Nephilim Death Squad - [Straight Bible Showcase] Otis Fowler ｜ Home Church Discipleship

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00:01:57.800 Welcome to the Straight Bible Interview Sessions, session one.

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00:02:07.860 Welcome to the Straight Bible Interview Sessions, session one.

00:02:10.980 We got Otis Fowler IV in this episode.

00:02:14.560 Otis Fowler is a legit man of God that we've come to know in the coffee shop.

00:02:19.360 we meet a lot of people in the coffee shop are you good they like to talk cold dead doctrine

00:02:24.920 they like to argue they're like pet doctrines and stuff otis fowler is not that way he's definitely

00:02:30.260 a different kind of dude he came in the shop and he was always about his business he'd have the

00:02:34.380 headphones in and he would do like hours and hours of bible work and so he's a young guy and that's

00:02:42.220 very very like high level respect if you see a dude that's not just in there playing playtime

00:02:46.620 because a lot of times people will go to have bible studies if you will in the coffee shop and

00:02:51.640 it's just play time it just turns into gossip time and uh so the dude otis fowler is not like

00:02:57.080 that i just wanted to bring him on and interview him and have him tell a little bit about his life

00:03:00.260 so go ahead otis fowler the fourth tell us about yourself the dude you crack me up matt um grateful

00:03:07.800 to be here and excited for what the lord's gonna do um first and foremost jesus christ everything

00:03:13.520 He's got to be. He's got to be in the forefront of your lips everywhere you go. And man, I didn't

00:03:18.960 have that experience growing up. And it is in my own just failures and shortcomings that I've

00:03:25.780 really developed that love for Jesus over time. And, you know, reading the word even, you don't

00:03:31.960 just wake up one day and you love reading God's word. It's a muscle that you got to grow. And

00:03:37.740 man, I remember there's a lot of arrogance that I had whenever I was younger thinking like,

00:03:42.600 oh man i spent all these hours in the bible and i'm just awesome and in reality i didn't realize

00:03:48.900 that even spending time in the word is not something that we can do because it's from

00:03:53.960 heaven you know and um when did you start though so when when did you when did you really start

00:03:59.000 like were you raised in a christian home or when did you really get around the bible or even come

00:04:03.360 to terms with jesus man so i grew up in the church from nursery to 16 my dad was a deacon and my mom

00:04:10.680 she volunteered all over the church grew up in a southern baptist church and i was not welcome

00:04:15.920 there really yeah i mean wait this is in the panhandle yeah what town what town were you from

00:04:21.820 this is for walton so a lot of people know dustin florida yeah um it's about 30 minutes away from

00:04:27.480 dustin and that's where i went to church for 16 years from nursery to 16 what do you mean you

00:04:32.360 weren't welcome there you were a wild ass kid yeah no yeah i mean think about it you're you're

00:04:38.320 a kid and you're growing up and you're trying to figure out how the life how life works and 0.83

00:04:41.920 nobody's wanting to teach you they just want to shame you for it and i was like if this is how

00:04:46.520 the people of god treat me then god himself is going to hate me wait so what do you mean like

00:04:50.840 when you were a kid you were like acting up getting in trouble and so church people were

00:04:54.620 just like bothered by you and you were not like the model kid yeah man i was a hellion no way

00:04:59.520 i would have never guessed that man my my mom she like would iron my pants and she i would have like

00:05:05.560 a suit and i'd be an usher and i'd go there every sunday i would like play on my phone in the back

00:05:10.960 and like just play games i would like chase after girls and i would just fall asleep during church

00:05:16.160 like it was just not something that i would have never guessed that i would have never guessed dude

00:05:22.280 i just assumed at five you were like hard in the scripture and like going hard with grown-ups

00:05:26.260 that's awesome man so like till 16 you were just kind of like in the system that you didn't

00:05:31.180 necessarily vibe with or want to be a part of or yeah so when i got to 16 and i finally had like at

00:05:38.180 least some liberty in my life and i got a driver's license which actually i didn't even get my

00:05:42.020 driver's license till i was 17 so let's say 17 um i stopped going to church because i just i was

00:05:48.340 like if this is how it's going to be i don't want anything to do with this i didn't i knew all about

00:05:52.680 hell and not about grace and that's just what was preached at me that's a southern baptist thing

00:05:57.560 you're saying okay yeah it's really just like uh all truth no grace kind of thing well my

00:06:02.920 grandparents were southern baptist but i didn't know they never really explained stuff to me like

00:06:06.960 my grandpa was always reading the bible when i went there but like they never really explained

00:06:10.400 to me anything so i just that but that's kind of known as a southern baptist thing is it's a lot of

00:06:15.140 like hellfire and brimstone preaching and not grace that's kind of the stereotype of where it

00:06:19.140 comes from i'm not saying everybody's like that because there are some really there are just

00:06:22.920 great people being faithful to the gospel everywhere yeah so i can't say it's specifically

00:06:27.560 southern baptist at least the church that i was at it was really hard to at least get acclimated

00:06:32.900 to what they were trying to preach because i'm like dude i am just the worst yeah i'm just the

00:06:37.580 worst i like that and uh so when i got when i turned 17 i just fell into the world man

00:06:43.240 started living this really worldly lifestyle and we can fast forward to like whenever i'm 21 22

00:06:48.520 too. We can call it the apex of my sinful nature. Okay. So before we jump to 21, though, so you're

00:06:53.540 17, you're living in Fort Walton, you're driving around, you got your driver's license, you're

00:06:58.400 doing the stuff of the world. When you graduate high school, do you go away or do you stay in

00:07:02.460 your town? What do you do when you graduate high school? Well, when I graduated high school,

00:07:05.840 I started working at this company where I would teach people how to drive boats and I'd send them

00:07:11.100 out. And we lived in a fishing village. So like in Dustin, Florida, it's a harbor town. So

00:07:16.280 So there's just, you got the Gulf now, Gulf of America.

00:07:20.700 It was then Gulf of Mexico.

00:07:22.440 But whenever I was there, we would just teach people how to ride boats

00:07:28.160 because that's the only thing that you can do.

00:07:29.440 What, like pontoon boats?

00:07:30.020 Yeah, pontoon boats.

00:07:31.080 Carolina skiffs?

00:07:32.200 No, our primary one was the pontoons just because they're cheap.

00:07:37.100 And if you hit something, like it's easier to patch up and weld it

00:07:41.320 than it is to do fiberglass work.

00:07:42.780 going out scalloping on them or fishing on them or just day travel we had we had this thing called

00:07:48.300 crab island and it's this giant water island underwater island that's a sandbar and it's

00:07:54.140 pretty much our only like tourist attraction there that's fun to do unless you're going out

00:07:58.460 to bars and nightclubs and stuff like that but it is right next to the dustin bridge and it's

00:08:04.300 probably about three feet to four feet deep everyone goes out there they park their boats

00:08:08.300 out there and they party. That's it. So that was your job. So you were like right in the middle of

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00:12:44.000 And I did that for a couple of years and that I was making so much money because people were,

00:12:49.420 you know, whenever they come back, they're already drunk and they just,

00:12:52.460 I don't care how much money I'm handing you because I don't remember. 1.00

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00:13:02.380 Well, it wasn't, it wasn't, well, actually, yeah, that's probably why I stated that job was for the money.

00:13:07.200 no it sounds like a good time too it is man because you i mean you just get to go out there

00:13:12.240 you get to hang out with people who are on vacation you're in the sun all day you get to

00:13:15.040 drive boats you're right there on the water and so no college you're staying at the parents house

00:13:20.040 and doing that job yeah so um i did about a year and a half worth of college at a community college

00:13:27.000 northwest florida state college i didn't went there for my associates i'm not a college guy

00:13:31.320 by any means i just i it's not for me it's a struggle math is foreign yeah and i don't really

00:13:40.680 uh gravitate towards that even whenever like i was going through um emt and fire school later

00:13:46.720 on down the line or seminary or anything like that like i never really was good when it came

00:13:50.640 to school even in high school middle school and elementary school fun fact for you i actually

00:13:54.540 whenever i was a kid man speaking of how rough i was whenever i was a kid i actually went to

00:14:01.300 this christian academy and i was so misbehaved that they they separated me from all the other

00:14:08.980 kids they put me in the middle of a square they put their desks in a square and they put me right

00:14:13.580 in the middle like it dude it was i was like a prisoner in a kindergarten school i'm like

00:14:18.020 because i'm writing my cursive words too close to each other i have to feel like i'm a prisoner

00:14:22.980 you were you were old enough to do cursive no okay yeah that curse it was rough dude

00:14:27.860 but no yeah i was living with my parents and then um i tried to go back to college i never really

00:14:35.900 gravitated towards that this is so different than what i thought this story was gonna be bro just

00:14:40.820 from like talking to you and knowing you and seeing how you carry yourself i i would have never guessed

00:14:44.900 that this was the story only by the blood okay so i love that so you're so you're doing the thing

00:14:50.160 you're doing the boat thing the party vibes are around the chicks are around the dudes are coming

00:14:55.100 back wasted with the big tips you're doing that until when like what changed well i um dropped

00:15:03.100 out of college i stopped showing up for school because i started getting friends that were like

00:15:06.920 let's go party and like i never had that lifestyle so i was like let's go do it and um so you were

00:15:12.100 raised in the church not being around the party and then the partying came to you and you were

00:15:15.840 like yeah yeah i was like these people accepted me they weren't gonna have fun with me i was like

00:15:19.340 this seems like it makes sense yeah so whenever i'm making all this money well now i'm starting

00:15:23.880 to travel a whole bunch with people who want to party um i would work all summer i'd work for like

00:15:28.280 nine months and take three months off and just travel the country and i would just go party in

00:15:32.620 texas california like you name it dude i was just going crazy man and it was just uh it was really

00:15:39.280 i was i was searching for something yeah and and i promise you god was not even a thought

00:15:43.820 yeah which breaks my heart considering he's my everything now it's funny you say it like that

00:15:48.100 Cause I remember like partying and being out late, even in like Ybor city or just like

00:15:54.020 different places, just partying and being out late night and just feeling like I'm just

00:15:57.760 looking for something that doesn't exist.

00:15:59.740 Right.

00:16:00.280 I just always remember feeling that way.

00:16:01.720 Yeah, man.

00:16:02.680 It's, it's real too.

00:16:03.900 Cause I mean, that's, that's just our vice.

00:16:05.480 I mean, especially whenever you get like, whenever you start drinking or something like

00:16:08.240 that, you feel like your mind expands and you're just like, there's more to life than

00:16:11.720 what I'm living.

00:16:12.600 Yeah.

00:16:12.940 Why is that?

00:16:13.560 It's because we're going past a barrier that our sobriety cannot like enter into.

00:16:17.920 because we're like no this is this is too real we don't even have an imagination anymore why

00:16:22.080 because society chokes that off yeah society does not allow kids to imagine anymore even toys today

00:16:27.920 they're not even made for kids they're made for adults yeah that's miserable they don't have an

00:16:32.240 imagination yeah and i mean a wild imagination is good sometimes and other times it's not so good

00:16:38.080 especially if you're on a show and you're supposed to be paying attention and you have like a wild

00:16:40.800 imagination and then all of a sudden you're not paying attention it's kind of bad but one of the

00:16:44.720 one of the toys that my kids have is uh like magic coloring where it just reveals the color

00:16:49.640 underneath so it takes out any kind of creativity they'd apply to color this black and white drawing

00:16:55.340 and that's exactly what otis is talking about yeah man another thing that sucked uh when our

00:16:59.480 kids were little i remember we got in a i don't want to say a fight but we were me and jess were

00:17:03.220 not uh on good terms when this situation happened the kids had the video so you could just watch

00:17:08.160 the video when you're driving and i was like no no no no they need to look out the window and

00:17:12.980 daydream they don't need to be like we're driving somewhere they don't need to have this thing

00:17:17.180 always telling them what to think and following the story they need to be daydreaming absolutely

00:17:21.180 and you're right it's i mean that was 20 years ago now it's just more and more and more of like

00:17:26.360 no imagination everything's like spoon-fed to you how to think what to think that's exactly

00:17:31.700 what the government wants yeah but you know it it really choked off my imagination and i was just

00:17:37.720 like uh at least my early church uh experience was like that my parents were great man they

00:17:43.960 modeled for it raised a child up in the way that she should go when he's older he won't depart from

00:17:47.240 it they didn't hate you and mad at you because you were kind of going astray i'll tell you

00:17:50.800 something that i really i'm just so grateful to my parents is they never judged me and even

00:17:58.920 whenever like i was man i started like vaping and and smoking like nicotine things uh whenever i was

00:18:05.340 like 15 because somebody gave it to me as a birthday present like older people that i was

00:18:09.180 hanging out with that accepted me and i thought i was so cool man i did and my parents found it

00:18:14.240 and they didn't even say anything really yeah man they just loved me and they did just love you bro

00:18:18.860 they just trusted god you think that like hey god's gonna work this out in his time i think

00:18:22.960 that's exactly i think that's exactly it i think they know based on the experiences that i had in

00:18:28.460 the church of like how much people hated me and just like yeah they would go to my parents and

00:18:33.100 like make me seem like i'm the worst person in the world and wait so you think your parents kind

00:18:37.680 of looked at the system and said man there's some faults in the system and it doesn't grab these

00:18:41.720 people like otis and what is he supposed to do man he has found freedom and smoking the vape and

00:18:47.380 having these friends and partying and they just loved you anyway yeah man i think my parents loved

00:18:53.040 me where i was at for the brokenness that i was carrying and then i think it was the the fullness

00:18:59.200 of their surrender is almost directly uh equated to the proportion i love jesus today wow they're

00:19:07.500 still alive today your mom and dad oh yeah they love the lord they do very much yeah they've been

00:19:12.300 believers longer than i've been alive so i've lived in a christian environment but whenever i moved out

00:19:17.400 of my parents house to go party and travel and do all this stuff i'm making a lot of money man

00:19:22.060 like i'm making almost 40 grand in just the summer and a lot of it's cash it's just party money it's

00:19:28.140 is party money like i didn't know anything about 401ks or roth iras i didn't know anything about

00:19:33.640 investment i definitely didn't even know what like um business investment is or just looking

00:19:38.760 forward for the future marriage was not even a vapor in my mind because i was like i didn't have

00:19:43.840 the commitment because i'm still trying to search for something that i can say yes yeah to fully

00:19:48.920 and it was just it was a lot of searching that i did and then when i started making all this money

00:19:53.960 I ended up getting my own place and it was really nice house.

00:19:57.120 And whenever I'm saying all this, I'm not saying it in a bragging way because I am I'll be the first to tell you that this was the most arrogant and just disrespectful version of myself.

00:20:05.560 Because I started living in this three quarter million dollar home in the heart of Dustin at 22 years old.

00:20:11.200 And I just went on this rampage.

00:20:13.540 And this is what I would call the apex of my sinful nature, Matt, is like this is what the world would look at.

00:20:18.840 That's the worst version of Otis.

00:20:20.500 Like this is, uh, just the part where, and it's, and it's ironically, not ironically,

00:20:25.540 but coincidentally, um, the part where Jesus and I met face to face.

00:20:30.840 No way.

00:20:31.380 We at, so at 22 quarter, three quarter million dollar home.

00:20:35.280 Yeah.

00:20:35.560 I'm living in this three quarter million dollar home.

00:20:37.520 I got a really nice job and it's, it's paying, it's paying the bills and I'm only paying

00:20:42.940 rent for, that's like $800.

00:20:45.060 dollars and i have the master bedroom in this house and i um it's got like an in-ground pool

00:20:51.620 in-ground hot tub and it's in the middle of dustin this is like the vacation populace of

00:20:56.580 the southeast region people come from across the world to go stay there so i'm like man this is this

00:21:01.560 is it i made it and then i uh started my own business it was a home improvement business

00:21:05.780 and i wanted to essentially we live in a really predominantly real estate driven area and i

00:21:12.120 wanted to provide services that would keep me in business for the long run so what i did was i

00:21:18.000 started this company after i left a construction company where i wanted to give facelifts to

00:21:22.420 people's homes so i could like hey you want to sell your house hire me i'll come make it look

00:21:26.200 presentable i get into your photography everything will be taken care of like what do you mean like

00:21:30.620 you were getting in there doing like paint landscape couple ceiling fans well it was it

00:21:34.700 was all focused on the outside so i never had to go into people's homes so my schedule was strictly

00:21:39.920 whenever i could create it that's great so was it did you do any beautification of the house you

00:21:45.300 just took pictures in such a way to make it look good oh yeah man i we transformed like backyards

00:21:49.820 and we wanted to get into flipping homes but we were doing like pressure washing landscaping

00:21:55.140 hardscaping turf like we wanted to get into all of that cool man and it just blew up it just blew

00:22:02.480 up and i if i wasn't egotistical and arrogant already i started getting like i was making like

00:22:08.320 $3,000 for two days worth of work. And I'm like, this is insane. This is, I would never have

00:22:13.560 thought I can make this much money yet alone. Whenever I went out on a whim to start my first

00:22:17.220 business, like this is insane. And I know like to some people, that's not a lot of money, but

00:22:21.120 the little old me and ministry, man, that's a lot of money. And I was just in such a money pit of

00:22:28.800 just like wanting to get to that life that the world says is you made it. And there was a group

00:22:33.940 of people who live down the street for me great people i love them to this day and i just saw the

00:22:39.960 life that they had man and i was like i want to be a part of that because they would just party

00:22:43.480 party celebrities yachts penthouses i was like i want to be a part of that and somehow i managed

00:22:49.540 to get into their friend group and i was doing all that stuff and that just left me more and more

00:22:54.040 empty dude i never would have guessed this was the story bro so that's 22 you're in this popular

00:22:59.860 group now yachts celebrities now you're vibing with everybody yep okay then what happens and so

00:23:06.380 this is whenever it all just goes south i uh i'm living in this in this house this is the same

00:23:12.660 environment um i start injecting myself with steroids because i was really vain and you're

00:23:18.280 on the juice i was on the juice bro just straight test the straight test and trend wow yeah man and

00:23:24.440 it was and it was killing me i realized it was killing me so i stopped taking it cold turkey

00:23:28.860 as a man you need tests and you're not supposed to do that you're supposed to wean off that stuff

00:23:33.020 i had no testosterone and i just got crippling depression i'm talking about like getting up to

00:23:37.180 go to the bathroom was a win wait wait wait okay so you're vibing you're on this party scene

00:23:42.140 you're on the juice you're jacked you're working out every day you're doing the business you're

00:23:46.220 making money you're on the yacht you're partying you're having a good time and then in the middle

00:23:50.460 of that you're like no i gotta stop i can't do the test anymore yeah that's whenever i started

00:23:55.500 to get this sense of morality what kind of drugs were you on it were you any drugs or yeah man i

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00:26:57.620 Since I was 15, I'd say I had a seven-year nicotine addiction.

00:27:02.860 I was addicted to marijuana and drinking and cocaine, and I was playing around with all of it.

