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00:01:24.160 Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Unfiltered Rise.

00:01:38.520 But today, it isn't just the Unfiltered Rise, because I have Tim here from Sixth Sensory Podcast,

00:01:43.060 and we're doing a swap cast tonight.

00:01:44.640 How are you doing, Tim?

00:01:45.380 I'm doing good.

00:01:46.760 I'm going to have fun with this, because this is classic, classic conspiracy that has come back to life.

00:01:54.140 Because, of course, we tapped into this without knowing it again.

00:01:57.900 Isn't it funny that we actually taught?

00:02:00.180 Okay, we knew what each other were studying.

00:02:02.480 But also, JFK is going to be JFK, MLK, and RFK, which is going to be released soon on the whole, you know,

00:02:09.880 exposing all the whole thing.

00:02:11.740 And I'm like, isn't it weird that we were already down this rabbit hole, like, at least four months ago?

00:02:16.480 Yeah.

00:02:16.920 Very funny, huh?

00:02:17.460 That's what I was going to say.

00:02:18.480 The best part about this, or the best part about the last episode we did,

00:02:22.500 was we had no idea that the JFK files were about to be released.

00:02:26.660 No.

00:02:26.940 It was weird, because I was just strictly doing research on RFK,

00:02:34.140 because there's Mormon involvement on RFK, which we'll get to a different day.

00:02:38.540 But then I was like, well, JFK's in this so much, I'm going to look at it.

00:02:42.400 And then it got weird, right?

00:02:44.340 We're going to talk about getting weird.

00:02:45.980 Like, what?

00:02:47.020 What is happening?

00:02:48.080 I know.

00:02:48.620 I know.

00:02:48.980 It's like, again, somehow we did a show where this, with weird timing,

00:02:54.900 and then, like, we seem to have all this information just kind of dropped in our laps.

00:03:00.520 You know, not to be dramatic, but almost like it's by an unseen force.

00:03:05.460 Really?

00:03:06.260 I mean, me and Tim are only two and not nine, but I'm telling you guys.

00:03:12.400 Hey, can I say, like, I know you said you want to get to RFK,

00:03:16.860 but, and we, in another, at another time.

00:03:20.440 But there's, I found some interesting stuff with him.

00:03:23.240 I'm just going to toss this in.

00:03:25.180 He was, so Sirhan Sirhan is the official shooter.

00:03:30.420 That's the mainstream.

00:03:31.640 Didn't happen.

00:03:32.420 Yeah.

00:03:32.660 Well, there's another guy there named Caesar, who was an aerospace guy.

00:03:37.720 He worked at Skunk Works.

00:03:39.180 Guess what?

00:03:39.900 Guess where he also worked?

00:03:41.840 He worked for the Mormon church.

00:03:44.460 Really?

00:03:44.920 Now you know why I've been down the rabbit hole.

00:03:48.700 Yes.

00:03:49.000 Eugene Caesar.

00:03:50.260 Yes.

00:03:50.540 Okay.

00:03:51.000 Well, that'll be a good show.

00:03:52.680 Yep.

00:03:53.060 I've got all kinds of stuff on.

00:03:55.840 Thane Eugene Caesar.

00:03:57.280 That's his name.

00:03:58.300 And I've been really deep diving him because the Sirhan Sirhan,

00:04:03.240 you want to talk about the occult and getting weird.

00:04:06.320 Holy crap.

00:04:07.900 You guys hang on to your pants for the next one with me and Tim,

00:04:11.020 because it is something.

00:04:12.480 Like, it is weird.

00:04:14.040 I was like, what the hell is happening here?

00:04:17.140 He disappeared for like 21 days and nobody knew where the hell this guy was.

00:04:21.180 But the saddest part of that is when they do this release of information,

00:04:25.240 he is alive.

00:04:26.760 You guys, he's 80 something years old.

00:04:28.940 He's alive in a prison.

00:04:30.140 He spent his whole life in jail.

00:04:32.160 And Thomas Noguchi's freaking autopsy said,

00:04:35.580 there's no possible way it happened from the front.

00:04:38.080 And that guy, I mean, I'm not going to say much more on it so we can talk about it later,

00:04:44.020 but that guy, Caesar, he was supposedly in the back.

00:04:48.640 He had the means to be able to pull a shot like that off and all this other stuff.

00:04:52.640 But what got my attention was that aerospace connection.

00:04:56.500 Oh, yeah.

00:04:57.180 With like what's happening now, because it was a weekend or so ago, I saw Trump officially releasing the JFK files.

00:05:07.120 And I saw where he said, here, give the pen to RFK.

00:05:10.160 So I'm curious about how this is going to play out with these files.

00:05:14.640 Because, you know, they say when RFK wrote that book about Fauci, that he had a full legal team with him who went through that book line by line before he published it.

00:05:25.720 Like they scoured it.

00:05:26.980 So I'm wondering if he's going to go put like a similar team on these JFK files.

00:05:31.620 What he said in the press release was they are going to be released in their entirety with nothing withheld.

00:05:37.520 So I don't think that they're going to redact anything.

00:05:41.660 And actually, they're supposed to take off all the redactions.

00:05:45.000 And it's interesting because, you know, I think it might possibly be the rollout for something that we'll get into here in a minute.

00:05:51.980 Because I think they might be getting ready to, you know, bump Project Blue theme.

00:05:57.080 Because, you know, that would make sense.

00:05:59.360 Because then we've got, you know, the whole alien reveal type stuff, right?

00:06:04.240 And so maybe they're getting, they're amping it up for that.

00:06:08.700 It would make sense.

00:06:10.400 Yeah.

00:06:10.780 I've got a lot of stuff on this alien thing too.

00:06:14.360 Funny enough that I haven't, I don't even think I told you about this.

00:06:17.220 But I've been working on a side project.

00:06:20.420 And it's gotten me face to face with this UFO threat disclosure stuff.

00:06:25.840 So we'll see if that comes up tonight.

00:06:28.280 Yeah, I'm pretty sure it will.

00:06:29.940 Because we're going to talk about Puerovich.

00:06:33.220 Puerovich.

00:06:33.840 I can't remember how to say his name.

00:06:36.420 Okay.

00:06:36.540 If they're going to roll out a UFO thing, that's interesting.

00:06:40.400 Because right now it seems like they're trying to get people to trust this administration.

00:06:45.640 Like Trump is really trying to get people to, it's almost like he's trying to renew people's trust in government.

00:06:51.260 Like, and look, I'm not falling for it either.

00:06:54.200 I've got eyes in the back of my head with this one.

00:06:56.780 But, you know, it's almost like he's trying to speak to people who had a 2020 or post-2020 wake-up moment.

00:07:06.780 Well, sort of.

00:07:07.840 Because, I mean, he did bump that mRNA cancer thing.

00:07:12.940 I don't want to say the word.

00:07:15.300 And I'm like, that is so not smart right now.

00:07:17.660 That is not a good idea.

00:07:18.820 Right straight out the gate.

00:07:19.940 Just like what happened before with Warp Speed.

00:07:21.940 I don't think he was wise in that decision at this time.

00:07:26.600 Right?

00:07:26.940 Like, I would have cooled my jets for a hot second on releasing any kind of medical anything.

00:07:31.760 Just because people are going to be sketched, you know.

00:07:35.860 But, also, I can see that, you know, he has a lot to lose here.

00:07:40.340 Let's admit it.

00:07:41.660 I mean, with Roy Cohn on the board of Permadex, which we're going to do a full, like, financial side.

00:07:48.580 This is the woo-woo side and there's the financial side.

00:07:51.220 But, I just can't believe that he would want that to touch him.

00:07:55.100 You know, Roy Cohn was his best friend.

00:07:57.600 Yeah.

00:07:57.960 And Roy Cohn was a total swamp creature.

00:08:00.840 He was, like, he knows where the bodies are buried.

00:08:04.960 He's one of those kind of guys.

00:08:06.700 It's almost like.

00:08:07.260 Because he put them there.

00:08:08.660 Yeah.

00:08:09.140 He probably had a hand.

00:08:10.100 It's almost like that was Trump's glimpse into the very, very dark side of politics.

00:08:16.460 And I don't know if that hurt or helped Trump, you know.

00:08:19.680 We'll see.

00:08:20.220 But, you know, if we're going to talk about UFOs, I've got something I've been wanting to run by you.

00:08:26.780 And it starts with Trump's minister.

00:08:31.480 Oh.

00:08:32.820 I don't know about this.

00:08:34.140 Yeah.

00:08:34.500 So, Donald.

00:08:35.100 But we are going to talk about some weird church today.

00:08:37.680 So, let's go.

00:08:38.820 Yeah.

00:08:39.080 This will pipe right into that.

00:08:40.980 So, Trump's minister is a guy named Norman Peale who was actually influenced by Swedenborg.

00:08:46.980 Yeah, but it's, like, it's kind of disguised.

00:08:50.500 But, basically, Peale wrote a book.

00:08:53.960 It's called The Power of Positive Thinking.

00:08:56.160 And people have pointed out that it's basically, line by line, like, based off of Swedenborg's principle.

00:09:02.040 So, I thought that was interesting because, you know, Swedenborg's, like, this occultist guy.

00:09:06.040 But Peale, in addition to being Trump's minister, he's also Nixon's minister and a minister to the Eisenhower family.

00:09:13.320 Oh, I don't trust anybody that's with Eisenhower family.

00:09:16.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:17.220 So, there's, like, a weird, weird thread.

00:09:19.600 I don't either.

00:09:20.200 There's, like, a weird thread between those groups and JFK and the secret space stuff because Trump and Nixon were, like, really close.

00:09:31.700 Trump had a letter up in the White House that Nixon wrote him.

00:09:35.600 Nixon, later in life, moved to New York and was hanging out with Trump.

00:09:38.740 And Nixon was working with, like, a – during his time in office, Nixon was working with a secret space base in Australia that was getting all this crazy UFO information.

00:09:50.140 And Nixon was rumored to have compiled all that and put it in a time capsule in the White House for just the right president or leader to come by.

00:09:59.900 It'll just pop open when it's time.

00:10:02.500 I think he was going to clue them in, right, right.

00:10:05.260 He was going to clue them in, but it was, like, this UFO disclosure, free energy, aerospace, advanced technology that Nixon – but Trump also, in his family –

00:10:15.680 He knows, because Tesla, yeah.

00:10:17.040 Tesla.

00:10:17.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:17.800 His Uncle John.

00:10:18.660 His uncle, yeah.

00:10:19.700 So, like, here's what I was thinking with that.

00:10:22.620 We know JFK was going to work with the Russians and expose, like, all the secret space stuff.

00:10:29.620 He was going to put it out there so we could have this, you know, more of a global approach to space, and there's a lot of UFO stuff involved in that.

00:10:36.540 So, what I'm thinking is, like, what if Nixon was going to release what JFK was going to release, but JFK got killed, then Nixon got axed because of Watergate.

00:10:46.020 He, like, inherited it.

00:10:47.140 Oh, yeah, we're going to talk about – and we're going to talk about Watergate, too, because the Mormons are highly involved in Watergate, highly involved.

00:10:57.340 The Mormon Mafia is actually one of the runners – well, basically, they were the reason behind RFK's assassination.

00:11:06.720 Like, they were the ones that carried it out, basically.

00:11:10.020 And the other part is, is with Watergate, they're super highly involved.

00:11:14.160 And they actually ruined this guy's life, we'll talk about, another – the next time when Watergate and Permadex will go together.

00:11:21.060 But it just was kind of shocking that they did this to this guy, and literally, he had to move to Canada.

00:11:28.140 And so, I was just like, what the heck?

00:11:30.940 I read his book, and I was just like, whoa, this is – wow.

00:11:35.200 And Permadex was based out of – partly based out of Canada, right, Montreal?

00:11:38.840 Yeah, well, they owned half of the stocks with – the Bronfman family owned it half through Bloomfield, is who was up in Canada that owned the half.

00:11:51.740 So, they were representatives.

00:11:53.620 So, was there like a – is there like a – and we don't have to jump, stay on this for long, but was there like a French-Canadian kind of influence there that maybe spread down to New Orleans?

00:12:02.820 There's definitely some coups with – they tried to have the French president assassinated multiple times.

00:12:10.520 And so, I don't know what's going on with that whole situation, like – but he never got caught, you know, so he never got – it was kind of funny because, you know, they say that that was who –

00:12:21.720 So, Permadex, just for people that aren't aware, and this is kind of a fun little touch on it, is that people say, okay, what does that stand for?

00:12:32.620 And they say it means Permanent Industrious Expo, right, because that's what they say it means.

00:12:38.380 But I've heard that it means Permanent Index of People to Kill.

00:12:42.980 Yeah, yeah, like a hit list.

00:12:44.520 Yeah, so I'm saying it's number two, and, you know, it's interesting the people they've gone after, and it makes it really funny with Reagan's little comment where he's like, you missed me.

00:12:57.520 Remember when he said that?

00:12:59.120 You missed me.

00:13:00.160 Yeah, yeah, right, right.

00:13:01.200 It was cool.

00:13:01.640 And, I mean, it's funny, like, with or without Permadex, we still have this group of people who were sort of in cahoots behind closed scenes kind of orchestrating a lot of these assassinations because, you know, that RFK's assassination was only three months from the MLK assassination.

00:13:21.420 But, of course, JFK kicked that all off.

00:13:24.140 So it's almost like the same group of people, maybe.

00:13:27.640 Yeah, it definitely was because, you know, different hits have different pieces and different players, but they definitely were worried about how pissed RFK was.

00:13:40.000 He was all over the newspapers saying he was going to pull it apart and this and that.

00:13:44.660 And, like, I think that people were really nervous with him going to dig into this whole thing.

00:13:50.980 So they got rid of everybody.

00:13:52.300 And you know what?

00:13:53.060 I don't think his wife's 100% innocent on, not RFK's, but Jackie.

00:13:59.020 Oh, wow.

00:13:59.660 I don't think Jackie's innocent in this.

00:14:01.480 Well, you know, it's like we talked about last time.

00:14:04.800 And, I mean, for me, this pulls the car right up to talk about the UFO stuff.

00:14:09.160 Jim Garrison.

00:14:09.720 Yes.

00:14:10.000 In interviews with Rampart, he said he narrowed down the suspects of the JFK murder, two names, within the Aerospace Military Industrial Complex.

00:14:19.300 And the people who have all the info on the UFO stuff, like the MJ-12 and all the Blue Book, all the people who were working with government approval to look into the UFO thing were part of this Aerospace Military Industrial Complex.

00:14:37.380 Well, you know who was over MJ-12 for a long time.

00:14:41.240 It was Bush.

00:14:42.760 And Bush, you know, he's got a part to play when we get in with Hughes.

00:14:48.380 Once again, he is part of Zapata Oil.

00:14:51.640 He actually rents a piece of an island from Hughes, who was very anti-communist.

00:14:59.300 He was very serious about, like, we do not, you know, cahoots with anybody, but he was also super racist.

00:15:07.300 And, you know, whatever.

00:15:09.260 It's a different time and place.

00:15:10.920 I get it.

00:15:11.560 There were two Bushes, too.

00:15:13.080 I think there was a Vanover.

00:15:14.580 But this one, the MJ-12, I think the secrecy part, at least in the government end, I think was President Bush.

00:15:24.040 But as far as the file and, like, his workings was Vanover.

00:15:28.900 And then John was his, John Trump.

00:15:31.780 Yeah, John Trump worked for, or he was, he was what?

00:15:34.940 His protege.

00:15:36.200 Yeah.

00:15:36.440 Uh-huh.

00:15:36.800 Yeah.

00:15:37.220 Yep.

00:15:37.800 Yep.

00:15:38.320 Yeah.

00:15:38.740 It was such a wild tie-in.

00:15:40.500 Well, and the fact that, like, honestly, we're going to talk about this guy today that I'm like, this is more stranger things than, than anything else I've ever seen.

00:15:51.240 And we probably should do a deeper dive, like, with an MKUltra another time.

00:15:55.400 But, like, this has been an interesting ride.

00:15:58.740 So, I'm going to, I'm going to share my screen.

00:16:00.680 Yeah.

00:16:00.760 And I'll show you why.

00:16:01.980 Because last time we, I wasn't quite ready when we talked about the nine.

00:16:06.420 But I said, oh, we'll do it again.

00:16:08.840 And then, you know.

00:16:09.660 I think this is going to get interesting, too, if, you know, with us putting this information out today.

00:16:15.780 But also, like, if people want to keep an eye on what's happening in the news.

00:16:19.400 Because, you know, at that inauguration, you see Musk and Bezos basically in Trump's corner.

00:16:26.200 Salute.

00:16:26.640 Well, not now, though.

00:16:27.980 Did you hear Musk got thrown out of the White House?

00:16:30.860 So.

00:16:31.080 Oh, that didn't last very long.

00:16:33.140 But they seem like, they seem like.

00:16:35.140 You can't do the salute.

00:16:36.560 I don't know what he was doing there.

00:16:38.300 Is that why they threw him out?

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00:18:08.760 No, but all of a sudden, he has had his access.

00:18:13.160 This is what I read on just news stuff on my phone.

00:18:16.740 His access has been removed, and he now reports to, I think, the Secretary of Defense lady, or I can't remember who,

00:18:23.280 but it was a woman, and they said she would not have been able to make that call that had to have come directly from the president.

00:18:30.560 So I don't know what the heck.

00:18:32.340 Well, you know, Trump's little baby brainchild thing was his Space Force.

00:18:38.260 That's, like, that's part of his legacy.

00:18:40.900 And, I mean, Elon Musk holds a lot of contract with Space Force.

00:18:46.160 So they've been working together behind the scenes for a long time, Trump and Musk have, I think.

00:18:52.500 I just thought it was interesting to say, there was a squabble over some money for Space Force.

