Nephilim Death Squad - July 18, 2026


NDS on Dark Waters w⧸ James Williams


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In this episode of Dark Waters with James Williams, Dark Waters is joined by David and Andrew Tate of the "Top Lobster" podcast to talk about their new movie "The King of Kashmir" directed by Giuseppe Tonatore and starring Leonardo DiCaprio.

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00:00:00.000 An inspirational portrait of a farmer's son who rises from humble beginnings to build a luxury fashion empire.
00:00:06.420 Brunello, the gracious visionary, traces Brunello Cuccinelli's life journey.
00:00:11.700 His commitment to craftsmanship, ethical values, and humanistic philosophy.
00:00:16.020 Directed by Academy Award winner Giuseppe Tonatore, the film blends documentary and fiction.
00:00:21.480 An intimate look at the Italian entrepreneur known as the King of Kashmir.
00:00:25.400 See Brunello, the gracious visionary, in select theaters July 24th.
00:00:30.000 put on the mountain of influence to bring your sons and daughters into the knowledge of uh our
00:00:35.520 lord and savior jesus christ and we ask that you be glorified in this podcast and in this interview
00:00:41.440 lord your word says we will open our mouth and you will put words in them so i just want to make
00:00:45.280 sure that you understand lord that that we we know things but we know nothing compared to you
00:00:50.400 and i want to offer you the opportunity to join us and to disclose what you want to disclose
00:00:54.880 lord i ask that you give us access to the deep recesses of our minds and that we pull out
00:00:58.800 information that not only will teach people lessons but will captivate them and lord we
00:01:04.460 bind now in the name of jesus christ the prince of the powers of the air and decree and declare
00:01:08.940 that you shall not interfere with this podcast or this recording in any way shape or form
00:01:12.440 and we invite the prince of peace into this and lord the spirits that are contending against my
00:01:19.800 brothers to not allow them to ascend the mountain of influence as a king and priest of the order
00:01:25.280 Melchizedek and one you have assigned to the Mount of Influence. I decree and declare they all fall
00:01:29.400 down now in the name of Jesus Christ. I decree and declare the circumstances surrounding them
00:01:34.000 that would slow them down. Every circumstance, the head is cut off of it and the legs are cut
00:01:38.400 off of it now in the name of Jesus Christ. Lord, I ask that you be exalted through their efforts
00:01:43.080 and that you bring souls into the kingdom, that these people that they listen to, Lord,
00:01:48.420 that they be educated and turned into watchmen so that their family members and their friends
00:01:52.400 and the people surrounding them that they can come into the kingdom and not be deceived your
00:01:57.440 word says be not ignorant of the devices of the devil least satan get advantage of you lord you're
00:02:01.940 raising up men to teach people not to be ignorant of very specific devices and i thank you lord and
00:02:06.960 we decree and declare victory in the name of jesus christ and say amen amen powerful that was a
00:02:11.780 banger man well nah bro i don't have interviews for me bro like when west was like hey james you
00:02:18.880 supposed to be interviewing them i was like okay he was like what's wrong i said no i mean you know
00:02:23.040 we don't wes will tell you we don't pick who we interview he'll be sitting there and sitting at
00:02:27.940 his computer and something will pop up and god will say hey interview those guys or james needs
00:02:32.140 to go over there and then i'll just go so it nobody encounters me unless god wants them to
00:02:37.200 encounter me so i just whatever it is i love that i love that's how we moved on that is how we move
00:02:41.400 yeah let's we tell a little bit about how like we even got here what we're even doing yeah yeah yeah
00:02:45.740 Well, I mean, you know, wherever it goes, it goes.
00:02:48.160 Yeah.
00:02:49.240 I'm excited.
00:02:49.960 Oh, it's about to go watch this.
00:02:51.840 Let's get it started.
00:02:53.680 Record to this computer.
00:02:54.400 This meeting is being recorded.
00:02:56.160 What's up, ladies and gentlemen?
00:02:57.560 It's your boy, the one and only James Williams, Dark Waters, and I'm back.
00:03:01.060 And I got another interview with you guys, and I'm excited.
00:03:03.480 I'm going to tell you why I'm excited.
00:03:04.620 Because, you know, I do a lot of individual videos where I be talking about strange and weird and freaky stuff that be going on.
00:03:10.540 But you got to kind of be a little cuckoo for Jesus to really talk about these things in the public side because you got to deal with all the people saying bad stuff about you and all the rest of this.
00:03:19.500 So when I find some people who are excited, look at this, look at the camera.
00:03:22.700 When I find people excited are talking about the same thing I'm talking about, then I just I'm happy to have the conversation.
00:03:28.620 So right now I want to introduce you guys.
00:03:30.560 I have the Nephilim Def Squad podcast on with me.
00:03:33.560 I have David and I have Top Lobster. 0.98
00:03:35.720 Now, don't worry about the Top G, Andrew Tate, because he's a top loser. 0.74
00:03:39.200 They got a video going viral with him right now in a casino with a headless man. 0.95
00:03:42.860 Don't believe me?
00:03:43.300 Go look it up on Twitter.
00:03:44.220 Oh, that's where he's wearing, like, the silk shirt, like, see-through silk shirt.
00:03:47.200 Yeah, the silk shirt.
00:03:47.760 Yeah, you saw it?
00:03:48.360 Moving on a little strange.
00:03:49.980 Clearly, the top G right now is running around with a bunch of demons.
00:03:53.920 Something going on with the top G.
00:03:55.480 Or maybe he just deleted the head to go viral.
00:03:57.480 He's smart enough to do that.
00:03:58.680 But anyway, gentlemen, let's get the ball rolling.
00:04:01.380 Tell everybody about your journey into not only YouTube, but more importantly,
00:04:05.580 your journey into the understanding of you know that that there's some weird freaky crazy stuff
00:04:11.300 going on and we need to talk about how did you get to the point where you decided hey i'm gonna
00:04:14.820 turn on the microphone and i'm gonna talk about this so make it funny it's uh it's a long story
00:04:19.920 but i'll i'll give you the uh the short of it i was personally born into a family that i believe
00:04:25.200 was um riddled with generational iniquity and so my grandmother was a alien abductee victim since
00:04:31.280 childhood and i don't know if it started with her but she dealt with these things in uh the
00:04:37.460 incorrect way she she gravitated towards the new age and and you know sort of clairvoyant uh
00:04:42.100 practices and i guess you could call it probably wiccan and um and the the fruits are evident in
00:04:48.240 the generations that follow uh my aunt her her daughter's uh you know schizophrenic which i do
00:04:54.400 believe is a spiritual ailment and um and there are all these instances in my lineage of people
00:05:01.960 having these strange experiences myself included um you know kind of the run-of-the-mill things
00:05:07.080 shadow people sleep paralysis eventually these things lead to a much bigger event where i i
00:05:14.100 encountered a demon and i honestly kept my mouth shut about it because it was so horrifying and
00:05:19.720 hard to deal with until my wife and my son saw it as well. And I had to have some sort of recourse
00:05:24.720 and maybe we'll get into that. But all of these events in my life, they lead me to, you know,
00:05:31.220 thank God for the internet. Early 2005, 2006, I start looking up the things that my family's
00:05:37.840 experiencing, the things that I'm experiencing. And there's no shortage of other people having
00:05:43.060 these experiences. And that just kicks the door open from supernatural phenomenon to conspiracy,
00:05:48.600 Right. What does it all mean? Why are these things happening? Are these things demonic?
00:05:53.820 And what that ends up leading to is all of the prevalence of the symbolism inside Hollywood and the music industry.
00:06:00.460 And, you know, as far as demonic sigils and symbolism, it becomes very clear that everything is is satanic, you know, in the major industries.
00:06:11.040 And that I mean, that's a lifelong thing now. I'm 36 years old. I started this probably 15, 16 years old.
00:06:18.280 So all the meaningful years of my life have been spent looking into this phenomenon, and it wasn't until maybe 32 or 33 that I started to make content about it because part of the reason was I still wasn't sure.
00:06:35.660 I wasn't sure about the nature of this thing that I was looking at, and I never deigned to be a teacher.
00:06:41.220 I still don't. But eventually I crossed this sort of this line in the sand where I made a decision
00:06:49.380 to start pursuing Christ. And I think that I was always meant to do a podcast, but it was about
00:06:56.760 that. And thank God it didn't happen any sooner. Thank God that God didn't put it on my heart to
00:07:01.820 start making shows about this topic because I would have flubbed it. I didn't know what I was
00:07:06.540 dealing with. It's funny, as we do like more Bible studies and stuff, you see a lot of people try to
00:07:10.160 push god's timeline like moses goes and kills a guy in egypt and god was like oh 40 years you
00:07:15.140 know like you still got some time yeah or was it was it 30 years before it's like all right now we
00:07:18.720 can start moving so like you said before we we're very similar in the same way where we don't really
00:07:24.920 do anything unless god god like really pushes it yeah and and we're trying our best to understand
00:07:31.540 what that sounds like because it's a still small voice so like we're a lot of times i'm sitting
00:07:35.940 still until we're ready to just bounce and when we bounce we move we really do yeah shake some
00:07:40.660 stuff i'll tell you what though if you knew us personally you would say uh there's no way that
00:07:45.420 whatever we've done here with nephilim death squad is even possible without god because uh
00:07:50.740 you know we have our skill sets we're sharp in this department we're we're not in others
00:07:55.260 and uh this thing moves because god wants it to move an inspirational portrait of a farmer's son
00:08:01.720 who rises from humble beginnings
00:08:03.100 to build a luxury fashion empire.
00:08:05.460 Brunello, the gracious visionary,
00:08:07.820 traces Brunello Cuccinelli's life journey,
00:08:10.720 his commitment to craftsmanship,
00:08:12.400 ethical values, and humanistic philosophy.
00:08:15.040 Directed by Academy Award winner Giuseppe Tonatore,
00:08:17.960 the film blends documentary and fiction,
00:08:20.520 an intimate look at the Italian entrepreneur
00:08:22.480 known as the King of Cashmere.
00:08:24.460 See Brunello, the gracious visionary,
00:08:27.020 in select theaters July 24th.
00:08:29.400 I'll tell you what,
00:08:30.400 you guys are going to be um that's wild you guys are going to ascend to a height on a mountain that
00:08:37.340 people are going to dream about you really are you are you're going to so there's there's training
00:08:43.180 that you go through in a secret place it's like this phase where you're not getting the views
00:08:47.840 where you're kind of there it you're in secret and in secret is where you get made like you'll
00:08:52.620 be hitting you'll be doing it but you're like man i'm not getting attraction i'm not blowing up
00:08:56.360 is because you're in secret and it's in that secret place that god makes you so when you get
00:09:01.100 to the highest heights you don't embarrass him so what you're going through is a secret place
00:09:04.780 and so as you're in that secret place enjoy the secret place because there's training that come
00:09:09.440 through the secret place you're there then you get a little bit of prominence then you get attacked
00:09:13.720 and then the lord checks your heart to see okay are you going to come back to me and talk to me
00:09:17.900 about people attacking you are you going to argue with people who are attacking you do you know you
00:09:20.900 on a mission for me or not and who you're going to listen to so you guys are just in a secret
00:09:25.240 place it's a great thing but you guys are going to be phenomenal even as you're talking the lord
00:09:28.660 just said no they're going to be big james and i'm like well that's awesome that's great i you know
00:09:33.040 i love that though james that idea of going back you know getting attacked and then going back and
00:09:37.200 checking with god because we have we've taken go ahead we're going through that iteration again
00:09:41.240 right now where you just said uh as a matter of fact of uh what pastor uh mark preached i knew
00:09:46.960 you heard that yeah i knew you heard that he was talking to you i went i went all right so
00:09:51.880 So about a year ago, right behind me is a poster that we did.
00:09:56.340 Hold on.
00:09:57.280 It's a poster that we did for Bohemian Grove.
00:09:59.300 Bohemian Grove, four now we're doing?
00:10:01.420 Now we're going number four, yeah.
00:10:02.400 Yeah, so this was three.
00:10:04.020 And that show took a lot out of us.
00:10:06.920 And it came with a ton of spiritual attack.
00:10:09.540 We lost friendships.
00:10:10.880 We lost business partners doing this.
00:10:12.360 We lost a venue.
00:10:13.840 We lost a theater.
00:10:15.020 We got kicked out of a town for hosting somebody.
00:10:17.780 They wrote articles about us and everything.
00:10:19.340 Yeah, because we hosted Owen Benjamin.
00:10:21.880 And we had Sam Tripoli, Shane Cashman, Jake Shields.
00:10:25.480 I mean, tons of people were here.
00:10:27.440 But because we deigned to invite Owen Benjamin, they were like, it's an absolute no-go.
00:10:34.040 It doesn't matter how much money.
00:10:35.020 It doesn't matter what.
00:10:35.660 There's no negotiation.
00:10:36.660 So we were kicked out of a theater, kicked out of a town, lost friendships because I wouldn't negotiate.
00:10:43.540 I don't negotiate with terrorists.
00:10:45.080 I'm not going to negotiate with the devil.
00:10:46.700 And this was an ideological attack.
00:10:48.360 Very clear.
00:10:48.980 it was a it was a very clear like distinction here like what are you going to do do you want
00:10:54.040 to keep this uh worldly thing and do this thing in this theater or do you want to do it in this
00:10:58.300 moose lodge or we didn't even have a place we didn't have a place we just lost the but if you
00:11:02.500 want to do it there you're going to sell out you're going to sell out all of your principles
00:11:05.600 everything that you've been saying up until now yeah that was the testing ground are you going to
00:11:09.360 do this and to me it was like it was easy it was no question it was like covid where they're like
00:11:14.140 you're going to put that in your arm and that was the easy spot i say no right away how many times
00:11:18.320 can you say no to the system before it starts to get you know like really in your face but uh
00:11:23.460 one of the friendships that we lost actually again so we're doing brohemian grove again next
00:11:27.600 month yep it's coming up next month we have owen benjamin coming back he's coming back just to hang
00:11:31.500 out and the same person kind of rears his ugly head the same relationship that falls apart and
00:11:37.100 i think what became clear is like so we had an interaction with this person and there was this
00:11:41.900 opportunity to to reconcile it seemed right turned out uh homeboy's heart is still hardened
00:11:47.100 very hard and now they're publicly saying things and and they're not true it's argumentative the
00:11:51.940 arrows are coming again and and you know both top and i can feel it it's this um this pull into the
00:11:59.860 argument this pull into the fight oh it's strong i mean i i messaged our our video editor on monday
00:12:06.020 we're gonna make a clip because i'm gonna cut this guy down at the legs yeah so be ready and
00:12:10.900 he just goes okay boss and then we went to church and i'm sitting next to him and the pastor is
00:12:16.740 talking about forgiveness and what forgiveness actually is and this this letting go of this
00:12:21.400 thing that is corrosive and acidic and it eats you from the inside and and you know to actually
00:12:26.800 let it be because vengeance is in ours it's for the lord we're not avengers was the analogy that
00:12:33.880 he was using and i'm sitting there because i saw that message come into our video editor
00:12:37.980 you know we're gonna we're gonna get him up we're gonna chop him up and then i'm i'm listening and
00:12:43.940 i'm like he's talking to him he's talking to him and uh they did an altar call i'm like i'm not
00:12:47.660 doing all i don't do the whole show thing raise your hand like no that's not for me but i'm
00:12:51.680 listening yeah i did tell him after oh did you yeah i went to him and i said hey you know i didn't
00:12:55.860 come up but i know when they're in their their study and they're making these things they're
00:13:00.360 like i don't know why god told me to say this today for whatever because it is like a bit of a
00:13:05.360 it's a general message in a way sure but but to deliver that i mean on friday or saturday i told
00:13:11.440 this to our editor yeah on sunday god was like calm down relax yeah yeah relax and it's one of
00:13:17.740 those things too it's like over and over again in my life i i've i've you hear the the call of god
00:13:22.520 and the great thing about is you could always tell him no yeah you can like there's a very strong
00:13:27.180 uh component of free will which is like how how i even got here i told him no yeah i got i got
00:13:33.280 prophesied on at one point 10 15 years ago i had one foot out of the church because of whatever was
00:13:38.900 going on there and somebody prophesied over me they said you're gonna be talking to a million
00:13:42.600 people one day and i was like shut up i'm not i you have no clue i'm gone and i said no no no no
00:13:49.900 no but it doesn't really matter because there's a way of like drawing you back in but yeah again 0.95
00:13:54.200 i've gotten to the point in my life where i'm like i'm not i'm dumb but i'm not dumb enough
00:13:59.200 to continue to say no i was like all right that was very clear i heard you fine you know what i
00:14:03.260 mean i don't want to i still want to make that video but like okay i hear you fine fine but i
00:14:11.020 gotta let that go so like that's where we're at with this whole thing i'll tell you something
00:14:15.080 that you guys should know so it's when we're obedient to the lord or when we follow the lord's
00:14:21.820 commands then what it allows is for all obedience to be filled and then for punishment to go against
00:14:27.160 those who come against us so the test for you is and i bro and i tell you i've been through these
00:14:31.800 test. Mine has been very public. People who watch me
00:14:33.960 are like, damn, I can't believe you just sat through that. 0.98
00:14:36.020 What ends up happening is, the Lord 0.99
00:14:37.900 is more concerned about you and your heart than your
00:14:39.900 podcast, than your emotions, than your feelings.