00:27:07.180 Whoa.

00:27:07.840 Yeah, man.

00:27:08.400 And then got on the juice.

00:27:09.880 And got on the juice.

00:27:10.860 That's a wild mix.

00:27:11.840 Jess's uncle was like that.

00:27:12.940 I used to party with Jess's uncle, and it just kind of seemed like the steroid guys.

00:27:17.920 Steroids was kind of its thing, but maybe you weren't necessarily so hardcore into the drugs

00:27:21.940 if you were into steroids, and then vice versa.

00:27:23.820 Like, I was into drugs, but not steroids.

00:27:26.060 But her uncle was like, all of the above, dude.

00:27:28.540 Like, he was just going, like, we'd just be driving along, and I'd look over,

00:27:32.060 and he'd just be hitting himself in the thigh with the test.

00:27:34.660 I was like, this is wild.

00:27:35.940 But he loved the drugs, too.

00:27:37.060 So you were kind of that scene.

00:27:38.500 Yeah, man.

00:27:38.820 The weed, the coke, the drinking, the test.

00:27:41.320 Oh, yeah, man.

00:27:42.000 anything that i could do you know i was looking for like pleasure with women and just you know

00:27:46.960 whatever the world could offer me i was running after it so what was the thing that happened to

00:27:51.520 where you said i gotta i gotta quit cold turkey on the juice you know it was it was a subtle whisper

00:27:58.320 really yeah man i uh i don't know what happened because go figure i continue to party and just

00:28:05.040 have fun and not really care about anything and then my my sister starts to really decline in the

00:28:12.320 world she's older or younger she is nine years older than me and she started to decline and i

00:28:18.720 didn't really think anything of it and my parents are talking about like inheritance for like the

00:28:23.180 will and i didn't even think anything of it i'm just like who's nobody's dying what and um it's

00:28:29.900 just you and your sister then you just have the one sibling correct yeah it's just me it's just

00:28:34.080 me and my sister my mom my dad so the mom and the dad start talking about the will and you're like

00:28:38.020 what do you what well my sister was really struggling man because i guess um the guy that

00:28:43.500 she was married to at the time um they he started selling drugs and he got my sister involved and it

00:28:49.720 was just a mess because he got arrested which is his third offense which is now a felony and then

00:28:54.460 she got arrested but my parents bailed her out because that was her first offense so it was just

00:28:58.240 a misdemeanor and i don't know how the legal system works but um my parents bailed her out

00:29:03.620 and then she started like really declining because i think she just lost hope man she lived in the

00:29:08.740 area too yeah no she so she was raised in the church too yep yeah we still have letters of

00:29:14.900 her saying how much she loves jesus she had any drawings and stuff like that she's no longer with

00:29:19.220 us no sorry bro no it's okay man you know god redeems and restores everything that the enemy

00:29:24.580 meant for evil wait so at that time the sister was declining and that's kind of what provoked

00:29:29.460 you to be like what am i doing i think i was in such a low pit and i already like stopped i didn't

00:29:34.760 already didn't have any tests so when my sister passed away it was kind of like those things where

00:29:40.160 i'm like i'm gonna end it i can't do this anymore man no yeah so what did she pass from like what

00:29:46.180 was the ultimate overdose she just od'd i think it was heroin yeah oh sorry man you know god's good

00:29:52.640 and i can say that with a healed heart amen and dude that honestly whenever um so i'm living in

00:29:58.980 this house i'll go back a little bit and give you some context i'm living in this house and

00:30:03.520 the the police were breaking in at 3 a.m people were like my uh people who were living there uh

00:30:11.000 their significant others were passing like they passed from overdose they came back to life at

00:30:16.680 your house you're just renting the master bedroom 300 the other people live in there because the guy

00:30:21.340 who owned the house he's like you got you can bring whoever you want so i invited some friends

00:30:24.900 and people were dying from overdose people doing cocaine off my counter people were getting it on

00:30:28.600 all over the house and police are breaking in at 3 a.m. in the morning and like dude like this is

00:30:34.840 the environment that I'm living in partying going crazy just living my best life addicted to all 1.00

00:30:39.320 these drugs addicted to women and just being a complete like idiot and man in that moment it was 0.98

00:30:46.320 around my birthday it was actually around this time about five years ago dude I uh was just in 0.99

00:30:51.400 my bedroom and I don't know what happened I call it my blank check prayer I didn't expect to get

00:30:56.240 anything in return but man i got a lot more than i bargained for when i prayed okay so so at 22

00:31:01.140 five years ago so you're you're only 27 that's right okay so five years ago at 22 the sister

00:31:08.060 passed at that time uh and that provoked this prayer or no she hadn't she hadn't passed yet

00:31:14.840 she was getting there yeah her life was on a downward spiral yeah you're watching it and then

00:31:20.920 you finally are like god i've had enough yeah man it was just i was just kind of in this place where

00:31:25.680 like lord i'm emotionally numb i don't have anything me and my girlfriend at the time we

00:31:29.520 broke up she lived in ohio and i and i was just like i want to start this business so i came back

00:31:33.920 down here and i started it and blew up and i just start falling into that rabbit hole of what we've

00:31:38.240 been saying and i was just in my room man i was like god i can't do this anymore i don't know if

00:31:43.120 you're real i don't know if you care about me but i need you to do something because i just i can't

00:31:46.720 yeah i can't i threw my hands up and um i didn't nothing in that moment happened but it happened

00:31:52.480 been in my heart yeah and it was like in that moment i i i made sincere repentance and the lord

00:31:58.260 met me in that moment and i was just i was a broken individual and i didn't know what was

00:32:03.660 going to save me but i was so willing to grab onto anything that would listen yeah and um but

00:32:09.720 that brokenness and that inability to do anything in self i mean that is what it takes man that's

00:32:15.920 why some of us he has to break like that to get us to a place where we'll finally be like i can't

00:32:20.580 do this anymore. Well, that's actually what the, uh, in Matthew chapter five, which is blessed

00:32:24.240 for the, uh, the broken in spirit for they will be comforted. Yeah. That's what it actually is

00:32:29.020 referring to is like, dude, you can't, you don't have the strength to do this anymore. Yeah. And

00:32:34.880 you know, whenever I did that, I, um, nothing happened in the moment, but I remember one day

00:32:39.820 I was in my shower and I was just talking out loud, like childlike faith. I was like, Lord,

00:32:44.640 if you're real, like, I want you to answer this, not prove it to me, but maybe I was there who

00:32:48.560 knows and um the bible app went off it was like some random time like 7 37 or something like that

00:32:54.620 and it answered my question directly and i went out into my uh into my room bro and like i'm

00:33:01.140 telling you like isaiah 6 like i had a moment with god where i stood in front of him and i

00:33:08.580 couldn't see anything but like dude my i had a spirit then my spirit came alive and i knew i was

00:33:12.980 standing before a holy god he knew everything about me he knew every word i had ever said he

00:33:17.240 know everything i had ever done in my life every thought meditation in my heart he knew it all and

00:33:22.140 he met me with grace he forgave me in that moment i could sense angelic beings flying all around bro

00:33:27.840 and in that moment i didn't have it's just like isaiah six yeah no exactly and and in that moment

00:33:33.880 all i could say was send me like that's what i want and dude i've been so on fire ever since then

00:33:40.780 and it's not even it was a gift it was a gift that was given to me man how did you unpack your life

00:33:45.540 at that point then if you're you're living in this house it's crazy you love drugs you're rent

00:33:51.460 you're you're living in the master bedroom people in the house are boning and odin and

00:33:55.780 cops are breaking in like how do you how did you unpack and step away from that life then yeah man

00:34:00.500 so i remember reading actually the first book of the bible that god led me to was job and let me

00:34:08.900 tell you man the sanctification process and the ripping me out of the world was hard amen it was a

00:34:13.540 abrupt stop and you know when you get the revelation that god's real you also get the

00:34:17.380 revelation that the enemy's real and he does want to steal kill and destroy everything about your

00:34:20.980 life and so whenever i came to the lord i went into this dark place in my room or in the darkest

00:34:27.460 place in my in my house i turned all the lights off because sensory deprivation does work like

00:34:31.540 it helps you focus on like that still small voice that god wants to communicate through the holy

00:34:35.940 spirit in and i was like lord i know that you said that if we go into our hidden place and we pray to

00:34:43.640 you in secret you will reward it in public and i'm just going to do something simple so you had

00:34:49.220 these scriptures in your heart just no i mean i was reading kind of time okay well dude it was

00:34:53.840 like in that moment whenever i stood before god he put his he put his word in my heart yeah like

00:34:58.220 i know what was truth but i didn't know like i couldn't quote it all i know what was truth because

00:35:03.520 i had the holy spirit who gave me discernment but it wasn't like i can recite the entire bible i

00:35:07.760 still can't even do that i still can't but there are there's a lot of scripture where i'm like

00:35:11.900 oh yeah that that tracks i know exactly where that's at or i think we're twisting something

00:35:16.400 here like you so you got alone with god sensory deprivation you're saying you turn all the lights

00:35:21.000 out no noise no seeing no nothing you get alone with god i went into my bathroom and i just shut

00:35:26.480 the door and i was like lord i want to know is my name written in the land's book of life

00:35:29.420 good question i was like i want to know because i didn't know the grace of god all i knew was the

00:35:33.980 the hell fire and brimstone and uh dude i like clear as day man and i didn't know what it meant

00:35:42.440 but i was just it just wrecked me it wrecked me i feel the spirit of god on me right now man like

00:35:47.300 it's just such a core pivotal moment of my life where i was just like god i just want to know like

00:35:53.820 are you going to be with me forever am i going to be with you forever and i heard the holy

00:35:59.300 spirit whispered romans 8 16 and i didn't know what that meant and i went to my bible and i opened

00:36:04.800 it up man and i just i just remember just weeping and romans 8 16 says that the holy spirit testifies

00:36:11.920 with our spirit that we are sons of god and that was just like yeah the spirit itself beareth

00:36:18.240 witness that our spirit that we are children of god that goes hard and it was just that's a thing

00:36:23.880 man like that's a thing that no doctrine no cold dead doctrine can teach you man you just know

00:36:28.960 you don't have to win the debate of whether god's real or christianity's right it's just do you know

00:36:33.880 god and here's here's the crazy truth and it's probably going to get some people upset but we

00:36:38.660 live in a culture today that's more comfortable calling out doctrine than they are sin true and

00:36:43.700 look man jesus came for the sick it's the sick who needs a doctor not the healthy yeah it's like

00:36:49.060 why are you drinking with tax collectors drunkards and sinners he's like because they're the ones who

00:36:52.540 need it and a lot of time wasted in the church arguing and i was like i wish more pastors would

00:36:57.940 be bold and just say like, I want the adulterer. I want the fornicator. I want the drunkard. I want 0.99

00:37:02.060 the addict. I want them all sitting in the front row. Like we need to make reservations for them, 0.85

00:37:05.460 not the like these visitation pastors. Those are the ones who respond to the gospel, man.

00:37:09.160 That's right. That's right. And it's because I think, you know, the ones that know that they

00:37:13.920 don't have the answers are the ones that are ultimately going to find it. And that's, that's

00:37:17.960 exactly how I met God. And whenever he gave me this verse, man, it just, it wrecked me. And I

00:37:22.960 just i just wept and i just couldn't stop telling people about jesus i told all my roommates i

00:37:28.720 remember i would come home and my roommates would leave the house when you got home yeah because i

00:37:33.860 would just want to talk about jesus i tell him about the work he's doing in my heart were you

00:37:37.320 still on dope or did you immediately stop you're still doing dope yeah that's like me too bro i

00:37:41.500 was like like when i came to know the lord i was still on drugs and still had this friend group

00:37:44.980 and same thing i'd break out a bible when i was super high and people would be pissed dude they

00:37:48.800 We'd be like, what are you doing?

00:37:50.380 I was like, I'm waiting on the Lord to save me.

00:37:52.640 Yeah.

00:37:53.220 But this is where like it all went south, man.

00:37:55.920 So like the next stuff that I tell you, this all happened within like two months, man.

00:38:00.320 And like I said, I got this super high moment with God, this verse that has carried me throughout life.

00:38:05.380 Yeah.

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00:40:37.300 Man, in these next two months,

00:40:39.180 it really would test the faith that i just inherited i didn't know what was going on

00:40:43.260 because i remember looking up on the internet it's like am i allowed to be mad at god which

00:40:47.260 i i can't justify my anger at god he's perfect and righteous so and what if you are and you tell 0.66

00:40:52.060 them you're in a lot better place than a pretender man absolutely absolutely and i and he's bigger

00:40:56.700 than our emotions so he's not scared to hear that stuff and um so in the next two months when and

00:41:02.140 i call it the beautification of what the what the gospel of jesus christ did for me i would end up

00:41:07.580 losing my sister my grandmother pretty much like a second dad to me my dog um i lost my niece to

00:41:12.460 child protection services when my sister passed away and she got relocated i ended up losing the

00:41:17.820 house i ended up losing the business i ended up losing all my friends i ended up losing all my

00:41:20.860 money and this is all like right after i get this huge revelation of the god of the universe i'm

00:41:25.420 like what is happening man and all of this is like it pushed me deeper into the pit of all of these

00:41:32.860 these substances that I'm trying to find a hole in my heart to fill. And nothing was working.

00:41:38.800 And all I could do, the only thing, dude, the only thing that brought me peace and comfort in that

00:41:42.820 time was scripture and prayer. That was the only thing I could do. And while I was like, because

00:41:48.440 I had this wineskin of 22 years that was empty, bone dry, because I wouldn't fill it with the

00:41:54.960 word of God. And whenever I finally like ran into a storm that I could not brace myself because I

00:42:01.760 built on the sand this is the only foundation that I could build my house on and it was the only

00:42:06.340 thing that it helped me because dude I was all of this was whenever I was taking juice and I and I

00:42:12.100 was already depressed so to go through all of that I was I was very suicidal man I was ready to take

00:42:18.180 my life and I just I couldn't do it anymore and in the midst of all of this I there are so many

00:42:25.120 times where I wanted to give up man and it is only by the grace of God it is only by the love that he

00:42:30.000 first loved me with it is only by his mercy that i'm even alive today and i i could not have gone

00:42:36.240 through that time without him um no all of my friends left i my roommates are already leaving

00:42:42.000 and i just i had no hope for the future i didn't know what the future held and all i wanted to do

00:42:47.840 was tell people about jesus well at the same time my life is falling apart and that's a strength

00:42:52.320 that the flesh cannot conjure that's something that only the holy spirit can do and that's when

00:42:56.400 when i became a born again believer it was in that moment whenever i stood before god and the

00:43:00.320 angel came it felt like an angel came and put the cold on my lips not literally but like that's what

00:43:04.080 it felt like and man i just i've been so on fire for god ever since and the cool thing about

00:43:11.440 everything that i just everything i just said is that whenever i went through all that man 0.86

00:43:17.200 all of the uh pornography the masturbation the nicotine the marijuana the cocaine the drinking 0.99

00:43:24.240 the and i was a chronic liar steal i was stealing like i was the i was the worst man all of those 0.99

00:43:30.420 addictions that i just named off i stopped and i haven't touched in almost over five years you 0.59

00:43:34.680 think you think when you look back on that do you think was the chastisement of god that that did

00:43:39.040 like he like you were being chastised during that time but it was a chastisement that had to happen

00:43:43.580 to break you away from all of those things that like he couldn't have just left you in a happy

00:43:47.680 place because it wouldn't have cut you off from all those things and so he had to get a little

00:43:51.280 aggressive with it and hurtful but he had to cut it out of you well you know he's he's a loving

00:43:55.040 father and he reproves those that he loves you know and i think in that moment

00:43:59.620 like i was living in a dump and he's a king and if he's going to come and dwell in the in my mud

00:44:07.500 he's going to make it a suitable dwelling for a king and i do agree i do agree with what you're

00:44:14.780 saying i think that there was a lot of brokenness that had to happen in my heart because it was just

00:44:20.920 so hard and puffed up and prideful and wanted nothing to do with God because all I knew that

00:44:26.340 he was, all I knew of him was he wants to send me to hell. That's all I knew. I didn't know about

00:44:31.280 the grace of God. And man, I remember looking up like is vaping a sin like this. I was just like,

00:44:39.060 what do I need to get rid of? Cause I was like, I want to clean myself up because I don't want

00:44:42.260 to go to hell. And the thing is like, you know, everybody knows that cliche. You don't clean

00:44:46.320 yourself up to get into a shower well jesus is living water man and no sin that we have is too

00:44:53.180 big for god's grace and in that moment it wasn't the sin that i was living in it was the heart

00:44:58.240 that said yes to him whenever i whenever he called my name yeah i just look at a story like that and

00:45:02.340 i just think like he loved you enough to chastise you like that yeah you know what i'm saying i

00:45:07.140 think there's a lot of people that are living like that and he's more or less like i'm not going down

00:45:10.940 the street to spank my neighbor's kids i really think that man and with some of us he does that

00:45:15.700 Cause I remember going through something similar and losing everything and

00:45:19.060 people being in like Bible studies and people like rebuking Satan and going

00:45:23.440 into the second heaven and kicking Satan off his throne because of what he's

00:45:26.660 doing to me.

00:45:27.200 I remember just sitting in on these things and I just remember like talking

00:45:30.540 to God about it later.

00:45:31.520 And he's like,

00:45:32.120 you think I let Satan do this to you?

00:45:34.400 Like I did this.

00:45:35.800 And I was like,

00:45:36.600 I know you did.

00:45:37.540 I knew this was you all along.

00:45:38.880 Like you had to break me from all this stuff.

00:45:41.300 Yeah.

00:45:41.500 And I remember even being like,

00:45:42.920 well,

00:45:43.000 couldn't you just talk to me about this?

00:45:44.600 I'm being embarrassed of him like, no, not you.

00:45:48.820 No, not you.

00:45:49.700 Like maybe somebody else I could talk to.

00:45:51.340 Not you don't learn like that.

00:45:52.740 So some of us, I just relate to your story, bro.

00:45:55.220 It was like, he loved you or me enough to take us through this, dude, which he can't

00:46:00.440 do that to everybody, bro.

00:46:01.680 He just straight broke you.

00:46:03.140 Yeah, man.

00:46:03.520 That's exactly what happened.

00:46:05.120 It was just a breaking off of the old mindset.

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00:48:39.640 He's like, this can't go with you into the new.

00:48:41.640 Yeah, I love that.

00:48:42.680 You just read the kingdom of heaven suffers violence

00:48:44.860 and the violent take it by force.

00:48:46.180 I'm like, that's it, dude.

00:48:47.240 Like when the Holy Spirit comes and dwells in a man,

00:48:50.240 it's an incredibly destructive, violent process.

00:48:54.400 He's like looking at it like,

00:48:55.900 it's like, oh man, I love what you've done with the place.

00:48:57.840 We're just going to rip these drapes down.

