Order of Man - September 04, 2026


The Cost of Rescuing Others | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES


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00:00:00.000 Okay, when you rescue other people, and I've got four children, if I swoop in and rescue them from their consequences every time they make a bad decision, I'm removing the blessing of consequence.
00:00:13.960 Because if it isn't painful or doesn't hurt in some way, then you won't learn from it. That's human nature.
00:00:20.380 I made a post on Instagram just the other day that we as men, and humans in general, women as well, we operate through incentives and consequences.
00:00:30.000 Hey guys, I want to share with you something that I think is going to be extremely valuable
00:00:35.280 if you fall into one of three categories in your life. And I want you to understand that
00:00:42.460 the moment, this might seem a little counterintuitive, but the moment that we
00:00:46.800 start to begin to save other people, that comes at an expense, that comes at a cost to you.
00:00:55.360 And I'll explain when and where it's appropriate and when and where it's not appropriate.
00:01:00.000 But it does end up costing you time and peace and potentially your own mission.
00:01:05.620 And I've seen a lot of guys fall prey to this.
00:01:07.540 I've fallen prey to this as well, where we begin to rescue people or even behave in certain ways that not only hurt our own chances of success, but also end up hindering theirs.
00:01:22.640 And what I want you to understand is that rescuing somebody doesn't always mean love for that individual.
00:01:30.000 uh sometimes it's it's a role it's a it's a persona it's something that you're doing maybe
00:01:36.800 even subconsciously to feel better about yourselves in some way and it's called as i was studying and
00:01:44.580 and researching this topic i came across this phenomenon it's called the cartman drama triangle
00:01:49.840 it was identified in 1968 and psychologist cartman identified three roles that are unhealthy
00:01:58.940 that men fall into at times. And I want you to identify if you fall into one of these categories
00:02:06.260 and we can talk about how to take ourselves out of these categories and approach this in a more
00:02:12.380 healthy way. So the first category is somebody who is in playing the victim. Okay. It's, it's poor
00:02:21.300 me. It's woe is me. It's everything's always wrong. Everything's always happening to me. Nobody loves
00:02:27.560 me. Nobody cares about me. If there weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. And that
00:02:33.720 individual feels powerless in their lives. I'm sure that you can quickly identify people who
00:02:40.140 are playing the victim role. Even if it's in the micro, they may not do it all the time,
00:02:45.520 but certainly at some points in their lives. And I'm sure that maybe even if you're honest
00:02:50.360 with yourself, you can identify where maybe you've even played in that victim role. These are
00:02:56.020 individuals who uh it feels like they need rescuing okay and then we have the second category and
00:03:04.280 that's the persecutor okay this is this is the person who says it's your fault it's your
00:03:09.920 responsibility everything bad that happens to me is because somebody else did it right it's your
00:03:16.060 fault you didn't do this right you missed this you missed that and then they critique you and
00:03:21.000 criticize you. And they just make it feel like somebody else is always out to get them. And if
00:03:29.820 they could just fix that person, right? So they're not necessarily rescuing that person,
00:03:34.360 but if they can fix that person, then they'll be the savior, right? And so they need somebody
00:03:41.880 beneath them, so to speak, in order for them to feel important, powerful. And then it comes across
00:03:51.640 as persecution rather than actual help. And then the third category that he identified is the
00:03:58.020 rescuer. Okay, so let me help you. This is an individual who will swoop in, even if they're
00:04:03.900 uninvited, unsolicited, and they're driven a lot of the times by guilt. And again, this need to be
00:04:11.700 needed. You know, I have people in my life who I care about deeply who are the rescuer. And the
00:04:19.080 only time that they feel important or valuable in life is if they're adding value, if they're
00:04:25.840 needed by somebody else, and they're rescuing other people. Okay, but none of these positions,
00:04:32.940 okay, the victim, the persecutor, or the rescuer are actual positions of strength.
00:04:38.860 all three of those are reactive they're not chosen at least they're not chosen consciously
00:04:46.840 and there's reasons why we as men fall into these roles and I want you again to think about your own
00:04:53.700 life and ask yourself if you generally fall into one of these categories or if you have at some
00:04:59.080 point in your life so the rescuer let's talk about the rescuer first this is a this is a man who has
00:05:05.560 been trained from boyhood that worth equals usefulness. This is the category that I often
00:05:12.080 fall to if I'm not careful. Fixing somebody, helping somebody, addressing their problem,
00:05:18.380 even at my own expense, often comes as proof to me that I matter. So I will put my own stuff
00:05:26.180 on the back burner. I will ignore my own responsibilities and even some obligations
00:05:32.940 in order to rescue or help somebody else.