00:14:41.960 And if you can maintain the right heart
00:14:43.760 posture, he'll come in and that test
00:14:45.860 will come and he'll say, okay, let me look at his heart.
00:14:47.780 And so he looks at your heart and he says, okay, there's some bitterness
00:14:49.900 and he's going to pull that bitterness out. There's
00:14:51.860 an arrow of betrayal. There's this.
00:14:54.300 He's going to pull all these arrows out. He
00:14:55.840 says, okay, now you keep your heart in the right condition
00:14:57.760 and you're fine. Then he's going to go over to
00:14:59.800 the other person he's gonna say huh now you you over here tripping hard so let me give you this
00:15:05.160 circumstance this circumstance this circumstance this circumstance this circumstance so i can purge
00:15:09.760 your heart of everything that's there so when we're obedient to him he punishes the individual
00:15:14.320 that does what they need to do the longer you're in bitterness the longer you're not forgiving
00:15:18.220 the only thing you do is delay their punishment that's why when people offend me i'd be like hey
00:15:22.740 i forgive you bro don't worry about it it's cool they'd be like what i forgive you because i know
00:15:27.420 you about to get your behind whoop i know because i've been through the same thing yeah and so you
00:15:31.240 just let it go and the way that what will happen is you'll get these thoughts that come in and he'll
00:15:36.840 be like i can't believe that you know he playing with me like this he said this he said that da da
00:15:41.120 da da and that's the spirit of offense coming in and once that spirit gets in then you get tangled
00:15:45.920 up and it's real simply lord you know what help him and change me lord i just need you to help
00:15:51.740 that individual and change me and it happens to me all the time you know on youtube i have
00:15:55.200 opportunities to get offended help him change me and i maintain that posture because what happens is
00:16:00.160 i'm gonna change because i can't change that individual and the lord's gonna help him that
00:16:03.960 help don't always look like what everybody think it looks like many times that help seems like
00:16:08.620 a challenge that comes against that person to where they gotta change you know what i'm saying
00:16:12.780 but yeah so you guys are gonna go high high high on the mountain of influence so we talked about
00:16:17.480 disclosure day ladies and gentlemen i'm sorry we just went we went full prophetic angle on you guys
00:16:22.960 stop messing up camera we went full prophetic angle on you guys but i want to talk to you guys
00:16:27.460 so you guys went to go see disclosure day i refuse to give this this jack but any of my money what
00:16:32.180 are your thoughts on the movie well first off i didn't see disclosure day and he uh allegedly
00:16:37.020 illegally pirated my cousin okay you didn't give me his money no no i'm not gonna pay him for that
00:16:44.300 like we were actually planning to go see it in theaters yeah just to like review it and then uh
00:16:49.380 I guess it just happened where we were like, so what?
00:16:51.860 Yeah, so what ended up happening was leading up to it.
00:16:54.560 It got a bunch of bad reviews.
00:16:55.620 People said it was slop and it was a little boring.
00:16:57.300 And so I said, all right, we'll wait for it to come out.
00:16:59.160 But this disclosure thing is something that I feel as though it's part of what God is preparing us for on this show,
00:17:07.680 especially because it's one of the longest things that we've talked about.
00:17:10.880 And to kind of frame that for the audience, I don't believe that aliens are, you know, space brothers from a galaxy far, far away and a highly advanced technological civilization.
00:17:23.140 I think that these are a rebranding of spiritual entities and a rebranding of the same concept that creates a Nephilim.
00:17:32.580 So for the audience, I'm sure they're very familiar with it, but the idea of the Nephilim being the sons of God coming into the daughters of man and producing offspring, they're effectively hybrids.
00:17:43.720 And I think that at the heart of the alien phenomenon is that hybridization program.
00:17:50.860 And I'm not saying that that is definitively true.
00:17:53.460 It's just where my research leads me.
00:17:55.160 The reason that I say it may not be definitively true is because we recently had Matt Gaetz and a bunch of other people come out and talk about, you know, the hybridization program taking place deep underground between aliens and humans.
00:18:07.560 So whenever some big talking head comes along and says it, I'm now forced to check my ideas and kind of.
00:18:14.040 Actually, at the inception of our podcast, Nephilim Death Squad, I think maybe two months after we had the Nephilim in Miami, the event happened.
00:18:24.300 So it was like great timing for the branding.
00:18:26.340 And then right after that, Tucker Carlson comes out with like Roseanne Barr and they're talking about the Nephilim.
00:18:30.720 And me and David are like, hold on a second, wait a second, pump the brakes.
00:18:33.800 Why are you talking about it right now?
00:18:35.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:36.240 So it really makes us suspicious.
00:18:37.480 Like, are we over the target or maybe we're supposed to be headed this way as a people?
00:18:42.220 and people are doing soft disclosure in different directions so yeah that's what disclosure day is
00:18:46.880 it's a admission of the truth but the direction that they want to point you in is incorrect yes
00:18:53.180 yeah yeah and that's what i'm paying attention to and it was it was really fun to watch it like if
00:18:56.840 i would watch it with david it's more like it would have been us dissecting it but i was watching it
00:19:00.720 with my normie cousins so i'm able to see and like gauge their response to certain things and then
00:19:07.040 ask them leading questions and see what they're yeah where they're at with it but uh it was i'd
00:19:12.560 say it was solid on the alien phenomenon it was well researched they actually recreated a lot of
00:19:17.560 the uh alien tapes that you know have claimed to been hoax okay things like that so they they did
00:19:23.420 a really fun job with that and i was like okay they're nailing the disclosure nuts and bolt
00:19:28.920 aspect of it and and even the nhi aspect like they're they're right on it and it'll probably
00:19:33.580 look a lot like if we get disclosure it'll look a lot like this movie it's in the backdrop of a
00:19:39.160 movie um america is in defcon 2 so we're going through some sort of war and we're at risk which
00:19:45.280 is what the government would do when something like this is going to happen they're going to
00:19:48.640 create a maybe a distract like a a war with iran or something like that or a world war 3 so we're
00:19:53.580 right there something for us to be saved from right oftentimes that's the the narrative it
00:20:00.040 seems like they're going to go with is this idea that we may be on the precipice of nuclear war 0.97
00:20:04.020 which if you're into the alien phenomenon and you're observing all the uaps and ufos and 0.93
00:20:10.220 you know their comings and goings over the last few decades they have uh an interest in nuclear
00:20:16.160 facilities or you know weapons of war shutting them down i believe there's famous instances
00:20:20.800 of a craft um you know being unable to be intercepted and then shooting a laser and
00:20:26.980 disarming so it's by the way go ahead right from the jump 1947 the year 1947 that's in the film
00:20:34.420 oh in the in the very beginning and then uh in the middle at the end it continues to pop up so
00:20:39.400 i'm like okay it's well researched at the very least and uh spielberg did his homework so well
00:20:44.020 good for him yeah good spielberg good for spielberg but i do think they're gonna prop themselves up
00:20:49.000 as a savior figure right um and in fact something that is antichrist something that's in place of
00:20:54.840 Christ, I think they're going to stay very adjacent to the biblical narrative, but they're
00:21:01.680 going to deviate on really important aspects that are going to lead you to false conclusions about
00:21:06.280 the nature of these things, which is really my concern. I mean, right now, as we look at it on
00:21:11.280 the show, and everybody can see this in regards to disclosure, it's about reverse-engineered
00:21:16.400 technology. It's about zero-point energy, and I don't care about any of that. I care about the
00:21:22.080 nature of the entities that is my main concern i believe everything can be chopped up into two
00:21:28.160 groups it's either um in the grace of god and and moving for god's will in the kingdom of god
00:21:34.300 or it's demonic and i use demonic as a blanket term i mean against god against the will of god
00:21:39.400 against humanity deceptive in nature and that's the that's the deception of this film that we're
00:21:45.080 we're being presented two sides which is a government that does not want to disclose
00:21:50.100 demonic and then the disclosure side that wants to present us aliens but in a certain light yeah
00:21:56.820 demonic demonic yeah yeah demonic and demonic you're giving false choices absolutely yes or
00:22:02.620 yes right to the audience and the audience goes oh well i guess you know they have nowhere to put
00:22:07.120 this at all and when it's presented to them in real life eventually they're going to think back
00:22:11.820 to disclosure day and that's what it's programming in a sense this is the this is the the entertainment
00:22:17.040 argument arm of it right there was the the more logistical arm which was age of disclosure that
00:22:21.660 came out a lou elizondo documentary that was kind of um in the background the the scaffolding for it
00:22:28.180 was the hero's journey it was lou elizondo who has been struggling behind the scenes to finally
00:22:32.600 gain credibility and now he's here and he's gonna you know do what he has to do for the american
00:22:36.600 public one of the things that they do really early in that documentary is they plant this seed of
00:22:41.380 doubt because they say flippantly and then they move on with no real context but it's you know
00:22:46.400 read in between the lines the viewer can fill in the blanks they say um there is an old guard within
00:22:53.560 the pentagon who wants to frame these things as devils and demons and they're standing in the way
00:22:59.320 of progress which is insane to say that in the pentagon you're who else calls their uh negative
00:23:07.320 spiritual entities devils and demons besides christians christians yeah so so you're alluding
00:23:12.980 to the idea that in the pentagon there's a body of christians who are doing what standing in the
00:23:17.560 way of progress which is very slippery because if you start to paint that narrative what happens is
00:23:24.320 people like us come up and sound the alarm as we get closer to disclosure and what are we doing
00:23:29.620 we're standing in the way of progress progress for what well it highly advanced technologies
00:23:33.980 and systems that'll create a veritable uh utopia on on earth much like arthur c clark's uh childhood's
00:23:41.680 childhood's end if you ever watch that i didn't read it but there is a a amazon prime adaptation
00:23:47.900 and the long and short of it is alien species reveals itself craft first yeah basically
00:23:56.080 basically they're demons in the end but until they reveal themselves their visage uh they
00:24:02.160 introduce systems of politics and and you know uh uh technologies that do create a utopia on earth
00:24:09.540 for however many years people are so grateful for that fact that when they eventually reveal
00:24:15.580 themselves to be giant greasy demons nobody really is is too upset about it um so i wouldn't be
00:24:20.940 surprised if we get something similar to that if we stand in the way of that if they're introducing
00:24:25.420 technologies that are um you know uh reforming transportation reforming the the oil oligarchs
00:24:33.120 grip on the energy sector of the world and all and we're we're changing that rapidly and everybody
00:24:38.320 is experiencing what is effectively a miracle right for humanity and christians are going no
00:24:43.120 these are demons that's not going to be a great place to be i mean it is ultimately it makes a
00:24:47.620 lot a lot of sense when you read about like losing your heads and persecution in the book of
00:24:51.860 revelation you're like yeah i could see how that i could see how you might want to cut my head off
00:24:56.460 because i'm talking crap about your hoverboard or whatever it is yeah yeah um but in in the movie
00:25:02.080 an interesting part there well even before that a lot of the interviews that spielberg was doing 0.93
00:25:07.280 He was saying that this will shake the foundation.
00:25:09.840 The movie is going to shake the foundation of people who are Christians, not believers in God, not believers in Judaism or Islam or anything like that. 0.99
00:25:18.680 Yeah. In Christianity specifically. 0.98
00:25:20.420 So I'm like, OK, I understand where you're pointing your gun. 1.00
00:25:23.440 That's fair.
00:25:24.300 Yeah. So coming into this, I'm very skeptical of what you're going to be pointing at.
00:25:27.560 And there's a there's a point in the movie.
00:25:31.400 I forget the woman's name.
00:25:33.060 She's a girlfriend to one of the protagonists.
00:25:35.460 he's the the male protagonist and spoilers spoiler alert i don't care whatever i i pirated this 0.59
00:25:41.380 crap anyway yeah it's like it's slap anyway um he's uh it's she's she's the girlfriend to the 0.54
00:25:48.800 protagonist named daniel and uh she's an ex-nun which is very convenient so she has a background 0.96
00:25:55.400 in christianity catholic christianity which is also uh it's interesting because catholic catholicism
00:26:01.380 is the only denomination that to my knowledge is sort of friendly to this oh yeah the vatican in
00:26:07.880 particular the pope saying he's going to baptize our space brothers and such yeah right i mean
00:26:12.120 because he's a ranked devil uh-huh yeah the vaticans uh apparently uh we had leo what was
00:26:18.240 his name zagami oh leo zagami i believe yeah yeah fantastic uh character very spooky but
00:26:23.880 great conversation the vatican is also recovered craft too because they're they're sort of they're
00:26:28.100 like a pseudo uh governmental entity as well yeah they're their own thing they also have their own
00:26:32.800 science and astrology wing and all kinds of stuff so yeah the vatican is they have a big telescope
00:26:37.340 named lucifer but whatever that's neither here nor there no big deal um during the film she's
00:26:42.640 struggling with god and at one point she says something like uh i believe in god but i don't
00:26:48.760 believe in his divinity so it's like uh i believe in water but it's not wet right it's like interesting
00:26:53.540 yeah it doesn't make any sense uh to me at least and the viewer is kind of like a lukewarm take
00:26:57.920 But it's just a – I think it's a splash of doubt on this character and on God itself and his power.
00:27:04.380 I'm just going to inject it really quickly. 0.62
00:27:06.500 If we were created Zachariah Sitch and Anunnaki style by a race of ETs, they genetically altered us, they could be our creators, God. 0.85
00:27:16.140 But they're not necessarily divine because they're just another alien species. 0.96
00:27:19.600 Right, right.
00:27:20.220 And since this whole thing is alien-oriented, maybe that's kind of the thing that they're doing?
00:27:25.340 It's meant to, yeah, that's like a small stripping away of the sovereignty of God, you know, the first commandment, no gods before me.
00:27:32.040 And she says this, she's arguing with Daniel, and the quote that I wrote down, well, he's hell-bent on giving disclosure.
00:27:42.060 He has USBs full of all the governmental tapes of craft and aliens and things like that, and he wants to show this somehow.
