New Jerusalem PT1： The Book of Revelation Series Part XXIII w⧸ Ed Mabrie
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On today's episode of The Neflum Death Squad, David Lee Corbo is joined by Ed Mabry to discuss the dangers of being a part of the "Home of the Brave" and how we need to wake up to the reality that we are living in a world run by sick people.
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We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely true.
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It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit what happened to the home of the brave.
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They're controlling us now, and no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves.
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And everybody's just walking around, heading to crime.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Neflum Death Squad.
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Guys, today is Friday, and Fridays are for the Lord.
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So we are continuing with our Book of Revelation series, episode number 23, joined once again by Ed Mabry.
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We keep taking too much time off in between these things, and I got to admit, I get to miss an Ed.
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We're 20 minutes late because every time we get together, we're just chatting it up.
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I usually come on like right around the time you're supposed to start.
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We don't hop in until like it's like five minutes till the show starts, and then we sit in the chair.
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So I'll come on a little earlier so we can get our chatting out of the way so we can start on time.
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Ed, let them know because you got some new things that you're cooking.
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I know you started your Patreon, so let's tell people where they can find you and where they can support you.
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So the main place to find me is, as you see here, facebyreason.net.
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That is where all my stuff is, generally speaking.
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But as you can probably see at the top there, I've just started a Patreon.
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Number one, it's a way for folks to support the show, and I appreciate the support.
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And for that, you know, you're not just giving me money for nothing.
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So if you are at the red tier, the tier one, you get the information I put out, the content, before anyone else.
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Like, for example, my Patreon, some people already signed up.
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They got the latest in the Genesis series last week, and I'm getting that before it even goes on my website or on YouTube.
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So it's going to be public in another week, but Patreons get it first.
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They also get bonus content that I'm not releasing.
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There's one coming up next week that I already recorded.
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And this is all about discernment, how to tell false prophets from people who actually have real prophetic information.
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Because there's a ton of them out there in social media who are saying they got this word from God about what's going to happen in 2025 and all that kind of stuff.
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And so I'm giving you some rules to use to discern the real people from the false ones and how to suss that out.
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So every week you sign up at this $5 tier, send me your questions.
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And every week I will do a video where I answer your questions.
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So you get all that for the low, low price of $5.
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If you want to jump up a tier, in addition to everything you get in the first tier, you also get to be a part of the Bible study that we do every month.
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And people have really been interested in it because it's something I've been doing with a private group.
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We've been doing it for like five years, refining it.
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And now I'm ready to let more people see it because it was a group.
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It was like my private church, not my private church.
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It was like it was a church service that I did with a group of people, with a group of friends.
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And now we think we have it to the point where we're ready to let other people join.
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And the special thing about it is that we go through the entire Bible in one year.
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We focus on the spiritual realm, not on the terrestrial realm.
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Because if you aren't looking into the supernatural world, you're missing at least 80% of what's going on in the Bible.
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And that's why a lot of people don't get why God does what he does, what his will is, because you're looking at it from the point of view that this is our story.
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The other thing we do is we read the Bible as if we've never read it before.
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We get rid of all of our preconceived notions of what you were taught about God or your opinions, your prejudices about whatever.
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And we just read it like we're reading it for the first time.
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And we read it in chronological order because the way the books of the Bible are laid out in our canon is not in chronological order.
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Like the book of Job, for example, is in the middle of the Old Testament, but it actually occurs during the Genesis narrative.
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And we'll be covering that during the Genesis series.
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Because you said you get to the point where you're willing to, okay, you are starting fresh.
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Every year we start from, we go from February to January.
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So actually this Sunday, I'm doing the last one with my current group.
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We're wrapping up Revelation, actually this coming Sunday.
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And then we're going to start all over again in February.
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And that's when everyone can come aboard, February 16th.
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I'm totally joining because I've been looking for a good Bible study.
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There was a time where like I wanted to try, but I don't know what I'm doing.
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I'd rather have somebody else read it and then we can kind of go over it together.
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I've been thinking about this for a couple of weeks now, your Bible study.
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And it's good to know that you're starting February.
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No, David had like a little Bible series on Nephilim Death Squad.
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He struggled with a lot of the words if they were more than like seven letters.
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And it turns out a lot of seven and above letters in the Bible.
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So the way the Bible study is laid out, it's an hour.
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One half hour, it's just me doing an overview of the subject matter.
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Then the next half hour or more if we go that way, but I want to try to cap it at-
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People can leave after the next half hour, but that's more of discussion, Q&A.
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I know a lot of people around the country, and that's the earliest I actually want to do it.
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You get access to the tools that we have some resources that have everything laid out.
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So you can read through it, and there are different levels.
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If you just want to read everything, you can read the whole Bible, or you can read the highlights.
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And there's also video highlights, and there's summaries.
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So if you want to take just like the easiest path, if you don't have a lot of time, you can just read the subject summaries and the videos, and you're good.
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If you want to dive in and go verse by verse, you can do that, too.
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So once you sign up for it, you get access to that tool, those resources, and then once a month, I give you my overview and summary.
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We talk it through, and then we go into the next month, and we do it.
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And every year, I get new insights from God about stuff, and so it's always going to be new.
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It's still different every year, and people have told me that it's changed their lives.
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I hope all the dangerous retards in the audience, look, man, it would be really cool to go and be a part of this together.
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But yeah, ideally, I would love to show up and bring a bunch of the gang with me.
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I'll be subbing to the Patreon, and looking forward to that, man.
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If you guys are here, if you're here right now, this is 10.30 a.m. your time, right?
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It'll be the same time, again, on every third Sunday.
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So you'll be very prepared for what's going on.
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And so I know it's a lot to get through the Bible in, thank you.
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I know it's a lot to get through the Bible in one year.
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So obviously we can't get into every nook and cranny, but you can through the resource.
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But I'm giving an overview of the big points that are going to really help you understand
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We're almost at the end, but we're at the good stuff.
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We are all the bad stuff out of the way, the judgments and hell and everything.
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And so last time we talked about what heaven, the myths about heaven slash new Jerusalem
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and what it is, what it isn't, what we're going to be, some of the stuff we're going
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And now we're actually going to go into chapter 21 of Revelation and we're going to look at
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the physical description of the new Jerusalem and why it's laid out the way it is.
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And we'll see if we have time to get into some of the stuff we'll be doing while we're
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I'm okay with that because I want to keep stretching this out.
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Well, I mean, you know, we were talking before the show, there's other stuff on the horizon
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that we could be doing, but, um, you know, this is just one of my favorite things that
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Uh, and so also not looking forward to it ending, but still looking forward to the information.
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So if you want to pull up, I don't know, top, if you want to pull it up or I can, I can,
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So, um, I'm just, I'm probably just going to, instead of reading it all, I'm going to read
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a chunk of it, then kind of, then kind of talk about what's going on here.
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I think it might be the best way instead of just giving a big, um, reading download.
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Um, and I saw in chapter 21, so this is chronologically in, in this, um, uh, in the rep, in this point
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of revelation, this is the great white throne judgment where all the people who rejected
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God's provision have, have been, you know, judged and they're separate, they're eternally
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And I saw a new heaven and a new earth for the first heaven and the first earth are passed
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And I, John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven and prepared
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And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, behold, the tabernacle of God is with men
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and he will dwell with them and he, and they shall be his people.
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And God himself shall be with them and be their God.
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And God shall wipe away all tears in their eyes and there shall be no more death, sorrow, or
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Neither shall there be any more pain for the former things are passed away.
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And he has sat on the throne and said, behold, I make all things new.
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And he said to me, right, these words are true and faithful.
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I'm the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
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I will give it to them who is a thirst, a fountain of water freely.
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So that means that the, the old, again, the old heaven, old earth passed away.
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We saw at the beginning of the, the great white throne judgment, it said that when God
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began his final judgment, he said that, you know, the earth and heavens before the face
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of God, they, they fled away and there was no room left with it.
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So that means that this earth that we're on the heavens and this, and in this time, in
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this case, the heavens don't mean the spiritual realm.
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If you believe in space, I'm not going to get to the flat earth stuff here.
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I'm going to, there'll be another flat earth reference that I'm going to make again, later
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again, I'm ambivalent about flat earth, but if you believe in it, cool.
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But this earth, this realm is going to pass away.
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We also see in the book of Peter, I think it's second Peter, Peter talks about how,
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you know, the, a fire is going to consume everything.
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This is controversial to, for some reason, I don't understand why people have a problem
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with it, but there are some people who you will see, um, who are Christians who will
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debate whether or not this is the earth and heavens being destroyed or if they're just
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Um, because it's interesting that they say there's no more sea.
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Ed, is that like, yeah, I'm going to get to that in just a sec.
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So, uh, there, they, cause they, cause there are verses that heaven and earth will never
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Well, what that means is the heavens and the earth, you have to look at it in the sense
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of, of what God said in Genesis one, one in the beginning, God created the heavens and
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What he said by that, he doesn't, that doesn't just mean the physical planet or plane or whatever
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we live on earth is the word rat means material realm.
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When, so when he, in that sense, when he says the heavens and earth will never pass away,
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that means there will, there will always be a, a forever.
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There will always be a spiritual and, um, a physical realm, not necessarily this particular
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And there's a reason, and we're going to see that when we, when we get to some, uh, other
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We saw a few verses, um, uh, down that there's going to be fountains of water.
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So I think there'll still be rivers and lakes and things like that, but there won't be any
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Well, on the original earth that we'll be, they were talking, we'll be talking about
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in the Genesis series I'm doing, there weren't any oceans.
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My, my mind was kind of going there when it's talking about the earth being formless.
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But when he, when he recreated it, when he, when Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, there
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So that means there was a huge amount of land that people could, that human beings could
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So obviously we have a considerably less on our current earth, but, and actually, Lucas,
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There is a reason why the oceans are considered evil because that is where certain spiritual
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The sea is always with the, with the UFOs coming out of the ocean, this kind of thing.
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We're going to talk about Leviathan and when we get to, uh, Genesis chapter one, verse
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two, because there's some interesting stuff there that, unless you know, understand the
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Hebrew and some Ugaritic references, there's actually, there's actually an image there in
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Genesis chapter one, verse two of God slaying a, a water dragon, the Leviathan or Tiamat.
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And the earth was formed without void and darkness upon the face of the deep.
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And the Teom can actually be, if you go to the Ugaritic, um, text, it's, it's, it's, it's the
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Tiamat was a seven headed dragon in, in, in, uh, in, uh, in ancient, um, in ancient Ugaritic
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So I'm, that's a whole other thing that we'll, I'll save for the Genesis series.
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We'll talk about it maybe in a few weeks, but he's, he's, it says the spirit of God
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was hovering over the waters, the water, the word waters, the word miasma, which means
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There was some type of rebellion early on that I'll detail in my Genesis series.
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And this chaos dragon, this Leviathan, this Tiamat was defeated.
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And the spirit of God is standing over him in a position of, of beating him.
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Like God just kicked this dragon's ass and now he has to recreate the earth.
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So enough of Genesis, let's get back to revelation.
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No, but I was going to say, uh, when, when they refer to the ocean, they refer to it in
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the feminine and the feminine is usually correlated with chaos, whereas the masculine would be
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And the reason, and again, that's because there's no need for that.
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But there's no more chaos and there's no more need to use that to imprison any fallen
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And what that also means again, is that this new earth will have a ton more land space.
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So like no more salt water, because there's really no reason for brackish water, right?
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It's like, no, it doesn't do any good for anyone.
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It's, you know, if you drink it, you're going to throw up or, or you're going to go off
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By the way, the whole, like, you know, so these things are in prison under the oceans
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and, and top is like, yeah, that's where the UFOs are coming out of.
