Pearl - April 30, 2024


Are Christian Countries Better to LIVE in than Muslim Countries？ ｜ THE SITDOWN ｜ @MohammedHijab

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Laura Tobin
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In this episode, we talk about the best places to live in the world and why people choose to emigrate to other countries. We discuss the economic and social benefits of living in the Muslim and Christian worlds, and whether the best place to live is actually where people want to live.

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00:00:00.000 so i have a question do you think that the best places to live in the world is the muslim world
00:00:08.480 no i mean it depends on what you're looking for
00:00:12.800 um what are you looking for you know it depends on what you like i don't know i don't know much
00:00:17.840 about like i've been to i've been to dubai but i wouldn't say that that can't be i wouldn't imagine
00:00:23.760 that's like what you think of when you think of the muslim world because i guess when i was
00:00:27.920 thinking about this through a couple of years ago, my thought
00:00:31.620 again is God would make countries that where if you follow him,
00:00:36.920 this is where people want to go. And it seems like more of
00:00:41.780 Christian nations are that some would argue that like that the
00:00:47.720 West is like terrible. And I could see where they're coming
00:00:52.040 from. But I think where you find the best places to be is where
00:00:56.180 people are going look um the assumption is wrong because the assumption is the more money you have
00:01:01.460 the more right you are effectively that's what the assumption is if you think about it no i wouldn't
00:01:06.100 put it to money alone because then you could look at like um gdp per capita i think in singapore
00:01:13.460 would be high i do think people go there but i i still wouldn't say it's like people want to go
00:01:19.140 so what which ones should we look at what material should we say material conditions
00:01:22.740 if the material conditions are better i wouldn't say material conditions i would say if i was god
00:01:28.180 this is just how i think about it i'm not saying this is like a scholar level this is just how i
00:01:32.580 think i would think that the places that follow god and what god wants those would be the places
00:01:39.380 where people want to go it's not necessarily about material possessions because i don't i don't think
00:01:45.940 it's based on income alone what is it based on them where people maybe have the highest quality
00:01:53.380 of life but that doesn't but that doesn't mean income how do you um assess that i would say that
00:01:59.540 you can find the best places to live by looking where people are immigrating to okay and in my
00:02:05.140 lifetime it's always like people like it didn't because my dad he hired people from around like
00:02:10.980 he had an office in india like we kind of grew up like traveling the world i had nannies from around
00:02:15.380 the world and people always wanted to come to america maybe the uk yeah yeah sure um but here's
00:02:22.420 what i think dubai is a new one so you know you could argue dubai but here's what i'll say to
00:02:26.580 pearly look um the reason why people go to different countries probably the most like the
00:02:33.220 biggest reason is because of economics like people don't travel from the muslim world or parts of the
00:02:38.820 muslim world to go to let's say the west just because the west has tall buildings and cleaner 1.00
00:02:43.940 streets, although that's changing now. They do so because there's more money to be made here,
00:02:49.060 and they can help their tribe and their family, etc. And that's happening now in the reverse.
00:02:53.380 You've mentioned Dubai. If you look at the top 10 countries GDP per capita, four of them are Muslim
00:02:58.260 in fact. So you've got Kuwait, you've got Qatar, you've got obviously the UAE and Brunei. So that's
00:03:03.460 four out of 10, according to World Population Review, which is a website that tracks this kind
00:03:08.100 of thing. So a lot of Westerners are going to those places. What I'm saying is that
00:03:13.860 the reason why people move anywhere or the main reason it seems to me is because of economics but
00:03:18.420 the assumption is um okay well where the material conditions are better that would indicate that the
00:03:24.180 truth is there but if that was true then jesus would be the biggest falsehood because he he
00:03:29.140 lived an impoverished life yeah i guess it wouldn't really be money alone i when i say quality of life
00:03:36.820 um i i i think of like low crime i think of like like nice place it's got a very high no no and
00:03:46.260 that's that's what i think like when the us and the uk have fallen like away from its christian
00:03:50.820 values it's kind of gone to you know and i think less people have wanted i would say well i guess
00:03:57.460 let's look at the christian world because the demographic heartland of christianity now seems to
00:04:02.260 at least move in direction of africa sub-saharan africa in fact according to pure research london
00:04:08.180 and the uk is not a christian country anymore by population it's 40 now it's gone below the
00:04:12.980 the threshold where you'll find most christians in the world is sub-saharan africa and the material 0.99
00:04:17.140 conditions there pound for pound are probably less than the muslim world another place which is you 1.00
00:04:22.340 could say another chunk of demographic heartland we could say for christianity is latin america
00:04:27.780 i wouldn't consider that to be a great place for people to want to emigrate or something like that
00:04:33.140 in terms of economic conditions the reason why these countries or it seems to me like the biggest
