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00:03:25.140 I am David Lee Corbo, a.k.a. The Raven.

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00:04:27.940 This show just feels like an ad sometimes.

00:04:31.180 It's supposed to be the main show we do, and I'm just like, this shit is a fucking...

00:04:36.340 The whole thing was an ad.

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00:04:40.520 I don't...

00:04:41.080 God damn it, I hate it.

00:04:42.560 Listen, we have a great guest with us.

00:04:44.400 Izzy, what's going on, man?

00:04:46.240 Tell us about yourself.

00:04:47.940 Well, first of all, this video is brought to you by Ghost Energy.

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00:04:54.660 No, I'm kidding.

00:04:55.120 I'm kidding, obviously.

00:04:55.900 No, so, you know, I just...

00:05:01.080 I was supposed to have an interview with Bob Larson last week, and then that went complete sideways.

00:05:07.400 Did you guys get to watch that, by the way?

00:05:09.020 Because it was nuts.

00:05:10.960 No.

00:05:11.380 What happened there?

00:05:13.040 Oh, he wanted to ambush me live.

00:05:17.600 How so?

00:05:18.260 He got mad at me because...

00:05:19.900 So, here's what happened.

00:05:22.320 It was supposed to be a discussion, and then the emails, because I was talking with his assistant, and then it eventually boiled down to this.

00:05:30.840 Four hours away from doing the debate, well, debate, right?

00:05:36.180 Because it wasn't called a debate until I happened to look at his thumbnail in big, bold letters.

00:05:40.100 It said, debate with Izzy Centric, and I was like, what the hell?

00:05:44.180 And so, I went...

00:05:45.280 Dude, we almost got suckered into a debate with fucking Jay Dyer, and it was supposed to be an...

00:05:49.920 It was the strangest thing.

00:05:51.380 Like, it was an interview, same thing, and then all of a sudden, we got into a fight, and he was like, well, now it's a debate.

00:05:56.620 And I was like, wait a second, wait a second.

00:05:57.840 I run ads.

00:05:59.620 I don't fucking do debates, bro.

00:06:02.240 Well, that's what...

00:06:03.120 So, that's what I told the guy who was...

00:06:05.920 Who had apparently picked me.

00:06:07.300 He was just looking for someone controversial.

00:06:09.120 And it was really weird because, I mean, Bob Larson is the kind of guy...

00:06:13.820 He's been around for a long time, and I actually gave Larson my phone number.

00:06:18.580 We talked for, like...

00:06:19.780 It was almost 15 minutes.

00:06:21.500 And Larson, one of the first things he said was, well, what's your deal?

00:06:24.980 What's going on?

00:06:25.760 Why are you not joining me?

00:06:26.860 And it was just...

00:06:27.740 It was so weird.

00:06:29.220 It was so surreal.

00:06:29.660 Joining him in what?

00:06:30.760 What is the debate?

00:06:31.720 I don't understand.

00:06:32.560 The debate was, I believe in reading the Book of Enoch, and he got pissed off about that, apparently.

00:06:39.180 And then I called him out in the phone call saying, well, you've got Alexander...

00:06:43.520 Well, I didn't say Alexander Pagani, but that's another one.

00:06:46.560 And Isaiah Saldivar.

00:06:48.640 The guy's in the deliverance ministry space.

00:06:50.480 I don't know if you guys are familiar with him, but me and Isaiah are actually the same age.

00:06:55.700 And I'm not part of the deliverance ministry space.

00:06:58.500 I study demonology well on the other side and another corner.

00:07:01.900 I don't believe in associating myself with a specific corner.

00:07:04.520 I'm just among the body of Christ.

00:07:06.000 I don't like getting into the nitty gritty with, you know, I'm with this sect or that sect or whatever.

00:07:11.160 Well, that sect, it seems, we talk about it on the show, that sect seems like people that kind of don't want to explore what's actually going on.

00:07:21.860 They're very happy in their box.

00:07:23.460 And as a, you know, as a Christian, before I kind of started learning about this stuff, you do feel a little bit disenfranchised.

00:07:30.620 Because it's kind of like, you guys have this book here and these extra biblical books, and you kind of just don't want to look at any of this stuff.

00:07:38.520 Just, I don't know.

00:07:41.040 Well, yeah.

00:07:41.880 I mean, I even told, I was telling Larson, I was like, you know, the book of Jude quotes Enoch directly, right?

00:07:47.760 And he was like, well, we could talk about that on my show if you want.

00:07:51.240 And I was like, okay, but you want to debate me and I don't want to debate you.

00:07:54.940 Oh, you're going to have a really hard time fighting me because I'm not going to fight you.

00:07:59.200 See, if to debate insinuates that you're both coming from like opposite ends of the spectrum and this is all brought together by an argument.

00:08:08.060 And it's like, well, honestly, you probably agree.

00:08:10.540 This is how I felt with Jay Dyer.

00:08:11.800 It's like he said that he wanted to debate me.

00:08:13.760 And I go, I struggle to see where we even disagree.

00:08:17.800 And maybe you'd say something to me that I don't agree with.

00:08:21.040 And I'd go, huh, that's interesting, such a, you know, interesting thing to consider.

00:08:25.240 But that's about all you're getting out of me.

00:08:27.200 The idea that I would like bury my heels in and go, no, you're definitively wrong.

00:08:31.580 And here's why.

00:08:32.920 Just in a realm where we're all kind of trying to interpret this reality that we inhabit.

00:08:37.900 It seems wild, such a wild thing to engage in.

00:08:40.760 Yeah, it's strange, man.

00:08:42.620 I don't understand because, you know, Jesus asks the disciples, is Christ divided?

00:08:47.880 You know, no, no, excuse me.

00:08:48.840 Paul said that, but Jesus said the kingdom of Satan is not divided against itself.

00:08:54.220 So, like, if we're sitting here getting defeated, hopefully not defeated, but attacked by the demonic, and then Christians can't even get along with each other.

00:09:02.340 No wonder why there's over, what, 45,000 denominations now in the world?

00:09:07.500 Yeah.

00:09:08.740 Do you know what's really interesting about that?

00:09:10.440 You can draw a, and this is probably as far as the correlation could be drawn, but I do recognize there's an interesting parallel between what people identify as the left versus what people identify as the right.

00:09:25.120 And the reason I say that is because, obviously, there's a lot of nuances within these things.

00:09:30.260 A lot of people on the left would say, we don't claim people who want to do Drag Queen Story Hour, right?

00:09:35.920 Those are our people.

00:09:37.180 But if you look at it, it's like they are a united front.

00:09:40.440 And then the right is very busy nitpicking over, you know, various different things having to do with the Republican Party.

00:09:48.620 So, it just seems like the left may have a bunch of different views.

00:09:52.140 Are you comparing the left to literal demons and the right to the Christian body?

00:09:56.180 I mean, it's sort of close.

00:09:57.440 In this particular case, it does draw an interesting parallel.

00:10:00.320 So, well, that's actually – it does draw an interesting parallel because, you know, and I see – you see where Ben Shapiro – yeah, I'm bringing him in.

00:10:09.660 Sorry, guys.

00:10:10.800 The literal devil.

00:10:12.160 Here we go.

00:10:12.920 He's brought in.

00:10:13.840 He's trying to become like the face of the right with the Daily Wire.

00:10:18.460 And then when he made that joke about Jesus Christ and then he added to it by saying, don't nail me with the picture with Jesus' hands up, I was like, well, he just lost a lot of followers because a lot of people.

00:10:29.520 You don't even have to be Christian nationalists to appreciate some of the Daily Wire stuff, hence why even Candace Owens was a part of them at one point.

00:10:36.680 But then when it just started going off the hinges and it's just – I think people were forgetting over time that Ben is not a Christian.

00:10:47.100 So –

00:10:47.860 It seems worse than that though.

00:10:50.280 Like, I mean, over the past year, it went from like, well, they're not Christians and they don't agree with us to like, I feel like you openly hate us.

00:10:59.740 Like, you openly mock us and literally do hate Christians specifically.

00:11:05.900 But like, I don't know, white people?

00:11:08.500 It's – for me, for somebody who is an online racist, they're – my perceived racism that's coming off of them makes me uncomfortable.

00:11:16.920 I don't know if it makes you guys – because it's like, damn, like, that's really how you feel?

00:11:21.780 Like, that's awful, man.

00:11:23.880 Like, what did I do to you?

00:11:25.920 There definitely seems to be something.

00:11:27.580 And I can't help but wonder – we talked about it on the last episode.

00:11:32.340 No matter how much Candace Owens, who I tend to agree with, I enjoy her.

00:11:36.660 I enjoy her character too.

00:11:39.800 But it does feel like a character.

00:11:42.260 And then recently she slipped in this whole, like, Christ consciousness thing where I'm like, all right, I don't know where we're going.

00:11:47.320 But this whole thing feels like an orchestrated – and I want to get into the demonology because we did have an interesting episode with –

00:11:55.020 Tim Albarino, who we actually did kind of get in the weeds a little bit about the nature of – he's saying not everything is demons, not everything is the fallen.

00:12:05.400 And I'm saying, yeah, there probably is a lot more nuance.

00:12:08.700 We just don't have the book on it.

00:12:10.260 But before we get there, I do want to mention – go ahead.

00:12:13.920 Sorry, Izzy.

00:12:14.500 You're actually the perfect follow-up guest to Timothy because we – it was a struggle session almost for, like, two hours where we're kind of, like –

00:12:22.420 we're kind of making jokes about the Nephilim.

00:12:25.080 We're saying, well, the aliens might be, you know, the Nephilim.

00:12:29.680 And he's kind of, like, going back and forth.

00:12:31.440 He's like, no, no, no.

00:12:32.780 Then we ended up in a weird place, like, well, there are so many classifications of these things.

00:12:38.240 Where do we begin?

00:12:39.800 And he kind of said, they possibly are Nephilim.

00:12:42.160 So Nephilim – I know that you're big on, like, fallen angels are not Nephilim.

00:12:45.240 Correct.

00:12:46.120 They're the fathers.

00:12:47.960 The Nephilim are the children.

00:12:48.960 And then in that category of Nephilim, there's so many subcategories that you can peek down.

00:12:54.580 Like, Tony Merkel likes to go down the rabbit hole of cryptids being Nephilim, like Bigfoot, stuff like that.

00:13:02.040 And I'm like, hey, I'm not sure.

00:13:03.620 Maybe.

00:13:04.460 So you're the perfect guy to come on after, Tim.

00:13:08.160 Tell us about this stuff.

00:13:09.500 What have you learned in your travels?

00:13:11.180 Okay, well, first of all, I have yet to bump into an angel slash alien, which I believe that – so – and I mix this up sometimes, angel and alien.

00:13:22.700 And the reason I do that – well, they both start with A for – I don't know.

00:13:25.280 I watched – I did one video on this topic, and I've mixed them up ever since.

00:13:29.100 But here's where it gets really nuanced, is that just like there's a difference between fallen angels and demons, there's a difference between different types of aliens.

00:13:40.280 And so you have the greys, which I put in their own category, and then the human-looking ones that they call the Nordic aliens that I put in a separate category.

00:13:48.120 Have you guys heard of the Nordics?

00:13:50.080 Yes.

00:13:50.480 The tall whites, blonde hair.

00:13:52.380 Those are fallen angels.

00:13:56.160 Now, not all of them are fallen.

00:13:58.760 This is where it gets weird, because Paul himself, Apostle Paul himself, goes as far as to say, be kind to strangers because you could be entertaining angels and not even know it.

00:14:10.080 So we have these beings every day that walk right by us, and you just – you don't know.

00:14:19.660 And sometimes someone's discernment can kick off.

00:14:22.860 And that might not even be a Christian.

00:14:24.940 It could just be someone – because, I mean, we're all both flesh and spirit, right?

00:14:30.300 We all are.

00:14:31.380 And so some people's spirit kind of just starts to, like, see things.

00:14:35.000 You see – you've got all kinds of people that they get abducted since they were a child.

00:14:40.020 And then they're never a Christian, and then they end up in, like, Stockholm Syndrome.

00:14:44.120 You guys know about L.A. Marzulli?

00:14:46.680 Yeah, we had L.A. on recently.

00:14:50.140 Really?

00:14:50.580 I didn't know that.

00:14:51.300 Yeah, my grandmother actually was an abductee victim from childhood, and I think that she kind of was one of those people that went the wrong way, maybe like a Stockholm Syndrome, like you're saying.

00:15:03.180 What Top is about to bring up is very interesting, because I thought of the exact same thing when you first started saying this.

00:15:08.140 They're sort of preparing us.

00:15:10.860 Have you seen this?

00:15:11.700 Yes, I did, actually.

00:15:14.320 What the hell am I looking at?

00:15:16.220 So there's a condition now where people are seeing people in real life, and their faces will – they're doing, like, a little, like, wee emoji person to describe what the other person is describing.

00:15:28.620 Eyes go to the side of their head.

00:15:30.020 Mouth gets real long.

00:15:31.100 And this is a condition that people are having, and they're saying, oh, it's a medical condition.

00:15:36.340 And I'm like, it might be a medical condition.

00:15:38.600 Demon face syndrome.

00:15:40.580 It might be a medical condition, or it might be fucking demons, dude.

00:15:43.140 That could be us looking right through the veil and then just seeing – they live by John Carpenter.

00:15:50.200 He puts the glasses on, and then he just sees, okay, that's not human, and then he can't stop staring at them.

00:15:56.180 He's just like, what the hell?

00:15:58.460 He's like, wait a second.

00:16:00.940 So I want to go back to something that you just touched on.

00:16:04.380 You said that you put the greys in a separate category.

00:16:07.080 This was sort of the butting of heads that at least I felt that I was having with Alvarino, who is a wealth of knowledge, awesome guest, but is very much – I mean, he's done as much research as he has.

00:16:21.160 And so I think he's very – not set in his ways, but he feels passionately about his positions.

00:16:25.180 But what I was suggesting was – and I'd love to know your take on this, Izzy – these greys, do you subscribe to the idea that this is a sort of biomechanical meat suit that can be inhabited by maybe the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim?

00:16:45.380 Maybe to be able to more accurately interface in a physical way with this realm, with this dimension, with human beings, whereas typically these things are sort of locked in a spiritual realm?

00:16:59.540 Well, years ago, my dad and I came to the conclusion, because my dad's obsessed with Genesis 6, we were talking about it, and I said, I see them as almost like a Nephilim 2.0.

00:17:11.280 Lo and behold, after hearing L.A. Marzulli and hearing – and it's not just L.A., but there are people – listen to the testimonies, like Dolly.

00:17:20.260 The testimonies over and over again is like, I saw it, freaked out, and then it was just – it was just a flesh suit, like an astronaut suit.

00:17:30.760 So we need that to – you know, not everyone subscribes to space, especially like lately, because everyone's questioning everything, which may not be a good thing, but hey.

00:17:40.260 But, like, the concept of if we're going to leave this plane of existence, we need something to get out of here, otherwise we're going to be dead, you know?

00:17:48.660 I mean, we go underwater, you have to wear something.

00:17:51.480 So, I mean, yeah, like for demons to actually be able to physically touch us also, this is extremely important to note as well.

00:17:58.100 The reason why I make that distinction between fallen angels and demons is because demons would be – think about a Nephilim or a demon in their past life.

00:18:10.600 They would be the perverted image of the face of God, right?

00:18:15.640 They would be half angel, half human, and essentially what they were trying to do was corrupt the incarnation.

00:18:22.340 They didn't know how far away Christ would be.

00:18:24.240 They didn't know when this Messiah would come, but they were trying to corrupt the incarnation.

00:18:27.340 That's all they were trying to do.

00:18:29.240 That's why I like studying demonology because it always points at the light.

00:18:32.440 The darkness points at the light.

00:18:33.740 Darkness is absence of light.

00:18:35.960 Do you think the major sin that they – like, so the fallen angels that were locked away, are those the ones – were those fallen locked away because they procreated with man?

00:18:49.720 Is that, like, the major sin?

00:18:51.860 Like, whereas Lucifer did not.

00:18:53.500 He's allowed to still roam.

00:18:54.640 There's still other ones around.

00:18:57.340 Yeah, I would say so.

00:18:59.800 I would say so.

00:19:00.600 In fact, go as far as to – okay, like, you know how people compare Sodom and Gomorrah to, like, today's time?

00:19:08.000 Yeah.

00:19:08.560 Okay, why hasn't God nuked any of our cities?

00:19:12.620 Exactly.