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And it's like, is it possible to like, now let's, again, we're going to do, you got
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Is it possible that the reason the water would need to be brackish or like salt water?
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Um, would that maybe, maybe because like a water would be some kind of a conduit that
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I mean, that doesn't like, like don't spiritual entities use water in some sort of way.
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But if I wonder if it's like, uh, if it has saline and I mean, if it has salt in it, would
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that change the composition of it in order to trap something or to mess this up?
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What do you have in, over in, in Israel right now?
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That was, you know, even the Dead Sea during the time of Jesus, although, I mean, during
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the time of the Patriots up until now, you have the Dead Sea.
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Because it's, it's the more salt, the less life can be there.
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Interestingly, the Dead Sea is starting to become, starting to become less salinated and
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And that's actually a prophecy that in the end times, the Dead Sea will actually start
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That's a whole other thing, but there are some videos you can go to YouTube and you'll
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find this, it's a lady who does a really good job of showing that, you know, in certain
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So aside for, look, I know this is going to be totally schizo, but yeah, there is like
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an association with, uh, running water, fresh running water and, um, and portals.
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And I think it's worth noting that like within ceremony, when you're, when you're a ritual,
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when you're, uh, calling on some demonic entity, you entrap them with what?
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You, you provide, or you prevent them from crossing barriers, crossing portals.
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You put it in a doorway to keep it from entering through that portal.
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Uh, if they're trapped beneath an entire body of salt water, maybe there is like an alchemical
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Well, salt, on our purely, in our purely physical realm, salt, sodium is, is, is it, you know,
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They conduct electricity, um, you know, salt, potassium, you know, that we call them electrolytes
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I mean, that's because they, they help in our, in the, you know, our bodies are electric and
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having the right amount of electrolytes help those, those functions.
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Like when you, when your muscles contract, obviously there's electricity going through
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And so, and if you don't have enough electrolytes, you know, you're going to get cramps because
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So salt is an electrolyte, it, it conducts a form of, of, of, of electric power.
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Like when I, like back in the day, when I burned down David's ancestors, uh, homestead,
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I assaulted the land after, so they can't grow anything.
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There's, there feels like there's something there.
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And unfortunately, um, between that we could use Gatorade interchangeably with a holy water.
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And if they use that, what's in there, what's that, that thing, that, that red dye fire that
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Maybe that's, maybe that'll like, you know, that probably is.
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So in addition to there not being a place to a prison.
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Um, these entities, because there's no need for it to imprison them.
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Again, it also means it's going to be a massive amount of land.
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And I mean, even today, even, you know, in our current earth, there's massive amounts of
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land, you know, that's why overpopulation those, that's such a crock.
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I mean, you know, but I mean, imagine if, if we had, if the oceans weren't here right
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now, imagine how much land we'd have, but now this new earth is going to be bigger.
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And I'm going to, I'll show why in a few verses, but the new earth is going to be bigger
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And so there's going to be a ton, a ton of room.
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And so you don't, we don't have to worry in the, in the new earth about, you know,
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So you mean to tell me there's not going to be any, there's no cities in Newark.
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There's no, um, Newark, New Jersey or, uh, or anything like that.
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That might, I don't think, I think there's going to be, again, I don't know this.
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I think the new Jerusalem will be the only organized city.
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I think the rest is going to be the way God originally intended for us.
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And we'll have, there'll be homes there you can build a domicile, but I don't think we'll
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Like, you know, I live near San Francisco, you know, I, my family's down in LA.
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I was, it's not going to be, I don't think it's going to be concentrated like that because
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You look in the Bible, aside from the new Jerusalem, cities are always bad.
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I mean, when you get too many people together in one space, you know, because we, I don't
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think we're ever meant to be concentrated like that.
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I think we were meant to have a large plot of land that we call our own, that we can
00:24:24.400
make our own and use our own uniqueness and you can visit other people's land, but I don't
00:24:29.540
think we were ever meant to be crowded into these like, you know, tiny areas.
00:24:34.060
Certainly not stacked on top of each other, you know, vertically.
00:24:37.320
We were, we were talking about, uh, I don't know if it was us, but we were talking about
00:24:41.100
Adam and his commission that God said, now go and be fruitful, multiply and like basically
00:24:47.180
So if human beings are this like source of weird source of electricity and spirituality
00:24:52.020
or whatever the hell we are, and we're like all around the earth coding it, think about
00:25:08.040
Um, it like what happens when you concentrate too much in one area and that's like glowing
00:25:14.120
blue or, or there's not in any area, like you'll get an area like a desert, which are
00:25:24.120
So it's like, yeah, it would make sense that we're supposed to spread out equally among
00:25:30.740
So he commanded Adam and Eve and you know, then that's what he, that's what he commanded after
00:25:34.680
I mean, after Noah, he said, go out and they didn't do it.
00:25:38.060
And obviously that, that made God angry enough to say, okay, I'm going to have to confuse
00:25:41.840
your languages because you're not going to do it on your own.
00:25:43.840
So if you have to make it so that you don't understand these people next to you.
00:25:47.080
So you have to spread out and with the people who, who's like, what you do understand, because
00:25:51.560
we naturally, we want to congregate and God wants us to spread out.
00:25:55.940
And so any, so, all right, now we get to verse two and you saw the new Jerusalem coming, coming
00:26:02.940
down out of heaven, prepared as a bride adore for her husband.
00:26:06.260
So obviously John is, is, is, um, talking about the beauty of the city.
00:26:09.600
We're going to see it described a few verses down, but what's interesting is that it never,
00:26:14.580
my old mentor, Chuck Missler would say, would emphasize that it says a new Jerusalem coming
00:26:21.280
So he speculates that the new Jerusalem might be a floating city.
00:26:29.180
He could be, but I don't think he's correct on that because when we get down to the description
00:26:32.640
a little later, you're going to see it has foundations.
00:26:35.080
And I don't think there's a point in having a foundation stone for a city if it's floating
00:26:41.780
And maybe it is floating in the air, but that'll be interesting if it is.
00:26:45.000
But yeah, I, my opinion is that it comes down and actually lands on the new earth.
00:26:49.380
But if it float, if it's floating, that just adds a lot of, you know, a different color
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Veracity to the inner earth theory or hollow earth theory.
00:27:30.140
If like you've got a new Jerusalem that just kind of goes over or around, it would make sense
00:27:35.560
for it being much larger if it had to go around or over, because it's got to cover that surface
00:27:44.760
Like, yeah, I, that's, that's what I, that's where I struggle with it being a floating city
00:27:49.220
because again, the foundations are meant to be, again, to anchor something to the ground.
00:27:54.260
So, well, it's not, it's not a big deal, but it's just something that, you know, if someone
00:28:01.680
My question is how much space is in between, you know?
00:28:04.800
Like if this is over, like that part, the original earth then stays, it stays there
00:28:11.780
And this thing is on it, either flat on it or there's space.
00:28:16.200
Because if there's space that, that would imply you could do something there.
00:28:25.660
And you'd be like, if this thing ever going to fall on me, but yeah, I don't think so.
00:28:30.000
It's an intriguing thought, but I think it's going to be on physically anchored to the
00:28:33.680
earth and then, so, so three and so first three basically says that God will be with
00:28:39.660
This gets back to what I talked about last time.
00:28:42.180
And the whole purpose of the eternity is that it's going to be Eden again.
00:28:52.040
What he wanted in the beginning was to dwell with man.
00:28:55.020
He told Adam and Eve, you know, during the day, rule the earth, you know, spread out,
00:29:04.340
Then in the cool of the day, let's walk and talk.
00:29:10.660
And now he's getting it until the tabernacle of God and the tabernacle doesn't necessarily.
00:29:17.420
The tabernacle doesn't, doesn't necessarily mean a physical building, although the new
00:29:20.600
Jerusalem will be the quote unquote tabernacle, but to tabernacle with someone just means
00:29:26.300
Like if you have a house guest, your house guest is tabernacling with you.
00:29:31.780
And so God will individually hang out with us because he's omnipresent.
00:29:36.700
That's how he can talk to all of us at the same time.
00:29:39.840
He's, I think God is, is, is, is with us right now listening to what we're saying.
00:29:44.460
And he's also answering, you know, listening to someone's prayers in Sri Lanka.
00:29:47.420
And he's also, you know, healing someone in, you know, somewhere in, in wherever, in Romania
00:29:55.640
So that means that we will, he will tabernacle with us.
00:30:00.180
The next verse says that he will wipe all the tears from our eyes.
00:30:08.180
Obviously there'll be no more sorrow or crying.
00:30:10.480
Neither will be any more pain for all the former things that passed away.
00:30:13.200
And, um, so again, um, it says, so we can move on to verse five.
00:30:20.580
He says, behold, I make all things new and write these words of truth and faithful.
00:30:23.780
And I'm the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.
00:30:25.580
And I will give all of them who, who a thirst, a fountain, a fountain of the water of life.
00:30:38.820
One, I think there's going to be tears for the people who we love, who aren't going to be there.
00:30:45.420
Um, but I, but that's, I think those tears are going to be wiped away and comforted immediately.
00:30:50.120
And I, after death is going to be no more sorrows.
00:30:52.160
He's going to wipe away your tears, meaning he is going to comfort you and just let you
00:30:55.740
know that this is, this is just, it's, it's what it is.
00:30:58.280
You're sad that your loved ones, maybe friends, maybe family.
00:31:01.800
I mean, I have family who have passed away who I know they weren't believers.
00:31:06.580
Now it's going to be even sadder when I know that they're not going to be there.
00:31:08.860
I have friends now who I, I wouldn't say I've given up on them, but, um,
00:31:13.200
and I, I still work on, but I know that they have made it up in their mind that, you know,
00:31:19.060
I'm not going to be a part of Christianity and it's going to, it's going to be sad for
00:31:24.480
So this is, this is kind of crazy and it's, it's outside of the thought of like traditional
00:31:28.600
Christian thought, but I was talking with my parents about this idea.
00:31:31.740
Like we were looking at the Hebrew, um, translation of the word eternity and the, that, that word
00:31:39.200
said, uh, the, the definition of it was, uh, something to the effect of like an indescribable
00:31:44.240
amount of time or like an undeterminable, like it's just so vast that we don't even know how
00:31:49.640
And, uh, so I was thinking about that and when it says like, you know, you'll be in,
00:31:58.440
If you're a believer that implies that other, that other people would be in hell or show or
00:32:04.260
not show, but you know, another place that is God for an eternity for an eternity.
00:32:10.380
But that's like, it just means it's an indeterminable amount of time, but it is an amount of time.
00:32:17.440
So it's, it's not, and this is really tough for us because physical time, which, you know,
00:32:22.900
I, I, I talked about him in, in the, the revelation I'm talking in the Genesis one that's
00:32:28.460
out for my Patreons now, and it'll be dropping on, on, on my free feeds next week.
00:32:32.900
We talk about what time is there's physical time and that's the time we are bound by and
00:32:40.520
We only go, it only goes in one direction when we're bound by it.
00:32:44.820
Now, time is a measurement of a sequence of events.
00:32:50.180
Well, there has to be, because things are going to happen after the other, but I think
00:32:54.740
there's going to be, we're going to experience time in a different way.
00:32:57.780
And again, it's tough to describe the best way I can describe it of eternity is, is a
00:33:07.660
We're not saying, Hey, you know what I'm going to do next week?
00:33:11.380
It's like a story that was when we went over Genesis, excuse me, revelation chapter 12.
