got to defeat this narrative now it's like um now they're
02:02:49.560 trying to do something new and you saw a lot of this start to fall apart when like october 7th happened
02:02:53.720 and now all of a sudden the people who are anti-establishment were super pro-establishment
02:02:57.560 and like even like a good example of that would be someone like will chamberlain who we've interacted with on
02:03:01.720 uh oh yeah free brohemian grove who you know he pretends to be like he's like i don't say he
02:03:07.960 pretends to be dissident but he's like yeah i'm i'm against this and that and i'm i'm right wing
02:03:13.560 but at the end of the day you're just an establishment shill and you're a gatekeeper and you know we're not
02:03:19.320 allowed to say certain things but it's okay for him to joke about killing someone like literally the
02:03:23.320 day after we were joking about him being gay whatever it is he was mad at us for saying you know and then
02:03:28.040 i invited him to prohibit me in grove he didn't take me up on that offer so i think a lot of people
02:03:33.160 uh are gatekeepers so like the right and the independent media space is just as infected with
02:03:39.880 gatekeepers and liars as the corporate media space that i used to write for i thought i would
02:03:44.200 be a part of that i was like i'm gonna write for the atlantic and that and clearly you know didn't last
02:03:49.480 very long because it's they're terrible people uh not all of them but i'd say 99 and then i get into
02:03:55.880 independent media space and there's freedom and i get to do a lot of great stories but i start to
02:04:01.480 notice like you know i remember being told by one publication in like 2024 we'd love to have you
02:04:07.080 write for us but like you just can't criticize trump and at that point i was like i'm probably going to
02:04:11.320 vote for him uh but i really don't like vance and i have a lot of things to say about ai and they're
02:04:16.680 like yeah we just we can't allow that i'm like man so you're just as bad you're just as propagandists
02:04:22.600 as much a propagandist as as the left so it's a human nature issue and now they're forming this
02:04:29.720 narrative of like the things we've been talking about where they're like mainstreaming conspiracy
02:04:34.040 which has been happening for the past two years i think where you know butler happening was a massive
02:04:40.520 like we're gonna like take away the taboo from everything you thought about jfk we're gonna make
02:04:46.120 you watch it now and then we're gonna burn the guy's body you know we won't even mk ultra we won't
02:04:50.680 even assassinate him then and mk ultra the next guy who kills him uh but we're just going to make
02:04:55.400 you question everything and then charlie kirk and it's like they've been slowly um making it
02:05:01.000 everyone a conspiracy theorist and i think that is on purpose which is why i think we should be
02:05:04.520 skeptical of why they're mainstreaming all these things we've been talking about is it real you
02:05:08.440 know nick hinton he's someone i follow on twitter i don't know anything about him but he says things
02:05:12.760 that i think are interesting and just the other day he tweeted that like his favorite theory is that uh
02:05:18.040 ai is now in charge of the epstein files release and that it's actually putting out all these
02:05:23.080 things and basically blackmailing the elite because it's going to take over the government
02:05:27.480 i'm like you know what honestly at this point anything's possible that the thing that the tech
02:05:31.560 elite created who want to be in charge are now actually becoming the thing the slave to the thing
02:05:36.680 that they created which is what jacques l yule wrote all about in the technological society which is a
02:05:41.640 great book um it inspired one of my favorite writers uh you might know him as the unabomber
02:05:47.320 ted kaczynski his manifesto was heavily influenced by uh jacques l yule who was a christian anarchist
02:05:53.720 from france i know he's french but give him a break uh it seems that he was correct about a lot of
02:05:58.440 things yeah he was correct about a lot of things um so yeah i think i think that's what's going on you
02:06:04.440 know they try to seed ideas into these places that have major platforms like the daily wire or fox or
02:06:12.520 nbc whatever or or your church you know like there's a whole campaign now with israel and different
02:06:18.040 churches to be like you know pro israel stuff and like they're changing the whole concept of you know
02:06:22.840 what israel like means and the state of israel and uh that's dangerous theology too so it's it's a
02:06:28.520 constant war on on reality and your perception of it and i think the last people on the front lines
02:06:35.880 of actual reality objective reality those who actually believe in christ who have faith in god and
02:06:41.880 believe in a natural organic world that um can exist outside of the simulation that they've been
02:06:47.800 putting on top of us and uh so they have to get on your side which is why people like teal the cloud
02:06:54.120 guy you know peter palmer lucky they do things to uh make you want to like them whether it's putting
02:07:00.280 on a mullet or you know going on rogan or saying something based saying some dude saying based like
02:07:06.920 such a dumb word or um or or saying starting to talk about the nephilim in ways that are like all
02:07:13.960 right i dig that i do believe in this but why are you saying this now and then i just can't help but
02:07:20.200 think about how trump phrases his disclosure tweet about well because the overwhelming response like
02:07:25.560 so is this just a joke or like how what is true here how much of this is accurate why are we going
02:07:31.720 to believe you like i don't believe anything you tell me bo but if you tell me about aliens i'm all
02:07:35.960 of a sudden right on board with everything you say because it's what i want to hear because they know
02:07:40.440 that they can control you through fear and confirmation bias it reminds me of when they uh voted uh
02:07:47.240 governor phil murphy i think his name is uh in new jersey and it was because he was just an advocate
02:07:54.520 for legalized marijuana oh it's just the one thing it's just like that one thing that like you know
