Order of Man - November 11, 2026


A Son Joining the Military, A Job Outsourced to AI, and Dealing with a Cheating Friend ｜ ASK ME ANYTHING

JIM CAVIEZEL ｜ Pick the Right Fight. Stand on Principle

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00:00:00 Like if they make a snarky comment, you say, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
00:00:03 Can you repeat that?
00:00:04 That's one tactic.
00:00:05 Another tactic is, did you mean for it to come out that way?
00:00:08 The minute somebody puts it on you, they're trying to make you the center of attention.
00:00:13 They're trying to make you the butt of a joke.
00:00:15 But if you make them the center of the tension and turn them into the butt of the joke, people don't like that.
00:00:21 People who do this don't like that.
00:00:22 So if you say, I'm sorry, did you mean for that to come out that way?
00:00:26 Because I can't imagine you meant it to be insulting.
00:00:30 What it does is it actually puts the highlight back on them and they're like,
00:00:33 and what they'll usually do is, oh yeah, you know what? I shouldn't have said, I'm sorry.
00:00:40 Kip, what's up, man? Good to see you. I've been gone for a little while and I'm leaving again
00:00:44 in a couple of days. It's a busy time of year. It's all good stuff. I'm hunting and it's all
00:00:50 been good stuff, but I appreciate you and Sean holding down the fort last week.
00:00:53 absolutely how did your you did a podcast with vortex yeah i did a podcast i went on yeah so
00:01:01 joe hamilton their ceo i went on his podcast uh called care create a rare experience which they
00:01:07 do i mean i've got stories for days about my personal experience with their customer service
00:01:13 department but also just being there there was a guy that came in while i was there and he brought
00:01:18 in this box and one of the customer service guys grabbed the box and I was talking with Joe at the
00:01:24 time and he came up to us. He's like, Hey, sorry to interrupt, but check this out. And in that
00:01:28 cardboard box, there was like eight to 10 rifle scopes, Vortex rifle scopes. And apparently the
00:01:35 guy's barn burned down and burned all these optics and they were all just charred and melted and
00:01:42 warped and everything else. And Vortex's warranty says we'll cover them. So Joe's like, oh, that's
00:01:49 awesome. And again, this is the CEO. This is the son of the founder of Vortex. And he's like,
00:01:54 that's awesome. Here, hold it real quick. And he took a picture because he wanted to post it on
00:01:58 Instagram and they replaced every single one of his scopes like that. No questions asked. It was
00:02:04 crazy. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah. There's just really cool stories of what those
00:02:08 guys do from all my rifles are vortex dude it's i've never owned any other optics they're amazing
00:02:14 it's the largest optic manufacturer in the world there's other competitors and they'll even say
00:02:18 like these guys make great optics but they don't have the warranty they don't have the rare
00:02:22 experience that we've been able to create and that's why they outpace their competitors by
00:02:26 leaps and bounds it's crazy yeah that's awesome and we'll look forward to when that gets released
00:02:32 yeah yeah um i told the guys who are going hunting with us in massachusetts next week
00:02:37 or i told vortex we were and he's like let me send you guys some stuff so he sent every single
00:02:42 hunter a range finder a pair of binoculars just because like they just take care of their people
00:02:47 man that's wild it's wild that's that's really cool so yeah and i i will say about hunting too
00:02:54 i don't appreciate you and sean you know making fun of me or getting after me about not being on
00:02:58 the podcast when i'm hunting um i will say this to me the reason i wasn't there is i'm just more
00:03:04 it could go one of two ways either i'm a more dedicated hunter than sean is or it could be
00:03:10 that he tagged out way earlier because he's a better hunter than me so it could have been either
00:03:14 one yeah well really what this is and we know this is to be true is he's probably hunting on
00:03:20 his property in his backyard yeah yeah and he does and you and i for us to have a week-long sit like
00:03:27 that it's pull a tag in in the western states in utah which is a lottery and who knows that's
00:03:34 nearly impossible and you might have to drive somewhere impossible to to get uh a spot to sit
00:03:40 or we travel out of town right so you know yeah shot has the luxury he's got a pretty uh cool
00:03:47 setup in his barn he's got like an overlook outside of his barn on the second or third floor
00:03:54 of his barn and i think if i understand correctly his youngest son shot his first deer out of that
00:03:59 place so they they kind of created a blind right there and it's in the barn and they shoot out of
00:04:03 I'm like, that is awesome.
00:04:05 I envy that.
00:04:07 It's kind of cheating.
00:04:08 Yeah.
00:04:09 I mean, it could be. 0.96
00:04:10 Shoot from your bedroom window.
00:04:12 Yeah, I mean, it could be, but also it's cool to have a property like that and to put in
00:04:17 the work and have the things that you want, man.
00:04:20 So it's awesome.
00:04:21 Yeah, it is cool.
00:04:23 It is cool.
00:04:23 Yeah.
00:04:24 Awesome, man.
00:04:25 Well, do you have some wholesome segment or hop right into questions?
00:04:30 We can hop right into questions.
00:04:31 Actually, I will say something that I think is wholesome. You know, obviously, conservatives just took a shellacking over the past past couple of weeks and during midterms. And that's not wholesome. That's the antithesis of wholesome, I think. But it is it is a repudiation of Trump's policies.
00:04:50 You know, and it seems to have deviated from America first to foreign interests first, foreign wars.
00:04:58 And then the whole tariff fiasco was a nightmare.
00:05:01 And, you know, you see Trump's approval ratings just decline, decline, decline, decline ever since what he called Liberation Day, which is the tariff day.
00:05:09 It hurt a lot of people and it continues to hurt a lot of people.
00:05:12 So that was it.
00:05:15 That was an answer back.
00:05:15 It is interesting to me how many people are celebrating it.
00:05:18 I get the repudiation. I understand that. But you're celebrating the boat going down while you're on it. I just can't wrap my head around why you would gloat and celebrate that. I don't know. It's interesting. But that's beside the point.
00:05:36 The wholesome part that I wanted to talk about is we actually had a really, really productive call inside of our Brotherhood, the Iron Council, this morning. Were you on the call, Kip? I know you host one later today.
00:05:47 I wasn't on this morning.
00:05:48 No, it would have been very easy to get into the political arena and everybody's like, well, what do we do about it?
00:05:56 Do this and do that.
00:05:57 And what you often see is guys are like, we're going to have to bring out the pitchforks and civil war.
00:06:02 And it's like, well, well, well, hold on.
