00:05:28.880And when we're in that place where we have that security, knowing that he loves us, we we really should not be worried about the things that the world is telling us is going on.
00:09:29.940And that is next week, and that is the first time they are actually literally putting together international judges for an international system.
00:09:40.920And they're bringing councilmen, they're establishing council members for six continents.
00:09:46.620And a region near you will have Noahides.
00:09:49.180And they're eventually going to enforce this.
00:09:51.820But in the U.N. documents, it talks about this being a post-2030 agenda.
00:09:58.240So if that's if that's when they're going and and here's the problem, because most people would just go, well, so what?
00:10:04.700I'll just say, you know, well, whatever, whatever they want me to say, and I'll just keep on living my life.
00:10:08.620But Jesus said, if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my father.
00:10:13.980Yeah. So it's not an option for Christians, you know.0.91
00:10:16.880So that's that's big. That's more scary than a popis.0.97
00:10:19.360and you know that the the um whatever the food and you know the food crisis and the economy
00:10:25.860crashing and like just like you said david all these things that are coming i think you just
00:10:31.100want to antarctica because that i think that continent is not right no that's where the
00:10:35.580lizard people are that's actually what i was gonna say can't go there perfect dude that's right so um0.96
00:10:42.740you know for a long time i spent uh many years in in fear right because if you're just in
00:10:48.620conspiracy and you're not on a foundation that is jesus christ it just looks like the walls are
00:10:53.920closing in around you in any day now like you said they're gonna come and drag you out of your house
00:10:56.980i remember mtv ran these crazy ass uh ads at one point early 2000s anybody who's listening can look
00:11:04.360these up and it was like uh people sitting in their living rooms and all of a sudden somebody
00:11:09.500starts banging on the door they open the door and militarized police bust in and drag a whole
00:11:14.420family out and load them onto you know trains and buses or whatever and then it says the holocaust0.52
00:11:19.900happened to people just like us think and what they did was they they they um froze it as they're
00:11:26.480getting onto the the the trucks and then it faded to a black and white image of the exact same
00:11:33.020people in the exact same you know sort of uh uh articulative manners getting on the trucks
00:11:38.920and it was you know a picture from the holocaust so it's like when i saw that i was i was like0.81
00:11:44.080FEMA camps, they're going to do all the things to us. They're going to transform, you know,0.59
00:11:47.920your Walmart into this and that. Once you realize that Jesus Christ is the truth, what ends up
00:11:55.220happening is, is this like a couple of layers of it, right? Like if God is with me, then who could
00:11:59.140be against me? So you're, you're emboldened by this idea of like, yeah, it doesn't matter. Like
00:12:03.400I'm going to die anyway. Right. Right. But you're going to lose. You're going to lose because God
00:12:08.360has already won. And this whole thing is just playing out now. And no matter what happens,
00:12:12.940I'm going to die, but you're going to lose.
00:12:15.720And, you know, we've talked about it on the show before where I think it actually probably
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00:29:54.020actively resisting uh god yeah and uh god but he but he always he brought you back and and he
00:30:04.960brought you through truth um because like when dave started when dave started following the
00:30:12.800ways of god at an older age he kind of did is that what kind of pulled you back into it top
00:30:19.220no no i don't think so i think uh oh i thought oh okay our paths were i never i never try to like
00:30:27.040evangelize them but we're on this same path together we're doing the same thing
00:30:31.080but like my my influences come from uh for other reasons i guess and dave's influences i think come
00:30:38.040from other reasons although we're both in this show and we're both doing the same thing i don't
00:30:42.500i don't know does that make sense no he he never as somebody who grew up in the church like it was
00:30:47.680never really we we went to the church together for the first time to consult with a your pastor
00:30:53.180who like was a really solid dude and we were looking for advice on a matter um and so that
00:31:00.980was pretty much it though previous to that there was never any like oh you you got to go to church
00:31:06.080or anything like that like that never really happened um i wasn't even going to that church
00:31:10.380before then that's right yeah that's right i forgot about that but uh what exactly happened
00:31:14.740here um i was oh yeah i was kicked out of that church before i got kicked out there was a lady
00:31:20.520that uh like she was praying over me and she spoke a word of prophecy that i would talk to millions
00:31:25.320of people and blah blah i told you the story laura and i was like yeah no absolutely not she had no
00:31:30.800idea that at that point i had already been sort of soft kicked out of the church and i was just
00:31:34.680fulfilling my duties for the you know like making sure everything can float until i just never go
00:31:40.100back there and i was like yeah yeah sure you know and then over the 10 years that's a funny guy