00:27:49.220 he doesn't know how and she goes you may not want to tell people about the existence of aliens
00:27:53.180 because it would disrupt a social order built on belief in a supreme being by showing them
00:27:58.680 actual supreme beings so do you see where we're going with this yeah yeah i see where we're going
00:28:05.080 let me say this guys so what i saw the movie being and everything going on is there's two
00:28:10.160 different priesthood you know in revelations 5 1 or 6 1 it says for we have been made kings and
00:28:15.160 priests unto God by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So there's the kingship and priesthood
00:28:20.060 of those who are in Christ. And then there's these other kingships and priesthoods that are
00:28:25.120 rising around us. And so that kingship and priesthood, meaning the influence of Nephilim
00:28:31.840 and UFOs, and then the worship of Nephilim and UFOs, it needs reinforcement. And so what I saw
00:28:37.380 it as was, okay, this narrative of UFOs and aliens is constantly getting reinforcement
00:28:42.880 in the news weekly so you'll have jd vance come out and say well you know uh you know i there are
00:28:48.680 things out of the book of enoch and then you have paulina luna with our pretty behind come out and
00:28:52.860 say well yeah you know we think that these are interdimensional demons and so what we're seeing
00:28:57.120 is the bolstering of that priesthood to where that what i would call false doctrine or doctrine of
00:29:02.680 devils is getting the support that it needs to get to sustain itself because we had this we and we
00:29:08.960 still have this great revival happening if you check really check the news you see thousands of
00:29:14.420 people getting baptized california people getting baptized on the beaches i hung out with some
00:29:18.060 people this weekend they just had a a camp a summer camp for kids where they was like james
00:29:23.280 we had 5 000 kids go to california for a christian summer camp normally we get a thousand we have
00:29:28.400 5 000 so you have these priesthoods that are battling each other out but it's not really it's
00:29:34.420 a it's a public battle if you know where to look but the average person doesn't know where to look
00:29:38.920 And so we see these people who are high priests of this religion of fallen angels.
00:29:44.740 Like you, I'll take like the very first person that came to my attention that stood in the spot was as a Christian that spoke about it, but maintained his loyalty to Jesus Christ was Steve Quayle.
00:29:56.160 And then we saw Steve Quayle come out, Steve, who's still there professing Jesus.
00:30:00.460 He blew up and then you had all these other people that spawned off of him like Timothy Albarino.
00:30:05.040 Timothy went on to just be a high priest of Nephilim.
00:30:07.220 I'm sorry guys if you like Tim cool but the dude's a high priest of Nephilim you can go back and you
00:30:12.500 will find very little of where he talks about Jesus he exalts those entities and creatures
00:30:16.420 and so we had these various different so you have that priesthood and you have these other priests
00:30:21.740 that spawn from each other so you got the lineage that came from Steve Quayle which are people who
00:30:26.740 will talk about it but they'll talk about Christ yes you got like a Timothy and then the people
00:30:30.800 that talk about it and they're obsessed with the entities themselves yeah so we're dealing with
00:30:35.760 this battle of priesthood that's playing out in the public's eye and if you tell people hey you
00:30:41.120 know why are you learning about ufos and aliens and nephilim and you don't know anything about
00:30:46.000 jesus they'll be like well james you know you need to read the book enoch i said no i don't the book
00:30:50.240 enoch was in my mama bible what i need to know is the power and authority i have through christ
00:30:54.420 jesus so when a nephilim an alien a demon a lizard person which is real pops up at my house i'm just
00:31:01.400 gonna sit there and look and be like what the hell made you come over here because god must not like 0.99
00:31:05.040 you sent you over to kick your butt yeah but people don't understand that they focus on the 0.99
00:31:09.960 entities so that's the worship you know what i'm saying so these guys are bringing worship to them 0.99
00:31:14.560 this was this was actually something that we encountered um well before we let me just tie
00:31:19.480 up disclosure day okay and we'll go right into this this is hugely important and and you know
00:31:23.880 what we've apologized to daddy that's right that's right we have apologized call no man daddy
00:31:28.360 unless it's timothy alvarino we did apologize to him because we went insane on him but also
00:31:35.080 it seems like it was at a bad time to call back a little press run to call back to the beginning
00:31:38.820 of what you were talking about we do a lot of comedy heavy on comedy uh he's he he wanted to
00:31:46.600 debate us and and that doesn't mix i understand debate versus bad it's gonna end bad for him
00:31:51.840 right because because we're doing a thing where we're we're playing peekaboo and it's it's a bit
00:31:57.120 unfair like the tactics but sure it got to a point where i was like i don't i don't like this guy i
00:32:02.260 interviewed and then i start wanting to like you know what i mean or debated him while i was dressed
00:32:06.220 like indiana jones if we could share a screen i'll show you in a second is it what is this one
00:32:11.080 let me let me go back to just real quick just the disclosure one egregious moment in there
00:32:16.160 she talks about um the supreme beings because that's like an idea basically god or lowercase
00:32:22.980 she got is what they're talking about when they say supreme beings sure so uh they're gonna do
00:32:27.280 the anunnaki thing this is probably so so boring yeah uh do it again though i guess so the the ex
00:32:32.880 nun calls her uh a nun that still is in the you know whatever in the church okay and she's asking
00:32:39.500 her questions about this stuff and she goes well could it be that god created more than us because
00:32:44.880 genesis said that god created us and gave us you know and the nun goes uh she says genesis well the
00:32:52.020 woman says genesis says we are his supreme creation and then the sister goes genesis says
00:32:57.100 that we're his supreme creation on earth and then i start thinking so i i look through the bible and
00:33:02.660 it's genesis 126 127 it's where they're saying god created man and then he gave dominion over
00:33:07.120 the animals and the earth and all this stuff he didn't it didn't say supreme creation it didn't
00:33:11.480 say on earth so it's a miss it's a mistranslation it's a misquotation on purpose on on on a very
00:33:18.240 well-researched movie yeah this is like the telepathy tapes thing where they're like oh
00:33:23.340 there's a ton of telepathy in this as well they can't stop themselves with telepathy mk ultra
00:33:27.580 techniques uh that's another thing james some of some of our most i would say our most important
00:33:32.280 work was on the telepathy tapes mk ultra and and how it ties into the spiritual realm and if we
00:33:37.520 have time maybe we could touch on that a little bit but um this albarino thing so so the way that
00:33:43.140 that ended up unfolding was uh i kept noticing him and a couple other guys in his circle say 1.00
00:33:47.840 If you think aliens are demons, you're an idiot. 0.99
00:33:51.300 And while that is reductive in some sense, it's really not. 1.00
00:33:54.900 I mean, it arms the individual with how to operate when it comes to these things, right?
00:33:59.740 These things are adversarial and deceptive.
00:34:02.080 But what it also does, like James told us at the top of the show, he's like, I want you guys to plug Nephilim, Desquad, say it at least 15 times.
00:34:08.000 But don't make it egregious.
00:34:09.880 And I said, all I want to do is say Nephilim, Desquad podcast on Spotify and Apple Music.
00:34:16.640 yeah yeah so uh i get it we get to a point with tim where tim's saying this stuff and we we've
00:34:22.320 had him on the show before and we actually butted heads with them on the show that was adversarial
00:34:26.220 yeah and it was like because we're dumb we had no business doing that that early on in the show
00:34:30.000 but we're like hell hold on a second it's like episode seven yeah like wait what did you just 0.76
00:34:33.800 say so we're calling him out there and uh he goes hey if you think that nephilim are uh demons i
00:34:39.220 think he said if you think aliens well actually the thing he said was basically nailed all of 0.99
00:34:44.600 our branding but more or less it was if you think aliens are demons you're an idiot and no you're 1.00
00:34:48.700 retarded that's what he said yeah and he said it so many times that i was like you too he must be 1.00
00:34:52.660 talking about me well yeah yeah talking to you on your podcast that's exactly yeah so well here look 0.93
00:34:58.020 i mean right above our little nephilim skull says retardio it's a little joke retard means 0.90
00:35:03.240 return and dio means to god so like return to god like be be retarded enough so like that that like 0.90
00:35:11.160 you're not thinking yeah we don't lean on our own intellect we don't lean on our own understanding 0.80
00:35:15.180 let the holy spirit work through you return to god and it's a joke that we say to our fans and
00:35:19.580 i think they like it yeah yeah so so what ends up happening is eventually this thing reaches such a
00:35:24.700 critical mass he keeps saying it and i'm going hey the phenomenon have so much overlap demonic
00:35:31.580 encounters alien encounters once you start to recognize patterns they're strikingly similar
00:35:36.940 in testimony when people are you know saying this is what happened to me you go well that's a that's
00:35:42.940 very similar to when people say this is what it was like when i got abducted and that you keep
00:35:47.400 scratching at that and it yields an unbelievable amount of overlapping patterns so i have a problem 0.99
00:35:53.760 with saying if you believe they're demons you're an idiot because research will show you well 0.97
00:36:00.960 actually they're very similar so we we cannot throw this out in fact the idea that they ever 0.98
00:36:06.600 flee in the name of jesus christ that aliens ever do that and they do at a huge percentage of of
00:36:12.420 testimony that needs to stay that's joseph jordan's work yeah joseph jordan mufon investigator he does
00:36:18.940 a great job of that so my response to that even though he's not talking directly to us is to
00:36:24.840 dress like indiana jones and get a whip and i cut this video where i'm like whipping my mirror 0.95
00:36:30.680 and the caption says if you believe that aliens are demons you're retarded and did you tag him 0.86
00:36:36.760 no i didn't tag him okay and then what happens is he eventually shows up in the comment section 0.80
00:36:41.260 and he goes um maybe we could have a discussion like adults about this and i go why would you
00:36:46.380 think this is about you i would just think about you unless it was you that's when the nail hits
00:36:52.240 yeah that's when the nail on the head so what ends up happening is um he challenges us to a debate
00:36:57.780 i've never done a debate and i don't even really know where we deviate um you know because i don't
00:37:03.320 absorb his content so i'm now forced to do a series on my show yeah and and i do it dressed
00:37:09.740 as indiana jones the whole time and i'm and we're watching all these documentaries and i start
00:37:14.940 seeing something very strange where it's like uh this guy this is in a in a documentary series
00:37:20.940 i forget what it is but the second one is about the vatican and how the vatican is is going to
00:37:26.820 create this gigantic you know disclosure deception and that it is demonic in its nature and it may
00:37:32.200 even bring about the antichrist and this is what timothy alberino is saying and i'm looking at this
00:37:36.620 guy and i'm going yeah yeah that's that's fascinating i agree with that this is 10 years
00:37:41.400 ago this documentary right so during the same moment age of disclosure comes out and i see
00:37:47.880 timothy alberino has done a review of age of disclosure so now i'm going to watch that on my
00:37:52.380 show and we get to that part that i talked to you about james where he the the elizondo or whoever
00:37:57.340 it is saying more or less i'm paraphrasing christians are standing in the way of progress
00:38:01.220 alvarino gets to that part and he echoes those sentiments he goes yes there are christians that
00:38:08.000 are standing in the way of progress trust the science they're calling them demons their heart
00:38:12.120 is in the right place but ultimately they're incorrect and i'm going how how is this not a
00:38:17.720 deception how is this not demonic well if you want 10 years ago you're standing on a megalithic
00:38:22.600 you know structure saying the vatican is going to create a disclosure that the antichrist is
00:38:28.380 likely going to come from i couldn't square those things so james if i could share my screen i could
00:38:33.120 show you the first like 15 seconds of or whatever it is of this debate where it kind of gets to that
00:38:39.280 the heart of exactly what you said and again i feel bad about like bringing it's whatever because
00:38:44.040 this still stands in my opinion this is still my gripe we have to stay i don't care about i don't
00:38:49.720 care about people feelings i'm a priest of jesus christ and he's gave me kingship i don't care how
00:38:55.060 people feel go ahead and show it well don't don't make fun of my hat keep in mind i'm dressed like
00:38:59.580 albarino i mean uh but he should have known by listening to you guys talk that he was not going
00:39:05.420 to be able to debate and talk out talk like i know from listening to you guys in the first five
00:39:10.560 minutes that the anointing on your tongue is one that a clown the hell out of somebody i would have
00:39:15.680 been like okay i'm gonna be careful with these two dudes because they'll cut me up this i would
00:39:18.720 have to turn on let me tell you i prayed about this because i don't want to cut down somebody
00:39:22.620 who's in the body of christ but i needed to there was something that i saw and i and i came upon it
00:39:27.880 god showed me this thing and it was a real problem and so i didn't care about the entire debate he
00:39:33.200 wanted to talk about whether or not angels had wings and all this i don't care about any of that
00:39:38.260 What I care about is you spreading a seed of doubt about Christians standing in the way of disclosure. 0.60
00:39:42.840 That's all I cared about. 0.83
00:39:44.520 And I prayed in almost desperation.
00:39:47.920 Okay, wait, stop, stop.
00:39:48.220 Before you start this, is it the lighting that's making him look pale and green and demon-possessed?
00:39:54.160 Or is – look at you.
00:39:55.680 Because I'm not – look at my studio. 0.99
00:39:57.160 My studio sucks. 0.97
00:39:58.080 So let's be clear. 0.98
00:39:59.140 You guys know lighting.
00:40:01.280 Is the lighting that's making him look pale and green and demon-possessed?
00:40:07.260 his demeanor was like this the entire time and i think it was early he's got a bad set i think
00:40:12.920 he's got a camera up here and he's looking at a laptop down here and he's got bad lighting and
00:40:17.940 it was early he was tired he was also pissed off because i had been clowning him yeah all over
00:40:22.640 twitter he came in not happy to this debate he was not pleased i gotta see this come on come on
00:40:27.140 let's go let's go let's go let's go so the only thing that you've done is make a gigantic film
00:40:31.660 that hundreds of thousands no sound no sound here let's let's fix that up share you gotta
00:40:36.140 to click the share sound click share again and then click the right hand oh so the little thing
00:40:41.560 down there um also share system audio perfect got it okay all right now let's go let's go let's go
00:40:46.960 let's go all right let's see if this works maybe millions of people will see and the only mention
00:40:50.980 that you saw fit to inject of something christ adjacent was a dismissal of the notion saying
00:40:57.640 that anybody who did express that notion i'll tell you what i'm in the way of progress wait
00:41:01.600 wait can you hear it oh you can't hear it i can't even see it or hear it it's not shared on the
00:41:05.120 Oh, that's strange.
00:41:05.860 Oh, what is happening?
00:41:06.860 Okay.
00:41:07.220 I'm sorry.
00:41:08.000 We thought we were all jamming out to it and everything.
00:41:10.780 Okay.
00:41:11.220 We'll try one more time.
00:41:12.100 And then share.
00:41:13.300 Here we go.
00:41:13.620 There it is.
00:41:14.280 Okay.
00:41:14.540 Pull it back.
00:41:15.100 I should get it.
00:41:15.800 Okay.
00:41:16.040 So the only thing that you've done is make a gigantic film that hundreds of thousands,
00:41:21.080 maybe millions of people will see.
00:41:22.720 And the only mention that you saw fit to inject of something Christ adjacent was a dismissal
00:41:28.700 of the notion saying that anybody who did express that notion stood in the way of progress.
00:41:33.840 Something that I've actually heard you say on your review of Age of Disclosure, you echo those exact same sentiments.
00:41:38.960 You said that those people who said demonic and demons were misguided.
00:41:42.780 These individuals are misguided.
00:41:45.660 Which is the exact same thing that was said on that documentary.
00:41:48.620 They just said those people stood in the way of progress.
00:41:50.820 They're actually working against the interest of disclosing the truth.
00:41:56.680 So what you've done now is to the average person who's not well-researched, who doesn't have the analytical mind, who doesn't even have the time. 0.71
00:42:02.880 you've subliminally planted a little seed in their head and that is religious people have stood in
00:42:08.680 the way of progress because of things like labeling this demonic or of the devil which means
00:42:14.200 that anytime they hear that in the future they're going to scoff and recoil at that what this leads
00:42:20.040 to according to the new age and a multitude of other things including the bible is a falling
00:42:24.340 away and a consolidation of the religions one world religion under this new umbrella but you
00:42:31.260 have to actually get christianity out of the way it's not unremarkable or insignificant that in
00:42:37.560 this gigantic documentary the only thing they saw fit to do was dismiss it in the most flippant ways
00:42:42.800 they're not christians a lot of these guys are christians they're they're not approaching this
00:42:46.760 phenomenon without they're not approaching this without being rooted in jesus christ as we just
00:42:51.640 said rooted in the gospel rooted in the gospel is what you said right this is the biggest mouthpiece 0.98
00:42:56.760 on this phenomenon are not rooted in the bible he kind of got in his ass there that was a little 0.97
00:43:02.540 crazy he didn't like that oh wait we're muted okay okay can you hear us now yeah i can hear you 0.97
00:43:08.980 guys so so so so that whole time see i thought you were clipping him in at first so that whole
00:43:15.820 time he's sitting there like this uh so there no no he it's just like this is right now where
00:43:20.400 we're having a conversation there was moments where we clipped him in only to show that was
00:43:25.100 saying it like saying the things i was accusing him of from his age of disclosure uh review okay
00:43:30.100 so when he's saying you said this i just clipped in here you saying it yeah yeah so nobody thinks
00:43:34.480 i'm making up anything but then he does start to try to rebut see he does a thing and and god
00:43:40.420 bless him i hope he figures it out i i hope he's not so close to the phenomenon and has good
00:43:45.040 intentions but got deviated i i agree with a lot of your assessment james um but he does this thing
00:43:50.980 where he will speak in convoluted platitudes.
