00:03:20.140Longest maybe is like two years I got close.
00:03:22.860But I was in a machine shop and welding and fabrication and everything.0.60
00:03:27.860So my point is to say that as a dude who worked shitty jobs, you get it, right?0.69
00:03:34.440If you came from an environment that's very corporate, very HR, like that kind of a deal, then we're not for you.
00:03:41.160But if you worked like a normal dude where, you know, you had to crack some jokes because you smashed your knuckles when you were wrenching, I think we're kind of a good fit for that sort of a person.
00:03:56.740It's a step below gallows humor, like gallows humor in the sense of like we're going through hell, so we have to make the best of it.0.71
00:04:02.540Like, you know, sometimes working a shitty job is something that's like hell light or diet hell.0.95
00:04:07.300I find some solace in like in the scriptures when we're reading about the apostles and it's like, well, none of those guys were white cow.0.93
00:04:15.060I guess Matthew might have been the tax collector.0.97
00:04:18.420But the rest of these guys are, I don't know, they're construction workers, they're fishermen.
00:04:25.620And that's what I found like about Christianity in general, man, that I feel like is there's a new phase here.
00:04:31.000Because when I was growing up anyway, you go to church and you expect the pastor to be perfect for some reasons.
00:04:36.740like they want to they want to put on this aura of being perfect even the even the suits and0.85
00:04:41.180everything and now it's like i don't respect any of that man like i know that that's bullcrap0.98
00:04:45.840bullshit i guess you could say you know like i know it is it's faking the funk you know because0.96
00:04:50.200uh you know i realize now the first thing that i said to him as he walked in i go man you guys1.00
00:04:55.380what that dick do play i didn't say that i said why the fuck is everybody so tall yeah like he's0.98
00:05:01.360standing next to shane i'm just kind of like i know that's how it is everybody in this space0.99
00:05:05.500in the podcast space except for me and david really yeah yeah i think you got to be like
00:05:09.360six feet old we broke the we're an anomaly we're breaking the mold uh but i mean yeah that that
00:05:14.700whole idea of faking the funk we're called to christ right and and this is like this idea of
00:05:19.800come as you are and then the rest will happen as god sees fit and we're all sinners and and kind0.91
00:05:25.460of retarded so this idea that like you know you have this calling in christ and now you're all0.90
00:05:29.860shiny and new and perfect and you got a nice suit and you don't say cuss words and all these other0.87
00:05:33.820things is like i i don't know man it's just i think what it actually does is it deters from
00:05:38.940the fact that like look even me a broken retard and i'm being called by christ even i have salvation
00:05:45.480even i have redemption through christ uh and even i have purpose but in christ it also like as we0.50
00:05:50.220were we were painting back there the other day and i david was you you bring up that point and
00:05:54.620then i turned to you and i said what we're doing also has a little bit of a drawback because
00:05:59.500in response to the person that is very buttoned up i'm gonna be more off the handle who i am
00:06:06.120but what if i change right oh yeah like because there has been points in this journey where like
00:06:11.740it's a there's a palpable sensation of god going all right enough of that you know should i do this
00:06:17.500anymore right and i'm like not well if i change now am i going to be perceived as fraudulent i
00:06:22.580guess it doesn't matter but there is that i guess you could say i mean if you change your
00:06:27.880morals there's a difference between changing maybe your your style of dress i feel like in
00:06:33.360your morals you know like because you can dress any way you want it doesn't change who you are0.92
00:06:37.860that you can put a suit on a pig it doesn't change that they're gonna roll in the mud they're gonna
00:06:41.540do all that so like i look at people honestly i look at people that um everybody you have to wear
00:06:47.300different hats what does paul say become all things to all men right so if you're in that scene
00:06:52.120you have to go along with the scene and i get it dude i mean recently i've got a lot of flack
00:06:57.120because of my friendships i have like david rodriguez he's like kind of maga you know and
00:07:01.700i took a picture with eric trump yesterday which so they got a lot of trouble huh i mean come on
00:07:06.760you see if i see donald trump in the streets yes i'm taking a picture with donald trump yeah
00:07:11.980that's an insane thing i saw it so you're talking about this picture you posted it on on facebook
00:07:15.840that i saw and all of a sudden there's people that are resharing it and they're going can you0.82
00:07:20.520believe this he must have sold out i'm like are you you're a loser dude i saw him at a get this0.58
00:07:25.860a longhorn steakhouse let's go in in uh not jupiter in palm springs okay palm yeah palm0.91
00:07:34.180springs right that's where yeah we were hoping to see uh what's his name the epstein lookalike
00:07:38.340what's oh palm yeah i was hoping to see that guy but we saw eric instead which was better yeah
00:07:44.760did you have any little kids with you no that's why you didn't see him yeah if you want the kids
00:07:49.460out palm beach pete would have came out oh yeah dude we might have but uh yeah so it was he just
00:07:54.080was walking by and i was like it's eric trump what the heck yeah let's take a picture yeah he's tall