00:31:47.840yeah yeah exactly right she had it right she did but along the way for a long time there were
00:31:55.660points of like hey come you know come back and i was just like no there's absolutely no way there's
00:32:00.800no i'm going in the opposite direction we're doing you know not like to a crazy level i always
00:32:06.180was grounded in god but i was like i don't i'm not i want nothing to do with the things of god
00:32:11.420if that makes any sense yeah so you don't want to do the churchianity theater of of what people
00:32:18.920are putting up stage yeah for god in in a way you know big stuff go ahead top what were you
00:32:25.740gonna say yeah i guess it was more than that too though there was like there were some points where
00:32:30.240it's like you get into outright rebellion as well not just like uh oh the church and all that but
00:32:36.860because you start to question like at at that age it's and and if nobody tells you you quite you
00:32:42.140question the differentiation between church and god because it seems like the same thing and to
00:32:46.560this day you know my dad will still confuse these things and you know it's like whatever that's his
00:32:52.660walk he has a he has a good walk with god and that works for him but for me there was a contradiction
00:32:58.340so if you don't see that and aren't able to separate that yeah matter of fact um remember
00:33:04.660like a a family member that was like that said a couple things we invited him on the show yes yes
00:33:10.040same idea yeah invited this guy on the on matt's show and and he was like oh well you guys have
00:33:15.540you guys have said things about the church and i was like were they accurate and you can't argue
00:33:21.520it and i said okay they were accurate yeah and it wasn't uh it i mean it's a it's not a condemnation
00:33:29.380but it's a room here here's some place that you guys need to improve you know and and same thing
00:33:34.760goes for the church that i still go to the one that david left i was like yeah there's things
00:33:37.900that you guys need to improve how you dealt with david that was horrible but i'm at the point in
00:33:44.800my life now okay yeah i mean it wasn't like the way you framed it seems like they they have
00:33:51.960what you're familiar with in like a any kind of a church setting where there is like a show and
00:33:57.780there's music and sometimes a pastor might put on a voice or there's a speaking voice there's a lot
00:34:02.320of like theatrics um and they tried to offer me a position engaging with those theatrics but
00:34:09.340what i do on my show which is constantly you know orienting or reorienting towards god if we drift
00:34:18.040off a little bit it's always like i don't plan anything i don't script anything there's no
00:34:21.760theatrics i'm very genuine because i don't the filter from my mind to my mouth is almost
00:34:27.780non-existent so i don't have the ability to kind of like fake the funk um and you're telling me
00:34:32.220that we're gonna go do something for god in the church and you and they kind of offered me a fake
00:34:37.660the funk position like you could do the voice that's the expression that they use and i said
00:34:41.980like the voice what's they had already realized that david's david was leaving for uh reasons
00:34:47.480because like you know like the style of the pastor and i was like i like to turn to you're like uh0.90
00:34:53.000church turn to your neighbor and say some shit to him and i'm like i don't want to say some or0.83
00:34:57.480they go we're gonna put 60 seconds on the clock and you're gonna go and uh social and hug and i0.99
00:35:03.260go and i go i gotta go to the bathroom and i'd get up and i'd go to the bathroom like i can't
00:35:07.780that is not how i'm built and also it's weird it doesn't feel like what i do on the show like
00:35:13.860when i'm having conversations with with top or i'm having conversations with people like you laura
00:35:17.660like all of that is is gone and it's just about a relationship with god and understanding god and
00:35:24.700and and the truth right and so why now when i go to a place that's dedicated to the lord
00:35:29.820is there this additional layer of stuff that i've never been able to adhere to i i can't do that so
00:35:36.140i i was i had a foot out the door because i just go i can't do if you're gonna make me hug somebody
00:35:41.840every time i come to this place like i like to go to the back and then they go hey david you
00:35:47.140want to be in the play maybe that'll make it and it's like we have a microphone you're talking to
00:35:50.460you like microphones talking into the microphone and he's like i'm out faster now but it's like
00:35:56.940That's the thing, like, so my background of being out of the church for that many years because of, like, the differentiation between God and church, I'm able to sit in the church now and really understand that and go, okay, okay, okay, turn to your neighbor.
00:36:12.200You know, but there's still, like, moments of brilliance when I'm there that I go, uh-huh, I still understand the use case of this place.
00:36:22.360It can be better, but I still appreciate it, especially for what it does for my kids.
00:36:26.660So that's that's sort of my whole life.
00:36:31.320I agree. I agree. You know, because like right now, you know what I'm seeing with all this Noahide law stuff, there are massive amount of Christian pastors that are signing up to become Noahides.