00:05:36.780 And it's tricky because we're taught, right,
00:05:39.120 from boyhood, again, to be useful, to be helpful,
00:05:41.900 to be a contributing member, and we certainly should.
00:05:45.580 But there's a line at which it becomes not only unnecessary,
00:05:49.740 but unhelpful and actually detrimental to your well-being
00:05:54.680 and the well-being of the people that you're trying to serve.
00:05:58.180 So keep that in mind as the rescuer.
00:05:59.620 Now, the persecutor, men are taught to convert their insecurities in life into control.
00:06:08.220 And that's what a persecutor is trying to do.
00:06:10.080 He's trying to control the situation.
00:06:12.860 Okay, it's criticism as a stand-in for power that maybe they don't actually have the authority or the credibility or the influence with other people.
00:06:22.260 and in light of their own sense of inadequacy and inferiority they decide to persecute everybody
00:06:29.760 else because it makes them feel powerful this is the perpetual hall monitor right you give this kid
00:06:37.440 just a little bit of power and it goes to their head and it makes them feel as if they're the ones
00:06:42.500 who reign supreme and that power is typically greatly misused if not outright abused now the
00:06:55.000 third the victim is the role that i think least the least amount of men admit to but again it
00:07:01.960 shows up as nobody helped me so why should i help myself they're used to excuses and justifications
00:07:11.540 and rationalizations, and when they have stalled growth or just none at all, then they default to
00:07:19.500 playing the victim card. It could not have possibly been me for the reason for our lack
00:07:25.000 of success. Now, I think that men often default to the rescuer publicly, while secretly it's the
00:07:34.660 victim narrative that's playing behind. Because we know, right? We know that if we play the victim
00:07:41.340 card publicly, it doesn't always go over well. Now, I do believe in culture, there tends to be
00:07:46.680 a race to the bottom, the victim narrative, the victim points. Who has it worse? And then whoever
00:07:53.140 has it worse is somehow moral or righteous simply because they have some victim points. There's no
00:07:59.780 righteousness in being a victim. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all of us are playing
00:08:04.540 the victim. There are people who are actually truly victimized. And we can be aware of that.
00:08:10.120 We can acknowledge that. And we can still take responsibility for our lives. But what we do
00:08:16.040 publicly is we turn into the rescuer because that's what everybody looks at and says, oh,
00:08:21.760 look at Ryan. Look how great he is. Look how many people he's helping. Look at all the wonderful
00:08:27.000 things he's doing. And behind the scenes, there's some insecurities happening. There's some ego
00:08:33.200 issues happening, there's some control issues happening, and I might not actually be addressing
00:08:39.420 the things that I need to address. And the triangle between the rescuer, the victim,
00:08:47.540 and the persecutor, it's not this static triangle. We cycle through all three of them,
00:08:54.980 oftentimes even in a single conversation. That's why it's really important that we learn to be
00:09:00.280 aware of how we're coming across and how we're presenting and our own thoughts and behaviors
00:09:05.160 because we could very easily slip from rescuer to persecutor, right? If I try to rescue somebody
00:09:11.540 and it's something beyond my control, then the persecutor will come out, right? Well,
00:09:20.480 I couldn't control it. So again, it must not have been my fault. See, that person did that.
00:09:24.500 They deserve that. Guys, the rescuer, and you might even fill in the nice guy here,
00:09:32.300 they will burn out from overgiving. I mean, how many times have you done that in your life? And
00:09:37.600 you may even resort to things like keeping score or covert contracts. We've talked about both
00:09:44.280 because you're frustrated. You're not getting what you need and you're giving, giving, giving,
00:09:50.440 giving all the time at your own expense. And so that rescuer will, again, flip into the
00:09:55.160 persecutor, right? Keeping score. After all that I did for you, after everything that I did,
00:10:01.860 I'm still not good enough. Or you're doing this, or you're behaving that way. That's the persecutor
00:10:07.020 coming out in you. And the persecutor's guilt afterwards, after the fact, can easily flip
00:10:17.000 into the victim. Oh, so I'm the bad guy now, right? Like I've done all this work. So there's
00:10:22.960 the rescuer. I've done all this work and it's still not good enough for you. There's the
00:10:26.900 persecutor. And so all of a sudden, now I'm the bad guy. There's the victim. Three ways of showing
00:10:34.160 up in one single sentence that I'm sure all of us as men have uttered at one point in our lives
00:10:40.280 or another. Okay. The victim, and you've probably heard this about the nice guy as well,
00:10:46.780 manipulates people by guilting them into rescue mode. And then he resents them for treating him
00:10:56.260 as helpless, right? So if I'm a victim and I'm going to make you feel guilty because you didn't
00:11:01.020 step up or do what you needed or show up for me in a certain way, or give me my points or blah,
00:11:04.960 blah, blah, blah, blah, then I'm trying to get you to turn into a rescuer.
