Nephilim Death Squad - Good Villains w⧸ Shane Cashman

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00:00:30.000 expecting tim's gonna ask them about their life you know and it's not an interview show yeah yeah

00:00:35.100 it's a panel show so you have to be prepared so i'm like when i was on irl every day i'm like i'm

00:00:39.080 taking notes all day i'm seeing what's in the news and i'm writing jokes you know i'm just

00:00:43.120 gonna say what i feel like saying and i watch other people go on and like oh man they did not

00:00:47.500 ever watch the show before they know it's like a bigger show but then they get on and they're not

00:00:51.920 getting uh asked like what did you think about this and you know what i jump in that's what me

00:00:55.760 and clint did on the ride there i forget the name of the driver but uh debriefed we were debriefing

00:01:00.740 we were taking notes trying to figure out like what we're gonna uh what we're gonna talk about

00:01:04.320 and he goes nobody does this and i said well why not yeah like they should know what the show's

00:01:09.380 about but he's like yeah nobody ever does the only other person i've seen just like from my

00:01:13.220 experience to prepare and maybe he'll hate that i say this is milo like milo shows up knowing he's

00:01:19.340 got a thing well the funny thing after we prepared all that we didn't get to talk at all because it

00:01:23.060 was like it actually pertains to what's happening today and i spoke about this on a previous show

00:01:27.460 um the daily wire issues with steven crowder and it's kind of funny because steven crowder is now

00:01:32.700 poking his nose into the candace owens thing so it's like the precipice or the very beginning of

00:01:37.420 whatever we're seeing now and i was telling david that somehow like that stress that i was feeling

00:01:43.240 from tim and now i kind of understand it yeah that culminates in like a charlie kirk assassination

00:01:47.540 yeah yeah and now we're here i'm like well how deep was that tim pool everything changed after

00:01:53.860 charlie like whatever whatever that was i don't i remember watching that happen and being like i'm

00:01:58.740 not i already don't believe this you know like yeah that was so strange but we talked about that

00:02:03.380 on a show that we did just the other day where it was like if you were watching it um sort of roll

00:02:08.620 out in real time yeah uh there was that guy that immediately came out with his pants down and and

00:02:14.760 then he's screaming he's a patsy he's like i've dated somebody's a patsy so you have that patsy

00:02:19.760 element immediately injected into the narrative i mean dude we're talking a half an hour into

00:02:24.500 what was going on he's also arrested with child porn later right and he was also associated with

00:02:29.680 uh 9-11 and he was also associated with the boston marathon bombing yeah one of those i don't know

00:02:35.140 if the 9-11 one is true that might have been a rumor i i don't know but the boston bombing one

00:02:38.540 i think so and he also like inserted himself i call these people like grief whores you know they

00:02:42.740 they like attach themselves to a situation and they're like they make it their identity so my

00:02:47.520 my thing with that is um i could see that as a psychological phenomenon that you'd want to

00:02:52.000 associate yourself with a tragedy plenty of people there was a documentary about a woman who was

00:02:55.740 claiming to be at um what's it called 9 11 and it and you know none of that was true she was

00:03:01.720 supposed to be in the building that day but um you know to be there like to actually be there i mean

00:03:07.100 the guy was on camera yeah at the event how do you that's not organic how do you know in that

00:03:12.080 moment i'm gonna say i did it like it's not organic i think we talk about this sorry to

00:03:17.580 break the third wall here guys my kids just walked in we're in a very public coffee shop that's my

00:03:21.560 kid awesome awesome welcome to get attacked welcome back to the show guys should we do

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00:03:53.120 today uh irl with shane cashman which has been a long time coming i'm pumped that we're finally

00:03:58.760 getting together and doing this are you trying to trigger me by saying irl because i was just

00:04:02.160 oh my god i didn't realize what is this you guys bring me here to attack me well does he does he

00:04:07.020 get to claim the name IRL. We're just trying to make you feel at home. I think we've copyrighted

00:04:10.320 that. No, I think so. Already stole a beanie in general. I'm fair. We actually were going to wear

00:04:15.840 the beanies. We just wanted you to feel good about it. I appreciate that. But we read the room and

00:04:19.240 said no beanies. It's also Florida. It's a little hot. So we have your website, shanecashman.com

00:04:23.560 pulled up your new book. I'm excited to put this one in the library, but go ahead and plug, man.

00:04:28.260 Plug away. Yeah, dude. Well, it's great to be here with you guys. You guys are the best. You've been

00:04:31.660 very supportive of me for a long time, and I love doing your show. The book is Good Villains. You

00:04:36.280 can find at shanecashman.com it's out through skyhorse and it's out september 1st you can

00:04:40.740 pre-order it now and i have a sub stack at shanecashman.substack.com i am now completely

00:04:46.240 self-employed so let's hook it up hook it up i've been posting a lot of different op-eds there

00:04:50.540 there are going to be profiles there and some longer investigative pieces that i've been working

00:04:54.260 on and uh it's good to be in florida yeah man well it's good to have you and it's good to see you

00:04:59.260 uh you know i guess able to make some decisions about like yeah you're gonna be self-employed

00:05:04.140 what's that look like i know for a long time you you sat in limbo but uh but now the the gates are

00:05:09.220 open yeah and it's time to go it's a good challenge yeah you know it's been five years of uh a job i

00:05:14.680 love doing and i love doing the show and irl is a show i used to watch all the time then it was

00:05:19.580 crazy to get to do it and meet all these people it's awesome conversations and uh and but we

00:05:25.040 became you know different people i think i say the same uh but they were like moving in a direction

00:05:31.240 where it felt to me like my jokes were not my israel jokes were bombing which i thought which

00:05:38.020 i thought was real jokes bombing is exactly exactly exactly you can see uh israel you can

00:05:44.940 see those jokes not landing well on my page on my twitter page now but did you sign did you sign

00:05:48.960 them i should have i should have but but but tim gave me a great opportunity you know i got through

00:05:56.580 all these crazy things in his book but uh going back to just connect all this back to what we

00:06:01.680 were just saying about charlie kirk i was just watching uh him charlie talk about how he wasn't

00:06:06.380 worried about leftists killing him he was worried about people like in his proximity wow i don't

00:06:11.180 know what that means you could take that in many different directions where did where does that

00:06:14.340 come from because i know there's a lot of things that like we say on this show but never verify i'm

00:06:19.340 aware that there was a lot of text messages about concern expressed like he's on stage i don't know

00:06:24.560 what podcast that was but he's on stage with another guy guy looks like some entrepreneur

00:06:28.560 maybe a politician and he's talking about you know i'm sure if you type in charlie kirk purple

00:06:32.860 haired marxist that'll come out and he's saying in that clip i'm not worried about that he gets

00:06:38.040 those death threats all the time sure uh but he was worried about these people who might have

00:06:42.020 stabbed him back before who are in his proximity i don't know if that means exactly his proximity

00:06:46.540 like what how do you define proximity but just go back to what you're talking about contracts and

00:06:50.540 how hairy it can all get some of the most evil people i've met have been the people who consider

00:06:56.400 themselves christian yeah podcasts you know you see a lot of these front-facing people who have

00:07:00.860 a lot of access to the administration right now who were so-called dissident voices in 2020 and

00:07:06.440 now that trump's in and their podcast friends are like the fbi director their tune has completely

00:07:10.440 changed they might have had an epstein binder yeah um yeah and that shows me at least like

00:07:16.320 there's a lot of power and money involved in all this and what happens we know what happens with

00:07:21.080 that stuff so of course in 2020 we saw a lot of insane leftists burn stuff down however i do

00:07:27.780 sometimes think that there was a lot of agitators yeah of course might have been accelerationists

00:07:31.920 or undercover right who was dropping off pallets of bricks it could have been the right for all i

00:07:36.800 know like i you see j6 how they infiltrated that with agitators who are undercover feds

00:07:41.560 anything's possible um so i think there's a lot of violence on both sides you know what the so

00:07:47.420 a lot of good people too the maybe the picture that you're painting i haven't met them yet uh

00:07:53.020 the picture that you're painting is actually really nefarious because if it's a purple-haired

00:07:56.260 marxist you it's pretty identifiable but this is a wolf in sheep's clothing type of scenario where

00:08:01.120 they're among in your proximity uh and they are uh if you're not scrutinizing them seemingly

00:08:07.220 innocuous this is what we get accused of a lot or at least uh we get uh uh lambasted for because

00:08:12.900 we're looking at the people that are on our side uh most recently the pod pastors this kind of idea

00:08:19.780 where it's like oh you're just dressed up like one of us but you're not one of us yeah and then

00:08:25.000 they'll look at us and they go well you guys have foul language you're not one of us i'm like no no

00:08:28.180 it's actually the opposite yeah yeah but uh as we're sitting here pointing them out we look like

00:08:33.280 uh we look like the baddies we do look like the baddies luckily we've built a reputation of yeah

00:08:37.520 not giving a shit and probably even like you said leaning into that but um yeah i mean you talked 0.99

00:08:41.980 about everything changing around that charlie kirk moment it kind of became this uh like shit 0.98

00:08:47.600 got real and you know you brought up people like milo and i remember watching elijah schaefer kind

00:08:53.300 of have this moment where he was tangoing with this idea because yeah these people in in often

00:08:59.020 cases were people that you associated with to whatever degree and if that happened to him

00:09:03.120 then and we don't really know who did it i mean unless you're andrew wilson you know who did it

00:09:08.920 but um it's it's kind of really up in the air still if you're scrutinizing this so if it happened

00:09:14.260 to him who's who's off the table you know and and that's a really big um that's a big question i was

00:09:21.360 not a real fan of charlie's like in terms of like i didn't listen to him yeah you know he he was very

00:09:25.640 nice to like tim and the rest of us he flew us out to his amfest thing in 2021 and i went there

00:09:32.200 two years that's like in phoenix and he just we did not fit in right my wife and i are typically

00:09:37.300 like wearing all black or something and yeah you know there's everyone there is like a kimberly 0.83

00:09:41.680 guilfoyle cookie cutter yeah and then you know i so i didn't really like get along with that kind

00:09:46.720 of crowd there but they were very nice he was extremely nice and he had a good sense of humor

00:09:50.840 different thing right dude we he had just i just remember him having a good sense of humor

00:09:54.340 my limited experience with him personally like in person we were laughing about just getting

00:09:59.020 fatter than we should have been after having kids yeah he was a new dad i think in 2021 or sometime

00:10:04.000 maybe 2022 and his like suit was just like nothing right i'm saying we're backstage and it was just

00:10:09.120 we were laughing about it yeah you know and i don't i'll never forget that you know i remember

00:10:13.100 him having a good humor and then i think of all these people now who say they were his friends

00:10:17.340 and i understand they're hurt in different ways obviously this is insane but they're like a lot

00:10:21.220 of them become like puritanical you can't joke about anything um and this dude had the south

00:10:26.100 park thing as his profile picture yeah he was leaning into it but yeah so i didn't listen to

00:10:30.200 him at all you know until afterwards and i was like i just kind of want to see what he was saying

00:10:33.680 he did have good arguments and so when i see someone like andrew wilson doing his thing i'm

00:10:38.280 like that is the exact opposite of the kind of debate charlie charlie had compassion humor and

00:10:43.380 he never like it never seemed like he got under his skin right you know like andrew has very thin

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00:11:35.480 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it and when i was talking about free speech 0.97

00:11:40.740 and flag burning he immediately started equating that with like the right to have butt sex or 0.97

00:11:44.480 something that's what he was saying those are his words i'm like no no i wasn't i wasn't talking 0.98

00:11:48.220 about that at all i'm talking about like smedley butler the marine who hated war and had been to

00:11:53.820 many wars and was saying like we have the right to protest this stuff wrote a book called wars

00:11:58.500 racket and he's like i don't know about marines who protest wars i'm like well i'm just giving

00:12:02.500 you an example right now yeah he was a pretty big deal he blew the whistle on the business plot you

00:12:06.040 guys know about that a little i'm familiar with the name smedley butler dude like they came to 0.99

00:12:10.100 him to say we want you to overthrow FDR okay he went and said I'm not doing that he was a purple

00:12:15.080 heart recipient I think multiple purple hearts so you know he he was completely like doom-pilled

00:12:20.340 on the government and the war machine that he used to fight for so I saw Andrew like dissolve

00:12:26.360 into this emotion you know and I said on that show I said they said something to me like well

00:12:30.640 flag burning is not that effective I'm like it seems pretty effective to me because you all are

00:12:33.360 very emotional right like look how everyone's acting and uh they didn't like that you know and

00:12:38.200 I was in a room where a lot of, no one agreed, you know, and that's fine.

00:12:41.260 That was a lot of your downfall.

00:12:43.460 Tim wasn't even on that show.

00:12:44.940 No, but I just mean in general, I mean, you know, that's in a way that this is what Owen

00:12:48.400 Benjamin does the best.

00:12:49.400 And this is, I think, uh, I've taken a note from his, from his playbook.

00:12:53.420 You find somebody's sacred cow.

00:12:55.380 And once you find that, and most people, I mean, the sacred cow for Andrew Wilson is

00:12:59.820 right behind you.

00:13:00.620 Yeah.

00:13:00.840 Yeah.

00:13:00.980 Like images like that will throw people like him, Jay Dyer, whatever, into a tizzo spiral.

00:13:05.800 It's like, that's just a piece of paper.

00:13:07.520 like this is just a depiction of a picture so it's like okay i have your number now right you

00:13:11.380 you effectively can't really do anything around here yeah and owen will pick that golden calf

00:13:16.860 yeah whatever that is for you until it's done until it's done and i love that about him because

00:13:21.180 like you i don't care you can do anything like you say anything you want i've had the threats i've

00:13:25.280 had the things you control me i have ben shapiro's eyebrows my forehead is mutant i grew up on a

00:13:30.440 landfill like i totally get it and that's all fair game i i love that i grew up loving roast comedy

00:13:36.040 absolutely i love don rickles you know i love watching them and sammy davis jr like

00:13:40.340 real racist jokes in the 60s you know like yeah and it was all good even reagan like i'm not a

00:13:46.780 fan it wasn't even that long ago that that the 60s is one thing but we had chapelle show early

00:13:51.720 2000s and it felt like this was this moment we were all laughing at each other right and ourselves

00:13:56.720 you know nobody was uh off limits every race and and you know i whatever it was everybody got it

00:14:02.380 Yeah. And and it felt like we had a real moment there for a second.

00:14:05.520 And then, like, yeah, I mean, it's strange because as a millennial, I was raised on that as a child. 0.89

00:14:10.080 We used to watch that in my house and me and my mom would make, you know, Rick James jokes and shit. 0.71

00:14:14.640 And then it was really like the millennials that grew up and took positions in, you know, 0.95

00:14:19.820 corporatocracy and all this other crap where, like, we start pushing for H.R.

