00:03:57.540Ed Mabry is going to be there. Dr. Heather Lynn, Hidden in Plain Sight, Paranoid American, Chaney, Dona is going to be there.
00:04:04.080Brian of Demon Eracers, Jake and Jeremiah of Skiba News Network, Laura Baker, Dave of Isaac's Army, Bill and Ted of the Phone Booth Podcast.
00:04:12.840The list goes on and on. And we also have Owen Benjamin, which was formerly a secret.
00:04:17.500Now it's out in the open. So go and get your tickets. If you want to see Big Bear, he's going to be there.
00:04:21.160It's going to be a lot of fun. It'll be a live interview with Owen Benjamin.
00:04:24.540it's gonna be fun i think uh oh yeah the fog machine will also be making an appearance uh
00:04:28.640final oh wait no we're not allowed to fuck i looked into the fine print of the thing it was
00:04:32.160like absolutely absolutely no fog yeah you asked them about sparklers you're like erica kirk style
00:04:36.060and they were like they said no you can't do that i really did want to do that um raven where did
00:04:40.240you get that shirt i love this shirt i've had this shirt for a grip um oh yeah i've seen that
00:04:44.000yeah there's a thousand episodes of this shirt they say a multitude a multitude of times and so
00:04:48.540um but thank you for the shirt compliments i'm always open he goes through seasons with shirts
00:04:52.960if you notice there'll be the same shirt like four times what's that beige one the beige one
00:04:56.880he wears a lot a lot with the car on it but then it just goes away blue it's blue and it has the
00:05:00.700car on it no no there's a beige one that goes like every other episode for two weeks and then
00:05:05.860it's gone for a month there's a a gray one with some muay thai stuff on it there's a blue one
00:05:11.420with a mustang on it um i like that one yeah i like that one too uh and there's a couple of them
00:05:17.200i have like five good shirts i think so something like that no no no you have way more than five
00:05:21.500You guys have female amount of outfits
00:05:49.500um so should we talk about anything before we get into it guys go and check out our episode
00:05:55.140that we did yesterday with uh james of dark water that go i heard a lot about it was a banger
00:06:00.940that's a dude that uh wasn't on my radar and then he reached out to us to have us on the show
00:06:06.760and i got a really good feeling about it and when we ended up talking to him i loved him i loved him
00:06:11.760we posted it yesterday in the patreon everybody else loved him fantastic dude only does what the
00:06:16.800lord tells him to do seems really really locked in really really locked in he's the guy that if
00:06:22.220anyone was wondering he brought a battle axe to alex jones show how crazy is that yeah that went
00:06:27.140viral and i saw that and i i recognized but i didn't put again i didn't put it together like
00:06:31.580the leo zagami thing oh you didn't put that together either yeah yeah because our life is
00:06:35.380just like a constant mix of like craziness happening at all times we just go wherever
00:06:40.540we're supposed to go whenever we're supposed to go there so are you surprised that it went so well
00:06:44.140with this gentleman no i wasn't surprised at all because that's what we do um what i was surprised
00:06:48.400about is you know me i don't give my phone number out like i don't talk to people uh i actually have
00:06:53.680been texting him i got off a 45 minute phone call with him he's basically my new best friend
00:06:57.360so guys go and check out james williams of dark waters he's an og he's been around for a long
00:07:03.920time it's not my i believe he is one of the og dog man guys um so heavy and decryptids and and
00:07:11.620you know he apparently has some experience he said he's planned out three different parts of
00:07:16.220three different shows with us hell yeah let's go things that he's gonna cover so i like i'm like
00:07:20.620all right yeah let's do this guy i'm about it let me tell you uh we we talked quite a bit about uh
00:07:25.820you think he just recognized real you think real recognized real and he's just like yo i didn't
00:07:29.380know these guys before and now they're on my radar like i want to mess with these well the way it's
00:07:33.160it's funny the way it happened was i sit down and i go hey david are we going on his show or is he
00:07:39.420comment on ours because the email is not very explicit and you know like when we're making we
00:07:43.480have to make the stream we have to put like all the stuff the thumbnails and dave's like i don't
00:07:47.360know it was like obscure like we're dealing with this book i think we the booker explicitly said
00:07:53.980we would be honored to host you and then he sent us an information packet for him yeah yeah which
00:07:58.800typically doesn't happen unless somebody's going to appear on your show it looks like it looks like
00:08:01.860i'm making a thumbnail for you now or doing descriptions for you so i'm like i'm confused
00:08:05.480and i have done nothing i've done absolutely nothing yeah like what's going on here so it's
00:08:10.160kind of like i don't know who he is he doesn't know who we are and it turns out like all right
00:08:14.560yeah we'll host you so they they they host us and before the chat i really love he was honest too
00:08:19.860before the chat he said the same thing that we said i think we said it to steven but steven didn't
00:08:23.800get it what's that what we're like like when we're talking about we said it to doc too we're like
00:08:28.540with interviews you're like interviews you know yeah i gotta talk to this guy this guy's gonna
00:08:33.840tell me about dispensation whatever he's gonna tell us about yeah dude he expressed being kind
00:08:39.880of sick and tired of interviews i'm not i'm not like sick and tired he said bored of and it's
00:08:43.760just like yeah it gets boring it gets monotonous what do you mean so like the main play is just
00:08:47.940do your thing whatever your thing is put that out as opposed to that's what he's been doing yeah but
00:08:52.560then there is times there are times where you need to step out of your own little game that
00:08:57.500you're playing in and talk to other people yeah but oftentimes like the more and more we do this
00:09:01.960show especially the more grounded we become in the bible we're like this was a little bit of a
00:09:05.680waste of time sure you know and i don't want to do when we were going on tinfoil hat we had this
00:09:10.880discussion about like what are we going to present and i'm like i hate that notion what are we
00:09:14.700interesting because yeah what well that audience apparently did not like that uh that they hate us
00:09:20.420over there on tinfoil hat doesn't matter we're still on mount crushmore sensitive to the comments
00:09:24.260no no i don't care i don't care what they think i'm just saying what they think but i don't like
00:09:31.360listen dude if i cared what what anybody thought they thought i wouldn't be sitting here yeah right
00:09:36.460now and also they wouldn't be sitting there watching why did you make this comment about
00:09:39.380like what the people thought when you went because it's an interesting marker okay so like i sent you
00:09:44.480a message i said do you see this it's an interesting marker is it true is it not true that's up to you
00:09:49.080to believe it but look at it and then know whether to discard it or change your behavior in the future
