00:08:17.780And, like, and we got to be wise as people that are studying this kind of stuff to be able to determine, like, hey, that's not, that doesn't fit right.
00:08:25.960And, like, that can be dangerous, like, perpetuating this stuff.
00:08:29.620Like, even the fittest flat earther stuff.
00:08:31.020Like, this is, like, dangerous things that are, like, discrediting what a lot of us actually are looking into.
00:08:37.840And so that's just something I would have wanted to say that I think is important.
00:08:39.980Fittest Flat Earther is what I call him.
00:08:41.480Yeah, who does he – oh, he says that your dad didn't pass away.
00:08:44.140And then he said, I'm Jeffrey Dahmer, dude.
00:08:46.040And he thinks Dahmer didn't kill anybody.1.00
00:09:20.040I think we have this tendency in the conspiracy community,
00:09:23.540like if you're a truther or whatever the idea is,
00:09:26.220whatever catchphrase you want to use where like once you start going down these holes and you
00:09:30.640realize that everything is predominantly a lie or at least the mainstream narrative is a lie0.97
00:09:34.560you do fall for a lot of shit on the way there and thank god i didn't have a platform while i0.99
00:09:38.940was falling for really stupid shit a lot of the audience knows i watched voodoo tents in africa1.00
00:09:44.180that were uh dancing on their own and i was i thought maybe maybe the tent was possessed maybe1.00
00:09:50.120there was a spirit in the tent i couldn't see the guy's feet at the bottom so what i'm saying is
00:09:54.160When you're hypercritical of what the truth is because you've been lied to, you do start to clamber onto things that are not truth, but they're like little buoys, little lifelines, and you have to kick them off.
00:10:05.040And I don't know if that's what that guy is doing.
00:10:07.180It breeds a ground for more deception.
00:10:10.280And now there's tons of people that are going in the deliverance space that are saying, I've been ritually abused and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:10:16.740What's happening is they're hearing these people's stories, and the demonic spirit is able to give them false memories.
00:10:22.460So people are getting implanted false memories, and it's spreading negativity.
00:10:26.340So what we really need to be doing is spreading unity and, like, love and peace and connection.
00:10:31.040I don't care if you guys disagree with somebody, whether their earth is flat or round or whatever you care about.
00:10:35.700Like, what you need to be doing is bringing people together in unity because it's going to be very important, especially coming up right now, guys.
00:10:43.040Y'all got about, like, three years before the United States starts seeing some, like, epic failures of things.
00:11:29.720But the whole issue is that, okay, so we disagree about that one little narrow strip of theology.
00:11:35.540And people want you to be contentious because of that, like the listenership.
00:11:38.600People really get into all that stuff.
00:11:40.960But like 95% of the stuff we agree on, that's what we spend our time.
00:11:44.720We haven't spent one moment talking about that because we believe in the critical parts of Christianity, that Jesus died for your sins.
00:11:53.680According to the scripture, he rose again on the third day, according to the scripture, you are to go out and make disciples of all men and women, of all humanity.
00:12:03.500And if we disagree on, like, the how, so what?
00:12:07.820What's most important is that we are on the same page about those sorts of things.
00:12:11.580He and I, we're going to do a show together, and we're not going to talk about what we disagree with, because I think it's important that people see us together as brothers, fellowshipping, because we need to be, like you just said, we need to be together on these sorts of things.
00:13:09.280Yeah, dude, I don't want to have to answer for that.
00:13:11.600Bro, you ain't going to be, like, what makes you think you're going to be in heaven with all these friends if you're over there spreading hate with people, bro?
00:13:18.200Those that say he loves his brother but hates, or loves God but hates his brother, the love of the Father is not in him, and he is a liar.0.83
00:13:50.220It's not this idea that you're not supposed to have these conversations.
00:13:52.860Like, having these conversations, I think, is also an act of faith.
00:13:56.440Like, if you're spending your time going through Scripture and having conversations with somebody who disagrees a little bit here and you find that fascinating and going back and forth like it's ping pong, like, that's cool.
00:14:05.200That's a lot better than spending your time doing something else.
00:14:07.520But, yeah, as far as causing division, I think that's a huge problem.