00:18:58.200 That was what the deal was.

00:19:00.740 He said, we want this much money for Space Force.

00:19:03.580 Trump did, and then Elon was like, I don't have that much money.

00:19:07.100 And so there was kind of this little weird glitch.

00:19:10.260 It'll probably smooth over unless it's not meant to, but, you know.

00:19:14.160 Well, you know, I just wonder if Trump, with or without Musk, Bezos, and some of these other guys are going to bypass NASA and aerospace and kind of revive the space race.

00:19:27.340 Like, you know, that's kind of what JFK was going to do.

00:19:30.420 Right? I know. That's a death warrant.

00:19:33.480 Yeah.

00:19:35.140 After reading all this stuff, I'm like, oh, I don't know.

00:19:38.880 But, I mean, obviously, the last guy that tried to do it, maybe it just wasn't the time yet, right?

00:19:43.960 And so this is kind of a little bit before we're going to talk a little bit about these players, too, before we get to the nine.

00:19:51.260 But this is Guy Bannister. I'm sure you've heard about Guy Bannister.

00:19:54.580 And so, you know, he's the UFO researcher for the CIA with the whole Maury Island affair.

00:20:00.260 Yes.

00:20:00.500 And so he was, you know, had a big, huge fight, though, after the JFK assassination.

00:20:07.220 And he actually drew a gun on Ferry.

00:20:10.720 His last name is Ferry.

00:20:11.880 And he said, what are you going to do, kill me like JFK?

00:20:14.480 And actually, he got arrested.

00:20:16.060 One of them got arrested.

00:20:17.640 And so I thought that was really interesting because they were drunk at a bar.

00:20:21.380 And I was like, oh, that's kind of a weird place to start.

00:20:26.180 But when I said we were going to talk about fake churches today, it's not even the Mormons I'm going to pick on.

00:20:31.020 So that guy, Guy Bannister, he's basically a pope over this fake church.

00:20:37.400 Yes.

00:20:37.620 He was also a UFO investigator for Hoover.

00:20:42.340 And they had, I'll let you tell it, but they had him in a CIA front church.

00:20:50.500 Yes.

00:20:50.960 Well, actually, it's never been confirmed that it was a CIA front.

00:20:56.900 But yes, it was the Orthodox church.

00:20:59.280 And I was, like, shocked that, and this is Jack S. Martin.

00:21:03.640 He was also involved in this church, this little fake church.

00:21:07.220 And he's a bishop.

00:21:08.640 They're all bishops except for Bannister.

00:21:10.620 Bannister was kind of like the pope.

00:21:13.220 There was no church parishioners or anything.

00:21:17.260 And it was just this place, like, and that was it.

00:21:20.540 And they never really did anything with it.

00:21:22.880 So they're not copping to it.

00:21:26.040 So also Walter Myron Propheta was in it, former Ukrainian priest, notorious anti-communist, which means anti-Russian, basically at this point in time.

00:21:36.300 Picked by Dewey to be the White House chaplain and close associate of J. Edgar Hoover.

00:21:41.640 So he was also one of the people.

00:21:44.280 Christopher Maria Stanley.

00:21:46.300 He's also known as Carl Stanley for the FBI.

00:21:49.400 He was a close associate with Ferry Propheta Martin.

00:21:53.100 And he was a part of this church as well.

00:21:56.380 So the weird part is, is all these guys start dropping like flies, okay, after JFK's death.

00:22:05.240 Like, they were summoned to, this guy was the only guy that showed up.

00:22:08.880 They were summoned to New York.

00:22:10.160 And basically they said, bring your documents with you, why you're doing this or whatever.

00:22:16.220 And it was for the FBI.

00:22:18.700 Like, they knew who it was being summoned for.

00:22:21.040 And he was the only one that actually went.

00:22:23.180 Everybody else was like, nah, bro.

00:22:25.400 And so they didn't go.

00:22:27.400 And he dies.

00:22:28.480 And then, you know, Ferry dies.

00:22:29.880 All these people start dying, dying, dying.

00:22:32.020 Well, this is garrison, right?

00:22:34.140 Garrison called.

00:22:34.780 So, for just to pan over these players here, it's Guy Bannister was over Clay Shaw.

00:22:45.600 Clay Shaw worked for Guy Bannister.

00:22:47.980 But what was happening with the garrison investigation is garrison called a guy named Russo to the stage.

00:22:55.040 And Russo said that he had overheard Oswald, Clay Shaw, and Ferry at a party conspiring to shoot Kennedy.

00:23:02.940 And that they had even gone so far as to say that they were going to do like a triangulation of crossfire and all this and that.

00:23:10.820 But the problem is that all these guys are CIA.

00:23:15.120 And so it's like the CIA threw their own people at the problem just to muddy the waters, just to obfuscate things, right?

00:23:24.240 Well, and it was such a weird little thing.

00:23:26.720 And I get to hide it or whatever.

00:23:29.920 But then, like, when you get to the point where they start dropping dead, that's just kind of crazy.

00:23:34.740 Because they're like, oh, he just had an aneurysm.

00:23:37.100 Oh, this guy committed suicide.

00:23:38.600 Oh, this guy touched his car door and had a jelly-like substance on his hand and just died after that.

00:23:45.240 Oh, the CIA killed them off.

00:23:47.020 They killed their own people.

00:23:48.320 This was like after you do the deed, you get killed by your handler.

00:23:52.960 Right.

00:23:54.280 And so all of this plays into, like, the whole thing when we're going to get into, like, why maybe something happened, which is why I bring it up.

00:24:04.120 And it's just kind of a blip.

00:24:05.820 It's not about the nine, like I said.

00:24:08.000 But I think it's important enough because it's going to tie into the future.

00:24:11.740 So that's why I put it on here.

00:24:13.900 How much stuff do you have on Shaw right now?

00:24:17.480 Not tons.

00:24:18.320 We can definitely go over Shaw for sure.

00:24:20.280 Maybe I can pepper this in real quick because I think that Shaw was 100% CIA because I looked into him.

00:24:29.180 He was – so Shaw, he worked for Guy Bannister, who Heidi's talking about, right?

00:24:33.640 So Shaw was traveling a lot, mainly to South America.

00:24:37.100 And from what I could tell, whenever he would return, whenever he'd come back into the country, he would give the CIA a report of the things he saw, names and incidents and all kinds of stuff.

00:24:47.060 He did that for around 10 years, leading right up to the 60s, right up to the assassination.

00:24:53.120 So he was a total CIA – I don't know if he was completely in, if he was a wannabe, but they were using him.

00:25:00.960 He was a rookie recruit.

00:25:02.280 He was kind of in that mode.

00:25:03.320 He was definitely a shill.

00:25:04.860 So ultimately, I think that he was – CIA and CIA brought him in probably to clutter up the investigation and just kind of like use them until they don't need them anymore, and then you just toss them like trash.

00:25:21.340 So –

00:25:22.340 Well, and you have to understand one other thing is Clay Shaw is on the permadex board.

00:25:28.940 Wow.

00:25:29.660 I forgot about that.

00:25:30.880 So I don't know if he's a useful idiot or playing one, right?

00:25:35.000 Oh, good point.

00:25:35.860 I mean, like who really knows the truth, but all of these guys I showed you guys in, you know, Jack Martin, the bishops, these people that Garrison mentions, they're all in this fake church, but they all also were in the Maury Island affair.

00:25:52.320 So they knew stuff.

00:25:54.720 I think they're trying to clean up, you know, anything X-related.

00:26:00.320 And when I say X-related, I mean X-Files related because I think they wanted it to go away.

00:26:07.400 Like they just weren't, you know, they weren't having it.

00:26:10.760 And the other one that died, Ferry, he was a pilot.

00:26:14.640 And, you know, then the pictures came out later with Oswald, which I have in here.

00:26:19.560 I think they worked on the same civil air force patrol unit.

00:26:23.880 And going back to this UFO thing, Oswald and Ferry worked on some sort of a secret project involving the UFO spy plane.

00:26:33.940 Here's the, at the, oh, the cap days.

00:26:37.840 So he was a pilot and it was in the, let's see, civil something pilots.

00:26:45.500 Like he, he was a pilot for that.

00:26:47.920 And so, um, and I can't remember the, the, I don't have anything on the screen, by the way.

00:26:54.660 Oh, really?

00:26:55.960 There was a, there it is.

00:26:57.360 There is a third incident called the Maury Island incident.

00:27:02.740 Yes.

00:27:03.300 And it's been muddied up so much that a lot of people in the UFO community don't even think it happened.

00:27:10.100 But I think some of that might be propaganda.

00:27:12.700 I'm not really sure.

00:27:14.060 So, so do you think that they were, there's like a, like you said, X files, like, like there's like a, a UFO file on the Maury Island incident and some of that other stuff that they were trying to clean up.

00:27:27.340 I think that they were trying to get rid of anybody that could possibly say yes, for sure that this happened.

00:27:34.820 It's kind of sketchy.

00:27:36.140 Like when you look at that whole situation and fake churches, like it just makes one know one thing.

00:27:41.860 Like churches are always an easy place to like integrate because how easy is it to just pretend like you're part of.

00:27:48.460 Oh yeah.

00:27:49.820 And they would give, the CIA would give these ministers, these big white house positions and the church elders were all spooks working for the CIA.

00:27:58.260 And, but they're on the, on the back end.

00:28:00.140 Yeah.

00:28:00.240 There was totally all these political, uh, upgrades, you know, or handshakes and deals being made.

00:28:06.880 And it's brilliant because of this time in the sixties, if you look like a priest and you know, you're wearing that collar and everything, you could go anywhere you want it.

00:28:14.360 You could just walk right in.

00:28:15.700 It was perfect.

00:28:16.600 I'm sure.

00:28:17.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:28:19.020 So we're going to talk about the nine and we're going to talk about the people that were at this seance.

00:28:27.100 And, and it's a very strange case.

00:28:29.300 I was telling you about it the last time we met and, and the players of it, or it's even more odd.

00:28:34.640 So I, I wanted to present a little more about what happened because it's going to go right into the X-Files.

00:28:41.620 And so when we say X-Files, the reason why is because of how they named them.

00:28:47.740 So they named them SM dash X-Files for security matter and then slash X.

00:28:53.420 So that's how they like categorize these.

00:28:57.440 And that's why the X-Files is called the X-Files.

00:28:59.580 So, but it's kind of interesting and mind blowing when you get to some of the connections to Lee Harvey, Oswald, to JFK, to everything with this seance.

00:29:11.140 And it gets, it gets strange.

00:29:12.880 So in 1952, this seance is organized by Andreja Pujarovic.

00:29:18.620 And he was intended to channel the nine.

00:29:22.500 And when they say the nine, they mean the nine principal gods of the Aeneid.

00:29:27.000 And this is supposed to be like they were the ones worshipped at Heliopolis.

00:29:32.740 And so it's like Adam, A-T-U-M, Shu.

00:29:38.040 He's okay.

00:29:38.620 So Adam is the sun god.

00:29:40.360 Shu is god of air.

00:29:42.260 Tevna, goddess of moisture.

00:29:45.900 We've got, let's see, CL is god of earth.

00:29:49.260 Nut, goddess of sky.

00:29:50.820 Osiris, member of the Aeneid.

00:29:53.620 Isis, member of the Aeneid.

00:29:55.300 Seth, member of the Aeneid.

00:29:56.720 N-N-E-P-H-T-H-Y-S.

00:30:03.780 I'm not sure how to say that.

00:30:04.940 But, and also one of them.

00:30:06.080 Is that just some sort of a panel of gods that these people were?

00:30:09.000 So, yeah.

00:30:10.180 They're ancient Egyptian type gods.

00:30:13.740 And they're there to channel this nine.

00:30:16.780 Well, if this just happened and we just heard about it later and it was no big deal.

00:30:21.580 Like these people weren't influential or played into anything else.

00:30:24.220 It wouldn't even matter.

00:30:25.020 But these players are so wild that you, like, when you hear this, you'll understand why it

00:30:33.000 makes such a big difference.

00:30:34.120 So this lady, Ruth Payne Young, her father was employed by the CIA.

00:30:38.520 Sister was a psychiatrist in the CIA.

00:30:41.400 Like I said, she wants to learn Russian.

00:30:43.600 That's her whole big claim to fame over what's going to happen and go down here, right?

00:30:49.380 And, and it's funny because she's a Quaker and she's just like, oh, I'm just this nice

00:30:54.800 little housewife, whatever.

00:30:56.360 And so she's there.

00:30:58.540 Okay.

00:30:59.400 Her, her son was not there, but he's integral in all of this here coming soon.

00:31:04.320 Her husband was there, Arthur Young.

00:31:06.860 He is the inventor of the bell helicopter.

00:31:08.860 So obviously he's got a whole bunch of clearances.

00:31:12.860 I mean, why he's at this weirdo seance.

00:31:15.400 I don't know, but you know, he has a lot of Nazi connections too, which we could probably

00:31:19.940 get to later.

00:31:20.820 Oh yeah.

00:31:21.260 I think there's a couple of pictures that you'll be definitely interested in, but he, he left

00:31:26.380 supposedly bell helicopter retired from all military stuff and gets really involved in

00:31:31.960 the studies of anything esoteric.

00:31:34.300 So that doesn't surprise me that he gets involved with the Nazi stuff because he just all of a

00:31:38.820 sudden one day is like, I'm cool.

00:31:40.440 I don't need to do that anymore.

00:31:41.580 Like meh, you know, but we have to also talk about who his family is because also his mom

00:31:48.920 was there, but her name is Ruth Payne also.

00:31:52.980 So Ruth Payne Forbes Young.

00:31:55.380 So they almost have exactly the same name, except she was a Forbes.

00:31:59.140 And not only was she a Forbes, she also is the granddaughter of Ralph Waldo Emerson.

00:32:05.620 She was super influential.

00:32:07.520 She's old money.

00:32:08.580 Her dad died on the Titanic, left her a ton of money.

00:32:11.640 And you know, she just has had this like life of pretty much luxury since not saying

00:32:17.480 I'd want my dad to die over it, but you know,

00:32:19.640 They're related to the carries too, right?

00:32:21.380 Like John Kerry.

00:32:23.260 I, I think they're related on the carries on both sides actually.

00:32:27.380 And what's, and I think that'll come up with her son, but the other people, I couldn't

00:32:33.140 get the pictures of them, but I do have who was there.

00:32:36.240 And it's pretty interesting when you listen to the names, right?

00:32:39.620 So we've got, we've got Henry and Georgia Jackson.

00:32:43.940 We've got Alice Bouvier born Alice Astor.

00:32:48.560 Yeah.

00:32:49.980 Marcella DuPont.

00:32:51.900 Yes.

00:32:52.320 That DuPont, like the DuPonts.

00:32:54.780 Carl Betts, Vonnie Beck and Pujarovic.

00:32:58.920 And there is nine of them, just like there is the nine that they're contacting.

00:33:03.380 Oh, okay.

00:33:03.580 And so it's interesting.

00:33:07.940 They get together and, and this guy is super into the sacred mushroom.

00:33:12.440 He is a big deal in the CIA.

00:33:16.000 And so Pujarovic served as a captain at Edgewood in the army.

00:33:21.140 And he is in the arsenal of hallucinogenics, drugs, and psychic ability.

00:33:25.680 He is literally probably how stranger things was made.

00:33:29.900 Like he is the inspiration for this.

00:33:32.420 He was working on psychic ability specifically to find a way to stimulate psychic ability

00:33:38.820 and drug use to use that to do that.

00:33:41.860 And so he worked for the CIA in the 1950s and he's the one that found Uri Geller.

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00:35:14.880 So if you guys know about Uri Geller, like he's a whole, I have a whole two,

00:35:18.820 but Uri Geller actually didn't like him because he said,

00:35:23.000 I always felt like he was trying to get things out of me for the CIA.

00:35:26.640 So he didn't like it.

00:35:28.640 And, and he wasn't, it wasn't a for sure thing.

00:35:32.420 Like it was kind of on the DL, but, oh, he's working with the CIA, but Geller had figured it out.

00:35:38.180 He was like, I don't like this.

00:35:39.680 So whether you believe Geller or not, because Geller's kind of, some people don't.

00:35:43.920 What was this guy doing for the nine?

00:35:46.100 Weren't they sending him off to other countries and stuff to,

00:35:49.820 I don't know, to like do research and stuff that was going to help them esoterically?

00:35:54.260 They do after this happens.

00:35:56.160 And so he is the one running the nine this night.

00:35:59.780 And this night is in 1952 at this seance on a full moon, or actually it's on June 20, June 27th, 1953.

00:36:09.800 The original organization of it was in 1952, but they picked a certain moon and everything to do this by.

00:36:16.800 So this guy is running it.

00:36:18.780 And these fancy people that I'm telling you about and like how, how they're basically the nine,

00:36:24.240 they also are known as the Roundtable Foundation.

00:36:27.920 So this guy gets a whole bunch of backing by all these Richie Richies.

00:36:32.060 And so not only is he working on the side for the CIA, but he's also doing all of this work.

00:36:37.680 And this is like part of their testing, like later on with the ESP abilities and like different testings that they did.

00:36:46.780 He was the one that did all the hallucinogenic drug research and everything.

00:36:51.340 But this is two years after or one and a half years after this seance.

00:36:56.260 So during the seance, they have some kind of like mass psychological experiment with broader psychological application.

00:37:05.280 They won't say exactly what they found out, but we know this, like as soon as this happens,

00:37:10.620 all of these people end up kind of a part of the JFK situation.

00:37:16.720 And even, you know, to the point where some had been shut down and they say they spoke to aliens hovering above in space and all this stuff.

00:37:26.260 During this time.

00:37:27.280 And so it's so weird that when we, we go backward and we see, okay, they do this seance, whatever.

00:37:34.880 They don't meet again for quite some time.