00:33:16.460
And cause I think that's a, a, a kind of a, a insight into how God sees time or experiences
00:33:24.020
And cause you have the story of the woman clothed in the sun with the moon under her feet
00:33:27.920
She's giving birth to a man child who's caught up to heaven and another dragon trying to
00:33:34.000
And he's, his tail is drawing a third of the stars earth.
00:33:36.420
All the, all, you know, the woman is Israel, the man child who she's pregnant with and giving
00:33:41.420
And the dragon is obviously Satan, but it's all happening at once.
00:33:45.340
And that's like 5,000 years of history of this all happening at once.
00:33:50.960
Israel, Jesus coming, ascending to heaven, dragon trying to devour him or, or stop Jesus'
00:34:00.560
That's all it's all, it's a sequence of events, but it's, but God is seeing it all at
00:34:07.520
I, we talked about it before you look at, think about your favorite movie.
00:34:10.720
You can see the sequence of it, but you see it all at the same time.
00:34:16.540
It's a clumsy equivalent because it's really, we can't wrap our minds around it, but that's
00:34:19.640
the closest equivalent I can give you to what eternity is going to be like.
00:34:22.560
It's going to be happening, happened and is happened and will happen at the same time.
00:34:28.820
But again, we're going to be existing in such a higher dimensional plane.
00:34:31.720
It does, it can't make sense to us now in our three or four dimensional world.
00:34:35.480
But if we're, if we're in 11 dimensions, I think it's, then it can theoretically make
00:34:43.060
And not, not to, I don't want to get too quote up on this, but I was kind of like arguing
00:34:47.240
the point with my parents more about the people that do go to this other place.
00:34:52.600
I was like, if it's an indescribable, indescribable amount of time, it's an amount of time.
00:34:56.720
Are they, so if it's an amount of time, it's an amount of time.
00:34:59.340
That means that it ends, that it stops at some point.
00:35:01.300
Like, is there another, you know, is there another time for them to then be able to like
00:35:08.400
That that's like, it's a crazy idea, but if, if that's what that word means, and that
00:35:13.460
means that it does imply that there would be an amount of time for these people who,
00:35:18.440
who were lost at some point, maybe that's why he wipes the tears from your eyes.
00:35:25.280
The short answer is if, if the way that they like, so.
00:35:29.340
Um, and it's going to be a really sloppy analogy, but it seems like that's the, it's the best
00:35:33.980
Cause we're three-dimensional entities, but like, um, in Dragon Ball Z, there's a hyperbolic
00:35:37.820
time chamber and it's just a place where you go where time happens differently.
00:35:40.820
So the people on the outside experience these folks being gone in this chamber for an hour,
00:35:45.940
but the people that are inside the chamber are gone for years.
00:35:49.200
And so, you know, um, I just wonder if it's one of those things where it's like, if you
00:35:54.560
are relegated to the time that we're in now and you go to a place of suffering, well, then
00:35:59.140
you experience time in this way, but we might be sitting on the outside.
00:36:03.220
This is like the idea of God wiping away your tears.
00:36:05.240
We might be looking at that and being like, well, they're going to be out any second now.
00:36:09.620
So it's not that bad, but they are experiencing torture.
00:36:14.200
They're experiencing thousands of years of basically distance from God and left to come
00:36:19.100
to terms with the fact that they belong there, that they have, you know, sinned and they
00:36:29.400
So I just wonder if maybe that's what the nature of it is.
00:36:31.520
Like, let's say we get whisked out and we are now extra dimensional entities, but they
00:36:37.260
So they're still here in this drudgery, going through this suffering, feeling alone,
00:36:41.760
but in the grand scheme of things, they're already there and they're already, they're
00:36:53.160
Maybe the mercy is that we experienced 10,000 years and for them, it's only like a day.
00:36:57.780
So they're only suffering for a day while we're enjoying pleasure and joy for 10,000 years.
00:37:10.160
And when I get to my crazy theory next week, maybe, um, cause I have a thought again, and
00:37:15.500
when I, and I want to preface this before next week, this is not based.
00:37:24.400
This is just, this is going to be my conjecture.
00:37:29.820
I'm just, well, oftentimes Ed, your conjecture is, is a lot of fun.
00:37:34.180
And we're allowed to think here, you know, I welcome it.
00:37:38.880
And that's, and that's the kind of stuff that you'll probably get on the Patreon up when I'll, I'll feel more free to give like my really wacky theories.
00:37:45.640
But I want to kind of stick to, you know, verse by verse stuff on the free feed, but not get to my, you know, other stuff commentary on, on the Patreon that, that might even get me banned off of YouTube.
00:37:56.460
Cause I already have two strikes, I already have two strikes against me.
00:37:59.200
I just want to remind everybody that, uh, when the 16th rolls around.
00:38:04.200
I got a strike, um, because I, the first time I got a strike, but they were both the same reason.
00:38:09.060
I got a strike because, um, I very lightly compared the COVID injections to the mark of the beast.
00:38:16.180
Because what I, I didn't say they were, they were not the market, but what I said was, you know, my theory is that it's going to change your, that the mark of the beast will change your DNA.
00:38:23.100
And what I basically said is that the injections show that we have the technology already to affect your DNA.
00:38:31.180
And when I said that, and they said that's medical misinformation and I, and I got a strike and I was banned.
00:38:41.320
And I don't know if you know this, Ed, but going against science is going against Fauci.
00:38:44.980
I am, I, I am anti, yeah, I went, I went anti-science.
00:38:48.660
I mean, I, you know, you got to believe the science, trust the science, you know, um, just believe, just believe.
00:38:57.220
At Nephilim Desquad, we obey, submit, and comply to the science.
00:39:02.200
Shout out to Pfizer and Moderna, by the way, some of my favorite companies.
00:39:10.960
Um, but before we go on, I just want to remind everybody that's listening now, because it's, it's grown since the beginning of the show.
00:39:19.200
Uh, so, uh, patreon.com backslash faith by reason.
00:39:22.420
Uh, I highly recommend to the dangerous retards listening, sign up and then we can hang out and we can do Bible studies together on the 16th of February.
00:39:29.120
I'm looking, I'm really looking forward to that.
00:39:35.480
I mean, it's on, I just, the first time I've talked about on this show, but I think just people who were expecting it, I, I mentioned briefly that I was
00:39:41.400
going to do one in and folks have already come aboard.
00:39:43.700
And I've done, I just, I did a quick video on, my YouTube channel forward and on faith that reason, Annette but yeah, come on board.
00:39:49.720
I mean, I'd love to have you, um, and yeah, you're going to get some good information.
00:39:58.680
and so this is just joy what you're going to see throughout this is the apostle john is just
00:40:02.360
overwhelmed so he keeps repeating himself which which i understand he's a teacher like me and we
00:40:07.320
tend to repeat ourselves and we want we really want you to understand it so john is just overwhelmed
00:40:11.720
um so let's go to verse seven yeah well he overcomes to inherit all things i will be his
00:40:15.080
god he will be my son a good you know beautiful overview statement but the fearful and believing
00:40:18.760
abominable whoremongers sorcerers idolaters and lawyers would have their place in this in the
00:40:24.040
second death the lake of fire so he's saying there's not there's not going to be any evil there
00:40:29.400
then here's this is interesting verse nine there came to me one of the seven angels which had the
00:40:33.240
seven vials or bowls of the seven last plagues the bowls of wrath and talked to me saying come here
00:40:38.440
and i will show you the bride the lamb's wife and he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high
00:40:43.080
mountain and showed me the great city the holy holy jerusalem again descending out from the from god
00:40:50.200
so i want to talk about these two verses before we get to the description so one of the first of
00:40:55.080
all we know that again there's not going to be any evil in in new jerusalem verse eight makes that pretty
00:40:59.960
clear verse nine the angel who talks to john happens to be one of the angels that poured out the bowls of
00:41:05.480
one of the bowls of wrath that where god judged all the evil in the world why would this why would god
00:41:11.640
choose this angel to talk to john i think it's my opinion is that he's trying to say that the same god
00:41:18.520
who judges is also the same god who rewards the same god who has no tolerance for evil
00:41:23.880
it's also the same god who's going to bring you eternal joy because people have this idea that you
00:41:28.520
know god the god the father jehovah yahweh is like the vengeful one and jesus is the sweet nice guy
00:41:35.720
and honestly it's more the other way around i think that the god of the bible the the the father god
00:41:41.400
is the is more tolerant than jesus if you read the way jesus behaved in the gospels he was
00:41:48.200
he was impatient he called his disciples stupid he said you guys are slow of learning how long
00:41:53.080
am i going to be with you you idiots don't get it jesus was hardcore he he's the one who beat people
00:41:58.600
out of the temple when they were the money changers he he made a whip he went in there and just kicked
00:42:03.320
the crap out of them and overturned their tables that's we had you know the idea we have of jesus of
00:42:07.720
this you know hippie and and with long hair and white robe saying peace and love brother no that's not
00:42:13.800
who jesus really was jesus was does it does it say that he made the whip yes he he took court
00:42:19.320
he said it says okay literally he took rope and tied knots into it that's a lot different than
00:42:25.960
finding one and then being like hold on a second he said i'm gonna make sure that i got the
00:42:31.240
the whipping stick so i just in my mind i it's like jesus tying knots in a rope like muttering
00:42:39.160
i'm coming baby i'm coming go ahead let me see you keep that energy when i show up like that
00:42:46.760
that's very okay okay yeah so that's a whole other thing like i think i i might do a jesus study after
00:42:51.560
genesis we'll see what happens yeah yeah he said dad has mercy me i you got five minutes of mercy
00:43:02.520
you got talked up in this time this rope to get the money changed off the temple get your jesus
00:43:06.760
whips at top lobster.com dude you got to do it oh my god coming soon guys coming soon all right so um
00:43:16.840
all right so he can't he takes so so this um angel the edge with the wrath of the same was going to
00:43:21.240
show him the uh the new jerusalem coming down out of heaven so let's go to verse 11. they said he
00:43:27.080
having the glory of god her light was like um was like a stone most precious even like a jasper
00:43:31.480
stone clear as crystal and had a wall great and high and had 12 gates and uh the gates and after
00:43:37.640
gates 12 angels and written thereon by the names of the 12 tribes of the children of israel so it has
00:43:42.760
12 gates and each gate has has one of the tribes of israel written on it three gates on the east
00:43:48.040
north south and west and on the wall of the city and on the wall of the city had 12 foundations and
00:43:53.720
on them were the 12 apostles of the lamb and he talked to me and he who talked to me had a golden
00:43:58.520
reed measured the city and the gates are up and the walls are up so he's measuring the city and the
00:44:02.120
city lies four square and the length is as tall as it is as long as it is high and he measures the
00:44:06.760
city with a reed 12 000 furlongs burlong excuse me the length and the breadth and the height are all
00:44:11.560
equal and he measured the wall 344 cubits according to the measure of a man and that is of of an of
00:44:17.080
an angel of a messenger and the building of the wall was of jasper the city was a pure gold like the
00:44:22.520
clear glass the foundations of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones i'm
00:44:26.360
going to mess up some of these pronunciations um some of them we um let me start oh yeah the
00:44:32.200
foundation was jasper the second was sapphire the third uh chalcedony the fourth emerald the fifth
00:44:37.800
sardonyx the sixth sardis the seventh uh uh crystal uh crystallite the eighth barrel the ninth
00:44:43.800
of topaz the tenth uh crystal screw that the eleven about this ed though it's um we we talked
00:44:49.480
to a a guy named uh justin brown of the promethean lens podcast and um and he talks about this code of
00:44:56.280
many colors that joseph had and he makes an argument a pretty compelling one that it was actually
00:45:00.200
the priestly robes stripped off the nakash in the gardens and um and you know that that robe
00:45:06.440
seemingly was adorned with you know all of these various gemstones itself and i i just wonder if
00:45:12.280
there's a there's something that we don't understand um because i do kind of think that there's room for
00:45:17.080
like alchemy like there is room to sort of manipulate the the foundational elements of this
00:45:22.600
realm that we live in and i think that that is probably what gives um abilities to some of these more
00:45:29.400
magical um artifacts throughout history right like the idea of the ark of the covenant like there's
00:45:34.200
there's something in its makeup the way that it was created that allows it to to do these things
