TIME CAPSULE: 043- Breaking the Spell w⧸ Owen Benjamin
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2 hours and 20 minutes
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196.36229
Hate Speech Sentences
206
Summary
Top Lobster ( ) and David Lee Corbo ( ) are joined by writer and comedian Owen Benjamin ( ) to discuss the importance of accountability in the modern world, and why it's still as important as it was back then.
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Top and I thought that we would dredge up the Owen Benjamin episode again
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because I think that the conversation is as important now as it was
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however long ago we did this episode, and if you stick around to the end,
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It feels like a long time ago, but I'm willing to bet that it's not.
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but the conversation around the Jews and accountability has changed.
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Not changed, but it's moved in such a direction
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that I think this episode rings truer now maybe than it did back then.
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it was clear to us that his estimation on it was the way,
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but now that people have failed to implement that
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and they are processing this issue in a very unhealthy way,
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because I do have a lot to say about the implications of that.
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Well, we have the Royper situation and everything else.
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News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
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That is the father of disinformation, Top Lobster.
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but what you do and where they can find your work?
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Well, I'm probably your first actual Nephilim guest,
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I started a career in Hollywood in 2003 on Punk'd.
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Comedy Central specials, sitcoms, all that stuff.
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And now I'm in North Idaho with four little kids and a farm
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and trying to figure out how a Nephilim fits in in the world.
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Listen, Owen, you're like one of the people that has been bizarre
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because I guess I had like somewhat of a relationship with you.
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And this is a show that I think has been right up your lane,
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So I wanted to sparingly ask you when to come on.
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And with what's been going on on Twitter lately
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it's pretty evident to some people what is about to happen,
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at least to me, like how things are being lined up.
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So I think that this is a perfect time to have you on
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And if it aggravates them, usually it's a truth.
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I'm kind of brown, especially in Florida with the sun.
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your daughters fuck your dogs, the family dogs,
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Then I started looking at the profile pictures,
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You guys are just fucking inbred incest monsters.
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obviously, Owen, you much earlier than most people
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in any sort of prominent position where eyes are on them
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This is something that you did really early on.
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And from my perspective, I've been a conspiracy theorist
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And I'll admit that I had a blind spot to that information.
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Look at the last names of the people that own the banks.
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but for some reason it just wouldn't interest me.
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Top has really shown me a lot of compelling things.
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And we've talked with a lot of guests on this show
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and we've delved into this sort of Jewish question.
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and the way that the community is coming for top.
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And I just, I think that that is an important foundation
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to lay here is like, Owen, you went through a lot
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to say the things that you said in the beginning
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and it's, the playing field has just changed up.
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by the very people that are calling me anti-Semitic.
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And I, cause I, the world works as a comedian almost.
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You know, they're always named these funny names.
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because I think that there's something to being
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a Down syndrome guy would literally be a better president.
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because people with Down syndrome are like angelic.
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I want to play in the field with my best friend.
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the climate would lend itself to you thinking this.
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Is there any validity to the idea that it's too late
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this sentiment here that I do think is true is like,
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I acknowledge that there is something going on.
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but that the best case scenario anyone has is doing what I'm saying for every
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So let's say first people say you're abandoning cities,
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every great American president is from a farm or lived on a farm.
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You have the most political effect in small populated counties.
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And in cities have always been for criminals and perverts.
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there was a brief time where like San Fran and these places look beautiful.
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it's Chinese people cooking dogs and there's dead.
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And I'm not saying everyone has to be a farmer.
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wouldn't you rather be positioned in a way of self-sufficiency where you've got a community around you?
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I've looked at how the Amish were never drafted,
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it's desperate people that are in debt to someone else are the ones that are most susceptible to a draft.
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So let's say you don't even have a lot of money.
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don't be in debt and have a lot of family members and friends around you that you have,
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because the system isn't going to drag a kid out of their house.
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that triggers the possibility of being overthrown completely because that's martyrs,
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they like isolated atomized people that are desperate or they are under the mind control of,
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and I'm not trying to say I'm some special dude.
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just try and like grow something in your window.
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I'm just saying that think in terms of if your dollar can't buy Chinese labor
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do I know someone growing shit within 30 miles?
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a lot of the best jobs in the future are going to be white collar.
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I was giving people goals like within 10 miles,
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So that like people know if you go missing people know,
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and there's so much economic benefit to community where it's like,
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And then they give me plowing on my driveway for no money.
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we watch each other's kids and one hunts an elk and we share it.
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and you start realizing that you can create a economic wealth just from
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I give them a coop because I have an extra one,
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The government's going to take your farm and the government's going to
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take your kids and the government's going to stick you with.
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And I kind of figured out the realm a little bit that the devil never
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And you're going to be enticed and you're going to be threatened and
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That's one of the reasons I think they're doing so much mass migrate
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immigration is I think they want desperate bodies to be,
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it just came back from New York and right by my old house is a Floyd
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Bennett field is just filled with a tents and migrants and in the city as
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And then I'm now that you say that it makes a lot of sense.
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there's a couple of super chats and rumble $2 tier.
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stack farm says we don't really get super chats,
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And I would like to extend an olive branch and welcome you to be on a
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I hope you accept so we can move forward in peace and stop lying about me.