00:06:04 Like maybe there's some other things that we can do here.
00:06:07 So on the call this morning, we talked about 10 things that you can do within the walls of your home and your neighborhood and community.
00:06:14 And it was such a powerful discussion about showing up as an example, serving the people in your neighborhood and communities, getting to know them by name, mowing their grass if they need help, look after their place if they're gone, serving in the community with the youth and coaching and mentoring.
00:06:34 So we went through 10 different steps, buying local, the importance of buying local.
00:06:39 And I just thought it was a really productive conversation when most of the conversations
00:06:44 that are taking place right now are just bickering and fighting back and forth and even
00:06:50 infighting between parties, which, you know, I get wrapped up in at times, but like, what
00:06:55 do we actually do about it?
00:06:57 And it was really cool to be able to have that conversation with high caliber men, something
00:07:01 that was productive.
00:07:02 and I challenged all the guys, like, go serve in your neighborhood. And some people might say,
00:07:07 well, you know, Ryan, that's not enough to change the political landscape. What are you talking
00:07:12 about? Of course it is. Now, if it's just you doing it, it may not be. But Kip, if it's you
00:07:17 and your community, it's me and my community, it's 10 other guys we get on board, that turns
00:07:22 into 100, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, a million, 10 million people across the country, all serving
00:07:29 their communities, all participating in community meetings, school board meetings, local governance,
00:07:36 serving their neighbors, caring about people, knowing their names, protecting themselves,
00:07:40 looking after each other. Those are the kind of things that I think are going to move the needle
00:07:45 the most when it comes to not just culture in general, but the political landscape that so
00:07:51 many of us are disenfranchised by. So it was a good conversation. And if guys are interested in
00:07:57 having productive conversations with guys who can actually agree and disagree respectfully and
00:08:03 mutually and, and honorably check it out, go to order a man.com slash iron council. So I guess
00:08:09 that would, that's what I would say is wholesome on the fly. I love it. I love it. And not just
00:08:14 join the iron council, but maybe even another option is we, you host a open to the public call
00:08:20 every month or so it's called the war room. So we have one of those coming up on the 18th of
00:08:26 November. And so, you know, no obligation, uh, go to order man.com slash war room, register,
00:08:32 grab a seat and join the conversation and, uh, see, get a almost, I think the war room gives a
00:08:38 pulse of the kind of conversations that we have in the iron council. So that's a really good way
00:08:42 to kind of get a feel for what we're about. Yeah. And I think the last call we did in October,
00:08:47 I want to say there was probably 80 guys on that call. Um, the first one we did,
00:08:51 there was 120 something men on that call. So you're getting a lot of different looks and
00:08:56 conversations from people. And it just goes to show how many men are interested in productive, 0.77
00:09:01 relevant conversations that are going to help them improve their lives.
00:09:05 Yeah, absolutely. All right. Well, let's hop into our questions. Our first question from
00:09:09 Wade Callister. He says, my son is 17 and just told me he wants to enlist in the Marines after
00:09:15 graduation instead of going to college. Part of me is proud. Part of me is terrified. I never
00:09:20 served. So I don't feel like I have a standing to talk him out of. I don't have a standing to
00:09:27 talk him out of it or into it. How do I guide him without making it about fears?
00:09:35 I mean, why do you need to guide him to what he's going to do with his life? He just,
00:09:39 is he 17 or 18? I can't remember what he said. 17. I mean, at this point, I don't know why
00:09:45 you might be talking him in or out of that. Now, if he's going to do something completely
00:09:52 reckless and dumb, and some people might say that is, but I don't think that is, then yeah, 0.86
00:09:58 I'm going to tell him, Hey bud, like, let's consider this. Let's think about this a little 0.99
00:10:01 bit. But what I would do more so than even trying to coax him in or out of what you're,
00:10:07 what you're talking about is just have an open, honest, curious conversation with him.
00:10:14 Hey, bud, tell me about the Marine Corps. Tell me why that's appealing to you. What do you know
00:10:20 about it? And even ask him, what are the pros that you see? What are the cons? You know, I don't think
00:10:26 at this age, you really should have to steer that conversation one way or the other. I think just
00:10:32 the guidance that you give is by asking questions that he may or may not have considered yet.
00:10:38 And so he might come to the conclusion that after numerous conversations with you, that maybe he
00:10:44 didn't think it all the way through you know maybe he had a couple of buddies that were joining or
00:10:49 maybe the recruiter made it you know painted it in the best positive light um if you're really
00:10:55 adamant about him not joining then i would get some education otherwise you're kind of speaking
00:11:01 out of ignorance so maybe you do have some buddies that have been in the marine corps or another
00:11:06 branch of service have him talk with those guys you know that's one thing that we often overlook
00:11:11 is we think as fathers, it's like, well, I'm the dad. I'm the guy who has to do it all.
00:11:16 Actually at that age, I found with my two oldest boys, one's 15, one's 18, is there are men in
00:11:24 their lives who aren't me that actually have more sway and influence in some ways than I do.
00:11:30 I'm a little too close to home a lot of times and that becomes hard. But if you get somebody
00:11:35 that he truly admires and respects and looks up to, to have a conversation with him, it might land
00:11:41 a little differently than the way you might be able to have a conversation with them.
00:11:44 So never be too arrogant, egotistical, or prideful to get other high caliber men involved
00:11:50 in your boys' and girls' lives.
00:11:53 Yeah.
00:11:53 I love what you said, Ryan, about, you know, our influences is weighing at this age.
00:11:58 I mean, it's kind of funny.
00:11:59 Someone mentioned this to me, I don't know, you know, months ago where it's like, look
00:12:04 back at when you were 17, you know, 18.
00:12:07 was there anything that your parents would have said that would have changed the direction of
00:12:12 your decisions? And when you look at it, you're like, no, not really. Like I would have listened
00:12:19 out of respect, but it wouldn't have made a difference. I, I, I decided. I remember. So I
00:12:26 was, I was either 17 or 18. That's my senior year of high school. And my mom came to me and said,
00:12:33 I think I was going out for the weekend and she said, you know, be home at 11 or whatever she said.
