Inverted World w⧸ Shane Cashman
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2 hours and 13 minutes
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206.23926
Summary
Top Lobster's Shane Cashman joins the show for the first time in almost a decade! Shane talks about his time at Brohemian grove, how he got his start in comedy, and how he became one of the funniest people on the planet.
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welcome black ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad i am david lee
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corvo aka the raven that is top lobster switch the camera the father of disinformation we need
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a higher search we need a small asian person to sit in the corner of the room and press the
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grove and discount codes off of merchandise from top lobster.com show a shirt let's show a shirt
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what shirt we got oh you know what i'll show the one i'm wearing today oh we haven't seen this one
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in a while yeah retardio retardio return to god people it's a good time to do that i mean it's
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always a good time to return to god but maybe right now it's uh it's an imperative guys joining us
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today actually for the first time we've hung out and talked to him since basically brohemian grove i
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had the pleasure of having a phone call with him not long ago but this is the first official one
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welcoming back to the show shane cashman shane thank you for coming before we get into all of this
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let's talk about where people can find your work and support you things of that nature yes sir well
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thanks for having me guys you can find me online on twitter and instagram at shane cashman the show
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is inverted world live on youtube and rumble monday through thursday at 10 p.m and uh you can buy my
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books at shane cashman.com very nice um you know i i we haven't had the pleasure of of talking
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it's a great photo she's a killer he's a killer online man we uh yeah actually by the way that's
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worth mentioning you know when you were at brohemian grove uh you tried your hand at stand-up was the
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first time right first like official time yeah tripoli actually had me he asked me that day to
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open up for him uh and it was awesome it was awesome dude it was great you're a you were a natural
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a killer what you were doing was you were basically taking your tweets which are bangers and you were
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saying well maybe i should i think tripoli actually recommended this to you you should be reading
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these tweets and so i remember just watching you go through your phone and just read these tweets you
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know the way that you type them out is very much the way that you speak so the translation was perfect
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and um i know since then you've you've done it a few more times right didn't you like open for
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tripoli in jersey or something yeah tripoli had me open up on uh new year's eve it was an awesome show
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at uh at the dojo which is a great club i've done a few performances there before and uh i do that
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place rules and to be with tripoli someone i've i've listened to tripoli for like more than a
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decade you know so it's crazy to be hanging with him uh i really respect him and and it was awesome
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so it's brohemian grove like the first official time and crazy because it was tripoli one night and
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then owen the next night such a great great weekend i can't thank you guys enough for having me be
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involved in that and then and then like my first like get like gig at a comedy show was with a
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tripoli again at the dojo and that was a great way to start the year you know what's even cooler um a
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little lore for that whole situation so you know when you came to uh mc for brohemian grove oh this
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is yeah this is a great this is so cool man we so we put you up in a hotel that's not far from here
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well no it's actually quite far yeah probably like two miles yeah yeah yeah and um and while you were
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there you told us that you you took to walking around and uh and kind of scoping out the villages
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because it is a it's a sight to behold it's a bizarre kind of place here the villages it's disney
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world for retirees and you ended up at a coffee shop on more than one occasion during your stay
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and you use that coffee shop to uh you know it was kind of the home base for you writing your jokes
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and um and that coffee shop turned out to be the standard coffee shop so before this is cool for
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the audience before we ever set up uh nds studios in here before we had even met matt heppner uh you
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were here writing your jokes for for our event uh it's just a a really kind of serendipitous
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there we go we made i love i love that coffee shop i would drive to florida for that coffee shop
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like the coffee is so good and i just remember getting up early thank you guys for that hotel
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room it was awesome but it was such a strange scene that the villages i've heard about them
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for a long time you know i've been i spent a lot of time in florida growing up but never in that part
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of florida and uh i just was like i'm gonna take a long walk and write while walking and then i come
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upon this coffee shop that happens to be christian i'm like that is amazing so i walk in love it love
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the coffee uh saw the library in the back took a seat at the big table by the entrance and then
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wrote out all the jokes on the paper i would use that night at rohemian grove and did the same thing
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uh for the next day and uh man that place rules it's so bizarre that you guys now are in there doing
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a show uh it's you know i think god likes to make his stories cool you know that i think that's what
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happened there because we didn't even know that for a while until i ended up uh talking to you
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about the other studio and you said oh my god that's the place that you know i went and i said
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what are the odds of that and i'm just in this place where the odds are probably like close to
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zero like i said close to zero this shop is behind a dunkin donuts and also kill business behind like
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a foxtail coffee which i'm probably going to get sued for mentioning them oh yeah i'm not allowed to
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don't do that unbelievable dude cease and desist incoming um so yeah i mean definitely a serendipitous
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moment there and it just uh it makes it that much cooler you know the way that these things all
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panned out we haven't talked to you since you know basically brohemian grove we had a phone call
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because i had to reach out to you um a lot has changed since then right we were some wild boys
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oh yeah cashman bore witness to um some some obscene things some obscenities yeah that was a
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that was a wild time and i do apologize for that shade i i would like to know what all right
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realistically what did you think about what happened there was it uh i know it was it was fun it was
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cool yeah the whole thing was cool but we didn't get to check in with very many of the performers at
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all about like are you still having are you guys okay mentally like what did you think about that
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because that was um that was maybe we achieved something there we we made something pretty big
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um in my opinion at least and um it was it was pretty crazy i don't know what what did you think
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what was your takeaway afterwards yeah i i had a great time i mean there was there was a few more
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shirtless men there than i would have liked uh my apologies and and that what's your homie's name
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who like he lost a lot of weight he looked like he was gonna die the next day
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alex um was it alex he was in uh he was in um oh color gang cole cole like he he was telling me
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like dude my body's like not functioning right i'm like are you gonna be okay like should you go on
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stage uh i was actually genuinely worried for his health uh i think he was gonna make it he's like
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turning green in front of me uh but he was like doing that competition but um dude i laughed the whole
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time i'm the the craziest memory uh is sitting on stage with you guys and jake owen and tripoli so
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first of all just the owen and tripoli connection happening was rad so cool but we're on stage
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finding out that trump bombed iran right and so like i don't know someone whispers in my ear i think
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it was david it was me like it was like it was bush on 9 11 like reading the books for the kids
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and then i tell i don't know who i told next to me and they're like i think we got to talk about this
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and uh it was such a crazy and then and then we had the trump impersonator who happened to be in the
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crowd who came on stage and then read trump's tweet about bombing iran we were dying it was so dude
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hilarious i remember driving home i drove i started my drive back home to west virginia
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after that second night i was gonna stay with my parents in uh in where are they north carolina or
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south i forget which carolina they're in but i was gonna stop halfway i was laughing the whole way home
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just like hell what a hilarious time um everyone made me laugh you know toad singing heil hitler with
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owen classic um it was just the audience was great there were so many people there that i've listened
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to before or done shows with like paranoid american um who i have a lot of respect for uh really enjoyed
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having him on my show and uh yeah just the vibe was great you know we had all those issues with
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the club beforehand but it really worked out in the end where we got wound up in a really cool place
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was the guy was the host's name alex or something his name was alex yeah he looked like me in 10 years
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i saw alex i saw him the other day in the parking lot actually he's uh he's doing good that's cool
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i want to have this parking lot this parking lot right outside here you know hey lobster
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we're gearing up to do it again i don't know exactly when right now we're kind of aiming at june
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way different if i could just get this lady to respond about the venue we're having
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go figure problems securing a venue um but yeah i mean we'd love to have you back and this time it's
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going to be something a little bit different it's um i i don't know i i i want this one to
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last one was a big middle finger to the cancellation and all these other things this one i want it to be
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what we're all good at you know what we all do i mean obviously we have comedy and we have conspiracy
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and we have you know we're we're grounded in in christ and i want that to to come through more
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which is kind of a a bold pivot given the last one but it's the the true nature of the show and
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and um and i'm thinking also that it doesn't have to be we went for like this grand slam and we had
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all these heavy hitters and and uh now i'm thinking it's it should be much more of the friends of nds
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you know and and what people come to the show to watch and and what they've grown accustomed to because
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it was almost two separate things almost you know what i mean if you were a fan of the show and then
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you came and saw that it was like is uh mk ultra trauma kind of um uh experiment but i we're gonna
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do something a little bit different and i think this one is going to be i i want the people in this
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community and their ideas and their their outlook on life and the direction that everything is going
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in and we're going to get into that i want those ideas to shine i want those people's opinions and
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research to to shine so yeah it's like a it's almost like play time is over yeah that was our last
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bit of uh unhinged fun yeah if you could call it that and and that there's still a place for that
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but i feel like that time is quickly moving on especially with like yesterday trump is like hey
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let's talk about aliens and i'm like all right we're we're here we're here now all the all the
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stuff we've been practicing for and we've been talking about all the psyops are coming full circle
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yeah and you know shane's been one of the people that have been really talking about this stuff
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for like longer than we have i almost i almost don't want to get into that quite yet because
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there is like a progression and it's very similar the way that we kind of became convicted um because
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i i don't think you play with god no you you just don't if i'm gonna stand here and i'm gonna tell
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you that jesus is the way the truth and the life um then there had better be some fruits that come
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from that and i think that the audience and and just in my own life i know this i've seen it um
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there's been a conviction and i'm still a lot of the same person that i was i don't think you get rid
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of it but uh i've i've become a little bit truer in my aim and i and i watched you oh yeah go through
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this huge moment dude and i know you've probably talked about this on a lot of shows it's just been
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a while since we got to catch up and i can't touch on it but this viral moment takes place in your
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life you're on tim cast uh irl you're up there with gary the numbers guy which the audience can
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attest to is it's probably one of my favorite human beings um and that is uh i couldn't be more
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sarcastic i have a a deep disdain that i have to mitigate because it's not right to have that kind
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of resentment for a person we're still praying for i have literally done that and i've prayed to god
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that this moron can realize you know the error of his ways and be a voice for the kingdom of god
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you know i i think everybody know there's nobody that's beyond redemption yeah this can happen to
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anybody so yeah as much as i have uh something that is reminiscent of disdain for him i actually
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have prayed for the dude to to come you know come to christ you're on this panel and you do something
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that is um i don't really have another word it's it's profound it's profound because it's unorthodox
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you're on a platform that doesn't typically showcase this sort of thing that you've done here
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the entire episode shane you only responded in scripture
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and then you saw yourself out after some times i i want to talk about this what does it look like
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when do you get the call to even go on the show with this guy when do you figure like walk me through
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the timeline of yes going through shane cashman's head that day um so i found out two days prior
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that was a monday i guess i found out saturday the previous saturday morning on through tmz
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and through twitter that there was this uh alleged shooting on the property where we all record
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so i was like that's weird uh but you know it's kind of a part of it like the whole thing