00:19:13.240 Because it's not – why hasn't he flooded the entire earth?

00:19:16.040 Well, he said he'd never do it again, but because the corruption is not there.

00:19:19.440 He's okay with nuking.

00:19:21.620 There was corruption in Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:19:23.880 The angels did not keep their – they did not keep their place of authority, their place of their proper dwelling.

00:19:29.660 They came down.

00:19:31.220 And it doesn't say what else they did in the book of Jude.

00:19:33.580 But what it does do is compare that, those angels, which you can assume is Genesis 6, it compares them to the people and their sexual immorality in Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:19:45.920 And Sodom and Gomorrah, what did they try to do?

00:19:49.040 So every man, young and old, all around the city of Sodom, one of the two angels that were trying to escort Lot and his family out.

00:19:59.500 They want to have sex with them.

00:20:00.600 That's weird.

00:20:01.120 That's weird.

00:20:02.360 And so I say, okay, obviously, like, I don't care how gay you are.

00:20:06.760 You're not going to be like that man now.

00:20:09.200 I'm going to jump on them.

00:20:10.420 Like, no.

00:20:11.360 Come on.

00:20:11.980 Let's be real here.

00:20:12.780 Nobody's that gay.

00:20:13.440 I mean, you, like, you're talking about every man in the city of Sodom.

00:20:18.220 Like, no.

00:20:19.320 They, you know, in the King James, it actually says, maybe King James, there's this weird phrase where it says they heap abuse on celestial beings in the book of Jude.

00:20:32.860 It's a really strange one.

00:20:34.320 In fact, let me see.

00:20:35.820 What's that expression again?

00:20:37.560 Heap, heap abuse on celestial beings.

00:20:40.180 So if we, yeah.

00:20:41.740 Jude 1.8.

00:20:49.120 Like, the ESV.

00:20:51.080 Can you guys see me okay?

00:20:51.940 Yeah.

00:20:52.180 Okay.

00:20:52.600 So in the ESV, it says they blaspheme the glorious ones.

00:20:57.440 In the NASB, it says they reject authority and speak abusively of angelic majesties.

00:21:03.820 In the KJV, it says they speak evil of dignities.

00:21:06.820 But then in the NIV, randomly, it just jumps off the rails and says, rejects authority and heaps abuse on celestial beings.

00:21:14.480 If you read Jude 1.8 in the NIV, you're like, wait a minute.

00:21:20.740 Were they just slandering these angels in Sodom and Gomorrah?

00:21:24.480 What else were they doing with them?

00:21:26.500 Raping them?

00:21:27.220 I believe that they were making some sort of deals and prostituting themselves.

00:21:32.720 I mean, look at the crazy new agers now.

00:21:35.080 What are they wanting to do with the aliens?

00:21:38.140 It's all the same thing.

00:21:40.280 Even Aleister Crowley said today they call them angels and demons.

00:21:43.640 Tomorrow they call them something else.

00:21:45.220 We're all talking about the same thing here.

00:21:46.660 Yeah, that's where people I actually had a bit of not an altercation, but some people on Twitter today got upset because I was saying that this one female artist, for lack of a better term, she's like this lady that's that's like full blown, you know, patchouli hippie.

00:22:04.880 And she's singing about like spiritual awakenings and doing ayahuasca and, you know, communing with aliens and, you know, the pyramids and what they were used for.

00:22:15.100 And she's like rapping, like apparently she's a decently successful artist.

00:22:19.700 And all I said was something about like, you know, this silly bitch is communing with Nephilim spirits.

00:22:25.700 And we kind of throw that terminology Nephilim around real loosely because it's a word that like catches people's attention and gets them to come to the table and go, whoa, what are we talking about here?

00:22:36.700 But, oh, my God, you have the thing.

00:22:39.180 I can't even stand this, but let's play it.

00:22:40.640 I've been learning shit from the aliens.

00:22:45.440 Like how we're all connected to the pyramids and how we used to use them for time.

00:22:50.660 I can't.

00:22:51.260 She's exhausting.

00:22:52.460 She's very exhausting.

00:22:53.820 Very, very upsetting.

00:22:54.800 But a lot of people were upset with me because it's this idea of like, oh, do you think that aliens are definitively bad or you can't have a positive experience with some sort of entity after doing DMT or doing ayahuasca or whatever the case may be?

00:23:09.340 And not everything is Nephilim.

00:23:11.220 And I'm like, well, number one, Twitter is not the place for nuance.

00:23:13.640 I'm just here to make fun of this white woman.

00:23:15.260 But if you want to get into it, you know, Izzy is much more.

00:23:19.560 That's it, man.

00:23:20.380 Can I live?

00:23:21.420 Can I live?

00:23:21.980 So, you know, Izzy is much more the guy for that sort of a speed.

00:23:26.800 But, you know, these people, the New Age movement is having them steamroll towards like, yeah, maybe we can astral project, right?

00:23:37.280 Maybe we can regularly commune with entities through some sort of drug use.

00:23:40.900 If you ask Jerry Marzinski, who is a clinical psychologist for 35 years dealing with schizophrenia, it's his contention that all drugs are a gateway.

00:23:50.460 It just is determined upon or the size of the gateway or the size of the portal or the amount of access granted to the individual by these entities is only determined by basically the substance that they're taking.

00:24:03.420 So, you know, if you take that into consideration that these substances are just portals and gateways for these entities to be able to interact with you, I don't really think that any of it is a good idea.

00:24:16.740 I wouldn't tell people not to do it.

00:24:18.720 I mean, you know, do whatever the hell you want to do.

00:24:20.420 That's your lot in life.

00:24:21.820 But, you know, as far as whether or not all of these things are bad entities or, you know, somebody was saying something to me today about, oh, when you take ayahuasca, you commune directly with Mother Earth, which is like, hey, that's a hell of an assumption.

00:24:38.000 And also, the idea that these things can't deceive you is hilarious.

00:24:43.260 And once you start communing with something that you consider Mother Earth, how long until you start to like pay homage, worship, idolize this thing?

00:24:50.800 And at that point, you just become a pagan.

00:24:52.600 You're just worshiping creation over the creator.

00:24:55.400 It's a slippery slope.

00:24:57.420 But, I mean, what are your thoughts on all that shit, Izzy?

00:25:01.620 Well, so I believe that the devil is not a creator.

00:25:06.540 He's a perverter.

00:25:07.260 So, anything that we find, like you guys saw my tweet.

00:25:12.600 Yeah, Top Lobster, you saw my tweet on demons are not creators.

00:25:18.420 So, if a spell works, it's because it's a mystery of heaven.

00:25:22.340 Yes.

00:25:22.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:23.380 Okay.

00:25:23.920 Sigils are a mystery of heaven.

00:25:25.400 Like Supernatural, where they quickly panic and draw something in blood because they cut their hand open and draw something in blood and then they smack their hand on it.

00:25:33.500 Now, most of that is fiction.

00:25:35.000 But there are bits of truth in Supernatural that I actually really enjoy when I want to kind of turn my brain off a little bit.

00:25:41.600 But, of course, not as successful since 2020.

00:25:44.340 My brain is always on now thanks to them and the bastards and, you know, high places.

00:25:50.340 Yes.

00:25:51.060 Join the club.

00:25:52.200 As far – well, I'll tell you this too.

00:25:54.340 My studies in demonology only – I tripled down on it because I wanted to see, okay, it's like if Christ is getting closer to us, which every day we get a little bit closer, tomorrow is not promised.

00:26:05.520 And then what's the devil doing?

00:26:08.420 He's panicking.

00:26:09.960 So now we have people that are, you know, like shaking their rear ends, their asses up and, you know, like Sam Smith and stuff, which – I mean, you know.

00:26:21.420 So, you know, let me get back on track.

00:26:25.720 So let's talk about this.

00:26:27.940 Chakras.

00:26:29.340 I do believe that chakras are a thing.

00:26:32.320 It just so happens that the pagans got to them first.

00:26:36.800 We have centers of the body that are – it's connected to our spirit.

00:26:41.540 So the third eye is also the pineal gland.

00:26:44.260 It's also the thing that builds up melatonin.

00:26:46.820 And now I'm talking about the physical aspect of it.

00:26:49.140 It builds melatonin in the body.

00:26:51.180 So as the sun goes down, the eye starts to close.

00:26:55.220 It builds up melatonin.

00:26:56.180 The person sleeps.

00:26:56.860 The person dreams.

00:26:57.660 Depending on where you believe, if you're a more intellectual Christian, you'll probably end.

00:27:01.400 up writing off dreams.

00:27:04.320 Of course, if you're someone like my wife, she'll wake up and say, give me a pen.

00:27:07.240 I just had a dream about something.

00:27:09.200 I experience that all the time with her.

00:27:11.480 And so I'm always telling her, keep a notebook nearby.

00:27:13.800 And her dreams are intensifying.

00:27:15.560 So that's even scarier.

00:27:16.740 But in fact, she actually had a dream about that boat in Maryland.

00:27:21.700 Whoa.

00:27:22.180 Oh, really?

00:27:22.820 When it happened, she said the only difference was that it was daytime, not nighttime.

00:27:26.360 He said, Israel, that happened.

00:27:28.880 Didn't Ryan Garcia, Ryan Garcia also said, uh, he tweeted some, something horrible.

00:27:34.680 I don't know.

00:27:35.560 So my thing with the Ryan Garcia thing, I don't know if you saw this, Izzy, but, uh, Ryan

00:27:39.780 Garcia is a famous boxer and he had a tweet resurface.

00:27:43.180 Um, he recently kind of went off the rails and was talking about Bohemian Grove.

00:27:46.800 His having attended Bohemian Grove at like two years old, they did terrible things to

00:27:51.580 him.

00:27:51.760 This kid is like a superstar in the boxing world.

00:27:54.160 He's, he's a bit of a phenom.

00:27:55.780 And so somebody dug this tweet up and what does it say?

00:27:58.480 Top of my screen is, is a little, doesn't need to play music.

00:28:02.380 It says, uh, something bad's going to happen in Baltimore, Maryland on March 26th, 2024.

00:28:07.580 So the thing that's significant about this is there's no attribution as far as the date.

00:28:13.040 We don't know when he said that.

00:28:14.480 So it could very well be fake.

00:28:15.740 The only thing is he tweeted it and he said, uh, this came from that time when I was saying

00:28:23.040 a bunch of crazy things and it wasn't me.

00:28:25.660 It was the Holy spirit speaking through me or something of that nature.

00:28:28.320 And a lot of my tweets were deleted during that timeframe, not of my own doing.

00:28:33.300 So either he's taking credit for something to sort of aggrandize himself, or this is something

00:28:38.560 that he said, which is, you know, uncanny and, and, and strange to say the least.

00:28:42.940 I don't know if he had a dream, but he had some sort of premonition either that or he was

00:28:46.240 keyed into some sort of information that made him privy to this.

00:28:49.620 But, uh, yeah, very strange thing.

00:28:52.300 I don't know where to place that.

00:28:53.480 He's a strange character in my book too, as, as much as he's sort of spilling all this

00:28:57.840 information out and saying things that conspiracy theorists have been saying for a long time.

00:29:01.840 But now you have this, this, like I said, this phenom, this superstar in the boxing world

00:29:05.600 sort of saying these things, um, unmitigated.

00:29:08.900 It's just, he's just saying all the world's most intense stuff.

00:29:13.040 Yeah.

00:29:13.640 Um, in fact, I actually knew, um, I haven't got to meet him before.

00:29:16.680 I don't know if you guys heard of a man by the name of Ty Jackson.

00:29:18.880 He is a, uh, he's a prophet of the Lord that I ended up meeting, meeting in, uh, 2021 online.

00:29:24.780 And we ended up becoming friends because I'm more of, I'm, I'm, I'm on the teacher side

00:29:28.780 of, of the Bible.

00:29:30.200 And what he'll do is, um, well, if you guys are familiar with them, as soon as he gets

00:29:35.460 a dream or a vision, he'll write it down and he'll document it.

00:29:38.140 He'll put it up on Facebook and he'll screenshot it.

00:29:40.840 And then when it comes to pass, he'll pull it back down and say, ah, predicted this or not

00:29:45.180 predict, but like God gave this to me and so on and so forth.

00:29:48.300 Ty Jackson also prayed over Ryan Garcia like a year ago and said, Jesus, I hope that you bring

00:29:53.300 down the fire of heaven on this man, anoint him with, so, I mean, you're talking about

00:30:00.260 when God does something to you, that's it.

00:30:02.580 You're, you can't undo that.

00:30:04.300 Everybody thinks this poor guy is crazy and he, he just received some crazy download.

00:30:09.720 Doesn't really know how to process it.

00:30:11.240 And everyone else around him thinks he thinks he went nuts.

00:30:14.140 Yeah.

00:30:14.600 That's horrible.

00:30:15.580 Yeah.

00:30:15.880 And, um, when, when God wants you to think about this, the devil wants you that much more.

00:30:20.080 That's really interesting because I find it comes this battle where it's just like, you

00:30:26.760 know, who's going to get you first.

00:30:28.500 Yeah.

00:30:28.960 You become, um, almost like a piece on the chessboard.

00:30:32.180 Once you're engaged in spiritual warfare, you're engaged and it's both sides.

00:30:35.320 Right.

00:30:37.040 Yeah.

00:30:37.420 There you go.

00:30:38.620 So it's interesting because I look at the Ryan Garcia thing and it's like when John Cena

00:30:44.540 had his thing recently and the whole world was going, he's having a humiliation ritual.

00:30:48.440 And as a conspiracy theorist for over half my life, I would typically love that sort of

00:30:55.020 dialogue.

00:30:55.520 But for some reason, I'm like, when I see everybody saying that I, I tend to pump the

00:31:00.100 brakes and, and fall back behind the herd who continues moving it.

00:31:03.680 So when I see Ryan Garcia being, like I said, unmitigated, nobody seems to be slowing him

00:31:10.920 down.

00:31:11.540 Kanye West did a bunch of crazy things.

00:31:13.120 It was very obvious that they did a lot of, you know, whatever they could to, to quiet

00:31:19.340 him and, and slow the narrative that he was pushing forward to, you know, the point where

00:31:24.880 they threatened to drug him into oblivion and keep him from seeing his children anymore.

00:31:27.700 But here is young Brian, just go, or I'm sorry, young Ryan.

00:31:30.340 Dave, I want to hit the brakes real quick and I want to go back.

00:31:33.180 Um, if you're comfortable, Izzy, just addressing what you said before.

00:31:37.820 Um, so your wife is writing stuff down after she has the dream.

00:31:43.700 Yeah.

00:31:44.800 Okay.

00:31:45.080 Not every single time.

00:31:46.020 And she loses notebooks like crazy, but when she does manage to hold onto one, um, she's,

00:31:50.860 she's undiagnosed ADD.

00:31:52.180 She loses notebooks all the time.

00:31:53.500 She's always buying new ones.

00:31:54.820 You see those memes of the mothers online that are always trying to buy crap with their pens

00:31:58.680 and then they lose them the next day.

00:32:00.000 But when she does manage to do it, yeah, she'll write them down.

00:32:03.440 All right.

00:32:04.100 Um, now the question is, if you feel comfortable answering, what prompted her to do that?

00:32:10.000 Because most people, whatever, from when I've heard people that are writing down dreams,

00:32:15.980 they might be trying to want to remember something specific.

00:32:18.660 Is she having any kind of like abduction scenario?

00:32:21.860 What's going on?

00:32:23.260 Well, I'd have to ask her about the specifics, but what I can tell you is that, um, what prompts

00:32:28.380 her to begin writing is when there is a clear and concise, um, set of events that stand out

00:32:37.960 in her mind.

00:32:38.720 And she will feel the emotion of whoever is around her at the time as if she's really

00:32:43.740 there.

00:32:44.680 Now, every once in a while, somebody might have a really bad dream about something and

00:32:49.020 go, oh my God, I'm so happy that didn't really happen.

00:32:51.200 Um, but I mean, my wife has had experiences of being in, um, what was it?

00:32:58.020 She was trapped in someone's car.

00:33:00.180 She, she had like a wreck or something and woke up and was like, Hey, we were leaving

00:33:04.780 Rock Hill.

00:33:05.320 She was like, Hey, um, slow down because I really want to make sure that we don't get

00:33:09.820 into a wreck.

00:33:10.480 I feel like this could really happen to us.

00:33:12.560 And then we saw a car in a ditch that it hit a pole or something and it looked bad.

00:33:18.880 And my, my wife just started like freaking out.