00:12:39 And I said, no, I'll be home around midnight. And she said, excuse me? I said, I said, I'll be home
00:12:47 around midnight. And she said, no, you're going to be home at 11. I said, no, I'm not. I have good
00:12:53 grades. I'm performing well in sports. I'm staying on top of everything. I joined the military. I
00:13:00 have a plan for after school I'm I'm doing fine and I'll tell you what if that stuff starts to
00:13:07 fade or wane then I'll abide by your curfew but until then I'm I'm not going to be home at 11
00:13:14 and I wasn't it was a little rebellious for sure but it wasn't it wasn't uh disrespectful I wasn't
00:13:22 I wasn't rude I wasn't yelling I wasn't making a scene out of it I just said no I'm not doing that
00:13:27 there just comes a point in time where, I mean, a 17, 18 year old kid, I mean, it's his life right
00:13:35 now. And what I would be focused on with, with you in particular, and also guys listening who
00:13:40 have younger kids is giving them some authority and autonomy over their schedule within reason,
00:13:47 you know, let them experiment, let them try. The biggest thing that the biggest,
00:13:52 the three biggest determinants of success are very simply this, and it's wild. Graduate high
00:13:58 school, get to work, and don't have children out of wedlock. If you do those three things,
00:14:08 your chances of having economic success in this country skyrocket relative to somebody who
00:14:15 misses even just one of those marks. So your job really is to get your kid to finish high school,
00:14:22 get a job, not get a girl pregnant and stay out of jail. Yeah. If you, if you can do those four 0.98
00:14:29 things, they're going to have success in life. All the rest is an opportunity for them to experiment
00:14:35 with leadership, self-authority, figuring out what, what works for them, what doesn't work for
00:14:40 them and giving them just enough rope that they don't hang themselves necessarily with,
00:14:45 but they might feel the pressure if they make bad decisions.
00:14:47 all right brent kowalski i spent 19 years as a claims adjuster this spring the company rolled
00:14:56 out of an ai system and cut half our our department including me i'm 47 and i've got a
00:15:03 mortgage two kids in high school i keep applying for jobs that probably won't exist in five years
00:15:09 either how do you rebuild when the ground keeps moving under you well i mean the ground's always
00:15:14 moving first and foremost. It doesn't matter if it's AI or somebody younger and brighter,
00:15:19 smarter, or a different direction, or the company goes out of business. It's always moving. And so
00:15:24 we need to be aware of that. It sounds like you're applying for jobs that may not exist in your mind
00:15:29 in five years. Okay. Well, maybe you need to take a position to put, to keep the lights on and put
00:15:35 food on the table. And I would do that. I mean, I'd go, I know guys who have been out of work for
00:15:40 a long time and they won't go get a fast food job because they're like, that's beneath me.
00:15:44 Oh, is it? It's beneath you that you can't pay your mortgage and that you can't put food on
00:15:49 your family's table? That's beneath you? What an arrogant belief. I'll go flip burgers if that's
00:15:55 what it takes. Now, I'm not going to stay there indefinitely. I want to be either running the
00:15:59 store in the next 30 days or have something else lined up. So if you need to take a job that maybe
00:16:06 isn't in your wheelhouse, that maybe doesn't pay you as well, that maybe is going to be
00:16:10 non-existent in five years, fine, do it. Whatever you have to do to make sure your family is
00:16:14 provided for, I would say that's an honorable move that you should not be above doing.
00:16:20 But I would also spend a bunch of time thinking about what work, what line of work, what industries
00:16:27 are going to be hard to replace with AI. And those things all revolve around the human
00:16:34 component of experience they do um i mean even take what we do here with order man and iron
00:16:42 council ai is not going to do a podcast now could it could it put out content and make it look like
00:16:49 a podcast or could it have some sort of animatronic robot or ai pretending to be me yeah probably but
00:16:57 what it can't take away is you and i kept getting together face to face shoulder to shoulder and
00:17:03 going on a hunt together. What it can't replace is the way that I handle a hardship that you might
00:17:12 be dealing with, or I might be dealing with and I need help from you. Anything that has this human
00:17:17 aspect, this human element, it can't be replaced. So what that means is that means claims adjusters
00:17:24 like yourself, attorneys, CPAs, even doctors, that stuff's all on the chopping block. Because
00:17:32 the bulk of the work is not client centric it's activity centric and that can easily be replaced
00:17:40 and probably if we're being honest be done better by a robot than it can by a human so i mean it
00:17:47 should have been automated already before this time right it's just for sure never did it yet
00:17:53 yeah but you know what like a lot of people are afraid of ai because of the shake up and and i've
00:17:59 heard, I can't remember who said it, but they said, you know, we're going to go through the
00:18:04 next 20 years of hardship. There's going to be a big learning curve for us to adjust to AI and
00:18:08 how it's going to be. But you look at any other technology from the development of the computer
00:18:14 to the internet, to even cars, people were afraid of losing jobs and losing opportunities. But
00:18:19 something else came along that allowed us to be much more efficient and effective. So in the
00:18:24 meantime, what I would say is get your work done, get a job so you can provide, save money. So if
00:18:30 you get yourself into a hardship down the road in five or 10 years, you've got a nest egg built up,
00:18:35 get out of debt, get your financial house in order. And in the meantime, start exploring
00:18:39 lines of work and occupations and duties and responsibilities and connecting and networking
00:18:44 with people that are working in spaces that are not going to be nearly as impacted by AI or learn
00:18:50 AI. I mean, we implement AI in my business. You know, some people think it's the boogeyman.
00:18:57 You can think that, but it's going to replace whatever you're doing. So I spent a lot of time
00:19:02 every single day using AI and every single week learning about technology and strategy and
00:19:08 implementation of AI into my business to make it more effective. I'm not going to get left in the
00:19:12 dark because I'm trying to stay out ahead of the curve. Totally. Well, and one thing that Brent,
00:19:18 that you should look at is think of your 19 years as a claims adjuster, um, figure out what the
00:19:23 cross training was, right? What, what are the skill sets that a claim adjuster has that is
00:19:28 transcendent across, uh, different industries as well as like job verticals. Cause sometimes we
00:19:34 get wrapped up in this idea of like, Oh, I'm a claims adjuster identity, 19 years. I can't get
00:19:40 a job. It's like, no, no, no. Like get really clear. Like what were you good at? Where are
00:19:45 your technical skills? What elements of claim adjusting is transcendent into other job markets
00:19:51 and figure that out? Because you've been cross training. You're great at other sports. You just
00:19:55 don't know what those other sports are until you sit down and get really clear on it.
