Pearl - Average Women Will Only Settle For Famous Men

00:00:00.000 online of a dozen women being asked the following question do we need men

00:00:06.560 most answered very quickly no because men are useless

00:00:12.400 this headline from the hill it caught my eye most young men are single most young women are not

00:00:17.920 young men have fallen faster than any demographic in america over the last 40 years it's a different

00:00:22.960 world now like we don't need men the way that they used to the future is female

00:00:30.000 men and women are drifting further apart and society is crumbling because of it

00:00:36.720 a fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage you've kind of got the trad

00:00:40.800 con versus red pill thing this men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way

00:00:46.000 you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men marriage is

00:00:50.800 a bond and it's a sacred bond it's a machine designed to extract resources from you now many

00:00:56.160 of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:01:00.720 Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things. One of the most controversial faces in all of the

00:01:07.540 internet. She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men. Because if me and you

00:01:11.700 were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave. Gee,

00:01:16.360 what could go wrong there? 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women. Men have

00:01:22.120 everything to lose primarily their own children men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws

00:01:27.320 i had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity not courts of law because in

00:01:32.600 family court you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse you need no evidence when you

00:01:37.000 guys say get married young a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for and you're

00:01:40.680 not going to be there when their entire life falls apart i interviewed them on the other side

00:01:46.040 i didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old how much did you spend trying to get him back

00:01:50.600 legal fees alone was about 200 000. before you know it you're homeless you're literally just thrown

00:01:55.480 out onto the street we absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women wives are taught to leave

00:01:59.960 their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers family is a foundation of society

00:02:04.760 every problem in society comes from single mother homes a lot of women will just chase this negative

00:02:09.800 rabbit hole of happiness endless happiness feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women

00:02:14.200 we tell women to date as many guys as possible we tell them to put off family into marriage

00:02:18.040 you are allowed to leave your perfect husband you are allowed to end a relationship with a really

00:02:24.120 great boyfriend oh freeze your eggs have an abortion what you're evil i don't think there's

00:02:28.840 anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail right like if you have

00:02:33.080 the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic naturally the outcome is going to be

00:02:37.640 that it's going to fail anyway it's self-sabotage that's the thing like women are so willing to

00:02:41.880 leave marriages because they're not happy this is not about happiness the most important thing is the

00:02:47.160 children and the problem is we have a modern society where it's me me me my feelings leave

00:02:52.600 when i feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids this myth that we live in an age of

00:02:58.720 male privilege where's my male privilege they think well men have all the rights they have

00:03:02.100 all the power privilege patriarchal system that we have why doesn't our society care about men's

00:03:07.340 rights i have no friends no wife and no social life men are alone in this situation men are

00:03:13.420 homeless. Men are thinking about eating guns. I've seen so many men on on the brink of suicide

00:03:18.460 and they didn't do anything wrong. How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight

00:03:24.000 and die to defend the country? The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:29.840 Women are helplessly dependent upon that. The so-called deaths of despair from suicide,

00:03:34.940 overdose to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women. Culture is telling men,

00:03:40.240 you are no good you got to get your act together i think men have failed themselves what kind of

00:03:44.380 a man are you what kind of a woman are you going to attract if men are in trouble so are women

00:03:49.660 everybody knows this is a huge problem but nobody wants to admit it every single woman at the table

00:03:55.000 said they wanted a man 500k 500k 300k 200k am i crazy everything is really set up against you

00:04:00.360 to fail as a man if men make less than women women don't want to marry them so you know who

00:04:05.400 wants more economically and emotionally viable men, women. I don't want to be an independent

00:04:11.520 woman anymore. I don't want to be a strong independent woman. I'm over it. When is it

00:04:16.280 going to be my turn? Where are we meeting the men that don't stop? I can't keep having these

00:04:20.180 same conversations. The only simp here is you, Pearl. You simp for men. No, I think you simp

00:04:24.460 for women. She's a provocateur. She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this. It's already

00:04:28.780 happening. It's just not out in the open yet. Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our

00:04:32.760 fairytale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.

00:04:36.660 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:40.900 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:44.740 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:46.580 The American story does not end well.

00:04:49.120 This is an existential crisis, failing young men.

00:04:52.040 what is up guys welcome to another episode of pearl daily that is the trailer for our

00:05:07.040 divorce documentary so if you want to donate there is a go fund me link in the description

00:05:12.060 thank you guys for bringing your time and attention anywhere um or thank you guys for

00:05:17.700 bringing your time and attention here. You could bring your time and attention anywhere and for

00:05:22.940 some reason you choose to tune in here. So thank you guys so much. So today we got to talk about

00:05:29.460 what the internet is really blazing about right now, which is Taylor Swift got engaged. Now I

00:05:37.200 think a lot of people when they hear that Taylor Swift got engaged, you're a guy so you probably

00:05:42.580 think, who cares? I don't care even in the slightest. Pearl, why are you even bringing

00:05:48.440 this up? But what I want to talk about is societal trends and where this is going to

00:05:55.600 go. Taylor Swift stuck the landing. I believe she's 35 years old. I predict, yeah, 30, she's

00:06:07.740 almost 36 years old she stuck the landing. And what I'm hearing from men on the internet, a lot

00:06:15.000 of them say that she's ran through. She is. I think she's had 22 ex-boyfriends. But we got to

00:06:22.980 give it to her that she is officially amid that one. She has locked down a guy that could get 22

00:06:31.020 year olds and somehow 36 year old taylor swift won okay so we're going to go through a couple

00:06:39.180 different points and then um we'll get into the topic a little deeper so modern women are going

00:06:46.300 to look at taylor swift and think that they too can wait until 35 to have a man and get similar

00:06:53.100 outcomes to taylor swift unfortunately most women will not have this happen conservative women um

00:07:00.060 And men will celebrate women spending their youth on themselves.

00:07:05.140 Now, I think I'm going to bring out the whiteboard to show there is nothing traditional about this relationship, not even in the slightest.

00:07:18.380 Not even in the slightest.

00:07:22.000 I think I'm going to bring out this whiteboard.

00:07:30.060 Yeah, give me a second.

00:07:32.480 I'm going to bring out the whiteboard.

00:07:34.120 Oh, man.

00:07:35.080 Okay.

00:07:36.040 Okay.

00:07:37.440 We're going to move this slightly.

00:07:41.360 We're going to move this over here.

00:07:45.520 Make sure you can see.

00:07:48.180 I'm going to turn off the lights in the back so it shines a little better.

00:07:52.420 this is my first time bringing out this whiteboard so please bear with me

00:08:04.720 um

00:08:05.220 ooh

00:08:07.260 oh my gosh okay okay okay

00:08:36.260 Woohoo! Can you guys see me? Can you see me? Okay, let me look in there. Let me look in the thing.

00:08:48.280 Oh, I need to zoom out.

00:09:00.800 Alright.

00:09:06.260 So, a traditional relationship is going to go God, man, woman, children, okay?

00:09:31.420 Okay. Let me double check that you guys can see me. One in the chat. Let me see.

00:09:51.780 Okay, good. You guys can see me. So a traditional relationship, it goes God, man, woman, children.

00:10:01.420 Now, typically, historically, a traditional relationship was organized by the family.

00:10:09.780 So, you know, Bob would have a son, Susie would have a daughter, and then the daughter

00:10:16.280 would come with a dowry.

00:10:17.520 So the daughter, they would say, hey, my daughter is annoying.

00:10:22.140 Could you please, Bob, take her, could your son take her off my hands?

00:10:27.000 I mean, they're going to want to start, I don't want her to go whore out.

00:10:30.080 and there's a lot riding on this so I would really just like this to happen and the woman

00:10:38.900 she wouldn't work or she would work on the farm for the man but the man would have the ultimate

00:10:44.360 say because he was in charge of the farm but now the problem is women really can't have a

00:10:53.160 traditional relationship in 2025 because women, we always have the leverage. So now it's more of a

00:11:03.180 partnership. And if anything, I would actually argue it's a transgender relationship and it's

00:11:14.200 just cosplay if you say it's traditional because the woman can rob the man. The woman can take the

00:11:22.720 man's kids. And if anything, the children actually can accuse the husband of abuse

00:11:30.160 and be believed over the man. So really, this is really what we're dealing with, dad.

00:11:42.220 This is really the way it goes, if we're being honest in 2025, because the mom will turn the

00:11:47.900 kids against the dad, and this will be the relationship. So the conservatives are trying

00:11:54.180 to celebrate this, and we'll go through what they're saying, as a win for conservatives.

00:11:58.340 You know, they're just going to want to get married now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, is it too dark?

00:12:10.040 Hold on.

00:12:17.900 okay that should be better so it should go god woman or it should go god dad here man woman

00:12:34.100 children but really in 2025 it's god woman children dad and the reason is because the

00:12:41.500 woman like in this case right taylor swift has her fans she can send against travis

00:12:47.260 she can ruin his reputation. He actually can put her on alimony. So I guess it's a little bit more

00:12:54.040 traditional, but all in all, it's not a traditional relationship at all because in a traditional

00:13:01.940 relationship. The woman gives purity. Oh my gosh. The woman gives purity plus youth and the man

00:13:23.200 gave resources. I spelled that wrong. Protection. And the woman used to come with a dowry. Now

00:13:38.140 the men aren't getting the dowry. They're not getting the youth. They're not getting

00:13:41.520 the purity. They're not. But he's still expected to pay the bills and protect the woman. Or

00:13:49.560 if the conservatives ask, you're not a real man.

00:14:01.180 Okay.

00:14:02.040 So I'm going to go back.

00:14:13.100 Let me go back down.

00:14:19.560 oh my gosh these movers I'm moving and the movers keep calling me I'm going to

00:14:29.640 check the how this looks now is this too downward let me see if this is too

00:14:43.320 downward oh my gosh way way too downward let me go back up no producer well I

00:15:09.060 Well, I don't have a producer at all, it's virtual, so.

00:15:23.240 Oh man, let me zoom in a little bit more to the right.

00:15:39.060 all right I think this is better I think this is better I may have to fix this

00:15:47.300 we'll see okay oh yeah I got to bring the light back thanks for the reminding

00:16:01.940 me. Okay, so yeah, you know what? If you can't be with me at my lows, then you don't get me at my

00:16:12.940 highs. Okay, so this is not a traditional relationship, and it's actually going to

00:16:19.540 encourage more women to hold out for better deals. Now, this is just to remind you that

00:16:27.740 conservatives men and women are on the side of women because all of everybody is paid by women

00:16:36.140 everybody is paid everybody's getting paid by these women so let me let's let's look at Taylor

00:16:44.660 Travis Kelsey getting engaged um it looks like I need to be slightly higher

00:16:53.800 I'm going to play the video while I fix this

00:16:58.640 this is monumental breaking news this is bigger than ending the Russian Ukrainian war

00:17:12.640 this is this is bigger than the Trump election this is bigger than Butler Pennsylvania I mean

00:17:17.600 this is this is seismic earth shattering stuff everybody you you will remember where you were

00:17:25.640 this is bigger than world war ii honestly this is bigger than storming the beach than iwo jima

00:17:30.060 d-day you will remember where you were sitting you remember what you were drinking and eating

00:17:34.840 and feeling and sensing and i mean it's just it's just honestly it might be bigger than the

00:17:38.800 founding of america this is a whole new founding this is a new birth of something uh this is what

00:17:45.640 of course I'm talking about is this is a moment that will live in infamy Taylor Swift is now

00:17:52.620 engaged to Travis Kelsey now has she been engaged before I need my Taylor Swift historians to I

00:18:00.180 think she has I could be wrong now this is major news everyone is talking about it Travis Kelsey

00:18:07.440 the pharmaceutical spokesperson and Taylor Swift the pop star are now officially engaged

00:18:15.500 okay where am i we couldn't hear him what did we ask uh emma says she has not been engaged so this

00:18:21.600 is a first now look it is no mystery that i'm not the world's biggest taylor swift fan however i

00:18:30.660 think there's actually something here that we should all celebrate how often do we on this

00:18:35.440 program talk about the three m's make you a better citizen and more conservative which of course is

00:18:44.040 mortgage, marriage, and mating. And so Taylor Swift obviously has plenty of mortgages. She's

00:18:52.220 got more homes than Oliver have. She's incredibly wealthy. But maybe one of the reasons why Taylor

00:18:59.500 Swift has been so just kind of annoyingly liberal over the last couple of years is that she's not

00:19:09.360 yet married and she doesn't have children i say this non-sarcastically i say this as a husband

00:19:15.120 and a father having children changes you getting married changes you and i hope that america's

00:19:23.440 biggest pop star marrying the pharmaceutical spokesperson ends up conservatizing them

00:19:34.200 Taylor Swift might de-radicalize herself she might now remember okay remember men do make

00:19:45.820 you less radical I will I will say that firsthand but um remember this is the guy that said you

00:19:52.900 can't sleep around and get a husband that's terrible advice and it is for a lot of women

00:19:59.800 But now the messaging that's sent here is women got to hold out.

00:20:05.040 We got to hold out even longer.

00:20:08.040 So let me pull this.

00:20:09.660 Come back down to reality.

00:20:10.800 I want them to have lots of children.

00:20:13.640 It teaches something about, teaches you something about yourself.

00:20:17.280 Deep down, I think Taylor Swift actually was raised as a conservative that has gotten kind of caught up in this metropolitan liberal stuff.

00:20:24.280 And she doesn't quite have an attachment to the conservative backbone that she was raised in.

00:20:32.440 But this might reattach her in the best possible way.

00:20:35.640 And I'm not saying this sarcastically.

00:20:37.320 I've seen this happen time and time again.

00:20:39.240 When people start to get married and have children, it starts to change your politics.

00:20:45.900 It starts to clarify.

00:20:47.640 Yeah, and the thing is, conservative women and liberal women are pretty much the same in terms of life choices and outcomes.

00:21:00.160 Now, it's interesting that they're celebrating this.

00:21:02.600 How do I make myself less blurry?

00:21:05.180 Now I'm super blurry.

00:21:07.420 Hold on, guys.

00:21:08.620 You have to bear with me.

00:21:09.620 your worldview. And for Taylor Swift, who obviously is very popular and incredibly

00:21:16.600 supported, Taylor Swift might go from a cat lady to a JD Vance supporter. And I think we should

00:21:24.660 celebrate that. I think that Taylor Swift having two or three children, she should have more

00:21:30.780 children than she has houses. That is my challenge, Taylor Swift. And I'm not being sarcastic.

00:21:34.680 I think that if she ends up having children, she'll stop this kind of liberal endorsing Joe

00:21:41.640 Biden nonsense. And we want Taylor Swift on Team America. We want you to leave the island of the

00:21:48.780 Wokies. And we would welcome you with open arms. One of the reasons why so many people on the

00:21:54.720 right have been just skeptical or at least a little bit negative on Taylor Swift is up until

00:22:00.580 this point no and i'll tell you why because taylor swift is making every wrong choice and still

00:22:06.500 winning you know what i mean that's why they hate her and because men they see taylor swift is what

00:22:13.680 they're gonna have to accept you know as a wife they're like this is what um this is what i have

00:22:24.160 have to accept? A woman with 22 ex-boyfriends? So I actually do, and I said this a year ago,

00:22:34.260 I'm going to make the case. I think Taylor Swift will stay married and this is a good move for her.

00:22:42.280 And I actually don't think, I don't think Travis Kelsey lost either.

00:22:48.220 So remember, conservatives will celebrate women spending their youth on themselves. There's

00:22:54.080 nothing traditional about this relationship because Taylor Swift has the leverage, okay?

00:23:00.540 It's going to be to encourage women to be more hypergamous than they already are.

00:23:06.540 She's going to have kids through IVF. So, Ben Shapiro even tweeted, Ben Shapiro even tweeted,

00:23:24.080 This, unironically, is an excellent thing.

00:23:26.940 I hope many other single people follow their example.

00:23:31.000 And they don't get it.

00:23:32.060 They really don't.

00:23:33.040 These men, they don't understand.

00:23:36.980 They don't understand why.

00:23:41.980 Why men, why everyone's freaking out about this.

00:23:45.960 Because a lot of men see Taylor Swift and who they have to date.

00:23:50.620 And a lot of women see Taylor Swift in themselves.

00:23:55.060 So Myron said, getting Swift, getting Taylor Swift when she's in her 30s, a former thought, and on her peak, a big L.

00:24:03.560 Now, I agree and I disagree.

00:24:06.880 That's the most woman thing to say ever.

00:24:09.320 I agree because, yeah, comparatively, it is.

00:24:15.980 But I don't think it's as big of an L as he's saying, and I'm going to get into that.