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people swatting tim that's been happening for years now so it's kind of just used to
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what you know whatever is going on whoever did it if it happened uh you're like ah it's just a
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weather pattern at work uh people don't like tim that's fine and uh we've had bomb sniffing dog
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come through the old studio bomb sniffing robots so i'm like oh that's gonna be interesting thing to
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talk about monday and uh because there's this whole now it's like this trending story everyone's
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talking like tmz is talking about all these people fox and all whatever and uh you know
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it happened what they say happened happened at like where i would have been recording at the hour i
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would have been there but i don't record friday nights and um that happened like the friday after
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like the night after like milo yunopoulos was there and i was just like with milo and brought milo into
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the studio and all that stuff the day before so there's this like weird shift now because people are
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like whoa we're like tim and them are saying they're gonna leave uh forever uh which he said
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he said that publicly and so i show up on monday the idea that he was gonna leave like the whole
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yeah like the whole area operation pick up move elsewhere he said before you know and i we've got
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roots here now i really like you here i love my church um our kids have friends here our kids have
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like kind of uh moved around quite a bit the past six years different two different houses just because
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of work and so i'm here i'm like well they're moving they're moving and that's that's fine i'll
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do what i can do from home or just do something else and um show up monday i always do tim's show on
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mondays and uh i had no idea who was on at all uh but showing up there's already like a weird vibe
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at the studio for whatever went on the weekend and uh they're like all right go upstairs you know
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there's like managers like uh producers downstairs like i head up i go take my typical seat i have all
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these other things plan to talk about because pretty much every time i've been on those past
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few months has been like them talking about what they don't agree with on candace owens it's become
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like a reaction show to candace sometimes but like i'm the only one who's defending her i like candace
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you know candace and i had a pretty big disagreement over the eliza blue story she made a whole video
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about it and then she sent me this crazy message this is like five six years ago five years ago
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and then we had a wonderful phone call uh it was so nice she was so cool we heard each other out we
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didn't change each other's minds but like i was like i respect that because if you'll remember no
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one was happy with me except for a few of you uh but like i still feel the same way about that story
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and she might but i don't know it's funny because now she says a lot of things that i did say in that
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story like gang stalking and pr stuff that's weird but anyway i was like i'll never forget that i don't
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have to agree with everything she says but like i know she's not whatever everyone's saying she is
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because i've talked to her she was a human being she really didn't hear me out and in the media space
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which is so godless it is very rare you know like i can see you guys people i actually talk to who
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are real human beings there's a handful of other people out there um because more or less in the
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media space there are no friends everyone people will stand on your corpse to get to the next spot
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uh to it's that ladder of success in the media space is built by corpses of people that you people
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say we're your friends so go up to work go sit down i'm prepared to talk about candace whatever
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else is in the news that day and this thing that happened at work um i have no idea who gary is
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at all until i see his name now on the list and i see he's got the number 33 in his name i'm already
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like oh geez uh what is this guy and so i'm preparing i typically have my notes i'm writing my
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notes down and uh he then gary says there's no christians here right in a way i'm like uh okay
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like he wasn't saying like like my christian brothers he was like in a very mocking tone
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i just let it go in one ear and like out the other and like whatever i can now i kind of see like this
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is slob with all these rings on and he's got a leather jacket and i think he's wearing like a raven's
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hat and very very far and few in between that you you meet somebody who is like openly adversarial
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against christians and this isn't taking place on the internet so it's a unique situation and so
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but no one heard that my that wasn't live like he didn't say that part live so no one heard that but
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like then we go live and so we know we go around everyone says like their introduction whatever
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and uh i typically have my thing i'm going to promote my show that will be all later that night
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which i do live and right before it comes to me i'm like whatever i just like a download from god
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was just like just read scripture tonight and so the first one i started with was one um that my
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mother-in-law had sent me just a few days prior which i really love and so i opened with that one
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and uh and then i was just like i kept saying like in my i have this conversation in my head
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i'm only gonna have this conversation i'm only gonna speak scripture if i even talk and i usually
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talk a lot you know like i'm on irl quite a bit um and i love that show i have a lot of fun on that
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show and uh despite you know people will laugh at me for saying things that have been coming true
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lately but um yeah every time it came around to me you know they start freaking out about candace of
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course and instead of me like i had these things i was gonna say um but it's like i'm just i was
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just gonna repeat myself like i've said these things a million times there's no reason to say
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it again uh it was just like okay i need to speak scripture i need to hear it this numbers guy needs
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to hear it because he's saying really bad stuff like idolatrous stuff um but i don't like and at the
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same time tim was really really angry at candace and using language i was just like i thought it was
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beneath him you know and he's apologized for that uh uh like a week later or so so i remember at one
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point like i hadn't talked for maybe 30 minutes which is rare and tim's like what does shane think
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about this i'm like well i don't have to just go to scripture i'm just reading scripture reading
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scripture reading scripture and then then gary starts mocking it i forget what he's saying but
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he's like oh your god is not coming back it's been 2 000 years i'm just yeah really like
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that's like very condescending it's not just condescending that kind of specificity you know
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when it comes to like your god's not coming back that's like demonic that's like that's not somebody
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that's going like oh i don't know if as i'm as i'm hearing this now like i only saw your clips and
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maybe a couple of other clips with you and gary kind of going back and forth i didn't realize that um
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tim had that the animosity and like the that language toward uh candace in the same clip
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but now that i'm thinking about it maybe i'm crazy you're i would i would love to have been in
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that room and to have have been looking at it through the eyes of like balaam after his eyes
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were revealed you know after the donkey speaks to him and he goes hey hold on a second there's
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actually an angel here like if you shout out to timothy alvarino if i would if you'd be able to see
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into the spiritual realm i wonder what you'd see in that room because you have shane who is now
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like it's almost like like something has put its hand on your shoulder and it's like here read
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like just speak my word and on the yeah from what i heard from this dude it's blatant antichrist rhetoric
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which is in america into today in america at this time period at the very least or you know a couple
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months ago it's almost it's not unheard of but it's very still very brash to go at christ like that
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to go at christians in general so it's like there is a spirit in this room i wonder if that like
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had anything to do with the things that were like the anger that's like that was able to manifest in
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tim like because i don't i don't think tim is really acknowledging this realm or the activity
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that it could play on a person but like there's something going on in this room tim will say he
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believes in god but he's he is not a christian and he doesn't believe in like the resurrection
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but gary was actively getting angrier the more i read from scripture all i did was read scripture and
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he got angrier and angrier i had never read scripture in a room full of people who don't
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take it seriously uh serge serge i guess does i i forget what he's christian uh but he's got some
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denomination he goes by i forget what it is and phil was like a catholic when he was a kid and you
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know phil did uh text me during the episode being like how demonic is this and i was like yeah
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extreme which is like you know that's a guy that um that i've had my my odds with uh phil labonte
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but i was i was pleased to hear because that's like i don't really care about beef between me
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and another individual as soon as you start to like see what i see or or you know start to
00:24:03.900
i mean identifying that as demonic is like that's awesome glad to hear it i totally saw it and then
00:24:10.100
he said i he said i think shane is wearing the armor of god yeah when people get like a little
00:24:15.040
weirded out that i wasn't saying anything else so i was like you know it's like telling phil like
00:24:19.620
thank you through text and uh you know he didn't have to do it but that was dope of him and uh and
00:24:25.200
then i we kind of sparred i sparred with gary only through scripture uh because he kept talking about
00:24:32.480
what i was saying about god not coming back and all this stuff and mocking jesus and then i always
00:24:37.120
leave early so some people were like he just peaced out but i always leave irl like 20 minutes
00:24:42.980
before the end of the show on mondays because i go get ready to do my show at 10 o'clock so some
00:24:48.260
people were like he just left and i'm like well i always leave it did look like i just peaced out but
00:24:52.940
i was just reading scripture and then got up and left but it's typically what i always do um
00:24:57.220
and uh that was it never you know i never really had a reaction like that from the uh from the internet
00:25:02.680
that was one of the most viral things that i've experienced um well that's what i want to ask you
00:25:07.780
scripture i so how is it received i mean what does it look like going forward you do a bit of a i mean
00:25:16.140
i know you said you had to get out of there early because you got this thing to do but it's a bit of
00:25:18.920
a mic drop right i mean you read scripture only and then you get up and you go do what you got to do
00:25:24.760
um it's a it's a challenging thing to resist the urge to put your own two cents into the situation
00:25:31.340
um especially when you're sitting next to a guy like that i know there's a lot of um you know
00:25:37.260
sort of instinct to defend yourself or defend your ideas and instead you just stick to scripture when
00:25:43.900
that's all said and done you know what's the reaction like from your peers right your co-workers
00:25:49.840
but then the internet at large i mean what is that all because you know i'm biased i look at it and i go
00:25:55.660
that crushes we're showing the clips here at the shop and matt um you know the host of straight bible
00:26:02.620
he's like this guy is awesome like this guy wrote jokes in your shop he's like he to him that's um
00:26:07.700
a feather in his cap to be associated even even you know peripherally uh with you and what you did
00:26:14.940
there you know he sees this and i agree as a huge moment for the word of god as in the platform is huge
00:26:21.000
i imagine the the i don't want to call it fallout because it's it's got to be mixed right what was
00:26:26.880
that like yeah i didn't really hear from anybody after that i think everyone from work that is i you
00:26:32.320
know they were i think so engrossed with whatever was going on and then they you know for those who
00:26:37.100
watch irl they know like right after that i think it was that week they pretty much left for miami it
00:26:43.540
might have been another week or two but soon after that everyone left and i was one of a few people
00:26:48.380
left here in west virginia and uh so i heard from a few people at work and they're like stoked about
00:26:53.600
it um i don't think there's lots of christians there but i don't really there's been a lot of like
00:26:58.320
there's new people there i don't really know and i kind of just like don't go there as often as other
00:27:02.300
people do who work there like i got a family you know i got yeah errands to do and uh bible study
00:27:08.080
at night and stuff like that so you know there's a lot of people there who i they don't know me i don't
00:27:12.360
really know them and they're doing different things different shows but outside of that uh i had just
00:27:18.100
like a crazy response from people online i didn't i didn't expect it and like i just wanted people to
00:27:24.220
hear the scripture you know and uh that was amazing the response from people um i didn't have to say
00:27:30.460
anything i didn't want to offer any two cents because like the only thing that matters is the
00:27:33.620
word right here in the in the bible and that is the shield and my sword and i felt like i was
00:27:39.500
floating out of that room afterwards you know like it really it was a very dark night uh in that room
00:27:45.980
it did not feel good that guy gary was uh you know when i said i'd pray for him at the very end
00:27:52.620
he goes don't pray for me when you pray you become pray i'm like okay what is that i love that dumb
00:27:59.120
word play crap people get caught up in that they'll build entire uh theories just off of like word
00:28:04.820
play i mean i think there may be some and then you know word association that's fair to do he made a
00:28:08.980
video about how like he's gonna come after my kids and convert them i'm like dude that is so
00:28:13.940
demonic that's so evil um but and then oh real quick i mean this is another good insight to how
00:28:19.740
you know maybe some of my cool workers took that night uh when i left the room uh gary said something
00:28:27.700
about like something being ridiculous me being ridiculous i don't forget what it was and then
00:28:32.460
a lot said you don't sound to gary you don't sound half as ridiculous as he does talking about me i'm
00:28:38.320
like dang you know me a lot we can get along outside of the show but like if you've ever seen us on the
00:28:43.940
together we really don't agree on much at all yeah um he's you know he's into he's like a neocon
00:28:49.900
and he's very proudly will say that about himself i am not um and we'll disagree on whatever it is
00:28:55.500
israel epstein you name it um and you know it is what it is but i thought that was a pretty interesting
00:29:00.800
insight into him and how he saw that um so that's why i made sure to include it in my clip
00:29:06.380
i thought it was it made him look you know obviously i'm biased um i thought it made him
00:29:11.360
look retarded especially just given if you know who this guy is and look i i'm gonna say is that guy
00:29:17.540
uh uh does he follow judaism or is he just like a non-secular well i think he he's jewish i don't
00:29:25.180
know if he actually practices you know i think like a lot of modern jews in america especially
00:29:29.560
from new york they just say they're jewish i don't think there's any like you know i have friends
00:29:33.840
who are orthodox jewish and they don't agree with israel they don't like netanyahu and they
00:29:38.740
don't like people who just say they're jewish but don't practice right uh you know you look at the
00:29:42.840
haredi jews who actually think israel is a heresy to have a state of israel the government is heresy
00:29:48.600
before their messiah comes obviously we disagree on that with the messiah but um it's just interesting
00:29:53.200
to think about the levels of judaism and like you know orthodox jews really don't i don't say they
00:29:58.060
they don't like lesser jews who don't practice judaism but they obviously see as like a well
00:30:03.600
aren't you really jewish right if it's like being christian but like you don't read the bible you
00:30:08.400
don't believe in christ you don't believe in the resurrection like well what what is this this is
