Pearl - July 23, 2026
Clavicular Joins Pearl Daily Part 2
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1 hour and 9 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Pearl Daily, we continue our conversation with the man, the myth, and the legend, Clavic. Clav has been in the dating game for a long time and has seen a ton of experience in the world of the dating scene.
Transcript
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all right what is up guys uh welcome to another episode of pearl daily here at the audacity
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network um today we have a special guest we're continuing um part two from yesterday we have
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the man the myth the legend welcome to the show clavicular thanks for having me how are you today
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uh i'm doing good i feel bad about yesterday the fire alarm in my building was uh was going
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off all day yeah i'm surprised you're in a pretty nice like penthouse there and they're having
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problems with that yeah yeah they always run tests it's quite annoying but um anyway happy
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to be here yeah um i first wanted to say thank you i've reacted to so much of your stuff this year
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of you like taking um guys girlfriends and stuff and it's done so well on the channel um so you've
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given us a ton of stuff to react to here um yeah i mean i don't i don't obviously cherish the fact
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that that happens quite consistently but you know in today's dating market you see this stuff happen
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all the time there was a famous incident of this that occurred a few days ago with a guy uh who
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has been dating his girlfriend for five years or something like that and then um a famous soccer
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player dm'd her and she left him immediately um you know so it's a very brutal world um i don't
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i don't wish that kind of stuff on my worst enemy um but it does happen and anytime i'm aware of of
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the fact that you know a girl is openly cheating on her boyfriend i'm always like you know kicking
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the girl out or whatever it just usually works out that i find out after the fact uh and it becomes a
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story on twitter what's that like for you because i've seen guys literally like beg you
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not to take their girl like what's that what's that like in that situation yeah so that was one
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really viral clip of a guy saying like you know please clav you know you're a good guy whatever
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um and it's not necessarily about being a good guy in that moment it's really about you know being
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the figure that someone needed um to encounter right because that relationship was over as soon
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as as the girl made the decision uh to go right and even if you know he begged me even if i agreed
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i said hey listen uh no no worries man uh and then the girl goes back to him there's no reason for
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that it's cooked so um what you need to do is realize that a lot of the times someone is actually
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doing you a favor, uh, kind of exposing, uh, this behavior before it's too late, right? You want to
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find out about a potential partner of yours before you make, uh, any drastic decisions like getting
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married or pursuing a super long-term relationship. So the quicker on the timeline, these things get
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exposed to you, the better, right? So, uh, I see guys all the time crashing out on their girlfriend,
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like stop texting this dude whatever it's like once that kind of behavior starts to take place
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it's over yeah because if it wasn't you it would just be someone else right yeah no exactly maybe
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it wouldn't have happened that day but you know a few days from now a week from now whatever
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yeah so was there a moment for you that like when did you realize that looks were so important in
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the dating market um was that because you are a little bit unique because you found this stuff
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you were like 14 13 um that's when i started my pharmacology journey and it was more so from a
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bodybuilding perspective um i was big into to the gym and you know old school bodybuilding
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all those types of forums and it slowly over those next uh you know years transitioned into something
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a lot more unique uh which is looks maxing and i would say a lot of the observations that i made
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actually came from working in nightlife as a security guard it's one of those jobs where um
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you know you're sober you're kind of just standing there people watching uh so you know i'm just
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sitting there making all these observations and this is sort of what allowed me to to form the
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conclusions that i have really so you actually were into the looks maxing and the bodybuilding
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before um like it actually had nothing to do like romantically there wasn't like you watched i don't
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know something in school like some guy in school take your girl or i don't know i was just wondering
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if there was a canon event like that no no no canon event like that it was much more objective
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um than that and simply all that happened was you read all of these different studies uh and these
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different you know facts about that looks do matter right this is an objective reality
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people are getting selected uh in interview processes just because they're good looking
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over more qualified applicants right um so once you kind of make those observations and come
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across these facts it's undeniable that that looks are important and you would be a fool almost is
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how i thought about it to not prioritize your looks and do you ever think there's somebody
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that's too cooked to even try what's that do you ever think there's people that are too cooked to
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even try um absolutely um but like you know there's no beating around the bush genetics are real and
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if you think that you're going to go from uh 10th or 20th percentile to becoming um like a psl god
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runway model um then that's just pure delusion but does that mean that you shouldn't look max
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is more so is i don't know if that's the question that you're asking uh no that's that doesn't mean
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you shouldn't look max but it's important to have expectations in your head that this is an unfair
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game right and and life is extremely unfair it's a brutal reality to face that you know you could
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do the exact same things as someone or you could do 10 times the work and you might not get the
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same results that they have uh simply because of the genetics bill and um you know but i think
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everyone can really improve about 20 to 40 percentiles if they're starting looks maxing
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from an earlier age do all the right things and that's really going to be like night and day
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difference regardless of where your starting place is really so you think you can go from a 20 to 40
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difference um yeah easily okay um so what would be your first um steps in doing that i guess if
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if you're starting from scratch um so the first thing would be you you need to be extremely lean
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to actually analyze what is wrong with your face in a lot of cases because uh there's a lot of
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important ratios that need to be you know analyzed to see what what's the problem here for example
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your bisagomatic to bigonial ratio right your jaw is supposed to be about 90 of the width
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of your cheekbones but if you're super overweight and high body fat that ratio might seem out of
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ideal where you're thinking oh i need to uh you know get get gonial uh implants or i need to get
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um cheekbone implants when simply getting lean might might fix things all together so you know
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and that's going to be about 70 of what you could actually accomplish in terms of lux maxing is
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being super chiseled being super angular uh in a country that is typically obese it's a huge halo
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to have. What body fat percentage do you recommend men and women get to? Um, I would say between 10
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to 12% is, is really going to be the ideal. I would say right now I'm, I'm probably around
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12 to 13% myself. So I could, I could do a little bit more lean maxing myself. Um, but the issue
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that you run into, if you're trying to do this as a natural is you, you start to really lose a lot
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of your muscle mass um because you get a lot of muscle wasting from glp1s uh if you're doing those
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super high deficits trying to get lean uh in a quick amount of you know short time frame um those
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things are really going to diminish your overall size and presence can you explain um the i think
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you said decile scale and how people rate wrong yeah so um people typically assume on the decile
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scale, which means, you know, you're rating out of 10, that seven is the average. I'm not sure