00:07:58.100too he's taller than me i know he looks huge he's tall he's a huge dude yeah you know but that's
00:08:02.840that whole idea of like everybody we were talking with shane cashman about this in the conspiracy
00:08:08.620community and even it bleeds over into the christian circles it's like if you're seen as
00:08:14.740associating with anybody at all now we have to what are you compromised are you controlled
00:08:19.260opposition are you a fed and it's like dog i took a picture and i get it though i get it because i've
00:08:23.860had that same mindset before i see people like how are they doing this like you know they came
00:08:27.920out of nowhere and then i'm like okay i've for the last year i've been just saying yes to the
00:08:33.440opportunities and just going right and so that's how they do it i figured it out there is they just
00:08:38.660go and they hang out with people and they become friends with people and shit happens outside of
00:08:42.660the living room right yeah to be honest like with this with what we're doing here is a little bit
00:08:47.100different a lot of people go oh you came out of nowhere i'm like you guys have no clue how you
00:08:51.060hustled yeah yeah I've been working in the podcast field for 10 years you can go and see me I wasn't
00:08:56.500on screen but I was designing and I was making all the important connections so uh when we uh when
00:09:01.960we finally did start the show and it had a little bit of momentum I'm able to call in Sam Tripoli
00:09:06.480and be like hey yeah what's up Sam the amount of people that said yes to this show I did work for
00:09:10.560you I did designs for you we have a show if you find it and boom and we're running so yeah there's
00:09:15.820a lot of hard work put behind it and uh people don't see that part but I don't expect them to
00:09:20.300you'd have to really dig to see it yeah it's much easier to just you know accuse somebody of being
00:09:25.160a fed more fun a lot of the times i think too is because they they didn't do it yep so they're
00:09:31.300like i couldn't do it how did he do it yeah but i'm telling you right now if you guys want to
00:09:35.840know the secret it is connections yeah oh yeah you make friends you become all things all men
00:09:40.940and try to witness within whatever circle that is that you're in yeah even if it's a political
00:09:45.320and even whatever it is you just don't fold your own morals in the process that's it yeah that's
00:09:50.640it um well look before we go any further let's talk about where people can find your work and
00:09:54.780support you pounders quest is on youtube that's the channel that i just started about seven months
00:09:59.520ago i'm trying to build that i'm i'm not that great at interviewing people but i have good
00:10:03.340guests sometimes okay i'm not like you guys i'm learning actually from you guys i listen to
00:10:07.240people because i'm i for some reason man like especially like this is easy easier for me yeah
00:10:12.780But like when you're looking at a screen on a on a camera and you're talking to somebody over there, it's a little bit harder for me anyway.
00:10:19.600Maybe it's just me, but you got to catch the beats.
00:10:21.960It's there's a certain way to do that.
00:10:23.640There's a level of connectivity that's missing.
00:10:34.500That's one good thing that did come out of COVID was that the bar was substantially lowered for entry as to who could start a podcast.
00:10:41.080Because previously, if you look at like the Rogan sphere, it was like, you got to have a studio, it's got to be, and then, you know, COVID made it so everybody was doing remote, which meant that everybody could participate.
00:10:50.480And so the audience, the listener got acclimated to that and all the shortcomings that come with it.
00:10:55.820John, you're 100% right about that, like that learning curve.
00:10:58.840And I was lucky enough, like, so this was the old podcast I did with, there were five guys, not David, and we would do it all remote.
00:11:05.180so we're dealing with a slight delay uh technical issues audio issues all the time five guys and
00:11:12.320it's a comedy show and everyone's trying to stab everyone's jumping in so like that show i'm blessed
00:11:17.320to have done that for a long time because it helped me learn the beats and like learn the uh
00:11:22.120that's learning on the job but the job is really chaotic yeah yeah and you get good at it i mean
00:11:26.600you do it for years and you're like all right i understand well maybe i'll learn subscribe to me
00:11:30.660guys and we'll see because the more subscribers we get all of us really the better guests we can
00:11:35.400have right and the better things we can do sure yeah i've been seeing you you had an interesting
00:11:39.500thing to say when you first came here because i mentioned i had seen you in person with a lot of
00:11:44.080different people lately you're like doing a tour yeah yeah it's like a pounders tour so and you
00:11:48.320said well i'm kind of saying yes to everything what what inspired that what's going on man like
00:11:54.200So basically around 2024, I decided to...
00:11:58.880Eating well shouldn't be complicated, but somehow it turns into recipes, prep, cleanup, and half your Sunday gone.
00:14:14.940What did you do? Talk about the vaccine. That's right. Yeah. You were on the show talking about that. Yeah. Yeah. So got removed. Several channels removed on YouTube. Got all of our financial stuff kind of ripped out from underneath us. Even the sponsors we had. It's rough. It's scary. It was hard. And so at the time I've got four employees. Yeah. That I that I ended up having to let go. Eventually all of them like one at a time. It was just like the money was just hemorrhaging.
