Nephilim Death Squad - Slaying The Wizard w⧸ Owen Benjamin

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00:01:43.380 welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of nephilim death squad i am david lee

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00:03:03.800 that a guy has where he goes to different dimensions speaking of our guests today we are joined once again

00:03:08.980 by owen benjamin before we get into the conversation owen uh number one thank you for being here number

00:03:13.660 two let's talk about where everybody can find you support your work and what it is that you do

00:03:18.240 yeah well thanks for having me man uh what i do you know i did stand up for 20 years all kinds of

00:03:25.480 stuff in hollywood and uh and then you know when when everything started going down i wasn't allowed

00:03:30.460 to do stand up in clubs or theaters you guys got to see that firsthand with broho

00:03:34.080 and uh so i i got more into podcasting got into farming during uh covid and uh now i'm writing a

00:03:43.100 book called how to slay a wizard that i'm doing at ladle.tv unauthorized.tv and my website i also

00:03:49.140 teach piano yeah it's weird i don't really have a job title i do all kinds of weird shit

00:03:53.520 you want to learn like that you go like he goes uh yeah i i used to be you know big into comedy and

00:04:02.920 hollywood and everything and then when that went south i became a farmer i'm just like damn dude

00:04:07.680 what a segue what a beautiful move i find myself in that same predicament lately where uh like i'll

00:04:13.600 my wife's friends uh will she'll introduce me my wife and they go well what do you do because we

00:04:19.700 know what your wife does and i go i don't know what the fuck i do i do a lot of different things

00:04:24.260 and you know what it is when somebody says like i literally sound like a mobster i'm like i take

00:04:30.200 care of things i take care of business you know i just whatever has to be done i do it's like it's

00:04:35.980 kind of like yeah they're in waste waste disposal you know they're like waste management that's me

00:04:42.220 like literally right now i'm making my kids are making hats that we sell we make cheese i have a

00:04:48.620 podcast i do every day i'm developing land uh i i run a festival like it's like i i write books and

00:04:57.380 i teach classical piano to children you know it's like and as soon as like the bands lifted i'll do

00:05:03.220 more stand-up comedy because that was like my main gift in life you know it's like yeah what's my job

00:05:08.900 what's my 401 like what's my uh uh loan application look like that's why i don't i don't do long because

00:05:15.000 i don't even know what to say how much money do you make tons or zero depending if people

00:05:19.620 tax season is a damn nightmare right yeah because i'm sitting down there like he's like well where

00:05:27.060 did this money come from and i was like i talk shit into a microphone he goes how about that money and i

00:05:31.840 go i sell t-shirts and they're like what about this this comes from racist tweets i don't know

00:05:37.760 i don't really know how to quantify this yeah um why did you get paid this from this guy it's like

00:05:43.640 well i guess i connected a lot of dots that helped him relieve trauma

00:05:47.000 yo actually just before as as you were talking to matt uh david walks in with like a check or

00:05:54.100 something he's like we just got a donation from somebody like for what he's like we don't know

00:05:57.780 it's like i don't even know how are we going to claim this oh dude i don't even want to think

00:06:01.000 it's just income you're it's all good like they don't care as long as you pay them your cut

00:06:06.400 you know yeah i guess that's just income you know they're like okay yeah we don't care where

00:06:14.240 it comes just give us some of it yeah it's like some old guy at a coffee shop with demons gave you

00:06:18.280 money whatever i guess so we're gonna need half of that like some people just have that feeling of

00:06:24.420 value like it used to blow my mind because i was raised in a culture where like you don't accept

00:06:28.660 money from people and i'd be like no don't give me any money and then people would be like dude if

00:06:33.120 we don't you can't do this for a living you're not even allowed on paypal i'm like okay and then i

00:06:39.440 just realized that some people like it's it's value and i i like to pay for value it keeps the scales

00:06:44.820 balanced and i'm like sure and the government's like give me part of it and i'm like okay just keep

00:06:50.420 it cool man let me tell you working with owen was probably one of the most stressful things like

00:06:55.440 besides the cancellation that was fine but then it's like at the end i'm like how do i pay this

00:06:59.420 guy he's banned off everything's like do you accept dollars are you allowed to have dollars he's like

00:07:03.580 i don't know yeah it becomes very complicated venmo i'm like i can't do that they're not a lot

00:07:09.780 i'm not allowed to do venmo do you do cash app i'm like bars of gold yeah no totally that's why i'm

00:07:16.740 like i got into gold and silver because it's like everything in the post office post office is true

00:07:21.780 free speech you know that's interesting you've been talking a lot about that and i i can't

00:07:28.100 say that i understand it there's so many things i don't understand but i've seen you really like

00:07:33.240 you know kind of give big ups to the post office what do you what do you mean by that i don't

00:07:36.720 understand why is the post office crushed so hard it's all i mean i got to talk about this a lot more

00:07:42.360 if you don't understand about the post office because it's like the fundamental of american freedom

00:07:46.440 jeez really uh my dad my dad worked for them for like 70 years dude it would benjamin franklin

00:07:54.800 started it's like the thing that makes america great is the post office because all parcels you

00:08:00.540 can just send it to another human being without any oversight nobody looks in it nobody messes with it

00:08:06.720 it's cheap it's you know those stamps are actually like a bank they they you can like just owning

00:08:13.200 stamps is a curb against inflation really i thought that was like an indicator of autism i thought it

00:08:19.800 was too yeah especially when they're collecting them and they have trains on them yeah but other

00:08:25.000 you know but uh yeah no the post office general and the sheriff are the two most important uh positions

00:08:30.680 in america i had no idea i didn't know that the post office was was so significant i i can't even

00:08:37.220 bring myself to like mail anything i think the good the good thing about the post office is that

00:08:40.800 they don't care that much like they don't they're like oh this guy's banned from you know australia

00:08:46.020 this guy can't have he's like we don't care just send the mail yeah just yeah rain sleet or snow

00:08:50.700 and it's like look at all this stuff behind me like this is all stuff people like just make and send

00:08:55.180 to me because uh because they had to i mean it wasn't by choice i was banned from like everything

00:09:01.500 and people are like i'll just send you a letter i'll just send you look i made this hat oh i made this

00:09:06.580 thing like you know someone just like made this cup they're just like and then it just started i

00:09:11.240 started realizing that people they could express themselves with their art or like things that mean

00:09:16.400 something to them and then i saw how gold and silver was retaining value and i'm just like oh man

00:09:22.820 there's such a scam going on it's like these layers of lies on top of lies with uh with the cyber world

00:09:28.960 outside of it it's still functioning perfectly america is still functioning exactly the way it's supposed

00:09:34.180 to function is that would you say that that's the goal of the or the job of the wizard in today's

00:09:41.400 society to kind of like uh cast and and spin these webs and spells for us to kind of because i i've

00:09:48.940 fallen into this echo chamber where you look at twitter or you look at some online stuff and you

00:09:53.260 think that that's reality but i think what we've been doing now which is it was a good move is now we're

00:10:00.840 in the community a lot more yeah i like doing the show in the coffee shop rather than at my house

00:10:06.740 because we get to walk through and you see real people from different walks of life and you're

00:10:10.880 like oh it's actually not like that it's okay yeah that's well that's an well not everything's

00:10:15.260 completely okay but that's an interesting concept when it comes to like i you know i don't know if

00:10:19.140 that's going to be what we're going to get into this idea of wizards and spellcasting and i've said

00:10:23.340 it on the show before it's like if you don't believe spellcasting at a spiritual

00:10:26.180 um angle at least what you could do is look at it as casting perception if you believe that

00:10:32.020 sentiment of like perception is reality well if you can control the general perception of a thing

00:10:38.640 then you could effectively cast a spell and change reality or at least the way that it's perceived and

00:10:43.520 if those two things are so close perception is reality then maybe you could change reality on some

00:10:49.800 level not at its fundamental root but at least the way that people engage with it is is that what you

00:10:55.300 mean owen when you're talking about wizards and uh wizards the the issue that wizards have with

00:11:01.280 with a living man or living woman is the same it's kind of like we've been given the post office and

00:11:06.340 sheriffs you know it's like free will is the thing they can't change reality all they like when they

00:11:11.800 say perception is reality you know like edward bernays and all those guys all they can do is get you to

00:11:17.860 choose something that goes against your interests and there's a whole art to it they can't actually do

00:11:24.240 anything to you and that gets into the the relationship between you know the devil and

00:11:28.480 god where it's like the devil can't make you do it so that's why i'm like writing this book called

00:11:33.560 how to slay a wizard the devil's playbook because it's like the same tricks over and over again and

00:11:38.460 it's typically giving someone the ability of doing something sinful or something they wanted to do

00:11:46.260 anyway but the wizard will give them a narrative to make them feel good about it oh that this is uh

00:11:52.080 it's interesting because uh so our boy matt he does uh he does a show on on the channel it's

00:11:58.400 called straight bible he just picks up a book of the bible and i'll talk to you about it but

00:12:01.840 yesterday he did the book of jude and the first four verses are exactly what you're talking about

00:12:06.520 but it's within the church so throughout antiquity they try to destroy the church by

00:12:12.120 killing the people and that doesn't seem to work doesn't work at all yeah the best way to do it is

00:12:17.200 infiltration and in the bible this is also something that they don't really preach on in

00:12:21.940 like a conventional church but in that book of jude the first four verses they're talking about

00:12:26.740 like yo these guys say that they're your brothers but they're kind of doing slippery stuff and what

00:12:30.980 they're really doing instead of feeding their spirit or their soul is they're feeding their their

00:12:35.660 bellies they're feeding their flesh yes in margarita totally totally totally yeah exactly no that's

00:12:43.180 100 it man and and like killing someone i call blowing the dandelion you know where it's like

00:12:48.520 when you're doing farming you're trying to get rid of weeds the thing you don't want to do is just like

00:12:53.300 grab it and rip it out because then all the seeds go everywhere so you you can't you have to change the

00:13:00.140 environment where they're in or you have to do it at the right time or whatever but with human beings

00:13:05.200 it's the same thing like force doesn't work at all you have reward uh ideology coercion and ego

00:13:11.140 like those are ways to manipulate people and coercion is by far the worst because it immediately

00:13:16.740 creates a backlash that usually is exponential and that's why in the past the wizards you know

00:13:22.720 have learned this like that's when the villagers chop all their heads off because it's like it

00:13:26.620 doesn't work so the thing is to get the person to choose it and there's so many strategies you know

00:13:33.800 like the last chapter i did at ladle.tv and it's nine dollars and 11 cents a month so you never forget

00:13:39.260 nice um it was called uh it was about uh it was what was the name of it it's like folgers and aids

00:13:48.860 and it was uh struthers and folgers and aids oh my and i go through because the thing about lies is

00:13:55.560 over time they look insanely stupid like and you guys have seen this with stuff even six months ago

00:14:01.020 you know it's like like something will happen and everyone that the spell is going on and then like

00:14:06.000 later you're like wait a minute what the hell was that what was oliver anthony you know what was

00:14:09.980 a cry for freedom or whatever you know you like see all this stuff go back to oliver oliver anthony

00:14:15.640 kind of sang that into fruition with the ebt cards right oh that's interesting he's talking about the

00:14:20.820 the yodels or whatever yeah yeah yeah now saturday i think that's over so very excited looking forward

00:14:26.080 to i don't know them burning down my local walmart or some shit what happened like they took away

00:14:31.060 their walmart cards they took away the ebt or the snap or whatever that's the big thing that's

00:14:35.360 going on right now is like this idea that they're going to take away snap benefits or i don't know

00:14:39.520 you know food well i mean that's uh that's interesting if they're doing that because that means that they

00:14:44.480 don't want them to like die anymore that's interesting because that well it seems like it's everything

00:14:49.100 this guy was so like the food they're giving them is to get them obese and dead you know so like

00:14:55.020 yodels yeah so that means they're they're taking the their foot off the eugenics uh stuff

00:15:00.940 that's well i was talking to this guy in the shop this morning who used to make a he makes a like a

00:15:05.860 spying you know sort of software that the nsa used or it was like an old dude that's retired here in

00:15:12.160 the in the village this is a weird spot it's a really weird spot just about anybody and he he was

00:15:17.680 saying that he's got some guys on the inside that are claiming that the purpose of this is to basically

00:15:23.440 turn up the the pot boil the water a little bit more aggressively so that there are more riots and

00:15:28.780 protests you know civil unrest and things of that nature so who knows i try not to like i look at it

00:15:34.180 and i'll comment on it it's kind of fun but i recognize that the trap of it is to get you in

00:15:39.960 this like low vibrational state where you're worried or you're fearful about a thing that's coming so

00:15:46.480 people are coming in the shop and they're going did you know that walmart is going to be shut down

00:15:50.800 on november 1st because the blacks are going to steal from walmart because they don't care anymore

00:15:57.400 i've been stealing from walmart this whole time this guy's been doing it you know every day so

00:16:02.100 so you know it's an interesting thing i don't know what they're gonna what they're gonna end up

00:16:05.740 doing but it's all that's supposed to happen no you know that's why it's interesting because

00:16:09.040 you know the average ebt user i bet is a hundred pounds heavier you know and then just someone that

00:16:15.920 can't get enough quote-unquote food because the food you're getting is actually killing you so it's

00:16:20.240 like you know it's it's actually inverted well like for example one of the wizard moves with aids

00:16:26.740 was during aids they also had a diet pill called aids and i've i've named it polarity seating from

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00:17:30.740 i can't breathe masks during covid where like george floyd the thing was i can't breathe and then

00:17:37.140 everyone has a mask that i think that's totally intentional because during aids you have in the

00:17:43.160 80s and you have a guy named greg lou gayness like gay anus that was like the main aids guy who hit his

00:17:49.260 head on a board and bled in the pool in the olympics and he's this flaming gay guy people just forget about

00:17:54.580 this and then magic johnson which means wizard penis like you know magic johnson it's like yeah yeah i

00:18:02.220 never thought about that for some reason cock you know it's like okay and none of them and they're

00:18:08.080 all still alive you know and it's the same guy it's vouching everything so while that's happening

00:18:12.700 you have these commercials where they're like where it's like i just can't lose the weight and this

00:18:17.400 doctor's like have you tried the aids diet and this is dead serious it's happening at the same time

00:18:22.360 it's like aids diet it's like aids is a non-stimulant and you'll lose all that weight and it's happening

00:18:28.780 like the same exact time and i think what happens is it's trying to get people into the state of

00:18:35.300 nonsense where you're not trusting your senses it's kind of like boot camp or hypnotism and then once

00:18:42.200 you're in that state where you don't trust your spirit you know they call it the holy spirit where

00:18:46.620 it's like just that inner knowledge of like what is good and bad and right and wrong that's when you

00:18:51.580 can become a slave it's kind of like a lobotomy and so these are the ways that people get that way