00:30:12.720
not right so i think that's what a lot is but he's very he gets very emotional about it if you question
00:30:17.040
it and um you know i just think it's ridiculous well did you did you read any scripture from the
00:30:23.080
old testament uh yeah well well i guess not technically old testament i did read psalms um but
00:30:29.880
like i guess if for the jews you know they don't have that in theirs but uh and obviously our old
00:30:36.460
testament we have it so i was reading from psalms i don't think maybe i read some proverbs um but i
00:30:43.240
love the psalms the psalms are just incredible like i was just reading psalm 73 it's so gangster
00:30:49.360
uh it's like more like you can have metal lyrics that hit hard but this is more metal than metal
00:30:54.660
bands you know like it's like every there's love there's love poems in here hardcore songs about
00:30:59.180
your enemies um you know just the fear of the lord it's so good but yeah i went mostly went through
00:31:04.220
uh i think it was mostly a lot of new testament stuff with some psalms in there but uh yeah i guess
00:31:09.400
i just sound ridiculous to those who don't take it seriously which is fine you know it showed me
00:31:14.180
how powerful i know how powerful the word is but when you say in a room full of people who don't
00:31:19.680
take it seriously who actually want to mock it you can feel the word actually like materialize in a
00:31:25.760
room and actually have a profound effect on people and they have like chemical reactions like like
00:31:32.540
legion right like yeah you know legion we are legion they know they can instantly tell this is christ
00:31:38.720
and um you know obviously maybe not just like that but the word had this crazy effect on gary in
00:31:46.340
particular that i had never experienced and he was squirming i mean i don't know serge caught every
00:31:52.080
he went back and forth pretty well for our interaction but i'm watching and this guy he
00:31:56.840
was sitting right next to me i'm at the end of the table i have tim to my right and gary to my left
00:32:00.300
right next to me and he is visit like physically like almost like um trying to get away from the word
00:32:08.020
squirming squirming yeah yeah exactly it was really bizarre this is a guy that got on my radar a long
00:32:15.000
time ago can i can i just say something about this it's like it's also a little bit of inside
00:32:19.120
baseball but uh with the whole breakup you were part of the whole uh breakup of tower guys a matter of
00:32:23.900
fact i blame shane mostly mostly yeah i would say that's accurate um but when sorry that was happening
00:32:30.140
uh tripoli did a show at uh at clint's studio which i had set up and uh then he shot over and he did
00:32:39.660
rohimi and grove and there were a couple other people at the studio that were doing the shows with them
00:32:44.340
and stuff and and one of them came back and they reported to us they were like because they they
00:32:48.200
don't know that they didn't know the details of why this all happened they're like why why is it
00:32:51.880
broken up why are they here 20 minutes from you guys and not coming yeah what's happening
00:32:57.020
why are they doing uh podcasts with your headlining comedian yeah that you paid to fly out here
00:33:03.240
but they're not coming yeah but they're not coming to the thing but one of the i was like i was
00:33:07.520
like yeah you know it's like all crazy stuff happened and and the guy mentioned to us he's like
00:33:11.060
yeah they just kept harping on this idea that like you guys have went uh christian that basically
00:33:19.040
were phonies yeah and we went we we went so hard into christianity and this is why this is like a
00:33:27.660
big reason for the breakup and i was like that was never it was crazy because that that was never
00:33:31.520
mentioned like the christianity for us has always been implied for me in my entire life it's been the
00:33:37.580
this underlining thing of who i am but obviously you see like you know we're doing comedy we're doing
00:33:44.000
we're talking politics we're talking about conspiracies like i'm multifaceted in that way
00:33:48.020
and it was never something that i led with although now i think things are changing now i'm like because
00:33:53.420
now i'm like okay why did that specifically why was that one of your major gripes with us and and
00:33:59.400
since since then i have spoken to uh some of the people who have you know broken up and like had
00:34:05.360
things to say about us and and we're amicable it's fine but it's still like a little pin that i put in
00:34:10.400
there and i'm like what happened like i never i never like overtly preach the gospel to you i never
00:34:16.480
shoved it down your throat that happened to me as a kid and i won't that's not my style of of uh
00:34:21.600
the great commission of reaching people i just live how i live and if you ask me i'll tell you about this
00:34:26.860
and i guess like how i'm behaving and how even though like we did a racist show yeah it's like our
00:34:33.260
behavior still well i i think the was offensive to you guys in this way and it was just baffling but
00:34:39.080
it is similar like you're in a room full of people who don't believe or take this seriously and you
00:34:44.520
can feel it and when you feel that you can either go oh i better shut up and cower from this or i can
00:34:52.640
be retarded retardio and say what i believe yeah because honestly you're gonna sit here and and say
00:34:58.380
what you believe you believe a whole bunch of bullshit i should i'm gonna do the same thing
00:35:02.500
i'm not worried about the material world right like i'm not worried about people's reactions
00:35:07.520
to that and i i knew i i want to glorify god i knew the audience needed to hear everyone in the room
00:35:13.680
needed to hear and i needed it and i have in the same way that i lost friends during covid lockdowns
00:35:20.680
for saying like the george floyd riots are stupid or i'm not getting vaccinated all those things
00:35:25.580
when i got baptized i lost friends in a in like in ways i didn't expect you know like people who
00:35:33.760
might say they're conservative or whatever um just off my rate just disappeared like and i and i'm not
00:35:40.640
the price i'm like you top like i'm not gonna go out of my way to like force the gospel on you i will
00:35:45.700
find ways to bring it up when i can but like i had the same experience growing up um and being i was
00:35:50.720
atheist for the majority of my life so i was really like averse to it but always like reading the bible
00:35:55.800
in a weird way but like i just noticed that people just seeing you accept christ and that knowing you
00:36:04.940
had this change inside of you that's enough for them to be like i need distance because now they see
00:36:10.400
you as they might see you as less than because they see you as like oh he needs god he needs christ
00:36:15.020
like yeah no we all do um all of us are sinners and i pray for you and you know but i know how i
00:36:22.100
was in the past being so stubborn and being averse to religion um and i know that anyone can be can
00:36:28.060
change that's why when i told gary i was praying for him i didn't just say like i didn't mean it
00:36:31.400
right i'm like because saul became paul right there's people who are really bad people who can be
00:36:36.660
redeemed that's the whole point and it's amazing and you know i've uh not been perfect i am not an
00:36:42.480
angel none of us are so i still try to extend that grace to people even when they've distanced
00:36:47.340
themselves from me pretty like uh you know very clearly what they're doing and right after the
00:36:53.920
the baptism uh with my wife and i did in a river here in west virginia which was pretty sick that's
00:36:59.000
awesome um i loved it but like even the baptism is like something i didn't have to do it you know
00:37:05.220
it was more of like an outward symbolism of i want to show my kids i've had a big change inside
00:37:10.580
right yeah now this is i want you to see how important this is to me right i don't need to
00:37:16.340
do it i guess but like uh i really wanted to do it to show my kids how important that was and uh it's
00:37:21.660
like a proclamation i mean you know there are a lot of things that we do outwardly and inwardly
00:37:28.020
and for for bad reasons you know what i mean you might uh be the type of guy that covers your
00:37:33.860
you know bedroom when you're younger in star wars um you know decor posters and action figures and
00:37:42.140
all these other things that's an outward proclamation that you're making kind of
00:37:45.920
flippantly we make a million outward proclamations bad ones throughout our life um yeah you don't have
00:37:51.300
to be baptized but i think it is when you make this proclamation it's it's the spirit realm whether or
00:37:57.080
not it exists um notices it takes note and and things start to move in a certain way i i got a
00:38:03.840
shout out to uh scott who's uh one of our big supporters is always in the chat and when we had
00:38:09.620
this falling out and tower gang fell apart and we were kind of left in this place of like confusion
00:38:14.840
like what just happened uh scott you know i'm i'm very much new in my walk and i wasn't raised in the
00:38:21.100
church so scripture is something that like everything is new to me and he sent second corinthians
00:38:26.900
6 14 uh and it says be not equally i'm sorry unequally yoked together with unbelievers for
00:38:34.620
what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness and what communion hath light with
00:38:40.600
darkness and that terminology yoked i had to look it up to be like what exactly does that mean
00:38:47.140
and it's a it's a relationship right and for us um there there was a business a real business
00:38:54.320
relationship if you look at where the show is now um there's so many moving parts it's it's become
00:39:01.240
such a big operation and we were really really close to uh and putting in even on paper you know
00:39:09.060
business arrangements and agreements and that was on the horizon we were just trying to get past
00:39:14.140
prohibition grove that was a real thing that was going to take place and god just pulled that off
00:39:20.100
the table and i think that if you're serious about orienting towards god you know you don't have
00:39:29.180
to be this outspoken guy who's like you know like what you did like reading scripture on this show and
00:39:35.480
everything it's like god gives you what you need when you need it as long as you're earnest in your
00:39:40.280
orientation towards him and he strengthens you when you need to be strengthened you know the in your
00:39:45.180
mind i think what i'm getting at is you have all these ideas about what this looks like uh you know
00:39:49.760
to to walk in this way and and to pursue a relationship with god and it's like i think it
00:39:56.200
really is like you know when when they say uh god gives you a spirit of of peace and of sound mind
00:40:01.720
like yeah if you lay these things on him and you don't worry about like well what am i going to do
00:40:08.020
when this happens or what am i going to do when that happens it's like when it happens if you're
00:40:11.080
earnest about your walk with god he's going to strengthen you and embolden you when the time
00:40:15.880
comes there's no reason to even think about those things it's like you didn't go in there premeditated
00:40:20.000
outside of the day before the night before that you were going to read scripture um he puts a thing
00:40:26.260
on your heart and then that thing happens or he removes a relationship from your life and you're
00:40:30.400
you're going to understand later on you know uh i i think it's just it's that's i think maybe what it
00:40:37.280
means to kind of give your life over it's like to give almost your agency over i'm just saying that
00:40:43.500
because there's so much that i think is misunderstood from the outside looking in about what it means
00:40:48.140
which is why i think we confuse a lot of people it's like that's not what a christian is you know
00:40:53.180
nephilim death squad isn't what a christian is um the things they say are the things they do
00:40:57.860
and it's like i don't i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what a christian is
00:41:01.740
and i think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the spirit of god does in a person's life
00:41:07.140
and what that looks like so that's a scripture that we were reading through on straight bible
00:41:10.700
the other day and uh it's luke i mean it's mentioned a couple of times but in the account
00:41:15.180
of luke uh luke 12 11 and 12 12 and when they bring you unto the synagogues and unto the magistrates
00:41:21.900
and powers take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer or what ye shall say for the holy
00:41:28.980
shall teach you in that same hour what ye ought to say yeah dude and that's mentioned like three times
00:41:33.680
and it's like i mean i'm sure that i've read this as a child but it's something it's not something
00:41:38.620
that i like i was actively knowing you know what i mean not like i referenced this and said oh i should
00:41:43.660
tattoo that on my arm so that i remember it but it is it's like a de facto knowledge like that if you do
00:41:48.960
rely on this thing yeah uh it'll tell you what to do yeah dude i've been going through the proverbs
00:41:54.600
you know i think they're they're brilliant and uh like look at what what is this uh proverbs one
00:42:01.120
seven the fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge fools despise wisdom and instruction
00:42:06.280
and like so much of today is like people pretending to think that people pretending or cosplaying as wise
00:42:12.620
right but it's godless wisdom right and it's people who are married to the material world and then you
00:42:17.780
can look at the people like from silicon valley these like lizard freaks of nature like zuckerberg peter
00:42:22.420
teal jd vance whatever and of a vague and they are trying to manufacture a false heaven on this earth
00:42:30.600
through what they think is wisdom but it's anti-christian it's anti-christ for sure and um
00:42:37.640
you know i don't buy into that at all um and so you know a great little just a little example of that
00:42:43.680
that's so out in the open i'm sure we all know it's it's almost silly to even mention at this point but
00:42:47.700
like the apple design with the with the bite yeah oh yeah i mean like they are very openly saying like
00:42:53.700
we are trying to recreate our own theology here so there's that type of bad wisdom out there
00:42:59.520
but there's also so many people we're talking about um saying like oh nephilim death squad that
00:43:05.020
doesn't look like christian or they can say that to me whatever there are so many people who might
00:43:09.600
be your cookie cutter looking christians who are deep down actually demonic right maybe it's bad
00:43:15.480
theology yeah maybe they're cheaters maybe they do horrible things they're violent and you know i pray
00:43:20.800
for everybody and that you can be redeemed but very dangerous to be out there promoting bad theology
00:43:25.720
you know within your church yes um it's it's just as bad if not worse than a lot of the leftists
00:43:32.400
uh who the right conservative right types always rail against uh who then themselves turn out to be
00:43:38.220
like i mean how many stories we have growing up of like conservative republican caught in a bathroom
00:43:41.900
at you know with a gay lover you know like okay like most you guys are just gay huh um well that's the
00:43:49.240
thing that i think there's like a a special there's a special punishment for those who like proclaim the
00:43:54.160
faith and and and cause people to fall away and if you're like a church in particular and you cause
00:44:00.080
people to fall away um now i think people can misinterpret things and fall away on their own
00:44:04.280
accord and you could have the best intentions and you know but if you're doing something and it's
00:44:07.900
fundamentally wrong and that's causing people to fall away that that to me is like that seems to be a
00:44:13.640
a unique sort of punishment i just want to toss this on here real quick too because shane mentioned uh
00:44:19.220
the idea of the apple computer and uh first apple computer the apple one went on sale july
00:44:26.280
1976 for six hundred and sixty six dollars and sixty six cents it's like they didn't even uh they
00:44:32.960
didn't hide a damn thing they love you know and they i guess they get off on it they still don't
00:44:37.340
they get off on doing in the open like people always like you know if i'm talking about kevin trails
00:44:41.460
or something or or like charlie kirk's assassination whatever that is all about you know it's like
00:44:46.220
why would they make it so obvious i'm like because they actually like you to feel schizophrenic
00:44:51.420
they want you to be mocked for questioning what they do so openly that's like evil doesn't hide
00:44:55.940
i mean some some does but yeah right exactly they fetishize this stuff they want you to see it
00:45:01.800
happening and be like that's how powerful we are you know we'll email about it all the time you know
00:45:06.620
well you can read about it i want to i want to get to this part of this let's get to that i just i just
00:45:12.320
want to say one more thing backtracking to what you said about like uh i think you said something
00:45:17.440
like as you change inside other people uh resent hiss at you they resent your change uh i i agree but i
00:45:26.540
think that like you might be looking at it a little maybe from like a slightly incorrect angle
00:45:31.440
there it's not that they're seeing the change in you it's that they're offended it's it's almost like
00:45:36.980
you're holding up a mirror to them yeah this is what i've noticed because this happened to me
00:45:41.080
like when i was when i fell away from the church and then you see somebody that is walking that like
00:45:46.520
like the right way and they come to you i go oh like i'm i'm offended by it i almost want to hate that
00:45:54.360
person but yeah upon further inspection i realized like no that was just me that was the reaction that
00:45:59.480
i'm having to what you're putting out and like you're not doing it on purpose like i'm not
00:46:04.060
i was still doing all the things that i was doing but like inside of me that change was happening and
00:46:09.560
that light was bright enough to really shine some light and now that other person has to look at you
00:46:13.960
and they have to be introspective of themselves and that's hurtful because a lot of times if i have to
00:46:18.880
be introspective of myself i have changes to do and i've got a lot of things that i have to kill
00:46:23.020
inside myself and nobody wants to do that it's painful it's embarrassing it's kind of like my parents
00:46:30.580
when they get a little upset for me and nance raising the kids in a way that wasn't like
00:46:35.520
how they raised us because it's like they're like uh well we did it and you're fine i'm like am i fine
00:46:40.220
like are my sisters okay but like they'll they'll be like well why would you worry about eating this
00:46:44.940
type of food or doing this or that and then they they see it whether they actually are conscious of
00:46:49.220
it or not they see it as like a slight of their parenting but like we just have new information
00:46:53.900
different information i'm not doing it because i didn't appreciate being raised by them and they did
00:46:58.720
things wrong like we all mess up we're all just learning as we go um but like it is that is a
00:47:03.800
good point it's people it's you're causing them to look inside themselves and uh they some people
00:47:09.580
react in a positive way and some people react in a negative way because some people don't want to
00:47:14.120
um realize or be conscious of the fact that they might be missing something yeah you've illuminated a
00:47:21.480
light in a dark room and i mean you see it politically all the time where it's like here's some new
00:47:26.220
information boomer here here's six million epstein files like take a look at it and now i'd rather i'd
00:47:33.060
rather read about nancy guthrie's kidnapping uh to be honest uh that seems to be more important than
00:47:38.340
the three million epstein files uh about luciferian cannibals and people manufacturing wars all the time
00:47:44.820
this is actually so our canary in the coal mine is the coffee shop and we're able to talk to the
00:47:49.760
the general population here and yeah somebody just asked us again about the the guthrie uh kidnapping
00:47:56.000
and i'm just like i couldn't care less oh yeah yeah yeah but i think uh matt brought that up the
00:48:00.400
other day and i was like did you did you see that savannah guthrie published a book like a year ago did
00:48:05.760
you see this no what is it about in that book after yes yes in that book in that book from a year ago
00:48:14.280