00:14:41.820Yeah. And then the economy just started like blowing up. And I'm like, during that time, I was like, okay, I got to bundle down. I've got things I got to do. I need to read more anyway, because there's a lot of things I don't know about yet. So I got addicted. I'm an addict by just by birth. I've been an addict to anything. Like when I was younger, it was drugs. Okay. Or what sex or whatever, you know, but now at that time I was addicted to reading. So I read every book that I could find.
00:19:05.520I mean, because I can literally do what all my employees did within 10 minutes versus, like, them taking all day and me paying for eight hours or whatever, you know.
00:19:33.260So Now UCTV was more about studying the Bible, lining it up with, because in my mind, the people that I was reaching, which we did, we reached a lot of people that were New Agers, that were Gnostics.0.96
00:19:45.380because we had the information they had because we read all the books.0.95
00:19:49.400Like my David, his name is David Carrico.
00:19:53.160Even though like now we're not working together, you know, for a lot of different reasons.
00:20:41.840I mean, we do a show called Neff to America, which is we're actually going to do some of this afterwards with you and Shane.0.99
00:20:47.260And it's like we're just going to pull out the big topics that are going off right now.
00:20:50.580And really, we're going to kind of take the piss out of them, make fun of them instead of worrying about, you know, all the ins and outs of the intricate information and, you know, stuff like that.
00:28:34.040Especially in my area, German, Illuminati.0.96
00:28:36.380So the Bavarians, at the time that they were booted, you'll see that the migration in Indiana is all German towns pretty much, like German and everything.0.87
00:37:15.580Melungeon, that's where the word mulatto came from.
00:37:17.640Melungeon is basically a group of people that they don't know how to define that came over to like the Appalachia area, Kentucky area, all that, that were kind of a mixture of all of the above.
00:37:51.100Like, if you go to my family meetings for, like, my family meetings.1.00
00:37:53.800My family meetings, and they talk about how they're going to take over America.
00:37:56.880i'm brooklyn yeah like you know for holidays but like i got a black cousin like this i got a white
00:38:03.160cousin white with blue eyes and then i'm like in the middle it's it's just all the colors my kids
00:38:08.680are like that i've got two or three little blonde-headed girls blue eyes all of them have
00:38:13.520hazel eyes and then my boys i got a tall he's almost my height he's got hair that's out to
00:38:18.180here big curly hair brown hair you know like so it's like a wide variety through all of them i
00:38:23.560i kind of love it man i like the variety i don't know i like it because i can't i could never get
00:38:28.340caught up in identity politics because i'm so many different things it's like what am i going to
00:38:32.160claim am i going to claim all of them so all of them suck in their own way i can tell you
00:38:37.180explicitly how they all suck actually i've been uh well studied in that but yeah i mean it's uh0.77
00:38:42.560it's saved me from doing that and of course there's other pitfalls if you want to get into0.53
00:38:45.780political uh identity politics or cultural identity politics but i never got into the
00:38:50.140racial ones because you know what could i possibly claim but this idea of indiana is is fascinating
00:38:55.480comes up on the show often it is a weird place i was i showed my son an old show from the 90s
00:39:00.780called uh eerie indiana i believe it's called uh it's kind of like goosebumps i heard you guys and
00:39:05.380jt talking about it on the way here i listened to your episode with jt i'll tell you what man
00:39:09.140if you ever get a chance just to go back and look at that uh it's they start off with stuff that
00:39:14.560ends up being like the basis for mk ultra you know i think i talked about it on that show where the
00:39:19.600guy gets his braces and he's picking up the frequency that ends up enabling him to hear
00:39:24.700the thoughts of his dog you know yeah so the whole season interesting oh it's a huge part of my quest
00:39:30.360is like finding people that are experts in that yeah i found some and dude the stuff they have
00:39:35.720is just crazy like i mean it starts like some of the treatments that we're talking i'll talk i'll
00:39:40.580tell you about one of the treatments there's a guy i'm not gonna say his name because dangerous
00:39:44.720maybe for him maybe although billionaires go to where he's at he's in the middle of the redwood
00:39:49.560forest in california oh wow um he has a system and i i'm gonna i'm gonna say it because i don't
00:39:57.780he didn't tell me you can't tell the system or anything like that so they're just behind this
00:40:02.020guy he collected frequencies everything has a frequency this has a frequency yep you know this
00:40:06.860has a frequency i have a frequency you have a frequency for the government he collected 10 000
00:40:11.540frequencies okay and they only wanted some of them and so he was allowed to keep the rest of
00:40:18.460those frequencies and he developed a way to be able to shoot frequencies into the body you guys
00:40:23.160have heard of the rife machine and all that stuff like that actually sponsor of the show early real
00:40:26.880early sponsor of the show yeah okay so this this is one of the guys all right so probably a fed
00:40:31.940probably probably at least at one time god bless him yeah but his treatment started out at anywhere
00:40:37.380from like 50 000 up to a million dollars so like it's but this is why i'm going to tell you why