00:14:25.400 And then it bleeds out into Internet culture or vice versa. 0.95

00:14:28.820 And then that whole culture bleeds out into the rest of the world.

00:14:31.380 i really don't understand that phenomenon because we were raised with south park we were raised with

00:14:37.200 chapelle's show you would think overexposure would have resulted in the opposite that's why they had

00:14:41.840 to go after comedy first in my opinion you know i remember watching them go after like louis ck

00:14:46.260 i like yeah i like louis i remember when he they went after him there was like a lead-up to that 0.73

00:14:51.180 happening there was like rumors that this might happen i'm like just because he jerked off in 0.98

00:14:54.340 front of somebody that said go ahead jerk off in front of me which also i don't agree with that 0.98

00:14:57.840 like just don't do that even if they say yeah like it's your own thing okay yeah yeah i don't 0.97

00:15:02.060 agree with uh he's got to give him that caveat right right they said go ahead i keep telling

00:15:05.520 him no and it's i know you guys they're not they're not wearing pants can you guys see this

00:15:09.940 right now it is a small room very uncomfortable back here um but i i saw i saw the lead up to

00:15:14.720 that in these rumors i'm like man they're gonna go after like he was at the top of his game you

00:15:18.000 know huge huge uh comedian at that time that's scary for the rest of comedy when they see that

00:15:22.700 and it was because the comedians are on the front lines of this war yeah you know and i mean that's

00:15:27.000 i mean we go back to louis a good example owen is the better example because what they did to him

00:15:31.640 but they tried to do it to aziz and aziz didn't even do any i'm not even an aziz fan but the guy

00:15:36.040 just like was a little bit forward with a date or something like that redemption arc is funny though

00:15:40.000 because now snl needs an indian to play uh cash patel there you go so they're like you're okay

00:15:46.180 now we can bring you back which is funny but uh they had to go after comedy because the comedians

00:15:49.900 poked the holes in all the narratives yeah and so whenever that was maybe 15 years ago with louis

00:15:53.880 12 years ago they took him out and then after that it was like everything and they also at the same

00:15:58.260 time made politics the golden calf you're talking about so like that became the religion for all

00:16:02.640 these people left and right what they also did and the left with louis i remember at the time

00:16:06.640 because i was a big louis fan um he created this huge email list and effectively he was like more

00:16:12.580 prosperous than he was before because now he's charging people and i was like 12 a month or

00:16:17.300 something he created that like subscription plan idea before there were there was infrastructure

00:16:21.500 and i was one of the people and they subscribed to i was too i was yeah his show was great like

00:16:26.160 the tv show oh it was great super surreal really funny oh dude the whole my favorite jokes i think

00:16:32.840 it's about florida too i forget how it went but it's something like there's a hurricane that

00:16:35.960 happened it killed like a million people but lebron james you know and it's like they just

00:16:40.920 grieve about lebron not a million people so good it was such a good show but that's what happened

00:16:46.100 you know i think when i look at this stuff and see people who have uh forgot about comedy and

00:16:50.740 how fun it is and how when you laugh with each other you come together better oh yeah yeah when

00:16:54.960 you're roasting each other you're like friends like a real good friends like my dad roasting my

00:16:58.680 whole life yeah i i and that's a good bond it is to have when you can and you learn how to my son

00:17:03.880 does it to me constantly constantly constantly he rips me every once in a while he stings me

00:17:08.500 yeah that's good because they know they know exactly where to hit that it's funny because

00:17:13.040 comedy became very gay after that where it was like the comedians that were finding success i

00:17:17.800 mean there was a lot of people that were attached to the rogan sphere who found success and i'm not

00:17:21.300 saying that those guys were funny or unfunny but there was like that real hard edge went away and

00:17:27.260 then there was kind of certain things that you could joke about you know if you wanted to make 0.98

00:17:30.580 a joke about like being gay or being curious about what dick tastes like that was totally on the 0.99

00:17:35.500 table right but you couldn't do any race shit right you know so it was like this weird thing 0.99

00:17:38.880 that had a perception of being edgy but it wasn't a real edge because there was a lot of territory 0.94

00:17:42.900 that they weren't willing to go yeah i think the edgy stuff today is the stuff where it's like

00:17:46.480 everyone seems like they're protected yeah there's a protect new protected class there's a billion

00:17:50.160 protected classes and it's on the left and the right and how dare you make fun of us you know

00:17:54.220 we're the truth seekers now so like you know if you make fun of andrew wilson or anyone like that

00:17:58.800 or like crowder you know like to me sneaking anyone into someone's house is an insane situation

00:18:04.780 if you follow that story with like the steven crowder guy going to candace's house for the

00:18:08.540 debate no no what was that i just i saw steven crowder was dressed like a woman was that ai that

00:18:13.880 was years ago i posted that yesterday so i'll get to that but that is true that is real every

00:18:18.020 source says it's real yeah uh no it's real um he went out of his way to dress like that like a lot

00:18:25.620 like many times yeah like i know i was looking for him in a blonde wig to make a rachel wilson

00:18:30.200 comparison and i knew i could just search that because he had an array of ways he couldn't find

00:18:35.420 he couldn't find the blonde because there was just oh there's so many dude literally everything he 0.51

00:18:39.700 loves dressing up but um so according to candace like they you know they had this debate and they

00:18:46.160 were trying to get a hold of andrew and his team to see the name to get the name so the people

00:18:49.340 were coming to her house for this okay i think that's totally legit that's fine you know i would

00:18:52.940 do the same you want to know my castle especially especially after all the things that have happened

00:18:56.960 to everybody sure right and the threats and so they they were kind of like from what i understand

00:19:01.220 not getting names to her in time so her security could do whatever they did and then when they

00:19:06.160 showed up one of the guys on andrew's team was the guy from crowder show okay um and they obviously

00:19:12.860 they have a long history of beef and the sharing of the ring camera so she goes i think she was

00:19:18.660 pleasant okay but weirded out you know and that they kind of did this thing where they're live

00:19:22.940 streaming from her garage which was like a kid's playroom i don't know all the details on that but

00:19:26.740 i would not be cool with that i would want to know who's coming to my house absolutely i would

00:19:31.280 want to know um if anybody i've had major beef with publicly um who's also been screaming that 0.70

00:19:37.320 i'm a cunt on his show yeah is sending someone into my house insane to me so that's when i posted 0.82

00:19:43.260 the image of a crowder in a blonde wig saying you know steven crowder thought he could sneak 0.98

00:19:48.100 into candace's house dressed as rachel wilson uh it's uncanny honestly but i just think that's

00:19:55.340 that's bad behavior and like you care more about like pranks and clicks than a like we could have

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00:20:48.640 it you know i don't subscribe to any theory when it comes to charlie something happened right and

00:20:53.400 there's something nefarious and it's a lot of weird questions i don't think it's um nice and

00:20:57.660 neat and clean and wrapped up with a bow like that that i don't believe at all no and i also have to

00:21:02.100 like remind myself that i have a confirmation bias when it comes to high profile public like

00:21:06.040 political assassinations yeah because they're all weird sure so when i see this like maybe this one

00:21:10.500 isn't you know but i think it is you know like we said this is a pattern this is like a modern day

00:21:14.780 jfk assassination where there's so many elements that are bizarre and maybe some of them are let's

00:21:20.080 say rabbit holes that come to a dead end pretty quickly but they're still there yeah and there's

00:21:24.220 on an array of them we have every right to question what's going on there and like what

00:21:28.720 i mean there's a little things like it just weirded me out the second i saw cash keep saying 33

00:21:33.140 i'm like why it's weird with the whole valhalla thing that was weird and that's nothing like that

00:21:37.480 really is nothing well isn't it strange that tyler robinson had that image on his pc and that image

00:21:42.440 is of goat island and goat island has a place called valhalla something or another like that's

00:21:47.200 all very strange oh that's weird and those are just little like it's minutiae yes but it when

00:21:51.300 you all this adds up like the guy we're talking about the degraded fingerprints yeah pictures in

00:21:56.040 the stairway removing the the grass and then putting pavers there the screwdriver it was 33

00:22:00.980 hours that they saw it right he said record time yes okay yeah i remember that that's the second

00:22:05.420 he came out with that i'm like oh god the next day uh the university made a payment to you know

00:22:11.240 whatever kind of company that was going to come in and take the grass out and so the next day

00:22:15.580 you are already making a payment and that's going to destroy whatever potential evidence they made

00:22:20.020 a payment to repave on 9-11 yeah it was on 9-11 yeah never forget that's crazy it's too much

00:22:27.720 there is too much yeah and also they sold the car he died in what like immediately like it was

00:22:33.020 auctioned off like i think within a few weeks if maybe because they ate him in that car and yeah

00:22:37.180 i mean i just posted i just published a story yesterday about um there's these scientists

00:22:43.380 remember otzi the mummy they found he's like a 5 000 year old mummy in like the alps like who

00:22:48.120 knows oh is that yeah he looks all weird they say he killed got killed in the back somebody

00:22:51.780 reconstituted him with ai and he looks like uh nicholas cage is that yeah yeah yeah um so the

00:22:57.180 scientists that have him discovered that he has yeast in his corpse ah sourdough they made sour

00:23:04.260 oh come on they did i saw that they ate it and they were like it is very good dude it's insane

00:23:11.000 there he is that's a joke i made a joke they did it they did that people were people were commenting

00:23:16.280 on the story yesterday like oh owen might be onto something i'm like yeah well we did it at bro

00:23:20.720 grove we had him and dr heather lynn sit up there that hasn't aired yeah that's gonna be a i don't

00:23:24.640 even know how we're gonna air that i'm excited to air it i don't know what we're gonna do but

00:23:28.280 um i mean we should air it on twitter for sure i think there's no kind of category or catalog

00:23:32.900 we accidentally walked my father-in-law he came just to show up to support the and uh we're going

00:23:38.440 on about cannibalism and charlie kirk and he's like that's enough and he's like walks out the

00:23:42.600 room but dr heather lynn is fantastic she's going through all the anthropological precedents for

00:23:47.100 ritualistic cannibalism and it's like okay this is a real thing that is still happening today

00:23:52.040 i'm completely open to anyone questioning and saying anything they want yeah you know and i

00:23:56.500 knew charlie to some degree right and like i there's i made a joke about charlie before he

00:24:00.960 died about him getting a pager from israel i hope the jokes about me if anything ever happens to me

00:24:05.820 never stop i hope everything that people say right now is what they continue to say and i hope that

00:24:11.760 honestly if a couple of conspiracies come out of it too let's go all i could ask for is that if

00:24:16.400 everyone could have a lot of sparklers and fireworks please yeah a lot of glittery i would

00:24:20.840 like for every time brohemia and grove happens we it starts with an homage to to you know the

00:24:26.760 recently deceased raven and top bursts up out of the stage you know where it's like that platform

00:24:31.560 that rises and it shoots you up in the air and the spring yeah that's what i want yeah i want to

00:24:36.340 have my funeral in front of abrahamian grove that would be nice and everybody take a picture with

00:24:40.300 my hands i would like for you to venerate my skull uh and every bro grove carried around with you

00:24:46.380 this is the exact kind of conversation i would have in florida every time because my grandfather

00:24:51.700 was a hearse driver okay so like a lot of my dark humor comes from him of course he was right right

00:24:57.700 um you know he he had a hilarious sense of humor he'd be like you know like there's um they're 80

00:25:03.180 years old and they're having a double date and like the ladies are sitting in the back of the

00:25:05.760 seat and turn around be like can you lay down i'm not used to um sitting up in the back but he was

00:25:11.260 he was a sick man but we would talk forever uh since i was like maybe 18 up until he died when

00:25:16.900 i was his birthday um my birthday was on his funeral i turned i turned 30 which he would

00:25:21.520 have thought was hilarious yeah and it was and uh but we always talked about dream generals you

00:25:26.020 like how do you yeah i tried to convince his little neighborhood down near delray that i could uh do

00:25:31.060 a viking funeral in the in the lake okay yeah yeah they didn't let it happen so i just ended up

00:25:34.980 burning a lot of things from his garage and throwing it in uh with my sisters yeah it was

00:25:39.140 cool it's also i should say really quick it's my mom's birthday and she watches you guys every now

00:25:43.140 and then no wow she thought you know she thought you guys were a gay couple at first but um they

00:25:47.860 might be honestly but they love you guys shout out to mama cashman she's she's the best and uh

00:25:54.260 it's awesome i was just thinking about real quick story uh that was so insane as we're going down

00:25:58.580 the dark path um on her birthday when i was going to high school my mom was a bus driver

00:26:04.180 for a little bit and so she went to do the bus we had this new dog that we heard that we got

00:26:08.820 uh on the 13th it happened to friday the 13th okay there you go my sister my middle sister randy

00:26:14.260 named it jinx on friday the 13th nothing about sheen's life surprises so it's so on brand remember

00:26:19.940 we're on a farm at the bottom of a landfill no neighbors and we've always had dogs my mom and

00:26:25.940 dad were also like dog catchers for a little bit okay so like we'd go around and like either scrape

00:26:29.940 up uh cats and dogs yeah early memories of me and my mom's back like in a backpack of her like

00:26:35.460 scraping dead animals i can smell it still i can also smell the incinerator where we used to put

00:26:40.660 them wow but um she she goes to drive the bus she goes to drive the bus so she leaves early with my

00:26:51.300 two sisters my two little sisters and my dad and i are home my dad's like you know what

00:26:54.820 i'm letting jinx out no leash he's only been with us for five days that's not a good idea

00:26:59.540 and there's a lot of property we didn't own the property but it was like my parents managed it

00:27:02.820 okay so he's gone gone yeah and uh we search and search and uh i had to go to my job i was a house

00:27:09.780 painter at the time and uh dad's like i didn't think that was gonna he called the cops he called

00:27:14.300 the cops he's like we have a lost dog yeah we don't know what's gonna happen and uh they send

00:27:19.060 out a dispatch they call the cops and then we get a phone call being like we're sending an officer

00:27:23.180 to your house um he'll be there shortly by the time the officer comes my mom's back this episode

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00:28:17.240 And he gets out of his car with a garbage bag. 0.97

00:28:20.940 He's like, I shot him.

00:28:22.460 Dude, you've been on point today.

00:28:24.200 Are you on point today?

00:28:26.460 Okay, not that exactly, but you got it. 0.63

00:28:28.840 Was your dog black?

00:28:31.520 He couldn't breathe.

00:28:32.800 It was so bad.

00:28:34.340 We had riots.

00:28:35.400 We burnt the whole town down.

00:28:36.720 No, he got the call.

00:28:38.820 And he went out of his, where he was parked down the road from us, actually, at this restaurant.

00:28:43.140 He hit and killed a dog.

00:28:44.540 Oh, my God.

00:28:45.520 In my memory, this is like a good example of how I can exaggerate things.

00:28:48.660 In my memory, he had two garbage bags.