00:36:46.920Noahides are the ones that are going to enforce the killing of the Christians.0.85
00:36:51.020that's funny so hello so that it's literally so so i want to tell people to do not associate god0.66
00:36:59.220with all the messed up people in the church because i tell people all the time if you want
00:37:04.300to get hurt go to a church because it's definitely going to happen because everybody there is wounded
00:37:09.280and they operate out of their wounds and they do a lot of wrong things they say a lot of wrong
00:37:14.340things and just like you top my son said i'm not going anymore mom i'm sick of it and he grew
00:37:20.960up in church too i would always take him and he said i have been treated worse by the people
00:37:26.400in the churches than i have by just secular people in the world yeah and i said yeah but
00:37:32.000everybody in the world is is like getting stoned and you know doing all these bad things i mean
00:37:38.420that's where i i was like that you know that church mom and he goes mom he goes mom no he said
00:37:44.140every one of the youth kids all of them get stoned every single one and i go you mean like
00:37:51.460like john and he goes oh yeah totally like all the time abby and he's like oh she's the biggest
00:37:57.380pot oh that's so funny we go down the list we go down the list and like every one of them are just
00:38:02.500doing the things of the world and i was like well okay so what's even the point of me taking my kid
00:38:07.780to church if he's not learning to separate himself from the world because they're all worldly
00:38:13.880And then when you get into, just like you were saying, Top, yeah, we're all sinners, but this is leadership that is doing these things like embezzling, adultery, greed, all kinds of things that are way off charts.
00:38:30.820And then I was even over, I was helping out with like the little girls industry, the little girls ministry.
00:38:39.760And all they would do is give them a sheet of paper and a little scripture to memorize.
00:45:16.000and my aunt is full-blown schizophrenic um you know multiple personalities uh and i always thought
00:45:25.300it felt spiritual and dark but it was diagnosed in a materialistic way as whatever chemical
00:45:32.900imbalance in the brain or she had pills sometimes she was okay most of the time she wasn't to this
00:45:37.620day she's not okay she's you know in the street somewhere of new york city homeless um and
00:45:44.360And her kids had, you know, one of them had schizophrenia, they had a woman in their head telling them to run away. And the other one is now fully new age, pentagram tattoos and everything. And I've seen things, you know, in the house that I grew up in, I've seen things I've had experiences.
00:46:06.100and they were so profound that as I got older and people would say, you know, those are just
00:46:14.520dreams or they're nightmares or whatever, those aren't real. Or they would try to explain it away
00:46:19.340in a psychological way. Like, you know, people will say sleep paralysis, for example, is like
00:46:22.740strictly a biological function. Your body's going into a state of paralysis so you don't act out
00:46:26.780your dreams. I could never let go of the idea that there was more to it. So, you know, my
00:46:36.080grandmother died i ended up moving in with a another woman who wasn't my grandmother but she
00:46:40.680did raise me her name was barbara and she was fantastic but that lady would tell me stories
00:46:45.240about like the hat man and sleep paralysis and the hat man and i was like seven years old eight
00:46:50.500years old like i have a i have a son now she was i mean the best i'm so grateful god put her in my
00:46:55.580life um hugely meaningful man is that like a shadow like it's like a shadow person but he's
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00:50:01.020So these stories, they stuck with me for so long.
00:50:03.920And I guess eventually what ends up happening is I find out that my grandmother who passed away,
00:50:12.240my biological grandmother who thought she was abducted,
00:50:14.320there was a book that she read that she – it was so harrowing to her.
00:50:18.180She didn't want my mother to read it, her daughter.
00:50:21.940And apparently it had a lot to do with whatever her experiences were.
00:50:25.860I went to my mom after I had heard about it.
00:50:28.240And I said, is this true? Did grandma say there was a book that you weren't supposed to read?
00:50:31.620And she goes, oh, yeah. I go, do you remember what it was called?
00:50:33.620And she just gives it up like nothing. You know, she didn't put a lot of weight into it.
00:50:37.300And it was Communion by Whitley Stryber. If anybody's familiar with it, it is a guy who effectively has collected a lot of abductee testimony, alien abductee testimony.
00:50:50.480They made a weird movie with Christopher Walken out of it where he's like dancing with them on the – it's a strange movie.
00:50:58.040Oh, man, that guy's weird. Yeah. Yeah. But the reason that she was so afraid of it is because
00:51:03.760it took what she thought was like a spooky, demonic experience. And it said, no, you're
00:51:08.880being taken. All of her stories matched up with these people's stories. And it was a lot of
00:51:16.440pattern overlap to the extent that she believed this is what was happening to her. So I went,
00:51:21.200I was just a kid. I went to Barnes and Nobles. I stole it. I shoplifted it. They had it on the
00:51:25.340shelf, uh, Whitley Stryver, um, communion was there and not a big reader to this day, not a
00:51:30.900big reader. Um, but I plowed through that book. And what I noticed was the stories were just like
00:51:37.700Barbara's hat man stories, right? So my biological grandmother now has some weird overlap with the
00:51:43.240woman who raised me from six to 14 years old. And, you know, to me, it was like this great,
00:51:50.120like mystery of my life i i had experiences i'm seeing some of the elements in this thing
00:51:56.500my grandmother had these experiences barbara had these experiences somehow they're all connected
00:52:01.160it was it really like even talking about it now it gives me chills like it was like
00:52:04.840i had in my life at what would have been i would have been like 15 16 years old some
00:52:10.760some saga some some mystery that like only presents itself to people in movies you know
00:52:19.120but like I've got this thing in front of me and I became tenacious and obsessed and I had always
00:52:23.840been bent that way towards the spiritual and um but now it was like you know my my foot was on
00:52:31.440the gas pedal and it was like all I was doing and I was researching night and day and and it led
00:52:35.840into well these things are demonic and you know what else is demonic look at this symbolism
00:52:41.780in the music videos look at the symbolism in the uh Hollywood films and and and then it was just
00:52:49.100just pulling on threads and going down rabbit holes. I was obsessed. I mean, I ended up being
00:52:54.440homeless only a couple of years after that. And even in my homelessness, I would say in my
00:52:59.280homelessness was the most tenacious time where I wasn't fixing anything that was going on in my
00:53:05.000life. I was just desperately trying to gain access to any cell phone or computer I could
00:53:10.500so that I could spend hours just, you know, taking in information, taking in information.0.99
00:53:15.860And I wasn't Christian. I believed in God. I was agnostic. I said, I believe there's a God because I had always felt that presence and I always felt like someone was had a plan for me and that there was something going on.