00:18:57.940 that's why like knowing who you are and not bending and you guys have seen me do that over

00:19:03.060 the years and it's like crazy that backlash but it's like you know the other option for me is way

00:19:09.600 worse where you're like you know yeah joe rogan's super tall like i you just can't do that because

00:19:16.040 then you lose everything in my opinion they're doing another one of these fear campaign things

00:19:20.640 speaking of rogan um and he just had this guy on avi loeb and he's like a harvard scientist but he's

00:19:27.360 kind of this doom and gloom character today like uh the thing yeah harvard watched margarine too

00:19:33.900 remember it's the same thing it's like do you want to eat butter without any guilt margarine and then

00:19:37.700 all these guys were dying of heart attacks at 45 and no one wants to talk about it anyway yes harvard

00:19:42.740 is like you know eugenics ground zero propaganda machine you know it is uh yeah ground zeros for it

00:19:48.840 but but he um he's got this guy on abby loeb and abby is this you know this harvard you know

00:19:54.700 educated jew and he's and he's like an astrophysicist wizard that's like literally a title of wizard

00:20:02.160 yeah it's like a guy that makes you astrophysics what does that mean it's physics that you can't show

00:20:07.880 that isn't real it's in your mind and you're like oh it's kind of the same thing with quantum physics

00:20:12.540 quantum physics i'm like you're just saying shit dude and i don't think you know what this means

00:20:16.100 so so avi is saying like three eye atlas is this big doom and gloom thing him

00:20:21.180 anna paulina luna she's she's a congresswoman in it and they're saying hey there's this giant

00:20:26.520 celestial object headed our way wait her name's for real yeah luna that's great no that's it's

00:20:32.980 actually a fake name her name is something else yeah she's a she's a jewish lady it's like yeah yeah

00:20:37.960 she renamed herself to uh moon fit in with the moon moon goddess divine feminine uh yeah so so you

00:20:46.040 know they're predicting and now there's we we picked up on it a few months ago been watching it because

00:20:50.480 it's this endless source of comedy right it's it's yeah they're saying like the new york post is

00:20:55.520 posting articles like this thing we've just detected it it's trillions of miles away it is hostile and

00:21:00.720 it's gonna be here in november you haven't seen this thing three eye atlas dude it's a lot of fun

00:21:06.180 like i said endless source of comedy because you go how on earth could you speculate and then put in

00:21:10.900 this major news publication that this thing is hostile and it's coming for earth and they did this

00:21:15.560 months ago and now it's here and it's behind the sun right now which is like this big nefarious

00:21:20.760 thing that it was supposed to have done so i don't really understand it every time i look at it

00:21:24.760 they're just telling us like this thing's gonna murder us and i'm going where do you get that thing

00:21:29.440 there really they showed us there yeah yeah this was months ago and they were like do you see that

00:21:34.020 you can tell by the bones like gay sparkles on someone's wing like they do that shit all the

00:21:41.360 time like the pictures will actually be something funny well this is like a even if it is real it's

00:21:47.180 a definitively a time-lapse photo so it doesn't appear as an elongated series of lights it's one

00:21:52.200 light changing colors and that's a time-lapse photo but they put that out there and they go look

00:21:56.780 at this damn thing dude it is coming to kill you nasa's like all worried about it then he goes

00:22:01.860 uh at some point like they're like all right maybe it's not so mad but it's definitely going to drop

00:22:05.720 off drones they said that so this congresswoman and this harvard educated jew they come out and

00:22:11.700 they're like we need to get congress to pay attention to this thing because let me tell you

00:22:14.920 what it's going to do on the 30th which is today looking forward to it it's going to release drones

00:22:19.440 and they're going to appear to us as ufos so today apparently it's going behind the sun

00:22:24.320 oh it's great this is so much fun we've been just been watching great man they're like dude it turns

00:22:29.540 out all they want is more taxes from us like you guys are doing a bad job with the pollution

00:22:36.340 the go green thing is a good move i think you need to close the hole in the ozone it's like this big

00:22:41.620 fear campaign but now he's on rogan and rogan's like oh yeah man okay and like he's telling him like

00:22:47.560 he's telling him like you know oh this thing is coming and it's it's the source of like this

00:22:52.420 mysterious signal that was emitted towards us in the not in 1977 it's been communicating for all

00:22:57.900 of these years on and on and what year did they say they say 77 or was it like 73 so in 77 there

00:23:04.620 was this thing called the wow signal and it was like this wow i think everything has to do with

00:23:09.360 the financial system so i was just wondering if it's when we got in the petrodollar like i i don't

00:23:13.860 know i mean we talked to a dude named jordan crowder this three i atlas the i stands for

00:23:18.600 interstellar and three is just the third interstellar object that's passed through our

00:23:22.120 our galaxy and all that means is like since we developed the technology to detect these things

00:23:27.200 yeah it's the best dude it's like everybody's getting story

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00:24:25.940 so that's like victorian times so the guy who actually coined the phrase photography his father

00:24:36.860 you know he was the president of the you know the the royal astronomy foundation like this huge

00:24:43.180 astronomer like they have a telescope named after him i forgot his name but he said that with his new

00:24:48.640 telescope brand new like this new technology he could see that there were uh that there was life

00:24:53.820 on the moon and they had temples and they had they were batmen and that there was only nice yeah there

00:25:00.680 was over a trillion inhabitants and it was in all the newspapers and it was like this guy was like one

00:25:06.380 of the heads of science you know it was like in like the edinburgh thing and now no one wants to

00:25:11.600 just no one will talk about it he's like no i have this technology that can see the moon and everyone's

00:25:16.520 like holy fuck what do you see there and he's like woolly mammoths like they're just liars you know but i love

00:25:23.100 it dude yeah yeah and so these people are like you know darpa gives us this technology where no one else

00:25:28.460 can see it but right behind the moon there's three atlas and it means that you're gonna have like a drone

00:25:34.180 army try and clip the tip of your dick again you know it's like it's total nonsense well there are

00:25:39.940 people that get whisked up in the fear of it think about what they say is in the center of the earth

00:25:44.580 they're like oh it's a liquid core of nickel spinning counterclockwise i'm like dude the deepest anyone's

00:25:51.740 ever been is is eight miles like total and and nothing they predicted was happening imagine if like i live

00:25:59.580 in idaho you guys in florida it's roughly you know a few thousand miles if i'm like okay i've never left

00:26:05.400 an eight mile zone but i'll tell you exactly what's thousands of miles away and no one's ever seen it or

00:26:12.300 been there but i know because i have this this box in this box you don't understand it but there's

00:26:18.260 squiggles on it and every now and then it beeps and so when it beeps i only i know how to understand

00:26:25.740 what that means and so that means in oklahoma you have a cyclops you know it's like retarded same

00:26:32.500 with like they're like how how do you know how old this fossil is they're like because of the

00:26:36.700 sedimentary layer it's in you're like how do you know how old that is they're like it's because of

00:26:40.920 the fossils that are in it and you're like that's circular reasoning they're like oh how dare you

00:26:46.640 you're a failed comedian and you're like oh you're wizards like you guys straight up went to

00:26:51.800 fucking hogwarts man there's that that clip that i was uh referencing is that probably the greatest

00:26:57.320 clip i've seen online a long time but the guy stand in front of a tv and he's like we know that

00:27:01.340 this guy like he really took care of his young he's pointing at a dinosaur and he's like well how do you

00:27:06.200 know he's like because of the bones dude i love that i showed that on my stream that's genius it's like

00:27:12.160 the bones yeah and the guy keeps being like but how do you how do you know that he's like well and they

00:27:17.800 always do the thing where they're like oh i'm glad you asked that's a great question they like do that

00:27:21.680 stance like the science guy stance and they're like well it's the bones that's you can tell by

00:27:27.500 the bones dude it's like well i think the whole mountain's like a fucking dead giant and they're

00:27:32.020 like how dare you i'm like it's calcium carbonate it's the same you keep telling me the bones like

00:27:36.360 that is bone right and they're like okay that's why i stopped eating pink himalayan salts because

00:27:42.560 i was like these things might be the petrified innards of giants and i don't want to i'm not sure

00:27:46.640 if i should eat this anymore i legit think a ton is that i think that you ever see uh guardians of

00:27:51.520 the galaxy yeah dude remember they're all inside the giant head yeah that was such a truth drop they

00:27:57.500 called it nowhere which means utopia you know and they're like oh yeah it's uh they're they're mining

00:28:02.840 a dead ancient celestial being and and they're like it's chaos here which is like free will and

00:28:08.320 everybody only gambles all the time and i'm like oh okay that's what that is

00:28:12.980 i was actually talking about this on the stream last night where it's like somebody called in and

00:28:18.280 they go you know the three atlas stuff is fun which it is i look at it strictly as fun but they

00:28:23.000 go um how seriously should we even be taking it you know just in the sense of we don't know what

00:28:28.120 outer space is and they're telling us like you know this thing is coming from however many light

00:28:32.780 years the guy's like it's coming from three light days away i'm like shit we got light days do we have

00:28:38.840 light weeks in light months too well i will admit this though when we had we we interviewed that guy

00:28:43.120 jordan crowder yeah i knew he was going to come with that like he's like well because it's coming

00:28:46.780 from outer space and interstellar i was like i'm going to suspend all of my beliefs and just listen

00:28:52.020 to you and just have fun with it all the time yeah because metaphorically there's usually something

00:28:56.320 there yeah yeah there is something i was like this was fun and then after the episode was over i was

00:29:01.580 like n street what he said was like so the first interstellar object that passed through 2017 right

00:29:07.860 after that we start to get like the pentagon saying yo dog we we uh recovered off world craft

00:29:13.580 and so he thinks like there's a correlation there the second one that passes through which is umuamua

00:29:18.200 whatever that one creates uh you know creates the lockdowns and he's like so this one is coming

00:29:25.760 through and we're all gonna spiritually ascend maybe is what he said i don't know what i think it is

00:29:30.860 is like i don't know if it's actually a thing that's interstellar but every time there is something

00:29:36.920 that uh the ancients would see in the sky there's like it indicates a change right no i believe that

00:29:42.300 like dude i'm i'm i'm into it like uh uh sky charting i'm not like an astro astrology guy but

00:29:49.680 like how topher is that's like pretty legit like you know and the bible says you you know there's signs

00:29:55.780 you know you look for the signs like they do you know map that eras and ages in the sky

00:30:00.720 like that's some real shit it's just when they say they it's like it's a hundred billion billion

00:30:05.880 miles away and it means drones you're like what the fuck yeah they're like that's what wizardry is

00:30:12.380 it's like they know something that they won't show you it's always hidden because alchemy is just

00:30:17.800 baking bread it's like changing one thing to another like that's fine it's like wizardry relies

00:30:23.640 on the ignorance of the target and they won't let you know and as soon as you know then the wizardry

00:30:30.120 doesn't work it's all based on uh uh uh hidden you know and that's why i think they're gay

00:30:35.340 there's a big correlation between your ability to fall for the wizardry and you brought it up before

00:30:41.540 this idea of like being hypnotized like some people can't be hypnotized i don't think i could be

00:30:45.340 hypnotized i remember when i was at like uh uh like an eighth grade dinner dance or something even

00:30:50.720 when i was a kid they had a hypnotist there and he hypnotized all my friends i had friends barking i

00:30:56.040 had friends in like catatonic states as this as this adult man just manipulates the psychology of

00:31:01.760 of 13 year olds and uh but it didn't happen to me nothing happened to me and i felt left out but i

00:31:07.800 also felt like you guys are faking like i was looking around the room and i'm like this isn't real like

00:31:12.080 how come you guys are doing the the dog thing and the chicken thing but i don't feel anything and i

00:31:16.940 think there's something about your ability to fall for because let's be honest if they're doing the

00:31:22.000 wizardry right oh and mostly it's it's like fear it's a fear-based wizardry they want you to perceive

00:31:27.060 fear it gets you in this state where you're easily manipulated i think you're looking for solutions

00:31:32.260 they offer the solution it's a little hegelian dialectic kind of a dance going on and so um

00:31:37.680 if you're susceptible to being able to be put into a state of hypnosis you're probably also

00:31:42.640 susceptible to falling for the big fear campaigns that they push oh 100 and a lot of it is that you

00:31:49.360 want it so the fear thing will will put you in a state of malleability it's like heating metal so

00:31:54.660 you can bend it i'll give you a perfect example of what hypnotism is so there's this one guy that

00:31:59.200 was blowing everyone's minds and all these podcasts where you get you to hold your fingers like this

00:32:04.460 and he'd be like hold your fingers hold your fingers like that and be like okay hold your fingers

00:32:08.020 and i'd be like they're getting closer together they're getting closer together and people's

00:32:11.820 fingers just start going like that and and they're like holy shit the whole thing is that it's tiring

00:32:17.540 to do this like hypnotism also relies on exhaustion so this isn't a natural way of being so you just

00:32:25.820 want to do that and so when someone offers you a narrative to allow you to do the thing you want

00:32:31.140 to do you do it like that's most hypnotism is like you know imagine somebody is socially awkward and

00:32:38.640 they think that there's like a way that like a lot of this is like quote unquote subconscious but it's

00:32:43.480 still kind of conscious where it's like bark like a dog and it's their one time when they can just do

00:32:48.580 something social like in front of people and and that but but they've been given a reason to do it

00:32:54.820 like this guy's allowing them to do it based on this narrative same with covid where it's like

00:32:59.120 a lot of people had these hidden angers towards their neighbors or family they didn't want to go to

00:33:03.920 thanksgiving they didn't want to go to work they wanted uh to hide their face in public they didn't

00:33:09.560 want people to see how chubby their face got or the shame in their in their cheeks you know so they're

00:33:14.540 like oh this is a narrative where i cannot go to my father's fucking funeral because because it's like

00:33:21.120 for those of us that didn't take the bait like we could still do all the stuff like they were just

00:33:27.880 playing in this make-believe realm where it's like oh with this narrative we can believe this

00:33:32.720 and go with it it's kind of like the whole anti-semitism narrative it's like with that

00:33:37.140 narrative you can do horrendous things and control other people uh and but but you're still the hero

00:33:43.400 because if not you'd be a victim you know like these are just hypnotic spells and so that's why

00:33:49.440 in the end of the day to slay the wizard is all about inner strength it's all about the the kingdom

00:33:53.700 of god's within type stuff where it's like you have to just want not that because the time in the

00:33:59.620 past when i'd say i could be almost like enchanted was with women and it if i'm just honest with

00:34:05.640 myself it's because i wanted that you know i'd be like oh man this chick is she like put a spell

00:34:10.440 on me i like went back to her place and it's like yeah because i wanted to you know what i mean and

00:34:16.380 like the more alcohol you drink that's another excuse where you're like you're drinking alcohol

00:34:20.600 and you're like oh i was i was so drunk that's why i like i tried to fight that guy i hate and i had