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really why this happens. I think it's just a societal thing. So if a girl ever rates you a
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seven out of 10, they think you're average looking at best. And that's kind of how you read it when
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a five out of 10 would be an average, right? And that just is a lot more sensible, but no one
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really rates like this. So sometimes you'll, you'll tell a girl or you'll tell someone who
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ask you for a rating um that they're six out of ten that they might be like oh my god simply
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because they're not used to these numbers being thrown around at them um but really you've given
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them a compliment by saying they're above average so um it's just a lack of understanding of of
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aesthetics would you be able to give me some examples of like of a four a five a six um maybe
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some ones in media that we would um yeah i i think i did this for for one one of these streams i
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forget off the top of my head um it's a little bit more difficult usually when i whenever i do these
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interviews i'll typically like flash faces on the screen in pop culture but um rating isn't
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something that i i like to go hugely into but people are obsessed with it regardless
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and do you count youth in the scale like so sometimes when yeah sometimes when i rate women
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um because i used to do casting like i would give them an extra point if they were younger
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like i would always say like a 20 year old five is different than a 30 year old five
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do you agree with that or disagree yeah go ahead your youth indicators um you know the amount of
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collagen in your face very important to aesthetics right so um it youth absolutely plays a role
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um okay so the university of michigan defines looks maxing as the practice of maximizing
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uh your physical appearance through intentional daily daily habits and routines would you agree
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with that definition um i would and could you talk a little bit more about peptides skin care
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fitness grooming um yeah so peptides are um pretty misunderstood and people just assume
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that they have to be doing peptides um they would say well what what peptide should i take
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or what peptides do i need uh it's a it's a very diverse genre right so um give me a couple
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peptides it's like you know you have all these different things that that have all these different
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mechanisms and people will just you know go on these peptide websites and throw a bunch of
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shit into their shopping cart and and spam them without really knowing why um but i would say that
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for example like the melanotan tanning peptides are really going to be beneficial for a lot of
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phenotypes but you know if you're taking melanotan 2 and you're already uh you know pretty high on
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the melanin axes it might not be so necessary um so there's just a lot of nuance to consider
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or everyone for some reason thinks that they have to be on a glp1 when it's not true if you're already
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someone with a super high metabolism you're already skinny to begin with taking that
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rabbit trutide is going to just make you dependent which isn't really too necessary
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do you recommend most people take it if they're overweight like what body fat percentage would
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you tell people to start taking it at um i think there's just a lot more nuance to it than that
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right um where i couldn't just give you a body fat percentage but yeah because someone could
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be intentionally in a caloric surplus or something like that but most cases i would i would recommend
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retta it's it's more rare that i would than not and that's a very mainstream opinion because
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retta has so many health benefits this isn't something that you're trading off you know one
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one measure of your health for another um you're getting a lot of benefits to your lipid profile
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for example uh for your liver health um so it really is something that's super well researched
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we can see that with the eli and lily phase two trials and a lot of doctors are very pro retta
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what do you think about the people saying that there's going to be health effects down the line
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Um, I would say that they need to take a closer look at the literature and talk to their doctor,
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because I don't really think in a lot of cases, a lot of health professionals would agree with
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them. Okay. So what peptides would you recommend? Um, once again, that's, that's just a,
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a misunderstood, a total misunderstanding of what peptides are really just, it's totally
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case dependent so it's just such a broad genre that you couldn't just recommend a couple peptides
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when the use case might not be applicable to someone at all okay
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um so you think fitness is the number one thing people can do um and then what about skin care
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yeah um your skin quality how collagenic your skin is also very important uh because having
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clear skin that's a health indicator right people with acne are perceived a lot worse because of of
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the poor health indicator typically means that they have some sort of skin disease or improper
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gut function so a lot of things will be subconsciously perceived and in terms of
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skin care a lot of people will go with all these cope topicals or cope over-the-counter products
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they'll have a million step skincare routine but if your acne is bad enough a lot of the times
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you're going to need to go to a dermatologist and do a course of isotretinoin because if you're
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using a topical like tretinoin you're increasing your skin cell turnover without a way to fix
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things mechanistically and systemic drugs are always going to be better than topicals
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systemic drugs are better than topicals could you explain that like what that means
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So when you're using a topical face cream or a topical gel, for example, it's not bioavailable
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as much transdermally, right? So for example, there's testosterone gels that people will use
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on their arms and they absorb through the skin, but the bioavailability is a lot worse than if
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to inject it intramuscularly. So you inject it? I'm just giving one example of systemic versus
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topical. Okay. But orally ingesting things is also better. And how do you feel about Botox,
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fillers? I'm very anti-filler. Filler is not meant to replicate bone. It's meant to replicate
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soft tissue and you could see a lot of people trying to make their jaws wider make their
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cheekbones wider with filler when it was never the intended use case and botox i would say i'm
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a huge fan of but it's mainly intended to be used as a preventative anti-aging measure rather than
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fix already accumulated already formated wrinkles so if you're using it from an early age kind of
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paralyzing a lot of those facial muscles from moving uh the results will be a lot more prolific
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and why do you have some girls that look like really weird after they've done it for a while
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but some girls don't um is that just the injector yeah uh the amount the injector the the placements
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of the injections um because a lot of girls will look like they have no emotion in their face even
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that when they're reacting if their eyebrows are moving it's kind of like uncanny um you know and
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a lot of actors in this day and age are often like expressionless sometimes and that's kind
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of caused by botox overuse yeah because i think sydney sweeney like went viral recently because
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her face moved and it's like becoming more rare on tv so is it just is it just a trade-off you're
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going to get um yeah no absolutely um you're trading sort of your facial um like animations
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almost for uh aging and lack of wrinkles um why does society and women shame men um that
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have looks maxed when women do it all the time um i would say it's just kind of a new phenomenon
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and people are really trying to wrap their heads around whether it has some sort of political
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affiliation to it um and they're they're sort of just using uh any insult that comes to mind
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because they're not able to properly digest uh what the movement is and what i'm actually
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talking about so people will say oh you know that's gay that's that's this that's that and
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it's like well how is a gay if looks maxing is going to help you get more girls it doesn't
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doesn't even make sense. Uh, so it's just people throwing around schoolyard insults.