00:45:39.160
and um i just find it interesting that you know whenever the bible mentions something now i'm like
00:45:44.200
that's on purpose right when the bible goes like esau was hairy i'm like well he must have been pretty
00:45:48.360
hairy then for the bible to be like no dog like he was hairy like he said i mean that's this dude was
00:45:52.840
like he was like he was like bigfoot i've heard some weird theories that he was that what was esau and
00:45:57.880
nephilim right right and so when you have the bible going out of its way to list all of these various
00:46:04.200
gemstones that the foundations of this city are made of i'm like maybe that is the propulsion mechanism
00:46:10.040
for the city or something like you know what i mean like that gives it the ability to fly i don't
00:46:13.720
think that like god has the ability to do anything in this realm but i think he uses the the elements
00:46:20.120
of the thing that he created you know it's it's um and so you know maybe that's the method by which
00:46:26.040
this thing is is given levity well let's keep in mind something that magic so-called magic exists how do we
00:46:31.960
know this and because in the book of enoch we see that the fallen angels following elohim they taught
00:46:38.120
people enchantments they taught them magic which means it really is now we're not supposed to use
00:46:42.360
it in in the way that these that the fallen angels want us to but there is some type there again it's it's
00:46:51.400
it's difficult to talk about without i don't want to sound like pagan and and all the kind of stuff but
00:46:56.200
you know there is something to it like crystals and things some of these crystals i have like next to
00:47:00.120
my bed right now i have um um certain of these crystals and i have them there not because i'm
00:47:05.240
praying to them but because some of them absorb electromagnetic negative electromagnetic radiation
00:47:10.120
so i have it near me because i want to make sure that when i'm asleep that all the negative emf fields
00:47:14.920
that are in all of our homes are not affecting me right now am i performing a magic ritual no i'm just
00:47:20.840
using what this these crystals natural ability to you know absorb harmful radiation just to protect
00:47:26.200
myself because that's naturally what they're what they can do so yeah i think we've lost a lot of
00:47:32.360
that like yeah like i think i think we have because i and i've talked about it before because it feels
00:47:36.280
like jesus was um in very many ways it seems like everything the same way like mankind became corrupted
00:47:41.960
in our genealogy um i think everything and it talks about that too right as far as like chimeric
00:47:46.360
animals and even plant life and things like that but i think that so much even the sciences were so
00:47:51.080
corrupted that it was like we need to go back to like the basics almost you know and so uh jesus
00:47:58.840
gives us that pathway through we no longer need all this extra augmented stuff but i don't know if um
00:48:04.280
if god creates something uh and and and they invert it it doesn't necessarily mean that that thing is
00:48:10.200
bad uh but it just right now it probably is because our understanding of it is so far from the root
00:48:16.600
that um if we tried to use it we would end up probably screwing ourselves over once again it's
00:48:21.800
how you use something like if i take the crystal that's next to my bed and i just keep it on my
00:48:26.280
nightstand to protect me i'm not doing anything wrong but if i take and i pray to and try to you
00:48:30.120
know you know do some kind of control someone's mind well yeah that's yes it's what you do with it
00:48:35.480
and i think that god gave us everything on this earth when he said he said it was good all this
00:48:39.080
creation was good he gave it to us for us another idea of that is is like herbs he says you know he gave
00:48:45.560
all the herbs to heal us and you know there we know that there are herbs that can actually heal
00:48:49.480
you but there are also people who use some of these herbs herbs in ritualistic you know you some
00:48:54.520
people burn sage to do other ritual cleansing or whatever offerings right so you can misuse it but
00:49:01.480
that doesn't mean just because you misuse something doesn't mean it's bad for you i mean a great example
00:49:05.800
is is cannabis if you you can abuse it but it can also help if you if you use it the right way which
00:49:13.000
is that you know so but then but then man will screw it up and take you know a poppy seed and
00:49:18.520
turn it into freaking heroin which was never what it was intended to be but a poppy the poppy seed can
00:49:24.040
actually relieve some pain but if you you know refine it and screw with it now it's something that's
00:49:28.520
going to make you an addict which is not what god intended right it's a beautiful thing where you have
00:49:32.680
somebody back in the day who has an injury and then all of a sudden is granted relief from this plant
00:49:37.320
and then fast forward 2025 and you have kensington avenue in philly where it's just a bunch of
00:49:42.040
fentanyl zombies and you go we're probably probably using that the wrong way now yeah probably probably
00:49:48.360
uh top let's go back there's one more verse i want to read then i'll give you my idea of what
00:49:52.600
this is all about and that is okay so you all we have all the stuff was in um 20 21 the 12 gates were
00:49:57.800
12 pearls and every several gate was one pearl and the street was pure gold and it was transparent as
00:50:03.000
glass so what do we have here we have a city that is walled there was a walled city with 12 foundations
00:50:12.760
12 gates the gates have are made of of a pearl which a single pearl which means that's a hell
00:50:17.880
of a big ass oyster that they got this thing out of because it's made it says it's made of a single
00:50:23.560
oyster which a single pearl which is interesting because pearls only come from oysters i don't know
00:50:27.240
maybe there's some giant oysters hanging out somewhere that got used to make the city so it looks like
00:50:31.640
uh it appears to me i mean look at this thing it's like a a portal of some type like if if this was
00:50:39.000
in front of you and this kind of crazy swirl was the gate to get in i would i would call that a portal
00:50:45.640
interesting i thought about it that way that's interesting so the size of the city let's talk
00:50:50.920
about the size of it first before we get to the gates and the foundations i think that's some
00:50:53.560
something really relevant there so it's basically you have all the furlongs and unless you're a horse race
00:50:59.240
uh um someone who did a horse race you probably know how big a furlong is basically it's 15 000
00:51:06.840
miles wow i'm sorry i'm sorry it's gonna be 1500 excuse me 1500 miles all the way across so if you
00:51:13.320
take the foundation of it at the square the bottom is going to be a square definitely it would take up
00:51:18.280
over a third of the size of united states wow um if you go to my my revelation series on faithbyreason.net i
00:51:24.600
actually have a in the video i have a picture of someone who outlines how much of the space of the
00:51:29.400
united states the foundation of the new jerusalem would take up it would take up like all the east
00:51:33.240
coast all and all the way from like the east coast to roughly like nebraska damn it's going to be a
00:51:40.200
huge huge city and so it's going to be 1500 miles square so all square and high and that's one of the
00:51:48.680
reasons why it the earth has to be bigger because if let's say the earth is a globe it wouldn't fit
00:51:55.160
because it would it wouldn't fit on the curve it wouldn't be flat if it would be too big to fit on
00:51:59.960
the curve even if but even if the earth is is is a plane it would be so hot it would be beyond the
00:52:06.440
breathe of the um the the atmosphere now granted we probably won't be breathing the same way we do in
00:52:11.400
our current bodies but again it are it would be beyond the atmosphere of our current earth so this new
00:52:17.400
earth is going to have to be bigger just to accommodate this one gigantic city that's again
00:52:23.880
of a little more than a third of the size of the united states and it's interesting some people say
00:52:31.080
that we know that this is going to be square it's laid out for square which means it's going to be
00:52:34.760
a square on the bottom but it doesn't necessarily say it's a square on the top some people think the
00:52:38.280
new jerusalem is a pyramid because a pyramid can still be um you know still have the same height it
00:52:44.520
just comes to a point i find that fascinating because of what we what we've learned about
00:52:49.000
pyramids and how they are conductors of energy and how they're in top you just talk about the portal
00:52:53.880
aspect of it so pyramids have a lot of supernatural energy about them so it could be it might be it
00:53:01.400
could be a square so it's either going to be a cube or a pyramid and you know the bible doesn't
00:53:08.520
specifically say but i i find it intriguing i find the possibility of it being a pyramid very intriguing
00:53:13.880
and i put both of those images um on on my video on um on faithbyreason.net so let's talk about
00:53:21.720
the walls and the gates and the and the foundations here's the question why would the new jerusalem need
00:53:28.280
to have walls and gates right if you look at a city back in that time the walls were defensive
00:53:35.160
there was they were they were to keep out invaders they were to keep when the city was attacked the
00:53:41.000
walls were protected you i mean you've seen like you know the old if you looked at you know any type
00:53:45.000
of medieval um um media or game of thrones or anything like that you saw that all these cities
00:53:50.520
had what these these cities had walls around that keep the invaders out and they had gates and the
00:53:54.680
gates were where people could come and go but the gates were always barred they were guards at the
00:53:58.360
gates why would the new jerusalem if all evil has been punished and it's somewhere else over it's
00:54:03.640
separated from god what do you need these walls for well let's describe the walls the walls are
00:54:08.280
made of transparent gold gold if you know the pure of the gold is the pure pure completely pure gold
00:54:14.360
is actually transparent you can see through it so you have a wall around the city that you can see
00:54:17.800
through what's the point of that why does it why does it have those gates why are they made of pearls
00:54:22.920
why are the names of the 12 tribes of israel on them the foundation with all those stones and those
00:54:29.720
stones are i think they represent different types of light because when we talk about how god
00:54:33.560
is light it's not just bright white light i think it's multi-colored light it's it's it there's the
00:54:40.280
the heaven the whole spectrum yeah exactly the whole spectrum i think it's what these stones represent
00:54:44.120
is the entire spectrum of light all lights going to be there because white technically has all the
00:54:49.320
white light has all the other lights in it once you go once it becomes dimmer as it were then that's
00:54:54.840
when you start seeing reds and blues and things like that so but the foundation has the 12 the names of the
00:55:01.560
the 12 apostles what does this mean i think i'll give my overview statement then i'll explain what
00:55:05.960
i mean i think that the city and the way it's laid out represents the story of jehovah it's jehovah's
00:55:11.560
story in the city form so every time you see the city you're going to see jehovah's story what i mean
00:55:15.800
by that what's the foundation the foundation of the apostles the pot what did the apostles do they spread
00:55:21.160
the word of god the word of god is jesus the logos in the beginning was the word the word was
00:55:25.960
god the word was god the word became flesh and dwelt among us so the foundation of jehovah's
00:55:32.040
story is jesus is the word you have the city is so there are gates to the city why are there gates
00:55:41.400
and the gates are it says we'll see later it says the gates are always open which means you can you
00:55:46.760
can freely go in and out so the foundation is jesus the word and and in the city is where god will
00:55:52.840
dwell you can go into the city anytime you want but you have to be intentional the wall is around it
00:55:59.320
because you can in its transparency you can see into the city you so you can see so everyone can see
00:56:06.040
god right now but if you want to enter into god's presence you have to be intentional you have to go
00:56:10.200
through the gate you can't just walk in you can't just get to god any way you want you can see him
00:56:15.400
but you have to get to him you have to be intentional and go through the gate what are the gates
00:56:19.320
the gates have the names of the 12 tribes of israel the 12 tribes of israel how salvation
00:56:25.480
comes through the jews the god says paul says specifically salvation is of or or the origin of
00:56:31.080
salvation through the jews the 12 tribes of israel that's where jesus was a he was a jew so you get
00:56:36.840
to god by going through the 12 tribes of israel that's what the old testament is all about that's
00:56:41.240
how you get to god is through the jews however those gates are all made of pearl what is the
00:56:47.560
significance of that pearls come from oysters oysters are not kosher they're that represents
00:56:54.280
the gentiles so the gates have the names of the jews on them the israelites on them but they're for
00:57:00.200
all the nations because they're made of pearl so you can so the foundation is jesus you can see
00:57:07.320