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And if I ever say something or like recall something,
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190 hours of me unscripted talking and trying to recall stuff.
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I I'm part retardato or whatever it means to get close.
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especially during times of heightened emotion or whatever,
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but like someone's coming at my bank or something,
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and I'm trying to get a little more peaceful about that.
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And if I've come across like an asshole in the past,
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we were messaging back and forth about the idea of like,
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isn't it funny every time I kind of like do something,
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You have to genuinely be trying to help people.
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And I was talking to Quinn about that yesterday where it's like,
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cause he's starting to get more famous and like what the missteps are for
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Cause the plumber saves more lives than any comedian,
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just flushing poop is like so much more valuable.
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and we're talking about how like all these college athletes,
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high level performers know to always just shout out your creator.
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and then the burden is off you and you get to be a better athlete and life
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if I accept that I bring people all this joy and truth and everything,
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I'm also the guy that brings them like pain and depression.
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what's what went on there and the fall of the angels.
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if you subscribe to this mythology or any other mythology that kind of says
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he wanted to be God or be like God or usurp God.
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And it's really what it comes down to is as we're looking at is it,
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or whatever Kings that are underneath them throughout the Bible,
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you'll see them all throughout all these iniquities throughout history.
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I understand that there's an influence here and I'm glad that people are getting value
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And thank God the other good people are telling me like,
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things that we find interesting and compelling,
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because you keep following me and I'm going to trip real soon.
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where are we all going to go when I'm laying face down in the ground?
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And then all of a sudden I've got all these people behind me.
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Don't go to Detroit and we'll get our teeth punched out and everybody will watch us.
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cause like sometimes just the way I talk and how big I am,
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I used to do a bit about calls where it's like,
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Cause you don't have to think about what to wear.
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And there's so money to that with like sports team stuff.
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the good thing about my trolls and I shouldn't even call them trolls.
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They have a right to make fun of me is it makes it.
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Like no one can idolize me after they've looked at my Reddit.
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Alexander the great used to hire a guy just to constantly tell him he
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you have to keep coming back to tower gang because if you do this shit where you're tweeting,
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And you look back at your history and you're like,
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maybe listen to what he's got to say a little bit.
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but I want to say that tranny Owen is my favorite Owen.
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Just the idea that there's a six foot eight fucking trans Owen.
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They took my skull and they put like a female skull over mine.
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And you kind of have bitched it like bitch hips.
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Especially I was around a pregnant woman for eight straight years.
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there's something about the estrogen where I started having like my nipples
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for a while it was my banner on Twitter was me with a female skull because
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It's like the same with people making fun of my kids.
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I'm going to send caskets for his kids and all this.
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Like I'm from a small broken ass town where men show affection by like
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but it's kind of like how you survive the pain.
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It's like the Russians do the same shit where they're like,
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And then you go to LA where it's like 85 and avocados and threesomes every day.
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you raise your voice one decibel and it's hate,
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And that's like humor is like a coping mechanism,
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we would bond or like make friends by calling each other.
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especially with like famous people or wealthy people or people from like really temperate climates.
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super wealthy and you have tons of employees and some asshole like me is just talking shit.
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in this sort of like trying to be understanding vein.
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because I don't know if you guys went through this.
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Like you notice that the federal reserve is doing this and that,
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they're going to turn Walmarts into FEMA camps and they're going to implement martial law.
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And I was blessed to have all of my friends and family look at me like I was fucking retarded.
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it's not to say that I wasn't right about some things.
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And then I was able to kind of see things differently.
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And this is kind of a legitimate fear of mine is that,
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everybody is being inundated with this information on the Jews,
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and I have to ask myself if this is even an appropriate thing to do anymore.
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I'm subjecting my audience to a live viewing of Europa.
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And I think I can kind of see everybody's in the same water and the water is getting turned up.
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And people who weren't subjected to this kind of information before,
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They're all going through the same stages that I went through as a kid.
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I don't think it was unique to me that I was a kid.
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I think it was unique to being a conspiracy theorist.
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When you first get into it and the veil first gets pulled back and you see the world is different from the narrative that you're fed,
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officially you do feel like something needs to be done.
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And what I worry about is if a lot of people are going through this thing that I went through,
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when I looked around to see if anybody would mobilize with me and everybody said,
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But what happens when you have all these people around you affirming it?
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to the extent that it makes you wonder why is this?
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Maybe you have to let people go through their noticing phase.
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like I can see that sentiment and maybe there is some validity to that,
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Because there is a culture that you can turn to and say,
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And we're working through the emotions and all this stuff.
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you're going to get the most heat from black people,
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the most dependent that are in the most vicinity of Jewish power are going to be
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It's a way to break the spell when they're like,
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Like I used to be talking about my trigger stuff.
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You could get me emotional and angry and opioids because my,
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And I was like the only person banned during her big banning phase.
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Like I can't even do clips channels on YouTube.
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the Sackler family and they're poisoning us and the fentanyl and the Jews and all
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the CEO of YouTube son died tragically of a fentanyl overdose.