00:48:59.280 We're going to punch out this window.

00:49:00.960 No, this stuff can't stay.

00:49:01.940 So that was like the downturn.

00:49:03.480 that was like just it just was coming down everything was being ripped from you all your

00:49:07.540 friends your living situation did you just move back in with the parents yeah so i had to move

00:49:12.120 back in with my parents and that was uh i didn't really think anything of it and because i was

00:49:18.240 honestly man it's like luke chapter 10 where he's like don't rejoice because the demons are subject

00:49:23.240 to you in your name but rejoice that your names are written in heaven yeah it's kind of like one

00:49:26.760 of those moments that's powerful that you asked that question man just like has my name written

00:49:30.660 in the book so how when you move back in the house then was the parents was it almost like a

00:49:35.060 animal being like nursed like from the zoo like back into the wild did the parents like love you

00:49:39.860 and they understood like did they know what you were going through but to be honest man i think

00:49:43.460 my parents loved me so well as a child i don't think there was any difference i think it was like

00:49:48.580 my parents loved me with the same love as a kid as they do now and they've always modeled like just

00:49:54.900 they don't fight in front of me they don't they don't exhibit like

00:49:58.580 what we would look at as like crazy behavior um did they know the extent of like what you had

00:50:06.060 been through and what and how you were living i told them but it wasn't whenever i moved back

00:50:10.160 in with them because you know they were they're grieving my sister too yeah and yeah um it was a

00:50:16.240 hard season for my family yeah and uh because whenever we were at the hospital we were all

00:50:21.780 there together and my sister i knew when i saw my sister in the icu i was like she's dead like i

00:50:26.560 she may have a heartbeat she's dead she's brain dead and um like it was it was a weird

00:50:32.800 i didn't i couldn't process it in the moment because i was like i don't understand the reality

00:50:38.120 of the situation but it was like it just came in like waves where i was like wow like this really

00:50:42.620 happened like i just i just lost my sister like this is somebody that like we used to wrestle in

00:50:46.840 the front yard and i would like intentionally try to make her mad or rat her out to my parents

00:50:51.300 because she's like doing crazy stuff like this is same this is like yeah man like this is somebody

00:50:56.320 who's like almost an image of me in our family and it was really hard for my parents because my

00:51:01.640 parents love very well and so they were maybe a little happy you were back in the home in a weird

00:51:06.820 way they were probably like well at least he's here yeah my my my parents have always said i

00:51:11.680 never have to leave the house they said you can live here for the rest of your life because they

00:51:14.700 tell me frequently like this is your house now i love that and um they've always been very open

00:51:19.400 about it of course it's not what i want because i want to go out and i want to have my own family

00:51:23.080 but it's what the lord has for me right now and you know he's called me to steward that so now

00:51:27.080 you stay with the folks now here correct okay got it got it yeah because i just moved down here with

00:51:31.900 them so um whenever i moved back into the house um maybe about four years ago um i was so on fire

00:51:40.800 for the lord man like he put a fire in my heart to tell the gospel to anybody and everybody that

00:51:46.420 could live, move, and breathe. That's all I wanted to do. I mean, I'll tell it to trees.

00:51:49.860 You get back in the house, you get out of that environment with the friends. You stop the drugs,

00:51:54.000 cold turkey, or no, you're still kind of doing some bumps here and there and smoking the blunts.

00:51:57.940 No, turkey, you're back with the folks now. And then what, so then what happens next? Like,

00:52:03.220 where do you go to work? What do you, like, what do you do next, man? So I went and I started

00:52:08.880 attending a local church and then I got plugged into their student ministry. Cause I couldn't

00:52:12.940 stop telling people and like come and see a man did you still have the business no okay no i lost

00:52:18.220 that one i got out of the business okay uh so i was just like i i couldn't stop telling people

00:52:23.740 about jesus i was like come and see a man he's told me everything about me let me tell you what

00:52:27.740 he can do for you and so i went to this local church i got plugged into the student ministry

00:52:31.500 i was so on fire man i was there sunday wednesday and saturday kindergarten through 12th grade like

00:52:36.300 wherever i can tell people about jesus i'm going and um i went and i served there for maybe a

00:52:42.220 a little over a year what do you mean you started attending and you served there you mean you were

00:52:46.300 like you were the head of the youth or you were the head of the young adults what was it no i was

00:52:50.900 just a helper so on sunday mornings i would help with like kindergarten through fifth grade and on

00:52:56.280 saturdays i would like uh lead worship but i wouldn't sing i would just like teach the kids

00:53:02.020 how to dance with the songs and um on wednesdays that was the youth so we'd go there and i'd set

00:53:07.300 up everything like i'd set up the flags i'd set up um the entrances i set up like the check-in

00:53:12.460 booths and the in the the tents and stuff like that so these kids whenever they come it's already

00:53:16.100 set up and ready to go uh that's what they that's what the responsibility they gave me to do and i

00:53:20.840 was like man i don't know why i'm doing this but it makes it fills me up yeah like i want to serve

00:53:24.340 and kids are cool man yeah man kids too they're not like so defiled by the world yet i love the

00:53:29.640 little kids too no they're they're they're great and i just it was the one outlet that i could tell

00:53:34.920 people about jesus and and i was like at least that in that moment with the knowledge that i had

00:53:40.120 because i was being overseen by the current uh student administrator and um so i did that for a

00:53:46.360 year and some change and then or maybe a little one that was a paid position or that was just

00:53:50.280 volunteer okay it was just a volunteer what was your job at that time i didn't have a job i just

00:53:55.000 i lost my business so you were good you were just like you know what staying with the folks

00:53:58.920 getting back on my feet yeah pretty much well i mean there was a lot of stuff that i was healing

00:54:03.640 in my heart yeah i was already like i said all of that stuff is happening while this is like

00:54:08.520 going on so i'm already like back in with my parents i just lost my sister i'm still grieving

00:54:13.520 this stuff yeah um i still had the business while i moved back in with my parents but whenever i

00:54:19.100 went to that church i ended up losing it because i didn't have a truck at the time and i had a car

00:54:24.200 and i couldn't tow my trailer um with all my stuff because me and my business partner we split up

00:54:28.980 and so whenever all that went away i just couldn't i couldn't provide anymore yeah for that business

00:54:34.780 so i dissolved it and i just started telling people about jesus and that's the one thing that

00:54:40.560 i felt called to do this just really reminds me of the matthew 16 passage dude it just it just

00:54:46.480 really like uh you know you hear this and it sounds cool and maybe you cultivate some doctrine

00:54:52.280 around it but it's like real to some people too matthew 16 24 uh then said jesus unto his disciples

00:55:00.480 if any man will come after me let him deny himself take up his cross and follow me for

00:55:04.620 whosoever will save his life will lose it and whosoever will lose his life for my sake will

00:55:08.980 find it for what is a man profited if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul or

00:55:13.980 what shall a man give in exchange for his soul just sounds like that was the process you were

00:55:18.280 going through it dude yeah man it and it it cost everything and that's what real worship is it'll

00:55:24.520 cost you everything and it's just simply saying yes to god trusting that his life is better

00:55:28.580 than the one that we have planned for us and because he's a loving father and he he cares

00:55:34.040 about us and he wants to provide for us and he says that you know you're the head not the tail

00:55:37.100 you're above and not beneath you're a lender not a borrower like he gives these promises to us

00:55:40.360 whenever we're walking in his precepts we're walking in surrender we're walking as jesus

00:55:44.820 as Lord, not just Jesus as God. And so I went there and I was just, all I could do is tell

00:55:50.660 people about Jesus. And then the Lord transitioned me out of that, uh, church. And he led me to

00:55:55.520 another church. Cause I had, I was going to a, um, like a men's group that they all went to this

00:56:00.260 one church, um, and it called Crosspoint and I, that's in Niceville. Um, and that is where I would

00:56:09.020 start attending after I would leave that church. Um, and these guys invited me first time I was

00:56:15.540 there. Um, I like everybody I'd ever met from this church was like in the lobby when I walked

00:56:20.500 in. So I felt like it was an Otis welcome party and I just felt super loved very well actually.

00:56:25.980 And I just, I was like, man, like this is something that I want. Like this is, I feel

00:56:30.020 like I belong here, like a sense of belonging. And, um, so I attended there and I did students

00:56:35.340 there for maybe about a little under a year and a half. Um, and I was just attending and

00:56:41.400 volunteering, nothing crazy. Um, I went up to the Asbury revival up in Kentucky whenever that was

00:56:47.360 going on. Um, when, when was that? I remember that a couple of years ago, three years ago.

00:56:52.540 Yeah. Yeah. And it was awesome. The Asbury revival. So you went to that and it was a real

00:56:57.380 deal. It was a real deal. Well, they kicked this out at like 12, 12 PM or something like that. Um,

00:57:03.620 but they started the next day and those lines were long.

00:57:06.340 Yeah.

00:57:06.760 Those lines are so long.

00:57:08.680 And,

00:57:09.140 uh,

00:57:09.360 I think there are some of them were half a mile long.

00:57:11.520 So the cool thing about those revivals is like when one person came out,

00:57:14.660 one person went in,

00:57:15.500 they don't do the crowds or the groups thing.

00:57:17.280 They're just like,

00:57:17.800 yo,

00:57:17.940 go be in God's presence.

00:57:19.520 You don't need your group.

00:57:20.580 You'll,

00:57:20.920 you'll,

00:57:21.240 you'll meet up with them.

00:57:22.020 Like we're at max occupancy right now.

00:57:25.120 And so I went up there and I actually,

00:57:26.600 uh,

00:57:27.180 me and the lead pastor's son,

00:57:28.940 we hit it off really well.

00:57:30.400 And,

00:57:30.920 um,

00:57:31.520 he ended up like something happened in,

00:57:33.540 his heart that trip. He went back and told his dad about the experience. I think he, I think he

00:57:38.080 actually bought a Bible while we were on that trip. And the lead pastor, he would become my

00:57:44.680 mentor, a really good friend. And then later on down the road, he'd become my employer. He saw

00:57:49.220 the calling that God had on my life. He hired you in the church? Not at this moment. He actually

00:57:54.100 got me plugged into seminary at Wesley Biblical Seminary where I would attend and while I was in

00:57:59.940 the fire department and whenever i was transitioning churches i was going through emt school the fire

00:58:05.580 academy and then the fire department and now i left student ministry i know this is all over the

00:58:10.220 place matt no i love this bro i'm tracking i'm trying they make fun of me because i gotta know

00:58:13.700 the whole story or i can't track so you're just like yeah fireman i was a fireman like wait okay

00:58:17.820 where was that okay so you go to the asbury revival you come back you get you start going to

00:58:22.300 like fireman school so i i'm i'm already a fireman at the time okay and then um which is like that

00:58:28.100 schedule is like three days on four days off so you have some free time yeah dude it was probably

00:58:33.400 shout out steven biblical hitman he's a fireman too you ever seen him on the show he crushes man

00:58:37.760 yeah but i but that's the schedule right is you can do that plus something else yeah man that's

00:58:41.960 usually what they do because our schedule was 48 on 96 off so we'd work two days and then we'd be

00:58:46.720 off for four yeah and by the time you went back to work you forgot you had a job but you're getting

00:58:50.940 paid weekly it was just so good that's cool so so in that time period you come back from asbury with

00:58:56.340 the pastor's son pastor's son like gets a bible like dad me and the dude otis like went to asbury

00:59:02.080 it was rad he's a real guy like you and him he kind of becomes your mentor and then he says hey

00:59:07.560 you ought to look at going into cemetery school man that's what i call it too but no they actually

00:59:14.920 sent a group up there and i got included on it and him and i just had a really good fruitful

00:59:19.520 conversation. And so when I came back down, I got plugged into a cemetery and, uh, then I was going

00:59:26.820 to, uh, I just got hired on at the Nashville, uh, fire department would go there while I'm going

00:59:31.980 through seminary. And, um, then I told the, uh, fire chief, I was like, Hey man, um, in my interview,

00:59:38.880 actually, I looked down in the face and I was like, Hey man, I'm called to preach the word.

00:59:43.480 I'm called to vocational ministry. And whenever God calls me, I'm going to go.

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01:02:18.460 And he's like, right now, this is your ministry.

01:02:19.920 And I was like, I'm glad we're in agreement because that's good.

01:02:22.580 Yeah, it was, it was good.

01:02:23.720 And let me tell you, it was,

01:02:25.020 it was one of those hard seasons in my life because it's just a,

01:02:27.940 such a hard and that's a lot.

01:02:29.360 That's a lot.

01:02:29.880 Yeah.

01:02:30.200 It's a part of doing seminary school while you're being the firefighter.

01:02:32.800 so with seminary school like how what's the schedule for that like you go to classes three

01:02:38.140 days a week or is it all online okay got it yeah and like one class is about three hours long so

01:02:43.560 and i could plan it out wherever the guys are really accepting of it because i'd wake up and

01:02:49.440 i'd have all my duties done and like i wouldn't be um impeding on my job it would be in the free

01:02:54.700 time and uh during my probationary year at least so like i had a giant hey come pick on me sign

01:03:00.700 on my back. And, uh, it was, um, it was really fruitful because the Lord used that not only for

01:03:08.020 me, but for the guys that I was working with. And, uh, my lap, whenever, um, I got a phone call

01:03:15.240 from a friend of mine and he was like, are you going to stay in the fire department for the rest

01:03:18.800 of your life? And I was like, man, I leave this job today to go teach God's word. And, uh, he's

01:03:23.440 like, well, it's funny that you say that three days later, I, um, he's like, I'm going to throw

01:03:28.040 your name in for this youth pastor position at this church that I'm working at right now because

01:03:32.440 I'm called to go pastor a church on South Dakota. And so whenever he told me that, I was like, yes,

01:03:37.400 this is it. We did it. We made it. Wrong. And so I put my two weeks in at the fire department.

01:03:47.380 I start pursuing this. And I was like, man, I have so much peace and joy. And like, I'm just

01:03:51.900 gonna follow that and uh whenever i got there the lord was like great people great church not for you

01:03:59.260 in south dakota no this is in uh this is in my hometown this is actually where i went to k

01:04:05.260 through fifth grade it would also do okay so this is all still local what was the south dakota thing

01:04:09.920 no that was my buddy he was going out to pastor a church out there okay got it got he was leaving

01:04:14.080 and so he was going to give me his old position so i came i spoke to the kids i uh shared my

01:04:19.400 testimony, met all the staff, and they were like jumping the hurdles to get me into this position.

01:04:23.500 So you're in seminary school, local, it's online, you're in the fire department, local,

01:04:28.340 and then you leave the fire department to go take this job, and it's local, and then you realize,

01:04:34.020 oh no, I'm not doing this. Well, the Lord released me from the fire department. That I didn't do

01:04:38.460 because I just got this job. He released me from the fire department, and I applied for this job,

01:04:43.640 and then the Lord was like, no. And I was like, okay. And then when I said no to that, I got

01:04:48.180 offered another position as a young adult minister in covington louisiana lord was like no and i was

01:04:52.920 like okay what am i supposed to do now i don't have a job i just turned down two positions in

01:04:57.780 ministry i was like man i just went through eight months of schooling and like what and um what does

01:05:04.640 it sound like for you when god says no i think it's just a redirection i think it's for my

01:05:11.760 protection i didn't in the moment i wasn't like i wasn't upset about it i mean i mean like uh

01:05:18.800 how are you perceiving it how did i hear it how did you hear it discernment i just you know we

01:05:23.700 have the holy spirit and he'll tell you like you'll you'll have a small still whisper behind

01:05:27.480 you saying this is the way walking it and uh you know of course being in god's word every single

01:05:32.300 day it's a lamp into our feet and a light into our path so whenever we are going to the word

01:05:36.140 asking god to reveal hey what's my next step he's faithful to do that because this is the most

01:05:40.280 reliable way of god's communication how he can hear you or how you can hear him um so but i think

01:05:46.080 what top saying is like do you did you like hear a voice not necessarily audible voice but like

01:05:50.320 actually hear the word no or is it just like this overwhelming feeling of like no this is not

01:05:55.840 uh i had a lot of friction in my spirit like it wasn't unsettling it wasn't like a no like it was

01:06:03.520 just like a i don't have peace about this yeah and i pulled back i reassessed the situation and

01:06:10.220 i just waited amen i just waited my wife's good at that bro yeah i was like god close this door

01:06:15.600 if it's not from you yeah sometimes we try to rush into stuff and thank god jess is like hey

01:06:20.280 why don't you just pump the brakes a little bit yeah why don't you just this is good if you love

01:06:24.360 this if you want to rush into this and it's great right now it'll be great in two weeks

01:06:27.500 for two months so why don't you just chill you're talking about the podcast studio well

01:06:31.240 no comment but no i uh i didn't hear an audible voice i've actually only heard the audible voice

01:06:38.240 twice and they were both in dreams it was never whenever i was awake it was never like

01:06:42.860 whenever i had full consciousness it was in dreams save those for the when you go on the

01:06:48.020 nds show save those yeah they'll love that the raven will love that i don't want to get i don't 0.70

01:06:52.380 want to get like all the otis right now we'll save that we'll save the dreams for later okay 0.73

01:06:57.120 so the two so the two jobs you're like no next job no and now you're kind of already left the 1.00

01:07:03.240 fire department what what next yeah so turn down those two jobs turn down the fire department

01:07:08.680 and i was like i gotta serve god that's always been like my motive it was like i gotta tell

01:07:13.100 people about jesus and so i went to that church where the guy um i was attending his the lead

01:07:19.020 pastor was my friend i told him i was like hey i'll start a young adults ministry for you for

01:07:22.380 free like you don't even have to pay me let me do this and he's like we got somebody coming in he's

01:07:26.280 you should apply for this position i was like all right i applied for this position i didn't i was

01:07:30.120 like who's boss like you told me to apply for this i didn't get that so now that's four positions

01:07:35.640 five if you count the fire department and um doors just close yeah man he does that the lord does

01:07:42.280 that and it wasn't until i had a posture of like lord i'm okay with whatever you give me yeah until

01:07:46.760 that door opened yeah and so i was just like you know what i gotta tell people about jesus so what

01:07:51.400 do i do i'll go back to the student ministry and i'm like dude i'll serve in whatever capacity

01:07:55.320 y'all need just let me tell people about jesus and that morning my the lead pastor he reaches

01:08:01.240 out to me he's like let's go work out i was like okay and um he's like i want to offer you this

01:08:05.560 job it's a pastor residency when you had finally accepted that there's there's no job yeah yeah

01:08:10.680 jess is big on that dude that's funny man she's big on like as soon as you get like the thing

01:08:15.240 and you're bothered by it it's this big problem as soon as you accept like okay i'm good this

01:08:20.280 this is what it is. I'm good. Yeah. It just seems like then the next thing presents itself.

01:08:25.320 Whenever we reach a place of contentment, man. Yeah. And I think that's always like a constant

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01:11:08.000 But I've just come to this place of full surrender with the Lord,

01:11:11.780 and I just trust that he is everything he says he is

01:11:14.500 from the first letter to the last period in the Bible.