00:09:53.680is the marker like what happened like okay so the marker is me and david went on tinfoil hat yeah we
00:09:58.200did a little jokey jokey for the first 20 30 minutes and then we kind of gave our testimony
00:10:02.880which somebody there was a i saw a fair comment that said these guys only talk about the same
00:10:07.060thing i was like well this was like the episode where we wanted to bring this yeah rather than
00:10:11.360something else and uh some people were just like there was another a couple of comments were like
00:10:16.480these guys are just a bunch of grifters uh making it up isn't it made up all this making it up and
00:10:22.000then then it goes along to they extrapolate sometimes and they'll go yeah man they should
00:10:26.940start doubting the stuff with jesus and i was like okay got you now i know where you're coming
00:10:30.500from so i now i know this comment is based in bullshit yeah or based in your uh how do you
00:10:36.500determine that though how do you because if you hate jesus and we're talking about jesus and
00:10:42.480we're pointing directly at him on a show that not many people go and do that people go on there and
00:10:48.020they present things yeah information we said we don't care balls on the table we're going to
00:10:53.720present our testimony in a way and we're also going to point right at jesus unabashedly so the
00:11:00.020people that don't like that don't like that yeah and that's fine that's the main thing that i i want
00:11:05.740to do so you know going back to where this the original idea was like what are we going to
00:11:10.100present which is such a false thing at least for me it's not in my spirit to be like well i'd better
00:11:16.220go and find something worth researching and concoct this entire theory and go and present
00:11:20.500it to somebody like that's bullshit that's not what i do on this show i try to um be aware of
00:11:26.580when i'm being led to something and if something organically happens something genuinely happens
00:11:31.860if i feel like god led me to something and showed me something i'm gonna talk about that oh mind
00:11:35.820tripping says i listened to the tinfoil hat episode it's more of an actual introduction of you guys
00:11:39.760instead of thrown into when you first went on yeah that's that's kind of how it went most people go
00:11:44.620on there and they're like uh they're like where are you from what do you do okay what are you
00:11:49.080bringing and then what do you bring information yeah and the information is about something that
00:11:52.720happened in 1947 but it's not about me and david and our show and what we're doing that's the
00:11:58.340context of straight bible it's like uh the interview sessions is specifically like yeah
00:12:02.500tell your story like whatever your content is anybody who watches you knows your content but
00:12:06.460who are you what's your story well it's not that's not the platform spliffy said people like to
00:12:11.580present around jesus on tinfoil hat and that is kind of what they do it's like jesus is a footnote
00:12:17.460and they'll mention things that are like biblically adjacent but i understand that
00:12:22.380technique when you're talking to because you have to understand the fan base of temple hat as well
00:12:27.040they're the swarm and i love those guys oh yeah but not all of them are like uh biblically based
00:12:33.480or like are any other like is that yeah that's their context is the bible i'm a fan of it yeah
00:12:40.240so here we are i know but i'm just saying like temple hat does like bible content sometimes
00:12:44.700they'll have i mean sam will have everybody on and some people will touch i think we were probably
00:12:49.580we probably went the hardest in the paint especially towards the end there we're talking
00:12:53.420about god putting his hands on things and yeah not just bible stuff but like yeah when we were
00:12:58.320saying like unabashed i think i said something like uh this is the direction that i was headed
00:13:04.020in every time i've done this thing and listened to god and went in that direction it's bore good
00:13:08.640good fruit and i'm not going to stop doing that yeah that's a hard testimony like not hard but
00:13:15.600like definitive yeah it's a lot of the same thing i haven't said like uh oh you know following god
00:13:21.740is a great thing maybe people should try it i'm like no i've fucking done it yeah and i'm gonna
00:13:26.140keep doing it yeah and here's what it's bore out so it's it's a it's a bit of i guess you call it
00:13:31.700a brave statement especially for the uh the venue the venue's not for that it's not for interviews
00:13:37.160in general it's not to say that's what sam is trying to keep away either it's just like people
00:13:42.060just the way it goes it's the way it goes yeah so yeah they want to flex but that's where the
00:13:45.660comments got funny where you were like even aware of the con i've just never known you'd even be
00:13:49.500like aware of the comment i see them but i don't pay attention to them but like i again i i see
00:13:54.800what they say and then if my behavior needs to be modified if the criticism is valid then i'll take
00:14:01.880it which is hard to do on the internet somebody said that you talk too much and i was like they
00:14:05.740definitely think you are me so i just skipped that like okay i talk too much i know i don't
00:14:09.500talk too much it's me that they're talking about i'm pretty sure they just mince the names they
00:14:13.420said that we talked too much on the uh the james episode yeah and we're like well he interviewed
00:14:18.700i talk too much every episode though that's something that i just i simply can't change
00:14:21.940but the contrast i thought you guys crushed talking too much well being being on tinfoil hat
00:14:27.100and i guess their audience is probably getting sick of us a lot of them are haters whatever
00:14:30.660doesn't matter um and then being on james show and like every comment is like this was fantastic
00:14:36.480and we didn't come there to present you guys are all looking in the comments now yeah i'm interested
00:14:41.840to see like did we do well for this guy that's that's really did we do well for this guy like
00:14:46.880did did his audience enjoy it is this something that he's going to um uh benefit from yeah he
00:14:52.520did you a solid you're like i want to do it i want to make sure that we're doing good by him
00:14:55.720and overwhelmingly everybody loved it and i'm like we didn't even go on there to talk about
00:15:00.020anything except for god except for god like that's the main thing and i don't want to talk
00:15:04.060about all i know you guys i'm guessing that like 30 seconds before you went on his show you had no
00:15:08.600clue what you were no we had no idea you guys too well like that's exactly how we spoke with
00:15:12.720him beforehand and we're like what do you want to talk he wanted to create like an outline for
00:15:16.000what we were gonna you know and i don't even know if we got to we had some fun gravy i thought like
00:15:19.660the disclosure day stuff maybe we'll talk about it on our show a little bit later but that was
00:15:23.540very matt you'd probably find it a little bit interesting as well like oh disclosure day or
00:15:27.940the the episode itself well the disclosure day idea the shenanigans that were pulled and the