00:53:29.900I couldn't understand it. But I couldn't say, like, who is God? Like, who's right? Who's correct?
00:53:36.040all these religions out there who's correct and so um this this like takes my life over from1.00
00:53:43.04015 16 all the way to like 21 and it takes a long time for me to get my life on track0.62
00:53:50.380it's not until i meet my my current wife um not that i had a previous wife but look my wife now
00:53:56.220uh and i realized how i said that i was like that sounds weird uh it wasn't until i met the woman
00:54:02.480who would become my wife um it wasn't until you know i had my son that i was like all of this
00:54:08.240needs to go away and i need to provide and i have to figure this out so um years later after my son
00:54:17.520was you know he would have been five by this time and i had been happily married for some time
00:54:22.920i had this was she christian no she's actually jehovah's witness uh and she was coming out of
00:54:29.220it. She had come out of it. She was like one foot out when I met her. And then I was just asking
00:54:33.860questions. And I was so delicate with her. I didn't want to be the person that drove a wedge
00:54:40.040because, you know, they disassociate their their families will stop talking to them.
00:54:45.040They shunned them. Yeah. So it was very, very difficult. And I didn't want that to happen to
00:54:50.400her. And I wasn't a believer in any real sense, you know, and more still kind of asking that
00:54:57.360question, how could you, which in some ways is interesting because we end up going to
00:55:02.680Christianity, which, you know, Jehovah's Witnesses think that they're Christian.
00:55:07.620But I think I was still asking the right question because it wasn't like my wife had a0.92
00:55:12.660relationship with God. That wasn't what I was driving a wedge between. It was more of an
00:55:19.320institution that was obviously corrupt. And I took my research that I had applied to conspiracy
00:55:26.560and started applying it to Jehovah's Witnesses
00:56:50.980But so we eventually have all all three of us, myself, my wife and my son have an experience, a run in with something that is this is non non human is I could only call it a demon.
00:57:40.340It was like all of our timelines, our plans, we're going to get here, we're going to get an apartment, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
00:58:28.640And instead of being, like, grateful that these people have given me a place to land, I'm, like, resentful because I'm dealing with embarrassment and feelings of failure.
00:58:36.640And so I actually become a really terrible version of myself.
01:02:51.220I had looked up the previous night and it was like there's something there's something called exploding head syndrome and it's where if you're drifting off into sleep sometimes you're woken up by a loud bang or someone calling your name I'm like that's all it is exploding is the stupidest name I've ever heard sometimes the industry syndrome demon face syndrome right sometimes the industry coins a term yeah it makes you feel like they understand it they don't understand it they just go like oh yeah we've got a name for that we've got a category so I'm thinking I'm spasming you know sometimes you twitch a little bit before you go
01:03:21.200to sleep. So I put my arms under the blanket. Cause I'm like, at least the weight of the blanket
01:03:25.400will keep me from spasming enough to wake me up. I just want to go to sleep, dude. I just,
01:03:30.400I got work in the morning, like, and I fall asleep and something feels like it grabs my
01:03:36.340ankle and pulls my leg off the bed. And so now again, I'm just up, you know, scrolling my phone
01:03:44.320until the sun comes up. The next day it comes around. I don't say anything. I don't want my
01:03:49.500wife to know I don't want my son to overhear I don't know what's happening I want it to stop I
01:03:53.540just want to get a good night's sleep I haven't slept barely in 48 hours so that next night rolls
01:04:00.380around and I fall asleep I have this nightmare and in the nightmare I can see I just it's like
01:04:08.720I'm not aware of my body but I can see um in the middle of this void this thing standing there and
01:04:15.260it's it's like shaped like a man but its skin is black and gray like um like you know like a cheetah
01:04:22.500like a leopard uh but like not furry it's just skin and it's all black and gray and um it's
01:04:29.500pretty muscular and its fists are like balled up and it's breathing real heavy like it's full of
01:04:37.380rage and its teeth are it's got like lower canid teeth they're so big they're overlapping its upper
01:04:43.920lip and its eyes were like bright red, like lights. They look like lights. They were so
01:04:49.780bright red. And, um, and this thing's looking at me and I'm looking at it and it feels like
01:04:54.540I'm looking at it forever and it's just breathing. Like it looked like, you know, rage if, if
01:05:00.200it was embodied. And, um, I don't know how long, who knows how long the dream was. Dreams
01:05:05.040are weird. And I wake up in the morning and, uh, my wife, and I haven't told her anything.