00:15:19.520And so, I think whenever it comes to, like, people that use the mainstream media's methodology for controlling, you know, it's all tied to the fear.
00:20:07.840But in the face of that, it opens up the opportunity for the true light.
00:20:11.640It's in the face of knowledge when you choose the right, when you choose the good, and you don't accept the evil.
00:20:17.640That's, you know, it's tied to what true prophecy is.
00:20:20.340Because how does a prophet predict the future biblically, right?0.74
00:20:24.240Well, according to the scriptures, if you break his commandments, if you break his Torah, you bring a curse upon yourself.0.91
00:20:29.540And a prophet of the Most High will say, all right, you as a people group are failing and sinning in these levels and these different commandments.0.87
00:20:37.400and that's going to bring a curse and in the future this curse that you're bringing upon
00:20:41.540yourself you can repent from that and you can stop but they're predicting the future because
00:20:45.800you're already filling out the equation of what brings the curse on the back end of that equation
00:20:50.420right i want to ask you guys so on the topic of um of the divisiveness that we first touched on
00:20:56.840right i wonder if that's a result of mixing things you see this burst in in christianity
00:21:02.880we've been talking about it right we talked about charlie kirk earlier and how it does seem to be
00:21:06.380that people are awakening to the spiritual reality of where we exist and then what happens is there's
00:21:14.360an injection of the political and even on my side admittedly there's an injection of the
00:21:19.160conspiratorial right so I go from conspiracy theorist to Christian and I take all of this
00:21:23.920conspiracy theory with me and I understand now that conspiracy can become a bit of an idol right
00:21:28.060and it's leaning on your own understanding and it's all about what kind of thing can you bring
00:21:31.700to the table to maybe debate about or whatever and politics is very much that way so I think
00:21:36.900that a lot of the divisiveness divisiveness that we see like let's say uh all of the orthodox
00:21:42.420debacle that's taking place on x right that comes with uh politics I think in my estimation a lot
00:21:49.460of people that are almost akin to political commentators are stepping into a spiritual arena
00:21:54.380and treating it like it's still a materialistic arena and so I guess my question is can these
00:22:00.740things be mixed can you mix conspiracy and and look at it through the biblical lens can it be
00:22:07.340part of the same pool or are they separate and can you mix politics with christianity safely is
00:22:13.300there a safe way to do it where it doesn't turn into this kind of thing divisiveness divisiveness
00:22:17.620separation um or is it totally separate the the bible is a book of conspiracy theorists right
00:22:23.860right the scriptures say that the kings of the earth conspire together to hide the truth of
00:22:28.700yah his anointed one and i think what we're seeing today is the concerted effort to create a
00:22:33.800political uh religious movement and and the political religious movement is a system of
00:22:39.140creating lukewarm believers or people to where you can be a gay boy behind the scenes in a way
00:22:46.140but you can then get up in front of everyone and say i'm a christian and i i follow the teachings
00:22:50.620of christ except the ones that i don't want to right and so i think where the divisiveness comes
00:22:54.980from with these systems is you have people that are defending their lukewarmness and you know
00:23:00.420what does the messiah say it's either be hot or cold and and so yeah so what what they're creating
00:23:06.220is literally a mimic of the system of babylon so what the system of babylon was is they they take
00:23:11.820all these uh different cultures and groups and they bring them together under one state-sponsored
00:23:16.540religion and they say i don't care what you believe as long as when the trumpet sounds you
00:23:21.000bow to the golden idol that means you're part of the club and that's the system they're trying to
00:23:25.540create is they want us all ready to bow to the golden idol when they set it up and the only way
00:23:30.600that you're going to be able to be a lukewarm christian enough to bow to the the the beast when
00:23:36.500it comes is if you kind of develop this oh i can live this lascivious life where i can just like
00:23:42.880you know serve two masters that's called duality and so duality goes like this something like it's
00:26:32.640what we all are. If you want to call us
00:26:34.620a conspiracy theorist, if you want to call us conspiracy
00:26:36.600theorists, if you want to call us truthers, we are
00:26:38.620trying to understand things. And that's
00:26:40.320As a Christian, you should be trying to understand things because, you know, the Bible is a spectacular book, but there's parts of it that still confuse me.