00:28:50.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:51.300 But my parents say he was only one.

00:28:52.620 I don't know if they're right.

00:28:53.380 It was a clean cut.

00:28:54.300 I thought it was a clean cut.

00:28:55.400 He's like, which dog is yours?

00:28:56.840 So that's my mom's birthday.

00:28:58.140 And I hear Jinx, who provided the 13th, got murdered by the cops.

00:29:02.500 Unbelievable. 1.00

00:29:02.980 He was sort of black. 1.00

00:29:03.920 He was half, you know. 1.00

00:29:04.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:29:05.520 Actually, come and think of it. 1.00

00:29:06.700 That's why they might have been half. 1.00

00:29:07.080 Yeah.

00:29:07.280 we kept a good half yeah yeah happy birthday mom we incinerated happy birthday oh my goodness man

00:29:16.100 they actually asked uh last time i was with them i saw them recently and uh they were asking when

00:29:20.100 i'm gonna be back on you guys that's so funny yeah yeah they they love you right now somebody

00:29:24.440 yeah right now every once in a while somebody uh who likes this show you know just the character

00:29:29.720 of who likes the show makes me go what like every once in a while i have a pastor that's like i love

00:29:33.340 show i go what yeah my dad is like the kind of like the fox five watcher okay but growing up

00:29:39.820 he would we only had like six or seven channels and he would yeah this is like an early example

00:29:43.900 of me learning about fake realities he would be like let's go to channel two channel four channel

00:29:48.780 five great all these news people are in different worlds they're talking about the same thing same

00:29:53.660 subjects different language though like same language but different opinions about it absolutely

00:29:57.820 and i'm like that's that's interesting so it's a really early lesson but now i go and see him he

00:30:02.220 He might not like that I say this, but since you guys are watching,

00:30:05.320 his history on his YouTube was Candice Drewski.

00:30:10.240 That's so funny, dude.

00:30:11.820 And guys cleaning rugs.

00:30:13.980 Oh, I love those.

00:30:15.300 Oh, yeah, I love those.

00:30:16.080 Dude, my blood pressure is phenomenal after watching like five hours of that.

00:30:20.240 There's the guys cleaning rugs. 0.99

00:30:21.640 There's the hydraulic press crushing shit. 0.99

00:30:23.720 I really appreciate that as well. 1.00

00:30:25.360 I also like watching Indonesian dudes build huts and stuff. 1.00

00:30:28.280 Have you guys seen the maggots, how long it takes maggots to eat anything?

00:30:31.520 oh i've seen that i've seen the time lapse sometimes yeah yeah but maggots don't eat

00:30:35.400 anything yeah it's easy sometimes i like watching the bug wars they'll put like they'll have a tank

00:30:40.360 and it'll be like a praying mantis and a you know a big spider and then the praying mantis

00:30:44.400 pretty much undefeated but what does that tell you about your dad like is he perusing candace

00:30:48.440 yeah and drewski yeah i don't know about drewski but he has been watching uh old candace videos

00:30:53.480 like it's not even if he's watching new candace he's like he just stumbled upon it somehow the

00:30:57.320 algorithm fed them this and it's like i think it's like his her prager show wow but she was

00:31:01.860 debating like black lives matter oh yeah and he was like this is like i don't think he knows like

00:31:05.960 who she is or like what's going on outside of this stuff sure it was amazing i'm like really

00:31:09.880 dad okay and he was like i'm into this yeah i'm like good what do you think about what do you

00:31:15.220 think about the um wait till you hear about the jews i'm just gonna get there somewhere after

00:31:21.300 Drew ski is the juice. It's the gateway drug. Uh, yeah. Here we go. So, so what do you think 0.97

00:31:27.800 about this whole thing with Candace where she's talking about, I just like the idea of him going

00:31:31.540 back to his dad and he's just like, you see this tattoo? It means not welcome. We're just curb

00:31:36.500 stopping people. So when Candace is going off and she's talking about Charlie being in the gate

00:31:43.860 program and the lights, uh, having it, you know, as he passes under the street lamps, the lights

00:31:48.860 are flickering and turning on and off and i mean what was what do you make of that yeah that's like

00:31:52.680 a that to me is a complete detraction from like if tim hears that oh yeah yeah but it's like

00:32:00.780 everything else she's saying is very true and for us i want to eat that stuff up because it's like

00:32:04.220 very possible i have no problem with her saying well i've studied a lot of those documents like

00:32:08.980 that the government has funded sure you know like they are into remote viewing and there's a lot of

00:32:13.380 stuff theologically that i think is wrong to entertain you know like a lot of that psychic

00:32:17.920 driving stuff sure sure sure the wizardry is as owen would put it all that stuff is is wrong in

00:32:23.740 my opinion that's why the government does it but they are uh focused around a real phenomenon right

00:32:28.060 it's just their interpretation of it it's just funny to me when people are into entertaining

00:32:32.180 certain theories that are i think harebrained and they will immediately mock other ones like i think 0.95

00:32:38.400 and i've said this so many times i think the pole shifting is stupid oh the magnetic kind of yeah 0.93

00:32:43.480 right where they're saying it's going to pole shift like the turn upside down do you know where 0.99

00:32:46.180 that really comes from predominantly alien abductee victims are told this by grays and 0.99

00:32:51.280 shit and then told that they have to evangelize and come back and there's a lot of things that 0.98

00:32:55.640 we have to do to try to overcome that like raise our vibrational frequency and shit and it always 1.00

00:33:00.100 is a company with like gnosticism like you know they'll give them nonsense they'll call them 0.56

00:33:04.040 special and they'll send them off and they're to evangelize on behalf of that yeah and it seems

00:33:07.620 like a religion it's the premise of the telepathy tapes oh interesting in a big way yeah interesting

00:33:12.400 you know who else uh is really worried about that elon musk well everything he says is a lie

00:33:17.280 well he he wants it that's part of why he wants to go to mars he says i don't think the moon would

00:33:20.780 be far enough to to avoid something like uh so yeah i agree with you because before it was the

00:33:26.000 magnetic polar shift it was uh global warming it was uh you know over pollution exactly whatever

00:33:33.800 it was yeah they've been giving abductee victims a horror story about a coming apocalypse scenario

00:33:39.820 video forever and it always changes the pole shift thing is like climate alarmism for podcast

00:33:44.340 bros yes you know and i just think it's silly because i also they they bring up numbers i don't

00:33:49.060 believe in you know when it comes to like the age of the earth and all these things like i just look

00:33:52.420 i don't know the age i i'm around the young earth 6 000 years yeah yeah but i'm open to it because

00:33:57.180 there's other people who are like apologists like old men you know who are scientists but also very

00:34:01.920 christian who have very interesting interesting interpretations of just like creation and what

00:34:06.060 the timeline is i'm open to all those conversations i'm not really locked in on one age but i don't

00:34:10.680 believe in billions and billions of years sure i don't believe in lots of space yeah i think

00:34:14.200 something's up there we got a guy uh ed mabry um who's a real fascinating character he's been on

00:34:19.040 our show more than any other guest and uh one of the things that he presents right behind me is oh

00:34:24.320 there he is dr mabry yes uh one of the things that he presents that really puts a hole in carbon

00:34:28.540 dating is the idea that the speed of light is actually degrading and that would have a tremendous

00:34:32.960 effect on what we look at when we look at carbon dating. Because if the speed of light was

00:34:38.820 exponentially faster in the past, then things that seem to be very old would actually be much

00:34:44.540 closer. The way he describes it. His theory is interesting. He describes it through

00:34:48.540 dispensationalism, which he's not a fan of in the current terms, like as far as Darby goes.

00:34:55.240 But every time a major cataclysm or event happens, humans are kicked out of the garden,

00:35:00.680 the law is created jesus is killed the holy spirit is presented the prophets are dealing

00:35:05.060 with the people instead of uh god himself that's a disposition and he's like dispensation dispensation

00:35:11.300 dispensation if you go back to that time period there's a mark uh there's a there's a like actual

00:35:17.300 i forget how he explains it but you can see that there's like a half-life between the speed of

00:35:21.760 light then and then like that dispensation happens then there's a half-life that happens and then

00:35:26.400 amazing yeah the speed of light is slowed and slowed and slowed yeah it's like if god is right

00:35:31.640 right is that light we're actually getting further away from him so when you're in closer proximity

00:35:36.980 to it it you know has a more dramatic effect but if you're further away from it that's what you're

00:35:42.160 seeing and all so i mean if that's true then the whole carbon dating thing which is what they hang

00:35:46.180 their hats on a lot when it comes to the great theory at the very least it's a sexy one i don't

00:35:50.200 believe in the carbon dating seems like a joke to me yeah all the science is uh trying to divorce

00:35:55.240 you from god i think science could obviously could be good but like it used to be a way of

00:35:59.940 understanding god sure science has become a thing a religion where it's trying to redefine or become

00:36:04.340 god yeah and so they you know the atomic age and whenever that started to pop off with the atom

00:36:10.240 bombs if you believe in those or just the idea of the atom bomb um people back then started to

00:36:15.160 or actually believed a lot that the earth was young and then after that it's like incrementally

00:36:20.500 the the earth the earth gets older and older and older and which is a to me a departure uh from

00:36:25.800 god a manufactured departure from god by the narrative engineers well that's the thing is

00:36:29.520 the the industries or uh the institutions rather that are feeding you this information are like

00:36:34.800 they're they're uh you know untrustworthy yeah if you look at them they're caught lying over and

00:36:39.160 over again and then it's just like well science hasn't caught up to it or whatever the case may 0.92

00:36:42.040 be but that's why when people talk about flat earth i go like yeah man nasa lies a shit ton

00:36:46.880 and then like so much of our ideas of of the globe come from hollywood as well which is the

00:36:52.540 propaganda machine so if these are our two institutions that are feeding us uh you know

00:36:56.860 the the concrete evidence for the nature of the realm that we inhabit like i love telling people

00:37:01.520 and they get upset about nasa and me calling on nasa especially who the hell gets upset oh dude

00:37:06.220 it's that's another religion yeah i guess yeah yeah people love they see that as like american

00:37:10.620 like greatness you know we can go to the moon that's really it's really german greatness

00:37:15.020 you love nazis oh that's cool yeah you're into like vernon braun what do they do about that

00:37:20.840 ssa nasa yeah yeah yeah that's right vernon braun dude i mean david forgets crazy because we're in

00:37:26.980 this ecosystem where yeah crazy people come in here and then even crazier people go to the back

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00:38:21.080 you're going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it is completely the opposite

00:38:26.900 of what we're doing what a hard place to exist in uh who was it somebody said it and i think it was

00:38:32.600 jay dyer and i don't know he could have been quoting somebody but this is a really great um

00:38:37.000 thing that he said here it was that uh politics is the religion of the midwit and and once you

00:38:45.220 turn it into an idol then for sure i would agree with that you know to observe politics and what's

00:38:49.840 going on is not but to make it your religion to make it your idol yeah i think that is a game for

00:38:54.400 midwits that's i think that might be fair to say and i just you know it's not even this isn't even

00:38:58.400 like shade to tim or anything that's going on over there i just find that place for me personally

00:39:02.800 an insufferable space to exist in yeah i would never be able to do that and i you and i are on

00:39:08.480 very much the same wavelength that seems like a hard place i mean all the wonderful people you

00:39:13.360 met how the hell did you do that for so long uh i love doing it you know tim's show is the hardest

00:39:18.760 show i've done of all the shows just because it's a panel yeah and there's a guest who's who's

00:39:24.220 obviously vying to do whatever you know sell something whatever which is fine you know and

00:39:29.000 there's a lot of people trying to talk and there's a lot of people who do that show who are the type

00:39:33.260 of person who like don't talk to you they talk to the camera right that's weird i've seen like a lot

00:39:38.700 and i'm like i'm right here you're addressing me but you're talking you're you're talking about me

00:39:45.000 but you're addressing the camera behind me like that's weird to me um but i also love it you know

00:39:49.820 i love being in the environment and talking about that kind of stuff i've always been interested in

00:39:53.520 it but in the book in the in the good villains like towards the end of that book i talk about

00:39:58.800 how i so nancy does a lot my wife does all these events right and she was uh hired to do this crazy

00:40:05.840 event in dc the night before the inauguration this last one and it was like a tiktok party

00:40:10.460 to celebrate influencers and um exciting walk a flock of flame performed okay like by tiktok

00:40:17.460 itself yeah oh which was funny because they were being banned at the time huh i was confused because

00:40:22.380 said walk-a-flock i was like wait the real walk-a-flock of flame was there and tick tock and

00:40:27.260 all this stuff but all these influencers like all the the people right and had banners for them and

00:40:32.300 they were celebrating them and it was people like i just know sort of maybe from doing the show or

00:40:37.580 just know from twitter a lot of them are some of those people who you heard being at like that

00:40:41.340 weird meeting where they're trying to struggle session charlie on long island you know like

00:40:44.620 they were like about the israel stuff there's a whole thing about charlie going out to the hamptons

00:40:48.300 and uh oh right right right right everyone's there like he was debating about the israel

00:40:52.780 all this stuff this is kind of all there he was first kind of expressing as far as we know yeah

00:40:57.500 yeah and uh at least maybe not even expressing but at that point learning how to debate the whole

00:41:01.900 thing yeah you know uh which he was good at doing because he was always like um from what i can tell

00:41:06.460 uh testing like the immune system of whatever idea right so if we have a ton of people surrounding

00:41:11.420 me who don't agree i can kind of sharpen my yes yeah yeah argument so i'm at this party and uh

00:41:18.300 i'm thinking these people won right they're guys in and how are they going to pivot from being the

00:41:26.140 dissident voices from the past five years against biden against the establishment questioning the

00:41:30.660 science to now being the cheerleaders yeah are they going to be uh true to their nature like

00:41:36.200 it's okay to celebrate the win becoming part of the establishment and i think i was pretty right

00:41:40.160 because i've seen binders happen like in a month or two that was horrible horrible mistake terrible

00:41:45.840 to reduce it was to reduce the most nefarious one of the most nefarious crimes yeah against kids

00:41:51.600 against humanity manufacturing wars to a prop a photo people are dancing and i used to write to

00:41:57.540 one of those people on her sub stack and like she went off the deep end you know because she had to

00:42:01.860 defend the administration because she was addicted to her access yeah she was allowed to be part of 1.00

00:42:06.640 the administration in that in that in your opinion why after like after that's a nothing burger and

00:42:11.080 this is an obvious embarrassment yeah why do they still cling to the narrative and still defend it

00:42:17.080 because it became their identity to me it's like the same way a parent who allowed their kids to

00:42:21.700 harm themselves by transing them you know has to like there's a stubbornness like if i say this is 0.74

00:42:27.000 wrong then i basically sacrifice my kid it's i think a similar mindset like if i say i'm wrong 0.98

00:42:31.560 now i've sacrificed everything because it's their identity that's a lot of what creates the whole

00:42:35.720 sort of anti-vaxxer thing and people become so aggressive about anybody who should be concerned

00:42:42.260 about the nature of vaccines it's just crazy you have to admit then that you're complicit

00:42:46.520 and and we all are to some degree right i mean whether we had it when we were kids or yeah um

00:42:51.460 but yeah you you partook in a thing that might be one of the worst things yeah but it's it's 0.92

00:42:56.800 different it's different than the mom that trans is her kid because they're steeped in this culture

00:43:01.620 and they they've seen it intimately with the other side yeah so then to go and do it yourself is like

00:43:06.580 a level of not just irresponsibility but like evil it's admitting that you were evil yeah yeah and i

00:43:11.420 think a lot of those people on the right or the so-called independent ones the sub stackers the

00:43:15.640 youtubers whatever it is the rumble stuff they are so ingrained in having um their direct access

00:43:21.540 to these people that they'll do anything yeah you know some of them i think will have or will break

00:43:26.420 away i i haven't seen a lot of it but like i i just i knew i'll never i could never do that like

00:43:32.120 i'll cheer for the wins if there are any i haven't seen much except you know i do like trump banning

00:43:36.380 all roombas uh all foreign roombas have been banned i wish we could do domestic as well yeah

00:43:41.320 the foreign ones he did ban foreign roombas i wish you could just do what's your gripe with

00:43:44.880 roombas hate robots yeah okay that's fair yeah you strike me as a not in my house kind of a guy

00:43:50.120 in my house yeah imagine if you have any kind of siri or alexa or anything like that i don't have

00:43:54.360 but no, I don't have that.