00:40:43.660is that much because a guy that was a very high level guy went in there stroke completely whole
00:40:51.100right side limp like couldn't walk hardly had to be carted in by wheelchair went into the treatment
00:40:57.580and walked out all right walked out and i'm gonna tell you how he did it but basically he understood
00:41:03.180that in the blood there was these little black things that float around the blood and people
00:41:06.540never really knew what they were they kind of just discarded them when they redo your blood
00:41:09.900they discard them. But what they are, according to him, is baby, what is the stuff they shoot
00:41:17.060into you? Oh, stem cells. They're baby stem cells, general baby stem cells. And he developed a
00:41:23.260frequency that cracked the shells of these black things. And so he would crack the shells of these1.00
00:41:27.780black things and insert the frequency into the problem area. And those stem cells became baby0.98
00:41:33.260stem cells for the area that he shot them into. So his, his frequency then is, uh, it's designed
00:41:39.800to, uh, activate those cells, but to become a specific thing. Like if it's like a shoulder
00:41:45.200injury, it just automatically happens. Oh, they would know what to do. They would know what to
00:41:48.480do once they're hatched. And he also, this is even crazier, man. So like some of this stuff is
00:41:53.800proprietary patents pending, maybe not even they'll ever get out just because who knows what's
00:41:58.520going to happen. I mean, uh, with all this, if they get, if this stuff gets out, like it's going
00:42:01.960to cripple a lot of industries yeah yeah yeah uh pharmaceutical industries for sure even which
00:42:06.360we're right right now in a stranglehold by those industries ever especially since 2020 you know
00:42:11.320we have some stuff to talk about later on that show regarding that but please continue so patches
00:42:15.820they have patches that you can put on and let's say you wanted to be high from marijuana and you
00:42:20.840wanted to thc so there's a frequency for thc they can put the patch on you and shoot the frequency
00:42:26.020and you're high instantly like you like you just smoked weed and then as soon as you take it off
00:42:30.520you're done so no drug test problem you know like hang have problem like i don't want to be high
00:42:35.400right now yeah yeah like we're drunk or whatever they have those landlord just knocked on the door
00:42:39.840let me take this patch off yeah yeah so they have that right then then they're developing ways on
00:42:44.640how they monetize that so they maybe prescript like you get a certain subscription subscription
00:42:50.980not prescription you pay and then you get a certain amount of uses per month that's fascinating
00:42:55.400whoa that's fair so so obviously yeah they've been experiencing or experimenting rather with
00:43:01.040these frequency-based technologies for a long time and i think a lot of them kind of came out of like
00:43:05.100you know 1947 end of world war ii you know nazi regime i think they were doing a lot and then a
00:43:10.640lot of that goes on to inform mk ultra but it would make a lot of sense to me that the applications
00:43:15.240of it are so vast that the medical industry would be among the first to really get the wide rollout
00:43:20.680And also the most booming, you know, when it comes to the success around it.
00:43:24.680But you have all this apparatus that stands in the way, like the current rendition of the medical industry.
00:43:30.160But this idea of frequency, everything having a frequency, let's maybe look this up.
00:43:34.620So, you know how in the Bible it talks about not wearing, not mixing fabrics, which I always thought was an interesting but anomalous kind of a deal.
00:43:43.300And I'm sure within the context, if you read the scripture, I'm not familiar with it.
00:43:46.300But I wouldn't be surprised if you can kind of go, no, this isn't why.
00:43:49.340It just doesn't make sense why in the context of Scripture, but I know I'm probably sure you've figured it out.
00:43:55.320Well, I don't know if this is true, but in 2003, there's a Dr. Heidi Yellen who starts to research the frequencies of different fabrics.
00:44:04.400So linen and wool have a frequency of 5,000.
00:44:10.380That's what, you know, frequency of fabric studies is 5,000.
00:50:05.520And the lyrics all go through where he's talking about the color, the sensation, how it makes him feel, and then in accordance with the chords that he's playing.
00:50:14.160So sensation, synesthesia has to do with sensations.
00:50:16.980Well, as he's hearing, tasting, smelling, he's seeing color.
00:56:08.540Yeah, so he was saying that in the files that he found, because it had to pertain to a brain surgery, what he wanted to find out.
00:56:14.660He was also looking at, like, what is affecting a certain chromosome because everybody's had this chromosome where people are getting overweight, people are – all these problems that people are having.
00:56:24.660And he found out which one it was, and it coincides with why people take GLP-1s.
00:56:30.740GLP-1s is because that's the one it inhibits.
00:56:33.540That's the problem, and it causes hormone problems and all of these things.
00:59:23.980And they did studies for Walmart that showed that there's a correlation between the flicker rate of the LEDs in Walmart drives up anxiety and impulse control goes way down.
01:00:04.080Well, think about the obesity epidemic in America.
01:00:06.000I wonder if there's a, you know, a graph you could look at is the implementation of that sort of a light across all the different industries that you are in, whether it's school or your shopping centers or anything like that.