00:20:00 Yeah, that's a good point. What do you think would be some applicable skills or other verticals that
00:20:06 he might look into? I think, for example, as a claims adjuster, two things that immediately come
00:20:12 of mind is you're probably, probably fairly detail oriented. You know, you're looking at
00:20:16 details of the case and figuring out what, what needs to be paid out and what is your responsibility
00:20:21 and what is not. So attention to detail. I'd also probably assume that you're pretty creative to
00:20:26 thinking about creative solutions. So not only take care of your client and customer,
00:20:30 but also take care of the business, you know, be prudent with the business resources as well.
00:20:35 So I don't know. Do you have any thoughts on what verticals or what avenues might,
00:20:40 appeal to something like that. No, I agree with you. I think those same areas, like you're probably
00:20:45 really great with dealing with people, you know, finding solutions, working through,
00:20:50 you know, problem solving skills are probably pretty solid. Your, your level of autonomy
00:20:56 and leadership and influence is probably fairly high as a claim adjuster as well. So
00:21:00 these are transcendent jobs. Now the unfortunate part for you, Brent, and this is where the
00:21:05 networking comes in is the job market still does the very thing that it shouldn't be doing. 0.99
00:21:11 And most organizations, they're retarded in their recruiting departments. And what they'll do is 1.00
00:21:17 they'll say, well, we're looking for someone with a progressive experience in this area for the last
00:21:23 15 years. But what they don't say is we need someone with this type of work ethic, these types
00:21:28 of mindsets, and these specific skills. We don't give a crap if you've been in this industry 0.77
00:21:33 specifically for 15 years. They think that matters. It doesn't actually. So you might have 0.99
00:21:39 to do a much better job than just going to the market and finding these boxes that people are
00:21:45 trying to put you in and applying for them, which goes back to what you said earlier, Ryan,
00:21:50 you need a network. You need to be out there communicating with people. And let's be honest,
00:21:56 what job would you rather have? The one that you applied for, by the way, that gets screened with
00:22:02 hundreds of other applicants, or an opportunity that comes through a relationship with someone
00:22:07 you know. It's the latter. So you got to, don't be like everybody else and just fall into the
00:22:13 system and just do mass submissions of job applications. I would double down on the
00:22:18 networking for sure. Well, and who would those people rather hire, right? They'd rather hire
00:22:23 somebody they know too. So if I'm you or anybody in this situation, I'm going to be at B&I Business
00:22:29 Network International. I'm going to be at Rotary. I'm going to be at Chamber. I'm going to be at
00:22:33 all the business luncheons, the small business development programs, the SBA offices in town.
00:22:39 I'm going to be hustling out there and networking. I do that currently and you should do that. If
00:22:45 anybody's listening who has a job, it's like part of your job should be networking, not only for
00:22:49 your business, but also for yourself because something like this might happen. Yeah. All right.
00:22:56 Nate Rules, I've been hiding, um, hiding. I'm like, I pause. I'm like, is he hiding? Really?
00:23:01 Okay. I've been hiding about 30,000 in credit card debt from my wife. It started small and
00:23:08 snowballed. And now it's been almost two years of lying about it. I know I have to tell her,
00:23:12 how do I own it without blowing up my marriage? Well,
00:23:18 the way that most men make mistakes when they have to come clean about something
00:23:25 is they think that just coming clean about the thing is the bulk of the job or the responsibility
00:23:31 so for example you have to come clean about this credit card debt and you do have to come clean
00:23:36 you know that or if you feel inclined to share an addiction that you might have pornography or
00:23:43 substance abuse most men what they'll do is they'll say hey babe here's this thing i'm dealing
00:23:48 with, and then they'll just stare like a deer in the headlights waiting for her response.
00:23:54 I found that the best thing you can do when you need to have these discussions, and I commend you
00:23:58 for wanting to have the discussion, you need to have the discussion, is you need to do two other
00:24:03 things other than just confess. We talked a little bit about this a couple of weeks ago,
00:24:08 the repentance process. I mean, that's kind of what this is. You need to repent of your
00:24:12 wrongdoing. Part of it is admitting that you have a problem and then addressing the people that are
00:24:18 impacted by the bad decisions you've been making, which in this case would be your wife.
00:24:25 And make amends is next. So you're making amends by telling her and getting yourself back in
00:24:32 integrity. And then the last part of the repentance process is commit to changed behavior.
00:24:40 so but but committing to change behavior doesn't say hey babe i'm going to change
00:24:46 that's not a commitment to change behavior commitment to change behavior is coming up
00:24:51 with a plan an actual plan for how you're going to do it and then following through on the plan
00:24:58 that you suggested so i promise you that this will go over way better if instead of just saying
00:25:03 hey, babe, $30,000 of credit card debt, I'm sorry, to hey, babe, $30,000 of credit card debt,
00:25:12 I'm sorry, I can see how I was wrong. Here's what led to those decisions. And here is my strategy
00:25:19 for fixing this. And so that strategy might entail you picking up a couple extra shifts
00:25:26 once or twice a week and then applying it all towards debt. It might require you to
00:25:34 take some money out of savings or a 401k or something. It might require you to downgrade
00:25:40 your vehicle. You know, if you've got an $80,000 truck and you go to her and you say, look, I'm
00:25:46 sorry, I messed this up, but part of my plan is I'm going to sell the truck and I'm going to buy
00:25:52 a 35, $40,000 truck. And I'm going to use the difference to pay off the debt. Like you have
00:26:01 to make sacrifice. And when you come to her and you come with a plan and she sees you implementing
00:26:06 it, and I would implement it today. I'd start right now. And you can tell her, Hey babe, for
00:26:11 the last two weeks, um, I've been thinking about how I need to tell you this, but also I want you
00:26:15 to know I've already hammered down $500 worth of this $30,000 of debt by selling my golf clubs and
00:26:21 selling a few firearms and cleaning up the garage, like whatever you're going to do,
00:26:26 communicate it to her and then do it. That's how I would suggest going about it.