00:43:55.280 I mean, I turned off Sierra on my phone.

00:43:57.480 I do use Grok.

00:43:59.900 I'll ask it questions, but it lies all the time.

00:44:01.640 It does.

00:44:02.000 Like it hallucinates.

00:44:02.760 It's terrible at its job.

00:44:03.820 ChatGPT does the exact same thing.

00:44:05.300 I haven't used that one.

00:44:05.600 Dude, let me tell you,

00:44:06.220 I've got people that I love dearly

00:44:08.140 that are like routinely going for medical advice.

00:44:11.260 They're going for psychological analysis

00:44:13.040 because, you know, whatever, I guess.

00:44:15.160 It'll get you close.

00:44:16.200 Like I was doing something.

00:44:17.400 Yeah, but you do it for technical things.

00:44:20.220 How do I get this?

00:44:20.920 And it's still wrong.

00:44:21.500 Yeah, and it's still wrong.

00:44:22.260 like i was i was looking for uh a specific guitar uh like a preset sort of thing like uh

00:44:28.700 two amps and two cabs and what i would need to create a specific sound it got real close and i

00:44:34.440 go that's not the amp and it goes oh yeah that isn't it's this one i'm like chat gpt and grok

00:44:39.820 are basically andrew wilson where they say it with a lot of confidence but like under scrutiny

00:44:44.500 you go this is not true it's not true i've seen it live so much even little things like little

00:44:48.220 details like having been a grandson of a hearse driver i know how graves work in florida right

00:44:53.260 a lot of people can't be buried underground anymore oh because of the water so because

00:44:57.420 there's been so many floods people because i noticed there's not a lot of uh where are we

00:45:01.240 gonna put all these old people yeah i know this is what adolph said this is crazy i think uh what

00:45:06.940 what is it um there's a really nice place not morocco uh where were they gonna send all the

00:45:12.320 first it was like there was this idea of oh yeah yeah tanzania morocco uh some really fantastic

00:45:19.600 sounding that's what lincoln was gonna do with the blacks is that true they had a tanzania not

00:45:23.740 tanzania but they had a um a politician at the time saying we should send them all back to another 0.89

00:45:27.700 place yeah they were gonna call it lincolnia lincolnia hell yeah it's pretty sick it's like

00:45:32.040 an outcast album yeah it really does sound like that but i saw this ai generated video of cemeteries

00:45:36.700 in florida and it was it looked like a cemetery in like new orleans i'm like that's not how they

00:45:40.360 are anymore you know it's been a long time yeah and also like a good example to talk like irl stuff

00:45:45.180 is um you know tim and i were getting into it once about candace because he was saying she said

00:45:49.200 something that i know she didn't say but he asked grok rock said it said it i'm like dude i know

00:45:55.300 like pull the transcript yeah that's never been said and so you have to like really pick through

00:45:59.540 it because if you just want an immediate fact check yeah it's going to confirm your bias you

00:46:03.860 can't do it on very specific stuff you can do it on loose things and you can ask for sources and

00:46:08.420 that way you can go like it's it's great i i use these things as a search excuse me search engine

00:46:13.040 so if i want to get loosely you know close to something and then i can go and verify the rest

00:46:17.720 of it for myself i'll use it's just a faster wikipedia that's all it is like you have to go

00:46:21.020 look it up and i i just can't imagine there's so many people who just it's become their best

00:46:25.100 friend or their girlfriend there are people who will marry it you know we know a guy oh my god i

00:46:29.940 do know a guy that married it and made spiritual vows to it and he's like in a deep deception he's

00:46:34.680 losing his mind he hates christianity yeah it's not grok it's uh something like an ai that he

00:46:38.780 created so it's got a face you know it looks like a woman it's got a woman's voice and all it does

00:46:43.020 is is uh echo everything he says back to him calls him a genius says it's such a profound insight

00:46:48.480 wow it's only my wife correct yeah yeah man i gotta get this for me i mean he's got two wives

00:46:53.400 he has a real wife he has a real wife and he made vows with his mouth out loud to this thing

00:46:59.580 which is like he doesn't believe in god or any of these things and if he does then maybe god is a

00:47:04.660 uh just a force in the universe right so he doesn't have a definition yeah um but i'm like

00:47:10.000 dude i i think i understand quite a bit about the spiritual realm now making vows of a spiritual

00:47:16.100 nature with your mouth to an ai uh that is sending you into psychosis is like it's a lesser it's a

00:47:22.900 demon i think it is like a lesser little g god i think it can be yeah that's exactly what it is

00:47:27.540 it probably can be other things right like i'm not saying i'm not saying the angelic realm can't

00:47:32.140 interact with technology but i'm saying that's probably far and few in between and also if it

00:47:37.280 is mirroring back your own humanity well what are we desires of the flesh and all these different

00:47:42.640 things are just getting back to us exactly so fentanyl confirmation bias what um uh so so this

00:47:48.780 whole candace uh tim thing what is the reason that he's so fixed because i can't really understand

00:47:55.880 from my own perspective if somebody was saying wild shit yeah why i would even necessarily care

00:48:00.860 that much right uh what what happened i don't know uh they are really not happy with each other 0.93

00:48:07.320 um yeah you know obviously i kind of know her a bit i know him a lot more uh because from where

00:48:12.160 i'm sitting she looks like she seems great she's very nice we've had we had an issue in the past

00:48:16.900 you know over the eliza story she hated it she wrote a did a whole video about it and but you

00:48:21.840 know other than you guys you know who were supportive you don't have to agree with the

00:48:25.160 story but like you know there's elements of it that were interesting and it's in the book but

00:48:29.100 like other than you guys she was the only person to reach out as like a real human being and be

00:48:33.700 like let's just talk about it so yeah probably like a phone call very nice it's a perfect phone

00:48:38.280 call and um i was like oh she's cool because i was a fan of hers yeah i remember like losing

00:48:42.600 friends over defending her during the riots you know in 2020 yeah i had dude in my town i had

00:48:47.920 people burning images of her like literally wow like burning like this is an evil lady i'm like

00:48:53.620 okay i've always like i liked her before can't before kanye said i like the way she thinks like 0.80

00:48:57.560 me and my wife were like she's pretty smart so that time goes by then she didn't like that video

00:49:02.980 then we had the phone call i thought she was cool and i won't forget that you know she seemed like

00:49:05.920 a real person yeah and then um instead of just taking an opportunity to make content about it

00:49:10.760 it's like you can you can actually call the person i thought that was sick you know after all the

00:49:14.660 other people in that space that were just like demonic like they were it was crazy so that 1.00

00:49:19.260 happened and then uh this lady who i was writing for who wrote a sub stack for her sub stack she

00:49:23.760 was one of the epstein binder people i everyone started doing all this stuff actually i gotta

00:49:27.940 back up because this happens afterwards crowder started calling her the c word right i don't

00:49:32.240 even like using these words i've been trying not to curse it's it's very hard because i i love to

00:49:35.780 curse but it's uh something i've been trying my favorite things to do it's it's amazing it feels

00:49:39.180 great it's like an exclamation point you know very cathartic baked into the word but um crowder

00:49:44.300 was saying that and i'm like so i just kind of tweeted out what i just told you about me and her

00:49:48.840 having that issue the phone call you know i think it's ridiculous also grown men should act like 1.00

00:49:52.680 that okay and um this lady i wrote for took that as a slight against her because she didn't like

00:49:58.260 candace i didn't i wasn't thinking about this lady i had written for her in a while she ghosted me

00:50:02.420 um we later found out that she had been told if you publish stories like mine and other people

00:50:06.560 who were writing for her she wouldn't have access anymore so that was happening so complicated and

00:50:11.640 these people are super crazy i don't like that i've come to terms of told me that's that i don't

00:50:17.400 know if you remember that like last year on christmas i was uh oh yeah oh yeah i saw that

00:50:21.120 whole thing going i'm trying to watch the best christmas pageant ever and uh sorry which is a

00:50:25.700 great movie and i just checked in i'm like oh look at top and everyone getting tim like it's christmas 0.81

00:50:30.260 guys the idea that we don't have a too retarded to stop sign in here yeah that is a that's a that's 0.85

00:50:35.780 a real travesty so this lady who i wasn't even thinking about took my tweet in support of just 0.97

00:50:40.940 like candace being a human being maybe we shouldn't act like idiots you know sure she took that as like 0.99

00:50:45.400 a thing against her so she tweeted she texted me at like five in the morning from italy she was on 0.96

00:50:49.300 some she was on her anniversary really yeah christian fraud all these things so i'm like

00:50:54.620 i like i show nancy we laugh yeah click that screenshot is going on like this is how this 0.89

00:50:59.080 lady acts you know this is your epstein binder class you know so they got mad and then you know

00:51:05.040 tim wasn't really saying much at that point but i told him you know i don't like how my whole my

00:51:11.000 whole thing was because he asked me like what that was about i'm like i don't like crowder

00:51:13.920 talking like that i think he's whack i don't like crowder maybe at one point maybe 10 years ago

00:51:18.720 but i never really watched him like that there's something about him i just think is dark yeah

00:51:22.520 and um the stuff with him yelling at his wife was while she's pregnant while she's pregnant

00:51:27.240 i understand you get mad and stuff but like you don't act like that yeah no you never like just

00:51:32.400 never he seems like he seems like a kid who was raised in hollywood um he was on arthur okay so

00:51:38.660 that makes a lot of sense and then i don't know like something happened between i don't know if

00:51:43.840 there was a tweet or just tim got tired of the videos that she was making he was on arthur like 0.89

00:51:48.140 the aardvark he was one of the voices what the fuck yes and sounds like it yes dude when you

00:51:53.120 see it when you see the picture who he was you'll be like oh come on if you can find a picture of 0.95

00:51:58.240 him throughout all the images of him in drag you'll find him as an arthur character uh arthur

00:52:05.360 no he was oh my god crazy that's so funny he looks like that he does look like that that's

00:52:11.680 can we bring that up that's fucking phenomenal he does look like that that is his essence 0.86

00:52:14.900 yeah that is his why is that there's something that's look at this picture here soft yeah this 0.99

00:52:20.320 picture on the bottom right dude men who act like that are so pathetic to me you know like

00:52:26.640 why do they have why they disrespect an anomaly like this put him on steven crowder that's so

00:52:31.080 funny oh that's hilarious that's very funny that's messed up why is it yeah it's got steven

00:52:35.300 he must have been on the show at some point but um i don't know what happened after that with tim

00:52:38.940 and her because there was a period like i remember tim even retweeting my thing about candace okay

00:52:43.640 she'd been on his show a few times yeah at least and um so then at some point i'm a it was a video

00:52:49.460 he just got tired of the um the theories that she was putting out then he just started ranting

00:52:55.120 about it like screaming uh at the same time well that's what i mean because i'm talking about the

00:52:59.420 passion behind i can't i can yeah we've had our fair share of of um disagreements yeah public

00:53:04.940 disagreements with with many people shout out to daddy but um i've never you're you've never caught

00:53:09.760 me i'm not gonna be screaming do you respect daddy uh this is this is a little homage to daddy

00:53:14.620 daddy is uh timothy alvarino uh we've since uh buried the hatchet with and now oh yeah i apologize

00:53:22.080 to him good okay that's a matter of fact it's to the point where uh he was he was talking about

00:53:26.920 somebody he was like these guys are fake christians and i don't say anything i'm just

00:53:31.360 looking at it and he messaged me messages me privately and he goes just so that you know

00:53:35.740 this is not about you oh that's what's up yeah he's like i don't want it so then i got in his 0.96

00:53:42.200 comments and i said show me who the fuck they are dad yeah i love that but but yeah then tim 0.95

00:53:50.660 started like screaming and stuff about her screaming and like i was on that episode it 0.98

00:53:55.220 was december 8th um that numerology guy was on and people are like are you afraid of numbers i'm

00:54:00.320 like i'm not even afraid of numbers like the book of numbers is amazing book it's in the bible you

00:54:04.680 You know, all the people God is murdering for like being bad.

00:54:08.580 He's like, you're done.

00:54:09.660 You know, you did the wrong thing.

00:54:11.060 But it's not that I was afraid of numbers.

00:54:13.360 It's that that guy was actually demonic.

00:54:15.080 Like there was a feeling in that room. 1.00

00:54:16.320 Didn't he say some goofy shit? 1.00

00:54:17.560 Like there's no Christians here, right? 1.00

00:54:18.660 Right before we went live.

00:54:19.300 That's exactly what he said.