00:24:20.780 so we'll get back to that point later Taylor Swift is a mid who won everybody on the internet

00:24:29.980 saying she's ran through she's gonna die alone that's what I've heard but I actually think

00:24:35.920 Taylor Swift is gonna get everything she wants so Taylor Swift is in our category of mids who won

00:24:43.880 So what did she do to win?

00:24:46.120 She has a history of not being fat.

00:24:48.720 She has no sex tapes.

00:24:50.420 And the promiscuous stuff she does have is fairly tame.

00:24:56.140 It's not crazy bad, you know.

00:25:03.100 She's never publicly denounced an ex except indirectly in a song

00:25:08.660 where a woman wouldn't really know who she was talking about.

00:25:13.940 kind of that kind of works but uh she has no kids out of wedlock it is a political move men with

00:25:22.180 something to lose often stick with women that also have something to lose so there's um

00:25:28.500 a youtuber i spoke to and i said one time i said yeah men don't care about money and he looked at

00:25:34.420 me and he said i do i can't be dealing with these girls that have nothing to lose

00:25:43.140 not seriously anyway. That's how you self-destruct your stuff.

00:25:51.620 She can't put him on alimony or child support. She has a billion dollars.

00:25:58.260 Her exes are not as bad as other women's exes. Pretty much all men have to pick a ran-through

00:26:05.200 woman. Even the guys calling her ran-through, it's like, what was your girlfriend doing or

00:26:10.300 your wife doing before she met you. Ranthru is on the menu. You know what I mean? Ranthru is what

00:26:16.860 the men have to pick from. They're like, okay, you know, using Erin Clary's analogy. They're at the

00:26:22.980 restaurant and they're like, I want a virgin. And the waiter's like, we're out. Could I have someone

00:26:28.820 debt-free? Waiter says no. Could I have someone not fat? Yeah, but she's expensive. Could I have

00:26:38.840 somebody, could I have somebody pure? So pretty much all women, you know, because someone says,

00:26:48.120 Pearl, Pearl, what's ran through? I think most women have slept with more than five people by

00:27:03.240 the time they get married. I think at that point, ran through, okay? Now,

00:27:12.960 I'm just being honest here, okay?

00:27:22.460 I'm being honest here, you know? I mean, and I'd actually say it's way higher than that.

00:27:28.060 I'd say it's way higher, but then it's like if I say the real numbers that I would guess women

00:27:38.860 have, I'll just say over five. So her exes, you know, because when you look at Taylor Swift

00:27:54.180 exes. Most of them are pretty feminine. Joe Jonas.

00:28:02.120 The One Direction guy. These are feminine musicians.

00:28:06.180 Travis Kelsey is more alpha than all of the dorks she

00:28:10.220 dated before him. Modern marriages are brand building

00:28:14.440 and business decisions, not religious ceremonies. Marriages

00:28:18.180 of the past used to be about religion and family, but now your family is on social

00:28:22.320 media, especially if you are in show business. Modern women will continue to use their marriage

00:28:29.100 and their brand to build their relationship. Travis Kelsey and Taylor's entire family and

00:28:34.180 marriage will be on social media in front of the camera, and there's nothing Travis can do about it.

00:28:39.160 Average women will now believe they can stick the landing at 35.

00:28:44.420 Conservatives believe there will be a baby boom because of this. I predict there will be a 35

00:28:49.220 year old baby boom. So there'll be a bunch of like special ed children.

00:28:58.080 Average women will share celebrity men and believe they can land them. Access to these men will be

00:29:04.160 more common. Conservatives will always celebrate women wasting their, spending their youth on

00:29:10.960 themselves. Normally I would do a show about Taylor Swift's body count and dating history,

00:29:16.800 um but travis is an nfl player there's no amount of whoring that taylor could have done

00:29:22.280 compared to travis kelsey kelsey the solution to the whoring problems is for women to marry a

00:29:28.880 bigger whore so if a woman's a super slut you know if you get a super slut the men carry

00:29:34.740 care less so it was a good strategy she whored out with the musicians and as i told you guys

00:29:41.060 She went to an industry where nobody knew her.

00:29:45.920 Like nobody, he doesn't know any of the men that she's banged in the past.

00:29:52.340 So that's a strategy.

00:29:55.600 So let's compare Taylor Swift to our reigning champion mid, Lauren Sanchez.

00:30:01.820 Who do you say got a better deal?

00:30:03.500 Let's compare.

00:30:04.720 Let's start the defending champion.

00:30:07.140 in lauren sanchez also never got fat super feminine also dresses nice and the hair is long

00:30:15.840 makeup on point never said a bad thing about her exes but the con lifelong career and show business

00:30:22.260 so a lot of bodies um single mother of nfl players kid that she had out of wedlock married um

00:30:28.940 second husband had two kids got divorced insists on businesses and interests plastic surgery makes

00:30:36.700 her look like a comic book villain. She married Jeff Bezos, one of the richest men in the world,

00:30:42.140 and she used his money and platform for her interests. She gets to influence women all

00:30:47.620 over the world and make them delusional enough to think they can get a billionaire

00:30:50.900 with three kids from two different men.

00:31:05.780 Jeff Bezos marrying Lauren is a win for him

00:31:08.860 because Lauren is a significant upgrade from his first wife.

00:31:13.400 She understands celebrity and fame,

00:31:16.020 and she appeals to his biggest customer base,

00:31:18.540 which is middle-aged women.

00:31:20.900 So we went over Taylor earlier in the show, and how did she win?

00:31:25.860 She gets to marry a 6'5", alpha chad like Travis Kelsey.

00:31:31.440 Her kids will have his genetics.

00:31:33.960 She knows that he is the most masculine man she will ever get,

00:31:37.520 and he understands her business and is willing to play the game.

00:31:41.060 Travis wins.

00:31:42.860 Taylor makes more money so he doesn't have to worry about alimony

00:31:45.880 or child support if they get divorced.

00:31:47.760 That's a big thing, especially for athletes.

00:31:50.640 They do not want to risk losing their fortune because their time is done.

00:31:56.000 Not getting robbed, big selling point for athletes.

00:32:00.180 She has the money and the influence to get him whatever he wants

00:32:03.220 or whatever business ventures he wants to take on.

00:32:06.200 She's a pretty solid mid, pretty enough to be on his arm.

00:32:09.100 A lot of athletes, their status falls off when they stop playing their sport.

00:32:15.220 He has to marry through, he has to marry a ran-through girl anyways.

00:32:21.380 I mean, all the guys, they're marrying ran-through men, ran-through women to some degree.

00:32:28.120 Taylor Swift is going to become Taylor not-so-Swift if or when she has kids and puts on that weight.

00:32:37.400 Yeah, I'm telling you, I mean, these athletes, they get finessed.

00:32:40.620 So, taking away, I'm not saying it's a good deal.

00:32:44.380 But I don't think this is as bad of a deal as people are saying.

00:32:53.480 I don't think it's as bad.

00:33:04.380 So, and let me say this one more time.

00:33:08.360 Modern women will always use their relationship to build their brand.

00:33:12.800 Always, always, always.

00:33:13.900 that's the future. Adapt. Figure out how you can benefit from it or be left behind.

00:33:19.960 Let me see. Taylor.

00:33:31.920 We're going to play this. Hold on. Will I fix the camera a little bit more?

00:33:43.900 to end up with the right person.

00:33:57.180 Yep, the couple's headed toward the altar.

00:33:59.520 And there's no doubt their loved ones are on board, too.

00:34:02.260 A source previously telling E.T., Tay and Trav make a great match,

00:34:06.640 and there's no question about that.

00:34:08.800 Like, how lucky am I?

00:34:10.220 As for how their love story began.

00:34:13.900 It goes all the way back to July 2023, when the Kansas City Chiefs player fumbled while trying to shoot his shot with the singer at an Ares tour show.

00:34:24.020 Travis spilling the details on his New Heights podcast with brother Jason.

00:34:28.300 If you're up on Taylor Swift concerts, there are friendship bracelets.

00:34:32.400 I wanted to give Taylor Swift one with my number on it.

00:34:35.740 All right.

00:34:36.820 Your number's in 87 or your phone number?

00:34:39.920 You know which one.

00:34:42.320 Yeah, well, I was disappointed that she doesn't talk before or after her shows

00:34:47.920 because she has to save her voice for the 44 songs that she sings.

00:34:51.520 So I was a little butthurt.

00:34:52.720 Nobody can, you know, laugh at me more than me, and I promise you that.

00:34:56.740 A few short months later, fans started spotting Taylor at Travis's games.

00:35:01.900 Touchdown to Kelsey.

00:35:07.760 There she is.

00:35:09.300 Taylor Swift is in the building.

00:35:12.480 His number one fan, Taylor Swift, who is here in Arrowhead to cheer him on.

00:35:16.300 Folks in Kansas City, it is a love story on and off the field for Travis Kelsey.

00:35:21.960 How you doing?

00:35:23.400 Hey, how you doing?

00:35:24.780 I just have a great-

00:35:26.040 Now they're saying the relationship is cooked.

00:35:27.960 Guys, all relationships are cooked.

00:35:30.820 All of them.

00:35:32.980 So at least this way, he can get a kid.

00:35:35.940 he's not going to get raked through the coals in divorce court probably

00:35:41.000 he could even maybe throw her on alimony you got to look at it that way

00:35:46.980 no i'm not saying he'll be happy time with these things taylor showed travis

00:35:57.020 lots of support throughout the season not even a little bit shy about some pda on the field

00:36:02.880 after his big Super Bowl win.

00:36:06.060 It was unbelievable.

00:36:07.980 It was unbelievable.

00:36:10.460 That was the craziest thing I've ever experienced.

00:36:12.820 Oh, my God.

00:36:19.180 And while Tay showed up for Trav, he did the same for her.

00:36:25.340 Oh, you know I got to go support.

00:36:26.840 The NFL star cheering his girl on throughout her heiress tour.

00:36:32.880 I try, you know, spread the love.

00:36:38.680 At one point, Travis even made his onstage debut,

00:36:42.320 joining Taylor during the tortured poets department era.

00:36:54.880 I don't think he's a simp.

00:36:58.460 I don't.

00:36:59.920 I think this is a business move.

00:37:02.880 Look it.

00:37:05.380 He's like, you know what?

00:37:06.400 I'm not worried about any of these soft exes.

00:37:12.980 These women are ran through anyway.

00:37:17.600 I'm going to see where I can benefit.

00:37:20.020 That's what I think he did.

00:37:22.120 I'm going to see if I can make this less blurry.

00:37:24.080 Hold on.

00:37:27.320 Area or perfect time for me to go up there

00:37:29.860 just be a ham and uh have some fun it was just it was a blast man i had so much fun at the time

00:37:36.420 a source told et it was definitely a new defining point in their relationship and they had a blast

00:37:42.580 getting the chance to show a personal side of themselves with the world i love it and fans love

00:37:48.340 seeing these two in love listen i'm just enjoying life i'm living it to the fullest and i'm enjoying

00:37:53.300 it congrats to the lovebirds on their engagement it's been amazing loving it you could feel the

00:37:59.700 chemistry it's awesome man oh he's totally gynocentric someone said in the chat but most men are

00:38:17.140 why is this not getting less blurry this is annoying me let me get doug mpa on here

00:38:23.860 here. Doug MP, I'm putting this in the signal chat. You know, because we got to look at

00:38:36.580 Taylor Swift's dating history, okay? Let's go through it. And there's a lot. We're going

00:38:43.880 be here all day. Share this tab instead. All right. So we got Calvin Harris, Maddie Healy,

00:39:12.420 Tom Hiddleston, Joe Alwyn, Harry Styles, Connor Kennedy, John Mayer, Taylor Lautner, Joe Jonas,

00:39:22.640 Jake Gyllenhaal, Joe Jonas, Taylor Lautner, Tom Hiddleston, and now Travis Kelsey. So like,

00:39:31.060 look at this guy. You know what I mean? She does kind of have a type. He's all kind of fit in the

00:39:38.320 same, but you know what I mean? They're all like very feminine. Look, like he could beat all of

00:39:45.340 these guys up. You think like he's worried about, I think this is the one who really alpha widowed

00:39:54.300 her. Um, maybe he could be worried about John Mayer a little bit, but

00:40:02.180 you know what i mean it's like

00:40:07.100 i don't think this was the worst deal ever for him i really don't i don't think it was bad

00:40:14.420 um doug mpa how's it going hey how's it going i love this topic this is great

00:40:24.260 i i just don't i everyone's calling him a simp and i don't i know they're gonna say

00:40:31.820 it's because i'm a woman but for the deals i've seen men take i don't think this is the worst

00:40:37.900 deal ever at least let's say she divorces him at least he's probably not going to get screwed

00:40:45.900 financially she's setting a bad example he doesn't care about the example she's setting

00:40:54.220 he doesn't care you know go ahead you want to see how it would be if um

00:40:59.580 um travis kelsey's divorced taylor swift look at adele oh yeah adele had to pay her ex-husband

00:41:07.240 like 80 million dollars or something like that so guys travis i'm sorry taylor swift because

00:41:14.320 you can't say it pearl but i'll say it remember travis kelsey went through dating a bunch of

00:41:20.580 black chicks and i knew he wasn't gonna have kids because look most guys are race loyal when it

00:41:27.680 comes to children they want children to look like them so i knew that was a phase and i'd rather

00:41:33.320 have him marry taylor swift than any other women before her believe me because he uh i think his

00:41:40.920 last two or three girlfriends were all black number one number two um taylor swift knows

00:41:50.100 that she won by getting a

00:41:51.920 6'5 NFL player super

00:41:54.100 Chad like Travis Kelsey.

00:41:58.140 He's the best that she's going to be able

00:42:00.040 to get.

00:42:03.080 Tell me I'm lying.

00:42:06.060 You're not. I'm just having

00:42:07.900 the link to a few people.

00:42:09.840 Yeah. So for me

00:42:12.020 and then if they get

00:42:13.840 divorced, he's not going to have to pay alimony.

00:42:15.740 He's not going to have to pay child support.

00:42:17.540 He's going to have money

00:42:19.920 coming in for the rest of his life a lot of athletes fall off when they retire he's still

00:42:24.340 gonna have notoriety and fame and be on the scene now the only problem that he's gonna have well i

00:42:30.240 mean he's an nfl player so i'm hoping he's ready is you always say it pearly uh their family and

00:42:37.420 their brand is gonna be on social media now i don't think that they're gonna have a reality

00:42:42.700 show or anything like that i i think that taylor swift doesn't need anything like that

00:42:47.060 but their family and their marriage is gonna be in the public eye the entire time so i so

00:42:53.820 he doesn't have a choice yeah he has no choice in this yep uh the callers we have are coming

00:43:01.620 a little later so i think we'll take people from the chat because i got through the monologue

00:43:05.180 faster than i thought let me put this in and i'm gonna i can't figure out why my camera is still

00:43:14.420 blurry but here guys feel free to call in will you talk to them for a second yeah thoughts

00:43:24.100 like i said in the chat i would totally get taylor swift pregnant

00:43:28.020 i get 150 000 a month in child support that'd be great

00:43:34.980 yeah and guys i've been to scranton pennsylvania taylor swift looks like any mid from scranton

00:43:41.220 in pennsylvania i've been there and the fact that people think that she's this you know i mean yeah

00:43:47.960 she's a solid six and uh but yeah taylor swift and like and like pearly said oh yeah they say

00:43:58.340 that taylor swift has been run through okay maybe but travis kelsey is a six foot five nfl player

00:44:06.460 he smashed a bunch of girls in high school smashed a bunch of girls in college and he's

00:44:11.140 been in the nfl for how long he's been putting them down putting them back so he's not worried

00:44:16.780 about it like he's not gonna he can't get that attached if she leaves he's like whatever i'll

00:44:22.460 just yeah and and the other thing that's a benefit i forgot to say earlier if they break up he can

00:44:30.080 now get even hotter chicks because he dated taylor swift yeah exactly yeah so if they break up

00:44:36.520 i mean the girls he's gonna cheat with are gonna be even hotter yeah yeah and in fact um the only

00:44:45.060 way for an nfl player to get any more ass thrown at him than being an nfl player is to be taylor

00:44:54.740 swift's husband because every girl wants a piece of him i mean they want a piece of him before

00:44:59.580 but can you imagine the type of girl that travis kelsey would cheat on taylor swift with

00:45:05.900 i just see this being a win-win for him i mean he might get some musical kids like that are it's

00:45:13.420 like nepotist you know now they can either be athletes or musicians and if that doesn't work

00:45:18.840 out you know he can go bang hotter women there's one last thing i think that taylor swift she comes

00:45:25.880 from i mean i think she comes from a let me put it this way i don't think that travis kelsey has

00:45:34.120 to worry about um his kids getting transformed like a lot of these other men have to with their

00:45:44.920 their children's mothers i don't think that taylor swift would pull an angelina jolie

00:45:50.200 or a Charlize Theron and transform Travis Kelsey's kids.