00:26:32 Yeah. And great job, Nate, for addressing it. Right. Like, I don't know, not to
00:26:37 blow smoke or criticize other people, but like most people have an excuse for it. Right. It's
00:26:43 like, well, I'm 30 K in debt, but it's because of X, Y, Z. And you know what I mean? And they've
00:26:47 justified it and they're not doing anything about it. So, you know, respect for you for like owning
00:26:51 it and saying, Hey, you know, I'm being dishonest here and I need to come clean, address it and
00:26:56 move forward. So, you know, get on the path, man. It's awesome. I don't think, I mean, you,
00:27:02 you tell me if you think I'm wrong, Kip, I don't think you confessing $30,000 worth of debt is
00:27:07 going to blow up the marriage. I want to give you a little peace of mind with that. I don't know
00:27:11 how else the marriage is. If it's already fractured, it's going to create some real problems,
00:27:15 but if it's otherwise healthy, uh, yeah, she's going to be pissed for sure. And she has every 0.99
00:27:21 right to feel that way. You would feel that way if she did the same thing to you. But I imagine 0.98
00:27:26 all things considered that she's supportive, that she loves you, that she knows you'll get it taken
00:27:31 care of, that you have a plan for addressing it. So don't come with excuses. You might talk about
00:27:39 some of the reasons. You might talk about some of the things that led up to poor decision-making,
00:27:42 but don't come up with excuses, correct the behavior, show her the plan, start implementing
00:27:47 and um just keep her in the loop hey babe yeah that thirty thousand dollars we talked about two
00:27:53 months ago it's twenty seven thousand dollars right now just wanted you to know you're not
00:27:57 looking for attaboys or pats on the back you're just keeping her apprised so she knows it's not
00:28:02 getting worse and that it's actually being handled yeah totally all right curtis lindgren
00:28:08 my 19 year old daughter is dating a guy i can't stand he's not dangerous just lazy no direction
00:28:14 and he talks down to her in ways she doesn't seem to notice every time I say something she
00:28:20 pulls further away do I keep my mouth shut or is there a way to speak up that doesn't push her
00:28:25 into his arms yeah how old is she 19 19 oh yeah so she's an adult
00:28:33 um yeah I would tread lightly with talking with her about it um you know I might I might bring
00:28:42 some things up occasionally you know um i i wouldn't i wouldn't trap her anywhere when you do
00:28:48 that meaning like hey hey can i take you to breakfast or something and then you talk all
00:28:55 about that at breakfast and then she feels blindsided but yeah i might i might give her a
00:29:00 call occasionally all the time and just say hey bud like i've been thinking about you um you know
00:29:07 you know how I feel about so-and-so and it's frustrating to me because I care
00:29:12 about you. And I want you to be safe. I want you to be happy.
00:29:16 I want you to partner with somebody who's going to create a good life with you.
00:29:19 That's what I want for you. You're a big girl.
00:29:22 You can make your own decisions,
00:29:23 but I just want you to know when I do bring these things up,
00:29:25 it's because I care about you. It's because I love you.
00:29:28 I don't want to control you.
00:29:30 I don't want to drive you into somebody's arms that I don't get along with.
00:29:33 I mean, you could even tell her that just be honest with her,
00:29:36 but say, this is why I share these things. So if I ever overstep, let me know. And if it's okay
00:29:41 that I bring these things up every once in a while, I would like to know that too. And maybe
00:29:45 she would be reasonable about that, if you're honest. I would also spend a lot of time getting
00:29:50 to know this young man. I would. I mean, the reality, and I've talked about this, is he might
00:29:57 become your son. So you should probably start treating him that way. Now, are you going to go
00:30:04 you know, spend an afternoon with him behind your daughter's back? No. But if you're at a
00:30:09 family outing or something like that, you know, there might be a moment where you can pull him
00:30:12 aside and say, Hey, look, Steve, like, um, you know, again, I would be honest with him too. I'd
00:30:18 say, look, we know how we feel about each other. It hasn't been the best between you and me,
00:30:23 but I'd like that to change. You're in my daughter's life. And, and whether that's for
00:30:27 the next short term or whether that's forever, um, I would like to see how we can build a
00:30:33 relationship. And, um, I want to make sure that, that, you know, that I care about her and I care
00:30:38 about you and, and I'm here to support both of you guys and bring him into the fold a little bit,
00:30:43 because maybe, maybe he just needs a chance. You know, maybe he needs a fatherly figure. Maybe he
00:30:49 needs somebody who, who believes in him to some degree, um, who will invite him. And I promise
00:30:54 the more that he knows you and respects you, uh, the more likely it is that he's going to
00:31:00 take that into consideration as he treats your daughter, his, his partner.
00:31:05 Totally.
00:31:06 Totally.
00:31:06 Didn't you, didn't you experience that in high school?
00:31:10 I mean, I know these are 19 year olds, but like, do you, do you remember that in the
00:31:13 high school where if you're dating a girl based upon how her dad was and the family
00:31:19 dynamic kind of altered how you treated his daughter?
00:31:24 I mean, it absolutely made, made an effect to things.
00:31:28 And, and there are certain cases where you're like, you know, I, I need to be more of a
00:31:32 gentleman with this girl, right?
00:31:34 Like open the door and stuff, because I, I, you can sense that her dad has like a high
00:31:38 standard.
00:31:39 So man, I mean, bring them around as much as possible.
00:31:43 Right. 0.64
00:31:43 And double down on that relationship with that daughter.
00:31:45 So that way they're, they're, they're around the environment.
00:31:48 I think so.
00:31:49 I, you know, like if you and your wife are planning on going out, you don't have to do
00:31:52 this every time, but invite your daughter and her boyfriend.
00:31:55 Hey guys, we're going out tonight.
00:31:56 We're going to go hit Chili's, you know, later tonight.
00:31:58 You guys want to come?
00:32:00 And just that proximity is going to be huge. 0.62
00:32:04 And he's going to see the way you treat her.
00:32:05 He's going to see the way that you care about her.
00:32:07 And he's going to be on his toes.
00:32:08 And look, you don't need to intimidate him or bully him. 1.00
00:32:11 I think that's stupid. 1.00
00:32:12 You know, like, oh, you better treat my daughter right. 1.00
00:32:15 It's like, dude, that's going to drive her away and make him more rebellious.
00:32:19 So I'm not saying you need to acquiesce either and be a pushover.
00:32:23 To your point, I was dating a young woman in high school for a couple of years.
00:32:26 And her dad was, he was a no-nonsense guy, but he always treated me with respect.
00:32:32 He never treated me poorly. 0.65
00:32:34 He never, you know, made me feel stupid or threatened me.
00:32:38 I mean, he, but, but I knew, I knew that this is a guy not to be messed with. 0.94
00:32:44 My, my ex-wife's dad is like that too.
00:32:46 He never threatened me.
00:32:47 I didn't come and he wasn't like cleaning his guns when I got there, but he was intimidating
00:32:52 for sure.
00:32:53 Yeah.
00:32:53 And he didn't have to say anything, but I knew that he had respected his daughter and
00:32:57 expected me to do the same.
00:33:00 Yeah, totally.
00:33:02 Jared Pickett.