00:11:12.260 And then the minute you turn into a rescuer, I'm like, I don't need your help. I don't need
00:11:15.560 anybody's help. I can do it on my own. I don't, you're treating me like a child. You're treating
00:11:20.520 me like I'm worthless or helpless. It's a horrible pattern that we've all slipped into.
00:11:26.260 Okay. It's, it's kind of a closed loop in a way. Everybody's playing a part and everybody's
00:11:32.360 trying to manipulate and massage themselves into certain positions, but nobody's actually
00:11:36.400 solving any problems. And guys, there's a cost of staying in this triangle.
00:11:44.080 Okay, when you rescue other people, and I've got four children, if I swoop in and rescue them from
00:11:50.440 their consequences, every time they make a bad decision, I'm removing the blessing of consequence.
00:11:58.700 And you might say, well, how is consequence a blessing?
00:12:01.960 Well, that's where we learn.
00:12:03.760 Because if it isn't painful or doesn't hurt in some way,
00:12:07.040 then you won't learn from it.
00:12:09.220 That's human nature.
00:12:10.840 I made a post on Instagram just the other day
00:12:12.880 that we as men, and humans in general, women as well,
00:12:16.300 we operate through incentives and consequences.
00:12:19.520 If there's an incentive for me to do something,
00:12:22.060 I'm going to do that thing, or at least be more likely to.
00:12:25.960 if there's a consequence for engaging that behavior, then I'm going to be less likely
00:12:30.880 to do that thing. And I joked and teased and said, congratulations, you now have a PhD in
00:12:36.300 human psychology. But it's true. That's it. That's all you need to know about human beings.
00:12:42.700 Now, there's sociopaths that might fall out of the realm of what I'm talking about.
00:12:48.180 But for the overwhelming majority of us, we operate based on incentives and consequences.
00:12:54.500 and when you remove somebody's consequences then you're hurting them you're crippling them
00:13:00.780 it's like it's like wanting to see your children walk and then coming over and smacking one of
00:13:08.480 them in the leg so that now they're crippled and so can they still walk yeah probably but it's
00:13:13.060 going to be a lot more difficult because they didn't learn the process of getting back up
00:13:18.020 the strength that has developed through pushing themselves back off the ground and walking again
00:13:23.160 they never learn that because you keep picking them up and setting them up it's the same thing
00:13:28.260 with lottery winners now how often do we see lottery winners who will win tens if not hundreds
00:13:33.400 of millions of dollars and be destitute within a matter of a few years if not in a worse situation
00:13:39.840 than before why because they didn't earn the right to that money which means they didn't develop the
00:13:45.900 skill set to have that money which means they never went through the struggle of making bad
00:13:50.340 financial decisions and learning from them making better financial decisions we strip them of the
00:13:56.600 consequences and they don't learn okay time and energy this is another way it hurts you is that
00:14:03.860 the time and energy that's drained from your own household and your own mission can potentially
00:14:11.660 create a problem if you're letting other things fall through the cracks because
00:14:15.640 you're in rescue mode all the time well you have other duties responsibilities and obligations
00:14:23.480 and then there's the last component and that's the resentment that builds up
00:14:27.600 okay it's the unspoken invoice that you expect somebody to pay it's it's the way that they show
00:14:35.280 up it's the way that they treat you it's the way that they engage it's the things that they maybe
00:14:39.280 even give you we call these covert contracts and we don't have any right to be upset with
00:14:45.620 an individual if we never explained to them what we expected. You expect to be told what they expect
00:14:52.000 so that you can make an informed decision as to whether or not you engage in that relationship.