00:45:55.540 So, Sean, how do you think Taylor Swift pulled this off at 35?

00:46:00.360 And do you think this was a favorable deal to Travis?

00:46:04.960 Yeah, I mean, as to how Taylor Swift kind of pulled this off at 35,

00:46:09.600 I mean, in my opinion, I would say at 35,

00:46:11.680 she looks a lot better than most women at 35, right?

00:46:14.220 So I would say for all the cosmetic procedures

00:46:17.540 she's likely done over the years to kind of maintain her her youth at her current age i mean

00:46:22.400 i would say she looks pretty good i'm not saying she looks like a 10 but for like a celebrity at

00:46:27.980 her age i would say she looks pretty good uh that and she has kind of the you know influence and

00:46:33.960 sort of access to you know whether it's you know brand deals or endorsements i think travis kelsey

00:46:40.000 is looking more from a business standpoint if that makes sense and i think that's true for most

00:46:43.580 celebrity guys. I think they're not looking to take the L by marrying regular girls anymore.

00:46:48.280 Like a lot of NFL and NBA athletes, like, you know, they marry a regular girl, they get divorced.

00:46:53.140 You know, they're paying like $30,000, $100,000 a month in child support, alimony, etc.

00:46:59.120 To your point, you know, if he marries a celebrity, he's gonna, he's gonna get a good

00:47:03.780 deal out of it, right? So whether it's any podcast deals with his brother and that New

00:47:08.260 Heights podcast, you know, I think they got like $100 million deal just for the fact that

00:47:11.900 he's dating taylor swift and that made the news that makes you know that podcast worth a lot now

00:47:17.460 so i see this as a net positive for himself and you know come 10 15 years when eventually you

00:47:24.400 know the marriage probably doesn't work out he's not taking an l if anything he's probably made

00:47:28.440 hundreds of millions of dollars off of it yeah and like he's not like this guy here hold on let

00:47:37.780 me show the screen here we go tyrese i mean let's see how old his wife was let's see how old a

00:47:49.240 regular i don't know anything to be fair i don't i know nothing about his wife so i could be proven

00:47:56.340 wrong in a second wife who was his wife kina only married for 17 months early 17 months age

00:48:06.840 she's 28 they're married two years about together wait how long were they together

00:48:14.960 uh together how long

00:48:21.560 uh they were together eight years oh wow yeah so he he was with this girl since she was 19 or 20

00:48:33.100 holy crap and then they made for 17 months and she divorced him and he has to give her one of

00:48:42.280 his mansions a 500k payout i think she gets like fifty thousand dollars a month or something like

00:48:48.280 that it's insane yeah for sure i mean uh you know i think the one who's really taking the l here is

00:48:55.420 honestly taylor swift if we're being honest right like no no i don't think so no way new because

00:49:01.940 look he's a six foot five alpha chad she gets she gets the genetics and will get to keep the kids

00:49:09.000 i think a girl like taylor swift is not going to try to play games with you know the kids if

00:49:15.420 you know she and travis kelsey get divorced that's not good for her image if that makes sense

00:49:19.240 so i see travis kelsey coming out ahead in that standpoint and they obviously have the money to

00:49:24.200 fly the kids back and forth but it's not like travis kelsey has anywhere near the wealth and

00:49:29.080 influence that taylor swift has so if you're looking at from a business standpoint who's

00:49:33.260 getting the the net positive i i see it more going to kelsey than it is to taylor swift

00:49:38.260 oh sure in a business point of view but the the um like in the sexual marketplace she's not going

00:49:47.200 to get better yeah she's not you know like she's not hot enough for her way so i think at 35 she

00:49:55.140 has to be more realistic go ahead pearl go ahead what were you saying oh i was just saying that i

00:50:00.720 don't think she could do better like she's like a sick she can't do better than that you know

00:50:05.720 yeah and remember the there's the female measure of success and then and the man measure measure

00:50:12.900 of success taylor swift is still a woman so if you're like whoa she's gonna lose money with

00:50:17.840 women if she gets the husband and the genetics she won yeah i mean i guess you would have to

00:50:27.040 say you know beyonce didn't exactly get the genetics out of jay-z you get what i'm saying

00:50:31.760 but like that's the only billionaire that's on the market for her so she took that off the market but

00:50:36.720 taylor swift won't find another billionaire guy so she kind of has to settle for okay what's the

00:50:41.760 next best and you know three times super bowl six foot five athlete is probably the best she can do

00:50:47.520 so i think that's why she made the call when she met him two years ago that okay this is going to

00:50:52.080 be the guy i'm gonna sort of business partner up with you get what i'm saying here's the thing

00:50:56.720 about the whole business decision with travis kelsey i don't think there are more blatant

00:51:02.800 examples of business decision marriages than travis kelsey and um and taylor swift like

00:51:09.280 russell wilson and sierra that was a business marriage because remember russell wilson wasn't

00:51:16.000 really part of the black community until he married Sierra and Sierra gave him some street

00:51:20.980 cred. You know what I'm saying? But I don't really see that as much in the function behind

00:51:28.300 Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift besides the fact that they actually like, maybe actually like each

00:51:33.900 other, I guess. I don't know about that. I feel like Travis Kelsey could do better. You know what

00:51:39.040 I mean? Like if he went to LA right now, he could get an LA nine or a 10 easy. Yeah, but I think

00:51:45.600 that taylor swift is less of a headache than la 9 and 10 too i would agree with that like girls who

00:51:52.900 have sort of business ventures and money going on like they won't take as much risk with like

00:51:58.840 causing havoc in a guy's life than girls who like basically have nothing to lose so if you look at

00:52:03.600 that last article you pulled up with tyreek right uh you know the reason why he's paying out a lot

00:52:08.200 of money is because you know when pro athletes or celebrities marry regular women that are modern

00:52:14.200 right they can pretty much throw everything at the guy and you know they're not taking a loss

00:52:18.880 from their end so they got nothing to lose right it's the same thing with shannon sharp the reason

00:52:22.640 why he's paying out the nose is he you know he decided to get involved with an only fans girl

00:52:26.700 who has nothing to lose so any nda she you know signs doesn't really mean anything because how

00:52:31.840 can you take money from a girl who has no money versus taylor swift more than likely travis kelsey

00:52:37.120 will likely have you know behind the scenes some sort of non-disparagement agreements that they're

00:52:41.700 not allowed to say anything about each other in public in a negative light whether they're you

00:52:46.280 know you know dating now or even after they get divorced so that he's covered from his end you

00:52:51.660 get what i'm saying yes sean pro i have an article about tyreek hill it says hill's 15 month marriage

00:53:00.140 to kita vaccaro has become a pricey fumble to the eight-time pro bowler who's about to start his

00:53:05.200 fourth season with the dolphins he's paying his estranged wife between 20 to 50 000 per month and

00:53:11.200 spending money on top of a one-off check for $500,000. She's getting a further $457,517

00:53:20.380 towards her legal fees, $100,000 is spent on a new car, and exclusive use of their formal

00:53:27.720 marital home. A $5.5 million waterfront condo in Miami with Hill picking up the tab for the

00:53:34.720 mortgage, insurance, utilities, and internet. And this woman was a fitness influencer.

00:53:42.540 No, I mean, but that's a good point, right? You see a lot of men getting involved with girls who

00:53:47.580 basically have nothing going for themselves, right? So those who have been on the dating market,

00:53:53.180 they understand that the girls who have nothing going for themselves, who are looking for a meal

00:53:57.120 ticket, those are going to be the much crazier girls to deal with then. And Pearl, I think you

00:54:02.600 mentioned that your brothers right they tend to date more nerdy like professionally oriented

00:54:07.460 girls one of the reasons why like guys who are engineers and very smart like kind of do that

00:54:12.920 is not just to have things in common to talk with a girl about they also on some level know that

00:54:18.080 when a girl has something to lose from their end whether it's their reputation or their job

00:54:22.440 they're just more likely to act better than a girl who you know works behind the counter at

00:54:26.940 Wendy's. She has nothing to lose if she wants to burn your entire life down. Yeah. I can't believe

00:54:33.260 that Tyreek was with her for eight years, 17 months. Oh my gosh. They had a shared YouTube

00:54:40.740 channel. Oh man. I know, man. And you know, a lot of these girls, you know, they'll get involved

00:54:50.000 with athletes and stuff like that. And it's not just the money. It's not just the genetics that

00:54:54.220 they're after. It's also the clout that they want from these guys. They want to start their own

00:54:58.180 IGs. They want to get followers by being married or dating a guy who's a celebrity. And once they

00:55:03.880 racked up some 10,000 followers, 100,000 followers, when the marriage isn't working out,

00:55:08.980 they're just going to leave because they got what they wanted. Let's see.

00:55:13.160 Wait, are you okay? What is going on? Mom?

00:55:18.940 There is a family emergency.

00:55:21.100 what gave you three reasons why i love you well one bit one yeah she was playing him yeah he's

00:55:36.700 cooked at the brain he was so smart and you're very sweet to me and you inspire me to be better

00:55:44.380 than who i am so each day she's gonna show that in court ah ah oh man

00:55:53.580 you see that that look she gave him did you hear what he just said what what part

00:55:59.900 put it back like five seconds

00:56:08.700 did you hear that i want to make you a queen oh what the hell

00:56:14.380 i mean he ate those words where are you what happened to this youtube channel oh it's still up

00:56:24.000 oh man

00:56:26.400 do you see how her name is first and his name is second

00:56:33.840 yeah man what's up guys it's tyree kill my beautiful girlfriend here as you guys know

00:56:42.200 we have officially launched this page you know new year new page new vibes new energy you know

00:56:48.780 so to launch this page off we're gonna do a 3v3 versus some of us

00:56:53.300 he got her best year now she i think women get more bitter when they give you your best year

00:57:03.740 their best years too so they just make you pay worse so he he he has seven children with five

00:57:13.100 women oh yeah so him and uh him and homegirl right there have one child and he has six other children

00:57:26.700 and i grew up in the hood that was actually very common in my high school

00:57:35.420 oh i gotta see brett i gotta see brett cooper's reaction

00:57:41.340 what's your thoughts uh kit kitten cart kitten dart

00:57:50.860 so i've been doing multitasking so carry on with what you're doing

00:57:56.300 and i'll try and contribute in a bit okay i want to react i want to see

00:58:02.380 if brett cooper's reaction is gynocentric let me see what was it okay share this tab instead

00:58:10.300 we're in the episode of the show because taylor swift and travis kelsey just broke the internet

00:58:27.460 with their engagement announcement and i have a few reasons why you need to hear even if you're

00:58:32.580 a guy even if you are not a swifty so for some context some recap just a few hours ago taylor

00:58:38.420 they did a collab post on instagram they posted photos from the proposal they said your favorite

00:58:44.980 english teacher and your favorite gym teacher just got engaged it was very sweet everything's

00:58:48.740 lovely the ring is beautiful we'll get into that later that's not part of the cultural conversation

00:58:52.500 but if you're interested in that i do have some details anyway they announced this and the world

00:58:57.860 just exploded like the internet came to a screeching halt i was seeing posts on x from people

00:59:03.220 being like oh my god fox news just cut away from a cabinet meeting to say taylor swift is officially

00:59:08.900 engaged this is how big it is i made the joke on x and i said if there was ever a time for a

00:59:13.860 politician to release a story to the press that they don't really want to get any traction on

00:59:20.100 if they want to like quietly release everything taylor swift that is how massive this is kelsey

00:59:26.340 is also wildly famous and popular around you know american men people who care about 25 specifically

00:59:31.940 on the topic of forever boyfriends, because Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift just got engaged

00:59:36.720 after two years of dating. And that might seem like normal in the grand scheme of things. But

00:59:41.820 in 2025, when you go on social media and you see girls that have been with their boyfriends for

00:59:45.460 five years, seven years, 10 years, that are still waiting on an engagement that are these like

00:59:49.900 forever girlfriends, this kind of relationship can seem like an anomaly. And Taylor Swift basically

00:59:54.960 just blew up that entire idea that you have to be a forever girlfriend in order to get the ring.

01:00:00.720 that is just not true because we think about her previous relationship see this is exactly what i

01:00:05.020 was saying average women are gonna think they can get this kind of result oof yeah that's that's

01:00:14.460 where it's going that's going to be the takeaway you too look at taylor swift you too can have

01:00:20.840 this result you know i would honestly agree with that like uh every time i see a girl who's like

01:00:26.960 33 34 35 who like uh you know whether they were ex-contestants on love is blind or what have you

01:00:33.340 end up with like a six foot four chad they always post on instagram never settle and you see in the

01:00:38.960 comment section so many women saying you manifested it or you know some nonsense about how like they

01:00:45.860 support like girls who hold out for more so i think it sort of amplifies that even with taylor

01:00:50.900 swift doing that you know what i mean yeah no i know and the thing is because the women waiting

01:00:55.920 for a ring like the man more than the ring you know what i'm saying like they usually like the

01:01:01.420 guys more than the women that are in agenda mode and say i'm not going to stay unless i get the

01:01:06.260 ring i'm not saying they should or shouldn't do that right that's for every woman to decide

01:01:10.600 but like i mean you can tell how much a woman likes a guy when she doesn't get what she wants

01:01:17.200 and still sticks around um i would agree with that you know i've seen girls wait five eight

01:01:23.000 10 years just to get a ring from a particular guy they really liked versus a lot of women when

01:01:28.460 they're after 30 they say you got one or two years to propose or i'm out and that kind of tells you

01:01:33.060 where they stand on the website believe said if seeing two loved ones counting their blessings

01:01:39.040 is not a good opportunity to rejoice then when all right let me see she was with that man for

01:01:48.940 seven years and there have been rumors that Shay was like actually engaged to him but you know it

01:01:54.400 was really private but he was this like artsy like deep actor all of these things he like

01:02:00.220 desperately wanted his privacy wanted her to hide the relationship she was like not in the public

01:02:04.980 eye for seven years straight um and basically dragged her along in that relationship but I'm

01:02:10.080 not just saying that because I'm speculating like this is what she wrote about in one of her

01:02:13.720 previous albums in her song you're losing me she said like I gave all of my youth for free to you

01:02:18.540 um in so long London I believe that she wrote I don't understand when women say they gave you

01:02:23.900 your youth it's like you're gonna get older anyways like the time is gonna pass either way

01:02:30.240 like why are you guys acting like you got nothing out of the relationships

01:02:34.520 all right okay something very similar those two lines sometimes I get confused but she wrote about

01:02:39.360 this at length saying like I gave you all of my great years and you took advantage of that like

01:02:43.620 I poured so much into this relationship just wait yeah so it's gonna be back you deserve more

01:02:48.460 do less. Give him less, take more. That's going to be give him less youth, take more status and

01:02:55.320 money. And that's what I mean. Conservatives, they want men to lose. They always want to

01:03:01.360 benefit the woman. Now, maybe you could argue that she's right, right? I'm not telling women

01:03:08.420 how to play it one way or the other. But what I am saying here is that conservatives are always

01:03:15.340 gonna go to the side of the woman always always like hanging on in so long london she writes about

01:03:20.220 like clenching onto the relationship like white knuckling it being like i'm not going down to the

01:03:24.460 ship i'm not abandoning it and then seven years later getting nothing back and realizing i've

01:03:28.940 just like let my life be on hold and i've been waiting for this person who doesn't want to commit

01:03:32.860 to me anyway that was her previous relationship she was the forever girlfriend she moves on

01:03:37.980 she meets this incredible guy who comes to her concert who literally has like a friendship

01:03:42.700 bracelet with his number on it he was publicly making these huge declarations of love um which

01:03:47.420 she said in her recent podcast episode with him and jason she was saying like these are this is

01:03:52.620 the kind of love that i've written about for 15 years like i've wanted a guy yeah

01:04:00.540 uh yeah now average women this is what i mean average women are gonna think this is gonna

01:04:06.300 happen for them it's not and pearl you know if you ever watch any of those hallmark um

01:04:17.500 cheesy love movies where you know the the woman uh her her parents business is in trouble in some

01:04:25.180 small town so she has to leave the big city to save her parents a coffee shop and then she she

01:04:32.540 runs into the the um the handyman and they hate each other at first and then they all have to come

01:04:38.540 together to save the coffee shop then like you know uh at the end they end up kissing and the

01:04:43.580 movie always ends with them getting good together why does the movie always end right there it's