00:15:32.400slipperiness of hollywood and the jewish director that is called steven spielberg we very much
00:15:37.320talked about effectively replacing one tall white dude with another tall white dude but you're like
00:15:42.520the better tall white dude yeah yeah you're our tall wait wait so how did the movie come back to
00:15:48.620the jews like what is the spielberg spielberger witz spielberg stein steven spielberg is a jew
00:15:54.900yeah and i just find it interesting that so the long and short of what i'm what i presented in a
00:15:59.920way is that the alien phenomenon and uh all of the facts around it the facts were all nailed
00:16:06.360like they did a great job they even did like recreations of uh different alien encounters
00:16:11.240that were like you can tell it wasn't grainy footage because they like re-shot it and all
00:16:15.480the lore all the mk ultra stuff the telepathy all all that stuff is great yeah where he missed was
00:16:21.680i mean they quoted the bible and they actually misquoted it grossly misquoted what they quote
00:16:26.580they quoted genesis 1 26 27 where it says uh god's talking to i guess he's talking to either
00:16:32.980maybe he's jesus and the holy spirit maybe he's talking to himself let us create man in our image
00:16:37.400yeah yeah and then and give him dominion over uh you know everything the beast of the earth and all
00:16:42.600stuff like that yeah the earth they said uh the quote that they said was that god created a supreme
00:16:48.780be he created man supreme the supreme being on earth or he's the supreme creation on earth and
00:16:55.300it's like no no it's never like that well there is that that's not it's not worded like that but
00:16:59.660that's not wrong that's not a wrong statement it's an incorrect statement wait we just read it where
00:17:04.780uh in ephesians 2 where it said that um we are his workmanship and it's that greek word poema
00:17:11.140which means like his masterpiece like like what else on the earth is greater than man on no no so
00:17:16.280the uh i i say that the the multiplier word there would be on earth now she's justifying
00:17:24.500outer space life and and the previous statement before that in the conversation was i'll read
00:17:30.940well there's a discussion about that because it's like has man been given dominion over outer space
00:17:36.140like if the dude's saying we're going to go take over the moon or we're going to go take over
00:17:39.880okay i'll read this to you though and this is the context that you have to view that
00:17:43.620i'll read both quotes so the first one is uh the ex-nun is speaking to the main protagonist who
00:17:52.700wants to do alien disclosure and she goes do you think it's a good idea she was like a catholic
00:17:56.900nun she was an ex-catholic she's out she's out she's dating this guy they're on the run okay um
00:18:02.120but she asked him after he shows her some of the stuff she says do you think it's a good idea
00:18:06.920because uh proving the existence of aliens would disrupt a social order built on belief
00:18:13.300of a supreme being by showing them actual supreme beings so supreme being being the word lower case
00:18:19.700g gods uh-huh um then later on a nun speaks to her and she's having this doubt with her faith
00:18:27.040and she says genesis says that we're his supreme creation and she goes ah genesis says we're his
00:18:32.500supreme creation on earth so now we're getting to this idea of supreme being supreme creation
00:18:38.300and there's like this weird line drawn where they're trying to uh they're trying to say that
00:18:45.340the aliens now are standing alongside god as supreme beings and then also they're pointing
00:18:51.200it to outer space and they're saying no no we're just on earth it's just an intrigue well that's
00:18:55.560an intriguing discussion because as you study that out it does look like i mean it's obviously
00:18:59.920not that language like we're not referred to as supreme beings in any way but like but like we
00:19:04.160are the pinnacle of the creation sure that like man i just don't think that there's anything
00:19:08.480created outside of earth i don't think it's out i don't think it's in outer space in these planets
00:19:13.160i think it's all interdimensional no such thing as mars then is that like a flat earth thing or
00:19:17.480mars isn't real or saturn get with the program dude i don't know what the things are it's there
00:19:22.520is there anything alive on it oh i see yeah yeah so that's where i'm at too yeah i don't i don't
00:19:27.080know if there is either but mars is there i think mars is there wait wait i don't know it could
00:19:31.640also be a light i don't know what i don't know what this stuff is we're looking at it from
00:19:34.880however many miles away through a telescope like all right right right it's just an interesting
00:19:40.040discussion because we're saying we're going outer space and it's like has man been given dominion
00:19:43.740of outer space he's been given dominion over earth it's an interesting discussion that's all
00:19:47.160go ahead i don't know i'm just mad you keep making up shit about mars and outer space
00:19:50.900okay can you show us the guy with the bear dude everybody wants to see that you're giving us a
00:19:54.820little like hints and clues i love this guy i've been putting this up on the screen the whole time
00:19:58.680you guys have been talking to bro i don't know why but we just found this in our inbox i guess
00:20:03.900leo zagami intended for us to use it uh you know as like did he send that to us yeah yeah this is
00:20:08.820the greatest fucking picture i've ever seen in my life this is like that this guy is maybe the
00:20:13.380coolest fucking guy you net said evil clint he does like remember when i made clint that guy with
00:20:18.960the cowl and the cape yeah this guy just feels like if you were in italy with this dude he would
00:20:23.460take you like really good italian restaurants i feel like he would take me to the vatican and
00:20:27.800tell me some secrets on the rooftop yeah this guy is so cool bro i love this dude um you know
00:20:33.300what's funny is how much the alberino thing keeps coming up in all of our discussions so obviously
00:20:37.460it came up with with zagami and it came up yesterday with um i thought you guys dropped it
00:20:42.880uh we did drop it but it keeps just it's picking us up can't quit him can't quit him yeah so daddy
00:20:48.700is in in hot water again what did you think uh what do you think james though when you called
00:20:53.740him daddy we laughed he mentioned he mentioned albarino and and we go oh yeah daddy and he was
00:20:58.640kind of like huh i know the bible says you call no man daddy but
00:21:02.900so he's buddies with albarino he doesn't like him at all i think he called him a wanker uh
00:21:10.660i think he said he serves a different kingdom he serves a different kingdom there's only two
00:21:13.880kingdoms yesterday said two kingdoms and uh he's not serving the kingdom of the lord and so yeah
00:21:20.200he did say that um and i don't know how much i i want to give away but i did uh have some follow
00:21:26.560up what do you think about that man what do you think about that long exasperated side i it was
00:21:32.900it's another discussion that we've had before where i mean like with derrick gilbert like body
00:21:37.140of christ and i was like i must not be part of this body no you're making that that's two totally