00:43:54.340 He'll use like every, I just used some $5 words there,
00:43:56.880 but he will use every $5 word at his disposal
00:43:59.740 to make something that should be easy to understand,
00:44:03.220 incredibly confusing.
00:44:04.620 And then what happens is the average person
00:44:06.140 will just lean on this person's greater understanding, right?
00:44:09.460 Because you've used so many words
00:44:11.340 and you must have it all figured out.
00:44:13.800 But he's almost like a wizard in this way
00:44:17.260 where he takes a thing and he makes it seem so complicated.
00:44:20.440 when in reality it is in some ways complicated.
00:44:24.760 I'm sure there's a vast array of entities,
00:44:28.240 but they're either demonic.
00:44:29.700 Christ says you are either with me or against me, right?
00:44:31.840 There is no, you're hot or you're cold.
00:44:34.960 Even lukewarm is spat from his mouth, right?
00:44:37.740 We had somebody on our show recently, Dr. Heather Lynn,
00:44:40.060 who said she was a fence sitter for a long time.
00:44:41.820 And then she said, Satan owns the fence, right?
00:44:44.480 So there is no in between here.
00:44:47.320 You're either with God or you're against God.
00:44:49.420 You're with Jesus Christ or you're against Jesus Christ.
00:44:52.160 And so so making any effort to make this more convoluted than it actually has to be, I think, is also.
00:44:58.740 But he will do that. He'll get in your way and he'll cut you off and he'll speak.
00:45:03.460 He'll what's the the expression of filibuster for.
00:45:07.460 He didn't like when I said that an hour, an hour.
00:45:09.900 We said, what is a demon? We wanted to start off with laying the groundwork.
00:45:13.060 What is a demon? Forty five minutes. It took him to say what a demon is.
00:45:16.300 and so you know it was one of those things where where you're watching that clip i was done already
00:45:22.720 letting this guy go off for as long as he had and muddy these waters like we needed something
00:45:27.360 very clean and very clear to cut through the confusion for the audience and i needed to pin
00:45:32.620 him against the wall and have him answer for something which of course he really didn't uh
00:45:38.300 it was another let me ask you a question i'm gonna cut you off what happened when you mentioned the
00:45:43.760 name jesus did you read the reactions on his face as you mentioned the name jesus during the
00:45:47.680 conversation because what i'm gonna tell you guys what i saw just just and i'm i'm not gonna beat
00:45:51.720 around the bush i saw a man that's extremely demonized or even possibly possessed every time
00:45:59.120 i've dealt with someone who's been possessed and they've had that greenish like lightish it's like
00:46:04.820 just you can have white skin but then it's green and pale and nasty and then you look in their eyes
00:46:10.560 and there's no light within her eyes. 1.00
00:46:12.200 You ever seen Billy Carson?
00:46:13.480 Like, if you've seen Billy Carson, look at Billy Carson's eyes. 0.83
00:46:16.140 Billy Carson is demon possessed.
00:46:17.700 You can see it because it's like, it's almost like the eyes of the guys 0.58
00:46:21.680 who I grew up who were murderers, but they haven't really murdered anybody
00:46:25.420 because you know that's not what they cut from,
00:46:28.300 but it's still that same dead look in their eyes.
00:46:32.020 That's the same thing I just saw in Timothy Albarino.
00:46:34.160 It's the same thing I've seen him from the beginning
00:46:35.780 because I was around on YouTube when Timothy Albarino blew up
00:46:39.720 with steve quail and it was this time period where he was with steve and it was all good
00:46:44.180 and then there was this split and then it was like pew and he took off and i was like this is weird
00:46:48.840 and i look up for steve and where's steve at steve is sick and steve is losing his influence and
00:46:53.320 this guy's skyrocketing and i said oh these are two different altars yeah two different spirits
00:46:58.760 that we're seeing playing out and so now he's erected this altar to the nephilim which are
00:47:03.700 the fallen angels which are basically the little g gods yeah now you're getting promoted but you 0.71
00:47:08.900 pay the price for it and you can look at him and tell that he's playing the price for it i'm sorry 0.95
00:47:12.660 i'm too old to be playing games that boy got demons on him or he demonized we did a show he
00:47:16.980 accused us of that he accused oh yeah yeah he accused us of of behaving demonically or something
00:47:22.200 like that we would milk him for all of his cat milk yeah we said he's a cat man we we we crossed
00:47:28.420 the line we crossed the line we did insane things to him on twitter um and and it was really bad
00:47:34.760 because our read was this guy is trying to position himself currently
00:47:39.380 so that he can be on Rogan's disclosure is coming soon.
00:47:42.500 He wants to be an associated talking head.
00:47:44.800 He's smoking cigars with Lou Elizondo and everything.
00:47:48.080 So I did recognize this was bad press for him at the time.
00:47:52.160 It was going very viral, what we were doing to him.
00:47:56.100 But we did an interview recently with a guy.
00:47:59.140 What was his name again?
00:47:59.880 I'm sorry.
00:48:00.380 Leo Zagami.
00:48:01.100 Leo Zagami.
00:48:02.000 I really hate bringing this because it's like, ugh.
00:48:03.800 I know, I know.
00:48:04.760 But the thing is, this won't go away.
00:48:08.280 It won't go away because—
00:48:09.420 I think we nailed it.
00:48:10.300 That's why it won't go away.
00:48:11.160 We saw something.
00:48:11.980 Timothy, the person, I've apologized to him, and I said, listen, I'm done.
00:48:17.040 But the narrative, it's still living.
00:48:19.620 Yeah, yeah, disclosure's still going.
00:48:21.100 I just watched Disclosure Day, and it's what you're saying.
00:48:23.120 Yeah.
00:48:23.420 It's what you're pushing at.
00:48:24.940 So there's still a big problem.
00:48:26.520 You know what I mean?
00:48:27.100 Like, I don't know how to square that circle.
00:48:28.680 It's hard, yeah.
00:48:29.320 I don't think you need to square it.
00:48:31.060 I think it's two different kingdoms.
00:48:32.620 That's the problem that we make as Christians.
00:48:34.760 You see, we don't understand that there's two completely different kingdoms, and there's one mountain of influence.
00:48:40.540 And so God puts his sons, the sons of God, on the mountain of influence.
00:48:44.520 The Bible says as many as have been led by the Spirit of God have been given the power to become sons of God.
00:48:51.140 So you have a power to be a son of God to represent the kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the mountain of influence.
00:48:55.740 And then there's other people who have a different spirit that elevate them to the mountain.
00:48:59.380 And then we're Christians, what we do is when we have a contentious conversation with someone from a different kingdom, then we feel bad. 0.70
00:49:06.020 I'm sorry, I don't feel bad.
00:49:07.800 I like that.
00:49:08.280 Because here's the thing.
00:49:09.080 The Great Commission is to bring people to Christ.
00:49:11.300 So if you're not pointing people to Jesus Christ, then you're pointing them somewhere else, and more importantly, you're sending them to hell.
00:49:16.940 And if I have an opportunity to talk about it, then I'm going to talk about it, and I don't care how you feel about it. 0.62
00:49:21.900 You know, we can box it out, stab it out, shoot it out, whatever we got to do.
00:49:24.480 but I don't care how you feel about it because it's my job to point people 0.94
00:49:28.500 towards Jesus. You point them towards somebody else.
00:49:30.920 So essentially I'm just going to let you just run around and take all my 1.00
00:49:34.140 brothers and sisters in Christ to hell because it's Christians who have this, 1.00
00:49:38.600 they want to know about these things. 0.98
00:49:41.120 They want to know about the invisible things from Colossians,
00:49:45.080 I think it's five, 15 through 16 where it talks about the things that were made
00:49:49.080 that were visible and invisible,
00:49:50.080 but they want to know about those things because it's a supernatural aspect of
00:49:53.180 our religion and our faith but there's nobody there to explain it to them so they go to a
00:49:57.820 rank devil yeah they get laid in the wrong direction so i don't worry about that's exactly
00:50:01.460 that's exactly it go ahead a fair assessment that i've been doing though like because i agree with
00:50:05.720 what you're saying is like i i am i'm binary and i think that is biblical it's like uh you know
00:50:11.500 god separated light from darkness the ones and zeros very clear yes or no i'm just a guy though
00:50:17.780 and i know that i miss sometimes and i do that all the time i'm like i'm like all right we're
00:50:22.940 going to separate and there's going to be clear definitive answers because working in the gray is
00:50:26.620 very strange for me like i don't this this doesn't this doesn't work with me so after i have separated
00:50:32.480 and i go okay you're on this side you're on that side afterward i will go back and i'll look at it
00:50:36.740 again and be like did i mess up here like let me just make sure because i'm just a guy still i'm
00:50:41.440 trying my best but did i miss yeah did i push somebody into a corner that didn't have to go
00:50:47.380 into that corner you know what i mean well this is the thing it keeps coming up right so we had
00:50:51.080 this conversation with leo leo zagami yeah it's like i didn't miss i know but he did a documentary
00:50:55.580 with them and it was the documentary we were watching i didn't even recognize leo zagami he
00:50:59.840 reached out to us to come on the show said fantastic i'm looking at him and i'm going like
00:51:04.920 this guy is very familiar yeah and i and i realized you know in the documentary when i watched it
00:51:10.500 remember i told you we were watching timothy albarino documentaries i made fun of this guy
00:51:14.000 because he looks like dracula or something like that like he's just a really crazy looking
00:51:18.080 character really fascinating guy and he starts to talk about the alvarino thing by this time i put
00:51:22.960 two and two together i realize who he is and he says you know so take this up with leo zagami
00:51:28.300 it's public information it's on our show but he says that uh there was this time number one they
00:51:34.340 had a falling out when leo came to him and said aliens are demons that drove a wedge between them
00:51:39.460 now he doesn't hear from him anymore but he says that uh he said it like this was just known
00:51:44.540 information uh that when they were going after the vatican and they were making these documentaries
00:51:49.260 um i believe he said his car was tampered with so the the brake lines in his car timothy alvarino's
00:51:57.820 car uh i believe he also said that his wife got sick like like in other words alluding to this
00:52:04.180 idea that he ruffled the wrong feathers which 10 years ago before this was sort of um a free-for-all
00:52:11.160 in regards to content creation and talking about the matter and i and i really do tip my hat to
00:52:15.980 all the people who were in this for for years before we were because it's very dangerous for
00:52:21.280 a long time now we could pretty much get up and say whatever we want in great deal thanks to the
00:52:26.700 people who came and said it while it was still dangerous it seems that that was the case for
00:52:30.920 timothy albarino and he goes away for a number of years like two and a half years and then he comes
00:52:36.200 back and then all of a sudden he's on the biggest platforms in the world and so i don't know what
00:52:40.780 happened there leo will say and this is you know his words i'm paraphrasing that he also had terrible
00:52:46.780 things happen to him and he suffered the consequences but he stood on business and let
00:52:51.820 these things happen and kept saying what he was saying and eventually had to flee rome and all
00:52:56.760 these crazy things happened to him he said more or less that tim folded under the pressure i don't
00:53:01.680 know if that's the case and i don't uh i don't envy anybody who's had to be in in those types
00:53:08.000 of circumstances um i like to think that if anybody came and tried to pressure me that i
00:53:13.740 would continue doing exactly what god wants me to do but i also see you know any number of ways that
00:53:20.540 they can try to get you to fold and you start messing with the man's family maybe that's what
00:53:24.040 happened how many times did peter deny christ and christ is in front of him so it's like that's
00:53:28.420 another one of those things where i'm looking at and i'm going that's heavy i try not to think
00:53:33.540 about i just try to keep moving and keep moving and yeah and when it shows up when when that kind
00:53:37.600 of thing shows up at my doorstep i i usually just ridicule it and you know thank god for comedy too
00:53:42.340 thank god that he's made us funny because that helps a lot the problem with what we're doing
00:53:46.500 is that we're consistently over a target and we don't know what it is and and you brought up uh
00:53:51.780 what's his name the telepathy tapes no billy carson oh billy carson we have a story with
00:53:56.400 billy carson too um accidental story but it's like i think that's again like holy spirit and
00:54:01.860 just being over the target in general yeah we're on luke rudkowski show we're in in luke's house
00:54:07.320 at the time when he was still doing for rumble or whatever and uh we do the show great show at the
00:54:12.460 end of it luke goes by the way the whole show is about aliens or rebranding of the nephilim and
00:54:17.440 the fallen angels that's the whole show this is two years ago yeah and at the end he goes we do
00:54:21.880 a cool thing where you can ask a question for the next guest coming and we're like can we ask who it
00:54:27.260 is and he's like yeah it's billy carson we're like at the time like i don't know who he was yeah
00:54:30.880 So we go, ask him why aliens flee, aliens and demons flee in the name of Jesus.
00:54:37.000 And he goes, okay.
00:54:37.680 And he, like, writes it down.
00:54:38.880 He doesn't know.
00:54:39.680 You know, Luke is a political head.
00:54:40.960 That's a fun question to ask anybody, though.
00:54:42.800 Like, I didn't know who Billy Carson was.
00:54:44.320 I just want to give whoever's coming next, like, one of my more interesting topics was, like, why does that happen?
00:54:49.540 You know, it just happens to be the guy.
00:54:51.180 The guy.
00:54:51.860 The guy.
00:54:52.720 The emerald tablet, you know.
00:54:55.460 Yeah, man. 0.99
00:54:56.000 He got emerald tablets hanging out his butt. 0.99
00:54:57.720 Yeah, he does. 0.99
00:54:58.960 Yeah, he does.
00:54:59.640 So he did some sort of word salad, you know, ninjutsu to get out of it or whatever and kept it moving.
00:55:05.320 But, yeah, we ended up touching that guy with something.
00:55:08.040 I mean, that probably disrupted the flow of his entire show, I would imagine.
00:55:11.540 You know, like, oh, these guys called Nephilim Death Squad were here before.
00:55:14.400 They want you to answer why aliens flee at the name of Jesus Christ. 0.99
00:55:17.760 And he's like, oh, shit. 0.99
00:55:20.680 I'll tell you something, guys, that maybe you should be aware of. 0.99
00:55:23.840 You know, on the Mount of Influence, there's people who, like, they pay the price and they go through the persecution.
00:55:29.640 Because Jesus said we'd be persecuted for his name's sake.
00:55:32.240 Yeah.
00:55:32.700 And then there's people who are on the height of the mountains of influence.
00:55:36.360 When you get to those peak top heights of the mountain, like Alex Jones is one of those.
00:55:40.860 I remember Billy Carson went on Alex Jones' show about maybe a year ago or two years ago.
00:55:45.860 I remember watching him sitting there talking, and he's talking Nephilim, and he's talking Anunnaki, and he's talking Emerald Tablets.
00:55:51.660 And I'm like, God, why is this dude on the show?
00:55:53.120 And he said, because he's about to get judged.
00:55:54.840 And I said, oh, my God.
00:55:55.780 He said, because Alex Jones is a Christian author.