01:04:48.940 because that's the easy part taylor's gonna be writing about all this romance but wait till she

01:04:55.580 gets married you know what i'm saying women see marriage as the end goal you know what i mean

01:05:01.740 but it's not like they see marriage as the end but that's the beginning like the life together

01:05:09.180 the getting old but not being a forever that's like the hard part you know one thing brett cooper

01:05:16.380 just said was just kind of interesting and it's kind of something i think we all know for a while

01:05:21.340 but we don't really talk about is that women see them investing their time with a guy especially

01:05:26.700 their youth as a more worthwhile investment in a relationship than a guy's time. Like no guy ever

01:05:34.720 says to a woman, I can't believe I invested my youth with you. Right. But they regret spending

01:05:39.420 a lot of money on a girl who ended up leaving or what have you, because they feel like they wasted

01:05:44.320 a lot of money. But girls view their time as their most like their youth and beauty as their

01:05:49.600 most valuable asset. And to your point, most girls aren't going to give their youth and beauty to

01:05:53.900 your regular guy they'll give their you know 30s and beyond you know if that guy serves a purpose

01:05:59.180 money-wise but that's pretty much it so it kind of tells you sort of this traditional conservative

01:06:04.020 mindset which is don't invest your youth and beauty with like a guy who's not worth your time

01:06:09.440 but his time is basically not valued wow that was a great point you cooked keep cooking sean

01:06:16.920 like show up with a boom box and be like i love you i want to be with you and that's basically

01:06:22.720 what Travis did. And they've had this amazing love affair over the last two years. And now

01:06:27.220 they're engaged in a fraction of the time that she was in that relationship with Jo Allen. So

01:06:31.920 that's one part of it. So you do not need to be a forever girlfriend if you are in a relationship

01:06:36.220 like that. I'm sure that the guys are like, oh my God, I need to go buy a ring. Girls are

01:06:39.640 rethinking everything. Which brings me to the next point of why this engagement is so relevant and

01:06:45.400 important right now. And it's because I don't know if there are any hard studies on this. I don't

01:06:50.780 think that there are but celebrity relationships and celebrity marriages play a huge role in the

01:06:57.240 cultural tone of an era okay let me just all right birth rate look not not really brett the birth

01:07:07.460 rate's still gonna go down i don't predict this is really gonna affect anything if anything it

01:07:14.860 will make it worse because women will expect Travis Kelsey to bail them out at 35. And

01:07:21.120 unfortunately for women, nobody's coming. So you too, Brett, are a mid who won and we're very happy

01:07:30.560 for you. But you have to understand that you're in a different class than most women. You're in

01:07:36.020 the media, like conservative influencer sphere. The average woman in conservative media marries

01:07:41.420 men worth two million dollars two million that's not average that's not normal america

01:07:48.860 um okay let me continue like think about david beckham and victoria beckham and their wedding

01:07:54.060 think about you know um princess kate and prince william and their wedding that was huge the royal

01:07:59.100 wedding was talked about for years just you know a couple of years ago we had sophia ritchie's

01:08:03.340 wedding which basically made so many women you know decide that they wanted to get married okay

01:08:08.940 let's look at average age okay when did sophia richie get married we're gonna look at this

01:08:14.860 sophia richie got married when um so she got married in 2023 okay so it's been two years

01:08:26.780 since then has the average age of first marriage for women gone up or down it's in fact gone up

01:08:35.980 up not down so yeah it didn't really do anything i just you know i don't i really hate being the

01:08:46.080 bearer of bad news but i just really like to stay accurate on this channel i just and i think it

01:08:52.660 kind of doesn't i think it doesn't win me any points because it's way easier to sell hope

01:08:59.320 but guys i mean look at it the all this is gonna do is change the menu you used to get

01:09:08.020 a 28 year old bride now it's gonna be 35 welcome to the future um but i mean they wanted to stop

01:09:16.620 go ahead yeah i was gonna say i think most women would rather be single and get to just do what

01:09:23.120 they want to do in life than be with a regular guy and have to compromise in life like to them

01:09:28.200 they see that more as a downside. And that's why specifically in their twenties, when they have

01:09:32.580 their most sexual capital, they don't want to invest that with a regular guy. Like if they

01:09:36.640 find a, you know, a very tall, good looking, successful guy, then they'll settle down with

01:09:40.760 that guy. But for a regular guy, no, they're not going to do that. Like they see that as an

01:09:44.780 opportunity cost to them. So like, I don't see that changing as long as, you know, women have

01:09:49.320 the ability to do what they want to do in life. I'm just going to say it. This is kind of off

01:09:56.500 topic i'm sorry go ahead i'm sorry just just one thing really quick and then all the women will

01:10:01.040 say get married like women to average men right but it's all the women that got married and

01:10:06.580 compromised nothing do you know what i mean it'll be like i got pregnant let me take the fox news

01:10:12.540 job you know what like or like i'm yeah i'm having this kid let me run for office and i'm like

01:10:18.920 you didn't sacrifice anything which is fine i'm not saying to you but it's it's a little bit like

01:10:25.020 it's kind of like queens and kings saying you know do this thing but it's like you're you're

01:10:32.040 living like royalty Doug MPA go ahead this is kind of off topic but Sophia Ritchie is Lionel

01:10:38.620 Ritchie's biological daughter and Lionel Ritchie is one of the ugliest men on the planet like like

01:10:44.440 his head his face is the size of a U.S. Capitol like like a freaking Denver Colorado and that's

01:10:53.240 His daughter is that attractive?

01:10:55.740 Who knew that was going to happen?

01:10:57.780 I'm sorry, Sophia, Richie, what would you rate her as?

01:11:01.960 Eight off the top of my head.

01:11:03.700 Have you seen Lionel Richie, his face?

01:11:08.360 Richie, I'll do, and Dad, I'll share my screen.

01:11:13.460 Look at Lionel Richie's face.

01:11:16.920 Look at that.

01:11:18.060 Because most daughters have

01:11:21.060 Daughters have their

01:11:23.180 Father's face on their mother's head

01:11:25.100 And sons have their mother's face

01:11:26.740 On their father's head

01:11:29.200 And like

01:11:30.660 Look at oh my god I can't believe it

01:11:33.740 Yeah she's

01:11:35.100 She kind of looks like neither

01:11:39.280 Yeah but you have to look at her

01:11:43.280 Before plastic surgery right

01:11:44.760 She didn't look as good as she does now right

01:11:46.840 uh let's see before class okay let's see it just pops right up

01:11:55.100 i don't think she looks that different just the nose

01:11:59.280 but which is a weird looking dude man i mean his music is good but bro like

01:12:11.920 oh there you go on the left yeah the nose job did help her a lot but she has i think on the

01:12:19.120 white girl because she's mixed the black lips look pretty good on her gives her a lot of points

01:12:24.480 because most white women have pretty thin lips um let me show this there's some like clothes

01:12:31.440 and be classy she like ushered in this like quiet luxury right like are you looking outside

01:12:36.960 nobody's dressing more modestly like nobody modest type of fashion like these relationships

01:12:47.640 these weddings these marriages they have the power to change culture no and if you think that

01:12:52.100 i don't i just hate i hate having to keep you the bearer of bad news but they don't

01:12:57.480 no it doesn't it doesn't change it does not change if you're gonna say this stuff changes things

01:13:06.960 then what I need you to do is prove that it changes something.

01:13:11.120 But if you look at the trends, they're the same.

01:13:14.580 They are the same.

01:13:15.900 Taylor Swift, getting married, being engaged,

01:13:18.960 being in a long-term relationship is not going to do that.

01:13:21.420 I don't know what to tell you.

01:13:22.660 Like, this is the end-all, be-all for women around the world right now.

01:13:26.400 I was about to say women in America, but really around the world right now.

01:13:29.620 And you might think that this is kind of ridiculous,

01:13:31.660 but she is signaling that marriage is something to strive for,

01:13:36.180 that love is worth seeing. Yeah. So again, no, no, no, no. She's signaling. You can stick the

01:13:41.000 landing at 35. That's the signal is you can wait till 35, have 22 ex-boyfriends. And like,

01:13:49.620 it's like conservatives will say from one end of their mouth, don't sleep around and don't be a

01:13:54.460 whore. But then when a whore gets married, they clap. You know, granted in this economy, I mean,

01:14:01.840 taylor swift's like a mid-tier whore i'd say

01:14:05.280 you know what i mean like there's like there's like entertainment i wouldn't really put her at

01:14:12.720 the top like i'd put like cardi b that's like a high tier whore um she's like she's like a mid

01:14:23.280 tier whore um like i wouldn't in entertainment she might be a prude yeah i was about to say that

01:14:30.320 do you think that her music is going to change once she she get married and also do you think

01:14:35.340 that because taylor swift is getting married that more women are going to do a thing where

01:14:39.600 they want to get married but then end up divorce are we going to see more quick marriages where

01:14:45.200 they find a guy to marry just to get the marriage because of taylor swift and then divorce like

01:14:49.700 like a year or two later i think all the millennial girls that are like 35 plus that

01:14:54.580 are still holding out just got like another glimpse of hope just to wait a little bit longer

01:14:58.940 you'll find your travis kelsey actually i should tweet that ladies don't worry

01:15:05.060 your travis kelsey is coming

01:15:07.020 i should do like a pandering of the day segment where i just pander

01:15:13.440 yeah never settle yeah ladies um never settle um yeah between like between 10 a.m and 11 a.m

01:15:23.020 every single day you should spend that hour with four or five pandering tweets every day

01:15:27.840 thinking out that you should wait for an amazing guy that you should you know you know follow that

01:15:35.940 institution you know and seek that commitment I guess is what I'm trying to say um and so I'll

01:15:40.160 be interested to see what comes from this I doubt that they're going to do some huge elaborate

01:15:43.980 wedding I feel like it'll be more of an elopement I don't think she would you know I feel like she

01:15:47.840 would blow up the wedding industrial complex if she tried to do some big kind of wedding but I

01:15:52.580 think that this marriage really is going to change things and I think that it is objectively positive

01:15:56.100 Like, regardless of how you feel about Taylor Swift, like, I would not consider myself a diehard

01:16:01.020 Swifty. I was not like a Swifty for years and years and years. But I do love her music. And I

01:16:05.120 think that she's a really interesting person and a really interesting case study. And she's really

01:16:08.300 important when it comes to our culture. But I do think that this is objectively positive. And what

01:16:12.980 I was trying to say is that even if you are not a diehard fan, you should see this as something

01:16:17.380 that is good. I know that conservatives like to rag on her. Trump was posting, you know, a couple

01:16:21.840 months ago being like i ended her she's okay but see again it's women will always defend whoring

01:16:28.800 always and then look at i'm not

01:16:34.080 you know look i'm not here to tell a grown woman she can do what she wants she's an adult if they're

01:16:38.880 consenting whatever but my point is conservative women they say they're like they're for traditional

01:16:44.800 values but you have to understand right now they're supporting ivf children i mean these

01:16:49.760 kids are most likely going to be an ivf kids which is it is what it is right uh whatever but

01:16:58.080 it's that's always they always default to defending no she's not like lover or hater

01:17:05.200 she is incredibly incredibly influential she's incredibly popular and we should be rooting for her

01:17:10.640 to set a you know a good example for women and men around the world and i think that she is doing

01:17:15.760 that with this engagement with this marriage so anyway i wish her all the best this was a very

01:17:20.320 exciting thing to spend my day reading about and then for any of the chicks out there who

01:17:24.960 are interested in her ring because i was 100 interested in it um it's stunning it's like

01:17:29.760 very intricate it looked antique so i texted um our jeweler that made my engagement ring with

01:17:34.800 alex who's become a really good friend of ours that feels like so bougie to say but he just has

01:17:38.640 become a good friend and i was like i need information about this so according to oren

01:17:43.680 that's his name according to orin it is an elongated old mine cut um ring and most likely

01:17:49.680 antique or antique inspired and he said that it's really rare to have a mine cut that is that

01:17:54.000 big so just saying good job travis allegedly it was like 550 thousand dollars which is like

01:18:01.120 literally insane but also she's a billion yeah i'm not really

01:18:05.040 shocked they're bringing up the ring uh kit i brought you back up

01:18:09.760 let me go back to the panel

01:18:15.440 how's it going you have thoughts how did taylor swift win

01:18:19.360 well she's got a big a big healthy guy right so that can't be bad he's a he's a chad as you say

01:18:28.480 so he's got yeah so how do you think she pulled it off at 35. how do you think she pulled it off at

01:18:36.800 35 what are your thoughts ah well she made a lot of uh she makes music right she makes a lot of

01:18:46.480 admissions through her music it's her creative process so i think that allows her a bit of

01:18:56.400 a platform to express herself um i don't know what would this i mean in terms of do you mean

01:19:07.600 in terms of like the courtship by pulling it off um okay i'll just ask do you think this

01:19:16.880 was a favorable deal to travis yes okay why

01:19:29.760 because do you mean financially or just like in the general like scheme of like

01:19:34.880 you know general life he doesn't get purity doesn't get youth but he gets a billion dollars

01:19:40.640 so favorable unfavorable yeah i mean he's got taylor swift she's a beautiful woman

01:19:48.400 they're gonna get married have kids like i put her at like a six i put her at a six too

01:19:54.880 you put you guys are funny man no look man look she's from scranton pennsylvania i've been in

01:20:02.240 scranton pennsylvania you can't throw a rock without hitting a taylor swift in scranton

01:20:07.680 in pennsylvania she looks like a regular mid from pennsylvania i've been there i tell you

01:20:12.220 well you gotta look at it through more of a business lens right if he gets let's say a

01:20:17.500 billion dollars because he gets a percentage of whatever business ventures they go into after

01:20:21.340 they get married and have kids into sort of the the mother market you know for any child products

01:20:26.460 things like that and let's say after 10 years they get divorced and he gets let's say about

01:20:31.140 a hundred million dollars per year you know average that out for every hour he has to listen

01:20:36.160 her nagging you know he's coming out financially versus most guys are taking it out if you buy

01:20:41.200 so much money than this most of them do it for free yeah it's like talking about how her wedding

01:20:48.400 ring you know her engagement ring is five hundred thousand dollars if she divorces him i mean he

01:20:54.960 gets that back in spades so he continues to buy her whatever he wants when they marry because

01:20:59.440 he's gonna get that and more when they get divorced absolutely and you know one thing i

01:21:05.760 wanted to mention if you look at what brett cooper just said in her video they don't tell men to wait

01:21:11.600 for a nice kind guy who tries who comes along they say wait for that incredible guy and you'll know

01:21:17.920 most conservative like female commentators they always use that sort of coded language

01:21:23.920 which is to wait for an incredible guy well what percentage of guys can be incredible you know what

01:21:28.800 what i mean yeah and remember women are being celebrated for waiting and staying single whereas

01:21:36.480 you know you see women would but guys 30 35 has never been married or doesn't have any kids it's

01:21:43.420 a red flag it's a complete double standard now and then also the trad con save you know don't

01:21:50.000 hold out for you know a good woman just marry these hoes because she says that she's been saved

01:21:56.240 what if i said what if i said fellas fellas hold out for a 22 year old do not accept anything above

01:22:04.020 20 above 22 22 and um an eight plus if she if she has b cups i mean you should just pass go

01:22:12.800 everyone would look at me funny right but they have no problem telling women to hold out for

01:22:17.700 an incredible guy yeah go ahead yeah so i was gonna say like uh like i would say the women

01:22:23.580 tend to tell other women to hold out for longer versus like if you look at the daily wire crew

01:22:29.100 right they pretty much tell men to just take what women that are out there and try to work with them

01:22:33.760 and the reason for that is you know you could say okay they're trying to be do you know be do the

01:22:38.540 whole christian do the right thing turn the other cheek but my more cynical lens is i think the daily

01:22:43.980 wire doesn't have much of a female conservative audience and they're really looking to grow in

01:22:49.140 that space but they're not stupid right so they kind of know that if you tell anything that women

01:22:53.980 don't want to hear they kind of just turn off the channel right they won't listen to you if you say

01:22:58.020 things that are constructive but go against their worldview so the charlie kirks of the world the

01:23:02.920 daily wires of the world they kind of have to tell men to just man up and be the man that she wants

01:23:08.760 because their hope is that's going to grow their female fan base because right now i would say

01:23:13.540 they're probably 90 percent male fan base and so that's because youtube's like 75 80 percent

01:23:20.100 male and the 20 percent that are women are either later laser focused on their what they want to

01:23:28.300 watch or their fair weather so like the smallest thing will turn them off from your channel so you

01:23:33.960 are 100 correct pretty much and that's why you see charlie kirk never you know dares to say

01:23:38.820 anything negative about a woman or you know how bad some of them are acting and it's the same with