01:11:17.360 His character remains the same.

01:11:19.760 And so I get this residency, and it's supposed to be a six-month internship.

01:11:24.400 No promise of a job after that.

01:11:26.220 They extend it to a year.

01:11:27.540 Then they hire me on as their student pastor,

01:11:29.420 and then I become a student connections pastor.

01:11:32.460 well in this internship there's students pastor is there in the students connections pastor yeah

01:11:37.720 it's kind of like an associate okay um i had a lot of responsibility from like cleaning toilets

01:11:42.080 to preaching on sundays so like it's just like that combo it just varies yeah and i called people

01:11:47.720 i was like i'm the gap minister filling the gaps yeah amen and so whatever the lord needs and in

01:11:53.060 the midst of my internship i actually start um this ministry because i had this conviction that

01:11:58.820 society is the way it is because men forgot how to be men especially what we talked about last

01:12:03.300 thing about satan doesn't have to take out the whole house dude he takes out the head

01:12:07.220 because like i grew up in a time where the the the male figures like in tv shows was like

01:12:12.020 al bunny and it was like homer simpson and then it was like the queen the king of queens or

01:12:17.700 is something everybody was just every just the guy is just like this helpless dipstick they can't do

01:12:21.940 anything without the lady doing it it's like that and it's subliminal like it's very subtle and just 0.98

01:12:28.020 made men just kind of like yeah i'm an idiot i can't do anything without my wife and they're 0.95

01:12:31.620 not like kingly they're not badasses they're not like leaders of their home you know what i mean 0.98

01:12:36.420 they're not courageous and adventurous and everything's just kind of the mundane you know 0.88

01:12:41.300 punch in punch out mow the lawn wash the car and then dudes are like is this all there is

01:12:46.660 this is all there is no absolutely and that's exactly why i think that there is a huge

01:12:51.940 misconception about men in today even in the world but also in the church too

01:12:57.060 is like men yes we're also called to be stoic and and and like david like we were talking about last

01:13:04.260 night just completely like dude this is the lord's business and i'm gonna stand on it yeah

01:13:08.660 but the jesus wept yeah he came gentle and lowly and meek sure and david too bro like he's killing

01:13:14.420 giants he brings back the foreskins which top loves to talk about he's a savage he goes up

01:13:18.660 against goliath the dude the dude's writing poetry and playing the harp yeah yeah no like dude like

01:13:24.100 Like a real dude, like kind of covers all the bases.

01:13:26.720 Amen.

01:13:27.220 Yeah, that's right.

01:13:27.760 And I think that that's something that has been choked out today.

01:13:31.020 And so I had this conviction during the middle of my internship.

01:13:34.440 I was like, man, where are the men of God?

01:13:37.620 Fair question, man.

01:13:38.860 Where are the men of God?

01:13:40.140 Like, where are the people who are really fearing God, who are not afraid to call out

01:13:43.300 people's bad behavior and say, you need to get right with the Lord?

01:13:46.040 Ravenhill used to say it like that.

01:13:47.500 You know, when Elijah, Elisha gets the mantle of Elijah and he strikes the Jordan River

01:13:53.180 and he says where is the god of elijah raven hill used to preach uh where is where are the elijahs

01:13:58.860 of god yeah man like what like where are the men of god dude and that's that's something that i've

01:14:03.660 wrestled with for for a long time so whenever i do get to meet men of god i just rejoice

01:14:08.060 i just rejoice same and i was like because you know that's all we need it's like one person who

01:14:13.980 says yes one person look at the cross that was one person yeah who said yes amen and so i uh we

01:14:20.860 We started this young adult men's group and actually started as a group chat between me

01:14:25.440 and two of my friends.

01:14:26.780 And by the end of the month, we had like almost 30 something people in this group chat.

01:14:30.940 And I was like, Lord, you're clearly doing something here.

01:14:33.000 So the group was just in a chat.

01:14:34.400 Yeah.

01:14:34.720 Just kept adding to it.

01:14:35.840 Yeah.

01:14:36.260 And I didn't go out.

01:14:37.300 I didn't advertise it or anything.

01:14:38.520 Like it just, it was just natural.

01:14:40.700 And then I was like, you know what?

01:14:42.240 We have something here.

01:14:43.420 And then the Lord impressed upon my heart.

01:14:44.660 He's like, society has forgotten who the Holy Spirit is.

01:14:47.620 and Francis Chan even made a series or book about it called Forgotten God regarding the Holy Spirit

01:14:52.440 I think we've got it we probably think we've got it in the c-section yeah the c-section yeah

01:14:56.940 and um so we gave ourselves to the book of Acts we just went a very expository chapter by chapter

01:15:04.980 word by word verse by verse what does the church look like in scripture that's right and we gave

01:15:09.500 ourselves to scripture five for five months because that was a lot of time that we had

01:15:14.040 um we met at coffee shops we met for two hours and we meet every single week and somebody usually

01:15:19.980 myself but somebody um would create the lesson plan and we would just for five months go over

01:15:26.260 the book of acts and um at the very end of it he was like you know the holy spirit is the helper

01:15:31.240 go give him a work to help and so that's where we came up with this beach outreach program

01:15:35.560 and man i had no idea what we were doing beach outreach yeah we're like we because like i lived

01:15:42.120 in a fishing village yeah we had the beaches there the white sandy beaches wait so you guys

01:15:46.600 were just hitting up people on the beach like preaching the gospel yeah man it's my jam dude

01:15:50.560 something like that dude and and the thing is like we'd go out there and we had we we made this tent

01:15:58.320 that says need prayer all the way around and that was like our our central hub so you get a lot of

01:16:03.540 drunk people yeah man yeah oh i want to do that man dude it's it's so much fun and we can we can 0.95

01:16:09.340 recreate it here especially in the squares like i don't know the boomers are different than the

01:16:14.100 young drunks on the beach dude that's like a different you got a new retirement plan

01:16:17.840 but the the cool thing was man is you got people from all different backgrounds from all we had 0.76

01:16:26.160 like practicing muslims who come up and treat it as an apologetic center you got people who are

01:16:30.520 jewish who are like right on the edge of believing that jesus is god yeah you had like all you had a 0.81

01:16:34.800 huge diversity of of cultures that were coming up but it was the common theme was they were broken 0.97

01:16:41.200 and searching amen and so this is in a vacation place so everybody's from somewhere else everybody's

01:16:46.720 on vacation everybody's kind of letting loose being free they're not worried about looking over

01:16:50.640 their shoulder if their buddy's gonna see him talking to the church tent yeah bro that's cool

01:16:54.640 and the cool thing is that whenever we the first day that we went out there was june 8 three years

01:16:58.320 ago and the first day we went out there we had no idea what we were doing we were just out there to

01:17:03.440 to pray for people we didn't even leave our tent we were just lord send them the harvest was plentiful

01:17:08.060 but the workers are few pray to the god of the harvest he might send the workers and that's

01:17:10.620 exactly what we did we stand on the scriptures of god we stayed close to what he wants from us and

01:17:15.360 we did it verbatim how the scripture tells us and we prayed and we prayed for people and people

01:17:20.360 started receiving the holy spirit and the cool thing about doing it on the beach is whenever

01:17:24.900 somebody accepts christ and like there is a real transformation in their heart we could go baptize

01:17:30.480 them right there in the ocean bro i like that and man the cool thing is like we we would go out there

01:17:35.400 whenever it started evolving and growing and we kind of had like an image of what the lord was

01:17:39.560 wanting from it we would go out there we'd hand out i'm sure you know that like i wear this shirt

01:17:45.820 all the time yeah you do but you don't do it in a corny way bro there's like a lot of the corny

01:17:50.600 ones like that but you're doing it right dude but then the cool thing is this is our uniform so if

01:17:55.220 you came out and you served with us it was a six hour day everybody had the same shirt yeah man

01:17:58.900 we looked like a pack of skittles walking down the beach it was all different colors it was so cool

01:18:03.380 and uh if you came out and served with us we gave you a free shirt that was an incentive you know

01:18:07.500 because it's going to be a uniform it's going to be fruitful out there yeah i mean it's not going

01:18:11.480 to it's it's all my money is god's yeah that's powerful he's my provider yeah and so whenever

01:18:17.480 you came out there and you served us you get a shirt put it on and what we'll do is we'll all

01:18:20.780 pray for each other before we leave the tent and we'll split the group up in half because we have

01:18:25.180 almost 40 people out there and uh yeah we'd be like you guys go as far east as the spirit will

01:18:29.920 take you you guys go as far west i do a gospel sharing presentation teach people how to share

01:18:33.720 the gospel and be like go to whoever hears your message and if they don't shake the dust off your

01:18:38.260 feet and go to the next person off your feet that's it man and it was just it was really

01:18:43.000 powerful and the coolest thing was we had like sunscreen aloe sunglasses water bottles gatorades

01:18:48.960 chips and everything we had it's like stuff that you would take to the beach we just gave it away

01:18:52.860 for free because that was like hey now i have access into your life i'm giving you something

01:18:57.260 let me tell you about the gospel of jesus christ hopefully it wasn't the toxic sunscreen though

01:19:00.980 that stuff kills like the reef the barrier reef and stuff the coral reef i don't actually remember

01:19:07.720 which one it was okay that's all right that's a sidebar but okay so you're doing that you're

01:19:11.960 preaching the gospel on the beach people are getting saved people are coming and then they're

01:19:16.620 coming back to your because this is all part of the uh ministry you're doing at the church no so

01:19:20.800 this is completely separate and this is actually my favorite thing you'd really like this it was

01:19:25.460 church centric not church affiliated and so it actually like who made the shirts then like who

01:19:30.740 is it you just went out and made the shirts yeah this was all your deal yeah i got a print guy back

01:19:35.480 home and uh and all i wanted to do you print oh yeah todd does everything in the universe i know

01:19:43.140 he does and it's all good too but um he's a master of all trades and a jack of none dude

01:19:49.840 oh dude it's backwards i like that that's accurate

01:19:55.780 but the cool thing was whenever we were out there it wasn't like we had an agenda like we

01:20:05.620 have to do this yeah it was just like a lord whatever you want to do we'll do we're at the

01:20:10.060 beach we're at the beach and i'll never forget this one day and it was where we like call it

01:20:20.080 our little jesus revolution i'll never forget this one day man that a buddy of mine who started going

01:20:27.840 to the church oh we were talking about uh church centric but not church affiliated the cool thing

01:20:32.400 that i really enjoy about it i enjoyed about it the most was we had 15 plus local churches actively

01:20:38.500 participating in this organization to send representatives out that we would train them

01:20:43.380 and equip them to replicate this process with their own churches to cover all the beaches in

01:20:48.980 the emerald coast and the panhandle all that we had people who were driving from panama city

01:20:53.700 uh from crestview from defuniac from navarre well if i'm at like rosemary beach or the seaside

01:21:01.540 that's it man that's actually that's actually where we were so potentially where the truman

01:21:05.220 show was filmed at yeah so potentially if i see a tent maybe it was like from a thing that you had

01:21:10.680 started three four years ago uh if it's black and green yes that's wild man i know man and it's

01:21:17.440 right there in seaside too so so how long did you do that for so we did it for three years it's

01:21:23.540 actually still ongoing right now and they actually have i think they actually have an outreach this

01:21:28.240 saturday so this was your main thing that you've been doing since you before you moved to the

01:21:33.840 villages. That was the last thing you were doing. Yeah. Yeah. We were in the process of playing a

01:21:38.300 church through that. We had no idea what it was going to be. Wait, what? Okay. So this was your

01:21:42.540 thing that you kind of fired up. I thought you at some point worked in a church, like in a paid

01:21:47.720 position. Yeah. I was doing this on like on my own personal time while I was in my internship

01:21:54.000 at the church. Okay. Got it. And you know, I'm working at this church. So I'm saying like,

01:21:58.720 Hey, this is a church that I'm a part of because you're, you're more than welcome to come check us

01:22:02.620 out, but I was more invested in getting people to the right home than my home. And I was like,

01:22:10.400 dude, go where you feel comfortable. Go where you can hear from God, because ultimately that's

01:22:15.660 what's going to heal you. That's what's going to satisfy you. That's what's going to give you

01:22:19.620 purpose and belonging. It's like, you need to be where God is. Don't come to where I am,

01:22:23.960 because I am a fallible man. I'm going to fail you every single day. And I fail God every single

01:22:27.900 a day yeah but you need to go to him so that's what i love most about that organization was we

01:22:33.140 had over 15 churches participating to come out send representatives to replicate it in their own

01:22:37.680 home from that area but then you were meeting people that were from other states right they're

01:22:41.580 on vacation and people came from across the world to go vacation go back to where you're from and

01:22:46.180 get plugged into a church you know what's wild bro is when i first got converted i got all my

01:22:50.000 grandpa's stuff and like i said he never talked to me about god but he'd be reading the bible and

01:22:54.960 stuff whenever i went to his house he was like watching old world war ii movies and stuff i

01:22:58.500 think he had like trauma from world war ii so he'd watch like mash and like this show patten or a

01:23:03.020 movie patten he was like always watching world war ii stuff i think he was like still in world

01:23:06.640 war ii in his mind he was like always reading a bible so then when i got converted i got all of

01:23:11.700 his stuff right and then uh i got some rad stuff that was his that never mattered while he was

01:23:18.120 alive like he never saw me born again but like i got all his stuff after that nobody else in my

01:23:22.460 family wanted and so like i called his church and said i want to start tithing to like to to your

01:23:28.380 church because my grandpa was there the guy was like oh this is great he went on for like 20

01:23:32.620 minutes like telling me about my grandpa now he led bible studies and stuff like i didn't know

01:23:36.360 any of this dude he's like telling me all this stuff and he's like well listen man i'm not you

01:23:40.860 we won't take your money i was like wait what like everywhere i've been in the local church

01:23:46.700 they're all begging for money he's like no no your grandpa wouldn't want that your grandpa would want

01:23:50.280 you to be at a local church tithing so we we won't take your money wow yeah is that wild but that but

01:23:56.600 it's like the same heart you know like you guys are doing you're saying like no we're preaching

01:23:59.820 the gospel to the people i don't care if you come to my church keep your money like you'll do

01:24:03.660 whatever but like you got to get plugged in somewhere yeah man because ultimately we're not

01:24:08.980 building our legacy we're building his amen and that's that's what it's all about man what's the

01:24:12.740 difference if they go to this building or that building or what this congregation or that as

01:24:16.320 long as they're plugged in yeah and it's like it's all about community man and we it's it's so

01:24:20.880 important to have that group of believers that surround you that can support you and pray with

01:24:25.620 you and walk through life's hard battles with you we need that and that's that's what we that's what

01:24:30.900 we wanted we didn't we weren't like give us your money so we can plant a church no it was like

01:24:36.280 dude let's be faithful to share the gospel a commission that jesus gave every believer

01:24:40.360 and let's live into that and let's see like the lame walk the blind see the dead be raised like

01:24:46.520 let's see this stuff and we were we were praying for people we were laying hands on people

01:24:50.560 out there man they were getting healed and the cool thing is is whenever we were out there

01:24:56.600 i remember one guy in particular really good friend of mine um he came up to me and he's like

01:25:03.980 i just heard god speak to me and he like i think he like in that moment he became a born-again

01:25:09.840 believer he's like i think i heard god speak to me i was like what do you mean he's like i heard

01:25:13.960 god tell me in the ear that i'm completely deaf in to go get baptized and the dude said that yeah

01:25:21.180 bro and i was like what he's like yeah i think i should get baptized i was like all right man

01:25:27.380 so we go out there and to the water and i'm just sharing the gospel i'm just like i want you to

01:25:33.420 know that this is what jesus did and this baptism right now it does not save you you're doing this

01:25:38.560 out of obedience to the command that Christ gave us.

01:25:41.340 Christ associated with us by getting baptized,

01:25:45.280 and we are to follow in his footsteps.

01:25:47.680 And whenever we baptized him, man, I'm telling you,

01:25:49.680 it was just like one after the other from the beach.

01:25:53.140 They saw us baptizing him.

01:25:54.600 They saw our group rejoicing when he came out of the water,

01:25:57.980 and people just kept coming up and getting baptized and hearing,

01:26:00.760 and they kept hearing the gospel, man.

01:26:02.780 Like this is like people who are actually wanting it.

01:26:05.120 I remember one lady in particular, her name was Karen.

01:26:07.000 she was like almost 80 something years old and she came up and she's like everything i just saw

01:26:12.920 out there it makes me feel like i've wronged god and like it's like it gets me choked up

01:26:18.520 she's like it makes me feel like i got i've wronged god like i have hurt him i was like

01:26:23.560 what you're feeling is conviction that's leading you to repentance she's like i think i want to

01:26:28.360 give my life back to jesus like this 80 year old woman man and she's like i want to give my life

01:26:34.280 back to jesus and she's like but i don't want the fanfare can we just walk down here and you baptize

01:26:38.680 me i don't care if it's in front of like that but like i want to give my life back to jesus and uh

01:26:44.200 dude it's just it's better to show you and we actually have a video of it um oh we don't have

01:26:50.040 it if you can email us okay you can email it from from the phone yeah yeah okay here let's see if

01:27:00.120 see if we can get it pulled up but in the meantime so you got tons of stories from the beach your body

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01:29:39.480 with the parents how long ago is that whenever i left the beach to

01:29:46.200 um be here with my parents that was the end of october okay so like so like so i had already

01:29:54.720 we had already gone through um people started opening their homes for us to come and meet

01:29:59.700 and their house and we had like regular uh services where i would like have a prepared

01:30:04.860 word and then we outgrew the house and then we people would offer us their place of business

01:30:09.340 and we just continued with it so you were doing that all the way till september yeah and then

01:30:14.400 you're like hey guys i gotta roll well the cool thing was like i was doing all of this while i

01:30:20.460 was still working at this church and it was um it was just something that the lord get it

01:30:29.140 sorry go ahead you want me to airdrop you uh i can email i can airdrop it to your macbook

01:30:36.560 Yeah, let's do that.

01:30:40.160 Says it's got an airdrop code.

01:30:42.160 Top's going to edit this out anyway.

01:30:44.260 Are we live on anything?

01:30:46.280 Yeah, no, we're not live.

01:30:47.360 5-6-6-8-6-6.

01:30:52.120 There we go.

01:30:52.980 Not even on Patreon?

01:30:54.760 No.

01:30:57.720 People would love this on Patreon, dude.

01:30:59.920 I know, but Otis doesn't have his book out yet.

01:31:03.360 To be fair, we haven't even talked about the book yet.