00:55:57.600 a hundred million people listening every day and you know like the month after he left that show
00:56:02.840 he had went to the hospital got sick almost died and all the rest of this stuff and so people don't
00:56:08.040 understand this about the mountain of influence just so you guys know there'll be people who come
00:56:12.000 to you for you to hold a conversation with and then to the lord will let them bring him there
00:56:17.140 for you to contend with them and then he he uses that juxtaposition as judgment so one person's
00:56:23.660 go up the other person's gonna go down yeah so when you see that and you experience it man don't
00:56:27.980 trip on it it's just a lot of people coming to to to bold righteous men to hear what has to be said
00:56:35.020 because nobody else can tell it to them so nobody else could tell timothy alvarino this because
00:56:40.140 they're not bold enough to tell him because he's timothy nobody had james nobody had done that
00:56:45.180 nobody had done that especially not the way that we did it it was we also have a very bad name
00:56:50.060 in this crowd now of i suppose you call it christian influencers oh yeah pod pastor whatever
00:56:56.440 a lot of them don't like us the message goes out and the message is clear they put out a little
00:57:00.660 bat signal on us and but it doesn't really matter because we're doing our thing and you're gonna
00:57:06.020 have to deal with us eventually down the line yeah at some in some form or fashion i don't like to i
00:57:11.560 I don't like to be so so oftentimes our audience knows so much about our thinking process and and, you know, the way we frame things within the Bible that we'll have people come on.
00:57:27.200 And I'm not going to challenge you on every little thing you say, you know, and especially if I feel like your walk is your own, you're figuring it out.
00:57:34.460 And if I recognize like if I'm going to challenge you on this little thing, it's going to derail the whole conversation.
00:57:38.180 but we had a guy come on and he was practically begging to get on and um and he was getting 1.00
00:57:45.960 you know recommended by personal friends of the show and he's a buddhist and i'm going i don't 0.88
00:57:51.560 have any desire to talk to a buddhist but um our friends kept saying to have him i said we go okay
00:57:56.800 fine and that was one of those two where i always pray that the holy spirit joins us on the show
00:58:03.760 in that whatever we say because i don't really plan anything i don't plan anything i i research
00:58:08.260 whatever i feel an unction to research um but i'm not really doing anything sometimes we'll go on a
00:58:13.940 show and we go like what are we going to present and i go i don't want to present anything i want
00:58:17.540 whatever i move to talk about is what i'm going to move i don't i'm not going to do that but um
00:58:22.020 i prayed heavily on that because i don't want to mislead anybody and have them start moving
00:58:27.880 towards buddhism and misrepresent that's like that's a tricky one yeah yeah so so i'm i'm
00:58:32.520 praying that particular day you know guide my words reveal these things to me and and and put
00:58:38.160 on my heart whatever it is i'm supposed to say in these moments that guy you know he he was fine he
00:58:43.860 was a nice guy but and he's trying to basically say buddhism is the same thing as christianity
00:58:49.140 and i let him do his thing and then all of a sudden i started hitting him because i'm like
00:58:52.760 well what about salvation what does it say about repentance what does buddhism have to do with sin
00:58:57.840 And like all of these different things started coming out of me and you could feel it wasn't it wasn't like it didn't tank the episode, but everybody was like, oh, no, we've stepped into a place now where even some of the friends of the show were there helping kind of help this guy along for whatever reason.
00:59:14.940 I don't know. You know, that's that's between them. But afterwards, they were like, that was incredible.
00:59:20.380 And it wasn't me. It wasn't me. It was just like God was putting on these. It's just simple questions.
00:59:24.240 what about repentance what about our our sinful nature what about salvation like none of these
00:59:31.060 things are addressed sacrifice of jesus christ none of these things are addressed buddhism
00:59:35.840 interesting like oh well buddhism likes jesus too i'm like yeah yeah yeah so does islam so do all
00:59:39.860 these other things what about these these unbelievably important uh tenets of christianity
00:59:45.620 what are we to do about our sinful nature what are we to do about salvation like nothing there
00:59:50.840 was nothing there was no answer to that whatsoever so i go okay so it's just like christianity
00:59:56.260 minus those incredibly important elements and then i said so why would anybody be buddhist when they
01:00:02.660 could just be christian and it was like you could hear a pin drop and and he had nothing to say and
01:00:07.820 i was like i don't i don't want to do that but what i want more is to not mislead people and i
01:00:13.500 don't want to play around with the word of god that's what i want above all things is if i'm
01:00:18.160 going to pray to be a servant if i'm going to serve the kingdom of god if god has a plan and
01:00:21.840 i get to be a part of it and i get to do whatever god's will is i i don't want to play around with
01:00:28.200 that i don't want to mess around we're very funny we do the comedy thing but like when it comes to
01:00:33.200 issues of salvation and like i'm not i'm not playing with that end up like ananias and
01:00:37.420 sapphira that's like some real stuff right there man i'm good on that yeah yeah no thank you
01:00:42.880 somebody just buried me in the coffee shop yeah yeah yeah yeah bro no i tell you
01:00:48.920 from my experience and i've been like in the public sky way longer than i started with youtube
01:00:55.260 i was on radio for a long time before i came on the youtube from my experience when it comes to
01:01:00.060 those type of issues and dealing with the spiritual nature of things you only have one choice if you
01:01:07.420 are a part of the kingdom of our lord and savior jesus christ and that's to tell the truth and
01:01:10.540 tell it boldly yep and then to hell with whatever comes next i like i did alex's show where the
01:01:15.940 battle act showed up a couple of weeks ago i saw that there were helicopters flying around my house
01:01:20.580 wow around my house for three days like i'm outside in the backyard doing my prayers and
01:01:25.220 the helicopter flies i'm like okay they got a helicopter whatever and it circles again i'm like
01:01:30.040 okay and it circles the third time i'm walk out and i walk out till i can see and i look up at
01:01:33.960 the helicopter you can see the guy looking down at me and i said oh this is wow this is brand new
01:01:38.920 so you okay i started praying i just stood there put my hands up and started praying i prayed for
01:01:42.760 like five minutes then he circled one more time and he looked and he darted off the next morning
01:01:46.840 they came at like five o'clock i went outside i prayed the next day they came i just stood there
01:01:52.600 and i just looked and i was like okay lord can we get this helicopter to crash right now
01:01:56.200 and it was almost like as i was praying the god looked down and took off fast and i was like okay
01:02:01.800 so this is it's the price that you pay yes on the mountain of influence but god is there to defend
01:02:07.320 you and to take care of you and look out for you so it's just one of those things that we have to
01:02:10.680 and ladies and gentlemen i've been saying this those you watching this this is we talk about
01:02:16.260 the information war where it's talking about truth and you know what's going on in ukraine
01:02:20.880 what's talking about what's going on in russia but then there's just other spiritual informational
01:02:24.760 war that's going on at a level beneath that actually it's a level above that that talks
01:02:30.020 about the things that create the issues in this earth that we're dealing with and that's where
01:02:34.780 you should be interjecting yourself like if you got the ability to talk you should be talking
01:02:39.360 about it it don't matter if you get five people to listen you should turn on your camera and start
01:02:43.280 talking about it because that's the next phase of the information wars the spiritual information war
01:02:48.280 and that's where we're in that's what we're fighting against right now to try and wake
01:02:51.760 people up and make sure people don't burn in hell yeah that's what it's about guys that really is
01:02:56.520 about that that's huge you know you're talking you're saying talking about it right we've been
01:03:00.240 given the ability to speak and uh one of the friends of the show ed mabry who really helped
01:03:05.220 me understand the bible when actually we got his new book right oh that's right yeah he's uh he's
01:03:09.360 an author and uh and he he does almost strictly biblical content and uh he's been a tremendous
01:03:15.960 help for me in particular i know both of us but i wasn't always christian i was a conspiracy
01:03:21.060 theorist for a long time didn't become a christian like i said or maybe till like 32 33 and that was
01:03:27.620 such a slow go and um and he helped me so much but one of the things he says is you you speak a
01:03:34.020 thing and it happens in the spiritual realm and then eventually it takes place on earth and this
01:03:38.280 is what the new age calls manifestation which is real slippery right because these gnostic ideas
01:03:44.040 occult ideas new age ideas they're operating on a lot of truth but they're fundamentally incorrect
01:03:50.260 about the nature of things so it's we say like nine truths to sell you one lie one lie and that's
01:03:56.400 above so below or as in heaven so on earth exactly yeah exactly so um but that idea of speaking
01:04:03.460 is huge it's actually kind of relevant to what we're talking about before with the telepathy
01:04:07.660 tapes everybody in the new age and everybody who's you know into the telepathy tapes or whatever
01:04:12.780 they think that telepathy is this like unbelievable gift and i actually think it is um it is a step
01:04:21.960 below maybe significantly below speaking right god uses the word to create all things and and
01:04:28.560 through our research it does seem that frequency and vibration are um maybe there's more to
01:04:35.760 understand about them than what science is is currently allowing um this idea that everything
01:04:42.720 is made up of frequency and vibration and everything is mostly empty space and all this
01:04:47.340 stuff it gets tossed around and it sounds really woo woo um and and of course a lot of these new
01:04:51.720 age uh ideologies grab onto that and they'll use it for whatever narrative they want to propagate
01:04:56.860 but i do think that it's rooted in scripture i mean to use the word and then for jesus to be
01:05:03.280 the word made flesh like i think the word like speaking is actually incredibly powerful well
01:05:08.840 i mean a quick example that goes biblically and also on the new age side new ages will use uh
01:05:15.220 I don't know, let's say a Rife machine or some sort of frequency technology healing,
01:05:19.160 which it possibly could work if it's dialed in correctly. 0.60
01:05:22.700 But on the other side of it, biblically, Israel is using a shofar. 0.68
01:05:27.340 They're walking around the walls of Jericho and blowing that for seven days.
01:05:30.440 And the shofar, when you look at the construction of this instrument,
01:05:34.360 it's not going to even call it an instrument,
01:05:35.840 it has so many turns in it that when you blow air through it,
01:05:39.660 the frequency coming in, it's creating levels of dissonance.
01:05:44.860 And by the time it comes out, it has this wacky sound.
01:05:47.000 You've heard it before, right?
01:05:48.080 It's like, it is crazy.
01:05:50.500 It's disruptive to the environment around it.
01:05:52.620 What you're doing is disrupting at a frequency level, at an atomic level, with vibration and sound.
01:06:01.440 And they did this seven times, and they still do this.
01:06:05.260 And the walls of Jericho crumble.
01:06:07.960 The enemy's walls crumble.
01:06:09.300 So there's something to the fundamental structure of how we live and the atomic structure of things, this table, whatever it may be, and frequency and the effect that it can have on it.
01:06:20.900 Especially if you really believe that God created the earth by just speaking into existence.
01:06:25.800 That's frequency.
01:06:26.960 I actually think one of the things that makes that more fascinating.
01:06:30.380 That's vibration. I'm sorry.
01:06:31.540 Wait, wait, wait. I got to cut y'all off right here.
01:06:33.260 Go ahead. 0.99
01:06:33.460 I'm going to cut y'all off, and I'm going to call bullshit on the frequency stuff. 0.99
01:06:38.480 This is what I'm going to call bullshit on the frequencies. 0.99
01:06:40.640 Pardon my language, ladies and gentlemen. 0.98
01:06:42.520 Now, we know that there are frequencies.
01:06:44.060 Don't get me wrong.
01:06:45.240 And we know that spirits travel on sound.
01:06:47.860 So if you recall in the book of Revelations, it talks about the horns that blow and the seals that are being opened.
01:06:54.500 And you notice that all throughout the Bible, spirits traveled on sounds.
01:06:58.260 The mighty rushing wind, the Holy Spirit coming in as a sound.
01:07:01.560 Spirits travel on sound.
01:07:02.640 So it is what it is.
01:07:03.880 When we start talking about people who manifest things, the Bible says you shall decree a thing and it shall be established unto you. 0.83
01:07:11.520 So when you decree a thing as a Christian, that thing is established unto you. 0.56
01:07:15.780 So making a decree and declaration is I decree and declare the name of Jesus Christ that the Nephilim podcast shall be successful.
01:07:24.580 You pray that every day, every day.
01:07:26.120 You're downloading a realm of something from the spirit realm into this realm by decree and declaring it.
01:07:30.420 Right. The problem with the frequency stuff is that these guys have taken this narrative because when you start talking about frequency, then you're going to get into people saying, well, you know, the chosen ones can use different frequencies.
01:07:41.160 Then you go from frequency to the chosen ones. And when you get into the chosen ones, now you're starting to get into people who have pride in themselves like I can do.
01:07:49.360 Yes. Yes. The basic nature of dominion that God gave when the Bible said, let us make man in our image and let them have dominion.
01:07:58.300 there's a natural state of dominion that you have in this earth so uh the average individual who
01:08:05.340 never accepted jesus christ they're protected by that natural dominion from being made in god's
01:08:09.900 image right then there's those who accept jesus christ and have been and been brought into the
01:08:15.360 family of god so now they have authority so we got dominion we got authority and so when you're
01:08:20.940 functioning in authority and dominion you are powerful to do anything so healing is commanded
01:08:26.360 when you have the power, I mean, the authority and the dominion.
01:08:30.020 Going back to them walking around the, what was that?
01:08:33.960 The Walls of Jericho.
01:08:35.520 Yeah, the Walls of Jericho.
01:08:37.400 Before they walked around the Walls of Jericho, you remember,
01:08:40.280 he went out and he met an angel.
01:08:42.420 And he said, yeah, do you be for us or do you be for the enemy?
01:08:45.780 The angel said, I ain't for neither one of y'all.
01:08:47.400 I'm for the Lord.
01:08:48.540 And he talked too much, and the angel said,
01:08:50.160 you're going to be quiet for seven days and you're going to march. 0.84
01:08:53.480 Everybody talks about the shofar blowing,
01:08:55.800 but they don't understand that when they marched they marched with angels and that city was a 0.53
01:09:00.300 cuboid you know if you got a cuboid no matter what you do to a cuboid when it falls it's going to
01:09:05.540 fall and still be a cuboid so they marched for seven days they blew the shofar and the angels 0.52
01:09:11.120 stomped the walls down to when the city fell down into the ground and see that's the problem
01:09:16.680 and i'm not talking about you guys but that's the problem that happens when people don't really go
01:09:21.460 deep into their bible study you neglect the the movements of angels like when we make a decree and
01:09:27.220 declare declaration it's angels that go out and make those things happen those are angels that
01:09:32.860 are equipped the bible says the lord will give his angels charge over thee so that you don't dash
01:09:37.220 your foot on a stone and so you'll find these people talking about frequencies they're talking
01:09:41.140 about all these different things but they are absent all the rest of the knowledge of the bible
01:09:45.900 and so it becomes its own thing and then they become prideful in that thing like yeah James
01:09:51.780 you don't know nothing about the book of Enoch like one of the things that's most interesting
01:09:56.520 about the book Enoch if you ever read it was it talks about Cain and Abel and it talks about Abel
01:10:02.920 being in the holding place where they hold people before they go to heaven and it says that Abel
01:10:09.160 was petitioning the throne of the Lord making suit against his brother Cain in his bloodline
01:10:14.620 day and night which lets you know that abel was filing a court case against his brother
01:10:21.100 in the courts of heaven day and night he was filing suit against his brother day and night
01:10:25.780 in the courts of heaven but you won't see that unless you actually read this stuff with the
01:10:30.840 holy spirit so we got a lot of people who just like they're pulling things that just don't make
01:10:35.200 no sense man it makes no sense at all and it's absolutely crazy guys i mean it's insane i agree
01:10:39.700 with you i'm not trying to attribute too much power to these things i'm just trying to establish
01:10:44.340 that there is something there yeah well there's something there's something to do with uh with
01:10:49.780 this idea but i agree what you're saying absent of god which is what they've done the the new age
01:10:55.140 movement has taken this uh the frequency aspect the vibration aspect and they've removed god from
01:11:00.680 it now the power is upon themselves yeah yeah and this stuff does work what did you say they're like
01:11:05.260 special special special boys special boy there's something there's levels of like low level magic
01:11:11.180 and you're going to tell me that this stuff doesn't work witchcraft is real they can do this
01:11:14.780 stuff but there are also levels of power that are above that we're talking about authority and
01:11:18.880 dominion that we've been given so sure these things do exist and i feel like when we're talking to
01:11:23.560 like new age uh parishioners or people that are coming from there if i tell them like yeah that's
01:11:28.620 all no like no no no for sure what you're doing over there is real but it's not it's not real
01:11:34.180 power you're you're also misunderstanding the nature of it yeah and it also comes at an extreme
01:11:38.180 cost you know so so james a couple things you said there that i want to touch on um but i do
01:11:43.360 like that i do like the walls of jericho thing i'm gonna go have i'm gonna go back and uh research
01:11:47.820 that a little bit more so check it out you'll see it so uh james said um that demons travel on sound
01:11:55.320 which i would yeah that seems to come up over and over again and then of course uh the special boy
01:12:00.780 everything i think that relates directly to what i've kind of been researching lately i found myself
01:12:07.500 in a gate program a lot of people are familiar with the gate program uh facebook group and i
01:12:12.960 entered it to kind of see like what are these people talking about what do they think what do
01:12:15.660 they make of their experiences and and you know the kind of the bigger picture of things and i
01:12:21.020 started to have this theory that you know the gate program was maybe a selection process for mk ultra
01:12:26.420 Which MKUltra, as far as like demons being on sound and things like that, like they're obsessed with frequency and disassociative states and individuals.