00:21:42.220different things dude yeah simulacra time says he said he's don't think it is who daddy yeah he
00:21:48.200told us possessed that that's what james said yesterday that's what james said i really fucking
00:21:53.740like james uh i really do dude that is a it's a cool guy man i feel bad about that i don't want
00:21:59.900to say he's like was he green the whole episode you recorded with him i was like listen he probably
00:22:05.400has bad lighting and like uh and he was also like hung over and yeah i don't know and stuff or you
00:22:10.680know he's demonically oppressed uh he's doing witchcraft how come he's looking down the whole
00:22:15.100time because he's reading from his book of spells that is on his lap the entire time he's got this
00:22:20.900what was he saying though just that alberino has the opportunity to preach christ and is kind of
00:22:25.280doing just more of the alien thing because i know that's been brought up against him before he's
00:22:29.500saying that he's he's no longer preaching the gospel he's no longer christ-centric instead he
00:22:34.220is idolizing he's made idols out of these fallen angels and nephilim uh you know aliens and things
00:22:39.980like that which is a lot of our gripe that is true though it's a lot of our gripe but a lot of people
00:22:44.780have done that in a way that true like where you start to you start to look at uh the bible and
00:22:50.420then you get extra biblical yeah and then from there then you're like in some kabbalistic stuff
00:22:54.520then you're in the occult plus and then jesus starts to change he's like well maybe it's got
00:22:58.120to do with the vertebrae of like um kind of being like desperate for content is that like a like the
00:23:04.260danger is like you got to be on the cutting edge of the content well being desperate for content
00:23:08.860is a trap i mean you're you're correct in that and i think that we have avoided that trap uh there's
00:23:13.980a lot of people that will try and they'll do a bunch of crazy research and they'll try to present
00:23:18.460something, present something. And then that becomes a trap. We don't care about the audience.
00:23:21.980We don't care about presenting something. We just come on the show and have fun. And I ask
00:23:25.620Holy Spirit to move us. And sometimes something really amazing happens. And it's got really
00:23:30.400little to do with us. I think writing a book is a trap. That's a bit of a trap. What do you mean?
00:23:35.320Writing a book about a theory specifically that you need to then hold on to, because now
00:23:40.400if that's published and it becomes number one best time seller or whatever it is
00:23:44.340that's your word oh yeah you're saying that uh birthright not just birthright uh how about like
00:23:51.080uh paul stops i like paul stops but paul stops is the nephilim are clowns guys oh yeah yeah and
00:23:55.900then that becomes like that's your thing for for you know after a certain amount of time people
00:24:01.080hitting you up to come and talk about the same shit over and over again it's probably like damn
00:24:04.500they keep on hitting up ed they're like still doesn't debate me on the little season and he's
00:24:08.100like i only did like a little bit about that but he wrote a book on it and now you're that guy
00:24:13.140you know what i mean because you wrote a book on it but that's not his thing isn't that like
00:24:16.620denominations fall into that too man they they rally around like one specific truth and they're
00:24:22.000all about that and then yeah what if you keep reading the bible and you start coming to different
00:24:26.660conclusions as you tie other passages together you go you know what i used to think this but
00:24:30.220now i think this but if you have a book locked into that denomination already and you have to
00:24:33.980told that if you have a book where you wrote in black and white what you thought yeah you can't
00:24:39.200say i think something else 100 come back and say yeah i thought that oh you can we can i i do i
00:24:44.720can yeah you can everybody can everybody can but will everybody if you have an ego if you have pride
00:24:50.880and if you're scared to be i guess taken as like an unserious person yeah because other people will
00:24:55.700go well look at what you said here and i like they'll they'll do that to me look at what you
00:24:59.540said here and i'm like i don't think that anymore yeah that's why you gotta stay based in truth man
00:25:03.720Yeah, I don't think that anymore. So what? That's why the only time I've ever had any interest in writing a book, which I'm lazy and undisciplined and probably won't do it, but is about my own testimony. It's my own testimony. It's my experience. That's not something that is, you know, it's not a theory. It's what I experienced. So I can speak to that confidently and not have my opinion of it change because I went through these things, you know, but, but if you're going to start like a theory that I've been working on, and I loosely working on is very loose statement.
00:25:33.000loosely um is this idea that what mk ultra or the gate program is selecting for is generational
00:25:38.680iniquity and i've been having some fun doing it what is the gate program the gate program is
00:25:43.640gifted and talented yeah program wait from when you're like a little kid and you go to you're in
00:25:48.120the gate program yes yeah yeah so this is an election process uh i i mines was called sigma
00:25:53.960i wasn't it was called gate when i was a kid yeah it's a thing it's the same thing same
00:25:57.960same shit yeah yeah sigma gate is mk ultra gifted and talented it is widely accepted that it's a
00:26:03.080selection process for an mk ultra program or adjacent program a lot of uh okay so um the thing
00:26:10.940that that i think they're selecting for stuck on like the joe rogan thing again now uh the thing
00:26:16.460that i think they're selecting for and i and i could be wrong among other things among other
00:26:20.700things is generational iniquity and the idea that a spirit has legal access to your bloodline because
00:26:27.600of the iniquities of your ancestors or you know whatever you did in your own lifetime but typically
00:26:31.640these are children so they've not had uh an opportunity to transgress massively into
00:26:36.200freemasonry or witchcraft much trauma yet yes yes unless um which will happen if you have a
00:26:43.420bloodline with generational iniquity in it it is likely okay gate the gate thing when you're in
00:26:48.980elementary school and they say hey you get to be in this gifted thing that's what we're talking
00:26:53.400about yes they they're prying during that i got kicked out i went to one thing probably because
00:26:59.360you kept saying the same thing over and over again who was the chick there was a chick that was like
00:27:04.860the school president chick and i said something crazy to her and i got kicked out yeah but like
00:27:09.300my brother was in it my sister was in it you're saying that no grams they're looking for kids that
00:27:13.920are uh reacting to a certain thing and also i think compliant is a big is a big deal yeah they
00:27:20.520want you to just kind of like not really question what they're doing well i think if you if you have
00:27:24.340um there are probably ways to test if you are susceptible to disassociating agreeability is a
00:27:30.440big one yeah yeah and you're high you're low on disagree on on agreeability you're high you're