01:00:18.140And then the increase of the obesity epidemic.
01:00:21.100I try to tell my wife, too, like, I'm like, you don't understand.
01:05:10.580Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And if you know that it's all pitted against you, then you can navigate it.
01:05:14.360Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we talk about pretty often this idea of like free range MK ultra chicken.
01:05:20.560So even this idea of the flicker rate and the anxiety and how Russia use this idea to liberate their people from mind control, whereas in America, it becomes a free range thing.
01:05:32.220There's so many aspects of those intelligence operations and specifically the manipulation of the psyche of human beings, right?
01:05:39.720Everything that they learned through disassociative states and, you know, psychedelic usage and trauma-based mind control, all this.
01:05:47.180They took it, and it seems like somebody said, well, how do we implement this at scale, right?
01:05:52.260So we're all being traumatized by, like, a news cycle that's, like, two days long before the next trauma thing hits.
01:05:57.540We're on, like, MKUltra 4.0 now, maybe 5.0.
01:06:01.700So, I mean, what do you think about this idea, not so much to hang on the idea of how much is pitted against us, but the idea that any of us are actually overcoming this, that guys like us are in a studio right now having conversations where by so many measures you would say,0.60
01:06:23.040fuck man that that trillion upon trillion dollar industry those those generations of research that0.97
01:06:29.420you're aiming at us it's actually still i consider myself retarded and i go you can't fucking get me1.00
01:06:35.280that's pretty crazy dude it's dude it goes back to those contracts those ideas of what they're0.96
01:06:40.900allowed to do you you if you they they can only operate what they can operate they can't do they
01:06:46.820can't touch you unless they are told to touch you or they have or you consent right consent by doing
01:06:51.840something like we're i don't know if we it was no i think it was me and um i don't remember who it
01:06:57.340was i was talking about maybe it was you but we were talking about the idea of king balak you
01:07:01.840guys know that story in the bible king balak and remind me balaam is the prophet who was paid yeah
01:07:06.780yeah with the donkey to come and okay yeah yeah balaam's donkey yeah so he couldn't curse him
01:07:10.700he couldn't every time he opened his mouth god's like you're gonna bless them actually you know so
01:07:15.560like forget that well he come up with an idea with king balak and he says we can't curse him
01:07:21.000This is what Jude talks about, right?0.91
01:07:22.580Like when he's talking about the folly or the mistake of Balaam.0.65
01:07:42.800They don't have the right to do anything to you unless God says, just like in Job,
01:07:46.000like they operate under contracts, they operate under all of that.
01:07:49.040And that's why they have to tell you what they're doing.
01:07:51.240Like, I used to not think that was true, but I found out that it is very true because they have, you know, if they tell you what they're doing, the punishment is less.
01:07:58.920The physical risk things they receive, the reaping and sowing is less and different.
01:08:04.100And also we're then giving some level of educated consent.
01:08:13.320I believe that because otherwise, yes, they can touch you.0.91
01:08:16.420They can come and kill you and not right now.0.97
01:08:18.020They could mentoring candidate anybody and have them come kill you, or they could blow your building up and the next building over and make it look like it was over there.0.95
01:08:25.800And I think they do that, but they can only do that in small instances.
01:08:31.120But as far as this wide-scale implementation across an entire culture or entire planet of people, they need to play it incrementally.
01:08:40.240As long as you're a servant of God, too, like the promise to the servants of the Lord, no weapon formed against you shall prosper.
01:08:48.020and every tongue that rises up against you in judgment thou shalt condemn that's why i don't
01:08:52.200even answer people anymore they can talk shit all they want yeah but ultimately like i'm doing what0.95
01:08:56.900i feel like god wants me to do i'm not perfect i suck a lot of ways i get angry sometimes i get0.96
01:09:01.880like you know depressed i get i go through all the stages i cuss sometimes i you know i maybe i0.55
01:09:08.940i haven't i don't drink hardly ever but you know like there's times when i've had too much to drink
01:23:27.280smell like uh sulfur and pew and rotten flesh yeah that sounds that's like so and that's you'll
01:23:33.340get that in alien abductions same smell and even cryptid encounters shane cashman said that uh
01:23:38.640gavin newsom smelled like sulfur that's right yeah he did say that no way um and then my cousins
01:23:43.720you know they're they're better now uh but when they were kids when they were little kids they
01:23:49.300had these voices and it was like run away so so i would be in was there trauma in your family uh
01:23:55.140So, I mean, like I said, Grandma was an alien abductee victim from childhood, and then she goes to the new age, and then, you know, big alcoholic, and then ends up passing away super young.
01:24:23.460But like, yeah, the life of David, how he ends up here and his childhood filled with all of the things that we are constantly discovering in the show.
01:24:33.760And that's I think that's why we're looking at these things.
01:24:36.400It's also why I'm so shitty when it comes to people who are big alien buffs who think like this has nothing to do with the Bible.1.00
01:24:43.780I'm like, you fucking idiots, man.1.00
01:24:46.000Like, this is so much darker and more spiritual.1.00
01:30:57.540That's why I was saying, so, go ahead.