00:34:25.820 sex with that girl i was attracted to you know it's like you're looking for a scapegoat a reason

00:34:29.620 exactly to give into that thing dude this is going to be a little bit of a weird story i'll make it

00:34:34.300 quick but like that idea that you want to engage in this thing and so the hypnotist gives you the

00:34:40.180 ability to engage in that thing and then also the discomfort of keeping your fingers separate

00:34:44.600 because your fingers just want to relax on each other when i was a kid i used to do that to people

00:34:49.240 i was taught a trick i forgot one second matt matt really quick are we gonna do this the matt cam

00:34:53.840 yeah we'll go to the matt cam what was that nobody bought us these stop it thank you what are they

00:35:00.420 what was that scripture that you were talking about uh that we brought up yesterday that was

00:35:04.760 talking about the soul the soul wants wants one thing in the flesh wants another there

00:35:09.580 right and yeah yeah so i'm gonna i'll show you this right now because we've been getting sorry

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00:35:47.180 big into the bible big into the bible big into the letter is intriguing because uh paul is saying

00:35:58.440 don't go back under judaism i don't want to offend my boy uh but he but that's the whole context of the

00:36:05.440 galatian letter is do not go back under judaism you guys are going back under judaism no bad this one

00:36:11.140 right here so the spirit against the flesh and these are contrary to one another and that's what

00:36:14.940 that's kind of what you're talking about owen that these things are like not he's a food forest guy he

00:36:20.060 understands spirit realm stuff yeah yeah and another like i'll give you another spell so one thing that i

00:36:24.960 battle now would be uh you know with all the great food i have i can just like pound a half gallon of

00:36:31.900 like fresh raw milk i just milked my wife is making pear crumble but that like a spell is dad bod where

00:36:40.160 you're like oh it's fine i can be a fat fuck i can have a dad bod because it's like you can be

00:36:46.880 you can have gluttony you know it literally is that it's always like because because like what do you

00:36:53.540 want to get away with and so that's why one way i usually tell if my morality is from the holy spirit

00:37:00.240 or from me trying to trick myself is is like do i always like it like am i always like yeah the thing

00:37:07.120 i want is the moral thing because if if that's the case it's not the more you know what i mean like

00:37:11.680 it's gonna suck sometimes where you're like i shouldn't eat this like this is excessive you know

00:37:16.980 what i mean it requires like starving the flesh not starving in the literal sense yeah it's all

00:37:22.300 the desires of the flesh look we're at the 33 minute mark we have to kick out these filthy poor

00:37:26.740 people that's unfortunate if you want to hear more about the desires of the flesh you want to go to

00:37:29.620 patreon.com forward slash nephilim death squad otherwise guys give it about a week or so this will drop

00:37:33.720 in its entirety we're gonna go hang out with the the paying members now the elites um which is a

00:37:39.140 good thing man i'm into that now that's why the the wizard stuff is only on ladle because there's

00:37:44.040 something about the not i'm not trying to call these people swine but allegedly okay call them swine

00:37:48.680 you can call them swine like the whole pearls before swine i used to always be like yeah but i want

00:37:53.700 everyone to hear this great stuff it actually isn't good for certain people like unless they make an

00:37:58.920 effort to like give back value it can actually have the opposite effect on people so it's actually

00:38:04.360 like the nicest thing you can do is a paywall sometimes i swear to god i think so and it's

00:38:08.680 also good because we have to in order to exist where youtube is we have to be able to censor some stuff

00:38:13.900 it's funny too like uh so that the woman i was telling you about that i had the conversation with

00:38:17.480 today ideologically well this is delicious i don't know if this is playing outside in the coffee shop

00:38:22.780 thank you to whoever bought us these these are wonderful yeah they're it's good but uh she's in direct

00:38:26.960 opposition to our like my ideology your ideology but she listens to the show and enjoys it and i go

00:38:32.720 well why are you listening i love that though yeah yeah and it's because like she's like well you

00:38:36.680 challenged me and now i'm like challenging back because she's like maybe i'm missing something or

00:38:42.720 maybe you're stupid but i want to know highly likely and i'm like all right that's the person that i want

00:38:47.280 to talk to i don't want to talk to somebody who's just going to be there hanging out passively and

00:38:51.960 saying like these guys are whatever or this and that like she's invested i'm like all right cool

00:38:56.320 let's have a deeper conversation that's the whole point of what of what i'm doing at least

00:39:00.420 yeah and she also sounds like she knows truth exists outside of herself which is like the whole

00:39:06.080 thing it's like well what do you know that i don't know or what do you you know versus the narcissist

00:39:11.240 wizard type is like whatever i want is the truth it's subjective perception is reality like that's how

00:39:17.000 they think where it's like oh you're going against my will so you're bad versus like huh i want us to

00:39:23.560 figure out the truth more together if do you see something i don't and that's this fundamental

00:39:27.840 of authority is outside of yourself which is like that that's usually what bonds people

00:39:32.840 you know um i was i was telling that story before that that idea of like like i said the hypnotist and

00:39:39.520 i used to do this thing when i was a kid i was in middle school and i don't know who taught it to me

00:39:43.900 but i created a state of discomfort in somebody so what it was was i would have my friend lay on their

00:39:48.380 stomach on the ground and they would have their arms outstretched above their head palms on the ground

00:39:51.820 i would lift their arms up and i would say let your head dangle what that does is immediately

00:39:56.800 causes a lot of stress it's an uncomfortable position the longer you're there the more

00:40:00.220 uncomfortable it gets i would say close your eyes and i would weave together this narrative i was i was

00:40:04.800 a kid and you know i had this horrifying story that i would tell people what i would basically say

00:40:09.440 you know sorry for the listeners but you're a you're a dildo that's your thing right now that's

00:40:13.860 what you are imagine yourself as a dildo you're inside somebody one thing i'll spare you the details

00:40:18.420 leads to another and an angry husband comes in doesn't like what he finds and strikes uh the

00:40:24.040 stomach of the wife who's using it sending the dildo out flying now as soon as i set that narrative

00:40:29.880 up and they're thinking about that i would then slowly lower their arms towards the ground but like

00:40:35.080 really slow and i would say you're flying through the air you're flying through the you crash through

00:40:38.640 the window you're up in the clouds dude this is insane though right i would say you're flying through

00:40:42.540 the clouds you're flying through the clouds you're plummeting back to the earth and as i'm saying

00:40:46.020 that they're anticipating the relief of touching the ground but they've already touched the ground

00:40:50.740 no they they're nowhere near the ground because of the slowness that so now they've perceived their

00:40:55.720 hands as i say there's a hole in the earth you've fallen through the earth so where they're anticipating

00:41:00.880 the touch of the ground they're still like two feet off the ground their arms are in the air

00:41:04.380 so they think that they are and these people albeit we're in middle school they're freaking out

00:41:11.220 they're like kicking and and you know writhing around they're like oh my god oh my god oh my god

00:41:16.080 and i would slowly so so basically the whole ploy was because of the tension on your arms you're

00:41:20.520 anticipating the ground you want the ground you want the belief of putting your palms on the ground

00:41:24.720 it's nowhere near and you're all messed up because your eyes are closed so that gives this whole

00:41:29.620 additional layer to the sensation these people would stand up and they'd be like dude i was there i was

00:41:35.180 flying through the sky i was flying through the clouds i went through the window i was the dildo and i'm like

00:41:40.080 that right there is like a powerful metaphor like for people if you create a stressful situation

00:41:46.160 yes and you naturally came up with that because you have novelty like the dildo thing is perfect for

00:41:52.280 that example because it's like it's comedic and vulgar enough to get through another line of defense

00:41:58.300 yes you know and then somebody taught me the thing but i weave the story yeah yeah no and it's like

00:42:06.000 that's why torture is all about where it's all about uncomfort it's discomfort it's not about

00:42:11.480 just like writhing pain you just get people in a position that's not comfortable and then over time

00:42:17.840 they're like they just start submitting you know they'll submit to get like they fantasize about that

00:42:23.360 that comfort and then you know i mean covid was that exactly it it was like put on the mask and then

00:42:30.140 the uncomfort and then it was like the vaccine was going to be the thing to relieve your comfort as soon

00:42:34.720 as we get the vaccine then the mask will come off you can go back to normal because the uncomfort of

00:42:39.280 not having a normal rhythm was driving people insane and that's why it's all about your own

00:42:44.720 inner strength like that's why to beat the wizard it has to be like your identity is not externalized

00:42:50.240 i was telling uh my lawyer a good trick to use for jury selection was just ask a potential juror

00:42:57.020 how do you get a cold and if the answer is uh because these these dirty kids i'm always around

00:43:04.140 all these people and i i had to go to work that means they're externalizing authority or if they

00:43:09.200 say i haven't been getting enough sleep i haven't been drinking enough orange juice then it's internal

00:43:14.060 and so if you're trying to sue a corporation you want a juror that externalizes the thought like it's

00:43:19.460 it's their fault yeah it's like their fault that i got hurt versus it's my own fault and the internal

00:43:26.920 guy is much stronger but if you're yeah if you want someone to pay a hundred million dollars for

00:43:32.420 getting burned by coffee it's like you want the guy that blames the the kid on the bus for the cold

00:43:37.680 that's a that's a really deep insight into like a character trait that uh that's a real dividing line

00:43:45.160 right i mean it's like two types of people yeah yeah yeah because i would look at that and i would

00:43:49.560 go like oh well what role did i play in this you know was i getting i would blame my kid i'm i'm

00:43:54.500 they're filthy dude i've been sick twice in the last two weeks and i'm pretty sure it's because

00:44:00.080 they coughed in my mouth but you know yeah so i'll be on the jury because i always think like what

00:44:05.100 about the stresses that are like digging my immune system right like that kind of a deal is is where i go

00:44:10.100 like have i been getting enough sleep have i been doing too much and running myself thin yeah it's it's

00:44:15.080 highly likely that i'm going to end up getting sick because i've been redlining it like that's

00:44:18.680 like if i get shot in the back by an n it's my fault so i'm not going to live around them

00:44:24.280 that's it that's it well don't go to walmart on the first because i think that that's what

00:44:30.120 they're doing they're planning on have you seen you haven't seen these videos dude they're saying

00:44:33.920 the craziest things i watch videos of women in uh shower caps because that's the big thing they

00:44:38.500 wear shower caps outside and uh and these black chicks are going oh you know white people you used

00:44:44.720 to be you used to be afraid you used to think that we were going to do x y and z to you now

00:44:49.280 your fear is justified your fear is justified because come in november 1st you know once they

00:44:55.620 stop our benefits we're robbing people this is this is what's happening that's a weird phenomenon

00:45:00.300 because i don't i don't believe them but i feel like that's an extension of the wizardry

00:45:04.200 right it's almost like they're engaging oh and i will say i do externalize some i blame my kids

00:45:09.960 sometimes for uh missing sleep so i think it's always on a spectrum so i just want you to know

00:45:15.660 that i'm not like looking down at the people that externalize because i every now and then i'm like

00:45:20.100 the fuck i didn't i didn't get good sleep because he had to fucking freak out you know

00:45:24.520 well there is a an extent where you do like you have to recognize when it is an external thing but

00:45:30.100 also if you don't take personal accountability for like the shit that's going on in your life then you

00:45:35.040 have no agency to fix it i think both things can be true like like like i said i've been redlining

00:45:40.320 it for sure yeah i've been stressed out breathing acrylic fumes also my kid coughed like open mouth

00:45:45.900 coughed into my mouth and i'm like yeah i'm sick now those things dude i mean even sickness i mean

00:45:52.880 think about it's almost like an offer i think our body when we see people coughing and freaking out

00:45:57.800 our body's like okay we should have a detox that's an excuse to do it right because i don't i

00:46:03.120 i don't think viruses are what people say but you know i think it sounds exactly like j wizardry like

00:46:09.480 to the max yeah it's like you can't see it doesn't procreate it's not alive we've never shown it cause

00:46:16.280 anything but it it it wants to make you sick it's like it's like saying firefighters cause fire you're

00:46:23.480 like they're always present at the fire so it's like no what if viruses are what your body like

00:46:29.800 releases when it's sick you know like shedding season yeah yeah like i believe in like bacteria

00:46:36.080 if you're around like shit you're gonna get sick like i'm not but but viruses have never been seen

00:46:42.180 to do anything ever like not once and so yeah i don't i don't know i'm not in it's it's strange

00:46:50.440 because a lot of that like spell casting is around things that you can't see so trust us like you can't

00:46:56.920 see space bitch so trust us and you can't see like microorganisms so trust us you can't see quantum

00:47:03.220 super state particles so trust us and it's like i maybe that's like a real uh red flag that you should

00:47:10.540 be looking out for it's like when you have an unverifiable thing that you have to trust a governing

00:47:14.880 body an authority figure that goes like trust me i got it's like you know when you have to trust like

00:47:19.980 the pope because the pope goes like no dude i got it under control like i'm i'm king of the

00:47:24.240 spiritual realm here i'm i'm second in command trust me like there's a lot of that kind of stuff

00:47:29.140 where i think that is that's your first red flag where you should be like hold on pump the brakes

00:47:33.840 a little bit slow down i don't know if i should believe this person yeah it's like right here in

00:47:36.920 the bible it says the opposite though and he's like i mean the bible is written for retards

00:47:41.440 look what do you say at that point he's like i got a fish head says we're two rather in my name

00:47:48.100 it's like you know it's going against the idea of vitals and bloodlines and stuff yeah and it's

00:47:53.700 like but my hat's a fish and look there's a naked kid on the wall you know

00:47:59.480 i lost you guys for a second are you guys yeah man uh i i think we yeah we're getting a little bit

00:48:09.760 cut up there yeah um we're having can you hear us yeah i can hear you now did you hear my hilarious

00:48:15.540 joke about the naked okay there's probably a i did and i heard the the fish hat reference too and

00:48:21.820 that really can you do me a favor owen go ahead and uh i think that's us it will i think there

00:48:26.020 might have been a uh a lace latency developed because of that okay so uh just refresh your

00:48:30.840 browser real quick uh owen because it won't fix the connection but it will fix the potential latency

00:48:35.020 um yeah man that's an interesting concept though like this idea of of spell casting

00:48:42.220 you know and and wizards i mean i think that's exactly what we're being subjected to

00:48:46.440 uh is because everybody thinks when you're like oh you talk about spell casting you talk about wizards

00:48:51.280 like yeah i mean there's precedent for wearing a fish hat or wearing the robes or you know in the

00:48:57.320 the star spangled hat merlin kind of a dude with a beard but i think that people can really get behind

00:49:04.500 wizardry makes you like reactive right because you think of fantasy films and such

00:49:11.740 but we're talking about manipulating perception like that's a huge thing well this is what it

00:49:17.220 seems like this is what you're going to try to do with uh you're writing a book on us right yeah

