Pearl - Age Of The Mids： How Men and Women View Beauty Differently

00:00:00.000 Because beautiful women will go to an A-level city, where midwomen will go to generally a B-level city. 1.00

00:00:06.280 Because midwomen can't compete in the A-levels. 1.00

00:00:10.780 Because she's really close to beautiful, but her face is just a little bit... 0.98

00:00:15.040 I think it's a big...

00:00:16.500 Like, she's like, in some pictures, I think she's beautiful.

00:00:20.060 But then I'll see ones where I think she... 1.00

00:00:22.860 I'm going to say eight.

00:00:24.040 I'm going to say eight.

00:00:25.900 But I'll just see ones like this occasionally, where I'm like, hmm.

00:00:30.820 Yeah, I'm going to say eight, final answer.

00:00:34.920 Cool.

00:00:35.960 Yeah, so that's how I do my ratings, Pia.

00:00:40.260 It's like another world to me, because I just don't think about people like that.

00:00:44.280 Like, when I see celebrities, they're just like...

00:00:46.240 They are this abstract concept of, this is probably a beautiful woman. 1.00

00:00:50.000 Like, when I see even YouTubers and influencers, like most influencers I know are beautiful people.

00:00:55.720 They just are.

00:00:56.720 And I don't...

00:00:57.400 Like, there's no number rating system.

00:00:58.640 No offense, I just can't trust your ratings after the rating you did, Pisha Payne. 0.93

00:01:03.100 I think she's beautiful.

00:01:05.040 Okay, wait, I'll give you a more acceptable one.

00:01:06.940 That destroyed all...

00:01:08.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:01:09.360 Tara Yummy.

00:01:10.460 I think she is a smoke show. 1.00

00:01:12.700 Ten out of ten.

00:01:13.260 Let me see.

00:01:13.880 Tara Yummy.

00:01:15.520 I follow all her stuff.

00:01:16.780 Oh, this girl. 0.65

00:01:18.640 She's pretty, but I would not put her above in... 1.00

00:01:23.040 It's tough.

00:01:23.640 I think she looks like a young... 0.96

00:01:25.160 Hold on, let me show you.

00:01:25.820 Megan Fox slash... 1.00

00:01:27.500 She's the best rating you've given, but I need to see a body picture. 0.94

00:01:32.760 No, she's like a six. 1.00

00:01:34.120 Come on.

00:01:37.040 No, yeah. 1.00

00:01:37.860 You guys are crazy. 1.00

00:01:39.180 Like, the fact that you... 0.99

00:01:40.500 I'm telling you, you're not going to find an influencer with a female audience that's 1.00

00:01:45.220 not mid. 0.97

00:01:46.100 Women feel too icky when they see women too hot. 1.00

00:01:51.120 I was going to give her a seven, actually. 0.98

00:01:53.520 I was going to give her a seven.

00:01:55.040 But I can't see...

00:01:55.960 She might be...

00:01:56.640 She might... 1.00

00:01:57.200 I can't tell how flat...

00:01:58.820 Women don't... 1.00

00:02:00.040 Women... 1.00

00:02:00.780 Men subtract more for women being flat than women do. 0.82

00:02:04.680 So, for women, it's skinny first, curves second. 1.00

00:02:09.380 Men, it's curves first. 1.00

00:02:11.080 Like, they like boobs and butt. 1.00

00:02:12.760 So, that's always... 0.98

00:02:13.840 If I ever forget or do bad on a rating, it's usually because I overrated skinny and underrated 0.98

00:02:19.380 boobs and butt. 1.00

00:02:22.340 But... 0.94

00:02:22.860 Again, I just don't think about people like...

00:02:25.960 Like, when I think of like, oh, that's a beautiful person.

00:02:27.900 I'm not thinking like, do they have X, Y, Z?

00:02:30.420 Do they have this?

00:02:31.140 Do they have that?

00:02:31.720 You know, it's not like a tick box in my head.

00:02:32.940 I'm just like, oh, that's a really beautiful girl.

00:02:34.680 Well, I do a lot of like mid-watch on this show.

00:02:39.240 I have categories.

00:02:41.240 Like, I talk about the trends that beautiful women do. 1.00

00:02:44.380 Because beautiful women will go to an A-level city where mid-women will go to generally a 1.00

00:02:49.200 B-level city.

00:02:50.540 Because mid-women can't compete in the A-levels. 1.00

00:02:53.900 You know, so...

00:02:55.080 I do a lot of societal trends.