00:26:48.220And when you get to those points, you should go, that's weird, and really, really pray about it because that's the cool part.
00:26:55.360My old mentor, Dr. Michael Heiser, would say that the best parts of the Bible are the weird parts because I don't understand it.
00:27:01.120So that's why I think there is synergy between the conspiracy, truth, or world and the Bible because we are all trying to understand things.
00:28:04.980So I think even when we're in eternity, we're still going to be learning.
00:28:09.040I think some people believe that once we get to heaven, New Jerusalem,
00:28:11.960there's going to be some kind of download where we suddenly know everything.
00:28:14.520Well, that would suck because then we can't grow.
00:28:16.380If you can't grow, you can't have more joy.
00:28:18.120But we're supposed to continue to have joy for eternity.
00:28:20.160How can you do that if you know everything?
00:28:21.520I think we're still going to be understanding God for eternity
00:28:25.180and understanding each other for eternity.
00:28:26.380Those epiphanous moments of learning are, yeah,
00:28:29.500there's something that I don't want to lose in eternity.
00:28:32.980I was thinking about you, Jeremiah, within the context of your father, the late, great Rob Skiba, who passed.
00:28:39.200And you said something interesting on, I think it was your episode of Tinfoil Hat, where you didn't necessarily believe him when you were younger.
00:30:00.380But all kinds of other things that I've picked up that people who have come before me have laid down.
00:30:07.840You talked about Mike Heiser and we mentioned Rob Skiba.
00:30:11.240But it's like so many of these people have talked about these things and now, you know, we're up here talking about, I don't know, it's just an interesting legacy to leave behind.
00:30:18.700I mean, it's a legacy that points to Christ, which is hugely important.
00:30:21.980I mean, it's the most important thing.
00:30:24.300But, yeah, I mean, if that feeling of epiphany, like I'm sure that you had as the world started to reveal itself to you as what your father had said, if that feeling goes away, that's a little bit of a bummer.
00:30:35.480So it's reassuring to me to hear what Ed's saying, which is like eternity is still going to be growing and learning and having these experiences and developing and growing closer to the Lord.
00:36:42.540And that is where, at least even at the lowest level tier, you can access, like, the paywalled show that I do with my brother, Brad Binkley, from the Propaganda Report podcast, and also, obviously, Sam Tripoli.
00:38:57.700I mean, it's hard not to constantly be drugged back down into the depths of really just kind of like this sinister inversion of morality.
00:39:08.620That was something that you talked about that you were dealing with for a while was like the heaviness of everything that we're looking at.
00:39:13.180I mean, we've been on the stage and we've been talking about eating Charlie Kirk and did they eat JFK and all these different things.
00:39:18.040And like those are, I mean, we bring a comedic lens to them.
00:39:22.300Is that still something you're wrestling with?
00:39:24.860I mean, I feel like if you have any sort of measure of just a moral foundation that you've kind of, at the very least, you've cultivated over time, right?
00:39:34.520just due to your kind of decency the core values as well that you you set up in terms my core values
00:39:40.580are don't eat kids yeah so a lot of it flies in the face of that yeah yeah yeah it should honestly
00:39:46.740it shouldn't be that difficult for people to to imagine a world where you have this sort of
00:39:53.080aristocratic you know unaccountable sect of society that is effectively kind of ushering
00:39:58.900us through into this new age paradigm to where we will embrace even subconsciously this this
00:40:05.940inversion of morality and these these backwards principles that i think are like i've been
00:40:10.460talking about this a lot lately because i see so much of the pop culture like cultural touchstones
00:40:16.340that that we've talked about in the past on certain episodes and things where how they kind
00:40:20.560of like exploit that it's such it's like normalizing it yeah very much is because you'll
00:40:25.680see people and they very much have subconsciously embraced and internalized specifically i watched
00:40:32.120the wicker man this 1973 film right with with christopher lee you're a big movie guy well
00:40:37.460i mean i've always kind of enjoyed film right and just film analysis and stuff and like just
00:40:42.700figuring out which directors i i preferred and appreciated and things of that nature and
00:40:47.700and just like i love i think there's so many layers to the deception at play in terms of
00:40:53.720so many of these plots and the narratives that are attached to them and so i think like it's
00:40:58.940important because i think it's a reflection of how i view reality in general right like i'm
00:41:03.140constantly kind of bogged down and yeah and the the additional layers below the surface that will
00:41:07.920prove out to yeah i'm not trying to no i know what you're saying but the the point is this idea
00:41:14.640that they're like desensitizing you to it yeah that's what they're doing and so so you will
00:41:19.620inevitably embrace this inverted moral landscape in terms of the principles that will override
00:41:25.600those core values if they aren't so that's it's like they're they're working ceaselessly to
00:41:31.080desensitize you to and and wither away at your moral compass and keeping that and still exposing
00:41:37.020yourself to it is what causes sort of the anguish exactly or you can lose it and not really feel
00:41:42.640anything when they crack a baby yes and i mean at the very least you can find a way to ignore it
00:44:11.180It was just that it was more effective within their ideology to find the perfect profile of a person who was not a devout pagan, who was actually the exact opposite in terms of ideology and would be a devout Christian that was very much, like I said, rigid within this puritanical ideology in their minds, right?