00:37:37.240 He takes off.

00:37:38.000 He's doing his thing.

00:37:39.060 None of these people like really have a whole lot to do after this night, except the pains and the pains.

00:37:47.900 Arthur is not really too much on the wordiness, but Ruth Payne was like a number one testimonial person.

00:37:55.040 And Michael Payne, her son, he actually worked.

00:38:00.460 He was, he was her first marriage child.

00:38:04.120 So Michael went and got a job at Bell Helicopter and he did not just have regular security clearance there.

00:38:11.960 His stepdad was the one that built the Bell Helicopter.

00:38:15.540 So he had like massive security clearance there.

00:38:18.280 So just to know, like he, he's kind of a big deal in with that.

00:38:23.220 And also.

00:38:24.200 So their testimony thing that you mentioned, you're talking about testimony in the JFK assassination later.

00:38:31.520 Yes.

00:38:32.180 Way, way later.

00:38:33.120 Because it looks like when you look at the dates that it looks like they were doing a lot of this work.

00:38:38.580 You said, I think in 1953 or 1954.

00:38:42.620 Four is when they start really getting in on this whole acid trip stuff.

00:38:48.500 But, um, for now, Michael is just, so people know who he is.

00:38:53.200 He's an engineer and he's working like at Bell Helicopter.

00:38:57.920 Okay.

00:38:58.400 And he's talks to his wife after the assassination.

00:39:01.960 And he was saying, we both know who is responsible for this.

00:39:05.760 Cause they had their phones bugged.

00:39:07.120 And also at Bell Helicopter, guess who his boss is?

00:39:13.060 He is a Nazi Dornberger, right?

00:39:16.100 Yes.

00:39:16.740 He's got a Nazi boss.

00:39:18.280 And so it's, it's odd.

00:39:20.540 And then you have to also remember the Oswalds.

00:39:23.440 Okay.

00:39:23.780 So Ruth Payne is the one that is like where they're staying at her house.

00:39:30.040 She's the one that has the garage.

00:39:32.500 She's the one that's like basically the connect.

00:39:35.600 And here's that picture we were talking about earlier with Ferry.

00:39:39.820 Just so people can see.

00:39:41.560 Dornberger, this guy's boss, he was a paperclip Nazi.

00:39:45.100 He was, um, they were going to hang him at Nuremberg.

00:39:48.440 That's how bad this guy was.

00:39:50.240 Von Braun intervened, said, I need him here with me.

00:39:53.500 So they brought him over to America with, they were hesitant about it.

00:39:57.580 Cause he was such a murderous Nazi, but they brought him anyway.

00:40:00.340 He ends up at this Bell Aerospace, um, and working beneath him

00:40:05.160 is as a protege, is this Michael Payne, who's married to Ruth.

00:40:09.780 So Oswald is in and out of this Payne house.

00:40:13.020 Right.

00:40:13.360 And it's supposedly it's where he stored the gun that she used to shoot JFK.

00:40:19.900 And, and he's like, I'll show this picture before I scoot along.

00:40:23.640 Um, and his wife is literally staying with Ruth.

00:40:27.820 So this picture is Marina and Ruth and she's letting her like live at her house just for

00:40:34.360 no reason.

00:40:35.200 And, and they act like they're super poor and everything.

00:40:38.600 And this is a really weird thing too.

00:40:40.740 Like they just act like they're normal, not super poor, but just like a normal family.

00:40:45.160 Yeah.

00:40:45.960 But you laid out, you laid out who they're related to.

00:40:48.940 Yeah.

00:40:49.220 Well, they had millions in the bank, millions of dollars in the bank.

00:40:52.860 And so you also have to know about Marina.

00:40:55.880 Marina is a little bit of a part of this whole.

00:40:59.320 You know how that, you know how that, uh, Marina Oswald ended up staying with them.

00:41:04.900 It was set up by another Nazi over dinner.

00:41:08.040 There was another Nazi.

00:41:09.500 I'd have to go back and find the name.

00:41:10.940 It was probably set up through Dornberger, but there was this, another paperclip Nazi

00:41:15.440 who said to the pains, you guys need to go out to dinner with the Oswalds.

00:41:20.820 After that, there was some deal worked out where the pain said, you can stay with us.

00:41:27.840 And Oswald went to new Orleans, I think during this time, but yeah, it was, it was Nazis that

00:41:32.500 set this whole thing up.

00:41:33.820 Right.

00:41:34.300 So I think it was like the paperclip.

00:41:37.100 She, she is, well, Marina's dad is a Russian army Intel officer.

00:41:44.280 And so, you know, that goes along with it.

00:41:47.660 Then at a dinner, they introduced, um, Lee and Marina to George DeMorensfield.

00:41:55.640 And he's a big critical part of all of this.

00:41:58.860 So do you know about George DeMorensfield?

00:42:00.500 He, he was, um, actually, he's a kind of big deal in a, in a big part of this.

00:42:07.540 So he is running like a Russian high society, white society like deal.

00:42:15.380 And, and he was a petroleum geologist and anti-communism.

00:42:20.820 Anytime you hear that, like have your ears turned on political refugee.

00:42:26.000 He ran a white affluent Russian group and he was actually, that's what his, what his

00:42:32.000 outside was supposed to look like, but actually he was a KGB first chief and everybody says

00:42:38.040 that he was the handler of Oswald and they met at a dinner party.

00:42:42.480 Um, they were introduced to Marina and Lee.

00:42:45.420 And so it's kind of strange that, that he just gets brought into it, even though he's KGB.

00:42:52.100 Right.

00:42:53.080 Wait.

00:42:53.660 So, so your research shows that this KGB guy set up that dinner.

00:42:59.820 That they, they, the, the pain set it up to meet him, to introduce him.

00:43:05.820 Oh, okay.

00:43:06.300 Okay.

00:43:06.860 But it could have been opposite.

00:43:08.500 Maybe they just met at dinner.

00:43:09.780 Well, I think, I think with Oswald too, here, we are talking about a double agent.

00:43:14.440 So I, I don't know that Oswald was working directly for the Nazis.

00:43:20.480 I just think later he ended up being manipulated by them, especially the aerospace Nazis.

00:43:26.420 Yeah.

00:43:26.760 Well, and I think that you're right.

00:43:29.200 I think that he thought that he was going to have a certain kind of, you know,

00:43:34.180 He may have been Russian.

00:43:35.660 He may have, he, he totally may have been Russian intelligence for a little while, for

00:43:39.720 sure.

00:43:40.020 For a little while, but he may have just been a double agent, which, you know, he worked

00:43:44.780 at William Riley coffee and William Riley coffee is still in existence to this day in

00:43:49.740 New Orleans, like you mentioned.

00:43:51.300 And then he quits and he says, I'm going to go work for NASA.

00:43:55.160 Okay.

00:43:55.820 This is why I think that it has more to do with being a double agent and a shield, like

00:44:01.480 a whole shield set up.

00:44:02.740 Like, because do you know that everybody at the William Riley coffee company, not just

00:44:08.100 Lee Harvey Oswald, that he never got the job because of everything that happened.

00:44:12.120 But all of those people that work there went to work for NASA, their coffee people, they

00:44:16.680 make coffee.

00:44:17.460 What?

00:44:18.760 Like they all went to work at NASA.

00:44:21.680 So that tells me it was a CIA front operation.

00:44:23.980 Yes.

00:44:24.620 Like, there's no way just like the church, which is why I put that first, because I'm like,

00:44:29.340 okay, if we're going to talk about people that, what, they just got lucky and became

00:44:33.860 like, what, a scientist?

00:44:36.520 No, that's weird.

00:44:38.040 This is how they do things.

00:44:39.420 Like even in the, in the RFK assassination, when you look at all the people who were in

00:44:45.020 the room with him, when he was shot, there were guys there who were engineers at aerospace

00:44:50.240 companies, but in their off time, they were volunteer cops and they went and got their little

00:44:56.220 permit or whatever to be a volunteer cop so that the CIA could set them in the room for

00:45:01.440 that assassination.

00:45:02.740 You know what?

00:45:03.280 You know, they weren't, they weren't police.

00:45:05.120 They were something else.

00:45:06.060 They were like aerospace hit me, but that's just how they do.

00:45:08.620 They, they do these front churches and front coffee shops and all this stuff.

00:45:12.580 They do like little fake and we're going to get into that.

00:45:16.740 When we hit the Mormons, there is a front company on that one, just like Permadex is a

00:45:22.000 front company.

00:45:22.860 And, and so we're going to get into all that too, but you're right.

00:45:25.540 They do this kind of stuff, but I almost forgot this lady and she is extremely important in

00:45:30.480 this whole story.

00:45:31.840 So guess who this is?

00:45:33.640 She is Ruth Payne, the mother.

00:45:36.440 Okay.

00:45:36.640 Not, not the other one.

00:45:38.300 This is her best friend.

00:45:40.020 And guess who her best friend is?

00:45:42.600 Let me tell you all about her best friend.

00:45:46.040 Cause her best friend is Clay.

00:45:49.280 No, Alan Dulles's girlfriend, long time mistress and her name.

00:45:54.300 Yes, is I have it written down here and it, it cracked me up.

00:45:58.580 Cause I was like, what on earth?

00:46:00.500 Mary Bancroft.

00:46:02.160 And it's been Alan Dulles's mistress forever.

00:46:05.620 And it's Ruth, Ruth Payne, the mom, not the wife.

00:46:10.660 Cause it's confusing.

00:46:11.780 Cause they both have the same damn name.

00:46:13.540 Anyway, the, the elder Ruth, it is her best friend.

00:46:18.260 And so what is going on that all of these people think about poorly Harvey Oswald.

00:46:23.700 Okay.

00:46:24.440 First of all, no wonder he said, I'm the Patsy.

00:46:27.440 Like everybody in his world at that point, everybody, he was around were either part of

00:46:35.100 the CIA or part of the nine or part of some experiment or something.

00:46:38.640 Right.

00:46:39.060 And so you have to be talking about like people that literally hate JFK.

00:46:44.520 Cause Alan Dulles had been fired by now.

00:46:47.560 Okay.

00:46:47.860 So if for people that don't know in the Bay of pigs, after it was over, JFK kind of swallowed

00:46:54.220 that hard, but then he fired Alan Dulles and he made the CIA.

00:46:59.160 And Dulles would later.

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00:48:29.920 He would help older Ruth in court hearings.

00:48:34.980 He would change the subject and stuff for her so that they wouldn't get into certain topics

00:48:39.520 because of this tie that you just laid out.

00:48:41.940 His mistress is the best friend.

00:48:43.440 And so she's, you're right, like this pain household, and it blows my mind that this

00:48:49.820 is not a aspect that has been studied much by any JFK.

00:48:55.040 Some have looked into it, but like the majority of JFK researchers that I've heard, they don't

00:49:00.640 really go into this pain household.

00:49:02.520 But like when you look into it and you, and you, you study it like it's a glass house and

00:49:08.980 you look at everybody involved, they are very much, like you said, intertwined with CIA.

00:49:13.980 But like, again, this guy, um, pain, Mr.

00:49:18.520 Pain, his boss is Dornberger, who is, I can't, I mean, this is key.

00:49:23.860 Like, I, I can't say how significant this is.

00:49:26.880 Like that last show we did together, I put up an Instagram reel.

00:49:30.860 Well, there's a picture I showed in the reel of the paperclip Nazis.

00:49:35.040 Dornberger is standing right next to Von Braun.

00:49:38.080 They were best friends.

00:49:39.660 I have a picture.

00:49:40.360 And I think, I hope I put it in here.

00:49:42.620 I have a picture of them too, all together.

00:49:45.460 It's crazy how connected this family is to former Nazis.

00:49:49.040 Michael Payne, Michael Payne's boss right here.

00:49:52.260 And there's the Dornberger shown here with Himmler.

00:49:54.920 Yeah, with Himmler.

00:49:55.960 They're like right there.

00:49:57.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:57.940 So in, in 42, 41 or 42, Dornberger was giving speeches in Nazi Germany about space travel.

00:50:07.280 So he was, you know, he was a very, uh, I don't want to call him a brilliant scientist

00:50:11.320 because he was a Nazi, but you see what I'm saying.

00:50:13.060 He was, he was on top of his science stuff.

00:50:15.240 And he was, um, he was completing rockets so fast.

00:50:20.580 He was building them so fast that Hitler publicly apologized to Dornberger and said, I'm sorry,

00:50:27.840 I ever doubted your work because he was so efficient.

00:50:30.460 So this guy was like the Jack Parsons of Nazi Germany.

00:50:33.520 Well, and he, and they even say like this, this picture is two weeks before JFK is killed.

00:50:41.300 And you have to understand the war to understand how much Nazi Germany hated the Russians.

00:50:48.080 Okay.

00:50:48.680 Absolutely.

00:50:49.460 The Russians are the reason why World War II ended, not America.

00:50:53.200 I'm sorry.

00:50:54.580 Um, and, and a lot of people don't know that, you know, a lot of the Russians kind of get screwed.

00:50:59.500 What happens is people, cause people, we know that the, that the Nazis hated Jews,

00:51:04.800 but that overshadows the fact that they really hated Russians as well.

00:51:10.880 Well, because they made them lose the war.

00:51:13.400 And so, and they killed more Russians than Jews.

00:51:17.320 And I hate to say that.

00:51:18.820 Exactly.

00:51:19.480 Um, and I know it's really conspiratorial or whatever, but it's, it's not, it's history.

00:51:26.200 It's, there's a difference when we speak about conspiracies and what our thoughts are versus

00:51:31.660 facts.

00:51:32.240 And so far tonight, we've just given stone cold facts with photos because we haven't said

00:51:38.780 what we think at all yet.

00:51:40.160 So, um, and, and, you know, I obviously have my thoughts on it.

00:51:44.600 I'm sure you do too.

00:51:45.720 I have two different directions though, and it's kind of hard, but Von Braun even said that

00:51:51.240 Doernberger had to come, like you said, but I found this little gem.

00:51:55.960 When I was going through things and I laughed so bad.

00:51:58.800 Cause I was like the fucking Mormons, they always show their little faces.

00:52:02.600 So also just so you guys know, um, Wernher von Braun was in a Mormon theological film,

00:52:09.920 which no other people were in except for Mormons, no other people.

00:52:14.300 So this is going to open up a whole discussion with me and Tim, after I go through these slides,

00:52:18.980 because they're almost done.

00:52:20.060 And I'm telling you guys, I was telling him before we rolled what I think, and it's weird.

00:52:26.420 So we'll leave it at facts right now because yeah.

00:52:29.240 Yeah.

00:52:30.100 Can I lay, can I just go back to something you said and lay, lay out something real quick

00:52:34.160 when it, when it comes to this Russian thing, you're absolutely right.

00:52:36.940 I'm with you.

00:52:37.700 Like we're, we're just, we're, we're trying to take as historical of an approach as possible

00:52:43.280 here.

00:52:43.680 And what's happening in the background here is that thousands of Nazi scientists like

00:52:49.060 Doernberger were brought over and they were given positions within our space program, within

00:52:54.100 NASA and other various aerospace programs.

00:52:56.740 It was a silent invasion.

00:52:59.320 That's yes.

00:53:00.600 You can kind of prove that, but it goes, but it goes back to Von Braun and Doernberger.

00:53:05.580 These two are major players.

00:53:07.240 Just the fact that Doernberger is, is connected to the pain is super significant, but they,

00:53:13.260 they helped Doernberger and Von Braun early on before the war was even over.

00:53:18.920 They were talking to the Americans working out deals because they saw which way the war was

00:53:24.760 going.

00:53:25.160 Right.

00:53:25.440 They had to figure out where they wanted to be.

00:53:28.340 Yes.

00:53:28.960 So I was, I've always thought that that was super wild because Von Braun as early as 1944

00:53:34.840 was secretly talking to the Americans.

00:53:38.640 He was going through General Electric to do that, which I always thought was an interesting

00:53:42.200 connection, but right there beside him, you know, the British did an interview where they

00:53:48.640 bugged Doernberger and they got Doernberger to say on record that yes, Von Braun was talking

00:53:54.520 to the Americans, working out a plea deal, working out a deal for him to come work for

00:53:59.120 them after the war.

00:54:00.500 He, as, as he's an active Nazi and we were giving him a deal.

00:54:04.920 So that's what they did with these guys.

00:54:06.260 I just want to lay that out.

00:54:07.260 And I want to tell people, Peter, Peter Lavenda is where a lot of this information comes from.

00:54:14.480 Not all of it.

00:54:15.340 Okay.

00:54:15.720 They're the dark journalist, Peter Lavenda.

00:54:18.600 There's a couple other books I went through.

00:54:20.380 So, um, but those two people that the books I'm okay with saying their books, but those

00:54:26.240 two people that have put it in a lot of their work, like, I like to say like that came from

00:54:31.780 them.

00:54:31.960 And then of course, CIA FOIA docs, which the nine was in as well, but we have to give credit

00:54:36.860 where credit is due.

00:54:37.780 And Lavenda has laid all of this out.

00:54:40.620 And you know, that book is hard to find now it's called sinister forces.

00:54:44.400 It's all about the nine and you can't hardly find it.

00:54:48.560 And if you do, it's a hundred bucks.

00:54:50.440 Yeah.

00:54:51.020 Shout out dark journalists.

00:54:52.360 Shout out Peter Lavenda and Peter Lavenda.

00:54:55.100 I've heard him tell a story before he, when we talk about this church connection, these,

00:55:00.320 the CIA church fronts, Peter, that's the only person I've ever seen go over that.

00:55:05.660 Yeah.

00:55:06.060 Yeah.

00:55:06.300 Well, he actually started a church when he was young and it was, you know.

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00:56:39.100 He was, uh, he didn't believe in the Vietnam War.