00:27:35.340low on agree and disagreeability well yeah you're you're right you're you're your traits on
00:27:40.500agreeability are probably zero yeah yeah we're what do you mean somebody you'll disagree just
00:27:45.560for the sake of disagree you're high in openness low uh low in agreeability um they're like four
00:27:52.360sometimes i disagree with you not because i disagree with you because i want to hear you
00:27:55.780explain it so my tinfoil tiara actually says yeah you do uh blood type which i think is a key
00:28:03.660component and the reason i think it's a component is because there are certain genetic lines like
00:28:08.820if you think about a royal bloodline that are associated with a great deal of iniquity and
00:28:13.500therefore a spirit a power a principality has access to that bloodline um and i think there
00:28:19.200are other things like you're talking about agreeability the ability to disassociate there's
00:28:23.900a bunch of stuff going on there but i think one of the giveaways is the fact that they use a
00:28:28.620frequency test on you to see if you can hear that you know these hurts or those hurts i think that
00:28:34.100the mk ultra programs after they realize that spirits exist in frequency that's how you can
00:28:39.760communicate with them that's how you can tune one of the things to receive it wait they put
00:28:44.720headphones on you like every week yeah and they play uh like tones like and they go can you hear
00:28:50.760that shit a little bit don't you guys have a button and you say that like certain people
00:28:54.460with certain skin tones can't hear that oh yeah no that's a smoke alarm did you know there's a
00:28:59.280disproportionate amount of uh deaths by house fires in the black community i don't think we
00:29:03.340should get into this right now yeah we just made it our friend we have a new friend our friend okay
00:29:07.700but you're saying that you're saying like some people can hear certain tones and some people
00:29:10.660can't hear certain tones yeah so so um like xerox says bloodline sounds like serpent seed fake and
00:29:16.620gay well i'm talking about iniquity iniquity upon your bloodline that's incredibly biblical there's
00:29:22.340nothing that's iniquity upon your bloodline iniquity upon your household um so so the idea
00:29:28.140would be i think and this is totally theoretical but if these spirits do exist within a certain
00:29:34.840frequency range which seems to come up constantly in our research then they probably mapped out
00:29:41.100what exists on what frequency and if they have more of an interest in this entity or less of
00:29:46.960an interest in that entity they can then test can you hear this if you can hear this there's a high
00:29:52.200likelihood that if especially if there's a background done on you already well we know by
00:29:56.760this particular entity uh i don't know about if it's necessarily just swayed but like access to
00:30:02.800access to like a conduit for that entity that entity can freely interact with this individual
00:30:08.540more so than somebody who doesn't come from that bloodline who has all that iniquity because their
00:30:13.300parents were freemasons or their grandparents were cultists or their grandmothers were witches
00:30:17.380or some shit like that so i think that a great deal of what they're looking for probably isn't
00:30:23.380what they wouldn't call it iniquity but i think it's what we would identify as iniquity so they
00:30:27.320were the long story short is that they're like scouting in gate yes there's like a the guy goes
00:30:33.220to watch a high school football game he's a scout looking for you know yeah yeah same thing they're
00:30:37.600trying to find people to bring into that program okay okay got it i didn't mean to take it off the
00:30:41.760rails i just well we're 30 minutes in we should read some of these stories uh because that's the
00:30:46.580point of this show isn't it so we have a picture of leo zagami um we take that down real quick
00:30:51.000it's a great picture thank you leo for that we should turn that into something um and i'm gonna
00:30:56.100start off yeah is that what this is about what that's just the the ambient the ambient music
00:31:01.620for the spooky it's the ambiance yeah um and i guess we'll start with who should we start with
00:31:09.320here we're gonna go to this more recent one because nancy's not been cleaning house so
00:31:14.220i don't know what's going on i'm not gonna say whose name this is because they might not want me
00:31:17.820to i'm gonna go ahead and read this i listened to your story on tinfoil hat well what what's the
00:31:23.920email what can i it's a red-eyed demon red-eyed demon red-eyed demon red-eyed demon i listened
00:31:33.100to your story on tinfoil hat and i've had a very similar experience starting around 2010 to 2014
00:31:39.300i had recurring dreams where a demonic presence in the end i would be trying to call out for jesus
00:31:49.780that exactly uh once i could get jesus's name out i would wake up eventually it peaked when i was in
00:31:58.460puerto rico i was literally being drug off the edge of the bed jesus saved me then too i got
00:32:06.740out of bed and prayed and read my bible out loud i was terrified eventually i decided i would no
00:32:13.760longer be afraid because i am saved and believe jesus has power over any darkness amen crushing
00:32:19.520good move dude uh once i made that switch in my mind it stopped happening around the same period
00:32:25.440i also saw shadow people well that's those are called puerto ricans uh during sleep deprivation
00:32:31.980training in the military oh they do that they they train you for sleep deprivation i know when
00:32:36.380depending on the the squad squadron that you're in yeah is it spooky room now i know they drown
00:32:41.300don't they drown you in the marines i don't like that i'm the navy in the navy in the navy yeah
00:40:43.300that was good bro that was good well you're the one that wants the lights on colin is episode 15
00:40:46.840of this show if you guys want to go back in our audio catalog and check that out i think it was
00:40:50.820called upgraded for war yes yeah fascinating episode fascinating conversation for war
00:40:56.220he's a friend of mine for uh i don't even know five years now so before we've done the show i
00:41:01.960know colin i liked it tower tower gang enjoyer as well right joyer yeah crazy person overall very
00:41:07.220fun uh not just dabbling in mushrooms doing them heavy working security one day it's a tap on his
00:41:13.860shoulder while he's working security and it says get out of this place and he leaves and it tells
00:41:19.220him to do mushrooms lay down and like we're gonna have a little meeting this is like a truncated
00:41:25.700version like boom it's much slower than this but yeah yeah over time but but he continues to do
00:41:31.300this continues to meet with the entity that is uh a specific entity that he's got access to with
00:41:37.380the mushrooms i think it was at first and then it became like he was meeting other things but there
00:41:42.140is one that kind of goes through this through line its name i forget oh anu anu was his name
00:41:48.240a blue a blue person well i don't know if that was the same guy but i know he named one of them
00:41:52.300or it revealed its name to him and it was called anu right which is you know so he's having these