00:33:03 Last week, I lost my temper over spilled milk and yelled at my six-year-old.
00:33:08 He flinched like he expected me to hit him.
00:33:11 I never have, but my dad did.
00:33:13 And that look on his face wrecked me.
00:33:15 How do I break a pattern I swear I'd never repeat?
00:33:21 Well, is it a pattern?
00:33:22 I mean, you just told us about one instance and you said you've never hit him before.
00:33:26 Maybe the impatience thing is getting to you.
00:33:29 I can certainly understand that.
00:33:31 I mean, I'm not condoning that, but impatience is something that is hard for men.
00:33:37 Also stress, you know, that stress gets transferred.
00:33:41 It's like energy.
00:33:42 You can't create it or destroy it.
00:33:43 You can only transfer it.
00:33:45 And I found that when I get stressed, I transfer it to other people through the way that I
00:33:51 interact with them.
00:33:52 and that might be yelling for you or it might be distance for other people, isolation. Yeah,
00:33:58 we just start treating people differently and that energy has got to go somewhere.
00:34:02 So I would get to the root of why you're feeling the way you're feeling. Like,
00:34:05 why is it that you're stressed out or why are you being impatient? Why are you frustrated with
00:34:09 your six-year-old? Or maybe it's your wife or maybe it's the home dynamic. What is actually
00:34:14 going, maybe it's something at work. What is actually going on? Because when you start to
00:34:19 understand what is going on, you can identify when those triggers come up, which equips you
00:34:25 more effectively of dealing with it. But if you don't know why you do it or when you do it,
00:34:32 how can you address something? It's like watching game film before a sports game.
00:34:37 You watch the film so you know what the other team's going to do so you can prepare yourself
00:34:42 for what might come. But if you go to a game blind, you're going to have no idea why the
00:34:48 their team is doing what they're doing or what plays are running and what plays you're running
00:34:51 and what offense you should run and what defense is going to work best. And the same is true about
00:34:56 self-reflection. So I would literally get a journal out, right? So get a journal and I would
00:35:02 write in there every day, whenever you're feeling stressed, whenever you're feeling frustrated,
00:35:07 whenever something comes up and it's bothering you, write it in the journal so you can start
00:35:14 to look for themes and threads and you might realize like, oh, this is just conditioning
00:35:19 or I yell when I feel disrespected.
00:35:24 Okay. 0.99
00:35:24 So maybe your six-year-old did something silly. 0.98
00:35:27 Maybe he said something to you. 0.93
00:35:29 Maybe he didn't treat his toys the way he should have treated them.
00:35:33 Maybe he didn't clean his room.
00:35:35 I mean, there's all sorts of things.
00:35:37 And you might be translating that into disrespect when it's probably not.
00:35:42 but if you feel disrespected and you know that every time you feel disrespected, you blow up a
00:35:47 little bit. Got it. That's the issue. That's what you need to work on, but you can't do that unless
00:35:52 you spend time thinking about it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to totally take this somewhere else.
00:35:57 Cause I'm kind of curious. Part of me feels, and I'm not justifying, right? I'm not saying like,
00:36:03 Hey Jared, it's okay. That you use your temper. I do think you're blown out of proportion a little
00:36:07 bit. Like I'm repeating the pattern of my parents beating the shit out of me. It's like, dude, 0.98
00:36:11 you lost your temper right like you didn't you know you didn't put your hands on him just because
00:36:15 he flinched you know like you know like that work on it it's good but also don't like blow
00:36:23 this out of proportion however right part of me also goes why would my like i'm thinking about
00:36:29 koa for instance right in this life i yell at koa and if he like flinch i'd be like oh
00:36:33 got it. You're bothered by any type of elevation of like yelling and stuff. And not that it
00:36:43 justifies the yelling, but part of me was like, am I creating environments for this kid to get
00:36:47 little hardened on purpose? Other areas? Does that make sense? Like you also don't want a kid
00:36:54 that's so sensitive that if someone's yelling in the grocery store, they're like, oh, I'm going
00:36:59 get hurt, right? Like, okay. So how do I create that? Now, the answer to this is Jared, not you
00:37:05 losing your temper all the time. That's not how you do this, but is there other scenarios, right?
00:37:11 Where we can actually create some, uh, environments where little Timmy's not so timid by yelling and
00:37:20 by other things. Right. And, and maybe there's an opportunity here for us to create an environment
00:37:25 where we're hardening him a little bit and building some resilience, some mental resilience
00:37:30 for him and eliminating some fear and building some confidence all at the same time.
00:37:35 Yeah, I like that angle.
00:37:37 I mean, I think it's crucial.
00:37:38 I mean, once he starts getting into sports and he should be at this time, you know, six
00:37:42 years old, I think that's about five, six years old is about the time he starts getting
00:37:44 into sports.
00:37:45 I mean, it happens.
00:37:46 I mean, I remember when I went to basic training in 1999, I went to Fort Sill, Oklahoma, and
00:37:53 i could instantly tell who played sports and who didn't the guys who played sports weren't bothered
00:37:59 by a drill sergeant being in their face yelling and spitting all over them because we've been
00:38:03 doing it for 10 i had coaches yelling in my face for 10 years it just wasn't a thing that bothered
00:38:09 me i i wasn't intimidated by it i wasn't afraid of it it just means they are yelling yeah they
00:38:16 were mad they were frustrated sure but yelling doesn't equate to anything else but the ones who
00:38:20 didn't man they'd have a drill sergeant in their face and you could see like tears almost in their
00:38:25 eyes like they'd start like balling up because they're not used to somebody's somebody being
00:38:30 vocal being loud and look it is scary for kids and women when men get loud it's it's intimidating
00:38:36 you know we're bigger than them we're louder than them we have the ability to frankly to hurt them
00:38:43 if we wanted to so it is intimidating but maybe there is some opportunity here of saying hey look
00:38:49 like sometimes dad's going to get loud here's an opportunity for you to follow through before i get
00:38:55 to that place um or getting him involved in sports and around other men i don't know if he's a single
00:39:01 child or not you know that might have something to do with it as well because my youngest kids
00:39:07 see my oldest kids they've all got chewed out in front of them and they're like oh yeah dad still
00:39:12 loves him like he yells at him and then he's good and that's cool so yeah yeah haven't you totally
00:39:19 I've done this so many times where I played sports or I was doing something with my kids
00:39:24 and it started off as like a yelling of like, dude, what are you doing? Like it started in that
00:39:32 spirit. And then I sensed it. Right. I realized like, ah, that's going negative town,
00:39:38 but I kept yelling and I'm like, no, you got this. You got this. And then I like make it
00:39:44 this positive yelling thing. Right. And I kind of pivoted midpoint. You know what I mean? Your
00:39:50 kid needs to see you yell and go, Oh, yelling doesn't translate to abuse. Yeah. Yeah. You know,
00:39:58 and, and, and maybe there's some, I don't know, there's some chance there to, to maybe help Timmy
00:40:03 out. Yeah. I think that's an interesting, and I would agree largely too. So yeah. Yeah. All right.