00:49:20.900 yeah how does how to say a wizard because that's the whole thing like a lot of times you can't say

00:49:26.400 it directly so yeah it seems like you're gonna come

00:49:28.960 do you guys still have me oh no are the wizard are the wizards doing it we're getting

00:49:36.900 we're getting blapped up by the internet here i don't know what the heck is going on um but your

00:49:43.500 book how to kill avi loeb that's what you were uh talking about no but it's like in literature they

00:49:48.820 they'll they'll use these these metaphors to to show truth because you can't just say it directly

00:49:54.240 because one people don't want to hear it and two you have that's how you like trigger the powers that

00:49:59.520 be like alice in wonderland is totally about all this shit but you can't really say it so you have

00:50:04.720 to say it about like people talking backwards and you know going into the underworld the mad hatter

00:50:11.180 you know a lot of these guys were dying of mercury poisoning like you're doing like a um like a like

00:50:17.220 a critique of the culture at the time but you have to hide it some way like harry potter is about the

00:50:23.640 bbc you know it's about this hogwarts is the perception management of you know the western world

00:50:29.780 that's interesting it's about the bbc yeah they're training can you talk a little bit more about

00:50:37.940 that well i just came up with the idea of the bbc but just any routers whatever it's about wizards

00:50:43.760 casting spells it's called broadcasting you know my dad was a professor at this shit it's called

00:50:49.400 broadcasting okay what are you casting like you know spells it's called spelling you know what i

00:50:57.000 mean it's like cursive and everyone's like yeah but it's but it's you know it sounds like fairy tale

00:51:03.400 stuff i'm like no but it is that though like look at what you get when you graduate you put a square

00:51:08.900 on your fucking head and you wear a robe and it's nonsense in the heat of battle your squad relies on you

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00:51:36.920 so it's like if i have a square on my head and i put this from here to here that means i'm smart

00:51:47.300 that's nonsense it's the same with like what a drill sergeant does to somebody it's like

00:51:52.660 you get them to a degree where you have to look to your the guy screaming at you like can i sit down

00:51:58.220 right now do i have an ability of taking a piss and uh and that's how you get someone so detached from

00:52:04.360 their instincts and their inner knowledge that they'll run into a machine gun and die because

00:52:09.180 they want a little nonsense square on their chest it's like if you get a stripe that means you're

00:52:15.480 brave that was like the whole point of uh wizard of oz it's like this genius story about that it's

00:52:20.820 like the wizard of ounce like oz you know it's like the yellow brick road to the emerald city of the

00:52:25.960 green the green back it was all about uh in 1933 they made gold illegal to own in america they

00:52:32.600 replace it with a dollar that's green you know don't fall asleep in the poppy fields with fentanyl

00:52:38.320 you know it's like and so at the end the wizard of oz is showing people he's like where i come from

00:52:43.020 you don't have to be brave you just have to wear a medal where i come from you don't have to uh it's

00:52:48.260 not about how much love you have for other people it's how many people love you and gives them this

00:52:52.860 nonsense philanthropy thing it was like a hard-hitting satire at the time where it's like

00:52:59.420 an external validation for your qualities it's not about are you brave like you can be a coward

00:53:06.700 but here's a medal of valor and so once you're not looking inward and you're looking outward to

00:53:12.180 define who you are like i am blah blah blah like you know your identity then um then you're you're

00:53:19.520 you're no longer susceptible to the wizard you know and the wizard is real it's like a real fucking

00:53:24.280 thing and so the the idea of journalism is is wizardry it's like what's a journal how about

00:53:31.160 if they called it diaryism like we all have diaries you know it's like that's what a journal

00:53:35.820 is you just write down your thoughts it's like that doesn't dictate reality you know well it does

00:53:42.760 but it does though well it dictates people's like behavior like we are creators here in a sense that

00:53:49.620 their their spells don't do shit if you don't believe it i mean look what just happened with uh

00:53:54.500 atlas three with me like that will have zero effect on me or my life at all and if if everyone was like

00:54:01.680 that there it wouldn't change reality the whole thing is hey do you want to be a part of this crazy

00:54:07.100 story because this happens all the time like six months ago there was a fucking asteroid gonna take

00:54:11.880 out the world then people just yep they forget it's like they forget and then they go on to the next

00:54:16.420 thing because they just want that they're like oh the ends are gonna burn down the city again it's like

00:54:22.280 okay it's interesting because it's like we've been primed for a lot of these like disaster scenarios and

00:54:28.760 and then that priming through like whatever media spellcasting right hollywood and all this crap

00:54:33.220 it creates like this almost longing for it this desire for it and maybe you couple that with the

00:54:40.380 pressures of like this in like this unnatural system that we're locked in right where you like you work

00:54:45.600 this nine to five your wife works at nine to five the state raises your kid and you like kind of

00:54:49.540 longing for the blacks that take over your town i don't know like oh you're a dildo flying through

00:54:54.540 the air going down a pit you're longing to touch the earth yeah exactly and you keep that pressure

00:55:01.700 on them you know and that pressure creates that that longing effect and it is it's weird because

00:55:06.440 you are uh you're externalizing authority right and you're and you're looking for validation from

00:55:11.740 these authority figures you go through this public school system which is very much about kind of like

00:55:16.060 crushing you until you'll sort of begin assimilate and become a cog and then when you're done with

00:55:22.540 you know middle school high school you have two options you can either continue the slow boil so you

00:55:27.260 go to university and you and you kind of like once again bend the knee to higher education uh authority

00:55:33.700 figures and then you yourself might be able to become one when we give you this little piece of paper and

00:55:37.680 certificate but if that is not working maybe your speed is a little bit faster we can put you straight

00:55:43.260 into the military well you will be immediately crushed into that submission and handing over your

00:55:47.740 your own like sense of authority to another individual and and then they'll give you yeah

00:55:52.540 medals and stripes this conversation really puts into perspective when uh i mean you see it all the

00:55:57.300 time online they'll accuse owen of being a cult leader yeah because you're doing a thing and i guess

00:56:03.580 we are anybody that's doing like creator shit we're doing a thing where we're influencing the

00:56:09.240 people that are watching us and i don't know if that's like i'm not like i don't know if i'm doing

00:56:13.940 it intentionally but i know that they are being influenced by the things that we say yeah and the

00:56:19.760 outsider that already has that influence is looking at owen and he's like this guy's a cult leader

00:56:24.260 and it's like this is the reaction that you have to have because if owen is now breaking down

00:56:32.440 he's breaking your uh you're like your existence your kind of power structure too yeah the dichotomy

00:56:39.460 of how you operate and he's building something different here you have to then accuse him of

00:56:45.660 what you're actually a part of it's very it must be very jarring for them and what's crazy too dude

00:56:50.480 is it's not like for him now i didn't used to i used to be like i'm a what a culture leader like a

00:56:56.120 cult is like you don't let people leave you're trying to fuck everybody like a cult's a thing and i'm

00:57:01.260 nothing like that and then i'm like yeah what because they've externalized their identity so

00:57:05.740 much and dude one of the weinstein brett weinstein even admitted that to me he's like if that's all

00:57:10.500 true then what's the fucking point of my entire life i'm like i'm like what are you talking about

00:57:15.720 your life is all because i have that internal knowledge of like the soul and life and you know

00:57:21.620 that obstacles are a blessing and all this stuff so sometimes i have a hard time forgetting that other

00:57:27.420 people are like if i'm not this piece of paper on my wall who am i and that's what allison wonderland

00:57:33.060 is is who are you and then the accuser the devil is always trying to to get you to internalize an

00:57:39.660 identity that he's creating for you and and then jesus is the i am or it's like you are and then and

00:57:47.400 then that's yeah because i mean the lies around me are so stupid at this point that the people that

00:57:52.520 have known me a long time are like what the fuck because they'll just be like failed comedian cult

00:57:57.760 leader stole land jew gay i'm like it's the same shit every time i'm like dude i'm a six foot eight

00:58:06.560 blue-eyed uncircumcised dude on the adl hit list like if i'm a jew then they don't exist it's like

00:58:12.860 no i was literally my picture on the wall of the hollywood improv next to chris rocks like i've never

00:58:19.020 been a list but i was always super respected like that's all blatantly false and it's because

00:58:24.400 they can't just say yeah maybe dinosaurs aren't what they say they are like because their whole

00:58:29.760 childhood is about dinosaurs or moon landing where it's like but oh you're saying my grandfather's a

00:58:35.020 liar no no i'm not saying that i'm saying like how would you tilt up on the moon and have a phone call

00:58:43.180 and it's like oh so so you're you're secretly obsessed i'm like dude no because as a comedian

00:58:50.580 you just see things like kind of what they are it's like a natural paradox where it's like that's

00:58:55.720 why i'd be like a white nationalist named fuentes is super funny and they'd be like oh how dare you i'm

00:59:01.880 like dude it's obviously funny there's no way around that it's like the zach alfanakis uh

00:59:07.160 condescending illiterate where you go i've already told you i can't read yeah funny obviously that's

00:59:14.660 a paradox that's the definition of comedy you know a little gay guy named plant daysby you know

00:59:20.220 and i'm just like i don't like why are you guys freaking out and they're like this identity i need

00:59:25.780 like science you know the science being settled is a natural joke it can't be the whole point of

00:59:33.660 science is you always are questioning it like science might as well be called skepticism like

00:59:39.980 there is no way to do like a vote on the science it's the and that's when you get into inversion it

00:59:46.080 actually ultimately leads you down a more spiritual path because like i mean the the demon realm to me

00:59:52.260 is more objectively valid than than these fucking space people you know like i mean amy were talking

00:59:59.960 last night she had an experience on a la bus where she was like you know she was getting her masters at

01:00:06.660 uh usc and but she was kind of aimless and not having a path or an identity can be like a a spiritually

01:00:13.940 dangerous time and she said there was this like super beleaguered homeless dude on the bus

01:00:20.120 and he just wrote like amy on the chair and looked at her and goes like this yeah and i'm like yeah that's

01:00:27.080 like demon shit like there's no explanation that i that i can think of outside of like empty vessel

01:00:33.920 realm fear stuff you know and so i might come across like this this guy that doesn't believe in

01:00:40.940 anything but i i do though i think that like the unseen realm isn't viruses and fucking asteroids it's

01:00:47.420 like like you know the spirit realm which i think is is a lot more objectively uh verifiable

01:00:53.660 that's a lot of uh so you know you put us on to dr marzynski and we've talked to him a few times

01:00:59.960 since then and he's i think man and we talk often about like you know obviously our our audience is

01:01:08.480 well aware marzynski has come to the conclusion that like schizophrenia which he's dealt with pretty

01:01:12.780 intimately and his occupation is is actually a spiritual disposition it's like a an oppression by

01:01:17.760 something external to the individual and not uh a broken mind or audio auto audible or vision visual

01:01:26.400 hallucinations or like a chemical brain imbalance or any of that crap um that this is like an

01:01:31.720 intelligence a sentience it adheres to patterns and you know etc etc and one of the things that they do

01:01:37.260 is like this precognition right where like they have like a little inclination so so marzynski would

01:01:43.020 talk about how you know some of the patients that he had that were schizophrenic would tell him stories

01:01:48.080 his thing made me aware of where drugs were yeah it would just guide me to a place and i would lift up a

01:01:53.980 board or hit in a field and i would find like a dealer stash and um and i remember being on

01:02:00.940 a reddit that was like i'm schizophrenic ask me anything you know it was like a dude that was

01:02:06.120 schizophrenic and he's just you know uh sourcing questions and and one of the stories he was telling

01:02:12.120 that inspired other schizophrenics to chime in was about this pre-cognitive aspect of schizophrenia

01:02:17.980 where like these voices seem to have some sort of ability to do some short-term uh predictions

01:02:25.120 about like the very near future you know like little things that don't make sense until they happen

01:02:29.960 and one of them was like this guy's on a city bus and it's like it's funny it's like city bus just

01:02:34.620 seems to be a great place for stabbing a ukrainian woman stabbing a demon demons just demons in

01:02:40.260 general and this dude he's like sitting there and he's plagued with this this intrusive voice over

01:02:45.960 and over again like the man with the yellow shirt the man with the yellow shirt the man with the

01:02:49.020 yellow shirt and it's like just keeps happening to him until all of a sudden he pulls up to a stop

01:02:53.900 and on the bus a man with a yellow shirt comes on and sits directly next to him in the two-seater

01:02:58.920 he's in a two-seater so it's like the open seat next to him and now he's shoulder to shoulder with

01:03:02.400 the man in the yellow shirt and these schizophrenic people are in the comments and they're like dude

01:03:07.500 let me tell you when that happens to me and boom boom boom boom boom like this pattern just emerges

01:03:11.960 and there's this weird yeah like like precognition aspect so it is like it's an empty vessel thing

01:03:18.140 i think that's like one of the things it talks about like inviting the holy spirit in i think the way

01:03:23.520 we're made up like our constitution is human beings like you know we have this physical body

01:03:28.060 and we have a soul and we have a spirit but there's also like the way i kind of look at it is like

01:03:33.340 there's a there's a compartment within us that we're just that's just how we come right we have

01:03:39.540 like a void within us and we'll try to fill it with all kinds of things i think people chase

01:03:42.820 that for a long time filling it with all kinds of nonsense but it's a spiritual void and everybody

01:03:49.680 has it and you can actively ask for that spirit the holy spirit to fill you yeah and you go through

01:03:58.160 like ritual and ceremony which i'm very comfortable with because it's like if you look around this realm

01:04:01.860 is ran by ritual and ceremony they're doing things by candlelight they're invoking spirits they're

01:04:08.280 using geometry they're using chants and things like that and then they're being filled with some

01:04:12.260 spirit so it it doesn't strike me as odd that you would maybe go through like let's say like water

01:04:18.260 baptism or something like that and go through this ritual where it's a declaration in the spiritual

01:04:22.800 realm and you're asking this spirit the holy spirit to come and fill you because if you don't

01:04:27.860 then there is this void and you'll forever be kind of like casting things out trying to

01:04:33.280 jordan peterson clean up your room you might be alleviated for a while but even the bible says like

01:04:38.040 if you don't fill yourself with the holy spirit then these things will come back with like

01:04:42.020 sevenfold sevenfold demonic homies so you can cast them out for a time but they come back

01:04:47.380 it's like if you look into people who have like witch doctor experiences they're like oh yeah shaman

01:04:51.480 casted this thing out of me and i felt really good for a time well that's like and then it got worse

01:04:57.320 you're talking about also just on like a smaller level the emptiness of politics which is i i think

01:05:03.120 it's a big reason why i don't like uh i don't it's not that i don't like fuentes i don't i don't agree

01:05:10.040 with what he says is because he's leading like a whole generation of kids down this like weird