01:23:43.120 the, you know, the Matt Walsh's and what have you just be, they'll say bad things about liberal

01:23:47.800 girls, but they won't say anything bad about the conservative girls for the most part until recent

01:23:52.360 time periods, just because they start seeing a lot of men are just not listening to a lot of the

01:23:56.540 conservative commentators as well. So now they're starting to see this, you know, the red pill sort

01:24:00.780 of content is really taking off. And if they're going to lose market demographic to that, you

01:24:05.980 know, then they're going to be obsolete at a certain point. So now you start seeing a few

01:24:10.080 segments here and there for matt walsh and other folks trying to somewhat appeal to it same thing

01:24:14.720 with you know steven well steven crowder is going that way because you know he's divorced so uh he's

01:24:19.580 going through his transformation but uh i would say i think my cynical lenses i think they view

01:24:24.600 it more from a business standpoint yeah and also how do i grow my subscribers have you noticed that

01:24:30.540 they are replacing the male commentators with female so like they just signed that other girl

01:24:36.520 the blonde the Isabella oh yeah they did yeah yeah so I bet you it's like half female at least

01:24:43.220 I mean pretty much right every time you know Candace Owens or Brett Cooper leaves the show

01:24:48.040 after you know joining within a year or two they're like oh shit we're about to lose all

01:24:51.880 our female subscribers so we need to figure out how to get another voice who's gonna you know

01:24:55.760 say the talking points we want and hopefully grow our following there so I think they see the numbers

01:25:00.220 and it's not looking good you guys know that um the 52 of broadcasters on um on a mainstream

01:25:07.900 tv like cable and stuff are women now 52 percent well it was funny i saw brett she posted something

01:25:17.500 the other day that was like it was like men need to stop or women men need to stop invading women's

01:25:27.100 spaces or i forgot what it was it was either that i think it might have been that women like

01:25:33.740 shouldn't invade men's spaces either and i'm like it's kind of ironic because you're doing that too

01:25:38.380 so am i right but i'm like i'm like like you're taking someone's contract at the daily wire that

01:25:45.580 would have gone to a man before and you're it's most likely you're not as qualified um i mean

01:25:52.220 mean that's just the game it is what it is but yeah i mean i think there was a study out there

01:25:57.260 they actually said there are more like trans uh i think what is it trans men than there are trans

01:26:04.640 women meaning that there are more women that transition to be men than it is actually the

01:26:08.980 other way around that just tends to really yeah i mean that's what the study that was put out there

01:26:13.380 which i found very shocking because i know that 70 over 70 percent of all people that identify as

01:26:19.420 non-binary are biological white women.

01:26:23.240 That doesn't surprise me.

01:26:25.180 You don't see many people turning around

01:26:28.040 and saying women are invading male spaces,

01:26:30.220 whether it's in the worker or whether it's

01:26:32.000 just going into men's bathrooms.

01:26:34.340 It shows you that they really just don't care about men.

01:26:37.360 It's really just more about women.

01:26:39.660 Yeah, I agree. Those are really good insights.

01:26:44.560 What else have you noticed from the Daily Wire?

01:26:46.680 You got any other thoughts on it?

01:26:50.260 I mean, my general thoughts is I think they just try to play to their subscribers.

01:26:56.100 Like, if you look at the views of their videos, they're not doing really well.

01:26:59.300 Like, Brett Cooper blows them out of the water pretty much on her average videos and there.

01:27:03.260 So I think they see that, you know, their channels are tending to die for the most part.

01:27:07.420 And they're trying to revive any sort of female fan base that they can, as well as they also know they're losing a lot of the male fan base to a lot of the red pill content creators.

01:27:15.220 and just you know most content sort of life cycles it's usually about seven years anyways

01:27:20.600 so after seven years it's really hard to keep a channel going unless you're just putting out

01:27:25.120 real high quality content and you have a loyal fan base and so i think they're they're trying

01:27:30.340 to revive it in any way they can uh and you see that with a lot of channels in general just all

01:27:34.780 across youtube yeah it's kind of crazy i'm looking at her numbers they build these women up just to

01:27:41.700 have them trash them on the way out and take all their followers candace and brett both did it

01:27:48.820 i know it's really true if you look at like men in general they tend to be more loyal to the guys

01:27:54.940 who built them up and they're more likely to stick with them versus girls if they see an opportunity

01:27:59.240 to go elsewhere or to make more money elsewhere to build their brand they're out they're just like

01:28:02.960 what am i doing here she not only trashed them on the way out she also trashed the new commentator

01:28:09.400 that took the job she didn't want women yeah because i'm looking at a number two and didn't

01:28:18.200 she just start this channel of hers like when she left baby wire and she's already getting one

01:28:25.240 after about a month she's getting 1.1 million views on a video and then like

01:28:30.640 reagan can barely pass 20 30 000 views on a video well it's even worse because reagan was getting

01:28:38.140 some viewership to her until brett did this whole thing and like trashed her on the way out

01:28:44.460 but it's like it's it's so it's so crazy because men will just do it like even men will defend

01:28:53.980 women doing the bad thing just because they're young and pretty it's like so blackpilling like

01:28:59.180 i'll uh i've been tweeting at this girl named ella who she just like always subtly has her boobs out

01:29:06.000 while she's like got a Jesus cross on and I always just have to point it out and there's like a

01:29:10.980 plethora of men being like what there's no cleavage da da da da and I'm like she's not

01:29:17.520 gonna sleep with any of you like why are you defending like like I don't even think it should

01:29:22.420 be a conversation like when you're wearing a Jesus cross if the boobs are out like the fact

01:29:27.980 that we're even debating this isn't that like a problem I don't really care right but I just think

01:29:34.240 it's, I just don't like the, you're trying to signal purity off of God and putting your boobs.

01:29:40.060 It just rubs me the wrong way. So, but it kind of blackpills me because men will just defend it to

01:29:48.060 the end. And I'm like, and same with the Brett Cooper, when I was talking about it, all the men

01:29:54.500 were so like, there's so many men coming at me saying like, Oh no, she did nothing wrong. She

01:29:59.700 didn't say anything and i'm like i don't know she caused a whole media storm around this they're

01:30:04.820 like no she did i'm like really i don't know but it's just i mean i just think it's funny you know

01:30:12.420 they'll they'll burn stephen crowder to the stake you know but nala you know all the other only fans

01:30:18.820 girls they'll celebrate these girls you know till the end that's so true yeah none of them could

01:30:28.500 there was a million videos like defending the girls but there's never there was barely any

01:30:34.420 videos defending crowder it's so true yeah i wanted i mean okay go ahead yeah i was gonna say

01:30:45.000 like i i think if a guy did the same thing that women did like there's no way they would have

01:30:50.740 like an ex-male porn star who goes to jesus on their channel as someone who they do a sit-down

01:30:55.760 interview whether it's with lila rose or charlie kirk or you know someone on the daily wire they

01:31:00.760 would never do that they see the whole women coming to jesus and reforming their ways as a

01:31:06.500 sort of uh appeal to maybe what they believed when they were really young going to church or

01:31:11.980 what have you that women are the pure of the sex and to acknowledge that that's not true and if

01:31:17.100 anything it's actually the reverse they're actually a lot more cold-blooded uh i think that's not

01:31:21.620 something that they're willing to either advertise to their subscribers or even

01:31:25.560 believe themselves. So they'll fight it till the end.

01:31:30.300 Yeah.

01:31:34.680 Yeah. So do you think that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are going to make it

01:31:39.960 till the end or are you giving them the seven to eight years?

01:31:44.120 If you say make it to the end, you mean like hit $10 billion in net worth?

01:31:48.560 I would say, yeah.

01:31:51.620 do you think they'll divorce oh uh yeah for sure i mean that's going to be an open marriage i think

01:31:58.620 we all know that but it's like on the down low like there's no way travis kelsey is going to

01:32:02.540 confine himself to taylor swift unless there's real money coming in from their sort of marriage

01:32:07.040 right it's why you don't hear like lebron james ever getting into any you know situations with

01:32:12.100 other women because he understands there's a brand to protect and that brand is worth you know more

01:32:17.020 than any piece of ass that's out there as far as

01:32:19.060 yeah and also

01:32:20.160 because here's the thing

01:32:21.560 it's funny because they say oh yeah

01:32:24.580 LeBron and his wife have been together forever

01:32:26.600 or Ice Cube or all these

01:32:28.060 people see yeah but I

01:32:30.840 bet he cheats a lot

01:32:32.260 it's like you're with a celebrity what do you think was going to

01:32:34.820 happen and the best part about

01:32:36.540 LeBron James he probably smashed other women

01:32:38.780 but he has them vetted

01:32:40.300 he didn't want to be an Adam

01:32:42.720 Levine remember Adam Levine

01:32:44.640 messed around with that

01:32:45.720 uh instagram thought that just moved to la and she was 20 and then she aired out all of his um

01:32:52.500 all of his stuff because her friend was gonna blackmail she shared pictures and text messages

01:32:58.040 with her friend from adam levine and the her friend threatened to extort her for fifty thousand

01:33:03.900 dollars so she had to come out with it first because adam levine messed around with a girl

01:33:08.340 that wasn't vetted yeah they're gonna have open marriage but they're gonna be very careful and

01:33:13.860 meticulous about it i would absolutely agree with that like uh if you look at i don't know if you

01:33:18.800 guys ever watched that show nba wives where like at the beginning it was all about like uh ex-nba

01:33:23.880 wives who had cheating husbands like they're not stupid they know these six foot four six foot five

01:33:28.840 guys are you know if hot women are thrown ass their way they know those guys aren't going to

01:33:33.340 turn it down but what they don't like it is when it happens in the papers right so then it embarrasses

01:33:39.400 women and i would say in american culture they really don't like being humiliated and embarrassed

01:33:44.180 and that's when they'll divorce and leave but if it happens on the side and nobody knows about it

01:33:48.540 especially in that girl's inner circle or in the media i think most women who marry celebrities

01:33:53.540 they like they're willing to accept that as long as it doesn't become public so i agree with you

01:33:59.540 doug like i think as long as it's vetted and it's on the down low whether you know he's paying for

01:34:03.340 it in dollars which is probably you know cheaper than him giving away his time you know i think

01:34:08.820 they're perfectly fine with that have you ever dated a woman that dated a celebrity

01:34:13.460 uh have i ever dated a celebrity woman no no a girl that dated a celebrity like i just had we

01:34:20.800 had a caller that said he went on dates with girls and he found that like he asked certain

01:34:25.260 questions and 70 percent of women that were sevens he was going on dates with had um hooked up with

01:34:32.960 a athlete and I'm curious you have had a similar experience I mean I've known girls who are like

01:34:41.060 influencers like low-level influencers like on Instagram who dated celebrities but they won't

01:34:45.920 tell me the specific like person or anything uh and for the most part like they're like the

01:34:52.240 explanation of what she kind of told me was that like they're just more calculating about like who

01:34:56.560 they get involved with and you know many times they'll tell you to like you know sign an NDA if

01:35:01.420 going to be in a relationship and things like that that's kind of what she's told me is that like that

01:35:05.580 group of folks are they operate at a totally different level where their their brand and

01:35:09.580 their image is really important to them when it comes to like any sort of public relationships

01:35:14.220 that they may form i have a question if if travis kelsey gets caught cheating do you think that she

01:35:23.260 for her image that taylor would have to stay you think that she would stay or she would have to

01:35:29.500 believe album yeah that's gonna be the most sold album ever oh yeah that's gonna be like

01:35:37.920 beyonce's lemonade yeah but like i would say it just depends right can travis kelsey brush it off

01:35:45.640 can his publicist can the media that you know his publicist knows just kind of kill that story you

01:35:51.340 know how like when trump got caught with stormy daniels originally you know he paid the national

01:35:56.560 inquire to basically kill that story before it got out publicly at that time so if you can do

01:36:01.340 something like that which is actually true that happens in la a lot like girls will get involved

01:36:05.800 with a celebrity or something like that and then in order to kill it they just kind of pay her off

01:36:10.120 and she kind of goes away uh then i would say you know taylor swift will you know she won't care to

01:36:15.740 be honest like in her mind like it's not an ego thing as long as it doesn't become public but if

01:36:20.300 it becomes public and let's say they don't have a kid together then i think it's going to look bad

01:36:25.000 on her or like it's going to look bad on her if she stays in front of her audience because

01:36:28.540 most women in America which is it's actually different from the east actually like a woman

01:36:33.220 to leave a cheating man in America is really much celebrated versus in the east it's very frowned

01:36:38.060 upon and if anything the media and the public will be saying you need to work it out it needs

01:36:43.020 to be the reverse so I think if she doesn't leave any cheats on her and let's say they don't have a

01:36:47.980 kid together then like it just looks bad on her brand so she's going to be thinking more from a

01:36:52.600 brand standpoint anywhere. She's not going to care if he cheated. Yeah. And that's like the

01:36:58.740 modern marriage is brand building. It's brand building for women's Instagram, social media,

01:37:04.400 and whatever political aspirations women have. Go ahead. There have been times where a woman

01:37:09.540 staying with a man after he cheated has been advantageous. I mean, Hillary Clinton, I remember

01:37:15.480 when that whole thing came out and they're like oh she you know uh she was a president and they

01:37:22.680 were like oh she's you know for the good of the country and the good of her family she's staying

01:37:26.960 so hillary clinton was celebrated for staying with bill well you got to look at it logically

01:37:32.000 right like what is hillary clinton's upside from leaving bill clinton while he's the president of

01:37:37.540 the united states it doesn't make her look good it doesn't make him look good and then if she

01:37:41.540 wants to run for Senate right after that, which is what she did before she ran for president in

01:37:45.280 08. And then in 2016, you know, why would anyone want to vote for Hillary Rodham? You know what I

01:37:51.740 mean? Over Hillary Clinton, the former first lady to Bill Clinton, who's like really popular in

01:37:57.440 democratic circles. So it works to her favor to stay in that relationship. That's why that TV show

01:38:02.400 House of Cards is basically based on the Clintons, right? Like it's a political marriage than anything

01:38:07.620 else it's not a truly lifelong love affair throughout their entire life and i think that's

01:38:12.420 how they view it yeah i i'd agree i agree yeah um i don't know if he's still coming but we're

01:38:25.700 gonna have ho math call in i don't know if there's something we can react to to wait a

01:38:29.700 little longer to see if he wants to come on doug mpa um um let me look in a second you know what

01:38:44.340 i can take the time to say guys like the video subscribe to the stream if you haven't already

01:38:48.100 there's 460 people in here let's get to 100 engagement please oh i know what we could watch

01:38:54.900 the the fight thing oh you're talking about rampage jackson's yeah rampage yeah put in uh

01:39:04.820 rajah jackson r-a-j-a i was about to suggest that but it's kind of really far off topic so

01:39:13.700 i mean we're just killing time you guys you guys can deal with it right

01:39:17.940 you can you can um okay so do you want to give me a background on rampage i know you know who

01:39:29.440 he is better than i do and like the background of the story so yeah i haven't watched mma since

01:39:35.540 2003 since the the pride never die days and so pretty much quitting rampage jackson he has four

01:39:42.220 kids he was he fought in pride first and then he would he was ufc champion because he beat

01:39:48.700 chuck liddell and then he had a falling out with the ufc he's still um his season with

01:39:58.320 rashad evans was still the highest rated season of the ultimate fighter and he fought in bellator

01:40:03.940 and he's kind of half retired he wants to box shannon briggs whatever anyway so his son raja

01:40:10.600 is a amateur mma fighter and what happened was he was streaming because raja walks around he's

01:40:18.880 he's one of those in real life streamers and so he has a cameraman to follow him around he was at

01:40:24.580 an amateur wrestling show and the guy thought that he was a wrestler because he had a camera

01:40:28.720 um following him around so the guy did like a a work where he's like hey man you know acting all

01:40:34.960 tough and stuff and then um so the guy thought he was a wrestler the guy apologized but then

01:40:43.320 what happened still happened okay so we're gonna watch yeah let's react

01:41:04.960 what you don't know me hell no yeah

01:41:09.900 he's not a worker bro yeah

01:41:19.160 no they didn't tell me to fake him they said i could hit him for real

01:41:24.160 yeah they allowed me to hit him for real

01:41:27.520 he said they allowed him to hit him for real

01:41:36.280 it's like worse because he took him from behind you know what i mean like there's something about

01:41:43.480 like if a guy loses a fight but they were squared off you know but it's kind of like

01:41:48.800 pussy to like you don't even he took him from behind

01:42:03.280 oh my accent he's actually hitting him

01:42:08.960 oh my god he keeps going holy oh my god oh my god

01:42:18.800 I'm tired of everybody playing with me.