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00:55:08.140 publish it and i'm like oh so that kind of show i had no idea who this guy was yeah i had no idea

00:55:12.820 and so i showed up and he says that and i had i had a whole other thing planned you say that and

00:55:18.380 i'm going i guess we're doing spiritual warfare now i just immediately like i'm only going to

00:55:21.660 talk scripture yeah and uh and then tim started cursing and screaming and stuff right next to me

00:55:25.480 like right here it's the sword of the spirit he looks at me we're making eye contact while he's

00:55:29.040 screaming it's funny because all the clips of him screaming i'm not in those clips but he's looking

00:55:31.840 at me uh so like in that tim he's not screaming at me he's screaming like about candace but he's

00:55:38.200 like looking in your direction that's the same episode with the numerology guy what a wild what

00:55:42.260 a wild day so he knows i'm i'm praying in that room for everybody yeah myself him numerology

00:55:48.360 phil whoever else is on that episode i remember wants to be in that room and the people watching

00:55:52.160 yeah and um that was it there was a lot of darkness and i just felt like we needed to hear

00:55:56.860 the word of god and you know it got me through that episode and then how were you pulling up

00:56:00.340 those scriptures i know you had your phone it was my phone i what came to mind i forgot what i had

00:56:06.260 in mind there was some theme i think it was just like something like fighting evil or something

00:56:10.400 you know like something like that it wasn't exactly those words and it just got like a whole

00:56:13.700 bunch of different things and uh i just had it ready to go so i was looking at them you know i

00:56:18.160 didn't say anything else that episode i know we talked about this already on the last time i was

00:56:21.140 on but like i didn't i didn't say anything like i intro'd with that and i was ready i had a whole

00:56:27.700 i had like every irl had a book of things i was like ready to go with right yeah and mentioned

00:56:33.000 whatever and i had that but then i was like this guy's twisted yeah that was a huge moment

00:56:39.260 culturally right because everything that was going on and where the conversation was going

00:56:43.120 and all the stuff surrounding it you know politics and candace and this and that um that episode you

00:56:50.320 just speaking in in scripture was like uh i don't know it it to me it felt like this moment where

00:56:56.640 it was almost like a signal it's paradigm shifting yeah it was paradigm shifting it's like hey uh

00:57:01.340 and obviously it was for you because that's kind of where things really branched off um and then

00:57:05.980 it was a slow time in limbo me and matt are trying to do with uh well matt mostly but like with the

00:57:12.400 the show straight bible where we're presenting the bible and we're cross-referencing and we're

00:57:16.380 reading and it's mostly just scripture yeah but people are are embarrassed by the bible i know

00:57:21.760 they're ashamed to quote it or even say that they know it or are reading it and it's like well no

00:57:27.160 here it is on its face and that's what you did what we were we're trying to do to like like a

00:57:31.420 crazy level in front of a demon yeah yeah and that's exactly what i had it's just funny because

00:57:37.640 i grew up mocking christianity i grew up i grew up making fun of it and i didn't want anything to do

00:57:42.700 it my wife always been christian i made jokes you're making fun of a caricature yeah you know

00:57:47.740 and i didn't understand it you know and i didn't take the time to and uh and then it just like a

00:57:52.620 slow burn for me like i was very stubborn i accepted christ i wish i did it much earlier

00:57:57.660 my son did before me nice and he's you know he's 10 now so he he's been christian longer than i have

00:58:01.900 it's just interesting you know he knows his bible better than i did that's so cool because he's just

00:58:05.500 been raised like that right so but i'd never read it publicly and i'd never seen like that reaction

00:58:13.740 like where it's like the demon was hissing at me people right he did not like it you know and it's

00:58:19.180 in my clips from my from my day of that episode i don't have the tim screaming parts like i don't

00:58:23.900 need that to be in part a part of that so it's like that episode exists in many different ways

00:58:28.140 that is my clips where tim is calm again we haven't he's like hey we haven't heard from shane

00:58:32.540 in a while what do you have to say about it or right after he'd just been screaming it's so funny

00:58:36.280 i'm just like i just want to say that scripture scripture scripture and then this guy's like

00:58:39.700 i don't believe in god oh god hates us there's no guy i'm like didn't he say i saw him he just

00:58:44.060 said it on that episode or it was a tweet where he goes imagine believing that the creator of

00:58:47.880 the universe wants a relationship with you and i was like that is such a imagine not believing

00:58:51.840 place and then and then he made a video about me saying he was going to convert my kids

00:58:55.420 to what yeah whatever the Judaism are you are you aware that that guy he has like a whole hex page

00:59:02.440 where he's like hexing people yeah so that's a guy that was on my radar before I started making

00:59:07.640 content and um I thought the numerology thing was fascinating I wasn't like anywhere in my walk with

00:59:12.840 with Christ as I am now so I'm mostly conspiracy and I'm aware of like the new age and a cult I

00:59:18.480 had this long background in understanding these things and I'm looking at the numerology thing

00:59:22.240 I'm going this is fascinating this guy's kind of interesting but I didn't like the way that he was

00:59:25.380 going about it he's like monetizing creating ponzi schemes all around teaching people i'll

00:59:29.940 teach you numerology when they fail five people numerology and when they well this is the crazy

00:59:34.460 thing is like allegedly you know because i don't know legally if i can say this or not but

00:59:39.440 allegedly uh when people would be burned in one way or another they paid money they didn't get

00:59:46.360 a satisfactory product um they would start to express you know discontent with it on the

00:59:51.720 internet and then all of a sudden someone would show up in their dms and this is around covid

00:59:56.060 saying the craziest always always the same thing when when the covid lockdowns happen and when all

01:00:02.280 this stuff martial law because he's i think he thought martial law was gonna happen um i'm gonna 0.97

01:00:06.160 find you i'm gonna gut you like a pig like it was overt death threats from a different account right 0.94

01:00:11.080 but what's significant about that is if you look at this guy he has had more accounts than anybody 0.98

01:00:16.140 and he's open with that the reason he's had those accounts he'll say is because his numerology was

01:00:21.320 just too powerful and elon didn't want him so he'd ban the account of course but really what was

01:00:25.520 happening was he was leaving a trail in my estimation of of burned customers and burned

01:00:30.800 clients and all kinds of other people that he pissed off and he would do something to get his

01:00:34.980 account nuked and then he would come up with another one so there wasn't all this paper trail

01:00:38.360 um and he did that so many times i mean this is a guy who mostly what he does is predict the outcome

01:00:44.980 of sports and with a a track record that's no better than toad shout out to toad he's carved

01:00:50.460 an interesting knee shot for himself in this space because when i look at him besides him being uh

01:00:55.980 clearly satanic he has a page just to put on people um he's also the manager for like fresh

01:01:02.700 and fit yeah that's right he's uh like a talent scout for uh some of these young kids that are

01:01:07.340 coming up in the right wing cool space he's like so the fresh and fit guy myron gains his thing is

01:01:13.180 all anti-jew he's doing the charlie kirk stuff but it's all about jews and i'm like who's backing you

01:01:18.780 but you i know i think that's hilarious i don't like it at all because also doing this parasitic

01:01:23.900 relationship thing with those guys so i was making fun of him john lucre is also wrapped up with this

01:01:28.860 guy sneaker he's tweeting about sneaker and clavicular or some shit and i'm looking at this 0.94

01:01:33.740 guy and he's morbidly obese and disheveled and looks like he smells bad and i just don't 0.96

01:01:38.500 understand the whole thing you know what he did that really was very gross was um he used to try

01:01:43.980 to show up to joe rogan shows and he would try to get on stage he did joe rogan invited him up on

01:01:48.180 stage at one point and he starts throwing money in the crowd and joe rogan starts making fun of his

01:01:52.040 yellow toenails and his flip-flops he gets joe rogan's estranged father on his podcast oh to 0.92

01:02:00.160 talk shit about joe rogan nasty so joe rogan's estranged father who's who's absent is my 0.99

01:02:06.020 understanding is saying that he thinks that his son is gay and all this other shit and i'm going 1.00

01:02:10.180 this guy has no honor wow no no there's he's just vile for the sake of clout internet clout you know 0.99

01:02:17.420 a good image just now that we're thinking about it of like my the end of my time on that show

01:02:23.900 is at the end of that episode because it was a monday night so i would do my show live right

01:02:29.700 uh from the same like area okay we had a house with a studio at the front of the place

01:02:34.440 and so i left early you know like i always did i always left like 10 or 20 minutes early

01:02:39.240 to go do my show we'd go live right after irl and uh after i had left i told the guy i'm praying for

01:02:45.300 him he said i don't want your prayers when you pray you become prey oh god i love the word i 0.94

01:02:49.360 had a wallet from hot topic that said that yeah exactly just edgy fucking yeah and then they're 0.96

01:02:55.300 talking more and uh he said something the guy said numerology guy said something about how like 0.95

01:03:01.220 people think i sound crazy and a lot looks at him and goes you don't sound half as crazy as he said

01:03:06.160 i saw that i i yeah i'm like for real that's insane like i know you don't like me already

01:03:10.560 like but that's insane like that's very insulting what did i even say that was crazy

01:03:14.800 only the bible only the bible literally the only thing i said the whole time yeah made him hiss so 0.59

01:03:20.640 they're basically saying uh you don't sound half as crazy as christianity does because all you did

01:03:24.920 was read scripture that's all i read yeah that's all i said the whole time and um other than i said

01:03:30.480 i'll pray for you yeah you know what you didn't like what was that brief like because you go on

01:03:34.400 your show and now you're i imagine you're talking about this experience that you just went through

01:03:38.600 or did you have a whole thing planned and it wasn't something that was going to come up no i

01:03:42.060 i did talk about i forgot exactly what i was saying uh because it was also like this uh tim

01:03:47.740 said there was a shooting that happened okay i don't know the details of that uh oh that's right

01:03:52.380 he blamed candace for it on the show remember that you remember that so it did lead to that

01:03:56.980 i don't think can't have anything to do with anything but he was obviously up upset you know

01:04:01.880 and we left another studio because of all the issues like whatever was going on the other

01:04:04.920 studio we had like i saw bomb dogs and robot uh bomb bomb robots yeah like even when that happened

01:04:11.580 like i don't i'm not a tim pool fan but before everything got to the point where i was going

01:04:15.760 this is strange i was like this is terrible it was weird i don't know who's doing it i never

01:04:20.200 really followed up with who got in trouble if anyone got in trouble whatever was something

01:04:23.860 was happening at the old studio where we were where you were i think uh you were probably in

01:04:27.680 the house yeah yeah so like that was just getting hit up you know to the point where in both studios

01:04:32.240 the same way exactly like zero he loved he loved that look gray yeah okay that exact look uh it

01:04:38.940 match is close um yeah but uh it just became a part of like the work whatever was going on i

01:04:44.000 don't know but i remember there was a one time uh we're outside waiting for irl might have been

01:04:49.300 milo or someone but someone comes and tells us like hey just so you know there's a bomb threat

01:04:52.900 uh robot bombs are uh are here bomb robots are here and uh to check it out we're just like okay

01:04:58.600 cool and like it was just like nothing it didn't feel like anything's gonna happen because it

01:05:02.000 happened all the time um but then whatever happened at the new spot tim got that's why

01:05:07.040 He was screaming again that night and he had announced he's leaving.

01:05:10.540 So he also had said, uh, maybe a day or two after he's shutting everything down.

01:05:13.840 Okay.

01:05:14.140 So I'm like, I'm like mentally prepared for anything to stop, you know, at this point,

01:05:17.780 he's going to Miami for two months and I'm going home.

01:05:21.320 So when I left IRL that night to go do my show, I think we just talked about,

01:05:25.020 but probably, probably like what we saw about now, you know, um, I don't remember.

01:05:28.100 And also saying like, I don't know what the show is going to be right now because everyone's

01:05:31.780 leaving, you know, and then, and then they're saying there's no security at that point.

01:05:35.100 They were saying that because everyone's gone, they're going with Tim.

01:05:37.040 How long is this in comparison or what sort of proximity to, like, the great culling of all the staff?

01:05:43.940 Because it was like this time period, man.

01:05:46.100 There were two iterations, right?

01:05:47.600 Yeah, but the big one with, like, Cassandra and stuff and my wife was, like, maybe Thanksgiving time?

01:05:57.600 Or maybe it was October, like a year or two earlier.

01:05:59.760 So when was this whole?

01:06:01.420 So with me and the numerology guy night, that must have been a year plus.

01:06:06.620 okay maybe a year maybe a year it's just a just from you know a thousand foot overview it's a 0.65

01:06:11.780 great calling yeah the great color he's been going through so much shit and it's like i haven't seen

01:06:18.060 the redemption arc come you know he's going through it uh you know dude he built something

01:06:24.180 crazy yeah it was i've been i i still think one of the greatest podcast moments was him

01:06:30.840 debating dorsey right like yeah he just he just destroyed dorsey yeah you know and i that was

01:06:36.880 amazing that's how i even found out who he was i didn't really watch rogan that much i don't even

01:06:40.260 know how that the algorithm just found me and i remember that i remember liking him i mean i like

01:06:44.520 i said i used to listen to him it wasn't until all of this kind of uh almost almost behavior that

01:06:50.700 was in contrast to the character that i had seen before yeah i don't know it could be stress too

01:06:55.160 because people hell yeah you know like whatever's going on with all these threats the money the

01:06:59.480 stuff that happened with him in tenant which is a whole bizarre story like the russian money thing

01:07:03.940 yeah you know like there's so funny to be around someone when they're in the headlines constantly

01:07:08.480 and like i know him pretty well and being like well those headlines are obviously wrong

01:07:12.040 i booked those i booked a lot of those shows no one told me to do any i booked mia right to talk

01:07:16.960 about like emfs yeah right i we took the pole shift store like so like if anyone's getting

01:07:21.620 told anything it wasn't me like i was just talking about weird stuff um or like birds falling out of

01:07:26.120 the sky and like fake clouds yeah uh so like that dude's under an intense pressure i couldn't imagine

01:07:31.980 while having all of us and like it's just people like his friends and stuff managing everything

01:07:35.780 it's too many too many i mean you know even if it is your friends i just think it's too much

01:07:39.720 um too many mouths to feed too many people too many hands in the pot uh it's too big of an

01:07:45.920 operation i think you scale up and uh and that's always the problem right so i try to remember

01:07:50.000 that too like you know you work anywhere for five years you're gonna know all the warts you know

01:07:53.640 you know all the different things that happen behind the scenes and like i just hate the drama

01:07:56.800 part like i get it i get it and i you know i told him this last time we talked i'm like dude i don't

01:08:00.960 care about the drama stuff because at that at that time he was involved with drama like while me and

01:08:05.140 him are talking about we're not being a part of this thing anymore he's dealing with like lauren 0.61

01:08:08.360 southern and stuff and i'm like dude it's gay how do you bow out of that it's gay and he's like i 0.64

01:08:13.540 know i'm like dude i'm not trying to have drama i just i told him i had jokes yeah but like it's 0.95

01:08:18.580 all good like you did your thing i'm doing my ass fine and now it's like he's back in the drama

01:08:22.680 you know with alex and it's funny because i send the same grace to alex because i'm like people 0.50

01:08:27.600 tell me they hate alex or whatever they don't understand why he's doing certain things and

01:08:30.120 there's been a lot of things i don't agree with alex on the past year when it comes to trump and

01:08:33.080 stuff whatever i'm like you got to think about being sued for the gdp of france like this dude

01:08:39.640 was people i know people who think he murdered people yeah they don't even know who adam lanza

01:08:44.380 is yeah they think alex jones is sandy hook so like i i try to extend grace these people who