01:05:15.960 political path where there's just more emptiness it feels like a solution for them yeah yeah exactly

01:05:22.780 yeah it's just fast food and we're watching now him like gain promise which is like it's a conundrum

01:05:30.240 for me because i'm kind of like he should have never been canceled in the first place um that creates

01:05:36.060 what he is now but the irresponsibility of the movement or i don't even know if it's irresponsibility

01:05:41.420 or fed led or whatever you want to call it it's going the wrong way and it's it's got a lot of

01:05:45.980 it's got a lot of power with it it's got a lot of momentum and we're like the way i see it is uh

01:05:51.640 is it doesn't you know and for me it's all the pedo stuff and it's not people think i'm like

01:05:58.340 obsessed or like that i care this much i'm like i'm just doing what i think is my civic duty it's like

01:06:02.900 this guy's talking about how he wants to have sex with mary because she's 12 and he's always like

01:06:09.380 um you know wait i never heard about that dude like there's hours of i put together montages of

01:06:16.940 like i'm pretty sure the dude's like a full-blown ped and it's like well i've heard that he does like

01:06:22.280 uh cat boy furry stuff right or yeah yeah i don't really know fuentes like i don't want to talk about

01:06:27.700 hypnotism it's like so he ends a stream out when he was on cozy and it just starts playing gay porn

01:06:33.820 that that he's clearly watching and he blames it on the idf and people just bought it they're like

01:06:39.840 he's like yeah it's like are you serious swear to god dude it was like a a thing like he's like oh

01:06:45.780 yeah this idf group clearly did that and it's there's there's no chance in the heat of battle your

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01:07:15.780 he um like he talks about how kids are hot with destiny he's like no he's just pushing that thing

01:07:28.760 and so what i think is that the jews piss people off so much that people will overlook so much of

01:07:36.200 his heinous shit just because they're like but we got to stop this enemy that's why the whole

01:07:41.000 our enemy is not flesh and blood is so important because it's like such a trap to be like well we we have

01:07:47.900 to unify even if we don't understand these people because we have to stop the elites and it's like dude

01:07:53.460 it can always get way worse like this isn't the end of the road like i i got my whole hollywood thing

01:08:00.260 was i couldn't unsee the child stuff and i was very vocal about it and you know i was on a sitcom

01:08:07.060 the year before i was quote-unquote canceled it wasn't like i was on my way out i was like

01:08:11.720 if you don't stand up against child sexualization like you should just not be here like that's what's

01:08:18.180 the point of being alive and i've never seen it as bad as flentes like i've never seen like open

01:08:25.720 pedo stuff like the ali alexander stuff where he was soliciting nudes from flentes his audience like

01:08:31.860 15 year old guys and flentes was running cover for him and then defending like that behavior and i'm

01:08:38.500 like that's like fall you know like post rome collapse like that it doesn't really get too much worse

01:08:45.760 and so and then the whole like he was canceled like him being on the no-fly list for a year was

01:08:50.920 because he threatened to shoot uh a flight attendant with a gun you know it's not like him having his

01:08:56.840 funds briefly frozen was because like a french national who just shot himself in a hotel room

01:09:02.500 gave him 13 bitcoin like his funding is so weird that you know people are like where is this coming

01:09:09.420 from is it you know foreign nationals and all that and then he'll just always spin it and make it like

01:09:14.760 he's a victim like he was canceled at 18 it's like dude i was a janitor like what does he talk like

01:09:21.180 what what does he think he deserves you know and so yeah i think like and i think the whole quote

01:09:27.140 unquote movement is is like the hypnotism thing we're talking about where it's justification for

01:09:32.840 laziness where it's like i won't get married because women are all whores and bitches now that's

01:09:37.400 what he said on tucker you know he's like it's women's fault okay well then now you don't have to try

01:09:41.920 it all to be a good person it's like you can watch gay pornos and jack yourself silly and still be a

01:09:47.900 quote-unquote christian because of the jews you know it's the jews make you do it eats mcdonald's

01:09:52.820 you know all day long tells people not to eat healthy it's like well then that's that's like a cancerous

01:09:58.740 little tumor and for the people that are just like exhausted and i get it like gen z or whatever it's

01:10:05.340 like you're raised in this environment where they say you're bad because you're like a white male and

01:10:09.460 everything's inverted and it sucks and so finally you have someone tell the dildo that they can rest

01:10:14.620 and they're like yes but it's it's worse it's like and when you can see how unnaturally propped up he is

01:10:22.280 it's it's not you know it's like most likes on the internet aren't people supporting you it's saying

01:10:29.080 you agree with me it's almost like saying good good call i'm right it's narcissism and so that's what a

01:10:35.380 lot of people aren't actually supporting that dude like people that i see promoting them online

01:10:39.880 like they've texted me like way to take down that little homo you know so i'm like they just want to

01:10:45.320 align with power because they think it's power but there's no power in perception it's fake you know

01:10:50.380 and and then and when someone sees through it or they choose to not live like a scumbag like scumbags

01:10:56.020 aren't powerful you know like people that don't take authority people that don't try hard or work hard or

01:11:01.120 like suffer for like something good like they don't they're not a threat to anybody they're fucking

01:11:05.880 nothing they're like dust this is a it's it's going to be an interesting study as uh from from my from

01:11:15.800 my vantage point when i'm looking at nick nick seems to have realized the moment after charlie kirk's death

01:11:21.620 and he's playing he's playing ball a little bit better than he would have before and some of his

01:11:27.620 hardcore followers the ones that follow him no matter what like these you know you've run into

01:11:33.640 them online his latest thing where he's criticizing the guy with the nazi uniform no matter how you feel

01:11:38.440 about it he's like oh that's just cringe that's just whack he's like and some of his followers are

01:11:43.140 like i don't know and now they're like fighting amongst each other because they're like well dad said

01:11:50.100 one thing and we're always supposed to listen to dad but now dad is saying the other thing he has a

01:11:55.300 jewish best friend a jewish assistant he's uh yes yeah because he's just he doesn't and i explained

01:12:01.420 this to people seven years ago about this guy i'm like he doesn't believe in anything except power

01:12:06.840 acquisition so you know i saw that with alex stein alex stein was this hardcore truther and then

01:12:12.780 immediately when he's on blaze now that's all gone and now he's like using that to launch his next

01:12:17.400 thing and i'm like you know my wife will say that these people don't really exist my wife

01:12:22.580 yeah no but it's a good way to put it where it's like they're not like real people because they

01:12:28.380 don't they're always defined by the external like you can see you could see fuentes with tucker he's

01:12:33.560 like i mean these are my heroes you know he's talking about trump he's like this is my hero like

01:12:38.700 he's groveling you know he's like groveling before the king just so thirsty and he's talking about how

01:12:45.340 like and then and then you have the the people in denial where they're like oh no it's 40 chess he's like

01:12:50.520 saying all this good stuff about jews so that one day i'm like dude he only wants power because

01:12:56.540 talk about that emptiness you know that dude he's made in a laboratory he's an ivf little

01:13:00.720 fucking scumbag and i don't think he has a dick so when you're like a dickless ivf guy it's like

01:13:07.280 your whole life is just trying to fill a void that will never be filled i i will say something and

01:13:12.520 this might i don't know if this is going to sound like uh i'm not boisterous but i was telling

01:13:16.780 you about it recently and i i like the guy that i'm talking about but what happened here is nick

01:13:22.040 recognized the moment he got the tucker carlson thing and i'll probably get joe rogan and he's

01:13:27.180 he's smart well-spoken recognized the moment played the part and and i i think flawlessly i from the clips

01:13:34.880 that i've seen so he's gonna move through this space i was offered uh a long time ago elijah

01:13:41.580 shafer i like elijah oh yeah he invited me to he was like come and host the show he was out of

01:13:46.580 town or something like that he's like host my show and do this and i was like oh this is like a

01:13:50.600 fucking tryout for uh auditioning yeah yeah i'm auditioning so i just said okay thanks and i invited

01:13:57.020 the entire tower gang and we just like made it it was retarded but i was like i'm not gonna i didn't

01:14:02.320 want that but i kind of i was like i'm so glad that i didn't do the job that i was supposed to do

01:14:08.180 because i was clearly like tapped like here do this thing yeah and then maybe host and i was like

01:14:14.880 i don't i'm not interested in doing that type of thing and i didn't understand it as intimately

01:14:20.340 intimately at the time but i think that that's what it was and some people get that that like

01:14:24.960 you're never told you're never told specifically do this but there are the moments where they're like

01:14:31.600 let's see it's a very similar thing that happened with um with stew peters who i also like but i

01:14:38.560 had to be like i don't know what i'm what i'm doing here because we were going on we were getting

01:14:41.500 invited on stew peters show and again i like stew peters i like i like elijah but i'm just not going

01:14:46.500 to do the thing well i'm wondering about like what is my role that's like angelic schizophrenia where

01:14:51.260 it's like subtle we're just something kind of just nudged you like just be yourself and dude

01:14:56.020 it's i i it's not like a trust me bro but you guys know i've seen a lot of shit it's the right

01:15:03.120 move it's like they're those guys aren't getting like just support they're like they're only getting

01:15:09.680 support from the fake world and then and and they're and they're like over time it's just getting

01:15:14.100 whittled away like do you think anyone's ever fucking written nick fuente is like listen i disagree

01:15:19.640 with you but i feel like we can learn from each other and that's why i watch no no no it's like

01:15:24.540 it's like junky shit it's just like it's just like it's human farming dude and it's like you

01:15:30.240 don't want to live that way i know you guys like you guys would not be like because they would say

01:15:35.000 like oh we'd prefer if you didn't talk about like the book of enoch you know it's a little

01:15:38.860 and it would just start like that and then it would just keep going until you're just like

01:15:42.820 hey everybody and then it's like fucking insane for me personally there was two people with

01:15:49.080 good examples oh and you were one of them the other one was frank uh quite frankly and

01:15:53.840 specifically it was the fan base so the bears and the franklies i look at them and i'm like

01:15:58.100 yo these people are good people like these are solid people these are wholesome people these are like

01:16:02.540 sharp dudes and uh and they're they all just feel good and there was a time i was doing like

01:16:07.600 timeline cleanse and you know i started getting kind of notice for you know like the nigger loop or

01:16:13.860 whatever whatever hey hey well i mean that's what it was called and uh and people

01:16:18.520 anyway go on it is you're gonna break that spell and what that was was just like how like black

01:16:23.200 people will get into a fight and they'll say the same word over and over again like what's up

01:16:25.820 bitch what's up bitch what's up bitch and it was like an observation or an organic observation but

01:16:30.120 it became like kind of a meme and and then i'm making appearances on stew peter's thing i'm in the

01:16:34.560 jew documentary and all this stuff and like i start becoming like i start garnering these people

01:16:40.540 that are like yeah man black people are terrible totally man it's the jews and i'm like

01:16:45.100 no wait like i don't want i don't like you like there's there's a core group of of fans of this

01:16:51.060 show who i look at them and i really like them and i'm like that these guys are cool they get it

01:16:55.420 but then there's these other guys that are popping up and they're like yeah dude you're my

01:16:59.400 you're my race warrior and i'm like no no no no and it's like yeah yeah i feel like michael

01:17:03.900 jordan in uh space gym where they're like they they have him in you know in the cartoon when he's

01:17:08.120 on the mountain and they're like shoot the free throws like say the n-word and i'm like i won't i

01:17:11.820 just won't do it i'm not gonna do it and the thing that really gets me too is like when i look at these

01:17:14.800 people and i'm like wait you think that i'm aligning with you but like if you really really

01:17:19.140 get down to the nitty-gritty i'm not white enough for you so like when you really become full of

01:17:23.700 hatred and you really think that you can externalize all your problems to like some other people group

01:17:28.100 and they're the the reason it sucks and you don't want to take accountability you will eventually

01:17:32.880 look to me and you'll be like you're a couple of shades too brown and some of them were already

01:17:36.380 doing that and i'm like no dude i don't these aren't the people that i like i think that they

01:17:40.960 want someone a little brown so that they're not in because these are like total losers so it's like

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01:18:11.120 like look at someone like me like 6'8 blue-eyed like they don't want that they want a fuentes

01:18:21.240 you know someone that's from the streets of miam you know it's like because then it's like oh yeah

01:18:28.600 you're gonna say all this shit but i'm not gonna feel like you're whiter and more aryan than me you

01:18:33.480 know because they're insecure as fuck they're like if you externalize all your shit then you don't want

01:18:39.040 a leader that they're jealous of leaders like they they that's why they like little gimps because they

01:18:45.340 like that they want to feel superior they're just fucking losers man and yeah the bears are awesome

01:18:49.500 like when i did my festival this year it dawned on me there wasn't one person i didn't want to like

01:18:54.660 hang with and talk to you know like that's that's non-existent in the entertainment world like most people

01:19:01.260 want to get the hell away from their quote-unquote fans because they view them as like cattle it's

01:19:05.460 like you know they're a demographic they serve and they come and they buy the merch and you know and

01:19:10.420 they're all getting the little spell craft like steven crowder it's like buy the jesus little tight

01:19:14.980 shorts and and um you're going to heaven with a mansion and you're gay and ignoring your fucking

01:19:21.080 grandkids because you're a boomer on fucking life support you know it's like just give me the money

01:19:25.280 and that's it it's like the sale of indulgences like that's what luther was talking about so it's like

01:19:29.540 who did the first blog how funny is it that luther was like a reddit guy

01:19:33.780 95 theses he's like well i think i just think that's kind of funny

01:19:39.260 i well how do you how do you deal with this uh with with the bears as you scale because you're

01:19:46.560 at a much larger scale than we are um but that's one of your things like one of your topics that i

01:19:53.220 find the most fascinating where you're you're breaking down the deterioration of an idea or a

01:19:58.280 movement as it gets bigger and the idea for the thing is to get right that's what you want you

01:20:03.380 want to talk to more people but it gets diluted because you're just one guy um so what do you

01:20:09.400 have you have you put any thoughts with yeah i just doing like it i've thought i thought a lot

01:20:15.400 about i mean sometimes i i'd get bummed but it wasn't because i want fame or money i'm like

01:20:19.720 if i'm not accessible on youtube or one of these main platforms like is it just a slow drip out you know

01:20:25.720 i've thought that and been like fuck and then fortunately like it's like the community's so

01:20:32.620 strong that they can just rally and be like give me all their perspectives and write letters and

01:20:37.040 stuff and what i've learned is the scale is what it's supposed to be and that that gives me a lot

01:20:43.760 of peace where it's like it's just whatever it's supposed to be like if it's supposed to be bigger i

01:20:47.780 mean in the in the bible it doesn't say like the road to heaven is super wide you know it's like

01:20:52.980 whatever it is it is and i and if you just think about quality for the people in your community

01:20:58.580 and you just always serve them i there is a natural growth to it but it's like word of mouth or like