00:56:41.800 He didn't want to go fight that war, and good for him.

00:56:44.100 So he started a church with his friend, and it was like an Orthodox church of some sort.

00:56:48.940 So he got involved in New York in this Orthodox church.

00:56:53.140 And he knew all of them.

00:56:54.760 He knew all of those people.

00:56:56.140 So he saw firsthand what was happening in the Orthodox churches of New York and beyond

00:57:02.320 New Jersey as well.

00:57:03.920 They were, um, we've already talked about this, right?

00:57:06.160 But the CIA were given, promising these guys like prominent political position.

00:57:09.960 So he, I just shout out to him, right?

00:57:12.320 Because he, he saw it firsthand and brought this knowledge forth.

00:57:15.120 Well, and, and he's, you know, he, you know, Damor and Schild, the guy I showed you.

00:57:21.180 So just to kind of sweep that under too, like to finish that guy up, he killed himself as

00:57:27.860 soon as Garrison requested an interview with him.

00:57:30.420 So two weeks after Garrison's report hit the news, he killed himself.

00:57:34.540 And then you see things.

00:57:35.620 Yeah.

00:57:36.460 And then you see things like this, where, you know, this was a CIA FOIA doc.

00:57:41.600 This, if you look at the bottom, these are CIA FOIA docs, all of this stuff really happened

00:57:47.120 where Tim is talking about them protecting.

00:57:49.560 It happened through the churches.

00:57:51.420 It happened through the three letter agencies.

00:57:54.100 This is how it happened.

00:57:55.880 And the problem is they didn't just, people think of project paperclip and they just think,

00:58:01.180 oh, well, it was just Nazi scientists.

00:58:04.140 No, it wasn't.

00:58:04.900 It was thousands of people.

00:58:06.940 And on top of that, it was thousands of rail cars full of everything.

00:58:11.520 They had to bring everything with them.

00:58:14.040 They had to, and it was part of their deal.

00:58:16.500 If they didn't bring their shit, they didn't get to come.

00:58:19.040 And actually we kind of know that they drug their feet a bit because one thing is sure.

00:58:24.640 We didn't make it to space first.

00:58:26.460 Like who did the Russians, right?

00:58:29.680 With Sputnik.

00:58:30.220 And so, you know, and I know that they had free reign.

00:58:35.100 They had mailboxes.

00:58:36.920 They could write letters.

00:58:38.280 They were communicating still.

00:58:40.120 And these are sneaky damn people.

00:58:41.680 We're talking about Nazis people.

00:58:43.020 We're not talking about regular people.

00:58:44.400 So, yeah, I think they, they leaked it.

00:58:48.080 And I think that, you know, when that happened, because, you know, you know about the bomb that went and bombed Mexico.

00:58:54.020 Do you know about this?

00:58:55.360 No, no.

00:58:56.200 They're dumbasses.

00:58:57.360 They did it on purpose.

00:58:59.020 We, America, accidentally bombed Mexico.

00:59:02.660 This is real.

00:59:03.400 I should have wrote down the name of it.

00:59:05.140 I've heard that, actually.

00:59:07.080 It happened because of the project, Paperclip Nazis.

00:59:11.660 They, they programmed it to not go where it was supposed to go.

00:59:15.260 And it really pissed Mexico off.

00:59:17.220 They probably wanted some sort of a war to pop off because of it.

00:59:20.980 Well, I think they were unhappy where they were.

00:59:23.680 That's why Russian got to space first.

00:59:26.080 Like there's only one way that happens is if they're dragging their feet.

00:59:29.460 So they're dragging their feet.

00:59:30.460 Then this whole bomb goes off in Mexico and America's really got to kiss some ass.

00:59:35.580 Like, really?

00:59:36.880 Yeah.

00:59:37.040 And so after that happens, I think they were given an ultimatum.

00:59:40.800 Like, you better get your shit together, you know, like, or you're going to go.

00:59:45.200 Because, like, they were sick of it.

00:59:46.880 And that was supposedly when we made it, you know.

00:59:49.840 Yeah.

00:59:50.260 And, you know, it's funny.

00:59:52.600 You go back and you see, this is madness, right?

00:59:55.920 This, this scene that you're depicting.

00:59:57.860 Like, how did we get to this point as a country?

01:00:00.600 And what happened was, I think, ultimately, and this is what I want to tell people, because I don't see this being talked about a lot, especially not in mainstream media.

01:00:09.520 Americans, at the end of the war, we sent some of our top scientists over there.

01:00:14.840 And we had some CIA guys with them, I think, as well.

01:00:17.320 But they went over to Nazi Germany and, and saw the setup, right?

01:00:22.240 They saw guys like Hams Kamler, who was building all these tunnels under the, under a big castle.

01:00:27.300 And he had a huge scientific, you know, just a warehouse, just a, just a total rig going on there.

01:00:34.580 And he, Kamler and some of these other Nazis had set up this military industrial spec, and they were carrying it out through the Third Reich.

01:00:44.760 Our, our American investigators and scientists who saw this, they came back and told Washington, D.C., we need this now.

01:00:54.180 We needed this yesterday.

01:00:55.560 So that's how we got the military industrial complex.

01:00:58.780 We got it from the Nazis.

01:01:01.480 Well, and let's not forget, we've got Ruth Payne, who, by the way, I watched her biography and a whole bunch of stuff on her.

01:01:08.720 She is such a freaking weirdo.

01:01:11.040 Like, I'm telling you guys, if I had to believe her and, and her idea of things, I, there'd be no way.

01:01:17.900 Because look at this woman's face.

01:01:20.100 Just take a good freaking look, people.

01:01:22.560 This is the crustiest lady I've ever seen.

01:01:25.040 She's got the bitch, resting bitch face for sure.

01:01:27.900 Would you go pack up your baby?

01:01:30.500 And you know, Marina later, she came out.

01:01:32.680 Because remember one thing, they only interviewed Marina through her because nobody else spoke Russian.

01:01:39.800 I don't know why they couldn't go find another CIA agent that spoke Russian and talk directly to Marina.

01:01:45.120 But eventually the FBI gets a hold of her.

01:01:47.500 And you know what they say?

01:01:48.780 Don't talk to her.

01:01:50.040 She's CIA.

01:01:50.720 So they yank her out of there.

01:01:53.600 And after this all pops off, she's never seen again by Ruth Payne.

01:01:57.460 And they ask her about it.

01:01:58.700 And she kind of trips over herself.

01:02:00.340 It's really funny because she's old.

01:02:01.940 But like, so she's sharp as a tack though.

01:02:05.200 Don't even play.

01:02:06.100 She still says the same shit at perfect order, everything.

01:02:10.680 But you know what?

01:02:11.480 People say stuff to her about her.

01:02:14.060 And I'm like, here's the thing.

01:02:16.140 Everybody else got whacked.

01:02:17.980 Like, wouldn't you just recite the same damn thing too if everybody else is getting whacked?

01:02:22.360 Like, they can't even open their car door.

01:02:24.780 They're having heart attacks.

01:02:26.800 Yeah.

01:02:27.440 Yeah.

01:02:27.720 And too, that connection with Dulles is major.

01:02:31.460 Like, he was a major player.

01:02:33.700 He was a CIA.

01:02:35.280 He had been in the OSS.

01:02:37.860 He was an OG.

01:02:39.240 He was a CIA OG.

01:02:40.440 Him and his brother were the ones that made the CIA.

01:02:43.820 So when Kennedy hired him, and actually what Kennedy did, I wanted to bring this up.

01:02:48.720 Oh, and Kennedy.

01:02:50.380 And he was going to splinter it into like a thousand pieces.

01:02:53.520 But also, people say, oh, he might have said that.

01:02:56.840 He might not have.

01:02:57.540 But guess what he did do?

01:02:58.680 He went and sought action for the CIA memorandums, 55, 56, and 57, eliminating the CIA's power

01:03:07.920 to wage war.

01:03:09.040 Then he fired Alan Dulles.

01:03:10.900 That's a statement, whether he said the splintering or not.

01:03:14.940 Right?

01:03:16.200 And the Dulles brothers were over a bank that financed the Nazis.

01:03:19.920 So yeah, when Kennedy fired Alan Dulles, the head of the CIA, who was in bed with all these,

01:03:25.320 you know, sketchy people and the Nazis.

01:03:27.460 Those are fighting words.

01:03:28.100 Those are fighting words.

01:03:29.260 That was Kennedy making a new and probably forever enemy.

01:03:33.960 And Dulles wanted back in the CIA.

01:03:35.800 So it was war.

01:03:36.620 It was on.

01:03:37.680 He was running the CIA from a different place.

01:03:40.720 Do you know he still went to, they had like a country club for the CIA, and he still showed

01:03:45.440 up there and he didn't give a shit.

01:03:47.380 And he was still running stuff from his house.

01:03:49.920 People were saying like, he's still running things.

01:03:53.240 And they were trying to clean house, but they couldn't do it fast enough.

01:03:56.940 You know, these guys were, these guys were absolute gangsters.

01:04:01.100 They were executing leaders in Vietnam, trying to start that war.

01:04:05.360 In fact, a few weeks before Kennedy died, they killed two of these brothers who were major

01:04:11.620 leaders in Vietnam.

01:04:13.260 JFK was appalled by the whole thing because he didn't want any of this stuff to escalate.

01:04:17.680 He did not want a Vietnam war.

01:04:19.960 I think honestly, we wouldn't have had one.

01:04:21.960 There were 77 people.

01:04:23.060 When he asked for the headcount of how many people we had lost at that time, what you're

01:04:27.660 talking about, there was only 77 lives lost.

01:04:31.840 And he said that was too many.

01:04:33.920 Could you imagine what he would have thought later?

01:04:37.840 Because you have.

01:04:38.840 Yeah.

01:04:39.400 Another reason why they killed him.

01:04:40.600 So they could have their war in Vietnam.

01:04:41.940 Well, their money, the money, all these companies we're going to get into with Permadex, like

01:04:48.000 people say, well, okay, then it was probably these people, but hold on.

01:04:51.900 The why is still matters because the why is why do they care?

01:04:57.600 And it's always about money, especially with Roy Cohn, especially with Roy.

01:05:02.920 Yeah.

01:05:03.420 And, you know, with the CIA and this Vietnam thing, like they knocked out MLK, who spoke

01:05:09.040 out about the Vietnam as well.

01:05:10.820 But like beyond that, I think some of this had to do with the opium trade because that

01:05:16.420 Vietnam war opened up channels for them to get opium all over the world.

01:05:21.520 They were packing the bodies full of heroin.

01:05:24.900 And like, even in modern times, it's like, people are like, why is there this constant

01:05:30.080 connection with the CIA and drug trafficking?

01:05:33.020 It's because they've just been doing this for a long time.

01:05:35.940 You know, I don't know if you ever saw that movie, American Gangster, but I love that movie.

01:05:39.820 It's one of my top 10 movies.

01:05:41.480 They show in that movie, and I think this is accurate, they show how the coffins are coming

01:05:46.480 over with our dead soldiers and they're lining.

01:05:49.820 That's full of heroin.

01:05:50.820 Yeah.

01:05:51.020 They've got heroin stashed in the coffins.

01:05:54.340 This stuff is really happening.

01:05:56.280 I know one thing.

01:05:57.760 And he said, I will say it.

01:06:00.080 My uncle was a pilot and in the, in the air force.

01:06:04.120 And I know that that happened.

01:06:06.680 I don't know who, where, what, why, but I know that part happened.

01:06:11.040 I got a, I got a mental picture of your, you say this was your uncle.

01:06:15.060 Yeah.

01:06:15.340 My uncle.

01:06:16.620 What's that?

01:06:17.280 What's that Tom Cruise movie?

01:06:18.580 He, where he's a pilot and he's, and he's running drugs.

01:06:21.120 That's what I thought about with the aviators on.

01:06:23.540 Yeah.

01:06:23.900 Yeah.

01:06:24.220 Yeah.

01:06:24.700 Yeah.

01:06:25.060 My family was great.

01:06:26.600 They were so crazy.

01:06:27.760 I mean, but also I want to say two more things about, about this seance people before I minimize

01:06:33.640 and we, and we talk shop about some real shit that popped off from this is Michael Payne

01:06:39.440 also had connections to the United Fruit Company.

01:06:44.160 Now, I don't know if you've ever done.

01:06:45.860 I know everything about that.

01:06:47.360 I have.

01:06:47.860 United Fruit ties to the Mormons.

01:06:50.480 A hundred and ten percent.

01:06:53.020 And so it is the key like to, to the Mormons.

01:06:57.480 Remember how the one guy talked about selling your soul for the people that have Coca-Cola?

01:07:03.220 Do you remember this talk?

01:07:05.220 No.

01:07:05.360 He made a poem about it.

01:07:07.140 And this guy was talking about how they sold out for Coca-Cola bosses.

01:07:11.700 And that used to be the Mormons.

01:07:14.040 And so, and there's more than that.

01:07:16.140 There's lots of things that tie them to it.

01:07:18.240 But also we have to mention one more thing about Little Miss Ruth before I minimize this down.

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01:08:51.740 She's the one that got Lee Harvey Oswald the job at the Texas School Depository.

01:08:57.880 But do you know who that was owned by?

01:09:00.240 By Joe?

01:09:00.860 It was owned by Bird.

01:09:02.180 His cousin.

01:09:02.740 He was owned at aerospace company.

01:09:04.560 Yeah.

01:09:04.740 It was aerospace.

01:09:05.480 His cousin.

01:09:06.500 Yeah.

01:09:07.380 Bird.

01:09:07.940 Like, Antarctica bird.

01:09:09.520 His cousin.

01:09:10.360 His cousin.

01:09:11.360 And I was like, what?

01:09:13.640 Like, okay.

01:09:14.800 Heidi, that's what I was talking about last episode when I said there's a huge aerospace presence here.

01:09:21.720 It's everywhere you look.

01:09:22.540 Yes.

01:09:23.340 Yes.

01:09:23.900 And I knew that it went in.

01:09:26.780 I had to organize my brain on it because I was like, how do I bring this up with the permadex?

01:09:32.180 But I realized I couldn't.

01:09:33.540 So that's why we're doing another one.

01:09:35.460 Because I was like, you know what?

01:09:36.920 It's just going to be too hard.

01:09:38.080 But also, you're not wrong.

01:09:40.300 Now, I didn't know about the Aerospace Airship Club, the Gentleman Club there.

01:09:46.120 And I didn't know about this, the 1001 Club.

01:09:50.200 Do you know about this shit?

01:09:51.560 No.

01:09:52.280 What about it?

01:09:52.780 Oh, well, this 1001 Club has a big part to do with, like, all the different, like,

01:10:02.480 memberships being hidden.

01:10:04.200 But this goes into national parks.

01:10:06.460 We got to do a whole episode on the 1001 Club.

01:10:09.600 Okay.

01:10:09.880 It is crazy.

01:10:11.920 And it hides a lot of things.

01:10:14.020 And they hide behind save the planet type shit.

01:10:17.260 National parks.

01:10:18.340 Well, I've got a connection, too, with United Fruit if you want to hear about it.

01:10:22.500 Oh, I love that.

01:10:24.120 Let's do that.

01:10:24.900 I think I've got everything on here until we pop off to the X-Files.

01:10:30.560 Yeah.

01:10:31.000 So, this is just something short.

01:10:35.240 And because, and I think it might tie in a little bit.

01:10:38.460 It's in the same time period as the Nine.

01:10:41.460 And because, you know, two of the dates I saw were 1953 and 1954.

01:10:46.520 And then they get, so, then Pujarovic, he does get back in the scene of things and really

01:10:54.080 takes off with, like, Stranger Things stuff.

01:10:56.420 And he starts doing shit with kids and space kids and weirdo stuff in the 70s.

01:11:01.540 He gets real crazy up.

01:11:03.740 Yep.

01:11:04.020 And so, this is all happening in the Eisenhower years.

01:11:08.020 And Eisenhower and the Dulles brothers undertook a small little private war called the Guatemala

01:11:17.760 coup of 1954.

01:11:19.540 And it all centers around the United Fruit Company because the Dulles brothers and Eisenhower,

01:11:25.080 our president Eisenhower, had stock in United Fruit Company.

01:11:29.220 And so, when that whole coup of Guatemala was to give United Fruit Company more land and

01:11:38.040 to keep it from going under so they could continue to profit from it.

01:11:41.780 So, and honestly, too.

01:11:43.560 It's a banana republic.

01:11:44.840 Yeah, that's where that comes from.

01:11:46.880 It was making them money, yes, off of the fruit and the produce and all that.

01:11:51.360 But it was another one of these CIA stronghold fronts as well.

01:11:54.720 So, it gave them a stronghold in that area of South America.

01:11:58.340 So, I just thought that that was interesting.

01:12:01.820 I think it's important to tell people that is literally where the term banana republic comes

01:12:09.080 from, is that it from United Fruit Company.

01:12:12.440 And there are so many people that are so damn crooked involved in that one.

01:12:17.200 Same thing with the 1001 club.

01:12:19.840 Yeah, well, I wrote that down.

01:12:21.940 So, I'll look into that.

01:12:23.460 But here's a big takeaway.

01:12:24.640 I think this might segue us into UFOs.

01:12:26.620 The CIA, you know, they had power big time.

01:12:30.880 They had a guy named Richard Bissell.

01:12:33.560 Eisenhower put him over Area 51 in some capacity.

01:12:37.240 But Bissell planned assassinations with the mob.

01:12:41.300 He did mind control with the CIA.

01:12:43.140 And it was like guys like Bissell who knew how to plan and execute assassinations, right?

01:12:51.840 And use mind control in the process.

01:12:53.980 So, I think we see that happening a lot in the background.

01:12:57.900 But this guy had a lot of info on UFO as well.

01:13:01.300 Bissell did.