00:41:57.120experiences he thinks that they're angels because they're actually giving him like good advice like
00:42:01.740he's gotten in shape his life is uh more organized they're even telling him to go to church okay this
00:42:07.400is ringing a bell now i think i have heard this story um but then it turns out like the part that
00:42:13.160we haven't discovered lately has been uh his new girlfriend because he was he was married
00:42:19.120this all happens as he's going through a divorce right which is always when this stuff happens
00:42:23.760there's like a trauma that happens and usually divorced for men he has a new girlfriend now and
00:42:28.340his girlfriend is experiencing orbs and uh poltergeist activity and and it's crazy like
00:42:35.260one of the things he told me he he would have been sleeping or laying down and there are orbs above
00:42:41.200his bed possibly floating over him but now his girlfriend sees it and now they've been interacting
00:42:46.680with her and i think over the last since we've last spoken to him things have just gotten crazier
00:42:53.560yeah and which is interesting because there was a time where colin was looking at these
00:42:58.560experiences and these entities as as if they were like benign good and you know telling him to go
00:43:06.540to church telling him to read the bible i believe is what it was even saying and and we did that we
00:43:10.720did the episode with him and we had our reservations about like the nature of these things even he was
00:43:16.540like anu is weird anu is like the angel of death or something like that and then of course like
00:43:21.820anu naki it's like all this crap out of death in uh in egyptian mythology anu uh yeah anubis
00:43:30.180yeah that kind of like dog-headed thing so now he's reaching out he's saying hey man i know i
00:43:34.300said this thing was going good but yeah it's going bad i don't know i i don't know not in so many
00:43:39.680words it seems but i don't i don't know how to talk about it not on the show and i don't really
00:43:44.940want to talk about it in private why not um because that's an invitation oh i see what you're
00:43:51.540and i got a lot of shit going on fair so um i don't know i'm but but he's my buddy so i'm like
00:43:59.040i pray for him uh we'll see what see what happens you know but similar similar stories uh at least
00:44:06.720the orbs and such it's hard to tell somebody that a thing that has been benefiting you so much
00:44:12.960might be a malevolent entity and you might have invited it in multiple times you probably got to
00:44:19.200break ties with it i don't think he's ready to uh hear that so like i'm not going to be the one to
00:44:25.060be like yeah that this thing that's been the source of happiness for him and the source of
00:44:29.320good and the so he's like positive that this is what the only good thing in my life came to him
00:44:33.720when he was really low yeah you know and then it did uh create a bunch of positive things in his
00:44:39.660life but yeah to go and say um you know and i wonder what happens if you try to separate with
00:44:46.340that if you have created all these layers of connectivity yeah this kind of it's like yeah
00:44:50.260no i'm okay yeah yeah um bring some dirty pain we can talk about it on the show and and catalog it
00:44:56.100uh but yeah otherwise like a private invitation was like well you know i don't know i don't know
00:45:03.940yeah it's a it's a rough one it's a rough one anyway back to the story well all right can i
00:45:08.000just ask one thing real quick absolutely not i mean it's a little off the rails but it's in
00:45:11.740regards to everything that's happening right now but um what's everything that's happening so
00:45:15.120mirrors are potentially portals sure that's i've heard that a lot of times what does that mean
00:45:19.860like what are you uh i don't know reflection that somehow that's a portal to somewhere not
00:45:24.340inherently but i know that uh mirrors and and uh scrying mirrors and things like that are used uh
00:45:30.420hyper polished um obsidian glass wait so like in a magic kingdom movie where they say mirror mirror
00:45:37.200on the wall like that type of thing so like a mirror was used in like divination magic okay
00:45:43.080Well, think about a mirror too. You look into it and it shows you yourself, but everything is reversed. So like the lettering on your chest would be the opposite way. In a way, you are looking into a weird dimension. It's like this flipped version of you.
00:45:58.340some shit in a mirror once and i never did it again but i think it's the foundation for that
00:46:03.260bloody mary shit you know what's weird go ahead when i was in the rehab remember i told you they
00:46:08.360had us doing like tarot cards and stuff one of the rehab i had to live in they used to make us
00:46:12.140do mirror time like look in the mirror and what debrief on yourself yeah i forget the context
00:46:18.680no it wasn't that but the context was like looking in the mirror and like uh
00:46:23.320yeah like come into terms with yourself yeah but that was probably how'd that feel was it
00:46:29.440sketchy was it weird no i just was like you need to get your shit together dude like every time i
00:46:33.900would do the mirror time i'd be like what happened to you man like that's what i would be like i'd
00:46:38.100look in the mirror and be like what happened to you bro like you were just like having a good old
00:46:41.700time and life was great and then like look at you now dude well not at that time i was like you got
00:46:47.880to get off the meth dude oh sure and then i would see the eyes and i always knew there was like
00:46:51.780something that like the real me like wasn't this at that time i remember thinking oh yeah you ever
00:46:57.080do this and like look at your eyeball and then you're like oh shit i'm not this meat machine
00:47:01.340because it's like weird as soon as you look at your eyeball and it's it's no longer framed by
00:47:05.780your eyelids and it's just this exposed orb with flesh around it you're like oh this is literally
00:47:10.880like just a meat sack and i'm not this thing i'm something else inside of it i had that kind of
00:47:16.820the meat sack uh revelation when i was a kid but um yeah i did a thing once where i had a candle
00:47:22.760and i and it was maybe it was actually a nightlight in the bathroom whatever it was it was a small
00:47:26.700light amber colored light lights off in the bathroom staring at myself in the mirror and
00:47:31.260what happens is like an optical illusion you ever see like the circle with the point in the center
00:47:34.660if you stare at the point the circle starts to disappear so if you do unbreaky eye contact with
00:47:40.820yourself the same optical illusion takes place your facial features start to disappear until
00:47:46.180you're basically a blank canvas stay there long enough and they get replaced and it is fucking
00:47:51.180terrifying looking because you're looking into the mirror and proportionately another face has
00:47:56.720appeared and it is uh well at least for me was not a cool looking one it was specifically very
00:48:02.720spooky and i never did that shit again but i think that's like at the root of the bloody mary thing
00:48:08.040you know you're like look at the mirror and say bloody mary and then some spooky shit happens
00:48:10.900i think that's it like it's an it's the same function as that optical illusion but what