00:02:57.080 So, I gotta rate you to see what you can get, you know, in the open market.

00:03:01.180 And I would say, P.M., maybe that you've grown up in the age of mids.

00:03:09.300 I mean, people try to say that, like, who's that Millie Bobby Brown?

00:03:13.700 She is a dog and a half.

00:03:16.280 And people are like, oh, she's not even close.

00:03:19.500 No way.

00:03:21.160 You've grown up in the age of mids.

00:03:23.160 So, I think the days of having nines and tens in movies was literally before your time.

00:03:28.660 Like, we had the Pamela Anderson's and stuff back in my day.

00:03:32.000 But, like, the women, the Zendaya's and the Zoe Kravitz's and the Millie Bobby Brown's,

00:03:37.480 they're like sixes and six, maybe sevens at best.

00:03:40.520 And they're all over Hollywood right now.

00:03:42.680 Come on.

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00:05:24.580 Is that not a good thing?

00:05:25.840 No, it's not.

00:05:27.260 I don't agree with you, but like why do we need an achievement?

00:05:31.240 Okay, so that's like, I'm going to tell you the equivalent.

00:05:35.180 So the equivalent of that for men is like, why don't we have people in the rec league playing in the NBA?

00:05:41.780 I don't know what that means.

00:05:43.420 Okay, so, all right.

00:05:47.240 You don't know what the NBA is?

00:05:49.920 Is that basketball?

00:05:51.660 Basketball league.

00:05:52.860 England doesn't have basketball.

00:05:54.140 What is the football league called there?

00:05:59.640 I don't remember.

00:06:00.480 I don't want to.

00:06:00.660 Like the World Cup or like the Premier League?

00:06:04.600 That's like saying, why, like that would be like if the men came forward and they said,

00:06:10.180 I need to be more inclusive.

00:06:11.680 Can we have more rec league players in the Premier League?

00:06:15.380 Can we have like.

00:06:15.920 Okay, okay.

00:06:16.640 So, and that's the equivalent is Hollywood.

00:06:19.260 Everyone's supposed to be beautiful.

00:06:20.980 That's the point.

00:06:22.480 But I, I don't know.

00:06:23.940 I don't know if I'd agree with that because I think diversity is really good to have.

00:06:28.280 Yeah, I know.

00:06:28.720 No, no, no.

00:06:30.280 She's, she's right.

00:06:31.280 According to the female lens. 1.00

00:06:32.660 She's proving my point.

00:06:33.520 Cause that's what women do. 1.00

00:06:34.500 So men organize on how good they are.

00:06:37.580 So men like hierarchy where women always want it to be egalitarian. 0.93

00:06:41.220 They want everyone to be equal and like feel good.

00:06:44.060 So.

00:06:44.260 It's not necessarily about equal.

00:06:45.340 I just think it's nice for kids to see.

00:06:47.420 Like when I, I don't know, you might've had this as a ginger kid.

00:06:49.940 Like when I was a ginger kid growing up, I loved the little mermaid.

00:06:52.540 Cause she was the ginger princess.

00:06:54.860 And so I think about like, I think minorities anymore.

00:06:57.840 I'm like, you know, I feel like, do you know, we, we keep getting replaced.

00:07:02.860 Like all of the ginger women, Spider-Man man was replaced. 1.00

00:07:07.460 The little mermaid was like, there's a horse to go. 1.00

00:07:11.540 I just, there's a redhead genocide in Hollywood right now. 1.00

00:07:15.620 I think it's nice to see people like you on screen and like, as a ginger, I feel that

00:07:19.680 way.

00:07:19.840 So I can imagine like if I was an ethnic minority or whatever, I would definitely feel that way

00:07:23.720 where I'd, I'd want to see myself on screen.

00:07:26.160 The minorities have enough screen time. 1.00

00:07:29.260 They have plenty.

00:07:30.340 They have plenty.

00:07:31.420 Bring back the ginger screen time. 1.00

00:07:34.280 I want an eight plus, no mid, give me a ginger that makes me feel bad about myself. 0.99

00:07:40.220 Thank you.

00:07:41.760 I'm just going to say this real fast.

00:07:43.560 So I think anything that you have to be successful at or anything you make money at

00:07:46.940 requires work, right?

00:07:48.560 So like my day job, I have to get up.

00:07:50.760 I have to commute.

00:07:51.900 I have to sit in front of a computer.

00:07:53.680 I don't want to do it, but I have to do it to make money.

00:07:56.080 Right?