01:13:02.000 If you look up, okay, it's P-U-H-A-R-I-C-H.

01:13:09.100 This guy, look up his patents.

01:13:11.880 Just his patents, okay?

01:13:13.760 It's the funnest freaking...

01:13:15.660 People want to say we aren't talking to aliens.

01:13:18.220 Bullshit.

01:13:19.160 His patents...

01:13:20.340 He has an automobile that runs with water, you guys.

01:13:23.740 He has some great...

01:13:26.700 Guess what my favorite one is?

01:13:28.660 And this goes back to Lee Harvey Oswalt.

01:13:30.920 If he did it, but I don't think he did.

01:13:33.040 But this will totally tie into Sirhan Sirhan.

01:13:36.640 A laser that can manipulate somebody from far, far away mentally.

01:13:42.240 They can...

01:13:42.760 A mind-altering laser beam.

01:13:45.860 What?

01:13:46.800 I think they activated that shit in 2020, for real.

01:13:50.520 Wow, yeah, that's...

01:13:51.600 This is the mushroom guy, right?

01:13:54.640 Yes.

01:13:55.040 His name is...

01:13:55.540 What's his last name again?

01:13:56.520 P-U?

01:13:56.840 Um, P-U-H-A-R-I-C-H.

01:14:01.740 Puhara Rich, I think is how you say it.

01:14:04.040 But he, his, just to...

01:14:06.840 I was going to include a copy of it on here, and I should have.

01:14:09.840 I was in a hurry.

01:14:10.900 But I wanted to do a snapshot of just his holdings on his patents when he died.

01:14:15.820 There were over 75 that were, like, in limbo.

01:14:19.220 There were, like, a bunch of other ones.

01:14:20.780 And I was, like, reading them, and I'm like, okay, listen, we went and got the microwave out of freaking nowhere right after Roswell.

01:14:31.060 Right, 1947.

01:14:32.620 Oh, yeah.

01:14:33.540 It's always that, right?

01:14:35.720 Like, we go from...

01:14:36.680 It's like the Nazis.

01:14:37.560 It's what you said about the castle thing.

01:14:39.560 Like, they did this weirdo stuff, and then all of a sudden they have jets and stuff.

01:14:43.120 Like, what?

01:14:44.140 You know?

01:14:44.680 Like, it's just, like, L. Ron Hubbard and Parsons out, and they knocked his little ass off, too.

01:14:50.960 And, you know, I don't think he blew himself up.

01:14:53.860 Sorry.

01:14:54.400 Well, that's where they were working on the bell.

01:14:57.260 The Nazi bell was in some of those tunnels down there that Ham's camera was working on.

01:15:02.040 But, yeah, a lot of this technology just strangely emerges in 1947.

01:15:07.940 I've said it before.

01:15:08.960 I'll say it again.

01:15:09.580 If you look in the research of Linda Moulton Howe, she went and did extensive research into Bell Labs,

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01:16:47.580 Emerges in labs with these military backchannels overnight, right after Roswell.

01:16:54.680 It's like they literally were dragging stuff in from the desert, whatever happened out there,

01:16:59.440 and they were testing it, and they were coming up with all this.

01:17:02.460 They were finding new technologies out of this material.

01:17:05.440 That's her thesis.

01:17:06.820 That's her tie-in.

01:17:07.960 But either way, the point is, is like whether aliens or not, something in 47 happened that opened up a doorway for us to step into a more highly technical world.

01:17:20.480 I definitely 110% agree, and I think that there's been multiple things over the multiple years, like this seance, right?

01:17:29.200 Obviously, I think, okay, this is what Steiner says, and this is what I was telling you about the eighth dimension.

01:17:35.840 The eighth dimension is kind of like an outer world.

01:17:40.340 I'm not a Steiner person.

01:17:43.240 Like, I don't know all the things about Steiner.

01:17:45.100 I just did a gloss over, so don't come at me, guys.

01:17:47.340 Well, I can break it down.

01:17:48.700 I know what it is.

01:17:49.380 Yeah, okay, so you get what I'm saying, like, as far as what he's talking about.

01:17:54.740 When I read that, Tim, I went, this is Mormonism, because that is outer darkness.

01:18:01.060 Outer darkness is the disconnect, and you're just all alone without any God or anybody or anything, all alone.

01:18:08.280 And then there's a top heaven, a middle heaven, a lower heaven.

01:18:12.900 When I read it, I was like, oh, my gosh, I think Joseph Smith must have read this.

01:18:18.300 Yeah.

01:18:18.600 But, I mean, it's probably not the same, same, but, like, it must be something with Kabbalah is my guess.

01:18:24.440 But I'm just saying.

01:18:25.440 Well, there's a common thread between Christianity, the Bible, the Divine Council, Deuteronomy 32, or whatever it is,

01:18:34.120 and some of the stuff you find in, I think, Mormonism, and then also in what Steiner was talking about.

01:18:42.420 He's coming from it from a sort of like an occultist angle.

01:18:45.500 But, yeah, he had this idea of the A-sphere within that.

01:18:50.960 He found that there was, like, a web of entities that were kind of, like, intervening in earth matters,

01:18:57.020 and there was one in particular called Eremon, I think, the Eremon.

01:19:01.460 And he said the Eremon was working towards – it's what we just talked about with this technology breaking into our timeline, essentially.

01:19:09.060 This Eremon figure that Steiner talked about was going to feed us little pieces of information so our technology would advance

01:19:17.780 and so that the Eremon could eventually come through that technology and interact with us and, like, kind of control us.

01:19:26.700 So the idea that Steiner was actually predictively making – because, remember, Steiner died in 1923.

01:19:33.240 He had no idea what was coming with the internet and stuff like that, but he was describing that.

01:19:37.400 He's describing that humanity is going to be giving something like the internet and something like AI so this being can manifest through that.

01:19:46.580 Well, and I'm telling you guys, I really believe, like, and this is why I always tell people, because people are like,

01:19:54.540 oh, you might think he just lied, Joseph Smith, or you might think he just did wacky mushrooms.

01:20:00.380 No, I think what happened was the same thing, what you're saying, and I think that it's, like, fallen Nephilim spirits a lot of times,

01:20:08.100 because the one thing I do know when they're talking about, like, in Kabbalah or whatever, is the lowest level, okay, the lowest level beings you can contact first.

01:20:20.080 And he talks a lot about Jupiter.

01:20:22.380 He talks – you've got to read it sometime when you get really bored.

01:20:26.940 Like, try and look at some of the crazy stuff he says at the first, and you'll be like, he talked to the same thing.

01:20:33.000 And then we get little quotes, and this is why I was telling you, I think there was a switch, you know, right after the church reorganized and everything.

01:20:43.760 We have this guy named Heber C. Kimball, and he's an early leader in the church, okay?

01:20:48.500 And in 1858, he says this quote,

01:20:51.920 The masonry of today is received from apostasy, but we have the true masonry, because we hold the keys.

01:21:00.660 Now, they're always talking about these keys, okay, the priesthood keys, the priesthood keys.

01:21:05.680 And everybody always asks me, like, even when I was a Mormon, what are the priesthood keys?

01:21:10.600 And they kind of give you this wishy-washy answer, like, oh, well, it's just, like, you're right to give blessings to your family and stuff.

01:21:18.640 No, no, this goes back to Solomon's Temple.

01:21:21.720 We get really ancient with this shit.

01:21:23.820 But here's the thing, I truly believe that at some point, the Mormon church, and I kind of know who did it, I think it was under George A. Smith, because he ended up on Time Magazine, and he was, like, a Harvard graduate and a Rotarian, and, like, all these fancy things that he shouldn't be.

01:21:42.800 Because Mormons aren't really supposed to, back then, this is old, you know, they're not supposed to be all chummy-chummy with, like, Catholics or anything else.

01:21:52.260 So why would he be part of the Rotary Club?

01:21:54.220 Why would they be part of Skull and Bones?

01:21:56.480 Why would they be doing all these things?

01:21:58.460 And this is early on in the church history.

01:22:00.520 Like, I think he was 19.

01:22:01.940 He's during the war with the Nazis.

01:22:03.660 So, like, there was a change in between.

01:22:06.340 There was two presidents.

01:22:07.700 So I'm just saying, like, first of all, the Mormon church 100% sent aid to Germany, not to other people, to Germany, Nazi Germany.

01:22:18.620 They sent them aid.

01:22:20.560 So when you look at that, that would be like an act of war for anyone else, okay?

01:22:26.880 But they got away with it, right?

01:22:28.340 They get away with it.

01:22:29.800 They're constantly talking about the keys.

01:22:31.920 They're constantly making little slide, okay, of hand, things like they just opened their temple down the street from the Vatican.

01:22:41.720 That has never been done before.

01:22:43.840 And always the Vatican has been like, go F your mother.

01:22:46.960 We're not giving you any land.

01:22:48.560 Like, no, you're not doing it.

01:22:50.480 But they did it.

01:22:51.660 And it's been over five years now.

01:22:54.620 And they just kind of kept it quiet.

01:22:57.060 And there's this picture.

01:22:57.760 You know that that's like a New Jerusalem type concept.

01:23:00.300 Oh, I know.

01:23:00.840 Where you have, you know, so you have Jerusalem, which is a religious center.

01:23:04.780 Obviously, there's three main religions represented there.

01:23:07.060 But now you're seeing this little mock Jerusalem sprung up in the Vatican, where now they're letting, like, Mormonism in.

01:23:13.200 They're going to have, like, a place where people from different religions can come and, like, worship.

01:23:19.060 Isn't that strange in some ways?

01:23:20.740 No, it isn't.

01:23:21.340 You want to know why?

01:23:22.540 Do you want to know my opinion?

01:23:24.360 Sure.

01:23:24.700 I think that we have to have one thing that unites everyone.

01:23:29.440 I want to show you this picture.

01:23:31.220 Can you see it?

01:23:33.500 Old guy?

01:23:34.820 Yeah, I see him.

01:23:36.280 Okay.

01:23:36.700 Well, this is the prophet of the church, the prophet, seer, and revelator.

01:23:40.540 When they opened the temple in Italy, down the street from the Vatican.

01:23:46.760 But do you see what he's holding?

01:23:48.760 Yeah, it's a key.

01:23:49.900 Holding the key.

01:23:50.700 And it's Peter's key to the church.

01:23:52.820 And look at how he's holding it.

01:23:54.680 Do you know about Masonic grips?

01:23:57.520 Yeah, I see that.

01:23:58.860 Yeah.

01:23:59.280 I'm not an expert on this.

01:24:01.760 It's not perfect because it's not a hand.

01:24:03.500 It's a key.

01:24:04.060 But I know enough to know that for me, I was like, oh, he's telling a little story right there, right?

01:24:12.540 And so when I seen that, I was thinking to myself, okay, what could you have?

01:24:20.440 Because the Mormons are really involved in the United Nations, One World, everything, all of it.

01:24:26.460 They love all that shit.

01:24:28.480 They'll say they don't, but they do.

01:24:30.480 Some of them say they do.

01:24:31.880 Some of them will admit it.

01:24:33.200 But here's the thing that I know that Masonry does.

01:24:37.160 They say, you just can't be an atheist.

01:24:41.460 One nation under Masonry?

01:24:43.780 One world under Masonry?

01:24:46.120 If they just go that route, like you said, where they can all worship whatever it is they worship,

01:24:52.980 and they don't have to be like, you know, no, you can't come.

01:24:57.240 You know, that is a way to bring it all together.

01:25:02.580 Like, think about that.

01:25:03.460 They're all Masons.

01:25:04.600 And our church, well, I say our.

01:25:07.140 It's not my church anymore.

01:25:08.960 But I just always say that.

01:25:10.420 But in the background, you've got all this channeling.

01:25:13.160 So it goes back to like, you said you were talking about this concept of lower level beings.

01:25:20.200 And you kind of talk to them, and then you get access to another higher panel, right?

01:25:26.320 They believe in the preexistence.

01:25:28.660 And you know what the Mormons call their God?

01:25:31.780 The Elohim.

01:25:33.620 Yeah, that's what Steiner called it.

01:25:35.260 That's not one God.

01:25:36.660 That's God.

01:25:38.440 It's God in the panel.

01:25:40.780 That's what Steiner was talking about, 100%.

01:25:42.600 Yes, when I read it, I was like, oh, I recognize a lot of this.

01:25:48.640 But that's what they say their God is.

01:25:50.480 And they talk about having their own planet, just like Scientology.

01:25:53.620 And they talk about all this stuff and being your own God, like becoming God,

01:25:58.160 that will be elevated to Godhood and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:26:01.200 Okay, well, the one thing I know about the occult, and the occult will tell you this.

01:26:05.920 And this is why they do what they do.

01:26:08.220 They will tell you that ceremonies and ceremonial magic, hence why they even freaking do it.

01:26:16.280 Otherwise, they wouldn't waste their time.

01:26:18.100 It matters in the ether.

01:26:20.200 It doesn't just matter here.

01:26:22.120 It matters in the ether.

01:26:24.040 And Mormons constantly at the temple are doing ceremonial magic.

01:26:28.460 They may not know that, but I know that because I've done it.

01:26:31.720 And so when you're talking about these things and how they make a difference in the ethers,

01:26:37.720 I truly believe they are contacting things.

01:26:41.140 And I'm going to tell you a little another dig.

01:26:43.500 And I told you before we started, the Marriott's, the whole chain is owned by Mormons.

01:26:49.920 The Marriott's are a very affluent Mormon family.

01:26:53.020 And I told Tim right before we came on, I said, guess what the Marriott Hotel's name is in Hawaii?

01:26:59.620 And he said, what?

01:27:01.240 And I said, Kona Blue.

01:27:03.360 Wow.

01:27:03.940 And if you guys don't know what that means, it's a big deal.

01:27:07.180 It's basically a nod to aliens.

01:27:09.680 Yeah.

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01:28:38.660 It's a UFO connection for sure.

01:28:41.500 Yeah, you know, that whole concept with the ether thing is very interesting

01:28:45.200 because I think Steiner, in so many words or less,

01:28:48.140 was actually describing the same thing.

01:28:49.820 But it's also the story of Isis in ancient Egypt.

01:28:54.020 She was like the first alchemist.

01:28:56.080 She was doing magic, and she opened up some sort of a doorway

01:29:02.140 and was able to talk to a lower-level angel.

01:29:04.860 They had a conversation, and that angel could not answer Isis

01:29:10.400 and give her the information she needed.

01:29:12.240 So he called on a higher angel who came down,

01:29:16.320 and that's how she got clued into the mysteries.

01:29:19.440 That's how she became this great alchemist.

01:29:22.460 How is it that all the mystery schools still survive, Tim?

01:29:26.880 Where are they?

01:29:27.920 Answer me that.

01:29:29.120 We started this show off with it.

01:29:31.060 It's an esoteric.

01:29:32.900 It's the church.

01:29:34.000 It's the churches.

01:29:36.100 The churches are all so corrupt, and this is why I truly believe.

01:29:40.360 When we think about the scriptures, and it says what?

01:29:44.120 The scarlet whore of Babylon, right?

01:29:47.000 I think it's religion.

01:29:49.400 I do.

01:29:50.200 I do because it took what God made and corrupted it and made it dirty.

01:29:55.300 It talks all about if you really look at it with a different eye

01:29:59.140 and you look at that and say,

01:30:01.280 what is the one thing that really would be horrible corruption, right, to God?

01:30:07.200 It's telling you that you have to go through a man or another person

01:30:11.060 or pay so much money or whatever you have to do to talk to God.

01:30:15.300 That isn't what he said.

01:30:16.840 That's not what he said.

01:30:19.660 I hear you.

01:30:20.340 You know, that's a good, that's a cool take on, on the war of Babylon.

01:30:24.080 That's a very interesting, and that, that comes into play in Revelation too,

01:30:27.480 if I'm not mistaken.

01:30:28.880 Yes.

01:30:29.480 Yes.

01:30:29.860 And, and they'll all drink from her cup and think about,

01:30:33.540 think about the Eucharist, read this scripture again,

01:30:36.280 and think about like, like the cup and the Eucharist.

01:30:40.120 And, and so what, what they've done is they've literally perverted everything,

01:30:45.280 even down to, you know, I'll drink the cup for you,

01:30:50.260 like the pain and suffering that Jesus went through.

01:30:52.300 They've changed with the Mandela effect.

01:30:54.680 And I know this, it sounds crazy, but I'm sorry.

01:30:58.460 The lion and the lamb laying together, the lion is, is Judah.

01:31:03.880 Like the lion is representative of something where the wolf is not the same thing.

01:31:09.300 It may represent something, but it's not the same something, you know,

01:31:13.820 think about it is so different symbolically.

01:31:17.360 And so it changed the meaning of the word.

01:31:20.400 So I know when I was young and I'm sure when you were young,

01:31:23.260 I was always told they're going to come for our Bibles.

01:31:25.920 Right.

01:31:26.360 And that, you know, they're going to come and cut our head off one day or something

01:31:29.740 because of that.

01:31:31.060 And that's fine, whatever.

01:31:32.020 But like, I don't think they're going to come for the Bibles that way.

01:31:35.480 I think they're going to change them spiritually.

01:31:39.300 Well, something is happening.

01:31:41.180 Something is happening there, especially with that verse lion and the lamb,

01:31:45.960 because everybody remembers that preachers.

01:31:48.640 I've told you my story.

01:31:50.580 I was two years ago, I was in church and the pastor used it in a sermon.

01:31:54.580 And we all had our Bibles open.

01:31:56.700 He had his Bible open.

01:31:58.320 And I don't know.

01:31:59.000 I think it's just so ingrained in his mind that that's what it is,

01:32:01.640 that he wasn't paying attention.

01:32:02.760 But, you know, this was a pastor who is not a pastor who does like the self-help kind of sermons.