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Yeah. Cause you get a lot of flack because, um, and I don't really understand why,
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because a lot of the stuff you're doing, it's very normal for women to do.
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Like it's not, and women go to way bigger extremes than you are. And you're, I would say the most,
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um, extreme like looks max or I've seen. Um, well, I mean, you kind of said it right there.
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it's typically stuff that that women have have done and um that's sort of the societal norm
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right so you're breaking a norm entirely by telling people if you're a male and you're
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covered in acne and blemishes uh it's okay and it's actually quite sensible for you to
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conceal her as well yeah yeah like and it's crazy because you see men shaming it the most i would
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say sometimes even more than women do you agree with that or no like i would say so yeah because
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a lot of people are like to cope uh and live in this fantasy land in their head where looks don't
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matter and you know all i have to do is be confident and learn like game and all this shit
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uh because that's a lot easier thing to accept than uh to do the looks maxes that i talk about
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right so it's really just about them being lazy okay you talk about copes a lot what do you think
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are the five like biggest copes that people use five biggest copes that people use yeah that um
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person a who's a six out of ten facially and person b who's an eight out of ten facially
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will have the exact same results if they uh say the exact same things that's often something that
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people believe. And it's just completely not true. Another code people will give is they'll say
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like a top percentile male actor who's bald as an example for why hair is not that important.
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So they'll say, oh, well, Jeremy Meeks looks good and he's bald. Therefore, hair doesn't matter
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when it's like, OK, well, you're not Jeremy Meeks. So that's another code people will give
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is showing a good looking person with a facial phalo and then saying it's the norm. But
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you know, the other cope would be just if you improve your personality without working on
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any other metric, your life will change drastically. And that's not me saying
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personality and charisma don't matter quite a bit because they do. And I try to work on being
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more charismatic being more sociable every single day but uh it's a lot less of a needle mover than
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looks maxing than status maxing things like that how many points would you say personality gives
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a guy um well we would kind of need to step back and create a some sort of a pie chart system um
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So that's, that's like very complex to, to analyze.
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You need to create like, you could just keep going.
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Cope number four would be topical skincare products.
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I would say, um, for severe acne, it's just not going to work.
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and then let's see cope number five i would say is uh modern street wear and the way that
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that these zoomers dress it's ridiculous these baggy shirts and um supreme and stupid shit like
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that it just makes you look like a clown yeah like the sneakers you mean also all of it man
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all of it really why do you think it's so common among zoomers because that's what their favorite
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social media influencers are doing right because people throw around the world influencer all the
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time and it'll be some video gamer or guy who's got no um real societal like beliefs but that's
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not the influence the influence is what they're doing um you know if they dress a certain way and
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someone's a fan of them for playing uh for playing rainbow six siege then um they're going to be
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influenced so it really does matter and that's why i would say that my influence and kind of
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like my come up on social media is like a never seen before phenomenon because like i've influenced
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you know the culture uh how people speak um you know how people are dressing and it's just a much
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bigger thing and never seen before what's that like to have that at 20 i mean i can't even imagine
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being 20 years old and influencing the entire culture how people speak um i mean it just is
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something that kind of makes sense because like all these words like the first time i heard you
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know or started started using them i was like wow you know that's really got a certain ring to it so
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um that people are going to have the same reaction obviously yeah but i just mean blowing up so fast
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what's that been like how have your parents taken it your friends like did they always
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kind of expect this from you um well i mean i don't really have any friends but um my parents
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always knew i was going to be a little crazy so i would say it's not the most unexpected thing ever
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I've always been doing a lot of weird, stupid shit when I was growing up, so it's just the
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next phase of my life. How would you compare height versus face card for men?
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I would say that the face is the most important thing, and there's a common saying on looks,
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Max, it's all about the face, and that's completely true. If you're someone who is
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you know six foot three with a horrible face a guy who's got a six bsl face who's maybe only
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five ten is going to mog you so you say women would pick the five ten guy over the six me and
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my co-host used to argue about that because that's what i said too so yeah doug mpa he might come
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later but i'm like doug mpa yes the looks maxer said i'm right face is law but that doesn't mean
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that height's not important. Yeah. Well, cause I'm pretty tall and I played volleyball overseas.