00:07:56.500 So I don't mind the fact that female models have to be like five foot 11 and 125 pounds. 1.00

00:08:02.920 You want to know why?

00:08:03.740 Because that's hard.

00:08:04.980 Not a lot of people can do it.

00:08:06.400 You have to make sacrifices to be that thin.

00:08:10.280 Plus size models.

00:08:11.280 What, what work do they have to do?

00:08:14.580 Mids.

00:08:15.120 Like there's no rarity.

00:08:17.160 There's no work.

00:08:18.160 There's nothing.

00:08:18.920 If you want to be a supermodel, it should take sacrifice.

00:08:21.620 I want to see you eating coffee, cotton balls and fricking smoking cigarettes and drinking 1.00

00:08:28.280 water.

00:08:28.860 That's what, because that's hard.

00:08:30.560 Anything that requires a lot of money should be hard.

00:08:33.460 And we've lowered the bar so low now.

00:08:37.080 I hate it.

00:08:39.420 I just, yeah.

00:08:41.020 I don't, I don't know why you think that though.

00:08:43.340 Like, I just don't relate to that feeling of like, these people need to work hard.

00:08:46.220 You need to suffer to have success.

00:08:47.660 Like, I think if you have success, you have success and that's good for you.

00:08:51.200 Is that, is that so bad?

00:08:53.220 It's because it's because you're a woman. 0.97

00:08:55.640 Yeah, I know.

00:08:57.760 That's the most woman thing I've ever seen. 1.00

00:08:59.600 Yeah, I know.

00:09:00.260 God.

00:09:01.540 What do you mean?

00:09:02.420 Like, I don't even think it's about working for success.

00:09:06.120 It's not, it's like the issue with a lot of this, like body positivity and diversity.

00:09:10.120 Like, did you see that beauty pageant, like I think a year ago where a plus size woman 1.00

00:09:14.100 won first place over somebody skinny, like, like the point is that the plus size woman 1.00

00:09:20.140 basically just showed up, put on a pretty dress and then won first place. 1.00

00:09:23.800 Whereas the person who was skinny, she did a calorie deficit. 0.99

00:09:28.140 She worked out, she went on walks, she woke up early so she could work out before she

00:09:31.520 went and practiced for her beauty pageant. 0.73

00:09:33.540 It's not about suffering.

00:09:34.860 It's about putting in the work to like win.

00:09:38.280 It's the same thing with like all the diversity that's going on.

00:09:40.940 I don't know if you know Purdue University.

00:09:43.100 I forgot what state they're in. 0.82

00:09:44.640 But you're more likely to get into that university if you're black or of another minority rather

00:09:49.300 than if you're white.

00:09:50.700 My, one of my friends, one of my really good friends got rejected from that university,

00:09:53.980 even though she had over 4.0 GPA.

00:09:56.940 She had great test scores, but a different person I know didn't have a 4.0, but they

00:10:02.300 were black and they got in.

00:10:04.060 So it's not about, it's not about, um, that just sounds like such an anecdotal thing.

00:10:09.840 I don't want to get into like race debates because one, I live in England and in America,

00:10:14.360 I think there's quite a different environment over there.

00:10:15.960 But like, I, yeah, I don't, I don't want to get into that.

00:10:19.180 I'll talk about body positivity, but like when it comes to, yeah, but I think she's 0.61

00:10:23.460 just about the, yeah, it's just about like the inclusivity.

00:10:28.320 It's the same thing with like, we shouldn't have fat people winning beauty pageants because 1.00

00:10:31.480 the skinny people work 10 times harder to win and they lose to fat people because we're

00:10:35.400 saying fat people are allowed in these things and they should win.

00:10:38.980 And we're saying that they are a 10, even though they're a 2.

00:10:41.520 So, okay.

00:10:44.480 And I think that that, like, I think that's cope.

00:10:47.700 Do you know what I mean? 0.95

00:10:48.080 Like, I think it's, I think it is silly.

00:10:49.740 If something is based solely on like a bikini round and this and that, like the objective

00:10:54.800 standard is like, no, the plus size person should not win that. 0.94

00:10:57.700 I would agree with you there.

00:10:59.540 If there's like positive discrimination towards these people, which is what I'm assuming you're

00:11:03.260 applying. 0.62

00:11:04.220 Um, yeah, I do think that that's silly. 0.99

00:11:06.200 Like no, like fat person should win the biggest loser. 0.96

00:11:08.400 Like that wouldn't make sense, you know?

00:11:09.920 But, um, I lost my, like, I was a plus size model and I lost my plus size modeling contract

00:11:15.000 because I lost weight.