00:14:56.440 And yet all the time, we won't do it for other people. Well, why won't she treat me nice? I did
00:15:02.740 all these things. Or you might even talk about it with your wife when it comes to intimacy. Well,
00:15:08.700 I've been good and I've been doing the dishes and I've been doing this and this and this,
00:15:11.740 and we can't even go into the bedroom
00:15:14.020 and have some intimacy together,
00:15:15.680 that's a covert contract.
00:15:17.680 And you're putting that on people
00:15:19.340 when you haven't even explained to them what the cost is
00:15:22.660 or what the expectation is, I should say.
00:15:25.880 Okay, and then there's the cost of your kids
00:15:27.600 and your spouse when they watch you
00:15:30.840 pour into every single other person except for you.
00:15:35.440 Have you ever had a situation
00:15:36.980 where your wife has either said overtly
00:15:39.680 or mentioned something along the lines of you being willing to do everything in the world
00:15:46.280 except for be there and be president at the house. When I was LDS Mormon, and I'm not anymore,
00:15:53.780 I would watch these young men get called into the bishopric. And the bishopric is essentially
00:15:59.420 the leadership presidency of a neighborhood, essentially a ward is what it was called.
00:16:06.420 and these young men would go into the bishopric and they'd expect these young men to be there on
00:16:12.040 Tuesday night for interviews and be there on Wednesday nights for young men's and young women's
00:16:18.300 programs and be there for not only the three hours of church but there before and thereafter
00:16:23.300 talking with members and you know I can certainly understand that but I had close personal friends
00:16:28.780 who had multiple young babies at home going to school trying to start businesses trying to be
00:16:37.380 helpful for their wives and yet the church who said they espoused the family dynamic was pulling
00:16:43.580 these people out of the opportunity to serve their families the most important people in the world
00:16:49.980 and that's what happens when you start pouring into other people unnecessarily or unreasonably
00:16:57.420 is that your kids watch and see through your actions
00:17:00.540 that other people are way more important than them.
00:17:04.000 So what's the way out of this?
00:17:06.800 There's another phenomenon.
00:17:08.700 It's called the empowerment triangle.
00:17:12.200 I've also heard it called the winner's triangle.
00:17:14.560 And it was developed by a person named A.C. Choi.
00:17:18.980 And it's the antidote to this Cartman model
00:17:22.940 that I've been talking about.
00:17:25.120 And here it is.
00:17:26.200 So A.C. Choi says that victimhood now turns, or excuse me, becomes the vulnerable.
00:17:34.580 And I'm very hesitant, as you guys have heard me in the past, to use that word because it has a meaning and it has a definition, and often we use it differently.
00:17:42.620 I think modern culture continues to lean towards just exposing all your baggage for the sake of doing it as if that's to help, and it doesn't.
00:17:51.340 In many cases, it makes things worse, okay?
00:17:53.840 but when you learn to turn that victimhood mentality into vulnerability the way that
00:18:03.180 i'm explaining it where you could admit struggle you can admit admit that you're having a hard time
00:18:08.440 you could admit that you're uh that you don't have it all figured out without surrendering
00:18:14.320 your agency by the way see that's what modern vulnerability says like oh i'll just say everything
00:18:19.040 bad happened to me when I was a kid and I'm being vulnerable. No, you're being a victim
00:18:25.080 because you're not acknowledging that you still have power over your life.
00:18:30.580 You've heard me talk about the difference between reasons and excuses, right? A reason for something
00:18:37.700 not going well is something you ought to acknowledge. If I have a struggling relationship
00:18:45.020 with my children, there might be a lot of reasons for that. It could be hormones as they get older.
00:18:51.440 It could be something that I've done or something that I've not done. It could be some other
00:18:56.120 influence, whether it's other kids or other adults, maybe even another parent in some cases.
00:19:02.420 But there's a lot of reasons why that relationship might struggle. But if you're doing it correctly,
00:19:09.000 it should just give you data so that you can improve that relationship with your children.
00:19:13.660 That's a reason. An excuse is you just throwing up your hands. Well, you know, they learned this
00:19:19.100 from their mom. And so there's nothing I can do about it. Their mom's talking bad about me. And
00:19:24.380 so, you know, here's what it is. It is what it is. That's not vulnerability. That's just you coming
00:19:30.180 up with an excuse. Vulnerability in the truest sense of the word is identifying a problem,
00:19:35.300 not to hang your hat on, but to identify a problem so that you can do something about it.