she talks about a family tradition of a family kidnapping come on man once a year swear to god
00:48:20.880
dude it's out there uh it's so bizarre it's all so fake it's so oh yeah well this is so i don't know
00:48:27.560
if you because i just went to the bathroom tradition is that what kidnap the family uh you know uncle
00:48:33.980
cousin sister um i don't know if you if you asked this while i was away but but i i you know as we're
00:48:39.940
getting into this now all these things these great revelations and you know whatever to make of them
00:48:44.560
it's it's a very messy situation but you know you're this guy who has this history on on tim cast
00:48:51.620
of saying what seems to be obtuse outrageous things and you have a great uh comedic you know like a sense
00:48:58.740
of humor so a lot of the way you present these things you know can be funny uh but a lot of truth
00:49:03.740
a tremendous amount of truth is in the things that you're joking about on this show and
00:49:07.760
and that comedy makes it palatable so nobody ever like kicks you out of the room but overwhelmingly
00:49:14.480
on this show it seems that most people disagree with your takes on the nature of reality i think
00:49:21.380
is a good way to put it the craziest thing to me is like when he'll when you go on about the fake
00:49:25.820
clouds and they're like shane's so crazy and then you guys go outside probably smoke a cigarette and
00:49:30.100
there's just like just under the fake clouds yeah well the best the best part was it was actually
00:49:36.140
showing up one monday night and then realizing that the cloud maker was on i had no idea i had
00:49:42.960
no idea and uh i'm like i've been waiting to talk to this guy forever he ghosted me like his his
00:49:48.980
publicist ghosted me i think because they looked up probably his name on my twitter feed and saw that
00:49:52.800
i've just been mocking him for two years and uh but he'd been making the rounds that's a good reason
00:49:58.260
to mock him in yeah he'd been making the rounds he did tim's show and everything i was telling
00:50:02.160
everybody i'm like dude this guy is a fraud and he's a peter teal test tube baby just like jv vance
00:50:06.540
and uh i was like uh i was very polite the whole episode you know except for the very beginning i just
00:50:12.380
said i you guys all make fun of me on this show talking about fake clouds well here's the face of big
00:50:16.920
cloud right here literally making fake clouds and that was it he later would say he had seen things i
00:50:24.540
said online um you know whatever i forget what those things were but they were they were not very
00:50:29.100
nice um but he's mutilating the sky and then we did get into it towards the end of the episode and
00:50:33.860
then we had a debate set up and he bounced he'd ghost me on the debate and everything but um yeah
00:50:39.240
they they like to laugh at me i think sometimes it if i'm not saying it funny i think i'm saying
00:50:45.480
things that sound so absurd that it's easier for people to laugh it off than to accept that it might
00:50:50.100
be a reality and so you know me and phil might like i want to say get into it because like
00:50:54.440
i like talking to phil and he's always asking like questions and he might not agree with the
00:50:58.080
answers but whatever but well one of the things we talk about quite a bit on the show would be like
00:51:05.900
well people don't care about epstein i'm like i think they do and i talk to real people in the
00:51:12.240
real world and they care more about that stuff than they do about the economy now he'll be like
00:51:17.140
well people would say it's the economy stupid and i think that used to be true and obviously people
00:51:21.980
want to afford gas they want to afford groceries but the change that's happened over the past
00:51:26.580
we'll say five or six years since covid really where a large portion of the people thanks to
00:51:30.900
the blessing of covid waking some of these people up to how much they lie to us about everything
00:51:35.420
people are now seeing major things unfold in reality and being like that's fake that's fake
00:51:39.680
that's fake they're lying to us they want to kill us they want to destroy us they want to poison us
00:51:43.060
and it's godless and i'll be like phil the reason the epstein files are important is because
00:51:48.460
all the things you're talking about being important the economy the laws are passing
00:51:53.600
whatever policies we want to debate about they're they're being like puppeteered by people behind
00:52:01.060
the scenes like an epstein so when trump is saying he's running on agenda 47 to obliterate the deep
00:52:07.440
state a part of that deep state is the invisible network that is global that includes a jeffrey epstein
00:52:13.660
who works for every country it seems like israel i mean maybe russia maybe iran who you name it he's
00:52:20.120
us obviously the cia he's got deep ties with cia and massad like he's and it's a lineage thing of
00:52:25.620
like robert maxwell did basically the same thing glane's father so i'm like i get what you're saying
00:52:30.960
but you got to understand it's so much more deeper than that you know because they are passing these
00:52:37.160
laws because maybe they were told to pass those laws and maybe they're told passing because they'll be
00:52:41.080
like if you don't we'll either kill you or we'll release that video we took of you or we'll just
00:52:45.540
make something up and they'll and no one cares because we also develop ai and whatever so i think
00:52:50.980
it's very very important that we talk about it and uh it is funny that after all these years of me
00:52:56.240
saying things like we live in a culture that is promoting human sacrifice whether it's young women
00:53:04.040
going or any age woman going to planned parenthood and killing their baby they promoted this idea that
00:53:09.300
that's a good thing or it's people who are in the upper echelons of society actually doing rituals
00:53:16.360
where they you know kill or harm and the innocent and children uh it's it's it seems to be that we'd
00:53:23.620
be getting insights into that uh cult of them you know in these files and i think it's massively
00:53:30.780
important and i've dedicated a lot of time on my show just reading through them you know for the past
00:53:35.120
three weeks you know and i some it's it's a lot for some people and i understand some people like
00:53:39.620
i just don't want to accept that reality again going back to like why people might laugh it off
00:53:43.400
because it's just easier um and i get that it's something i i've experienced before like writing
00:53:48.540
a story you know about catching pedophiles in ohio with alex rosen and there are people who hit me up
00:53:53.620
be like that's cool you did that but i i just can't read that it's too much and i'm like i get it but
00:53:59.280
you don't have to but you should be aware that this evil is out there and it's at every it's on
00:54:04.160
the fringes of society it's hidden on the fringes of society but it's also everywhere and other every
00:54:09.560
other institution in our society all the way up to the top and beyond that top like the rothschilds
00:54:15.540
and beyond that whatever is above them so yeah this is why nuts this is why it was always difficult
00:54:21.240
to engage with um not only politics but like on the show dangerous retards it's because we're having
00:54:26.580
a conversation about a thing uh it's like the symptoms and not the cause or the you know the
00:54:32.260
origins of the disease and surface level stuff this is why i would you know for a while it was
00:54:36.500
like a joke we made that that clip one time where it was me saying politics is theater like a hundred
00:54:42.600
times across a bunch of different shows because it is it's a theater that is the result of exactly
00:54:48.600
what what shane is describing i want to pull it back real quick to the the face of big cloud it's a
00:54:54.420
fascinating thing what you were subjected to there in that moment shane because what that is is like
00:54:58.100
first they they ridicule and they deny that's not a reality and you're an asshole for saying it's a
00:55:03.700
reality and then eventually um it comes around to admitting that it is a reality but certainly not to
00:55:10.980
the degree that you think it is and then it ends up being the face of big cloud making the rain you know
00:55:16.480
the the the rounds on big podcast you don't understand it's actually good this is the guy
00:55:21.360
this is actually good for you it's sure it does exist but you're wrong it's not bad um and he's a
00:55:26.980
liar and he's a straight up liar that dude is a liar he also says he's christian he he lied right to my
00:55:32.980
face i called him out a christian would never make clouds oh yeah it's not right like he's probably he's
00:55:37.340
he's a christian just like his uh little daddy peter teal is christian you know peter teal is a
00:55:42.120
married gay man who's purchased little boys and clavicular might even be his son for all i know but
00:55:46.220
like they're all fake and uh uh and they probably you know have to sell bags of blood to peter teal
00:55:52.280
so he can try to live longer but um you know he lied to me right there on the show he said we don't
00:55:58.740
uh we're not doing this we don't our data centers uh don't eat that much water and i'm not making rain
00:56:04.640
for the data centers i'm like you have literally said this you said this on sean ryan show like i've
00:56:08.960
i have studied you dude because i have been talking about fake clouds forever and then i
00:56:12.000
saw you actually are quote unquote the rain maker i'm like you i know what you're gonna say i know
00:56:18.540
everything about your little argument and it's totally fraudulent and uh everything he said was
00:56:23.960
like i didn't expect i don't think he expected that like pushback at all because he'd been making
00:56:27.940
the rounds and everyone loves him and he's got like a cool mullet so it's like he's got to be cool
00:56:32.240
um but he's just like the rest of the tech guys and they don't care about humanity he's lying when he
00:56:37.980
says he wants to save the farmers because they're actually all his friends are killing the farmland
00:56:42.100
they're buying the farmland they're plopping down data centers on the farmland and then he's going
00:56:46.340
to make fake rain for the data centers that eat up millions of gallons of water perhaps every day
00:56:50.520
like some of them do do so that guy's uh one day we'll have a debate it sounds a lot like alberino
00:56:57.540
like coming out expecting to be treated nicely everybody likes him because he wears a cool hat and
00:57:01.260
carries a whip and then all of a sudden he got i think this is anybody though anybody who is uh
00:57:05.140
dominant in their field the the person who has the acceptable and allowable opinion about what's
00:57:09.900
happening in their field of expertise when you have somebody that questions them from a justified
00:57:14.940
manner because you know that happens sometimes where people are kind of being goofy with the
00:57:17.780
but like or if you actually hold them too and you go no no i need you to explain exactly what you said
00:57:21.960
these people are like mostly inadequate yeah yeah they crumble it's been pathetic to see actually
00:57:27.040
like time and time again well this this um this idea that you've been sifting through these
00:57:32.000
epstein files um there is it's funny because you're the guy that was like kind of the fringe
00:57:39.160
novelty on the show and then of course you know it seems to be that your last uh major interaction
00:57:44.600
there was reading scripture to uh a numerologist and and now we're in this season where and i'm sure
00:57:52.160
i'm sure you're just you're just um you're covered in in you were rights at the moment you know
00:57:59.020
because we're in this season of vindication and i'm sure what that means shane is that everybody's
00:58:02.460
come to you and gone wow shane you were absolutely correct and that's that's sarcasm because i don't
00:58:06.660
think that shit happens it's weird they're looking at they're looking at shane as he walks through the
00:58:10.460
office and they're like that's the guy that i don't even know why there's like a cognitive dissonance
00:58:15.040
i don't think they have that thought because if i had that thought i'd be like dude you were right
00:58:19.360
let's talk about it that's just not happening the thought that they have is the same thing with
00:58:22.580
the rainmaker dude where they go shane that's clearly not happening you're a crazy person okay shane it might
00:58:27.680
be happening but not to that extent right and then you get this guy coming in they go okay it's
00:58:31.700
happening but it's good yeah yeah so is that what we're experiencing well we're definitely i want to
00:58:36.280
get into some of that because it definitely seems like we're crossing that rubicon oh yeah i'm just
00:58:42.640
making words up that's the right word i don't know if it's the right word but we're now crossing that
00:58:47.500
normalization place where there is this conversation that's being had what's the hyper intellectual
00:58:51.140
atheistic character that used to be really big and sam harris maybe banger you're great dude
00:58:56.760
yeah sam harris i saw a clip i didn't watch it i don't know if maybe we could find this um sam
00:59:02.660
harris saying like well why shouldn't we eat babies which is which is very funny i don't even know if
00:59:07.560
that's real i don't know if ai made it up i'm not saying i'm just saying i saw that clip going viral
00:59:11.480
i don't know if that's real but i want to get into your thoughts specifically shane as somebody who's
00:59:15.700
been sounding this alarm for a long time now we sit in this really weird place where the doj releases
00:59:19.940
but uh 6.5 million files or some shit like that uh you know communications on gmail receipts for
00:59:28.980
any exchanges of whatever purchases and such but then there are other things that are a lot more
00:59:35.600
egregious and a lot of it seems to back the narratives that people like you and i have thought
00:59:41.000
were a reality for a long time um but my conspiratorial nature shane i'm like hitting the
00:59:46.780
breaks and i'm going well why does the doj want us to see this now i think q anon is is a psyop
00:59:53.700
and and this feels strange to me is this is this real or did you find it already uh i sent it to you
01:00:00.840
you sent it to me okay that's very funny we'll we'll put that in the in the back pocket for now
01:00:04.940
what are you making of these files what's your what's your thought on like the temperature of
01:00:08.980
things right now i always warn people you know i've been saying this since the israel stuff started
01:00:15.080
popping off with like uh you know october 7th and everything i tell everyone quite often on twitter
01:00:20.080
to remain suspicious of anything that confirms your bias right and so that's for that's for everyone
01:00:25.600
on all sides and so there's a lot of confirmation bias spilling out of the epstein files indication
01:00:31.680
is a slippery slope right so i i believe there are these evil factions ruling the world um and they're
01:00:40.300
ancient clearly but i'm also like why like you're saying why are we able to see this now
01:00:45.400
i believe is maybe one theory is because they're ushering in something else to take over you know
01:00:51.220
some people's theories is that like the new epstein is palantir which makes sense because palantir is
01:00:55.340
very epstein-esque uh you know it's it's seeing everything it's like this omniscient uh false god but um
01:01:03.320
we are getting a lot of insights if you are to if we are to believe the emails and messages because
01:01:08.660
there's also a lot of like um claims that are uh in these files that are just from people saying
01:01:16.460
this happened to me and like i don't believe all women so you know you can't really believe
01:01:21.600
everything you're reading in the files but i'm also like i'll hold on to that i'll remember that
01:01:26.540
i don't there's no way to verify it but we've seen a lot of the emails that have been confirmed
01:01:30.620
by people whether they actually come out and say like elon musk i did email those um but i've never
01:01:35.100
been to the island but i'm like dude it's weird that you even talk to him if you talk to this guy
01:01:39.160
post 2008 you're weird and you probably even knew before 2008 because like they some of those people
01:01:43.940
say like everybody knew what he was doing even before 2008 with the first conviction so shane i
01:01:49.040
was bummed out because there's a fantastic researcher in the space rupert sheldrake who like does great
01:01:54.520
research on the psychic phenomenon and like real observable ways predictable ways and and he's shown a
01:01:59.620
lot of like really compelling data on it and like yeah the dude is in he's he seems to be funded by
01:02:04.260
2015 to 2018 it's like yeah uh is that necessarily uh you know diane powell for the telepathy tapes to
01:02:10.860
the telepathy tapes right but is that necessarily a condemnation and i think what shane just said is
01:02:15.280
the point post 2008 i think it's a condemnation i think that's a definite you know if you're gonna
01:02:21.480
take money from someone or have this like weird relationship through email or visit him post 2008
01:02:29.080
uh that says so much about your moral character you know we've seen howard lutnik our commerce
01:02:33.740
secretary completely lie openly we've caught him in a lie about it we've seen the files he's had to
01:02:38.880
address them so it's confirmation that a lot of these messages are real so i'm looking at a lot of
01:02:43.760
these messages and being like you know what so one thing that surprised me like what you're saying
01:02:47.600
with sheldrake was the ban and stuff ban and someone i've pretty much defended i you know i've
01:02:52.160
like a lot of things he says you know um and i was aware of the fact that he had made a documentary
01:02:58.740
of epstein so when i heard that years ago i'm like well okay i'm not weirded out by that because i
01:03:04.380
think you should be able to make a documentary write a story about anybody you write one about hitler
01:03:07.220
you write one you can go talk to putin go talk to everybody you know make a documentary now though
01:03:11.920
that narrative is way different you know then at first it was like he was doing a rehabilitation of
01:03:16.820
his character like okay that's bizarre um yep that's a line too far for me but then it's way
01:03:22.520
deeper than that then it's like messages between him and um epstein talking about how they can take
01:03:26.940
out a pope how they can take out uh these editors how they could take out someone within the trump
01:03:30.740
administration 2016 and and he's calling epstein god there's a picture of epstein sitting on bannon's
01:03:36.220
lap i'm like how do you explain that away and so bannon did come out yesterday and he was like well
01:03:41.140
you got to look through all these messages uh through the lens of a documentarian making a documentary
01:03:45.480
i'm like dude that's a line too far for me um i don't think you can say those things morally
01:03:51.080
and and and not have a corrupted soul uh when you're talking to someone like epstein who is a
01:03:57.420
degenerate evil and i'm saying is i think he's still alive and it's intense here with epstein but
01:04:02.440
like i don't think i don't buy that narrative that it was just for a documentary one of the reasons
01:04:07.520
being is like epstein told bannon um you should start a media company to avoid trouble and then he
01:04:13.800
started war room you know so i'm like that doesn't sound like it's documentary connected so that's
01:04:19.320
very upsetting to me and um you know the the conversations between so for one one reason
01:04:24.660
before i go to the next part that shows me uh more of like one of the things out of this files i think
01:04:29.700
is very important for a lot of people to understand is like the right left thing is so stupid we know
01:04:34.300
the left is retarded the right is also very retarded i'm christian i like to vote for people who would
01:04:39.220
do christian uh have uphold christian values but i'm probably not going to vote anymore because i think it's
01:04:43.400
a waste of time uh look what trump did you know he embraced all the uh techno the tech vampires that
01:04:48.860
you know we just talked about day one day one dude with project stargate so i'm over that but and
01:04:54.940
you're seeing though behind the scenes these messages between whether it's bannon peter teal
01:05:00.520
shane can i just tell you something uh that might you probably already know about uh operation stargate in
01:05:06.700
the 70s right of course yeah okay so that's like that all that has all to do with uh like astral
01:05:13.080
you know the astral plane remote viewing astral plane we're not getting into that um ufos shit like
01:05:20.700