00:48:17.120comes after all the facial features melt away is a super unsettling i was watching a little bit i
00:48:24.300might watch more of the dr strange movie okay and that's like has to do with magic and mirrors the
00:48:30.840mirror dimension yeah he has a mirror dimension in the second one it's specifically it's interesting
00:48:35.180but i wasn't paying attention as much i'm gonna re-watch it was like he's doing magic and then
00:48:40.240he goes to like he's in opposition to somebody who's doing witchcraft yeah the red chick here
00:48:46.580that watched it said she just got up and walked out in louis theater she said it's just straight
00:48:50.640a cult oh yeah it is she was like i didn't even finish it i think that's why i i like uh i turned
00:48:55.920it off after a while i was like this is just like there's a lot going on some of those things suck
00:48:59.360you in with the narrative and it's like under the pure all things are pure and they can do that for
00:49:03.980a minute and then once they got you then they go dark like this last avatar movie is like we
00:49:08.880couldn't watch that i think if you're watching something and you go like you get a stirring in
00:49:13.060your spirit and you're not sure what you're looking at that it's time to check out um that's
00:49:18.020that was i think that's why i checked out because at some points i was like what are they like i
00:49:22.000understand what they're showing me but then there's a ton of symbolism yeah and i'm like i'm
00:49:25.540just not i'm not watching this the right way so i'm just gonna watch i watch it and i go like oh
00:49:31.160you fuck you mother i see what you're okay that's how i watch everything like a psychopath my wife
00:49:36.220hates it because we can't enjoy anything um all right so let's get back to this story he goes on
00:49:40.560we're we're in the house um he's passed out he woke up he called his homie come take me to the
00:49:46.360hospital it's a long way for him to come back steps out he sees these orbs goes back in lays
00:49:51.660down there's knocking on his on his window right by his sofa that he's laying on this is the second
00:49:56.620round of knocking i believe um so he says that he thinks he's just losing his shit and
00:50:04.940he goes to lay back on the couch while he's laying there he hears three taps on the okay
00:50:09.140um i think i'm just being paranoid but it happens again so that's more knocks on the on the window
00:50:16.060his dog starts growling at the door um okay he goes to shorten this up
00:50:21.820three to four months period after passing out or nearly passing out every day every day
00:50:31.280diagnosed with heart failure and something is messed up with the electrical system in my heart
00:50:38.700my six-year-old tells me one day dad i prayed you would stop passing out last night
00:50:45.760while giving me a hug and i haven't passed out since and my heart function is no longer in
00:50:54.320heart failure diagnosis i'm a normal dude no drugs barely alcohol and just a dad to a three-year-old
00:51:04.500and a six-year-old anyway that's the cliff notes i have the videos that kind of back up my claims
00:51:12.100or at least so something weird in the sky also was dealing with a breakup we just said divorce
00:51:19.300uh during that period so there was a lot of emotions during this time uh which i think
00:51:24.900escalated this and previous experiences thank you wow that got crazy man so i've heard stuff like
00:51:35.200this in particular in the woods um what seems to almost be in this case a bigfoot encounter
00:51:42.920turns into something that's much more alien and then of course there's the presence of the weird
00:51:48.340guy in the van who seems to be trying to figure out where exactly he was they both see this
00:51:54.780orb rise up out of the woods together um and then it follows him home more or less right that's what
00:52:01.420it seems like and he gets hit with what is effectively heart failure his dog hears the
00:52:10.780knocking on the windows and he's got real tangible physical ailments that are left
00:52:19.080in the wake of this and his six-year-old's prayer is what fixes it for him i mean that's a crazy
00:52:28.340story yeah this goes this one i think what i'm gonna start doing is like i'm gonna i just emailed
00:52:32.840this guy back i'm gonna give him a i'll give him like a free month or however long yeah yeah get
00:52:40.400him in the community get him in the in the patreon yeah to talk to people um because by the time they
00:52:46.440watch this who knows how long it'll be sure that's a crazy one what do you think about that matt
00:52:51.020i feel bad to talk about it what do you mean you feel bad to talk about it i just feel like i know
00:52:57.600these kind of stories they always include methamphetamine or like no he says he goes no
00:53:03.040drugs no drugs then i yeah i don't know it's like if somebody told me that like if he was here right
00:53:07.560now like i don't know like the stuff on you know uh the internet is weird like emails even like if
00:53:13.700somebody was standing right here talking to me telling me that story i'd be like okay meth but
00:53:17.880that but that's what i'm saying if he says it's not that then okay i just don't know anything
00:53:21.820about that like a story like that all i know is like i know people like that i know stories like
00:53:27.000that there's always like some kind of crazy drug use involved so if there's no drug use involved
00:53:32.200and that type of stuff is happening i'm like i i don't know i don't know what to make of that this
00:53:36.220is something that goes right into the pattern recognition folder like i've heard stories like
00:53:40.360this out in the woods footsteps around you they feel like they're around you um that was weird
00:53:46.160for me too because like how do you know it's not an animal i know he said it wasn't an animal because
00:53:50.700like there's a weird noise like a deer you know a four-footed animal can move at a different pace
00:53:56.560to where it does sound like yeah we're stepping with two at a time but it's not two feet it's
00:54:00.740four you know but you assume it's you're like wow it really sounds like a person but then you see a
00:54:04.960deer you know so i i don't know i don't know but that's such a small part of the story there's so
00:54:10.800many other things that came along with it i mean this is i think that's just what he assumes you
00:54:15.080know so he's just giving us his assumption of possibly what happened so it could be something
00:54:19.260else there could be other things that he did he's dabbling like you said maybe maybe drugs maybe
00:54:23.720you just and what's the hitchhiker thing that you said uh the guy in the van like attached to him
00:54:29.380or something in the woods the reason i told you the colin story was that colin has this thing on
00:54:35.120him and i don't know where he got that but his time and his uh proximity to his girlfriend
00:54:39.960she's got this on her and she's experiencing this and i even think he goes on to say that
00:54:44.680his parents are experiencing weird stuff that's the hitchhiker effect where it's like it follows
00:54:50.920you yeah it's touched you in some form or fashion then follows you to where you're at so we're just
00:54:54.560calling it a demon it's just a demon it's like demonic entity starts napping with everybody in