00:40:08 mason field uh one of my closest friends told me over beers that he's been having an affair
00:40:14 i know his wife well our family's uh vacation together now i can barely look her in the eye
00:40:21 it is is it in my place to say something or do i just hold him accountable and stay out of the rest
00:40:27 yeah no it's not your place to tell his wife that he's having an affair on her like what do you
00:40:34 like that even that responsibility right like even because you don't know what conversations
00:40:40 they've already had you don't know what she knows or what she doesn't know i mean i would i would
00:40:45 lean into him you know if it were you kip i'd be like dude like what like how how much does your
00:40:51 wife know have you talked with her about it well what does she have to say what do you what are
00:40:56 you doing to work on it how are you trying to fix it what can i do to help you who's this other
00:41:00 chick like how would we get you to stay away from her um but no you don't tell his wife like
00:41:06 no i don't even i don't even have a word for that but that's your that's their business 0.99
00:41:14 he shared that with you in confidence and so if you break that confidence you're being a shitty 0.58
00:41:19 friend straight up now do you like her and care about her yeah sure but again not your place
00:41:27 lean into him pour into him help him be accountable to something to you to his wife to his kids his
00:41:35 family and let the chips fall where they may and also encourage him to at some point properly come
00:41:41 clean about it to his to his wife i don't understand cheating man i don't i do not i
00:41:47 can't i cannot fathom i can't wrap my head around it i mean i i get it you know and i get why guys
00:41:55 are tempted that way but what most men will say oh i just got caught up in the moment no you got
00:42:01 caught up in 10 000 moments leading up to that situation when you hired the hot secretary and
00:42:07 then you stayed at work a little late and then you got a little flirty maybe you got a little handsy
00:42:11 you know hand on the shoulder hand on the arm slowly the hand starts drifting downward i mean
00:42:17 there's a thousand things that happened before you actually had an emotional affair starts even
00:42:22 earlier right than a physical affair so i don't i just do not understand that yeah let me let me
00:42:31 ask you this right because i i can't help but wonder like in a lot of cases like this where
00:42:36 the husband might tell his wife and they're couple's friends and the wife is like a sense
00:42:46 of loyalty like we got to tell the wife we got to tell her that he's cheating on her right and
00:42:52 now a woman might do that dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you shouldn't even tell your wife. 0.83
00:42:58 Yeah. If it's, if it, if, if Mason, if like, if he's like, Hey, like, in fact, we're probably
00:43:04 shouldn't even Mason, you probably shouldn't have used your name on this question. So, but,
00:43:07 but nonetheless, you know, you, you probably, you need to clarify if it's even okay for you to tell
00:43:13 your wife. And if he asked you not to, you respect that. Right. And I've done that with Asia. We've,
00:43:18 we've had conversations where she's like i can't tell you because i promise i wouldn't tell
00:43:23 you know what i mean around something i'm like oh got that right like i respect that
00:43:26 be respectful of it yeah and yeah look you said something interesting you're like oh you might
00:43:32 want to clarify and if he says yes or no or whatever the default is no yeah assume that
00:43:38 as the default yeah as the default so if you didn't have that conversation the answer is no
00:43:43 the only way that you could potentially do that is if he explicitly said yes you can
00:43:50 but because a woman i don't know that i don't know the statistics on this maybe i'm way off
00:43:56 i think a woman is significantly more likely to gossip that way than a man is i i i could be way
00:44:05 off but i imagine that i mean i don't know maybe i'm just speaking out of my you know what right
00:44:10 now. But, um, yeah, I, no, that's not your information to share. He shared it with you
00:44:16 in confidence and it doesn't matter how bad it is. It's not yours to share.
00:44:23 Okay. I'm kind of jumping around since we're coming close on time here. So Dale, uh, let's
00:44:28 go with Dale Hutchins. My wife's family has never respected me. Snide comments about my job,
00:44:35 my truck, how we raise our kids. My wife says that it's just how they are and asked me to let
00:44:40 it go. I've let it go for 12 years. How do I stand up for myself without putting her in the middle?
00:44:47 Well, you haven't let it go for 12 years because you just haven't acted on it. Yeah. Which is fair.
00:44:54 And sometimes you do need to bite your tongue. That's part of the deal. Um, yeah, I, I would
00:45:00 have a real I would have a real frank conversation with her and and I would say hey look babe like
00:45:06 I've I've bit my tongue for 12 years and it's really frustrating and I know you want me to let
00:45:10 it go because you don't want to rock the boat I don't either I actually would rather not have to
00:45:14 have this conversation or not have to deal with this but it's getting to the point now where it's
00:45:19 affecting me I'm I'm getting more and more frustrated I don't want to spend time with
00:45:23 your family like I don't even want to go over there on Christmas I don't want to take the
00:45:26 kids around like it bothers me and i would like to talk with you about what we might be able to do
00:45:32 about it in a respectful way where everybody's happy and and you can talk with her about what
00:45:38 are some of those boundaries you know is it the amount of time that you spend with them but she
00:45:43 should be on your side like she should be the one championing this right now she should be the one
00:45:48 to say hey dad look like and maybe not even in front of you necessarily but hey like when you
00:45:54 when you talk to him about like that like i don't appreciate that as as as his wife
00:46:00 and i don't appreciate you guys undermining him in front of me or the kids like i don't i don't
00:46:07 appreciate that so it it would be better for all of us if we tone back on those comments and let
00:46:14 me tell you what that looks like because people who are like this sometimes they don't know i i
00:46:21 would be willing to bet that your in-laws are probably not even trying to be malicious i'd be
00:46:27 willing to bet but it's coming across that way either one of two reasons or maybe both
00:46:32 some experience you've had in the past with a person who was critical or um harsh or snarky
00:46:42 and and now you're equating their behavior with that person or that experience that you had in
00:46:46 the past or, and, or it's just the way they've always communicated, which is what she said.