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Um, so I know a lot of tall women, um, and most of them obviously dated guys taller,
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but I've noticed that sometimes they'll go shorter if they're super tall and the guy's a good face
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guard. Yeah. I mean, that's just, uh, considering your offspring, right? So that's going to give
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the biggest halo so some of the older men i've interviewed say that having a woman in your life
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costs you one way or another would you say that's true because you're around a lot of beautiful
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women all the time and i'm sure it costs you time working self-improving your craft
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yeah it's one of the biggest time wasters uh to have women around and one of the the biggest
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you know drains to your your energy and your productivity um when you're in the important
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developmental phase in your life right that's not to say that um you shouldn't eventually be
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in a point where relationships are really important to you uh and you know hanging around
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women is something that you could get away with but in these super formative years where
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you're establishing your career and doing all these things uh it is likely a mistake to to get
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involved with that and i you know i do the same thing so i'm obviously hypocritical there but
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i can understand it what's it been like um dating in miami for you with a bunch of being as famous
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as you are i've never dated a girl from miami so i don't know it's i i don't really like dating
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in miami like that when people talk about that that doesn't really make sense to me
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you know because they all fly and you're saying
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typically no one's really from from miami it's a lot of vacationers
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so can so can you talk about the interviews you've walked off of
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oh god which one my co-host came um this is doug mpa by the way he's my co-host
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i just want to say can we normalize walking off of interviews honestly because a person like you
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your star is rising your time is important and and all these people try to ambush you i i hope
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that what you're doing becomes a normal trend because the one thing that you can't get back
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is time let's normalize walking off of interviews where people are wasting your time um i would say
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let's not normalize it because people are just going to uh try to clip farm and you know an
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interviewer who is being completely genuine um might be giving a completely straight uh and on
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the arrow thing but people see me doing it and they might just be like oh i'm gonna be like clav
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and blow up in this guy's face when there's really no reason for that so i would say that um i'm i'm
00:27:32.700
quite genuine um when i go in with my intentions so anytime i've ever walked off of an interview
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it's because of of the person doing some shady shit right so um like that that would just become
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a viral trend for people to force and kind of clip farm so you know i've even influenced people like
00:27:53.500
like donald trump he kind of copied my walking off the interview um a couple times so um it's
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it's going it's going big yeah but the guys that do it to you are in such bad faith like i saw the
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one in israel that was terrible we need more people to walk off like that because they do that
00:28:12.240
to you like you'll you'll come on to an interview in good faith and they'll just like do all these
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questions that you didn't ask for you know yeah i've never done an interview in bad faith um
00:28:24.880
whatsoever i would say that the only time i've even kind of went close to that is the first
00:28:31.440
piers morgan interview i knew it was going to be hostile um so i was sort of like prepared with
00:28:38.720
a little bit of opposition research but uh i've never done that before i've never looked into
00:28:44.160
a reporter before uh doing an interview i've never really had too much uh of a question to
00:28:51.280
their political beliefs because it just doesn't matter yeah why do you think they keep trying to
00:28:57.120
make you political when you keep saying you're not um it's just a misunderstanding of of a new
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thing and like when something is becoming um so big amongst generation z and really far beyond
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that it extends um to almost every generation like a lot of people are panicking they're saying
00:29:18.880
you know is this uh an okay belief for uh you know the media to push uh is this dangerous is
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this harmful so they're just kind of you know try to keep answering these questions uh when
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i've made it extremely clear that looks maxing is self-improvement and and really nothing further
00:29:37.920
yeah oh you know what i wanted to ask you about what do you think about palette expansion is that
00:29:43.200
something you recommend for most people that have like deformed i've seen the the pictures of the
00:29:49.760
twins where the one had an expanded palette and one didn't you know what i'm talking about you
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have to yeah yeah so so palette expanders um you know all those type of orthodontic appliances
00:30:01.600
are really good um but there's a little bit of nuance that you have to understand that what's
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possible, uh, is going to, to differ drastically based on, uh, how far into your development you
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are. Um, and you know, the other part problem with pallet expanders is people don't realize it's not
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a one and done thing. You're going to expand your pallet and then there's going to be huge gap in
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your front teeth. Uh, and you're going to require braces after the fact. It's a very long process.
00:30:28.260
Really? Yeah. I've thought about doing it cause I have TMJ. I was curious. I don't know. It's
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that's that's kind of the same conclusion i came to is it was too long
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um well it doesn't really look like your palette is is that narrow quite honestly
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you have your third molar still i'm sorry sometimes you use very big words and i don't
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know what they mean um no i don't um no i got those out but i got them out when i was older
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but i've always had like um like it clicks and it like hurts sometimes so i've thought about doing
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that but it seems honestly when i go into a doctor's office and there's too many women i
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assume it's a waste of money and there's just been too many um because i find that if men buy things
00:31:39.020
they like do research and usually like we just tend to spend our money on nothing so i don't know
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i'm not saying that's the case for all of the palette expansion but it's made me kind of
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of hesitant for the ones that i've liked like that i don't know um so you're saying like the
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clientele or yeah well it's just it's so expensive and i'm not sure if it'll work
00:32:04.300
so interesting yeah what does keeping your wisdom teeth mean because um i'm older than both of you
00:32:14.180
i come from a generation where a lot of people were just told to get their wisdom teeth pulled
00:32:18.740
out and they just did it. I still have mine, but I see that less and less now. But if there was a
00:32:24.840
time where it was just automatic, pull your wisdom teeth out, what does keeping your third moles mean?
00:32:30.480
Well, I mean, do you have enough space in your dental arch to account for them, right? And
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a lot of people in this generation don't have proper jaw development. So pulling the wisdom
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teeth is going to be a requirement or else you're going to get severe dental crowding.
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I didn't have enough space in my jaw to keep my third molar, so I got them removed.
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Where does that trend come from where not a lot of people have enough of a developed jaw to keep their wisdom to you?
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Just bad breathing habits, different things in the modern world that influence poor development.