01:31:06.100 we're gonna get there we are that's why i'm trying to lead up to the whole thing yeah

01:31:10.660 you got it but you're gonna be able to do episode two with the boys dude on nds to share more of the

01:31:16.580 dreams share more of the beach stories like dude i got some crazy spiritual experiences i believe

01:31:21.860 it bro if you're if you put yourself out there like down the beach dude and especially in an

01:31:25.940 environment where like you know like jesus says like a prophet is a prophet but not in his own

01:31:30.420 town among his own people you start getting in these environments where people leave their town

01:31:35.060 they're on vacation or whatever

01:31:37.240 I don't know there's something about that

01:31:39.460 in the human spirit where people get real

01:31:41.280 and they become the real them

01:31:42.800 not the person that they have to be in that

01:31:45.280 territory that they live and things

01:31:47.180 change man people get real

01:31:49.160 about life I got

01:31:51.160 witness to in Hawaii bro when I grew up

01:31:53.140 in Cali I was never I was never evangelized

01:31:55.500 I was never evangelized

01:31:57.440 like we went to Catholic church but

01:31:59.120 like nobody knew why we went my mom said

01:32:01.160 we go because I told you so

01:32:02.580 because because i say so like that's why we go to catholic church but nobody no christian ever like

01:32:07.540 talked to me about christ wow and uh we were in hawaii just like snorting coke and doing ecstasy

01:32:13.880 and just drinking and partying and stuff and i know now that in waikiki there's like a ywam there

01:32:19.400 so i'm guessing it was ywam but i don't know i don't i don't know to this day a dude just

01:32:24.180 stopped me in my tracks dome was like god's got a plan for your life that's what he said man

01:32:28.840 and i and i was totally responsive to it right i was on vacation and there's something about

01:32:33.620 territories i think man and geography and somehow in that environment i was like even though i was

01:32:38.820 wasted i was like bro what you know it's totally different than like do you want to come to church

01:32:43.420 he was like god's got a plan for your life and i was like yeah i'd kind of like to know about that

01:32:47.300 because what i'm doing right now i don't know how long i can do this and uh i don't and i don't

01:32:52.320 remember the rest of the conversation but that's why i can vibe with this whole thing that you're

01:32:56.660 on the beach man and you're dealing with people on vacation because it's different and even if

01:33:00.420 they're drinking and partying it's like their spirits are a little more opened up which is not

01:33:04.120 good i'm not i'm not like saying that's a good thing but but in that environment if you grab

01:33:08.660 them in that environment that's a good way to get at people's spirit man absolutely so this is

01:33:13.660 actually our promo video of like what we um what we use to kind of uh tell people like hey this is

01:33:22.120 what we're doing it's easier to to see it than just to describe it and um you can go ahead yeah

01:33:29.160 let's see let's so this is like what we would send to people so that's the need prayer tents

01:33:34.360 solid and we would set up everyone has those jesus loves you shirts everything on our table

01:33:38.540 we would give out for free um and as people would come up to the tent that's when i didn't have a

01:33:43.020 beard man you look cool with the shorter beard no and so we'd all just stand around and pray

01:33:47.720 before we start the day and then people would come up and receive christ and then they would

01:33:51.800 just we would go out there and like right in front of all these people who are partying and

01:33:55.660 getting drunk bachelor parties man we just baptize them right there and you see how many people are

01:34:01.300 out on the beach in like all ages we got a lot of support from like uh photo fish and wildlife

01:34:08.220 the sheriff department the lifeguards and it was just uh it was a really wholesome experience

01:34:14.600 because you can't you can't make that up that goes hard dude eden was what what the name of

01:34:20.260 ministry that's right that goes hard bro yeah man it was uh was that not private beaches there

01:34:25.300 though in uh seaside isn't it all private all public wow that's cool man it was um it was a

01:34:33.300 gift it was a gift and so fast forwarding through all that we uh we i did a year-long internship

01:34:39.620 became a student pastor and then i became the connections pastor and there was a lot of abrasion

01:34:45.540 um in my career and my ministry and um so we shut it down and shut down eden yeah we shut it down

01:34:57.140 because you were busy with the church ministry the no it was just because of the all of the uh

01:35:01.980 the whiplash that i was getting and it it was almost like uh you need to pick us or that type

01:35:08.260 thing oh the church that you were working at yeah they were kind of saying like hey man this is

01:35:12.280 taking a little too much of your time well the thing is like i did it all on my own off time

01:35:16.480 so were they like yo you you need to bring this under our umbrella or are they just like you just

01:35:21.120 wanted yeah they they saw the success i mean i remember they were actually coming up to me like

01:35:26.420 why are so many people finding so much life at eden i was like because jesus is the main thing

01:35:31.060 yeah because it's not a cold dead formality that's right man and like we wait so then that that

01:35:36.420 started to rub them wrong that you were that you were having like so-called success yeah with with

01:35:41.120 this and they were saying like no you need to be focusing on this job well it wasn't even about the

01:35:46.040 job it was strictly about just the success and it was it was dude i'm telling you it's like the most

01:35:53.060 bizarre thing in the world no it's not it's exactly how organized religious institutions

01:35:58.600 operate bro it's like exactly how they operate i know and it's just it's it's unfortunate and it's

01:36:03.860 sad because there were people i remember so like coherently that there were people who would come

01:36:10.940 me like i never would have gone back to a normal church but like because of this like i actually

01:36:16.140 felt like i was safe to come back out again and like my prayer my prayer matt has always been

01:36:23.100 lord send me the ones that nobody else wants amen like dude that's those are the those are

01:36:27.900 the ones that i the least of these those are the realest bro those are the ones that i want lord

01:36:32.220 and he's been faithful and like people who have been hurt or rejected or ostracized or the black

01:36:41.180 sheeps you know like jesus loves them yeah jesus loves them and it's and it breaks my heart when

01:36:48.940 man controls the narrative of god's love for those people and whenever we shut it down it

01:36:57.100 It wasn't because I wanted to.

01:36:58.440 It was because God told me to.

01:37:01.560 What a shame, though, bro. 1.00

01:37:03.140 It's like he creates this path for the outcasts to come back to him.

01:37:06.480 You know what I mean?

01:37:06.900 Well, it's not done.

01:37:08.440 There was a lot of, like, cool things that he did.

01:37:11.900 It was kind of like a behind-the-back jump shot.

01:37:14.200 It was pretty cool.

01:37:15.240 And so we shut it down, and then the Lord released me from the church that I was working at and started again.

01:37:21.820 and uh but so wait so you shut down eden to do the 501c3 church thing and then you leave that

01:37:29.660 so back to the eden we shut eden was our 501c3 church thing that's it just evolved over time

01:37:36.420 but it was its own entity correct separate from the church that you were being paid at correct

01:37:40.920 got it and so i left eden went back to the church that i was working at and then over time there was

01:37:47.100 a lot of things that were happening and then just the holy spirit was like i want you to step down

01:37:50.720 from this responsibility i did that and it was like smacking a hornet's nest and then i the holy

01:37:56.980 spirit just released me completely um and he told me to go start eating again so i did that and um

01:38:06.260 it's kind of like that that passage where like unless the kernel of wheat falls to the ground

01:38:09.860 and dies it remains alone yeah yeah so whenever we shut eden down man we had like four or five

01:38:15.720 different people go and start their own amen groups and it's just like i didn't see it in

01:38:21.000 the moment because i'm like lord we had such a healthy church yeah and like i didn't understand

01:38:26.840 and one of the one of the guys in my business group that i met with on friday mornings

01:38:30.840 um he was speaking into me and he was an old fire chaplain and a pastor now

01:38:35.960 and he was just like eden had to shut down the way it did so whenever you left the church

01:38:40.120 you were working at it wouldn't look like you were splitting up a church because i had people

01:38:43.960 who said like dude wherever you go i'm going i was like no yeah please don't do that like yeah

01:38:49.000 that's just a terrible thing a modern american church culture that's completely meaningless

01:38:53.800 sat in on too many like so-called sermons about like american church culture and it's just like

01:38:58.920 nobody cares like are people getting to know the lord like who cares which avenue it is or which

01:39:04.040 501c3 they do it through like nobody cares yeah we got to get people to know the lord man that's

01:39:08.760 That's right. And that's, that's, that's always been the forefront of my inspiration, I guess,

01:39:15.000 in everything that I've done. I was like, I just want to lead with Jesus. I mean, I'm Otis died

01:39:19.400 five years ago. Like Otis is gone, man. It's no longer I live, but Christ who lives in me.

01:39:25.500 And so I remember Catherine Kuhlman used to say, I can take you to the place where Catherine

01:39:29.180 Kuhlman died. And I think it was like an alley in some city, dude. She was like, I can take you

01:39:34.240 to the place and show you where Catherine Kuhlman died. I love that. That's actually pretty cool.

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01:42:09.320 But, yeah, we started it back up again, and then I started pouring into a guy who is currently leading it, and he's taking over it completely.

01:42:19.860 Leading?

01:42:20.340 Yep.

01:42:20.840 Sweet.

01:42:21.120 And so I've been pouring into him and just, I was like, hey, man, I'm going to be leaving and I want this to continue.

01:42:29.380 And I want, there was like three guys in front of me.

01:42:32.340 I was like, I want all of you guys to pray if this is a responsibility that the Lord wants you to take on.

01:42:37.740 And if nobody answers, we'll shut it down.

01:42:39.440 I'm okay with that.

01:42:40.500 But if he tells you, I want you to reach out to me.

01:42:42.620 And there was a guy that I knew, the Holy Spirit revealed to me, he's like, this is the guy that I want.

01:42:46.900 And the same day that the Holy Spirit told me that, he reached out to me and he said, I'll do it.

01:42:52.460 And so I started pouring into him.

01:42:54.720 We met like for a whole month.

01:42:57.500 We were just meeting and I was just like, hey, this, I want to check your heart.

01:43:00.460 I want to make sure that you have the right mindset of what you're going into.

01:43:03.660 I want you to know that whenever you're advancing the gospel for the kingdom, you're going to experience a lot of whiplash, a lot of warfare.

01:43:09.100 And like, you need to be prepared for this.

01:43:10.660 Like this is, the battle is not given to the strong nor the race given to the swift.

01:43:14.980 Like you need to be prepared.

01:43:16.440 you need to have a faith that is rooted in christ and i'm not just saying this to scare you i'm 1.00

01:43:21.240 saying this to sober you because whenever you go out there you're gonna have three muslims walk up 0.67

01:43:25.800 to you and try and debunk your theology and if you're not ready they hate that you say god's a 0.96

01:43:30.280 man that's always the big thing the muslims hate you bro i remember getting in a fight with a guy

01:43:33.800 at a pool bar before i was even like saved but i had just known a little bit about the bible and 1.00

01:43:38.040 i was saying that jesus was god and i remember him just being irate bro that like god can't be a man

01:43:44.440 man, that's always the thing. And you know what? That is offensive. Amen. Yeah, God came down to

01:43:52.500 the earth as a man, let people spit in his face and rip his beard out and made him die a bloody,

01:43:56.560 torturous death to buy us back from the dead. That's crazy talk. That's right. Amen, Muslim 0.99

01:44:00.640 guy. You're right. That's crazy talk. But that is the story of reality. That's right. But I

01:44:04.940 understand that that's offensive or the fact that the creator of the universe would live inside of

01:44:08.900 us. That's super offensive too. And Muslims and anybody else has every right to say, well, show

01:44:13.420 me the goods then show me the goods if this story is true show me the goods the story of jesus is 0.76

01:44:19.300 true and he sent his spirit to come live inside you show me the goods dude i can nerd out on that

01:44:24.960 all day we'll save that for another episode because we got to get to your current project

01:44:31.260 yeah man so whenever he took over so we did the whole thing right we were in the timeline now we

01:44:35.980 got it all the way from the birth of otis all the way through the party years the test the coke the

01:44:41.800 math the no no math but the but the weed right everything else the living in the mansion all the

01:44:48.940 crazy stuff starting the church thing doing the outreach on the beach got another guy to take it

01:44:55.880 over now like david what did we read last night he didn't just leave the sheep alone he got somebody

01:45:00.480 to take over the sheep while he's gone and so that's where we're at now and so when did you

01:45:04.980 start working on your current project and i actually i would say late november early december

01:45:12.440 is when i actually started um with the book um so we're in april now so it's five or six months

01:45:22.460 yeah and i think the longest part was just my procrastination sure i didn't know i was like

01:45:28.240 i'm still like going out trying to like lord what are you calling me to do man because yeah like

01:45:34.160 i'm just i'm you told me to go i went and you told me that you had a door open for me and i'm

01:45:39.600 i'm here bro this is an impressive timeline like you don't stay doing nothing no you're a rolling

01:45:47.300 stone that gathers no moss like you're like okay i'm done with one thing boom i'm into the next

01:45:52.140 gotta be about my father's business man amen bro oh that's an impressive timeline so yeah whenever

01:45:57.260 he came down here i immediately jumped on this and i uh started teaching online and i would i was

01:46:02.840 just, I didn't, I didn't think anything of it. I didn't think that this was going to be something

01:46:06.520 that like the Lord was actually calling me to do. Um, but you know, it's all about seasons and

01:46:11.720 every season looks different. And right now this season looks like, Hey, I want you to equip and

01:46:17.660 empower people who may not feel like they are ready to talk about me. And I want you to create

01:46:22.820 a curriculum where they could put it in their homes and they can invite their friends over

01:46:27.420 and there's no pressure on them to perform. It's just pressure on getting to the feet of Jesus.

01:46:32.840 and that's exactly what this is so we in november i started writing this book and i had no idea what

01:46:39.000 it was going to be i had no idea intention of it being what it is today it was just like that

01:46:43.960 day by day the holy spirit would be like this is what i want it to look like this is what i

01:46:47.160 want it to look like and it would just make sense i didn't have like um this grand scheme i don't

01:46:54.040 want to get rich off this book i don't like but but the main context was to create a book that

01:46:58.840 that that average person a normal person can have this book and can facilitate a bible study that's

01:47:05.560 right so the goal like if i were to summarize what this whole book is in four words it's like

01:47:10.300 home church discipleship curriculum that's what it is that if let's say there's three of us in

01:47:15.200 this room right now i could put it on i could put this book in anybody's hands they could read it

01:47:19.200 like a normal book and they could facilitate a whole bible study and study for dummies that's

01:47:23.840 right that's right and it's really it's really easy just to read like it's not um a seminary

01:47:30.280 level while it is challenging and it's going to push people out of their boats but that's the

01:47:34.740 whole point is we want to walk on water but too many of us are paralyzed to open up our homes and

01:47:38.880 and talk about jesus because we think that we're going to get it wrong so it's so it's plain talk

01:47:42.660 it's not seminary level it's not filled with too much of the american churchology it's just like

01:47:48.340 real talk for real people. You love the Lord. You want to be able to facilitate something in

01:47:54.580 your home to help others to come to know the Lord. You're not saying you know everything

01:47:58.500 and you're going to be people in debates. You're just trying to have like real conversation with

01:48:01.920 real people, kind of get it going. Here, this book's going to help you.

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01:50:37.380 The Patreon for my show, after Matt has been doing his Bible studies,

01:50:43.060 it's consistently people going, I think I'm going to do a Bible study.

01:50:47.080 I don't know how.

01:50:48.360 Yeah.

01:50:48.640 I don't know where to start.

01:50:50.380 I don't know what to do.

01:50:51.400 I'm just going to go for it.

01:50:53.420 Yeah.

01:50:53.880 And Matt's just like, yeah, yeah, just read the Bible.

01:50:56.100 But it's like, okay, yeah.

01:50:57.720 But now if there's a guide for this, yeah,

01:51:00.900 this is extremely beneficial for these guys and i just think we're taking a small snapshot

01:51:05.040 of a small chunk of the population but i'd imagine that that's across the country it's the same thing

01:51:11.040 dude it's people come in contact with the word of god they go what this is dude i love this what do

01:51:16.020 i what do i do now though and then too many times the only option is go watch the show one day a

01:51:21.040 week yeah and then they do that for a while they get cold it's like putting a baby in a refrigerator

01:51:26.300 ravenhill used to say that too man he's like you got a born again baby they're born again and boom

01:51:30.660 you put them in the fridge and close it it's part of why i like uh broadcasting the bible studies

01:51:35.040 you do because it's a it's a look into it right like so people are seeing what you're doing in

01:51:39.940 in private in a way so maybe they can replicate it but go ahead no that and the cool thing too

01:51:45.680 is and i'd love to get it in y'all's hands is i have a skeleton format on how you could replicate

01:51:52.860 this whole book because i'm not like i said i'm not trying to get rich i'm trying to cook the

01:51:55.580 saints for the work of ministry so that's all that's all the goal was for this book was like

01:52:00.240 dude the early church model worked amen why did we take it why did we take it away and

01:52:06.060 that's it that's it i mean they were taking money uh people were selling land right and bringing

01:52:15.180 the money to the church leadership to distribute to the poor well that model doesn't work if you're

01:52:21.420 trying to get rich the model that works to get rich is take the money from the poor to buy the

01:52:26.160 land and build the buildings right we're doing the exact opposite because it's a business endeavor

01:52:30.320 now yeah but like if we do it like the early church and we believe what they believed and

01:52:36.340 we live how they lived it would change everything and i'm not saying exactly like that like i like

01:52:40.580 i understand in different uh geographic locations and different time periods there's freedom in

01:52:45.420 christ and things that operate a little different but we're just so far from from the early church

01:52:50.500 dude of what we have in the bible that it's like where do you even start if this thing is supposed

01:52:55.820 to go god's gonna provide the money for you no and it's actually really funny you say that

01:53:00.700 is because i got like this big and uh i won't say man it's more than what i had i had somebody

01:53:06.300 invest in it yesterday whenever i was like i was telling him like hey man like i'm actually

01:53:10.300 printing off my manuscript right now uh for uh for this show and i was like hey i'm printing it

01:53:15.820 off right now and they're like this is for the first round of publishing to get it out like

01:53:20.620 the physical copies it's great and dude it's it's been really cool um just to see how the lord's

01:53:26.860 hand has been on this and i'm not saying that i'm super smart and that it's going to change your life

01:53:30.860 but you know because ultimately only the holy spirit can do that it doesn't matter how like

01:53:34.780 the words in the pages it matters about the christ in the heart and so whenever we are

01:53:40.460 reading this book it's not like um it's going to be magical it's going to change your life but it's

01:53:45.340 like like we were saying whenever i was sharing my testimony it's like if you really come broken

01:53:48.860 and ready to receive god will meet you there and i believe i believe that he's behind it because

01:53:52.940 the amount of support that i have gotten just from you know from you guys from the community

01:53:56.820 that i've told the ideas to to other people who are pastors in the area or to other publishers

01:54:02.660 or to whatever man like i don't i don't know how long you've been coming in the shop i'm guessing

01:54:07.020 it's been a couple months yeah probably about two months but i've just been impressed bro you're and

01:54:11.480 you're only 27 like you talk and you have wisdom like you're a lot older than that but like to see

01:54:16.840 your work ethic bro it's like every day you're in the pods are in you're not letting anybody

01:54:22.600 distract you unless it's like very short you know it's like a little quick yeah what's up