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whether or not you're the biggest Jew elite ever,
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there is a camaraderie with us in quote unquote,
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like with less than 1% of the population being farmers,
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you absolutely need industrial spraying because I,
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And there's not enough Mexicans in the world to do that without
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And I actually am rooting for them occasionally of honey potting,
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when I was younger and I was going through this,
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to mobilize with me and then hoping that somebody would have a fucking idea.
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I remember going to occupy wall street when I was a kid,
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just full of like this energy of wanting to do something.
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And we all like had this moment of mobilization at Zuccotti park.
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We're going to go and audit the federal reserve.
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We're going to march down to the federal reserve.
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We're going to demand to see the gold in the basement.
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We turned around and went right back to Zuccotti park.
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We gave her a pot of a plot of land so she can grow flowers and sell them
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and I was very surprised at first about how few people wanted me on their
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podcast to talk about Bertaria times where it's like,
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and I know it's hectic and I know that it was a wild ride and I get why
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But when we crowdfunded to get people to pool money together so that we
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could have our own festivals and get togethers on our own land,
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have our own magazines that highlighted family friendly homesteading,
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I think that identifying the threat is more animalistically.
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it's harder for me to listen to podcasts about music frequency for my
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Israel is our greatest ally with the dollar because Saudi Arabia wouldn't do
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So we fucking pay Israel to piss off everyone so that they sell oil and
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We break up OPEC and we circulate our world reserve currency.
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And that's why we get to buy Guatemalan coffee for a dollar and a
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cause people that know me will go online and be like,
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is that not the person to bury the hatchet with though?
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So the psychology is unless the messenger is insane,
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But you still haven't dealt with the fact that,
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like the kill the Jew in your inner heart is really the basis of this.
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And I think that that's not a door that you should open.
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I really do think that there's access from other entities or whatever you'd like to call it.
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I could actually type that in here and look at this stuff right now.
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it's a weird natural instinct that is being played on you.
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And that is something I see that's missing from the conversation here,
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I think that you don't let a good grassroots movement go unco-opted.
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this thing has become steered and artificially inflated and AstroTurf.
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And what I don't see as part of this conversation,
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what about the accountability of your own role in this whole thing?
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so all these parasites can do all this terrible things to me.
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Taking authority saying my bad is how you become the boss.
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Then now the woman is in charge and people do it with Jews.
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They say the Jews are why we're sad and broke and lonely and afraid.
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The one thing Jews hate more than being noticed is no one noticing them.
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that's when they spray swastikas on their synagogues and shit.
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the Jew question was organic and then the feds noticed and they co-opted the
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they filled it with a bunch of fake accounts and those fake accounts turn into white
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And now they're moving everybody towards an extreme event,
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like every fucking possible aspect that you can,
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Cause I've had some crazy ass unfair shit happen to me from mainstream comedy,
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I tried to raise $2 million for this big property.
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So I'm working through all this stuff and they're like,
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looking for the opportunity is always the move.
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so people that used to open for me are now making $20 million a year with
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I'm forced to have to do as good as I can every day.
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I had this conversation right before we started the show,
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this moment where I had to check in with myself.
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Cause once I started to feel like this was being,
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a little preface to this is I told Owen and you know,
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maybe close to 12,000 right back down to normal.
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I know that they're flooding and I know what they're doing.
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they're tanking my algorithm by doing this and go ahead and do it again.
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But who buys that and dedicates it to your account and to do what?
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skirmishing with these mutts or Nazis or whatever the fuck you want to call them.
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are you being paid or is it just one guy spending a couple hundred dollars?
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looking forward to losing a bunch of listeners and being called a Jew lover after today's episode.
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fan of the show said the downside of edgy humor is eventually some people will find out that you don't actually hate people based on group identity.
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So this guy who's also been a fan of the show for a long time said the downside of edgy humor is calling all your fans Nazis after you've cultivated them for a year.
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Maybe I got so wrapped up in naming the Jew that I didn't stop to think about where this leads and whether or not some fed looked at my account and said,
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and that was like what I had to admit to myself was,
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and I'm not saying that you shouldn't notice these machinations leveraged against us.
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And the fact that they look fucking identical to things that have happened a hundred years ago,
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I'm talking like when you're talking about race,
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I do think it is important to check in with yourself.
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why do people have such a hard time seeing that both of these things are true?
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And there's all these different things that they use to keep us down.
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that's the real thing that's been on my mind lately is like,
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And it starts to change what actually happens outside right now.
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but how long until people are talking about the Jews very loudly in public
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like I have a Jewish relatives whom I love dearly.
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isn't that nice to see like all this crazy shit that's happening with
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And you get this dystopian view that it's all only fans and crap.
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She's not going to spend her time doing a bunch of dumb shit and making a
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she's going to marry a man that she loves and she's going to start building a
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And if there comes a time when not only somebody decides to come for them,
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you want to get mad at us for pumping the brakes and saying,
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And there needs to be some nuance to this conversation because I'm afraid
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we're going to some really dark place a lot sooner than we might expect.
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I wouldn't worry about people coming for juice.
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I think the dark place is going to be about dependence and they're going to,
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It's comfort and mercy is like the whole thing.
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but it's going to be pleasure based comfort eugenics death.
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And I don't even think they ever even came for the Jews.
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they're the only ones to ever arrest a Rothschild.
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they took them and they got like 10 million in ransom.