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I want to get back to looks maxing as a trend because Pearl's platform is about helping men
00:33:19.140
and well you see the blowback in general about anything that helps men nowadays and I think
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personally it's not looks maxing, it's the fact that men are looks maxing that people have a
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a problem with right um uh do you see that double standard and how do you think that that affects
00:33:39.380
the pushback that you get that that it's the fact that men are younger men are focused on
00:33:46.000
looks maxing now well i would say it's a really positive thing because you know once you get past
00:33:52.320
that uh brutal and super harsh reality that that looks matter and if you're someone who's not good
00:33:58.060
looking, it's hard to accept. Then you begin your enlightenment phase and your self-improvement
00:34:04.020
phase, which is going to influence how people perceive you, how successful you are in your
00:34:10.820
career, and all these different positives. So it really is a positive thing. And I wouldn't say
00:34:17.440
it's necessarily a trend. This isn't something that is just going to be a popular discussion
00:34:23.820
for the next you know 12 to 24 months this is uh a new uh a new means entirely that's that's
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permanent when i first heard of looks maxing my thought process was like this women in the past
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went from men that had qualities they quote unquote needed whatever that means you know
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traditional provision protection and stuff but with current modern dating i call it the want
00:34:52.280
economy where people go for more what they want than what they need especially women now and
00:34:58.260
looks maxing is just addressing the want economy of modern women what do you think about that
00:35:04.140
addressing the want to come well looks maxing is not as narrow focused as uh the dating market
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right i would say that's one of the the bigger things but um yeah women obviously want those
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top percentile people and it's a bit of a hypergamous dating market where you know only the
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top 10 to 20 percent of people will succeed but um even if dating was completely taken out of the
00:35:30.260
equation um it really is just about how people treat you in the smallest form of of uh interaction
00:35:38.260
throughout the day right some sometimes people giving you a you know a weird glance uh just
00:35:44.760
because you look at them in the elevator if you're super unattractive that's something that's really
00:35:49.820
going to damage your confidence and your overall well-being and it's negative reinforcement which
00:35:55.520
is the problem yeah because we're still in the days with people i feel like especially gen z
00:36:03.400
they haven't been taught the importance of things like a first impression or carrying yourself in
00:36:09.780
in a professional way. I read this story about how more people, especially in social media,
00:36:16.660
they'll dress for social media, but in their personal lives, they'll be wearing Crocs and
00:36:21.720
sweats, except for when they have to post themselves on social media. So I feel like
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a lot of people haven't been taught exactly what you're talking about, what looks back
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to me about making a good first impression for carrying yourself well, because that can
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count for points down in the future um i mean i wouldn't necessarily say that they just dress for
00:36:42.140
social media because um you know a lot of the things that people post on social media the
00:36:46.820
outfits that you see are are also really uh really terrible i mean the effort is certainly there but
00:36:55.820
it's just a lack of understanding about you know what clothes actually make you look like you have
00:37:02.120
a level of maturity right what i know you went into it with the influencer closing but
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clothing but what are some absolute universal no-nos when it comes to let's say you're to have
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a guy who who got a degree in something worth it and was about to enter the the workforce
00:37:22.760
just chose a corporate path what are some absolute no-nos you're like dude don't ever wear this what
00:37:31.240
I would say non-tailored suits are pretty jester.
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I would say, you know, you have, well, I mean, typically in corporate world,
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they're going to give you pretty clear requirements on what you need to wear.
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But I would say just in overall life, no, like obnoxiously branded clothes,
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like you know the louis vuitton logo like going all across your your shirt a thousand times is
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is just a little bit silly to me um and you know a complete waste of money too
00:38:09.160
i've always hoped that one day we can get press that whole blazing name brand all over everything
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trend but we're still in it years later is peter is this a juice bird question
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Oh, I was talking about how the designer brand emblazoned all over everything is still there.
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um i would say that what cologne you wear really is just like an intuition thing and kind of
00:38:58.420
finding something that that matches your vibe so i i just like went and picked a random one that
00:39:05.920
me and my girlfriend thought was good i don't even know the name of it you know it's like a
00:39:16.260
When you, um, Kevin Samuels, he was an image consultant.
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Would you ever consider doing image consulting or do you do it now for,
00:39:24.820
for people? Uh, yeah, I, I do that, uh, on occasion.
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drag people in and give them advice. Um, but you know,
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we'll come in and ask for looks maxing advice and they'll be fat. Right.
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And that's how I know it's not genuine because it doesn't, you know,
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it doesn't be clavicular to tell you, Hey, look, you're, you're a little chubby.
00:39:52.900
So, um, I, I see people like that. I'm like, okay,
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let's take the first step and do the obvious things that didn't require this
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entire, uh, looks maxing phenomenon to take place. And then we'll get into,
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you know, the absurd, crazy, super detail-oriented looks maxes.
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Recently, Pearl had this realization that there's certain people's opinion that she just wasn't
00:40:19.540
meant to hear based upon, you know, and so like example, you're talking about if a person comes
00:40:27.040
to you for looks max advice and they're fat, well then, sorry. But are you noticing that in other
00:40:33.220
parts of your life to you as your career has has ascended where there's just certain people
00:40:38.220
they try to they want some of your time or your advice or whatever you're just like no i'm good
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are you to that point yet um yeah people try to you know bullshit and waste your time
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um you know i always get like all these messages on instagram they're like clap come on just give
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me like an hour of your time like i just need um you know advice on this advice on that
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and uh you know they think that's like a low time burden and just something that you can make happen
00:41:09.280
but there's a million other dms that are exactly like that so if i were to just sit there all day
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and wasting my time um it just wouldn't be uh wouldn't be possible well i met in entertainment
00:41:21.640
i found that there's a lot of crazy people that have followings and i don't know if it's worse
00:41:25.900
in miami um but just because like at times the algorithm rewards super crazy behavior
00:41:34.700
um have you noticed that since you've like i don't know gotten bigger um i would say that
00:41:43.980
that isn't really as big of a thing anymore people just doing dumb trying to go viral
00:41:49.980
it doesn't really work because there's so many people trying to do it like going into restaurants
00:41:54.620
and just like screaming at the top of their lungs like yeah you see that on reels every once in a
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while but um it's just too oversaturated now just like being a dumbass so um i don't really have to
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to be super intentional with uh trying to go viral it's like i just come on i do these podcasts
00:42:14.940
i answer these questions genuinely and um it's it's so captivating and like the answer that
00:42:21.260
people were looking for for so many years that it just naturally hits the algorithm so when i first
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got into the red pill space one of the first things i did was go to um like a pua boot camp
00:42:33.180
so i've actually seen like firsthand the game i know a lot of guys that believe in like the game
00:42:38.700
stuff do you think really think it's all uh no no i don't think it's bullshit at all it's just
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important to acknowledge that um once again results are going to vary drastically depending
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on how good looking you are and there's no point of being like a chud who's not looks maxed and
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going out and doing 100 cold approaches a day right that's just a complete waste of your time
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you should absolutely learn the game and learn uh how to be an interesting person um learn these
00:43:06.960
different relationship dynamics um but do so while looks maxing uh or else it's just not going to be
00:43:12.620
worth it okay wait so when are when are they cooked this is the psl skill right um yeah so
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like like yeah what is it worth their time versus not worth their time um to what uh to cold approach
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well i would say that that cold approaching is certainly something that uh you're gonna have to
00:43:43.860
be super neurotypical more than like knowing exactly the angle to approach someone at versus
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like you know how to converse properly uh it's just it's it's about it being nt so there's there's
00:43:57.060
so many stats that go into it how tall you are but i would say that you know with proper game
00:44:02.600
as like uh an upper mid-tier normie starting to the high tier normie slot you're going to be able
00:44:09.340
to have results cold approaching if you are nt okay mid-tier normie and then so you would say
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the guys here it's cooked like i wouldn't waste your time okay yep that's honest at least
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uh pearl and i will we came up with this thing after we're in hollywood we're in the age of
00:44:31.360
mids especially when it comes to women um you know i grew up in the 90s so we had the bombshell
00:44:37.360
supermodels i don't know how you feel about them but um if you look at the top 20 most beautiful
00:44:42.480
women in hollywood i think i we would all three of us would cringe uh how do you feel about the
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the modern beauty standard in hollywood right now because i mean zendaya um jenna ortega i mean it
00:45:00.320
It wasn't like this when I was young, believe me.