that but that's all started from uh that's all uh started from andrija puharic's work work in the
01:05:27.180
1950s and it's like they have just they need they rebranded it they didn't even bother to rename it and
01:05:32.340
they just picked up kept it the same name they picked up the same work but they're using uh more
01:05:36.220
like technologically advanced form of this ai which i think is the same thing as this what does a
01:05:41.380
tripoli say hardwired mysticism it's hardwired mysticism it's like channeling but through the
01:05:45.880
internet and i'm just like man like what are we looking at here and how have we not put these pieces
01:05:50.340
together yet and and like so we're talking about like telepathy telekinesis i forget which word it is
01:05:56.380
but elon is actively maybe he already did trying to um copyright that word telepathy he patented both
01:06:03.880
patented right yeah functions of neural link like uh i think telepathy would be the function of the
01:06:11.240
app that you click to read shane's mind and telekinesis would be to move this thing without
01:06:15.680
my hands yeah they're all in on this you're so you're so that's so true it's like we're watching
01:06:21.500
the evolution of the stargate project now they're manufacturing it in their own way and then to go
01:06:27.840
to the files with the epstein stuff they're talking about how they could inflict trauma on people to
01:06:32.840
unlock psychic abilities whether it's on an individual uh using things like there's things
01:06:38.000
in here about like uh skull to voice uh voice of skull technology um different mk ultra experiments
01:06:44.080
um there's robot mosquitoes in there as well which are interesting but like yeah they're trying to
01:06:50.440
build it now with this technology and uh it's that's just not a conspiracy like people write
01:06:56.740
it off like they've been doing that so totally agree with that but like the beyond that as well
01:07:02.200
is all this all this stuff out here in this world is so fake down to wars i mean we know that but like
01:07:08.560
you're watching them talk about whether it's with bannon or teal or the guy who runs barclays
01:07:14.880
just keep the people confused in chaos by making a war or how can we start a war and then profit off
01:07:22.180
of it or how can we collapse that nation do a regime change and then profit off of that and then also on
01:07:27.400
top of just profiting off of it monetarily um with like currency maybe we can also traffic kids out of
01:07:33.820
there which is like one of the investigations now in turkey they're saying that this came out with the
01:07:38.580
files after the earthquake in turkey i think it was 98 99 thousands of kids went missing and perhaps
01:07:44.000
epstein was involved to some degree i don't know yet that's what that's an allegation and now an
01:07:48.280
investigation that is happening in turkey but that also might remind people of what happened in haiti
01:07:53.560
after an earthquake when a lot of kids went missing and oh the clintons were involved with that
01:07:57.920
by the way i looked that up in the in the files and epstein was uh uh helping fund relief efforts and
01:08:06.040
and you know was part of a trip down there so i guess independently of the clinton foundation at the
01:08:11.100
time although i'm sure not really independently but the clinton foundation is the number one
01:08:15.280
culprit when it comes to that story but if you go and you look to just do a quick search on like
01:08:20.680
haiti earthquake in the doj files and you'll find that uh he was being reached out to by people to
01:08:26.180
fund the relief efforts to take trips down there and and you know this is the question i have here
01:08:31.000
who's who's creating the earthquakes now we get real crazy i mean the same thing that you know
01:08:36.880
earthquake machines i you know maybe in the next three million files we'll find out who is
01:08:41.240
funding the earthquake machines i do believe in that we know russia i mean when i say we know i'll
01:08:45.560
say russia says this but then everything is propaganda so it might not even be true but they
01:08:49.280
have talked about having the tsunami bomb where they can create something they can create a tsunami so
01:08:54.340
dude they're making clouds they're making earthquakes they're making uh tsunamis it's this is
01:09:00.120
this is what i mean when i talk about the simulation we're not in a computer generated simulation
01:09:04.000
they've taken the organic god's green earth and then over that laid yes this like fake reality
01:09:10.700
where they can manipulate anything from war to like the person walking into your grocery store with a
01:09:16.600
gun because they've made him hear voices everything vindication is is weird because it's almost
01:09:21.720
exhausting like somebody in the chat mentioned harp chuck shout out chuck from guam uh mentioned harp
01:09:26.420
and it's like yeah dude uh the idea that they were pumping microwaves into the ionosphere
01:09:33.080
to create localized earthquakes and and weather phenomenon has been around for an incredible
01:09:39.820
amount of time which is say we've spent an incredible amount of time being gaslit you know
01:09:45.140
what i mean i called harp i called harp once you know that you called harp because i i was i was
01:09:51.640
investigating a story about uh these 200 birds that fell out of the sky back in new york i remember when
01:09:57.480
that was happening dude yeah and i was like uh i was like one of my theories was like well the ionosphere
01:10:03.580
because um the birds that fell out of the sky near me i forget what town that was washingtonville or
01:10:08.520
something but um they had they were migratory birds so they had cryptochromes cryptochromes they use the
01:10:14.780
ionosphere to migrate and so the harp affects the ionosphere so i'm like i'm just gonna hit up heart
01:10:21.640
real quick and i talked to the scientists and i was like trying not to sound too schizophrenic but it's
01:10:26.220
pretty hard and you're like i'm writing a story about birds flying out of the sky and uh they're
01:10:30.020
like well we do shoot a beam like a laser into the ionosphere but it's only very localized and it
01:10:36.900
doesn't ripple out i'm just like this is bs like there's no way it's like water like they're just yeah
01:10:42.760
you're gonna contain that causing issues um outside of just above harp uh and i think it's just it's
01:10:49.420
very weird that the uh these birds with cryptochromes who need the ionosphere happen to be falling out of
01:10:55.300
the sky by the hundreds or the thousands and people could say what was fireworks here or this
01:10:59.740
and that but like the one that i know about didn't happen it's weird it's super weird so i remember
01:11:04.680
that dude they were like it's fireworks and the and the and they're making the birds crash into you
01:11:09.220
know all kinds of crap trees and everything like that and there were trees that had rings of dead
01:11:13.500
birds around them yeah there was uh there was a period of time where uh conspiracies were popping
01:11:19.000
off and they were like mass die-offs those were fun conspiracies right just those were fun that
01:11:23.040
the big noises the big noises were fun too it'd be like this metallic scraping down that would fill
01:11:30.060
you know every inch of the atmosphere and people wouldn't be able to figure out where it was coming
01:11:34.680
i think they were probably drilling at the time uh for you know these underground bases or something
01:11:39.380
like that yeah and i think that you hit a certain kind of stone or something with that drill and it's
01:11:44.760
going to like vibrate and make this unbelievable sound we know when portals open i mean that's an
01:11:49.640
interesting thing too yeah it's like a they describe as a large heavy metal door scraping
01:11:54.980
sounds a lot like that because i used to say it sounded like god uh pushing a desk across the
01:11:59.160
ground like you know like a desk in school if you move the teacher's desk um so this vindication you
01:12:05.960
know it's a really weird time we got our hands full right as as people who are pursuing the truth and
01:12:11.640
then and then trying to like make content about it it's like how could you right now with 3.5 million
01:12:18.020
documents out um they're going to be revelation after revelation after revelation and i made a
01:12:23.840
tweet a couple of days ago maybe maybe uh the day after the first wave of fc files they were dropped
01:12:29.900
on a friday so that saturday i said look out for three things um or i'm at least looking out for three
01:12:35.760
things the full economic collapse the collapse of the dollar um israel versus iran which i think
01:12:42.680
i want to say here on on paper if it's america versus iran well that's still israel versus iran
01:12:49.320
and um and the third thing was alien disclosure yeah and i have a tweet here uh if you can pull
01:12:56.460
this up on on stage top this happened last night so it's really fantastic time to have you on uh
01:13:01.440
shane because it's like just one fun thing after another thing keeps happening um based on the
01:13:07.760
tremendous hold on a second so based on the tremendous where the hell is the thing i'm sorry
01:13:14.760
interest shown this is from donald trump um i will be directing the secretary of war and other relevant
01:13:21.580
departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files
01:13:25.540
related to alien and extraterrestrial life unidentified aerial phenomena uaps and unidentified flying
01:13:32.700
objects ufos and any and all other information connected to these highly complex but extremely
01:13:38.260
interesting and important matters god bless america and as um my favorite intelligence asset
01:13:46.140
and i do mean that with uh with the most grace alex jones says over the weekend obama announced that
01:13:53.300
aliens were real and four days later trump says brace for disclosure and he goes on to say i would say
01:13:58.200
this is just another epstein distraction which is a a fair take uh but trump has been promising to do
01:14:03.460
this for years trump orders declassification of all evidence of ufos etc etc so yeah that's just off the
01:14:09.660
back of like uh a pretty flipping something that i really didn't read into too much i did think it
01:14:16.600
was interesting just given the climate you know the cultural climate the social climate of uh ufo disclosure
01:14:23.540
when obama says i think they're real i haven't seen any that's pretty much the extent of what he said
01:14:28.640
um and i go that's an interesting little drop in the bucket you know what i mean you have a guy like
01:14:32.280
obama saying that and then yeah a couple of days later trump goes oh he shouldn't have said that and
01:14:36.520
then he says that he he really he said something that was classified which is also fascinating i don't
01:14:41.080
think that that makes any sense given the context like very excited to be like i'm glad he said it
01:14:45.560
because now we could release this stuff yeah yeah and so to me it's all a song and dance i don't think
01:14:50.900
obama genuinely said anything he wasn't supposed to say or anything like that this is just do you
01:14:56.000
know this podcast this guy has like millions of followers i guess never heard of whatever podcast
01:15:00.000
he was it's incredible and you know maybe we were living in our own ecosystem but i'm just like a
01:15:05.100
couple of these guys yeah american alchemists as one of them like who wait how was i not aware of
01:15:10.000
this where'd you come from the expert how did you get the president united states on this i don't even
01:15:14.340
know her show i don't even know if that's what he was on i have no idea what platform he was on i
01:15:18.340
i don't really watch any podcast but i know that yeah um but you know just a slow clap for me because
01:15:25.660
i swear to god we're gonna we're gonna nuke iran tomorrow or something uh and then of course you
01:15:30.720
know disclosure happening um and all we need now is the collapse of the dollar so um look these things
01:15:36.640
are not difficult to have predicted in in fact they're incredibly in my opinion low-hanging fruit
01:15:42.860
very obvious um i didn't make a call that was profound it resonated with a lot of people i think
01:15:48.420
that's because a lot of people could see that as a high likelihood now here we are what's today's date
01:15:53.020
it is february 20th and this donald trump tweet was just from yesterday what do you make specifically
01:15:59.900
shane of like where we're going next because i have a feeling and i have said this for a while
01:16:08.040
that the epstein files would be released when we were ready for the next part of the play the theater
01:16:13.580
the script i think that's what's happening what do you think is coming yeah i i think they're ushering
01:16:19.540
in the next shift in human perception and they're going to want to shift and it's not going to be
01:16:24.720
towards christ you know it's going to be whatever manufactured thing they've been cooking up like a
01:16:29.700
manhattan project uh behind the scenes you know when he tweets out you know because the the
01:16:35.180
overwhelming interest it's like okay so you market tested disclosure and now you think it's okay
01:16:40.500
to release this like if it was that important if this is so like such an existential uh i don't say
01:16:47.840
crisis but this is an existential moment for human nature if you believe in aliens in that hollywood
01:16:53.360
sense which i don't you know you think you just say it now you know they were talking about he's
01:16:58.340
talking about something very serious if you're talking about like just the normal corporate press
01:17:02.840
looking at this through the lens of like you know uh any movie like independence day of aliens are
01:17:08.480
here oh my goodness and not in like a demon sense um at the very least you're saying like people are
01:17:14.320
being taken against their will um experimented on tormented i mean because because the abduction
01:17:21.280
phenomenon is an accepted part of the narrative i don't think they're going to go this far i think
01:17:25.900
i think like the depth that we'll get this is just my inclination of it's like so we have the epstein
01:17:30.860
files and we need a good distraction and a good distraction is going to be a recovery from the
01:17:35.480
economic collapse that we're about to experience and uh like in the introduction of the technology
01:17:40.780
is not something that's going to be beyond them i know imagine saying this on tim cast like i actually
01:17:45.860
disagree though i don't think that alien disclosure that seems to be the conventional take is that alien
01:17:51.560
disclosure is to distract because last time the epstein files kind of came up in a big way uh john
01:17:56.660
podesta and hillary clinton rebranded uh ufos into uaps and then started that conversation and
01:18:02.220
you know people looked at it as like a an attempt to divert attention and people are saying the same
01:18:07.640
thing now but that was never the lens that i looked at it through i said that if this came to pass it
01:18:11.900
was because they were ready for the next state and that next stage i think is like this great deception
01:18:16.060
where the nature of reality shifts dramatically um by way of narrative control and so i don't think this
01:18:23.700
is i think this is just like step one is release these things step two is alien disclosure step
01:18:28.000
three is you know the economic collapse uh nuclear war where there's an alien intervention uh a recall
01:18:34.860
and consolidation of a one world currency and and you know a one world government under these things
01:18:39.620
like i think this is all they're not meant to obfuscate one another they're meant to be a series of
01:18:44.440
traumatic events that ushers in a new era i think they've reconsidered how to do blue beam if blue
01:18:51.060
beams real which i think is something they've definitely talked about they they chose not to
01:18:56.080
do it in this giant hologram thing perhaps but that they were like okay people aren't going to buy it
01:19:02.000
like that we need to slow drip this information into their consciousness over time uh and slowly get
01:19:09.200
to this new point where we will create something i don't know what it's gonna be maybe it's ai maybe
01:19:14.440
you know like um annie jacobson once said that she had a source in area 51 that told her they took
01:19:19.820
autistic kids and turned them into extraterrestrials to scare the soviets but even that story might be
01:19:24.940
sketchy but anything's possible they're going to try to show us something and get most people on
01:19:31.220
board in the same way that they got a lot of people on board to get vaccinated and then if you're not on
01:19:36.040
board with that narrative we're going to go through the whole cycle again of like oh you're crazy for
01:19:40.260
doing this you can't be trusted maybe there'll be lockdowns because of this you know because there's
01:19:44.460
people talk about uh climate lockdowns but now we could enter an age where you know we don't there's
01:19:49.260
something in the sky they're going to come here any moment and people are going to freak out about
01:19:52.260
this new invisible enemy and that all it's about is control so i don't think there's anything like i
01:19:58.680
mean i think there's demons i know there are um i don't think there's aliens in that sense of like
01:20:04.380
little green men and flying saucers but i it seems like they're going to go with that narrative
01:20:09.920
however people like anna polina luna who i'm pretty skeptical of she has mentioned uh the book of
01:20:16.680
enoch when talking about these demons aliens so yeah it makes me actually really uncertain
01:20:22.480
exactly exactly but i'm like is there a war happening behind the scenes that's like a
01:20:27.700
hyper-partisan war about disclosure on how they try to sell the idea of aliens is it going to be a
01:20:32.800
biblical bent to it does that matter to them it will be more hollywood classic little green men
01:20:38.000
or tall grays whatever um but it or will people even care like i don't know if people are going to
01:20:44.660
get on board that's the other thing is like they might have overplayed their hand i do think this
01:20:49.100
is a distraction from the epstein files we have real world implications allegedly a lot of these
01:20:53.480
people we're seeing people get arrested even though prince andrew was already let out uh we're seeing
01:20:57.460
people resign left and right because they're just mentioning the epstein files they weren't even
01:21:01.100
accused of every of anything um so there's like real interesting stuff that's going on there but trump
01:21:06.320
has been telling us he it's time to move on from the epstein files uh and here he is having this
01:21:11.900
little you know alien disclosure thing just doesn't seem real doesn't seem like it's going to be
01:21:16.800
effective and i'm very curious like you know i just can't help but think of the uh mexican government
01:21:22.140
rolling out those alien corpses a few years ago like what i thought those were cake i think that's why
01:21:27.620
that's why i don't think this this iteration of disclosure is going to be uh of the spiritual
01:21:33.480
nature they're they're still setting that up and i think we accidentally stepped in some shit when we
01:21:37.480
were uh we were battling the people's narratives unknowingly you know we're actually battling uh
01:21:44.740
government narratives but i think what's going to happen here is like if i was if i was the powers that
01:21:49.600
be and i agree with what you're saying i just don't think like the play is is the timing is right
01:21:54.480
for that play but if i would if i were the powers that be i would introduce a technology that would
01:22:00.340
help society and i'd make you be really friendly with this technology and then maybe years later
01:22:06.340
then i'll tell you who gave it to us that's like a childhood's end kind of right now even though
01:22:11.140
you have like fake uh archaeologists saying that they're aliens are not demons i scroll through my
01:22:17.780
twitter feed and people that i don't know i i took a screenshot and there's like five of them in a row
01:22:22.580
yeah and it's like yo these are demons so people are already they're like onto it there's a spiritual
01:22:27.280
awakening happening in a sense of awakening to what i don't know but people know for sure
01:22:31.540
this shit ain't it yeah so this has to be sold in a different way and i think the way that you sell
01:22:36.180
this is uh you know like this is what this is what we can give you i think you're probably right a
01:22:40.880
little while you know you're probably right because that technology well yeah they might they might do
01:22:45.840
something like that hey i'm talking about uh more broadly the like zero point gravity technology is
01:22:52.480
that that i would say that would change that changes so much of our human aspect a lot of
01:22:57.600