01:42:48.800 bro so what happened was he was streaming at the time of that altercation and and all the rest of

01:42:56.800 his she was like oh yeah you're a pussy for not doing nothing you're a pussy and you're a pussy

01:43:00.560 and blah blah blah so that's why he went off like that and then he uh did that

01:43:08.720 um oh this is the wrestler who welcome to episode 34 of the scaling live the guy yeah yeah yeah

01:43:17.200 oh he did he's in the hospital um and uh with missing teeth and a fractured uh face

01:43:26.640 oh my gosh yep i hope he goes to jail that was so messed up a podcast a very impromptu

01:43:35.680 last second so how did you end up being involved because from what i understand you weren't part

01:43:41.840 of that match that segment how did you end up out there in the middle of the ring during this match

01:43:46.640 i just got done with my match i was blown up took the heat did the that i get a whisper by somebody

01:43:52.080 hey something it's not right i might need you to go out there and check the scenario this guy's

01:43:57.920 gonna do a spot when does the spot happen oh we'll let you know we'll let you know well you

01:44:01.520 want to let me know but like you're not telling me when the cue is when is the spot supposed to

01:44:06.400 happen you're just gonna let me know just in case all right so i'm stuck waiting for this cue i walk

01:44:10.960 out to somebody with the radio i said hey talk to the back when do you guys want me to go what's

01:44:16.160 happening i was informed about the beer can incident actually shortly before that they told

01:44:20.320 me that they you know made up shook hands hugged it out multiple times so it was going to be fine

01:44:25.360 but they just want to make sure i talked to the person up front with the radio i walked oh so they

01:44:32.080 so they made up after that happened yeah so why would he crash out oh why would he crash out like

01:44:40.000 that for why why what was the back to the ring i see the slam i see the first punch second punch

01:44:47.200 and by then i got people in front of me and i just start moving uh i kind of wish i would have just

01:44:52.960 sprung on like the slam so that's why i mean honestly there's nothing worse than you watch

01:44:58.320 somebody you care about he's a veteran he's he's me and these are people who are supposed to love

01:45:03.760 him and i'm the only one on the outskirts to be told to watch this apparently and then i'm in there

01:45:09.040 and i'm battling i'm doing whatever trying to like work this and i'm telling the guy to calm

01:45:12.800 down and now he's trying to fight me it it's all you know like this so them telling

01:45:18.320 you to watch this and get involved if this was supposed to be an angle it kind of doesn't make

01:45:22.560 any sense because you have nothing to do with their storyline or whatever it seems like they

01:45:27.600 kind of wanted you there just because you're the only one who can shoot which in wrestling means

01:45:31.360 for real fight right it felt like it like how you would use a dog like hey we'll send our to

01:45:37.760 to go do this but the fact that they um told you to watch out and you know be ready and the fact

01:45:43.140 that this had nothing to do with any of the storylines kind of shows that this was premeditated

01:45:46.680 right i think the premeditation part comes on the side of aj mana you brought somebody that was

01:45:51.740 volatile that you knew had issues so real quick that's the friend of raja who brought him to the

01:45:57.060 that's a small calf small ass chicken legs bitch uh with the cowboy hat so wait so he flatlined

01:46:03.900 that means he died right no no he's still alive no i know he's alive now but if he flatlined that

01:46:10.000 means he died right for a little bit yeah so it says following the beating paramedics had to

01:46:16.400 revive smith after he briefly flatlined he was left with serious injuries including broken facial

01:46:22.420 bones holy so he literally he killed him i mean he made it he came back to life but he oh my god

01:46:32.620 i hope he goes to jail oh that's so messed up so are they trying to play it like this was a bit

01:46:40.860 like the wrestling people were in on it is that what their fight whatever you want to call it

01:46:47.440 raja jackson attempted murder right this attempted murder he landed like 20 something punches on him

01:46:52.820 23 23 punches on him you pull him off and then he tried to go at you so that was he trying to

01:46:57.920 continue beating him even further i think the culmination between his dad picking on him and

01:47:02.700 all his daddy issues came out and all the shit that aj gassed up into his head because let me

01:47:06.900 put it this way i don't like roger i think roger's a shit person for what he did but i think aj's a

01:47:11.760 bigger shit person for gassing him up to be in that ring deleting him to ruin his own life

01:47:17.320 to hurt somebody that aj also has a problem with you who's aj that's the dad

01:47:22.520 doug is aj is aj the dad no uh-uh who's aj uh one of the other wrestlers okay

01:47:36.440 okay aj aj mana is is another wrestler they're talking about okay i don't believe in coincidence

01:47:43.940 he was basically trying to put the blood on someone else's hand exactly because he's not

01:47:47.440 going to do it himself you know the few little backyard fights he got in where he got beat the

01:47:52.500 up and then you got somebody that's a real fighter trained by somebody that's one of the greatest of

01:47:56.800 all time and then you had him do your dirty work he ruined two people's lives so what happened um

01:48:02.460 when you got involved with roger why did he want to keep going well i know his chat was like gassing

01:48:07.820 him up too leading up to it which we've talked about another reason why live streaming is toxic

01:48:12.280 yeah just goes to show when you're a man you're in control of your life if you do things for other

01:48:16.600 men you're their bitch you are not a man you're a puppet doug so what happened when you and him

01:48:22.360 squared off i just went in there to stop that guy's pissed at first you know because i was i was kind

01:48:28.720 of in shock i saw stew i saw the punches it felt like slow motion i'm looking around i'm looking

01:48:33.440 at stew's friends staring at me not running him i'm only running it was the one that brought raja

01:48:38.440 to the event after he um sorry what doug aj mana was the one that brought um raja to the event

01:48:48.120 okay most got beat to death people are so chicken that they don't understand violence

01:48:54.360 they don't understand what's going on they don't want to partake in anything they weren't willing

01:48:58.840 to save their friend they would rather worry about their own image their self their master

01:49:03.560 or this and sometimes the world stops. Sometimes the world stops. You could go to the store one

01:49:08.960 day, be shopping for groceries. And if you see an old lady get beat up and robbed, you have to do

01:49:14.160 something. Sometimes the world stops. So these people are sitting in the ring, watching a man

01:49:20.340 get beat to death that they call a friend. The people in the back are telling me, Hey, can you

01:49:24.900 go out there and make sure nothing bad happens? So that got all this responsibility. But at the

01:49:28.620 same time, if I'm AJ Mana, if I'm the people that told me to go out there, if that's the

01:49:33.340 person I brought where I know this whole situation is going on I'd be right at the ring if somebody

01:49:38.660 told me that Ian had the possibility of having a fingernail being put out of place because somebody

01:49:45.240 might be a little off in the ring you think I would take a chance of my friend getting hurt I'd

01:49:50.200 be in the corner of the ring on the very side in the front row you couldn't move me from the

01:49:55.160 spot I'd run the whole jump fuck all of you that's my friend that's my family that's somebody

01:49:59.680 means more to me than anything in the world. I would never let something touch him. I would die

01:50:05.040 before something hurts my family. And all the people that call him family, who the fuck were

01:50:10.780 they? And then when we're in the ring and I'm breaking it up and he shoots a double leg on me,

01:50:15.540 by the way, work a better double leg, you prick. And then I'm telling you to calm down. I'm not

01:50:22.500 even fighting. I'm not even being hostile. Then you're trying to work and get lower, do this,

01:50:27.760 changed positions and I'm over here having to swim with you all this other shit and then you

01:50:31.440 fucking punched me in the fucking eye after we're breaking it up you fucking loser that's why you

01:50:37.040 got fucking headbutt and that's why I fucking punched you and you're fucking lucky I was tired

01:50:40.820 from the match before this what kind of fucking person are you you fucking low-life fucking clown

01:50:46.420 you want fucking clout so you beat up a guy that's fucking half unconscious you punch a guy that's

01:50:51.640 trying to break up a fight and not even trying to fight you I wasn't even trying to fucking hurt you

01:50:55.860 What the f*** is wrong with you?

01:50:57.480 So do you think he wanted to continue beating up Stu?

01:51:00.440 I think he would have killed him.

01:51:01.700 If you didn't stop it, right?

01:51:02.720 I promise you he would have killed him.

01:51:04.440 He would have killed me if he would have got the best of me.

01:51:06.500 If he would have took my legs out from under me like he was trying to,

01:51:09.780 he was going to do the same thing to me that he did to Stu.

01:51:12.300 Clearly, you watch the stream when he's walking away.

01:51:14.300 I'm tired of people f***ing with me.

01:51:15.640 I don't care how many times you've been fingered in your life, bro.

01:51:17.700 I don't give a f***.

01:51:18.680 If you've got a f***ing problem with the f***ing world and the people around you,

01:51:21.720 change the f***ing people around you.

01:51:23.080 Change it up a little bit.

01:51:23.960 Go to therapy.

01:51:24.760 Get some f***ing help.

01:51:25.680 Don't take it out on everybody else.

01:51:27.340 And then you want to train by one of the best fighters to ever f***ing live,

01:51:30.220 your f***ing father.

01:51:31.080 Use his f***ing clout.

01:51:32.160 Use his f***ing knowledge.

01:51:33.460 And then you want to hurt people that don't f***ing train like that?

01:51:35.920 You're a f***ing bully.

01:51:37.580 You're a b***h.

01:51:38.860 F*** you.

01:51:40.520 He's pissed.

01:51:41.580 Holy crap.

01:51:43.580 I hope he goes to jail.

01:51:44.400 Do you think he'll get jail time?

01:51:46.680 Yeah, it's on camera.

01:51:49.720 How bad do you think he'll get?

01:51:51.380 um well the the fact that he hasn't been arrested because they have to investigate

01:51:59.120 means that it's not as blatant as like you know shit he's not going to get attempted you know

01:52:06.520 attempted to lease and attempted murder he might get he if they have to investigate there's going

01:52:11.420 to be a lesser charge if he was going to get a serious charge i think if they would haul them

01:52:16.120 off in handcuffs right there what do you think about um do you think that guy who stabbed the

01:52:21.940 guy is probably gonna go to jail the austin guy in texas oh i didn't see that you didn't see the

01:52:30.920 the track meet oh that guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's cooked he's cooked and the

01:52:38.600 fact that so many black people are rallying forth we see our community we choose the worst people

01:52:44.120 rally behind we rallied behind that kid we rallied behind the the the track girl that

01:52:50.680 bashed that other girl upside the head with a baton we always rally behind the wrong people

01:52:58.680 yeah i'm hoping the guy at the track i'm hoping he gets like like 15 to life

01:53:04.040 no you know well no i think he i hope he gets like 25 to life he's young so maybe he can get

01:53:09.320 paroled when he's 50 or something like that but yeah he's cooked

01:53:16.040 what do you think sean yeah i mean i would agree with doug like uh

01:53:21.080 most communities would not rally behind that like if you show that in other countries they're just

01:53:25.960 like how the hell does america function when they see your social media is kind of filled

01:53:30.520 with like craziness like that you know what i mean yeah wow

01:53:39.320 You know, a topic that I did want to bring up, Pearl, was have you noticed on YouTube, there's so many videos and it kind of gets copied by a lot of content creators talking about how young men are failing, young men are failing, you know, they're not working hard or, you know, this, that and the other.

01:53:54.460 But, like, the appeal is always young men need to do better in the eyes of modern women.

01:54:01.180 Like, no, they're not saying that young men need to do better and only accept traditional young, high quality women.

01:54:10.600 They don't say that whatsoever. And you don't see the reverse narrative either. Right.

01:54:14.480 You don't see young women are failing. They're overweight. They're narcissistic. They're on social media too much.

01:54:20.220 They don't know how to respect men.

01:54:21.640 it's the double standard because remember women are being celebrated for being alone but men

01:54:28.600 you know if you haven't committed to a woman you're somehow less than you know there's a male

01:54:35.000 loneliness epidemic when when stats say that women are what 50 percent of women are going to

01:54:43.260 be single and childless by 2030 but there isn't a female loneliness epidemic here's the thing about

01:54:50.200 that most loners are men all throughout history only 40 of men have reproduced it's it's women

01:54:58.720 who are going to have to adjust to being alone all of the all of the all of the people all of

01:55:04.380 the preppers that live out in the woods all the guys that you live in log cabins you guys remember

01:55:09.960 reading that book walden pond when you were in freaking high school and that guy walden spent

01:55:16.180 seven years by a lake or some crap, men, we stay alone. Women are the ones who are going to have

01:55:23.160 to adjust to not having abilities, not being social with people, not being alone. It's just

01:55:28.460 like the biggest double standard. 74% of women work full or part-time. So 26% of women don't work.

01:55:38.420 There's a crisis amongst male employment and men are not working and society is going to crumble

01:55:45.360 when the male employment rate is at 90 percent guys 90 percent since the 60s male employment

01:55:53.720 has dropped by eight percent and it's a crisis yeah i mean my personal take on it is like i've

01:56:01.320 seen every conservative channel even do very similar sort of verbiage where they'll chastise

01:56:07.020 men but they won't do that for women and i think if the reality is i think anyone who's in the

01:56:12.240 content creation game with, you know, especially on YouTube or any digital standpoint, you need

01:56:17.820 female viewers because those advertisements towards women are worth far more in terms of

01:56:24.200 monetization value than it is towards men. Because men won't buy products simply because it's on

01:56:28.860 advertisement. And number one, and women will more likely to buy, especially when you appeal

01:56:34.560 to their emotions because they're very easily manipulated. But also men are more likely to

01:56:40.000 look at content that is more self-motivational to sort of self-improve so if you look at like

01:56:46.240 marketing they market to men by showing lebron james or you know athletic people or people are

01:56:52.220 doing very exceptional things because that appeals to the male psyche but for women they will have

01:56:57.060 fat models because that appeals to women just being who you are today and not having to change

01:57:02.620 so you start seeing the marketing landscape change you see the advertisement dollars that go

01:57:07.720 especially towards young women are far more valuable than it is a young man oh yeah oh

01:57:12.680 yeah oh my gosh that's why i need to have pandering uh mondays i need to pander once a week okay we

01:57:20.520 have a special guest on um the man i'm so excited he's here um the man the myth the legend we got

01:57:31.160 ho math here to tell us how taylor swift won welcome to the show ho math we are so excited

01:57:38.760 to have you my book here good excited to be here what's your book in the middle plug it i have a

01:57:44.120 i have so many things to plug um yeah i'll just keep it on camera hey good to be here i'm excited

01:57:49.160 to be here too how you doing good so um i want to hear your take on oh yeah how taylor swift

01:57:57.000 one that's what i'm here for um she's old and ran through right so i mean she just got up

01:58:03.880 it's a status thing it's a status thing that's what i really wanted to mostly talk about with

01:58:07.960 regards to that is that whenever you see something like this happen you hear women all over the

01:58:12.520 world say see see you can still get you know age out and end up with with a football player but

01:58:19.800 you can be taylor swift and get old and end up with a football player because status changes

01:58:25.880 everything it's i i don't you know i don't have stats on this or anything but i don't think

01:58:31.320 that it is i think it's way less likely for an average 35 year old woman to uh you know find the

01:58:38.520 man of her dreams than it is for taylor swift to find a uh i don't even know the guy's name

01:58:44.040 a football player it was uh what's his name again travis kelsey travis kelsey yes okay um i think

01:58:51.560 it's when you get to that point of fame the fame is like a uh a bargaining chip that most women

01:58:59.480 don't have and that's something that uh when i was talking to mac and murphy a couple years ago

01:59:05.000 he uh made it a point to point out that people usually end up with someone at their same status

01:59:11.160 level like there's this myth that men will marry the uh the mcdonald's girl if she's 20 and she's

01:59:17.880 pure and everything and men are more like that but they still tend to marry someone from their

01:59:25.400 their socioeconomic bracket someone who makes a similar amount of money and and it's a difficult

01:59:31.400 thing to understand because on the on the one hand the data does support that people tend to

01:59:39.080 uh marry people on their level and on the other hand like women do have a a chance to be younger

01:59:48.760 and outside of the socioeconomic status of somebody and end up with them but when you get

01:59:53.480 up into these higher levels everything changes like i'm in a higher level of status all of a

01:59:58.200 sudden and it's affecting my relationships and that's i'm nowhere near either of these people

02:00:03.240 and it still it changes like it chemically changes the way that things work so how has

02:00:10.300 it changed it for you and is there going to be a chart where you're going to explain this to women

02:00:14.820 this week you got to get all the tiktoks of the women saying that like oh it can happen for you

02:00:23.340 queen yeah i gotta i've gotta dig all those up because i i really do not think that i don't