01:54:26.960 i mean you stay diligent on it dude like that's very respectable bro i appreciate that you don't

01:54:32.040 see that a lot dude a lot of people's work ethic is shot now especially if you get in an environment

01:54:36.660 where it's kind of people are coming and talking and pull you here pull you there like you're and

01:54:41.380 you do your thing with people like you do you do really cool stuff and meet cool people and you've

01:54:45.020 just been like a huge benefit to the shop dude just like just to be around and vibing with people

01:54:50.480 man has been huge but you stay diligent at the work man like i have to think that's going to be

01:54:55.520 a great work that you're doing man just just seeing your work ethic well i know we had a

01:54:59.360 problem with the video do we have uh did you get this that i sent yeah i sent so there's a tax too

01:55:07.020 or was it yeah is it the picture the picture is one of them i have the picture okay then let me

01:55:13.980 okay top lobster the top lobster the top lobster oh man let me see

01:55:24.920 okay so that is the format i'm gonna email to you now the uh actual lesson um i do have that

01:55:36.000 yeah can that go up there yeah okay then that can go up after this so i'll break it down of

01:55:42.060 how the book works um it starts with the title and theme i'm running over myself here it starts

01:55:49.420 with the title and the theme and then it goes to the session of like what we're doing so today i

01:55:55.460 actually have i uh i sent um the session 13 in my books right smack dab in the middle so it's not

01:56:02.740 at the beginning not at the end this is kind of like the quality of the middle of the book and i

01:56:06.960 try to be consistent all throughout um and i do want to preface this that this book does not

01:56:12.800 supplement the bible i actually have that at the prefix of the book as like do not think that this

01:56:19.180 can supplement your time in god's word because god's word is supposed to be south for our soul

01:56:23.720 so i have that um prefaced and we now have see if i can get it to john g lake i remember reading

01:56:32.060 John G. Lake years ago where he said that, that like, you can see like a seasoned man of God

01:56:37.700 start to go astray when he starts reading other books more than the Bible, right? That like,

01:56:46.620 amen, we all love other books or that's what the library is. It's other books. Like we love that,

01:56:51.900 but it can never take the place of the word of God. That's actually what I talked about this

01:56:55.960 morning at Grace Point whenever, uh, cause I talked on John chapter one, verse 17, or it's

01:57:01.000 like through Moses, the law was given, but grace and truth, grace and truth are realized through

01:57:05.460 Jesus Christ. And the cool thing is like the law was able to inform you, but only the grace and

01:57:11.000 truth of Jesus Christ can transform you. It's no different than all the knowledge in here,

01:57:14.680 like this can inform you, but only the Bible has the power to transform you. And so if we're,

01:57:18.900 if we're consistent and complacent, a closed Bible slowly convinces that it's soul, the soul,

01:57:24.020 that it's self-sufficient. And we, we need this Bible opened if, especially if we want to hear

01:57:30.000 from God and live into the calling that he has for us. And so this book is probably my biggest

01:57:36.480 project I've ever done. I just showed you like the whole Eden thing and even church planning.

01:57:40.600 And like there was a time whenever I was working at that church that was my actual like job.

01:57:45.120 And then my ministry, which is what I would call it, we were church planning. I was probably

01:57:48.640 working 70 hours a week, man. And I think I put more effort into trying to get this,

01:57:53.180 how the Lord wanted it than whenever I was working then. And so this is kind of like the layout of

01:57:58.340 how I want it to be. I call it a spiritual roadmap, you know, kind of like Jacob's ladder.

01:58:01.940 If you're going up and it ends at the commission, we're all commissioned to go and make disciples,

01:58:06.380 baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to obey everything

01:58:09.000 I've commanded you. And surely I'm with you always to the very ends of the age. It's a great

01:58:11.960 commission in Matthew chapter 28, 19 through 20. And so you go from the title, it just kind of

01:58:17.120 tells you like, Hey, this is what we're actually going to be talking about. It shows you the main

01:58:20.100 text. And I have in here the session start. So it like, what you want to do is you want to include

01:58:25.840 to everybody depending on how big your group actually is like last night that was a really

01:58:29.820 big group i don't know if you'd be able to do that if you broke up but you could so it and also just

01:58:35.220 you have to be pliable you have to be able to adapt but everything is here you don't need to

01:58:40.720 like stress or anything so start the group with highs and lows like what's a good part of your

01:58:44.740 week and what's a bad part because you want people to be engaged you want people to be like i'm not

01:58:47.900 just being here to be taught i'm here to be shepherded you know and then i have today we're

01:58:52.520 going to be talking about full submission what does it mean to love the lord your god with all

01:58:55.640 your heart, mind, soul, and strength? What does that look like? Well, the question that I have

01:58:59.200 after your highs and lows is, when have you felt most peace, surrendering, control? Everything in

01:59:05.980 here is one seamless message of full submission, and it carries all the way throughout. So then

01:59:11.700 we'll get to the reflection. The reflection is essentially what people would look at as the

01:59:16.520 sermon or the meat of the actual session. Next, you go to the foundational scripture,

01:59:22.420 and that's going to narrow our focus and that's going to help us root ourself in God's word.

01:59:27.520 We're not just going to listen to my interpretation. We're going to look at why I got that

01:59:30.780 interpretation and we're going to go to God's word because nothing else matters. And if we

01:59:34.360 can't anchor in God's word, after that, I'm going to go into key insights. That's the stuff that

01:59:38.300 modern day pastors today would put up on their projectors. They would say like, Hey, this is

01:59:42.500 what I want you to write down. This is the important part. And in that I will help shape

01:59:46.240 the understanding. And then we'll go into the group discussion because everybody needs to

01:59:50.020 participate this is that we serve a church of the living god we serve the living god so church to

01:59:54.160 be alive it's kind of only there where it becomes real too right like once people start talking

01:59:57.760 about it because if they miss something from step one two three four or five and you lost them they

02:00:04.340 got to be able to bring it up in step six that's right and they go okay now i'm tracking and the

02:00:08.200 cool thing is that it's in the middle too so you won't get those people who are just like dozing

02:00:11.660 off like it's gonna it's gonna involve an involvement um and so next is the kingdom

02:00:16.920 perspective and this is the part where i take all the information from the previous six steps and i

02:00:22.200 put it into like one paragraph that you can just chew on and it's simply like what does heaven view

02:00:28.040 on this subject how does heaven view full submission of all the faculties of your body

02:00:32.840 and so the next is a closing prayer points it's an opportunity for people to offer a prayer request

02:00:38.360 it's an opportunity and i also have like guided prayer points in there saying like um like pray

02:00:43.480 Pray for wisdom.

02:00:44.200 Pray for the knowledge and understanding of how to fully submit.

02:00:47.600 Like I have stuff that are all catered to this message in the very end is the commission.

02:00:51.460 It's like, all right, cool.

02:00:52.280 All this is awesome.

02:00:54.060 But Faith Without Works is dead.

02:00:55.260 How do I go and I live this out?

02:00:56.340 Here's the application.

02:00:57.520 Boom.

02:00:57.980 Yeah.

02:00:58.180 And so I actually sent in a session.

02:01:03.180 If y'all want to go through it, we can skim through it.

02:01:05.060 We don't have to do the whole thing.

02:01:06.420 Let's go.

02:01:07.600 And it should be session 13.

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02:03:41.000 And like I said, it's about full submission,

02:03:42.800 and it's in Mark 12, verse 30,

02:03:46.920 and that is love the Lord your God

02:03:48.660 with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength,

02:03:50.860 and just what it looks like in doing that.

02:03:54.580 And we hear that all the time.

02:03:56.680 Oh, I love that you're going to unpack that.

02:03:59.000 Cause that, cause I always, I always heard people say that, well, yeah, I'm doing this

02:04:02.500 or that, but I love God with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength.

02:04:04.600 And I remember years ago being like, wait, what does that mean?

02:04:07.080 What does that know?

02:04:07.840 Well, I remember being like, what does that look like?

02:04:09.920 What do you mean?

02:04:10.240 Like your life looks just like everybody else, but you love God with all your heart, mind,

02:04:13.960 soul, and strength.

02:04:14.460 I don't think so, man.

02:04:15.520 Yeah.

02:04:15.840 Like, like what exactly does that look like?

02:04:18.660 Does it look exactly the same as a normal person who spends all their life with their

02:04:22.620 job their money this run to that baseball game and this football game and doing this and doing

02:04:28.160 that and the way i engage with people and maybe i'm going to stiff somebody out of a little money

02:04:31.780 over here maybe i'm going to be nasty the lady in the grocery store over there and maybe i'm going

02:04:35.760 to do this at the gas station like i don't know man i think if you love god with all your heart

02:04:39.680 mind soul and strength all those interactions are different yeah no and that's exactly what

02:04:45.220 we'll break down um hopefully the format doesn't get all wonky because this is a microsoft word

02:04:50.140 and uh i probably need to put it over on pages but the cool thing is it's all seamless so like

02:04:56.560 i said all you have to do is just read it like a book you don't have to do anything different and

02:05:02.120 like you could facilitate this right now if you wanted to so rory do it is it simple enough that

02:05:07.840 rory could figure it out rory could do it okay she said no all right so for example uh

02:05:18.000 matt what was the high and low of your week man like what was a really good part what was a really

02:05:23.100 bad part is it tuesday tuesday um this whole situation dude yeah two shows today this is

02:05:29.740 the high of my week like the whole we went hard in the bible study earlier bringing you on

02:05:36.480 i don't know though last night was kind of a high too bro that was really good and i don't know me

02:05:42.540 sunday me and jess had like a super good beach day i don't know i've been i've been having like

02:05:47.440 a lot of good this week.

02:05:49.420 And then a low, which is a bad part

02:05:51.400 of the week.

02:05:53.080 The Raven was nasty to me yesterday.

02:05:56.880 No, I'm just kidding. I love the Raven.

02:05:59.760 I don't know.

02:06:01.920 Trump's going to Aiden's school

02:06:03.640 on Friday.

02:06:06.020 He's got that notice.

02:06:07.680 And then I'm like, is Aiden going to cut class?

02:06:09.620 Am I going to get some notice about

02:06:11.380 Aiden? I don't have a bad

02:06:13.360 thing this week, dude.

02:06:14.360 He could bleed into last week.

02:06:17.440 um because the whole premise of this is it's supposed to be each session is a weekly curriculum

02:06:23.200 so this is like if you meet once a week i haven't been having any bad dude no a month ago i had some

02:06:30.120 bad but um well dude we'll praise god for that i don't you don't have to have a bad i don't think

02:06:36.640 i do i'm saying i mean i have hard stuff like my job is hard farm work has been hard lately but

02:06:41.320 it's been very satisfying but the bad stuff i don't know like everything's good right now

02:06:49.340 praise god praise god and when have you felt most peace at or first most at peace surrendering

02:06:56.440 control and what did it teach you about god's faithfulness ever yeah um well i talked about

02:07:04.340 a little bit last night like i remember i don't remember exactly the time period but i remember

02:07:08.720 this word obedience and like if you were like at the therapist and they were doing the flashcards

02:07:13.760 and they were like what do you think when you see this you know and they said like and it said like

02:07:17.780 obedience i would be like oh a ball and chain or if you showed me a ball and chain i would think

02:07:21.980 like obedience i think like oh no dude i don't obey anybody i do whatever i want but uh i remember

02:07:28.440 being like all right god i'm gonna i'll like be a christian and then if my life is like corny and

02:07:34.640 lame it'll be your fault and he was like deal i remember you saying that's all i've been waiting

02:07:40.240 he's like that's all i've been waiting for shake on it i love that man yeah and then i've never

02:07:44.140 dude and my life got so much cooler since then which i never thought i was so afraid to be like 0.97

02:07:49.220 a lame boring christian with like a stupid lame boring life and i was just like duped i don't 0.97

02:07:55.380 know i must have got that idea from the culture i didn't get that idea from the bible you know 0.99

02:08:00.940 like as soon as i got right with god like the adventure just got just multiplied yeah man

02:08:07.340 no that's awesome and you do have a pretty good life i do bro i wouldn't i wouldn't change

02:08:12.440 anything man amen i wouldn't change it for you so next you go into the once everybody has pretty

02:08:19.280 much done that had a chance to share daniel do you want to share anything i'm good all right

02:08:23.940 uh for me you can't call him daniel on the show oh you can't yeah that's only it's very specific

02:08:30.160 when he's like danny he's very kind yeah yeah top or mr nasty there's three levels there's yeah

02:08:36.160 there's danny tablobson mr nasty so on the show what we're doing bible theme show so he's top 0.65

02:08:41.920 he's not mr nasty but oh yeah we're good right now um so essentially that's how it works everybody

02:08:48.320 would get an opportunity to share and then you'd go into your title your theme like all right this

02:08:52.160 today we're gonna be talking about full submission what that looks like if your bible is going to

02:08:55.040 open with mark 12 30 and then you can go and scroll down um and then you just jump straight

02:09:00.660 into the text and it's gonna we can either read through it um or we can i can just pick apart

02:09:08.480 some things um but it's it's catered to where it's kind of like a book so it's like what are

02:09:14.060 some of those life's richest moments that we can experience depending on your background hobbies

02:09:18.080 and interests they can all vary maybe looking up at the sky on a clear night and seeing nothing

02:09:22.220 but stars achieving a long-term goal or getting to hold your child for the first time that first

02:09:26.380 sip of coffee in the morning or one of my personal favorites rain on a tin roof have you ever wondered

02:09:30.580 where those desires come from these things create almost a sense of joy in our lives because they

02:09:35.200 appeal to the emotional database called our souls the well-known yet rarely talked about part of you

02:09:39.940 that we all see throughout the bible the soul which is yet simultaneously integrated and segmented

02:09:45.000 from the heart mind and spirit at the same time confusing i know there is a difference here though

02:09:49.620 between the soul and the spirit and we can say the soul within us is what drives us an invisible

02:09:54.980 yet tangible force that always searching for something to give its shape something to try

02:09:59.060 and find that shape and money success sex or substances but but for those who find it in

02:10:04.020 jesus the soul doesn't just take shape it finally finds a rest the magnetic force of your identity

02:10:09.540 and then i break down in the next one like the the exegesis of what the spirit actually is and

02:10:13.860 then what the soul is so like the spirit the ruach in in hebrew or numa in greek refers to god

02:10:19.380 breathed capacity and humanity that relates directly to god it's it's the seat of god's

02:10:24.020 consciousness and divine communion humanity begins living when god breathed into adam and

02:10:29.380 scripture consistently locates worship revelation regeneration in the spirit the spirit is where the

02:10:34.660 holy spirit bears witness convicts and regenerates and leads it is oriented upward towards god so

02:10:40.660 when our spirit is what connects us to god so think about if you're looking at the cross man

02:10:46.340 think about the vertical portion of the cross as our spirit and the horizontal is our soul

02:10:52.020 so the next one i'll break down that's good bro it it is different right because like in

02:10:56.740 the thessalonian letter he talks about us being sanctified in spirit soul and body right and then

02:11:01.380 even like david um he taught he says like bless the lord oh my soul like i feel like people sing

02:11:06.900 that in church right again that's his spirit telling his soul what to do and like in daniel

02:11:11.340 it says that he had an excellent spirit but what it's saying is he had a preeminent spirit like

02:11:16.240 his spirit was the preeminent was the was the main part of him yeah it was the thing in him

02:11:20.820 that was dictating to the rest of his being what to do it didn't mean he had like a really good

02:11:25.860 spirit but yeah there's a lot of people that just make the spirit and the soul the same thing bro

02:11:30.180 yeah and they're they're vastly different yeah i mean even if you uh look at the soul part uh

02:11:35.740 The soul, nephesh, in the Greek psyche, on the other hand, it refers to the animating life of the person, the self as a living being with emphasis on mind, will, and emotions and personal identity.

02:11:46.560 Genesis 2-7 calls Adam a living soul. 0.96

02:11:49.640 When the spirit was breathed into that dirt man. 0.94

02:11:51.820 Yeah. 1.00

02:11:52.040 Amen.

02:11:52.660 And it indicates the whole conscious person.

02:11:55.380 And scripture locates thoughts, emotions, desires, and decision making in the soul.

02:11:59.260 Those are the scriptures, of course.

02:12:00.980 And the soul is the sheet.

02:12:02.540 Decision making.

02:12:02.900 Sorry to keep cutting you off, but that's it, dude.

02:12:05.080 like that's what the soul the soul is the decision maker man that's right and the soul is the seat

02:12:10.000 of personality and moral choice in the arena of sanctification and renewal so what is the

02:12:14.520 distinction and the function together hebrews 4 12 and this is where it completely separates spirit

02:12:20.020 and soul is because that's what the lord's word can separate extinguish or it distinguishes soul

02:12:25.500 and spirit showing that they are closely integrated yet functionally distinct the spirit perceives and

02:12:29.680 communes with god and the soul processes expresses and acts upon that life throughout thought

02:12:34.480 emotion and will the spirit gives life and direction from god while the soul gives expression

02:12:38.960 and response and lived human experience the spirit's focus is god-oriented regenerated

02:12:44.080 discerning divine truth while the soul focuses on self-oriented expressive choosing and being

02:12:49.200 transformed both are meant to be unified under the lordship of christ and that is where we go to

02:12:54.480 uh our text and um before we go any any further because i don't know who all can see this and who

02:13:01.040 all can't see or maybe people are listening on audio or whatever i don't know exactly what the

02:13:04.640 format's going to be but like all of these everything we just read is covered in scripture

02:13:10.120 references and parentheses like like every page we just went through has i don't know eight or

02:13:14.980 nine or ten scripture references which is like it which is i don't know to some people maybe they

02:13:19.560 don't care but sometimes like when people bring me a book i'll flip through it real quick and if

02:13:23.860 it doesn't have any of that references man yeah i'm just i don't even read it bro like there was

02:13:27.800 this book that they said was cool from this catholic dude a couple years ago the matthew

02:13:32.300 kelly i think his name was well and it was like a really popular book that people were reading and

02:13:37.300 it was somehow coming under the name of christ you know went like this there wasn't one scripture

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02:16:21.800 A bit of, it was a total waste of time. Yeah.

02:16:24.400 It was a total waste of time.

02:16:25.220 It's like reading a Jordan Peterson book. It's fine, but missing.

02:16:29.660 Yeah. Yeah. And you know, the crazy thing is like, speaking of that,

02:16:34.420 it's just like the it's i don't base my opinion excuse me i don't base god's word on my opinion

02:16:42.300 i base my opinion on god's word amen and so everything that i'm getting from this book

02:16:46.660 the references is what i built it around as a matter of fact the one of the key steps that

02:16:52.500 we were talking about is it's foundational scripture and i and i put in preface here

02:16:57.180 that this does not supplement the bible this is like i don't care if this book ever sells a copy

02:17:01.900 if it promotes the Bible and people go buy the Bible.

02:17:04.620 That's what I want is like,

02:17:05.920 because you need the word of God.