00:33:23.280 She was almost shutting down.

00:33:24.480 She was like, Oh my God, that could have been us.

00:33:25.760 That could have been us.

00:33:26.300 I could have, it's like, she was so, it doesn't happen a lot, but when I see it happen, I've

00:33:31.760 learned after nine years of us being together to take it very serious.

00:33:36.580 Yeah.

00:33:37.240 Interesting.

00:33:37.880 It's, it's one of those things where it also exhausts her.

00:33:40.520 So she'll wake up drained from this dream as if she was literally running a marathon,

00:33:47.940 but she's just trying to wake up.

00:33:53.360 Wow.

00:33:54.120 Maybe we need to have her.

00:33:56.180 She is incredibly shy, but I would love for her to be on, um, any podcast really to talk

00:34:02.680 about it because she is not in the social media space.

00:34:05.680 Like I am like not even close.

00:34:07.360 And I'll tell you something else.

00:34:08.800 You know, Bob Larson said something really interesting when he was, cause you know,

00:34:12.160 he went on to debate without me.

00:34:13.460 Did I tell you guys that?

00:34:15.220 He had, he debated you without you.

00:34:18.500 Oh yeah.

00:34:19.320 Yeah.

00:34:19.760 He did.

00:34:20.660 Um, he went and found a bunch of my pre-cut videos and was like, well, his team's pretty

00:34:25.320 good because I see that he, I imagine he talks like, he's like, it's pretty good.

00:34:29.920 I like his, uh, production quality is really up there.

00:34:32.440 And I'm like, that's all me.

00:34:35.380 I don't have a team.

00:34:36.840 Um, everything I do is on my own.

00:34:38.960 But, um, he said something really strange where I've never, I rarely even call myself

00:34:43.760 a teacher, uh, just cause I have a lot to learn.

00:34:46.580 And I try to be as modest as possible when it comes to teaching the scriptures or really

00:34:50.380 anything I know for that matter, um, in the paranormal space.

00:34:53.900 But he said something really weird where it was like, he said, I don't understand these

00:34:58.340 people who call themselves or, or I don't understand these people who identify as prophets or apostles.

00:35:05.700 And I'm like, I never call myself either of those things, but my wife has had some prophecies

00:35:14.200 and the, the, cause you know, in the Bible, it says that when two people are married, they're

00:35:20.560 one flesh.

00:35:21.020 So when I saw prophet and I saw apostle, I was like, okay, I can, I can see the prophet

00:35:28.660 cause, cause I don't have prophecies.

00:35:30.560 And I was like, oh no, I had a demon in 2020 back when I used to ghost hunt, randomly say

00:35:39.800 minister and this document, I'm looking at my, I'm looking at the little device where the

00:35:45.760 spirit speak through and I go, oh, I'm no minister.

00:35:48.320 Well, I'm something of a minister now, four years later.

00:35:52.960 So it's just those weird things where he, I truly, truly believe Bob Larson's discernment

00:35:59.720 went off and he just said what he believed the Holy spirit was telling him.

00:36:03.200 Cause I do believe Bob Larson's a Christian.

00:36:04.960 I believe he also has upset God for obvious reasons.

00:36:07.440 He even admitted that his ministry is going downhill, but, um, him saying that I was, I, I turned

00:36:15.080 to my, uh, crowd.

00:36:16.080 I had the, uh, guys on my chat cause I was blind reacting to my, to my own, you know, his critique

00:36:21.580 of me.

00:36:22.380 I turned to everyone.

00:36:23.620 I was like, uh, that was weird.

00:36:25.580 I don't like that.

00:36:28.480 I do not like that.

00:36:31.020 It's weird because when, as these, as when, when God wants you to do something, he wants

00:36:38.500 you bad enough, he will crush you like a, like a piece of clay and then turn you and twist

00:36:44.800 you and then turn you into something better, but it hurts.

00:36:48.020 And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.

00:36:51.240 I apologize.

00:36:51.800 Go ahead.

00:36:52.580 No, no.

00:36:53.180 I was just going to say, it's interesting when you find yourself in this space, you know,

00:36:56.620 we've accumulated an audience based off of looking at the supernatural and the conspiratorial

00:37:03.980 through the Christian worldview.

00:37:05.840 And you end up sort of amassing people alongside you and, and taking them on this walk with you

00:37:13.800 to this weird place, you know, where you're learning all these things together.

00:37:17.440 And in a way, it feels like you're leading, you know, you're leading people to, to God.

00:37:26.680 And, but on the other hand, we are constantly reminding people that we are retarded.

00:37:35.480 Both top and I are completely retarded.

00:37:38.440 And so it's a weird place to find yourself in because people do look at us, not necessarily

00:37:46.640 as like leaders or anything like that, but like they're refreshed to find people whose

00:37:52.220 worldview aligns with theirs.

00:37:53.860 And at least like we get to be sort of a mouthpiece for them, you know, where we get to interview

00:37:58.200 people like you and, and hopefully they find it interesting.

00:38:01.660 And it aligns with, you know, where their heart is bringing them, which ideally is where

00:38:05.700 God is leading them.

00:38:07.400 But they don't know, or maybe they do know that the people they're walking alongside are

00:38:11.680 completely retarded.

00:38:13.140 But you were talking about your, your wife and her, her sort of these, I guess, prophecies,

00:38:18.620 right?

00:38:19.540 Go ahead.

00:38:20.160 It is interesting, like kind of adding into what you were saying, Izzy.

00:38:22.860 Um, and I think I've told you before, David, when I used to go to church, when I was like

00:38:27.060 still dating my wife, I played guitar in there, had a big falling out with the church at the

00:38:32.640 time of the falling out.

00:38:33.620 One of the elders, uh, a woman came up to me and she like, uh, she was praying for me

00:38:38.500 or something.

00:38:39.340 And then she said, you're going to speak to like millions of people.

00:38:44.840 You're going to be a speed.

00:38:45.760 And at the time I'm like, um, yeah, no, I'm going to do general construction.

00:38:51.080 And then I'm going to drive a truck for the next 10 years.

00:38:55.300 And then I'm not going to do any of them.

00:38:57.000 I'm also going to ignore my artistic talent that I've had since junior high school.

00:39:02.600 And then like, I picked that up, puts me into this space, uh, to the point where then I start

00:39:08.180 talking into a microphone.

00:39:09.180 And then now looking back on it, I have spoke to millions of people.

00:39:14.160 Like if you've taken, if you take the audience sizes of all the shows that I've done, you

00:39:19.100 know, just Tim cast one time was 500,000.

00:39:22.420 Now I'm thinking about, I'm like that bitch is when she told me that I wanted to, I wanted

00:39:28.300 to tell her, like, you know, like get slick with her.

00:39:30.940 She's an elder, but I wanted to be like, yeah, up yours.

00:39:33.240 Like, you know, I'm not doing that.

00:39:34.860 I was, I had one foot out the church.

00:39:36.480 I was like, I'm out of here.

00:39:37.820 Like what happened there?

00:39:39.500 And then you're going to tell me that.

00:39:40.760 And now I'm like, huh, now here I am.

00:39:44.980 What am I doing here?

00:39:47.000 Right.

00:39:47.380 I, well, you would hope that we're at least, you know, when I pray to Jesus, I asked to

00:39:54.120 be like guided on a path that is in alignment with his will.

00:39:58.640 Like, and, and that's the most that I can hope for with whatever it is that I'm doing

00:40:03.020 is like, please let me be doing things and showing people things that are in alignment

00:40:09.280 with God's will.

00:40:10.240 And that's, you know, if I can do that, then I'm cool.

00:40:13.080 But, um, you know, Izzy, you're talking about this whole writing down your, your dreams.

00:40:19.400 Right.

00:40:20.020 And I don't know if, if, um, have you ever engaged in that Izzy?

00:40:24.980 What in the whole dream space prophecies?

00:40:27.520 Yeah, no, I mean like waking up and writing down like a dream journal.

00:40:33.020 Let me reflect.

00:40:34.360 Um, I had one, I had one, um, Jim Carrey retired now, of course he's kind of retired

00:40:46.560 now, right?

00:40:48.560 And even at the time of me having the dream, he retired as the guy that we know him as.

00:40:53.760 And in the dream, I saw VHS tapes of like his best hits, the mask, um, dumb and dumber

00:41:02.720 Ace Ventura.

00:41:03.880 And it was set up with flowers.

00:41:05.800 And I remember weeping and weeping and weeping.

00:41:08.560 I was crying over him.

00:41:10.840 And it was like a, if, if anything, it was, it was never said out loud, like literally a

00:41:17.220 funeral.

00:41:17.520 But when I woke up, I was like, that was so sad.

00:41:20.100 I missed Jim Carrey.

00:41:20.760 And I was like, wait, he's still alive.

00:41:21.960 And so I documented that.

00:41:23.580 It's got somewhere on Facebook where I was like, um, keep Jim Carrey in your prayers.

00:41:27.520 Cause he might, if something could happen to him, I believe it could have been, um, suicide.

00:41:33.400 Oh, that's interesting.

00:41:35.500 Um, but then again, that I am not the kind of person to have those sorts of dreams.

00:41:40.260 So maybe it could have just been a wacky thing.

00:41:42.480 The only way to really test a prophet's words is to see what comes to pass.

00:41:45.940 That's it.

00:41:47.080 Um, but as far as, um, I do have a theory about, um, deja vu.

00:41:52.280 I don't know if you guys are familiar with, um, the way that people think of deja vu.

00:41:56.880 You ever like, you know, the basic concepts of deja vu where you go and experience something

00:42:04.340 and then you're like, no, no, no, no.

00:42:05.880 I've been here before.

00:42:06.820 And then wait, wait, wait, can I just interject for a minute, Izzy, wherever we're going with

00:42:11.100 this, I got to tell you, this is one of my favorite subjects that have absolutely, it

00:42:15.740 has no depth whatsoever because, uh, um, deja vu is the most, I think about it all the time

00:42:21.660 where I'm like, you have a sensation that you're hungry and that makes sense.

00:42:25.360 You're hungry.

00:42:25.840 You eat something.

00:42:26.660 The sensation is because you haven't eaten, you know, you have a sensation that you're

00:42:31.020 sleepy and you go, it's because I'm tired and I need to go to sleep.

00:42:34.060 I haven't slept in a, you have a sensation that time itself has happened in the very way

00:42:41.220 that it's happening right now, but you have been around to experience it before.

00:42:46.280 Everybody knows what that feels like, but that's the end of it.

00:42:49.740 You go, well, I don't know what to do with that.

00:42:52.160 So you throw it away and don't think about it anymore.

00:42:54.500 It's an, it's an absolutely, I think about all the, the only reason nobody freaks out

00:42:59.680 about it is because it happens so regularly and everybody across every culture experiences

00:43:05.220 it, but it is definitionally bizarre.

00:43:08.780 There is no other sensation that will make you feel like, you know what I feel right now?

00:43:13.460 I feel like time's on a loop.

00:43:15.160 Does anybody else feel like time's on a loop?

00:43:17.020 Like what in the world, dude?

00:43:19.000 Like, I feel like I have to shit.

00:43:20.280 I guess it's just me.

00:43:22.080 Oh, it feels like time's on a loop again.

00:43:24.780 No problem.

00:43:25.380 Well, have you ever compared deja vu to try to remember a dream you just woke up from?

00:43:31.380 It's very similar in the way that you, you, it slips through your fingers and now you're

00:43:36.500 not even sure.

00:43:37.060 The harder you try to grip it, the harder you try to grip it, the quicker it goes away

00:43:40.500 and you're like, damn it, get back here.

00:43:41.380 And you're actively forgetting.

00:43:42.900 You're forgetting within seconds of remembering.

00:43:47.160 Same.

00:43:47.580 I consider it the same exact feeling.

00:43:49.720 And the reason is because I believe that deja vu is simply dreams of the future that you

00:43:56.160 just couldn't remember.

00:43:59.160 You don't remember having the dream.

00:44:00.940 Yeah, you had the dream.

00:44:02.360 You saw the future.

00:44:03.820 And I think people do it.

00:44:05.360 It's the fluoride in our water.

00:44:06.920 I'm telling you.

00:44:08.280 Well, I had a friend growing up.

00:44:10.800 This is the second time I brought him up in two episodes.

00:44:13.240 Shout out to John.

00:44:14.220 It's my childhood best friend.

00:44:16.120 He was before, before I was old enough to think that that's weird.

00:44:22.960 And back in like fifth, sixth, seventh grade, he would be like, yeah, I like regularly have

00:44:29.500 dreams and then they come true, but they're very benign.

00:44:32.800 Like one time we were standing on my friend's front porch waiting for him to answer the doorbell

00:44:37.960 and John goes, oh, I've had this dream before.

00:44:41.040 Yeah, his mom's going to answer the door.

00:44:42.440 And like he's like, yeah, the bird over there, the way it is right now, the sun, the sounds

00:44:47.120 that the up and then his mom opened the door and then that was it.

00:44:50.000 He's like, and that's as far as it goes, but he was able to predict like the next series

00:44:53.580 of very small, insignificant events.

00:44:55.740 And he's like, that just happened regularly.

00:44:57.640 So when I would explain to him what deja vu is, it's interesting.

00:45:00.480 You should say that I would say deja vu is like a sensation.

00:45:04.580 And he would say deja vu comes from the dreams that I had of this very moment.

00:45:11.040 Plus I was making the joke about, uh, it's the fluoride in our water.

00:45:14.360 You know, you got Alex Jones that says, uh, the water's turned the fricking frogs gay.

00:45:18.420 We could have something in our water.

00:45:23.380 Maybe it could be in our food too.

00:45:25.460 This there's no way this is good for me, but if it's, if it's keeping the Bob, the body

00:45:32.480 discombobulated from the spirit, no wonder why, like, it's like, we're so close yet so

00:45:37.200 far away from the, the, just the basic gifts of God that come to us every day.

00:45:43.500 Cause we're not just flesh.

00:45:45.920 We're not just spirit.

00:45:46.860 We're both.

00:45:48.460 Well, some people say that there might be a 13 month calendar, but you can go even simpler

00:45:53.960 and be like, why the fuck do we keep changing the time every, every year back and forth

00:45:58.840 and forward and backwards.

00:46:00.060 It's fucking crazy.

00:46:01.000 Yeah.

00:46:02.560 It's just to keep you kind of like, like, like slightly off balance.

00:46:06.240 Like you can't ever have your head on straight.

00:46:08.760 Something is constantly nudging you.

00:46:10.620 If your bills or whatever isn't fucking you up, if you know, general life around you isn't

00:46:15.480 going crazy.

00:46:16.380 If the world isn't collapsing, we're like, we're going to change the time too.

00:46:19.420 Right.

00:46:19.920 Because God forbid.

00:46:22.380 Izzy, you're saying that we're, you know, we're, we're spiritual as well as physical and

00:46:25.940 we're, and you're talking about God's gifts.

00:46:27.260 And this is kind of what I was getting at before with the dream journal, excuse me, dream

00:46:30.480 journal is like, I do believe that we have these innate abilities.

00:46:34.680 Like, I think that astral projection is more than likely a capability that human beings

00:46:38.660 have.

00:46:39.040 I think that, you know, premonition through dreams, lucid dreaming probably serves a function

00:46:45.220 if, you know, you're doing it while being guided by God.

00:46:49.440 But these things are so as a society, we were so detached from them.

00:46:53.760 And the only people that have a stranglehold on these functions right now, like astral

00:46:57.580 projection or, or meditation or any of these things, right.

00:47:00.640 Or, you know, you, you said chakras before aligning your chakras and yoga, who has a stranglehold

00:47:05.200 on this?

00:47:05.620 Well, it's the new age movement.

00:47:07.420 And, and, and I'm not, you know, people talk about Christian mysticism and that's like,

00:47:12.220 even that's like, well, man, I certainly don't want to slip into this weird place of like

00:47:15.880 Christ consciousness or some crap like that.

00:47:17.700 But, um, which even, you know, who knows, maybe that has his validity, but as far as

00:47:21.240 I'm concerned, you know, Jesus is somebody who, who died for our sins and literally so

00:47:26.240 that we can, you know, find forgiveness and, and go to heaven and that the path is through

00:47:30.940 him.

00:47:31.480 Is that where the buck stops?

00:47:32.820 I don't know.

00:47:33.400 I'm, I'm genuinely at this point afraid to like explore anything else and accidentally

00:47:39.400 slip into some new age shit.

00:47:41.080 That's going to send me careening down a cliffside.