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when the economy is shrinking and you're losing world reserve currency,
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I think a lot of the COVID vaccine thing was to kill baby boomers so that they didn't have to pay out their retirement.
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And I think they're trying to get people to chop their own dicks off.
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the quote unquote Nazi JQ movement has no order at all.
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that's why they're terrified of a lot of Muslims.
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That's why I call these motherfuckers months because it's exactly to that exact point.
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And you're going to tell me that you built the nation that I live.
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They won't have any mountain dew and fucking pornos.
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did you know that six guerrillion people died yesterday because they did it?
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He made a shadow puppet and it looked just like a Jew.
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When I was threatened to get kicked off YouTube with a hundred million views in a very short amount of time about the Holocaust thing.
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I'm really sorry about questioning the Holocaust number.
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there's people being burned in ovens every single day.
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The thing about hate groups is they can't do anything.
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every Indian reservation is full of these people.
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They're on a reservation because they're blaming white people for their alcoholism.
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there's going to be ghettos of boot boys where they're all,
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sig howling their fucking teddy bears talking about the Jews as they're eating food from the Jews,
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like literally running monologue where it's like,
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the only thing that stands in the way of total world domination by the Jew is the white man.
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And it is our exclusive goal to eliminate him by any means necessary,
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no matter how violent or grotesque or obtuse those means may be.
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Like people used to actually monologue like Jewish evil dudes would actually like,
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So they got a $10 million ransom firm or whatever.
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Hitler was one of the only people to ever deal with one of the Rothschilds.
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This homosexual is actually promoting our telegram.
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I think a lot of the allies did more war crimes than the Germans.
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Like people right now think I'm like Rabbi Shmuley.
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they don't even know who the hell they're talking to.
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And then you come out of nowhere yesterday with your account made yesterday,
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watching dumb people that followed me say like,
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that's the best thing that ever happens to you,
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Like you don't want shit people supporting you.
01:10:01.320
Cause then they always feel like you owe them something for years.
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remember that time you were mean to me in the chat.
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I don't remember some of the worst things that happened to me.
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maybe you don't want them to fucking stick around.
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Cause there's never been more opportunities right now.
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And that's one reason why I don't take this Nazi stuff too seriously,
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because I know some hardcore dudes and they're not acting like this.
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they'll get pissed if they see like migrants coming,
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they don't sit around talking about Jews all day.
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They're like working and fucking growing stuff.
01:11:19.420
they care about like trying to get out of property tax or something like that.
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Or like how much is the government taking of their water?
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I want to ask you for your opinion on something.
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It's a Stu Peters extreme accountability event.
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And I think it's an opportunity to like get on that stage and go in and say,
01:11:57.820
I know a lot of people are mad about a lot of things,
01:11:59.360
but one of the things that should be focused on maybe more so than the other
01:12:02.960
things is like taking accountability for whatever you played in this.
01:12:09.900
I like Stu Peters and I like all the people that are,
01:12:14.140
I kind of had a little bit of a wake up moment from,
01:12:17.240
the fans or possibly the people that are following this.
01:12:30.940
And then there's a million people marching and there's like,
01:12:46.420
And whatever I'm going to say is going to get swept up.
01:12:56.340
We even get some meaningful amount of stage time to spread any sort of message.
01:12:59.740
We might just go there and fucking sit on stage with Stu Peters and Jake Shields and say,
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Like you have no idea what's actually going to happen.
01:13:07.220
The thing about those type of audiences is there's probably some of the greatest people there and some real weirdos.
01:13:13.480
it's like the people that are willing to acknowledge some of these uncomfortable things and go against the grain and,
01:13:46.740
Yay asked me to go to LA and shoot comedy sketches.
01:14:02.120
Cause you know what you said earlier about cultivating an audience.
01:14:21.720
not feeding them what you think they want versus what is true.
01:14:39.180
you gotta be yourself or else you're just gonna,
01:14:49.260
I used to tour with David tell and he's trying to not drink.
01:15:00.140
And he can't get away from people like trying to pour booze down his,
01:15:06.140
imagine being the Jew guy where everywhere you go,
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I bet right now they like hate our blonde hair.
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I think there is something to that and I want to say top that you and I are trying to do a good job of that where it's like,
01:16:49.920
I am guilty of in the last time you were on Tower Gang or maybe the time before that,
01:17:11.700
but it's something that obviously needs to be added in because the last revelation to the people of like that when they see me,
01:17:21.380
so you mean you're just a Puerto Rican guy sitting on a farm that really doesn't want to kill the Jews?
01:17:28.520
that's one of the things I like about you is that the conversation,
01:17:31.960
like you'll hit me up in DMs or we'll have a conversation on the phone and you'll express like actual,
01:17:39.280
concern for these ideas and you're exploring these things.
01:17:42.620
And then that very same dude makes it onto the show.
01:17:45.720
You don't just put that in the back seat and then get on the show and say,
01:17:52.700
and I think that that is one of the things hopefully that saves the show from,
01:17:58.500
I can act a certain way or say a certain thing and it's going to get a bunch of people to hop on.
01:18:04.120
you've got all these people hanging off your back and they're actually like fucking barnacles.
01:18:09.460
like Q is it's all like everyone's doing the Q thing.