02:00:28.560 think that that means that if i could impress one thing upon uh women is don't don't think that

02:00:35.200 anyone's going to treat you like you're taylor swift because you're not um but the way that's

02:00:40.720 changing i'm sorry what's that go ahead if we so we have a chart idea from earlier because we're

02:00:48.220 talking about um uh okay they're saying that taylor swift was passed around because she dated

02:00:54.420 john may they have her whole dating history right yeah but there's no way that she could have whored

02:01:00.280 as much as i mean travis kelsey's an nfl football player so like her hoarding doesn't even factor

02:01:07.240 in because i mean he's he's a six foot five chat so so he smashed a bunch of girls in high school

02:01:12.700 college and he's been in in the nfl there's no amount of whoring on taylor swift's in that can

02:01:19.700 even come close to him being a football player and being in the nfl so that actually makes

02:01:27.300 her whoring not even like and yeah and my other point was she whored in a different industry

02:01:38.100 so the whoring is less because he doesn't know the guys you know what i mean like if she dated

02:01:42.580 20 nfl players cooked done yeah yeah 20 musicians he doesn't he'll never meet him

02:01:52.420 he's more alpha than all of her exes put together and i was thinking i was thinking too that like

02:01:59.300 there's got to be a body count thing because it's like one body that he knows is the equivalent of

02:02:06.500 10 he doesn't know yeah well for the for purposes of discomfort sure but i mean isn't it true that

02:02:13.460 that everyone knows who she dated doesn't she have like a list of famous names no totally but

02:02:18.420 i'm saying it would be different like imagine if he knew if you have to run into them yeah yeah and

02:02:22.580 he was playing against them but because they're like people he's never gonna meet i think it

02:02:27.700 matters i think he he would overlook it more yeah i think that i mean yeah if you look at the list

02:02:35.060 to people like joe jonas jake gyllenhaal like travis kelsey could beat three or four of them

02:02:43.140 in a fight at the same time what's he worried about you know well it's not i don't think that

02:02:47.660 you're necessarily worried about people coming back it's just like where have you been who have

02:02:52.480 you been talking to you know it's it's just sort of a feeling for me for me i don't know about you

02:02:57.340 but for me when i'm dating someone and i get to that point i have a drawing about this too i do

02:03:03.720 have charts for everything let's go when we get to the to the you know what has your past been like

02:03:16.840 point let me see if i have a pointer here you've got the let's go yeah you've got the part where

02:03:24.520 you meet and then you typically the guy gets attached faster and men tend to get attached

02:03:28.760 faster and then as the woman gets attached she usually if she actually likes him will pass his

02:03:35.160 level of attachment at some point and that's when she spills all the tea and she goes i used to do

02:03:39.240 this and that and i was a stripper and a threesome in college and all that crap and then that's when

02:03:43.800 we go oh no now i have to find a new one that's great and then we just kind of cool off and she

02:03:53.880 doesn't know why and she's like why are you not texting back as fast and eventually it cools off

02:03:57.960 you go i i've been through this a few times um even recently since i since i started doing this

02:04:04.440 like i had to learn how to talk to women differently given that i have some level of

02:04:10.200 fame now and uh and women will come after me and hide all kinds of crap what did you change i guess

02:04:16.520 you can't say it because then the women will yeah they'll be able to use it they'll be able to use

02:04:21.320 it as a bargaining but i just i go a lot slower than i used to uh i am a lot more um a lot more

02:04:30.600 exclusive i ask a lot more questions i don't give anything away like i used to really if i liked

02:04:35.240 somebody if i liked someone's energy i would go like yeah let's spend time together talk or

02:04:38.680 whatever and now i kind of go like who are you and what is this and you know what exactly how

02:04:44.520 could this affect my life so it's like more like women typically you know you have to be much more

02:04:50.600 defensive um because they will come after it the uh the girl that i dated last year one of my fans

02:04:58.040 a lot of girls reached out to me one of them was actually pretty cool and i wanted to give it a shot

02:05:02.440 and i knew before we started dating that she did want to be famous also and i was like uh-oh but

02:05:09.720 we talked about it and i i explained to her like i can't just smack you in the middle of my brand

02:05:16.360 and say now with girlfriend it's going to tank my brand and then no one will have anything

02:05:21.480 and she said she understood but she sort of kind of like crept in she was kind of trying to yoko

02:05:26.840 ono me a little bit she kept kind of creeping in and saying when's it my turn i was like

02:05:31.000 you have to you have to create something that people want to see first and then i will

02:05:35.720 you know say hey my girlfriend does this um so like that those kind of things you have to

02:05:41.160 are what you have to understand if you have any level of status. It's just, it changes the

02:05:47.720 entire landscape. That's what people don't understand. So any women out there thinking

02:05:51.320 that Taylor Swift getting it at 35 means you're going to, you're not playing the same game.

02:05:58.220 When is she gonna get to the spill the tea point? Where do you think she's dead now?

02:06:04.820 I think she probably did. You mean Taylor Swift?

02:06:07.600 Yeah.

02:06:07.920 I think she, how long have they been dating?

02:06:11.160 two years yeah they probably have gotten to that point that usually happens within a couple of

02:06:15.400 months besides didn't she sing about all the tea didn't she yeah but guys don't really do

02:06:20.280 background checks at all they're like oh she's hot in here the guys don't look into women like

02:06:25.000 yeah yeah that's i'm starting to do that now and it's very difficult but like i don't know

02:06:32.360 anyone who knows anyone they're all reaching out to me i don't leave the house anymore

02:06:36.280 but yeah i don't know it's hard to imagine what he would have done in that

02:06:41.160 he just knows who she is right wait could you go back to the charts here i want to see the

02:06:46.040 other ones could you show them to me sure got a lot of them i'm trying to fill out that whole

02:06:53.560 section with different relationship progressions uh there we go this is the that was the one that

02:07:01.720 we went over the revealed past yeah and then there's the monkey branch where things are going

02:07:07.320 really well the girl gets bored and by the time she had finds a new guy and leaves the we are

02:07:13.480 barely noticing like we're like huh things have been weird for a while and then she just goes

02:07:17.640 yeah i have i switched to the next guy and then we slam into the floor and this is cope here and

02:07:23.000 it takes a while to recover from that it just says cope on the floor yeah and then there's the this

02:07:31.960 This is the situation ship pattern, which is this is this is how men protect themselves.

02:07:40.860 We we stay even like instead of getting all excited and saying, oh, maybe this one is the one that I'm going to keep.

02:07:47.200 Right. We just say, you know, let's just stay right here and not get very connected.

02:07:51.920 And then what happens is one girl. Yeah. Yeah.

02:07:55.120 One girl shows up and then she says, what are we? And you go, we're not in that much.

02:07:59.800 and then she leaves and another one shows up and then she leaves and the first one comes back

02:08:05.000 and they're kind of sometimes both in your life at the same time and sometimes they alternate

02:08:10.120 and there can be more than two at a time but the the total amount of like uh female investment

02:08:17.400 into your life stays pretty even you don't get your heart broken you don't get attached

02:08:22.120 you don't give them too much and they just kind of come back and leave and come back and leave and

02:08:26.360 come i had one girl do this five times how long would she stay each time

02:08:31.960 sometimes it would be like two weeks and sometimes it would be like five months

02:08:37.400 and was it like not the same after the first time it was the same for me that's that's

02:08:45.720 i forgot to say that like they're like they're just not as attracted to her because they know

02:08:49.720 she's bad like doing something yeah i didn't ask i just didn't ask i was like yeah i don't know

02:08:55.000 what you're doing i don't really care you're not like this is not husband wife stuff but she would

02:09:00.360 leave and come back and she would write me a little note saying like i have to make better

02:09:03.320 choices with my life and i'm like that sounds that sounds terrific there are better choices than this

02:09:08.920 i told her right from the beginning like i do we're not going to date and you shouldn't try

02:09:13.240 and then she said um i'm going to take a shower and come over to your apartment i was like jesus

02:09:18.520 what do i do about that what i just say no you're not gonna say no it's very hard to say no they

02:09:25.300 know that you're not you're not get like come on like of course he's gonna say yeah yeah it's very

02:09:31.080 hard to say no to that and then and then about two months later like right about this point

02:09:34.740 she said you know the what are we like oh it just seems like we're wasting time and i said yes

02:09:39.840 we are wasting time we agreed on that two months ago and uh yeah it gets it gets weird out there

02:09:45.940 what was her so what did you find out since like dating um being like a public figure and stuff

02:09:53.100 what's been different for you and then what did you find out during the like talking after the

02:09:58.720 investment stage what uh what's what was the second thing talking after the investment stage

02:10:03.320 what what is information you felt you didn't know up front that made you go oh yeah okay i'll tell

02:10:10.780 one of those things oh my god it's it's absurd so um what's mainly different is a lot of women

02:10:17.020 will message me and they'll say they'll some of them are crazy and they'll say that they're in

02:10:21.180 love with me and they know we're meant to be together even though they haven't seen my face

02:10:25.020 and um and those are like it's nice to get attention but i don't need that kind of attention

02:10:30.380 one of them talked to me for a few months and she seemed perfectly sane and so i like

02:10:34.700 did some face time with her and she immediately she had uh uh bpd like she was on fire it was the

02:10:42.380 worst i've ever seen like she was idealizing me and saying that i was going to be the best thing

02:10:47.180 ever happened to her while she was also telling me that she her boyfriend was in jail and all kinds

02:10:52.860 of horrible mistakes that she was making and i said i don't think this is for me and she started

02:10:56.620 screaming and i had to hang up it was like for three months she seemed normal and then i gave

02:11:01.580 her a chance to talk once and it was bad bad show are you ever afraid that if you facetime a woman

02:11:08.620 that she's gonna screen record it or something like that yes i am afraid of that i do um

02:11:16.620 i wait until i don't really know what measure i'm using but i wait until i feel safe and i've

02:11:23.420 facetimed with a few of them and they've you know they haven't done anything they were i think i'm

02:11:27.660 I'm a good enough judge of character to keep that under wraps.

02:11:33.360 So yeah, I have to be afraid now that women are going to lie more, specifically about

02:11:39.400 how much they like me.

02:11:40.460 Because up until HomeAth, every time I would date a woman, it would be like she either

02:11:46.980 saw my picture on a dating app or she knew me from somewhere in real life or something

02:11:50.860 like that.

02:11:51.320 And there's not very much doubt that they like you when that's the case.

02:11:55.160 but when they're just flooding into your inbox and you have status it's like how much of how much

02:12:02.420 of them liking me is the status and that's true for uh travis and um and taylor as well

02:12:09.100 is it travis kelsey yeah do you think that women can't even tell when they like a guy because of

02:12:14.640 the status yes exactly that's exactly it it's it's on uh on zones i'm trying to point this out

02:12:21.760 it's a it's a pretty fine point it's a difficult point to make i'm such a fan i love these yeah

02:12:26.660 they're very they're very fun um the women the stuff that women say they like is all here

02:12:32.980 they will tell guys like i want flowers and i want you to treat me nice and you know don't

02:12:37.960 cheat on me and everything and that is all the stuff that gets you good guy points that's what

02:12:41.980 women will say they like all the stuff that they actually like that makes them you know sexually

02:12:46.240 interested in you they don't talk about this dotted line here is the the public private line

02:12:52.100 so this stuff is buried so deep in the subconscious that women don't they don't even

02:12:56.900 talk about it so when they say i want a guy who they'll say this stuff and what they mean is i

02:13:02.580 want a an attractive guy who so then men will get confused and they'll do this stuff thinking that

02:13:09.360 it'll make them attractive and it doesn't it just makes them like uh simps basically um

02:13:15.960 i might not be able to stay long today i had a point i was making i can't remember it

02:13:21.940 what were we talking about um the fame like women can't tell if they like oh yes yes yes exactly

02:13:27.860 that was the whole point so yeah they they feel attraction but they don't know which one it is

02:13:33.700 they don't know which which direction it's coming from especially if they're young and not

02:13:38.020 experienced they don't know themselves that's why understanding the subconscious is such a big part

02:13:43.800 of what I do. I talk about consciousness and about subconscious behaviors and wants and needs and the

02:13:49.820 differences between men and women. And women will say things, things will come out of their mouth

02:13:56.060 that they don't know which part of them it's coming from. So yeah, a lot of these girls who

02:14:00.560 reach out to me, they think that they actually like me and I have to keep telling it. It's so

02:14:05.580 hilarious. There's nothing that you can say. I keep telling them, you probably won't like me if

02:14:10.740 we hang out you only know me from my content i am not my content and they go no i'm sure of it

02:14:15.700 so they have a feeling so the feeling is true yeah and i think some women like i think that's

02:14:22.420 why a lot of the nba players divorce like after they're famous yeah because the fame goes away

02:14:27.940 and they're like now he's not a superstar he's not in the middle of the court so they're like

02:14:32.600 do i actually even like this guy yeah i just liked the fact that he had yeah all the power

02:14:37.600 in status i'm gonna i'm gonna miss that actually um just being just a guy with a t-shirt and and

02:14:46.160 girls liking me for that uh i have i have one thing i wanted to ask you whole math so sure

02:14:53.760 because we need your your analytical skills for this so um uh travis kelsey won because he

02:15:04.480 taylor swift isn't half run through like like a lot of the women in the industry she's she's

02:15:12.720 in mid but she's she's attractive enough to be seen seen with in person you know she she's not

02:15:18.080 a bridge troll where he he'd have to hide her under a bridge she has money and status and she

02:15:23.680 seems sensible right and now everyone's talking about and then if they get divorced he gets alimony

02:15:31.440 and if they have kids he gets style support and and the other thing too is they say she's run

02:15:37.760 through but it's like okay what were your girlfriends doing before like this is what's

02:15:41.920 on the menu is a lot of you don't know what your girlfriend was doing before you know right yeah

02:15:47.280 so like a guy like that he's gonna be like they're all run through anyway i might as well get

02:15:51.600 alimony if this goes south yeah so the the it's the case is that she has more than him or what's

02:15:58.000 what was that yeah yeah well because people keep trying to say that she's losing because he makes

02:16:04.020 less money but i would say she's winning because she's by far travis kelsey is the most alpha guy

02:16:12.300 that taylor swift is ever gonna get she gets his genetics she gets a ring she gets an nfl player

02:16:19.960 that a lot of these women can't get so like a lot of women are seeing it from a taylor from a man's

02:16:27.420 point of view based upon money but that's not how she won understand i'm saying yeah yeah yeah yeah

02:16:33.040 that's again like everything changes like chemically at that at that higher level where

02:16:38.840 um like men will think about women in ways that women it's usually goes the other way around when

02:16:45.880 there's that much money and that much fame and status involved i think that's what you're saying

02:16:49.020 yes yeah yeah yeah so i mean i don't know what the numbers look like or anything but if he's

02:16:56.640 gaining something from it that might have that might have some kind of effect on it it was just

02:17:02.400 the main point that i want women to understand is that this doesn't mean that you can wait till 35.