01:05:11.040my wife goes I had a nightmare last night and I like as somebody who just had a nightmare I'm like
01:05:16.560oh yeah okay and she's like yeah um I woke up and I was in the room like it was the room that
01:05:25.040we're in right now but I couldn't move and I'm I know because I spent years studying sleep paralysis0.95
01:05:29.420and shit I'm like I don't say anything though I just go oh shit and she goes uh yeah and at some0.95
01:05:36.320point i feel like something's wrong with you and i go okay and she goes yeah so i i look with my0.99
01:05:41.560eyes only and i see on top of you there is this thing on you choking you into the bed and it has
01:05:50.860giant teeth like fangs and bright red eyes and i got like getting chills right now i go
01:05:58.480oh that's crazy man like i don't even know what to say i'm i'm still not telling her
01:06:06.560because i just like dude for the love of god i just want this to stop i just want this to stop
01:06:12.120like this is so not okay i can't even measure like how this is you know messing with my sleep
01:06:20.960and now it's messing with my wife and also it's really really really scary like scary in a way
01:06:26.360that i don't know yeah like i had had experiences but those experiences were one off i had never
01:06:32.760been trapped in a thing where it felt like every night something was going to happen like every
01:06:38.580night something's going to happen when is this going to stop and it's ramping up you know so
01:06:42.700i don't tell her i don't tell her again i just go like that's crazy gotta go to work time to get0.96
01:06:48.600ready for work you know so i go to work and i work with these black dudes uh we're like power washing0.99
01:06:54.160at the time and I'm telling them like what's going on and they're like she sounds like you got demons1.00
01:06:58.380dog and I'm like demons like what are you talking about demons like I don't even know how to place
01:07:04.340that or what that even means but they seem pretty confident it was demons so um I end up coming home
01:07:14.000going to sleep you know the days on repeat I wake up to my wife she's she's showing me she's like
01:07:19.800hey babe wake up wake up it's in morning now and she's showing me a video on her phone i still
01:07:25.180have it i think i might have posted it like somewhere maybe i'll put it on patreon or
01:07:28.860something if i can find it again but she's taking a video of where you would put your fingers to
01:07:33.420check your jugular like check your pulse and um i'm sleeping but it's throbbing like i'm like
01:07:40.300super stressed out what's really funny about the video is if i'm not mistaken it's like a minute
01:07:43.600long so she recorded me for a full minute and i'm like it's clearly in distress like this thing is
01:07:48.400just boom boom boom boom boom it's a little bit of a long time yeah it's a little bit of a long
01:07:51.880time so she she uh we're watching the video and i go that's crazy and then my son who's at the foot
01:07:59.180of the bed on a twin size air mattress starts screaming and he's still asleep and anybody with
01:08:05.540kids knows there's like a thing where they're screaming and you go what's wrong and there's a
01:08:09.200thing where you're screaming where you're like uh-oh and then there's another one where it's like
01:08:13.000all hands on deck so he's screaming in such a way that like we're where the phone gets knocked
01:08:20.140to the side like we're scrambling to get to the foot of the bed to get to him and as we're doing
01:08:25.840that he sits up like he sits up and he's still asleep and he's still screaming so we grab him
01:08:34.240and we're you know holding him and and petting him and consoling him and telling him it's gonna
01:08:38.760be okay everything's okay it's all right don't worry no way you know and it takes so long for
01:08:43.840him to snap out of it when he finally wakes up and he still cries for a while but when he finally
01:08:48.380gets his wits about him so he could speak because you know they hyperventilate and his he just gets
01:08:53.660out monster red eyes and like everything is so wrong at this point like i don't know what to do
01:09:06.320i think i may have told my wife that day like something's going on but i can't even really
01:09:14.400tell you like what we talked about your in-laws house yeah yeah and what's interesting is the
01:09:20.920room that we were in was her brother's childhood bedroom and her brother is a guy who like
01:09:26.720struggled with bipolar manic depressive this and that and would say would say he told my wife
01:09:34.760recently when they were children he woke up in the middle of the night to an alien gray
01:09:40.560carrying my wife as a toddler out of the room and he got up and shoved it that's what he said
01:09:47.460and this is only like a couple of weeks ago that we learned it's maybe like a month ago
01:09:50.920and everything made such a noise the screaming of the kids and the screaming of my wife when she
01:09:57.280woke up uh that the mom came running into the room my mother-in-law and she turns to her mom
01:18:51.480I think it's more like saved. I think that's what he's asking. That's because baptism people, some people just don't get baptized. I don't know.