01:18:22.280
There was a while where I was looking at Q and I was like,
01:18:25.120
this is fascinating because there is something there.
01:18:31.240
And I know built into the Q narrative is the idea of like,
01:18:43.360
And they just had this really clever thing of embedding that it is a psyop into the narrative.
01:18:54.820
And there is a lot of really fun and compelling shit here,
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this big portion of the conspiracy theory community.
01:19:17.360
They trust you because you told them a bunch of truth about some things.
01:19:20.000
And then you can kind of lead them wherever you want.
01:19:35.200
on timeline cleanse because my favorite thing to watch is black people fight.
01:19:44.520
for a while that was like who I was on Twitter and you get a bunch of people from that.
01:19:57.720
you're sifting for gold because it's like people that like making fun of blacks.
01:20:20.320
I'm trying to work on a bit about this where I always hated cats until I saw them in their
01:20:44.560
Like when you see blacks in like a Northern city,
01:20:53.140
but you get some tribal rural plantation blacks.
01:21:04.040
And I think I'm friends with like half of them because conspiratorial,
01:21:14.000
They're like all about chess and fucking like the funniest thing is the
01:21:17.820
biggest quote unquote Nazi guy I know is black.
01:21:37.220
they're like Hitler treated us better than FDR.
01:21:40.220
And then you look at the boot boys and they're like,
01:21:52.400
you could tell he's like distressed and he's talking about the mangoes.
01:22:08.840
They don't operate well in the North or in cities,
01:22:26.180
I want to swing it wildly and talk about the Nazis again on a,
01:22:31.700
I don't know if you really even know about this kind of stuff,
01:22:34.760
everyone talks about the early stages of the Nazis,
01:22:38.160
But I feel like we should have a conversation about the end stage of the
01:22:49.060
but definitely into like this occult alien kind of shit.
01:22:52.640
There's rumors of them having craft and summoning entities and talking with
01:23:07.600
throne of Satan that they painstakingly moved to Berlin so that he can do
01:23:22.080
Like the beginning of whatever they were trying to do and how it ended.
01:23:53.800
But they're not trying to like ruffle any feathers.
01:24:08.300
they're still writing checks to the Jews 80 years later.
01:24:10.580
So I think the most fascinating thing about them with their occult shit is
01:24:18.340
white nationalist guys do not appreciate my views on the earth,
01:24:29.900
the first thing I think of is it's right next to Antarctica.
01:24:42.980
Like they absolutely had like the red mercury type tech where they were
01:24:50.540
and I'm not stating this as fact is that whoever controls Antarctica
01:24:56.040
And that's why there's an Antarctic treaty for the last 75 years that
01:25:08.020
It's just telling you this is that comedic element where it's like
01:25:16.800
you know what Antarctica literally translates to is no bears.
01:25:22.820
artos is bear and like no bears and the emperor penguin,
01:25:33.320
but it's historical fact that a major presence for the Nazis,
01:25:51.840
Why are they going there to this barren inhospitable,
01:25:56.960
when people say they communicate with entities,
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despite what the boot boys are saying that I'm a Jew,
01:26:11.680
I have like some Scandinavian lineage and I've looked into that shit.
01:26:21.240
they're on ships and they would just change the map,
01:26:28.820
And one of the fundamental ways to control movement of man,
01:26:42.060
the airships were so effective at going far distances for very inexpensive.
01:26:47.780
There was never a single explosion until the Hindenburg.
01:26:51.380
And it happened to be caught on film with a guy going the humanity.
01:27:04.560
And I think that they were getting to a point where they were going,
01:27:07.820
they were going to places where I think it was freaking people out.
01:27:17.220
I think that whole fucking war was about who controls the world,
01:27:20.600
And I don't know if you said it when I was stepping out for a second there,
01:27:25.740
I believe we have you Owen to thank for making us aware of Dr.
01:28:00.040
I think the story of the quote unquote concentration camps are way more
01:28:08.340
I don't think that they carted people in and killed them and burn them.
01:28:12.180
I think that they were doing super intense tests with like pharmaceuticals,
01:28:25.820
we can make a grown man cry with drawings of deer flashing really fast with
01:28:38.120
Like men are crying because of a drawing of a fucking deer losing the mom
01:29:05.260
this gleaming glowing man on the horizon in the form of fucking Adolf Hitler.
01:29:10.340
And you think that you're not going to slide into that dude's pussy.
01:29:12.540
Like Hitler is the number one guy that you want to fucking co-opt.
01:29:37.720
They just give you tech and they'd give them shitty tech,
01:29:48.040
And now you go fast forward to 2024 and you have all these world leaders.
01:29:57.960
And it gets real crazy into the alien question and what that actually is.
01:30:55.400
like people want to be the most evil man in the world.
01:31:10.600
So it's probably like evokes the same kind of whatever alchemical,
01:31:15.280
property that's being pulled from your soul with worship or fear.
01:31:40.520
Don't be afraid because that fear is like a little portal.
01:31:52.640
they literally think people are going to make them into soap.
01:31:58.960
no one's more tormented by the Holocaust narrative than Jewish people.
01:32:06.740
Jews literally have nightmares their whole life that anytime people are like ordered and
01:32:13.020
that they're going to be fucking turned into a lampshade.