scarcities i mean right now eliminated yeah scarcities would be eliminated almost completely
01:23:02.360
when we're talking about just gas or the propulsion model of getting to a place or getting to another
01:23:06.940
place even like how we work how food is transported yeah how labor works yeah in these industries yeah
01:23:12.440
just time in general this this changes everything and it's in a crazy way that introduced to the public
01:23:19.060
even in its if it's in its softest sense in like its most watered down sense if we have something
01:23:24.160
that's better uh than regular gasoline propulsion or even electric propulsion like cars like that
01:23:30.120
we're in a different world and how how the economy responds to that who knows but it changes
01:23:35.720
the dynamic of everything and i think it does it in a better way of course there's going to be drawback
01:23:40.420
like people will be getting like mega cancer and stuff like that but uh well i wouldn't be surprised
01:23:45.240
if they fixed a lot of that but i think you're absolutely right it's like look at how long
01:23:48.440
this operation has been this psychological operation the narrative control the propaganda
01:23:54.540
machine hollywood you know what's been going on since operation paperclip like it's a long
01:23:59.060
time i don't think that they would just i think you're right they wouldn't just do it at the end
01:24:04.980
with a big snap like we would still be in this slow roll i think i keep bringing up like arthur c
01:24:09.140
clark's childhoods and if they do introduce these uh technologies that improve all these systems
01:24:15.580
let's say the the whole cancer industry right like everybody's been saying that's a a bullshit
01:24:19.540
you know operation to just keep the money coming in let's say they fix that let's say there's been
01:24:24.420
like two dudes out there right now that have just said that they they've cured different types of
01:24:28.240
cancers with a multitude of yeah i mean it keeps happening for years but no i mean just in the last
01:24:32.600
three weeks probably a guy with a big like birthmark on his face he's only like prostate cancer right
01:24:38.260
and there's another person that came out right so so if you do that and then let's say there is like
01:24:43.920
this constant looming of war in the middle east and it and it finally does come to this head where
01:24:49.340
it's a nuclear exchange and these things intervene in some way and then they do the the childhoods and
01:24:55.040
thing where they they pull back it's like just because they intervene just because they make
01:24:58.060
themselves known doesn't mean they're going to make everything about themselves known and we do live
01:25:02.360
in this like utopia for a number of years like yeah that is how you would want to acclimate us to
01:25:07.520
these things so that and then god forbid shane during this time anybody said this is demonic
01:25:13.960
right if anybody said that they'd be standing in the way of progress they'd be standing away that
01:25:19.320
well what's going on with the wars being settled what's going on with the the systems being uh you
01:25:25.360
know having this technology integrated and all the wonderful things that you know have come out of it
01:25:29.840
if you if you stand up as a christian during that time and you go no these things are demonic
01:25:33.460
people are going to go this these things cured my grandmother of cancer you know these things stopped
01:25:39.220
nuclear exchange in the middle east these things made it so that people didn't have to work in coal
01:25:44.680
mines and and you know labor uh looking for cobalt and and and shit like that like all of those things
01:25:51.180
are gone and this is demonic like yeah they'll they'll probably kill you for that so to like try to tie
01:25:56.380
this to the back to the epstein files whether we're talking about your like the cyclical nature of
01:26:01.600
disclosure and how long it takes for them to want to drip it out to us um and then like for so so
01:26:08.280
with that route is like in the epstein files you see peter i think it's peter teal and him epstein
01:26:15.480
or no no it's it's bannon and epstein talking about how the elite have a different concept of time
01:26:20.500
uh which is i i take it as like because they're transhumanists most these people are transhumanists
01:26:26.160
teal obviously epstein elon all of them they want to manufacture immortality on earth by marrying
01:26:33.180
their digital physical their digital body with their physical body plus whatever other abominations
01:26:38.960
they want to do and so by doing that and by thinking they can live forever or at least longer
01:26:43.320
they have a different idea of not just time but then consequence so they're seeing us with a
01:26:48.700
different we are in a different time you know zone technically than they are and so they know they
01:26:54.180
have to treat us a certain way because that's how they view us um and uh i think that's fairly
01:27:00.740
accurate because if they think they're going to live for a few hundred years or they want to someone
01:27:04.700
like ray kurzweil wants to upload his consciousness to a computer and you know peter teal wants to do
01:27:09.460
you know he had that ambrosia company when you know his bags of blood from young men that he could
01:27:14.620
inject um because of parabiosis studies with mice and um yes yep which by the way like i'm a fan of
01:27:21.380
rogan but he i don't know how knowingly he was doing this if he was complicit but he was like
01:27:26.540
popularizing and normalizing that that line that that idea right there i i look at rogan's show like
01:27:34.320
it's the new laurel canyon like all of these things now that they've been refined all these programs
01:27:38.980
they're being reintroduced to the public but instead of through you know the music industry and such they're
01:27:42.820
using like you know and peter teal's on that show you know peter teal's on that show with no no push
01:27:47.840
back at all you don't have to push back on your guests but i think i think peter teal is someone
01:27:52.220
who's worthy of pushback and uh and then so then he's so peter teal's obviously a transhumanist and
01:27:58.540
then to go back to what you were saying about like um if you stand up from a christian point of
01:28:04.220
view and say this is bad you know that is actually what's happening right now with ai and peter teal
01:28:09.740
where he says you are these are his words you are a legionnaire of the antichrist if you so much as
01:28:16.340
criticize artificial intelligence he had his whole speech like three four day speech about that that
01:28:22.800
was his take i was fascinated about that because he was he was talking about the antichrist and i didn't
01:28:27.660
know i don't know if it was like a walled at the time or something like that you had to buy a
01:28:31.580
subscription to something to watch that thing and also it's it was a four day he thinks greta thunberg
01:28:36.500
is more like the antichrist than he himself i guess you know because he thinks that she's like
01:28:42.700
this false like i'm not defending her i don't like her but to say that she's antichrist like look
01:28:47.760
she's she can do whatever she wants i don't see her actually building out the surveillance state
01:28:53.260
and trying to manufacture heaven and actually doing anti-christian things while claiming to be
01:28:57.740
christian uh like peter teal and his cohort uh so i think that it's super weird for him did he have
01:29:03.940
like a an idea like you know what the because i was fascinated by it but like i said i never watched
01:29:09.220
it what was who who was the antichrist and what is it what are his thoughts on the nature of the
01:29:12.940
antichrist so i didn't i would have imagined he was going to say it was going to come by way of
01:29:16.660
artificial intelligence that i'm working on yeah he he actually thinks that people who criticize
01:29:22.220
the progress of ai are part of the antichrist or legionnaires of the antichrist i so i didn't
01:29:27.880
watch the uh that speech the four day four part speech you have to like buy tickets and go there
01:29:33.440
but um yeah i've seen him talk about it quite a bit and what i my interpretation is he he first of all
01:29:40.980
he doesn't really like america um and he believes in monopolizing your company so you want to control
01:29:46.860
everything because he's he's an authoritarian you know and he buys into in my opinion i think he buys
01:29:51.960
into accelerationism to get you to a point so he can usher in that authoritarian government which
01:29:57.240
is scary since he's one of trump's biggest backers since 2015 and they all look up to someone like
01:30:02.000
curtis yarvin who i'm not a fan of and curtis yarvin is very much and you know he wrote under
01:30:06.080
mentions mold bug and he wrote about how we can usher in you know um this authoritarian world by uh
01:30:12.300
collapsing uh the country the the society and so it's a thing that's something a lot of like
01:30:17.980
accelerationists look up to you see that yak like movement and stuff and i'm not into accelerationism
01:30:22.880
at all whether it's people you know like the red heifer situation is a form of accelerationism uh
01:30:28.480
there's a seven mountain mandate for other christians that's super false theology that's
01:30:32.440
another form of accelerationism there's right and left accelerationism and it seems that like teal
01:30:37.980
and those people vance vivek uh that all those tech vampires are into that and uh so like
01:30:44.220
wanting to wanting to monopolize your company is something that all those tech guys really want
01:30:49.520
which is you know i think perverse and against freedom and uh it's just crazy that now we have
01:30:57.780
a president who's completely embraced that you know he's he's completely abandoned farmers the middle
01:31:03.360
class uh and just overall americans to usher in these people through project stargate and other forms
01:31:11.080
of these like giant billion dollar shrines to ai and they're like well this is a future if you don't
01:31:16.580
like it you're out and that's you know and then teal would say if you don't like it you're actually a
01:31:20.420
legionnaire of the antichrist i you know i don't know this is kind of part of what we were talking
01:31:29.780
about top and i maybe two weeks ago we talked to ed mabry after the first wave of epstein files was
01:31:37.100
released and he wanted to give his thoughts on it in particular how to prepare people spiritually
01:31:43.000
because it's there is a demoralization angle right it's this is a heavy thing spiritually speaking and
01:31:51.560
and it's difficult to navigate you know i i find it kind of easy because i think there's um i don't
01:31:58.740
want to say a numbing but an acclimation that takes place if you're familiar with these things for
01:32:02.700
all this time and to be perfectly honest what we're finding out right now is that the world has
01:32:09.820
been in this state you know since the old testament if you're if you're reading the bible and you're
01:32:16.760
learning about people worshiping false gods and false idols you know being warned not to sacrifice
01:32:22.860
not to give their their children uh unto the fires of molek um cannibalism you know taking
01:32:31.620
people slavery you know into slavery it's it's all been happened it's all it's just the world so so
01:32:38.640
what we're finding out right now is that the world has been as it's always been and that's not really a
01:32:43.000
shock to me but one of the things that he said was this idea of like normalization which is something
01:32:49.120
that i just hadn't really seriously considered and afterwards you know through that lens we started
01:32:56.160
to notice like oh this this could be a real thing and and top i think you said it um this idea that
01:33:05.040
people are going to see this and then like maybe they're going to emulate it and i think that when
01:33:10.160
you start to tell people hey much can be achieved through the ritual sacrifice and torture of in
01:33:19.700
particular children and science has very seriously considered what can be gained by way of disassociative
01:33:30.240
states you know induced by this trauma so it's not just this ritual ceremony spiritual angle it's also
01:33:37.000
like the nuts and bolts scientific community has learned that there are things that are beyond
01:33:43.660
the reach of modern day science god forbid it is framed as though um the progress of science has been
01:33:55.100
stifled over the last however many decades because the last frontier is this this is the thing the
01:34:03.220
threshold that stands in the way is look what can be achieved with the proper sacrifice and the proper
01:34:09.720
amount of trauma and i forgot what it was that i initially saw oh uh we played a video the other
01:34:18.120
day on neft to america it was aubrey marcus of on it um the the supplement company talking with a guy i
01:34:24.720
don't know what his name is who basically is just saying like he's telling aubrey that the the sacrifice
01:34:31.600
of children and all these things the trauma you know even the the rape and murder of individuals is
01:34:39.420
permitted he's like we have to acknowledge like the good parts of it yeah the good parts of it and
01:34:43.660
aubrey is pushing back against it and um but he's saying that your your rejection of this is only due to
01:34:51.200
your moral framework and everybody else has their own moral framework some are some people are different
01:34:56.020
very much the argument that we ran into with albarino it's it these people with morals or uh
01:35:01.920
you know strict spiritual withholdings he says that they stand in the way they stand in the way and i
01:35:07.500
don't disagree i don't disagree we do stand in the way yeah bravely because this is something that is
01:35:13.120
it's it's not okay there's not there's not um you know wisdom and intellect by absolutely any cost
01:35:19.300
is not um uh a moral or dogma that i live by and so um in this video with obby marcus the guy
01:35:25.900
basically says like no one on this earth will stand between me and and research and that's that's
01:35:32.920
very fascinating so chinese scientist who went to jail for doing some experiments with babies when he got
01:35:39.100
out i think this is someone recently last year maybe he said you know ethics is really standing in
01:35:43.740
the way of the experiments i wanted to stand in the way of progress is fascinating right now
01:35:48.860
that and that is human nature and you're right since since the fall of man this is what's been
01:35:53.360
going on so this is i want to play this this is new to me i haven't seen it this is um it's a two
01:35:58.440
minute clip so we're probably gonna end up pausing it and discussing a little bit but i do want to get
01:36:02.080
through it because it seems like an important one to get the full context for it and we're not going
01:36:05.840
to watch you know the full episode but at least a full clip um so the quotes here this is chent
01:36:11.820
yuger who by the way very very comically said uh i'm starting this is recently like like a week ago
01:36:18.160
he goes i'm starting to doubt the official narrative on 9 11 and to which i quote tweeted him and said
01:36:24.540
shut the fuck up because it's just so it's just so stupid to be in 2026 and have this dude you know
01:36:32.140
with all his influence and and everything say such a profound you know i'm starting to think that maybe
01:36:36.940
9 11 wasn't quite what it seemed like oh my god so chent yuger having a discussion with sam harris
01:36:43.560
and the quotes that we see here is uh i imagine these are coming from sam harris quote why can't we
01:36:49.420
eat babies another quote yeah what's wrong with eating babies and a third quote if we have extra
01:36:55.500
babies around actually it's very funny and no one wants them why can't we eat them so um i want to
01:37:03.000
let this rip and we'll pause it and we'll you know we'll pick it apart about your beliefs right so
01:37:07.360
you know why can't we eat babies what's wrong with eating babies if we've got extra babies around that
01:37:11.160
nobody wants why can't we eat them right um i get i i i'm really worried about that line of thinking
01:37:18.300
i think that's wrong and i'm i think it's a little dangerous it sounds almost a little that's you're not
01:37:24.680
a man you're just you're just not imagining those circumstances no no no no so let me let me clarify
01:37:29.240
this is important right so it has such terrible consequences both in terms of what we are doing
01:37:35.160
to our captors and what we are doing to our own morality and the message we're sending to the rest
01:37:39.320
of the world about whether we're good guys or bad guys that i wouldn't do it i might not do it even
01:37:44.280
if i thought that it was absolutely going to work when i don't think it is it's very unlikely once
01:37:50.120
you start once you no it's not that's why you've got to avoid those beginnings to avoid those endings
01:37:54.760
they never started little and you remained little it only starts a little bit and then
01:37:58.920
they're drawing and quartering you're ignoring half of my argument which is i'm arguing in most
01:38:03.960
cases it's not psychopathology that this is a damn that seems like an incredible this is very this
01:38:10.120
is eerily familiar this is just like the discussion aubry marcus had with that guy this is um you know
01:38:18.200
this is the danger of intellectualism that's void of spirituality this is the danger of of like this
01:38:25.640
idea of of gnostic knowledge yes and the search of it like which is i think is a path that all of us
01:38:32.520
might have been on at some point or another like you pick up some occult books and you start reading
01:38:36.360
yeah and you go oh damn looks like that works and then there is that temptation like if that does work
01:38:42.440
what if i just well this is this is you know chronos burden with the knowledge that one of his
01:38:48.280
children will will kill him or overthrow him so he starts just eating all of his children to try to
01:38:53.400
avoid it and and what that what the the gift of knowledge does to him is it turns him into a
01:38:58.680
fucking monster isn't this the same guy who said he didn't care if uh hunter biden killed a kid or
01:39:03.480
something and he'd still vote for biden like he he is a godless obviously godless man and uh you know
01:39:09.720
i've seen him talk about like he doesn't think free will exist he thinks we're just totally
01:39:14.360
deterministic and that there's no obviously he doesn't believe in a god so he like extends this
01:39:21.800
odd man-made redemption to the worst of the people in society like even um pedophiles by saying they were
01:39:32.600
determined to do so so how can we punish them and a lot of people who believe in determinism they believe
01:39:38.520
that like maybe we shouldn't uh like remove them from society we have some other way of dealing
01:39:44.280
with these people because they couldn't help it this is just how they were you know predetermined to
01:39:48.280
act certain ways um you know i i don't believe in the death penalty but i do believe we should
01:39:52.760
be removing people from society uh in some way in some prison or something who harm kids uh yeah we had
01:40:00.760
that that's like a very dangerous path of thinking with him like i've never really heard anything from him
01:40:05.320
it's been a while since i've heard anything from sam harris that uh registers is anything moral
01:40:10.520
well there was a time when he was like this you know intellectual kind of authority intellectual
01:40:16.120
dark web him dave rubin jordan peterson my have fallen uh rogan's still up there i guess but he's
01:40:22.440
not i wouldn't consider him intellectual he was just always the facilitator of these guys no but he was
01:40:26.600
like supposed to be part of that whole thing what's the other guy just paying the dinner bill
01:40:29.800
yeah yeah those guys but in your when when you when you interviewed when you were with
01:40:36.760
what's his name alex rosen and you were doing that i remember when one of the pieces that you wrote
01:40:40.840
you were talking about what you saw in that guy's eyes when when he got caught and he was trapped
01:40:45.800
could you describe that i feel like we've covered it before but that's just it's a fascinating thing
01:40:50.360
yeah there's like a so we call like a bunch of different guys and there's a moment with each of them
01:40:55.400
where once they realize they've been actually trapped and there's no way of talking themselves
01:40:59.880
out of they all try to like charm out charm their way out of the situation uh as we're confronting
01:41:04.760
them with this material that they've been sending to what they believe to be little girls 11 12 year
01:41:09.800
old girls where like the eyes like like it's almost like uh whatever facade was in their eyes disappears
01:41:16.840
and now you're looking into like this just void and you're looking at the demon that's when i started