00:47:43.540 Like I have, uh, something that I think is the ability of like some sort of astral projection.

00:47:49.220 I don't like doing it because when I do it, two things about it.

00:47:52.640 One, the overall vibe of the room gets creepy as hell afterwards.

00:47:56.760 And two, it's real, it's really hard to turn off.

00:47:59.380 I can't, I, it's hard for me to go to sleep afterwards.

00:48:01.320 Cause every time I close my eyes, I still see like shit.

00:48:05.160 I don't know, stars, objects, places, like I see things and I don't like that.

00:48:10.180 So I don't do it, but it feels like this thing that's sitting on a shelf and collecting

00:48:13.400 dust.

00:48:13.840 What is, what is your opinion on these?

00:48:16.620 I don't know if we're touching on the same thing, but it's like you, you use the word

00:48:20.160 gifts, gifts from God.

00:48:22.580 But like, are we, how do we even begin to explore them without falling into this, this, you

00:48:29.580 know, swamp?

00:48:31.240 Okay.

00:48:31.800 Well, uh, firstly, my wife actually did astral project for a long time and she never had

00:48:37.240 control over it.

00:48:38.140 She would blink and then open her eyes and be in different places while asleep.

00:48:41.820 And in fact, she actually invaded someone by accident during astral projection and pissed

00:48:46.520 them off.

00:48:47.140 They were like, what the hell are you doing here?

00:48:48.600 Funny thing though, that person worked at the same pagan store as her.

00:48:52.840 So it was just, and she never meant to, but the last time that she did it, once again,

00:48:58.340 an accident, she never had control over it.

00:49:00.640 Um, she was kind of zipping around, came back to her body and saw a demon trying to crawl

00:49:05.320 into it.

00:49:08.320 Whoa.

00:49:09.320 Yeah.

00:49:10.320 Well, I mean, if it's a vacant body.

00:49:11.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:49:12.320 And she said, it was the first time I ever confronted a demon.

00:49:15.440 And I will never second guess being able to use your words as power ever again, because

00:49:20.120 I did it while astral projecting.

00:49:21.780 She wasn't, she was just in spirit, saw her body there.

00:49:25.620 And then she rebuked it.

00:49:27.320 What, what is the, do you remember what she described it looking like?

00:49:30.580 No, but I will say she can see the stuff I can't.

00:49:37.080 So it's this weird thing where like, it turns into trust in the relationship because she'll,

00:49:41.920 she'll be like, um, yeah, you know, you don't want to see these things.

00:49:44.580 And I'm like, well, maybe I do.

00:49:46.080 You know, it's, it's hard, it's kind of hard to scare me.

00:49:48.920 Um, nowadays, you know, I used to be the ghost hunter.

00:49:51.700 I still don't mind actually using equipment on the paranormal just because I know that the

00:49:56.020 demon to ghost ratio is more like a 10 to one.

00:49:59.120 So you really want to be careful, like doing that and be, be aware of what you're doing.

00:50:03.980 If you're going to do it.

00:50:05.020 Um, I would love nothing more than a demon hunting show where people are just casting

00:50:08.980 things out of homes and stuff.

00:50:10.500 I think that would be the coolest thing you'd watch.

00:50:12.220 Wait a second.

00:50:12.740 You're everywhere.

00:50:13.520 Back up, back up, back up, back up, back up, back up.

00:50:15.380 Can't just let you slip there.

00:50:16.920 Yeah.

00:50:17.180 Yeah.

00:50:17.400 The demon to ghost ratio is 10 to one.

00:50:21.100 I love that statistic.

00:50:22.780 Yeah.

00:50:23.140 It's like, what the fuck?

00:50:23.880 You can't just say that.

00:50:25.160 Oh, sorry.

00:50:25.760 Sorry.

00:50:26.320 Sorry.

00:50:26.660 Okay.

00:50:26.980 So, uh, it's a guesstimate, but, um, no, the reason I say that is because there's only

00:50:30.960 a couple of ghost instances in the Bible, but I do believe, absolutely believe that ghosts

00:50:35.340 are a thing.

00:50:36.820 What is the difference in how does something become a ghost rather than a demon?

00:50:41.680 So, um, ghosts are disembodied people.

00:50:44.020 Demons are disembodied Nephilim.

00:50:45.360 That's it.

00:50:45.900 Basically what you guys believe as far as Nephilim goes.

00:50:49.000 How would somebody become disembodied?

00:50:51.200 Like, uh, maybe someone.

00:50:52.400 Um, if they died and I'm not saying like, go like, you know, Patrick Swayze from ghost,

00:50:57.600 but like, you know, just the idea of someone that is kind of on their journey of going into

00:51:03.220 the afterlife.

00:51:03.820 Because first of all, the white throne judgment is not here yet.

00:51:08.220 And people do not have these little separate judgments.

00:51:10.920 You know, you hear in the West, especially they say, oh, you're judged by God.

00:51:14.600 As soon as you die.

00:51:16.100 That's not true.

00:51:18.600 When you, when you die, you have a journey to go on and we don't know it because the Bible

00:51:24.700 is for the living, not the dead.

00:51:27.180 So it's just one of those things where I believe, I just believe that ghosts are an anomaly.

00:51:32.560 I mean, look at the disciples.

00:51:33.920 They thought Jesus was a ghost and they, they're ready to jump out that boat.

00:51:37.620 Samuel prophesying nonetheless, when coming up out of the ground.

00:51:41.280 Um, and then of course, Saul not being able to see him because all he's asking the, the

00:51:46.980 witch of Endor is, hey, what do you see?

00:51:49.400 He, he doesn't know.

00:51:51.120 And she's just interesting because I sometimes think that more than likely when it comes to

00:51:57.280 that realm, time doesn't function the same there as it does here.

00:52:01.580 And so when we see a lot of people are like, oh, what?

00:52:03.400 So you die.

00:52:04.060 And then you're just like walking around for hundreds of years.

00:52:07.660 You know, there's always that cliche joke of seeing like the woman in the old timey dress

00:52:11.260 and it's like, oh, she's just been haunting this place.

00:52:13.180 It's like, I don't know that time works the way it does here, uh, in that realm.

00:52:17.780 You know, I just had like a discussion argument with my mother and my, my father, and I'm not

00:52:24.480 quite sure where I stand on this.

00:52:26.560 Um, so I was just saying like, Hey, you use when, when she's like ministering to somebody,

00:52:32.580 I'm like, you use heaven and hell quite prominently.

00:52:36.420 And I'm like, hasn't worked well for you.

00:52:39.480 Maybe readjust that.

00:52:40.940 And I'm like, and also like, like, it gets me thinking like, what exactly is hell?

00:52:45.220 What, what is heaven?

00:52:46.540 Like, so it's like, you're saying that like, you can't go to heaven if you haven't been judged,

00:52:51.500 but you can't go to hell.

00:52:53.040 So what goes on?

00:52:55.200 So it's, it's like this, uh, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

00:53:01.520 Now that, that scripture is for the Christians because it's because Paul is speaking about

00:53:05.900 himself there.

00:53:07.200 So, um, Hebrews chapter 12, verse one, and I'm bad with like, I'm better with phrases

00:53:13.800 of the Bible rather than scriptures.

00:53:16.040 It just occurred to me.

00:53:17.280 That's the first time I was able to pick it off the top of my head.

00:53:20.080 But, um, Hebrews chapter 12, verse one says that, uh, you guys out, out, out, out.

00:53:25.640 My kids are running rampant.

00:53:27.540 Um, no, Hebrews chapter 12, verse one says that we have a host of heaven.

00:53:32.280 We have a cloud of witnesses above us.

00:53:34.420 Well, look in the early, early church.

00:53:36.000 You have the icons and of the saints.

00:53:39.160 And they, and if you look at Orthodox theology and Catholic theology, they get this right.

00:53:45.700 There is no soul sleep.

00:53:47.020 Soul sleep is actually a very new phenomenon that gave rise in the late Protestant era,

00:53:53.200 probably even as late as the 1800s.

00:53:55.800 So like 300 years after the reformation guys out, out, Sam.

00:54:01.900 It's okay to beat them on camera.

00:54:03.540 Beat the children.

00:54:04.960 Don't beat the children.

00:54:07.300 They sound adorable.

00:54:09.040 Thank you.

00:54:09.900 Yeah.

00:54:10.040 But yeah, so now we have, we have the great cloud of witnesses.

00:54:15.740 Um, they're not just angels.

00:54:17.000 They're also saints.

00:54:18.680 This is why, um, the Catholics and the Orthodox Christians both believe that, um, we can pray.

00:54:24.780 We can ask, um, you can ask any of the saints to pray for us and we can pray for the saints

00:54:30.500 because we're active members of the body.

00:54:33.280 We're just in two different addresses the same way that I can pray for you.

00:54:36.980 You can pray for me.

00:54:39.620 You know, I have a story.

00:54:41.440 Um, and, uh, I know top has heard this before, but our audience has grown substantially.

00:54:46.900 I think since the last time that I shared it, and I'd be really interested in getting your

00:54:50.460 thoughts on it, Izzy, as to like what it was that I encountered.

00:54:53.620 And I was thinking about it before, cause you said, you don't see these things, but your

00:54:56.940 wife does.

00:54:57.720 This was actually something that I saw, my wife saw, and my son saw.

00:55:01.240 So I'll keep it a little bit short winded.

00:55:03.580 It's, it's a little bit of a long story, but basically, uh, there was a period in time

00:55:08.620 where I packed up my entire family and we moved to Las Vegas from New Jersey.

00:55:13.720 And, um, we aimed to sort of cut a life out there and things just didn't go our way.

00:55:18.840 Um, and financially it just wasn't working out and I was starting to worry that we might

00:55:26.020 fail at this endeavor and something ended up happening back in New Jersey, uh, uh, sickness

00:55:31.160 in the family that gave us a reason to go back.

00:55:34.720 But it kind of felt like I hadn't out, you know what I mean?

00:55:38.040 Like almost like I was looking for a reason and this unfortunate thing happened.

00:55:44.420 And in a way I was almost relieved.

00:55:46.700 And so we go back to New Jersey and I am, uh, sort of plagued by feelings of failure.

00:55:57.080 We land with the in-laws and the in-laws are Jehovah witnesses and they are sort of at odds

00:56:05.800 with me because I am worldly and all these different things in hindsight.

00:56:10.680 I'm like, maybe they weren't so wrong, uh, because I was kind of an idiot and still am

00:56:15.780 an idiot, but I end up barricading myself in one room.

00:56:20.880 It's just me and my wife and my son in one spare bedroom that these people were lovely

00:56:25.740 enough to, to open their doors for us and give us a place to stay while we got on our

00:56:29.980 feet.

00:56:30.220 But instead of being gracious and, and, and thankful, I kind of went inward and just stopped

00:56:38.500 socializing.

00:56:39.920 Really not a great deal.

00:56:41.240 My wife and my son would be downstairs playing with the in-laws.

00:56:43.660 I would be upstairs in this room, uh, feeling like a failure playing Red Dead Redemption

00:56:48.960 too.

00:56:49.660 And which is a tremendous game.

00:56:50.960 And, uh, so now knowing him, so I heard the story before, but knowing you for a little

00:56:55.820 while longer, extremely unusual for David to not talk to if someone's in the room, he's

00:57:01.560 going to be talking to you, even if you don't, especially if you don't want him to.

00:57:04.620 So that's strange.

00:57:07.580 Yeah.

00:57:08.160 I, um, I, I not, not regressed isn't, but I, I sort of went inward and I started to live

00:57:16.020 life on repeat.

00:57:17.080 So I would, my wife would bring me up a dish that her, her mother made nonetheless, of

00:57:22.620 which I would not thank her mother.

00:57:23.940 I would take the dish in the room, eat dinner, play Red Dead Redemption, not be around except

00:57:29.320 for just going to work, coming back, rinsing and repeating really just a terrible, like

00:57:33.480 very embarrassing.

00:57:35.400 Um, in hindsight, it was like one of the lowest moments that I had.

00:57:38.380 So I knew that I felt like a failure.

00:57:40.960 I guess I didn't necessarily have good tabs on like the depression that was sort of

00:57:45.940 eking into my life as I think as men, we often don't have a good feel for like that

00:57:51.120 kind of an emotion, like a sadness.

00:57:52.740 Like I know I'm angry and I know I feel like I, I fucked up, but I don't feel sad, but I

00:57:57.220 guess I did.

00:57:57.940 So what ends up happening is like this four night, like horror film, really, where one

00:58:06.840 day I'm playing Red Dead Redemption, eating my dinner, and eventually it's time to go to

00:58:11.940 sleep and I have this experience where, um, I wake up to someone banging, knocking on

00:58:21.160 the door and I jump up out of bed and I look down out of the window to the front door and

00:58:28.100 I don't see anybody.

00:58:29.400 And it's like, yeah, unfortunately it's like three o'clock in the morning and I go, I don't

00:58:34.820 think anybody was there.

00:58:35.760 Nobody else seems to have heard this.

00:58:37.780 So I'm a little bit bothered, you know, a little bit creeped out, but I try to go back

00:58:42.660 to sleep.

00:58:43.180 As soon as I drift off, I hear it again.

00:58:45.400 Boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:58:47.000 Um, I get up, I look out the window.

00:58:49.120 No one's there.

00:58:49.980 No one's heard it.

00:58:51.220 I fall asleep again and it happens again.

00:58:54.380 And now I basically stay up till the sun comes up cause I'm freaked out.

00:58:58.340 So I keep it to myself because I always say that you see a horror movie and you're like,

00:59:02.480 why aren't they telling each other like that they saw a ghost?

00:59:05.000 Like, no, you keep that shit to yourself because there's this feeling that like, if you feed

00:59:09.140 into it, it's going to get worse.

00:59:11.080 And also if you bring it up to like your wife, now all of a sudden you have to talk about

00:59:15.080 it.

00:59:15.280 And what is there to talk about?

00:59:16.280 There's nothing to talk about.

00:59:17.100 It's just creepy.

00:59:17.740 And I don't know what to tell you.

00:59:18.820 So I keep it to myself.

00:59:20.380 Next night rolls around.

00:59:21.380 It's not like you have a solution to it just cause you talk about it.

00:59:24.680 Exactly.

00:59:25.180 That's really where I'm coming from.

00:59:26.760 And so the next night I wake up to something pulling my arm off the bed and I'm like, man,

00:59:34.840 that's, that sucks.

00:59:37.080 So I, no, I fall asleep.

00:59:40.600 It happens again.

00:59:42.280 Now I tuck my arm into the blanket.

00:59:45.300 Like I'm like, can't get it if you can't touch it, bitch.

00:59:48.000 And something grabs my ankle this time and pulls it off the bed.

00:59:52.080 And so I spend the rest of the night till the sun comes up, scrolling through my phone.

00:59:57.280 I go to work.

00:59:58.220 Now I'm like running off low sleep, right?

01:00:00.300 The third night, I still haven't said anything to my wife.

01:00:02.480 The third day rolls around, come back from work, eat dinner, play video games, go to sleep.

01:00:07.460 And I have a nightmare.

01:00:10.120 And in this nightmare, I see very clearly this being, this entity that I'm staring at.

01:00:17.660 The entire dream is just me staring at this thing.

01:00:19.860 And there's no interaction.

01:00:22.800 There's no movement or anything on my behalf.

01:00:26.400 But I do remember being there for a while.

01:00:28.840 And it's, I'm in a, a space, a void.

01:00:32.660 So there's no walls or ceilings.

01:00:34.820 And in the center of it is this, um, so it's like a dude in the sense that it's got arms and legs and a head and all that shit.

01:00:47.980 And it's kind of muscular, like enough that it was like, I remember looking at it and feeling intimidated just based off of the muscular structure of it.

01:00:57.740 Its skin had a sort of a print to it, like a cheetah print, like a gray, but a gray and black, not like a yellow and black.

01:01:04.960 A gray and black cheetah print.

01:01:08.000 Um, and it had canine teeth on the bottom that were actually protruding and hugging its upper lip.

01:01:18.520 And its eyes were like bright red, like, I always say like maraschino cherries, like that kind of a red, like illuminating red.

01:01:27.880 And it was just breathing, like its chest was heaving up and down.

01:01:32.840 It was taking these deep breaths, like it was filled with rage.

01:01:35.120 And that's it.

01:01:36.160 I'm just looking at this thing and there's like a black mist, like all around its legs.

01:01:40.720 And I'm just looking at this thing and, and that's, that's the whole dream.

01:01:44.080 It's just, it's breathing.