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It's just, there's just mids all over the place.
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Pearl, can you explain the age of the mids a little better than...
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Yeah, well, I said, because women, I feel it.
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They're certainly pretty good looking, those examples.
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But it's just, preferences have changed, right?
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And I would say that the biggest change in looks, yeah, I would say she's quite good looking.
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but um the biggest change it is uh really about pornography right not so much about hollywood
00:45:34.940
pornography has influenced people uh to be more so tailored around finding a girl with super
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uh large breasts and um you know a super big ass rather than um a good uh model looking face right
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well you you think they're as pretty as like the beauties of the past like megan fox
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and well it's just a different so it's a different thing entirely right when you compare like the
00:46:02.360
90s victoria's secret models to actors it's like it's just a different field entirely being a model
00:46:09.320
is all about looking as good as possible walking down a runway where being an actor you actually
00:46:15.020
have to have some scales to it well i think in the modern day they've really tried to push women
00:46:22.780
whose beauty is is tailored towards women's standards and not men's standards i think you'd
00:46:29.340
probably think that there's a objective standard but in media they've they've been really from what
00:46:36.100
i've noticed that they've been really trying to push a beauty that's affable to women and not men
00:46:41.580
um if if that were the case in modeling then i would say that argument has a bit more of a
00:46:50.920
backbone but acting is merit-based as well and it's it really is about someone's talent so i
00:46:57.800
wouldn't attribute um all these castings to like trying to push some different narrative i would
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say that you have to kind of give the actors a little bit more credit than that that
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um you know they did a good job or they're they're fit for for the roles that they have
00:47:11.900
um i would more so look at at the trends of of the modeling and and high fashion um industry
00:47:19.120
uh as as glp ones are getting rid of the body positivity movement and uh and uh a certain level
00:47:31.140
of uh of modeling this comment actors were merit-based when harvey was in charge
00:47:51.820
Well, it's just a lot of people say that, you know, during H.W.'s time, he gatekept a certain level of looks out of Hollywood, and ever since that went away, now we have these mids, but just a theory floating around.
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go ahead okay sure um yeah so so what else did you have
00:48:19.600
were you asking about glp ones or no yeah i was gonna say um glp ones are relatively new
00:48:28.660
um a lot of people see that as like the lazy way so if you said that someone's gonna talk to you
00:48:41.880
if they were to say they were to want to take a GLP-1,
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or would you recommend the good old-fashioned hard work way?
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not the means in my opinion when it comes to lux maxing so you should try to strive for efficiency
00:49:14.260
not hard work yeah because there's certain people where they are so big it's like
00:49:22.740
if you want to really get this started it's a glp1 instead of trying to yeah so i could see that
00:49:27.940
it's just glp ones are just so relatively new and i think that once they have a generic version of
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a glp1 i mean everybody's going to be on it i don't know if it's going to make a big dent
00:49:38.020
in america's fat problem but um anything that you can make a generic version of the glp1
00:49:45.620
as in as it's it's easily accessible everywhere without like prescriptions it's kind of so you
00:49:53.380
just mean an over-the-counter one because the generic version of the drug would be ozampic
00:49:59.620
for example are urchers epitide and then the branded pharmaceutical uh version would be manjaro
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you know so that already exists okay you know more about this than i do so
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do you think it'll actually impact the obesity rate in america glp ones um yeah obviously there's
00:50:24.740
has been a significant decrease since the popularization of GLP-1s. I think right now
00:50:32.680
about 15% of Americans are currently taking a GLP-1. That's last I checked, and it's probably
00:50:39.160
even more now. So its effect on the obesity rate has already been significant.
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What are looks-maxing trends that most people don't know, that are maybe very effective,
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Or there's some kind of stigma around about that too.