01:21:04.180 you know someone springs up and does clips because he's really into it like right now i got this dude

01:21:08.780 aquila bear who's just like really pumped about doing clips and getting people to check out the

01:21:12.780 stream and and it's like it's just like actually perfect and sometimes i have that i we talked about

01:21:19.980 that at bohemian grove like the competitive athlete in you and stuff like that and i have

01:21:24.460 that too where it's like you almost you can't really accept perfect you're almost like but but

01:21:30.500 i gotta like tweak it and and push this thing and do this thing and you're almost like seeking chaos in

01:21:35.360 a way but if you really stop and think about it like there's there's nowhere you'd rather be than

01:21:41.420 just like doing your thing for the people who appreciate you and you can support a family on that like

01:21:46.920 that's like the dream you know yeah there's i mean there's a there is a point of diminishing

01:21:54.000 returns i think i reached it and then had to step back and recover from it because like you'll do

01:21:58.940 something to a point where you're trying to grow this thing and you max out and then i gotta like

01:22:04.180 step away for a little bit i'm getting tired i'm like should i even be doing this thing we've spoken

01:22:08.560 to tony merkel about it and i think he's gone the opposite route of what guys like us are doing where

01:22:14.700 it's like his community's gotten so big where he's kind of like just hands off and i'm like that's not

01:22:19.460 just hands off he shut himself off from it in a big way like isn't that his kind of declaration he's

01:22:23.520 like can't do community yeah he's yeah he he's like i can't do it at all and i'm just like well then

01:22:28.300 what's the point of what are you what are you doing here like you're just now we're just like gathering

01:22:32.980 audiences and i'm not saying he's he's bad or anything but it's just like it's an interesting

01:22:37.260 question it's an interesting question as as you grow because that's what we're trying to do like

01:22:41.720 i think the question is like real too i i can see dude wizard shit is fascinating like how many

01:22:47.380 these guys they see these huge numbers and there's no actual contact it's like tim pool remember when

01:22:54.000 he did a live event it was like eight fat girls like there's no audience that was not real there's

01:22:59.200 like they don't actually have audiences some of these people and then other people have i remember the

01:23:05.220 biggest podcast i ever did way bigger than rogan was the impractical jokers and no one even thinks

01:23:10.660 about it it's like they sell out stadiums and it's not even like people they're like on true tv

01:23:17.780 you know it's like you don't even think about that in the heat of battle your squad relies on you

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01:23:44.960 because it's not marketed like that you know these and i think i can see it with the fuentes where

01:23:56.280 it's like fuentes is marketed like he's the leader of like all the youth and i'm like it's just weird

01:24:02.020 how i've never actually seen that outside of like rumble numbers you know what i mean if he tried

01:24:06.960 to throw a live event like if it was just fuentes he would say i'm not going to do it because i'm

01:24:10.200 going to get shot because he's already canceled he canceled it and i guarantee it was because there

01:24:15.500 was no numbers like it's like wait did he cancel it and he said it was dangerous no they said he got

01:24:20.660 canceled and then kept the money too it was just shady yeah and dude that's what that was the last

01:24:25.260 that was when i realized the dude was full of shit because he followed me on twitter he followed like 300

01:24:29.140 people so i know he saw it and i wrote him this long thing about how to like buy his own piece of

01:24:35.240 land i'm like if it's if tickets are 400 bucks you pull it together 5 000 people you can like if you

01:24:41.340 have that no that's two million dollars then you have a place where you can't be canceled i'm like

01:24:46.340 recommending like having no debt because with that you have to get insurance and they can jack the

01:24:50.100 premiums like i know all about this shit and no response and no even like no one even wanted to hear

01:24:57.800 it and then immediately people are like oh no one cares about your cult or like your land scam i'm

01:25:03.940 like no no i'm on my fourth festival like it can't be shut down because you own it and then it's

01:25:09.740 community driven and then i saw him say that he was losing all this money on cozy tv and i'm like

01:25:14.840 yeah i know that it's expensive that's why i charge for ladle you guys know it's like you have to pay for

01:25:19.420 the the back end but if you're i still make money on it it's like i don't think he really has

01:25:25.280 supporters it's like so much of this is smoke and mirrors so if someone's like wants to be the wizard

01:25:30.340 of oz and they're like i'm not going to read comments i'm not going to talk to the fans i'm

01:25:34.600 going to be behind i'm going to be in my glory you know behind the curtain and then they open the

01:25:40.000 curtain and there's fucking nobody there you know yeah i don't need a million people i what i need is

01:25:48.000 like people who get it and and people who i think are um at least like being honest and not

01:25:53.900 because it's i think you draw certain conclusions when you're being honest and and for example like

01:25:58.200 hating entire people groups it's one thing to like joke about and everything but it's another

01:26:01.140 thing to mobilize and be like it's all the jews or it's all the blacks if you're doing that i'm

01:26:05.380 like you're not being intellectually honest because you would come to much more reasonable conclusions

01:26:10.260 than that and i don't want you so i don't need like a million people i don't need like nick fuentes

01:26:14.600 numbers but when you get to it like when you get to a million people then do you have to become

01:26:18.920 the wizard that's a good question that's what i was saying about access no you don't have to become

01:26:24.100 the wizard you can just keep scaling it's just like there's really no there's nothing stopping

01:26:31.100 you outside of like uh wanting something that didn't naturally occur and then you become the

01:26:36.980 wizard where you where you put on a persona to get a new demographic and that always backfires it's

01:26:41.720 like it always hollows out the authenticity of it like i thought rogan had way more power and

01:26:47.080 influence in like 2015 than he does now and people are like oh 200 million dollars he's crushing it i'm

01:26:53.260 like i remember like a lot of dudes that i knew and respected and myself included would be like all

01:26:59.400 about listening to rogan i don't know anybody now like he's in the he's in the cultural zeitgeist of

01:27:05.440 clips and oh did you hear he's part of this thing and he had this guy on but nobody is like they're

01:27:10.620 almost like using him for like access to a guest or something nobody's like into you know like they

01:27:17.240 don't like a story now like you guys's story is a great story it's like a it's a it's a it's a

01:27:23.800 authentic and and good story and that's how things just spread organically you know i i used to listen

01:27:30.220 to him um for a long time and then i i kind of stopped because so i was big into rogan early because

01:27:36.680 he was like touching on conspiracies i was i was an early adopter somebody put him on my radar

01:27:40.620 it's like late 2009 so i was i was just 19 years old and i started to listen to him and i was like

01:27:46.060 oh this dude's talking like somewhat about these conspiracies yeah totally slowly but surely he kind

01:27:50.700 of like moved away from that and then i still found like there was some some educational things

01:27:55.180 like i will credit rogan for i didn't have like any kind of structure in my life or anything like

01:27:59.520 that he was the first dude that i ever listened to that made it sound appealing to implement

01:28:04.900 discipline into your own life instead of like you know just moving through life like i was because

01:28:09.400 i used to be homeless and everything so i had like no structure and then you know i i enjoyed this dude

01:28:15.060 but one thing leads to another and it just felt like you said like hollowed out and so i kind of faded

01:28:21.640 away and then like 2019 hit and when they started raising the alarms you know the vid was on the horizon

01:28:28.660 and what's going on i felt like this dude was was so off the mark that i couldn't waste any time

01:28:35.920 listening to him anymore and i had to like do my own research and yeah and then from that yeah and

01:28:41.140 from that point forward i stopped listening to him and now and now i look at him and yeah i guess he's

01:28:44.720 the biggest podcast in the world but i don't know what that means i mean i still bump into people that

01:28:48.840 are number 11 in guam no not guam shout out to rickson kekos talk about your podcast and him like i think

01:28:55.220 he brought me up recently and one guy told me you guys have brought me up recently and like five guys

01:29:01.840 will tell me yeah like yeah like that's you know like those little things and about you not have

01:29:08.260 being educated and shit it's like that's indentured servitude like they just don't wizard spell shit

01:29:12.960 it's like you're buying someone that's a hundred thousand dollars in debt it's bondage so that they

01:29:18.240 can't leave the job that's the whole point of a college education you put a fucking square in your

01:29:21.920 head and you go like this it's stupid it's saying i'm in a hundred thousand dollars in debt so that

01:29:27.080 means you can hire me and i won't leave when fucking you know shit is bad and so you're actually

01:29:32.980 more free from your background which is why this world is run by a wizard you know dude this is what

01:29:39.100 this is what i brought it up because i'm realizing uh quickly now like we we had a doctor call us

01:29:44.620 called me yesterday and he's like basically he came on the show and he's like in his location

01:29:49.920 there have been over 10 people that come to see him now and they're like oh that's awesome

01:29:54.860 because that's so cool because of the show and i'm just like what the fuck is going on

01:29:59.200 um and and now i'm i'm like i'm realizing like we're like we could see the numbers before like

01:30:04.640 look at these numbers and they mean nothing sometimes rumble numbers sometimes they mean

01:30:08.360 half of what they know that means but when they're actually in real life and they're reaching out i'm like

01:30:13.600 oh my god and then i realize also what what i think these people want is access they want access

01:30:20.200 to us is what we're talking about they enjoy it they resonate with and i'm like i don't know

01:30:24.140 they want community yeah but i don't know if i could offer all that like well that's why you have

01:30:28.780 them i'm learning yeah like i've never i don't have people in my house i'm like a hermit you know

01:30:33.580 you just like you can just be like have uh just have meetups and just just keep an eye out for

01:30:39.680 gammas you know keep keep an eye out for like someone leading meetups that starts getting nuts

01:30:44.320 but it's just like you guys go do like one festival a year that's what i do and just we have

01:30:50.520 just bear meetups where you got the indianapolis crew and different crews and they just get together

01:30:54.500 and do stuff because if people are serious about going quote unquote against the jews but they never

01:31:00.160 talk about getting out of debt having children getting healthy they're not really they're just like

01:31:05.380 they're eating mcdonald's and whacking off it's like it's nonsense so you don't have to really

01:31:10.260 like it should it's like permaculture like that dude that we're talking about before it's like a food

01:31:14.900 forest you shouldn't feel like you're expelling your energy it should be like supportive so like you

01:31:20.280 don't have to be anything for these people you just can be what they say is like a tent post where it's

01:31:25.900 like they can all just kind of rally around and be like oh yeah i like that show too which basically

01:31:30.740 is signaling like i can think for myself you know stuff like that and then they just do their own

01:31:35.560 shit and you don't have to do it you know we have people that like show up you don't have to do it

01:31:41.600 no i mean that's huge though i love that we're in this coffee shop and like every day that we walk in

01:31:45.800 there's another person who's like you know enjoys the show and is just another guy that gets it and

01:31:51.220 he's hanging out he's like reading a bible he's drinking a coffee we'll chop it up and it's like real

01:31:55.400 people are actually coming here it's kind of amazing to me because all we're really doing and

01:32:00.700 owen i think you're doing like a lot of the same shit is like owen's been doing it before us and yeah

01:32:05.460 but what is the root of what he's doing it's almost like um that seems gay is that really true

01:32:11.020 let's let's look at this and that's really it like that's the whole thing like this sounds gay

01:32:15.220 this sounds a little retarded is this true because they're saying this is true let's look at it

01:32:19.040 and like i'm not saying i know what the answer is i'm not saying any of that crap i'm just like

01:32:22.680 that sounds like bullshit maybe this is what's going on maybe this is what's going on let's have

01:32:27.320 a look at it because it kind of looks like this is what's going on and that's just like the heart

01:32:30.540 of it you know in in a lot of ways and then like you know slowly but surely we came to like jesus

01:32:35.860 christ as being this really central important component um but but i i think even that's still

01:32:41.680 at its root is you come to that conclusion because you go like what what everybody's saying

01:32:45.980 like the general consensus sounds kind of gay and i i don't think that that's true does that sound

01:32:49.460 true to you guys maybe we should look at it and that's it so when people go like oh owen's doing

01:32:54.040 a cult it's like it's like the opposite it's literally just seems to be doing a lot of like

01:32:58.800 yeah yeah because there's no doctrine there's no thing that you can't deviate from in what you're

01:33:09.360 telling people really you're like mocking things that are obviously stupid on the surface right and

01:33:16.520 then you know it's just kind of you're taken aback by the fact that so many people believe in this

01:33:21.160 thing and so you know it's like hey let's talk about this let's mock the parts that are mockable

01:33:25.640 that deserve mockery uh and let's talk about what maybe actually is going on and that's it yeah no it's

01:33:31.820 that classic satanic inversion of accuse what you are you know like what i'm doing is the opposite of

01:33:38.320 a cult like people get mad that i'm not a cult leader they're like so what's the answer i'm like

01:33:43.040 that i don't know like i'm trying to figure that out you know and they're like i'm like i have faith

01:33:48.400 in and this and that but like it's i i'm not gonna call it a fact it's faith and and it's like since i

01:33:55.080 won't give them that relief of like it's the blacks you know like they'll they'll see my wikipedia and

01:34:01.720 come to me and think like i'm the guy that's gonna give them that relief of like in the heat of battle

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01:34:26.880 overclocking win the tech search power up at lenovo.com the blacks are the reason and i'm like

01:34:38.820 that's not the truth though and then and then they call me a cult leader when a cult all a cult does is

01:34:44.260 like give you this firm nonsense thing that allows you to not have to think ever again it's like a way

01:34:51.560 to save uh mental calories and i don't do that ever yeah yeah we i mean i guess i guess we try to keep it

01:34:59.840 as open as possible too i don't know if that's a a cop out on my part but like i'm just kind of here

01:35:05.480 to like listen and then say what i think whatever people follow up like what you're describing is like

01:35:11.120 normal human behavior it's just like we're in a world where all the influencers are so motivated by

01:35:16.360 hidden shit that it seems like what we're doing is so strange like what you you just gave me credit for

01:35:22.600 is literally human nature where it's just like is that real what do you guys think of this yeah it's

01:35:28.940 like that's literally how we're made but now we're we're inundated by so many people that that they act

01:35:36.200 like they they know the thing and everyone has to act this way it's because they're being funded by

01:35:40.980 people that no one can see but whereas we're funded by the people that listen to us so we're going to

01:35:46.100 act human and helpful and they're not and that's why it seems like we've just discovered this thing

01:35:52.560 it's almost like if porn goes full circle and it's like oh this this fetish it's like all about like

01:35:58.540 marriage and pregnancy you know it's like oh this is so like naughty and taboo it's like imagine just

01:36:08.380 like getting a chick pregnant and like only her it's just full circle like now we're these rebels that

01:36:14.660 are just like yeah i like listening sometimes talking other times and just wondering what is

01:36:19.560 true it's like that's that's our nature yeah dude uh i think i'm sorry i'm getting like i'm still like

01:36:28.820 caught up on this this idea of the wizard that that you you're talking how many layers there are