what you can see through the transparency where that god is available everyone can see god if you want
00:57:12.120
to get to god you have to be intentional you have to go through the gate the gate is the old
00:57:16.120
testament the prophecies of about jesus but it's for the gentiles and so that's so when you look at
00:57:23.000
all of that that is the entire story of god god says come to me everyone's invited but you have to
00:57:29.240
want it it's based on the it's based on my on the word of god salvation is through the testimony the
00:57:36.360
testament of the jews but it's for all the gentiles so for eternity we will see the story of god
00:57:43.880
god and represented by the city it's funny that's interesting because a lot of the time lately we've
00:57:50.920
been talking about this idea that um the nature of reality is fractal and and you know so you have
00:57:57.480
like these stories of christ in the stars but you also have the stories of christ in like you know the
00:58:02.760
biology of mankind and then um that i've become pretty comfortable with the idea that if one side is is
00:58:10.760
all about rituals and ceremony um then maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing rituals and ceremony
00:58:17.800
aren't a bad thing it's just how you do things in a spiritual realm in this physical um uh you know
00:58:25.800
planet that we inhabit and so i just it to me it's like it's all symbolism and it's all i don't know
00:58:33.240
it's hard to explain but like there's a fractal nature even in that right where it's like
00:58:36.520
like now the story is being told on a physical scale on a on a landmass with a with a city on it
00:58:44.280
um it feels like you could uh you can do a pilgrimage to this city and walk around the
00:58:49.720
gates like i you can go in if you want but you can walk around the gates and see through these walls as
00:58:55.000
if they were like a tv or projector of some kind like i want to know what happened here like what
00:58:59.560
happened with and it's just like a keep walking and you'll you'll see this whole story otherwise god
00:59:04.360
i'll have to answer this question billions and billions of times like well i love that too
00:59:08.360
because it's like we we are living in a story we are living in in in a script right and then to see
00:59:14.040
the manifestation of that in a physical way how it actually happened right yeah yeah it's gonna be
00:59:19.960
it's an eternal memorial it's like you know when you go to when you go to washington dc and you see
00:59:23.400
all these statues and all these kind of yes it's it's that's what it is like the washington monument
00:59:27.160
which is a bad example because that's an obelisk but um it's just when you when you go to the new
00:59:33.560
jerusalem you say yep this is god's story this is what he was doing for you know from the beginning
00:59:38.840
up until now and he's and he finally gets what he wants now in the city it's going to be all the
00:59:43.160
rooms like um when you go to the gospel of john chapter 14 it says you know let not your heart be
00:59:49.000
troubled you believe in god believe also in me in my father's house are many mansions or many rooms
00:59:54.600
we're each going to have a room in the new jerusalem that's one of the reasons why it's so big
00:59:59.160
now we won't always live there but that's where we'll come we'll probably come there for
01:00:03.080
as you were saying uh raven for ceremonial reasons we'll probably come to the city because again that's
01:00:06.920
where that's where god's throne is we'll come there we'll stay in our particular room in there it's um
01:00:13.080
and then we'll probably go back out to the rest of the earth uh to our plot of land there or elsewhere
01:00:18.600
and that's where we're going to get into my crazy theory next week so we'll come and go as we
01:00:23.080
please and we'll have a special place for it and i think that all all the bricks and that walls in
01:00:28.280
in those walls i think each one of them is going to have one of our names on it because we saw earlier
01:00:32.040
in the book of of in the book of revelation it says that i think it was um to the church at
01:00:36.760
philadelphia or maybe sardis forgive me but our names are written on a stone and i think what what
01:00:44.600
if those stones are there are the stones that make up the wall of this massive city so each one of
01:00:49.880
us has our name on a stone i like that uh yeah you know it's uh it's got a kind of a beautiful tinge
01:00:56.840
to it yeah it does so um let's keep going i think we can get through it so and again the gate should
01:01:03.160
not be shut at all by day there should be no night there so that's interesting as i said the gates
01:01:08.120
won't be shut so which gives a wire the gates again it's just it's not for defensive reasons it's
01:01:12.600
just to show that this is jehovah's story the gate to to get to god is never closed at this point
01:01:17.640
everyone's welcome you just have to be intentional to get to get to them you have to go through
01:01:21.480
through the old testament jews and then also obviously the new testament and there should
01:01:25.800
be no night there so the question is is there no night at all in on the whole earth or is there just
01:01:33.080
no night in the new jerusalem not sure um either way it's it's it's pretty cool if there's no night at
01:01:40.680
all which makes sense because if god will dwell there and god is light and he so and there's no
01:01:45.960
darkness in him then there can never be any darkness there'll never be any night because
01:01:50.760
how do we measure night we measure it by the sun going down and coming back or around or whatever
01:01:56.680
however you want to see it um and it's but it says there does um there will be no there won't be a sun
01:02:01.800
there that's there will be no more people look at the moon as if it's actually a negative thing right
01:02:07.240
like um you know you mean number one a never-ending amount of theories about the nature of the moon and
01:02:13.160
what it actually is uh some sort of artificial satellite that these things watch us from
01:02:17.800
allegedly but also that the light is is different that comes off the moon i've heard people describe
01:02:23.560
it as like putrid and decaying it's it's like a dead light yes it's like it's like a cold light
01:02:29.640
yeah so uh it seems that there's actually like a negative connotation with that so if that actually
01:02:35.240
is a negative thing then to have that be removed would make sense well and the reason that we have night
01:02:40.600
is for recovery you know night tells our bodies and and the bodies of animals to sleep so that we can
01:02:47.080
repair we're gonna have new bodies that won't need the same kind of reparation of of of repairing
01:02:52.840
of reparations so there won't be any need for that so there'll be no they'll you know need there'll be
01:02:57.640
no sun no moon there won't be needed we won't need the because you know god's gonna be our light so
01:03:02.520
you know of course sun's beneficial you know vitamin d and and all the other beneficial things of the sun
01:03:07.640
and and and the moon although you said has a negative connotation it it also it you know
01:03:13.000
controls the tides but hey we'll be in the oceans oh yeah that's a good point too and oceans and again
01:03:18.600
we won't need to have that recovery period because we'll have we'll be in these higher dimensional
01:03:22.840
bodies and god will be the light the moon representing like uh the divine feminine which is like it links
01:03:29.560
into lilith right they call lilith in the bible it seems when they describe the night monster that they're
01:03:34.200
actually talking about something akin to to lilith um yeah so i'm gonna do an episode on that as a
01:03:41.640
bonus episode of my patreons on on lilith when we get to the um adam and eve portion of genesis but yeah
01:03:47.560
can can you uh address this so this guy is saying we're we're reading the bible but we're not reading
01:03:52.840
it as like a metaphorical translation we're reading it is that what it actually says so this guy's disagreeing
01:03:57.800
he says no night equals no darkness darkness means death so it means eternal life it can mean it can
01:04:03.720
be multiple it can be more than one thing it also you know night can mean i don't well i don't think
01:04:09.240
night means death because there was night of there was day and night before original sin and there was
01:04:14.600
no death no physical mortal death before original sin oh that's interesting so you can use night as a
01:04:20.440
as a symbol of it but you know we don't die at night we i think we replenish and why would you use
01:04:25.880
night as a symbol of death when they do mention death here you know it's like yeah i i don't know
01:04:31.560
i'm just saying i i i don't want to completely dismiss what what the listener was saying um but i i
01:04:37.240
don't see i i don't think that you can all you can see because sometimes night is spoken of negatively
01:04:43.320
in the bible so i so there may be a point there but i i think if that's a part of if that is a point
01:04:49.880
if that is a point of it i think it's a minor point i think the the biggest point is that there'll be no
01:04:53.240
need for restoration and that there will be no time when we are not in the light of god and not
01:04:57.720
not in the presence of god so i mean darkness again you know the people who are going to be away
01:05:03.480
um separated from god for eternity they'll be in eternal darkness so so in that sense you can't
01:05:08.040
say darkness is a can be a symbol of eternal can be a symbol of eternal death i don't think that night
01:05:14.040
necessarily means death but i think darkness can and since night is dark to a degree there's the moon
01:05:19.320
is still out so there is some light but the people who are going to be separated are going to be in
01:05:24.120
darkness with no light whatsoever not even the light of a moon and stars a quick uh aside in mr
01:05:30.360
popo's torture chamber it's always white it's always bright white there is no night time it's just
01:05:36.840
vast arrays of white the landscape is white well i think it's torture because sleep deprivation is
01:05:43.880
torture for us right now you know if people if you if you were in like what was it guantanamo bay one
01:05:50.840
of the things they would do is they would put the people in in these rooms that were fluorescent lights
01:05:56.040
all the time they could not sleep and that that messes you up because you know without rim sleep and
01:06:02.920
you know in mirask and i i'm not 위한 enough beef i think it is applicable it's a long time
01:06:12.600
so i respect it because i don't believe in the world that can be bombed well that's more of the
01:06:16.280
AIA's upperRelior for these whole life and i can't believe that there was still a degree in order to
01:06:19.320
think that life is the world of doomでは not working but they're thinking about life what
01:06:25.120
Our children have been free where behind this conflict is better than one of the medieval
01:06:31.880
is going to be there and that only those who are believers will be in this realm so bring the glory
01:06:38.640
and honor of nations into it well that means that they're going to be nations um in in on this new
01:06:45.160
earth interesting and that also there's still some sort of room because it talks about they're not
01:06:50.500
being evil in the city and there won't be evil anywhere but there will be nations and um so there
01:06:59.720
will be people who you know and what nations are are i guess they're just going to be gatherings
01:07:07.020
of people who will have a singular purpose but but they're not going to be i i think this
01:07:15.840
is part of the reward that certain believers are going to get that they're going to be
01:07:18.860
over some i think they're going to have that in the millennial reign but it looks like they're
01:07:22.220
also going to be people who are going to have certain authority in the yeah kings of the
01:07:27.660
earth yeah they're going to be people who have authority in the new jerusalem and they're going
01:07:32.080
to be people who have who who have earned it i'm sure like you know the disciples will be among them
01:07:37.440
the some of the other great men and women of god and probably people we've never heard of
01:07:40.980
um who have done great things in the name of god they're going to be rewarded by leading so basically
01:07:46.520
what they're going to be doing these kings are going to be leading they're not going to be dominating
01:07:50.900
don't don't think of them as the politicians and kings that we have to this day who dominate others
01:07:55.620
the definition of a leader and i think we talked about this maybe we talked about this one time
01:07:59.580
we had john leonard on but the definition of a leader is someone who facilitates the purpose
01:08:04.160
and progress of others a leader is not about him him or herself a leader is about others so these
01:08:09.620
leaders these kings their job is not going to be hey bring me glory i'm such a great king they're
01:08:13.760
going to be like no how can i help you grow i've grown i've grown so i grew so much you know
01:08:19.860
when i was alive that i'm i want to help others grow i want to help you know people who who did
01:08:25.660
not get as much knowledge as i did um when i was on earth i want to lead a group and i'm going to help
01:08:31.120
them grow so i think that's what these kings these leaders are going to be they're going to be nations
01:08:35.960
maybe these nations are different levels advanced ones who are who only need a you know a certain
01:08:41.400
amount of teaching and maybe there's some who are really young just made up of really young
01:08:44.100
christians maybe you know babies who were aborted maybe people who became christians on their death
01:08:49.160