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I would say that to understand coloring quite well,
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There's the carotenoid axes and there's the melanin axes that give you
00:51:21.300
your overall skin tone and your overall look right so if you're super high on the melanin
00:51:28.020
axes you're going to be more tan um you know but without those super good undertones that you get
00:51:34.420
from taking carotenoid supplements eating certain foods you're not going to have that really good
00:51:39.940
red healthy undertone glow um that that's going to give you top level color
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so that's that's one to to definitely recommend to people is carotenoids is that and that's a
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peptide uh no that's a supplement and it's also it's also found with within within natural foods
00:52:02.580
okay and so if they eat that they get the you get the color undertone
00:52:08.480
correct yeah but i'm talking about the supplement form is uh typically easier than
00:52:14.960
than getting carotenoids from uh eating foods okay so if i'm pale it'd make me tanner basically
00:52:21.840
correct okay when um men get older so the 20 30s 40s right what are some trends that would change
00:52:34.500
and looks maxing based upon your age and then also looks are most important but how does that
00:52:42.280
counterbalance with that thing where they try to say that men get older and they get more resources
00:52:46.600
so they can let themselves go a little bit so like these rich guys who are just dumpy as hell
00:52:53.600
and think that they can pull women because they have money and cars and stuff like that
00:52:58.020
um looks maxing is is going to be the most important regardless even if you get to a level
00:53:04.880
of success and you have a bunch of cars like why should you uh be lazy all of a sudden right it's
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like you should want to be as good looking as possible and have as many cars as possible right
00:53:16.700
because uh when you're in the most competitive dating market really of all time um if you're
00:53:23.200
super rich and then you stop prioritizing your looks, someone else at some part of this earth
00:53:30.720
is going to be good looking and rich. Pearl, remember the thing we talked about where,
00:53:37.540
because on our side of the internet, different men have different forms of
00:53:43.360
what they consider achievement. So you have the guy who earns millions of dollars and has this
00:53:49.940
beautiful trophy wife and he feels like he he's achieved but then he's let himself go
00:53:54.820
then you have a guy who's really good looking barely has anything smashes his wife and that
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guy's like oh yeah i've achieved more than you because i smashed your wife yeah right
00:54:08.740
what are the other looks maxing um advice that you have that most people don't know
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you said the first one was the supplement what else
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um i would say that like i that's just something i could talk about for hours
00:54:25.220
really there's so many different looks maxes um that are not in the mainstream yet because
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people think that looks maxing is just as surface level as um going to the gym and while that's a
00:54:39.280
part of it certainly um you know looks maxing includes pharmacology uh it includes fitness
00:54:46.700
uh it includes all these different areas uh so to become a master uh you know sort of a jack of all
00:54:54.360
trades uh you know looks maxer you have to do like years and years of research so um i would
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say people are like looking at only the tip of the iceberg with what's available publicly on
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tiktok it's taken me quite literally years to to come to this level of knowledge well what's one
00:55:16.520
would recommend people look into that that you've never really been asked in an interview before
00:55:21.400
because i i notice you always get asked about um like the hammer and stuff um you always say that
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there's more that to it and so what like what comes that's just going to be super case dependent
00:55:33.800
right so um that that's why i like doing the image consulting um because it allows you to actually
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analyze people's facial phallos rather than just giving a super generic advice looks maxing is is
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not uh necessarily something that's super generic other than like all these basic principles that
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those are the ones that are already known all the super nuanced uh stuff that that it's a little bit
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more um gate kept or whatever is is going to be case dependent so i wouldn't want to make just
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a generic statement are there any so a lot of the stuff is so new and there's certain things
00:56:17.800
i mean but i i could clarify that a little bit further but um you know if if you're someone with
00:56:23.160
the super uh bulbous and wide nose your ailer base is out of the ideal uh but you're against
00:56:30.120
surgery you know you're maybe you're uh religious and this is not something that you could do uh
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you could reduce the width, um, and bulbicity of your nose, you know, by about 20, 30% by using a
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topical, uh, corticosteroid like hydrocortisone. Right. So that that's one looks max that if I
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were to see a very, very unique, uh, case like that, where it was a guy who's religious, um,
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you know, doesn't want to get surgery, I would recommend that to him. Um, so that's, that's why
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like i really don't like to just say oh like this because then someone who might not need that just
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thinks oh hide your cortisone equals looks maxing and then start using it and then they don't
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understand that you have to cycle it and um it could potentially go systemic so um that that's
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why like it's literally like uh hours and hours of research to do things right can you walk me
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through how you rate people like what what's your process do you like what do you analyze first
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second third i guess so um there's all these facial ratios that give someone a harmony percentage
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um that's stuff like the midface ratio like their facial width height ratio um you know
00:57:47.880
their total facial height to width ratio um so i've got an understanding about um all these
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different ratios and how they how they calculate um so i'm able to make a pretty uh spot on um
00:58:02.820
um, you know, estimate of, of what that is for someone, whether their mid face is too long or
00:58:08.000
too short, um, and how these things scale. Uh, and that's what allows me to come up with their
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rating, but also intuitively, if you're someone who's ever been out in public, uh, and you've
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kind of taken a look at a bunch of faces, you could understand what percentile, uh, someone's
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face ranks in, even if you don't necessarily understand why. But I don't necessarily want to
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get into the whole pop culture rating stuff. I think it's kind of just been been done too many
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times. No, I was more just wondering, because I'll hear you say like the bulbous and these words that
00:58:45.740
aren't really used normally. And I just wonder what some of that means. So I was just curious
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if you see it it doesn't have to be her but someone's face like so the first thing you go
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through is how wide the face is so like no i it really just is something that um like takes
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milliseconds um in your head to to understand um because it's super noticeable if you were to pull
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up a face um you know that obviously you know is out of the ideal in terms of its length so like
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um for example maybe like an atom driver um you look at that face and okay yeah that's another
00:59:28.720
one so the total facial width to height ratio uh is obviously the face is far too tall relative
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to its width that's something that you could oh i see yeah and that's that's something that's
00:59:43.300
kind of odd what is the bulbous what does that mean how bulbous your nasal tip is yeah i don't
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notable yeah what does that mean uh a bulbous nasal tip means it's too big oh okay so a big