02:17:07.780 You need the word of God.

02:17:09.120 And going back to the text, you'll see, like you said,

02:17:12.500 I don't know if you can,

02:17:13.820 if whoever's watching the screen with us

02:17:15.900 and reading along with us,

02:17:17.240 but there is scripture references everywhere in here.

02:17:20.080 And that's what I want for people to feel empowered

02:17:22.920 that they can say this stuff

02:17:24.200 because of the scripture references

02:17:25.620 that are aiding the claim.

02:17:27.140 And not only that, not only just from this text,

02:17:29.920 all the scripture that's being used is listed below in the lower sections where it says foundational

02:17:35.960 scripture and we're actually going to get to there let's go um so it says you shall love the

02:17:40.060 lord your god with all your heart with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your

02:17:43.120 strength and he is naming the faculties of the human person that must actively be yielded then

02:17:49.480 in covenant love and obedience so the the thing that i want to yeah keep going down a little bit

02:17:54.200 more mr nasty all right wait go back up a little bit so this is going to be the faculties that we

02:18:05.120 have to actively yield and i break down exactly what it's calling in their scripture reference

02:18:09.840 for each one the heart is our desires affections and moral centers the soul is will emotions and

02:18:15.060 identity the mind is reasoning and understanding and interpretation and the strength is the embodied

02:18:19.760 action energy and obedience lived out these are all faculties that we have that we now have to

02:18:25.600 bring into submission and make jesus lord amen so it is the spirit that is in constant communion

02:18:30.720 notice how he doesn't say that we have to yield our spirit why because the spirit is given by god

02:18:35.680 and the one who is one in spirit or excuse me the one who's unified in spirit with god is one with

02:18:39.600 him amen so that is exactly what's being portrayed here and there is a whole breakdown and i won't

02:18:44.480 like continue uh breaking it down right right but you're but so like walk in the spirit so that you

02:18:49.680 don't fulfill the lust of the flesh because the spirit and the flesh are always at war against

02:18:53.760 one another you're saying that like the spirit is already good yes man it's just that it's

02:18:58.160 everything else that has to be surrendered amen that is where our that is where our cross comes

02:19:02.640 from man that's where we are called to carry it it's that daily yielding and choosing to abide

02:19:07.360 so and there's my verse again the spirit uh is testifying that we are children of god

02:19:12.240 and in that moment see it presents the human spirit as the place god claims and indwells

02:19:17.920 and regeneration in that moment whenever I was sharing in my testimony that that was when God

02:19:22.500 claimed me. That was whenever I became a child of God is whenever I was born again. You know,

02:19:27.380 Jesus would just show distinction between your other, like there is no like, um, there is no

02:19:33.800 Baptist or Methodist or Catholic or anything like that. You're either a believer or you're not,

02:19:37.660 you're either a child of God or not. Like there is no, cause the devil owns the other side of

02:19:42.600 the fence and the fence. So if you're not all the friendship, but the world is enmity with God,

02:19:48.500 you, you can't have both. And you get one, you know, man can serve two masters, right?

02:19:53.700 So this is a complete breakdown of each topic that I want to talk about. And this is kind of

02:20:00.080 how it rolls throughout. So if we can keep scrolling down to that next section, there

02:20:04.780 might be one more breakout point that I have. Um, it shouldn't be, there we go. Um,

02:20:12.600 The spirit is made alive by God, sealed by God, and belongs to God in the way that the soul does not automatically obey.

02:20:18.420 And this is where Scripture speaks of renewing the mind, purifying the soul, disciplining the body, and the work is God.

02:20:23.360 This is good, dude.

02:20:24.420 This is like a high-level study, bro.

02:20:28.200 This is good.

02:20:29.680 This is the most work I've—I appreciate that, man.

02:20:32.060 This is the most work that I've put into something.

02:20:34.840 But it seems like it's set up in a way that, yeah, the common man can do this.

02:20:39.700 that the common man can hold a bible study and maybe everybody in the crowd is like bro wait

02:20:44.720 what he's like well i don't know let's just go read the passages you know what i mean because

02:20:48.120 it comes with all the passages yeah so so you're setting it up in a way where it's like okay yeah

02:20:52.160 wait a minute now that he said that and i'm looking at i'm reading romans 12 2 reading 1

02:20:57.080 peter 1 22 like yeah okay this kind of makes sense now i see what he's saying this is good

02:21:02.120 and if we can just keep scrolling down we'll get past the reflection part and we can go all the

02:21:07.240 way down to uh where it says foundational scripture it'll be in the next section oh man i

02:21:14.580 got the the order backwards on this one but uh so this is yeah keep going down this should be

02:21:21.180 those two the key insights and the foundational scripture should be flopped so here we go

02:21:24.680 so every scripture reference that i used in that entire reflection is now listed right here

02:21:30.120 so you don't even have to run to the bible like if you don't have a bible you can read this and

02:21:34.860 yeah i mean that helps people because if they're brand new especially they don't you know flipping

02:21:39.520 through finding these passages is a little tough we want them to be able to do that as time goes on

02:21:44.540 but i mean this is just a one-stop resource then you're saying you can just reference it right here

02:21:48.580 absolutely and so every single scripture that was referenced in that reflection is now put here so

02:21:54.700 you can go to mark 12 30 where we started romans 8 16 and it's in descending order so what we

02:21:59.500 started at the top it goes in order and everything not my claim these verses are not to support my

02:22:06.440 claim this is what i put was to give this modern application so the rant so that anybody could just

02:22:14.700 digest the word of god and like you said it's a one-stop resource so now that we have gone through

02:22:20.720 the foundational scripture uh can we scroll back up to where the those key insights were yeah so

02:22:26.040 So this is like the things in bold would be like my takeaway points.

02:22:30.220 Like, hey, I want you to write this down in your Bible somewhere.

02:22:33.260 The spirit is already God's.

02:22:34.440 Now the soul must follow it.

02:22:35.440 Well, what does that mean?

02:22:36.300 Your spirit has been regenerated by God, Romans 8, 16.

02:22:39.320 Submission is about bringing your will, emotions, identity, and desires into alignment.

02:22:43.100 So the whole process is to funnel it to that commission to where people have no confusion about how to go out there and live it out.

02:22:50.740 so if we can keep scrolling down some go past the foundational scriptures

02:22:55.720 and once we get after that we're going to enter into the group discussion so these are going to

02:23:01.420 be the facilitating questions you don't even have to think about it all you're going to do is read

02:23:04.220 it everybody has gone through the reflection everybody has gone through um i like the little

02:23:09.540 notes too man this is the most so it says how is your soul this is the most important question in

02:23:13.640 the list so don't be afraid to park and allow people room to speak yeah it's all right if

02:23:17.640 there's a little quiet time yeah man because i mean you may have i mean he left the 99 for the

02:23:23.460 one what if we have that one in here he's just an absolute wreck and all we need to do is come

02:23:27.900 around that one person and support them so like none of this matters unless the holy spirit moves

02:23:33.440 and if the holy spirit is moving on one person you know if all of heaven takes time to rejoice

02:23:37.720 we should too and all of these questions it just goes down and it's it's just causing uh like how

02:23:45.240 can you discern when your soul is resisting the spirit? Like, how do you, how does, like, when

02:23:49.880 the spirit is leading, how do you know if it's your flesh? Well, typically I look at the what

02:23:54.060 ifs, you know, faith says, even if fear says, what if, if my, if my flesh is going, what if I'm not

02:24:00.620 gonna, what if this book isn't going to be successful? What if nobody buys it? I was like,

02:24:05.140 man, you know what? Faith says, God told you to do it. Who cares? Right. So, you know, how do I

02:24:10.840 get the flesh out of the way for the spirit to lead it's by submitting to god's word trusting

02:24:16.040 in his character and after these questions it should go into a kingdom perspective

02:24:25.480 yeah there we go so everything we've talked about the scripture the reflection the questions

02:24:30.280 everything is summarized right here in one paragraph and it says from heaven's view

02:24:34.600 partial obedience is still disobedience full submission is not optional it is the conduit

02:24:40.040 through which God's kingdom manifests on earth.

02:24:42.920 A life partially yielded produces partial fruit.

02:24:45.640 A life fully surrendered bears abundance in love, wisdom, and influence.

02:24:49.520 God does not ask for fragments.

02:24:51.120 He desires the whole person in alignment with his purposes.

02:24:54.400 Submission integrates spirit, soul, mind, heart, and strength

02:24:58.080 so that your life becomes a living temple,

02:25:00.660 a place where God's presence is tangible,

02:25:02.680 his authority is unquestioned, and his will is enacted.

02:25:05.680 When believers yield completely, they carry kingdom wherever they go.

02:25:09.020 in speech, your heart, relationships, your soul,

02:25:12.160 decisions, your mind, and service, your strength.

02:25:15.120 This is good, dude.

02:25:16.660 This is really good, bro.

02:25:18.220 Thanks, man.

02:25:18.820 Yeah, you could give this to like, like Top Sam, man.

02:25:21.580 There's tons of people that are coming in

02:25:23.520 in the comments saying, man, I'm ready to do this.

02:25:25.560 I'm ready to get a Bible study going.

02:25:26.980 I want to get it going in my home.

02:25:28.620 I don't know where to start.

02:25:29.560 This is a great resource, dude.

02:25:31.340 And it's good.

02:25:32.160 This isn't like wanker stuff.

02:25:33.680 It isn't like the stuff you'd see.

02:25:35.760 This is like, oh, la, la, la.

02:25:37.180 Like this is good, heavy hitting points.

02:25:39.020 dude like thought-provoking heart-searching discussions dude thanks man that's loaded

02:25:44.000 with scripture yeah like what a great way to get the scripture in people's spirit to like get it

02:25:48.340 in their heart and get it in their being to do it through uh an activity like this with people

02:25:53.700 this is just a really good way to do this dude i'm really i'm really expecting on what the lord

02:26:00.140 can do with it because it's you can take it to a coffee shop you can take it here man yeah and you

02:26:04.300 like someone can have this book and we'll make sure that some of them get into the library

02:26:07.960 and uh wait so you're gonna do like are you gonna like a hardback or paperback book it's an actual

02:26:12.600 book yeah it'll like sell on amazon or it's like a physical book yeah so i just printed out my first

02:26:18.080 manuscript yesterday so so there's some fine tuning but it's going to be a book book correct

02:26:23.020 yeah this is going to be a book that can go into hopefully this is what i wanted it to do it was

02:26:27.320 supposed to be a roadmap to the savior's heart in the believer's home that's what so that's what i

02:26:32.980 wanted it to get into people's houses so like if you're eating dinner with your family you're you're

02:26:37.720 your dad or your mom or your daughter your son can open this book and they can facilitate a

02:26:44.040 fruitful discussion at the dinner table at the coffee shop at the park i love that at the airport

02:26:48.520 we don't have any dudes want to do that in their household and they just don't know what to do so

02:26:52.920 they're just kind of paralyzed yeah man this is the idea of scale um so how do you scale the church

02:26:59.240 without it becoming mcdonald's right and what you're doing here is uh you're scaling the church

02:27:05.800 for lack of better words uh but into tiny like a bunch of like tiny churches yeah yeah millions

02:27:12.440 of tiny churches that's the way you scale without losing quality and you can't lose quality when

02:27:17.960 you're talking about the bible so then this is it hey it's a it's a good attempt i'm let's see how

02:27:22.840 it works out yeah so what so what does that look like now do you like nowadays like how long does

02:27:27.560 it take to like publish a book then is it like super quick like you just turn this into somebody

02:27:32.040 and then they can print it off like big books like quick well man i actually met with a publisher

02:27:37.000 um two weeks ago and they wanted 19 grand to get it published and i was like i will etch this thing

02:27:42.200 in a leaf before yeah wait but just getting books printed you have to go through a publisher for

02:27:48.440 that is that what a publisher is you don't have to it kind of have editorials they have uh uh cover

02:27:55.080 design they have copyrights they have like uh people who make sure that it flows correctly and

02:28:00.200 stuff like that who do the inner workings it's all like administrative stuff but i've really done

02:28:04.440 that already like that's like this is almost i'd say 90 done so you just need to find a book printer

02:28:10.840 yeah pretty much and actually that uh the guy that i introduced you to today he gave me a card for a

02:28:17.000 local publisher who prints it off and so i'm going to check him out and printed this manuscript off

02:28:22.440 yesterday and like i said it's about 90 done so i say within the month uh this will be um

02:28:27.960 um, ready to publish and get people's hands. And we're going to try and self publish through

02:28:32.520 Amazon. So you'll be able to order it on that. And I believe that there is a format, um, that

02:28:36.740 I have to put it in and then you can get it on Kindle. So it'll be available to get it on your

02:28:43.220 phone. If you don't want to get the paper copy, you get it on your phone. Everybody's got a phone

02:28:46.680 and everybody's got people that you can talk to. So now there is no reason for church not to go

02:28:51.960 with you anywhere and everywhere. I really liked the one for the dads, dude. I really like that

02:28:57.340 because i really do think a lot of dads are paralyzed they're like yeah i want to do it in

02:29:01.100 the house but i don't really know what to do and so i'll just watch the tv shows instead well i mean

02:29:05.900 even going back to what we originally talking about just like the pressure on men today yeah

02:29:09.900 and like this is a huge opportunity to step up and be the leader of your household that god has

02:29:14.460 called us to be and no condemnation i mean if you don't know much about the bible this is an

02:29:20.380 excellent resource you know you're loving somebody the best you possibly can is probably going to be

02:29:25.740 some of the most holy work you do all week loving somebody the best you can exactly where they are

02:29:30.460 for who they are might be the most holy work you do all week i can use this as my kids are getting

02:29:35.500 to the age the age where like legitimate bible studies are going to be something that they need

02:29:40.860 yeah right now i'm getting away with what i can do but yeah this is it's a it's a tool excellent

02:29:46.620 tool they won't listen to me tops kids they'll just start punching me and fighting and if i

02:29:51.100 i punch him back they start crying so it's a touchy subject i popped his son right in the

02:29:55.820 face the other day dude he was weeping no it took him like 10 second delay was the longest delay

02:30:01.100 like i was punching and he was bobbing and weaving and fell right into it he fell right into a face

02:30:05.980 punch he rips my kid's teeth and uh he looked at me he looked at me for like 10 seconds and it was

02:30:13.020 like his feelings were hurt dude as the 10 seconds went and he was like it was like yeah he won't

02:30:19.740 listen to me about reverse punch that's so funny man but no i'm i really that's what i want is i

02:30:26.860 want the the power of scripture not to be left on the pulpit but i want it to be put in the

02:30:31.180 believer's home amen and you know if that well really husbands and dads you know your ministry

02:30:37.880 is your family first amen bro regardless of anything else like even even if you're a pastor

02:30:43.300 at a church on sunday and you have a brick and mortar and there's nothing wrong with that like

02:30:47.000 your wife is your first ministry, then it's your children, and then, well, really, it's the Lord

02:30:52.180 first, then it's your wife, and then it's your children, and it's your family, and then it's

02:30:55.780 everything else. Yeah, this passage is in Ephesians 5. It talks about, starting in verse 21,

02:31:04.000 submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own

02:31:08.240 husbands as unto the Lord, for the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of 0.85

02:31:12.700 the church and he is the savior of the body therefore as the church is subject under christ 0.63

02:31:17.480 so let the wives be to their own husbands and everything that's cool but you can't stop right

02:31:22.340 there right husbands love your wives even as christ also loved the church and gave himself for

02:31:27.000 it and this is the point i'm getting at verse 26 that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the

02:31:32.280 washing of water by the word right and so if christ did that for the church and the husband

02:31:37.300 is to the wife what christ is to the church and we're supposed to be washing her with the water

02:31:41.360 of the word and by implication i would say the children too right and so we've lost this thing

02:31:46.100 where the dad and the husband leads the bible study in the home a lot of times you see it's

02:31:50.800 the female doing it you know because the male is kind of checked out he thinks the church is fake 0.65

02:31:55.040 and corny he doesn't really get down with it but the wife you know the women are able to kind of

02:31:59.580 hang in there with it even though they kind of acknowledge this is a little corny but they hang

02:32:03.260 in there but it's the dude's responsibility man and this is a huge tool to give to the man to

02:32:09.000 And that's, that's, that's what I, that's what, that's really what I want.

02:32:12.200 And that's exactly where Eden started was that conviction.

02:32:15.320 It was like, society is the way it is.

02:32:16.840 Cause men forgot how to be men.

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02:34:49.080 Yeah, that's how that church plant started.

02:34:51.900 That's how that beach outreach started.

02:34:53.220 and it was simply just because like where has where have the men of god well the feminization

02:34:59.060 of the church people are in a pinch dude if they're not if they're uh not bible literate

02:35:04.180 they just know that the way to god is to go through the 501c3 system and you show up and

02:35:08.400 watch the show on sunday dude that's a super feminized system now man so it's not really

02:35:13.180 going to cultivate rough dudes like we find in the bible so i don't know i i love this i love

02:35:18.620 what you're doing dude and so now we're at the very end and like i said the whole point was to

02:35:24.480 funnel into or almost shepherd into action the commission so um oh no sorry we're at the closing

02:35:33.120 prayer points so this is like what it looks like you pray or you break up into pairs so like if

02:35:37.360 you have a big group like last night i'd say hey guys with guys girls with girls break up into

02:35:42.340 groups of two or three and i want you guys just to go lay hands on each other and pray for whatever

02:35:46.220 they're struggling with because can girls do this too yeah all girl uh can they take a lesson from

02:35:52.400 here and just do it on their own or is it like gender specific no like everything is is like

02:35:56.900 is neutral it's fluid and so this is like that's why i preface here same gender uh meaning like i

02:36:03.580 it's you're just saying you don't want women to be doing this study over males no i'm saying that

02:36:09.320 uh that there are women that do their own bible studies so are you saying like is there uh like

02:36:16.000 curriculum specific things in here that are catered to men and catered to women no like

02:36:21.240 everything in here is just neutral and uh there's no like i i mean there is a i do talk about like

02:36:28.060 hard topics like uh abortion and homosexuality like things that the bible does talk about and

02:36:34.740 address and that people shy away from so i do talk about that stuff um that's a weird one the sex

02:36:41.120 thing especially is like the church people like we're not going to talk about it it's like okay

02:36:44.340 no problem. Then you're just going to let the world explain to your kids about sex. Like you

02:36:48.640 got to talk about it. Yeah. But no, to answer your question there, everything in here is,

02:36:53.560 is neutral. So you can read it and it's not catered to a specific sex. It's catered to the

02:36:59.040 people of God. Okay. I'm buzzing on this concept a little bit right now. And it's kind of coming

02:37:04.340 all back around in Deuteronomy six. We just read it on straight Bible in verse five. It says,

02:37:09.300 you shall love the Lord, your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your might.

02:37:12.300 As far as I know, this is the first reference to this in the Bible.