01:32:23.780
me breaking the Holocaust spell for a bunch of Jews,
01:32:32.860
I've talked about on this show plenty of times I've had run-ins with things that I
01:32:42.400
And I know that the way that I got there is because I was trapped in this loop of
01:32:56.300
like just really the worst base human emotions that you could possibly,
01:33:03.760
what would be the word like vibrating on that level?
01:33:13.500
I've been talking about that since before I even had a Twitter account,
01:33:17.960
so like a lot of that stuff is definitely real.
01:33:26.660
Of keeping an entire people vibrating in this constant state of fear.
01:33:34.840
almost like frail that just the idea that you get,
01:33:40.140
Like these are people that are afraid of everything that are around them.
01:33:56.000
So if you have people that are in a state of fear all the time,
01:33:58.720
any perceived authority in a white lab code or a fucking whatever,
01:34:20.060
Like you're stewing and envy and depression and resentment.
01:34:29.720
Think about how much of a mind shift it is to be like,
01:34:38.740
Like I'm always looking at other things and not myself.
01:35:06.080
And then you just sit around and overthink everything.
01:35:24.500
Bombs are raining down and they're fucked for life.
01:35:27.820
at any time someone can do something to me versus a seal is like,
01:35:58.360
I'm raising a guard and I'll got eaten by deer.
01:36:18.480
and Benjamin will leave you from God and kill you.
01:36:31.160
what about that bit they did about how much they love abortion?
01:36:45.080
it's demonic because if you influence people to raise their vibration,
01:36:52.760
And the thing is the demon has a right to do it.
01:37:07.100
when you're afraid and somebody bursts in and you're like,
01:37:09.900
Like that's the whole mindset of when you're constantly in this state of
01:37:22.520
You've never killed a man with your bare hands.
01:37:25.640
You're not beating the Ashkenazi schizophrenia type,
01:37:28.160
but they're calling you a Jew again because you're,
01:37:33.660
But what I just said is completely biblical and obvious.
01:37:39.380
you said that when you have control over the things that are going on in
01:37:46.260
that fear that people who are just sitting and waiting for things.
01:37:53.480
Like a big change in my life was when Trump would not build the fucking
01:38:02.180
I shared it with thousands of people and everyone was like rooting for me.
01:38:12.560
but the Mexicans are calm and steal you and fuck you.
01:38:45.580
and we're going to cut you loose here because we're running out of time.
01:39:39.200
it's funny to sit here and have this conversation with you.
01:39:43.060
I don't have any issues with what you're saying.
01:39:50.860
I think I'm starting to understand a little bit,
01:39:59.200
the snakes and the lizards under stones just start hissing.
01:40:05.580
like the dude that's stealing from his boss is like,
01:40:21.660
You didn't say anything obtuse during this entire podcast.
01:40:34.540
So you have a consonants and dissonance consonants.
01:41:02.200
It's just ones and ones and zeros when you mix it.
01:41:14.940
Cause that's the thing that I think tricks the most amount of people.
01:41:26.000
He's initiated into one of the many schools of magic,
01:41:36.480
the ODO or the OTO or all these different things.
01:42:45.080
a bit onward to bear Terria and a $2 for the piano tuner fund.
01:43:06.180
If you don't like the mustache that those are too worried about it because
01:43:20.860
So I'm just going to keep doing what we've been doing.
01:43:22.600
All these funds are going to Raven's roadcaster.
01:43:36.580
We had our payment processor was down for three months,
01:43:42.500
you get my whole library unauthorized.tv or censored.tv promo code Shapiro.
01:43:58.300
If you want to send me letters or anything you want.
01:44:03.220
in the description so they can just find your shit again,
01:44:32.100
I'm still funny with the mutts is just flip it on.
01:44:36.620
this is why you've been kicked out of 109 countries.
01:45:35.000
they're virtually everybody that we see in the chat all the time.
01:45:54.860
especially like the NDS people that are here all the time.
01:46:00.420
with a ufologist and we're actually delaying that another week.
01:46:11.000
Dustin Nemos would say there's no redemption for you,
01:46:34.980
I don't know if this person's been here the whole time and I don't know if they liked it or hate it,
01:46:41.180
I don't like women like really talk to me like that.
01:46:46.020
I did want to say one of the things that's really funny.
01:46:48.680
like the misconception of my wife being an actual Jew,
01:46:57.920
I will stand by all day long that when people say I hate the Jews,
01:47:14.680
When you decide to grow up and a quarter woman and eventually get some pussy on your wedding day,
01:47:24.960
And we can get into all the race mixing shit like that.
01:47:32.680
if she's a Jew and she's subversive and you let her subvert your family,
01:48:03.800
What if you let her think that she's getting like away with some things,
01:48:19.420
because I think it's kind of an outlet for Jews.
01:48:21.440
Like they have to have a little bit of subversive fun.
01:48:33.420
but you are looking and maybe she even knows you're looking and you still have a little fun.
01:48:39.540
You got to have your lines with your kids and with your wife and you got to keep them in check.
01:48:47.000
we're working on a woman who talks about feminism that she might be on the show.