01:32:09.660 This is somebody who preaches out of the word because they've been in it for 40 years.

01:32:14.380 So if it's fooling these guys, something changed.

01:32:20.060 I feel like.

01:32:20.740 Something is changing.

01:32:21.420 Well, and I think it has to do with CERN and I think CERN has, and we've talked about that.

01:32:27.160 And I think CERN has a lot to do with a lot of things, but like, even if you can't prove it,

01:32:32.960 like, I'm sorry, like the, okay, the angel of death that came to kill all the firstborns,

01:32:40.160 right?

01:32:40.440 That never happened now.

01:32:41.860 Right.

01:32:42.260 It's like God killed them.

01:32:43.880 That's crazy.

01:32:44.960 So in.

01:32:45.300 Shout out, Kerwin.

01:32:46.300 Shout out, John Kerwin.

01:32:47.260 In Revelation, when it talks about the whore of Babylon, I don't think it's too many verses

01:32:53.520 later where it talks about Abaddon or Apollo.

01:32:58.940 They're, they're interchangeably.

01:33:00.260 One's Roman, one's Greek, but CERN sits on an old temple to Apollo.

01:33:05.740 Read it again with your eyes, the way like now hearing that and, and knowing what we know

01:33:12.040 about just this situation.

01:33:13.700 And we're just talking about JFK and how they infiltrated through churches and just

01:33:19.100 knowing what you've heard from me about my church, my old church, you know, the Mormons

01:33:23.920 and, and what you've heard about this situation with JFK and all these things, even spirituality,

01:33:29.400 they're doing it through everything.

01:33:31.820 They're doing it.

01:33:33.140 They're using even aliens.

01:33:34.720 Like they're using all of it.

01:33:36.640 What if that verse, what if that's what that passage is?

01:33:39.860 I'm going to have to go back through and look at it and see if that passage is referring

01:33:43.920 to the Bible being changed or it like what you're saying, like Babylon is religion.

01:33:49.900 And then it talks about Abaddon where the gates, the pits of hell are going to open up.

01:33:54.360 Cause I think it might be talking about CERN there.

01:33:56.700 What if it's, what if that's what it's laying out?

01:33:59.160 I mean, I want to be careful because I need to look at it again.

01:34:02.140 I mean, and we're just bouncing right now, but here's the thing.

01:34:06.280 I know this.

01:34:07.560 I know that Joseph Smith, he talked to something and I, I know this because I heard a story

01:34:13.720 one day I was just listening to podcasts on the Congressionals or no confessionals.

01:34:19.760 That's right.

01:34:20.340 I don't want to misquote their show.

01:34:21.580 And they had a guy on and he was talking about speaking in the woods to a frog that turned

01:34:29.860 into a man and I immediately whipped my head around and turned it on pause.

01:34:34.240 I was like, Holy cow.

01:34:35.680 Cause I didn't have my phone right with me.

01:34:37.380 Cause I had my earphone and I went to go find my phone.

01:34:40.060 I rewound it.

01:34:40.680 And I was like, did he just say he talked to a frog that turned into a man?

01:34:44.620 Cause that is the same thing that Joseph Smith said.

01:34:47.540 And Joseph didn't, I think this, this is new for you guys.

01:34:52.100 This is really esoteric key, but it won't be new for Tim probably, but there is a book called

01:34:57.180 the mage and it talks about the abermelon and, and so the abermelon ritual, I truly believe

01:35:04.020 that Joseph Smith did it because there was a cave where they were doing things by candlelight

01:35:08.420 and spooky stuff.

01:35:09.320 And there was like bones in there, all kinds of weird stuff.

01:35:12.060 And I'm telling you guys, I think he did the abermelon ritual, but there's a part of,

01:35:17.120 right.

01:35:18.220 Um, yeah, I don't think it, the mage is, but no, no, I mean, he used that too.

01:35:23.740 No, I mean like it was, it was a book.

01:35:25.300 I should have said that differently.

01:35:26.720 It's small.

01:35:27.580 It's one of the books that he liked to use, right?

01:35:29.940 Yes.

01:35:30.460 And here's the thing.

01:35:31.420 He called Joseph Smith Crowley himself who never met Joseph Smith.

01:35:35.800 Cause there he was already dead and he called Joseph Smith, a moon child.

01:35:40.840 And I think what happened was Joseph Smith did that wrong.

01:35:46.000 And people that do that, cause I've done a whole bunch of research on it.

01:35:50.280 People that actively participate in certain magic will tell you, if you don't know what you're

01:35:55.100 doing, don't do it because you could really screw your life up and you're supposed to

01:36:00.660 seal off the negative spirits when you do this.

01:36:03.340 And then like attached to your angel, but he started going by in his notes in like, like

01:36:09.700 when he would write to like secret people, like a secret note, whatever he started going

01:36:14.780 by Barack A L B A R U K A L E like an angel, but it's also not an angel in another, like,

01:36:25.340 I think it's in a Jewish mysticism where it is actually like a demon of lust.

01:36:31.340 And what happened with Joseph Smith, they told him by the tip of a sword, you will do polygamy

01:36:37.820 and polyamory.

01:36:39.160 And what is that spirit?

01:36:40.920 Oh, the spirit of lust.

01:36:42.200 It's a little too pinky for me.

01:36:45.280 You know, did he bond himself with something that he couldn't get rid of just like John

01:36:49.740 D and I'm telling, and then he made the Jupiter talisman to try and save his ass.

01:36:54.900 And he made it wrong.

01:36:56.380 Cause I read a whole article on it and somebody, I think it was LaVenta that's Peter LaVenta

01:37:02.420 has covered Mormons and he's like, well, at least Joseph Smith.

01:37:06.400 And he's like, the reason why he died is this is wrong.

01:37:09.600 This is like a bad, bad thing.

01:37:11.720 So isn't that mage is, was, was that a book that was written about a guy who went to North

01:37:17.940 Africa and ended up hanging out with this old magician who was giving him all these secrets

01:37:24.140 from a, you know, from a prior era?

01:37:26.980 It's, if it's not, let me tell you who wrote it.

01:37:29.400 Let me tell you, it's a tiny, it's a tiny book and it's old and it's called, um, the

01:37:35.920 book of the sacred magic of Abra Mellon, the mage.

01:37:40.180 And it was McGregor's math.

01:37:41.860 Well, McGregor's mathers translated it.

01:37:45.500 Right.

01:37:45.840 Mathers translate it.

01:37:47.020 Mathers was the head of the O S.

01:37:49.380 Yes.

01:37:50.000 Uh, no T, excuse me.

01:37:52.060 In, in London or in England.

01:37:54.440 No, no, not the O T.O.

01:37:57.460 Oh, golden dawn.

01:37:58.260 I'm sorry, golden dawn.

01:37:59.980 But, but no, so I've read part of that book and it's about this guy who goes to Africa,

01:38:05.780 I think, nor somewhere in Northern Africa or maybe Egypt.

01:38:09.240 And he ends up hanging out with this old sort of a witch doctor character who teaches him

01:38:14.900 all this, this old magic and stuff.

01:38:17.160 It's really wild, but that's just like Martinism.

01:38:20.660 That's the book that Crowley, yeah, exactly.

01:38:23.220 That's the book that Crowley was using for his rituals that he was doing at the Bolskine

01:38:29.340 house on, on Loch Ness.

01:38:32.120 Yes.

01:38:33.000 And, and he just, people think, or they say they, he'd never closed or sealed off like

01:38:38.580 those bad spirits.

01:38:39.340 Like you're talking about, he like never closed the portal.

01:38:41.560 Same with Jack Parsons.

01:38:42.180 Jack Parsons.

01:38:42.820 That's what they say that he didn't close it.

01:38:44.860 And so here's the thing it's to bind your guardian angel to you, but when you're binding

01:38:51.180 things to you, and this is why I argue about the Mormon church, because the first time you

01:38:57.300 go through the temple, the very, very first time when you get your new name and you go

01:39:02.460 through for yourself, I speculate that that is kind of the way they're attaching something

01:39:10.120 to us.

01:39:10.740 Okay.

01:39:11.340 And then they're redoing it again and again and again and again and again by proxy via

01:39:16.660 death.

01:39:17.240 And so when you get out and you realize that you could have hundreds, if not thousands of

01:39:23.860 spirits attached to you, um, and then people wonder like, why wonder why Mormons are super

01:39:30.260 successful?

01:39:30.920 Or I wonder why this was like, hello, maybe there's a reason for that.

01:39:35.600 And these people honest are honestly not in knowledge of it.

01:39:39.700 And it's sad to me because this kind of thing, whether it's true or not, they are, they are

01:39:45.940 practicing magic and the people are unaware.

01:39:48.620 And so it makes me really upset because it's one thing to be a practicing magician and accept

01:39:55.320 the responsibility and say, I have no qualms.

01:39:58.920 If you want to do that in your life, you knock yourself out.

01:40:01.440 I'm not doing that.

01:40:02.780 That's a mess for me.

01:40:04.000 But like, if you want to do it, go do that.

01:40:06.900 But you have to be fair and at least know what the heck you're doing.

01:40:11.600 Heidi, it's that, it's that third, fourth generation haze.

01:40:15.060 It's like the concept is if you teach a group of people how to do it, but you don't tell

01:40:21.200 them that it's magic by the time the second and third and then fourth generation of their

01:40:25.720 kids rolls around, their kids are just going to repeat what their parents have done.

01:40:29.680 And they're not going to, they're not going to have any inclination that is based off of

01:40:33.900 rites and rituals that's found.

01:40:35.700 Well, they changed it.

01:40:36.680 They tried to change it to make it seem very biblical too, and really tried to focus it

01:40:43.800 in on the Solomon stuff.

01:40:46.020 But also here's the thing that I haven't told you since, because I haven't talked to you

01:40:49.560 about Mormonism forever, but I have learned we could do one on this whole mage thing.

01:40:54.640 And this other guy, this other magician that he linked up with, but here's the thing is

01:41:00.080 Joseph Smith's family.

01:41:01.940 They want to say, oh, they're from New York.

01:41:03.380 If you ask anyone, they'll tell you Palmyra, Palmyra, New York.

01:41:07.020 No, they weren't.

01:41:08.060 His family hails from Salem, Massachusetts, and his great grandpa was an accuser of witches

01:41:15.080 in the Inquisition.

01:41:16.760 So I'm sorry.

01:41:18.680 Usually the people that are like, that's the one that did it.

01:41:22.680 A lot of times they're the ones that did it, right?

01:41:25.960 Like, you know, me thinks you protest too much.

01:41:29.180 I mean, you know, it's, it's a hotspot area.

01:41:31.880 New England is where the spiritualist movement came out.

01:41:35.540 Well, there was a mound too.

01:41:37.200 He calls it the Hill Cumorah instead of a mound.

01:41:39.880 But I think he found some really serious things there, just like we're talking about.

01:41:44.760 I think the Mormon church possesses something that has ensured their place in society.

01:41:51.640 Because why is this weird church that's basically like a cult?

01:41:55.880 I mean, they would never let Scientologists go be a freaking big part of the government.

01:42:01.600 Okay.

01:42:02.120 But yet Mitt Romney's there.

01:42:03.700 All these other people are there, you know, like, not just Mitt Romney, but like, okay,

01:42:08.280 we're going to talk a lot about, you know, this whole situation with Bennett.

01:42:13.040 We'll use Bennett.

01:42:13.840 The Bennett's have been really involved in government.

01:42:16.080 And all of these people that they let in the door, why would they do that unless there's

01:42:22.020 a reason?

01:42:22.640 Because it's kind of a weird background.

01:42:25.400 And it's also hard to sell to people like, oh, they wear magic underwear and da, da, da,

01:42:29.340 da, da, da.

01:42:29.800 Like, even the funny parts of it, like, people are turned off by that, basically.

01:42:34.020 You know, they're like, oh, that's weird.

01:42:36.440 So why are they so involved in politics, right?

01:42:39.380 Why are they so rich?

01:42:42.260 Yeah.

01:42:43.580 Well, you know, there's-

01:42:45.640 Why are they growing up mountains?

01:42:47.300 Yeah.

01:42:47.500 We had that conversation in the last episode where we kind of tapped into this idea that

01:42:52.100 there are these high society cults and, you know, money and power is just a part of it.

01:42:57.860 It goes back to bloodlines and all that.

01:43:00.340 Like, very rich people who are leaders of nations for a very long time have been part

01:43:07.500 of this weird occult religion that we're not privy to.

01:43:12.060 The American people and the people of the world don't know that this is going on because

01:43:15.480 it's been hidden.

01:43:16.940 It's been, you know, it's esoteric.

01:43:19.140 Well, and it sounds ridiculous, right?

01:43:20.620 Like, if you were to really tell people, like, you know what?

01:43:23.080 All of these people have been pre-picked for this by their bloodlines.

01:43:26.840 Why do you think that all these people, like, oh, he's in government too, and he's in government

01:43:31.700 too, or he's in jet propulsion too, and he, you know, it's already predestined.

01:43:36.400 Yeah.

01:43:36.720 It's the same thing.

01:43:37.140 It's exactly, that's a microcosm for what we're talking about.

01:43:40.520 That seance of the nine right now, because they're rich, they're powerful, they're very

01:43:44.920 connected, they're doing seances and they're channeling, and they're in bed with the government

01:43:50.180 and the CIA.

01:43:51.520 And money.

01:43:52.380 Yep.

01:43:52.800 All of it.

01:43:53.640 Yep.

01:43:53.880 And money talks.

01:43:55.160 They can just slip the money, because honestly, if you have certain knowledge, like, I speculate

01:44:01.300 this, if they have the power.

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01:45:32.360 To create by harnessing energy from the things that are happening in those temples, right?

01:45:37.900 And they are grabbing it and using it to their advantage.

01:45:41.620 Why do they care about money?

01:45:42.720 They can make some more.

01:45:45.060 They turn down money for power.

01:45:46.920 I've seen that happen in multiple times, especially when you're looking into JFK assassination

01:45:51.700 type cases.

01:45:53.780 You'll see where they will try to bribe somebody.

01:45:57.560 This is how politics works.

01:45:59.260 It's like LBJ, for instance.

01:46:01.680 LBJ blackmailed his way into becoming vice president.

01:46:05.140 The Kennedy brothers did not want him there, but he was able to blackmail his way there.

01:46:09.900 And then you see in the LBJ administration where he doesn't want certain people around

01:46:15.460 him.

01:46:16.000 So he offers them like a million dollar ranch in Mexico just to get them out of his hair.

01:46:22.280 And sometimes those people won't take the million dollar ranch because they want the

01:46:26.280 power.

01:46:26.860 They want the position.

01:46:27.760 They'd rather take the pay cut.

01:46:29.400 So power is a big part of this, I think.

01:46:32.380 It's a it's a big deal that and the whole esoteric side of things, because even Trump,

01:46:37.600 like we're going to talk about with Vanover and all that stuff, like all of the contacts,

01:46:43.340 all of the stuff from Tesla, like all of these things that remind me exactly of Pew

01:46:48.320 Harvich.

01:46:48.920 Like he had how many patents he knew, how many things about special stuff, like we're

01:46:53.900 talking about a car that runs on water, like we're in here, you know, it's just blown

01:46:59.460 out of the blown out of there because, oh, we can't be doing that.

01:47:02.800 The oil company.

01:47:03.740 Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking to earlier when I was talking about this weird

01:47:08.800 Trump Nixon connection, because they were friends, you know, Trump, they were going

01:47:14.740 to the same church.

01:47:16.080 They had this Swedenborg minister, right?

01:47:18.100 There's this they're this in this elite circle.

01:47:20.400 But behind the scenes, there's this what you're talking about.

01:47:23.600 There's this weird high technology stuff that the public is not privy to that these guys

01:47:29.620 know about Nixon.

01:47:31.000 And nobody would believe it.

01:47:32.340 Nobody would believe it anyway.

01:47:33.780 If you told somebody.

01:47:35.580 John Trump, I saw an interview with him.

01:47:37.860 If I said this before, I'm sorry, but he was talking about how in Tesla's files, he was

01:47:44.000 trying to find stuff that we could use militarily.

01:47:46.400 Right.

01:47:46.760 And and and for space, you know, whatever voyages and stuff.

01:47:51.780 But he saw that there was a laser there that enabled them to take objects out of the sky.

01:47:57.760 You could just aim it at something that was flying.

01:47:59.920 Whatever it wasn't would bring it down.

01:48:02.060 And I've often wondered, is that what happened with Roswell?

01:48:04.920 Did they actually know what happened with 9-11?

01:48:07.720 Yeah.

01:48:08.540 Yeah.

01:48:08.740 I mean, it's crazy what these people have, you know, access to like Trump.

01:48:15.460 Like, I just feel like he started Space Force because behind the scenes, he's got these

01:48:21.600 crazy aerospace tech connections that came from Tesla and maybe his friend Nixon.

01:48:27.000 For sure.

01:48:28.340 Well, and Nixon plays a big part with the Mormon church and the Mormon mafia and and Bennett and

01:48:34.160 all these people.

01:48:35.460 And I'm just always like, why is this little dumb random church that should have not ever

01:48:42.360 mattered?

01:48:42.860 Like they ran away.

01:48:44.300 They tried to leave the country.

01:48:45.800 They went to Mexico and then, you know, Utah got bought back into America.

01:48:50.480 So like, but why then did they help finish the they're running for their lives, but then

01:48:56.300 they're helping finish the railroad for free.

01:48:58.900 And then crazy.

01:49:00.240 Yeah.

01:49:00.740 Like that's that's that doesn't make any sense.

01:49:03.440 You know, like you're literally saying, here I am.

01:49:06.820 I'm over here.

01:49:07.760 Like you're not scared of anything then.

01:49:10.000 And why are so many of them and you wouldn't know this, but this is true.