01:12:35.300 And, you know, they're really dealing with demonic possession and things of that nature, trauma that allows iniquity to enter a bloodline.
01:12:42.860 So I start to have this theory that I think if the gate program was a selection process and it's a big topic right now, you'll see this going viral on TikTok and it's kind of like exploded.
01:12:56.040 If it was a selection process for MKUltra, what are they selecting for?
01:12:59.700 What are they looking for?
01:13:00.580 So it seems pretty obvious that MKUltra figures out, as far as inducing a state of disassociation, whether it's by trauma or psychedelics or any of these things or a combination of them, some people are more receptive than others.
01:13:14.600 So that's what the GATE program is looking for.
01:13:16.820 Who are these more receptive than others?
01:13:19.560 And I think they're looking for generational iniquity.
01:13:23.200 I think that part of the process of, let's say, even the headphones that you put on that emit different waves or frequencies to see if you can perceive them.
01:13:34.480 I have an idea, and this is just a kind of crappy idea on my behalf, but I think it starts to get some legs the more I look into it, that you said demons travel on sound.
01:13:45.680 Well, I said spirits, so it's all spirits.
01:13:47.600 All spirits.
01:13:48.240 All spirits.
01:13:48.820 Demons but angels.
01:13:49.380 Go ahead.
01:13:49.720 Correct, correct.
01:13:50.160 so um i think they've probably mapped it out i think that certain spirits are on certain
01:13:57.520 sound waves certain frequencies and i think they've mapped it out and i think they have
01:14:02.620 more interest in some than others and i would imagine that the intelligence agencies have
01:14:07.140 more interest in demonic ones than than angelic ones and they can then isolate and show those to
01:14:14.900 And if you can perceive it, I think that that might be a testable way to see if you have generational iniquity, if a spiritual entity has a legal access to your bloodline because of the iniquity that was caused when your ancestors dabbled in witchcraft or occultism or Freemasonry or you name it, that that is a road that is legally developed between that bloodline.
01:14:38.920 And we know as Christians that debt has already been paid.
01:14:41.900 We can call upon the blood of Jesus Christ to break those bonds.
01:14:44.320 But you have to do that.
01:14:45.280 But you have to do that, right.
01:14:47.220 So – but I think there is a perceivable way to identify whether or not that bond has been created between your bloodline.
01:14:54.260 And that is maybe as simple as can you hear this thing?
01:14:57.240 Because if you can perceive this where the vast majority of the public cannot perceive it, there's a high likelihood that that means this entity by whatever goofy name actually has access to you.
01:15:07.080 So in Disclosure Day – sorry to cut you off.
01:15:08.900 Go ahead.
01:15:09.040 Very interesting because, again, another principle that they do nail is this one.
01:15:12.680 um one of the government agents is using uh i don't know some kind of like alien tech it's like
01:15:19.020 a crystal yeah of course it's a crystal to uh astral project or remote view but it's also a
01:15:26.080 form of possession like he can be inside of the person paralyze them and then like project himself
01:15:31.060 across the room and have a conversation with them it comes at a great toll to him but they mentioned
01:15:37.200 that they can't do it to the two protagonists because they have been inflicted with the previous
01:15:42.500 trauma so it's a bit of an inversion to what you're saying yeah but the principle is still
01:15:47.440 there that like they can go out and reach you but not if you've been touched in a certain way and i
01:15:53.520 think that the inversion would be if you're covered if you're filled with the holy spirit you can't be
01:15:58.560 filled with anything else yeah so it's just funny that they understand that principle they invert
01:16:02.820 it that's what they do they invert it that's what they do so i you know i have this theory that i'm
01:16:08.060 developing and i go we've done this show for uh it's almost three years now and i'm a big fan of
01:16:13.640 shows like the confessionals where tony is is having these people come on and they're they're
01:16:17.960 sharing their experiences and through that you get to see some patterns overlap between one person's
01:16:22.260 paranormal testimony and another person's paranormal testimony and to me what becomes
01:16:27.120 very clear listening to those experiences and we do a fair bit of that on our own show as well
01:16:31.160 people will write in and they'll tell us their stories that i believe so much of it can be filed
01:16:36.660 the way under generational iniquity these strange things are happening to you and have happened
01:16:41.060 since childhood because there is something that has access to your bloodline almost always someone
01:16:46.100 will say well actually yeah uh my grandfather was a freemason or my my grandmother was an occultist
01:16:51.040 or something of that nature or a witch or what have you so you also get a bunch of elements
01:16:56.800 where my own stories are not dissimilar from other stories that you would hear on shows like that
01:17:03.180 um sleep paralysis shadow people ancestors who've dabbled in the occult um alien encounters
01:17:10.560 on and on and on and i kind of develop like a framework i found in this particular instance
01:17:16.560 17 elements that were worth mentioning and i go into this group and i say let's play a game
01:17:24.440 these are all alleged gate program experiences now it's a facebook group so there's no way to
01:17:29.220 vet and know whether or not these people are actually but it's not very often that you get
01:17:33.760 that kind of a group to kind of you know run a test on yeah to run a test on so i go at a point
01:17:39.940 for every one of these that apply to you and i go down this list alien abductions ufo sightings
01:17:44.900 ever see a cryptid uh sleep paralysis demonic encounters you know grandma or ancestor was
01:17:50.560 into the occult you're a practitioner of wiccan new age ideas gnostic ideologies boom boom boom
01:17:55.660 17 of these and my theory is that most people that respond will have an overwhelming amount
01:18:03.480 not just like a a quarter or a third i'm saying half or more of these boxes checked off james
01:18:10.260 it was insane number one it resonated with all of them they all loved this thing because it spoke
01:18:17.800 to them they've all had these experiences and i think it's up to like 200 comments now uh over
01:18:24.680 200 people are all saying i've experienced a majority three quarters if not all 17 of these
01:18:32.820 elements and it doesn't prove anything but what it does is it starts to make me go this generational
01:18:40.100 iniquity thing might actually be what they're selecting for like this this element um might be
01:18:48.360 what mk ultra and all these other programs adjacent programs are fascinated with because
01:18:54.160 throughout our research it becomes overwhelmingly obvious that the intelligence agencies there are
01:18:59.860 subsections of them that are dedicated to communicating with the spiritual realm but
01:19:04.540 they're not they're not it's the same way disclosure if these are spiritual entities if
01:19:09.600 everything can be chalked up into demonic and angelic the government's not going to disclose
01:19:14.720 angelic beings to us they're not going to expose us to beings that are still in the grace of god
01:19:20.740 just like these programs i don't think they have the right to they probably they don't have the
01:19:25.320 right to i would agree with that that's that's on god's time you know if there was going to be
01:19:28.920 anything else that they could expose it could be these demonic things and they could repackage
01:19:32.020 them but i think that these these mk ultra programs are not going to be um interacting
01:19:38.340 with entities that are still in the grace of god they're going to be interacting with demonic
01:19:44.160 entities and so i think that that makes a lot of sense as far as the iniquity thing and i think it
01:19:50.640 makes a lot of sense as to why they can perceive these frequencies why they've got these headphones
01:19:54.360 on why that's part of the the fundamental testing ground one of the first things i mean we've all
01:20:00.040 had i remember the the headphones i don't think i went anywhere with it but i remember the headphones
01:20:03.640 um in elementary school i grew up in elizabeth new jersey they put the headphones on me drink
01:20:08.220 the drink the pink drink can you hear this tone can you hear that tone can you hear that tone
01:20:11.800 and i think they've probably got them mapped out and if you could hear these couple of tones okay
01:20:16.360 there might be something there there might be a line we might have access and they're doing it
01:20:21.480 to children too right so it's like before anything we have we're born with a sinful nature but i
01:20:26.280 think that children who are really experiencing you know paralysis and the hat man and all these
01:20:34.000 crazy phenomenon at a young age these things have access to you from that young because of
01:20:39.040 iniquity because of something that is in your bloodline and so that's another thing that by
01:20:44.700 the time you're an adult there are all kinds of transgressions that you could have partaken in
01:20:48.720 that would make you accessible legally accessible by the demonic realm right um but as a child
01:20:55.700 that really narrows it down it's probably iniquity which is why you're experiencing these things
01:21:01.240 no that's a good point i think there's a little bit more to that too so the the gifts of the lord
01:21:07.280 he gives without he doesn't repent of the gifts that he gives to people like me growing up in new
01:21:11.260 orleans like i tell people all the time i have a very distinct advantage because new orleans is
01:21:15.320 a marine kingdom territory so you i was in high in elementary school with kids that would see
01:21:21.640 spirits and hear voices but they thought the kid was crazy and the issue i see is this the kingdom
01:21:29.400 of darkness satan can't really create anything because he's not a creator what he does is he
01:21:33.840 steals yeah he kills and he destroys so what they do is they go out and they test people to see who
01:21:39.280 god has given gifts to so you got seers you got heroes you got people who who have the ability
01:21:44.240 to transport themselves and those are gifts that have been given by the lord you can go find the
01:21:48.160 scriptures in the bible where um there are disciples that were in one place and then they
01:21:52.680 transported themselves to another place there's i think it was elijah eliza's elijah that was
01:21:57.780 that was that knew what his his uh his servant was saying and was doing he was like was i not
01:22:03.520 there with you even though the guy was 500 miles away it's gifts from the lord and what they do is
01:22:08.100 they find those people who have those gifts and then they move them into programs and then either
01:22:13.400 they traumatize them in their programs they buy them from their parents and then they take that
01:22:17.900 gift and then they harness that gift for it because they test they test everybody remember i was tested
01:22:22.460 as a kid for stuff but also then there's a test like if you ever been a kid and you've been to
01:22:26.840 church i never forget i was i got saved at 12 years old um the day i got baptized at 12 i'm
01:22:35.480 sitting in the back of the church and this lady just walks up to me and then another lady walk
01:22:39.760 up and they both put their hands around they're doing like i'm sitting there they're doing like
01:22:42.800 this and the lady says boy she say uh i don't know what the lord has for you but the lord has
01:22:51.120 put a powerful anointing on you and on your life and you can't run from this and i never forget she
01:22:57.180 said no matter what happened you can't run from this because he gonna get you to do what he wants
01:23:01.060 you to do you understand i'm like what this crazy old lady talking about but at 12 years old now
01:23:06.100 mind you i was recruited into a government space program united states space and strategic defense
01:23:11.520 command when i was 19 early 19 years old put into real underground programs to do missiles and
01:23:18.820 whatever i'm not gonna talk about that because i'm not trying to get my head knocked off my shoulder
01:23:21.160 but the point i'm making to you is those are gifts that come from the lord and then they
01:23:26.420 harness those gifts. And they may use the, you know, they may use the corruption of the person's
01:23:32.820 soul by doing stuff to them to get them to where they can infest them with demons. But all that
01:23:39.360 comes from the Lord. All power comes from the Lord. That's, for example, Daniel was talking about the
01:23:44.900 lesser powers of people who practice witchcraft. The temple of a witch is nature, because nature
01:23:50.140 in itself has inherent power from the Lord. So the moon has power, the sun has power, all that's
01:23:55.600 power that's been gifted to the moon, the sun, the waters, everything else. So their whole temple
01:23:59.860 is nature. And so what happens is, is it effective? Yes, because that water has power because God gave
01:24:06.780 it power. That moon has power because the Lord gave it power. The sun has power because the Lord
01:24:11.080 gave the sun power. But then there's the power and authority of Jesus Christ. And so when someone
01:24:16.160 who's been practicing witchcraft actually comes against someone who has the power and authority
01:24:21.260 and dominion of Jesus Christ, then
01:24:23.280 there's this conflict and somebody has to
01:24:25.340 learn a lesson. And typically
01:24:27.080 it's the person who's practicing witchcraft. 0.67
01:24:29.140 Depends on whose altar is the strongest, who prays
01:24:31.180 the most honestly, who has the most sacrifice to their
01:24:33.280 God. But it is what it is. I think
01:24:35.240 at the end of the day...
01:24:37.400 Go ahead, Daniel. Because that reminded me
01:24:39.220 and it's always been perplexing
01:24:40.540 as to whether or not this person was telling the truth, but
01:24:43.120 this lady, Kim Walker from Jesus Culture,
01:24:45.400 it was like a band back
01:24:47.260 like, I don't know, 10 years ago.