01:01:45.180 I'm looking at it and I'm there for a long ass time.

01:01:47.300 So I wake up that morning to my wife.

01:01:53.980 Well, no, I wake up and, and everything is kind of normal.

01:01:57.500 And then my wife wakes up and she tells me that she had a, a dream that she starts describing as sleep paralysis, but she doesn't really, she's never had sleep paralysis.

01:02:07.180 So I recognized it.

01:02:08.220 I knew what it was, but she's like, I couldn't move.

01:02:10.840 And I'm like stuck in the bed and I can only move my eyeballs.

01:02:14.560 And when I look over towards you, there is this, you know, monster with black and gray skin and bright red eyes and giant teeth pushing you into the bed.

01:02:25.220 It's sitting on your chest and it's pinning you into the bed and I can't wake up to, to save you from it.

01:02:31.160 And I go, I go, wow, that sucks, man.

01:02:36.080 That's a crazy fucking dream to have.

01:02:38.120 I just like totally, I'm like really upset about this, but I'm not letting her know because what now what?

01:02:46.160 I really wish it would stop, but I don't know.

01:02:48.640 So I leave it alone.

01:02:50.660 I don't say anything next day, rinse and repeat, same life, fall asleep.

01:02:55.120 And everything seems cool.

01:02:56.560 I wake up in the morning to my wife taking a video.

01:02:59.160 She's like, hey, look at this video I was taking of you while you're sleeping.

01:03:01.660 And it's like my jugular is like spasming really aggressively, like the blood is pumping.

01:03:07.260 And she's like, yeah, you were struggling.

01:03:09.440 The video was only like five seconds long or 10 seconds long.

01:03:12.060 So she didn't leave me there to suffer.

01:03:13.480 But she was like, I got to show him this because it's crazy.

01:03:15.900 And then she woke me up.

01:03:16.820 And as I'm watching this video, suddenly my son, who's sleeping on an air mattress next to us, sits up and starts screaming about a monster with bright red eyes and big sharp teeth.

01:03:26.580 And I was like, so I end up praying.

01:03:33.340 This is the first time I ever did this, praying like desperately to Jesus Christ to please protect my family and to cast this thing out of the home.

01:03:43.220 And it never happens again.

01:03:44.980 It never happens again after that.

01:03:47.280 And so that was like a pivotal moment for me.

01:03:49.700 But I'd love to get your because this didn't feel like a ghost.

01:03:53.160 Right.

01:03:53.480 Like this was not this felt like honestly, to me, it felt like rage embodied.

01:03:58.960 How long?

01:03:59.940 Like that's what it felt like.

01:04:02.320 Shit.

01:04:03.100 That was.

01:04:04.520 So it's interesting because when I met you, I really kind of was like, honestly, I was emboldened by my relationship with you to fully go in this direction.

01:04:12.300 I was already putting my foot in this direction.

01:04:14.220 But once I met you, it was like off to the races.

01:04:16.960 But this happened and my my coming to God and fully realizing this, like I never denied Christ after that, but I was still slow to like enter this space that happened in probably 2000 and that would have been 2020 just as as COVID hit.

01:04:39.740 Well, yeah.

01:04:43.080 No, definitely not a ghost.

01:04:46.680 Ghosts.

01:04:47.480 Ghosts can't hurt you.

01:04:49.400 Ghosts can't possess the living.

01:04:51.280 Ghosts are simply on a journey and they're not even they don't even belong here.

01:04:55.420 If you see a ghost, it's either God granting someone passage to in order to give a message.

01:05:01.800 Oh, my wife's grandmother.

01:05:05.520 So my son's great grandmother fended off some scary monster in my son's dream and she smiled and waved and then disappeared into a light.

01:05:18.220 And my son, not understanding that she already died weeks before, started screaming, Gigi is gone, Gigi is gone, Gigi is gone.

01:05:26.180 Like he was understanding that, but he was mostly not.

01:05:30.480 He wasn't all the way nonverbal, but but he was coming out of being nonverbal.

01:05:33.700 So ghosts do cross through through our world, but they don't belong here.

01:05:40.180 So and, you know, if Satan can marvel as an angel of light, if he can transform into an angel of light, right?

01:05:48.580 Then it makes you wonder, what can dead Nephilim do?

01:05:53.940 Well, they were they were half human.

01:05:57.020 So, you know, perhaps they can pass off as dead loved ones.

01:06:01.840 Makes sense.

01:06:03.160 Doesn't mean that ghosts are automatically demons every single time you bump into one.

01:06:06.580 That's why it's important to have someone with authority, which is any Christian, any spirit filled believer can test the spirit to see whether it's from God.

01:06:14.420 That's first John four, one through three.

01:06:16.380 But it's important to do that.

01:06:19.120 But yeah, what you're describing there and and it's happening right when COVID hit.

01:06:24.060 Yeah, I had something similar in 2018 and my wife had asked her projected not that I knew she could do that yet.

01:06:30.900 I just met her.

01:06:32.120 But I woke up with with the bed shaking and feeling like something was following me around.

01:06:37.040 And I also woke up with the thought in my head that my wife was next to me because she used to stay the night with me.

01:06:41.800 And then we would kind of fool around and then go to bed.

01:06:44.600 So I swore I woke up like I was waking up like, oh, no, she's next to me.

01:06:49.140 She's next to me.

01:06:50.400 No, she wasn't.

01:06:51.780 She had a dream.

01:06:52.540 She was next to me and she was shaking me, which in turn shook the bed.

01:06:56.620 And then this thing, she could see it.

01:06:59.800 I can't see it because once again, I don't see the stuff.

01:07:02.080 It was floating out of the closet.

01:07:03.680 I'm actually in right now and floating towards me.

01:07:05.600 This black mass, tall, big headed figure was just floating towards me.

01:07:09.880 And she was shaking me while on top of me violently because it was ignoring her and going to me.

01:07:17.240 So I woke up feeling I was in a pitch dark room and I was scared.

01:07:21.940 All I felt was fear.

01:07:23.360 And that's what demons do.

01:07:24.580 They give off fear.

01:07:25.740 In fact, the thing that was bothering you, the first thing it did was scare you and then keep you from sleeping.

01:07:32.320 That's all the signs of these low vibrations that once again, you know, the pagan community snatched.

01:07:41.360 But it's low vibrations.

01:07:43.180 Demons feed off of low vibrations.

01:07:45.000 Depression.

01:07:45.540 It felt like it was feeding off me.

01:07:47.520 Like it fed off me until it developed enough strength to do what I think was actually sort of a diminishment or not a diminishment.

01:07:56.800 But it was it gained enough strength to show itself and then that backfired on it because as soon as it showed itself and I knew that it was real, it immediately screwed the whole thing up for it.

01:08:07.280 Because after that, I was like, if this is real, yes, if this is real, then then God is real.

01:08:13.020 And and Jesus Christ is, you know, he needs to save me.

01:08:17.920 OK, and that right there is exactly why demons don't like showing themselves.

01:08:21.660 Because they know that they they give themselves away, they give away the entire plot to the to the story.

01:08:29.700 Yeah.

01:08:30.260 And so they do their damnedest not to show themselves in front of intellectuals, especially if you are a critical thinker, a demon will do everything it can to poke at you from the shadows and not reveal its ugly face.

01:08:42.940 That is so interesting to top.

01:08:45.020 I want to if you remember this.

01:08:47.280 So Izzy was just saying that, like, what can Nephilim do?

01:08:50.220 Right.

01:08:50.380 Because they were half human.

01:08:51.400 Do you remember that story?

01:08:52.880 And after this, Izzy, I'd love to get into sort of like I don't know how much you can for us, but to discuss the variation in some of these entities from one thing to another and what the what the difference is.

01:09:07.120 But top, I don't know if you remember that story on Tony Merkel's show.

01:09:11.220 It dragged me down the hallway.

01:09:12.760 Now, guys, I would highly recommend this is actually a very disturbing episode going and finding this episode of the confessionals with Tony Merkel.

01:09:21.380 It dragged me down the hallway.

01:09:22.860 And basically, this woman whose grandmother had passed away was having an experience where she was seeing her pretty regularly, I want to say.

01:09:33.660 And what this ends up in is this scenario where one day she is underneath her dresser, oddly enough, and she gets out of bed and approaches the dresser.

01:09:46.680 And it reminds me of of the film it where Georgie reaches his hand into the sewers and the clown grabs his hand.

01:09:55.520 Well, she noted that as she's talking to her grandmother, who's beneath the dresser, who several times in previous appearances has convinced her that she is her grandmother, all of a sudden starts to display this like freakishly wide smile, which is interesting, right?

01:10:16.240 Because the Nephilim were said to have had like very wide.

01:10:19.220 If you look at like Attack on Titan, even they kind of play off this where like they have these freakishly wide smiles.

01:10:24.380 Two sets of teeth.

01:10:26.060 Yeah.

01:10:26.500 Two sets of teeth.

01:10:27.760 And I think what ends up happening is she does touch her grandmother's hand and it is just not right.

01:10:35.820 There's something longer and creepier about it.

01:10:38.300 And then, unfortunately, this woman ends up getting dragged down the hallway in a perpetual loop as one tends to sometimes get caught in a loop of a dream where you think you're awake and you're not.

01:10:49.500 And then you think you finally woke up and you haven't.

01:10:51.620 I've been there a couple of times.

01:10:52.680 It's not a lot, but maybe like two or three times where I'm like, I'm out, finally.

01:10:56.640 And then I'm not out.

01:10:57.680 And it sucks when it happens, too.

01:11:00.260 That goes to Stephen King, too.

01:11:02.140 Like Stephen King knows all this stuff.

01:11:03.700 He would probably be a fan of this show because in the book, when they do defeat Pennywise, like lights come out of him.

01:11:11.460 And at one point they ask in a different book, these three orbs, they ask what it is.

01:11:15.340 And it says we are legion.

01:11:16.340 And so he's familiar with the lore of demon, the light orb inhabiting something that's not quite it.

01:11:23.980 And it's like it's almost too right on the nose.

01:11:27.300 Like the guy has to know about this stuff.

01:11:29.880 Yeah, you know, actually, that's that's the only difference, I believe.

01:11:34.480 I believe that demons have no light in them whatsoever, which is why they give off that feeling of death, fear, destruction, because that is what they are.

01:11:44.300 And then angels, they had a light when they were created.

01:11:48.520 Why would the light go away and then develop horns and a tail?

01:11:51.400 They're not a Disney villain, for God's sakes.

01:11:53.240 So, I mean, it just.

01:11:56.060 Well, how would you.

01:11:56.940 I call it.

01:11:57.380 How would you account for.

01:11:58.360 In Hollywood, it's propaganda.

01:12:00.260 How would you account for like the UFO phenomena where they'll say they'll see they see orbs like throughout a field, these kind of like glowing light balls or something like that?

01:12:10.840 Okay, so orbs is orbs are also in the ghost hunting field, too.

01:12:17.860 And sometimes they're just dust particles.

01:12:20.440 That happens, too.

01:12:21.300 But when you actually get an orb, it makes up a ghost, they say.

01:12:29.360 And that's possible.

01:12:30.660 Okay, you could you could have just a ghost that's just kind of wondering.

01:12:33.780 It's possible.

01:12:35.060 Probably not probable, but possible.

01:12:36.620 But when it comes to the demonic, there's just nothing good that feels that you can feel from a demon.

01:12:44.220 And if if you had a battle with some other group of people and you and you really wanted to make sure that you got in there and infiltrated, you would probably bring a parent if you could.

01:12:58.040 If you felt you could be outnumbered, maybe you'd bring a parent or a handful of your friends plus a parent and an elder.

01:13:04.320 Right.

01:13:05.440 Okay.

01:13:06.100 So you think about if fallen angels, but select handful of fallen angels are the fathers of these these black masses, these parasites, then what better than to bring in this thing of light?

01:13:24.760 That causes everyone to look at it.

01:13:27.320 And then the darkness creeps in from the other side.

01:13:31.200 There was a woman that was making love to something that she said was full of light and it felt good.

01:13:35.960 And then one day and I wish I could tell you guys her name because it was just a random story I heard.

01:13:42.600 But she didn't see it.

01:13:45.480 She felt it.

01:13:46.820 It changed.

01:13:47.720 Something in the room changed and she believed that something else entered the room and then proceeded to grape her.

01:13:56.840 And it was horrifying.

01:13:58.580 It wasn't consensual at all.

01:14:00.100 It was like the exact opposite.

01:14:02.400 Literally the exact opposite.

01:14:05.360 That's really interesting because two different feelings completely.

01:14:09.020 All of these abduction experiencers, I've had experiences of sleep paralysis where it was accompanied by the presence of a shadow and also the presence of like an inexplicably bright white light and so bright that it didn't make sense.

01:14:24.720 And my grandmother, who was an abductee victim since childhood, would often describe an appearance of a bright white light in her window.

01:14:34.820 And then when she would finally be able to call for help, the light would go away before anybody, you know, when her mother came into the room to say, what are you yelling about?

01:14:42.680 And also she had the like stereotypical black shadow entities in her room.

01:14:51.940 And this is something that's like integral to the abduction experience, which my thoughts on the abduction experience, especially over the past few years, is that these things are intrinsically tied to this spiritual warfare that we're engaged in.

01:15:07.100 They're intrinsically tied into the fallen, into the Nephilim, whether or not grays are X, Y, and Z.

01:15:15.720 These things are all a product of and associated with one another.

01:15:19.400 And so I never thought about that bright white light being, because I remember with me, it came out of a place where like I knew that I know there was no light.

01:15:30.300 You know what I mean?

01:15:30.740 Like there was no light fixture in this closet where it was coming from.

01:15:33.840 And it was so bright that it didn't even make sense.

01:15:37.100 I had a dream recently.

01:15:39.640 This actually came up because twice for the first time in my life, but twice in the past month and a half, I've like rebuked something in my dreams.

01:15:48.960 Which doesn't typically happen.

01:15:50.520 It's like sometimes I'll need to gain a certain amount of sentience or not sentience, but like wherewithal.

01:15:59.000 I'll need to realize that I'm in a dream to a degree for me to be able to like pray to Christ to, you know, free me of a paralysis or whatever.

01:16:09.280 I'm in the presence of some like light being and I end up praying.

01:16:15.400 And the reason I say that I wasn't aware is because you know how like when you retell a dream, it's like you're an observer.

01:16:25.780 Not much of a participant, but it's like, yeah, then I did this and then I did that.

01:16:29.620 And it's like I didn't actively do that.

01:16:31.000 These are just the things that happened in the dream.

01:16:33.080 I was like observing it.

01:16:34.780 This is very much like that.

01:16:36.060 I didn't actively start calling on the name of Christ.

01:16:38.420 I just watched myself start calling on the name of Christ and I got free of the paralysis in the dream.

01:16:44.300 And then I mocked this thing to its face relentlessly until it went away.

01:16:48.040 But it was like a dude made of light.

01:16:50.480 And so, you know, but these, this, you know, appearance of a bright white light in some form associated with paralysis, associated with, you know, alien abductions is very common.

01:17:05.420 And I never stopped to think about like, oh, are they bringing, because it's kind of a squad, right?

01:17:10.740 It's like, well, you'll have the greys, you'll have the tall skinny greys, you'll often have the insectoids, you'll have, like you said earlier, these, these nords.

01:17:18.120 You also might have a whole ass dude made of light, I guess.

01:17:23.020 Yeah.

01:17:24.700 Interesting.

01:17:25.360 Well, well, look in the book of Job.

01:17:27.640 Job actually has sleep paralysis in, in the story.

01:17:32.040 You guys aware of this?

01:17:33.140 I'm not familiar with the book of Job.

01:17:35.640 I, I'm, I'm very bad when it comes to my, my biblical knowledge.

01:17:39.760 I just, I, I suck at reading.

01:17:42.200 But so please tell me whatever you can.

01:17:44.120 Okay.

01:17:44.580 Hold on.

01:17:45.020 Hold on.

01:17:45.540 Uh, it's Job chapter four.

01:17:48.880 Can you guys see me okay?

01:17:50.860 Yes.

01:17:51.240 Yes.

01:17:51.920 All right.

01:17:52.220 Cool.

01:17:52.440 Cool.

01:17:53.240 Cause I can't see you right now.

01:17:54.700 Um, let me see.

01:17:55.980 Uh, I gotta get far enough to, yeah.

01:18:01.840 So, okay, here we go.

01:18:08.460 A word was secretly brought to me.