00:19:40.700 If I'm a king of a castle and I've got this big, huge, beautiful wall surrounding the village and the castle and it's protecting all the citizens and the people in this realm that I'm responsible for, well, if I'm smart, then I'm going to either go myself or send people out to inspect the wall.
00:20:02.060 and let's say in the east corridor of the wall, I find some faulty bricks or stones and it's
00:20:09.440 crumbling and the foundation is eroding. We would all say that's a weakness. That's a vulnerability,
00:20:14.680 right? In the truest sense of the word. But I don't come to the town folk and say, hey,
00:20:19.480 just want to let you know in the east corridor of the wall, there's a gaping hole that any enemy
00:20:24.700 can sneak through. And yeah, I just want you guys to know. And then I wash my hands and go back into
00:20:29.180 the castle and sleep comfortably on my pillow at night. No, that's not what you would do. What you
00:20:34.040 would do is say, hey, let's get the masons out here. Let's get the engineers out here. Let's
00:20:39.280 get the bricklayers out here. And let's fix this wall. Vulnerability is only powerful when you do
00:20:45.500 something with it, not when you just complain about your stuff. Okay, the next antidote in
00:20:51.320 this winner's triangle or this empowerment triangle is that the persecutor now becomes
00:20:58.720 assertive. So instead of just persecuting everybody and being frustrated and barking
00:21:06.240 orders and yelling all the time, instead, you begin to state clearly what your needs are
00:21:12.300 and what your boundaries are directly to the person. I've had conversations even just over
00:21:18.940 the past week or so with individuals who, instead of coming to me with an issue that they have
00:21:25.840 directly with me, they go to other people and talk about me. And I don't think it's malicious
00:21:31.720 for the most point, but it's inappropriate at best. If you haven't given me the opportunity
00:21:39.760 to listen to you, to hear what you have to say, to understand your concerns, then you shouldn't
00:21:48.460 be going and talking with other people about that. Stating needs clearly is assertive.
00:21:54.900 Nice guys have a hard time with this, but you need to be able to do this. You need to state
00:21:59.700 what your boundaries are, how you will be treated, how you won't be treated without needing to
00:22:04.840 dominate everybody else. And people can come along for the ride or they can decide not to.
00:22:10.620 And look, if they decide not to, that's okay. They don't have to. But an assertive leader,
00:22:15.820 an assertive man, is significantly more effective than one who's just persecuting all the time.
00:22:21.700 And the third component of this winner's triangle is that the rescuer now becomes someone who's
00:22:29.300 caring. He offers help only when it's asked and appreciated, and only in ways that build another
00:22:38.120 person's capability, not their dependence on you. That's the difference between somebody who's
00:22:42.540 rescuing and somebody who is truly caring. With my kids, I try to be the caring person, that I can
00:22:49.220 help them to a degree that builds them up, builds them into powerful, responsible,
00:22:55.200 self-sustaining adults without kneecapping them, without building their dependency on me.
00:23:03.200 And you can see it, right? You know. When you see somebody else's kids who can't function in society
00:23:08.680 without mommy and daddy's wallet, for example, or their approval or validation.
00:23:15.140 But what we need to understand is that there is also a time where rescuing is important, okay?
00:23:21.880 And I want to be very clear on this and throw this caveat. I'm not saying that you should just
00:23:27.080 withdraw from this altogether. I'm not saying that you just need to become a recluse or a jerk
00:23:32.520 or so self-absorbed that you can't recognize there's people out there who actually need
00:23:37.880 genuine help. So when is rescuing somebody actually appropriate? Well, there's a couple
00:23:43.080 of times. Number one, if it's a genuine emergency, right? You don't have to ask for their permission,
00:23:51.460 right? If I see somebody who needs CPR, I'm not going to go ask if they need it and go through
00:23:58.800 all of the normal modes of conversation and communication before I start administering CPR.