01:41:21.560
to use the word demon you know i was like that was one of those words i was just like
01:41:25.000
like evil or good didn't really resonate with me until i became a christian and realized like it is
01:41:30.280
just that simple it's good and evil right and then i'm like looking at this guy in this field
01:41:34.600
and i'm like that's a demon you know he tried to say uh he tried to just squirm his way out of the
01:41:41.000
situation i was hurt as a child i did this either that then he he crapped himself right in front of us
01:41:46.520
and in this field these people there's children playing in the yard across the street and um you know
01:41:52.680
alex is so good at getting these guys to talk and this is my i think that was my first one you know
01:41:58.200
we kind of like had to track this guy down and follow him it's crazy but yeah there's a moment
01:42:02.440
for all these guys that i saw that weekend where they're like the scales fall away and then you're
01:42:07.640
just staring at someone who realizes they've been trapped and it's like i it reminded me of like
01:42:13.000
finding an animal uh that had been caught in a trap and it's it's beyond the point of them struggling
01:42:19.800
or even trying to like eat their leg off it's the point of like i've given up there's nothing i can
01:42:24.520
do now i i guess i'll just lay here and uh and wait and see what happens and uh it was man that was
01:42:31.240
a crazy thing to see because it was all types of people too you know it was like some of them were
01:42:34.920
the cliche just disgusting warts with like legs these you know obese man you'd be like that's a just your
01:42:42.600
typical pedophile demon and then there were guys who were like we get they had like we the people
01:42:47.640
tattoos and american flags in the yard and maga bumper stickers and uh fire of arms instructors
01:42:53.720
firefighters and they also are into this and it was just made me also at that time think of like
01:43:00.760
you know people have this idea in their head of like only like the right would be like it's only
01:43:05.000
creepy people on the left who are these types of people and then the left would be like well it's
01:43:09.640
you know these people on the right it's it's everybody this thing this evil thing is it's not partisan
01:43:16.120
it exists for some reason in all people uh not all people but in various people across all platforms
01:43:23.080
across all types of um institutions whether it's these guys who work at 7-eleven or politicians
01:43:29.400
presidents and you know you name it um but yeah i'll dude i'll never forget the way those their eyes just
01:43:35.400
changed like a black cloud came over them and we got to see the actual them uh when they realized like
01:43:41.880
there was no getting out of it that's that's a fascinating disposition right i i wonder what
01:43:49.880
that you know we're listening to chent and and sam harris talk and it's like i can't help but wonder
01:43:57.880
if that's what the internal dialogue of an individual sounds like you know before they're willing to
01:44:04.360
um engage in something that like a domino effect leads to horrifying shit like what you're describing
01:44:10.520
i think that i've experienced people like this and i i don't want to i guess i'll cut sam harris some
01:44:17.320
slack maybe he hasn't eaten babies or partaken in this sort of thing but there is this mentality and
01:44:22.120
specifically in the libertarian party of people to uh dig into these things and continue to put aside
01:44:30.200
morals and boundaries in order to get to what's underneath it's like the apple right they want they
01:44:35.400
want to bite that apple so badly that they're like and i understand the logic behind it because
01:44:39.800
if you do want to get to these inner workings of things you do have to discard your morality and you
01:44:44.040
have to discard polite society to get crally right exactly it's exactly like that it's every iterance of
01:44:48.920
black magic that we've ever seen from the top of the government to your lowest which they consent to
01:44:54.840
putting these things aside and i could again i can understand the logical formation of doing that if
01:45:00.520
your goal is to get to these things but we're we're not called to do those things it's it's fairly clear
01:45:07.560
where that gets you and and these people have not learned and they will never learn they're going to
01:45:12.280
do this that's my thing is like if we get to there there's um right now the bar to entry is besides like
01:45:20.840
some sort of lowly pedophile right there's certainly a a tier to pedophilia you could be uh an island
01:45:29.080
owner and a facilitator of of this sort of a thing or you could just be some schmuck who works at
01:45:35.640
all these and and gets caught you know uh thinking that you're talking to a 12 year old and it's actually
01:45:42.120
like a six foot five bald red bearded linebacker um but uh i think that what happens is for those
01:45:54.760
people who are susceptible to that sort of idea that are willing to do that sort of thing but they
01:46:01.160
don't have the connections and the money and the intellect to cross that threshold into the upper
01:46:06.760
echelons of uh you know pedophilic behavior when they are made aware that by the way that thing
01:46:15.880
it's like the key to unlocking the psychic phenomenon it's the key to um conducting ritual
01:46:25.160
that allows you to sort of manipulate the fabric of this reality and bend it to your will it's the key
01:46:32.120
to uh communing with entities that can bring you multitudes of success be it financial um you know
01:46:41.720
relationship or influence you name it right because i mean that's what we're talking about
01:46:46.360
at the end of the day we're looking at like let's say these hollywood elites or these music industry
01:46:49.880
people and and what they're dealing with is entities they're sacrificing to entities which by the way
01:46:55.720
on on the side of norm normalizing these things uh azalea banks um the dude scrilla or whatever who did
01:47:04.200
the six seven meme they just came out openly and they're like yeah yeah we do say you know we do
01:47:09.720
santeria we sacrifice animals goats and chickens azalea banks just made a video on on her tick tock
01:47:16.680
i think where she's like it's here's my chicken sacrificing closet you know this dude's with
01:47:21.960
like the piss closet and everything this is a closet that's coated yeah in chicken blood and she's like
01:47:27.800
i gotta clean it i haven't cleaned it in three years are you are you like uh presuming that the
01:47:31.880
epstein files are the road because yeah a lot of these people are i'm saying there's baby fuckers out
01:47:37.080
there they're gonna go huh i've been doing this yeah it's like giving somebody a dollar and they're
01:47:40.920
going to the store and buying a scratch off with it rather than be like no you could actually use
01:47:44.600
this dollar to do something else yes they've been given a road map of that's creepy i think that's
01:47:49.960
what's gonna happen i think and then you have these guys sam harris he's not afraid to say it the guy who
01:47:54.200
sits across from aubrey marcus who's not afraid to cross that threshold uh azalea banks is not afraid to
01:47:59.800
say hey i've been sacrificing chickens uh the scrilla guy who goes hyper viral for the six seven
01:48:04.840
thing is telling people i do this i pray to these gods i put spells and curses on people i do it to
01:48:11.080
chickens i do it to goats what's the next logical step well this dude is is rich he's rich and he's
01:48:17.480
well and he's and he's powerful when he's and he's got all this stuff what is it goat is it the size
01:48:23.640
that gets you the big payout is it goat more valuable than a chicken what's more valuable than a
01:48:28.680
goat and that goes back to the old testament right isn't it was it leviticus where they're
01:48:32.520
sending the goat into the wilderness for azazel or however you say the name yeah so this is ancient
01:48:38.360
ancient stuff and i get what you're saying like there's people gonna be like oh wow i could i could
01:48:42.680
take it up a notch and do this but i i am on the flip side seeing how this is the there's no there's
01:48:50.920
less of a taboo now for people to talk about like this pedophile network and now parents are like
01:48:56.280
you know someone like michael tracy's like there's a moral panic happening and then people are worried
01:49:01.240
about pedophiles everyone like dude there are pedophiles everywhere i like so go back to the
01:49:05.640
alex rosen story we were just in two counties in ohio for like three days and there were multiple
01:49:11.720
men we could have just kept going and going and going we could not slept and just kept catching
01:49:15.480
people he had stacks of paper of men wanting to do these things to children that was just in two
01:49:21.480
counties in ohio this dude travels the country you know it's not just this country it's everywhere
01:49:25.720
so they there is there is a reason to have a moral panic and i'm glad we're having a moral panic now
01:49:31.320
because i think the satanic panic was real i think the satanic panic was actually a psyop to discredit
01:49:35.720
people from saying there was actually a satanic problem uh because there was so i think you're
01:49:39.640
right about that yeah we have michael aquino who's in the military you know you guys have seen this
01:49:44.120
guy with the freaking um eyebrows you know he accused of pedophilia at um the presidio military
01:49:49.960
child care who is openly temple of set founder and also with anton lave before that we know satanists
01:49:56.680
run this uh we're in satan's territory uh and it's unfortunate but this disclosure in terms of emails
01:50:04.840
and the epstein files is waking i don't say everyone up but it's waking a lot of people up to being like
01:50:09.560
there is you know uh a problem here and there are after our kids and why do we have hundreds of
01:50:16.520
thousands of kids that go missing over the southern border you know why are they trying to clone
01:50:20.760
people why are they actually talking about purchasing babies what are they doing is it just for trafficking
01:50:26.440
are they also experimenting it's probably both and uh i think this is a conversation we should be having
01:50:31.640
and it's very telling that our president is saying it's time to move on and i think he's only doing
01:50:36.200
that because it's all his buddies who are partaking in this and maybe even him you know i'm not no one's
01:50:41.640
spared that's why i want i'm really like i'm going to run for president i'm telling you right here and
01:50:46.040
i'm going to my only platform is i'm going to have nuremberg trials at the iowa state fair for uh
01:50:51.480
america's 250th birthday and everyone involved in warp speed and in this pedophilia ring and the epstein
01:50:57.000
files look you might be innocent but we got to question you you know next to the um the dunk booth and if
01:51:02.680
if it's a it's a big no for you look i don't want to kill you i'm not part of i don't believe in uh
01:51:08.200
uh the uh state killing people but we have built an amazing prison um maybe we can use alligator
01:51:15.000
alcatraz perhaps and actual alcatraz and we'll send you there forever and um that's just how it
01:51:20.360
is is we have to clean up the streets because you people are sick yeah dude i i mean that's a great
01:51:25.160
plan uh a good one for after the fallout i mean that takes place you know and by the way this this
01:51:29.960
whole alien disclosure i just want to say is we're kind of bringing it to an end here um i do think
01:51:34.760
there's a huge a huge maybe an overwhelming portion of the alien phenomenon that is actually
01:51:42.440
i had a discussion a little bit with somebody on twitter today and i was like yeah i agree with
01:51:45.800
this because they were saying this it's something we've been talking about this um these mk ultra
01:51:50.200
programs you know if if the mk ultra program is responsible for kidnapping i think it was like 10 000
01:51:56.280
orphans um and we have all this uh operation midnight climax you're abducting johns from from
01:52:03.800
brothels and you're dosing them and it's always been taking people against their will i think that
01:52:09.720
a lot of what people are experiencing is a front i'm not saying that there's not you know a real
01:52:15.720
phenomenon taking place and maybe there are real entities and things like that but this thing is really
01:52:20.840
messy and i think a lot of is it is a front for uh taking these people against their will subjecting
01:52:27.880
them to mk ultra like experimentation um i think that through the trauma and the disassociation people
01:52:37.560
are are forgetting a lot of what they're actually experiencing and that's why a lot of a lot of these
01:52:42.600
people will say i remember through regressive hypnosis or otherwise which is you know a kind of a shaky
01:52:49.640
procedure to undergo but still they'll recall military personnel they'll recall human beings involved
01:52:55.640
in these things i think that these deep underground military bases maybe they are uh leveraging
01:53:02.520
technology they're taking people and they're bringing them subterranean i think that's why
01:53:07.160
much of the uap phenomenon seems to be coming from the oceans instead of what people previously thought
01:53:11.720
you know outer space um and they're being brought to these facilities and they're being experimented on
01:53:16.120
and they're being traumatized and and i think that the the scale of these operations that people say
01:53:22.680
shut down in the 70s mk ultra are the complete opposite they're so much bigger you know even
01:53:30.120
candace owens she was talking about um charlie kirk and and and she was saying something i forgot what
01:53:35.240
it was that made me feel like whoa wait did you go through these did charlie kirk go through these
01:53:39.000
programs as a kid did you go through these programs as a kid and i'm not saying that as a condemnation to
01:53:43.240
to uh to candace owens i'm saying like people are victimized by this thing to a scale that i think
01:53:51.000
if we were ever actually exposed to if we if we knew the numbers we'd be we'd be floored i think
01:53:56.920
candace she's she's one that we haven't even talked about on the show here like with shame but it's like
01:54:01.640
another one i'm very skeptical of because like anybody that high up that i and i even if i knew
01:54:06.280
personally i still be like what exactly you know we knew a couple people personally and then we watched
01:54:09.720
some crazy things happen to him yeah but it's like man she's been saying a lot of things where
01:54:15.080
under you know some further scrutinization i'm like that turns out to be true yeah it's interesting
01:54:20.360
the reaction of her peers or the people that were her peers how they react to some of the things that
01:54:26.760
she's saying that we might be you know we might agree with or at least we'd be ready ready to hear
01:54:34.920
it either they're not ready to hear it or they know and she's breaking a rule and i
01:54:39.480
i just don't know where where to put her man yeah it's interesting i mean she's blown up i mean
01:54:44.840
she's been big but like the the charlie stuff has just been massive and i totally support her
01:54:49.960
questioning uh but we should be skeptical everyone and something something kanye said once to me that
01:54:54.440
i always think about when it comes to this conversation was that he said um if they can
01:54:58.840
see you they've been like how do you say it if they can see you being told what to say and i think
01:55:04.840
by that he meant like you know if you're put in like a huge position he was really thinking of
01:55:08.840
ben shapiro at the time that's where he was referencing but like you know it's it's like
01:55:13.560
these people are installed i'm not saying that's candace but i'm just saying it's a possibility
01:55:17.320
if people have been that big you like i think you raven mentioned like uh laurel canyon if you know
01:55:22.200
about laurel canyon you know how the cia can hijack countercultures or podcasts today clearly um you
01:55:29.720
know because that's how they try to steer narratives they can try to cyclically steer you personally and
01:55:34.040
also on a massive scale you know so it's like what is is she fulfilling something for them is she
01:55:39.640
rogue i don't know but like i would defend her the same way i defended alex jones because i think
01:55:45.880
they're trying to sandy hook candace now right with charlie and then that might lead somewhere else and
01:55:51.000
maybe that's how they destroy her just take out her voice and then make people go crazy because she's
01:55:54.600
got such a huge fan base now that if they censored her i think people will wig out and she's got a huge
01:56:00.920
like there's a lot of really angry moms and i'm with them you know like we should be angry um that
01:56:05.640
like was will be a little different than what it was when they got rid of alex was alex was big but
01:56:12.120
it was like you were easily written off when he was censored up everyone for defending oh yeah uh now
01:56:16.200
it's we're in a little different uh time than it's like this is sandy hook on steroids uh so yeah i don't
01:56:22.120
know it's weird because she's saying a lot of things i'm like how is she just getting away with this
01:56:25.480
my theory was because tim asked me the same thing on irl once and i was like this is just like this
01:56:30.920
was me spitballing but i still think about it from time to time it's what if the social media the
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tech platform guys are propping her up to make her big even though i think she has a huge audience
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organically what if they want to make her big so that they can pull the plug at some point and then
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really drive people crazy um you know and that and alex jones was the test run for that years ago
01:56:51.880
uh and didn't you know work so much with alex he's back now and alex is like you know and i've
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been with alex i like alex but he's on a he's like a different person you know like i don't agree with
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what he's saying now he's going after candace i'm like how are you we're talking about transhumanists
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and globalists that's your thing and they're in charge now but you know yeah something strange too
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about about candace and it's like i enjoy i really do enjoy what she's doing um she for no reason at all
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she's like charlie kirk might be a time traveler charlie kirk might have been astral projecting
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love it he might have been in the mk ultra program create i love it i'm like i'm following i'm like
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all right she's she's looking at something she's looking at some cool stuff and then she goes we're
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going to take a quick break from charlie kirk and we're going to talk about nimrod and we're going
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to start referencing rob skeeba's work and i was like holy shit okay i'm listening dude we're talking
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about the nephilim why i know why why why right now and at the same time which is crazy so follow me guys
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this is a convoluted timeline let's go the whole blurry creatures thing happened they follow me
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timothy alberino attacks us for no reason we get a debate oh shit timothy he's debating us he has a
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narrative to protect okay he embarrasses himself he loses or whatever however you want to view that um
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right before he did like started with us and and the whole blurry guy started looking at this to
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protect this narrative he actually records an interview with michael knowles right about the
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nephilim i mean obviously this is what he talks about but it's oh it's it's takes a while to air
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too right yeah well that that's the part that really makes me like be confused or start to doubt what i
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would say what's going on let's incorporate the idea that he knew when it would be released he knew when
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it would be released and asked like i guess he's doing some pr with us he wanted to bury us so that way