bed who don't know very much they're going to need a different type of leader who's going to just break
01:08:54.040
everything down to them and so that's so that nation will just be of those but if you're more advanced
01:08:59.740
you don't need to be in that nation you need to be in a nation that's going to give you different
01:09:03.460
types of information and different types of growth opportunities so that's a possibility for what
01:09:07.500
those these different nations are going to be like again speculation i don't know for sure
01:09:11.780
but this is just you know a thought but it could be i can be completely wrong well that's a lot of
01:09:17.000
what um there was a time when i i kind of i guess in in a childlike outlook would have would have
01:09:24.080
assumed like oh when you die um you suddenly know there's no more secrets you know everything you know
01:09:29.420
you go and and then god's like here you go here's all this stuff you've been worrying about um but then
01:09:34.000
even just given actual near-death experiences it's like people come back they've gleamed some sort of
01:09:40.360
information they certainly don't have a handle on everything and it wasn't like um you know you
01:09:45.800
don't get stories where it's like and i knew everything everything made sense and i all the
01:09:50.580
mysteries were unlocked it's like you know um and i and that i i kind of appreciate that because
01:09:56.140
whatever comes next is a lot longer than whatever we're doing here so the idea that we just graduate
01:10:03.180
to that and then know everything um i would very much like the learning to continue yeah we talked
01:10:09.140
about this a couple weeks ago was that was one of the myths that we're just going to get this
01:10:12.860
download of information we're suddenly going to know everything there's nothing biblical about that
01:10:16.140
in fact i could argue that there's a part of the bible that says the opposite and that is revelation
01:10:21.320
chapter one verse one the revelation of jesus christ which god gave to him right god when jesus ascended
01:10:28.440
to heaven now when before this when he was you know in eternity past he was with god and once he knew
01:10:33.720
everything but he voluntarily gave that up to become a human being so the baby jesus didn't know you know
01:10:38.860
all the secrets of the universe it says very clearly that he grew that that jesus as he became
01:10:44.520
grew into adulthood he grew in knowledge and grace and favor with god and man so i mean that jesus was
01:10:49.300
learning stuff god was teaching him stuff but in his 33 years god didn't have time to teach him
01:10:53.960
everything so when he gets to heaven god has to reveal stuff back to him that he already knew
01:10:59.600
before so so what that means that so if jesus has to go to heaven and he learned stuff from god
01:11:04.900
you think we're not gonna right right and his the first 30 years of his life is just kind of a
01:11:13.520
blank page you know well the first yeah the first 30 years he was learning god was teaching him all this
01:11:20.100
stuff he was teaching him a bunch of stuff that he in those last three years of his ministry that's when
01:11:24.880
he was teaching you know the beatitudes and the parables and all this kind of people he was he was
01:11:28.380
telling everyone what god had taught him to that to that point but keep in mind there was you know
01:11:35.060
thousands many many thousands of years of information plus whatever was going on before creation that he
01:11:42.580
so i think we're going to learn and we'll have eternity to learn and grow
01:11:48.220
and i think we we have time to get into a little bit the first half of of chapter 22 because that's
01:11:54.280
also pertains to what's going on in new jerusalem so tough you want to pull that up
01:11:57.900
chapter 22 do we get to the end of 21 yeah okay good okay and he showed me a pure river of water
01:12:08.960
of life clear as crystal proceeding out of the throne of god and of the lamb in the midst of
01:12:12.460
the street on either side of the river there was a tree of life which bear 12 manner of fruits that
01:12:16.220
yielded her fruit every month and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations
01:12:19.760
interesting there will be no more curse but the throne of god and the lamp shall be in it and his
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servant shall serve him and they will see his face and his name will be on their foreheads and again
01:12:27.520
there will be no night there no need for candle nor neither light of the sun for the lord gives
01:12:31.920
them light john's reiterating again verse six and he says to me these things are faithful and true
01:12:35.880
the lord god of the holy prophets and his angels showed these things to his servants so john's wrapping
01:12:39.860
about to wrap it up so i want to talk about these first um uh four verses there's a river
01:12:46.160
pure river of the water of life from the throne of god that throne would be in the new jerusalem
01:12:50.360
and there would be the tree of life what is it what is the tree of life in the river of life
01:12:55.700
therefore well it says that in in the end of verse two that these leaves of the trees for the healing
01:13:00.780
of the nations so there's going to be healing why would there need to be healing because there's going
01:13:07.180
to be there will be damage what kind of damage as we grow there's going to be mistakes we talked about
01:13:15.140
this a couple weeks ago we're going to be sinless we're not going to make we're not going to make
01:13:19.960
sin because sin is intentionally doing what you know is wrong a mistake is just is being wrong
01:13:26.640
innocently we can make mistakes but we will heal from them because we're going to be growing and
01:13:31.420
learning and as we grow and learn there's going to be some painful aspects so anytime you grow there's
01:13:35.960
some pain involved and but it's going to be healed by these by the trees of these nations i'm sorry
01:13:42.400
by the leaves of these trees and they're going to heal the nations so if my hypothesis is correct
01:13:47.560
that these nations are going to be areas where people are learning and growing well those nations
01:13:52.140
are going to be need to be some healing because there may be some disagreements there may be you
01:13:56.600
know some pain of learning and those leaves are there to to to heal them and i think that might be
01:14:01.240
more symbolic than physical it may not be people were rubbing leaves on us per se but i think i i it could
01:14:08.120
be literal and i tend to default to the literal but this could also be um symbolic allegorical
01:14:13.160
of how these leaves when you come to the new jerusalem you're going to get this healing of any
01:14:18.240
of the pain you're going through as you grow and the tree of life is going to be there to freely eat of
01:14:22.180
it and that remember that tree of life was in the garden of eden everyone focuses on the tree of the
01:14:27.780
knowledge of good and evil but the tree of life is there and it also physically heals so we're going to
01:14:33.360
have physical bodies so um they're resurrection bodies but what if we i don't know maybe maybe
01:14:38.560
there's maybe we'll do damage maybe we'll fall off some and hurt our arm i don't know it's interesting
01:14:43.140
that it goes on you're going to repair it actually states like oh there's going to be 12 fruits and
01:14:48.860
that every month you're going to be able to pick these fruits that's interesting that's that's time
01:14:52.700
you're saying so there's there's 12 fruits for uh there were yeah there's 12 for each of the
01:14:59.100
of the nations which are the uh those nations are going to be i assume the the tribes of israel
01:15:06.600
like that's like how you how these nations would be divided right i don't know it could be um but
01:15:13.060
it's not specific there it could be the it could be more it could be like a ton of nations i mean
01:15:17.060
we're gonna it's gonna be a lot of land space and i don't know these nations are going to be
01:15:20.600
organized under a leader and as i said previously i think these leaders are going to be the ones that
01:15:24.900
are shepherding people these groups based on you know their needs so there yeah there may be more
01:15:31.260
than 12 maybe hundreds thousands of them yeah because i'm just stuck on the and the leaves of
01:15:37.300
the tree were for the healing of the nations and they were 12 manner of the leaves of the tree
01:15:42.480
were for right yeah there's 12 fruits gotcha there are 12 types of fruits doesn't mean they're
01:15:46.440
just 12 nations right right and i think that we're still going to be in a 12 month the way we're
01:15:53.220
going to measure time in this sequence it's still going to be some form of a 12 month cycle
01:15:58.980
you know i'm not saying that this is the connection at all but it does bring to mind this idea that like
01:16:06.060
you know in the amazon they they use um a combination of indigenous plant leaves in order to produce ayahuasca
01:16:14.680
which they i wouldn't recommend doing it but it's they they it's a it's a healing process for them
01:16:20.300
right and now we in the west are like utilizing things like ayahuasca trips and such to heal people
01:16:26.180
of like psychological issues ptsd depression anxiety uh that like and i just wonder it's like
01:16:33.540
when you hear the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations um in what way would they
01:16:39.220
be utilized i don't know and and i don't know if that's such a stretch just because of that whole
01:16:44.640
fractal nature again right it's like these plants and and and and fruits and such are here for us to
01:16:50.620
use one way or another um we could use them badly and then we can go to a realm and we can communicate
01:16:56.660
with disembodied spirits that wish us ill will but the point of the the the fact of the matter is
01:17:02.380
we can do this and go to another realm uh in in the form of ayahuasca so i i just wonder if it's
01:17:08.660
maybe something like that yeah it could be i mean we we really don't know and i think that so
01:17:14.740
the question might be why would god tell us give us this this these images and not tell us exactly
01:17:20.800
what they mean i think it's for the same reason he doesn't tell us a lot about angels the elohim
01:17:24.640
because you know we would screw it up we would worship them in the bible proper we were only given
01:17:30.080
the names of two angels michael and gabriel now there are a few more that are named in in the book
01:17:34.280
of enoch but there are countless angels they all have names why we only know two of them because
01:17:40.940
god knows that we'll worship them because we've done it in the past god's like the more information
01:17:45.260
i give you the more opportunity you're going to screw it up i'm going to be very i'm going to be
01:17:51.200
very judicious in what i tell you because you're going to corrupt it so i think that how how are the
01:17:56.660
leads going to be used i don't know i think if we knew if god said you're going to take this
01:17:59.680
leave and make a pulses out of it and you're going to drink it oh really let's do that with the
01:18:03.480
leave we find out then we're going to end up with like you said with ayahuasca and heroin and stuff
01:18:07.160
like that because he knows that we are going to take anything that's good and we're going to corrupt
01:18:10.980
it right right and also remember we're in spiritual warfare right now we and there's counterintelligence
01:18:18.000
happening yes and what if the the evil angels know too much about what the neutralism neutralism is
01:18:25.280
going to be like and they use that to their advantage and they corrupt that so i think god has to be
01:18:30.360
very judicious in what he says because again we don't know a lot about heaven we don't know a lot
01:18:35.600
about the neutralism and i think that's not because god wants to hide it from us but because he knows
01:18:39.740
that the more it's like like i've got you know i have a 10 year old and an eight year old i there's
01:18:45.840
certain things i'm not going to tell them right now right because you know you know they're not
01:18:50.680
ready for it i'm not going to tell them about sex i mean my 10 year old i mean in a couple years
01:18:53.540
i'm gonna have to start talking to him about it but i'm not going to tell my eight year old hey
01:18:56.500
here's when a man and a woman who want to get together they take off their clothes they do it
01:19:00.560
i'm not gonna it's not that it's a bad thing i mean in the right context you know sex is a beautiful
01:19:05.400
thing but he ain't ready to hear it and if he hears it from you right now it's going to mess him up
01:19:10.220
he shouldn't be seeing pornography right now he shouldn't be seeing a naked woman right now
01:19:13.820
because it's going to screw him up so i think that's the same thing with god god knows right now we
01:19:17.580
are children we cannot there's information we cannot handle so we can only hint at it
01:19:22.420
so i can just tell my my son that you know one day you're going to find the right woman
01:19:26.920
and you're going to have a beautiful life together and that's all i can tell them right now i can't
01:19:31.140
tell them the mechanics of everything that's going to go on with it
01:19:33.920
so i think we have to take that tact yeah yeah um i mean a lot of it has to do with our own filter
01:19:44.380
that it passes through you know what i mean because i was just thinking about that as you were saying
01:19:47.440
that i'm like if i told that to my son who's nine um it would just pass through the wrong filter
01:19:53.240
entirely and he would misinterpret every aspect of it you know every inch along the way i'll tell you
01:19:59.860