01:18:10.120 My ears caught a whisper of it amid disquieting dreams in the night when deep sleep falls on

01:18:15.400 people.

01:18:15.760 We call that REM sleep.

01:18:17.720 Fear and trembling seized me and made all of my bones shake.

01:18:22.060 A spirit glided past my face and the hair on my body stood on end.

01:18:28.900 It stopped, but I could not tell what it was.

01:18:31.840 A form stood before my eyes and I heard a hushed voice.

01:18:35.740 Can a mortal be more righteous than God?

01:18:38.920 Can even a strong man be more pure than his maker?

01:18:41.900 He goes, this, this thing goes on to appreciate Job for being such a good human.

01:18:48.580 It's an angel and not even a fallen one.

01:18:51.220 It's just an angel giving him sleep paralysis.

01:18:54.200 Dude, that's crazy.

01:18:55.260 Cause he's talking about his boat, like the vibration that's associated with this.

01:18:59.500 These are things that I've experienced myself is the vibration, like this trembling.

01:19:03.680 Number one, the, the, the trembling and the vibration is accompanied with a fear that is,

01:19:10.680 doesn't even make sense functionally.

01:19:12.400 It's a fear that does paralyze you, or at least is accompanied with the paralysis, but

01:19:17.860 like nothing I've ever experienced in my waking life has ever made me feel that sense of mortal

01:19:23.560 dread.

01:19:24.480 And then of course, yeah, this vibrating of your bones.

01:19:27.800 And for, for anyone curious, for any viewer curious and you guys as well, that's Job chapter

01:19:33.200 four.

01:19:33.740 That is biblical.

01:19:34.440 What I just read.

01:19:35.560 I didn't change anything.

01:19:37.000 I was reading it in the NIV, but like, maybe that's why the angels, that's why the angels

01:19:42.520 always say fear, not, not just cause they look like a bunch of eyes on a circle that's

01:19:46.660 rotating or like a bunch of wings, you know, maybe, yeah, they, they, in order to reach

01:19:52.980 us, do they have to put you in a paralysis state like that?

01:19:56.740 Maybe it's actually a by-product of them entering the, cause you ever hear people that talk

01:20:01.320 about like dimensionally, it's like, well, you're taking a four dimensional or higher

01:20:04.420 being and you're putting it into a three dimensional realm.

01:20:08.400 Remember we spoke to somebody that said it would be like putting your finger into, um,

01:20:14.140 like through a substrate and then having it pop up.

01:20:16.420 Like if we were to show up in super Mario's world where it's two dimensional, well, I guess

01:20:20.700 if you're old like us, but back in the day when it was two dimensional, it would all of

01:20:24.820 a sudden just look like, like a point appeared or something like that.

01:20:28.720 Or like a finger just appeared, you not see it coming.

01:20:31.000 It would just suddenly manifest.

01:20:32.720 Well, that's what you would see, but who the hell knows what you would feel if something

01:20:37.220 suddenly just permeated the fabric of our reality, right?

01:20:40.600 Would it come with, uh, you know, those, those globes that have electricity in them.

01:20:46.060 And if you touch them, all the electricity goes to your hand.

01:20:48.420 Well, it's like just putting your hand on that.

01:20:50.460 If something lived in that, you would totally disrupt the natural thing that's happening all

01:20:54.520 the time.

01:20:54.960 So maybe by just appearing here, there's a noise that's associated with that.

01:21:00.880 It's like the tearing of our fabric, you know?

01:21:02.920 And maybe there's like a vibration that just permeates everything, including our own bones

01:21:08.600 and cellular structure.

01:21:10.020 And then maybe that feels a lot like death.

01:21:12.540 Yeah.

01:21:13.640 Yeah.

01:21:13.900 I mean, you're talking about the flesh here, the flesh, you know, it's selfish.

01:21:17.160 It's, it's not completely broken, but it's fractured.

01:21:19.480 It's why I rebuke total depravity, by the way, you have to work your way to total depravity.

01:21:25.220 You don't, you aren't just born a God hater, but, um, I don't want to get into that too

01:21:29.480 much.

01:21:30.620 Um, I, I really don't like Western theology for the most part.

01:21:34.080 Um, but when it comes to the flesh, it can't comprehend the spirit.

01:21:40.420 It's selfish in its own way.

01:21:42.140 It wants what it wants.

01:21:43.600 It's why we're always tempted to sin and tempt and test are actually two sides of the same

01:21:48.580 coin.

01:21:49.300 So you got the God testing you with every temptation and then the devil tempting you

01:21:53.560 with every test.

01:21:54.420 So like, you know, it's the whole thing, but when it comes to the flesh, trying to, trying

01:21:59.220 to discern something, the flesh is going to suck at it.

01:22:02.460 So it's just fight or flight.

01:22:04.360 There's all your body's experiencing.

01:22:06.440 Job here.

01:22:07.000 I don't even know if he was asleep.

01:22:08.480 Maybe, maybe the sleep paralysis came up on him while he was asleep.

01:22:12.480 Um, maybe he was like about to fall asleep and then it hit him because I mean, people talk

01:22:17.180 about that happening too.

01:22:18.640 They get ready to go to sleep.

01:22:20.080 Their body isn't moving anymore.

01:22:21.640 And suddenly, Oh God, I'm scared and I can't move.

01:22:24.420 And that's kind of the way that some people talk about it happening in the day too.

01:22:28.260 Like I've heard the occasional rarity, but like the reason I believe these people is

01:22:32.000 because like we just described, sleep paralysis has like a set of attributes that are pretty

01:22:36.020 common as a pattern from one through the other.

01:22:38.540 And so people will describe it.

01:22:40.380 It's like, yeah, I was just kind of hanging out in the middle of the day and all of a

01:22:43.840 sudden, yeah, a creeping feel of fear snuck up on me and a vibration or an electric humming.

01:22:50.340 And then boom, next thing you know, you're fully paralyzed.

01:22:53.580 Yeah.

01:22:54.360 Um, you guys, are you guys familiar with the silver cord with, um, astral projection?

01:23:00.580 Well, you know, um, there is something in Ecclesiastes that talks about a silver cord.

01:23:06.640 Are you guys aware of it?

01:23:08.300 No.

01:23:09.200 Oh, it's so cool.

01:23:10.620 Hold on.

01:23:11.940 That's interesting because I have watched, uh, my favorite Disney movie growing up now,

01:23:16.560 which now I rebuke both Disney and this movie, but my favorite movie growing up was, uh, was

01:23:22.520 Hercules.

01:23:23.160 I loved the Disney movie Hercules.

01:23:25.500 In fact, it's, um, I, I kind of like named my, one of my first podcast, uh, where I belong

01:23:31.440 in homage, man, this is incredibly gay.

01:23:33.900 In homage, dude, it's so gay, dude.

01:23:37.940 I thought that that was a cool, I was like, that's a cool name.

01:23:40.420 And now I'm thinking, oh, cause of the song.

01:23:42.380 Oh, you know, the song, dude, that song slapped.

01:23:45.140 All right.

01:23:45.380 You suck, David.

01:23:46.440 I can't believe you.

01:23:48.860 Now I have to, I rebuke my first, my, what was my second?

01:23:51.700 I rebuke my second podcast.

01:23:53.280 I rebuke Disney.

01:23:54.140 Uh, I rebuke Hercules because I don't know that Hercules was a good Nephilim.

01:23:58.780 I do believe that some Nephilim were good, but I don't know if Hercules was one of them.

01:24:02.960 So until the jury's in on that.

01:24:05.300 It's documented that Hercules would accidentally step on people and feel bad about it.

01:24:09.800 So.

01:24:10.360 All right.

01:24:10.980 Well, Hey, sometimes I don't kill bugs.

01:24:13.360 And when I do kill bugs, I'm like, damn it, dude.

01:24:15.280 Except for like mosquitoes.

01:24:16.600 I don't give a shit about mosquitoes, but I do feel bad.

01:24:18.380 If I kill a spider, I'm like, damn, bro.

01:24:19.920 I didn't know you were there.

01:24:21.540 Right.

01:24:22.540 But, um, you know, you also have the clash of the Titans that, um, that Greek mythology

01:24:27.200 talks about, but in the book of Enoch, God says, I'll turn them against each other.

01:24:31.320 And it's like, whoa, that's an overlap.

01:24:33.560 And that's all, that's all demonology is.

01:24:35.940 90% of it I say is comparative mythology.

01:24:38.660 Anybody can do that.

01:24:39.820 They would be a demonologist.

01:24:40.840 If they did that, you look at one mythos, you compare it to the Bible.

01:24:44.220 If you want to be a Christian demonologist, anyway, you compare two mythos, see how they

01:24:48.200 compare.

01:24:48.700 Then you compare it with the Bible.

01:24:49.920 You know, and then you just kind of keep doing that until you're, until, you know, um, sticks

01:24:54.340 in your head.

01:24:54.920 Well, that's kind of what this show is about.

01:24:56.600 Like I was going to say, we're like retarded demonologists.

01:25:00.060 Yeah.

01:25:00.660 Gary Wayne's entire book over there.

01:25:02.240 He was on the show also, but that's, that's exactly what it is.

01:25:05.000 I just wouldn't have thought to call myself a demon, demonologist or aspiring one, but

01:25:09.580 I suppose we're on that route.

01:25:11.240 Well, you know, the, the body of Christ is made up of every single part, including the

01:25:15.100 nether regions.

01:25:15.660 And I believe, cause it talks about, um, Paul, Paul briefly talks about, you know, if you're

01:25:21.520 an eye, don't say to the hand, I have no need of you.

01:25:25.160 But I, I believe the demonologists are essentially the loins of the body.

01:25:29.400 They can't just be open.

01:25:31.840 You know, the body needs pants.

01:25:35.700 So whether it, whether we're, you know, the cheeks, whether we're the loins, whatever the

01:25:40.000 case may be, we are a covered part of the body, um, that, uh, is meant to stay decent.

01:25:46.160 I think you're a, I think that you're a more important part of the body than you think,

01:25:50.860 especially in these times.

01:25:52.120 That's okay.

01:25:52.900 Actually, now I, now I have to bring this up.

01:25:55.060 Hold on.

01:25:55.380 Um, also now we've just totally let the chat know that I'm gay and retarded and it's just,

01:26:02.580 it's over for me.

01:26:03.580 It's over for me.

01:26:04.900 That's the best song, by the way, of any Disney movie was where I belong.

01:26:08.580 There should have been more stanzas.

01:26:10.080 There should have been more verses.

01:26:11.340 It's just to name your podcast after one like that.

01:26:15.020 It's just, it wasn't like named after it, but it was like, that was my favorite movie

01:26:19.560 coming up because I've always had this feeling of like, it's what drove me to, to do a show

01:26:24.840 in the first place is like, I feel like I meant to do something was never able to shake

01:26:28.600 that.

01:26:28.980 And Hercules has that.

01:26:30.480 It's why I also like Moana, right?

01:26:32.200 Because Moana is being called to something, dude, but she doesn't know what she's being

01:26:35.840 called to.

01:26:36.700 The metaphorical shovel that you're digging in this hole, it's inescapable.

01:26:41.040 I love Moana.

01:26:41.800 I hate Moana.

01:26:42.520 Moana is great.

01:26:42.800 Also Nephilim shit.

01:26:43.800 I get PTSD when I hear that ding and the stupid DVD intro to that stupid movie.

01:26:51.160 My son watched it and I wanted to snap the DVD in half.

01:26:54.120 Fun fact about Moana though.

01:26:56.760 I find it really interesting that Maui gets struck right in the forehead with a stone

01:27:01.300 and that knocks him over.

01:27:03.080 Oh yeah.

01:27:03.820 Immediately.

01:27:04.340 I was like, Hey, that's kind of like David with the sling.

01:27:08.000 It's a Nephilim.

01:27:08.500 He is a Nephilim.

01:27:09.640 He is a Nephilim.

01:27:10.640 He's a demigod.

01:27:11.540 Right?

01:27:11.800 So guys, check this out.

01:27:13.720 This is first Corinthians chapter 12 because you had mentioned that demonologists are more

01:27:18.840 important now than ever.

01:27:19.780 And so where Paul says, if, if all were all one member, where would the body be?

01:27:27.540 Right?

01:27:28.740 And then I already said the part where, you know, if you say, if the head says to the

01:27:32.420 feet, I have no need of you.

01:27:33.520 Right?

01:27:33.840 But then it says, no, much rather those members of the body, which seem to be weaker are necessary

01:27:39.920 and those members of the body, which we think to be less honorable on these, we bestow the

01:27:46.060 greater honor and our unpresentable body parts have greater modesty, but our presentable parts

01:27:52.820 have no need.

01:27:53.720 But God composed the body, having given greater honor to that which lacks it.

01:27:58.720 And there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care

01:28:02.160 for one another.

01:28:05.480 I immediately think, okay, demonology, but you got to be covered.

01:28:10.880 You can't just go spouting it anywhere and everywhere.

01:28:14.300 Right?

01:28:15.400 This is clear, concise.

01:28:17.260 It's, it's in a concentrated space.

01:28:19.500 If a street preacher did what we did, he'd probably get his ass kicked, honestly.

01:28:22.900 Yep.

01:28:23.980 Demonology is the big dick of the body and you got to know when to whip it out.

01:28:27.900 All right.

01:28:28.340 That was inappropriate.

01:28:29.540 I'm sorry.

01:28:30.060 I can't help myself.

01:28:32.120 I was going to say, this show is very much like the balls or something.

01:28:35.760 We're like, we're just constantly showing ourselves and God's like, you're important,

01:28:40.120 but please stop just whipping yourself out.

01:28:44.980 Hey, hey, it's one of those things where, cause, cause believe me, um, despite, you know,

01:28:50.640 the occasional ass and whatever small little PG-13 curse words I've said on this podcast,

01:28:56.860 um, God has really pulled me in to be much more careful with my tongue.

01:29:01.920 And I think that's a fantastic example of, okay, greater modesty.

01:29:07.800 What does it mean to cover up?

01:29:09.380 It means to present it in such a way at the right time and, you know, not whip it out,

01:29:17.900 throw it around.

01:29:19.280 Present the balls at the right time.

01:29:21.320 You know, I, I feel like I have that calling all the time where I feel like God looks at

01:29:27.800 me and he's like, dude, awesome, doing great crushing.

01:29:32.220 And then I'll just say something on the internet.

01:29:35.480 And God's like, Whoa, what are you doing?

01:29:39.800 You can feel it sometimes.

01:29:41.760 You can feel it sometimes.

01:29:43.400 Yeah.

01:29:43.920 Sometimes, sometimes.

01:29:45.160 Yes.

01:29:45.940 Sometimes I say, God, this is how you made, like whatever's going on in my brain.

01:29:51.500 Like you, you allowed the structure of my brain to be formatted this way.

01:29:55.820 All the little wrinkles in it.

01:29:56.800 It's like, yo, dude, this is.

01:29:59.480 I feel like that's what God's like.

01:30:01.180 I made you retarded as a test.

01:30:04.040 You weren't supposed to love the fact that I made you retarded.

01:30:07.380 You were supposed to overcome the fact that I made you retarded.

01:30:11.500 Well, you know, something like it's my favorite part.

01:30:14.240 And if we, if I may, we can talk very briefly about deliverance ministry and how they always

01:30:19.780 believe that like, you see them always casting these demons out of people over and over again.

01:30:24.040 And it's always Christians.

01:30:25.060 They're casting them out of.

01:30:27.200 And I always found that fascinating.

01:30:30.040 Like, are they just never free?

01:30:33.120 There are people who are addicted to this feeling of being delivered over and over again.

01:30:38.240 Oh, that's interesting.

01:30:39.080 Yeah.

01:30:39.680 And so it's just one of those weird.

01:30:41.920 I also don't believe in filming exorcisms.

01:30:44.560 Not unless I have the person's consent, in which case y'all film it kind of hard to ask

01:30:49.300 consent, consent, when the person's convulsing on the floor and speaking, you know, backwards

01:30:52.880 tongues or something.

01:30:53.860 But, um, you know, there, there was, um, and, you know, not that I'm trying to bash

01:31:00.460 Bob Larson over and over again, but I will say, if you watch his show, his old show, where

01:31:05.560 he would sit there and take his microphone and go, what's your name, demon?

01:31:08.700 It's like, dude, you look like, it looks like the Jerry Springer show.

01:31:13.640 I'm not even kidding.

01:31:14.720 It looks like something out of Jerry's agreed.

01:31:16.480 And so, um, I don't like it.