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he could look good and then spin this and it didn't it just didn't work out for him that way right
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because they're doing age of disclosure he's buddies with elizondo it seems like the time is
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coming he knows his thing's gonna release it's pr time he records this interview january 7th it's
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released last week it's released on the same day the same week that uh candace is now doing her nimrod
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deep dive deep dive and a week before so it decides to do i don't know what the fuck's going on anymore
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but we have a daily wire employee that is doing this and bringing this back into the zeitgeist right
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around the same time here right before you know disclosure aliens all the stuff that we're talking
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about yeah and candace is also touching on it like just a couple of days before but like it's
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pre-recorded and then i'm just like i'm watching and i'm very confused about why this is happening now
01:59:20.840
well hold on i want to say because this before we pass the ball to shane i just want to say the
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way that i think information agents work these days is that it's no longer done there are a few of them
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who are like paid and bought but mostly it's the idea itself if you can lay out a compelling enough
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idea and then allow people to come to it naturally over time the loud influential ones are going to
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rise to the top and i think what you do from there is you control the gate the gates the algorithm you
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pump it or you suppress it and you suppress it until it's ready to be pumped and so with candace it's
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like she she might not have any not a nefarious bone in her body not the timing is like why
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why did you do i think they got really good at controlling the flow of information they control
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really well when information that's compelling that's packaged the right way you got a content
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creator that made a great clip when it reaches you so the daily wire stuff which is is premeditated
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it's pre-recorded and released on a certain date makes it as a matter of fact it was released late
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it was supposed to be released like a week or two before that something happened i don't know and it's
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just like what the fuck dude well they're clearly gatekeepers i mean they're like some of the worst
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people i've met i mean i'm knolls i i i liked knolls when i met him and it was pleasant enough but uh
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like germany boring and ben shapiro are two of the worst people i've ever met and uh you know they
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blacklisted me immediately from the kanye story um but i've been to their studios because i've just
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you know trespassed behind tim when he was invited um and they're just they're just horrible people
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and gatekeepers and uh they don't like they have very thin skin and they're hollywood rejects but they
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want to control the narrative and they definitely didn't like that uh you know i had a different take
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on kanye when shapiro was saying kanye should be like institutionalized um so when it comes to this
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stuff like why is this all happening now one of the things i've been thinking about is like and we
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talked about a little bit earlier the dissident christian is like the last real obstacle in the
02:01:33.400
people who want to take over and make a dominant narrative with the sit with their simulation over
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reality and so we see like you know teal and bongino vance and vivek heavily fund rumble which
02:01:47.720
became like the dissident version for youtube and i like rumble you know i use it um but i'm always
02:01:54.280
like why you know and my my thing was like i think they they know they have to find a way to ingratiate
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themselves into the dissident and christian community that really said no to the major things like
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lockdowns um like a lot of things that they they build in silicon valley and if they can get them on
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their side which is why someone like the cloud guy or or teal saying they're both christian which
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i think is fake although i don't know their hearts but i'm pretty sure they're fake um it's their way
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of ingratiating themselves into this community so then we can be like oh yeah give them carte blanche
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they can just do whatever because they're on our side which you got to be really careful with that
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you know because i think they have bad theology and they have bad intentions and they're anti-christian
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so i've been seeing that happen so much you know after covid happened after lockdowns happened when
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everyone kind of banded together and said we got to defeat this narrative now it's like um now they're
02:02:49.560
trying to do something new and you saw a lot of this start to fall apart when like october 7th happened
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and now all of a sudden the people who are anti-establishment were super pro-establishment
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and like even like a good example of that would be someone like will chamberlain who we've interacted with on
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uh oh yeah free brohemian grove who you know he pretends to be like he's like i don't say he
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pretends to be dissident but he's like yeah i'm i'm against this and that and i'm i'm right wing
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but at the end of the day you're just an establishment shill and you're a gatekeeper and you know we're not
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allowed to say certain things but it's okay for him to joke about killing someone like literally the
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day after we were joking about him being gay whatever it is he was mad at us for saying you know and then
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i invited him to prohibit me in grove he didn't take me up on that offer so i think a lot of people
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uh are gatekeepers so like the right and the independent media space is just as infected with
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gatekeepers and liars as the corporate media space that i used to write for i thought i would
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be a part of that i was like i'm gonna write for the atlantic and that and clearly you know didn't last
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very long because it's they're terrible people uh not all of them but i'd say 99 and then i get into
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independent media space and there's freedom and i get to do a lot of great stories but i start to
02:04:01.480
notice like you know i remember being told by one publication in like 2024 we'd love to have you
02:04:07.080
write for us but like you just can't criticize trump and at that point i was like i'm probably going to
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vote for him uh but i really don't like vance and i have a lot of things to say about ai and they're
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like yeah we just we can't allow that i'm like man so you're just as bad you're just as propagandists
02:04:22.600
as much a propagandist as as the left so it's a human nature issue and now they're forming this
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narrative of like the things we've been talking about where they're like mainstreaming conspiracy
02:04:34.040
which has been happening for the past two years i think where you know butler happening was a massive
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like we're gonna like take away the taboo from everything you thought about jfk we're gonna make
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you watch it now and then we're gonna burn the guy's body you know we won't even mk ultra we won't
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even assassinate him then and mk ultra the next guy who kills him uh but we're just going to make
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you question everything and then charlie kirk and it's like they've been slowly um making it
02:05:01.000
everyone a conspiracy theorist and i think that is on purpose which is why i think we should be
02:05:04.520
skeptical of why they're mainstreaming all these things we've been talking about is it real you
02:05:08.440
know nick hinton he's someone i follow on twitter i don't know anything about him but he says things
02:05:12.760
that i think are interesting and just the other day he tweeted that like his favorite theory is that uh
02:05:18.040
ai is now in charge of the epstein files release and that it's actually putting out all these
02:05:23.080
things and basically blackmailing the elite because it's going to take over the government
02:05:27.480
i'm like you know what honestly at this point anything's possible that the thing that the tech
02:05:31.560
elite created who want to be in charge are now actually becoming the thing the slave to the thing
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that they created which is what jacques l yule wrote all about in the technological society which is a
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great book um it inspired one of my favorite writers uh you might know him as the unabomber
02:05:47.320
ted kaczynski his manifesto was heavily influenced by uh jacques l yule who was a christian anarchist
02:05:53.720
from france i know he's french but give him a break uh it seems that he was correct about a lot of
02:05:58.440
things yeah he was correct about a lot of things um so yeah i think i think that's what's going on you
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know they try to seed ideas into these places that have major platforms like the daily wire or fox or
02:06:12.520
nbc whatever or or your church you know like there's a whole campaign now with israel and different
02:06:18.040
churches to be like you know pro israel stuff and like they're changing the whole concept of you know
02:06:22.840
what israel like means and the state of israel and uh that's dangerous theology too so it's it's a
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constant war on on reality and your perception of it and i think the last people on the front lines
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of actual reality objective reality those who actually believe in christ who have faith in god and
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believe in a natural organic world that um can exist outside of the simulation that they've been
02:06:47.800
putting on top of us and uh so they have to get on your side which is why people like teal the cloud
02:06:54.120
guy you know peter palmer lucky they do things to uh make you want to like them whether it's putting
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on a mullet or you know going on rogan or saying something based saying some dude saying based like
02:07:06.920
such a dumb word or um or or saying starting to talk about the nephilim in ways that are like all
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right i dig that i do believe in this but why are you saying this now and then i just can't help but
02:07:20.200
think about how trump phrases his disclosure tweet about well because the overwhelming response like
02:07:25.560
so is this just a joke or like how what is true here how much of this is accurate why are we going
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to believe you like i don't believe anything you tell me bo but if you tell me about aliens i'm all
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of a sudden right on board with everything you say because it's what i want to hear because they know
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that they can control you through fear and confirmation bias it reminds me of when they uh voted uh
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governor phil murphy i think his name is uh in new jersey and it was because he was just an advocate
02:07:54.520
for legalized marijuana oh it's just the one thing it's just like that one thing that like you know
02:07:59.000
hello fellow pot smokers like it's like that kind of shit but hit the blurry boys with that meme too
02:08:03.800
yeah yeah i saw that that was great but i want to bring it in for landing but i just want to like
02:08:07.560
put a little like pin drop on that end there it's something that we talked about before and it's how we
02:08:12.600
opened up this podcast um you're talking to gary the numbers guy like i don't know what i'm going
02:08:18.440
to say to this guy i don't really know anything about him coming in flying blind i got my notepad
02:08:22.440
i'll do a little preparation but i don't know and it's the the guidance of the holy spirit which is
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something yeah dude the church that we go to is like very big on the holy spirit the emphasis of
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the holy spirit because that's what jesus left us here and that's really in today's day and age
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that's all that we have like i can't trust anything that i see or hear it's insane and
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actually it's the it's the impotence that that's the correct word that made alberino block me finally
02:08:50.440
after the exchanges because we were getting real disrespectful with him but like i said something
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like uh to someone commenting i said uh this is a rational man he's not going to understand these
02:09:01.560
things that we're talking about we're talking about like the spiritual nature of things and he goes
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how should i act irrational perhaps being flipping with me and i go you should ask to be guided by
02:09:10.920
the holy spirit rather than leaning on your own understanding that's it and after that he found
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some reason to fucking pull the parachute and get out of there but that's it you made him squirm well
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yeah we're gonna because we're gonna see a lot of shit and you're gonna hear a lot of fancy
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language you're gonna see a lot of newspapers and even videos and pictures you might see some stuff
02:09:28.440
in real life i don't even know if this stuff is real anymore well that's what shane is talking about
02:09:33.160
and and dude i'm so glad this is the way we're gonna end it because this is really the message
02:09:36.760
that i want people to i wonder if you'd agree with this shane we've been doing this for a long time
02:09:40.920
we the three of us here might be uh you could call us career conspiracy theorists and for the first time
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in my life i'm recognizing that the floodgates is open in such a way that top is right the only thing
02:09:53.800
we're going to have is discernment that's gifted to us through the holy spirit leaning on our own
02:10:00.600
understanding is going to lead to catastrophe i mean catastrophe there's no other way to put it
02:10:07.880
um we're going to be inundated with so much information that's going to flesh out that overlay
02:10:15.240
that you're talking about this this false reality that they've laid over god's reality and i think at some
02:10:21.640
point maybe historically you could wrestle with it and you can grapple with it you could reveal the
02:10:27.800
truth but it's going to get so big that you're going to have no other choice but to stop grappling
02:10:35.560
with it and lean entirely on the lord yep that's i mean there's like a meme out there about like i
02:10:41.320
went down every rabbit hole and they all just wind up at jesus you know because it's it's the only anchor
02:10:46.360
in this chaotic reality is christ you know and it's for something it's it's as ancient as it is
02:10:54.280
uh it's the it's the only it's it's a modern blueprint through all of the human suffering we
02:11:00.200
go through in this crazy place um you know every answer is in there so something a friend told me
02:11:05.480
about it and we were talking about the bible once he was like his dad told him like every answer you
02:11:08.760
ever need is in the bible and you know maybe you've read it already and then you have an experience you
02:11:13.640
go back you read the same thing again you're like man that is exactly what i needed to hear is exactly
02:11:17.800
right because it all goes back to human nature it understands human nature it understands that we're
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all flawed and sinners and uh you know this is the blueprint to eternal life and that is the thing we
02:11:26.600
should be focusing on and trying to help people save souls you know and and glorify god um but also
02:11:33.320
like how to try to defeat evil as best we can and then lay this foundation of um you know godliness in
02:11:39.240
our children because they're going to inherit their own version of the depraved world that
02:11:43.880
we inherited right but it'll just be a little different because it keeps tweaking itself every
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now and every like generation so prepare them with that but if you prepare them with that with the
02:11:51.240
foundation of the lord's word you know they're way way better off than kidding that's why that's why
02:11:56.200
the people in charge don't want you to have that foundation because they know uh it's harder to
02:12:02.360
manipulate you into their psychotic realm uh and buying everything and it's harder to shackle
02:12:08.360
you to the material world if you're not um worried about the treasures in the material world you're
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worried about the treasures in you know the afterlife in the eternal world in heaven amen
02:12:17.640
pilgrims and strangers yeah a smart man once said yeah well we should be in this world but uh
02:12:23.480
shane we've we've kept you for way too long um can you tell the people again uh where they can find
02:12:30.440
you by more your work and just follow you in general man yeah well thank you for having me this is a
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pleasure i hope to get down there and have some coffee in that shop and hang out yeah coffee's on
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us we'll do that i'm looking forward to it and uh you can find me online everywhere like instagram
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twitter at shane cashman uh my books are at shane cashman.com and uh the show is inverted world live
02:12:51.960
uh that's on youtube and rumble uh from monday through thursday at 10 o'clock at night excellent
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guys go follow him go follow shane what the hell are you doing and until next time
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don't forget to obey submit and comply we'll see you later
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the end is written in the book in the pages they foreseen