01:36:34.980 and how many layers i like we are sort of like removed from it in a way where it doesn't even

01:36:43.060 oh my god it doesn't even really make sense anymore um when i'm when i'm looking at it from the outside

01:36:50.420 looking in i don't even know if what i'm saying makes sense because i'm just like what's that i'm

01:36:56.080 trying to explain i was peeing i didn't i know i'm trying to explain the idea of uh looking at

01:37:02.780 looking at the the trickery from the outside because if you're going to write about this

01:37:07.060 yeah to people who don't understand from the outside oh that's hard like how would you

01:37:12.540 how do you even begin to explain it i feel like you could only speak to somebody about it if they

01:37:17.740 have an inclination that it is bullshit because a lot of people picture of being indoctrinated into

01:37:22.900 like this fear is your perception is is the book aimed at bears is it aimed at people that

01:37:28.560 are you talking to people that yeah yeah the way i handle that is is you frame it in the micro

01:37:34.820 you frame it in their personal life like like you know that feeling when someone talks in a way where

01:37:40.080 they're manipulating you you know and then and then from there you can fractal it out where i'm not

01:37:44.880 talking secret societies and shit i'm talking about like when someone does authoritative speech

01:37:50.300 uh to get power and you kind of know it where it's like um like how long have you been so sensitive

01:37:57.700 you know it's like the assumption where it puts you in a false binary where any way you answer

01:38:03.560 you're accepting their worldview that's a wizard so it's like um and so i'll that's similar owen to

01:38:10.100 a like a good like you ever been walking through somewhere and all of a sudden you get captured by

01:38:14.180 like a pretty skilled salesman and it's like no matter how you try to tell this guy like you're

01:38:19.080 not interested you're getting walked down this path and the next thing you know like they're trying

01:38:22.540 to get you to sign off on paperwork and it's like some people are really good at just being

01:38:26.580 like no but then other people like that yeah it's like you want to round up for the kids

01:38:31.380 uh like you go to the grocery store hey do you want to round up for the kids i say uh do you want

01:38:36.100 to round down for my kids you know oh that's a good one i like that yeah yeah it's that that's the

01:38:41.460 wizard battle every day is not with like the world bank it's with people in your life that are doing

01:38:47.500 manipulations and it's like and how do you uh and how do you how do you deal with that with like humor

01:38:53.400 and with uh knowing who you are and not having to seek external validation and all these things

01:39:00.080 but it's it's everywhere and so that that's where you relate when people think something may not be

01:39:05.720 right a lot of times people might not a lot of people don't have the time to look into our mountains

01:39:11.560 trees you know like because i have all this time to do that but they they see the the lies in their

01:39:18.260 immediate reality and so it's like how people are being manipulated it's it's honestly like

01:39:24.460 partially a a handbook on dealing with narcissists you know it's like where someone's definition of

01:39:30.980 reality is whatever they want it to be and then you see it in the big picture and then you see it in

01:39:36.000 the spiritual realm and then you realize that these truths just like you know a river bank or a river

01:39:41.860 or like a nerve system it's like all a fractal in the heat of battle your squad relies on you

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01:40:20.100 in the very small is true in the very large yeah and like how a wizard deals with it there's a chapter

01:40:26.580 called once they know you know where it's like because my whole life has been like this even as a

01:40:32.460 kid i remember dealing with a really great way of approaching it because it's very

01:40:37.360 did you lose me hello hello hello oh sorry you said there's a there's a chapter called

01:40:49.500 when they know when they i think it's called when they know you can see them because that's a major

01:40:55.800 thing that happens and then it and then it's like uh ad hominems like they they attack your character

01:41:01.980 they accuse you of the opposite whisper campaigns but it like can it can backfire really bad for them too

01:41:08.220 if they if you don't get like they're trying to get you emotional unstable um and if you if you hold the

01:41:16.440 line it like falls away but if not it's like a pretty consistent pattern of behavior it's like

01:41:22.180 um and once they know you can see them for what they are everything changes because the wizard is always

01:41:30.200 hiding behind the curtain it's like once they see behind the curtain that he's this little man

01:41:34.220 um there's no going back and they know that and that's why people can like me can be so exiled

01:41:40.520 because like everybody in that whole inverted pyramid knows i can see what they're doing

01:41:46.620 and and then they just like amy would say that i could go to uh i could be around people that don't

01:41:53.420 even know who i am or anything and within a few minutes it's like all the snakes and lizards just start

01:41:58.140 like acting weird like there's almost there's almost like a vibe i have where if someone's

01:42:05.560 hiding something nefarious they just start getting weird around me they start like looking around and

01:42:10.980 like maybe i could have been a cop in another life you know i'm just like i'll just look at someone be

01:42:15.500 like what do you mean by that they're like uh i gotta go like they can just tell that i'm like

01:42:20.260 but for real though i don't i'm not gonna go along with the thing you know

01:42:24.120 yeah that's a really great way of um but you're asking you're probably asking them uncomfortable

01:42:29.960 questions you do that that's all that i do yeah yeah yourself too though just how you look back

01:42:38.300 they know they can tell people can just tell you know yeah so yeah people tell me that they're like

01:42:43.480 like you're like this you're like that i'm like i don't feel like that i feel like uh i don't know

01:42:48.400 they're like oh when you walk in it it's like you're like we have two different things you and i

01:42:52.120 because you you're you have a curiosity that asks like i perceive the person's bullshit as well as

01:42:58.540 you perceive it but i i immediately determine it's not my job at all to deal with this person to

01:43:04.460 expose their crap but and and you don't look at it that way either i would say because the energy that

01:43:08.900 you approach a situation with is like uh so for example we went to suppress fest and you know we're

01:43:13.960 what did i do that i don't even remember it was so funny so so this guy um walks up to me and i've

01:43:20.120 got like tattoos or whatever and he's just like hey man nice ink and like i that never happens and

01:43:25.300 i look at it and i go oh yeah it's just crap that i got on my body like it's not something that i'm

01:43:29.200 like super proud of it's not something that i dislike either it's just like i don't talk about

01:43:33.440 my tattoos with people but this guy comes up to me and i can see he's got tattoos so he's fishing

01:43:37.080 i didn't know what he was fishing for though what he was actually fishing for was for me to just

01:43:43.060 finish saying my thing so that he can insert his thing and what it was is he lifts his glasses up

01:43:48.060 and he's got an all black eyeball yeah and then he's also got this whole slash down his eye like a

01:43:56.480 like a scar down his eye later on i figured out i was like oh this dude put a fake scar on his eye

01:44:02.940 that's weird but so i go whoa man like i don't want to talk about it with you but you know you're

01:44:09.460 showing me your eyeball now i go that's crazy and that's where i leave it but because it's not

01:44:14.360 you just looked at him and you went uh why'd you do that yeah and that's the thing that really

01:44:20.980 freaks people out is not even being mad just being curious like why'd you do that yeah yeah

01:44:26.400 and guess what you still see he didn't have an answer though he was just like oh i don't know

01:44:31.700 you know it was weird too because i don't know why you present this thing to me but i go like oh my

01:44:36.260 god how'd the scar happen and then he's like i don't want to talk about it i'm like what and then

01:44:41.240 he goes they got my tongue too and he sticks his tongue out he's got a forked tongue and i'm so

01:44:45.000 stupid that like later on i put together like oh this dude did like a scarification thing he went

01:44:49.440 to a shop and got that put on him but he's like he wasn't prepared i guess he thought like i was

01:44:55.440 gonna say like oh that's cool or something like that or whatever but when i asked him how it happened

01:45:00.440 he actually seemed like he was not prepared for that sort of thing and when you asked he didn't

01:45:04.940 want to talk to me yeah when you said why'd you do that he was like not prepared for that sort

01:45:09.980 of a question so that's that's the thing that you have like i don't have that i go don't care

01:45:14.260 actually not interested but you are interested but you're interested in a more philosophical thing

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01:45:45.300 like why did you do that like you don't even know what's going to set people off like i

01:45:54.500 wouldn't even think that that's a weird question i'd be like so what made you do that

01:45:58.340 and they'd be like who am i you know they like their whole identity fractures and so what i would

01:46:04.960 do is uh i started trying to be like pumped about shit that people are doing and it didn't even help

01:46:10.940 like in that situation i'd be like oh dude this guy loves halloween man tell everybody how much you

01:46:16.260 like like i'd try to make it sound cool but it'd be even more condescending yeah yeah well you can't

01:46:22.160 you can't hide it i don't know man you can't hide it there's no point in hiding it i'd be like

01:46:26.260 top says that i don't like like that's intense i'd probably just be like that's intense that might

01:46:32.600 be what he's looking for he's like yeah that's it yeah i guess but like in top says that i don't like

01:46:36.740 uh confrontation it's not that i don't like confrontation i i've had a life full of that

01:46:41.580 i just don't think it's like i don't feel the compulsion and thank god some people do i'm not one

01:46:48.300 of them to like start dragging somebody's shit out into the light and when i see like guys like you

01:46:54.880 owen or guys like you top like you do a lot of that you you grab a thing and you start dragging

01:46:58.660 it out into the light like what do you mean by that like if you're gonna say this shit or be like

01:47:03.880 this in real life or online i'm gonna say what explain yourself it's important though because

01:47:08.440 we're talking about like a nick for them like it's literally i like do this to help people in my head

01:47:14.180 i'm like oh dude this is this guy really needs to talk about this like he's fucked you know it's like

01:47:19.620 but in their head they're like oh everyone sees me and then they like slither and then they like

01:47:24.180 try and get you kicked off paypal it's like and dude the people like that you do this it's why you

01:47:29.380 have support because like dude do you ever have those talks with like someone close to you and it's

01:47:35.380 intense but then after it's like everything's better see no top does that you've told me stories

01:47:41.360 i'm a piece of shit i don't do that i go not my job to fix you i've got my own shit that i need to

01:47:46.440 fix you're wearing denim like denim is like it could be the denim i think it lowers my frequency

01:47:50.700 the conversation that i've had with him and he's like no no that's gonna lead to physical

01:47:54.140 confrontation i go no not that i'm just saying i've i've been subjected to a lot of physical

01:47:58.000 confrontation growing up like i've seen horrifying crap my thing is i i keep looking at myself i'm

01:48:03.000 like i got my own shit to fix not responsible for for fixing your shit oh i think uh we actually

01:48:08.620 got lost there for a second no can you hear us oh yeah yeah i gotcha he's taking a long sip

01:48:13.700 you just yeah he okay that's that's my thing is like every time i look to somebody else's thing

01:48:19.260 i'm like i know i have character flaws as soon as i start doing this to somebody else how long is it

01:48:25.140 until they hold a mirror up to me and i have to take you know so i just go it's none of my business

01:48:30.000 i've got my own shit to do it's not about having flaws it's about whether or not you won't like

01:48:34.440 acknowledge what you are like if that guy was like yeah man i just really thought it looked

01:48:40.560 fucking cool i'd be like nice like i wouldn't even be like like judgy i'd be judgy like why

01:48:47.060 why'd you do that if he's like man i fucking love dungeons and dragons i know it's a little gay but

01:48:52.700 sometimes it like fests like this it's kind of funny i don't know i go back and forth i'd be like

01:48:58.220 cool like i wouldn't be like no how dare you i just feel like what a what a what an intense choice

01:49:05.900 yeah i'd be like i would love to meet i love to meet people like that like if he made that decision

01:49:11.020 and stuck by it and that was his thing i'd be like there are people like that i think that that's

01:49:16.240 cool yeah totally i know that was tons of tats and he's like i'm fucking so pissed i did this i have

01:49:22.000 tats all over my body i'm like i i hold no judgment you know yeah i actually respect that i'm like

01:49:29.500 yeah i feel like a lot of people think that they just don't say it so good for you

01:49:33.300 oh and i want to i want to ask you something uh because i i want to also want to respect your

01:49:37.820 time here we're coming up on two hours don't forget we have one final question very important oh yeah

01:49:41.420 yeah but uh but cool as you uh like we're in the stage where the wizard has sort of like revealed

01:49:48.660 himself yeah in a way yeah yeah and so so we're all looking at him he's got his trench coat open his

01:49:55.120 wieners hanging out even the normal people are looking at the wizard and i but they don't quite know

01:49:59.280 what to make of it they i don't think they can accurately call him a wizard yet but they're looking

01:50:03.940 at him like who the fuck is that guy yeah um as he reveals himself um do you think that like we're

01:50:11.140 in like a time of danger like is this like when you know an animal is caged or cornered it's a good

01:50:16.500 question uh should we be worried about like the physical ramifications i mean like on the heels of

01:50:21.160 the charlie kirk thing which is i don't even know if that pertains but like how does a wizard

01:50:25.680 react how does a wizard fizzle out throughout history does he go out kicking and screaming or

01:50:31.900 the wizard has to function on perception so the worst place you can be is around people doing

01:50:39.980 wizardry so that's why being open about this shit is actually like a huge defense because yeah i mean

01:50:47.260 when the wizard's cornered shit gets fucking nutty you know but like so what are they capable of the

01:50:53.780 the wizard is only capable of people that have chosen to be under their spell so the more you are

01:50:58.980 yourself the more you're not surrounded by that like take charlie kirk he was surrounded by vipers

01:51:04.720 you know so it's like he i mean he was given like a billion dollars from the people that like fund

01:51:10.760 war you know and so if he's talking shit in a group chat i mean that's like being in the fucking

01:51:15.920 that's literally like being in a cartel in mexico times a thousand it's like that's those guys are

01:51:22.000 super dangerous but it's usually like it's always like the most gang violence is internal and with

01:51:28.820 other gangs it's like not you know matt was a sorry to cut you off but matt was upset with me

01:51:34.740 when we we were live when the assassination happened oh yeah yeah and the first thing i said

01:51:39.760 it's the same thing with the guy with the tattoo where i'm looking i'm like why'd you do that we see

01:51:44.660 charlie kirk get assassinated and we're like i don't know what to think about it but then i go

01:51:48.740 hey man this guy was surrounded by the pretty much the same thing i mean it's bad timing i will say

01:51:56.340 it's bad time because it was right after and i was like is there ever bad timing for the truth though

01:51:59.760 yeah yeah there is we're not going to hear it though i think it's all good oh that's a good point

01:52:05.520 if your objective is more people hearing it yeah there is timing but i was just like hey it's something

01:52:11.760 that i learned being around here like because now you're talking to people who are awake in you know

01:52:16.480 or in this area but still there are levels and i was just like he was taking money from a lot of

01:52:21.340 these people and he was surrounded by this and how much did he know and how much did he uh how much

01:52:27.660 did he agree to did he consent to i don't know but then this happens and it's like man it's horrific

01:52:34.900 and they're like just died his body's not even cold yet and then you're given his eulogy like this and

01:52:39.820 i was like i'm just being realistic because they're gonna deify him and the realities is like he was