01:18:57.880Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's even, but I just at that point had understood the implications of declaring a thing in the word, in person, like the spiritual implications of doing those sorts of things.
01:19:10.300And so baptism makes sense through that context for me.
01:19:14.020But I had been publicly proclaiming it, which was would have been more difficult had I not picked my life up and moved away from New Jersey during COVID or after COVID and come to Florida.
01:19:26.080Because what I find is like there are all these people that are attached to your life that will look at you weird.
01:19:32.120they think they know you because we did drugs together when i was a kid and and i used to
01:19:38.700be the homeless guy who slept on your couch and like and you know there's there is some like
01:19:43.580baggage with those kinds of characters where like i i'm glad i didn't know i needed to but i'm glad
01:19:48.680that i freed myself up from everybody to go and do this thing without any attachments to anybody
01:19:54.260who would judge me for it and if they did they were judging me they still are but i don't really0.75
01:19:58.860give a shit anymore um so yeah i was making outward declarations on my show uh but not not0.72
01:20:04.660to the extent of like this definitive uh you know baptized in the name of the father and son and the0.98
01:20:11.220holy spirit which was i think i just passed the year anniversary of that facebook reminded me
01:20:15.180gotcha man i didn't know that i thought when i came because i came on y'all show probably two
01:20:21.000years ago the first time yeah and and you were telling you did mention all of this stuff with
01:20:27.280a demon and i thought you were already a christian then but but like you're saying you were already
01:20:32.820publicly speaking that way yes yeah but you did you had not actually um actually done the well
01:20:41.120and like i tell people you're not a christian just because you think you're one you have to confess
01:20:45.060it with your mouth yeah and believe it in your heart yeah romans 10 so so you did that official
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01:22:26.820I was just going to say that a lot of the show, I think the reason it resonates with people
01:22:32.920is not only because we're very honest and there's no gimmicks or anything,
01:22:37.180But it's part of it is because you're watching me top gets mad at like a different crowd and I get mad at a separate crowd from top.0.90
01:22:49.160So top will get mad at people who are claiming to be Christian, but are doing dumb bullshit and they're deceiving people and they're they have an ulterior motive or an agenda top zeros in on that.0.96
01:23:02.620And that is really what, you know, gets him going.0.98
01:23:05.740For me, it is occultists and witches and New Agers and Gnostics because I was in that space and I see what is the folly of the wisdom of men, right?0.99
01:23:19.300The folly of the intellect of men where they look at the wisdom of God and they think that it's foolishness.0.99
01:23:24.660And they're so puffed up in their own arrogance and they're missing like really obvious shit.0.99
01:23:30.140obvious shit that i was missing too you know what i mean like that's probably why i i get so0.99
01:23:34.620combative with those people is because i see a lot of myself in them um but it's like having a0.90
01:23:40.820puzzle and missing a couple of pieces and those pieces change the nature of the entire image and
01:23:46.040if you plug them in it goes look dummy you actually thought it was the opposite when in reality it's
01:23:53.460this thing and so i get really wrapped up in fighting with with those people um it happens
01:23:59.860quite a bit i also think it's probably like i explained my background and you know my grandmother
01:24:03.960and and what my family's been through and everything uh people are just so like i said
01:24:09.340puffed up in their own arrogance and their own wisdom and intellect and um you see that a lot
01:24:14.540yes i see that a lot where people you know always want to be right because they're they're they're
01:24:20.300the ones that have all the truth yeah yeah and you gotta sit there you know kind of slapping
01:24:24.600behind the head and say you don't you don't have all the truth i'm sorry man you know it's it's
01:24:29.080something that plays the conspiracy yeah i'm like top i mean definitely if somebody is doing
01:24:34.240something that is uh kind of out there and they're proclaiming that they are you know christians and
01:24:39.920kind of thing like that i i call them out because that that that's who i am i'm very direct uh
01:24:45.640Laura knows this and, and, and Laura and I, we, when we talk,
01:24:49.520we're always talking about spiritual things and it's all, you know,
01:24:53.460we're directing with one another as well. So we're direct with people.
01:24:57.480We tell them they did straight, straight up. This is how it is.
01:25:00.500And the word says it prove me wrong through the word. Yeah. Right.
01:25:05.520Yeah. It's a waste of time to beat around the bush. To me,
01:25:07.920it's like you say what you mean, mean what you say, get it out, you know,
01:42:54.420And so there is a lot of like the plans that you think that you have are actually trash and that God's plan for you is greater than anything that you could put on your own life.
01:43:04.820And, you know, there is this theme of the things that my family thought were the right way to go about fixing the iniquity or fixing any of the problems that they're not.