00:44:31.140And so, anyway, to basically conclude this concept, it's just, you know, I apologize.
00:44:39.420But the point being is that you see where these pagan principles, and they're ancient pagan principles.
00:45:01.140And you begin to realize that, essentially, it's really what I, the reason that I even brought it up is because I'm talking about this inversion of morality.
00:45:11.520And I see how, essentially, the pagan principles themselves, within the concept of their ideology, justified human ritual sacrifice.
00:45:20.040And so, whenever, and this applies in terms of the wicker man itself became a successful pagan ritual in the eyes of the plot.
00:45:29.760So as an audience member, you're almost participating, right, in this pagan ritual.
00:45:36.860And beyond that, it developed a cult following after the film and everything.
00:45:42.740And Christopher Lee, I believe, was heavily involved in terms of he has an occult lineage that's worthwhile in identifying and acknowledging.
00:45:50.840Well, hold on. Let's put a pin in that for a second.
00:46:43.240Because I'm like, I'm just going to spend my time in the word of God.0.99
00:46:45.540And then if the homie Jeremiah Skiba tells me that Helen Keller,0.97
00:46:48.940that whole thing's fake, I'm like, bro, I want to hear more about that.0.97
00:46:51.440But, like, I'm just not really, like, doing the deep dive.
00:46:54.360Like, JT was telling me a ton of stuff.
00:46:55.180a video of somebody getting hit by a car you got deeply upset yeah like i don't want to watch that
00:46:59.100i don't want to fill my spirit with that stuff yeah like a guy just dying in broad daylight like
00:47:03.220that's not my thing yeah yeah but all that dark stuff you can't go down this path to like find
00:47:08.120truth in a certain sense but it's it's always telling the same story bro like like what you're
00:47:12.060saying i'm like that's just a snapshot of like america today dude right that was honestly the
00:47:17.120point i was trying to get to and i promise you i won't go along no i knew you were bro i just
00:47:21.040Legitimately, I believe that once you realize in terms of this inverted moral landscape that we reside in at this point, you see how not only the pop culture cultural touchstones, as I mentioned before, these pop culture reference points that we can point to, it's more than that.
00:47:43.580You can just look at so many different examples of how they are rendering us at a subconscious level almost kind of, not only are they disrupting our core values.
00:48:03.360But it's also, like, available to the masses today.
00:48:05.960Like, pornography, if you will, was available to King David because he was king, right?
00:48:09.280So he's seen a chick out on the balcony, she's getting dressed, he's seeing her, and he's saying, bring me that chick, and I'm going to do whatever I want.
00:48:16.700But it was only accessible to kings, if you will, or maybe a certain type of person.
00:48:22.380But now, all of the lust and all of the madness of humanity, everybody has it at their fingertips now.
00:59:07.600I'll be honest, I had, like, you know, I won't say too much, but, like, privately, when we did the show this last time, like, yeah, I was in a weird place.
00:59:18.980I felt a little depressed, I'll be honest.
00:59:20.920And, like, honest, if I'm being, you know, I think it's important to be always authentic and to tell people exactly what you're going through.0.99