01:30:59.860He's positioned high, and we know a lot of people that are like that.
01:31:05.300And if God put him in that position, good.
01:31:07.300But God put me in the position also, like, right, like, below your little ball, and he put me in the position to move it the way that I think that—
01:31:15.460Well, you've got to do what you've got to do, what you feel like is right.
01:32:43.260Um, that's, that happens. I mean, you have to, like Art of War, like you have to, you have to be close to keep your friends close, enemies closer.
01:32:52.180I also don't, I don't envy that position and that pressure, right? I mean, you're right.
01:32:57.420No, I think you have to be, you have to be opposition. There has to be some opposition.
01:33:01.640There has to be, even for Albari or for any of us, there has to be some opposition because if there's no opposition against me, I think I'm right.
01:33:08.000I think I'm right about everything. I listen to some of the opposition. I'm like, is there some truth to this?
01:33:13.260this yeah sometimes there's some truth to me being a this or that and sometimes it's nothing you know
01:33:17.560like most of the time it's just people being a jealous rage or they're upset or they're mad
01:33:22.440about something that happened a couple days ago i even have people you know email me man i'm so
01:33:28.000sorry for what i said on this show back then i know it probably hurts you i'm like yeah in my
01:33:32.480mind i'm thinking like i didn't see it probably but you're it's okay you know i'm saying it's
01:33:36.680all good but yeah dude it's it's it's a tough thing to try to please the crowd it's not a level
01:33:41.880playing field either you know people because they don't have a camera and a mic there's all these
01:33:46.600things they want to say and sometimes all that comes out is one really crazy thing in the form
01:33:52.440of text as you're doing a show and they're they're watching you so they're hearing you all the time
01:33:56.620you're never hearing them so it's very disproportionate and and they don't know my
01:33:59.920personal life they don't know your personal life they don't know anything you know sometimes if you0.98
01:34:03.620just say like damn dog they'll be like i'm sorry i didn't mean all that you know that happens really0.96
01:34:08.100often actually so you know it is what it is but it's just um if it's if it's uh the same way you0.99
01:34:14.120don't make an idol out of a man is i think the same way you don't entirely condemn a man either
01:34:18.960so you could not make an idol of them and you could also not condemn them and you could just
01:34:23.160look objectively at the things that are being said and then critique where it's like so so i want to
01:34:28.980ask you something and this might i don't know if this will be like uh personal or whatever but you
01:34:33.620were just at the conference and there were some some of the people that we've been criticizing
01:34:37.720were probably at the at the conference uh yeah we had like this whole spat with the pod pastors
01:34:43.580i don't know but yeah the pod pastor situation we kind of got the ones that uh like that talked
01:34:49.260about the alien meeting or whatever yeah and so the the main gripe that i had was that i was
01:34:54.100following tony pretty closely at the time and understood based off of his his own sharing of
01:35:00.180i guess you know the testimony of what happened uh that it was not what was being characterized
01:35:05.500and sensationalized by the media now the media will sensationalize the thing and that's not
01:35:09.400anybody's fault but from that point forward if you were there you have an obligation to set the
01:35:14.880record straight and i looked and saw many of the people just feed into that one of the guys
01:35:19.340like wasn't even at the meeting and he was saying that he was at the meeting i'm like this is like
01:35:24.260level yeah another guy was saying everything that is being said is true that was the tweet
01:35:30.460and it was like immediately after that that was not the case uh so much of it was blown out of
01:35:35.840proportion but i mean there's people that do stuff like that dude and i don't like i know
01:35:40.320most of the time i don't know about it yeah and this probably serves me a little bit just better
01:35:45.620because if i do know about it then like you know i'm gonna give him a hard time yeah i'm glad i
01:35:51.760didn't know about what i knew part of it because i had jamie walden on jamie walden jamie was one
01:35:56.520Jamie was one of the guys, but not really like the guys that I saw.
01:36:54.900yes yeah so he he comes out and says something about it makes it viral okay and then everybody
01:37:01.200else is like i had a meeting maybe this is the meeting they're talking about by the way the
01:37:04.400timing of that was remarkable right it was a different meeting but there's there's two different
01:37:07.720meetings going on that a lot of people don't know about there's a meeting the white house has their
01:37:11.480own people yeah and then there's these like intelligence private intelligence people that
01:37:15.360kind of have their own thing going on so there's like there was two different meetings it was a lot
01:37:18.880of confusion and some people probably said stuff that were like i don't know dude i can only imagine
01:37:24.360If they're charismatic pastors, they say sometimes charismatic pastors say some of the wildest things just right off the top of their head, you know?
01:37:32.060You know what a lot of it is, is you're all of a sudden involved in something that's on the world stage, which is kind of fascinating.
01:37:39.500The fact that the Trump administration began to break disclosure within a week after that.