00:11:16.480 Like, you know, it's, it's, it's more about representation and clothes.

00:11:21.140 And a lot of the modeling I did was wardrobe modeling, which is when you go in and you

00:11:24.580 are a set size and they just do the clothes to you.

00:11:27.960 Like, it's not to do with like, oh, I don't want to see this fat model on my screen.

00:11:31.320 It was just like.

00:11:32.260 No, but it is indirectly though, because women are buying. 1.00

00:11:35.680 And so it just, if you follow the female dollar, it makes sense because there's going to be 1.00

00:11:41.120 more jobs. 0.97

00:11:41.940 There's more fat women now. 1.00

00:11:43.500 So there's good. 0.98

00:11:44.480 And women can't deal with like women on screen being hotter. 1.00

00:11:48.540 So they'll just have more jobs for fat women and fat models. 1.00

00:11:52.760 And the sad part about it is, um, a guy will see Chris Evans and Avengers with his shirt

00:12:00.020 off and be like, and it'll inspire him to go to the gym, right?

00:12:04.420 A woman will see Pia here and be like, and feel threatened and be like, oh, she shouldn't 0.99

00:12:11.320 be there.

00:12:12.040 They'll see Scarlett Johansson or some attractive woman and feel threatened or triggered by it.

00:12:18.740 So why can men be inspired, inspired by men that are in shape and have ads, but women 1.00

00:12:25.120 are triggered by it?

00:12:26.080 Um, I just, yeah, that was going to be, in my opinion, sorry, sorry, I was going to say,

00:12:33.780 that's my point.

00:12:34.480 When you said earlier that you lost all your Instagram likes when you got skinny, it's

00:12:38.440 because you were fat and then you got skinny.

00:12:40.340 So all these women were liking your pictures because they're like, oh, I'm prettier than 1.00

00:12:43.680 her.

00:12:43.880 I'm stuff like that.

00:12:44.760 And then you lost weight.

00:12:45.940 You got skinnier than these women. 1.00

00:12:47.280 And now these women don't want to have anything to do with you because they feel intimidated by 1.00

00:12:51.460 you because you got skinny, because you lost the weight, because you're prettier

00:12:54.280 now.

00:12:56.620 I'm sure that there is a degree of that within people, but I think it's quite pessimistic

00:13:01.320 to think that that is everybody.

00:13:03.060 Like your view of this is what all women feel. 0.95

00:13:06.240 Like I don't feel intimidated when I feel I see an attractive woman and I didn't when

00:13:09.200 I was fat.

00:13:09.820 When I was fat, all of my friends were thin.

00:13:11.560 Like I had a couple of fat friends, but all of my friends were beautiful, thin women, you 1.00

00:13:15.500 know, and they still are because they're the same friends.

00:13:17.660 My husband was thin.

00:13:19.000 My husband still is thin.

00:13:19.860 He's the same man.

00:13:20.380 But like, I don't know, I just I didn't feel that way.

00:13:23.240 I think if you're comfortable in yourself, you don't feel that way.

00:13:27.360 Like, I think it's great to have everyone on TV.

00:13:29.300 I think it's nice.

00:13:30.180 I like seeing incredibly attractive people as much as I like seeing people that represent

00:13:33.820 your average Joe.

00:13:35.220 Well, I don't think you can pick out incredibly attractive people based on who you selected,

00:13:40.660 which is normal for women. 1.00

00:13:42.780 It's normal for women. 1.00

00:13:43.800 Um, that's, I just, it's pretty normal for women. 0.95

00:13:46.840 If you picked them, like you picked out the most attractive people ever to make a TV show

00:13:51.900 as you have with pregame.

00:13:53.740 You said I picked out the most attractive girls I could to put on the thumbnails. 1.00

00:13:57.500 Fine.

00:13:58.040 Like I, you know, I wouldn't ever have anything against those women. 1.00

00:14:00.620 And if I thought they had something positive to say, I would follow them and encourage

00:14:03.020 them.

00:14:03.280 And I like their stuff.

00:14:05.120 You know, I just think people need to be more comfortable with themselves.

00:14:07.560 Yeah, well, I'll let, I'll close out on that point, um, because we are about to hit the

00:14:14.560 two hour mark, but yeah, thank you so much for coming.

00:14:18.680 It seems like it is fun.

00:14:19.500 Thanks for having me.

00:14:20.600 I was thinking your opinions would have changed a little bit, but it seems like they're pretty

00:14:24.460 much the same, which is fine.