00:59:56.940
nose okay oh and so like that would be really obvious when you just look at people okay yeah
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is this guy here chopped is he too cooked or no
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um well without hair you really have to have a top percentile face to compete
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what do you think about hair transplants do you think those are effective one of the best
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surgeries because if you have no hair uh a lot of the times you have no life is a common saying
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from st hamudi um so i i think that's it's pretty accurate and um i said this on hannity the other
01:00:46.340
day a lot of the the prime time hosts uh throughout all of media whether it be liberal or conservative
01:00:52.900
have hair right um it's it's a really good health and youth indicator and it contributes a lot to
01:00:59.620
your aesthetics can you bring up Anya Taylor uh Anya Taylor Joy Pearl because um this girl
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what Clive was talking about when you see someone's face and you just have this kind of
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feeling there's no person where that's more evident than her and I just want to know
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is it because her eyes are so wide apart like i don't
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um click on the image of that that's her in the red dress uh one column down yeah yeah this is
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yeah so so that would be about the esr ratio right so um and the intercample distance so
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her eyes the distance between her pupils relative to the distance uh between her cheekbones um
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01:01:52.360
they're a little bit wide set and the medial canthus which is this little part right here uh
01:01:58.680
at the ends of your eyes um that is supposed to be a certain distance uh apart and it's too wide
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as well so yeah it would be it'd be that ratio or the combination of those two what what would
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you rate her um i i don't really like to do the um the pop culture ratings anymore just like
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i'll bring that okay so what could she do to fix that if she were to say i really want to fix it
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because she said that she was brutally bullied when she was young and yeah i can see why but
01:02:32.680
let's say you know like a a 18 year old and 19 year old girl were to say look i really want to
01:02:37.320
fix this like what could she do to fix it there's no way she's a three right she's going to be higher
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than a three that's what the chat's saying there's no way um i would say that so the only thing that
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you could really do to fix the the eye distance is something called an orbital box osteotomy
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but that's a very very invasive surgery uh quite drastic uh so it's not something that
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um i would necessarily recommend to a an already successful uh actress you know i don't i just
01:03:09.320
don't think that that that's going to be that life-changing of a procedure for her what is that
01:03:15.320
what is that procedure did they because i've never even what would they do in that procedure
01:03:21.620
if you don't mind me asking yeah so it's no it's extremely brutal they're gonna um cut your entire
01:03:27.960
forehead uh and essentially your entire face open i don't think you could pull it up on screen
01:03:32.620
because it's so uh bloody but they're literally taking your entire face off um and extending or
01:03:38.760
retracting your orbits your orbital bones so it's yeah it's nasty how would they
01:03:44.580
how would they do that would they put something under the like under the how would how do you
01:03:50.940
extend or retract your orbital bones i've never even heard of that before you're you're doing an
01:03:55.520
osteotomy uh and breaking them apart and then readjusting them oh my gosh what about the height
01:04:02.480
surgery do you think that is necessary for some guys or would you not recommend it um well it just
01:04:10.100
comes down to roi right so it's like that's something that is going to be hundreds of
01:04:16.260
thousands of dollars and uh you're going to be out of commission and out of work for about a year
01:04:21.580
so if that's going to increase your smv more than um one year of work uh one year of status maxing
01:04:29.720
then then yeah absolutely um we have a super chat clav i'm sean from houston texas proud of you boy
01:04:38.340
at your age real friends are as hard to find as a good girl haters i'm 33 i get it if you're ever
01:04:44.240
in houston you've got a place to stay and you've got a friend in me it's from doc blaze one
01:04:49.400
what is the most invasive procedure you've seen someone go to to improve their looks where you're
01:05:00.620
like bro oh come on was there something like you said that that orbital thing will it's pretty
01:05:06.420
bootable what's the worst thing that someone has gone through to improve their looks that you've
01:05:11.040
heard i would say that that's probably the most invasive surgery that you could get
01:05:20.800
then lafora three but um all right i i do have to hop on onto another podcast um in about 10 minutes
01:05:33.120
so um i appreciate you guys for having me um so i'm gonna run but uh i will i will talk to you
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guys soon again hopefully yeah thanks for coming clav thank you all right goodbye bye
01:05:47.460
how's it going hey how's it going can you hear me okay yeah i can hear you that was fun
01:05:58.060
yeah i felt so stupid because he's saying words and i'm like i do not know what that well no
01:06:03.520
he he's just an expert in something that's when you have a personal quavicular on you just need
01:06:09.720
to listen to what he says because um i you know i we had some stuff pre-written but when he starts
01:06:17.040
talking about looks maxing it's just like i want to know as much as i can possibly know you know
01:06:22.060
like, you know, I'm 45 years old and looks matching, you know, I'm the tail end of,
01:06:28.900
we were raised to where, oh, you know, women want a man that can provide and all you have to do is
01:06:34.220
be a good man and stuff. But guys, clavicular is where things were going to end up. And
01:06:39.400
once again, looks matching is such a new trend that I see, especially men adopting, like men
01:06:48.560
just accepting the fact that we're in a looks economy and it's gonna give you the results so
01:06:54.160
once again i we had stuff prepared but when you have a guy like a clavicular one you just listen
01:06:58.480
to him talk about looks magic he's the expert who else on this planet knows what he knows and is
01:07:05.040
doing what he's doing yeah well i wish yeah next time if if he comes back we'll see but
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um i think i'm gonna get a little bit more specific of questions but it was cool though
01:07:18.160
it's fun yeah you know i i wanted to i wanted to ask him more like you know red pill dating
01:07:25.440
questions but you know you just keep talking about the parts of looks maxing especially
01:07:33.280
because i feel like he gets asked all the common questions but he was able to share a little bit
01:07:38.160
more here like that surgery with anya taylor whatever the heck i've never even heard of
01:07:43.600
expanding someone's orbitals before you can do that i know that's disgusting yeah and then um
01:07:51.280
we were gonna have him rate some people but you know out of respect for him we didn't go there
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yeah it was cool though it was cool we should do more one-on-ones trying to think of who else we'd
01:08:02.400
one on um and a lot of people will look guys clavicular you you cannot like them all you want
01:08:13.640
but clavicular it looks max is here to stay it's here to stay so so get used to it i don't know
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how you could not call him an expert with the stuff he knows uh um all right you got anything
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else for today um well not really once again it's it's just really good to talk to him
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he just for being so young he just has such a wealth of knowledge and um once again
01:08:40.500
i had some things i wanted to ask him but he's just such an expert in his field and when you
01:08:46.060
get someone like that on you just listen to him asking questions and then just listen to him
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i'd do a sit down with jedediah i don't know i don't know if she'd do one with me i haven't heard
01:08:55.820
from her since i was on her show years ago but yeah yeah sorry but my sound went out a little
01:09:02.240
bit at the end when he was saying goodbye i couldn't hear yeah it's okay all right all right
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um all right guys like the video um we'll maybe do more of these so if there's someone else you
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