01:49:14.300 So many of the prophets of the church are friends, very good friends with the presidents

01:49:20.320 of the United States.

01:49:21.840 And why is my bloodline insane?

01:49:26.300 And I'm not the only one.

01:49:28.020 I'm not the only one.

01:49:29.540 They brought royals over here for a reason.

01:49:32.580 There's a reason.

01:49:33.380 We're going to have to do something on that eventually.

01:49:35.300 Your bloodline.

01:49:36.380 I've mentioned it a few times.

01:49:38.700 So you're good.

01:49:39.740 However way that you're, you know, comfortable with it.

01:49:42.640 I'm good.

01:49:43.300 Yeah.

01:49:43.440 Okay.

01:49:43.660 Well, but like, so why did my great, great grandpa come over here and leave the house

01:49:50.200 of bourbon?

01:49:51.200 And then on the other side, it's like, uh, the other really famous family.

01:49:55.340 Why can't people are Antoinette and all that people are going to, people are not going to

01:49:59.980 even believe this until we show them that it's that big.

01:50:03.520 It's a huge story.

01:50:04.360 Your bloodline is it.

01:50:05.880 You were.

01:50:06.260 I don't know what happened.

01:50:08.800 I told you, I had a theory that, uh, they started having boys and somehow that messed

01:50:15.500 it up.

01:50:16.000 Like, because you're from a long line of women who were, uh, basically princesses and Queens

01:50:23.020 and just women of, of high power and, and responsibility.

01:50:26.160 It was very rich, Marie Antoinette and like all these crazy people.

01:50:31.360 But then my great, the guy that came here, he's just like, peace out bitches.

01:50:36.600 Like I'm not, I'm, and they contacted him.

01:50:39.280 I found his story and he went to South Africa first.

01:50:42.700 And then he came here and then they were like, you need to come back and rule.

01:50:47.060 Like we need you, you know?

01:50:48.920 And you know what?

01:50:49.600 He was like, no, I'd rather be a dirt poor farmer.

01:50:52.360 What?

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01:51:53.580 Why?

01:51:54.500 Why would you do that?

01:51:55.840 And so it must have been that bad.

01:51:58.060 You know what I'm saying?

01:51:58.860 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:59.920 For people, I still, yeah, I think there was probably a lot of factors.

01:52:03.660 And for people listening, like Heidi's told me all this and like, she finally, she just

01:52:09.340 sent me something one day.

01:52:10.500 She showed me a family tree.

01:52:13.460 And I was having a meltdown.

01:52:15.020 And I saw some names on there.

01:52:17.060 So I was like, wow, this is crazy.

01:52:18.660 These people are like history book famous.

01:52:21.080 So I looked into it and she's absolutely right.

01:52:24.920 Heidi is a part of a straight up legitimate royal bloodline.

01:52:29.320 And I found that when it goes back to who's the queen, Elizabeth, is that one of them?

01:52:35.900 Let's see.

01:52:36.820 One of them was, let's see, Prince Edward of Strathairn, King George of Hanover, Frederick

01:52:42.140 Prince of Wales, Victoria, Victoria's back queen that you're related to who was famous

01:52:48.640 for Marie Antoinette.

01:52:51.080 Yeah, okay.

01:52:52.120 Maybe it was her.

01:52:53.460 But I looked back, it goes back, it's a lineage of women that were all married.

01:53:01.020 The Medici's.

01:53:01.880 Yes.

01:53:02.440 The Medici's are like a big, huge part.

01:53:05.700 I traced it back to the 1200s.

01:53:10.700 And I would need more time with it after that, because that's when the records start to get

01:53:15.080 a little hazy, right?

01:53:15.980 Right.

01:53:16.260 But there were, there were, there was about a line of about 10 women that were all, they

01:53:24.320 were like all their daughters were, were Queens.

01:53:26.940 Yeah.

01:53:27.120 It's, it's absolutely crazy.

01:53:29.360 But you know, we can, we can maybe do something.

01:53:32.060 I think we should do something on that.

01:53:33.360 Oh yeah, for sure.

01:53:34.840 And it was weird because you know, what I'm saying is why would one of my, but why did

01:53:41.980 they become Mormons?

01:53:42.960 Right.

01:53:43.260 Why would they just say, screw this?

01:53:45.640 And it wasn't that long ago.

01:53:46.980 It's only like four up, you know, we're, we're back in England.

01:53:50.660 Why would they just be like, peace out, bitches?

01:53:53.500 Like what?

01:53:54.860 And no money.

01:53:56.020 They were poor, like literally came here and ended up poor.

01:53:59.740 So what the hell did the Mormon church tell them to get them to do that?

01:54:05.680 You know what I mean?

01:54:06.780 Yeah.

01:54:06.920 And I think too, something happened with that guy.

01:54:10.660 Maybe it was your great grandpa or something.

01:54:12.640 The one who went to South Africa and started.

01:54:15.020 Yeah.

01:54:15.100 He's the one.

01:54:15.920 Yep.

01:54:16.100 He started a city in South Africa.

01:54:18.780 Yeah.

01:54:19.520 And there was a war going on there before that, like with the British, there was it, your,

01:54:24.580 your family ties into so many historical events.

01:54:27.640 It's unreal.

01:54:29.380 So it's unfathomable.

01:54:30.800 Like people aren't going to believe it until we lay it out.

01:54:33.320 If we.

01:54:33.660 Well, and then I didn't send you the other.

01:54:36.080 So I sent you my mom's side, but my dad's side is all the presidents, all the presidents,

01:54:41.880 all the presidents.

01:54:42.780 Like United States presidents.

01:54:45.020 Yes.

01:54:45.460 It's a bloodline.

01:54:46.720 That's how Elvis and Elvis.

01:54:48.700 Yeah.

01:54:49.160 You know what?

01:54:50.220 You know what?

01:54:50.880 I think if we, I think if we did this show, it would be very valuable because it would show

01:54:58.100 people how the bloodline thing is real.

01:55:00.760 People in power are really part of these bloodlines, folks.

01:55:05.100 They really are.

01:55:06.180 Well, and that's the thing.

01:55:08.460 I think they were hurting, like for lack of a better word, they were literally hurting certain

01:55:13.960 people and genealogies to come here.

01:55:16.620 And then what is the Mormon church obsessed with?

01:55:19.440 Genealogy.

01:55:20.180 Yeah.

01:55:20.820 I'm sorry.

01:55:22.600 Yeah.

01:55:22.920 Yeah.

01:55:24.000 They're like the purveyors of genealogy, but I'm thinking like, just because these files

01:55:30.100 are about to be released, just to like recap, right?

01:55:33.640 Like Garrison says what he says, you know, the assassination is carried out by these people

01:55:39.780 in aerospace.

01:55:40.320 Obviously we know it was covered up by the CIA.

01:55:43.280 So that puts those two groups at the scene of the crime for me.

01:55:46.980 And then, and then in aerospace, you have people involved who were these paperclip Nazis

01:55:52.060 and they work with the CIA to, to do coups.

01:55:56.260 I think, because if you look at it, like Herman Dex is a coup company that, that company is

01:56:02.300 known and we'll get into that.

01:56:03.620 And also, it also explains why like Howard Hughes was so freaking crazy scared for his

01:56:10.400 life and like all alone, like, and that goes into a whole nother, cause I told you about

01:56:15.680 the Oswald, they were playing him like a, they were playing him like a chess piece through

01:56:20.500 all this.

01:56:21.380 Well, and it's so sad and Sirhan Sirhan's even worse cause he's still alive, but like some

01:56:27.260 of the pictures I have of these people, like I literally got asked on my last one because

01:56:32.580 I had Nixon with Jack Ruby and who else was it?

01:56:39.060 I can't have one more person.

01:56:40.600 And somebody literally said to me, is this fake?

01:56:43.640 I've never seen this before.

01:56:44.960 I said, no, it's real.

01:56:47.320 And they were like, what on earth?

01:56:49.960 And I'm like, I don't know.

01:56:52.260 You know, they were at some convention right before the whole thing popped off.

01:56:55.980 And I was like, obviously they knew each other.

01:56:58.680 Like they're trying to play like they didn't, you know, and they did.

01:57:02.580 You know what else is interesting here?

01:57:05.000 LBJ helped develop NASA.

01:57:08.640 So he was all in on this aerospace stuff too.

01:57:12.720 You know, we'll see, we'll see what the files show.

01:57:16.120 You know, I don't know if the aerospace thing is going to be like front and center.

01:57:19.560 I doubt it will be.

01:57:20.580 I don't think when these files are released that they're just going to spell out the main

01:57:25.000 players for us.

01:57:26.240 But I do think that you'll see an aerospace connection there definitely behind the scenes,

01:57:31.820 especially if you're reading between the lines.

01:57:33.720 And I think you're, what you're going to see is that, like, I think this episode has shown

01:57:38.660 this as well.

01:57:39.280 The CIA kind of created this mythos of Oswald.

01:57:42.340 They, they, it's almost like they created the perfect assassin who didn't assassinate anyone.

01:57:49.740 Oh, you're muted, by the way.

01:57:54.940 You're still muted.

01:57:56.240 But yeah, I mean, there were people that were playing him and people that were like pretending

01:58:07.780 to be him and all kinds of people.

01:58:09.760 Oh yeah, they had it.

01:58:11.200 They had a whole thing set up.

01:58:13.360 They had many, multiple Oswalds.

01:58:15.260 It's crazy.

01:58:15.800 Bush.

01:58:16.360 Look at this.

01:58:17.180 Can you see this?

01:58:19.760 Nixon.

01:58:20.020 Prescott Bush with Nixon and Jack Ruby.

01:58:23.460 Unreal.

01:58:24.020 Guys, this was at some convention, but they want to say that Ruby was just wacko and he

01:58:30.260 was just a nightclub owner.

01:58:31.440 What the hell is he doing there?

01:58:32.920 What the hell is he doing with presidents?

01:58:35.740 Right.

01:58:36.280 And like, well, Prescott wasn't, but you get what I'm saying.

01:58:39.260 He was from the CIA.

01:58:40.780 So I mean, it's just too much.

01:58:42.920 It's like overkill.

01:58:45.260 It's literally overkill.

01:58:46.600 Well, they MK ultra Jack Ruby in the end.

01:58:50.040 They definitely did.

01:58:51.200 What if that's the thing with a Puharich or whatever?

01:58:54.940 It makes you wonder if he, he was successful with his little laser that said it could change

01:59:00.660 his brain, people's brains, you know, I don't know, but did you, did you find out any more

01:59:07.260 stuff on that cone of blue?

01:59:09.040 Did you like, did you see any more connections with that?

01:59:12.540 I haven't seen, you know, I'll tell you this about Mormons, even though the astrology and

01:59:21.120 all the stuff that Joseph Smith did, he was super into all that.

01:59:24.680 The Mormons are like, nope, nothing like that is real.

01:59:27.940 None of that is real.

01:59:29.480 Aliens aren't real.

01:59:30.540 Like all this stuff is not real, but then they turn around and they're all about the

01:59:34.160 spiritual side.

01:59:35.380 So I'm sure it's going to be a little hard to dig up, but I'm going to be looking because

01:59:40.280 I will, I will say this.

01:59:42.400 I think they are nodding.

01:59:44.360 Like there's certain things that people in power do to screw with other people.

01:59:48.720 And that key in Italy was one.

01:59:51.600 I think they're nodding.

01:59:53.240 Like, don't forget we have this and I don't know what this is, but it makes you wonder

01:59:58.700 when we get back to the Anna Nürbe society, like maybe they made good enough friends with

02:00:04.800 somebody that they got their hands on something pretty damn good.

02:00:07.280 You know, that's my guess because look at, they were super good friends with Werner von

02:00:12.980 Braun.

02:00:13.420 Like what's he doing in this video?

02:00:15.560 You know?

02:00:16.200 Yeah.

02:00:16.420 Well, he had a UFO.

02:00:18.100 He has UFO connections.

02:00:20.280 There was a guy named Robert.

02:00:21.940 But Mormons, he shouldn't be involved with Mormons.

02:00:25.060 Like that's weird.

02:00:26.340 It was a private church video.

02:00:28.680 Like it's a theological video that no other people were allowed in.

02:00:33.620 Why is he there?

02:00:34.660 I don't know.

02:00:35.500 Well, I mean, there's a couple of people like rolled up in this mess with, with this

02:00:40.040 secret technology and stuff that had seemed like, like Sarbock, Sarbocker, Sarbocker.

02:00:45.540 Yeah.

02:00:45.700 He, he worked under, uh, Eisenhower.

02:00:48.300 He worked in research and development.

02:00:49.800 He, he was, he knew von Braun and he was talking about the bodies that they recovered from the

02:00:55.440 crash sites and how that they were biological robots.

02:00:58.220 They weren't like aliens.

02:01:00.080 They were, they were, they were like, yes, exactly.

02:01:03.000 So it points to this being like an ancient form of high technology.

02:01:07.020 Well, it makes you wonder if that's what Elon's trying to do.

02:01:09.200 Have you seen that video with him talking about how he wants to create, um, with the neural link

02:01:15.900 so that it's basically your body's just a shell and you can upgrade it anytime and all this weird

02:01:21.560 stuff.

02:01:22.000 And I, this is an old one.

02:01:23.620 That's an old video, but I'm just saying like, they're playing with something that they know

02:01:29.040 what they're doing.

02:01:30.100 This isn't like, he just thought about it one day and they're like, oh yeah, no.

02:01:34.280 Yeah.

02:01:34.440 Yeah.

02:01:35.020 I mean, you know, yeah.

02:01:36.720 Like the on an air base society and all the rumors that they were channeling and stuff like that.

02:01:41.500 All of these people might be talking to the same sort of entities that are feeding them the same

02:01:45.860 information.

02:01:46.440 And it goes back to this, this thing that Steiner was talking about where these entities are actively

02:01:51.200 you know, kind of manipulating humanity so that they can come down here and get more power.

02:01:56.380 Oh, I think that's a hundred percent true because if they are indeed the Nephilim spirits that can't

02:02:03.440 have bodies.

02:02:04.560 Okay.

02:02:05.400 They were not.

02:02:06.700 Okay.

02:02:07.080 We're going to say this.

02:02:08.160 They were not allowed or justified to be here because they there, it's not their parents.

02:02:15.300 It's not the fallen.

02:02:16.660 It's the Nephilim.

02:02:18.320 So the half human half.

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02:03:21.040 Angel babies, okay?

02:03:23.180 They never had a spirit from God.

02:03:25.420 So think about that scripture that says they wander in the desert searching for a place

02:03:32.660 to rest, right?

02:03:34.520 And so when you start looking at this from the biblical view and you start looking at it

02:03:39.780 that way and you start going, okay, and possession, what was half, if not three quarters of the

02:03:46.500 Bible, it was all about deliverance.

02:03:48.600 You know, Jesus is running around casting stuff out of people left and right.

02:03:53.300 But yet they want to tell us we don't do that anymore.

02:03:56.380 And now it's just fine to have whatever you got going on, going on.

02:04:00.420 And, you know, like all of the people that are supposed to be saving people don't practice

02:04:05.480 any of that anymore.

02:04:06.820 Why?

02:04:07.540 Jesus did.

02:04:08.920 Jesus did it.

02:04:10.440 Yeah.

02:04:10.600 You know?

02:04:11.380 Yeah.

02:04:11.940 I mean, there's definitely a connection there.

02:04:13.940 You know, some people think that Cain, after he killed Abel, went off and started this

02:04:17.860 like Atlantis-like civilization.

02:04:19.960 And if you look at the work of Edgar Cayce, he thought that what Ezekiel and the Bible

02:04:24.860 was seeing was tech from this Cain Atlantis civilization.

02:04:30.720 We got to do one on Edgar Cayce.

02:04:32.280 We got to make up a name for our show because we usually do about two a month.

02:04:36.440 I know, right?

02:04:37.240 Yeah.

02:04:37.380 Like a combo show.

02:04:38.780 Yeah, we should.

02:04:40.040 Because, I mean, you know, we could just set certain times.

02:04:43.600 Because I love talking with you about this stuff.

02:04:46.060 And I think that we both think, like, study the same way, I guess.

02:04:50.900 Not think the same, but study the same.

02:04:52.920 And so, I think it's good.

02:04:54.100 Yeah, it helps that we both believe that there's a spiritual realm and that it's interacting

02:04:58.060 with us.

02:04:58.760 Like, there's a lot of people who don't have that opinion.

02:05:01.720 And that's okay.

02:05:03.020 But it helps us.

02:05:05.160 It helps the flow of the conversation, in my opinion, that we at least acknowledge that.

02:05:10.020 Yep, because we're on the same level.

02:05:12.600 And here's the thing.

02:05:13.560 Like, people can believe whatever they want.

02:05:15.860 But literally, when you have certain things happen to you in your life, and as a nurse,

02:05:20.060 I have seen so many people die.

02:05:23.020 And the thing is, is all of them, almost all of them, are, like, reaching out to people.

02:05:28.580 Or they'll say, like, somebody's there in the room with them.

02:05:31.420 Or all of this stuff.

02:05:32.460 And I know they want to say it's, like, your DMT and it's releasing and whatever.

02:05:36.240 There's always some explanation.

02:05:37.960 Except for maybe what it really is.

02:05:40.440 You know?

02:05:41.560 And I think there's a realm there, when they cross it, I think that there's certain people,

02:05:47.820 LDS being one of them.

02:05:49.380 And I'm not talking about the regular LDS people.

02:05:51.480 I mean, the top, top.

02:05:52.880 The mystery schools, they've admitted that there's, in the Quorum of the Twelve, there's

02:05:58.260 a secret society inside the Quorum of the Twelve called the Secret, it's like the Special

02:06:04.500 Something Organization.

02:06:06.760 And they basically don't have to answer to anyone.