01:31:18.880 I don't, I don't like, and, and there's many others in the deliverance ministry space who

01:31:22.980 still do that, where they will record it, um, no matter what.

01:31:27.260 And like, it's, it's not meant.

01:31:30.460 And I, I know the defense on the other side, it's like, I know the pushback anyway, where

01:31:34.880 it's like, okay, well, let me, let me contend with, uh, you know, the gospels were written

01:31:39.760 down and it's like, I can document with a pen and paper now.

01:31:43.800 Oh, it's vastly different than me filming it.

01:31:47.940 And then you can see it.

01:31:49.840 You can hear it.

01:31:51.180 Some people, they, they, they can't handle that.

01:31:54.180 And yeah, you don't know what that's going to do to people.

01:31:56.960 I mean, and it's just one of those things where I'm just really careful about it.

01:32:01.160 You know, I've only, I've only actually bumped into one demon.

01:32:03.660 It was through a Skype call with a guy.

01:32:06.560 And, uh, I don't give away his personal information, but I will say the dude was more fit than I

01:32:10.800 ever could be.

01:32:11.620 He was in military.

01:32:12.900 He owned a gym or no, he was like second, second to a gym with a, with a business partner.

01:32:18.260 And he had these dark circles under his eyes and he was exhausted.

01:32:22.620 And I was like, dude, what, what was going on?

01:32:24.620 And he said, since I was a kid, I, um, had, uh, this thing in my head that would always

01:32:30.960 be talking to me and predicting things.

01:32:33.180 And it just never shut up.

01:32:34.780 And I was like, do you have OCD?

01:32:36.700 He goes, I have definitely, I definitely have OCD.

01:32:39.440 Well, when I started asking him about some of these things, he went on to say that this,

01:32:43.280 um, the, the voice in his head that he believed were his own thoughts.

01:32:47.540 Um, he went and said, uh, it would predict deaths of people and then it would come to

01:32:56.820 pass.

01:32:57.280 And I, and I told him very quickly, I was like, okay, uh, thoughts don't do that.

01:33:02.940 Um, and so it, it was almost like a broken magic eight ball.

01:33:06.760 You know, it was just like, he's like, I just thought I was super smart.

01:33:10.360 Right.

01:33:11.420 Have you ever seen this guy?

01:33:13.620 Um, go ahead.

01:33:15.040 No, no.

01:33:15.680 Dr. Jerry Marzinski.

01:33:18.680 No.

01:33:19.260 Yeah.

01:33:19.880 An amazing journey into the psychotic mind.

01:33:22.040 So that's what, what you just described is what he's been studying his whole life where

01:33:27.220 he's talking about schizophrenia.

01:33:28.800 Oh, you're going to love what I have to say about this then, because I, I had the, I had,

01:33:33.620 um, oh, if you had something to add to that, I apologize if I cut you off.

01:33:37.500 Go ahead.

01:33:37.780 Finish.

01:33:38.760 Okay.

01:33:39.220 Okay, cool.

01:33:39.760 I appreciate it.

01:33:40.760 Um, okay.

01:33:41.520 So, so excited about this.

01:33:43.940 It was the first time I had ever casted out a demon and it only happened like less than

01:33:49.080 a year ago.

01:33:50.620 Not every demonologist gets the chance to actually apply what they know to the field.

01:33:54.980 Dr.

01:33:55.260 Michael Heiser is a fantastic, uh, you know, he died last year, but, um, I don't, I'm not

01:34:00.760 saying like he never casted out a demon.

01:34:02.740 Um, it's possible he did, I don't know, but what I do know is he definitely didn't lead

01:34:07.380 with that.

01:34:08.800 Um, and so I was looking up the, it was apostle Paul and the slave woman who was following

01:34:16.860 him around.

01:34:17.480 And I think it was Barnabas too, following him around and saying, uh, he who comes in

01:34:21.840 the name of the Lord, he who comes in the name of the Lord, he's here to spread the gospel

01:34:24.720 of Jesus Christ.

01:34:25.320 He finally turns around like two or three days in and says, in the name of Jesus Christ,

01:34:28.720 I rebuked, uh, you know, I, I cast out of you and it left her.

01:34:32.040 And he got in trouble for that because, uh, she, the, the, the spirit would predict things

01:34:37.460 and that she, she would help her owners win, uh, gambles.

01:34:42.820 And they said, you just, you just costed us money.

01:34:45.960 Well, um, the spirit, when you look up, um, in the book, cause it's in the book of Acts

01:34:51.680 when it happens, um, the spirit's name is Python.

01:34:58.320 Interesting.

01:34:59.200 Well, it gets weirder because Python was in Greek mythology.

01:35:04.880 You have these oracles and these oracles had to be pure.

01:35:08.760 They had to be virgins.

01:35:10.000 They couldn't be defiled in any way, shape or form.

01:35:12.160 They had to be celibate.

01:35:13.260 And then they would allow, I don't know if it was Apollos.

01:35:17.860 If it wasn't Apollos, it was one of the Greek gods, uh, that, that conquered a, a snake

01:35:23.520 by the name of Python.

01:35:25.140 And yeah, no, no, it doesn't matter.

01:35:28.060 That's interesting.

01:35:28.700 You actually see that in the beginning of the film, uh, 300, where he has to go to

01:35:33.520 Leonidas has to go to the oracles to get a, uh, basically blessing from this elder council

01:35:40.080 on whether or not he should go to war.

01:35:42.220 And the way that they determine it is by listening to the oracle and the oracle is this young

01:35:47.520 girl who they describe as a virgin who, you know, is, uh, I guess under the influence of

01:35:53.240 some sort of drug and that allows her to channel these things and get information like that.

01:35:57.500 So this was like a coveted position within, yeah.

01:36:00.140 Greek structure.

01:36:01.460 Right.

01:36:02.040 This is actually interesting.

01:36:03.200 Uh, the computer programming language as well.

01:36:05.120 Python.

01:36:06.020 Oh, that's interesting.

01:36:07.960 Oh, I hate it when that happens.

01:36:10.840 Freaking just nothing is original.

01:36:13.760 There's nothing new under the sun as Ecclesiastes says, but I'm sitting there and I'm looking

01:36:18.400 at Python, right?

01:36:19.580 And not the, not the coding language, but I'm looking at the spirit, you know, in this

01:36:23.900 story.

01:36:24.240 And I think to myself, okay, if this demon is a Python spirit, it is very old.

01:36:33.080 And I turned to him and I said, Hey, humor me.

01:36:35.160 This is going to be a little weird.

01:36:36.360 I said, I'm going to see if it'll manifest.

01:36:39.300 Okay.

01:36:39.760 So I'm not talking to you.

01:36:41.200 And then he said, okay, go ahead.

01:36:43.480 And then I said, um, Python, I'm speaking to you now in Jesus Christ's name, uh, Jesus

01:36:50.480 of Nazareth, come forward.

01:36:52.200 Now I'm talking to you now speak.

01:36:54.500 And then he leans into the camera and goes, no.

01:36:57.640 And he's like breathing heavy.

01:36:59.400 And then he walks away, comes back and he starts going WTF.

01:37:02.960 I'm trying not to say the F word, but he's, he's like just swearing.

01:37:06.200 What the F, what the F, what the, and he's crying.

01:37:10.440 And I said, I'm going to assume that's never happened to you before.

01:37:13.680 And he said, never.

01:37:14.840 He said the thought in my head came to life and spoke through my mouth.

01:37:17.720 And so then I told him, I said, okay, well, you're, you're at work right now.

01:37:24.900 And I know it's, it's all, you know, you're about to close up, but, uh, let's, let's not

01:37:28.480 do this now because I can't guarantee it'll be out in five minutes or less.

01:37:31.680 And so I, I said, uh, don't let it freak you about too much, but now we know it's there.

01:37:35.680 So we'll come back the next week.

01:37:37.600 And then, um, you know, when you're alone and then I can, uh, we'll go and do this.

01:37:41.820 And it, it spoke to him directly for the first time.

01:37:48.360 And he told me what it said.

01:37:50.780 It said to him, I don't like him.

01:37:53.000 I don't care where you go or what you do.

01:37:55.500 Don't speak to him again.

01:37:56.640 And then later it started, it was like stages of grief.

01:38:00.720 Then it started bargaining with him.

01:38:02.240 I'll do anything you want.

01:38:03.820 I'll stay quiet.

01:38:05.000 Just don't talk to him again.

01:38:06.260 And so it went, went from like threatening demeanor down to, um, giving him nightmares, dreams,

01:38:11.860 draining him of his sleep.

01:38:13.120 It was doing everything it could.

01:38:15.720 And, you know, we ended up getting, I'm trying to bargain with him.

01:38:19.900 It was, yeah, it was bargaining with him for sure.

01:38:22.920 Yeah.

01:38:23.740 Interesting.

01:38:24.400 So nuts.

01:38:25.200 You might actually, uh, I would definitely recommend reaching out to Dr.

01:38:29.420 Uh, Jerry Marzinski.

01:38:30.680 You'd, you'd find him fascinating, but, uh, like top said, 30, 30 plus years, uh, dealing

01:38:36.060 with schizophrenia.

01:38:36.680 He comes out the other end saying that this is demonic influence and that kind of fits

01:38:41.880 a pattern.

01:38:42.660 One thing that you just described there where it did not want him talking to you.

01:38:47.340 This is something that Dr.

01:38:49.220 Jerry Marzinski said was a common theme amongst these schizophrenic patients was,

01:38:55.200 is that these voices, they would tell the, the, the victims that, uh, I don't want you

01:39:00.920 talking to him.

01:39:01.960 And oftentimes things will get significantly worse for people with schizophrenia if they

01:39:08.300 start to talk about it.

01:39:10.160 So these things don't want to be talked about.

01:39:13.240 Right.

01:39:13.800 One of the things he said that I remember that's real interesting is, uh, as he's, so he's in

01:39:18.520 a jail cell and he's dealing with the schizophrenic patients, but he's dealing with them in a different

01:39:24.160 way.

01:39:25.420 Um, because, so he used to work in like a hospital and they were like, you can't do that.

01:39:30.440 You can't address these voices as if they're not hallucinations because the patients are getting

01:39:35.080 disruptive.

01:39:36.500 And I'm sure that things were getting crazy if you're doing that with every patient in

01:39:39.640 that hospital, but in the jail, nobody cared because it's a jail, you know, they're like,

01:39:44.100 fuck these people.

01:39:45.160 Um, and at one point, I guess he's caused such a disruption in the general population there

01:39:50.700 that has schizophrenia asking about their, their entities that are talking to them, that

01:39:56.500 one of them comes to him and says, you have no right to interfere with our way of life.

01:40:03.180 It's like, you have no right to interfere with our way of life.

01:40:08.440 There's rules.

01:40:09.920 There's rules to that.

01:40:11.180 Yeah.

01:40:11.620 And then he has another encounter with a guy sits at his desk and he tells him, um, he said,

01:40:17.720 I want you to, uh, read this part of this, this article.

01:40:20.520 Um, and the article basically said, perhaps, you know, the voices in someone's head are

01:40:25.680 not hallucinations, but maybe they're entities.

01:40:27.920 And he says, and the guy kind of like goes blank, like a zombie.

01:40:31.360 He hears static that crawls along the wall behind him.

01:40:36.380 And he's like looking at it, watching it travel into his garbage can.

01:40:40.900 It jumps in there.

01:40:41.860 He looks in nothing there.

01:40:44.140 The guy gets up.

01:40:45.360 He says, I've got to go.

01:40:46.740 He says, yeah, you should go.

01:40:48.000 And he just leaves the room, um, weeks later, he sees the guy again and he says, Hey, that

01:40:54.120 was really interesting.

01:40:54.940 Like you look better.

01:40:57.200 Uh, you see, I've been taking your advice doctor, but he's like, well, what happened?

01:41:01.020 What the hell, what was that?

01:41:02.900 And he says, that was the, the voices.

01:41:05.280 He said, I heard the crackling.

01:41:06.860 And the guy was surprised that he could hear this electric crackling going throughout the

01:41:10.700 room.

01:41:11.800 Um, and he said, yeah, I did hear it.

01:41:13.120 And he says, well, entertain me.

01:41:14.260 What did they say?

01:41:14.960 And he said, the voice is said to go out, find something sharp and stick it in your guts.

01:41:22.240 And he said, Whoa, well, why didn't you do that?

01:41:24.660 And he said, because I couldn't find anything.

01:41:26.560 Wow.

01:41:26.960 And no one would give it to me.

01:41:28.640 Yeah.

01:41:30.260 See, that, that reminds me.

01:41:33.240 Okay.

01:41:33.740 Do you, do you guys know of the real Emily Rose?

01:41:36.180 I'm familiar with it.

01:41:39.460 Yeah.

01:41:39.720 Well, I'm familiar with the, what is it?

01:41:41.820 The exorcism of Emily Rose.

01:41:44.060 Yeah.

01:41:44.640 She's based on, she's based on a German woman by the name of Annalise Michelle.

01:41:48.480 You guys know who she is?

01:41:50.500 No, no.

01:41:52.740 You can find her clips online.

01:41:54.820 In fact, Hey, do you, can you guys pull up a video and go ahead and show that type in

01:41:59.340 Annalise Michelle tapes?

01:42:00.920 Just, just put it on YouTube.

01:42:03.100 I think you, I think you guys as viewers would love that.

01:42:06.300 Okay.

01:42:09.840 It's interesting too, because one of the other things you mentioned before was these things

01:42:15.140 kind of being able to predict things.

01:42:17.460 And I imagine that there's like lesser and greater entities that are interacting with

01:42:22.000 schizophrenic patients or people that are scuffering from it.

01:42:24.780 I wouldn't necessarily call them patients and maybe not even schizophrenia.

01:42:28.340 Right.

01:42:28.460 But, uh, they often have these attributes of a precognition where like, they'll do it

01:42:36.060 on a small scale and a grand scale where sometimes it'll be like, you know, one story

01:42:41.500 in particular I heard was a schizophrenic guy sitting on public transportation and the voices

01:42:45.660 kept saying the man in the yellow shirt, the man in the yellow shirt.

01:42:48.720 And then at the next stop, a man with a yellow shirt got on the bus and sat directly next

01:42:52.680 to him.

01:42:53.240 And then I guess there's other ones that are like, and by the way, the, uh, Green Bay Packers

01:42:57.380 are going to win.

01:43:00.300 It's like, why can't you guys be useful every time?

01:43:04.980 Papa needs a new pair of shoes.

01:43:08.260 Let's see what this is going on.

01:43:09.560 Let's see what this is.

01:43:10.480 Unmodern� classy.

01:43:11.900 Let's see what this is.

01:43:13.600 Yeah.

01:43:16.500 Yeah.

01:43:17.260 Oh, wow.

01:43:18.680 Oh, wow.

01:43:19.380 Oh.

01:43:22.440 Ah, no matter who?

01:43:23.960 Ah, no matter who!

01:43:25.640 Why?

01:43:28.280 Ah, why?

01:43:29.160 Ja, why?