a personal story because this is something that um john lindhart and i were working on for maybe later
01:20:03.960
next year we want to come up with some courses to help people with you know certain like um mental
01:20:10.360
health struggles that we have and one of them is pornography for men i mean we all know it's a horror
01:20:14.160
it's it's tough and i think that if and and john helped me we all we've all been exposed to it and
01:20:20.280
we've all had the issues and some of the ways that john and his team have have have come up with
01:20:24.900
have really helped a lot of men because it's mostly a man thing women do it to a degree but it's mostly
01:20:29.620
a man thing yeah and but it but my story that i have is that the first time i was exposed to it
01:20:34.880
was by accident when i was eight years old we were it was there was a rainstorm and i was with my
01:20:41.800
grandmother at the time we had there was a rainstorm and it was a lot of wind it blew a bunch of stuff
01:20:45.780
out you know from everywhere and my grandmother tells me to go out and rake up some rake up the
01:20:50.240
leaves clean up our yard so i'll go out there and one of the things that had blown away towards
01:20:53.620
into our yard was a page from hustler magazine wow like what's this yeah and i see this i'm like
01:20:59.920
you know you know hustler they don't hustler is like the gynecological view so i look down i see this
01:21:06.420
i see something i've never seen before and i was like whoa what is this and again even at eight
01:21:13.180
years old it was oh something inside me said this is this is something i did i know what but i mean
01:21:19.580
i can to right now i can see that image in my head because it was such an indelible imprint on my
01:21:25.340
eight-year-old psyche yeah that's how strong this is uh-huh and of course it led to the next thing so
01:21:30.900
the next thing you know um you know my my friends are bringing their their father's playboys to the
01:21:36.640
bathroom we look at them and then you know you go to the next stage where you get in high school and
01:21:40.420
you get a you know i'm older than you guys that we had it was videotapes and cds back then
01:21:44.720
and then again you go you keep going to the point where i now porn is so easy to get it's just it's nuts
01:21:50.820
it's a disaster it's a disaster i mean you could just i have you have to work to get porn back when i was
01:21:56.580
young now you can just get a million hours of it literally for free yeah that's why like my my son
01:22:03.820
is nine he doesn't have internet access at all and i'm realizing like i don't know when i was
01:22:09.220
exposed to i was exposed to a lot of things like way too early and every once in a while i look at
01:22:13.100
him and i'm like i'm pretty sure i'm like beating some sort of record here like this kid's not been
01:22:18.560
exposed to anything yet um you know it's not like he he doesn't have he if he does i almost feel
01:22:25.240
like i'd have seen a change in him because if it happens it's got to happen on his friend's time
01:22:29.200
or something yeah they're looking yeah there's just something he would detect just a little bit
01:22:33.560
and i'm like no he's still running around just head in the clouds innocent as ever you know and
01:22:38.280
it's like i love that my son when we're watching a you know a tv movie or something and the man or
01:22:43.320
woman kiss he covers his eyes i'm like yeah i'll do that i cover his eyes i don't let him see
01:22:47.160
anything like that you know he covers his own eyes my youngest he's like oh i don't want to see that
01:22:50.700
that's gross like yes it's keep it gross for as long as good super gross disgusting don't worry about
01:22:55.140
that at all yeah we're doing something irreparable to to the kids um and and it's you know it's not
01:23:02.720
good it's merkel merkel was saying on his show that someone had told him that uh he was like a
01:23:09.160
higher up exec in the porn industry and he was like some of these girls that are doing this stuff
01:23:13.540
aren't even people they're like literal succubus demons and every time you do this you're like
01:23:18.660
offering a sacrifice to them i'm like ah dude i was like i kind of believe it it feels that way
01:23:23.720
there's certainly a spiritual exchange that's that's for sure yeah that's for sure wow that's
01:23:29.380
deep that's what we're saying is like watch the homemade stuff if you
01:23:32.860
don't do that it's probably demons too dog i do you know i the same thing happened to me though
01:23:40.080
somebody in the chat said we've all found i think it might have been lucas uh said we've all found
01:23:44.120
yeah uh a bag of magazines in the woods and stuff it's like yeah i found it in a we were dumpster
01:23:50.300
diving as kids because we found out that uh uh 7-eleven threw out all their game informer like
01:23:56.340
their video game magazines they just chuck them in the dumpster when they're done so you know somebody
01:24:01.440
told us that and we went and sure enough all the magazines were in the dumpster but all the
01:24:06.700
magazines were in the dumpster and you know not good it's it's a disaster exposing children to those
01:24:12.320
sorts of things when i'm when i moved in with my when i was 13 i moved in with my mom and my stepdad
01:24:17.060
and you know i was cleaning out the garage i don't know why this happens when i'm cleaning stuff
01:24:21.640
but then i run under my stepdad's stash of there it goes yep innocently i wasn't even i wasn't
01:24:27.560
trying to clean out the garage and there there's his stash and like oh well yeah the next thing you
01:24:33.180
know you're sitting there i i remember pulling those out of the and they're just all we spread
01:24:37.200
them all out on the pavement it's just me and a bunch of like a gang of 10 year olds just staring
01:24:41.300
at this shit on the pavement well would you look at that would you look at that like cars are driving
01:24:44.820
by we're all just staring at it on the floor um yeah that's good my mind is it's it's addictive
01:24:50.560
yeah i mean it tempted the freaking angels right i mean they came down and it's it's it's the power
01:24:58.960
of the bajajay yep wow that's it that's it i you know try to keep your kids from it as long as you
01:25:04.680
possibly can it's a it's a when you almost an uphill battle for such a weird thing because when you do
01:25:09.900
look at it objectively which i have done a couple of times now i'm like this thing is kind of goofy
01:25:14.100
yeah yeah i remember in my um my bachelor party i you know um i went to we went to new orleans
01:25:21.120
which is one of my favorite cities i just love the food and the culture of new orleans and that's
01:25:25.060
what i wanted i just wanted to hang out with my buddies and just eat good food you know drink you
01:25:29.040
know tie one on you let's you know get some good get some sazeracs and whatever and just you know
01:25:33.200
enjoy the culture but of course on the last night they're like let's go to a strip club i'm like i
01:25:36.820
don't want to do that guy i'm not if yeah i've but i go and i went and you know they were doing
01:25:42.840
they were doing their thing they were having a good time i'm looking at him and i i did something
01:25:46.320
that they don't do i like look these women in the eye i just looked at them and when i did that i'm
01:25:52.140
like you know what these women don't want to be here yeah you could tell i can look in your eye and
01:25:56.200
tell you you don't want to be here you're not happy yeah you you you're just doing this you're
01:26:00.820
doing it for the money which i get a horrifying exchange yeah on all levels and it was such a turnoff
01:26:06.780
and i have not i've not been to one since because it's just like this is sad it really is these are
01:26:12.440
these women no little girl grows up saying you know what i want to do when i grow up i want to you
01:26:17.160
know take off my clothes and dance in front of a bunch of a bunch of leering yeah but feminism wants
01:26:21.880
to convince you that that's empowering shout out to smurfy i also have never been in a strip club i
01:26:27.060
just couldn't imagine you know because it's just the fact of the matter of paying somebody to pretend
01:26:31.040
they like you right it's it's it's pathetic for both sides it's sad for the women it's pathetic
01:26:36.660
for the men the men who they are yeah yeah being in a strip club is like watching michael jordan in
01:26:41.100
space jam like at the end where they're like you're going to be in this in the chains and you're going
01:26:45.100
to be playing basketball forever that's exactly what it is yeah very sad i don't even like you know
01:26:50.000
when i go to a when i go to a restaurant and the server is like overly nice to me i'm like you're only
01:26:55.640
doing this because you want to tip and you know you appreciate the nice so i i can't do that don't
01:27:00.120
pretend to be you know i would much rather you not have to pretend to like somebody that's not a good
01:27:04.780
thing uh and then of course yeah i don't just so look look i have to address this because because ed
01:27:09.960
is like looking at this they keep calling me master and and i just want to say and i keep having to say
01:27:14.960
these people don't actually respect me they just know that um one day somebody's going to look at that
01:27:21.180
and go like what is this guy doing and and like yeah to their credit it's it's going to be very funny
01:27:25.860
when people think that i'm a cult leader flamboyantly dressed uh straight man with like
01:27:31.120
a whole bunch of followers it's like this is a cult man they're calling him masters putting the ball in
01:27:35.980
your mouth with the yeah i think it's time to wrap it up it's not good it's not good 100 bite me in
01:27:42.720
the ass can we can we just discuss this last one verse four real quick or you know three and four
01:27:47.160
oh yeah yeah yeah you're right that's interesting yeah i had a dream last night ed and and and this
01:27:53.040
made me think about it number four where it says his name shall be on their foreheads um i had a
01:27:56.960
dream where i i was like having a dialogue and i could almost see like a man's face and then i woke
01:28:03.860
up because somebody touched my forehead and when i woke up there was nothing there but in my mind i i
01:28:09.720
was like i was just having a conversation with god and that's literally the end of the entire
01:28:13.200
experience but that was like what was lingering my head was i was talking to god and then i woke up
01:28:18.060
because something touched me on my forehead but there was i can like the even the spot that i'm
01:28:22.160
touching i it's like you know you can remember it was right there very strange but i just saw that
01:28:26.840
right it says and they shall see his face and his name shall be in uh in their foreheads on or in
01:28:32.720
in and that's specific so let me talk about both halves of this verse so they shall see his face
01:28:37.580
what that means is that we will be able to experience the full presence of god we'll be
01:28:44.020
able to see him as he is because remember um we may have talked about this before like when moses
01:28:48.800
asked to see god and god's like no man can see me and live because you know he's at he's at pure
01:28:54.640
like that pure energy but you know moses could see the back god hit him in a cliff and a cliff of a
01:28:59.080
mountain and he could see him pass by we'll be able to see him full on because we will occupy the same
01:29:03.560
space we will be like him in the sense that we will be able to actually see his face that doesn't
01:29:09.240
necessarily mean that he has a eyes nose mouth maybe maybe but what i'm thinking is we will be able
01:29:14.180
to see his full countenance we'll be able to fully experience him he won't be he won't be holding
01:29:18.840
anything back from us for our safety we'll be able to fully experience god and i think that's going to
01:29:23.220
be unbelievable because you know you have the you know the source of all information the the the
01:29:30.240
eternal light i it's beyond our comprehension but we'll be able to comprehend them and our name
01:29:36.320
will be in here in in their foreheads what that harkens back to is the the shema which is um you
01:29:43.860
know the the the hero israel the lord your god is one and you will you know that's that's what all
01:29:50.840
jews are supposed to recite and it says you're supposed to put the shema um which is you know
01:29:56.280
it was basically the first of the ten commandments you put it on your doorpost and you also have it in
01:30:01.200
your right hand and in your forehead now that doesn't mean that the ancient israelites were walking
01:30:04.920
around with this with this written on their forehead it was in their foreheads it was in
01:30:10.160
their mind in your right hand your so your right hand is what you is your action your forehead is
01:30:15.940
is your mind so when it says keep my law keep my keep the shema in your right hand in your forehead
01:30:21.040
which is it vividly says that in leviticus and in deuteronomy it's saying that keep the word of god
01:30:26.160
the presence of god in your mind and in your right hand and so it means your actions should be all about
01:30:30.840
god and your mind should be focused on god so the name of god comes to the mark of the beast right
01:30:35.480
because it's yeah instead you're putting the beast's name there right exactly even though i think the
01:30:41.280
mark of the beast will be physical i i think it also will be um remember that's all satan does he
01:30:48.900
mimics god right so he's mimicking in that same way that's why the mark will be in the right hand in
01:30:54.820
their forehead so i think it will be worshiping that's what you do with your head but i also think
01:30:59.220