01:08:49.480 like in the news way more and making headlines and a lot of the headlines are fake and like i

01:08:54.940 don't know what's going on behind the scenes like it sucks they got families alex clearly has some

01:08:59.120 issues with drinking yeah i think he's clean i hope he's clean by the way i'd like to drink with

01:09:02.980 him dude he is one of the best people like i love alex he's got a huge chapter in a book about me

01:09:08.800 and alex driving around texas he's very good to me the info wars guys have always been good to me

01:09:13.500 yep i love i'm a huge fan of him that's why i'm in this place now where we talk about this pretty

01:09:18.720 often too so you know in the conspiracy space all of these big shows get labeled feds or yeah

01:09:24.120 everybody's a fed everybody's a spider-man meme exactly exactly and i'm in this place now where

01:09:28.700 i'm like that doesn't even matter to me like i'm not following any of these people and so that has

01:09:33.600 no bearing on my ability to like these people uh i like tucker carlson i like alex jones don't make

01:09:39.140 an idol of man and it's not going to matter who's a fed at all i mean i follow jesus christ right

01:09:43.940 so if alex jones falls flat on his face because he got exposed for this and that like man that

01:09:48.120 sucks for alex really enjoyed him though funny dude a fun dude also the the the things that he

01:09:54.700 nailed that you have to give him credit for i mean i like i always tell people i was drinking

01:09:58.800 tonic water because it had quinine in it that was me and my dad too yeah yes because of alex

01:10:04.780 yes exactly so dude i totally agree man i i love them all and like i'm not trying to like it's fun

01:10:13.500 to get the fights and stuff on twitter i'd get it sure sure people do it for clicks like you see

01:10:17.020 someone like uh germy whatever harambee whatever his name is like he gets into fights all the time

01:10:21.280 like me like i'm sure you probably did at some point too yeah he hated the eliza store all these

01:10:24.700 things it didn't seem authentic like you can hate me it's fine and you can hate what i've written

01:10:28.220 that's fine but he turns it into like an economy of the people who like are barnacles to the to 0.92

01:10:33.820 the podcast system and they make video after video about it you know stupid to me and also like the 0.86

01:10:39.840 guy who just wrote a book about radical redemption right like i'm with kanye talking about like i love 0.98

01:10:45.220 hitler you know yeah he said in that sentence i love jews and i love hitler also we should stop

01:10:48.780 being victims i totally agree this is a crazy sentence but also like i don't know if i have

01:10:52.660 any problems with that at all forgive hitler yeah you know i thought that was so radical but it's so

01:10:57.400 simple because that's literally what it's all about yeah there's a lot of really bad people

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01:11:48.420 you're going to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it that's the whole thing

01:11:53.740 is about it's also kind of for us too right it's like vengeance is for the lord god's gonna handle

01:11:59.340 all that and like yeah we're called to forgive because it eats away at us like acid and never

01:12:03.460 let anyone tell you don't talk to that person because you think they're this and that they're

01:12:06.260 evil they're a fed like anybody could be anything honestly i'll find out for myself i tell people

01:12:09.840 like i said there's people in the book i'm like you could be a fed i don't know i even tell alex

01:12:14.440 you might have been mk ultra yeah yeah he literally tells me i used to do acid in a in a college in

01:12:18.980 california or something i'm like what year was this you know are you like a unabomber backfire

01:12:23.740 yeah exactly got one that got off the range but like you and i talked on the phone a while ago

01:12:27.800 about this and talked about how like people are mad about owen on tucker or something right

01:12:31.340 i'm like if owen gets to go on tucker and speak completely honestly what's the problem look at

01:12:36.240 the fruits of the conversation that's the problem that's the huge part look at the fruits of the

01:12:39.700 conversation a lot of that is like uh our peers that uh i mean a lot of them came to brohemian

01:12:43.940 growth but they're like conspiracy theorists they're a little bit lower level than i get it

01:12:47.720 i get it yeah and i'm just like i i hear you yeah but there's a lot more that goes on behind the

01:12:53.180 scenes and you you're seeing more than we do but i'm i'm trying to tell them like hey like that

01:12:57.820 might not be all what you think it's not that simple in other words you can't just say

01:13:02.740 definitively fed definitively captured platform and then roll with that it's like okay but what

01:13:07.420 happens when that platform has a conversation that's good for people it's not just because i

01:13:10.960 know a guy it's because like no no i will i saw what we saw what happened right you know and you

01:13:15.620 should never not forget that too though like because it could be people who are going to be

01:13:19.160 nice for a while yeah to try to co-opt you i you know because there's handlers out there and i

01:13:22.800 always think of seven c's you guys know yeah where is he i haven't seen him in a while i had

01:13:28.520 him on my show about a year ago yeah but i'm like i that's that's a part of my mind too the way he

01:13:32.500 maps things out i'm like you know a little bit of the problem with that is though like you can it's

01:13:37.020 like seven degrees from kevin bacon like you can attach everybody to everything because you could

01:13:41.800 easily look at me tim pool you can look at me and like where i grew up near a military base

01:13:45.400 it's very easy to make wait a second yep yep it's very easy to make those connections and then build

01:13:51.660 that caricature if it helps your narrative we we got uh my pillow as a sponsor nice and then we

01:13:57.460 never used it not because we were like oh wait a second like the my pillow guy is associated with

01:14:02.220 like we just never did it because i forgot about it and also like i don't know it's like pillows

01:14:09.320 strange and i wanted to do a thing where i wanted them to send me some gear so i could be like these

01:14:13.940 slippers do fuck before i started promoting them right but i like never pulled the trigger on that

01:14:18.480 so i never ended up speaking on it but then i see seven seas and he's got this giant web and it's 0.99

01:14:22.560 like if you're fucking funded by the my pillow guy then you're uh you know funded by israel or 0.61

01:14:27.040 something like that and uh and i go oh shit i was almost that close to accidentally being on one of 0.99

01:14:32.060 these maps no matter what you do though you're gonna have a tripwire 100 that's the problem

01:14:36.140 but like you can also be like no to certain things like um at work uh they would have they're coming

01:14:43.020 to me with different sponsorships for the show and that was like towards the end of it which is

01:14:46.920 great you know but i would turn down a lot yeah because i don't really care yeah i don't care

01:14:51.920 about you know i should have i guess that's a bad business model maybe probably i'm not there

01:14:55.260 but i'm not gonna talk about my problems with ai and data centers or how i don't like gambling

01:15:01.960 and then pivot to polymarket or some ai tim never had a problem with that like we that was one of

01:15:07.220 the meetings we had where he's like dude i do the same thing i'm like good because i'm not

01:15:09.980 i think that's dishonest yeah um but there are people in the ecosphere who were like just say

01:15:14.460 yes we can make this money i'm like yeah i i get it and i wish i could make you more money i don't

01:15:19.580 i don't know i'm trying yeah but i'm not gonna go out of my way i think that's really disingenuous

01:15:24.160 so you know that was one of those conversations but made me start thinking like you could say

01:15:28.940 yes to one company you don't know what parent company who's funding them what association

01:15:33.260 and then i think about seven c's and his map and all this stuff and but like there are clear lines

01:15:37.260 like anything that's teal related but you could then be like well i'm not going to use rumble 0.98

01:15:40.880 then right because it's it's van we don't use we don't use them because fuck them but i think it's 0.94

01:15:46.180 fake i think a lot of rumble stuff yeah dude i know it is because you could see the the views 0.98

01:15:51.560 that show up versus the views that you can see as a creator i had an interaction with uh pavlovsky

01:15:57.180 on twitter oh and he kind of like backed out in shame because i was saying like hey how come on

01:16:02.240 youtube we've grown exponentially but on rumble we've stayed exactly the same we exploded and

01:16:07.240 then plateaued and the explosion almost didn't even make any sense the question was the question

01:16:11.580 the first question is like how come my views have remained the same in my files on on rumble and he

01:16:15.440 goes maybe your content sucks oh man i go okay well let's talk about my numbers everywhere else

01:16:20.960 like millions over here and hundreds of thousands over here and it's just growing and he goes oh 0.94

01:16:26.400 well perhaps it's the season and i'm like season for what and i'm like why why have you stopped

01:16:32.100 showing my content because we're not doing like right-wing grifting bullshit you know what i mean

01:16:36.980 like a dan bongino kind of an action you know where i'm like championing the trump administration

01:16:41.840 like if we were doing that if we wanted to get into political grifting we probably would have

01:16:44.740 killed it on rumble right all the problems we have with youtube rumble has them too yeah gatekeeping

01:16:49.860 yeah bad people running it i did an irl with paulowski once and i always just show up to

01:16:54.680 i'm gonna be nice like i'm not gonna show i'm either co-host or third chair whatever i'm not

01:16:59.700 gonna like unless it's unless you create fake clouds right that's a bit of a problem everybody's

01:17:04.380 got their thing i was nice up until the last 30 minutes you know i was like you know we you've 0.93

01:17:07.980 since you've opened up the conversation you've been doing something to the fucking we will get 0.88

01:17:10.520 into it but you know i'm always trying to be respectful but if i'm not gonna like self-censor 0.91

01:17:14.700 and i'm not gonna not say something right and he got i knew about him and he's like a billionaire

01:17:19.140 or something i also know about rumble a lot of business i also know about vance and all that

01:17:23.400 stuff i'm not talking about flag guy i'm talking about pavlasi okay okay that guy's also teal

01:17:27.100 funded so he's got a lot of money and a nice mullet but pavlasi got really mad when i said

01:17:31.120 about you know americans uh buying chinese drones which that was a thing we have to pass a bill

01:17:37.460 mad about that well it's funny because uh so we passed a bill to say no more of that because 0.80

01:17:40.960 obviously like why would we buy drones from yeah um that's also why we're getting rid of foreign 0.96

01:17:45.040 Roombas but um it's because by either by fucking ground or air it's not gonna get you 0.91

01:17:50.100 blowing up or something like is that the spying spying yeah yeah but it could be that too like 0.97

01:17:55.680 they could hijack it and but uh it's because he's in I feel like a Roomba would be much slower

01:18:00.560 that'd be hilarious a horror movie a very slow 9-11 yeah it took 24 hours 0.65

01:18:09.120 but he's in business with Vance and like Palmer Lucky sorry that movie is gonna suck

01:18:14.660 so like he's making money from drones yeah so like okay we used to buy Chinese drones but he's

01:18:24.460 like oh no we're not we're they're American made I'm like oh yeah in my head afterwards I'm like

01:18:28.520 oh yes because he's in league he's making money with Palmer Luckey the Keel universe yeah no he's

01:18:33.300 he's a very big part of all that stuff so he got very emotional you know and uh but I something I

01:18:38.800 like Rumble and there's people I know who are real who use Rumble but to me there's something

01:18:43.040 isn't that it though man he got very emotional i've not found it yet that's the cow i don't know

01:18:49.640 what you could say to me that would get me very i mean i get emotional sometimes about

01:18:54.600 new agers or witches or occultists because they think that they understand a thing and i'm and

01:19:01.420 it's like kind of where i used to be so like i think my problem with that is i just see some of

01:19:05.700 my old self in that this is a charlie kirk thing this is what what got me emotional because like

01:19:10.220 you can say just about anything to me but i don't i wouldn't say emotional but like got a reaction

01:19:14.920 out of me and got me like messed up in the head for a while was was this year it was like the

01:19:19.200 bohemian grove like my friends falling out these are people close to me and i'm like yeah it's a

01:19:23.380 deep betrayal right yeah so that's the kind of thing yeah and it was yeah it was public too

01:19:27.800 and you've invested labor and stress and emotion and all this stuff into it that's different that's

01:19:32.440 not like don't talk bad about peter teal no you know what i mean like yeah people like even the

01:19:37.160 cloud guy got upset when i talked about zuckerberg yeah he's like i called him a lizard he's like oh 0.81

01:19:41.460 i don't think i'm like man don't even start right now like i'll get to you later like shut up but

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01:20:36.380 you might as well publish it.

01:20:38.260 I think it's horrible, but they can speak bad on Christ.

01:20:41.420 And I'm still going to try to work on extending grace to them

01:20:44.340 because I've been there.

01:20:45.800 And I know people can change it.

01:20:47.440 If you show grace, you can maybe save that person's soul.

01:20:50.540 You're supposed to rebuke your brother if they're really off base.

01:20:53.240 But if it's a non-believer, it's like, okay, well, here's the game now.

01:20:56.180 Let's try to win this over.

01:20:57.560 I see what you're saying.

01:20:58.480 now we're talking about christ right cool i'm not gonna get offended at that but right because

01:21:02.520 you don't have a golden calf well that's what happens right we had that recently with the

01:21:06.860 orthodox yeah yeah where they go oh uh owens offended me he's offended me by bashing my

01:21:11.480 religion and it's like that's not what we're called to do we're not supposed to put up walls

01:21:14.340 against anybody who has critiques no matter if they're comedic or offensive or anything like

01:21:19.080 that like we're supposed to win or try to win these people over or at least make an attempt

01:21:23.780 to plant seeds that god willing will grow into something that you know it's funny one of those 0.97

01:21:28.260 guys a straggler came after me this morning and i just like headshot him because he was like oh 0.93

01:21:33.660 you must be a karate and you must uh you're responsible for gay churches right now i was 0.97

01:21:38.980 just like one of your most prominent saints is gay bang and it's like yeah yeah nothing to say 0.98

01:21:43.540 about that and then just flip out but i'm like guys you got to calm down with that like that's 0.95

01:21:47.120 your that's your sacred well that's the whole thing right so fighting with the orthodox church

01:21:50.780 because you're supposed to rebuke a fellow believer right and and correct them but as far

01:21:55.180 as like these other people go it's like yeah man you know if you want to talk about it i'll talk

01:21:58.620 about it but um i want to take an opportunity to get into your book because we kind of beat around

01:22:04.100 the book a little bit like what's what's around the book around the book um what's the book about

01:22:09.580 what made you write it yeah so i uh had experienced like two years of just i felt like i was trespassing

01:22:15.580 into all these crazy situations like as these people were in the news making controversy i'm

01:22:20.940 now like thrown into the fire and that's kanye kerry lake alex jones eliza blue yeah riffraff

01:22:26.700 to a degree like riffraff riffraff was in the riffraff's in the book i love it i spent a week

01:22:31.020 down here with did you really yeah he's the best dude that's like a really positive moment in the

01:22:34.940 book really like me going to like east palestine seeing ohio in the train wreck yeah after like all

01:22:40.060 this bad stuff it's like a moment uh of like levity with with riffraff he's hilarious and

01:22:45.420 and he's a he seems very funny he is the man um and that was just totally random that how that

01:22:50.800 happened but the book is just like a me like a journey through the country um for two years

01:22:55.960 profiling people who were controversial and then also like looking at how america looked after

01:23:01.460 covid you know because it's like waking up from covid still that's interesting all these things