01:43:14.800Jesus Christ is what fixes the problems.
01:43:17.520But something that popped into my head, and it might not even be an original thought,
01:43:22.320maybe there's somewhere else where this exists, but is that this expression that it is the
01:44:03.420And it was like I always felt like I was supposed to do something else.
01:44:05.700But for the first time in my life, I was just asking for it to be okay, which was a departure from what I had always felt since I was a kid.
01:44:13.740I've told you there's like this great mystery of my life that I'm discovering it's got something
01:44:18.160to do with my grandmother I was almost like burdened with what I felt was purpose but it
01:44:23.160didn't make any sense just looking at my life around me so I got to this point where I was like
01:44:26.480for the sake of my my wife and my son can can I just can have can it just be okay and like God
01:44:32.220was giving me that like okay cool I mean I worked really hard and I got a good position and I honed
01:44:38.020a skill that made me money I was a good welder right and I was looking at all these things like
01:44:42.800the housing market in New Jersey. And I'm looking at my good job and I'm going, yeah, I could do it.
01:44:48.080I could do it now. Like this is better than I ever was going to do. And instead, I had this
01:44:52.180unction to just like uproot and leave New Jersey and go to Florida and go on this once again,
01:44:56.940just insane chaos and all this stuff that, you know, throwing my life and my family back into
01:45:02.140some form of chaos. Right. To leave this state and go to this one and take this chance. And,
01:45:06.160And, you know, but what I learned was like, even though I got to that place and I could have left and I could have gotten a house in New Jersey and I could have just been a welder for the rest of my life and had like a pretty good job and did the thing.
01:45:18.540And it's not like, you know, it's not this adventure that I felt like I was being called to, but it is good.
01:45:28.760What ends up happening is I skirt that and then I go and this is where we are now.
01:45:35.280And it takes a lot of chances. It takes a lot of leaps of faith. It takes a lot of not playing it safe. And when I say it is the glory of God to redeem you, I could never have put myself here.
01:45:49.400I was a homeless high school dropout eating shit from a dumpster and the the the meaning I specifically want to impart on people with that phrase is when God plucks you out and puts you on a mountain that you could not have put yourself on.
01:46:11.880i guess you do have a choice but if you have any intelligence at all you don't have any other0.80
01:46:18.640choice but to glorify god it is the glory of god to have redeemed me because i can't do this so to
01:46:27.860sit anywhere in any public eye and say it was ever myself or anything like that would be a lie
01:46:34.620would be a lie so in that way in the strictest sense it is literally the glory of god to have
01:46:39.200redeemed me amen man that was beautifully stated you know what it made me think of if you ever read
01:46:46.900the prodigal son where he goes out you said i'm eating out of a dumpster and the guy is literally
01:46:52.180you know with the pigs and he comes back to his father and he says i'll just be a servant like0.59
01:46:58.840the servants here with you have it better than where i was i'll be like you said even just
01:47:05.260regular you just wanted to be normal that was a regular guy with a regular job yeah but look at
01:47:10.320what he did he said he said get the fatty calf ready go get the robe get my signet ring and he
01:47:16.720like put him on that mountain i mean it's literally that same story what you just told is just
01:47:22.240beautiful you're right it is to his glory you know what's funny is that you said that um
01:47:27.440it takes some intelligence right to kind of like put this together to actually a lot of people0.97
01:47:34.180think that christians are stupid right but in order to sit there and believe who he is0.99
01:47:38.920you have to have some sort of intelligence to understand who he is and if you don't got that1.00
01:47:44.520man forget it you're never going to see it and i mean look at the pharisees that happened when
01:47:49.260they crucified jesus they they they saw it but they didn't see it yeah because they couldn't put
01:47:54.220it together yeah right so okay top your turn man tell us uh your your story at the end here and uh
01:48:06.800It's a strange journey of doing what I did before and then doing what I'm doing now and finding the balance of, like you're saying, like when you're relying on intellect, kind of like the Pharisee versus relying on, for lack of better words, intuition when you're just letting God lead.
01:48:25.360And it's this, I don't know, Matt would say like a co-labor with God, because he's asking you to do those things.
01:48:32.600He's asking you to still meet him and put your efforts forward and put your talents forward.
01:48:37.100But then there are times where he's like, okay, now you sit back and now you listen and you watch.
01:48:44.240And as I get older, I think I've been getting better at that, but still not perfect.
01:48:53.040Every day is like you wake up and it's like, okay, I'm going to work as hard as I can at the thing that you've, you've given me this thing now.
01:49:15.620Keep moving it, stretching out, do what you got to do with it.0.97
01:49:18.380But then there are seasons when he's going to go, now sit down and shut up.
01:49:24.240And I think the Leesburg season last year, we had that season to sit down and shut up and I didn't do that.
01:49:33.000And it was like we heard the call of what we were supposed to do, but we were off because we weren't listening correctly or we weren't listening intently.