01:52:45.680 surrounded by vipers and i think he knew it and then at some point he wanted out and it's like

01:52:51.280 you just don't get out you don't get out like that i mean he got out and like i think he got

01:52:57.280 out in a way that speaks well for his character you know and i i think he's probably doing good

01:53:03.000 you know because that's like when you're in that position like how do you get out it's like

01:53:07.760 like in my position it was like they took back the the name and prestige they gave me which is fine

01:53:13.600 it's like all debts are repaid and i wasn't aware of what was happening so i think that goes a long

01:53:18.820 way um but the position those guys are in is is pretty dark you know and so the wizard gets paranoid

01:53:26.340 and starts like in eating where the their biggest threat is around them like especially when you're

01:53:33.360 one of these empty vessel types that's doing like if you became the nigger guy where it's like

01:53:37.140 finally someone's willing to admit that they are dumb you know like those guys around you

01:53:43.020 are your biggest threat because they want power so power is like seeking power and so the the biggest

01:53:50.380 i mean the gulags in uh in russia were filled with communists they were filled with like those guys

01:53:56.240 they eat their way up it's like the joker in the dark knight where each clown kills the next layer you

01:54:01.260 know so the best place to be is just yourself doing a service for other people that they appreciate

01:54:08.700 because you're not in the game you know so that's what i see i think and in the end of the day the

01:54:14.080 wizard doesn't have power any more than like a vacuum salesman if you don't want to buy like the

01:54:19.500 federal reserve people still want it they want liquid money with no effort you know uh blockbuster had

01:54:25.840 tons of jews and billions of dollars surrounded by it and people are like yeah we don't want to have

01:54:30.860 to go all the way and it was gone in like a week because it's like our will is the whole engine in

01:54:37.160 the realm it's like where we like what we focus on what we want what we do what we say who we are

01:54:44.420 and so in the end of the day the wizard is always just trying to get us to accept something that is

01:54:49.400 not true and the you know the most protection you have is to not do that you know it's there's no way

01:54:56.500 to to reason with them like you can't play ball to fight the big wars because the more you play ball

01:55:02.920 the more you're inside the very thing where then there's no way you can fight that war the best way

01:55:08.720 to fight the war is just encourage people to not want that war you know talking to you dave smith

01:55:16.060 i reject the promise how's that dude doing i think he's doing good he's just out there rejecting

01:55:22.060 i just think he's yeah i think he's a little too close to it like like like you're describing

01:55:25.760 super close to it i mean it's like him debating at that charlie kirk event and then charlie kirk

01:55:31.320 gets fucking whacked right after it's like that's intense bro yeah i texted him and i'm like yo dude

01:55:37.440 i i had told him way before when he was thinking about running for president and he probably was like

01:55:41.840 this guy's a dumb spick and he's right but i was like hey man you got kids you got a beautiful

01:55:45.580 family you got like great uh comedy career like presidency and everyone else imagine being like

01:55:53.220 i'm gonna be the head of the blood so i can shut it down like meanwhile you have like a beautiful

01:55:58.040 life and you're like i think this is what i'm gonna do but even so like i guess a small step back is

01:56:02.540 just like like political punditry and i'm like even that's too close like too close i think it's

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01:56:34.020 yeah i mean if it's your thing i know i'm biased it's a little day it's a little i like i like dave

01:56:45.700 smith man i worry about it because i'm like i see how close like i like that last time i saw him in

01:56:51.120 person which was so long ago but like i don't like my perception of him and i don't know how much of

01:56:56.440 that is real or not yeah i mean like last time i was in person with him i liked him but like

01:57:03.880 i don't know ever since there's i think i don't like him now very much but i hope he's cool you

01:57:10.600 know i i'm just frustrated with the guy i tried to talk to him about god and he wouldn't it was a

01:57:14.200 non-starter nah he's he's a solid he's a good dude it's just uh i think you know online and when you

01:57:19.180 don't get to like have meaningful dialogue with somebody face to face yeah you're gonna get a little

01:57:24.420 cloud it gets weird a little bit of a cloud guy too though he's like all about these like big shows

01:57:29.180 and he doesn't tell the cool stories that aren't associated with the fucking big lights you know

01:57:34.020 and i always think that's gay it's like you might as well just get on your knees and blow a guy at

01:57:38.120 that point well he uses a lot of like debate language too and i find that real gay wizard i don't

01:57:43.200 like yeah a little fucking black guy i thought actually kind of won in the debate i know that

01:57:48.600 i see i don't do that on twitter anymore like especially when there's someone i kind of think is okay

01:57:54.060 like i thought that the black guy did a better job i just don't want to all it's like you i don't

01:58:00.300 want to always fight everything so i'm just like you know when we're an hour and a half into a patreon

01:58:04.960 episode i'll discuss but like i'm not just going to constantly talk shit but that calm black dude i

01:58:10.680 thought did a pretty good job like like uh david brings something up and he would actually know the

01:58:15.700 thing about it and then david be like oh okay i'm just like dude you know well uh

01:58:24.040 um remember that black guy what'd you guys think of the black guy thing when i i was hoping that

01:58:28.300 you would know the black guy i watched a little bit of it i couldn't get past the black guy i don't

01:58:32.040 even know then billy carson no no his name is coleman yeah he's like not like the officer fucking

01:58:39.780 chill not that guy i'm talking about this guy was legitimately really smart and i was like fuck man

01:58:46.700 like that was that guy did a good job against dave and dave was like well i saw the memo with

01:58:51.340 general wesley clark but then it turned out he didn't see the memo and that they just do

01:58:56.220 fucking memos all the time and it's just like just a bunch of facts where i'm like huh interesting

01:59:01.280 and i used to you know i i knew general like i fucking hung out all night drinking and playing

01:59:07.580 beatles with general wesley clark and his family like it's like it's funny how these people like i used

01:59:12.340 to be in that world so intensely but i was the joker clown that i think i kind of left without having to

01:59:18.340 play the game you know that's nice that's the way to be so that that thing that he had with with dave

01:59:24.180 smith where he's dave smith yeah there was a memo with wesley clark he's like have you seen it

01:59:28.000 well no and it's like a rumored memo but i think the fact still stands it was like if the memo said

01:59:33.500 that you were going to invade eight countries in this many years and then you did it oh yeah it was

01:59:37.960 like it was a little bit of like the the dude was very calm and dave was flustered because now

01:59:42.600 he has to defend conspiracy almost and and he doesn't like to delve in that realm it's like

01:59:49.680 beneath him thing too though in in debate once you get flustered like oh yeah i got you you got got

01:59:55.980 you're convincing the audience but it's it's it's also just very gay my whole thing to be like well

02:00:01.120 the wars are to prop up the dollar that need in order to get your 401k so like how deep into idaho are

02:00:09.020 we willing to take this thing and that's where i got where i'm like what is israel like what are the

02:00:13.860 you know like what are the basic what they call the the first principles like when you think about

02:00:19.520 like aristotle and fucking debate or whatever the first principles are like well what is israel is it

02:00:25.660 a place is it a people or is it like a narrative engine that allows america to bomb anybody that wants

02:00:31.720 to compete with the dollar because without global uh dominance with the dollar you can't just keep

02:00:38.240 pumping yourself with cheap chinese shit and fucking watch the stock market go up every year

02:00:43.320 which is unnatural in nature that's only cancer so it's like are you ready to take the fucking heat

02:00:48.840 where you're growing uh pears or not because if not it's like you're cutting off a branch you're

02:00:53.540 standing on you know well then it'd be that's you're like now playing the game of politics instead

02:00:58.800 of doing anything in your actual life right it's like oh we give seven billion dollars a year to israel

02:01:03.540 it's like what is a dollar and that's when they call me a cult leader i'm like my wife we homeschool

02:01:08.800 they want a sticker they want a fucking sticker and they'll do stuff for any sticker if we like show

02:01:13.940 that it has value now imagine if one of my kids mugged me and took the gold stars that's dollars they

02:01:21.000 don't have any value outside of the narrative and the perception so what does israel do israel gets all

02:01:27.080 the fucking uh neocon boomer types to be like no we're not killing the gold standard guy in iraq or

02:01:34.560 like the guy in fucking north africa that's teaching everyone how to read and get in primary water

02:01:39.060 we're setting the the place for jesus to return well the good news is my fucking google account is going

02:01:46.340 up too though but that's a side note and that's all it is so when i see these people screaming i'm like

02:01:50.920 are you willing to accept that your house will won't be worth 1.2 million it'll be worth 300 000 is that

02:01:56.440 good enough they're like dude that's why covid was the great revealer watch everything just go down

02:02:01.760 a little and it's like the dildo flying through the air it's like give me peace give me peace and

02:02:07.500 then the hypnotism is like that and now i think we're at the stage of hypnotism where they're going

02:02:12.060 to want to actually take out some jays with fuentes you know where it's like oh no the guy at the deli

02:02:17.020 he's your problem because he's wearing a little hat it's like no the problem is your actions you fucking

02:02:22.440 blame women for not getting married you little fucking pud if everybody just detached for a

02:02:27.760 little bit too you would realize like your problems still exist and then they're like pretty much

02:02:32.900 because of you well you know what i'm saying like if you turn off the internet if you turn off the tv

02:02:36.180 and you get rid of this perception that it's the jews or it's you know the state of israel it's this or

02:02:40.400 that or the other thing turn it all off sit in your house without any sort of you know influence from

02:02:45.480 the internet or whatever for like a month or so and you'll find that the things that like you know ailed you

02:02:50.000 maybe they've been alleviated to some degree that might just because you're spending so much time

02:02:52.960 on the internet and your psychology is all twisted but if you had real problems you would find they

02:02:57.060 still exist and they're probably because you've made a bunch of stupid fucking decisions well yeah

02:03:01.500 i mean it just happened with me and my wife little private my wife my wife but yeah it's like you know

02:03:06.620 kids are giving us a hard time and we're like kids and i was like you know now we're fighting and

02:03:10.860 then i go hold on a second like we're not doing what we're supposed to do you're doing this and i'm doing

02:03:16.680 this and it's like that sucks because now we actually have to fix it we can't just blame

02:03:21.780 i don't know dude honestly i think probably when it comes to that specific thing i i think it's a

02:03:26.780 bad example because i think that one is the jews oh probably probably is the jews well i think that's

02:03:31.760 why i'm into child labor just hear me out and then we'll end the planes no a lot of kids act in ways

02:03:37.300 because they they aren't given enough tasks and and like work dude i got a five-year-old making winter

02:03:43.840 hats oh how dare you when they're not like that they just cause they can cause problems they they

02:03:49.640 need fucking jobs and they need to like expel energy outside and that's that's usually the problem

02:03:55.540 with it with child behavior i i want to ask you one uh final question for a profit i mean that doesn't

02:04:02.440 make you a jew anyway go on i was i was hoping that you were going to sell to the it's all profit

02:04:07.400 um uh this is the question owen that we've begun to ask at the end of every episode and this isn't

02:04:13.420 necessarily pertaining to our conversation here although if you want to toss it in there too that's

02:04:17.720 fine but in everything that you're doing in all of your pursuits and and you know you in particular

02:04:23.480 the life that you've carved out for yourself are you having fun yes yes yeah like that's yeah like

02:04:31.220 i'm having a fucking blast to the point where like when i stop to think about i can't believe i get to

02:04:36.780 do this for a life it's like almost feels like a reward we've asked one dude that one time and he

02:04:44.520 said no he looked at us and he was like fun and that guy was like entrenched in like you know what

02:04:50.920 the cia is doing and and i got the documents and all this shit and and i'm like i like that guy a lot

02:04:56.540 uh but i was like oh is it not having no no no no no i think he and carol's having fun i think he is

02:05:03.020 you don't have a mustache like that and not have fun if you're not having fun and you have a mustache

02:05:07.260 like i mean i feel like he's having fun with some dicks well i'm enjoying i think him and candace are

02:05:12.520 doing a good job because that that the fact they're actually covering something besides the obvious lie

02:05:18.100 i'm like i give them respect for that people are mad at candace for talking about like reptilians i'm

02:05:23.420 like that's fun can we talk about reptile people that's a nice that's a nice departure from you know

02:05:29.540 the state of israel i think it's and it's really a it's synonymous it's a redundancy but still

02:05:33.580 you know it's a lot of fun to talk about those kinds of crazy things i'm not mad at her for

02:05:37.720 talking i'm glad you're having fun though and like it does it looks a little scaly sometimes

02:05:42.500 it does look a little it just could be a moisturizer issue they need to you know give out the buck and

02:05:48.300 just buy oil of oy vey is to hide the skin of the lizard and that's why i'm quick

02:05:55.340 somebody needs to make oil of oy vey that's a banker oh and tell the people again where they

02:06:02.280 can find you so they can go and support you over there oil of oy vey.com you can become a chat

02:06:07.820 uh ladle.tv is uh nine dollars and eleven cents a month as you can see that's the um uh how to say

02:06:13.620 wizard and i also have all my why didn't they laughs on there over 2 000 uh the cartoons like

02:06:20.140 everything i've ever done pretty much it's like the the smithsonian and uh yeah and so i'm on

02:06:27.060 rumble i'm gonna do a stream today at uh what time 1 p.m pacific standard time and also unauthorized

02:06:33.320 dot tv and um courses dot owenbenjamin.com if you want to learn piano oh that's right i keep forgetting

02:06:41.040 i gotta i gotta get my kids on that very nice yeah it's family friendly too and it's like

02:06:45.120 like uh it's it it covers a lot of interesting shit about music because the vibratory aspect of

02:06:51.160 music is it gets intense it fractals up yes yes yeah that's a that's top don't get me started

02:06:56.700 don't get me started good i mean that's all i have you seen that dude jacob collier do the uh orchestra

02:07:02.700 where the or the the people become a choir have you ever seen that oh yeah dude no he walks up to

02:07:09.340 the edge of the stage and he starts like conducting the crowd yeah and it gets so awesome because

02:07:14.960 like that like the gregorian chants used to only do human voices because like the instrument would

02:07:21.060 set a tone versus like trying to figure out what the tone is and dude a whole mass of people just

02:07:27.020 naturally start finding the tone and it becomes insane it like gives me fucking goosebumps but anyway

02:07:32.760 very fast very fast like he starts running back and forth and he'll he'll control one side of the

02:07:38.140 crowd and they'll immediately adjust in real time up and down he's just up and down that's what the old

02:07:43.220 uh old music staffs used to be it would just be like up down it wasn't like all these notes

02:07:47.700 and people would just find it and it's just like it's really cool to think about that anyway well

02:07:53.840 thanks for having me guys i've been i've been here a while thank you owen it's always good talking to

02:07:58.740 you brother all right man thank you great talking to you guys uh great show until next time don't forget

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Nephilim Death Squad - November 05, 2025

Slaying The Wizard w⧸ Owen Benjamin

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