01:23:05.600 happen whether it's the train explosion in east palestine that was insane to how the politicians

01:23:11.020 totally failed those people all of the um the ways like it literally inverted the atmosphere

01:23:15.980 for a bit in east palestine so like the plume happened the explosion of the final chloride

01:23:20.740 happened and there was like a almost like an invisible dome that encased this town for like

01:23:26.420 a few minutes that killed off birds bees all this crazy stuff so like i'm seeing all these weird

01:23:31.480 crazy things and um wait wait before we depart from that are you aware you're aware of um of

01:23:38.220 white noise yes i know i know i mean like he called it yeah is it programming like so many

01:23:45.800 so many people that worked on that film were from specifically east palestine they were they were

01:23:51.740 recruiting help from that place and what's even more fascinating about that film is it works like

01:23:57.040 a cubric film where there's a story happening in the background that story that's happening in the

01:24:00.900 background which you have to ask why they put it in there if it has no bearing on the narrative

01:24:05.060 itself is all about aliens landing it's over and over again on the news that's on the television

01:24:11.660 on the paper that's on the ground you know the newspaper it's about alien uh craft landing and

01:24:17.900 once you start to square that and you look at the dialogue it's actually not really there's no great

01:24:24.320 revelation about where things went and why it happened or anything like that and so it kind of

01:24:31.600 makes you feel like like sometimes the dialogue between the family which is a great movie i really

01:24:36.340 enjoyed it is like white noise like it's like they're talking about nothing they're just

01:24:41.060 squabbling as a family yeah and so you're meant to i think almost be like that's not what you're

01:24:45.700 paying attention to pay attention to what's happening in the background that whole thing

01:24:49.380 so it just adds a layer to that actually i haven't seen the movie but i i know the book

01:24:53.780 by don galillo and i tried reaching out to him beforehand interesting i got his address from a

01:24:59.360 friend who knows who's written him before he didn't write back but I was like it'd be really

01:25:03.220 interesting to hear from Don DeLillo about what he thinks about this happening now you know because

01:25:07.720 like I love those old authors like Thomas Pynchon these like kind of like counterculture authors

01:25:12.120 from the 60s and 70s who wrote about paranoia conspiracy theories like I love that stuff

01:25:16.720 and that's the kind of stuff that put me on to like was that element in the book yeah yeah all

01:25:20.860 that the aliens I don't remember so if you get a chance watch it because it's um it's bizarre yeah

01:25:27.400 it's so bizarre like i said most of the running dialogue in the film is almost inconsequential

01:25:32.380 they're just talking about you know they're like squabbling as a family about silly things as

01:25:36.760 they're being relocated because of this you know right you know hazardous chemicals and such but

01:25:41.540 i i'm sitting there when it when it happened it was the same time i think that we were getting

01:25:47.380 um a lot of you know reports of craft i think it was even potentially around the same time as the

01:25:55.060 chinese weather balloon that was heading across the country later that winter and so there was

01:25:59.760 like a lot happening on the world stage that was about potential alien craft because at the same

01:26:04.760 time that the chinese weather balloon was heading across the country uruguay was reporting a very

01:26:09.620 similar situation canada obviously because they're right there and it comes from the west coast as

01:26:14.020 well i don't know if it was the face peelers uh shout out to daddy burn at that point too

01:26:17.640 i feel like that was around the same time dude we've just been given so much like the news cycle

01:26:21.960 was so fast he's been black we've been blacked up that's why i call it in the book like the

01:26:26.000 country's trapped in um like a revolving door of tragedy like it's just non-stop so people

01:26:30.900 like there's a part where am i maybe it's in east palestine i forget where i was in the book but

01:26:35.720 some i think i'm in east palestine when i find out about one of these school shootings in tennessee

01:26:38.740 and you're like so we just pivot immediately now it's that right people are now these people are

01:26:43.200 going to be forgotten and you know they're not getting any help from the politicians donald

01:26:46.180 trump came and bought you mcdonald's more poison like that's so much during this troubled time

01:26:52.420 it was so sad um but yeah i i'm ohio i spent a lot of time in ohio for the books i was there

01:26:58.140 with alex rosen catching pedophiles and what a crazy time it's been for you shane these last

01:27:03.120 few years i knew while i was writing these stories that like i might have like early versions of them

01:27:07.260 they'll be public i'll you know they'll be published but i knew i was like i can turn

01:27:11.220 this into a bigger narrative because they're they all fit right together yeah and they run

01:27:14.380 into each other like the kanye and the eliza thing there was a connection there because

01:27:17.720 on his platform for yay 24 he wanted to tackle human trafficking before eliza's life blew up

01:27:22.000 in my story i was like well she's the only person i know i didn't even know her i was like she's on

01:27:25.660 twitter i can connect you two so there's like a group chat of me yay and her talking about his

01:27:29.540 platform to take care of human trafficking like i think we could all get behind that like yeah yeah

01:27:33.440 that's great so everything kind of led into another like kanye and then i get to go to phoenix with

01:27:40.380 uh because charlie flew us out there and then through charlie and through tim i get to carry

01:27:44.880 lake to go to her ballot trial because all the fraudulent ballots which i think was totally

01:27:48.480 fake it's so funny to see to be in a courtroom and see i'm sitting next to nbc right the local

01:27:55.400 nbc guy's got the hair he looks like a tuba toothpaste yeah yeah and uh dude he was terrible

01:28:01.700 terrible and like i'll carry nowadays she might even be the ambassador of jamaica i think like

01:28:05.980 i don't know what happened with that but she's been absorbed into the administration it makes

01:28:08.920 no sense of jamaica yes oh yeah i know i know i felt that i was like i'm in traffic just yesterday

01:28:15.360 i see an suv in front of me and it says there's a license plate with a bracket around it and it 1.00

01:28:19.620 says uh who job blesses no man can curse i pull up it's just a fat white bitch in the driver's 1.00

01:28:26.700 seat i'm going what are you doing i'm trying to do better like shane's trying to stop cursing 1.00

01:28:30.480 i'm trying like stop noticing jamaica i have stopped looking at jamaica in general about

01:28:35.100 they make me stumble they make me stumble man and we're back but like i'm sitting there he's

01:28:43.380 he we're watching the same court proceedings he goes outside and does this thing with the

01:28:47.360 microphone on the camera he's reporting on a different world just like what my dad was telling

01:28:50.940 me when i was a kid and i'm like wait but they literally said they printed out the wrong ballot

01:28:54.680 sizes and like they knew it and that the machines wouldn't take those ballot sizes so like where's

01:28:59.660 that in your story you know so like he picks and chooses what he wants to share and like the

01:29:05.080 lawyer for the people um that's for the state against carrie he's like the son of one of the

01:29:10.020 guys who was with nixon for watergate like actually break the dad his dad broke the cabinet

01:29:14.580 so i'm like the the lineage here is super weird yeah yeah yeah the narrative framing is super

01:29:20.440 weird her lawyer was amazing like he was dude it was so funny brian blem is his name okay and uh

01:29:26.360 he looks like the big lebowski and he has long hair he wore a suit and he kind of talks like it 0.94

01:29:33.020 that's cool he was whip smart and hilarious and i'm like he's doing a pretty good job but like 0.99

01:29:37.520 this whole thing is against these people yeah she's gonna lose obviously she did like it went

01:29:42.420 nowhere it was a bummer and uh you know now she's in administration i don't know how she feels 0.80

01:29:46.080 about because i'm very critical she's been so sweet to me she's a very nice lady but like you

01:29:51.480 know i i can't say for her but all the people i know who've been absorbed by the administration

01:29:55.580 they don't talk to you anymore once uh oh yeah because you're toxic you know the second you

01:29:59.940 start saying things about teal you know trump vance or if you don't like vance it's like maybe

01:30:04.720 i shouldn't like do this show anymore talk to this guy i'm like it's a blessing it's a blessing

01:30:08.480 though like i've done that so many times where i accidentally step on a landmine and i you don't 0.95

01:30:13.720 know you're in the room you just watch the people fall away and then you i look around i go oh shit 0.57

01:30:18.420 like you could feel the atmosphere change around you because you said a thing when that happens i 1.00

01:30:22.840 look for more landmines i'm stupid as i'm sure you you know like you hit them you gotta then

01:30:28.280 where's the other one well that's the thing like it's hopscotch as you do this game more and you 0.85

01:30:32.380 realize that that's what's happening yeah i've just leaned into it a little bit more but before

01:30:36.400 what a blessing it is for me to have said the truth at the time to the people who don't want

01:30:41.220 to hear it because now i'm not going to be included in some of these groups as a matter of fact some

01:30:45.560 of them will tell you that you're absolutely excluded from the group and i go oh that's a

01:30:49.080 relief yeah god like what that's a temptation you know that i might have taken yeah watch some of

01:30:53.300 sooner i agree you know i forget who was on irl they were really upset that i didn't like vance

01:31:00.660 it was recently some some he was a desantis guy too i was like oh that makes a lot of sense um

01:31:06.100 but he was very upset with me not liking vance and so once you set up that one landmine i'm like

01:31:10.660 oh cool so now i'm gonna say that uh i think vance was created in a lab by and he didn't like that

01:31:16.180 so i'm like oh okay so now i'm gonna say i think vance is hillbilly obama yeah i think he was

01:31:20.260 totally he's fake like i know people in appalachia tattooed eyeliner on dude he's so fake every to me

01:31:25.440 like i think fishback was fake yeah like this guy i don't know why more people didn't catch on to

01:31:29.820 that like everything he did to me online looked like an act well it was all so again i didn't

01:31:35.880 even vote and i haven't paid attention to florida politics but i i saw like joel webbin saying like

01:31:40.280 this is the most important election in your lifetime and i was like where do you live 0.99

01:31:43.260 right in texas i live here and i don't give a shit every time somebody says that shit though 0.98

01:31:47.400 i go okay so this is but the guy got 10 of the vote and it's like it's again it's like we're not 0.99

01:31:51.540 living in the same reality right that was all fake his girl is like his ex-girl whatever putting

01:31:55.520 those videos out there she's like a separate wife like all of it just seemed fake this episode is

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01:32:46.700 an hour you might as well publish it and i think that's what politics has always been sure the

01:32:52.200 wwe style like there's another thing in the book where i um i i'm nwa like national wrestling

01:32:57.320 alliance you know like rick flair right uh that might have been rick flair earlier on i've read

01:33:01.800 when i was there it was ec3 was a champion and um billy corgan owns it right from the pumpkin oh

01:33:06.960 that's right so through ec3 i'm able to go watch a taping and i'm standing next to corgan you know

01:33:12.400 ec3 yeah dude it's crazy ec3 is the man i like him he is the man he's cool um i'm actually gonna

01:33:18.020 put a profile up on my website about him uh because he's he's the man but i'm in nashville

01:33:22.480 watching this and i get to meet corgan i didn't think that was gonna happen i have a pumpkin

01:33:26.420 tattoo and i'm embarrassed next to him because i'm like i'm hiding it i don't want him to see it

01:33:30.600 and he's super tall super nice and oh wait let me tell you this really quick super perceptive

01:33:35.660 i had met eddie bravo yeah before i was doing any kind of show i went to a sam triply show and i had

01:33:40.920 a i've looked into its shirt and i go bro i wore this shirt when my daughter was born and he looked

01:33:47.180 at me like i had five heads what the fuck's the matter with you that's awesome i could reach out 0.76

01:33:51.640 and get him on the show but i'm still fucking embarrassed dude yeah dude i'm so yeah i felt so 0.98

01:33:57.420 embarrassed i didn't want him to know like to me melancholy infinite sadness was a very important 0.91

01:34:01.160 to me like in a darker time in my life and i was like just feeling like crap you know and i love

01:34:06.160 that album brought me back to my childhood i remember stealing that album from a kid i didn't

01:34:09.820 like not enough to let him see that i was like i'm not gonna see it but we didn't talk music at all

01:34:13.720 you know i didn't want to be like oh my god i want to talk about wrestling he loves wrestling

01:34:17.700 yeah but what we talked about was how we're watching like a royal rumble whatever it's called

01:34:21.900 everyone's in the ring chairs are flying and it's just me and him watching his like it's like his

01:34:26.920 imagination and he's just like he said this is america yeah yeah he's like he's like this is

01:34:33.320 politics that's interesting blue collar this is creativity he gave me this amazing monologue

01:34:39.120 about how wrestling is a reflection of reality this is what i've been saying for a long time

01:34:44.060 billy corgan must be listening he is plugged in we talk about um trump's you know uh admiration

01:34:50.740 for what vince mcmahon has created and also trump's like you know he's he's wrestling adjacent

01:34:55.560 he was born out of wwe the trump we know exactly so and then i do think that that he uses that to

01:35:02.380 inform a lot of because i do think it's all theater politics is theater and i and i i see

01:35:06.940 a lot of uh wrestling as a structure being used to inform uh you know political theater

01:35:13.460 it's fairly simple there's a face there's a heel i think the question is there's some kayfabe

01:35:17.760 nowadays like especially with the the rnc with hulk holgan i'm like okay this is just too it's

01:35:24.420 not it's not just that it's obvious but they're actually they've ripped down the veil yeah and

01:35:29.660 it's for everybody to see and they if you don't see that's kind of your fault so i'm like where

01:35:37.240 are we at in the game here and didn't hulk hogan show up wasn't that right after butler

01:35:40.620 uh yeah yeah that was that's the reason that's the reason he showed up that's right yeah it was

01:35:45.980 because he was like i thought that was weird don't hide my political beliefs brother right

01:35:49.500 like we're gonna to me i thought that was all weird like i have a lot of questions you want

01:35:52.980 take a shot at the trumpster right yeah yeah i'm like butler as we're watching it happen i'm like

01:35:57.860 oh it's terrible you know but like something's up yeah something is weird about it i forget who's

01:36:02.980 i had someone on the show as it happened it might have been tripoli like we were like right after

01:36:08.260 oh the next day it was probably you didn't have us but like yeah trip we we had uh told sam we're

01:36:13.140 like yo this is fake and he's like you want to talk about it he didn't even put us on tinfoil

01:36:16.180 hat because he was like people are going to be mad that you said this we were on a show called

01:36:20.020 dangerous dangerous dangerous yeah and then he eventually put it on tinfoil hat because he's 0.98

01:36:23.880 like fuck it like yeah and we were saying like yeah that whole thing was fake like all this 0.92

01:36:27.760 stuff was orchestrated the way it went down i got pushed back from that episode because 0.99

01:36:31.020 we were so that was like july yeah before the before the election and we were on that episode

01:36:36.540 talking about how like look trump the hero's arc is fascinating but like he's in bed with like all

01:36:42.760 the silicon valley you know teal created advance and the vague and all these people i think are

01:36:48.420 very bad very nefarious and here we are and then once he's in again you know because i seem like