02:07:59.000 hello fellow pot smokers like it's like that kind of shit but hit the blurry boys with that meme too
02:08:03.800 yeah yeah i saw that that was great but i want to bring it in for landing but i just want to like
02:08:07.560 put a little like pin drop on that end there it's something that we talked about before and it's how we
02:08:12.600 opened up this podcast um you're talking to gary the numbers guy like i don't know what i'm going
02:08:18.440 to say to this guy i don't really know anything about him coming in flying blind i got my notepad
02:08:22.440 i'll do a little preparation but i don't know and it's the the guidance of the holy spirit which is
02:08:28.680 something yeah dude the church that we go to is like very big on the holy spirit the emphasis of
02:08:34.200 the holy spirit because that's what jesus left us here and that's really in today's day and age
02:08:38.200 that's all that we have like i can't trust anything that i see or hear it's insane and
02:08:43.720 actually it's the it's the impotence that that's the correct word that made alberino block me finally
02:08:50.440 after the exchanges because we were getting real disrespectful with him but like i said something
02:08:55.800 like uh to someone commenting i said uh this is a rational man he's not going to understand these
02:09:01.560 things that we're talking about we're talking about like the spiritual nature of things and he goes
02:09:05.080 how should i act irrational perhaps being flipping with me and i go you should ask to be guided by
02:09:10.920 the holy spirit rather than leaning on your own understanding that's it and after that he found
02:09:15.640 some reason to fucking pull the parachute and get out of there but that's it you made him squirm well
02:09:21.000 yeah we're gonna because we're gonna see a lot of shit and you're gonna hear a lot of fancy
02:09:23.960 language you're gonna see a lot of newspapers and even videos and pictures you might see some stuff
02:09:28.440 in real life i don't even know if this stuff is real anymore well that's what shane is talking about
02:09:33.160 and and dude i'm so glad this is the way we're gonna end it because this is really the message
02:09:36.760 that i want people to i wonder if you'd agree with this shane we've been doing this for a long time
02:09:40.920 we the three of us here might be uh you could call us career conspiracy theorists and for the first time
02:09:46.840 in my life i'm recognizing that the floodgates is open in such a way that top is right the only thing
02:09:53.800 we're going to have is discernment that's gifted to us through the holy spirit leaning on our own
02:10:00.600 understanding is going to lead to catastrophe i mean catastrophe there's no other way to put it
02:10:07.880 um we're going to be inundated with so much information that's going to flesh out that overlay
02:10:15.240 that you're talking about this this false reality that they've laid over god's reality and i think at some
02:10:21.640 point maybe historically you could wrestle with it and you can grapple with it you could reveal the
02:10:27.800 truth but it's going to get so big that you're going to have no other choice but to stop grappling
02:10:35.560 with it and lean entirely on the lord yep that's i mean there's like a meme out there about like i
02:10:41.320 went down every rabbit hole and they all just wind up at jesus you know because it's it's the only anchor
02:10:46.360 in this chaotic reality is christ you know and it's for something it's it's as ancient as it is
02:10:54.280 uh it's the it's the only it's it's a modern blueprint through all of the human suffering we
02:11:00.200 go through in this crazy place um you know every answer is in there so something a friend told me
02:11:05.480 about it and we were talking about the bible once he was like his dad told him like every answer you
02:11:08.760 ever need is in the bible and you know maybe you've read it already and then you have an experience you
02:11:13.640 go back you read the same thing again you're like man that is exactly what i needed to hear is exactly
02:11:17.800 right because it all goes back to human nature it understands human nature it understands that we're
02:11:21.800 all flawed and sinners and uh you know this is the blueprint to eternal life and that is the thing we
02:11:26.600 should be focusing on and trying to help people save souls you know and and glorify god um but also
02:11:33.320 like how to try to defeat evil as best we can and then lay this foundation of um you know godliness in
02:11:39.240 our children because they're going to inherit their own version of the depraved world that
02:11:43.880 we inherited right but it'll just be a little different because it keeps tweaking itself every
02:11:46.840 now and every like generation so prepare them with that but if you prepare them with that with the
02:11:51.240 foundation of the lord's word you know they're way way better off than kidding that's why that's why
02:11:56.200 the people in charge don't want you to have that foundation because they know uh it's harder to
02:12:02.360 manipulate you into their psychotic realm uh and buying everything and it's harder to shackle
02:12:08.360 you to the material world if you're not um worried about the treasures in the material world you're
02:12:13.480 worried about the treasures in you know the afterlife in the eternal world in heaven amen
02:12:17.640 pilgrims and strangers yeah a smart man once said yeah well we should be in this world but uh
02:12:23.480 shane we've we've kept you for way too long um can you tell the people again uh where they can find
02:12:30.440 you by more your work and just follow you in general man yeah well thank you for having me this is a
02:12:35.400 pleasure i hope to get down there and have some coffee in that shop and hang out yeah coffee's on
02:12:40.120 us we'll do that i'm looking forward to it and uh you can find me online everywhere like instagram
02:12:45.400 twitter at shane cashman uh my books are at shane cashman.com and uh the show is inverted world live
02:12:51.960 uh that's on youtube and rumble uh from monday through thursday at 10 o'clock at night excellent
02:12:57.800 guys go follow him go follow shane what the hell are you doing and until next time
02:13:02.680 don't forget to obey submit and comply we'll see you later
02:13:15.960 the end is written in the book in the pages they foreseen
02:13:32.280 so
02:13:35.720 and the
02:13:45.880 yes