01:24:48.540 she had a story where she mentioned um they're they're doing worship in the front and uh i guess
01:24:55.500 like a holy holy spirit filled church and it's like you could you know when you could feel it
01:24:59.140 like it's like oh man something here is like static um and she said somebody in the back
01:25:03.860 was there and the guy started like levitating and the church this church is uh i think it might
01:25:10.940 have been like a hillsong type church or one of these and they're very open with what kind of
01:25:14.900 worship they allow again denominations get weird but uh they're like what we don't allow is
01:25:19.620 levitation so they went they pulled the guy down like you got to come down they kicked him out
01:25:23.820 and i'm left to wonder about that because like you know you know the devil goes to church
01:25:28.100 and is he are these people go in there and feeding off of this and because there is an energy that
01:25:35.880 like you know when the musicians are playing in there ushering in the holy spirit and things are
01:25:40.340 actually moving and you can see people you you can feel it i'm a musician myself so like when
01:25:46.200 you're doing this thing you're like okay there's something here we're playing in a chord there's
01:25:50.080 like there's something going on i don't know what it is and i'm directing it at god but
01:25:53.780 who knows what the piano player is doing who knows what anyone's heart is at
01:25:57.240 is is it possible that like because of the energy just in this room there could be somebody there
01:26:02.180 with a completely different intention just soaking it up like this guy's there doing whatever
01:26:06.660 it depends on who's leading that church so for example um so for example when you
01:26:14.020 there's songs that i'll do when we get off when we get off is i'll i'll drum some angels in
01:26:18.680 there's songs that you can sing that'll drum angels into a room with you immediately they
01:26:22.620 coming like what's going on who we fighting right and so you can drum angels into a room by singing
01:26:28.960 certain songs here's what has to be understood if the angels of the lord are there in that room
01:26:34.640 the demonic entities or spirits that's trying to attach or do something they got they're gonna
01:26:39.860 flee they're gone they're leaving now what a problem comes in is you there's certain churches
01:26:45.060 you can go into and it's imposter worship to the lord and it's all about it's a church full of
01:26:51.000 witches and you'll go there and you'll be like uh because i've been to churches where it's like
01:26:53.860 yo something strange in here this they singing to jesus they praising but this is weird something's 0.55
01:26:59.940 wrong and then you see people looking drained and tired i'm like my holy spirit the holy spirit's
01:27:04.080 like hey uh james hey son this this is not the place for you and then you leave but then you
01:27:10.260 later on find out that that church was ran by a coven of witches and so it's darkness cannot exist
01:27:17.780 in the presence of light so when real light is there darkness it it's not like it's a battle
01:27:22.320 you the dark room the room is dark you turn on a light darkness is gone right so there's no battle
01:27:27.580 between the two and so you just have to discern what is there if there's darkness there then yeah
01:27:33.160 that's possible but it's not going to be that they're praising and worshiping and praising
01:27:36.600 and worshiping now the other thing is hen ken and you got to really talk to like some of the guys
01:27:42.600 i've dealt with out of africa there's been times where people have been praying in africa and
01:27:47.240 they've been singing and praising to the lord and people levitated dude just lift up out the chair
01:27:51.000 and be up in there just just sitting there they're like okay what the hell what's going on but it's
01:27:55.880 a spirit-filled holy spirit-filled church no different than somebody sitting there who has
01:28:00.760 crutches are in a wheelchair they just get up and start running so there's the supernatural aspect
01:28:05.160 of our kingdom and then there's supernatural aspect of the kingdom of darkness and so there's 0.90
01:28:09.320 times when supernatural things will happen in the kingdom of light we're just so unused to them
01:28:14.600 because we don't practice in that and we don't work in it because our faith is to be practiced
01:28:19.000 on a daily basis whereas witches and warlocks they practice their faith so when something really
01:28:24.040 really weird happens it's like oh my god that that's out of bounds but people don't practice
01:28:29.080 their fate that's why i love like my mentors out of africa because i can sit and talk with them
01:28:33.380 be like hey da da da da this is this that no no james go outside and tell the storm there's a
01:28:38.740 tornado coming go outside and tell that tornado you're in covenant with jesus christ and it has
01:28:42.840 no legal authority to come here and if it contends with you then read hebrew 12 to it and explain
01:28:47.600 them that you are on mount zion and you reside on mount zion and i've done it tornado coming walk
01:28:52.680 outside hey excuse me mr tornado i know you're going where you got to go but you can't come over
01:28:56.660 here when you got to go the other way go around go around the whole area where i live in but those
01:29:02.720 things are things that we have to learn by practicing our faith when a christian talks
01:29:06.900 about that that christian is said to be a witch or a sorcerer when a witch or a sorcerer talks
01:29:12.080 about it people like oh my god you know he's so powerful he did it he he controlled the rent in
01:29:17.180 the rain so it's it's a deeper level of walking as a son of god that the lord is trying to take
01:29:25.040 everybody to he's trying to get us to where we just beyond just sitting in a pew yeah and talking
01:29:30.420 to where you actually exercise your dominion over the earth you guys should interview dr francis
01:29:36.260 miles that's my big homie you should check him out francis miles we will thank you for that man
01:29:41.800 because that's a story that i heard for a long time and always sat strange with me didn't know
01:29:47.220 exactly where to put it especially like the like yeah right so you're okay with people falling out
01:29:51.440 and all this stuff but levitations where you draw the line i'm just like okay i don't know
01:29:54.820 but i i this makes a lot more sense and also i think that church might have folded that's one
01:30:00.280 of those that like you know mega churches that kind of go sideways anymore if they are there i
01:30:06.020 mean or at least they're disgraced i do have happened you know a lot of people that i've i've
01:30:10.960 met um the the the status or the the condition of the modern church is such that people will have
01:30:20.360 a remarkable experience and or maybe let's say gleam the power that is perceivable in witchcraft
01:30:27.120 or something like that and there seems to be no foothold in christianity for that no frame of
01:30:34.120 reference in christianity for that um much of what we've done in in the west to christianity
01:30:41.040 is reduce it yep to the to the extent that it's almost laughable it's when people look at the
01:30:46.960 state of the modern church and they they criticize it i mean it is obviously worth explaining to them
01:30:52.740 a criticism of the church is not a criticism of the power of god that's those two things aren't
01:30:57.560 mutually exclusive and in very many ways you know the the some of the churches do deserve ridicule
01:31:04.020 but people will go over let me ask you and they'll have let me finish this thought real quick no no
01:31:08.260 this is important okay all right go ahead do you think do you think that certain songs so you said
01:31:13.240 certain songs bring in an angel uh do you think certain songs bring in demons well can they be
01:31:20.860 can they be like even though like scripturally sound even like uh like you dissect it at the
01:31:26.360 musical level and you go okay musically this makes sense and it's harmonic and it it it matches it's
01:31:31.920 uh it's similar to other ones you think that they could still be like i don't know sigilized or
01:31:36.960 for a lack of better terms like and then sung in other churches and spread or spread that same
01:31:43.820 spirit or like do you understand the question what i'm saying so what you're saying is if from
01:31:48.440 a christian perspective because someone create a song that sounds like a christian song but be
01:31:53.560 inspired from a different spirit that carries a spirit into the church yeah right right because
01:31:58.300 because any the think about it like this the every song is downloaded from a different realm
01:32:04.020 So take rap music, for example, right?
01:32:07.040 My wife and I were watching a video the other day,
01:32:10.460 and it was the song Supersonic.
01:32:11.920 And I was like, babe, look at this song, this rap video, Supersonic,
01:32:14.400 and the girls had on biker tights, but they had clothes and it was covered up. 0.54
01:32:17.520 She was like, yeah, that's before we got into the gangster rap and all the foolishness. 0.99
01:32:20.880 Then I clicked one of the gangster rap videos.
01:32:22.820 As soon as the music hit, boom, I felt the spirit on the music.
01:32:25.940 It was the spirit of murder.
01:32:27.220 And I said, oh, that's wild, okay.
01:32:28.600 And I turned it off because I don't want it in my house.
01:32:30.200 So, yes, music can be packaged with a sound that transmits a spirit and carries a spirit.
01:32:36.200 When it comes to Christian music, some of the most like there's a guy named Nathaniel Basie.
01:32:40.620 If you want to listen to somebody, just go check out Nathaniel Basie.
01:32:43.000 What Nathaniel Basie does is Nathaniel Basie literally opens a portal to heaven when he sings and when he plays and he worships.
01:32:49.900 And that's how you know how powerful music is. 0.75
01:32:52.260 So could it happen in a Christian church?
01:32:54.360 Yes, absolutely.
01:32:55.880 It could happen in a church. Could somebody disguise it and download a song from the kingdom of darkness and then disguise it and put it in?
01:33:03.660 Yeah, absolutely. It can absolutely happen. I told people before, I was 100 percent certain that the COVID vaccine,
01:33:08.860 the concept and idea of COVID vaccines was downloaded from the spirit realm as a hellish disease to kill people.
01:33:15.960 And then later, when people, pastors started talking about it, it was like, yeah, that thing came straight from hell.
01:33:21.140 yeah and everything associated with it came straight from hell so we got to understand that
01:33:25.080 there's this realm that everything exists in that people are pulling things out of yes for themselves
01:33:32.220 all the time yeah one of our our favorite examples of that is uh carlos santana um right and he goes
01:33:39.540 in his time magazine interview might have been uh another one but i'm pretty sure it was time
01:33:43.860 and they're asking him like where he gets his inspiration from and i don't know if the
01:33:47.100 interviewer expected him to say like oh well you know it comes from my roots or my family or the
01:33:52.240 culture i grew up in he goes i get my music from metatron and the interviewer just kind of like
01:33:59.800 that's fascinating and just keeps it going but there's no shortage of that all over the music
01:34:03.960 industry anybody who's being honest and it's not just the music industry right uh it happens in
01:34:08.440 technology as well people will say this idea came to me in a dream um or i downloaded it uh there
01:34:14.660 It was an individual movie.
01:34:16.860 It happens to us, though, as well.
01:34:17.440 Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:34:18.540 A little bit of our story was we were, as we were doing this event,
01:34:23.100 we were about to open up a podcast studio above a coffee shop in the town that ended up kind of,
01:34:28.480 they didn't kick us out, but, you know, the theater did, so we left.
01:34:32.040 And we're like, yeah, this is a great idea.
01:34:34.020 It all falls apart.
01:34:35.420 And maybe four months later, I walk into the coffee shop that I'm in now.
01:34:40.040 I walk and get a coffee.
01:34:41.660 And the thing, too, is this coffee shop is right behind a Dunkin' Donuts.
01:34:45.260 You would never know. 0.99
01:34:45.860 It's the dumbest spot in the world for a coffee shop. 1.00
01:34:47.920 It's the worst place ever. 1.00
01:34:48.620 But it stays open.
01:34:49.540 He does well.
01:34:50.240 Yeah.
01:34:50.820 And I had my Nephilim desk watch shirt. 0.75
01:34:52.700 He's, what do you know about the Nephilim?
01:34:53.920 And we start chatting it up.
01:34:56.060 A month later, he's like, open up a podcast studio here.
01:34:58.300 He's got a Christian library in the back.
01:35:00.020 He's got a Christian library in the back.
01:35:01.000 I had no idea.
01:35:02.180 And it's like, yeah, it's like, I guess, a download of God saying, like, yeah, yeah,
01:35:07.180 a podcast studio and then coffee shop.
01:35:09.740 And we go, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
01:35:11.040 let's do that and we try to force it we try to force it to happen and we're just
01:35:14.680 buttoned up against something and then you you kind of throw your hands up and you go all right
01:35:17.880 well that didn't work out but whatever god wants next and then it just like it happens no no podcast
01:35:22.280 studio in a coffee shop it's so much better when god does things too because the in some ways the
01:35:27.680 amount of effort like look i'm not gonna get it wrong i mean there's there's labor involved right
01:35:32.920 we we painted and decorated and and and put up wallpaper and and did all this stuff in here and
01:35:38.220 there's like real labor like it is work but it happens without resistance without resistance
01:35:44.080 it's it's almost like you couldn't um slow this thing down if you wanted to the momentum of
01:35:49.380 getting everything done we made a studio in three days and and then and then what it does is it's
01:35:55.160 it's remarkable since we're in this christian library um and it's a coffee shop people are
01:36:00.440 coming through here all the time we're having conversations this isn't unlike anything because
01:36:05.680 I wasn't raised Christian and I wasn't in the church.
01:36:09.780 But my life is such right now that all I do, like the people that I talk to in real life,
01:36:14.260 it's all about the truth, the nature of reality, the nature of God, you know, like that's the
01:36:21.320 conversations that we're having on a regular basis here with people we don't even know,
01:36:24.940 with complete strangers in many cases.
01:36:27.540 And I couldn't have planned this.
01:36:29.520 He couldn't have planned this.
01:36:30.320 Like, there's no way.
01:36:31.080 but we had some some unction some idea of like yeah this like this studio in a coffee shop
01:36:39.040 and but in that town it would have been like liberal and it wouldn't have really worked out
01:36:45.120 i'm sure we would have worked but it wouldn't have worked yeah it would have been contentious
01:36:48.140 uh but here it's like if it was left up to us we would have tried to make it work until it just
01:36:52.600 you know because we are we are hard-headed yeah so we would have like kept pushing in this
01:36:57.560 direction but when god wants you to do a thing like it's not without its work it does require
01:37:03.540 labor but it opens up and you just are are almost like in a river and the river is taking you in
01:37:11.080 this direction and and sure like you've got a paddle and you've got to you know get the whatever
01:37:15.720 the raft together and do these things but like the river is taking you and it's so much better
01:37:20.400 when god when god has his hands on a thing like yeah he he does things that um that we can't do
01:37:27.060 that that's you guys gonna be so massive it's ridiculous you guys gonna be massive
01:37:30.840 has anybody ever got ladies and gentlemen we this interview is going long but now we just talking
01:37:36.040 so i'm just gonna let all the talk and just stay guys i'm gonna tell y'all a story just share
01:37:40.300 something personal there was a time period where i came through this spirit this this time of
01:37:44.880 spiritual warfare very intense spiritual warfare and i'm sitting outside smoking a cigar talking
01:37:49.260 to the lord and he says hey james i was like yes my lord he says will you build altars for me i was
01:37:56.420 like sure i'll build an altar for you but what is an altar he says i'm gonna take you on a journey
01:38:00.800 so okay he said get in your car so okay so i get my car i'm driving up veterans boulevard
01:38:04.820 in mettering and he says go get your car clean because your car is dirty okay so i just go to
01:38:10.100 the car wash and at the car wash you got to get out the car and they clean your car so i get and
01:38:14.060 go inside the car wash and i said as soon as i walk in the door i'm like man it feel real good
01:38:18.620 here he says yes look around and tell me what you see so I'm walking around I'm looking around
01:38:23.340 and I see there's this whole wall where they have scriptures on the wall there's crosses there's
01:38:31.360 little bibles that you can take and he says this is what an altar looks like in business
01:38:36.580 he said this is a place where my spirit can interact with people when they're getting their
01:38:42.320 car washed and I'm sitting there like this is crazy sit down so I'm sitting down waiting on
01:38:48.340 my car to get washed and this lady walks up to the counter you can tell she's like you can tell
01:38:53.780 she's burdened she walks up and the young lady behind the counter says hey ma'am how you doing
01:38:58.160 how you feeling but she just chip her in cheer the lady's like well i've been having a bad day
01:39:02.120 you know my son is doing this this this and i'm like okay what's about to happen here and the
01:39:05.980 little girl just touches her hand and says it's gonna be all right we're gonna get your car clean 0.99
01:39:10.200 you're gonna have a much better day because god loves you the lady instantly kind of like moves 1.00
01:39:15.440 her shoulders and then straightens up and smiles. I said, I'm sitting there, bro, and I'm trying not
01:39:20.920 to scream. I'm like, Lord, this is crazy. You trying to tell me? He says, yeah, there are altars
01:39:25.860 that are built unto me, and there are businesses that are altars to Satan. So my car gets washed,
01:39:30.420 right? I'm like, this is exciting. I'm going to do this. He said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
01:39:33.300 before you make the agreement, we need to go. So he said, go get your oil change. I'm like, well,
01:39:37.880 Lord, I ain't got no money to get my oil change. I just spent all my money on this car wash.
01:39:41.080 I'm driving, bring, money comes into my account, ding, I go to the oil change place, go to the oil change place, there's this girl with this bull ring in her nose, she got tattoos all on her neck, I'm talking about like a septum ring, and I'm in it, and it's just, the shop is just dead, it feels void, there's no spirit in there, and I said, okay, what is this?
01:40:01.640 He said, this is a business that has no spirit in it.
01:40:05.400 Yep.
01:40:06.280 He's like, this is just a business.
01:40:07.940 I said, okay.
01:40:08.500 So I get my oil changed.
01:40:09.260 I'm like, all right, well, I'm about to go back home.
01:40:10.560 He said, no, you ain't going home.
01:40:12.020 He said, all right, I want you to go to the mall.
01:40:13.620 I'm like, Lord, I don't go in malls because, you know, crazy.
01:40:15.700 He said, no, I want you to go to the mall.
01:40:17.160 So he said, go in the mall.
01:40:17.940 So I go into the mall.
01:40:19.100 I'm like, well, I'll go to get me a little cigar from the mall
01:40:21.360 because they got a real nice cigar shop.
01:40:22.680 So I'm on my way.
01:40:23.240 No, you're not getting a cigar.
01:40:24.320 Go in this store.
01:40:25.320 And it's one of those skateboarder stores where they sell kind of like skateboardy grunge stuff.
01:40:30.600 So as soon as I walk in the door, boom, it's like I hit a wall.
01:40:34.320 I'm like, what is this?
01:40:35.560 He said, this is an altar to Satan.
01:40:38.100 Do you feel it?
01:40:39.060 And I'm like, I don't want to go in there.
01:40:40.160 He said, no, go in.
01:40:40.900 You're going to be fine.
01:40:41.420 So I walk all the way in.
01:40:42.660 I'm walking around.
01:40:43.460 And it's like something's pressing on my shoulders.
01:40:46.300 And I'm like, this is crazy.
01:40:48.160 He said, do you understand what altars are?
01:40:49.780 I'm like, oh, I understand.
01:40:51.280 He said, build them for me.
01:40:52.380 And so I'm thinking, okay, you know, I'm going to build altars like I'm going to go start a hotel and me and him hash out this deal.
01:40:59.280 We're talking, da-da-da-da.
01:41:00.500 And he said, I want you to know this is a long process because you've got to understand them.
01:41:03.960 And so I'm still going through the process of building altars, but you build people as altars first.
01:41:08.260 Then he lets you build physical altars.
01:41:09.820 What you guys have done is now you've went into business inside an altar to the Lord.