01:36:53.200 positive he was gonna get elected again because of the hero's arc you know then these people take

01:36:57.060 over and then the second day in trump 2.0 is project stargate the ai bill for 500 billion

01:37:02.360 dollars yeah totally selling out the middle class to silicon valley all the people that were censoring

01:37:07.720 all of us and trump five years earlier so i was like i felt vindicated on that i'm like that we

01:37:13.500 saw if anyone's paying attention you saw that he was going to reward the bad people and the good

01:37:17.320 people would once again fail which is interesting like a political talking head like tim pool should

01:37:22.540 understand this because when he's going after alex jones his original attack was uh alex said

01:37:27.980 oh my viewership is down on x and he goes well is it a surprise you've look at what you've done to

01:37:32.680 trump and now you've lost all your listenership and i'm kind of like you don't see this i know

01:37:37.220 that to me i'm like why are we even having this conversation because like everyone also is calling

01:37:41.200 alex a massad plant yeah like not that long ago yeah you know and who knows alex also has weird

01:37:47.780 connections to like nasa and cia like i said you could make those connections to anybody he says

01:37:53.320 you know he'll he's open about it yeah he's many of his family members are intelligence and

01:37:57.920 everything and you know once again it just goes back to not make an idol of man um yeah and if

01:38:02.160 you're not following him it's not a big deal and then there is maybe he's like a a limited hangout

01:38:06.920 where it's like you tune into that guy you're gonna get some really solid information i bet what

01:38:12.000 tim would say once the dust settles with whatever's going on him and alex is that uh this is he would

01:38:17.300 probably say this is like an off season you know in politics so you know yeah we had primaries but

01:38:21.880 like it's a little before midterms and the news cycle's slow even though i don't agree that it's

01:38:26.180 slow i think it's never slow you just choose you pick and choose what you want to talk about

01:38:29.780 on its slowest it's on a two-week cycle but i haven't seen a two-week cycle in a long time right

01:38:34.480 but then like you know in that podcast realm you know it seems to be like that bickering and that

01:38:40.000 beef happens at these lulls also though not because sometimes there's elections and there's

01:38:44.480 lots of infighting whether it's santa's first trump you know stuff like that but i just like

01:38:48.840 we could focus like i'm worried about cyborgs you know right we got the roomboats but like

01:38:52.800 there's other things well we're going to talk about that so you know after this we're going

01:38:56.260 to do another episode and it's a much uh different one where we've got we're going to dream

01:39:00.320 we're going to take all this talent like space jam energy vampires we got uh i love that movie

01:39:06.740 by the way cyborgs sprinting full speed you know uh around racetracks and all kinds of fun stuff

01:39:11.780 to look at so yeah i mean there are a lot bigger fish to fry and in fact you know tim tim pool

01:39:16.720 came out recently and said politics is fake and gay or politics is theater and i go yeah man

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01:40:07.400 to talk to yourself for an hour you might as well publish it yeah it's been that way for a long time

01:40:14.100 what are you doing i think he feels attacked by alex alex feels attacked by him you know and like

01:40:18.200 dude tim did have alex on his show when no one else would have him yeah that's how i met alex

01:40:22.340 yeah one of my favorite memories of meeting out of meeting alex the first time is uh we're outside

01:40:26.680 of tim's old spot where you were the house and uh alex wanted to interview tim for info wars so but

01:40:32.180 we're all sitting outside there's like lawn chairs and i forget maybe i told you guys the story

01:40:36.280 before but it's so funny to me uh alex and tim are sitting down they're filming it and a hummingbird

01:40:40.920 just comes and floats in front of alex's face like right here that's so funny he goes it's a drone

01:40:44.840 that's real shit freaking died that is so funny and he it was so good yeah sure alex likes to 0.84

01:40:53.780 drink you know i wish he didn't also he's under an insane amount of stress i was gonna say 0.99

01:40:57.720 the stress that he's under if you think tim is under stress like yeah this is uh levels above

01:41:02.800 even tim it's crazy and i love alex's son like rex oh yeah rex rex 23 years old dude super smart

01:41:09.020 yeah like really a good person like i've had on my show i think he's great so you know i'm glad

01:41:15.080 alex has that him in his corner you know like and like that's something i i normally knew of

01:41:18.500 alex of rex from my story with alex was alex we're talking about fatherhood yeah and like

01:41:23.300 raising kids when you would like think this way you know how you do this and like so i heard about

01:41:27.320 rex but now i like know i'm like oh yeah that's sick so there's a good history between these guys

01:41:32.200 and i'm i like to think that they just stopped doing it i would love to honestly i would love

01:41:36.400 to see a yeah a day where like tim you know puts down the beanie and goes hey man like this is

01:41:41.580 because he jokes about it he's like i'm gonna go live in a van down by the river it's like

01:41:44.580 yeah man if politics really is that you either you either do something else yeah because that

01:41:49.560 if that's what you think right and your whole world is is revolving around it what's that do

01:41:53.400 to you inside well let's let's uh wrap it up on here i kind of this is a question that i have for

01:41:57.640 myself and i me and david talk about all the time too we joke around like we've been doing nephilim

01:42:01.960 desk off for like three years like four years when are we gonna retire yeah like a high school

01:42:06.020 term for four years we're up but like when do you get out when are you done doing what you're doing

01:42:12.100 yeah are you ever done i asked clint russell this and he was like no like he's gonna die behind the

01:42:18.060 mic and i'm like oh i don't know if i'll do this forever like i love the conversations

01:42:23.160 my thing i always want to just write books like i don't mind i don't mind not traveling

01:42:27.800 you know like i love getting i love driving around i do love seeing the country that way i think when 0.72

01:42:32.660 you fly flying right now it's degenerate yeah you know you miss a lot of shit i like seeing the 0.56

01:42:37.480 country you know like like these stories in the book i get to travel around i did do a lot of 0.96

01:42:41.380 flying more than i have in my life but i'm also driving a ton yeah and really seeing how policies

01:42:46.280 affected these places how religion's looking the different you know denominations here and there

01:42:50.900 like i have all these different conversations about everything and you don't get that when

01:42:53.980 you're just flying you know but um i just want to write books and be my family you know and do

01:42:58.820 whatever i gotta do to help feed the kids and podcasting is great talking is great conversation

01:43:04.020 is great i could probably do it forever because i also look at someone like thomas soul who i

01:43:07.600 probably don't agree with on a lot these days you know because he seems to be like he's kind of

01:43:10.740 captured by a certain mindset yeah he was stuck in back a day but he's also a genius and he's like

01:43:14.860 96 or 97 but he's still doing it you know you still say still get him in front of my phone he

01:43:19.400 is smarter than me yeah uh he's great and i've always been a fan of his so you know you could

01:43:24.000 do this forever um but for me i know for sure i want to write you know i'm always going to be

01:43:29.200 looking at this stuff because i think it's good to know like what's going on in the world so you

01:43:32.660 can give your kids and your grandkids if you're lucky enough a foundation of how to understand

01:43:36.980 reality around you how everyone's trying to trick you and rob you of your soul and just like you

01:43:42.100 know your foundation is with christ you have the bible i have a really good friend who i talk to

01:43:46.880 all the time about the bible and he does happen to be candidate canadian canadian that's very

01:43:51.220 i'm sorry if you're listening you are man canadian but i love you and uh in spite of it you know but

01:43:58.660 he is uh incredibly theologically smart you know so all these great conversations about it and he

01:44:04.080 just told me something i always think about and i tell my uh i told my son he's you know the oldest

01:44:07.340 he's 10 i said every answer you ever need is in the bible you know that's something his dad told

01:44:11.780 him. And I think about that all the time. It's so true. Everything you need is in that book.

01:44:17.140 If you, if you drop all that cultural baggage and all that presupposition and you just look at it,

01:44:22.100 yeah, that's it. It's a blueprint to get through human suffering to eternal life. Amen. You know,

01:44:26.740 and that's everything. And then once you, you know, you, you accept Christ and you start rereading

01:44:32.580 the old Testament, then you start seeing Christ all throughout the old Testament. You know, it's

01:44:37.020 the rock in the desert. It's, he's everywhere. That's huge. When you look at all these Gnostics

01:44:41.020 and they go oh it's the demiurge is the is the you know who's trapped us here in the prison 1.00

01:44:44.980 planet and that's the god of the old testament it's like have you read it because if you read

01:44:47.560 it it all points to christ why is the demiurge prophesying the coming of christ it doesn't

01:44:51.680 make any look um i want to do this as we're bringing it to a close here you are now an

01:44:56.980 independent creator um how how in the hell are people going to support you what's what's going

01:45:01.660 on where's the infrastructure that people can go to and support what you're doing so i have an

01:45:04.940 only fans page let's go yeah i'm selling feet pics let's go if you're into sasquatch you'll

01:45:10.520 like the feet pics very nice but no i have uh so the book is at shane cashman.com that'd be a big

01:45:15.400 help because i want to keep writing books and skyhorse is the first like real publisher i've

01:45:19.040 worked with and they've been amazing because i swore off publishing you know after years of

01:45:23.040 writing for like different like more like corporate places sure like the atlantic or the or vice even

01:45:28.280 it's funny to say they're corporate but they are yeah and um you know i swore it off because they

01:45:31.680 sucked and the editors were terrible but i was like you know i want to work with the team again

01:45:35.440 and i really liked skyhorse because they put out um the real anthony fauci book which is

01:45:40.380 it's a horror book

01:45:42.240 it's an RK book

01:45:43.840 I'm like I wish RK was doing

01:45:46.440 different things right now but

01:45:48.120 that book is insane

01:45:49.340 so I always had that in my mind if I ever work with anyone again

01:45:52.160 also I had a literary agent

01:45:54.180 for the first time this is a long answer

01:45:55.980 no no no what the hell is a literary agent

01:45:58.640 so someone who will take

01:46:00.620 who will be a vampire to any money

01:46:02.740 you make

01:46:03.100 but basically someone that should have been helping you get a publishing deal

01:46:06.920 selling your book

01:46:07.900 finding a publisher the middle man

01:46:10.380 you kind of need them to deal with publishers like a Scribner or something big. Right. So I

01:46:15.040 was stoked after 15 years of trying to have one, even though knowing they would take a cut,

01:46:20.000 but that's worth it if they can help you get a book. Yeah. Yeah. But then, like I said,

01:46:23.860 the book deals would lead to them having like a gatekeeper, a middleman editing the story.

01:46:27.580 It's not you anymore. It sucks. So I had this literary agent and I went to him with the idea 0.99

01:46:33.580 for good villains. And he said, this is too controversial. No one's going to want to read

01:46:38.740 this and um flippantly and condescendingly told me maybe someone like skyhorse would do it i was

01:46:45.740 like oh dope you're fired and i'm gonna go to skyhorse on my own yeah and uh i found an editor

01:46:50.660 there and they were super cool and they let me say everything you know there you go and like

01:46:56.160 tony lyons runs it and he's uh he's a good dude and like he's um you know he was recently because

01:47:00.900 they announced like him and tucker and like milo have something going another like imprint so you

01:47:06.280 know i don't know what world tony runs in but i know he knows a lot of bigger people right and i

01:47:10.240 talk a lot of smack on a lot of bigger people even rfk you know burning bridges out there i'm not

01:47:15.640 trying to burn bridges i'm trying to make them happen but you know i'm just speaking as truthfully

01:47:20.600 as i can that's it and i have issues but i supported rfk like i love i love a lot of the

01:47:24.460 ideas he has but you know like i said once you're absorbed in the administration so anyway i've been

01:47:28.660 not censored and feel like i have to self-censor so it's been a really nice uh working with them

01:47:32.860 so that's out september 1st you can pre-order it now uh to help me directly help me keep reporting

01:47:38.580 and all this good stuff traveling editing uh feeding my lovely kids and wife uh shane cashman

01:47:44.200 dot substack.com you could subscribe there uh there's like a monthly thing but everything's

01:47:49.540 free always like i kind of maybe that's a bad business model probably is yeah but um i put

01:47:53.420 everything out there when i write these stories i i want the stories that i write to just be

01:47:57.740 available sure you know so people they can donate if they want like a one-time donation they can

01:48:02.020 subscribe and uh for now it's that's what i'm doing but i'm working on some other things what's

01:48:06.260 going on we got a show coming soon or what uh not sure we're still kind of figuring out where

01:48:10.040 inverted world is going to be if it's even going to be i'm pulling for you in florida maybe there's

01:48:15.560 been lots of conversations about it and i don't know what's going on with it you know i've never

01:48:19.200 assumed it would be mine because it's it's always been right it would just be great if it was i love

01:48:23.920 that channel i love that audience i put a lot of effort into it two books through it two of them

01:48:28.200 right here um i i love that and i love the opportunity i had through that but at the end

01:48:32.700 of the day it was always not inverted world though i mean is it going to be something else i do have

01:48:36.520 the shane cashman show on youtube that i never touched okay very recently and people have been

01:48:40.920 very nice and have started to find it and i'm uploading stuff there as well that's great and uh

01:48:45.360 i do have a few other things that i'll be launching soon one of them is like an investigation that my

01:48:49.780 wife and i've been working on for like six years about like child abuse okay crazy place um that

01:48:54.860 will be insane and then i'm starting another show uh that i just started recording but they're like

01:48:59.880 mini docs that take me a little longer okay but it's like that's more music it's about music or

01:49:04.040 comedy and it's just that's right you were telling me about that that's an interesting angle so i'd

01:49:07.100 be sick you know i've done the first one should be ready hopefully next month at some point i

01:49:12.420 talked to one of my favorite bands about it and right yeah it's gonna be sick so it's a fun one

01:49:16.760 and something different as much as i love politics i could talk about like art you want to do yeah

01:49:22.160 that's huge that's huge yeah so people have been very nice and very supportive and i appreciate

01:49:26.540 that and you guys are the best like i love doing your show well you're always going to have the 0.95

01:49:30.760 support of nephilim death squad and all the dangerous retards so you just you know build 0.97

01:49:35.040 it and they'll show up and i'm now that i'm unemployed i'm probably going to sleep back here 0.99

01:49:38.420 yeah that's fine actually there are people do sleep on the couch it will be me now i'd be the

01:49:44.100 guy on the couch that's perfect that's perfect um all right well we got another one to do so

01:49:48.340 let's leave some gas in the tank and let's bring this in that's right guys thanks for showing up

01:49:51.580 Until next time, don't forget to obey, submit, and comply.

01:49:54.640 We'll see you later. 0.78

01:49:55.000 They bred with daughters of men, and they will do it again. 0.90

01:50:04.780 The end is written in the book, in the pages they foresaw. 0.99

01:50:12.760 That's why.

01:50:16.400 That's why.

01:50:20.220 That's why.

01:50:21.580 When the last trumpet sounds.

Nephilim Death Squad - August 31, 2026

Good Villains w⧸ Shane Cashman

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