00:54:59.040your sphere if yeah but when you're talking about when you're talking about uh cryptids the people
00:55:03.980in the cryptid community like to say hitchhiker effect we would say yeah demonic entanglement
00:55:09.740uh faceless whatever faceless is like the definition of hitchhiker effect where he encounters
00:55:14.920something that you might describe as like a rake which is a cryptid skinwalker uh in a tunnel
00:55:20.320beneath the the ground in california the deserts of california and it follows him to the extent that
00:55:29.040uh it tears his dog in half that night and then the other guy he was with who also saw it and was
00:55:36.540touched by it um and left like this mark on the back of his neck his life just goes to shit
00:55:42.680afterwards like he's drug addicted getting his ass beat homeless in and out of prison
00:55:48.980and um so it left something attached to him you know attached attached to him it's a hitchhiker
00:55:55.640effect and apparently the explanation for the dog is that this thing couldn't attach itself to our
00:56:03.280homie faceless because he had some sort of protection and you know faceless believes in
00:56:07.520jesus christ like you know he's a crazy dude but if you ask him about his ideas like yeah he's you
00:56:13.760know he believes in the bible he believes in jesus and so it went for something that he cared
00:56:18.360about which is his dog that was about the best it could do and in a place where only coyotes exist
00:56:24.460something corkscrewed his dog ripped it in half through one half somewhere else and another half
00:56:30.280like a dis you know a decent distance away um on his lawn you see like uh demonic effects even in
00:56:37.000families if you've ever been around a family where like one person in the family says like oh my
00:56:42.040stomach hurts and then everybody oh my my stomach's been off lately oh yeah i haven't been feeling good
00:56:47.340and you see like this kind of domino effect where it does come in with like one person but then
00:56:52.640everybody's like on board with it and everybody's sick all the time yeah yeah well it's coming into
00:56:57.240agreement right yeah or everybody's poor all the time you know yeah like coming into agreement with
00:57:02.140those spirits that's what's happening with my my own house i told you about yeah like uh one of my
00:57:07.620owns had uh poltergeist stuff in new york and my other one has poltergeist stuff that originated
00:57:15.380in puerto rico interestingly enough and now is in florida and they moved together over there uh
00:57:21.840by orlando they live in the same house yeah yeah because it's like uh now they're close to you
00:57:27.640complicated situation where uh my uncle had brought a house in new york he passed my grandmother passed
00:57:34.560she sort of inherited it so it goes to the family so like let's both live in it yeah the family
00:57:41.540sold it instead of anybody taking the money uh they kind of like gave it to her to buy another
00:57:46.100house and she's bought this house in florida so it's kind of like family's house but like nobody
00:57:50.980wants it so she lives there and uh my aunt that was in new york wanted to get out of new york and
00:57:56.580it's a big house so they they've lived they moved in together but they're bringing like
00:58:01.260you're a specific set of demons and you're a specific set of demons yeah that's why that's
00:58:05.940why i was actually not sure if i can come today because if one's in the hospital the other one's
00:58:10.140in just bad shape in general so uh yeah yeah my mom was gonna go visit that one that was in the
00:58:15.840hospital it's just it's but it's it's one of these things of like who's hit whose hitchhiker is
00:58:21.060hitchhiking on who yeah yeah i don't know um yeah it's a bad situation but yeah i mean that's how it
00:58:27.820seems to be and i guess that's a form of iniquity too right i mean it attaches to more than one
00:58:35.680person and you know i don't know exactly how it works but we have another one here from uh one if
00:58:41.500you want to read this uh top it's right beneath that one a life of supernatural things and dumb
00:58:47.460decisions and uh i just want to say as a little caveat because they sent us a follow-up email
00:58:51.760he goes and i forgot to mention i was in the gate program oh and also and also was in the
00:58:57.200program so there you go that's that that's that whole thing but um yeah how long has the gate
00:59:01.260thing been a thing i never heard you guys talk about gate uh or maybe you did i just didn't
00:59:06.200maybe i always thought it was like we talk about we talk about mk ultra targeting children in the
00:59:11.360school it's the gate program so maybe we haven't been specific of like the the details and the
00:59:16.100names but that's what that is interesting yeah your kids are probably in it bella bella seems
00:59:22.080like somebody that would be a good candidate for that i'm not doing this i don't know if they still
00:59:25.600do that do they still do gate i don't know if the charter school did i don't remember it it's
00:59:29.640called something different but it's like yeah if we have like uh oh gosh what's it called
00:59:34.860it's not called gate but it's called like um i don't know it's something that all the smart kids
00:59:39.580are in honor society maybe like whatever like no i don't think it's the honor roll like i said by
00:59:43.980the time i was in it in new york city the iteration was uh sigma but it's the same shit it's it's the
00:59:49.360same program just named different and they're doing the same thing simulacra said uh charter
00:59:54.220school is only gate like the charter school is the gate program they're taking these boomers kids
01:51:12.340Not only that, when I heard the guy say one time, he said, I used to travel with a so-called prophet.
01:51:18.900We were in like South Florida doing stuff at like a so-called Pentecostal church.
01:51:23.420And he said to the pastor, he said, hey, let me see about those three Spanish ladies in the back, those three Spanish ladies in the back.
01:51:29.500He goes, Church of God. And he looked at me, he said, yeah, how'd you know?
01:51:32.820And he went like this. And they both started laughing.
01:51:35.580So when I asked him later, I said, what did that mean?
01:51:37.460He said, oh, well, when you pray for people from the Church of God denomination, they shake like this, like they're being moved by the Holy Spirit.
01:51:43.300And I was like, and I think he saw the terror in my face.
01:51:46.320I was like, well, I thought that's because that like that was the Holy Spirit.
01:51:49.920Like they could they weren't they weren't like doing that on purpose.
01:51:52.100they couldn't help he's like oh yeah well yeah uh you know blah blah blah and didn't know what to
01:51:56.520say and so yeah like that's what i'm talking about i was like these learned responses those are the
01:52:02.380things i'm not down with if you love the lord and you're jumping and shouting for joy in the lord
01:52:06.200because you love him and you have a childlike nature and you're so grateful to him amen i love
01:52:10.680that but when it's just these learned responses from denominations that's a little different this
01:52:15.580is what i explained to pastor mark too i was like i'm coming up to you afterward to let you know
01:52:20.740about whatever you just said because you might not know
01:52:22.800but I know that you spend time developing