01:48:51.960
And she was talking about Lilith and basically keeping the,
01:48:58.340
when they were kicked out of Eden is that they'd have painful birth and they'd always,
01:49:03.420
have this underlying idea of usurping the male.
01:49:20.460
Can we use this last minute or so to just update everybody as far as NDS Chronicles?
01:49:27.700
We are guys working on a testimonial based show for Nephilim.
01:49:32.980
People like this with clear demons are welcome.
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because I don't really value what anybody else has to say,
01:50:15.020
a three hour plus episode of people's supernatural testimonies.
01:50:28.600
Too many good people that we got to pay attention to.
01:50:36.160
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he saw this writing on the wall for a while and it's kind of like this weird
01:53:35.300
We should explain that right where we sit right now.
01:53:37.520
It seems there's been a blanket ban on Nick Fuentes and the Groypers,
01:53:52.780
There's been a big turn of events where all of a sudden Elon has gone from
01:53:55.660
this free speech supremacist to slamming the band hammer on various accounts
01:54:02.100
And I would say that the climate now more so than when we shot this episode
01:54:07.380
is reaching like a rolling boil when it comes to the JQ sentiment and things
01:54:16.380
It's almost boiled over to the point of ineffectiveness.
01:54:23.200
So Elon has banned these accounts and he's banned them over sort of like an
01:54:38.420
like a lot of these other guys are just kind of annoying with it.
01:54:42.200
And it's why I stopped talking about it because I'm like,
01:54:53.480
like I'm being confused with a lot of other people that are doing weird,
01:55:18.120
So that's something that I've been thinking about lately during all of this,
01:55:22.180
I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to talk about,
01:55:28.180
Everything should be on the table for the conversation,
01:55:32.200
it's not lost on me that everybody's spiraling.
01:55:36.420
what did you think was going to happen when all of your content was about the
01:55:39.860
Jews and it was all the most abrasive and aggressive shit.
01:55:45.880
but did you think you were going to be able to scream?
01:55:51.440
I don't know the tune of hundreds of millions of likes or hundreds of
01:55:57.020
hundreds of thousands of followers and subscribers on Twitter.
01:55:59.800
Did you think that you were going to keep that up forever and that there
01:56:08.860
so I'm supposed to be on the side of it where it's like free speech,
01:56:13.880
I don't really want these guys to lose their account,
01:56:18.480
implicated in personally torturing me or trying to at least.
01:56:30.980
you've made yourself into this caricature that can be dismissed and
01:56:39.320
there won't be articles written on your behalf because you've been this
01:57:15.920
Top Lops has had his ex account terminated in the past due to a tweet
01:57:23.280
He claims to be in Florida mentions being happily married.
01:57:26.520
Although his online presence often includes provocative or offensive
01:57:31.900
I don't even believe you because it knows it's like known liar,
01:57:48.880
he talks about his disastrous vacation in Jamaica.
01:58:00.020
there's articles written about me in order to get my thing back.
01:58:30.620
And you guys are even more annoying to the point where like now no one's going to come in like,
01:58:55.780
but Owen posted something recently that I thought was the epitome of his argument.
01:59:02.620
It's so amazing how memes have a way of distilling something into its most potent form.
01:59:07.900
And the meme that Owen Benjamin posted was him as Morpheus.
01:59:24.080
Because I know a lot of this episode we just talked about.
01:59:27.920
Obviously this is like a sort of a flowery language to describe something.
01:59:34.600
it's almost a philosophy is a better way of looking at that sentence.
01:59:46.940
and I think that's important because if you are outsourcing,
01:59:55.640
And therefore you are powerless to do anything to help your own life.
02:00:00.420
And I agree with this sentiment of taking responsibility for as much as humanly possible.
02:00:11.220
the more you are saying I have the power to change X,
02:00:16.100
So if I'm responsible for all the shortcomings in my life,
02:00:18.460
then I am powerful enough to change the shortcomings in my life.
02:00:26.920
That's kind of why Owen came on to talk about the sort of this,
02:00:29.580
but then he's also a homie who came on to just chat a little bit,
02:00:32.560
I had gotten attacked by these same people now.
02:01:12.340
You're talking about something that's completely poison and you're right.
02:01:21.720
whatever decades of various minorities in the United States saying that the white man is responsible for everything that ails us.
02:01:30.220
And there's a point where you might be able to look at like historical moments or,
02:01:34.840
or even conspiracy theories and see like there are mechanisms that are aimed at keeping people where they are.
02:01:40.720
But we've all pretty much agreed for the last decade that you simply cannot blame somebody else for all your shortcomings.
02:01:51.200
This is where it comes like pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
02:01:54.860
There's a lot of different mechanisms that keep people in place,
02:01:59.240
Bruteless casting blame on a system for where you find yourself.
02:02:04.040
There are other people who do lift themselves out of that scenario by their own strength,
02:02:09.500
and by the community that they build around them and they come out of it and they don't even look back.
02:02:14.100
and now all of a sudden we've gotten to this place where like white people in particular are doing the exact same thing.
02:02:43.000
Here's some quotes from Owen Benjamin during the episode.
02:02:45.140
If you guys go ahead and take a walk down memory lane to about 30 minutes ago,
02:02:49.460
taking authority saying my bad is how you become the boss.