01:37:57.640And so when that happens, whatever the case is with any of these guys, and maybe they have a good body of work underneath them, I don't really know them.
01:38:07.120I just see them saying this thing that I know is not true.
01:38:11.120There are guys that I definitively know were at the Tony Merkel meeting who were saying the government called for a closed-door meeting.
01:38:18.000That's a big problem because that's not true.
01:38:19.960Well, now you're saying that there was a one, but not this one that they were talking about.
01:38:23.940And that's even the thing is because guys that I know were not at that one were saying that that was the case when they weren't at that.
01:38:30.140So I'm still – my aim is correct here.
01:38:33.640And I just are – I started ridiculing them.
01:38:36.200And the reason I started ridiculing him is because this this disclosure thing is such a big deal, especially for me.
01:38:44.700You know, I told you about my my grandmother being abducted and it's a real sensitive spot with this alien phenomenon.
01:38:52.040And immediately what happens right before they start breaking, this is a huge portion of the Christian community who says these things are very spiritual and very demonic.
01:39:04.320and there is a ton of fantastic research.
01:43:48.560This is like Bible stuff here, you know, like things are starting to take place that I'm like, it freaks me out a little bit.
01:43:54.380But at this point, I'm like, I believe in the power of God.
01:43:57.060I felt like David, like not scared of anything, out getting me against the world.
01:44:01.240You know, that's the way I felt for three years, I'd say.0.97
01:44:03.500I still kind of feel that way a little bit, just not quite as arrogant and stupid as I was before, you know, a little bit of difference.0.96
01:45:19.800He used to travel the world and wear this red cross, and he would walk around.
01:45:23.880And he was preaching inside of a church one day, and he was telling us, like, I'm getting ready to do this thing because I wanted to stop and see him because I was like, this is too strange for me.
01:47:21.180Everybody worships something, and everybody is moved by a spirit.
01:47:23.800Yeah. And it's just in the only difference is whether or not you're fine tuning yourself to have a specific spirit.
01:47:31.040Yeah. And you're fine tuning yourself to worship a specific God.
01:47:34.660Yeah. Because otherwise you're going to worship something, you know, we kind of say if you have Star Wars all over your walls and, you know, your clothing and everything, it's like it's all idol worship.
01:47:46.060Absolutely. We're geared that way. You know what I mean?
01:47:48.520But I want to answer this before I forget.
01:47:51.780People are listening and be like, you never told us why he believes abductions are different.
01:54:17.060just and then at the same time it felt like and there was something there because i could see
01:54:22.420like a dart once it was down on me but it felt like this giant man took his elbow and just boom
01:54:28.980right my chest and just it's holding me down like right in my face like this is my face he's like
01:54:33.780and dude like and i can't get the name out i can't do nothing and then all of a sudden i
01:54:39.780like i die i feel like i feel like i die my body like leave my body i'm flying through the air i'm
01:54:45.700feeling like really good i'm like oh thank god i'm leaving this earth i don't care anything about0.74
01:54:49.460it i'm like i'm good yeah and i slam back down into my body bro and then i was i'm in my body
01:54:54.360lights are flashing my wife's next to me sound asleep i roll off the bed and fall into the floor
01:54:59.820and at that time the lights are flashing i crawl into the other room and the lights are flashing
01:55:05.520you mean in the room in the room okay and i crawl into the other room and when i get in the other
01:55:09.780room i there's these light beings like that when i say light beings humans but light i'm like super
01:55:14.940bright couldn't tell what they were scared to look at them uh scared to really interact other
01:55:19.780than when they asked me a question they said or they didn't ask me a question they said come with
01:55:23.700us and i said no i don't want to go i was like my wife's in there and that thing attacked me in
01:55:28.480there and i want to get it out of here and then they left boom everything stopped and then with
01:55:33.640then i go back to sleep and this is the part where i'm like okay it's coming back and i start
01:55:39.240underneath my breath saying the name jesus yeshua like any name i can think of that is a
01:55:44.020transliteration of the name Jesus and then gone. Would you consider that a near death experience?