02:17:09.840 well they won't listen yeah i know it's kind of a it's kind of funny to you know every day give

02:17:16.400 them something that they won't listen to but at least people are learning something

02:17:20.000 the chat constantly this is going to usher in a new era of young girls wanting to get married

02:17:24.560 because tay tay is getting married i don't think so though i really don't i think it's going to be

02:17:29.360 a very small percentage i think it'll be a very small percent because they're anyone who wants

02:17:35.200 to get married because taylor swift got married is going to want to marry a football player

02:17:39.840 and they'll get and they'll get divorced when the content comes out like if they get married

02:17:44.400 because of a trend they'll get divorced because of a trend that's what i'm saying you might see

02:17:48.480 a slight uptick in in women who want to get married just to have a wedding but then they

02:17:54.000 divorced the guy after one or two years yeah yeah i also think travis won because if it goes south

02:18:01.760 he can just get hotter girls after yeah now he's taylor swift's axe how many women yeah girls he

02:18:07.920 cheats with are going to be like real baddies yeah that's a pretty good position to be in

02:18:13.360 like taylor swift wasn't good enough for me yeah we were talking about it earlier could you imagine

02:18:19.200 being the girl that gets caught cheating with taylor swift's husband could you imagine

02:18:26.760 that probably you could probably start a career based on that these days oh yeah of course the

02:18:32.000 new monica lewinsky yeah yeah yeah yeah they're doing it for less but wasn't there some rapper

02:18:39.320 girl like who just turned 18 and went on only fans or something oh yeah oh yeah lil tay yeah

02:18:45.780 yeah everything everything is such a mess i don't know how to deal with it

02:18:50.260 it's um yeah there are a lot of ways to get in the public eye with all this stuff

02:18:57.540 you know i think i might be fading a little bit oh i haven't yeah i haven't been here that long

02:19:02.500 but i think maybe i should wrap it up let's take a night okay well thanks for stopping by yeah

02:19:08.180 thank you for having me if you make the chart can you come back and show everybody the tell me what

02:19:13.780 you tell me what you wanted to be on it again the taylor status chart yeah it should be like um

02:19:21.220 all you get the compilation of women talking about it and how it could be them

02:19:26.340 and then you can do um a chart on why it's not gonna be you and why she won

02:19:34.980 just to be like look at do you look like do you weigh the same as taylor swift did

02:19:39.700 were you as cute as her do you have a billion dollars yeah yeah so so so i think i can just

02:19:46.600 hear it in his voice make a chart that describes how taylor smith won and then make a chart of a

02:19:55.800 of an average woman and how far away from her you know what i'm saying i do yeah i have that i'm

02:20:01.800 actually i'm making i'm making a video about that right now i have this this thing that i made called

02:20:08.340 the table where it's like you know how how women will say i am the table as being the table

02:20:14.420 um so i made this exercise packet for you to that for people to you can like evaluate what you

02:20:23.100 actually have to bring to the table and then you put it on the table and then you see what the

02:20:27.600 other person has and you see like is this a reasonable trade or not so i could just use

02:20:31.220 that for it yeah that'd be great yeah exactly yeah all right well it's good yeah no i was just

02:20:38.960 gonna say he sounds tired so i'm gonna let him go i am a little i'm a little worn out but yeah

02:20:43.120 thanks for coming on we're big fans so come on anytime okay all right i'll see you soon bye

02:20:49.060 sorry he sounded tired i didn't want to um man man i can love we love him like i could talk to

02:20:56.940 for like two three four hours man that that guy like not only is he intelligent articulate but

02:21:03.820 he's found such a a niche lane you know what i'm saying it's just so interesting

02:21:12.300 yeah well i think we'll close i was kind of um stalling earlier have you got any final

02:21:18.220 thoughts on that sean welcome back i put you back up yeah i mean i totally agree with homath like

02:21:24.060 you know, the whole status thing is like a force multiplier for men. And the way I know that is

02:21:29.500 because like, you know, I've created a dating app profile and I would always vary the title

02:21:35.080 on the profile, like what you do for a living. And I would notice that like certain titles like

02:21:41.420 vice president or director or physician or things like that would get so many more likes compared

02:21:49.860 to if i just put analyst or janitor or whatever right and honestly personal trainer actually did

02:21:56.740 really well like when i would oh yeah we love trainers yeah russ in the building

02:22:05.700 how are you my friend oh good how are you doing fantastic sorry i missed your stream yesterday

02:22:12.500 i was working super super late oh you're fine i know you're busy i just send him to you and if

02:22:18.340 you can come on we're happy to have you well thanks for having me so um how do you why do

02:22:25.140 you think taylor swift won she's run through she's had 22 ex-boyfriends you know she's 35

02:22:34.100 everyone thought she was done because she's almost 36 but with a a nfl super bowl champ

02:22:41.780 out net giga chad go ahead well well you know there's a couple of things we should probably

02:22:48.980 look at as far as the power dynamics the power dynamics are not in travis kelsey's favor

02:22:55.060 um usually in every other case it's in the man's favor in this case it's in her favor she has more

02:23:01.140 influence she her net worth is probably uh 20 or 30 times his uh but also too uh if you look at

02:23:08.980 Travis Kelsey and his involvement with her, when did he start getting commercials and endorsement

02:23:14.140 deals? When he started dating Taylor Swift. So for him, it's a net positive. For her, here's what

02:23:20.820 she gets when he was talking about, she gets the DNA, but also too, it's also for her, it's a win

02:23:29.100 from the standpoint of just that status symbol and the couple, the really, I'm not going to say

02:23:38.060 good-looking because i i don't think she's a good looking woman at all i think she's actually um

02:23:43.900 she's she's yeah i i don't even know if she rises to the level of mid be honest with you but here's

02:23:50.940 what she's really really good at she is a master of marketing of marketing herself kind of like

02:23:57.420 madonna madonna was never a pretty woman but she and she wasn't even a really good singer but she

02:24:02.060 was a great entertainer either yep yeah yeah she was she was she's probably one of the greatest

02:24:07.020 entertainers of of of our of modern times uh but she couldn't sing and she was ugly and she had a

02:24:13.020 horrible body but look look what look what she did with it and so i think taylor swift is an

02:24:17.660 incredible marketer um you know she is a good singer but um you look at it from from the

02:24:22.940 standpoint of trap like travis kelsey has nothing to lose he's only he's only gained from this so

02:24:28.860 you know yes he's a super bowl winning tight end great tight end um you know obviously as far as

02:24:35.020 as physicality tall strong fast so at the upper echelons of physicality but you know outside of

02:24:43.100 that he's at the tail end of his career all right uh and so typically what happens to football

02:24:49.340 players or other professional athletes at the end of their careers there's only so many tv jobs

02:24:54.480 you know um you know and and travis kelsey you know like where would he go from here well now

02:25:00.040 he's you know mr taylor swift and think about the girls he can cheat with now

02:25:07.840 he's about to be so hot like if he was dating sevens before he's dating nines now women hate

02:25:15.940 other women they're they're gonna like oh i could be i could get at taylor swift yeah

02:25:21.420 we're talking about i mean he's a super bowl winning nfl player the the only way to get more

02:25:28.280 opportunity at getting ass than being an nfl player is to be married to taylor swift could

02:25:35.160 you imagine the amount of ass every single day look you know the the the greatest aphrodisiac

02:25:42.840 for women is a wedding ring on the man's finger uh and and i remember when i got like when i got

02:25:49.400 married obviously i'm divorced now and so you know i kind of feel like um you know one of those first

02:25:53.960 um one of those first slaves that were freed you know you walk outside you walk outside you look

02:26:00.440 up look up you're squinting at the sun like what the hell is that oh this is freedom oh my god uh

02:26:05.480 and so you know shout out to my ex-wife i'm i'm sure she's probably watching this grinding her

02:26:09.800 teeth right now but guess what i'm i'm i'm winning baby so whatever anyway sorry sorry

02:26:14.920 but but yeah women women look women will throw themselves at married guys they talk about

02:26:25.780 pre-selection all the rest of that stuff but um some of it is that women just hate each other

02:26:30.560 and so and like and like when you talk about celebrity i don't know if you remember this

02:26:34.620 pro but i lived in hollywood for a while and i worked in hollywood also too doing the bodyguard

02:26:39.960 thing for a ton of years when i was going back and forth doing private security details

02:26:44.560 and um i had a i had a roommate that was on um on a soap opera i won't go into his name he's still

02:26:50.800 acting today won't put his business out there but when it comes to the hierarchy of celebrities

02:26:57.360 that women throw themselves at people will be surprised it's not the actors it's it's not the

02:27:03.120 now they throw themselves at the football players and the other and basketball players because those

02:27:07.120 guys represent a paycheck but the ones that they really go after are the soap opera guys and so

02:27:13.520 your previous guest was talking about women will fall in love with an idea of a person right um

02:27:19.600 and and and a lot of that you would see like like literally this guy had so many women coming over

02:27:25.520 to the apartment at all hours of the day and night like literally he'd come home from a hollywood

02:27:30.480 party like five or six women and you know i'd be in i'd be in bed because i had to work you know

02:27:35.520 i mean doing my doing my whatever bodyguard job or whatever i was doing at the time and invariably

02:27:40.880 some naked chick was just crawling to bed with me obviously i'd turn on the lights and make sure he

02:27:44.720 wasn't trying to slip a fat chick in there on me um you know because you know guys have kind of

02:27:49.360 that morbid sense of humor where they do that but um but travis kelsey if he played and he has been

02:27:56.000 playing his cards right if you see so here's what he's done um as as far as the hollywood

02:28:03.200 narrative goes all right so one of the commercials he put out there was what for the vaccine right

02:28:09.520 and and a few other things he's put out he he's checking all the hollywood woke left side boxes

02:28:17.420 in order to maximize everything he can while he's with taylor swift is he going to cheat on her at

02:28:23.000 some point uh you know maybe you know um if he's smart he won't because literally she's the ghost

02:28:28.820 that that lays the golden eggs for him um she she could have picked from a lot of different guys

02:28:34.820 even though she is mid she's a very wealthy mid and um you know she's you know she can punch way

02:28:44.100 above her weight you know like like what you guys were talking about the danger is that a lot of

02:28:47.700 women uh will look at this and think that okay i can wait i can do this and i can do that well look

02:28:52.820 honey you're not taylor swift uh you don't have her abilities you don't have her connections you

02:28:57.860 don't have her money and so no you can't do that and so you should cash in your chips uh while

02:29:02.900 their most valuable but i know you know like you said women won't won't listen they won't

02:29:09.300 yeah i agree i agree yeah i i was thinking we had home math on before and i wanted to make a

02:29:15.620 chart on why you're not taylor swift oh my gosh yeah yeah yeah yeah have a comparison chart and

02:29:22.260 say okay this is taylor swift and how she won and then you're all the way over here and this is

02:29:27.780 gonna be your your results over here you have a hundred thousand dollars in student debt she's

02:29:33.380 worth a billion dollars yeah yeah yeah yeah tavis kelsey is worth 20 million taylor swift is worth

02:29:41.060 1.6 billion yeah exactly like it's it's it's not even close and so but but what a lot of people

02:29:47.860 are doing now especially when the there's such a huge wealth disparity is there will be a clause

02:29:53.300 in there an infidelity clause and so if he if he cheats he'll wind up with less money

02:30:00.660 um you know and and and i'm sure they're gonna throw that in there because you know nfl dudes

02:30:05.700 get a lot of women throwing themselves at them and i'm sure being around taylor swift he's around

02:30:11.700 many many more women some of her friends will probably try to come on to him just to test them

02:30:16.580 oh yeah i bet yeah so all those chicks yeah but but yeah so but like when taylor swift

02:30:24.260 winning yes she is a mid but uh because of her wealth and her popularity and fame um she's

02:30:31.700 technically you know because of that because she has so much money she's she's not a four or five

02:30:36.900 she's a seven or an eight or maybe even a nine just because of her money uh how many female

02:30:42.580 billionaires are there um you know maybe what 30 40. yeah and she looks better than oprah

02:30:51.060 well you know oprah that's you know she's a whole different thing um she's got that dude

02:30:55.540 steadman right is that her like a boyfriend yeah okay well you know they've been together for a

02:31:02.260 long time i guess but uh yeah but taylor swift is a genius at marketing like she's she's literally

02:31:08.740 a genius at marketing and um you know i mean because if you look at her like i've seen some

02:31:13.700 pictures of her and i'm sitting there like man i just don't get it you know i literally just don't

02:31:19.700 get it but for hollywood oh man she's she's the um the french toast and travis kesley is gonna

02:31:26.900 ride that train as far as he can and you know shout out to him more power to him would you take

02:31:33.700 that deal uh yeah of course i would yeah any any look look any guy that says he wouldn't

02:31:42.100 is capping for social media any guy that says he wasn't is is is capping i'm look you know me i

02:31:48.660 always shoot straight from the hip and i don't i don't i don't give you any bs yes of course i would

02:31:54.500 um you know i like it it wouldn't be ideal i'm gonna have to use my imagination to get motivated

02:32:00.020 you know for the fun bedroom activity you know what i mean um you were married before you know

02:32:06.180 how to do that yeah you know well look you know what i i do but only to a certain extent like um

02:32:13.860 you know for a while but like like with taylor swift at least look okay at least she's not big

02:32:22.100 you know i don't like big women i like slim athletically built women she's slim kind of

02:32:27.060 on the bony side but that's what you get in hollywood um but you know um you know so it'd

02:32:32.980 be the male version of duty sex do you think that's going to be more common in the future

02:32:40.740 where like men start marrying because it used to be that when men women would marry men for

02:32:46.260 status and money but now that women are getting more money it seems to be starting to reverse

02:32:51.380 Yeah, I've got, you know, I actually know a few women. I actually know a woman I was talking to just the other day. She was yelling at me about some of my posts on X, even though she has two sons, two teenage boy sons, and that we're trying to change the narrative to try to change things for men in general, but, you know, whatever.

02:33:11.840 and um she she got divorced because she wasn't happy as the usual and she actually admitted to

02:33:18.480 marrying her husband and she didn't love him she married him because she thought he'd make a good

02:33:22.420 husband and then she pulled the rug off me and well she makes significantly more money than he

02:33:27.520 did and so she got hit with alimony and she was outraged like she was outraged and i was like

02:33:33.920 well i said look i said the law works i said this is why the law is the way it is and she said but

02:33:39.080 He's a man. He shouldn't. But, you know, I think, yes, that probably will happen as opportunities aren't really, you know, you know, there's more and more opportunities for women to make money and become very wealthy.

02:33:54.180 there's so many different ways to become wealthy nowadays and so um you know there are guys out

02:34:00.500 there who will do that however here's here's here's the downside how many guys are going to

02:34:05.140 be able to stomach being in a submissive position in their marriage some guys can there are guys out

02:34:12.100 there that are submissive guys uh but women might take those guys for a while and and i know a lot

02:34:19.380 of powerful a lot of wealthy women and the the guys they marry tend to be these guys that will

02:34:25.620 play second fiddle um but they don't really respect these guys and they usually wind up um

02:34:35.220 cheating on them with more dominant guys so you know do you think that'll happen to taylor swift

02:34:43.540 um you know look here's the thing taylor swift has the power in that in that um that relationship

02:34:50.380 she is the alpha in that relationship travis kelsey is not the alpha in that relationship

02:34:55.220 uh he's he's an alpha male from this position of his physicality uh and maybe um amongst his

02:35:02.000 teammates obviously but he's writing her coattails not the other way if i could just say one thing so

02:35:08.820 um travis kelsey's exes were not white yeah and so i guarantee you i can guarantee you that

02:35:18.860 there ain't nothing that can come from taylor swift that can compare to being with his last

02:35:24.660 three girlfriends let me tell you they probably not yeah probably not but but but but that will

02:35:29.460 ultimately be his undoing when he's going to look at taylor swift on all four and see nothing but

02:35:34.620 that right angle and those bony hips and flat backside when he's used to dating latinas and

02:35:41.740 black women he's he look he's going to be looking somewhere at some point a man wants peace though

02:35:48.060 man and i'm telling you taylor swift will probably be getting more peace than than i i i i don't know

02:35:55.260 i i have to disagree with that some of the stuff that's been coming out with the blake lively case

02:36:00.620 um and um and and this that other dude i forgot the guy's name uh that whole lawsuit that's going

02:36:07.260 on um yeah baldini uh taylor swift is not a nice woman but here's the thing and i wouldn't expect

02:36:14.860 her to be you don't make that much money by being nice you don't you make that much money by being

02:36:22.460 ruthless calculating and business-like and so you know her her marrying travis kelsey is

02:36:30.940 it's a calculated move and it's a good move for her but but it's a better situation for him

02:36:36.220 especially from the financial and the um the the opportunity standpoint who knows at some

02:36:42.220 point we might see him in a movie who knows awesome he deserves it you know he's taking

02:36:48.140 he's risking all this like an album if this goes south so he deserves a movie

02:36:53.500 think about this once he gets married he'll be worth a billion dollars

02:36:59.740 yeah yeah yeah and he'll have access to a whole bunch of people he would not have like he's he's

02:37:04.860 gotten access to a lot of people he wouldn't have had access to before if if you link up with

02:37:10.140 somebody of her stature um you automatically go to the top of everybody's list because they'll

02:37:17.100 do things for you just because they want to get on her good side yeah yeah i agree thanks so much

02:37:23.340 for calling in russ yes ma'am thank you for having me on we appreciate it man thanks for coming on

02:37:29.260 man come on anytime bro anytime see you guys next time all right um that was awesome we love having

02:37:41.260 him on thanks for coming on too sean absolutely have a good one buddy yeah

02:37:51.260 yeah um taylor swift we do wish you well i did think you would marry him so um but ladies

02:37:59.580 you're not taylor swift you're not um if you got a bunch of student debt i would just you know

02:38:05.980 be thankful anybody says yes yep you know you all a bunch of you have bastard kids

02:38:14.180 you know you uh student loan debt cars you can't afford housing mortgages you're upside down on

02:38:21.920 you're not taylor swift oh yeah uh sean put in the chat travis kelsey got a million insta

02:38:27.540 followers just two weeks after they went public

02:38:30.060 all right well thanks for the contribution doug we appreciate you as always

02:38:37.980 yep always good to be here

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Pearl - August 27, 2025

Average Women Will Only Settle For Famous Men

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