02:02:58.640
He also said the devil never makes you do it or the devil loses.
02:03:05.760
It's what we talk about on the show all the time.
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but right after we finished yelling at black people for doing it for all this time,
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It's like the white man is to the black community,
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a cool thing that we're reairing it just because maybe what we're experiencing is,
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but I do think that the conversation on Twitter ends up bleeding into the general public's
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And right now it just so happens to be what the biggest story is that Elon,
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Elon Musk kind of spurged out and he banned all of these accounts that are pretty much
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they're going to look at this and they'll go with the same advice that was given to them
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I feel like a lot of these guys are super smart and you have more to offer than just
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What does the question is what does Israel get next time?
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why more conditions require why more solutions?
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Why more conditions require why more solutions?
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And I would argue it's exactly what somebody wants.
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Like Elon Musk couldn't really do this to other people.
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I've been doing this since before you faggots have been around.
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one person had to be brought back because you couldn't do that.
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You guys have been such an ire on the asshole of everybody that it's just like,
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And the crazy thing is like so many other people in this hole with you guys,
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I don't think that there is like annoying and bad as some of these people,
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we're talking about there's validity in asking the question.
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There's validity in bringing these things to the public awareness.
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And then what happens is when you go well beyond that and you're just obtuse and to the extent
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all the people who were fairly asking questions and also bringing compelling evidence to people,
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and I guess the question is how much of it is like controlled opposition.
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that has nothing to do with like the actual important part or the interesting part of that story.
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a clear botnet that was created to go after Eliza blue online.
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real people got wrapped up in it and it was easy to feed them with just dopamine at the time.
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So it was just dopamine and likes that they were getting.
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the center of it's gone and they just fall to the ground.
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there is some aspect of it that is inorganic at the heart of it is,
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But the whole thing around it was formulated by something to what degree?
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And then it changes the whole social narrative.
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or let's enjoy and entertain the hypothetical that all the gripers were just
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regular organic dudes who were fed up and started screaming at the hilltops about
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is it lost on you guys that you got to the point where you were behaving like unfunded
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the intelligence agencies will pay people to go in and escalate the overall energy of
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a movement to the point where it becomes reasonable for those looking from the outside
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you basically just became a bunch of unpaid agent provocateurs.
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You got that to the point where the general public is now looking at you like,
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you guys were kind of annoying and getting to the point where things kind of seemed like
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play it agent provocateurs wouldn't be a thing.
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There would be no reason for you to infiltrate a group with people who seem genuine,
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literally there's feds getting paid to be doing what you did.
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They're given a military issued boots and all these different things.
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but you did do the job that they needed somebody to do.
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That's kind of what Owen Benjamin got away from.
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They have an overwhelming amount of influence in so many things.
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But the one thing you have is like personal sovereignty.
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They already have this disproportionate influence over everything that you do.
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Might as well just give them your personal free will.
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Or you can recognize that you have personal sovereignty.
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And you can make a set of decisions like Owen Benjamin that makes it to the
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point where it's almost inconsequential that the Jews run the world.
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And here's a quote from him from the episode about probably 40 minutes ago.
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you've also explicitly said that the Jews are the only ones capable of making
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people don't like that message of personal responsibility,
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I guess the people were preaching to the choir here.
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I've been a conspiracy theorist for a really long time.
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I was screaming everything from the mountaintops.
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They're going to turn Walmarts into FEMA camps.
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but like we're living in such a way you're living in such a way that there
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what you need to be doing is stop being an alarmist.
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Stop screaming into the air because guess what?
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what have I shifted since I was a kid screaming at the rooftops?
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I'm sitting in a chair calmly and having thoughtful discussions with people
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who have compelling ideas that they want to present to our,
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and Benjamin on self-sufficient self-sufficiency.
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If you think you're being demographically replaced,
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But if you don't want to participate in these things,
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You can keep eating the goyslop and screaming about the goyslop.
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I don't think we're put here to do easy things.
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there are much more constructive things than it's okay to every once in a
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more thoughtful conversation or do you not have anything to contribute beyond
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I think that's a question that a lot of these gripers need to be asking
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do I have anything to contribute besides this thing that I've been screaming
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I don't think I'm not one of those people that's like,
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But I think if you really are one of these people who's fed up,
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and it's clear that you do want to be part of this public dialogue to some
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get a camera and start unpacking some of these ideas and start unpacking
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what I will say to both of those guys is they are not guilty of just
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It's not a toy with a button that when you press the button,
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If you really do feel that passionate about it,
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get out and start having conversations because who can be surprised that
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and then they criticize us because they're like,
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you guys do podcasts and try to get people to listen.
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Like the point is to reach as many people as possible.
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I've got 50,000 followers and other people have 200 from saying the same
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I think Owen Benjamin has a much more compelling method of,
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And the only thing that you could say against Owen is that one day the
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then we all have a much larger problem than what we originally thought.
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every single thing he's doing is increasing the positive aspect of like
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maybe there will be need for a bigger solution if it really does end up on
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but in the time between now and then every metric of your life will be,
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And you'll have left here doing things your own way instead of,
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bending the knee to a system that you're so disgusted with.
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you're building up treasures in heaven by things that you do here,
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we don't have to kind of like live minute to minute thinking about the same
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