00:46:53 It's just the way they are. Well, good. At least, you know, now it's not malicious
00:46:59 because I think if you're attributing malice to it, you're going to be much more likely to be
00:47:04 defensive and frustrated. Um, I mean, I might even joke around with them a little bit because
00:47:10 joking around is disarming. So if your dad says, your father-in-law says, oh man, yeah,
00:47:17 your truck, like things so old and beat up. And it's like, I know, but it gets great gas mileage
00:47:23 or I know, but I've got $90,000 in the bank that I wouldn't if I went out and bought a new truck.
00:47:29 Like you can defend yourself and play back a little bit and have some banter.
00:47:34 I wouldn't go on the attack. I wouldn't say, well, it's better than your truck. That's not
00:47:37 what i'm telling you to do i'm saying just take it and and enjoy it you know it's like oh yeah
00:47:43 you're what what do they say about the job did you say something just like snide comments about
00:47:50 the job nothing specific yeah so it's like if they make a comment about oh yeah your job like
00:47:55 i can't believe people pay you to do that i would say i can't believe it either i'm so fortunate
00:48:00 because if anybody knew how little work i did they wouldn't pay me as much as they do
00:48:05 like that is so diffusing and so disarming that it's like it it just takes away all the power 0.97
00:48:13 and all the potency from some stupid comment that people make so again you're not being 0.98
00:48:19 planning on embracing it yeah well and let's just assume that they were being malicious 0.99
00:48:25 that teaches them that like that malicious comment doesn't work because every single time they do a
00:48:32 jab, if you don't walk away a little bothered, they don't get their payoff, but you just joke
00:48:36 around about it. And then they're like, okay, got it. Like we kind of teach people how to treat us
00:48:41 for 12 years. He's taught them to keep up with the comments and he won't say anything.
00:48:48 Right. Right. And, and, but I want to be really clear and you've already said it is
00:48:52 this is an attack and return. That's not what we're saying, but defuse it by just
00:48:57 playing around with it and joking around about it yeah and you know if they make a particularly
00:49:03 interesting i interrupted you what else were you going to say ryan sorry no uh no you didn't
00:49:07 interrupt um i just thought of something else as you were saying that but if you if they make a
00:49:10 particular interesting comment one one strategy and i learned this from jefferson fisher who's
00:49:15 on the podcast and i'll give you a recommendation here shortly is he says could you repeat that
00:49:20 the question no no that if they make a comment like if they make a snarky comment you say oh
00:49:30 i'm sorry i didn't hear you can you repeat that that's one tactic another tactic is did you mean
00:49:36 for it to come out that way yeah you should go the recommendation i'm going to give to you is
00:49:43 go listen to the podcast i did with jefferson fisher and then go pick up a copy of his book
00:49:48 I can't remember what it's called right offhand, conversations or something like that.
00:49:53 But yeah, he's got so many good ways to diffuse and handle and let people know that you're 0.99
00:50:00 not going to be railroaded without being a jerk about it. 0.98
00:50:02 Because the minute somebody puts it on you and then they're trying to make you the center 0.99
00:50:08 of attention, they're trying to make you the butt of a joke.
00:50:11 But if you make them the center of the tension and turn them into the butt of the joke, people
00:50:17 don't like that people who do this don't like that so if you say i'm sorry did you mean for
00:50:21 that to come out that way because i can't imagine you meant it to be insulting what it does is it
00:50:29 actually puts it the highlight back on them and they're like and what they'll usually do is oh
00:50:33 yeah you know what i'm sorry i shouldn't say i'm sorry yeah so i think you have trained them
00:50:40 And there's ways to do without resorting to their level.
00:50:45 Yeah.
00:50:46 And, and I got to re repeat what you already said, because I think it's really critical
00:50:50 is, you know, he said, my wife's family has never respected me.
00:50:56 Okay.
00:50:57 Well, never, right.
00:50:59 Whenever I hear absolutes, I'm like, okay, now let's be honest, right.
00:51:02 This is probably dramatized a little bit.
00:51:05 I want to say never.
00:51:06 Now, do they say things that offend you and probably considered snide and rude?
00:51:10 Sure.
00:51:10 right? But, but also check your, um, your pride a little bit here in, in the interpretation that
00:51:16 you're, that you're creating and judgment you're putting on them as well. That will, you know what
00:51:20 I'd also pay attention to is do they make the same snide comments to their daughter, your wife
00:51:24 or their other children? Because if they do, then you know, Oh, this is truly how they are.
00:51:31 There's nothing to do with you. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Really good point. All right, Ryan,
00:51:36 I have a hard stop. So really call the action. We mentioned earlier, it's the war room coming up on
00:51:43 November 18th. Correct. 8 p.m. Eastern time. The title is winter is coming. What give us a brief
00:51:53 rundown? What what can we expect on the war room call on the on the 18th? Winter is a metaphor for
00:51:59 hardship. So it could be a bankruptcy or a layoff like one of our askers askeders talked about
00:52:05 earlier. It could be a medical diagnosis. It could be a financial constraint. It could be a
00:52:11 lawsuit or a divorce. Something's going to happen. It's not really a matter of if,
00:52:16 it's a matter of when it happens and what will it be. So we're going to be talking a lot about
00:52:21 how to prepare yourself mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, so that when winter does
00:52:26 come, you're more capable of dealing with, confronting, and moving past for yourself and
00:52:32 for the people you have a responsibility for, your family, your neighbors, your community,
00:52:35 colleagues, coworkers, et cetera. So we'll be talking about how to arm yourself, how to prepare
00:52:40 yourself and how to get through those most difficult times of life. To reserve your spot
00:52:45 and to register, that's orderofman.com slash war room. Once again, 18th at 8 PM Eastern time.
00:52:52 As always connect with Mr. Mickler on X and Instagram at Ryan Mickler. Good to have you back,
00:52:59 sir. Yeah, it's good to be back. And if you guys didn't listen to yesterday's podcast conversation,
00:53:05 it's with, uh, Jim Caviezel. A lot of you guys know, uh, portrayed Jesus and passion of the
00:53:11 Christ. Um, Edmund Dantes in, uh, the count of Monte Cristo and also his newest movie ghost
00:53:19 soldiers coming out as well. So he joined me on the podcast and we had an incredible,
00:53:23 incredible conversation. So make sure to go back to tomorrow. Uh, excuse me, go back to yesterday
00:53:28 and listen to that one.
00:53:30 All right, guys, we'll be back on Friday.
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