00:24:04.900 okay they don't have agency in that moment so i'm going to act in that moment because there's
00:24:10.060 a genuine emergency another example might be a short-term bridge with a clear exit okay not a
00:24:18.580 permanent crutch so if i've got a teammate or a worker um you know somebody that i need to
00:24:25.880 to talk with, um, then, you know, I, I can help bridge the gap. I can teach them things. I can
00:24:35.440 solve a problem very quickly if I need to, especially if it's in a work situation and
00:24:39.940 there might be an expense to having somebody else do it, but I'm not going to just micromanage the
00:24:44.700 entire thing. I'm not going to take over the entire project. I'm going to say, Hey, let's do
00:24:47.920 this together. And so I'm going to help that person individually work through whatever we
00:24:53.320 need to work through so that we can move into this exit strategy of them taking control and
00:24:59.260 responsibility for it. Okay, and that's the third component of where rescuing becomes good, becomes
00:25:09.220 a healthy thing. It's when they're doing the work, and you're just supplementing it. And you're not
00:25:14.580 doing the work for them. You're not carrying all the weight. You're just supplementing, especially
00:25:19.160 if they've asked you to do it. And that's the fourth point. If it's asked for, never in the
00:25:25.000 history of humankind has anybody truly and radically appreciated unsolicited advice.
00:25:31.820 It's obnoxious at best. It's annoying. It's obnoxious. It's not helpful. It's not warranted.
00:25:37.560 In many cases, they don't even need it. But people think, well, I'm just trying to rescue. I'm just
00:25:40.860 trying to serve. I'm just trying to help. They didn't ask for it. And it's not your responsibility
00:25:45.160 to give it unless one of those caveats exists that I shared earlier. So guys, I've got some
00:25:49.980 challenges here for you as we wrap things up this Friday. I want you to name someone that you
00:25:55.640 continue to rescue repeatedly over and over and over again. And ask yourself, are you building
00:26:03.660 their capability or are you more focused on your own sense of being needed? Okay, practice another
00:26:11.520 thing you could do for a challenge. Practice one assertive conversation. I have this boundary.
00:26:18.780 Here's how I expect to be treated. I would like to communicate this way. Here's what I need out
00:26:23.420 of our relationship, et cetera, et cetera. And then on the caring front, exhibit care.
00:26:29.160 Wait for somebody to offer or at least ask for help and care about them. Love them. Don't do
00:26:36.980 anything. Don't strip them of the consequences of their choices. Don't do all the things for them.
00:26:42.520 Work alongside them, support them. But I think regardless of where you fall, and like I said
00:26:47.220 earlier, most men fall on all three of those categories, the rescuer, the persecutor, and the,
00:26:56.500 now I'm drawing a blink, the rescuer, the persecutor, and the, you know what it is, I'm sure.
00:27:02.220 I don't know why I can't think of it, but guys, try to work on these things, okay?
00:27:07.540 Focus on being the kind of man who is bold and assertive, who will help and be caring
00:27:12.860 when he can, and show up powerfully.
00:27:16.960 The other one is the victim, by the way.
00:27:18.940 I don't know why I was drawing a blank.
00:27:20.320 The rescuer, the persecutor, and the victim.
00:27:23.960 Move away from acting like those things and move into that winner's circle.
00:27:28.320 it's the vulnerable it's the caring and it's the assertive guys i hope that that gives you some
00:27:34.940 insight again a very interesting phenomenon this this triangle that happens uh as as we navigate
00:27:43.820 our own behavior and our relationships with other people i hope that serves you i hope that helps
00:27:49.660 if you want to know more about this subject we're doing a really interesting war room i've talked
00:27:56.160 about it last month. It's an opportunity for us to get together as men. We're doing this on
00:28:00.940 September 16th at 8 p.m. Eastern. It's free. All you need to do is get signed up and RSVP.
00:28:07.400 And I think we've got over 100 people registered and enrolled right now. And I would love to have
00:28:13.680 you there. My co-host, Kip Sorensen, and good friend of mine is going to talk more specifically
00:28:18.840 about the rescuer and the persecutor
00:28:22.380 and how to move more into a sense of leadership
00:28:25.500 from a place of being an anchor.
00:28:27.940 Somebody who has exhibited this winner's triangle
00:28:30.240 that I'm telling you about.
00:28:31.260 So if you're interested in that,
00:28:32.240 make sure to check it out.
00:28:33.080 Go to orderofman.com slash war room.
00:28:36.280 That's orderofman.com slash war room.
00:28:40.760 All right, guys, we will be back.
00:28:42.740 I got a very, very interesting podcast
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00:28:53.600 I appreciate you guys
00:28:54.700 Again, orderofman.com slash word
00:28:56.580 Until then, go out there, take action
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