02:37:15.380 And then it comes straight behind that saying,

02:37:18.460 and these words, which I command you this day shall be in your heart

02:37:21.200 and you shall teach them diligently unto your children

02:37:23.720 and shall talk of them when you sit in your house

02:37:25.800 and when you walk by the way and when you lie down

02:37:28.620 and when you rise up and you shall bind them for a sign upon your hand

02:37:32.220 and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes

02:37:34.300 and you shall write them upon the posts of your house and on your gates.

02:37:37.580 Man.

02:37:38.920 Yeah, man.

02:37:39.960 Man.

02:37:40.520 That's everything you're saying.

02:37:42.020 i didn't even correlate that last part i didn't either until right there i was like wait a minute

02:37:46.180 man i was thinking about that ephesians passage and then i was thinking about this passage i'm

02:37:49.460 saying this is this is all of this dude god has enveloped the whole thing it's just i don't know

02:37:55.460 dude i think it's a rad resource man it's gonna be awesome so like even another thing is like

02:38:01.060 you don't even have to worry about um having the knowledge to teach because it's provided

02:38:06.340 for you you don't have to have the knowledge or you don't have to have the personality to

02:38:09.540 to figure out which questions to ask because it's already given to you you don't have to worry about

02:38:13.020 what to pray for because it's already provided for you here and the whole point of what i what

02:38:16.920 i was saying was same gender was like you know if there is a girl who is going through a hard time

02:38:22.200 it's probably going to be best that another girl can relate to her right right it was like

02:38:26.920 oh bravado let me pray for you like you just need to be tougher and she's like no i just need god

02:38:32.240 to hold me or he tries to make a move on her when she's down and out there's always that yeah so

02:38:36.900 So like in this, for instance, pray for a deeper whole person surrender to God in heart, soul, mind, and strength.

02:38:42.860 Let's ask God to reveal areas of resistance in our soul and mind.

02:38:46.600 Let's pray for alignment between your regenerated spirit and daily choices.

02:38:50.240 Let's ask for peace and rest in yielding your desires and ambitions to God.

02:38:54.400 So everything in these lessons are catered to the one theme that's found in the title.

02:39:00.380 Like it is, everything is catered.

02:39:02.020 And if you keep going down, now we get, once we finish praying and everybody's needs have

02:39:06.920 been addressed, we're like, how do we leave this place and live it out?

02:39:10.060 Yeah.

02:39:10.500 And that's, that's where we get the commission.

02:39:12.480 And I think that I know there's people that say, well, there's a danger in like common

02:39:16.680 people leading a Bible study that aren't trained in the Bible.

02:39:19.280 But I just think this, uh, what you're doing facilitates a conversation.

02:39:24.780 You know what I mean?

02:39:25.660 Like it, like it gives you enough information to facilitate a conversation for people to

02:39:29.260 talk about it.

02:39:30.020 That's it.

02:39:30.360 And, and I think it's just healthy to, I know Todd likes to make fun of me for this, but

02:39:34.400 it's healthy to say sometimes, I don't know.

02:39:36.560 I don't know.

02:39:36.840 Like this is what scripture says.

02:39:38.000 Well, what do you think about it then?

02:39:39.020 I don't know.

02:39:39.600 I really don't know what to make of that to be fully honest.

02:39:42.340 I mean, I would tie that passage with this, this, this, and this, but in the end, man,

02:39:45.540 I'm not sure there's still some mysteries in this book, man.

02:39:48.300 And God's still got some tricks up his sleeve that I may not fully comprehend, but if we

02:39:52.140 can at least facilitate the conversation and we can get this going among people, and then

02:39:56.580 we can all as a group, maybe dig into it more.

02:39:58.920 so we do this group on a tuesday night but maybe on wednesday and thursday we're in that text thread

02:40:03.160 with each other saying hey dude i was thinking about that thing we were talking about on tuesday

02:40:06.600 night did you ever know this or remind me of this story when this happened or i read this passage

02:40:11.160 the other day and just facilitates this where we just talk about things pertaining to the kingdom

02:40:15.880 of god instead of just talking about facebook and tv shows amen no absolutely yeah it's just kind of

02:40:21.560 like let's move past the rudimentary elementary small talk yeah like let's get into the nitty

02:40:27.480 gritty let's ask yo how's your soul man that was frustrating for me bro when we would when we would

02:40:32.040 separate into small groups after church you do the church thing and then you do the small groups

02:40:36.040 later and then it was like they would do a study that was based on the sermon that day but it was

02:40:41.000 like try to get through this as quick as possible so that we could spend the next hour and a half

02:40:45.400 talking about the ball game and eating and whatever the other things i was like no no no i want to

02:40:51.960 keep talking about things pertaining to the kingdom of god man this this is a good road map for that

02:40:56.760 for common people yeah yeah and it's and it's not like i said isn't it is very uh information dense

02:41:02.600 it's there's a lot of research that's gone into it yeah um but it's very digestible and um like

02:41:09.560 this for instance is very this is the practical portion of how do you live out surrendering your

02:41:14.760 heart mind soul and strength to the lord how do we apply this verse because everybody talks about

02:41:19.240 the faculties and components of our body but nobody fully understands how do i do that right

02:41:23.720 How do I give over to the, to the Lord by word and deed?

02:41:26.980 And how do I, I don't want to just be a parrot and just like parroting things that I heard

02:41:30.600 some smart guys say on the internet.

02:41:32.240 Like, how do I actually do this?

02:41:33.660 That's right.

02:41:34.000 And so you get like step into total surrender.

02:41:36.460 Begin each morning by declaring Lord, everything in me, my desires, my thoughts, my energy,

02:41:40.060 my emotion are yours.

02:41:41.120 I choose to follow you with all that I am.

02:41:43.160 This is a declaration guide of your actions.

02:41:44.800 Each choice, each reaction, each word is an opportunity to live in obedience.

02:41:49.220 Let your soul align with your spirit.

02:41:51.280 Your spirit knows God.

02:41:52.140 Your soul may still wander.

02:41:54.320 And today, intentionally choose to let your inner man follow the guidance of the Spirit.

02:41:59.140 When feelings arise, decisions tempt you towards comfort or pride.

02:42:02.740 Pause and ask, is this in submission to the Spirit's leading?

02:42:05.360 Is this my flesh?

02:42:06.120 And that goes back to what I was saying.

02:42:07.260 It's like, my flesh is going to say, what if?

02:42:09.280 My faith and my spirit is going to say, even if.

02:42:12.140 Because it knows my spirit is of God.

02:42:14.060 It knows God's character.

02:42:15.400 My soul, that's why David had to prophesy over his own soul.

02:42:18.160 Why are you downcast on my soul?

02:42:19.640 Get up and praise the Lord.

02:42:20.840 we talked about that opening the coffee shop dude because a lot of people ragged us because we were

02:42:24.900 living in a rental house we had had a similar story of losing everything we owned two homes

02:42:28.960 they both got foreclosed on we lived in a rental house it was all that process of god chastising

02:42:33.940 me and ripping everything out of my life and so we lived in a rental house and spent all of our

02:42:38.780 money didn't go into debt to open the coffee shop in the library and people that knew us were kind 0.99

02:42:43.340 of like you guys are idiots what are you doing and to this whole what if point was like yeah what if 0.95

02:42:47.480 you guys lose everything it was like well we'd rather do that than not do it and even with our 1.00

02:42:52.180 kids we'd rather if we tell them you can do anything you should take chances in life you

02:42:56.140 shouldn't be afraid we'd be hypocrites if we didn't do this like we'd rather do it and lose

02:43:00.400 everything than like not do it you know so like the what if was just like yeah no problem i'd be

02:43:06.420 like hey have any of y'all opened up a coffee shop there's a there's a saying out there that

02:43:10.940 says the loudest booze come from the cheapest seats meaning that like the people who have almost

02:43:16.180 no interaction in your life or no saying in it they're going to scream the loudest and you know

02:43:20.760 what's the the easiest way to kill something is when it's an infant yeah whenever it's just now

02:43:25.740 starting out that's real and that's exactly what the enemy did i mean you look at uh in egyptian

02:43:30.360 times whenever moses was whenever pharaoh was trying to kill moses yeah and you look at uh

02:43:36.280 jesus too yeah you know the enemy is always trying to kill things in infant stage you look at i mean

02:43:41.720 even abortion today it's it's the same demons just different names yeah yeah that's real

02:43:47.960 there's a great point like how many like how many great revival preachers got aborted

02:43:53.040 like how many how many of like the great men of god that that were going to carry us to the next

02:43:58.980 level or just not with us man yeah man no yeah yeah it's that you're absolutely right and i

02:44:05.160 actually talk about i do talk about that in this book and it was actually um i gave a message on

02:44:10.780 that topic too and i have never um i've never heard it teach that way um of just you know we

02:44:20.500 are the temple of the living god and whenever god fashions a body or he creates a body it's a space

02:44:26.680 that he intends to dwell so whenever we are aborting a child we're not only just create or

02:44:31.540 we're not only just causing a sacred offense but we're actually touching the holiness of god in a

02:44:35.880 space that he wants to dwell in. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's powerful, bro. And it's, it's, it's been a

02:44:43.420 lot of time on my knees, a lot of failures that I've had. And man, the Lord has addressed a lot

02:44:47.920 of issues in my heart that I've had with this because, you know, I never preach at people.

02:44:52.400 I preach with people because at the same time, the Lord and the Holy Spirit are both speaking

02:44:57.760 the same thing to me. So like everything in here is just a resource. It's a guide for us to grow

02:45:02.800 together because you know what god looks at he's a respecter of persons when he looks at us we're

02:45:07.120 all in us he sees a straight line he says our righteousness is filthy rags menstrual garments

02:45:12.240 yeah we covered that today we me and todd talk about that too it was like when we whenever we

02:45:15.920 do these studies for straight bible it's like it's teaching us just as much as it's teaching anybody

02:45:20.080 else that's right when you get into the study to do it it's it you're more you're unlocking stuff

02:45:24.640 for yourself as well yeah and it's just like how do we live this out as believers how do we step

02:45:30.480 into the calling that God has put on into our lives and that's where we get this commission

02:45:35.980 step is like how do we step into that next role that God has for us and then once you once you

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02:48:29.440 It's 14 to 16 pages that like what they're going to facilitate in the night.

02:48:33.460 Yeah.

02:48:33.920 So it's a legit like two hour Bible study.

02:48:36.100 Yeah.

02:48:36.920 Let's go.

02:48:37.920 Yeah.

02:48:38.080 This isn't,

02:48:38.700 this isn't like surface level stuff.

02:48:40.600 This is for people who are broken.

02:48:42.680 Well,

02:48:42.720 people get together for two hours to watch a movie together or like whatever.

02:48:46.440 play games I guess what I don't even know what normal people do when they get together at houses

02:48:50.280 I don't know what they do but I bet people get together and go hang out at their friend's house

02:48:56.580 for two hours right no and that's exactly what this is supposed to do it's you know it's supposed

02:49:01.240 to equip the saints for the work yeah of ministry and you know ministry is humble acts of service

02:49:08.000 motivated by love it's not that platform amen and it is strictly doing what you're doing for

02:49:13.300 the name of Jesus. It could be a nursing bottle. It could be a drumstick. It could be a wheelchair,

02:49:17.300 whatever it is. If you're doing it for the name of Jesus, it's worship and it's ministry.

02:49:20.480 And that's what I want to equip people with, with this book is that it doesn't have to look

02:49:25.220 like the world is portraying it. The book of Acts, that was probably the epicenter of the

02:49:30.520 balm that the Holy Spirit dropped was in people's homes and they gave themselves over to prayer.

02:49:36.360 It doesn't even have to be a message. If you're constantly in prayer, it's like, don't get me

02:49:40.920 wrong. We need the word of God. But like, what would our, what would our, if our, if our physical

02:49:46.920 health was associated with our spiritual health and our spiritual life, what would our health

02:49:52.580 look like, man? Well, I think it is, dude. I think it is. I think you're right. You know what I mean?

02:49:57.160 I think there is definitely a connection. Like I think even science says if you're unforgiving

02:50:02.040 and bitter, it causes actual physical sickness and disease. I think it is like that, man.

02:50:07.260 but but you're right i mean the praying uh it just makes me think about like um sometimes there's

02:50:14.140 groups back here that meet for like um so-called uh politics like republican events and stuff

02:50:20.340 and then there's 50 or 60 people in here and they're talking about who's going to be who's

02:50:24.400 going to run for like city council or who's going to run for i don't know like all these different

02:50:28.480 local political positions and stuff and i'm always wondering like yeah what if these 50 people just

02:50:34.360 prayed in one accord like they did in the book of acts man before the holy spirit felt like what

02:50:39.300 did they just pray like which one would be really more like which would do more this whole like we're

02:50:44.560 gonna put this guy in city council and this guy on the school board or if they just prayed they

02:50:48.620 just got it they just got a hold of god and it kind of reminds me of this dude shared this uh

02:50:52.740 dream i don't remember exactly who the dude was or how this went down but the context of it was

02:50:57.680 that uh a dude went into heaven and uh there was the reward ceremony if you will and there was like

02:51:05.620 the table with the crowns on it and this dude was a pastor and was a big shot in the church

02:51:10.560 and he looked at the table and like the angel was like go ahead it's time for you to go get your

02:51:15.380 reward and there was like this big crown like this big rad crown with all the jewels like a really

02:51:20.040 nice crown and he goes to the big crown and he's and you know he just you know he's the preacher

02:51:25.280 he's like always been the big guy and he goes for it and the and the angel's like no no no that that

02:51:29.280 that one's not yours yours is the little the real little one right there and he goes okay and so he

02:51:35.200 takes the little one and then he goes well who's the big one for and the angel's like that's the

02:51:40.000 old lady that's always prayed for you from the very beginning of your ministry and it's like this

02:51:45.120 old lady that just you know and then like he could just see her like in her prayer closet just like

02:51:49.680 praying and going hard and she comes over and grabs the big crown it's an interesting thing who knows

02:51:54.240 you know whether it goes down like that or not but it's an interesting dream somebody had and

02:51:58.000 i just think it it's i think the uh concept of it's accurate man that prayer is the most powerful

02:52:03.680 thing in the universe that's right right and another raven hill quote was uh no man is greater

02:52:09.360 than his own prayer life yeah absolutely and we need it we just need to be in prayer that's

02:52:16.080 that's what's going to turn our nation back on track and it's not going to be who gets in office

02:52:20.320 it's going to be when god gets in office how do we do that through prayer through supplication

02:52:24.480 through praying for our current leaders hearts god loves them too man and you know

02:52:32.880 he uh he appoints rulers and he tears them down and we've also seen consistently that

02:52:37.520 bad bad leadership is a form of judgment it is man women leaders is a form of judgment in

02:52:44.640 isaiah that's a wild thing too bro i mean we see all that but whatever all right is this a good

02:52:50.740 time to wrap up i never know when like we're going long or we're going short or um wait so

02:52:55.920 are we good then i feel like otis really got to go hard on do you feel like you got everything out

02:53:00.780 for the book yeah and i think we kind of uh elaborated on it a lot in saying praises of

02:53:07.420 this book because we like it and like your story's good i don't know i don't know i just feel like

02:53:11.300 if i'm gonna get the book i kind of want to know your story and like where you're coming from

02:53:15.120 and i think you have a real story bro and you've got a real relationship with god and that matters

02:53:20.020 more than like which doctrine you hold or how long you went to cemetery school or whatever

02:53:24.260 dude like you've got a real story and you know the lord and you put forth you had a real motive

02:53:29.040 to bring forth this book dude this wasn't about just making the dollars or whatever like there

02:53:33.480 was a real motive from the heart of god to give something to equip the saints which is totally

02:53:38.580 biblical which is the concept behind what we call the five-fold ministry is to equip the saints for

02:53:42.760 the work of the ministry and that's where your heart's at you got a track record of doing that

02:53:47.020 on the beach dude you got a track record of doing that at the old 501c3 i just think this whole

02:53:52.020 thing is good bro and i'm excited to um do more stuff with you i don't know how long you're going

02:53:56.960 to be in the area i guess none of us know anything about who's going to be where for any amount of

02:54:00.740 time but i'm super excited to uh continue to do stuff with you i thought it was rad that you came

02:54:05.820 last night and um a lot of the people are going to ask because the ladies ask all the time so i 0.91

02:54:12.440 don't know if we're going to touch on a touchy subject here or not but the ladies are going to

02:54:16.060 ask is he single yeah i am all right okay no the chicks are going to ask because i think we do this 1.00

02:54:24.220 whole episode and then i don't ask the ladies are going to be so mad dude all right so they want to

02:54:29.860 know that and uh we'll just keep rolling with it dude we'll just keep doing rad stuff and i'm

02:54:34.340 grateful to have you in the shop man thanks for having me yeah it's been an absolute blessing and

02:54:38.900 privilege man well no regardless of what we did here i'm grateful that you come in the shop dude

02:54:43.540 like you're a blessing in the shop man yeah no i'm serious dude i see you in the conversations

02:54:47.500 you're having with people i see you praying with people i see you regularly in the scripture bro

02:54:52.280 like i love that like that's what i think we always hoped and thought we would see in the

02:54:57.000 shop would be like people doing what you're doing dude i believe the lord brought you here i'm

02:55:01.120 grateful for you dude no this has been uh this has probably been one of the most fruitful places

02:55:06.340 um when it came to establishing myself here in this area since i moved and when i got invited

02:55:12.960 here i went to the one your other location and i went there i went there and uh then i got invited

02:55:22.600 to this one man and as soon as i met you and like you showed me around the hospitality that i was

02:55:26.980 shown and just getting to see the library i think that's actually we actually met in here um because

02:55:32.760 i was just like looking at all the books and uh man this is this is church like what you're doing

02:55:38.620 here is church and uh because we are the church it's it's it's the body of christ he's our head

02:55:45.360 man and uh i just love being here i love getting to be around people who are who go hard for the

02:55:50.340 kingdom that are sold out and they're not afraid to call out yeah and i think what we're doing

02:55:55.500 similar man it's we both have a heart for the church being something other than what we see

02:56:00.840 today with a one day a week show man i think we both have a heart for seeing something greater

02:56:05.040 than that and i think a lot of people do and by the grace of god i feel like god's given both of

02:56:09.100 us a vision and a purpose and a game plan to facilitate that as opposed to just like bashing

02:56:15.780 the church i think at some point god starts poking you and saying what are you going to do about it

02:56:19.420 then dude that's right you're just going to say or complain about it are you going to do something

02:56:22.000 about it and so i think we have a similar vision and a similar goal a similar uh path

02:56:27.440 um it's different it's what we're doing is two different things but it's both in the name of

02:56:32.760 seeing a greater church man that's right that's what it's all about man amen like i said it's

02:56:37.340 not we're not trying to build our legacy anymore trying to build the kingdom yeah

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Nephilim Death Squad - September 23, 2026

[Straight Bible Showcase] Otis Fowler ｜ Home Church Discipleship

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