00:04:37.860 reason why these countries sub-saharan africa latin america parts of the middle east are in
00:04:42.420 a similar position economically it seems to me because of colonialism that is the most recent
00:04:48.180 thing that's happened okay so obviously now they have to build their countries up some some have
00:04:52.580 like if you look at rwanda rwanda is a beautiful example go to rwanda it looks like one of the
00:04:57.060 cleanest countries you've ever go to in your life it's in africa because they had the crisis the
00:05:01.780 right the genocide there and so on they they decided to turn it all around you've got a
00:05:07.460 collection of countries in the muslim world now that are doing very well remember there's 60
00:05:11.060 muslim majority countries effectively right so look i guess i guess my question this is just
00:05:16.100 how i think as a westerner we would look at it it's like if you know the islam world produces 1.00
00:05:23.380 such like an amazing you know country or whatever like why why do we have this like mass immigration 1.00
00:05:29.460 to come to the west you know because of economic conditions okay so you think it's a money thing
00:05:33.860 of course it is i mean i can tell you for a fact today i can tell you that 100 hands down that's
00:05:38.660 the reason why people come to these countries is because there's there's money in these countries
00:05:42.500 okay look um uh gdp and gp capita employment all these kind of things there's money in these
00:05:48.260 countries they don't they don't come here because they love the weather look look outside because
00:05:51.220 the weather looks like uh i can tell you that for a fact and they don't come here because they love
00:05:55.860 the you know the the quote unquote ideologies of the west in fact they probably despise some of
00:05:59.780 those ideologies and that's part of the problem that the west has or right-wing people have with
00:06:04.340 muslim people other people come that countries uh but i would say this is like when we say quality
00:06:09.220 of life we have to be careful here because there is a there's an indicator in economics called the
00:06:13.060 happy index okay and it puts all these scandinavian countries yeah yeah no but if you look at what the
00:06:18.580 happy index says itself if there are books and even their website if you go happy index i think
00:06:23.460 they've changed the name of it but if you go to their website it says this is not a um this is
00:06:28.980 not a scale of who's happier and who's not they it's just so called and they put different kinds
00:06:34.260 of measures in there including but not limited to hdi human development index life expectancy
00:06:39.620 gdp recap etc so that's one thing the other thing is that actually i came across from a psychological
00:06:45.460 perspective i came across a study that was done in the university of munich in 2019 by a woman
00:06:50.980 called Laura Tobin, okay, and others, non Muslims. And they said that they use psychological
00:06:57.220 assessments and questionnaires and so on. And in their estimation, the most satisfied people in
00:07:03.540 life are actually Muslim people. This is a non Muslim, you know, academic study. So one can use 1.00
00:07:10.020 that. But the point is, is, I still think I take issue with the premise, because the premise
00:07:14.420 suggests that when someone is in a good material condition, or they're having a good life, or
00:07:19.860 money is there or let's say standard of living is there whatever it may be that indicates uh for
00:07:24.740 example that that person is in in a good position or whatever then there are many parts like for
00:07:29.540 example if you look at islamic history right islam has been around for a thousand four hundred years
00:07:33.380 95 of that time islam has either been one of the superpowers or the superpower of the world 0.99
00:07:39.380 and a lot of that time for example you'll find uh that the european countries has been in the dark
00:07:45.940 ages okay i'm not there are some stereotypes someone can make about european so-called time
00:07:51.560 of european dark ages but if you consider from the from the let's say time of uh 600 700 a.d
00:08:00.040 until 1600 1700 1700 right this time period of a thousand years what the west produced
00:08:09.960 in that time compare it with the last 300 years what they produced in the last 300 years is much
00:08:15.940 much more notable than what they produced the thousand years that preceded that, in terms of
00:08:20.320 inventions, in terms of discoveries, etc, etc, etc. So this is not, it cannot be said to be an
00:08:25.420 argument for anything. And look at Japan. Japan is a country that has got their own culture.
00:08:30.880 They've got their own traditions, and so on.
00:08:32.920 Yeah, they're pretty ancient.
00:08:33.700 They're developing. Yeah, exactly. So if it's not about Christianity, because Christianity is
00:08:37.660 not, is not there in Japan. So there are so many counter examples, that the point
00:08:43.840 Do you feel like people are like dying to go to Japan?
00:08:46.500 Maybe they are.
00:08:47.380 I don't know.
00:08:48.180 Immigration has gone up.
00:08:49.100 But once again, it's just when I looked at like immigrate, I haven't recently.
00:08:53.000 So this was, this was like years ago.
00:08:55.040 But like, I didn't remember Japan being that high.
00:09:00.240 Oh, okay.
00:09:00.740 You know, I know.
00:09:01.180 I understand.
00:09:01.680 It might be.
00:09:02.300 Yeah, no, I mean, people want to come to the West now because the West has money.
00:09:07.000 Not all the West.
00:09:08.400 Greece, for example, doesn't have that much money.
00:09:10.280 Spain doesn't have that compared to, you know, Scandinavian countries per capita, for example.
00:09:15.280 Those countries are more connected to or comparable to countries in the Middle East.