01:43:30.200 Oh

01:44:00.200 like it's being interrogated yeah yeah and by the way the exorcism failed

01:44:18.220 the what the exorcism failed this one yeah it failed uh she um annalise um and this is in

01:44:28.300 germany by the way it's the only real reason why but um she ended up dying from malnutrition

01:44:35.480 whoa it wouldn't let her so this thing starved the host yeah and they wouldn't turn her in over

01:44:43.040 to the hospital because they thought they weren't trying to hurt her they were just trying to hurry

01:44:47.080 up and get it out of her and they couldn't and uh you know in retrospect they should have just

01:44:51.740 went and put her in the hospital and said hey we were trying to help her but uh you know she needs

01:44:55.860 to eat because they could have forced a feeding tube down her throat or whatever through the

01:44:59.300 nose or however it works but i'll tell you this too i looked up her condition do you can you guys

01:45:04.080 guess what the what the skeptic or what like the consensus is around her diagnosis oh i would

01:45:12.080 imagine schizophrenia probably paranoid schizophrenia temporal lobe epilepsy oh wow so these are just

01:45:20.920 seizures it wasn't just seizures though in fact i looked up temporal lobe epilepsy and it turns out

01:45:26.880 that there are people who experience temporal lobe epilepsy and when they wake up they feel

01:45:32.400 omnipotent like like like they're a god or like they're the god and what's even stranger is if there's

01:45:41.100 another youtuber by the name of the conscious man who had an eight gram mushroom trip where he recorded

01:45:49.060 five four or five different entities that spoke through him and it sounded like nihilism combined

01:45:57.240 with some level of love and light like like in a duality kind of sense where it was like like yin and

01:46:04.140 yang and it was the strangest thing because they also called themselves god they said we are god

01:46:11.020 now he doesn't believe that those are demons necessarily you can see christians flooding his youtube

01:46:17.500 comment section saying hey those are demons bro but it's just weird because you compare his mushroom

01:46:23.900 trip experience where he encounters demons demons speaking through him and then you look at people

01:46:29.300 with temporal lobe epilepsy they also feel like they're god and then you see annalise michelle going

01:46:35.400 through an exorcism and then she's just screaming at the top of her lungs but if you um and you don't

01:46:41.680 have to do it now but look if you look up the conscious man and his mushroom trip listen to the

01:46:46.520 way that the entity speaks through him because it does the growling and the hissing and it almost

01:46:51.460 sounds like it ha it's dying it'll let out these long breaths where it goes to struggle to say another

01:46:59.320 sentence and another sentence and another sentence and i'll tell you what a demon's theology it's it's

01:47:06.800 definitely something special i think that's it sounds to me you know this is just going off of

01:47:14.220 instinct but it probably takes an incredible amount of energy and effort to possess a human being and

01:47:20.620 that's why oftentimes these things sound almost like they're struggling or like they're dying or they're

01:47:27.100 it's there's a an incredible amount of force in their voice trying to come through because when we spoke

01:47:33.020 earlier about my experience and you said that this thing started off by scaring me and it's feeding

01:47:37.360 off this low vibrational this is very much the impression that i got was that it was feeding off

01:47:43.000 of me it took a couple of nights for it to gain the strength to be able to show itself i think

01:47:47.700 everything requires energy from them and that nothing is done easily which is why it's my opinion that

01:47:57.020 they make these these bio uh mechanical gray suits and able to inhabit this thing to interface with

01:48:04.320 this realm because it takes a lot takes a lot of energy sometimes it takes technology and before top you

01:48:10.900 go on i just wanted to also say that this thing that he's communicating with with through the mushrooms

01:48:16.080 claiming to be god or whatever the case is that's the same thing that the aliens or you know aliens want us to

01:48:23.280 believe is that they are god they created us so like there's so many parallels to me that indicate

01:48:29.280 that this is all part of the same deception same same deception same battle same war all the same thing

01:48:36.060 would you say that they're desperate oh yeah like a possession is an act of desperation then

01:48:41.680 i well and and so in first enoch it talks about how

01:48:49.420 first of all god deems them as uh evil spirits so it doesn't call them demons it calls them evil spirits

01:48:56.920 but it goes on to say that you will hunger and never and never be full you will thirst and you will thirst and

01:49:05.720 you'll never you'll never drink of water and um then you go you flip over to the bible in the book of

01:49:12.780 matthew it says when an unclean spirit leaves a person it seeks rest and finds none jesus says you'll when

01:49:19.620 you eat from my the bread of life you will never hunger again when you drink of me you'll never thirst

01:49:25.080 again i am your rest so i mean these things are literally the most godless

01:49:34.160 anti-christ things you could ever find they're everything so they're thirsty they're hungry

01:49:43.140 they're they're tired they're like this is who is is coming for us and they're in waterless places

01:49:49.720 they're in the wilderness do you think a human a human soul can degrade itself down to that to the

01:49:57.820 level of a demon no i don't know okay does it become something different though like like

01:50:04.320 alistair crowley you know might have really gave that system a run for its money someone who's in

01:50:10.820 communion such communion with these things that they may become almost like them like what happens

01:50:16.160 with these people there was a time when i really oh oh okay that what you just said um

01:50:22.280 um so i do believe that you can have people who are not necessarily demons but in their past life

01:50:32.380 as a human they're so hateful they're so nasty there's something about them that causes them to kind

01:50:40.640 of stick around in a journey of sorts and this is a mystery by the way if we're all wrong about this

01:50:45.640 it's a non-salvation topic it's whatever but there was this story of my co-worker by the name of

01:50:51.880 tammy told me about the story of this old elderly woman in a rocking chair who would just stare at you

01:50:58.320 when you were in the room and she wasn't really there not everyone could see her and she had the

01:51:03.200 most hideous nastiest look on her face and she swore that she was alive at one point but it didn't hurt

01:51:12.200 her it didn't cast any mental images in her head it was just sitting there so and that goes back to

01:51:20.480 my theory on ghosts not being able to actually do anything if it can scratch you call it a demon

01:51:26.100 if it can give you nightmares call it a demon now ghosts can enter your dreams i do believe that

01:51:31.900 for the case of my son and me i believe that there was a woman that wanted me to solve her murder

01:51:37.200 i wrote an article on it it was a very very scary thing um it very i was very perplexed by it too

01:51:45.000 because she had uh these like rose those rosy glasses from like the early 90s late 80s

01:51:51.460 and um so her mother was a very controlling woman and it was like she was hijacking my dream

01:51:59.260 and just enter she was entering herself into my dream over and over again and in the dream i felt bad

01:52:06.260 like i decided to date her um but i also thought in my mind my wife might kill me but i think she'll

01:52:14.360 understand where i'm coming from if i'm just nice to her so something told me that she i'm not going

01:52:20.300 to say she was slow but she did have brain surgery according to the like the the dream itself

01:52:26.360 but it was just the weirdest thing never saw her again either but i truly believe her mother killed

01:52:32.960 her and i think she wanted me to figure it out it was just a weird set of i i didn't mean to go on

01:52:38.840 that tangent but like as far as ghosts and dreams that they can happen i i do believe that

01:52:44.480 interesting yeah i i sometimes uh you know i think i alluded to it before in the beginning of the show

01:52:54.040 talking about whether or not time works the same in this like afterlife this maybe like a purgatory or

01:53:01.380 waiting room before everyone's judged um because people often say what are they just sitting around

01:53:07.520 waiting you know for hundreds and hundreds or thousands of years or the other one that i can't

01:53:12.720 answer is why are they always in victorian era garb although the one that you saw she said she has

01:53:18.020 80s or 90s uh glasses on or something like that so that's always nice to get one of them a teenager

01:53:24.380 and about the time i was born so she would be in her 50s by now if she were still alive

01:53:29.400 i i had a dream once i guess a premonition that my um uncle who was very influential to me was sort

01:53:38.040 of a mentor um was in a shopping mall with me uh like a supermarket and he was dressed in he was an

01:53:47.980 older guy in his like 50s or 60s early 60s but in this dream his hair was like significantly whiter

01:53:57.200 and his beard was all white where it used to be like salt and pepper and he was in a white robe

01:54:03.580 and he was walking away from me and i'm trying to get his attention and he won't turn around he won't

01:54:10.220 pay attention to me and i keep trying to get around him but the supermarket aisle is so narrow for some

01:54:15.360 reason that i can't squeeze by him to get in front of him and so he just keeps walking and walking

01:54:21.260 um and eventually i wake up and that same week i was at a supermarket and when we came back with

01:54:28.540 the groceries in our hands still uh we had a text message that said that he died there was a

01:54:32.900 complication at the doctor's office with his medication and he died there in the doctor's office

01:54:38.260 in his wife's arms and yeah it is there's just a lot of weirdness when it comes to dreams and and um

01:54:50.300 i i don't know i feel like we this is probably the fourth time we've brought it up in this show but

01:54:57.160 it's very disappointing that we've let the new age movement have all the cool things because these

01:55:03.600 things are important and they're meaningful and i mean they're important you know we should be paying

01:55:10.480 more attention to these things but yeah all of it is so tainted with this one this distaste that i have

01:55:18.040 for that movement and two this sort of fear because we don't have the the training or the or the

01:55:27.320 information and it's all sort of granted to not granted to but it's all corrupted and and inverted

01:55:33.680 by this other side of the aisle and um that's in the same way in the same way like the left

01:55:39.980 culture right now the left wing culture has you know the best musicians and some of the better

01:55:45.560 you know movie makers and things like that uh now the right has to play catch up and they're doing

01:55:52.620 that they try to do that with the daily wire that was a bit subversive but there's more and more

01:55:57.280 creatives popping up on the right which i mean again not to compare the left wing to you know

01:56:02.820 the devil on the right wing that's like played out but there is some sort of a resemblance there

01:56:08.400 and there has been like an ignorance of culture from the right wing in the same way there's been an

01:56:14.300 ignorance of your spiritual culture um yeah christianity or at least to a certain level my my favorite

01:56:21.380 christian film in the horror genre is probably from dusk till dawn and that throws people off when i tell

01:56:28.000 them but if you pay attention to the movie you have lights that are you you have you have light shining

01:56:34.900 in the darkness in the movie in the premise with all of the nudity the blood the gore everything in that

01:56:44.020 you also have servants of god and then you find out wait crosses work the man takes a shotgun and a and

01:56:54.300 the the ex preacher because he's retired he takes it he takes a bat takes it through the the hoop of

01:57:02.180 the shotgun where you put the strap in the front and then just cocks it and starts holding it up and

01:57:10.220 it keeps them at bay and then when one of the vampires acts up he just shoots it cocks it again

01:57:14.760 and just keeps it up and it was just that's so significant not to mention you know uh being a

01:57:21.760 90s baby you know the movie came out in 96 but it's just you know one of one of a handful of movies that

01:57:27.440 stand out to me where i'm like you know if they weren't afraid of actually talking about jesus christ

01:57:31.760 in movies even a little bit even a little bit um it doesn't even have to be on the nose as far as like

01:57:38.880 you know being so obvious about it to where it's just you know being preachy because let's be well

01:57:43.720 let's face it the message is being preachy to us now from the left we gotta sit there and deal with

01:57:49.760 the damsels in distress that aren't aren't distressed anymore because they're mary sues they don't need

01:57:54.200 to learn anything new and you know they're destroying franchises left and right so i mean like and that's

01:58:00.180 just one aspect of it you have you have other parts of the woke culture that have gotten into it as

01:58:05.420 well that's kind of also why it goes back to i i don't want to keep you too long but it goes back

01:58:11.160 to what we were talking about with uh with our language and how we're presenting ourselves i've

01:58:16.700 almost made a conscious decision to not it's not really censoring myself but to not uh be completely

01:58:23.540 clean i have this rough edge of these things that i say because i'm like i notice that that's like a

01:58:29.920 it's a tool that has been i mean that that is used by the other side was used by the other side

01:58:37.340 and now they've kind of abandoned it but it's like it's just a way to tell the truth and i know it's

01:58:43.120 it's weird but like you're saying like a nudity in this in this movie it creates this culture and

01:58:49.160 then it tells the truth and people see it well the world is a dirty place yeah and you know it's just

01:58:56.580 one of those things and and talking about what uh i don't know if you were getting at this but

01:59:00.480 um cleaning up language and things like that you do that in christian films and all you're doing is

01:59:07.880 kind of creating a piece of propaganda it doesn't feel real at all that's what it feels like right it

01:59:13.400 it feels like uh you're in a you know like not a padded room but like a a room that's been

01:59:19.420 completely wiped down and it's just not realistic no it's not realistic there are people who die to hell

01:59:25.140 you know like i do want to say this too it's like how many people do you do you bump into or not

01:59:30.820 bump into but they're these influencers and let's say they're of a christian lean right well there is

01:59:37.560 an not an air of arrogance or like a holier than thou that like drives people away where i have found

01:59:43.820 that as long as i am myself and and obviously there is a certain amount of like remorse or or

01:59:51.080 you know um i feel sometimes in the way that i slip or the way that i sin i suppose but my

01:59:57.980 approachability brings people to the conversation where it's like i'm not the the way in the life

02:00:06.060 jesus christ is god is is the point if i can bring you to it by just being who i am then that's so much

02:00:14.460 better than you know these these or maybe it's not better than maybe there's just a crowd that's not

02:00:19.540 being spoken to and maybe we get to speak to that crowd different part of the body i don't maybe i

02:00:24.760 don't know well okay so i like to think of it like this um i used to play rpgs all the time then i

02:00:30.200 realized that like i have something of an addictive personality so i stopped but you think about people

02:00:35.540 who they like buying the armor early on so that even though they're a level five they have their credit

02:00:42.520 card their mom's credit card and they now they look like a level 58 or whatever christians are doing

02:00:49.040 that every day they're they are a level five christian they're going into level 58 territory

02:00:54.260 they're wearing the you know this armor that it's just cosmetic it and they're faking it till they

02:01:00.840 make it and that's just not the way to do it um be authentic to yourself don't try not to sin

02:01:07.700 that doesn't work because when you try not to do something you think about doing it but just do

02:01:12.880 um ironically bringing up paul again um but um paul said do all in the glory of god whatever you do

02:01:21.100 do all in the glory of god and so just do it in the glory of god and you stay in the light and if

02:01:27.400 you stumble which is you know another word for sin really if you stumble you just get back up

02:01:34.160 right i'm not saying you don't have to ask forgiveness for that sin but what i am saying is

02:01:38.340 keep moving forward be yourself though you know i mean you got every day then i'm sure

02:01:46.140 are spreading the gospel of jesus christ the armor the armor thing that you mentioned uh i forgot who

02:01:52.180 we had on that i was talking about david and goliath but david was offered the armor and he's like this

02:01:58.620 doesn't fit me right it's and i'm not using that i'm going to take this sling so dark in other words

02:02:05.220 in dark souls this is bad for me i can't move i can't i'm not going to dodge roll in this man

02:02:10.220 like i need to ditch it perhaps yeah very interesting very interesting thing about it that

02:02:15.240 way man but listen we've kept you here for two hours um this has been fantastic yeah i see that

02:02:20.860 and shout out to cam uh who told me about you this is a i would this is a fascinating conversation

02:02:28.080 you're a fascinating dude we would probably ask you to come on again in the future man um

02:02:32.860 well i appreciate that absolutely can you can you tell our audience they were asking before in

02:02:37.220 the chat that's why i put the names up tell them your name where they can find you all that stuff

02:02:42.500 uh yeah sure so um my name is israel um israel patty is my full name um uh you can find me on

02:02:49.900 izzy centric on just about any social media because i tried to snatch that up before you know some bot got

02:02:54.600 it but yeah um i'm a bible teacher and i studied demonology i am actually trying to work on us um

02:03:03.280 shifting over into something more of a podcast space or segments that range anywhere between five

02:03:09.460 minutes to 25 minutes to 45 minutes but i'm trying not two hours well even if i did reach even if i did

02:03:15.700 reach two hours my problem is i do ums and butts all the time and so i plan on just chopping myself up

02:03:22.060 and doing jump cuts and pre-recorded stuff and then um making sure it sounds good for spotify because

02:03:27.320 people keep saying hey you got a good voice and i'll subscribe to you in a heartbeat if you switch

02:03:32.620 into that space and i'm like think about it i'll think about it but yeah so um ranging between aliens

02:03:38.940 cryptids ghosts uh anything in the paranormal i'll talk about um esoteric hollywood i like talking about

02:03:44.340 that and i know that jay dyer does too and then guys it sucks that he ended up butting heads

02:03:48.600 with you guys i hate that we're gonna i mean i mean we can reschedule him he probably does like us

02:03:54.600 or not rather he probably doesn't like us we like him i don't mind him at all i just think that

02:04:00.520 the thing is it just got i don't know what happened he he got weird with david it was very strange and

02:04:07.540 we were supposed to have him on the next day and i said hey listen like this is not the type of show

02:04:11.960 that we run we don't do debates we don't do that kind of shit like if you're coming on we're gonna

02:04:16.600 agree if if you were here physically with me i'd give you something to drink something to eat come

02:04:21.360 sit down you know like very that's how i like to run this show so not adversarial that's not adversarial

02:04:28.720 yes i'll tell you guys this i actually i lean to the east i'm not orthodox myself i have my

02:04:34.880 reservations but um if if i can help be a little bit of like a transitional person uh you know i'd love

02:04:43.160 to talk with the man myself honestly um and that really goes for la marzulli as well um because

02:04:48.820 i'll tell you what we love la he's awesome it was great having bob larson want to have me on but as

02:04:55.080 soon as he did that and started exploiting me and then started like really defamating me i was just

02:05:00.380 like okay if we could like not have that happen again i don't you know if i if i could have uh nice

02:05:05.960 chill conversations like this um i'm all for it absolutely awesome maybe we could set something

02:05:13.340 up uh david and i think your your screen's frozen but we can hear you david anywhere they can find

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02:06:21.380 guys we'll see you on saturday peace out the greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box

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