01:49:42.340We're still doing whatever we wanted to do, dancing around.
01:49:46.600and uh it's like like you said laura a coffee shop but not that one yeah a white guy but not
01:49:53.560this one not not one that's bald not the bald one that looks like anton levey a different one
01:49:58.160and now this time it's like uh it's a season of work which is exciting there's new things
01:50:12.420but uh always listening for when we're supposed to when we're supposed to move and when we're
01:50:19.080not supposed to hopefully we're getting better at that i don't even know if this is a good
01:50:22.060this is a good uh explanation of what but this is just what i think about all the time it's like i
01:50:27.820know like when we came into the shop i came into the shop and i met matt and i was like oh something
01:50:32.620like a very disorienting but i called david and i was like there's something to do here the same
01:50:37.200way you said about when you met me yeah something to do and david said shut up i wasn't listening
02:01:28.440Like now it's your we've as you move along.
02:01:32.020I think God lets you or maybe it's just your proximity to the thing where you start to go like, oh, I could see where before I couldn't see.
02:01:40.140Now I can see how that could work, how this wire that I've been holding on to.
02:01:44.220Yeah, I bought like this connector that we couldn't find.
02:02:22.680so that i know that i can't do it exactly exactly and then once it started happening i'm like
02:02:27.960i certainly can't pretend that this was me right right and if you do then you'll end up like
02:02:34.940nebuchadnezzar eating grass yeah yeah yeah exactly well top and david it was it was a pleasure having
02:02:42.000you guys on here and um i'm so grateful you guys took time to come in on my show and be part of it
02:02:50.260and it's, it's a wonderful thing. Uh, I'm happy to hear the things that you guys are dealing with
02:02:55.300and going through and, and, uh, your testimony was wonderful. I, I really, I mean, I had tears.
02:03:00.860I don't know if you guys couldn't see it, but I had tears in my eyes because I was so joyful.
02:03:06.560That's what you guys were saying. I felt, you know, resonated in my spirit and, and God was
02:03:11.720just, you know, tugging at me and saying, Hey man, these are my boys. So. Well, thank you.
02:03:17.800thank you for thank you for having a great conversation i'd love to come back sometime
02:03:21.520this is yeah it was fun oh but can i can i also say uh definitely my my other project that i work
02:03:26.960on besides nephilim death squad and my top lobster website with the t-shirts is uh straight bible do
02:03:31.860you have that sign so much probably over there that's matt's show uh that we met yeah there you
02:03:37.260go straight bible and we just read the bible uh we break it down so many good things about that
02:03:43.700I hear, I want to get on there so bad. And I told Matt, whenever I was at Brogrove, I said, Matt, I'm going to be getting on there. I'm going to be in the chat. And he goes, Oh God, Laura, you wouldn't want to, this is just for dumb people. And I was like, shut up. I'm going to get on there.
02:03:59.620But he's ridiculous. Things exploded for me. So I haven't been able to yet. But I hear everyone that I talk to that talks about straight Bible. They they love that show. They absolutely say I learned so much on there. So, yeah, it's amazing what God has done.0.96
02:04:16.800I enjoy it, too. I like being a part of it and doing it, and I like making it—we try to make it look as good as possible so that way we're putting as much effort toward the content that I think it deserves.
02:04:30.820So that way it looks the way—it looks as good as the message that's being provided, you know, within it.
02:04:38.040So that's something. If you guys like that, that's a more serious show.
02:04:41.240We're going to talk about the Bible. We're going to cross-reference the Bible.
02:04:43.360We're reading old preachers like A.W. Tozer and G. Campbell Morgan.
02:04:50.820Those are the series that we're going through right now.
02:04:52.640I think we finished up with Spurgeon a little bit.
02:05:23.200Thank you, God, for introducing us to Laura and Gerardo now, man.
02:05:28.340This has been a blessing, an unexpected blessing to be able to come across these people, to interact with them, for them to host us on their shows, for us to host them on ours, and to have this conversation, to spread our testimony,
02:05:42.180to hear from them, to be able to get wisdom from people that have been in this for way longer than
02:05:47.380us. And I really look forward to continuing our relationship with these people. And I'm just
02:05:53.880grateful for you putting everything that you have in our lives in front of us. Man, what a crazy
02:06:01.520ride. And I'm looking forward to doing more of it. Thank you. In the name of Jesus, I pray. Amen.
02:06:07.780amen amen amen beautiful beautiful i love that love that thank you thank you that was beautiful
02:06:15.560dudes thank you for your time thank you guys even know what the word dudes is because yeah we use it
02:06:20.300so young oh yeah we use it constantly i actually met poli shore i call my son dude all the time
02:06:25.980dude why haven't you cleaned your room there you go there's some people don't know what you look
02:06:30.800you say dude and they look at what's dude no we're very familiar with a lady we all know that1.00
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