02:06:09.980 Special Affairs Committee.

02:06:11.340 That's what it is.

02:06:12.400 And so this was not even known to the members.

02:06:15.820 I think they know exactly what they're doing.

02:06:19.220 And I think it has a lot to do with bloodlines.

02:06:21.640 Because I'm not the only one that has a bloodline like that.

02:06:24.380 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:25.600 Yeah.

02:06:26.120 And like, too, I think, for whatever reason, modern Christians have not been taught about

02:06:32.820 the Divine Council and the Elohim that are mentioned in the Bible.

02:06:36.120 And the, you know, Steiner was talking about this, too.

02:06:40.600 And it's like, and I remember Michael Heiser talked a lot about this.

02:06:44.520 Heiser said that Elohim sometimes just referred to, like what we're talking about here, like

02:06:49.320 something intelligent beyond the veil.

02:06:52.420 It's not necessarily a, it's not necessarily God.

02:06:56.320 It's something, it's like a little G God or like many of them.

02:06:59.440 And sometimes it's, sometimes it's maybe even a lower panel than that, like, like entities

02:07:05.140 that work for the little G gods, because I think they have armies and stuff like that.

02:07:09.760 I, you know, it's a kingdom up there, right?

02:07:12.040 It's referred to in many ways like that.

02:07:15.420 Well, I think that if it wasn't, we wouldn't have so many things that we've heard or seen

02:07:22.280 or whatever, like, where did it all come from then?

02:07:25.900 Yeah.

02:07:26.460 You know, it's, I mean, yeah.

02:07:27.720 That's my next thing I was going to say is it gets confusing.

02:07:30.780 The Elohim gets confusing.

02:07:32.180 But like when I was reading Steiner, one of the things that stuck out to me was like,

02:07:36.660 it seemed like he was kind of seeing in his studies that there was like, yes, there's

02:07:43.120 this Ahriman that wants to come to earth and latch onto AI and control people, but running

02:07:48.520 offense to that are some members of the Elohim who are working with the angels who are trying

02:07:53.440 to unify humanity.

02:07:55.500 So it's almost like there's some, uh, battling forces there within the Elohim.

02:08:02.640 Right.

02:08:03.240 Oh, I think a hundred.

02:08:04.520 No, I think a hundred percent.

02:08:06.120 You're right.

02:08:06.400 Because there are people that say the Elohim is just a title for anything.

02:08:10.900 That's like extraterrestrial, not, not here with us on our, our realm.

02:08:16.360 Right.

02:08:16.840 Like, and I don't think it's the sky.

02:08:19.260 I think it's interdimensional when I think of things like that, because the Jewish people

02:08:25.200 say, yeah, if you could see inside of a room, like all of the things that he literally said

02:08:31.660 demons, this was Dr.

02:08:32.800 Justin Sledge.

02:08:33.460 He said, they believe that there are so many demons all around us, like all the time.

02:08:39.800 Like there's just tons of them.

02:08:42.280 And he's like, that's what the Jewish people believe.

02:08:45.180 So they like avoid bathrooms.

02:08:46.600 Like, I mean, they do their business, but they get out of there like quickly.

02:08:49.480 There's certain things they do, but I'm just like, yeah, I mean, you hear about it so much.

02:08:55.280 Like it can't, you hear about it from native Americans.

02:08:57.620 You hear about it from Jewish people.

02:08:59.160 You hear about it from white people.

02:09:00.400 You hear about it from educated white people.

02:09:02.320 You hear about it from backwoods people.

02:09:04.280 I mean, it doesn't even matter.

02:09:05.900 Like definitely hear about it from like Haitian people and African stuff.

02:09:10.080 Like, why is everything always like that?

02:09:14.120 Like if it's in every, yeah.

02:09:16.740 Yeah.

02:09:17.420 Yeah.

02:09:17.860 What the hell happened?

02:09:19.340 Yeah.

02:09:19.700 Yeah.

02:09:19.880 And, and you know, too, and I, and I do, I do like, I know we don't know what's up there

02:09:24.560 because none of us would know we haven't been to space or whatever you want to call it,

02:09:28.060 but like, it does say the heavens in the Bible.

02:09:31.880 So whatever that is up there, it seems like that's the place.

02:09:35.220 And I, and that might be the, the extra dimension.

02:09:38.360 We might be in the third here.

02:09:40.060 And then the fourth might start up there in air quotes space somewhere.

02:09:43.820 I don't know, but I will say this, like in the, in the Bible where it talks about the

02:09:48.820 watchers, it says they came down to Mount Hermon.

02:09:53.060 Right.

02:09:53.860 That just kind of feels like to me, like that they did kind of come from above

02:09:57.720 somehow.

02:09:59.340 Well, I don't know what's up there, but.

02:10:02.700 Or whatever.

02:10:03.800 Like, I just mean there's levels, I guess that's a better.

02:10:06.560 Yeah.

02:10:06.920 Yeah.

02:10:07.240 Yeah.

02:10:07.740 Yeah.

02:10:08.120 And I think that.

02:10:09.600 I like the extra dimensional thing.

02:10:11.540 Yeah.

02:10:12.000 Yeah.

02:10:12.320 Yeah.

02:10:12.620 So I don't know.

02:10:14.780 Yeah.

02:10:15.380 I definitely think there's too many.

02:10:17.500 Oh, I know.

02:10:18.220 No, no.

02:10:18.620 I get what you're saying.

02:10:19.340 I mean, like extra dimensional, whether it's up, down, sideways, I just mean there's levels

02:10:23.960 to this, you know?

02:10:25.080 And I think the lowest level, which only makes sense, right?

02:10:28.860 Like the lowest level are the demons that never had a body because literally there are

02:10:35.740 many spirits that never had a body.

02:10:37.780 If you came here illegally, i.e.

02:10:40.880 half a Nephilim or, you know, you are a Nephilim.

02:10:44.440 So half of an angel, half of a person, then you didn't have a spirit the same as God creating

02:10:50.380 you.

02:10:50.900 You didn't, you know?

02:10:52.880 But I mean, it is what it is.

02:10:55.000 It's not their fault, but also not everything has a spirit.

02:10:57.920 Like the Bible talks about, like, it's not the same thing.

02:11:00.840 You know, some are just, or a body, some are just a spirit.

02:11:04.800 And I mean, Jesus obviously recognizes this to cast out legion for we are many.

02:11:12.460 Like what?

02:11:14.000 That obviously, legion, have you ever looked up?

02:11:17.380 That's like a lot.

02:11:19.260 It's like, I think it's 10,000 or something crazy.

02:11:21.940 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:11:22.600 And so, yeah, it's like so many.

02:11:25.760 I'm like, obviously we've lost something there, but here's the funny thing.

02:11:31.080 The mystery schools never lose shit because they keep their, their stuff tight and they

02:11:37.000 keep their people like tight in.

02:11:38.840 And even if they want to leave, that's fine.

02:11:41.380 But if they start spewing secrets, you get the jelly on your handle of your door and he

02:11:47.000 had a heart attack.

02:11:47.720 Cause you know why?

02:11:48.580 Cause nitro paste is kind of jelly and nitro give you a damn heart attack.

02:11:53.660 Yeah.

02:11:54.140 That's scary stuff.

02:11:55.100 I'm just saying.

02:11:55.760 Yeah.

02:11:56.220 There's so many things.

02:11:57.620 Yeah.

02:11:58.060 That they can do.

02:11:59.040 And also this Pew Harvich, he goes forward and he starts, um, really honing in on how

02:12:05.680 to mind F people hard.

02:12:07.880 He learns how to like psychological warfare.

02:12:10.760 That's what I'm saying.

02:12:11.820 He, that's what I'm saying.

02:12:13.200 The date that you showed where he was doing all this stuff was 1954.

02:12:18.080 MK ultra starts in 1953.

02:12:20.220 Oh, and it said he was a part of MK ultra.

02:12:23.980 I don't know if I told you that.

02:12:25.080 We should definitely do a deeper dive, like an include MK ultra stuff on this, but it

02:12:30.380 does say, um, specifically that he was an integral part of MK ultra.

02:12:36.480 So, yeah.

02:12:37.260 And also he was a part of why so many, um, hallucinogenic drugs got passed out and everything.

02:12:44.460 He was part of that.

02:12:45.460 So, yeah.

02:12:46.780 I think there was another guy and this is short, but I came across this guy, uh, George,

02:12:52.960 Joe and Nitties, Joe and Nitties, something like that.

02:12:56.720 He, he was, uh, they, they think that he like orchestrated the whole Oswald Psyop, like going

02:13:02.840 back to God Bannister and just that whole thing, that whole mess of CIA, like fairy and all

02:13:09.400 them.

02:13:09.640 They were all obviously like somewhat, they were all involved with the CIA, but there

02:13:14.100 was a guy who later got this secret medal, George, Joe and Nitties.

02:13:17.820 And I think that, um, cause a researcher found him on accident while looking into this, he

02:13:23.900 was nobody supposed to know who this guy was, but he's like one of these shadowy CIA guys.

02:13:29.220 So, you know, I wonder if there's a file on George, Joe and Nitties in these JFK files

02:13:37.660 when they're released, if I would go straight to that and look for him, he'd be one of the

02:13:42.360 first guys I look at.

02:13:43.460 Well, and even if they release things like in their entirety, I think, I think there might

02:13:50.820 be some things that have all the information, but they're not going to make it easy.

02:13:55.000 Like, have you ever gone to the FOIA docs where you're like 722 pages?

02:13:59.400 They never go to the page you need, you know, it's going to be hard to find things.

02:14:05.580 And I just think that even if they release the shooter paper, whatever they do, they're not

02:14:11.320 going to release the entirety of like permadex or, I mean, I found a lot of things on permadex

02:14:17.600 in the FOIA docs, but I'm just saying they're not going to release the whole story because

02:14:21.620 the players are still playing.

02:14:23.620 Like they're not going to do that.

02:14:24.960 Like the Bronfmans, all these people that are so critical, like they literally run the

02:14:30.120 world.

02:14:31.000 Like, yeah, it's wild.

02:14:32.920 Do you have any predictions on what we might find in those documents?

02:14:37.840 I know that's not, I don't really, you know, my predictions are kind of loose.

02:14:42.460 The CIA did it.

02:14:43.340 Yeah.

02:14:43.680 The CIA did it.

02:14:45.580 I don't know who did it, but I definitely think the CIA did it.

02:14:49.940 With RFK, 100% Eugene Thane Caesar.

02:14:53.640 If it's Thane, Eugene Caesar, I can't remember which way, but I think he did it.

02:14:57.720 So does RFK, by the way.

02:14:59.560 He, Junior, he talks about this.

02:15:01.820 Um, and other aerospace guy, he was, the Caesar was working for the Mormons.

02:15:08.500 Yep.

02:15:08.960 Working too for the Mormons and Howard Hughes.

02:15:11.180 It, when it gets always, it goes back to Hughes to always goes back to Hughes.

02:15:15.700 I think Hughes, he has a higher IQ than Elon Musk.

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02:16:23.300 I think he might have been smart enough that he might have channeled for real and got something.

02:16:29.380 I think he may have even integrated with something, which would make sense,

02:16:34.460 because maybe that's why he didn't go out of his room,

02:16:37.540 because he didn't want to do certain things anymore or whatever.

02:16:40.820 Like, you know, think about that.

02:16:42.380 Like, there are things in this world that I think that there's something.

02:16:47.660 He knew a lot of things.

02:16:50.660 Like, he was almost too easy for that guy to make money and get rich.

02:16:54.960 He was just good at whatever he touched.

02:16:57.340 And talk about bloodlines.

02:16:59.820 He's related to the Wright brothers.

02:17:02.140 Yep, yep.

02:17:03.580 Yeah, I don't.

02:17:04.980 I mean, and like he knew about this whole breakaway civilization secret airship thing.

02:17:11.520 Yep.

02:17:12.380 I think that there's so much stuff that people that mess with, we'll just say magic, I guess.

02:17:22.800 Maybe you're going to get more than you bargained for if you do the Abermillen and you even do it correctly.

02:17:29.880 Let's say in the perfect world, you do it correctly.

02:17:32.660 You may not want to be bound to something like that.

02:17:35.420 Like, if God wanted us to be like that, God would have made us like that, right?

02:17:39.380 Like, why are we searching for that when we're just supposed to be what?

02:17:43.680 But I think that goes back to the Bible where it says, put your faith in me, not put your faith in other things.

02:17:51.280 Don't be messing around that way.

02:17:53.540 Like, you don't need to do that.

02:17:55.740 You know, I'm here.

02:17:56.740 And I think that's why he also says, I'm a very jealous God.

02:18:00.500 Right.

02:18:01.140 Like, I think he was trying to tell these people like, no, this is too much.

02:18:06.540 You don't, we don't do all that.

02:18:08.280 We just have a relationship.

02:18:09.640 I'm your father, you know?

02:18:11.280 And that's what he really wants with us.

02:18:13.920 He wants that relationship with us.

02:18:16.020 That's what he really wants.

02:18:17.360 He doesn't want all this, you know, you got to do the incense in this way and that way and bow 10 times or go to the temple or he doesn't want that or he would have made us do it.

02:18:28.540 It's pretty easy.

02:18:29.920 I mean, you know.

02:18:31.140 Yeah, it's interesting you see, too, like the structure of the Mormon religion and stuff like that and the people who operate well under that sort of a thing.

02:18:41.460 It's a lot of, it's a lot of going through the motions and rituals and all that stuff.

02:18:47.380 100% rituals, yeah.

02:18:49.400 And then you see the CIA picking people out of Brigham Young University and Utah in general.

02:18:55.680 And on top of it, you're seeing constantly Skull and Bones members.

02:19:01.640 Like these people are Sigma Chi, Rotary Club, Skull and Bones.

02:19:05.880 I'm not just talking about Mormons.

02:19:07.100 I'm talking about in general.

02:19:08.780 These kids are picked out of their family lines early on, very early in life.

02:19:14.860 And, you know, I've heard people describe it as, well, you know, there's one faction of Mormons that are polygamous Mormons and they only keep to themselves and they intermarry just like the Egyptians.

02:19:30.020 And so they say they're the bloodline of Jesus Christ themselves.

02:19:33.520 And you want to talk to me about bloodlines.

02:19:35.500 So I'm like, well, what's their bloodlines look like?

02:19:38.440 It makes you really wonder because then you get into the genealogy stuff and how weird they all were about it.

02:19:44.960 Like, I'm sorry, there is something going on there.

02:19:48.540 Like, clearly, you know, like there's something up.

02:19:53.580 So I think that there's a lot more to stories.

02:19:56.960 But definitely the CIA.

02:19:58.200 There always is.

02:19:59.180 CIA on JFK.

02:20:00.580 Yeah, CIA aerospace for me.

02:20:03.900 I mean, but for sure, but for sure, the CIA, that's the one that I don't have any question about.

02:20:09.560 Yeah, there's there's always more to the story.

02:20:11.700 Like Bush was there that day.

02:20:14.300 You know, well, he's a part of that.

02:20:17.140 Yeah, he's a part of this deep state secret society that's in power, like Nixon and all those guys.

02:20:24.060 I think Nixon was a part of it.

02:20:25.440 But yeah.

02:20:26.000 But no, this has been great.

02:20:27.320 Great information.

02:20:28.420 Awesome.

02:20:29.100 Yeah, it was fun.

02:20:30.000 I always love doing shows with you.

02:20:31.280 It's always a good time.

02:20:32.160 Yeah, me too.

02:20:34.040 Me too.

02:20:34.620 Before I forget.

02:20:36.880 I love tell everyone where they can find you.

02:20:40.060 Awesome.

02:20:40.720 I am Heidi Love.

02:20:41.840 I'm at the Unfiltered Rise podcast.

02:20:43.560 I'm everywhere podcasts are served.

02:20:45.680 I do have my own website now, and it's just unfilteredisepodcast.com.

02:20:50.480 And I have my Patreon, which is two times a month.

02:20:54.160 You'll get two extra episodes all about murders, Mormons and mayhem.

02:20:58.760 And you're not going to want to miss the next one, because we did Israel Keys, because he was a Mormon.

02:21:04.600 So, Tim, for my listeners, will you let everybody know?

02:21:09.240 Yes, I'm Tim Constantine.

02:21:11.220 My show is Sixth Sensory Podcast.

02:21:14.280 I spell it out S-I-X.

02:21:16.080 I'm on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Patreon.

02:21:19.980 And I've got some stuff on Nazis on Patreon right now, just a deep dive into Nazi occultism and the rise of Nazi occultism and all that.

02:21:28.480 But, yeah, Sixth Sensory Podcast is my show.

02:21:31.400 Come be a part.

02:21:33.760 Yes.

02:21:34.120 And you do a great job with, I loved our show together on that presentation.

02:21:38.900 So, you guys check it out, because he does a great job at it.

02:21:42.640 So, give him a listen.

02:21:44.180 It'll probably be more in-depth on his show, because I won't be interrupting.

02:21:48.600 No, we're good.

02:21:49.360 That was, yeah, but, yeah, this has been great.

02:21:52.360 We'll do it again.

02:21:53.040 Then, I'd like to get into more, maybe more of the occult stuff, theosophy stuff.

02:21:59.360 We'll see what happens with the next one.

02:22:01.260 Yes.

02:22:01.880 And Permadex will be coming, hopefully, pretty quick, because we know the other stuff's going to be, hopefully, coming out soon.

02:22:08.680 They had 15 days to respond, but probably have to get it all together and all that stuff.

02:22:14.220 So, who knows?

02:22:16.180 Awesome.

02:22:16.900 Well, we'll catch you guys on the next one.

02:22:18.680 Bye!

02:22:22.100 Awesome.

02:22:23.040 Thank you.

02:22:52.100 Thank you.

02:22:52.140 Thank you.

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