it's going to be a physical mark that's going to you know make changes to you this calls to the
01:31:04.180
idea of the pineal gland too like you know how the new age would be like enlightened in this like
01:31:08.240
like yeah third eye situation yeah i hear about that a lot and i'm still i haven't studied it but i
01:31:14.120
but people say you're like pineal glands calcified like why is that why does it have so much bloody
01:31:17.800
calcium in it i don't i don't know it produces dimethyl tryptamine right which is responsible for
01:31:24.340
these like really wild experiences where you can seemingly realm shift depending on on if you smoke
01:31:29.700
it but yeah i mean what's interesting about it is that even in it so it does have the makeup of an
01:31:35.180
eye like the gland is is got some uh anatomy about it that is close to an eye like in in lizards it
01:31:42.960
actually has a retina and a lens and i i used to own a bearded dragon you could look between their
01:31:49.060
eyes on the top of their head and you could see a small foggy lens um yeah yeah so this thing is
01:31:55.920
very much like an eye and in its nature right so i i find that fascinating i wonder if that has
01:32:00.940
anything to do with it it just might i mean i need to do some study on the pineal gland because i i've
01:32:05.240
kind of shied away from because it seems so occulty but again like we've been saying before
01:32:08.440
a lot of these things are just corrupted forms of good things so if it's in your body it's it's good
01:32:13.920
it's for it it's for you but it's but maybe they've corrupted it maybe they've definitely
01:32:18.420
corrupted it so and again i have to admit that you know growing up i shied away from anything that
01:32:23.620
reeked of the occult because i did not want to be a part of it but i but as i've grown i have to
01:32:29.180
have to come to the realization that everything that god made he made good he made it for our benefit
01:32:34.300
but it can be corrupted by evil and we need to separate the corruption from the truth and from the
01:32:39.440
reality yeah so i'm not going to open my pineal gland in order to you know uh do whatever and go
01:32:47.160
into spiritual planes and do things i'm not supposed to do but i need to know where that line of
01:32:51.100
demarcation is so i don't cross over it yeah i i started my whole journey like looking at the occult
01:32:57.340
and everything and um what's clear to me is like there's definitely something there it's not like
01:33:02.940
bullshit theories and and practices that don't yield any results like there there there seems to be
01:33:08.980
something really spiritual about us it just sucks because christianity and maybe for a good reason
01:33:14.240
i'm not saying that that they were wrong in this but it's like it has stepped back away from those
01:33:18.600
things so dramatically and i think it's wise to focus on christ but i don't think it's wise to say
01:33:23.600
that these things are not real because then what happens if somebody discovers that they are well then
01:33:28.980
they feel as though they've been lied to right and that's the same same reason you don't show your kid
01:33:33.920
porn when you're explaining the birds and the bees right it's kind of like a little too much you'll
01:33:38.980
understand it yeah it is i i think for i think if you're a younger christian if you're just getting
01:33:44.020
into it i think you should stay as far away from that as possible but i think once you've grown
01:33:47.620
i i then i think that's that that may be a little safer for you to to go deeper into some of these
01:33:53.680
areas and which again that's what faith by reason faith by reason is not for like baby christians
01:33:57.500
it's for you know nephilim death squad is not for baby christians for people who are who want to go
01:34:02.400
deeper and are mature enough for it because if you're not mature enough where i think paul said
01:34:05.740
this himself paul said don't be a stumbling block to you know to younger christians so you know it's
01:34:12.760
it's remember it was the the part about eating meat sacrificed to idols and paul said if you're a
01:34:18.460
mature christian yeah go ahead and eat it because you know you're not you can eat the meat because you
01:34:21.840
know it's just meat but if you're a young christian don't stay away from that don't eat that meat
01:34:27.000
because you may be leading them astray because that young christian might say well i guess it's
01:34:30.700
okay to to you know do these this adult idol worship because there's mature christians doing it
01:34:35.420
yeah i would never let you like drive a car without first understanding all the ways in which a car
01:34:41.000
accident can happen and how to be safe inside the car right so yeah it's kind of like that we're running
01:34:47.120
up on time that we got to get out of here definitely okay but i wanted to ask you this because now that
01:34:51.640
were on this just before you popped on uh on the stream i was talking to to raven and i said should
01:34:58.240
we be like not making this show not about who we are um but should we be tailoring it more toward the
01:35:05.700
the average church going christian because is this is this show for somebody who uh who already is in
01:35:14.340
their faith and is like possibly having more questions about it but also i understand sometimes we say
01:35:20.480
some things like especially when it's just me and david we go off the rails and i can't help it
01:35:24.460
um so i'm like should we tone that back and and we decided we're like nah i don't care like listen
01:35:29.020
you gotta this is who we are and if we do it any other way it's gonna be bad but you know what top
01:35:35.220
is this show for necessarily for people who are in church that are because there's a lot of people
01:35:41.980
that are like i'm not in church and i had no real spirituality but like this helped me kind of make
01:35:47.000
heads and tails and it's like a it's a jumping on point but it's a hard one right because we're
01:35:50.900
talking about occult stuff and you could get real mixed up before ed answers that i just want to say
01:35:55.560
like when i make content i don't do this on purpose but it just so turns out that i make content for me
01:36:01.840
in other words like i am that person who is told that these things aren't valid occult things and the
01:36:09.620
more i'm looking at them the more i'm like no there's something here and i don't have any answers
01:36:13.980
for it from a christian source and now i get to make content like that from that perspective and
01:36:21.320
and so i recognize that if i were have stumbled upon this show when i was a kid i never did
01:36:27.240
anything i never was a practicing occultist or anything like that um and i was never an atheist
01:36:31.620
either but this would have been a lifeline to me so here's two answers one is faith by reason i
01:36:39.700
started it's for more mature christians it's and i did it specifically because like you just said
01:36:43.740
raven it's it was i made it for me for people who are on my journey because i figured there had to
01:36:47.640
be there are lots of stuff that's for younger christians there's i think most stuff out there
01:36:51.380
is for christians who are only at a certain level but there there's a dearth of information not very
01:36:55.460
much for christians who want to go deeper so i did make it for that that said there are two things
01:37:01.440
that i'm doing right now that will be for younger christians i think the bible study for one i think
01:37:05.700
if you're mature or young the fact that we're going into this with no preconceived notions in my
01:37:09.800
patreon bible study that can be for younger christians and the q a thing that i that i'm
01:37:15.040
going to start i want us to do with with uh john pretty soon is going to be where people just ask
01:37:19.600
whatever question you have it can be a complex question or a basic question i'm not going to say
01:37:26.020
oh that's that's that's i don't why was he's born of a virgin that's a basic question i'm not going
01:37:30.260
to you know shun that that's it's a good question that a young christian might have and i'll be happy
01:37:34.640
to answer any of those questions you know through the the show that we'll be doing in the future
01:37:38.860
as well as you know what's on my patreon right now but i i don't i i don't dumb it down i really don't
01:37:45.980
and that's why i want the q a for people who are like well this is a little too much can you bring
01:37:50.940
it down that's when i'll maybe bring it down a little bit more but but my audience the audience
01:37:56.160
i'm cultivating the niche is for christians who have a little level of maturity and they want to
01:38:01.080
keep going beyond what they're getting maybe from their church because if you go to a big church
01:38:05.580
they have to service a lot of people and you know the stuff we talk about is maybe only going to
01:38:11.280
appeal to maybe 10 of that church necessarily right and it's a lot of unpacking about the minutiae of
01:38:17.100
strange things to people and it yet it doesn't become conducive to a larger audience but i think
01:38:21.320
like at the end of the day i have to focus on pursuing the truth and i can't focus on passing it
01:38:29.940
through a filter you know like this isn't a difficult show for me to do because all it requires
01:38:34.420
is like you know probably shouldn't swear that much or get too obtuse and that honestly i'm not
01:38:38.520
really like that my twitter profile is inflammatory but that's because of the nature of twitter
01:38:42.460
um in my own you know uh expression i'm not really like that and so if i had to start then passing it
01:38:50.080
through a filter it would affect the the message and i'm only in it for the truth that's that's all
01:38:55.160
i'm looking for and so i think that's what makes this thing go is other people who are also looking
01:39:00.740
for the truth and and really aren't concerned with whether or not i'm joel olsteening it up and
01:39:05.780
and passing it through one thing while clearly being something else yeah yeah yeah so if this is if this
01:39:12.540
is steak joel olstein is like breast milk yes careful there's some people that are into that shout
01:39:17.920
out toad um okay my co-host okay we got to bring it in for a landing we got another show in in five
01:39:23.940
minutes so and one more time let the audience know where they can find you next week what are
01:39:27.920
we doing oh yes that's right god will next week we're going to talk about more detail about what
01:39:32.280
we'll be doing um in in the new jerusalem um my opinions that's when i get into my my crazy wow
01:39:38.960
theory that may or may not be even remotely true but it's speculation and we're going to do that and
01:39:43.680
then following that we'll probably i'll do just a conclusion episode where i just bring everything
01:39:48.020
together from chapter one to chapter 22 and we'll talk through it okay perfect and speaking of the
01:39:53.900
of joel olstein um where can they find you ed yeah what the hell man that's crazy looking
01:40:00.240
basedbyreason.net um is is my main channel this is my patreon which i just launched and i'd love you
01:40:07.040
guys to be a part of it um at the um the the tier one level you get bonus content you get your q a's
01:40:13.160
answered you get um um you get everything before anyone else it's going to be on patreon for weeks
01:40:19.280
maybe even months depending on it before i release to the general public and at the blue tier you're
01:40:23.960
part of that bible study we call the jehovah story book club where we read the bible like a novel that
01:40:28.760
you've never read before we take it from the supernatural point of view we go through the
01:40:31.920
entire bible in one year and you have access to resources with summaries and videos and you know
01:40:38.740
deep dives and commentary that you have you have access to that and yeah it's it's it's been
01:40:43.880
life-changing for a lot of people folks have been asking me for it i've been doing it for about
01:40:47.280
five years now and this is the first time i've been opening it up to people outside of the private
01:40:50.760
group that i've been doing it with so i'd love for you guys to come aboard and be a part of it i i
01:40:55.200
promise you it's going to change your relationship with god i promise you that there's stuff here that
01:41:00.280
you will not hear anyplace else because i've never heard of anyplace else i'm excited man i've been
01:41:04.780
looking for a good bible study and um you know i i don't want to go and and do one with people i'm
01:41:09.620
not familiar with i'd rather hang with uh with with friends of the show so i'm looking forward to it i'm
01:41:14.160
definitely going to be there i hope a lot of the uh the people listening and watching will will join
01:41:18.660
us um yeah i'm going to be putting this on i'm going to have to put this in the description so
01:41:24.000
it's clickable because i didn't add that to this but yeah it'll be there when you guys re-watch it
01:41:28.380
on audio or whatever go there scroll down and it'll be a hyperlink you could just click it one i know you
01:41:33.540
guys are lazy just press it that's all you gotta do that's all you gotta do i hope i look forward to
01:41:38.120
to hanging out with you guys and doing a little bible study uh february 16th all right let's wrap it up
01:41:43.660
because i gotta pee so okay all right thank you again we'll see you next week don't forget to
01:41:48.200
obey submit and comply goodbye the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of
01:41:55.500
the room it is constantly telling us what to believe is real if you can persuade you that what
01:42:02.720
they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation
01:42:09.960
that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening and they have