01:55:49.280Do you think you actually died there? Dude, I don't know. I wish I knew. Like I look back on
01:55:53.680those moments and I have no idea, but it is what sparked my interest in all of this. And that was
01:55:58.680definitely something supernatural because it responded to the orders. It responded to my
01:56:05.680desire to this or that. And like, so it was, it was spiritual. Right. And, but I hear other stories
01:56:11.120of people's abductions they don't sound the same they sound like it could have been somebody
01:56:14.620yeah doing something but there is there is a lot of those stories that are very similar yes
01:56:19.960yes there are a lot like all the ones you're talking about with joseph jordan like he how
01:56:23.700many cases hundreds of cases of demons or aliens leaving in the name of jesus right so i had uh
01:56:30.120can't discount that i had an experience where i was you know remember i told you i was up till
01:56:34.440the wee hours of the morning and i was researching because i was homeless but at the time i had a
01:56:38.920girlfriend who i could sneak in and she'd go to sleep and i'd be up till like three every morning
01:56:43.240just researching hat man sleep paralysis all this stuff and i was comfortable with the idea that it
01:56:47.660might be a biological phenomenon where your body goes into paralysis so it doesn't act out its
01:56:52.260dreams right and uh and so i said okay even if that is the case and we're just hallucinating
01:56:57.260because we're paralyzed and we're in a pseudo sleep states and we're afraid so we're hallucinating
01:57:01.360scary things around the room if it's psychological there's a high likelihood this will happen to me
01:57:06.820now because i'm spending all night looking into this phenomenon so i was prepared for that idea
01:57:11.980and sure enough one night it happens i wake up and i am paralyzed but i'm awfully chill about it i'm
01:57:17.760like oh shit this thing is happening you know and i'm like looking around the room i'm observing
01:57:22.560everything i'm i'm in my mind very confident that i am awake and in the bedroom that i fell asleep0.93
01:57:27.740in everything is in its place and then uh suddenly i see the shadow of a man walk across the room
01:57:35.520And I'm struck with this electrical feeling, like this sensation that it feels like I've got minus the pain of full body taser going on and everything locks up.
01:57:58.100I come to again and now I'm by my girlfriend's feet and my feet are by her head.
01:58:02.520And I am I'm confused. I'm like, what's going on? I have all my senses about me, except I still can't move. And I'm looking into my closet and suddenly a, you know, inexplicably bright white light starts pouring out of the closet and I lock up again.
01:58:21.560I'm like extra paralyzed now and everything's vibrating and then boom I black out again and I
01:58:28.060wake up on the other side uh of the bed with my head on the pillow the next morning and for all
01:58:33.940intents and purposes I feel as though I was in that room and you know I was in a weird state
01:58:39.640where sure maybe there was some spirituality bleeding over into my physical realm but the
01:58:44.400my eyes were perceiving my physical room I was or her room um but yeah so there are those elements
01:58:51.260right there's like this tremendous fear there's this electric sensation you know the the the
01:58:56.440whatever phenomenon is going on with the lights those elements those patterns do emerge in so
01:59:01.500much of the testimony but i agree with you there is some other body of testimony that seems to be
01:59:05.920an encounter with something uh because they can't stop it they keep it keeps happening over and over
01:59:11.580again they'll notice like you know weird surgery scars or something that to me sounds like military
01:59:16.220because that's that's something that they have the capabilities to do as well because if they're
01:59:21.820in contact with these beings which i know they are every invention we've had for you know i mean
01:59:26.360tesla said he would channel this stuff yeah yeah so they got this technology so yes they know how
01:59:32.180to do this yeah so there is going to be that too and that's that's they're using that to discredit
01:59:36.200that there's actual demons involved as well what's interesting is that the implant aspect right like
01:59:40.640what are they implanting it's always like a small piece of metal what is a metal a metal is a
01:59:44.020conductor what are we conducting frequency electricity like yeah i think a lot of this
01:59:48.000maybe it's for tracking but i think it's also to facilitate that mind speak we've heard of
01:59:52.800mesmer right frank mesmer i've not mesmerism is where his name came from he wrote a book about
01:59:57.340mesmerism and he was able to control people by adding metals to their drinks and stuff like that
02:00:03.320with magnetism yeah okay and this is where the science of mesmerism and all that stuff comes
02:00:08.260from with metals and frequencies and stuff like that so early on in the conversation and then
02:00:13.160We'll bring it in for a landing because we've got more work to do.
02:00:15.820It sounds like Puharich's work, which I wouldn't be surprised if he got some of that.
02:00:29.040I don't know if we talked about it with you, but I think a lot of the point of the—
02:00:34.600I'm not going to say the word because I don't want to have to edit this later for you two.
02:00:39.100We all know what you're talking about.
02:00:40.120The schedule, right, that all the kids have to go through is, I think, to what's most effective is to get those metal implants in the brain.
02:00:46.920And if you can get them down to a nanoparticle that can cross the blood-brain barrier, and that's where they're said to accumulate these heavy metals.
02:00:55.280That's the frequency-conducting device is your brain, right?
02:00:58.480This is what's tuning into these different frequencies.
02:01:00.440If you can get something directly in there, which is probably why they want Neuralink, then all of a sudden you have the telepathy tapes where these kids are communicating telepathically and they're perceiving all kinds of entities.
02:01:10.860But, you know, that's a whole other bag of worms.
02:01:13.640I want to bring it in for a landing because we got more work to do.
02:01:31.980That's why we don't really talk to as many people these days because we just hang out with each other and with Matt and we do these episodes.
02:01:38.940But sometimes there'll be a reason to do a remote, but it's always best to do it like this.
02:01:42.480I mean, hopefully the goal for the goal for this studio is to be like a hub for people.
02:01:47.120Obviously, we're doing two at a time right now.
02:01:50.180And it would be really cool to have, like, the more we build in this Florida community, have people coming in constantly and doing whatever.