00:14:26.840 You know, I'm happy for you either way.

00:14:29.180 Um, do you have any final thoughts you want to tell the crowd, the people?

00:14:33.920 Uh, I don't know.

00:14:36.040 Thanks for having me.

00:14:37.040 Oh, should I say some things?

00:14:38.680 Uh, trans rights are human rights.

00:14:40.980 Uh, actually, I actually love, you could actually put all your beliefs like that because, um,

00:14:48.200 it helps me stay monetized.

00:14:49.920 So yeah, that's fine.

00:14:50.660 Go ahead.

00:14:51.160 Put list them all.

00:14:52.760 Oh, uh, do you know what?

00:14:54.580 I can't actually think of anything else.

00:14:56.180 I believe in body positivity.

00:14:57.300 You should wear a bikini.

00:14:58.080 Do you know what?

00:14:58.460 Wear whatever you want, guys.

00:14:59.520 Like if you feel comfortable, just wear it.

00:15:00.820 Don't listen to these people on the internet.

00:15:01.980 They won't say it in real life.

00:15:02.840 Even Pearl just admitted.

00:15:03.640 She won't say it in real life.

00:15:04.900 Trans rights are human rights.

00:15:05.840 We love trans people here.

00:15:07.940 LGBT.

00:15:08.760 We love the LGBTQ rights.

00:15:10.060 You're a queen.

00:15:10.580 Don't vote for Trump.

00:15:11.500 You're a queen.

00:15:12.140 I actually don't know who the other competitor is in America, but Trump's kind of off the

00:15:18.460 radar, right?

00:15:19.160 I don't know.

00:15:20.060 Anyway, I feel like the chat's really like me and now I'm gonna.

00:15:23.440 It's fine.

00:15:24.200 It'll stay monetized.

00:15:25.400 Your English, your opinion about Trump doesn't count.

00:15:28.460 So, you know, we're actually looking to do more debate shows like once or twice a week.

00:15:33.000 So we'd love to have you back if you do want to argue some points.

00:15:36.360 So I always love to argue.

00:15:38.880 I'll message you.

00:15:39.740 And if you're free, feel free to.

00:15:41.920 Now that you're thin, we'll be nice.

00:15:46.500 Let's go. 0.99

00:15:47.940 You guys are terrible people. 0.98

00:15:49.560 You'll actually objectively. 0.98

00:15:50.780 Where are your thin people?

00:15:54.240 I have my sister on the line, my brother's friend, and now I'm thin.

00:15:58.220 You know what?

00:15:59.260 We should have got Sugar Puff. 0.96

00:16:01.560 Is he thin now?

00:16:03.900 No, but.

00:16:05.080 I lost that Instagram.

00:16:06.960 So I lost everybody's Instagram pretty much.

00:16:09.360 His name's Sugar Puff.

00:16:10.540 Just such Sugar Puff.

00:16:12.120 You'll find him.

00:16:13.300 He's funny.

00:16:13.760 I'll have my phone done, but I will.

00:16:15.820 You should have got him on to talk about body positivity again.

00:16:19.460 Yeah, totally.

00:16:21.260 Doug, MP, are you going to do final thoughts?

00:16:23.640 Yeah, you should want to be in good health so the people that love you on this planet,

00:16:29.180 you can be here for them to love you as long as possible. 0.93

00:16:32.340 And you're going to be here longer enough to do that if you are not a fat slob whale. 1.00

00:16:38.200 Okay? 0.94

00:16:39.340 I'm really glad that Pia lost all the way.

00:16:41.740 I can't believe it's the same person.

00:16:43.600 Don't discount all of the work you've done because it kind of sounds like you're doing that.

00:16:48.480 And also, there's going to be a time where you're going to have to stop caping for these

00:16:53.900 people because they will not reciprocate the support that you have for them back.

00:16:57.120 They're going to eat you alive because you care about your health.

00:17:02.780 You're a good-looking woman. 0.83

00:17:04.400 You're married.

00:17:04.940 Especially if you have a family, watch.

00:17:07.480 If you have a family and you're in shape, they're going to eat you alive.

00:17:11.080 So just watch out because you're giving support to people that want to support you back.

00:17:15.800 But thank you for coming on.

00:17:17.580 I really, really appreciate it.

00:17:19.460 And I promise I'll be nice this time.

00:17:22.400 I think I did a pretty good job.

Pearl - August 28, 2025

Age Of The Mids： How Men and Women View Beauty Differently

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