01:41:14.660 And so now you're engaging with people inside of that altar,
01:41:17.740 which means that the level of spiritual protection that's there is even
01:41:22.360 stronger because the business owner serves the Lord.
01:41:24.660 So now it's double businesses serving the Lord inside of you.
01:41:27.820 Hold on, James.
01:41:28.700 Hold on, James.
01:41:29.980 Are you going where I think we're going?
01:41:32.080 Probably not. 1.00
01:41:32.660 Damn. 0.99
01:41:33.700 The guy that emceed Brohimi and Grove, Shane Cashman, 0.99
01:41:38.200 he was a writer for Tim Cass.
01:41:39.540 He wrote a great piece on Kanye and a bunch of other people,
01:41:42.880 but we invited him to come down and emcee,
01:41:46.240 and we put him at a hotel about two miles down the road and this is before we were ever here
01:41:51.660 we didn't even know this place existed no because we were trying to do stuff in in the other town
01:41:55.500 and then we ended up in another venue and uh he was writing out his his set and like what he was
01:42:01.460 going to do and say and how he's going to present the stuff and he came here to this shop the
01:42:07.120 standard coffee shop in uh lady lake and he was sitting at the the black table the big black table
01:42:12.140 in the front there he was there all day writing and the the bizarre part is the hotel we put him
01:42:17.240 in overlooked the town square that has a coffee shop in it and he walked past that another mile
01:42:23.880 past two more coffee shops yeah and then another mile past that got to the dunkin donuts and then
01:42:29.820 went behind it to this place walk right to it yeah sat in here for hours did what he had to do came
01:42:35.540 and then he lit he lit it up he i mean he was tremendous he was fantastic by the way shane
01:42:39.260 cashman is a guy who you know one of his big moments recently was being on a show with a guy
01:42:44.140 who was an occultist and a numerologist and it's a big show he was on tim cast with tim pool
01:42:50.440 and shane cashman all he did for that whole episode was answer in scripture he only read
01:42:57.300 scripture on that show he didn't say anything else that wasn't the word of god you want to
01:43:01.840 talk about it was an incredible moment station on this guy oh that guy was uncomfortable man he was
01:43:06.820 he was not all right um but the reason shane did that is because in the green room leading up to
01:43:12.360 the show the guy was kind of dunking on christians and saying like oh i hope you guys don't have any
01:43:17.460 christians here and you know shane cashman overhears that and then gets on the show only
01:43:21.760 only responds in scripture really fantastic but you know you were saying what this place is built
01:43:27.640 on and and who we went into business with james it's actually incredible because you know we were
01:43:32.620 making allusions to the idea that that last event we we lost some some friendships and some
01:43:37.400 business partnerships and the one guy we were going into business with we were going to go
01:43:42.220 into business with it was going to be like a one-third contractual split you know live events
01:43:48.240 and all this other stuff and it falls apart magnificently to the part point where you
01:43:52.160 couldn't even salvage it no matter how humble you tried to be and apologetic or any of these things
01:43:56.220 there was no way to salvage this thing and uh listeners of the show one guy in particular shout
01:44:01.920 out to scott if he's listening um he showed me in corinthians where it talks about not being
01:44:08.080 yoked with unbelievers and i said wow i was about to talk about being yoked that's a contractual
01:44:14.120 relationship with an individual man i'm getting a little bit i'm trying and um and so i go wow man
01:44:20.860 like it feels like god removed this thing where it wasn't going to work out i wasn't going to
01:44:25.340 remove it and the signs were all there i knew for years but we're just dummies and i i've got
01:44:29.960 really good discernment yeah but this guy um i i like him you know he's a good guy it's just that
01:44:38.100 the signs were there the flags were there but it was my unwillingness to be like i don't know you
01:44:43.360 know i don't know if you've ever had that in your life oh yes yeah i i got the price for it well me
01:44:48.920 too yeah i mean we paid a price during that time um i think if there's a gift that god has given me
01:44:54.380 it's it's dreams i get things in dreams um that are really crazy and and you know this falling
01:45:00.160 apart was so adversarial and it was so volatile and venomous and um you know because one party
01:45:06.560 is saying things that are untrue and they're saying them in a public platform and then you
01:45:10.020 have this desire to set the the record straight and i had this dream that i was on a on a ship
01:45:16.240 on chaotic waters uh it's like a storm and and uh and there was in the dream i thought he was a
01:45:23.300 vampire an ancient vampire but i realized later on this was the adversary this was satan and he
01:45:29.820 was this kind of sleek looking older man um and he was dressed well and there were people who were
01:45:37.080 sharing in this vampirism i think maybe that's why the dream did vampire because they're sharing in
01:45:41.640 the spirit with him um and there's like a floozy kind of woman and there's like you know that's
01:45:47.400 just the one that really stuck out to me i can't remember the other characters i just knew that
01:45:50.260 they were sharing in this spirit and some of them are tumbling overboard into the chaotic waters
01:45:55.960 and and i know about this ancient vampire that this is where he's going to and and i also am aware
01:46:03.900 that he's kind of almost remorseful that he knows that he is bringing people with him into
01:46:13.040 into that abyss um but he's doing it anyway and he's also upset that i won't share in that spirit
01:46:21.840 with him and um and that's it you know it's a really straightforward dream it's it's choppy
01:46:28.220 crazy waters the ocean looks black the sky is black there's a storm these people are tumbling
01:46:33.140 overboard but i'm not doing that i'm not sharing in this spirit with him and i realize like i have
01:46:38.580 an opportunity to share in a spirit and it is it feels like vindication it feels like no no i'm
01:46:43.760 correct you're spreading false information and i can get whipped up in this spirit of resentment
01:46:48.580 and anger and and and rage and all these things i choose not to and instead i i apologize i try
01:46:55.520 to reconcile it doesn't work out but man after that all falls apart i mean we we do go into
01:47:01.820 business the the guy who owns this shop his name is matt heppner he does a show um that i guess is
01:47:08.960 on our network it's called uh straight bible i don't think you could actually see it straight
01:47:12.780 bible is right over here um and it's just it's all scripture it's all scripture and he's been
01:47:18.200 another tremendous help in my walk yeah that show that show that uh we were doing a show with the
01:47:24.060 guy that left and we had another comedy show and it was like these were things that i really enjoyed
01:47:28.880 doing and it was like stripped away from me in a day yeah in a day gone it was crazy like we even
01:47:34.060 did an episode and then like right after that was it was it was insane the way it fell apart but
01:47:38.760 it was it was kind of like restored to me in a way because now uh matt heppner the guy he's he's
01:47:44.760 also a great orator and he's a great fantastic he's like sharp as sharp as attack on the bible
01:47:49.940 and he has a spirit like he has a real heart for for bringing this and he's good at it and i said
01:47:55.040 you know we'll develop let's develop a show i mean if you want to do it you're you're just a
01:47:58.760 coffee guy but you want to try he's bringing the gospel you get a coffee and he's bringing you the
01:48:03.140 word of god while you're getting a coffee you know what i mean like that's awesome we get to do this
01:48:07.020 thing now the show's called straight bible so another plug uh straight bible go check that out
01:48:11.200 because that's like that's something that i'm building that like i think is like that's it's
01:48:15.500 so important it's so important i get to sit in i sit on it and i get to like put my talents of like
01:48:21.020 i'm a graphic designer and i like to uh i like to put things together so i get to produce this show
01:48:26.300 and also participate like when when i'm needed but he's leading the study we also get to present it
01:48:32.020 to we've accumulated these people who who love what we do and who believe in us and they and
01:48:37.600 they've been around since the beginning and i've been struggling because i've not been raised
01:48:41.400 christian and i'm my walk is new and i'm still trying to understand scripture and and how do i
01:48:46.000 provide this for these people i can only do whatever's true we have a specific skill set
01:48:51.260 a very specific skill set yeah but now because of that because of his addition to this because of
01:48:56.980 of being yoked with him not only do we have the physical thing that is this studio in this
01:49:01.860 unbelievable place that god has facilitated but now we get to bring this not just for ourselves
01:49:07.920 but to all these people who have supported us and been here since the beginning um i mean the the
01:49:13.640 communities come together and they're doing weekly Bible studies independent of us. We have nothing
01:49:18.320 to do with it. The fan base is getting together and doing Bible studies on their own. Um, and
01:49:23.540 it's like, it's, it's injected scripture straight into the heart of everything that we're doing.
01:49:29.160 And God first removed this thing that like, it hurt James. It hurt like hell to have that
01:49:35.860 happen in the way that it did. And only a few months later, God did this and, and I, I got it.
01:49:43.640 You know what I mean? Like, I think if there are times where I listen well, and it was like, okay, don't be yoked with unbelievers. You know, what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? Okay, okay. And, and also don't share in this spirit of, of anger and vengeance. Vengeance isn't mine. Like, that's, that's got nothing to do with me. Forgive and move on. 1.00
01:50:04.500 And I think, like, I don't know if we talked about this earlier, right?
01:50:07.900 But, yeah, you forgive, and now it allows for this thing to happen.
01:50:12.840 You know, so for me, it was like I had my moments where I think God was talking to me.
01:50:17.560 No, David was actually very good on this.
01:50:19.000 I missed it the first time, and God's graceful, so he gave me.
01:50:22.600 This is the second go around, and I'm like, okay, yeah, I got it.
01:50:25.480 I got it this time.
01:50:26.040 Like, now I understand. 1.00
01:50:27.060 I'm stupid. 0.99
01:50:27.500 This is how I learned, though. 1.00
01:50:28.660 Like, I got to do the mistake.
01:50:30.560 David, you got it right the first time we had an argument about it.
01:50:33.260 It was crazy.
01:50:33.880 I was getting this notion to go and talk to this guy.
01:50:38.060 He still lived in the area, and I was going to go talk to him.
01:50:40.940 And it was, like, something that just kept – it was just an intrusive thought.
01:50:44.880 And some intrusive thoughts are bad, right?
01:50:46.560 Like somebody cuts you off in traffic, you have a bunch of intrusive thoughts.
01:50:49.160 This one was go and talk to him.
01:50:51.860 Get a gift.
01:50:52.840 Bring a gift.
01:50:53.360 Go to his door.
01:50:54.540 He doesn't live that far.
01:50:55.780 He moved since then.
01:50:56.680 But, like, go and do this.
01:50:58.680 And I was so undecisive about it.
01:51:02.120 And then one day I'm sitting at a red light with my wife and I'm going, I got to go talk to this guy.
01:51:08.760 And she's like, what?
01:51:09.380 And I go, I don't know how to explain it to you, but it's just like keeps getting put on my heart, my mind to go talk to this guy.
01:51:14.700 As I'm saying this, he pulls up at the opposing light.
01:51:20.520 And I see him and I go, this is unbelievable.
01:51:23.660 And instead of listening, and this is my fault, too, I sought counsel.
01:51:29.340 I sought counsel in top.
01:51:31.240 I sought counsel in the pastor, and I knew it.
01:51:35.140 I knew what this was.
01:51:36.540 I knew what I should have done.
01:51:37.840 And then because of that, I think I suffered some spiritual attacks because of disobedience.
01:51:42.960 And I don't know if that was at the hand of God or if it was because of that disobedience you open yourself up.
01:51:48.500 There is now this drop of iniquity, and I had to repent for that in order to get it to stop.
01:51:53.300 My life has been, in some ways, I'm kind of blessed when my iniquity comes about.
01:51:59.740 It is spooky as hell.
01:52:01.900 So it's very easy to see.
01:52:04.060 And I knew something was happening that came out of nowhere and was kind of getting worse.
01:52:10.840 And I repented.
01:52:12.300 I went through a deliverance session.
01:52:14.160 It stopped on a dime.
01:52:15.800 It was all very, very, very, very obvious to me.
01:52:18.820 um but uh you know eventually i i reached out i did a sheepish kind of thing where i reached out
01:52:26.080 on the phone and you know that was never reciprocated so i think i missed an opportunity
01:52:30.360 there um but yeah i mean this is this has been instrumental that moment that we're talking about
01:52:36.400 losing that friendship and then losing that business and then starting up here and getting
01:52:40.800 yoked with matt and all of these things have been uh when you zoom out very very clear god has his
01:52:47.160 hands on this and i would say that the only time it runs into a hiccup is when we're hard-headed
01:52:52.600 and disobedient that's for everybody bro that that's for me it's it's a thousand times worse
01:52:58.100 than that for me he'll say hey james do this if i don't even when he says do it i just be like okay
01:53:02.180 it has to make no sense it could be because the opposite is you don't do it you know you're getting
01:53:08.760 ramsat like i know i done punched satan in the throat i done poked him in his eyes i'm like nah
01:53:13.540 whatever you say do let me just do it because i don't want to leave give satan no legal ground
01:53:18.800 to touch me yeah family and thing like that and so um but that's how we learn and he knows that's
01:53:23.600 how we learn he learned we learn by being hard-headed he knows that we're hard-headed
01:53:26.960 and we're prideful and and that's how it works all right guys we've been going for two hours man
01:53:31.500 i gotta tell you whoa i'm just gonna keep it real i do a lot of interviews and i don't really enjoy
01:53:36.700 i stopped doing i did hundreds of interviews over my time i stopped doing interviews i didn't enjoy
01:53:41.020 talking to people i really enjoyed hanging out with this is a pleasure james this is a pleasure
01:53:45.200 awesome time hanging out man now let's do the shameless plug where you talk about everything
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01:55:21.300 know it's uh it's always an interesting experience when people do but we're not afraid of that uh
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01:55:31.260 are interested to check out straight bible that's something that uh we've been working on really
01:55:35.040 hard it's grown exponentially in just a short time that it's been like moving and i think it
01:55:39.360 actually like it provides a really good resource it does it provides one for me you know in the
01:55:44.260 in the times where i we had one here we had the the whole uh coffee shop was packed out there was
01:55:49.020 like a hundred people here and we did a live bible study and it was incredible it was incredible it 0.97
01:55:54.020 was all about um you know the the fool and the wise man the fool building is uh his thing and 0.96
01:56:00.420 the wise man building his podcast studio in leesburg the wise man building it in the coffee 0.90
01:56:05.640 shop on a foundation of jesus christ yeah so um you know that was a really cool episode but yeah
01:56:10.580 guys please uh come by and see us listen to the show let us know what you think and and come be
01:56:15.320 a part of the uh community thank you james thank you james it was a pleasure man listen guys i'm
01:56:21.340 doing you know i don't really give endorsements of stuff that you should listen to i'm telling you
01:56:25.420 based on this conversation man you should go take a listen and subscribe and follow these guys
01:56:29.920 There's a lot of people come on and they talk about Jesus and they act like they use Jesus kind of as a net to catch people.
01:56:37.000 The name of Jesus is a net to catch people.
01:56:39.060 And then they dump him in this filthy pond.
01:56:41.140 And it's like you get, ooh, this guy's believing Jesus.
01:56:43.320 Then they dump you in the pond of Nephilim or they dump you in the pond of UFOs or they dump you in the pond of demons.
01:56:48.120 This is not what's going on right here, ladies and gentlemen.
01:56:50.140 So I'm going to ask that you go ahead and show them some support, show them some love, and head on over and subscribe and then follow their podcast.
01:56:55.800 And I'm telling you, every time I've ever said this about people, it happened.
01:56:59.620 Remember I told you guys about Tony Merkel 10 years ago when Tony Merkel came?
01:57:03.140 I said, Tony's going to blow up and be a big podcast.
01:57:05.880 Tony blew up to be a very big podcast.
01:57:08.400 You know, I was one of his earliest guests on his shows.
01:57:10.440 He was like, man, you know, every time I've ever said this, it's come to pass because there's certain anointings that the Lord put on people and you can see him.
01:57:17.880 So get in board, get on board now early while you can.
01:57:21.040 So you can be an OG with them when they get to where they're going.
01:57:24.320 You don't want to be the people that come on later on and ride the train late.
01:57:28.480 All right, ladies and gentlemen, the one and only James Williams,
01:57:30.280 Dark Waters, and I'm out of here.
01:57:31.460 Thank you.